ITT: Ask the opposite gender anything

Guys: how common is it for a guy to hit on other women, check other women out etc. even though they're in a relationship or otherwise taken? In some cases, they know the other girl is in a relationship too.

Are the guys I know just particularly shitty?

>>18460933
I don't. I think your guys are shitty.

For girls:

>knew this girl in college
>got along with her really well
>lots of romantic tension
>end up not working out and we go our separate ways (I get shot down is the short of it) on friendly terms

>flash forward 4 years later
>she hits me up out of the blue and wants to have drinks
>meet up and have a nice evening
>the whole night she keeps mentioning how she wishes things went different in college
>part our ways and agree to see each other soon

>end up visiting her again, spend the weekend at her place
>she lives in the next city over and doesn't have friends other than her room mates
>first night we stay up really late catching up and both fall asleep on the couch
>next night we see a movie and she gets really handsy and we end up cuddled up through the movie
>for note, I have approached the whole friendship platonically since the last time I tried I got shot down. I let her set the pace and raise the sexual def con level.
>end up back at her place and end up in her bed through her suggestion. We just end up cuddling through the night

>next weekend I get invited back
>first night end up making out with her for the first time
>next night end up having sex for the first time together

>besides all of the sexual encounters she has been opening up to me about a lot of tings about herself that she says she hasn't told other people besides her close friend
>involves my advice in fairly important decisions
>wants to take a road trip with me

So now that you have some backstory, here's my question:
Obviously there's some sort of spark between us. I just worry that I might be a rebound or she may be exploiting me for affection until she develops roots in the her new city.
I know the best way to settle this communication. I just don't know how to approach the situation other than asking "what are your intentions for what's going on between us?"

I just don't want to sperg out but also don't want to develop feelings if it's a summer fling.

>>18460933
Lots of guys do this but it's not right.
Most guys are hard wired to check out women to a degree. If it's not egregious don't worry about it.

Hitting on someone else while you're in a relationship is a big red flag though. Anyone who defends it can fuck right off. You know what you're doing and why you're doing it.

Girls

What can this mean?

A girl that seemed kinda interested in me instantly said "HI, Sup Booooo" when I messaged her. This is only the 2 or 3rd time we spoke. And she said that.

>>18460960
Is she drunk?

>>18460965
I don't think currently. She seems coherent, but she was the first time we spoke. But explained her weirdness the following day.

Girls and guys,

I come from a third world country. I've literally wasted thousands of hours in books. My entire identity is based around being academically proficient. My interview preparation took 4 months since I didn't leave a single stone unturned. I recently got a job in my dream company.

The problem is, my friends who've never opened a book in their life lied on their resume and got jobs at great companies. Not only did they lie on their resume, they didn't attend the interview either. Somebody else did on their behalf. Don't ask me how this scam works but it is very elaborate.

I just feel I've wasted my entire life when I could have just taken the same shortcut they took. There is literally nothing out there for people with integrity. If I may come off as incredibly arrogant and bragging, please forgive me.

Hello
I'm a guy
I've been going to the gym for about a long while now

My arms are thick and so are my legs.
But my belly is...well, spare tired.

My abs are clearly visible below my ribs. Below my ribs, you can see some thick rippling abs.
But before long, my belly takes over and I have a wide gut, above my obliques and my hips.

I don't hate my body. It means I eat enough. But I'm never going to have the belly button abs. Not like traditional hotties.
Just the ridged muscles above a fat bulk and below a chest that can lift hard.

My upper body is thin and my middle body is a bit chubby.
I feel a bit out of place in the stereotypical body types.

Is this something women can like? I just feel like you either need to be a otter mode or pathetically fat.

>>18460973
What do you want advice on? Also don't they take photos or ask you for a photo when you apply?

>>18460952
Not my guys, guys I know - acquaintances, workmates, that sort of thing.

>>18460959
>Hitting on someone else while you're in a relationship is a big red flag though. Anyone who defends it can fuck right off. You know what you're doing and why you're doing it.
Yeah, my friend's ex straight up told me that he'd like to have sex with me. In front of her. Good thing she dumped him soon after, he was always an autistic fuck.

>>18460970
I mean, she seems more coherent then the first time we spoke, where she was actually a bit drunk

>>18460977

I just feel down and needed someone to console me I guess? I don't even know why I posted that. Man, I just wasted sooooo much time in books and it didn't even matter in the end. I could have just taken a shortcut like them but I had to get those perfect grades like a fucking retard.

>>18460981
Where do you live?

>>18460985
India.

>>18460981
Make your own thread then.

>>18460981
Obtaining an entry level job does not mean they will have long term success at their career.

>>18460988
Thought so, the scenario didn't sound too different from the stories I've heard from my cousins. Unfortunately, the corruption is going to fuck you over and over unless you're willing to play dirty. I know it's been ingrained in you that you need to study at the expense of everything else, but there was always going to be someone who cheats to get ahead

>>18460933
Hit on is a bit much, but checking out is fairly normal. Just because you're in a relationship doesn't make people any less attractive

>>18460994

Are you an ABCD?

>>18461007
Not the US and I'm pretty much whitewashed, but close enough.

