ITT: Ask the opposite gender anything

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24 year old graphic designer guy here.

Just curious, where do chicks who look like pic related usually hang out? Those that look like you can discuss something pseudointellectual with while drunk together but also have a good sense of humor. Or at very fucking least, who are somewhat artistic.

I am single right now but I don't want some random blonde or a normie girl, I have rejected those in the past.

Do women care a lot about a man's physique ?
I am 6'2 but probably only like a 6.5/10, if i got really in shape would it make a huge difference? basically what i'm asking is if women would fuck a guy for his body even if his face is only ok, average.

Do girls usually take nude selfies without sending them to anyone? Nudes for the sake of nudes?

This is more directed at women but I'll listen to answers from anyone. How much does money/family matter in dating/relationships? I come from a pretty poor and honestly dysfunctional family, I'm guessing this is one of those "there isn't one answer for everyone" questions but I'll ask anyway.

>>18491039
guy here
i think this matters more for women? at least in a traditional view with men seen as the providers and breadwinners although that is kind of changing i suppose. that being said if youre dirt poor and unemployed at 25-30 or later, its more of an indication of your character (being lazy, unmotivated) than anything. Also very few people, especially women want to have to pay for everything.

I have a very low number of friends on social media. I feel like once I made my friends list public on Facebook my girlfriend at the time, who was infatuated with me, started to pull out. She criticized me later for having only one close friend.

Sometimes I make the mistake of adding a girl I like on tinder to my Instagram because I have some cool stuff (piano playing, sportbiking, concerts) but they drop out instantly and I suppose it's due to having just 30 friends. I know low social status isn't sexy but investing in social media feels like a time sink.

>>18491039
It depends on how much you let that dysfunctional family into your lives. I married into one of these and let me tell you, while dating I thought it was no big deal. I was marrying the person, nott her family. Well if the family gets in your business and you don't stop it, the spouse or gf is going to get pissed. You don't think it can ruin s marriage or relationship but it can. It didn't in my case but I saw first hand how people could run from that shit.

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Why are some girls into skinnier guys?
It just doesn't seem like something that would be attractive to women but some love it. Can someone explain why they find it appealing?

>>18491053
21, I don't want to be a parasite as no one in their right mind wants that or deserves it. That and I wouldn't want that myself, It's more finding someone that doesn't expect me to provide for them.

>>18491069
I see, glad to know it isn't an instant red flag. I'm doing my best to keep them away but money for my own place is an issue. Any tips on what to do/not to do on how to not piss off potential dates?

>>18491017
Hipster neighborhoods, gay neighborhoods, look them up. They live on a diet of craft beer and eventually gain a lot of weight so be forewarned.

>>18491026
Guy here but I can tell you, I'm 5'10 and about a 6/10 as well in the face. I'm average weight and build and I got a good looking girl who some of my friends call my "trophy" wife. But it's really about personality on both sides than it is looks. Would you want to fuck a 10 that was a total bitch and made you feel small and stupid or a 6 that made you feel great and gave you the best sex ever? As I always say, once the lights are out, you can't see much anyway so who cares what they look like.

>>18490997
Girls: When do you feel it is appropriate to go to fourth base with your partner? When is appropriate? How far into the relationship? Should it be on a certain event?

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>>18491026
worked for the zyzz-kun

>>18491085
Nice, thanks!

>>18491084
Don't piss off potential dates by letting them around the dysfunction too much. Warn them in advance of any crazy behavior so they aren't shocked or scared. Don't let the family meddle in your business or run your life. Nobody wants a man who is afraid of (insert list) because of what his family will say, think or do. Be a man. Also don't be afraid to accept responsibility for taking care of someone. I know you don't have the resources now, but most girls want someone who is willing to provide if necessary and at a minimum meet them 1/2 way.

Girls, how long can you / do you want to ride the D?
I recently tried Viagra and after two rounds she didn't want to continue because she was sore. Then I realized I could have done the same thing without outside help with only a little longer inbetween sessions. Then again I heard of women who want it all night long, six times or so. Thought about popping a Cialis, but what's even the point of staying hard for two days straight if she can't take it/is satisfied with much less?

>>18491017
Obscure cafés, obscure clubs, at concerts of obscure undergrounds bands

>>18491071
Everyone has their taste. It's just how it is. Teen girls are usually into feminizes men, which means slim and sort of cute. Grown women on the other hand usually like bigger men, which doesn't mean outright fat or muscular. Just bigger. Taste is taste, dude.

>>18491071
I read somewhere that women have evolved to be attracted to different types of men so that their group of friends don't fight over their respective mates.

>meet girl at a political meeting
>meet again with just her to discuss stuff over drinks
>stay at her friend's house
>we go to a café the next morning and have breakfast together
>she leaves
>"let's see each other again soon anon! But fancy doing something nicer like having dinner and wine together?

So um, is that a date?

>>18491135
Yup. Congrats. Now kiss her you virgin.

>>18491071
I can't but I'm a guy. However, I'm not attracted to skinny girls. These anorexic types that go strutting around I don't find appealing at all. Fucking them must be like fucking a skeleton. I'm not looking for a whale either but I like an average girl that isn't fat but isn't a toothpick. I find those type the hottest. So as the other anon said, everybody has their own tastes.

>>18491135
Blatantly. Congrats Anon!

How can I stop thinking about girls as princesses?

>>18491120

Just one type of stimulus does tend to lead to soreness and discomfort and, frankly, even boredom, if it carries on too long. I like to have long sessions like 2+h, sure, but usually they include oral, fingering, vaginal and sometimes anal at varying measures. Just PIV for hours doesn't sound that pleasant. Skip the viagra and focus on improving other ways of getting her off and it will be much more fun than just straight up fucking for ages.

>>18491140
But I'm not a virgin, I did the lads proud last year and fucked a girl in an alleyway on the first date and honestly sex sucks but it was such a wild night

>>18491158
Well I made an effort but she only wanted PIV and as hard as possible *shrug*
Don't get me wrong she was completely satisfied but after that experience the need for a 36-hour boner eludes me.

>>18491121
Checks out, thanks!

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>>18491085
>>18491017
There's a gentrified street in St. Louis where hipsters hang out, but the surrounding neighborhood is a ghetto. I got punched in the face by a homeless dude on the way to my car. The artsy girls are too delusional in their liberalism to be aware that their stomping grounds is also one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the country, and I'm the idiot hopelessly attracted to them

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This girl I like asked me to senior prom after her ex bf (they broke up last week) asked someone else to prom before they started dating, she didn't have to ask me and even told me that she was just gonna go with her best friend instead. now that she's not dating him, could it mean that she chose to go to prom with me because I was the next best candidate?

>>18491210
What? That was all one sentence and I can barely tell what you're asking. Though if she's asking you to prom, then yes, she's probably desperate for a date and will probably spend the whole night ignoring you

>>18491135
Probably. Go along and have fun. Good luck :)

>>18491120
30 minutes? Idk, it's not like I've ever timed myself

>>18491094
I have no idea what fourth base you're referring to, it seems to mean something different to everyone. Though the fact that you said fourth base instead of just saying what you mean indicates that you're underage, which means you shouldn't be here

>>18491071
Why are you complaining?

>>18491067
Nice blog post

>>18491039
The dysfunctional family is more of an issue than the money thing, though together I would be cautious. Mostly because I've known people like that to manipulate family members and their SOs into giving them money. That said, half of my boyfriend's family are all on benefits and it hasn't caused too much of an issue for his parents, so it really depends on the situation.

>>18491038
Some do, probably.

>>18491026
Unless you're overweight, getting in shape wouldn't really change much for me.

Any female virgins disgusted by sex here? Just curious if it's common with women.

>>18491277
I'm disgusted by sex only when I think about myself having sex with some dude I'm not romantically interested in. Doesn't matter if he's a chad, if there are no romantic feelings, it's gross for me.

>>18491280
cute :3

>>18491280
As a guy I feel out of place, the idea of doing something so intimate with more than one person in my life makes me nautious. And I'd probably only be comfortable after a number of years.

>>18491286
>And I'd probably only be comfortable after a number of years.
Might as well say you're waiting until marriage then, because no girl is going to wait years to have premarital sex. And if you don't want to get married, then you're probably fucked (but not really)

>>18491248
The prom already happened and I had a great time and she even sought me out whenever I was away too long. Sorry for the run on sentence. To clarify what I was asking, I want to know if that was a sign that I was the other guy she would want to be romantically involved with

>>18491298
It's not like I mind waiting for marriage. I think it's a nice idea, it just sucks because I'm not particularly religious.

>>18491303
its 2017 lad
no decent woman will be down for that

>>18491303
Well I'd advise saying you're waiting until marriage, because that's the only reason I can see any girl waiting literal years to have sex for. It'd help if you were a virgin too.

>>18491312
Probably, and ya... If you haven't gathered I am a virgin.

>>18491313
Are you ACTUALLY uncomfortable with the idea of sex, or are you just insecure?

>>18491329
I'm actually uncomfortable with sex, its more like a feeling of disgust.

i have acne all over scars, big ones, on my shoulders and some on my back
i am super insecure about it and never take my shirt off in public, even when i was in shape
is this an absolute no go for girls or what? will they understand or think i'm dirty and dont shower and stuff, which i do, but i still get acne ;_;
and i have been to a derm before you recommend that

>>18491341
Go and see a therapist or something because that's not normal.

>>18491286
I understand that. I never looked at e from this viewpoint, but now I think about it, I wouldn't be able to so get lewd with many people either. Ideally I would love to find one particular guy whom I will love and who will love me back and that's about it.

>And I'd probably only be comfortable after a number of years.

I wouldn't say it's years in my case, but certainly some months.

People are different, you shouldn't feel bad about your approach to sex and intimacy. I used to get laughed at by my friends because I wouldn't blow some random guys on our nights out. It used to bother me, but now I don't care. It's just how I am, I don't like casual sex, I need strong intellectual and romantic bond to get intimate with a guy and enjoy it... If I never find the guy then too bad, I'll stay a spinster.

>>18491346
Already did, it's actually unbelievably difficult to treat to the point where it's more practical to just look for that particular girl. It's really hard to express in text but you have no idea how difficult it is to get over even a little

>go on tinder
>like this qt 3.14 girl
>match
>says she's only 1 km away
>cool
>she seems nice, not the typical tinder slut type
>I messaged her
>1 day gone, full 24 hours
>no response
>didn't delete me either
I feel like we could kick it off but she didn't respond
I think she might've either forgot about it or is too nervous to message back, I don't want to seem desperate and send another text, what do I do about this?

>>18491342
I pretty much have the same problem, I don't have acne on my face anymore but still on my back + ass + a lot of scars on shoulders

reposting for more perspective. for guys mostly, but female input is cool too:

>guy treats friend like a gf (a lot of attention, got mad when she got a hug from another guy, etc)
>gets really annoyed when she doesn't spend time with him
>notes how he doesn't mind having her personality in a gf
>proceeds to go on about other girls in front of her
>avoids being direct about sensitive subjects
>has other girls interested in him and is aware of this

my friend is going through some weird shit and the unclear boundaries are making her uncomfortable- should i tell her to ditch this guy? he seems shady to me and i'm worried he's trying to trick her into a fwb situation.

