ITT: Ask the opposite gender anything

>>18597789
What are the odds of finding a guy who has traditional values but doesn't want kids? I feel like these two things are at odds with each other but I'm not really sure.

>>18597797
What do you mean by "traditional values"?
I've met a couple of guys who want a long term relationship and despise casual sex, but do not want kids. I've never met a man who wants a housewife but doesn't want kids.

>>18597818
Looking for marriage, a relationship built on mutual love rather than sex, maybe a guy who's willing to be the primary earner as well (but I wouldn't mind if we both work, that's fine). Pretty standard things, I guess?

>>18597789
How do girls view guys that are trying to get their shit together but are doing so a bit later in life than everyone else?

>>18597915
I'm kind of the same way, so I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I'd gladly encourage a guy who was actively working towards self-improvement.

Is there a place where low confidence guys find low confidence girls, I legit believe I'm never going to find someone in my entire life from here on just because I have no idea how to approach girls on the romantic level, I'm not hideous nor a complete autist yet I can never bridge the gap due to low confidence.
Are there girls who feel this way who arn't hideous either and are fun to be around?

>>18597797
In west ? I don't think so, but there are a lot of guys like that here.

>>18597938
>no idea how to approach girls on a romantic level
Get over it by practising and exposing yourself to it, little by little, step by step. There is no single magical moment that will instantly change you forever.

>I'll never find anyone because of muh confidence
Make yourself worth something to yourself, confidence comes from within. Don't expect girls that "aren't hideous" or "fun to be around" to put up with you if you can't put up with yourself.

Apply yourself anon. Confidence is earned, not found on a mongolian horse farming imageboard.

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>>18597797
>i want you to marry me, secure me, be faithful to me, rape me when i feel like it, listen to me and i will give you exactly nothing in return except headache from time to time.
Pic related.

>>18597938
Online dating combined with luck factor. Maybe stop feeling inferior? Practice makes perfect + fake it until you make it.

My girl want me to be rough with her in bed
I'm used to being sweet and gentle

What should I do in order to be rough?

Not spoke to someone for like 4-5 days, is it weird to message them out the blue to see if they want to hook up again?

Have already had sex, but last discussion ended on a bit of a source note. Neither has attempted to contact since.

>>18597970
Why are you jumping to this? I can clean just fine, and while I'm not very GOOD at cooking, I could learn if it was for someone I loved. I just don't want kids, that's all.

>>18597975
Spank her ass. Ass is place designed to be slapped. It makes fun sounds, it is least sensitive place on body, full of muscle and fat. Order her around in bed. Make her to strip down and suck your D. Or try rape scenario. Wait until you two are alone, then approach her from behind, hug her and force your hands into her panties, bend her and take her on spot. No it wont be rape unless you will go full retard and literally overpower her and ignore her crying. Treat her like it is only about your orgasm, not her.

Practically treat her like whore in bedroom. And dont forget to do after care. No matter how much you degrade her, at the end hug her tightly and soothe her if needed.

>>18597989
Just ask her on date. Or netflix and chill. It wont get anymore weird than it already is.

>>18598008
Well, people without children will go extinct. So the "traditional norm" will ALWAYS BE having and wanting babies.

The most most basic thing any woman can offer to man is to make family and home together with him. In the past it was also access to pussy, but with tinder, porn, advanced sex toys and all casual sex turbo sluts it is no longer valid.

Make up your mind. Not wanting kids is as anti traditional as it gets. Do you have any particular reason for not wanting it? Maybe you are just young and havent caught baby fever yet. I dont know any 30+ single woman who isnt crazy about finding "sperm donor" and husband. The wall isnt just 4chan meme. Make sure you dont end up the same.

>>18598038
>Do you have any particular reason for not wanting it?
It's personal reasons, mostly. I don't like kids, I'm terrified of pregnancy, and my family has a history of disease that I'd rather not pass on to a child, but more than anything I think I'd just be a really shitty parent. Maybe I'm being selfish, but I just don't think it's a good idea.

>>18598053
Well, there are plenty of men who dont want kids. In fact, i would say (no sources, just wild speculation sorry) majority of them were in some point forced into marriage / baby thing via numerous ways, mostly manipulation and emotional blackmail.

So can you get bf? Absolutelly. But loyal qtie husband material who doesnt want kids? Not so sure. If not now, what about 5, 10 years later? Hell even 40 something men sometimes catch second wind, divorce and go make second family.

That said i know few old couples who never had kids (dont know the reason why, if it was choice or medical issue) who grew old together like lovely couple.

>shitty parent
Thinking about how bad parent you would be is a sign of you being good parent. You would probably do research and actually cared about your kids fate which is actually more than average parents do these days.

>terrified of pregnancy
Do you think soldiers were terrified before they walked to their death in meaningless war? With today medical care, you have almost nothing to be afraid. Ask your grandma / ma about how and why have they decided to have children. Maybe it will help you make up your mind.

I bet you are young, the baby fever will come. Maybe not tommorow, but eventually it should. Dont look for bf who never wants to have children. Look for one who is indifferent on the subject or with "not now, but maybe in future".

>>18597892
if you cut the primary earner part (if you dont have kids what are you planning to do with your time? be a neet? be serious) it can work imo

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Girls:

Any tips for a guy going into online dating for the first time?

Like what's a good guideline for bio and pic?

What apps are good?

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>>18598145
>asking deer about hunting deer
Any real advice is to try any app you can, be patient and be bold. Online dating experience depends on its user base. You can have abysmal shit in one city and good experience in next city. Throw memes at them if you must, extract their phone numbers and ask them on dates asap.

If they dont want to give you their phone, they dont want to date/fuck/marry you. And remember, some of them do it for trolling / attention / memes. You may be the only user who takes it seriously. Dont take rejections and ghosting personally.

And get god tier selfie. Plenty of guides how to online. Suit, new haircut, shower, daylight and smug face. If you dont spend at least 1 hour trying to take a good photo, you wont have much success. And be white :-)

Once you run out of ideas about what to talk, ask them out. Dont fall for LDR.

>>18598145
Make the bio personal, short and funny.

When it comes to the pictures - do not exaggerate with selfies. Even if candid pics are not as flattering, they make you seem more interesting. Post pics of you travelling, doing sports, cooking, with your friends, whatever.

Send well written messages. Keep them short. Ask interesting questions, or if you don't have anything interesting to ask just make a witty comment.

how to find a girl with good quality autism that is not so desperate for a relationship that she uses apps for dating? im sure there are plenty, i mean i cant be the only one in the world

>>18598169
>>asking deer about hunting deer
They say if you want to hunt deer, you have to be the deer.

Thanks for that. I don't know about the white part but good tips all around.

I live in Toronto, so I imagine I'd be hit with multicultural women (which I love btw).

>>18598186
Roger that, Anon.

Damn, it feels like I'm going to school again and meeting schoolgirls.

>candid photos

I'll opt for this. I'm not narcissitic enough to spend an hour on a selfie.

To girls: i live in a country where being tanned in summer is a must, and being pale makes you socially outcast
Ok now i dont have serious autism so i can still be social but im naturally really pale, have a hard time tanning (build it up slow, like weeks slow, lose it in 2 days of non tanning), and overall dislike laying under the sun doing nothing. arms and face get tanned since i still do outdoor stuff, but girls look at me like some sort of special kid.
what do? change country? witty comebacks to shut them up?

>>18598203
University
The problem is if hteir autistic they're probably not gonna be out much and probably belongs to obscure clubs with obscure hobbies

So

I'm 29 and never had a girlfriend before. I choose to not get one and i also don't participate in casual sex because I fee like there is nothing to gain. I mean, I don't want to get married and absolutely never want kids. So I literally can't think of any benefits if I were to start either of those things.

Are there any?

>>18598230
did medicine, met none, everyone obsessed with studying 24/7 and they could only talk about medicine
where are those obscure clubs?

>>18598203
>how do i defeat hunger without eating?
Maybe try to learn how to socialize and find normal girl who will be compatible with your autism. You think gf with autism would be cool, but i can assure you she wont. And i bet you are just that weird kid with low self confidence and nobody ever diagnosed you.

http://www.improveyoursocialskills.com/conversation

>>18598233
Free cuddling and nagging. Also how can you know it is not worth it if you never try it?
See >>18597797 and date her?

>>18598233
getting intimate with someone of the opposite sex and mating with them feels pretty good

>>18598241
I dont know go to your school club board or student centre?

>everyone obsessed with studying 24/7 and they could only talk about medicine

That's your talking point, build on that.

Perfect setting for you, you're bound to at least snag a 100+ IQ QT. Use that as your entry point and background filler to a meaningful date.

I also wouldn't limit my scope of search to 'autistic' women. Be open to anyone.

>>18598227
Laugh it off. Also - no one cares as much as you think.

>>18598245
>>18598247


>Free cuddling and nagging. Also how can you know it is not worth it if you never try it?
>See >>18597797 # and date her?