Question to girls:

Some people mockingly say that women who are neurotic sometimes are "acting out because of period". How seriously this accusation should this be taken? I don't know much about female psychology in a sense that is there a short timeframe each month or whatever where I can't take women seriously?

>>18461018
Women who use their period as an excuse to be cunts are not women you should ever involve yourself with. There is an undeniable change in mood and attitude. All women go through it. But smart, rational women recognize when they're being unreasonable, PMS-y cunts and will go out of their way to avoid situations where they might blow up or harm others with their shit attitude.

Do not let any female tell you otherwise. They are irrational cunts.

>>18461018
I can count the number of times I've been neurotic because I'm on my period on one hand. Being on my period is no excuse to be shit to anyone.

>>18461018
I'm a man
But I know that women do go through cycles of emotions
Most won't admit it
But it's true
You get a woman to watch a sad thing during the height of her mense and she'll fucking die watching it.

I don't hate women because of it. It's just how they are. When their period is in full swing, they feel things stronger.

I'm a drunk so I can relate.

A girl I like asked me out of nowhere the other day if I was gay

What does this mean? I denied it (I am not) but now I'm worried people and especially girls just think I'm gay and not interested. What kind of question is that even?

>>18461031

Did you try and make a move on her but failed miserably? Does she know you like her?

According to her facebook, she's in a relationship with a dude. His page says the same. However, he hasnt posted anything since April; prior to thay he posted constantly, tagging her in everything. Her posts and Snapchat stories never include him. You think they're still together? I don't want to make a move on her just to find out she's already taken.

>>18461029
>>18461025
>>18461022
Thanks for the replies, helped me out here to form an opinion on this question.

>>18460927
I'm an emotionally abusive girlfriend and I need help from either sex to learn how to stop. I've made my boyfriend: stop drinking and stop being with some friends I didn't like. Also I get really mad at him when he does something without me, I just treat him like he's a piece of shit even if it's something as dumb as playing a videogame without me.
Anyone else is/was on the same boat and knows how to cope/stop?
Also, I'm not a native english speaker, so sorry if something sounds odd

>>18461052
Ask her friends about it if you're insecure

I went on a date with a girl I technically knew for a year but lost contact with for roughly 6 months.

We get along quite well in person and have good conversation for the most part, we laugh, etc. But she's really bad at communicating over text, social media etc; I always feel like I'm taking the initiative when we aren't face-to-face.

I want to talk to her (I'm not in the immediate area - so it would not be face-to-face), but I don't want to always initiate when its digital communication. I'm worried I'll come off as desperate, even though she does seem to enjoy hanging out with me in person.

Any advice for this confused male anon?

>>18461085
Thats the thing though, the only way I know her is through friends of friends of friends. I've never really even talked to her irl before

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Broke up. Does it ever get better? I just don't want to get into spiral of depression, I just started drinking and sleeping for 16 hours a day. Even worse that I think that everything was my fault.

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>>18460927
This one is mostly for the girls but if any guys know anything,do tell

Recently I got a new friend who is currently raising her child by herself. How she got this kid was by drinking with a now ex-best friend and he barebacked her. According to her the guy does not pay for child support nor can she even claim it because he is not on the birth certificate. Of course,she could just be lying to me but i'd like to know if there's anything that could be done legally under that sort of situation.

For the record I didn't ask her about any of this shit,she just opened up and told me,I didn't say or imply I was going to help her with it and ultimately this is just a wandering thought on the matter from me.

Pic not really related

>>18461174
I'm legally trained but probably not from where you are so take this with a grain of salt, but she should be able to apply to a court to have him do a court-ordered paternity test. Once she confirms he's the father, he can be made to pay child support even if he's not on the birth certificate.

>>18461180
I'm in Arizona. And if it matters she is originally from South Dakota with her kid being born there as well. That's also where the father is too.

>>18461197
Well I'm not even from the US, so I wouldn't know. It just doesn't seem right to me that there's no way to make him pay child support just because he's not on the birth certificate though.

>>18460973
First, if you got a job at your dream company, why are you bothered with what other people are doing? You do what makes you happy simply for the sake of it making you happy. Don't worry about what everyone else is doing with their lives.

In America at least, if the company finds out you lied on your resume it's grounds for immediate termination. Assuming it works the same way in your country, they're all taking some pretty big risks.

Unless you mean they exaggerated a little bit on their resumes, which is a little different.

>>18460953
That sounds like a pretty good way to handle it. There's no way to know what's going on in her head except to ask. She sounds like a reasonable person who really just likes you a whole lot, so approach it honestly and openly and it should work out.

>>18461079
You should learn to recognize these kinds of actions as they are happening. Next time you attempt to do something controlling, stop and think about it. Offer a compromise that accomplishes what you want without completely stepping on him. If you need to, try and be honest with him by asking his opinion if you're being controlling or not. He'll most likely appreciate you more and more if you just communicate about it without getting controlling

>>18460927
Dude what the fuck but do you understand how gay Zoro really is? Man is fucking obsessed with swords and carries one in his mouth.
Really I think he must like the blade being thrust through him like shit I would want that dick too you know what I'm saying spray Dr Pepper in my asshole fuck my armpit

Am the only one that intrisincally doesn't trust attractive people?