>>18491380
>avoids being direct about sensitive subjects
can you explain this?

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what would a girl do if her bf had to go for a month, comeback for a week, and leave for another two.

a part of my wants to break up because the thought of her cheating on me is too much to bear. Not that I can't blame her. Who wants a partner who leaves for weeks

My gf and I entered a weird spiral the past few weeks.

>we text
>I say something she doesnt like (joke, comment, or sometimes a blunt criticism)
>she gets mad, says I hurt her and downplay it, wont discuss the issue, goes silent for a day
>following day we talk again, explain ourselves and move on
>rinse and repeat every few days

Today, two days after she got mad at me for bluntly making a comment about her tendency to negatively react to things (I apologized for that one), I went to a nude model session and she got mad at me because I'd rather pay a stranger to do it, with other artists, than draw her. Then she started saying I always hurt her, then act as if it wasn't a big deal.
She then told me to go fuck myself, and silence...as usual.

I don't know what the fuck is happening. Before, I could put it on account of me being too blunt or unintentionally mean, so she was kind of right, but this time...

What do you guys think?

Does it really bother women to fuck with a virgin ?

>>18491389
its really rough dude but desu i wouldn't expect someone to be faithful through that and out of decency wouldn't put that burden on them either

>>18491389
It's a matter of how much you value the relationship. If both of you value the relationship enough, it will survive the bouts of long distance. If you don't, it'll crumble. Long distance is a trial by fire that either leaves the relationship stronger or crushes it.

However, if you think your girlfriend is the type of person to cheat on her partner in a serious relationship, why are you with her?

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Guys, how should girls gently let someone down on online dating sites? Especially if the guy has put thought into his messages?

I emailed back several times before realizing it wouldn't work out and don't know how to exit the conversation. Do you have any examples of people who have done it well, that you would be satisfied with?

>>18491388
he is prone to keeping his feelings to himself, he doesn't establish what their boundaries are and will evade questions about his romantic interests. he also doesn't express what his expectations of her are.

does that clarify things? i'm not sure what other examples would be appropriate.

>>18491406
I was in a ldr relationship awhile ago. We both knew it wouldn't work but I was committed to it, she wasn't convinced but kept talking to me anyway, but she was distant and often left me hanging, which made me feel miserable and confused.
In the end she said "hope you'll find someone nice. I don't want to do this anymore, sorry" after which she deleted me off of everything. It sucked but at least she was nice about it, still, left me confused because she was nice, but didn't give a reason why, she just left. I still feel like shit sometimes when I think about it, but I feel like explaining yourself to them and how it wouldn't work and that you're sorry but at least you tried is a good way to do it.
You'll break his heart anyway, but at least you won't make him question why, or if its his fault

>>18491406
something like
"Hey. You seem like a nice guy but I just don't think we're a match (explain why)."
It would be good if you let him know you appreciate the thoughtfulness and apparently (?) you think hes a decent guy, not just a "fuckboy". As long as you explain it like a mature adult you should be fine, and so should he. Being rejected is very hard on the ego and the heart so he might not take it well, but thats life i suppose. its a lot better imo if you cut if off know and let him know how you feel rather than drag it on and lead him on. the world would be a much better place if all women did this rather than just ghost guys.

>>18491389
how long have you guys been together and known one another? it really depends on how serious you two are. i was away from my boyfriend for months at a time (school) and we survived it, 8 years strong without even one breakup.

Do male gingers have freckles everywhere?

>>18491418
ok. if she has asked about what their relatioinship is, and if he sees them as a couple and he hasn't been able to come up with an answer and he keeps dodging it, he's probably immature or just trying to fuck her. even if he does see her as a gf or w.e, if he can't tell her this when blatantly asked about his expectations of her are and his romantic interests than there is something wrong. if she hasn't already, tell her to just ask him point blank if they're bf gf. if he says no or even worse is too much of a pussy to answer than move on.

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>>18491156

>>18491451
>>18491156
why do you want to stop?
>tfw you like being thought of as a princess

otherwise, my only advice would be to remember that girls are not all that different from you. we're people too!

>>18491421
>>18491422
Thanks a lot. I have such a hard time with this, because I MUCH prefer someone to ghost me. So I feel like I'm doing something I wouldn't want done to myself. But I will do as you suggest.

>>18491512
I think for girls its easier to get over someone, they can just open up tinder to 100 matches. With guys (especially introverted) its different, we don't get as much attention and break ups feel terrible, it means having to go through the process of finding someone again and you need to be at your best to do that, like you won't get a girl by being sad and looking all depressed, but once you do make a move you forget about the previous girl as the new one is making you feel good. With girls I imagine, its just the attention thats enough to make them feel better and try again, which you can get fairly easily I'd say so guys take break ups differently I think, I wish shit was laid out in front of me with all the info I needed during a break up so I don't have to think too much about it, so if you can do that to him you'd be doing him a favor

>>18491531
Okay /r9k/

>>18491421
>>18491422
I forgot to add...you both seem rational and mature, but if I'm dealing with someone aggressive, am I going to provoke them if I'm straightforward?

>>18491531
That's well explained. I'm aware it's imbalanced, which I is why I want to do the right thing.

>>18491542
/r9k/ frightens me some, but if you've signed up on a dating site as both a male and female, you'll see a difference.

Okay, 20 year old female here.

This guy that I've been seeing for about 4 months is dropping me off at the clubs and I'm going to party with my friends then he'll pick me back up and take me to his place whenever I feel like going home this week.

I haven't seen said guy for about a week. Would it be better to arrive at his house all sweaty and gross after gym the day before he takes me out, I have a shower and we chill and such. Or should I arrive at his place an hour before he drops me off looking amazing?

He appreciates authenticity, so I'm afraid if I do the latter I will come off as trying too hard.

>>18491557
is the fact that he's aggressive the reason you wanna break it off between you two? if that bothers you then being nice about it is the nicest thing you can do, if its irrelevant and its just not working out then I'm not sure to be honest, I'm not an aggressive person at all so I have no idea how someone like that would react but I suppose doing something to anger them even more is a bad option? ghosting him, leaving him hanging or just deleting him will piss him off no doubt, if you think he can find your phone number or something he might lose his shit and start calling until he gets some answers. But I'm not sure, I think if you're just nice about it, he'll understand, he'll have no reason to be angry like, and if he is, the more reason to break up with him no?

Do what the girl that dumped me did to me, be nice about it and just cut off all contact, this way he'll have no way to respond and you'll know you dealt with it in the nicest way possible without dragging it for too long, if you're 100% sure about the break up then I don't see how convincing you or whatever could be useful? chances are he might piss you off and you'll get into an argument and THEN you'll break up which will suck for both of you. End it and forget him, he'll get over it sooner or later anyway

>>18491360
nobody ever had to deal with this?
I'm clueless and don't know what to do and I'm afraid that if I wait too long she might lose interest or assume I lost interest if she responds too late so she just deletes me.
I don't get many matches so I'm taking all I can get

How do I message a girl on okc without sounding like a complete idiot or everyone else? There's a girl I match with on nearly everything but I'm terrible at talking to people to an autistic degree as is and knowing shes probably being bombarded with other messages makes it even worse.

>>18491461
Because most girls don't want to be thought of as princesses and guys say it is wrong. :(
Would you marry me, princess?

Girls, why are females so hypocritical? They say one thing but really want the opposite (ie they say they like a nice guy but in reality they want to get creampied by alpha chad who has a list of thots at his side)?

>>18491648
Firstly, that's not what 'hypocritical' means. Secondly, just because they don't want you, doesn't mean that they say one thing and actually want the opposite.

>>18491648
idk man, why guys are just the same? (ie that say they like a nice girl but in reality want to fuck some Stacy with a bunch of guys on the side?

>>18491659
>>18491667
>anon asks a question regarding the female psyche and certain aspects of the subculture

>femanons chimps out

I guess those BLACKED threads do have some shred of truth in them

>>18491659
>Firstly, that's not what 'hypocritical' means
Saying one thing and doing another? That is what that means

>>18491685
No? Hypocritical means that you disapprove of a behaviour and then engage it in yourself.

>>18491684
Whatever you say, /r9k/

>>18491646
m-maybe. how old are you and contact?

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>>18491360
>no responce
It is tinder. You are supposted to like 20.girls minimum and go on date with first one which replies.

Dont overthink problems dummy. Swipe more girls and until she responds, it is waste of time to worry.

>>18491392
She is immature as fuck and probably havent learned yet how to behave when on period. Break up. In future it will get only worse.

>>18491406
Send him
>after you told me X, i realized we cant date you, because we are incompatible. Good day and consider this message as break up.
It is not rocket science. Dont forget to delete/block him after.

>>18491643
>hi antonnete
>i am anon
>what are you looking for on okc?
>great, do you see me ad good candidate?
>wanna go on date with me?
Boom, under 5 sentences. The hard part is the 1st date. STOP OBERTHINKING PROBLEMS. Buy condoms.

>>18491648
Pic related.

>>18491578
>He appreciates authenticity,

the "authenticity" is already lost if you are thinking about it enough to ask about the situation, authenticity would be just doing whatever without really thinking about it.
but to answer your question i dont think he will probably not mind either way, to me girls all sweaty in gym clothes is sexy, girls dressed up looking good for the night is more romantic, so i guess it just depends on what vibes you want to give him for the night

>>18491667
all girls are stacies with guys on the side though

>>18491706
I didn't think you'd answer. Haha
I'm 29, but I am from the south hemisphere, so, probably too far away. How about you?

Threadly reminder of the pegging webm.
[ PTSD INTENSIFIES ]

>>18491710
>that pic

Western society needs to end and be rebuilt

>>18491583
That's one of the reasons. I'm probably feeling more cautious than I should. I've only broken up once, but it was in person. The guy was aggressive, and it was terrifying. I think you're right that messaging is the lesser of two evils.

Sorry about your gf by the way. I hope you find love again when you're ready.

>>18491710
>Dont forget to delete/block him after
Why is this? Won't guys take that as adding insult to injury?

>>18491797
>Why is this? Won't guys take that as adding insult to injury?
Yes, don't listen to that asshole.

>>18491727

Thank you!
The authenticity definitely isn't lost, we so seamlessly and effortlessly interact. We have never had an issue with comfort.
I'm just not used to wanting to look really pretty for another person and caring what they think >__<
I think I will definitely go with the latter, I would like a more romantic feel. Plus it will be good to break the routine a little.