Doesn't seem worth all of the pain and drama. Also lol

>>18598250
>That's your talking point, build on that.
but that's extremly boring, it usually just leads up to an exchange of infos about exams and stuff.
not american, i suppose there you have those student centres you talk about? nothing here like that
also iq of medical people is overrated, most of us (me included) are pretty dense

>>18598253
apparently they do, since almost everyone has that in his top 10 things to tell me in 30 seconds after meeting me
fucking niggers

>>18598245
>http://www.improveyoursocialskills.com/conversation
will read and give feedback, thanks

>>18598272
They notice it, because it's odd - but it's not a big deal or an insult.

>>18598266
IQ doesn't mean socially adept or even emotionally mature.

>but that's extremly boring,

Guess what, there are boring things that can be used as a launch point.

For example

>oh our exams on thursday
>yeah, do you wanna go ham and study tomorrow?

There you go

>>18598258
If you were so sure about dying alone being the best option for you, you wouldnt be here asking questions like that.

Stop lying to yourself.

>>18598316

I am ok with dying alone. I'm just asking because "muh biological instincts" are annoying sometimes

>>18598245
nothing particulary interesting, that's standard conversation skill

>>18598278
still not kind, i dont point out their belly or flat ass or slight strabism or ugly teeth

Is there a recommended or correct way to talk to a stranger girl on the bus if she looks at you a lot?
>inb4 hello
What next? Are there some recommended conversation topics or starters?

>>18598227
Tanning has a lot of health risks, and it's worse if you're pale. And it ages your skin. Maybe read up on that to shut them up.

>>18597797
We exist - just not that many.
>traditional values
>want equal, loving partnership
>no kids
I'd require you to work tho, I won't provide 100% for anyone

>>18598392

Does that happen often?

>>18598410
Not really, just wondering about this specific girl that looked at me a lot the last time we took the same bus, and kept looking at me after we left. Hopefully we share the same bus today again (I've seen her twice on the same bus at the same time as me so far, I think). I didn't talk to her the last time because I got nervous.

>>18598407
we all know that, but social rules dont follow so strictly medical advices

>>18598377
maybe do that, point out how rude they're being, let them think about what that remark meant to you

>>18598418

Don't read too much into it. Specially of you usually take the same bus. You don't want to make all her future trips weird.

>>18598423
nah i dont think that's good, either hurts them ruining the mood or leads to an escalation of insults which is even worse
i usually dont care much but damn sometimes i get told that like 20 times in an hour

>>18598418
you should rape her

>>18597789
anonsan here again to answer questions, although I only got one response to mine I feel indebted to these threads

>>18597975
Asking to be "rough" is too vague anon. You need to ask her exactly what she's into and what she wants and establish a safe word with her. This always gets asked over at Reddit, go search /r/bdsmcommunity, /r/bdsmfaq, & /r/sex
>>18597989
Go for it anon, what can you lose? A girl did the same to me like a week after we hooked up. I thought it went horrible but she made the move again.
>>18598392
Anon, when I was youngish I used to think about this a lot. In my city no one makes conversation on the bus unless they know each other. Maybe find a way to slip her your number if you see her again?

Still been having a hard time recovering from my past relationship.

She lied so much, and I've been pretty much in a full self rebuild since then.

I'm approaching a year of being single, a year without sex, and I still feel lost in life.

>>18598429
I guess I'm probably reading too much into it, though I wonder why she stared at me so often. In case it fails I can still just take the bus a bit later and still get where I'm going on time.
In case I do try to talk to her, would it be too silly to make it meta and ask something like "her opinion on whether and how she would approach someone she finds attractive on a bus, who seems to stare at her often"?

>>18598445

>I'm approaching a year of being single, a year without sex, and I still feel lost in life.

All I'll say is, don't worry about girls or sex. Just do things you want to do and make positive changes.

And in all honesty, going a few years without sex is not a big deal

>>18598461

You are determined to do this, aren't you? The fact that you have nothing to say should be indicative of how creepy this is.

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My GF moved far away for her dream job and I'm stuck here. We broke up because we were pretty sure we couldn't deal with distance.

When does it get better? It's been a few months now and I still feel like shit.

>>18598471

It'll get better once you focus your mind away from her onto something else. Put your energy into a hobby or something. Travel. Your mind will be too busy to miss her, and you'll just start to care less and less

>>18598469
Pretty much any interaction between two strangers of opposite sexes where at least one finds the other attractive is "creepy".

>>18598461
Go for it. Nevel listen to females (and nu males scared of their own shadow?) opinions about creep stuff. They all play wait and see game. If every male did the same, we would go extinct long ago.

Also as long as she finds you attractive, you will never be creepy in her eyes, at max she will find your awkward behavior as cute.

I was talking to this girl (with a bf) about relationships, and when she asked me why I did't hit on someone I said cause they have a bf. She told me for a lot of girls that doesn't matter AT ALL.

I felt out of body for a few moments, why bother even having a gf, if you girls are planning to drop us at a moments notice.

If you raep a hoodrat chick, will you get reported to the police or will they stay silent because no one wants to be a snitch nigga?

>>18598145

Be white and/or tall. Pointless if you lack these.

>>18598708
She'll report it to her big dick niggas, and they'll castrate and rape you, and kill you if you're lucky.

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>>18598714
What if you kidnaep? The big dick niggas aren't likely to be master detectives and they don't want to report to police cause they ain't no snitch niggas either.

>>18598717
You're keeping her long term?

>>18598708
Rapes go unreported most of the time, and even when they do it's kind of uncommon that they go to trial because it's hard to get the woman to testify.

>>18598720
I'm not attracted to black women. I'm only asking because it's an interesting loophole.

>>18598726
Vigilante justice doesn't have loopholes.

On the topic of rape. Girls, if a guy was in the process of raping you, what would be worse?
a. He goes through with it.
b. He realizes you have an ugly face and stops.
https://www.chinasmack.com/young-man-attempts-rape-stops-after-seeing-girls-face

>>18598727
Yeah it does. If you kidnaep shanaenae from a hood 100 miles from where you live, how is jamal gonna detective and find yo white ass?

>>18598728
That's a pretty brilliant "would you rather" question, I doubt any girl will answer though.

>>18598732
When momma-monkey eventually files a missing person report for her daughter and shit hits the fan.

>>18598681

Wow she really said that?

Well that's just another reason to add to my list on why I don't want a girlfriend

>>18598732
>>18598737
Provided you didn't get caught in the act, or transportation of said negro, or in the possession of the negro while in your facility, with litres of semen dripping from her.

You know you've gotta keep her quiet, stored, and healthy the entire time you want to keep fucking her.

And, when you're done, you've got to cleanly dispose of the body, still not leaving a trace back to you.

Really the start up is the hardest part though. Once you got her safe and secure, you remove a lot of the variables from the scenario.

>>18598681

Look at the guys talking about raping a girl in this thread. If we can tell not all men are the same, you can at least do tje same and not take a single girls worldview to be the universal truth of all girls.

>>18598773
But it's just me talking about rape and one other guy who doesn't like blacks who is responding to me. Look at poster count.

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>>18598681
If this is all it takes for you to give up the dating game, you never really had a chance in the first place. Buy a cat and or dog.

>>18598708
Try to behave like a human and instead of rape use seduction. Or money. It isnt even that hard.

>>18598728
This looks like shitposting in real life.

>>18598794
>If this is all it takes for you to give up the dating game, you never really had a chance in the first place. Buy a cat and or dog.

I said nothing about giving up faggot, I said I felt out of body. It was eye opening.

>>18598800
Do you think penguins can commit suicide?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=snl-WsFm-kc
Maybe this will open your eyes even more.

>>18598805

Holy fuck... that is fucked...

>>18598841
Now wait for girls here to defend that female penguin.

>>18598857

I feel sad now after watching that

>>18598841
Not really, it is survival of the fittest. We humans arent really that different from the animals. Eat or be eaten.

>>18598857
Implying anybody would stay with literal loser when chad is avaiable.

>>18598862
Guys would stay with a loser girl even if Stacey is available.

>>18598862

>not really

I hope you go home to your SO and watch him/her get fucked stupid right in front of you

>>18598868

Yeah, only women cheat or walk out on their partners.

Wait a second...

Hey, I'm 22 and I joined a dating site and I feel really weird about it. I have never had a gf for more than a week and i want to find a gf but it feels so unnatural. I guess I have always been uncomfortable when girls flirt with me and I never really put myself out there. Does this feeling subside? I guess, can anyone relate to this? I've always felt uncomfortable talking about relationships and stuff. And the only time I had a gf I kept it a secret and stopped talking to her after a week. I can't justify my behavior at all, I just don't understand why I get like this. I'm not sure if what I wrote made much sense or if anyone can relate to these feelings. I don't want them.

Why am I suddenly thinking about her? Should I message her?

Basically this girl suddenly stopped talking to me with no warning. Maybe something happened, maybe she jsut didnt want to talk to me. IDK... Its been 2 months about.