>>18461233
Don't be so close minded man, unatractive people are not to be trusted either until proven otherwise.
People that are shit will be shit no matter their looks, trust me.

>>18461236
Oh no, I'm completely aware of my selection and anecdotal bias. I just feel like something's wrong, like they're so pretty there's gotta be SOMETHING going on under the hood.

It's kind of like when I go to the therapist's office, all that comforting music and nice atmosphere just makes me more tense, like it's trying to put me off guard to stab me in the back later.

>>18461233
Maybe you should stop being so paranoid. I know quite a few attractive people who are absolutely lovely.

>>18460933
I flirt with everyone.

>>18461045
For now I'm fine with being her friend, she's out of my league so maybe I'll ask her a bit down the line when I lose some more weight.

But I mean, why would you straight up ask somebody if they're gay, we were a bit drunk but man

Guys how long does it take for you to decide that you like a girl?

>>18461300
1 glance.

>>18461300
Usually after talking to her for some time
I'm assuming you mean like not only in the physical sense because if not then >>18461303 is kinda right

>>18461300
It depends.

Do you mean physical attraction, or an emotional connection?

>>18460975
Get some advice from /fit/.

>>18460953
You sound like one of the most sane people on these threads.
I'd wait until pillow talk when she'll most open and then say bashfully 'so what are we doing here?'

>>18461303
>>18461304
>>18461313
I meant emotional attraction.

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>>18461326
1 glance.

>>18461150
Yeah. Stop drinking and start doing things till it gets better.

>>18461300
Bi female here, I realise you weren't asking me but thought I'd mention that I find it takes me a lot less time to decide if I like a grill than a guy.

>>18461093
I'm in the same boat but as a femanon.
I'm drawn between thinking 'oh he's just not much of a texter, we have a great time irl so whatever' and feeling like having a strong and frequent text back and forth is kinda part of modern courtship. Idk. I realise this doesn't help lol.

>fap to porn since I was 12
>now 22
>mother never talked to me about anything, just watched tv and got drunk all the time
>same with my sister, in her room 24/7
>only see women as sex objects
>start to know a girl
>she has all these interests that are common to me, it feels unnatural
>I lust after her so hard
>think about having sex with her whenever we talk
>try to flirt all the time because it's all I think women want to do but we do actually talk about a lot of shit
>rejects me when I confess to her

So the rejection totally brought me back to reality and I've stopped watching porn and having all sorts of realization about everything especially how women are just people. This girl and I stopped talking for a few months but recently she keeps messaging me, I miss her a lot but it's so embarrassing to think about how I treated her before when we talked.

I just want some opinions like am I fucking insane I feel like a sexist but it just feels like it was ingrained into me.

>>18461326
It again depends on how much contact you have with the girl, but I'd average it out to around two weeks.

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>>18461300
>>18461326
It depends on the amount of their experience.

Unexperienced guys will emotionally like a girl when they first see a girl and find them to be attractive. They will legit put up with all sorts of bullshit and grant "wishes" with little or no trouble because they want their trophy.

Experienced guys will only physically like a girl when they first see a girl and find them attractive. They won't emotionally like them until they've had enough time with the girl in the time of about 2 dates.

beautiful girls intimidate me

how do I stop this? i just feel so ugly and inappropriate next to them (im male)

>>18460973
>I come from a third world country.

I think I've identified your problem.

>Start having feelings for best friend
>Tell her
>She says she needs some time away, still see her every day
>Be distant as fuck
>She says she lost trust in me
>Realize I lost a friendship, want to start rebuilding it, can't even hold a conversation with her
>Whenever we're in the same space I keep looking at her trying to lock eyes so we can chat
>She says I'm acting obsessed and she feels scared
Is this friendship salvageable?

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>>18461356
I mean you can just say it's a bad idea to trust women and get the same result.

>>18461358
Women are always judging you. However because of this, when they see an average-looking guy come up to them acting like hot shit, they short circuit. They don't know how to deal with that unexpected situation.

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>>18461326
For me it's about 1 or 2 dates. Though bear in mind I've never really felt the heart-throbbing, let's be together at all times kind of emotional attraction. Most of the time it was more like "she is kind of interesting and bearable to be with so why not"

Damn, I wish I looked like Nick bateman. Please advice

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>>18460927
Girls watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AXf5vjQV-w

And tell me,in your opinion who was in the wrong here?

>>18460933
I am lazy. Once i have qtie, i disregard other girls completely. You are just dating boys who atent build for monogamy. Look into open relationships or find better bf.

>>18460960
It means you are both underage. Ask her on date.

>>18460973
Life isnt fair. Sorry
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTXPUF4Oz4
Also this >>18461204 stop comparing yourself to others.

>>18460975
Do you know what bear mode is? Some girls get wet just by seeing that type of body. Also >>>/fit/ sticky
If you want abs, you need to do CORE excercises (hint: your belly and back hurts after excercise). Then you need to cut, aka eating with deficit, so your body shreds fats. Still most people with abs roids, because it is pretty hard to have them. And it is about genetics too.
>where is your photo?

>>18461031
She wants your D and wonders why havent you asked her on date yet. And since girls arent allowed to ask boy on dates, all she could do was ask bullshit question like this. Escallate the situation and go on date with her.