Girls,
How does it feel before foreplay, 5 minutes into foreplay and 20-30 minutes into foreplay

>>18491913
>before
Pretty horny, may or may not be wet

>5 minutes into foreplay
Hornier, wet

>20-30 minutes into foreplay
I've probably already cum by then and am hungry for more

>>18491710
>Buy condoms
She's a virgin and religious she has it clearly stated on her page she wants to wait til marriage, I'm not looking to hook up I want to actually start off on a good foot for a relationship

>>18491690

hypocritical
[hip-uh-krit-i-kuh l]

adjective
1. of the nature of hypocrisy, or pretense of having virtues, beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually possess:
The parent who has a “do what I say and not what I do” attitude can appear hypocritical to a child.

Is English not your first language?

Okay, girls, I need your help. I posted recently about making a Bumble account. Well, I made one, matched with someone, and we started talking.

Things are alright so far, but her info and pictures haven't given me a lot to work with in terms of her interests outside of work. Is it okay to just ask her what she likes to do, or is that too boring?

I get the feeling I'll run into this more than once. Any suggestions?

Anons, if you are with your wife or your gf, do you foreplay? Do foreplay means that you have more feelings for your woman? If you spend years in a relationship and just right away stick it with no even a kiss before, that means you don't like that woman, right?

>>18492107
No foreplay doesn't necessarily mean the guy doesn't care about the woman. Plenty of guys underestimate how long foreplay should be, either for women in general or for their specific partner. Some women don't really need much foreplay. Other women need lots of it. It can be confusing for guys! And other times, guys are so ready to get right to it that they can kind of get a bit lazy or forgetful with the foreplay part. It doesn't automatically mean the guy doesn't have feelings for the woman

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>>18491156

>>18491156
I stopped doing this when I was exposed to the red pill. I took it with a grain of salt though, since red pillers can be a little extreme in their claims. Some go as far as to hate women, which is just stupid.

>>18492107
No, it just means she is overestimating herself again. During the relationship she wasn't really into foreplay, only fingering to stretch her out so I would fit.
After the relationship she wanted the foreplay a lot more but also complimented me on how I was a great lover because I focused on her pleasure so much.

Femanons, if a 5/10 guy you never met randomly asked you out, how would you respond?
Assuming you aren't in any relationship.

>>18492153
The red pill doesn't work on me. I've taken many.
Whenever I see a pretty, kind, skinny and delicate girl, I consider her a princess.

>>18492227
Well, I guess you just have to get shit on a few times then.

>>18491710
what garbage advice

>>18492253
Yeah, he's a regular shitposter that thinks every problem is solved with condoms.

>>18492237
I will not get shit on because I won't treat mean bitches as princesses.

>>18492276
you're just virtue signaling at this point

>>18491758
i'm 27 and in the usa. let's chat for fun anyways! do you have an email i can reach you at?

I'm 25 and my girlfriend is 20. Is this a huge age gap to you? My family gives me shit about it all the time. I'm scared of what her parents must think about this.

>>18492383
It's a pretty big gap. It would be more normal if you were both in your 30s or 40s but in your early 20s, it's a big gap.

>>18492393
>tfw 24 and recently single
>early 30's chick turned me away because I am too young
>also too old for 18-20 year prime pussy
Why live.

>>18492383
I wouldn't give you shit about it but that's probably the youngest girl I would be willing to date. It's a big gap but it's not really inappropriate or anything.

>>18491026
Female here.
What about you stands out the most?
For some good looking guys...it's their looks. But give it time, and the real important/practical side of them comes out.
For others, it's their personality.
What about you is most memorable and how do you make that person that you would like to attract feel?

>>18492413
My ribs are crooked and one side sticks out more than the other.

>>18492276
I think you underestimate just how manipulative and two-faced some women can be, anon, and I'm saying this as a woman. If you put people up on a pedestal like this, they're probably going to take advantage of you.

>>18492420
Truth be told we do. Especially since a lot of women are earning their own money. But here the thing though: there aren't enough ripped men for all women and it isn't the only thing that matters to a women so don't lose hope.

Women: Do you like being slapped around when you misbehave or talk back to your man?

>>18492552
Absolutely not. Try that shit and I'll slap you right back.

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I've been blessed with being hot, but terrible with people, especially women. Doushio?

>>18492383
It's not that big though you are at different stages of your life. At 18-22 you are in college or doing an apprenticeship, no one cares if you're single. Whereas at your age you're expected to have a career related job and looking date someone to marry.

If I told an extremely close friend of mine that I love her, would it ruin our relationship? If she doesn't feel the same, I mean.

>>18492588
The fact that you love her already ruined the friendship, so go for it.

>>18492171
"No, thanks". I don't know him, we never talked.

women.

i've only been with 1 person my entire life. we've been together for 7 years. other women in a similar position, have you or your bf felt the urge to explore or date other people?

i'm feeling insecure that my bf might wake up one day and realize i'm not what he wants.

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Why do women wear shorts that expose their ass cheeks, then pull them down over their ass cheeks every 100 seconds when they're walking, only for the ass to peek right out a few seconds later?

This defies both logic and feelings, why not either wear shorts that cover the whole ass or just let it all bounce and jiggle without a care?

Is 24/M virgin past the point of no return?

How can I get a mature women? I am a young man. (18)

>>18492605
I don't think it is about an "urge to explore", that would be solved by taking recreational drugs and bangin the shit out of each other, or after a concert or a wedding party. Which is awesome. I had several experiences with men before my last ex, I was loyal to him during 4 years until he fucked some whore after taking dmt, so I'm pretty sure it's about cheating or remaining loyal.

For both sexes

How do you feel about freckles?
I think they're the cutest shit (male)

>>18492795
Depends on the guy. Sometimes it's very cute.

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>Get jerked off by a girl,don't cum and she basically tells me to put up with it since she didn't cum either
>Offer to alleviate that problem,I just gotta get under her pants but she turns me down and says next time
>My face when

As I sit here with this incredibly angry dick I refuse to jerk off I need to understand: Girls, what's it like having an aroused vagina and why do you feel so damn distant towards sexual activity

>>18492795
I find freckles cute on other people. Sadly they look like shit on my own face.

>>18492830
she was probably on the rag, fool

Do girls really find playboys/fuckboys/assholes attractive? It sounds pretty nonsensical, to get turned on by being used by some random guy just to get his dick wet, and thinks of the number of women he's fucked as some kind of trophy.

>>18491280
I'm a lesbian, but I feel 100% the same, promiscuity, casual sex, just making out with a rando, all pretty gross, give me a relationship where sex is just a bonus or give me death.

>>18492885
Some girls do, some don't. I personally hate these guys. Nothing makes me lose my interest faster. I prefer it if my guy is softer than me because a) it makes it safe for me to open up to him, b) he wouldn't try to undermine me, c) I get to protect him which is something I find really cute.
But I assume that some girls get off on being dominated/on the thrill of being with a bad boy.

Why do women seem so hostile against men lately?

Do you even like us anymore? I don't mean it as a "muh feminism boogeyman" thing, I just mean in general it does seem like especially young females are afraid and reticent of males in general.

>>18492962
What do you mean whether we like you anymore? I don't like males as a concept. I like individual men. These men I treat the same way I treat any people I like. The rest of them I treat like strangers because that's who they are. Don't be too surprised if a girl is reserved when she doesn't know a guy.

>>18492962
What >>18492982 said. I have no problems with the men in my life. I get along with my brother and my dad. I love my boyfriend to pieces. I'm basically an emotional tampon for a friend who has depression. I'm hostile towards men I don't know on 4chan just like men are hostile towards women they don't know on 4chan.

Guys: I was at dinner tonight with some friends. In the middle of dinner, a guy friend, out of nowhere, basically told me that he's always thought I'm adorable. That wasn't normal, was it?

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>>18491797
>adding insult (you meant salt?) to injury
You cant possibly harm boys ego any more than refusing to date him. By doing that you tell them their dna isnt worth your time and effort.

By blocking them you spare them from sending you insults, asking additionals why questions and generally prolonging that emotional pain. The cut has to be done as fast and as clean as possible to minimize pain.

>>18491932
Sure way dude. I hope you enjoy being teen and pregnant >>18491400

>>18492073
Ask her on date. Dinner finished with walk in park. Attemp to kiss and handhold her. ASK HER ON DATE.

>>18492107
There are two scenarios:
>You have few hours free and feel horny:
then you kidnap your girl into bedroom and before you fuck her brains out, you cuddle her to death in heavy petting session. Girls love the foreplay. You do it for her (and i like turning her on too).
>you are horny and there is no time
You ask for a quickie. Sometimes your girl want it fast too. Or her V hurts, bleeds and stinks. So she either gives you something else or takes the D under 5 minutes.

If your bf treats you badly in sex, it is time for you to assert dominance and tell him. Maybe he just takes you for granted and stopped trying. Remind him how to be good lover. You have to work on your relationship all the time.

>>18492262
Hello.

>>18492383
Ignore them.
>prepare for break up when her puberty finally ends and she matures around ~23

>>18492552
Girls are made from glass. You slap them anywhere but on their butt at bedroom and the relationship will end fast.

>>18492588
You are in friendzone from the start. Ghost her and find real gf.

>>18492611
They want you to look at their ass and if you are attractive, they want you to ask them on date.
>it doesnt matter they already have 3 bfs. They feed off from your attention.

>>18492747
No. But since you have to ask, you are super insecure about social construct. Just try online dating already!

>>18492795
Neutral. Will date pic related.

>>18492982
>>18492999
I guess I mean it as a more generalized contempt/fear. Maybe it's because of what I browse but I just read so much stuff talking about men in broad strokes are very rarely is it good. It's a bit disheartening. You know stuff like how raping is in the male nature, how we oppress women without meaning to, how we can't truly love beyond a sexual way, etc

>>18493002
>normal
It is very normal for boys to lust after girls who on the other hand see them as asexual monks who would never be able to get boner or want their pussy.

Just look at this post >>18492588
He is probably as that friend of yours.

And now the real question: do you want to date him or is he in the friendzone for good?

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>>18492962

If you've ever picked up a phone of a girl who is on a dating site and read her messages you'd know why they're hostile.

Tons of people who can't be with them or tons of people who just want them for sex. They get it way too many times.

>>18493018
So what do you think about the stuff men here post about women? You could make a completely genderbent version of your post and it'd be just as valid.

>>18493022
>It is very normal for boys to lust after girls who on the other hand see them as asexual monks who would never be able to get boner or want their pussy.
I know that and I'm not disputing that. I'm asking whether it's normal for a guy to just blurt it out like that in front of other people, out of nowhere and unprompted.

>And now the real question: do you want to date him or is he in the friendzone for good?
Well I have a boyfriend, he knows it and my boyfriend was sitting there right next to me so yeah...

>>18493018
Well, it is fairly normal to be more cautious around men from the female perspective. You can look at it however you want, but the truth is that you are stronger in general and it isn't unreasonable to want to avoid risks. The 'men are rapists' rants are just venting, people obviously don't mean all men. I advise not to take these things seriously just as I don't take seriously endless 4chan rants about how women are vapid sluts.