I was starting to get over her, then she popped into my head again for some reason....

>>18598889
Any matches? I feel awkward with online dating but i am confident in person, i have always met girls in person but been told to try tinder.

How are you with girls in person, compared to online?

Girls

does it really feel good to be fucked? All the moans in porn (and even amateur porn feels fake.

something tells me that this is something you dont enjoy but give to chad to piss the rest of us guys off.

>>18598908
Because all porn is obviously fake, and porn is made to look good for men, not feel good for women. Anyway, I can only speak of my experience. Foreplay feels really good, fingering too. But penetration? Could do without it. That's something I only do to please the guy.

>>18598922
seriously? coz way less efficient or truly disliking? my gf seemed pretty happy when coming from dick, even if wasnt as easy as with fingers

>>18598868
Haha, good one!!

>>18598922
Why do some women not like penetration? Most woman i have been with i make cum during the actual act of sex, either that or they lie to me and tell me they have came half way through sex.

>>18598922
so sticking fingers in and out feels good but as soon as its a dick is going in it dosent?

>>18598931
Both feel good to me. I like to feel pressure inside me.

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Hey guys. First of all sorry for being a bit of an edge queen trying to understand a realm I'll never reach.

Is love real? What people think is love seems mostly due to conditional things. I.e., security, youth/beauty, sex. Some...well, most of the things I see around here and beyond are rather alarming.

>>18598924
Well like I said, it's only my experience. I don't dislike it (until my pussy gets sore if it takes too long for him), but it isn't that pleasurable. Many women can't orgasm from penetration, myself included.

>>18598906
A few 95+% matches if that's what you're asking. I get real awkward if I tell a girl I like them (or think about telling them). But if I don't, I'm fine with talking to women. I rarely ever approach women as more than friends and I've been rejected quite a bit (which feels pretty shitty). I guess it could be fear of rejection that is giving this awkward feeling.

>>18598943
not wanna turn this into cut vs uncut but what kind of dicks did you take?
usually works for me when the arousal is very high, the average hornyness cant get the job done

>>18598931
Sorry, I'm not a native speaker, I didn't mean sticking fingers in and out, I meant rubbing the clit.

>>18598953
They all happened to be cut. Is it too different?

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>Meet girl and we fall for eachother 3 years ago
>It doesnt workout because of distance (30-45 minutes) but we remain good friends despite some blatant sexual tension
>Start hanging out again last year. Tells other friends that it's not gonna work because she doesn't want anything right now along with some other reasons (because I don't have my own car to visit, she works everyday etc.) but still tells everyone she still thinks I'm really hot and a good guy
>Recently start hanging out again way more frequently with big group, become close with her friends
>Getting mixed signals from the whole thing
>She really doesnt text me singularly often, rather only in group chats or snapchats every now and then. (Mind you she barely texts even her own friends frequently) I ration she's trying to keep her distance and not get too close
>Everytime we're at a party together she dubs other guys, isn't talking to anyone on the side (I know because I became friends with her two best friends and they tell me everything and always mention me to her)
>Out for friends birthday and she's drunk, dancing all over me, hugging me, trying to make me take shirt my shirt off, snuggling me on the uber ride back, even tells friends she dreamt about me (that we woke up next to eachother) after I left

So what the fuck? It took a lot for me to not make a move, I love this girl. Everyone knows theres tension. Was her drunk self being true to how she feels? Ladies what does this mean?

>>18598954
ok now I get it. "fingering" usually means penetration with fingers.

>>18598965
heard from a few ones here that cut dick makes way more friction that uncut on your insides, but i have no real evidence for that
after moving to uncut dick they were all way happier with vaginal sex
again, i live in a uncut only country so cant really find anyone confirming, cut dick looks way drier tho

>>18598908
I love the actual, penetrative sex. It doesn't make me want to scream bloody murder or moan really extra, but it feels really good.

My least favorite thing is fingering. Honestly, I feel almost nothing unless you're really moving your fingers around in there. And just the thought of finger nails and all the crap that gets stuck under them inside me grosses me out.

However, on the level of the most stimulation, oral takes the cake. However, I like actual sex more for the pleasure and the intimacy.

>>18598989
Well that's worth looking into then lol

Is there hope for a 25 year old who works at Target and has never been in a relationship?

>>18598992
For me fingering feels great--I don't even have to press hard or be turned on. Not sure what fucking would even feel like.

t. my boyfriend is my left hand

hi girls

im a loner guy who never socialize with the opposite gender. can i get to talk with you on kik? to learn more about you.

>>18599021
if you manage to work on it and can confirm get back here so that cutfags get btfo

>>18599031
Sure hmu
mishew

>>18598976
Bump

>>18598280
U obviously don't know med students. Competitive as fuck...

>>18598138
>>18598408
Yeah, I figured as much. I think I'd feel like I wasn't contributing enough if I wasn't working anyway.

The last girl I was into ended up fucking me up indirectly and now I'm second guessing myself even more than normal. How do I get over this?

>>18598227
Take beta carotene supplements. They change your skin orange colored if you take way way too many, but give healthy glow if you are in a good range. Medically harmless if you don't smoke.

Take 50k IU a day, your body uses 10K IU a day. It stores the other 40K IU. You want to build up to 3 or 3.5 million IU. Will take like 88 days if you take 50K IU a day, after that don't take anymore or you end up orange.

Anyone up for a backpacking adventure with not-so-subtle undertones of romance only to be crushed later on in a few months when you find out you are mostly incompatible with your travel buddy? Sounds like my kind of trip desu

Positive vibes pls :)

I'm a guy with below average looks, my personality is nothing special and I have shitty social skills/am awkward and my self-esteem is in the gutter
What are the odds I'll ever be able to date a 7+/10 girl?

>>18599195
0% unless rich

>>18599196
What's "rich"?
So I shouldn't have any expectations of ever being in a relationship since I'm not willing to improve myself?

>>18599199
>So I shouldn't have any expectations of ever being in a relationship since I'm not willing to improve myself?
yeah basically
rich as in above 500k dollars with a house and nice car

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>>18599199
>ever
So...you're refusing to date 6 or lower girls despite possibly being in the 3-5 range and not willing to work on yourself like 6+ girls do? You're not gonna get any sympathy from us.

Would a girl find it weird of I told her to have a good day at work? We've been casually messaging for a couple weeks now, and one night she asked me how work went, I kind of feel like returning the favor of caring. Yeah or no?

>>18599195
Possible but not probable. People generally date someone around their attractiveness, so you'd have to be a 6/10 minimum to date those girls.

And what makes you think you're entitled to an attractive girlfriend anyway? You're no better than a landwhale SJW who thinks she deserves Ryan Gosling.

>>18599211
sounds ok to me, dont add xoxo or weird ass stickys

>>18599195
100% if you ask a new gril out on a date every day

>>18599207
Alright thanks
>>18599209
Yeah, I like attractive girls and I don't want to settle or lower my standards. I'd rather be alone than with someone I'm not really attracted to.
Realistically I'm in the 4-5 range, probably 4. I dress well and have good hygiene.
>>18599214
Where did I say I was entitled to anything?

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>>18599222
Well, I'll give you this because I'm pretty much the same. Scratch that. Worse.

>go teenage years without really getting any crushes on real guys
>19 now
>Chris Pratt makes me feel butterflies in my stomach--he looks like a hot teddy bear
>tfw he's the only guy I've ever found sort of attractive and crushed on
I don't really obsess about him but it does make me laugh at the futility of my existence

>>18599195
Basically 0%.
You have nothing to offer.

>>18599233
I think it's stupid to expect ugly or average people to be naturally attracted to people in their own league. Nobody wants a below-average person when attractive people exist. And "personality" only gets you so far.
>>18599242
I suppose. I don't want to improve my social skills and I can't improve my looks though, so what else is there?

>>18599247
>so what else is there?
Money, personality, intelligence, sense of humour.
Honestly, as you said - no one wants a below average person.
Unless you do something to improve yourself or drastically lower your standards, you will die alone. It's not like a hot, amazing girlfriend will fall on your cock just because you really want one.

>>18599247
>Don't want to improve yourself
>Still want to be in a relationship
I don't know if this is bait or serious

>>18599253
Obviously I can improve my looks to a certain point, but at some point an ugly face is an ugly face

>>18598976
Any help ladies?

>>18599262
Erm, dude, that anon was mainly referring to your social skills. And you're totally "NOPE, not even an option!" about it.

Social skills is half the battle.

>>18598976
We don't know, we aren't her. Talk to her and ask her how she feels about you.
Also: 45 minutes distance is ridiculously little and if it didn't work out, you aren't meant to be.

>>18599251
I have a decent sense of humor and I don't think I'm dumb.
People can't change their personality, and it's stupid to count on making >500k when I'm not even out of college.
Doesn't seem like I have any actual options since I'm too far gone to improve socially.
>>18599253
See >>18599262.
>>18599265
Social skills don't make up for being extremely unremarkable looks-wise, do they? Not to mention actually acquiring normal social skills would take me years by now, and it would be an uncomfortable process for a payoff that is far from being guaranteed.