>>18461052
Dont be pussy and ask her directly. You have nothing to lose.

>>18461079
1. Step is to realize your fails.
2. Step is to apologize to your bf.
3. Step is to tell him to not being afraid call you on your bullshit.
4. Step ia the hardest one: stop behaving like shit gf. I bet you are just jealous and insecure.

Talk about it with your qtie bf and try cuddle theraphy. Every time you feel like yelling at him, force yourself to hug and cuddle him instead. Might do something.

>>18461093
Just talk to her. And dont fall for ldr trap.

>>18461150
Stop drinking and you will survive.

>>18461233
You are supposted to trust nobody.

>>18461300
First 10 minutes 1vs1 on date.

>>18461341
You got 0 replies because your post doesnt have any valid question. Try again.

>>18461358
Learn how to not give a fuck aka grow balls.

>>18461367
No, find new girl to orbit or better yet, real gf.

>>18461404
Of course they will defend her, they're dumb cunts just like her.

for the goys

been learning guitar fro almost a year. am pretty cutie female, but am weird around people and fidgety; if theres a guitar in the room i'll play it to pass the time and not talk to anyone. been playing it constantly for months and am reasonable at it, got good quite fast.

been invited to cottages 2 times this summer so far. i ask "may i bring a guitar and just play it on a couch somewhere" and they say of course. but when im there, i feel really annoying. its hard to tell what they think; sometimes i go into solitude to play but then people will congregate around me. was by the fire this weekend, and a neighbor asked who's guitar it was, and if i could play/sing anything. and my eyes lit up and i said, "yes! id love to" and played for over an hour doing covers.

but for as much contentment it seems to bring, i also feel resentment.

don't quite know what the question is other than- does that sounds annoying?

>>18461447
Playing guitar is obsolete since everybody has whole orchestra in their pockets.

>i feel really annoying
Maybe you feel like that because you are introvert and spending time with strangers tires you out.

Maybe get a bf and dont go to places you dont like going? Stop using guitar as escape to your comfort zone?

>>18461453

>Playing guitar is obsolete since everybody has whole orchestra in their pockets.

Music out of a contraption gets pretty old fast and has bad vibes if you're outdoors. It can be replayed over and over and isn't as 'alive'. When somebody is playing music for you 1v1, its fleeting- its beautiful and sacred and very personal. Especially when people join in with their own contributions, whether whistling or drumming, singing along, etc. It's communal. Also, those orchestras in your pocket, are made by musicians. Who practice instruments to build their talent. They go hand in hand. My friends are very musical though and i can compare their music to prerecorded songs vividly. Someone playing a song well in person will illicit a much more intense response than if the original was playing over a phone speaker.

>>18461405
please, don't respond to my posts

Laa of you, Anons,
how would you feel about creating two threads from time to time:
-one for basic, autistic questions about dating/etc.
one for advanced stuff, where those without severe, obvious and basic problems would post?

I dated a girl from tinder. We seemed to really hit it off, both of us were surprised! this was genuine interest.

I was talking to another girl at the time but broke it off, told the new girl that I won't feel alright talking to 2 girls so I just want to focus on her, she seemed flattered and told me "you don't need to stop talking to other girls for me" I told her not to be silly, of course I'd focus on her only.

Later I hinted that I'm gonna delete tinder since its getting on my nerves, she said its pissing her off too. We continue talking, I disable my account, everything is going well between the two of us. Then out of curiosity I turn my account back on to see if she deleted hers, she didn't, in fact she updated it with another picture... Why still be on tinder if she was interested in me? why update her pictures? I know we weren't technically together at that point but I had no interest in even using the app while I was dating her, so why would she still go on it?

in the end we didn't last long, she wasn't too upset about it, I think she might've talked to another guy while dating me and he just might've been better or something, there again, I'm just guessing here, she really seemed to be into me...

>>18461504
I'm not sure what distinction you're trying to make?

>>18461540
sometimes I want to ask about some specific aspects of female psychology and behaviour, without my question being derailed by people assuming I'm an autist/robot or the 'buy condoms' guy.
Sometimes there is a complete dating newbie, who would benefit much more, if it was clear, that they need some very basic advice first, without going into confusing details, etc.

Just a thought, of course. I wuold feel better, knowing that other people realise I know the basics and am socially able before answering my questions, thus providing more insightfull information, hopefully.
So maybe there's more people like me?

>>18461559
So you want an advanced /atoga/ and a basic one? Lol okay I guess I for one wouldn't be averse. Anything to lessen the barrage of 'buy condoms'

>>18461538
What's your question?

I feel ya in general though, dating is so confusing these days. The grass is always greener.

>>18461579
Why would she update her tinder pic and still be active on it while she's dating me and shows genuine interest? I even told her I might delete mine to focus on her because I'd feel weird being active elsewhere while dating her at the same time, hoping she'd do the same.

Idk i just feel like dating is like committing to it, like you don't normally date multiple girls at the same time right? especially not when any of the girls know about it

>>18461572
Glad you feel this way.
I'll try making such thread tomorrow or even later today

>>18461328
Do any girls find this picture makes them feel insecure about interacting with men?