>>18493028
Next time this happens, challenge him and your bf to a duel and state you will date the winner.

Pick the activity depending on if you want to date your bf or the new guy. You know them both so you know who is better at what.

>definitely not normal
You were all probably drunken or you think that being praised from boy means automatical invite to date. If he is single, just help him to find his own gf.

>>18492552
Fuck no.

>>18493025
I don't take stuff in 4chan very seriously because it's stuff you don't really see in the mainstream.
But the other kind of stuff is something I do see in twitter, the news, tv, etcétera.

>>18492171
I would say no to any stranger who asks me out.

>>18493047
I see comments and sentiments like "don't get married because your wife will divorce you and take half your shit" all the time in the mainstream. It's not as extreme as what you read here, but there are still misogynistic ideas out there in the mainstream. You're either desensitised to them, or just don't pick up on them because they're not against you.

>>18492595
>>18493052
Please rate this guide for /g/entelmans. How well would that work?
>>>/g/61246684

>>18491797
>Why is this? Won't guys take that as adding insult to injury?
Of course they will. You're talking to an edgelord.

>>18493058
Don't take advice from girls. See this post >>18492596
It works if you're attractive.

>>18493055
I think you have a point there but I still feel like there is a more generalized anti men sentiment

>>18493055
>divorce is fucking suicidal for a male
>telling people not to divorce is mysoginistic

If I told you to not invest on a company that has a 80% chance of folding and a 20% chance of offering you a 10% profit it's just logical advice
This shit is the same

>>18493018
I wouldn't consider those people to be speaking for women as a whole for a second, but at the same time you're right - the relationship between genders has become frighteningly strained over the past few years. Simply put, women (and by women I don't mean all women, I mean cunts) are hostile towards men because they've been taught that way. Third-wave feminism is particularly guilty of perpetuating this problem, this idea that all men are evil and inhuman and worth no more than the dirt on your shoes, and that's the "in" school of thought in academia now. Those teachings spread like wildfire through impressionable people, and now you have girls who hate guys for existing and guys who are terrified of even talking to girls anymore. It's a wretched cycle and I'm honestly not sure what we can do to fix it.

>>18493055
Not him, but I'd argue that there are just as many misandrist ideas in the mainstream, if not more. Moreover, they tend to get glossed over or outright spun as comedic.

>>18493055
>"don't get married because your wife will divorce you and take half your shit" all the time in the mainstream. It's not as extreme as what you read here, but there are still misogynistic ideas out there in the mainstream.
You can call it misogynistic but it's still something to consider. Women initiate the majority of divorces and you will in fact lose half your shit. I would never suggest a man gets married unless they've been together for much longer than the norm because of the unique risk he faces.

I love women but they don't love me back

What do

>>18493128
What do they not love about you?

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>>18492795
Don't really like them on other people bc I'm Irish and thus freckly af (Spacek-tier), don't want to date someone who looks like me (probs a Darwinian reaction).

>>18493055
>warning men about what could happen is misogynistic

More proof that feminism is about increasing female sexual choice while maximally decreasing male sexual choice.

Tried asking yesterday but I only got answers that didn't address the actual questions, and from men to boot. So, once again...

Ladies. I'm on several roads to self improvement that have already paid dividends, but I recognize why at this point in my life socially speaking I am not super desirable on the dating scale. I'm not trying to talk down on myself, I know I look alright and I'm a fair even-headed dude, but I'd be lying to myself if I couldn't be objective.

But when you've been single for around two years, and due to life throwing all that bullshit it does to everyone so often you're 33 and nearly friendless, when your brain inserts the memory of a comforting arm across your chest just because, well, it's hard.

I know I need to focus on myself. How do I cope with these feelings? Should I have to? We talk nowadays about how everybody deserves love, but how do you even approach laying out your situation? Like, I can't hide that I'm mostly garbage. I can't fake that. But I also know everything I'm trying to do to improve would be a whole lot easier with a friendly face.

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>>18493086
>how to fix it
Easily. Idiots will go full mgtow or buy a cat and the rest will ignore bullshit, have children and generally not go extincts.

Remember that you only hear the loudest minority. Majority of people mind their own bussiness and doesnt care about what extremists claim. The survival of the fittest is still on. If you need to be a little dense / dumb / optimistic to marry and have children, guess how will future generations look like? The problem will solve itself.

We should just consider implementing pic related to ease up others suffering in the process.

>>18493115
>lose half your shit
Try marrying girl who is mire rich than you. Problem solved. When spliting shit in half, you will be the winner.

>>18493160
Maybe if you were a little more specific about your broken life we could give you some points.

This way we can only give you shit advice like
>you have to love yourself before you can lose somebody else

>>18493168
I don't need help with my life. I've got that on lock.

My question is, how do I deal with what remembering compassion feels like, or is it actually okay to seek it out even though I'm a pleb, and if so how?

>>18493168
>Try marrying girl who is mire rich than you. Problem solved.
>Let's address this real problem with a bullshit solution
It's not like I'm opposed to dating a well off woman but I'm not trying to gain anything from divorce, rather I'd prefer it if shit was left exactly where it was when we started discounting any children involved.

But no, most women will instead whine about how prenups mean you apparently expect the marriage to fail. It's not misogynistic to point this bullshit out.

>>18493160
>I'm trying to do to improve would be a whole lot easier with a friendly face.
Would it really, or would it be like methadone for your addiction to self loathing? You can't just outsource your self-esteem to somebody else.

Your aim shouldn't be to have somebody to put plasters of affection on the gunshot wound of your self image, but rather to heal on your own so you and a future gf can shower each other with affection just because.

>>18493204
>shit was left exactly where it was
Dude, divorce is the last option. If she is half decent and so you are and both are willing to look for compromises, the divorce wont simply happen.

The hard truth is that some people are just so dumb they cant even realize how their behavior will hurt their partner. So the neglect happens, taking him/her for granted or simply cheating.

And really, you marry because you want children. And once the child is spawned, you can NEVER go away from each other no matter what even after divorce. If you are decent dad, you would never leave your children and same case for her. Why do you see money as something you live for? Money are just resource you use to achieve some goals in your life.

Stop being so scared of losing money and date some girl already. If you will be half decent husband, the divorce wont happen.

>prenup
Prenup is useless. As one divorce laywer anon told, if the divorce happens, just sit down with her, realize that you both had a fun ride, someone fucked up and make a deal. In all cases the woman wont want more than half the shit, sometimes even less if you are willing to not accuse her of being whore.

He told that the expensive life wrecking divorce happens only when husband is trying to prove how big whore his wife was (and nobody, not even judge gives a fuck about it). That if you are civil about it, it wont be unfair and dont even have to pay laywer.

So what it will be? Dying alone? Prostitutes? Qtie waifu with low risk of divorce?
>take note that divorce statistic are going down and if you ignore people who remarry, it is quite low

>>18493132
I don't know.

I used to think it was my physique but it ended up not being that.

>>18493209
There's definitely an element of truth to what you're saying, and I can respect that and the possibility that that would be the case, that it would only stop me from moving forward at the rate I need to.

But as I said before, it's not a case of self-loathing. I've had enough relationships to know that the human that I am is an attractive proposition, but I'm also basically on the bottom rung of the ladder, societally speaking. There was this girl I hooked up with who through her own admission was a bitch, but told me "Y'know, this bachelor shit, it's not really cool anymore in your 30's.". No shit. As though I was doing it on purpose.

I know people CAN make connections down at the bottom, but I'm not stupid enough to think I'm in remotely high demand. But when I consider that the end of whatever road it is I'm on is still years ahead, looking back at the ones I've already been alone don't make the ones coming up seem very pleasant, and that's before whatever kinks the world decides to throw into those.

I'm sorry to keep going on, but my point is humans are social animals who need each other for various reasons, and life is random. Like last year, within a week of each other, both my parents nearly died. They're both fine now mostly, but being disconnected from friends, family, and single, that's a tough road to go alone. I'm not trying to have a pity party or anything, I got through it. But life is difficult, and it doesn't seem unreasonable to want, as the song puts it, somebody to lean on.

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Girls

would it be weird if a new bf would like to start with "sex" with fingering and fondling breasts first?

>>18493248
Are you asking if foreplay is weird...?

>>18493254
no, only doing this as the whole sex act for a little time.

im not very comfortable with being naked atm, i would like to lose some kilos first.

>>18493255
If she's with you, she doesn't mind what you look like. If your clothes can disguise your weight, your weight isn't an issue. If your clothes can't disguise your weight, it's not like it's going to be a surprise to her once you're naked.

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>>18493236
>Dude, divorce is the last option. If she is half decent and so you are and both are willing to look for compromises, the divorce wont simply happen.
Idealistic notions at best. Sometimes people become selfish, in which case compromises are off the table. You can only control yourself.

>And once the child is spawned, you can NEVER go away from each other no matter what even after divorce. If you are decent dad, you would never leave your children and same case for her.
Being divorced does not mean you cannot be a father, despite what you may believe
I think I have seen divorces with a degree of respect. They are however a minority. I explicitly stated discounting children for a reason anyways, of course something like child support if a parent has primary custody is entirely reasonable.

>In all cases the woman wont want more than half the shit, sometimes even less if you are willing to not accuse her of being whore.
Definitely false. Robin Williams suicide was in no doubt encouraged by the absurd alimony payments. Brendan Fraser is also a notorious example. Besides, it's also bullshit that you're suggesting I dance around emotional eggshells, especially if you're in a no fault state where she may very well be a cheating whore. To call her such would simply be stating a fact.

>So what it will be?
To quote myself
>I would never suggest a man gets married unless they've been together for much longer than the norm

I never said marriage is entirely off the table. I am saying it comes with a set of risks people try to downplay if anything. That pointing it out is not misogynistic. Actually hating women is misogynistic, and this is a large part of why the term has lost much of its power.

>>18493260
i still dont feel comfortable

would it be to weird if I only wanna do that first? think i can make her cum with rubbing/fingering her.

Femanons,

I recently got in touch again with this girl who I knew for a long time in middle school-high school. We weren't super close back then but have hit it off really well now.

She's a little older than me (~3ish years) and we started hanging out again and we reconnected by matching on tinder about a month ago.

So I kind of had a crush of her back then, and after hanging out with her now several times it seems like I still do.

What's the best way to handle this? Should I just ask her to go out with me some time? I

Besides the fact that we matched on tinder, we snapchat a ton and seem to vibe well when we hangout.

What Would be your advice for how to proceed?

Girls:

There's someone I really like. We've been friends for a good 5 months now. We flirt around alot and have a good rapport. But she has a bf. I've asked her about why she's like that when she has a bf and she says he does it too to other people. They have a very weird, almost bestie like relationship that looks platonic and more based around comfort/familiarity than attraction. They've been dating a year.