>>18599273
>too far gone
Sorry man, if you're too far gone that's basically the final nail in the coffin. If I were you I'd just improve not for romance, but just to not be some sort of social pariah and to have great friends in the future.

Oh. And, social skills do in fact make up for it. We've all seen charming fugly or 4/10 guys with qts.
Some of which aren't even rich.

>>18599273
Anyway, you're way too hard on yourself, you need to let up. But from the way you talk, it looks like you've given up on yourself. And if you've done that, then you really shouldn't be thinking about getting into a relationship, no matter how attractive the person you want is or not. Focus on improving yourself.
>it would be an uncomfortable process for a payoff that is far from being guaranteed
There is literally no downside to improving your social skills.

>>18599273
>I'm not even out of college.
>I'm too far gone to improve socially.
What? That's silly.

Guys, what does a thick or 'thicc' body type look like to you? Post pics if it helps.

>>18599286
Yeah I can't do smalltalk, my body language is dog shit, I'm awkward/robotic as fuck when I talk and move, I generally can't relate with people and feel uncomfortable in any social situation.
I can usually make male friends without too much difficulty as long as they're introverted or at not too outgoing at least, so that's fine.
>We've all seen
I haven't.
>>18599293
I've never been comfortable with people and things have been getting worse ever since I graduated high school.
I won't put myself in uncomfortable situations voluntarily either, since it makes me extremely anxious and I always feel like shit afterwards even if it went well. Crowded places make me dizzy sometimes too.
>>18599292
>way too hard
How do you know?
>you've given up
If I'm being completely honest I might be looking for an excuse to give up, since it would make things so much easier.
>improving yourself
The only thing I'm improving is my knowledge and skills.
>no downside
I never claimed there was.

>>18599299
Google "pawg"

Girls, how would you react being called "mom" by a male friend?

I accidentally did that a while ago and i want to fucking die.

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>>18599299
The most important to note about anything THICC is the hip to shoulder ratio. If the hips are not wider than her shoulders, she is not THICC regardless of how fat she is. Some people like to define THICC as being pretty fat, but also stacked; others like to think of it more as fat, but only in the right places (Voluptuous).

The important thing for THICC is to have wide hips and a nice ass.

Tits are optional. Fat or not fat it doesn't really matter. You obviously cant be a STICC and be considered THICC; nor can you be WHALE and considered THICC.

Pic related, some ranges for what people consider THICC

>>18599323
I would laugh, probably make a joke, and move on. Maybe I'd tease him about it in the future if he's obviously still embarrassed. If he was obviously super uncomfortable embarrassed, I would let it slide. Unless he's the kind of friend that I receive schadenfreude from.
I wouldn't think any differently of him.

>>18599303
>I haven't.
Stop being a cheeky cunt. You know damn well it's possible, you just don't want to admit it.

>How do you know
Well you keep berating your looks when in reality you're probably not that bad. You also said you were "too far gone" but you also said you're in college. You're either too hard on yourself, stubborn, just plain wrong, or all of the above.
>I might be looking for an excuse to give up
>The only thing I'm improving is my knowledge and my skills
Yeah you're definitely looking for reasons to give up. Anons here are trying to give you advice on what to do, but you're just saying "no it's too hard and uncomfortable," and basically asking us to tell you what you want to hear.

>>18599323
It's whatever. I'd assume he did it sarcastically because I'm a nagging piece of shit.

Actually, 2 of my closest male friends call me "mommy".

>>18599338
LONDON
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But in all seriousness, calling someone else "mom" or "dad" is typically done in jest.

Guyanons I don't know if the red flags are really there and it's vague here but here goes
What does it mean when after talking about serious life stuff for a bit with a guy friend. You show a bit of concern for them and they immediately get defensive and say oddly specific things that you are thinking but can't say..."it's not like I'm gonna fall in love with you and try and ruin what you have and become cripplingly hurt by something that I know can never be in my mind. You have your family". The bf is saying it's a huge red flag that he had or is falling and that I should be clear with friend. I just don't want to jump the gun and make it awkward is all

>>18599348
What?

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>>18599299
To me it means a good waist-hip ratio. When a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist and a round thing in my face I get sprungggg. But seriously tho im pretty sure if you could narrow down what dudes find sexually attractive in woman, I'd think it'd be narrowish waist and large hips. a gril that looks ready for baby making..

I'm not sure what this dude >>18599327 is talking about with shoulder size, usually for grils as long as her shoulders arent wider than mine we;re good to go. Most of the girls posted by him look wildly exaggerated.

Don't let memes make you feel insecure. The most attractive thing a woman can wear is a smile. If you have a positive mindset people will pick up on it and enjoy being around you.

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>>18599354
see also:
jellybeannose

>>18599342
You don't want to be my friend.

>calling someone else "mom" or "dad" is typically done in jest.
Oh yes. They do it because I nag them all the time and I worry way too much.
One of them is sick and bedridden, and I've been taking care of him. Our last chat is something like:
>Did you eat?
>Yes, I heated your pizza leftovers. It was amazing.
>Good, I'll make you some more next week. I'm coming over lately to do your laundry. Do you need help with chores? Is your house clean?
>No, mom - you cleaned it 2 days ago.

>>18599354
>That backdrop
>That bed/table
Is it bad that I almost immediately recognized it

>>18599354
>Don't let memes make you feel insecure.
Don't worry, I'm not. I do have that hip-to-waist ratio going on, my concern is that the term has become appropriated by landwhales like 'curvy' and 'voluptuous' have.

>>18599337
>it's possible
Sure but it's unlikely. The only ugly guys I've seen with hot women were 6'2+ and/or obviously rich.
>you're probably not that bad
I'm not hideous, no. I've never had a girl look my way either.
I don't understand how being in college improves my situation, what does my age have to do with how difficult I find social interaction?
>you're definitely looking for reasons
I have the reasons. What's keeping me from just saying fuck it is the uncertainty, I don't know if I'll be more satisfied if I give up and focus on other things, or if I keep worrying about it and start doing things I hate just to maybe someday get a girl.
>it's too hard and uncomfortable
Dude my vision fucking blurs when I'm in a store because I can't handle being around more than a dozen people at a time. I could take steps towards being less of a fuckup but not only will it be really tedious, I'll also probably never be really "normal".

>>18599363
>my concern is that the term has become appropriated by landwhales like 'curvy' and 'voluptuous' have.
It's starting to, but most people understand when it's used properly and improperly.

>>18599363
>my concern is that the term has become appropriated by landwhales like 'curvy' and 'voluptuous' have.

I'm not sure we're there yet with 'thicc' but it'll get there eventually. It doesn't matter what kind of label you put on it; sexy is sexy

I sent some girl a thing on sarahah saying she's cute and funny and she shared it daring me to come forward. Background info: I dated her friend way back in high school, they're not friends any more, we "know" each other but don't know each other, you know? and she might know my ex. We're both lonely kinda out of shape 25 year olds.

Worth coming forward or just enjoy that I made someone mildly happy for a minute?

Girl i slept with says she she is back with her bf, yet is still talking to me.

I dont understand.

>>18599352
>Friend:says oddly specific things after a serious conversation implying that they have possibly felt love for me and has already played that fantasy out(I'm in a serious relationship)
> bf says red flags showing and friendship could end bad if I don't clear things up

>>18598899
Anyone?

>>18599398
Don't do it. If they've faded out it's best not to get involved and to cherish that image they used to be

>>18597789
why aren't western women more aware of their bullshit? i'm not a perfect guy and i dont even try to act like i'm the shit. I have seen many women who also fall under this and yet a woman will fight tooth and nail to make it look like her shit dont stink. I'm getting tired that women need to act like your dirt when in reality she's probably not worth shit on the same level as a guy.

>>18599406
they're pressured to look good

>>18599406
How successful are you with women?

>girl i'm texting and planing a date with tells me some old guy touched her ass while she was out in a swimsuit
>me: What an asshole, did you do something? He deserves a slap at the very minimum

Now, I know my wording here was really cringey. English is not my 1st language but at least I feel like the "at the very minimum" part is really stupid.

She answered me with an "Eh" and changed topic in a way that finished the conversation. Did I fuck up with this answer? What is the right answer in this kind of situation?

>have old friend from high school
>haven't talked to her in years
>always had the biggest crush on her and we were close back in the day but never dated
>she's single
>I'm single
>we got together the other day, talked for an hour, hugging, touching, flirting, etc
>how do I proceed?

We're both 28, she has two kids, she's doing her best but could use a little help. I think that was some motivation in reaching out to me (she reached out) but I've always loved and cared about this girl. I'd love to have a relationship with her. We live some ways apart right now but I travel a lot anyway and she works a lot so I don't see it being an immediate issue. Has had a history of bad boyfriends and I've always been the "nice guy" and I think there's an opportunity here.