>>18461595
I'm a grill and I feel the same way. When I'm dating someone and I like them I want to get into that talk asap wherein I can say 'hey, let's not see anyone else while we're seeing each other, let's not talk with people on apps' but it's hard to do and some people perceive it as 'let's be exclusive bf gf' and I find it hard to delineate in my communication.

The guy I'm seeing atm, met him irl so at least I don't have the tinder worries this time, but I really want to have the monogamy talk and I'm scared bc so many people these days see dating one person at a time as old fashioned.

>>18461604
Nah. I find it funny and relatively true, as much as a 4chan post can be true.

>>18461597
Call it 'ask the opposite gender: premium plus'. That'll make it sound elite.

>>18461604
Haha nope I feel the same way about men.

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To the girls:

So this is my first gf and I've been going out with her for three years or so. It just feels like sometimes when I'm with her she would rather be with her friends and everytime I invite her to come out to a social gathering ie a bbq she would find some way to get out of it. It's starting to piss me off and I know I should speak to her about this but I just feel like I shouldn't bother. What do you think is going through her?

>>18461612
gee, people will feel confused we're not charging them additional fees inside

>>18461619
sounds like she's getting ready to break up with you, sry anon. She probably is just too wimpy to tell you yet, and wats for you to make the first step...

>>18461619
Do you like her friends? Maybe you two need to foster some joint mates like go on double dates?

>>18461609
I don't really need the exclusive bf/gf thing from the start but I don't want the girl to talk to other guys and then she expects me to be ok with it, I'd feel like I'd have to compete and it brings out my insecurities, if I knew she was only talking to me then at least I'd be able to relax and show her myself to the full potential.

I can understand her talking to other guys/keeping her options open within the first week or so, but after almost 2 months?? thats a bit ridiculous, not to mention she ignored or got upset and left me hanging when I'd ask suggestive questions regarding other guys, but when she'd ask me questions about other girls it was ok and I had to answer... Her excuse was that she had trust issues I guess, but she felt like she had the right to be that way, when I started having trust issues apparently I was going "too far", which eventually broke us up. I don't get it, she was great in everything else, she just thought that if she did something it was ok and seemed oblivious to it, but when I did it it was too far and almost insulting

>>18461615
Really? Do you only talk to guys to find attractive? I'm happy being friends with a guy I have a crush on who is taken/doesn't find me attractive because my attraction is based on emotional connection rather than sexiness.

>>18461628
I'm just being facetious really. I have male empires etc. I do prefer the company of women though.

Guys

What do you think when a girl says that she admires your work, is impressed with your knowledge ect?

>>18461635
all flavours of good
I also start checking for her possible sexual/romantic interests in me, if she's attractive

>>18461635
I get shy because I'm an introverted beta that can't take compliments. I do like it though, but if it hints that she's interested in me then it completely flies over my head

>>18461628

Most guys don't have the privilege of multiple people hitting on them. The bitterness actually comes from hitting on someone only to find they are taken.

>>18461635
I'd likely get flustered or shy because I'm not used to getting words of admiration for my work.

>>18461628
As a man, if I were the guy in that pics situation I'd have to rationalize it like this:

I'm trying to find things relatable to that girl, whether I'm trying to hit on her or befriend her, whatever. I need/want to find common ground to chat about with her. If she starts bringing up her bf, and I'm single, the conversation becomes very one sided. I can't relate to what she's talking about nearly as well, so I don't see the conversation going anywhere else, so it's in my best interest to move on.

Guys

a follow up question to this one

>What do you think when a girl says that she admires your work, is impressed with your knowledge ect?

Would you assume she is flirting?

>>18461695
No, I am a girl and I love to compliment people around me, becasue I know it will brighten their day somewhat. You can assume that she likes you though, just don't immediately think romanticaly.

>>18461480
Make me.

>>18461504
There isnt enough manpower for both of them.

>>18461538
You dont delete your account until you know you will marry that person dummie.

Keep seeing multiple girls at once until you find your future wife. Only after that you break up with rest of your harem and delete slut app.

>>18461635
It inflates my ego. So yes, keep doing that. We like it. A lot.
>>18461695
If you want him to become your bf, ask him this
>where is your gf
and once she comes up with variation of
>tfw no gf
ask him on coffe or something

Not that hard.

Asking here cause she's a girl and I don't feel kike making a new thread.
What to do if a friend starts randomly ghosting you over random trivial texts, like "have you seen the final episode" of this anime"? It has been a day now and she still hasn't seen it, and I can't help but worry something is wrong.

>>18461695
If it's a one off thing? No. I would assume she's being friendly I'd probably won't think it's anything more than that.

If it happens fairly often I might get the idea that there's some intent to flirt, but that's highly situational.

>>18461695
it's not flirting, it's complimenting.
flirting is when you're half-jokingly talk about sex/relationship related stuff. Able to laugh it off if anything goes wrong, able to use it to achieve sex if it goes right

but it might lead to flirting

>>18461709
*like
Why the fuck did I type kike lmao

>>18461709

You're probably just boring her and she's got better shit to do.