Anyway. I really like her, and I want to tell her that. I can't stop thinking about her sometimes when I don't see her for days. I wanna tell her how I feel and see what happens, but I'm afraid I risk our friendship if I do, like she'll see me differently and our fun times will be over.

>>18493274
A couple of times I'd be okay with. Any more than that and I'd think it was weird. Just fuck with the lights off or whatever

>>18492382
japaneseanon at live.com
I hope you're still lurking.

>>18492365
What do you mean?

>>18492425
Thanks for the warning, femanon.
I am not that innocent, though.

>>18493002
Imagining it, it sounds like a very awkward thing to do infront of other people. Sometimes guys do weird shit like that and think stuff like "I need to be more forward, I'm just sitting here" Or others tell them they need to just be spontaneous and that girls like that. Or that girls like a guy who isn't afraid to be embarrassed, etc. Some guys take that shit to heart and try it out in a very ham-fisted sort of way. It's kinda like practice. Not sure if that's the kinda guy he is, but I mean, I've done similar with that line of thinking when I was younger (abit more tactfully than that I'll have you know).

At any rate, it's pretty obvious he likes you I'd say. Sometimes guys hold it in and it just needs to be let out of them. Maybe it was hammering away in his head and he just -had- to say it to you.

>>18493286
Just cuck the guy. I don't see what the big deal is here

>>18491095
steroids worked for him too
>>18491710
that pic. whoever made it, do they not know guys can fuck guys?

How do I find out more about a girl before showing interest in her? Like how old she is, (I don't want to hit on a 17 year old that looks 19 or something,) whether she's in a relationship already, etc.

I don't want to be a creeper and open with shit like that, but I don't want to pussyfoot around and try to hang out with someone just to find out they're taken.

I don't understand why i am so invisible to girls

>coworker wants somebody to try out new shirts that just arrived
>they're a bit tight on the arms
>oh such a same y isn't here because he has pretty big arms
>I also have pretty big arms (been going to the gym for a few years now)
>tell her maybe I could serve too
>oh wow anon you're pretty big

We've shared an office for 7 months now...

>>18493312
The thing is that the average woman gets more male attention than the average man, and is not expected to take the initiative. What's more, even when they're single there's a lot of subliminal messages telling women to keep to themselves and not indulge men.

So an average woman isn't going to automatically check a man out just because they work together. She will if he is strikingly handsome, or coworkers say he's cute, or he does something that catches her attention and interest. But if you essentially just exist there, no. That's not a personal failure, just a difference between men and women where men are expected to be on the hunt and approach women and women are expected to be passive and not too flirty/attention-seeking.

>>18493309
Just through talking. It should come up when discussing what you are both doing with your life Maybe not her literal age, but if you know she's hoping to have her bachelor's degree next year you know she's not seventeen.

As for whether she's in a relationship, it might come off - either because some girls naturally talk about their lover a lot, or because she's actively trying to give you a heads up - but otherwise just take the plunge and leave it to her to tell you she's taken.

>>18493267
>dance around
I cant shake feelings you see girls as objects you own and not person with feelings and such. And even then, if you see marriage nothing more as transaction, the divorce is still always as last resort. You luve together, cuddle, have sex, pay shared rent (or live in your own), cooking wverything is cheaper. You always have somebody to talk to and if you are clever, you give each other enough space to not get
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabin_fever

Stop seeing girls as potentional money hunger creatures. With a bit of luck she will be ok if you know how to treat her well (like never trying to win argument by logic is a good start).

And if you will live together for 1+ year, you will see her bad side eventually and decide yourself if the struggle is worth it (unless you have that canada tier common law where even living together is considered marriage tier).

Using extreme cases as example is silly. I highly doubt that williams wasnt mentally ill.

>>18493277
Ask her on date and buy condoms. Try kissing and handholding. Asking for netflix and chill works too. Stop overthinking problems and date the bitch!

>>18493286
>dating girl who has 0 problems cheating physically/emotionally her bf
This is the type of people who divorce. Dont be stupid anon. Find real gf or prepare for being cucked.

>>18493302
Being prison gay works only at prison. And gays are less than 5% so the pic still works for majority of boys :-D

>>18493309
TALK TO HER. By any means. Before you ask her on date, ask for her phone number. If she refuses to give it to you, save yourself a trouble. If she gives it to you, the date will happen.

>>18493312
>lusting after coworkers
How single you are? How long? Try online dating or social events you hate. Dont shit where you eat.

>>18493286
Stay out of it. Literally nothing good can come of you telling her this. Even in the best case scenario where she'd dump her boyfriend for you straight away, it's a red flag that apparently she wanted to keep her safety net until she was sure that you wanted her, despite strong feelings for you. Worse options are her cheating on her boyfriend or just a more extreme form of a grey area relationship than you already have.

Also enjoy it while it lasts but you will lose her if you don't wind up dating. These kind of half-friendships, half-courtship are a threat to relationships and if they don't mature into a romance dynamic they are baggage people sooner or later want to free themselves of. So just keep that in mind and try to mentally prepare yourself.

>>18493248
>>18493255
I fucking love it when I can be intimate with a man without it every single time ending in penetration.

But I have no more interest in being with a man who won't let me see and feel his naked body than you do to date a girl that won't show herself to you, worse, will deprive you of feeling her heartbeat against yours.

Being chubby (or even kind of fat) isn't a dealbreaker. Not wanting real intimacy because you're too insecure is.

>>18492795
Love them.

>>18493327
>>18493334
>talking
I honestly don't have the energy to start some new friendship if it won't lead to a romantic relationship.

I've got friends, I just don't want to miss out on a love life before I'm too old. I'll put all the energy in the world to someone that I might be able to be with, not if they're already in a relationship with someone else that I'd have to get to know by proxy and probably be jealous of anyway.

I'm a fatty but kinda stopped being overly-sensitive about my weight a long time ago, however I'm also really hairy.

How much of a turn-off is that to average girls? Will the belly+bodyhair and bush be a deal breaker with most women?

Girls,

Are there any women out there that genuinely want a long term relationship or am I fooling myself (at around age 20-24)? I want to feel "fulfilled" when with a girl, that for the most part, sex is great and all but I just want to be with someone, I don't get tired of people or don't look to "trade up" but at the same time I have a feeling like I'm living this retarded fantasy where women want the same as I do and each one I date will be there forever if she likes me enough after the first few dates.

I'm not into casual sex, but is that what relationships are today? is that all there is? I kinda feel like giving up on dating knowing that 99 out of 100 girls will just be there for a few months if that even, and then leave and I'll just have to try again and again and hope for the best. Might as well be alone, at least I won't have to keep enduring the break ups/rejections, but if they're worth it, I might not give up, I just got thinking about it today and I felt very discouraged

>>18493345
There's A LOT in between being friends and talking to someone. If you really can't stand to invest time and energy into someone who might not be a dating option, there's no other choice than to just go on the date and potentially find out there that you think she's too young or whatever other incompatibility.

>>18493334
>>18493322
I don't "lust" after her, it's just that fuck dude I'm right there and I'm pretty fit, everyone can see that

I guess this is the manlet curse

>>18493349
Men with a belly and lots of bodyhair are my favorite kind. It won't be an express upside to most women, or an outright downside, but you're a lot more than your looks. It always depends on the full package, whether you make her laugh, feel at ease, can talk for hours, bring out a side of her she enjoys and so on. The dynamic you have with someone else is ultimately always more impactful than whatever qualities you inherently have. The idea of a romance relationship is that what you have together is more than the sum of parts. Try to accept that as long as you look like this you won't fit the conventional idea of a hot guy and focus on the girls into YOU.

>>18493352
Thirsty ass woman here who has not had sex in a long time despite loving it because I'm not looking for sex, I'm looking for the real deal. And I'm not looking to get together with someone for the sake of not being alone, I want to meet someone who moves me and vice versa.

No, you are not alone.

>>18493334
>I cant shake feelings you see girls as objects you own and not person with feelings and such
Whatever you want to believe lad

>the divorce is still always as last resort.
Never said it wasn't. But as I said, you can only control yourself. What happens if a partner becomes a bit of a selfish cunt? You can't make them cut it out. Yes, talking things out is absolutely critical but both parties have to be willing to go there. Not really a gendered issue either.

>(like never trying to win argument by logic is a good start).
This is not really making me pause and think "oh boy, marriage sounds great" you know. You accuse me of not thinking women are fleshed out people yet this sort of suggests women are all histrionic ninnies. Regardless I'd rather be single than be with such a woman anyways.

>Using extreme cases as example is silly. I highly doubt that williams wasnt mentally ill.
Brendan spends 50k/month. You used a blanket statement, I used extreme examples where the women are leeching men for the vast majority of their income. Your original claim is blatantly false, women often try to grasp for more than half of your wealth simply because people are selfish, all to varying degrees.

The fact is divorces are often ugly affairs, and during which even decent people can start rationalizing some shitty actions. Dress it up all you want but that's a fact of life. Which is why I would not suggest anyone walk into marriage if they had not been living together for many years.

>>18493349
Guys who are fat and can demonstrate some strength aren't at nearly as much of a disadvantage as say, a girl who's overweight. No, not a lot of girls are expressly looking for what you're offering, but it could work, if you've got the seduction skills and the confidence to make it work. Limitations to this include fat distribution that makes you pear shaped or give you wide hips.

>>18493362
I'm very confident in my personality, I never worry about that. I'm a nerdy guy with some freaky cartoon porn kinks and some very un-masculine fears of bugs and stuff but other than that I think I'm a reasonable, enjoyable person.

The reason I worry about my appearance is really my living situation. I'm very much a starving artist and still live at home instead of having a job and my own place, so that coupled with my looks don't make me very desirable. I'm in my mid-20's now and I'm worried that my personality and interests couldn't possibly make me desirable enough for a real relationship.

>>18493373
I can't talk for everyone but to me, the way you talk about it is just not how it works. Like I'm going to evaluate a guy and if he has too many downsides, tough shit, let's take a look at someone else.
It is rare for me to find someone I truly connect with. I go on a lot of dates with guys I can have okay conversations with, do a half-hearted attempt to show interest in my hobbies, treat me with respect etc. And that's enough for me to have a good time, but it's not going to make me want to get together with anyone. If I fall for someone it's because there's something familiar about them, because they understand me much better/more implicitly than others, because our dynamic sparks things in me I don't usually feel, because they feel passionate about the things I feel passionate about... basically because I feel much more on the same wavelength with them than I normally do with people.

And if that's the case, I will bend over backwards to see if I can live with whatever quirks they have (who doesn't have theirs?). Because it's a rare and valuable thing to feel a true connection with someone.

>>18493345
If you cant be assed to talk to somebody for 5 minutes to see if they are interested in dating you, you dont have time for 4 hours dates where you dont want to leave the qtie alone and later 1+ hour session filled with cuddling, foreplay finished with 2 minutes of violent humping.

Consider hiring escorts.