>inb4 cuck

I don't have a ton of options, I ain't the prettiest motherfucker, she's always been gorgeous and I'm getting older and I want to settle down. Also, she's about the only one that's ever gotten my quirky Asperger's ridden ass.

>also a virgin at 28 and not sure how I'd explain this even if the relationship got to this point, which is not my primary goal since I really just want to be there for her and help her succeed because she was one of the few people that was legitimately nice to me back in the day.

wat do?

>>18599411
Should have just said, "Probably because you have a great ass"

No need to act the hard man just make a joke.

>>18599403
Maybe. Still, we were never more than friends. But she seemed to care and enjoy talking... So idk why she went quiet.

Also, idk why I suddenly started thinking bout her again...

Hi girls,
how do you know when a guy thinks you're cute? Aside from the obvious him telling you.

>>18599421
If you think you're cute, then guys probably think you're cute. I don't mean that in a 'be more confident in yourself' way, I mean that in a 'most guys will fuck anything with a vagina' way.

>>18599415
thought about doing this but idk how seriously she takes this kinda stuff

had a great texting day, went sexual, she mentioned inviting me over her flat for "netflix and chill" and so on, and right after that this happened. This is the continuation of the texts:
>she: Eh, enjoy your movie tonight tho
>me: So I don't need to save that one for your flat?
>she: Oh you are right hahahaha, don't watch it

then told her good night and she said good night to me with a bunch of moon emojis, first time she's used emojis to me

I'm probably overthinking way too fucking much and it's all a-ok, right? Fuck, I get so obsessive about women texts.

>>18599411
"at the very minimum" makes grammatical sense, don't worry. You're implying that he deserves a slap or something worse.

If you really wanted to critique your response, you did put her in the position of asking what she did. That is a difficult subject. There is a lot of pressure for women to "fight back" to sexual harassment. In the moment, it's not that easy. What if my escalation makes it worse? What if he's mentally unhinged? What if someone accuses me of "asking for it" for being in a swimsuit?

Also a lot of the times, they don't hang around. When I got my ass groped by a guy, he ran immediately afterwards. I yelled after him, "Dude, really?". I didn't really think about what to do in the moment. My heart was racing really bad and I was kind of in shock. Nothing like that had ever happened to me before. I was really shaken. It made me realize that it could have been worse, that there really are people around who will do these things to women, disregarding their sanity and safety.

I called the police, but as far as I know nothing came of it. Some people are really nervous about calling the police too. I made a lot of jokes about it for a couple days, but then I couldn't stop thinking about it and ended up sobbing to a friend about it. It's hard to know how people will react to these things.

Here's what you could have said instead:

>What an asshole! How are you doing? Are you alright?

Whenever someone comes to me with something like this, I like them to set the scene. She could brush it off as no big deal, or she could be deeply rattled about the experience. Don't assume that it'll be one way or the other, and just ask her how she is.

>>18599414
God damn at least my life isn't like this

>>18599354
>>18599358
those girls are butt ugly and skinnyfat, not thicc or attractive. you're a russophile pedophile and should be locked in a cage

>>18599443
Yes daddy, lock me up

Girls

Shit like this makes me repulsed by sex, especially hook up shit.

>i fucked 4 dudes in 4 days
>it was a tough week for me

What do girls do this shit?

https://youtu.be/FX4eLjVmffw

>>18599449
you're undersexed. it's either a physical or psychological problem with you

Men, would you date a fat woman if she js sweet? I have never had a boyfriend before although I am not a virgin.

>>18599449
Just hoes being hoes, don't complain since they are there for us guys to fuck.

If every girl was a prude who would we have sex with?

>>18599474
Fat women are only good for somebody's cumdump - why you've never been in a relationship before

>>18599473

What do you mean?

>>18599476

I don't believe in casual sex or hook ups..

>>18599484
a healthy adult human can see the appeal of fucking

>>18599474

Yes. The girl I'm trying to get with now isn't skinny and I love her all the same.

>also, as a fat girl, you're probably going to die earlier, which means I'll get your life insurance monies and can use that to get me a 20 year-old slut when I'm in my 60's/70's.

>>18599449
>What do girls do this shit?
The hoes, come on. They are not the majority.

>>18599484
Why not? Sex is fun if you are attracted to someone physically you should be able to fuck them.

Plenty of women I have slept with because I thought they were gorgeous but were people I would never want to be in a relationship with. Why would you pass a night of fun up?

>>18599487

I think I'm a healthy adult. I exercise regularly, eat right, travel, and have some friends.

I just don't believe in casual sex or hook ups

>>18599492

It's weird..

I will say, when I was 19 I did do a hook up once before. It was fucking terrible. I feel bad about myself for doing it.

>>18599492
Not him but the idea of hookups make me feel alone because I guess I don't feel adequate in that way, and afterwards it's like you'll never see them again, and I sort of have abandonment issues. I've never hooked up before also, so I guess there's a "fear of the unknown" aspect. Also I'm afraid to be rejected

>>18599495
you can't see why it'd be fun to fuck a variety of attractive people. something is wrong with you

>>18599505

>something is wrong with you

No there isn't

>>18599431

why? I'm potentially getting the girl of my dreams after 10 years.

>>18599418
If you haven't talked in a while what was the last conversation?
Have you considered financial problems or worse suicide for your friend?

How do I get a woman to pull down her pants and fart in my face?

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>>18599505
STDs, pregnancies, possible hurt feelings, meaninglessness, abandonment, it not feeling good enough, misunderstandings...there's a lot of possibly unfun stuff about fucking.

There's something wrong with you if you can't imagine this at the very least, and instead try to make someone who doesn't share your tastes feel like shit.

>>18599508
there for sure is. you can't be all "why is everyone but me doing life wrong and making me unhappy" and pretend you're right about shit

>>18599517
condoms and not having your deficiencies solve all of those problems

Where my BRAPgals at

>>18599522
Why does it trigger you so much that some people just don't have much of a sex drive? Do you even comprehend what "deficiencies" even mean? They barely even apply to most of the things I listed.

>>18599527
>why do you argue when I pretend my problems are actually a problem with everyone else?
because you're the goddamn problem

Do ugly guys with low self esteem have a chance on tinder?

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>>18599533
I'm not even that anon you were talking to. I don't even have an issue with being undersexed or whatever, or have an issue with people that fuck every day. I was just suggesting why someone may not be that into sex and you took it personally.

>problem with everyone else
You're projecting pretty hard, anon. You okay?

>>18599533
Anyway I'm just going to assume you're baiting. You're just too embarrassing to believe.

>>18599519

Being disrespected isn't going to make me feel happy

>>18599522

Condoms are not 100% effective against STDs and pregnancy

>>18597789
Is my girlfriend hiding me?

Long story short

>met thai girl on tinder
>she is only in states for 3 months
>she wanted to add me on facebook
>notice she has 1250 friends
>its been 2 months now and we are now bf/gf
>have a mutual agreement to go our separate ways once she leaves

However she has never posted a photo of us or any place we have been to except once on FB. Yet when she goes somewhere with her friends she will post like 30 pictures. I like photography so I take a bit of pictures of her and she enjoys it but when I send them to her she never posts them. I know I probably shouldn't even be worried about this but it bothers me for some reason.

Should I not even worry about this? I kind of feel like a reason she would want to keep me on the low is that she doesn't want people knowing that she has been fucking a foreigner while in states supposedly learning English.

>Be 20, no girl experience whatsoever because I think I'm ugly and my social skills kind of suck sometimes.
>Fuck up with every girl I try to talk to romantically, can't put myself out there because that's too terrifying
>Fall in love with my best friend, realize it in November before she leaves the country for a month (almost right after a bad break up)
>Spend 2-3 months trying to give her time/get the right moment to tell her
>The day I finally get to arrange something with her, she fucking tells me she's been seeing someone and is really happy
>This fucks me up for some time, my heart felt crushed
>Decide that I'm clearly not cut out for this shit, hate myself
>A month or so ago, I started developing feelings for my other friend (that my roommate hooked up with)
>Not love, but I wouldn't mind a date or two and seeing where it goes
>Her depression and anxiety fucks her up so we don't really talk about much, (but hey we've got a long snapstreak so priorities, right?)
>Try to get her to hang, she's super busy with work
>Tried to arrange a day to cook and chill, look forward to it all week
>That day she is like "shit I'm still at the beach"
>Hate myself even more
>Go to a party that night, can't socialize until I'm drunk because I'm terrified of people and girls
I don't want to give up, but I'm tired of fucking up. I guess what I'm looking for is advice on what to do with myself and this girl. I know I should focus on myself, but I feel like with everything going on I need to multitask and not miss what may be the best opportunities of my life. Sorry about the long post

There's a man I talk to who works at the gym I go to. Whenever I'm heading off to leave he tells me when he's working next. How do I show enough interest to get him to ask me out?