>>18461705
u mad people dislike u here?
ur always trying hard to achieve it, lol

>>18461705
I only deleted the account temporarily because I was dating this girl and thought it was the logical thing to do, like you go on tinder to date someone, try them out, delete the app, see where it goes, if it doesn't work out, go back on the app and renew account.

Being on it WHILE dating, to me, it implies lack of interest so its very discouraging, especially when you know someone for a couple of months, get along, like each other more and she is still using the app. Am I being retarded for using this logic?

Besides, noone is talking about marriage, that shit takes years to happen. Can you imagine being with someone for 3 years and they're still using tinder actively? to me that just sounds wrong its like saying "yea we might get married but just in case, I'll still be on the look out in case something better than you comes along ok?", how could you marry someone like that?

>>18461723
So the right course of action is ignore it and act like it didn't happen unless it becomes a repeated incident?

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When is the right time to tell the girl that I like her?
Before I ask her on a date, during the date, or after the date?
Also, is there anything wrong with asking to kiss her?

>>18461734
If you ask someone on a date, you kinda already implied you like her. No need to say it.

Don't ask to kiss her. Just go for the kiss if it feels right.

>>18461728
>years to happen
I am not you, obviously, but i can tell from first date if i will keep seeing her or not. And really, until you start the
>we are now official couple
or until you sleep with them, you both are still free game. She wants the most attractive rich stable guy she can get her hands on it and you want probably the same.

We live in 21st century where being monogamous is outdated practice. Dont think too hard about it and be glad you havent wasted years with her.
>if some girl will fall for you hard, she wont even think about other boys at all
Keep dating and eventually some girl will be the one.

>3 years and still on tider
That means she doesnt love you at all.

>>18461734
After she tells you. If you do it first, you lose all manliness, respect and eventually she will leave you. Use actions instead of words.

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This is where I sleep. What sort of impression does this give?

>>18461751
is there even a matress down there? It makes me think of severe back pain

>>18461751
Would pet the cat and have sex there at the same time.

>>18461762
Kek, this

As a girl would you respect a guy more for sort of neglecting making any relationships (girlfriend, sex, all that) due to just being committed to trying to get himself sorted first?

Am 19, still a virgin, after a bit of fucking around found a course that I really like at Uni. Got 2.5 years left until it's done and I can (hopefully) get a banging job; or at least something to sustain myself quite well.

I just feel sort of uncomfortable I guess trying for a relationship when I can't provide for myself. Maybe it's just how burnt in it is in my brain that as a male I need to be the bread maker, but idk.

I want my own house, my own life that I can bring a girl into; so she can see how I live and see if she's keen. Not a relationship that suffers because you always have to fuck around and settle for a shit time because rest of the family is home and being cunts.

Is this logical or just an autistic way for me to convince myself that it's okay that I'm 19, still gf-less and sex-less?

>>18461695
No.

>>18461751
weeb

>>18461404
>who was in the wrong here?
That insufferable cunt, kek holy shit. Any grown woman (or man) who throws a tantrum like that has SERIOUS issues and even the most beta cuck shouldn't tolerate that.

I don't want to learn emacs or vim, what text editor should I use?

>>18461946
Why do so many people think /adv/ is /g/?
Also not using either is Pajeet tier.

>>18461972
/g/ is an elitist circlejerk just like all other interest boards
>not using either
Ok, so how do I choose between the two then?

Girls

I recently made friends with a girl. I'm currently traveling in her country and she met up with me in one of the big cities and we spent all day Saturday and Sunday hanging out. It was cool. Well tomorrow, she invited me over her apartment and said she was to teach me how to make some local dishes from scratch, including desserts. That sounds perfectly fine with me. Here's the thing. Friends keep telling me this girl wants to fuck. I DON'T want to. I would rather just being friends. But my friends, and some others say "a girl wouldn't invite a guy into her apartment she's only seen twice in real life, and offer to teach them how to cook without wanting sex"...

Is this true? I've told her in the past that I do not want a girlfriend. I've never been flirty with her, and I thought things were very platonic when we spent time together. I stayed in my personal space

>>18461992
I had male friends over many times.

>>18461995

Ok good

>>18461992
>"a girl wouldn't invite a guy into her apartment she's only seen twice in real life, and offer to teach them how to cook without wanting sex"...
great sentence. I lold

why do girls like to travel so much? even the awkward or introverted ones I met always want to go somewhere and travel, some even want to move out and live in a different country?

I'm not much into travel myself so being with a girl who likes travelling a lot is a bit much for me since she'd want to go places and I don't, not as often as she does anyway.

>>18462012

>why do girls like to travel so much?

That's not unique to girls, just so you know.. many people enjoy traveling. I'm a guy, and I travel as much as I can

>>18462012
ah, coming here again and sperging it again.
read the fucking sticky
fucking read it and understand finally

>>18462012
Because it's fun. Meet people, learn about new cultures, see beautiful places, eat good food, have fun experiences.
Plus you break your routine.

>>18462012
I'm in the same boat. I hate travelling, my gf loves it. We used to argue until she eventually accepted the fact that we won't travel somewhere every year.

>>18462012
Grill here. I hate travelling. I just wanna cotch at home and get high and watch Loose Women.