>>18493349
What is bear mode? They will call you daddy and you will have to spank them a lot.
>>>/fit/
>>18493373
>starving artist
You have bigger problems than dating atm. Try to first make enough money to not worry about being homeless. How do you plan paying for dinner on dates?

>>18493352
Try girls out of school / uni aged 23+.
We have thread
>i am girl and every boy just wants to sex, where are the boys who wants more
all the time. Keep looking. Change your hunting grounds.

>>18493361
Sure, everybody here asking about
>that girl from X
doesnt want to have sex or relationship at all. Stop lying to yourself. Your life will be easier afterwards.

>>18493371
Dude, you need a friend to talk to about this while being drunk. Do you even do friends?

You are right, marriage is risk. But not taking any risks in your life would turn you into sad lonely neet hidden in his basement.

>>18493335
damn, that's solid advice. You're right this is baggage for me. I don't want out but I do see the writing on the wall. Thanks for the advice.

To her defense, I don't know if she really was keeping a safety net, or if she's just in a weird relationship. I've never been more confused, lol.

I've got some mental prepping to do.

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>>18493382
>Dude, you need a friend to talk to about this while being drunk. Do you even do friends?
Is this what passes as an argument to you?

> But not taking any risks in your life would turn you into sad lonely neet hidden in his basement.
Again, I never said marriage should be off the table you idiot.

>>18493368
would you say most girls look for that or a very small majority? I know its hard to tell, like you can't read other girl's minds but I know a lot of guys and most of them seem to be having that fuck boy mentality which I don't share with them, I think I only met one guy like me in my life that wants more or less what I want.

I just don't think I've the energy to push myself into dating dozens of girls knowing it won't last and maybe one of them, somewhere down the line will share my mentality.

I think that what I'm looking for, and whats actually out there makes my chances super slim. The last girl I dated was great, we were like 99% compatible, except she wasn't looking for a relationship at the moment and I was. Knowing how great she was (and how rare) makes it hard to find another one like her, especially one that will actually want a relationship, its hard to tell what girls want, she genuinely seemed like the relationship type

>>18493382
>Try girls out of school / uni aged 23+.
Thats what I do, I don't want to date 18 year olds because they seem like kids to me, not the right mentality, like they just want to have fun, its not for me. I'm going to college soon and was hoping to find someone there, you think chances of finding someone like that there are higher than lets say, a job environment or post college environments (post college working places lets say)?

>>18493389
You're welcome. I did not mean to imply that she currently sees him as a safety net. Too little info. They could be two people playing the game of keeping their options over because the relationship they have together is too unstable/unsafe. But it could also be two people with very little jealousy and relaxed boundaries. I was just trying to point out that if she felt strongly enough about you for there to be real potential, and she was a quality person, she would've already ended the relationship and pursued you. So essentially anything you can set in motion by telling her this when she hasn't, is something you don't actually want to deal with.

It's also for the best for you that she doesn't stay around forever. It is easy to hold on to feelings for someone you never got to know on a daily basis and see all the imperfections of. You don't want the ideal of her to get in your way of finding an actual fulfilling relationship with someone who just wants to be with you, no ifs or buts.
Doesn't mean you cannot get anything out of the tension and flirting and testing limits. It's part of being young, it's part of life, shit's messy. But in the end by far most people will sacrifice these grey area things in order to chase something more complete so try to not become dependent on her, actively remind yourself of other cute/promising girls existing, keep investing in yourself outside of your bond with her and so on.

Good luck!

>>18493390
That wasnt argument, that was me giving up. You won.
>i am just not entirely sure what exactly have you won
Marriage probably isnt for you. If you cant trust your significant other, you cant marry them in the first place.
>inb4 trusting others is stupid
Yeah, having gf is too risky for you.

Cheers!

>>18493392
Going to college is about getting degree. You can try to date there, but that is not the main goal.
I know few couples who get to know each other at uni, but most of the time you moves states after finishing it and the ldr never works.

Try with getting friends there first. They will stick to you for the rest of your life. Also they will help you to get a job. It is called networking. Getting gf is just a bonus. Just talk to girls there and dont try to activelly avoid casual sex. Uni is just building full of horny teens who are super horny all the time.

Take is casually and see for yourself. Always start with
>can i sit next to you?
>what do you study?
>what are you doing tonight?

>>18493392
I can honestly say that my friends are divided between a third girls who are not actively looking for a relationship but like the idea and are open to it happening, and two thirds girls who are very seriously dating someone or very seriously looking for a long term relationship. I am not trying to pass that off as extremely representative because obviously I have not chosen my friends randomly - I am the same way in friendship (go big or go home) so these are already all girls who are committed to their friends and not looking to update their social circle every few years. So I don't doubt that there's many girls who are much more casual, but those who think hooking up or dating around is noise absolutely exist.

There is indeed not rock solid way to know. Having said that I think paying attention to how much focused on the long term someone is in other aspects is a good sign. Look for girls who maintain friendships throughout the years and aren't constantly trying new hobbies/educations only to get bored of it. And of course being vocal about looking for something steady and not wanting to get physical right away are also good signs. Sorry to hear about the great girl though, those are absolutely hard to let go of. Try to see it as a good sign that now you know for a fact that people as awesome as her exist.

I'm a 26 year old man who doesn't own a vehicle and can't drive. In fact I'm terrified of driving. I'd rather simply walk everywhere.

If I want to be in a relationship with a girl and need her to do the driving, is there a tactful way to spill the beans like that? Will it sound pathetic if we agree to hang out and I blurt out "OKAY COOL BUT I DON'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE SO YOU GOTTA PICK ME UP." like I'm 14 and needing a ride from her parents or something.

>>18493424
Hmm this is a tricky one for me because I live in a place where public transport is the more obvious choice so it would not really come up naturally to begin with whether or not you can drive.

Are you in some place where this is not an option? If so I would either try to be flirty/sassy about it and joke that you're not easy and you're only coming out with her if she does the proper thing and picks you up and drops you off.
Or just bite the bullet and tell her you'd love to hang out but you don't have your permit so she'd have to come get you. I would pick this option if you don't really have a lot of chemistry yet.

>>18493439
>Are you in some place where this is not an option?
No but I'm not very familiar with it. I don't know shit about bus routes.

Thanks for the advice, though.

>>18493424
What country are you from?
Like >>18493439 this is normal where I am, I'm the same age as you and I'm literally the only one of my friends to have a license. And I share my mum's car.

Maybe pretend it's for environmental reasons and insist on public transport? Or say you have poor eyesight so you can't legally drive.

>>18493456
No problem! Yeah I think at least having the option to get there on your own account will make it less big a deal to say that you can't drive...

Is it a bad idea to ask someone to go on a date in the morning or afternoon rather than at night?

>>18491427
I find this humorous. So I'm not a male ginger but I am a male with a lot of freckles on my face, neck, arms and legs. Ironically there are only a few on my butt and none on my pecker. Seems the underwear area is off limits for me. Hahaha.

>>18493461
Morning comes across as a bit eccentric/ business like depending on your circs.
Getting coffee in the afternoon is normal though.

>>18493461
No, just has a slightly different vibe. More getting coffee and getting to know each other (for a potential relationship) than outright flirting, drinking, dancing, potentially hooking up etc.

Any men here in a successful relationship with a woman who's made the first move?

>>18492795
I'm a freckled male. I don't really think above it one way or the other. Not a turn off or on.

>>18493458
I'm in the US but I live in the midwest. It's not like NY where things are so dense that not having a license or vehicle is more normal, but it's not like I live in a literal nowhere Napolean Dynamite-like place either.

>>18493409
>I know few couples who get to know each other at uni, but most of the time you moves states after finishing it and the ldr never works.
I live in a fairly small country so if anything, neither of us would be a world apart, most likely a train/bus journey away, besides, if we end up getting the same degree then we might move to an area close by, like I said, a fairly small country so college work places are limited to the bigger cities which this country hasn't got much of so I wouldn't worry about travel. Its just that I'm not sure what the college mentality is like, I've met people in college before and usually everyone tried to get into relationships since week 1 and half of my friends are still in those relationships after 2-3 years, but maybe they just got lucky, not many girls in the course they did so fairly limited options and I feel like they don't really want to be together, they just are because of the lack of other options so something is better than nothing.

>Just talk to girls there and dont try to activelly avoid casual sex.
I wouldn't avoid it but there again, I don't want to be known as this guy in class that goes from girl to girl, fucking them and moving on, makes other girls very skeptical and we all have those people in our class that the more "committed" girls try to avoid, I don't want to come off as a fuck boy if you get me?

>>18493414
Yea I'm into like minded people myself, so if anything that should make it a bit easier to figure out what the girl I'm into is looking for. I usually surround myself with people that are there to stay.

>Look for girls who maintain friendships throughout the years and aren't constantly trying new hobbies/educations only to get bored of it.
thats solid advice there to be honest, I think thats what bothered me about the girl I dated, she was great but surprisingly "childish" in a sense, she didn't know what she wanted and did things out of necessity and not because she wanted to

Is your significant other basically a "you" of the opposite gender? If you don't have one, are you specifically looking for an opposite gender you? or is that impossible to find?

>>18493476
>come off as fuck boy
You cant be fuck boy if you stay with first girl who will ride your dick. Simple as that. You have severe case of overthinking problems.

>>18493479
No, he isn't. He is similar in certain aspects (shared hobbies, intellectual, chatty etc. etc), but completely different in others. He's much nicer than me, for example, and more sensitive. I wouldn't want to date my complete copy, to be honest. We would argue all the time. Plus, my bf's niceness brings out good things in me.

>>18493469
I made the first move to kiss but my now wife as a gf made the first move for sex. One night while making out, she started rubbing my dick, undid my pants and gave me a blow job. Not what I was expecting however it made the rest of the relationship real easy as far as sec goes. That opened the door and I didn't have to wonder when to make a move. We ended up married and still are today.

If a girl never texts me first does it mean she doesn't like me?

>>18493479
My ex wasn't. We had things in common but not to the point where it would be striking to other people.

I am not looking for a male version of myself. I like myself just fine, but part of the reason I want to connect with others is because they show me another perspective on life, have lived their own past etc. I am not looking to get as close as possible to dating myself by any means. Also practically speaking I don't think I could learn much from or to someone who is like a clone to me.

>>18493522
It's a bad sign but nothing conclusive. Some girls are just extremely used to it or are way too afraid of coming across as clingy.

>>18493527
So texting IS that important

>>18493532
Like any other kind of communication it is always a projection of the kind of dynamic you have to her. But if real life vibes or dynamic conflict with texting, always prioritize the feeling you get from her actions irl.

>>18493510
What do you generally think of a woman asking a man out or asking for his number?

>>18493538
She is eager and down to fuck easily.

>>18493548
Would you be put off by a girl you're initially attracted to because she started chasing after you by asking you out?

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Your boyfriend loves to travel. You and him have gone on a few nice trips. But it's hard for you to save the money and to get time off from work to travel a lot. He however has the time and money and wants to keep doing trips. How would you feel if he goes on a bunch of trips solo or with friends, without you?