I think a friend that suddenly has been really friendly towards me wanted to kiss me yesterday, I was trying to open the door to my house, and she put her face incredibly close to mine, we were a mere inch away from kissing, but I just asked her what happened and she laughed and we forgot about it, I didn't want to misinterpret her intentions so I didn't kiss her or make any moves, does this mean she likes me? Do girls do this? She has also said other stuff that points towards her being interested in me, like saying that kissing me wasn't just a drunk mistake and that she didn't regret it (it was a playful conversation so I didn't press any further) BUT kissing a rando at a party was and she did regret it, and other stuff like that, again, could she like me?

>>18599608
Lol you're not her boyfriend. You're her stateside FWB.

>>18599663
Well that may be true but we had a long talk about a little over a week ago and agreed to bf/gf until she leaves. If she just wanted sex from me then why would she even bother coming over when she is on her period? I don't do anything super special for her. And she even asked me if there was no sex would I still like her. Hell, she even chose me over hanging out with her friends when she already had plans with them. Most of the time she is over consist of just laying in bed and watching Thai romance movies (which are surprisingly good).

>>18599474
Depends on how fat if a girl is kinda chubby she can still be really cute.

I've been talking to a girl I like (mostly casual stuff) but last week something happened, one of her friends (a girl but she's married) asked her if there's something between us. The problem is that she told me what her friend told her in a 'how funny is that' tone. How fucked are my chances now?

>>18599807
depends on the type of person she is.
that tone could be because she's trying to indirectly scope your feelings out without admitting anything herself.
of course, the possibility you have no chance is just as high, if not higher.

Girls who forgave their boyfriend for cheating - what made you do it?

>>18599822
Thanks I'll try to make a move

>>18599849

Not a girl, but I'd imagine the answer is simply; the same lack of foresight that led them to date a cheater in the first place.

How do I convince my SO to get help? She is suicidal almost every single day lately. I try helping her all the time. I talk to her for hours, I do things for her. I love this girl, and I'd do this every day for her if I could, but I worry that it's hurting the relationship. It's incredibly draining and taking a huge toll on my mental health as well. I'm in a state of perpetual worry, I'm having panic attacks, I'm relapsing into my own depression and suicidal thoughts sometimes that I went to therapy for years for, I feel like I may be losing myself; but I know if I don't help her something bad could happen to her. I don't think she can see this. I know she's serious too, because she nearly went through with it once. She really needs help, but I don't know how to approach her with this idea. I've mentioned it before, and I think she thought about it but brushed it off. I worry she was kind of offended that I mentioned it. I want to bring it up to her again, but more seriously with a better chance of success. How can I do this?

girls, tell me if you think this is right.

>be dating girl for 5 months
>been seeing her since january
>i have suspicions she still has feelings or even cheated
>she lied to me one day about what she was doing, said she was getting her sister, when she really went to her ex's to "pickup her stuff"
>i found out that because i went through her phone later that night and saw she called him after she left my house, so she told me she went there
>says she only went there to pickup a ticket to a place she wanted to take me, says she left right after
>says she was gonna tell me, but was afraid i would over react
>also, found her talking to a guy on snapchat, he lives in canada, but they originally met on a dating site. says she doesn't like him, but they are good friends
>she says she doesn't really talk to that guy anymore
>she still will ocassionally talk to her ex
>says she has no feelings for him and that's why she broke up with him, because she was tired of him not caring about her
>he always is asking her to help him with something or he'll invite her to certain things even though he has a gf
>she is adamant that she is not cheating
>my friend doesn't think she is, but think she is stupid enough to not understand
>everytime i bring this up, she doesn't want to talk and gets mad that i get suspicious.

thoughts?

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>>18597789
Girls, how bad is this email?

Really want to talk to her more.

>>18600037

No inquisition. If you want someone to talk to you more you leave the ball in their court, not do this weird needy/complimenting autistic dance you just did in this email.

If you want to pursue a relationship with someone and maybe they're not putting as much into it as you'd like just say "Hey, I'd really like to spend more time with you. If that's something you're ever interested in doing you know where to find me."

If she answers, great, if she doesn't, oh well. Don't put her on the spot and ask her why she isn't more interested in you. That's not a very dignified way to approach women. It makes you seem like a child.

>>18600037
Autistic as fuck

>>18600049
This

So girl i've been seeing has been cold with me for the past 2 weeks, time to junp back onto the dating wagon?
I won't do anthing to end it offically but it feels as if it's over

Then again i've heard the more secure people feel in a relationship the less sex is involved.

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>>18600049
Figured I fucked up pretty bad, so basically just this then?

Wrote a different message but I admit that also sounded clingy.

My BF and I are starting to look into swinging and threesomes. He's had tons of experience with this stuff and Ive only been with a girl once. I really want to do this but I don't want to fuck it up somehow. Any advice?

>>18599512
Bit of a delayed response.

But it was nothing too major, just her saying she had EMT training that day, and she was busy. I don't think financial issues as she lived at home and worked 2 jobs. And doubt suicide. Something would have been visible on her mother's Fb, or reported by the VFD she was with

>>18600085
You probably should apologize for whatever you did wrong. Judging from what you wrote you did something to piss her off

>>18600115
The only thing i can thnk of that i did "wrong" is that i've probably come on a bit too strongly and seemed needy.
I've give it a couple of weeks to calm myself down and then talk to her about "us"

Meanwhile i'll be tooling up for the dating scene in casde the situation is unsalvageable

>>18600113
Paramedic here. EMT girls are sluts, walk away now

>>18600139

yea, i made that mistake once. biggest slut ive ever met outside of a girl that was in the Air Force.

>>18600105
Well I sent it, hope it was better than the other one.

How do I get a tall gf?

>>18600303
Be taller than them or as close as possible.

>>18597797
This is literally me

>>18600309
>Be taller than them
That defeats the entire purpose

>>18600331
>or as close as possible

>>18597970
>t. shortstuff

Femanons,
Do you expect guys to initiate message convos? Do you just never message someone if they don't initiate? Or is it just guys you don't care about?

>>18600110
How can you fuck this up? Lmao
unless you're puking on her as you go down on her, what can go wrong?

>>18600380
It depends on the person and the dynamic I have with them.
I have people who always message me first, and people who I always message first and I care about both.

>>18600380
This is really a 'it depends' situation.

>>18597797
Good fucking luck, especially with the new wave of traditional guys being nationalists, or alt-right who have a goal to make white babies. You can try finding someone with a high IQ if you also have a high IQ, someone more interested in their work-related pursuits like a scientist. They'll also be contributing to the world instead of living a life of hedonism though absent of kids.

On that note, I want to meet a traditional girl. I live in NYC and plan to leave eventually. I want to meet a preferably white girl and move somewhere quieter, less shitty weather, with open roads to drive on. Would it be better just to move somewhere like that first? I'm still pretty young and it's going to take a long time before that dream is achieved.

>>18597892
are you aware that mutual love as the sole foundation for a marriage is not very traditional?

>misread girl I really fucking like
>she rejects me
>stop talking
>she messages me out of the blue just saying hi
>doesn't say anything after I reply

now she's in my head again like I can't focus on shit why did she messageme

>>18600495
Isn't it? What else does there need to be, apart from stability?

>>18600502
Traditional marriage is the foundation of the family. It is a partnership in which man provides financially for his wife and their kids, and the wife takes care of the practical needs of the husband and their kids. Love is a nice extra, but it wasn't the point of marriage - the point of marriage were kids and their upbringing.
You can't have a traditional family without kids.

>>18600502
Children basically. Why do you think arranged marriage has been and continues to be such a widespread practice across the globe? Besides being an economic resource in previous eras, children create a greater incentive for two people to stay together in the stable way you mentioned. Why would you even need to get married without them? What would that change? Insofar as one reason to marry is to make a public commitment to another person that your friends and relatives will hold you to, what would be the purpose of that commitment without children? What does it matter for your friends and relatives to hold you to this guy without children who depend on you? You're binging on junk food without a clue why your taste buds crave it in the first place.

>>18600498
>she messages me out of the blue just saying hi
>doesn't say anything after I reply
You fell for it. Girls get pleasure from seeing that a guy they're not into is still into them. Fucking sucks if all you did was misread her. At that point you should've made it apparent that you're with other girls just so she'll feel like she is below them. Think of it like this, maybe you dodged a goddamn bullet.

>>18600512
>>18600516
Those are fair points. As to wanting to get married without kids, I don't know, it just seems like it's the biggest and most serious possible way someone can express their feelings for you. That's what I think, anyway.

>>18600529
Thanks man

>>18598681

Me again, I just had a thought. If I read between the lines, is she asking me to make a move? Or am I overthinking?

Gather round lads.

My tinder date just cancelled our date on the same day, said she was sick. We had some really great conversation. She wrote a long message seeming truly sorry for not making it, she said she really wanted to meet me etc, but did not suggest another time to meet. What should I do

>>18600587
Suggest another time to meet, you retard.