Are most women more attractive than most men?
I'd say without makeup they are pretty much on par. Why do women tend to overinflate their looks? You see this all the time on FB and Instagram where there are loads of comments on how pretty one is even though she maybe a 5/10.

What is it with girls wearing my t-shirts when at home? Why do they love it so much? I don't understand that.

>>18462135
It's comfy

>>18462134
stand back, i'll be doing magic:

you are a heterosexual male

how did I know that?
think about it

>>18462135
it's the smell - the most important factor in attraction

>>18462139

What do you mean? It's not rocket science

>>18462148
it's not

but i know it for certain, simply because you are attracted to women and not to men
biologically
so it's fucking obvious you find women more attractive

>>18462134
>Are most women more attractive than most men?
Nah. Actually in many cultures for a long ass time men were considered to be more beautiful.

> Why do women tend to overinflate their looks?
Because today it works perfectly for them today.

Women can wear something stylish / sexy and some makeup and post pictures and they really get swarmed. Also happens IRL (though I guess more for the 7/10 and above than the rest).

>>18462157
Did you even read what I said?

I said I feel they are pretty much on par without makeup. I was asking why people overestimate a womens attractiveness

boys
thoughts on a girl who seeks your advice & emotional support ?

>>18462134
Women's attractiveness is a bell curve whereas men's is a fat tailed distribution (at least their perceived attractiveness to the opposite sex).

So if you ask a woman to rate the next hundred men she sees out of ten, she'll say a lot are 3, 4 and some are ten. If you ask a man for women he'll say most are around the middle.

>>18460973
lol chutiya

>>18462134
>You see this all the time on FB and Instagram where there are loads of comments on how pretty one is even though she maybe a 5/10.
I noticed that too.
Was quite disappointed actually since most of those girls seemed like the marriage material type, but they all still succumbed to the social media.

>>18462134
Aren't the comments mostly from men? Isn't it then men who overinflate women's looks?
Men are generally more visually stimulated than women. So women get more attention for looking nice than men do, even if they aren't "more attractive."

>Have strong affection toward really close female friend

>We're always hanging out and people say that we'd either make a great couple or they thought we were already one

Is it worth it to declare my feelings for it? Or is it not worth the risk of ruining a wonderful friendship?

>>18462175
Chal bhosdike

>>18460960
Thats interesting. I messaged her asking about meeting up. Literally no reply. But I know she's read it.

Yet she would kinda act interested.


Any thoughts?

>>18462160 (cont'd)
To expand a bit on that: It was very much like "I wished I had an elegant, beautiful dick and muscular breast rather than this ugly hole and two flabby chunks of fat. I wished I had the strength to carry society, but I'm half useless and ever grateful that I get so much protection and help by the heroic men."

Not that that was really good, but it's somewhat the same in nature as the tits worship today, where men "need" to put in a lot of effort to be allowed into the presence of beautiful women.

Going on a third ish date with a guy, I suggested seeing a film and he said sure you choose.
Now I'm looking at what's showing and there's nothing patrician on, I can't bear the thought of taking him to see some blockbuster it would be too awks.
What do? Also any films recs appreciated (showing currently in London)

>>18462164
> advice
No problem to almost any man, as long as it's not extremely frequently.

> emotional support
Many of us have trouble with lying for no reason, and I noticed a few times that goes against what some women expect for "emotional support". Some really just want to hear nothing about their own faults.

But emotional support as such, sure.

22 yo virgin here.
I had plenty of chances, but decided to wait for the 'right' one. None of that religious bullshit but I just wanted the first time to be with someone I like.

So... I recently got a gf and things started getting intimate. I licked her nips, sucked on 'em tits, dry humped her when she was only on her panties (She's not ready yet), and the whole time I just started thinking sex is really over-rated... I had a fascination with boobies but when I experienced them for the first time, they are just flesh. Like I enjoyed them a lot, but I had such high expectations, that I felt short changed.

We're definitely fucking next time, but I'm starting to think sex is really over-rated than what it is thought out to be.

>>18462197
The emotional connection is what makes sex special. If you're lacking that, and you're just fucking someone out of lust, it's not gonna be that good.

>>18462197
Sex is overrated by male virgins and I say this as a guy. The males who aren't getting any tend to overrate it to sky high levels.

Giving your gf multiple orgasms isn't overrated though.

>>18462204
I like making her happy, and we have a great emotional connect. But, the pre-conceived notion of boobs as being heavenly and sex being like ultimate pleasure is what I think made a bit let down. find it over rated..

>>18462207
What I mean by an emotional connection is actual love. Both lust and love are emotional, but there is a big difference. In your post you said you recently got a gf, how recent? The reason I ask is because you can't truly love someone if you've only been with them for a couple months. You can be in lust, though.

Also, boobs are just fleshy sacks. But when they belong to a girl you're in love with, they become the most heavenly soft beautiful things.

>>18462197
I don't know what you expected sex to be, but is not overrated to me.

If you were just looking for maximum stimulation, well, the girl might require a bit of learning to beat your own masturbation techniques. Likewise for you with hers.

>>18462194
don't you have some little, nice, alternative cinemas around?

Mostly just venting because this is making me feel like shit. If anyone can say what they think about this, I'd appreciate it.