>>18493577
In theory, fine. It's his money and you don't get together with someone to deprive them of enjoying their life.

In practice though, it would depend on some factors. If it was completely normal for you to be away for a month, that would be disappointing. I would be uneasy with you taking other women on intense trips where you will be in many bonding/intimate situations together. If I felt like you were enjoying your life much more while traveling with your friends than while being at home with me, that would make me uncomfortable. You get the idea, I guess. Completely normal that you wish to make the most of your money and your interest but it depends on how you go about it.

>>18493577
Well, I'd be a bit sad, but I wouldn't hold it against him. I would want to stay in touch, though. Send me photos and cutesy messages and shit.

>>18493577
I wouldn't mind if it was every now and again, but it'd probably start to grate after a while if he spent all his time traveling while I couldn't. I'm genuinely not trying to sound like an asshole, it's just that it doesn't seem like much of a relationship if one party is constantly away from the other.

>>18493582

>I would be uneasy with you taking other women on intense trips where you will be in many bonding/intimate situations together

I really hate how the first thing everything things of with traveling is sex. I travel a lot, I've been to many different countries. Yet I've never had sex on a single trip. I've had opprotunties, but I never took them. I just got back from a trip abroad last week, and I had a opportunity with a QT 3.14 I met. But I didn't do anything, and I'm single! I don't travel for women. I travel for sights, food, and history

*first thing everyone thinks of

>>18493598
I wasn't thinking about hooking up with local women or actively seeking out sex. I'm talking about traveling with a female companion where you will spend lots of time together, talk about things you don't usually get to talk about with people because of all the free time, have new experiences together, sleep closely together and so on. Hell, even if you wouldn't cheat I guess I'm too territorial to like the idea of a man I am dating going through all those impactful events not just without me, but with another woman by his side to witness it with him.

>>18493611

Well to be fair I never did say I'd travel with another woman. On this last trip, I spent 3 days hanging out with a local French QT 3.14, and i never made a move. I wanted to keep things platonic, and I like said, I'm single.

Realistically, if I traveled without a girlfriend, I'd be going mostly on trips alone, or I'd go with a male friend. I could understand a little worry about if I traveled for 2 full weeks with a female friend. But I wouldn't do that.

I'm sure this question has been asked many many times, but humor me. Where do I find girls as a 20 year old who isn't in school school anymore? I had no trouble dating back in highschool and during my first couple semesters in college, but I dropped out for a really good job and now I'm surrounded by 30-40 year olds for the most part. Outside of work I go to the gym (at 5am before work, so no one is around), go hiking/biking, read at parks/the beach, do amateur machinist work at a friend's shop, and play D&D with some friends for the most part.
Tl;dr I am retarded at meeting girls outside of an educational environment, which is where most people my age are right now

>>18493618
I didn't imply that you did. I was just going over different scenarios that would be an issue for me, even if travel by yourself is not. So all good.

>>18493622
>reading circles
>hiking clubs
>local music events or festivals (particularly stuff like literary or philosophical meet ups where you're expected to mingle a lot)
>courses like photography, cooking, dancing
>friends of friends
>online dating
>volunteering
>athletic events

>>18493628

Ok. I just more worried about a girl getting upset for me taking a bunch of awesome trips without her.

A friend of mine and his wife have been fighting a lot lately because he wants to take trips, but she can't go with him because she can't get the time off work. So she's upset that he'll go without her. He'd go with her if she could, but she can't.

>>18493637
I can understand that this got you thinking but chances are it's not the bare fact that he's going to travel without her but rather a combination of her feeling overworked/like she doesn't have time to herself and her husband living it up without her. Not that it's impossible that it's solely about wanting to come, but I'd wager it isn't. In most long term relationships there is already a subtext of the kind of dynamic you have where these kind of situations unfold into.

>>18491156
Watch the kind of music you listen to. I used to do this (still do to an extent) but I realised that a lot of the music I listened to put women on a pedestal, with the men having to fight for their love, and not the other way round. It influences more than you'd think.

At least I think that's what you were referring to.

>>18491392
She's hella insecure and she's putting it out on you. Maybe her past has a lot to do with it. Maybe you're doing something similar.
You need to be able to be honest in a relationship ad your partner needs to learn to deal with it (although maybe you could learn to use some euphemism or be graceful). This goes both ways.
Honestly, it sounds like she thinks you're not happy with her, but her insecure reactions are exacerbating the situation.
Let her know that if you're actions are a problem, her actions aren't exactly part of the solution. Ask her how you can help each other make this better.

Is it true that a man desires a women more than the other way around but the saying switches when they both orgasm together?

>>18493538
It depends on the circumstances but i wouldn't think anything of it unless she gave me a reason to believe she was a whore or crazy.

Girls, I want to know how many guys my gf has been with, I have been with quite a few and she might ask me back. Should I tell her the truth or should I say a specific number, if so what is a good number?

>>18493555
See this >>18493744

both genders I guess

is it ever acceptable as a manager to make a move on or just ask out a subordinate?

>>18490997
To the ladies.

How to be a good husband?

>>18493731
>in their 20s most men and women want just sex
>its easier for women to get casual sex than men so you could say men are more desperate
>after reaching their 30s most women want a serious relationship while some men still want casual sex but some (less) men also want a serious relationship
>it becomes easier for men who want a serious relationship to get one than it does for women
>women become more desperate

>>18493757
What's the number?

I'd say be honest, but a lot of people are touchy about that sort of thing. I personally never want to know cause ultimately it doesn't matter, but I know that high numbers bother me.

>>18493762
Not if you want to keep your job. Most companies in the US have rules against it since it opens them up for sexual harassment liability or discrimination as soon as the manager plays favorites or the relationship goes sour and the grudge match starts.

>>18493762
Uhm...chances are she might report to the HR.

I'm a little inexperienced in the dating game...

I gave a woman I like my number and asked her to call me if she'd like to go out for a coffee or a something to eat some time soon.

I'm now driving myself a little crazy reading internet blogs and such where there seems to be a broad view that this is seen as a cop out and that many woman think this is shifting the burden of making the first move onto her.

I thought by virtue of me giving her my number for the purposes of going out I was clearly signalling my interest and making the first move with the bonus of not putting her on the spot and letting her gauge her interest.

Femanons, what do you think? And when should I start getting worried about not hearing back? Would you ever deliberately employ a set period of time before calling back even if you were interested?

>>18493770
>>18493771
Does it matter at all if we're already pretty friendly with each other?

Anyway, it's a small company so no HR department and only 2 people above me, but there is a no-dating policy..

>>18493768
This isn't about honesty, a bit more than 50, relationships were 15 of those.

Not counting prostitutes and I am not gonna bring those up of course.

What makes it creepy and uncomfortable if a guy talks to a stranger girl? Is it the setting/envirnoment or the things he says? Assuming he's no Ryan Gosling of course.
In other words, are there only specific situations where it's "okay" to approach and talk to a girl you haven't met, out of nowhere?

>>18493773
If someone is on the fence, they won't bother to call you back so you've lost the chance. If you gently push and call them, they may not want to flat out reject you because some people hate saying no. So they fine it at least a shot expecting nothing. This is where sometimes you're surprised for the better and it works out. So I would not do that on the chance you've given them an easy out.

>>18493773
>this is seen as a cop out and that many woman think this is shifting the burden of making the first move onto her

100% true in my experience. It seems like the good-guy thing to do, no pressure and that, but it's the wrong way to go about it. You really should have asked for hers desu. It might be salvageable if you take charge and actually ask her out, but it might be too late. She's not gonna call you.

>>18493778
>15 """relationships"""

This is the part I would leave out. Many short exclusive relationships is a red flag for many, and for good reason. Outside of that, I see no reason to lie. I have a friend who lost track after around 300, which is around the point I would start considering leaving some out.

>>18493784
Oh well. It's too late now.

The more I read online now the more I am losing heart. I genuinely felt like I was assuming a proactive role in being the initiator here and would have had no problems being bolder in my approach had I known better and now all I'm reading is that it's seen as a weak move.

The waiting game ain't great.

>>18493779
Guy here, I want to say I find two things that I worked on important:

1. Not being afraid of approaching cause it would show in my voice and my face trying to hide it.

2. Don't try to squeeze your way into asking her out, don't ask unnecessary questions and shit for too long, get to the point as fast as possible with some compliments. To be clear I'm not saying don't pretend to ask about stuff to start the conversation.

If it doesn't work it's most likely she isn't into dating strangers or don't meet her stranger's standards. After some rejection you would get rid of the fear and your approach becomes and sounds more natural.

>>18493629
Ooh good ideas. I actually really need to take some cooking classes too. Thanks

>>18493799
Thing is you weren't the initiator at all. You basically told her you would be up for her taking initiative, which is honestly a shitty thing to do and puts more pressure on her than actually asking her out would have.

If you're serious about wanting to take her out you should at least have a go at flipping the tables. I don't know how you'd go about this since I've never been in your particular situation, but maybe just tell her that you wished you'd have been "bolder in your approach"?

>>18493793
Don't know if it helps but i am 28, she's 26.

So what you're saying is 50 isn't a scary number for a guy if I leave the relationships out?

>I've been friends with this girl for almost a year now, and I'm starting to gain feelings for her. But I, being autistic, have already said things like "we're just friends" and "I don't like you that way" to her before.

>She keeps telling me things like "you're the best human being I've ever met" and "I love you so much (in a friend way, I'm assuming)." She's also asked me out before, but I wasn't sure if it was as friends or in a romantic way.

>She also is rarely the one to organize plans or even start text conversations with me. HOWEVER, she's always ecstatic when we're together in person. Maybe she's just a bad texter, I don't know. I'm not sure why I'm sharing this, either. I guess I just want to get all this stuff out of my system.

So what do you think about this (I'll take advice from both females and males)? Am I in the friendzone? Does she even like me as a friend? My anxiety is taking over my life at the moment.

>>18493805
Well, I'll give it a couple days at least to see if she calls and then I'll have one last face-to-face attempt.

>Thing is you weren't the initiator at all.
Well, I am coming to terms with the fact that many people feel this way, but I am failing hard at understanding why.

Did I not take the initiative by giving her my number and letting her know I'd like to go out with her?
I also don't understand how it puts more pressure on her...she has my number and doesn't have to respond if she doesn't want to.

What is it that I am failing to see?

>>18493812
Is it that hard to believe that someone may actually like you? You've put her in the friend zone. Get out of the chicken shit coup and tell her that you have grown to really like her and would like to take the relationship forward if she's interested. Some girls don't want to plan the gatherings and would rather talk than text. Stop giving her the cold shoulder and put your arm around her. I doubt she bites and if she does point her to your ear lobes. That drives me fucking crazy.

Let's assume that the common conception that a bigger component of male attractiveness to women is rooted in status/resources.