>>18600587
If she seems sincere then try again just once. Shit happens and people have to cancel but don't let her dick you around indefinitely if it happens again.

>>18600023
Pretty fucking weird relationship dynamic where you go through her phone. Definitely not in favour of cheating in any situation ever, but that's some abusive relationship shit. Either trust her or dump her.

>>18600174
It wasn't.

This is exactly the kind of shit that dries up wells.

Men and women: I have been talking with some girl for a few hours online and want to make some kind of question, but doesn't want to sound creepy. This is such a small question that I don't feel like it deserves its own thread.

While talking about people staring, would it sound creepy if I asked her about her thoughts of me "looking" at her? Notice that I am not using the word stare in this case.

Why is this dating shit so fucking tedious and complicated?

>>18600612
Just to add, it is not something I would personally think is creepy if asked, but I don't know how others will react.

Gf is grossed out by semen. Won't swallow and doesn't want it in her. Thinks it's bad for her vaginal pH-balance or something and disgusting.
Anything I could do to make her more comfortable? Always having to use a condom sucks and I like the feeling of filling her.

>>18600658
>or something or disgusting?

Does this mean she is disgusted by the thought of having semen in her vagina? Or is it just about the pH-balance that she is worrying about?

>>18600612
Best not. Looking at someone is only weird if you make it weird. Asking her if it's weird is making it weird.

Girls

I just moved in with 2 girls for studying this semester. they are pretty cool but one thing that bothers me is that they walk around nude/half nude in areas that are not their own rooms/bathroom.

Am I an asshole for asking them to not do that? I dont really feel comfortable with this.

>>18600704
Yeah, I guess. I thought that if I will have a chance to look at her, I would probably already be in a situation where it wouldn't be unexpected, so I never sent it.

>>18600612
If a guy asked me that it'd weird me out.

>>18600708
No you are not. If you got separate rooms and bathrooms then you should be able to put at least some rules for your own space. I bet that they would mind if some random guy decided to walk around naked in their room.

>>18600714
No need to worry. Never sent it anyways. Thanks anyways.

>>18599022
>>18599195
No / 0.
Is this what you wanted to hear? To validate your personal excuse for never trying and embracing defeat and nihilism? Try harder.

>>18599113
>You will walk away from her when she has violated your integrity, and you will let her walk when her heart is closed to you. She who can destroy you, controls you. Don’t give her that power over yourself. Love yourself before you love her.

>>18599211
Cant you ask her on date instead?

>>18599348
Your ability to ask questions is bad. Like super bad, try again.

>>18599386
>>18599388
>>18599516
>>18599623
>>18599629
>>18599656
>>18599807
>>18600303
Ask her/him on date dummy.

>>18599411
She did tell you to get your attention. Ask her on date and pretend this convo didnt happen. Next time tell: because your ass is like magnet.

>>18599414
DONT DO IT! Your value as male goes up with age, females value go down. Find real single gf. Online dating, social events, anything but single mom!

>>18599474
>>>/fit/ sticky fat bitch
>inb4 misogyni
I sent fat dudes to the same place all the time too fat bitch.

>>18599870
Leave her alone. Some people cant be helped. Staying with her will make you suicidal eventually too. She obviously isnt sombody you want to marry and have children with. Time to cut loses short.

>>18600085
Yup, she ghosted you, delete her and move on with your life.

>>18600110
Dont do it. Have some self respect.

>>18600380
If you are boy and wait for girls to start anything, you will die alone.

>>18600498
We call them attention whores. Block her.

>>18600622
It is only as complicated as you make it. Be attractive and even the most straightforward approach will work. But are you attractive in the first place?

>>18600658
She is kinda right. Vagina has this pH to kill any bacteria and your semen is the other side of spectrum to cancel it out and give sperm chance to survive.

Sorry, but until you two want to make baby, she has all rights to reject your semen in her vag. Live and let live?

>>18600708
are you gay anon?

>>18600752
>Quoting the Sixteen Commandments of Poon
That shit is trash

>>18599414
Normally I'd say try it out, but having kids definitely throws a wrench in things.

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>>18600772

>>18600759
your mom is gay

>>18599623
>>18600752
I would, but I'm afraid of fucking it up again.

>>18600815
Well, what is your master plan? To never try and die alone? Make up your mind. Besides, talking with girls isnt that hard or complicated. Treat them like boys with one exception: handhold them and ask them for netflix and chill. Kissing works too.

http://www.improveyoursocialskills.com/conversation

>>18600711
No one expects people to completely avoid looking at them dude.

>>18600824
stop spamming that link, anyone that isnt a confirmed autist can do all of that easily

>>18600824
Ideally I wouldn't be afraid and would just go for it, but that's the way it is. I didn't ask to be a 20 year old with no girl experience, but I did it to myself. I don't even know where to start. "Hey, I know you've been really busy lately but I'd like to hang w you at some point before classes start back up" just seems pathetic.

>>18600853
>isnt a confirmed autist
Where do you think you are? Half of posts here are from (social?) retards.

>>18600857
>pathetic
Your example is fine. Stop thinking of yourself as sub human and try it. If she is into you, she wont reject you no matter what you will tell her.

Just remember to never talk about love or relationship. Spam invitation on dates, try the netflix thing, touch her, smile like retard BUT DONT TALK ABOUT LOVE. That is her job.

Ask her on date already and good luck. You have nothing to lose. You either get a date or a freedom to pursue other girls in case she rejects you. Before the date thing, ask for her number.
>why do you want my number anon?
>so i can ask you on date later femanon.
And really, SMILE!

>>18600865
>Before the date thing, ask for her number.
We've been good friends for almost two years now.

To be fair, that link you posted is pretty self-explanatory.

>>18600663
Both. I don't get what's so disgusting about it.

Ladies, what are your thoughts on men who still live with their mother in their late 20s?

I have a job, but don't want to go pay expensive rent and don't have enough saved right now for a house deposit.

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>>18600915
Tell your future gf that you help your mom to not live alone and saving for car by evading rent. And pic related.

Be confident and girls will come no matter what.

>>18600915
It seems a little childish, to be honest.
Unless you couldn't afford living alone or your mother needs help in any way, I would be a little disappointed.

I ASKED HER OUT FOR A DRINK AND HAVEN'T GOTTEN A REPLY YET IT'S BEEN ALMOST 10 MINUTES. IS THE DREAM OVER?

I'm the ugly duckling in my social circle (STEM postgrad). This makes dating impossible. I cannot date in my social circle, cause nobody likes my body, but they are the only people that I can connect to on an intellectual level.

I tried to be open minded and date girls outside of my social circle but it doesn't work at all. They get bored with me. I get bored with them. There is zero connection.

Anyone else has dating woes because they are an outcast? Not really sure what to do. Nothing works.

>>18600933
YES YOU SHOULD SPAM HER ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU LOVE HER

>>18600940
NO HE SHOULD TELL HER THAT SHE'S A FUCKING BITCH AND ISN'T WORTH HIS TIME ANYWAY

I asked a girl out expecting her to say no, but she said yes. What the fuck do I do now? Literally never been on a date before.

>>18600947
you go and try it out so you gain exp and level up
you never go for the final boss at the first battle

>>18600950
Yeah but what do I do? What if she wants to dance, I don't know how. I'm pretty good at karaoke though. Do girls like that.

>>18600955
more a party thing than a date one. go drink or eat something, chitchat about shit, take a walk, go see a movie or listen music, look the events in your town and see if something happens

>>18600947
Yeah you fucked up

>>18600955
Don't swing for the fence on a first date. Huge gestures are the domain of hollyweird and won't be appreciated by a real, live girl.

Keep it easy. Go and get some food and see a movie, or basically pair any secondary activity with going to get food.

take girl to ice skating > skate until you're both cold and tired > go get food/coffee/misc light meal (emphasis on light meal, atmosphere should be casual and not intense) > chat some more > take her home

On your date just be likeable. She said yes so you're already in the doorway, keep up whatever you've been doing to get this far. Prepare a couple of backup topics to talk about in case you are headed for an awkward silence. Introduce touch if you can - this will cement you as a sexual object and help to avoid the two of you just ending up as buddies. Even just holding hands for a little while is better than nothing (this is why you take a girl to do an activity like ice skating where you get the chance to touch each other without it being totally out of left field).

Otherwise make sure to smile and have a good time. Having fun is infectious.

>talk to grill for a while
>ask her on date
>she says yes
>say how about the museum
>she says sure
>ask when her next day off is
>she says it's not for 2 weeks

First, she does have two jobs and goes to school, but she had today off apparently. Am I being meme'd? I replied we could also just get coffee so it wouldn't take up the whole day, but she hasn't read it yet. I've gotten the two weeks line before, so is this a thing girls do?

>>18600933
Wait 36 hours and if nothing until then try again, preferably in person so the bitch cant evade question.