Femanons,

Let's say you met a man who is physically attractive and with whom you have good chemistry but he is 27 and has not yet established a career. How much would this put you off? If he had a clear plan and motivation for his career and was in the process of executing that plan, would that go some way to mitigating your concern?

>>18493878
That common conception was from a time when women didn't earn their own money. If that was true all school/college/uni girls would be eith guys much much older than them. This does happen but is not the norm

Physical attractiveness plays a huge role now more than ever.

How to tell apart disgust from attraction when I catch a girl looking down on eye contact guise

>>18493878
Yes, unless this was his third attempt at which point I would believe he was incapable of making a plan and sticking to it.

>>18493883
I don't find them looking down in disgust. Usually I find that they look down in embarrassment and to the side to avoid or if they are disgusted as you say.

>>18493878
I love deadbeats. They're my type.
t. My family is rich so idgaf

>>18493810
I mean, it implies a certain past lifestyle, but the key word is "past". It says nothing about the person you can be right now, for her, and I think most people would be able to get that. The problem I have with high numbers is the "ick" factor, which is silly but real. If she asks, though, she knows that's a possibility and it's on her to get over it imo.

>>18493888
Everybody loves rich people. Everybody is a whore in life just the price they work for is different. You think those young girls are fucking around with Hugh Hefner because he's good looking?

>>18493810
I can tell you, if I was going out with a 26 year old and she said she had slept with 50 people, I would drop her off at home and never see her again. I'm not expecting a virgin but something with lower mileage is definitely a requirement.

>>18493902
May I ask why you feel this way?

>>18492382
Baby, come back!
>>18493294

>>18493661
I listen to Pop, electronic music and alt. rock.
Backstreet Boys, Avicii, Vengaboys, Roxette, The Offspring, Cake.

>>18493294
>>18493912
i missed your reply, sent you a mail!

>the offspring
they're great. let the bonding commence!

>>18490997

She's started with the "sorry, I fell asleep/got really busy/etc" the next day after she stops replying the night before. This means it's over right?

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Crossposting from a thread I started:

My girlfriend broke up with me because her grandfather offered to pay for her to go a couple hours away for college, and she doesn't want to be "serious". She also said she doesn't like that we passive aggressively argue sometimes and claims she doesn't like me anymore. Thing is, she's said these things before to distance herself, doesn't mean it, and then we got back together and it became serious. I don't know whether to give up, or be there, or if she's going to come back. When I first asked her if she didn't like me anymore, she couldn't answer. I really like her, and I don't believe for a second when she says she doesn't like me and doesn't want to be with me because she hasn't meant it before. But I don't want to be a delusional piece of shit either.

>>18493964
Whether or not she means it, it's not worth the trouble if she isn't willing to work with you on it.
She WANTS to distance herself instead of work things out. That's why she says those things.
Even if she caves and goes back to you, what stops her from wanting to distance herself again?

>>18493980
I know that it might be good to just let it go, but she really means a lot to me, more than anyone I've ever dated before. And she said things like she wanted a future with me, she just panics. And I guess part of me is afraid if I move on I could miss the chance to make it work.

>>18493964
sit her down and tell her what you just said here. if she's worth a damn, she'll be direct with you. otherwise you shouldn't waste your time on someone who would give up so easily and refuses to be direct with you.

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So...I think I might be a little too weird/creepy, a genuine salt-of-the-Earth sperglord. And I'm a girl.

There's a beginning acting class I'm apart of--I wanted to get more comfortable with controlling how I express myself and stuff like that. But the first day of class was kind of disheartening.

At the end I remember there being an improv scene and I ended up just coming up with a few relevant silly things that the other guy thankfully played along with. Some made people laugh so hard and long--I thought things were okay, but afterwards no one had much to say about the scene and one other girl looked suuuuper uncomfortable, one that was the biggest extrovert in class. I felt like shit.

I get the sense that maybe they were laughing at me and not with me or something. In the past people have told me that I should become a comedian each time I *try* to lighten up after laughing their asses off, which is bizarre. I don't have much practice. But, y'know, it was kind of reassuring, to try and then be rewarded, never rejected.

Of course, being the class clown in another class (I was also the teacher's pet, somehow) didn't stop a reasonably attractive guy from crushing on me. The other ones always greeted and talked to me and no other girl, but I dunno--maybe I was the class meme after all. A joke. I always made people laugh in that class, too.

So, girls and guys: what does it take for a young girl (an ugly one; I've never been called ugly, but I feel like I am even after my weight loss) what does it take for her to creep you out or make you uncomfortable? Should I just try to be as bland as possible? Dress cuter? Lose 20 more pounds and try making myself as small as possible?

>>18494019
People who try to be as bland as possible make me uncomfortable.

Grills
How many children would you be willing to have with your husband?

>>18494037
2-3

>>18493910
I think it's a lot of people. Sounds like somebody who just slept around and was incapable of having a meaningful relationship that lasted any amount of time.

girls or guys:

what's a healthy number of previous relationships / partners in your opinion? is a 28yo female khv a huge red flag?

>>18494050
>healthy number
0-4

>>18494050
The red flag would be how ugly she is.

>>18494050
That's a tricky one. A lot of people here seem to treasure the "pure" girl but after a certain age it does seem to make most men uncomfortable. Even before that age it sometimes does. You'd have to meet someone accepting and not too anal about such things, who won't judge you for it.

>>18494067
I have had virgins and whores, literally on both counts. The virgins were dead fish, and the whores were jaded (and the coke was wearing off). The best is a happy medium: enough experience to know how to pkease a man and to develop a kink or two, but not enough for sex to lose its edge.
Let's try expressing this as a formula:
> N_partners = age - 18
Would mean that a 28yo should have had 10 partners. That doesn't feel wrong.

>>18493757
This is a great way how to break up. The only reasonalbe solution ia to never talk about such object unless you enjoy somebody becoming insecure + jealous combo and seeing the other as slut / whore / fuckboy.

Do not do this and avoid any talks about such topics. If you must, lie. Try number two.
>>18493778
>>18493810
Yup, you are manwhore. Claim you had three gfs or you risk break up.

>>18493762
Only if you have new job to switch to in case of failure and or break up.

>>18493765
Cuddle, never take her for granted, go on dates even years after marriage and learn when to go into argument and when it is better to admit whatever she wants to hear.

>>18493773
You fucked up. Girls never bothet to do anything in the dating game. Next time try getting her number.
>>18493824
You fail to see that you have autism. Both girls and boys fear rejection. But boys have balls so tjey should have the ability to man up and ask girls on date. Either do something yourself or stay single.

You are supposted to chase girls, not the other way around. This is how society and nature made us.

>>18493779
You are creepy when you arent attractive enough and missing her clues she isnt interested in you aka
>one worded responces
>lack of smile
>not looking at you

>>18493812
Ask her on date. On 1vs1 date. Nobody is allowed to bring reinforcements. To dinner. Tell her you realized you like her more. See what happens for yourself.

>>18493883
Post pic.

>>18493959
The only sure way how to tell is ask her on date. Texting is boring.

>>18493964
Find new gf. Treat her as your back up girl.

>>18494050
I will take virgin anytime compared to that 50+ body count poster. You are fine.

To women:
How do you feel about sotic men?

Could you date a person who is psychotic, bipolar or emotionally abusive? Why or why not?

>>18493872
I don't know. It always seems like she's just fine without me. I'm probably never on her mind.

>>18493011
>Sure way dude. I hope you enjoy being teen and pregnant
Do people who go to church just not exist where you are or?

This thread is nearing the bump limit

>>18494398
it's true

>>18494127
>The only sure way how to tell is ask her on date. Texting is boring.

we've been hooking up for 5+ months

>>18494375
Well, some religious people have the biggest families because they dont believe into birth controll. It isnt bad to have a lots of kids, just make sure you have proper job before making them.

But hey, they call me condom anon. You can totaly be fine without them. Maybe you will be that guy who waits with sex until marriage happens. Still condoms are what reasonable adult brings on dates. She wont even know you have them (unless you will need them).

Does the sole thought of having sex with her make you feel bad? And on the waiting until marriage part. She can be starfish, asexual, abused, raped or crazy. Marriage is huge deal, it is better to get know her very well before making such huge decision.

>>18494407
If you cant tell she is into you after 5 months of dating, you either have autism, insecurity or you both suck at communication. And really, texting is unreliable.

Consider every other form of exchanging information except face to face as scam. Who cares she couldnt be assed to reply? Maybe you are just too much clingy. Talk to her in person again and see what happens.

And even if break up happens, dont go mad or sad. Sometimes you need to try multiple girls before you find compatible one.

>ex
>she's a whore yet denies it and tries to hide it
>told me about random hookups in exotic places
>lets be friends she says and shit
>after few weeks of no contact we start to sort of asking how is it, she asked me what am i doing, how am i doing, etc
>she called me "disgusting" after we broke up and i went mad and confronted her
>i assume she'll go for cock carousel this summer

After her bullshit, red pill stories and saying "I love you" two days before breaking up. I am really angry right now, even though it happened two months ago. How do I make it into FWB?

>>18494398
Thank you for the warning, wise sir or madam.

Would you date a guy who's average looking or even slightly below average looking if he has a lot of self confidence and comes across as a pretty social person?

>>18494559
You just described chad.
>how do you know you are below average
If you had a lot of self confidence, you wouldnt be able to describe yourself less than handsome.

Post pic.

>>18494423
why the hell would you want to? get as far away from that shit as possible

>>18494601
I'd rather not
I have a receding hairline since 17
I used to just get it buzzed but since turning 19 I started letting it grow out to kinda masquerade it a bit
But along with growing my hair out I also decided to start acting more confidently and I've made a lot of progress in that regard
when I first started working after getting out of high school I was super nervous and awkward, everyone though I was kinda wierd
but now I get along with pretty much everyone at work (mostly girls in their early and mid 20s), even when more people get hired I still don't have much of a problem talking to them and befriending them

>>18494712
If you spent as much time as typing this on okcupid making profile, you would probably have already asked some girl on date already.

>what are you waiting for?

>>18494359
You sound like a person with little self confidence and a fear of rejection. First, you never really know what goes on in someone's mind so don't assume that. Wallowing in self pity saying nobody needs me in not attractive to women or men. Part of life is rejection and it happens all the time. Not just in dating but in many things. You may be rejected for jobs, or other things. You move on. If you never try anything you'll never succeed.

>>18494417
>Does the sole thought of having sex with her make you feel bad?
No but if she wants to fuck on the first meeting I'm not interested in her, no offense to people who are that open but if that's the route she wants to go while claiming she's church going and wants to wait til marriage she's clearly not my type

>it is better to get know her very well before making such huge decision.
Which is why I want to date her before I jump into getting in her pants, I don't want to blog but I've had relationships in the past, one I felt super connected to that lasted years and everything since then has been short and unpleasant, I'd rather take it slow at this point and if that's what she's into then we match up even more perfectly