>>18600936
Post pic. Online dating and social events you hate works too. You dont need common ground with her to have fun. Just open mind.

>>18600947
Looks like you will have to go on date. Here, take this
http://www.improveyoursocialskills.com/conversation
it is dangerous to go alone.

>>18601002
>TWO jobs
>school
Is she workoholic? Is she robot? Ask her why she works so much and how does she plan to have time to any relationship.

>>18601009
>>TWO jobs
Apparently. One at Marshall's, I forgot the other one.
>>school
Yeah, uni.
>Is she workoholic?
Not sure
>Is she robot?
I hope so.
>Ask her why she works so much and how does she plan to have time to any relationship.
I'm guessing to pay for college and shit. She fell for the meme so I guess that's just how it goes. Yeah I'm concerned about the time for the relationship, I'll be asking all this today when we talk.

>>18601014
I wouldnt date girl like her. If she cant date more than once per two weeks, it will probably lead nowhere. You will be that couple who is together for 2 years, but had 10 dates total and didnt even cuddled yet.

Sure hardworking girls are rare, but everything should have its limits.

>>18601014
I'd give her a miss. If she's working that hard there's a good chance she'll end up resenting the need to spend time with you to maintain a relationship when she'd rather be resting.

>>18601017
Well I mean, the museum is an entire day. But you can go on dates and stuff after work and school, right?
>>18601021
God fucking damn it, seriously? She's a cutie and really sweet. Man fuck this gay earth, this shit happens so often where I find girls and they live far away, or are always busy, or a list of things.

>>18601021
>If she's working that hard there's a good chance she'll end up resenting the need to spend time with you to maintain a relationship when she'd rather be resting.
Some of the best ways of maintaining a relationship are through shared naptime and just chilling out not doing anything special.

>>18600603
>Follow /adv/ice and ask if I didn't fuck up
<Radio silence until hours after I sent it
Y-you too

>>18601024
When i was going to uni, it swallowed half of my day easily. Transport, lectures, tests, homeworks. Then you have 8 hours of sleep. In first year i also worked as cashier, that swallowed weekends.

I cant imagine having 2 jobs and uni as well. Either she is studying some meme degree (where you dont have to work hard to pass) or the jobs arent real jobs. Either way, it sounds like bullshit to me.

Also >>18601021 this.

>>18601028
Shared naptime is literally the second best thing in the world behind taking a gigantic piss when you've been busting for a long time, but doing that once every other week as your date isn't a sustainable relationship.

>>18601030
Heard from her yet?

>>18601033
She's going to school for psychology, works one job at a behavior health institute, and then marshals. Seems like pretty easy shit, but I don't know. Maybe she wasn't comfortable about having a date that lasts all day? Like I said, I offered just coffee and stuff.

>Brandon, that guy who keeps asking about cuddling in platonic friendships, fart guy and the guy who stuffs his pants
Man every time I come back to /adv/ that list gets longer.

>>18601038
You are asking right questions, but to wrong people. Hope for best and ask her, not us.

Good luck in dating game and remember, if she cant be arsed to make time for you, she wont make time to fuck/date/marry you eithet.

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Guys, am I attractive?

>>18601047
Turn off the filter for more accurate results

>>18601047
Looking like you probably fall vaguely on the good side of average. Good news is you're a girl and so men will fall over themselves to be with you anyway.

>>18600924
Honestly where I live you got to wait for about 11 years in a line to even get the chance to buy a house. I would say that a lot of people are either too poor to afford one as they cost a fortune, are still in line, or do not want to get in debt by taking loans just to get one.

Kind of new here, so sorry for any mistakes.

There's this girl that I'm dating on and off, but the relationship isn't really going anywhere. We're talking on whatsapp about next years classes and she says she's stressed about some of hers being in English (not our native language).

She says we could study together and I'd help her, I ask her if it would be as friends, or something else (more bluntly than I otherwise would be, because I'm not really sure about it).

She responds with: Is that important?(kissy smileyface)

Do I go on being honest/blunt or do I say something else?

>>18601055
tell her it's crucial. no smilies

>>18601047
Will ask on date. Your face looks a bit funny, but who cares. Dont be basic bitch (in your dating profile isnt: i like travelling) and you are good to go.

>>18601055
1. Never ever admit being new.
2. Never apologize beforehand. Bitches crave confident men, start being one by not giving a single fuck about what others think.
3. Ask her on date. Handhold her, kiss her, buy condoms and ask her for netflix and chill. Ask her on date.

And remember, some girls just want your attention, not your dick. Learn to ignore them if this is the case.

>>18601037
It's email ao I dont expect to any time soon, probably never going to do email correspondence with a girl ever again.

She's an ex home schooler with no phone so we both thought this was the best way but it's pretty bad. Reason why I wanted to send the message is because I sent a decent email 5 days after she finally sent a reply (July 18 and July 13 respectively) and she still hasn't gotten back and she's been infrequent as hell in general.

>>18601024
I'd go for her, I am the kind that does work and school at once myself tho so I really appreciate hard-working people. Also actually I'm often up for grabbing a beer and hanging out in evenings after work/school despite being tired sometimes (can always just watch netflix together) so maybe the meet-ups wouldn't be THAT rare. Don't blame her if she's too tired/not available sometimes though, if you decide to date her.

>girl gives me one to two word reply
>I have to work to keep conversation going

>I give one to two word reply
>Conversation dies instantly
What the FUCK

in terms of texting, what's the limit between "he's needy" and "he's not interested"

>>18601193
Don't expect anything out of your situation. If you don't feel like you can talk with somebody, then there might be too big of a problem to keep going.

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Girls, would you feel uncomfortable if your boyfriend want to have an opinion on your wardrobe?

guys, is it a problem if your gf has a male friend she talks to frequently? if you have a problem with it, what would you want her to do?

Would I be a bad person if specifically told my fling I didn't want children before we started having sex and she gets pregnant and keeps it and I decided to only pay child support and not be in the child's life?

>>18601223
is he a more attractive mate physically, mentally and financially? Does she seem like she could be interested in him? If yes, then it's a problem. There's not much you can do though; bringing it up would make you seem threatened by him, which would lower her view of you and raise his. I guess you could tell him to not get ideas and hope he doesn't tell her, or just make yourself better for her.

>>18601193
She doesnt find you attractive enough.

>>18601202
Needy:
>please respond
>i love you
>sending a lot of text without any reaction
Not interested:
>

>>18601220
That is gay and after marriage you lose any rights whatsoever about your living conditions, wardrobe and with certain girls even the right to express your opinion.

>>18601223
I would suspect he is your back up bf. Is he? Anyway ask your bf, not /adv. Relationships are about communication baby girl.

>>18601294
It takes two idiots to do unplanned pregnancy. You are as responsible as her in this mattet. Dont stick your dick in unless you are prepared to carry consequences for the next ~20 years

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>Girls
Does it feel good when your breasts are groped and massaged ? by your partner I mean.

Or is it different from girl to girl?

>>18601315
I am taking responsibility that's why I would be paying child support.

>>18601294
not being in your child's life makes you a bad person period, unless something beyond your control prevents you

>>18601334
I would would like to think it would be better then being there and resenting their existence, which I would be unfortunately.

>>18601312
not interested, not a threat. so that's a plus!

>>18601315
he's not, just a good friend. my bf is being dodgy and passive about it.

>>18601350
don't get her pregnant then

>>18601332
Kids need mommy and daddy. Be responsible and either do it all right with marriage included or use something like condom.

>>18601361
>dodgy and passive
That is him being for 95% uncomfortable about it. Basically every time you talk to your male friend, he is jealous / afraid / angry. Do this for a long time and your bf will either explode or simply leave you.

I would not tolerate such a thing. The cheating will happen sooner or later in such case.

>>18601376
>>18601379
>don't get her pregnant
I'm afraid it might be too late for that. To be more descriptive, I had sex with her and she took plan B and told me she's not pregnant, but she's gaining weight fast and has been avoiding me for a while now, and others say she looks pregnant too, So I fear the worse.

>>18601361
I answered assuming you were the bf, oops
if you're worried your bf has a problem with it, just reassure him that you're interested in him and not the other guy

>>18601391
you fucked up anon

>>18601391
I still remember how multiple posters here tried to shun me away by giving advices + buy condoms. Guess i will have to spam that thing even more.

Go see her in person, invite her to somewhere private, buy pregnancy test and make her pee on it. Some very crazy girls say they are not pregnant when they are for many bullshit reasons.

Act soon. After certain point abortion isnt avaiable anymore and maybe you want to try date her (in the case she is pregnant) so you will make that family thing. And do paternity test. Maybe she is big hoe.

>>18601410
Yeah I may have to be more forceful about it, but she is very anti-abortion after her last one years ago, so if I find out she's pregnant, I may have to poison her. Just kidding (Not really)

>>18601432
Also just to add on to that, I couldn't possibly count how many times I've told her I don't want children, so if she is pregnant and wants to keep it, she's on her own except for child support.