>Be pretty close with female coworker
>We hang out/talk outside of work
>She gives signals, but sometimes plays hot/cold
>Never asked her out because I won't date coworkers

Anyway, just left my job recently
>Last few weeks of working there, she seemed really sad whenever the topic of me leaving came up
>Always asked "are we still going to hang out and talk to eachother?"
>On my last day she says "we need to hang out more"
>About a week after leaving the job, I text her
>We go back and forth for about an hour
>Ask her if she wants to hang out/get something to eat
>Ignored

That was a few days ago, haven't talked to her since then. This sucks.

Why would she make such a fuss about hanging out with me, and then ghost me the second I bring it up?

>>18462214
Like three months. I don't what being in 'love' is. I genuinely care for her and will be a support pillar for her. Don't want her to ever get hurt. idk if that's love.But, it's definitely not lust. I wasn't in the best of moods that night because I hadn't slept properly at all for a couple of days before that. Maybe that's the reason.

THey're pretty soft doe. I'll see next week how it is

>>18462204
> If you're lacking that, and you're just fucking someone out of lust, it's not gonna be that good.
Not really. Fucking someone out of pure mutual lust rather than a profound lovey-dovey connection is also very nice.

You may of course still have a high chance to grow emotionally attached and so on if you do that - but the point is, it can very much be amazing from the start.

>>18462194
He wanted you to choose? Pick something you like, let him pick the next time.

Also if you're not sure what you want to do in a cinema, go figure out something you *want* to do. (Photo shoot in the twisted orchid? Well, maybe you're not both perverted enough for that... )

>>18462145
>the most important factor in attraction
Really?
How do I smell my perfect gf

>>18462271
using your nose, bro.
but the actually most important signal is most likely unconscious. You'll just like her smell and feel great attraction toward her, always wanting to be close

>>18462278
Isn't it rare for that stuff to be reciprocal though? I hear about girls smelling their bf's shirts a lot but not really about the opposite

>>18460927
Why do so many men refuse to talk about the problems in a relationship? Its like talking to a fucking wall, when all i need is to work on them TOGETHER. I feel like many relationships fail because of this.
And also, if youre a girl and dont like to talk about or work on problems, please tell me why not. I just need some explanation

Girls:
What is the worst thing a guy has done, but you allowed him to rebounce and maybe even got in a relationship with him?

>>18462280
there is no science about this. I'm currently writing my thesis on it, and there is very little actual research.

But what we have suggests clearly, that we're capable of using our smell to find just the right partners. And it works for both sexes.
But keep in mind, that people are crazy about masking their natural smells, making this harder. And girls especially care about it and use more perfumes, etc.

>>18462294
>What is the worst thing a guy has done, but you allowed him to rebounce and maybe even got in a relationship with him?
Didn't tell me he was still technically married for our first dates.

>>18462299
>people are crazy about masking their natural smells
Yeah so you basically have to have sex with the person first, then figure it out
>writing my thesis on it
That's pretty cool though.

>>18462282
>Why do so many men refuse to talk about the problems in a relationship?
Too generic. But of course its also because many know their women usually aren't actually negotiating. TOGETHER is going to have to be be what she wants.

Girls,

If your partner suddenly got a fit body what would change? Provided everything else (personality etc) remains the same

>>18462301
>so you basically have to have sex with the person first
not absolutely necessery, but comes very handy indeed.
But you can also dance (some quick dance) with them, work out together, go hiking... Any activity that makes you both sweat.
this may be thus called to be the best group of activities to do on a first/second date.

Another thing is that the smell can also prevent mating. This is one of our incense-blockers. You can always hear young/adolescent girls complaining about the males in their family smelling horribly. This prevents mixing with bad genetical matches in general too. No actual blood relation is needed.

>>18462303
yes of course but you cant even start working on things if one doesnt even talk about it

>>18462282
hell, I remember having that one mistake-gf.
when I started talking about any problems in our relationship, she would just change the topic instantly. She never talked with me about it at all.
needless to say, I BTFO'd very qquickly

>>18462315
That's some interesting stuff. Are there no resources to learn more about this?

>>18461822
I tell you what will happen if you decide to remain monk until you get your shit togethet:

You will be ~25 virgin with house, work and 0 social skills. And even then if you find some girl, you will question her motives like gold digging or turn full r9k and look for virgin.

There is no reason to not do school and date (or try to) on weekends. And remember, the young girls are in same life mess as you are now.

So really, if you want gf, go for it now. It can take years before you find the one. Just dont get them pregnant too soon and you will be fine.

>>18461946
>text editor
Notepad++ is all you need sempai
>linux
Gedit is fine too. Some prefers sublime, but you have to pirate it.

But for all means, you need ide. Refractore, find all calls, replace, compile and run via one button, source explorer and other stuff. Adopt any ide (eclipse or visual studio are good).

>>18461992
I would say to bring condoms, but adv dont like condoms. So no, no risk of sex at all.

>>18462012
Basic bitch syndrome showing 0 interest into anything resembling hobbies.

>>18462164
Provide concrete situation and what do you want from the boy?

>>18462180
Ask her on 1vs1 date and try to hand hold her.
>risk friendship
That is nonsence. You akready love her, stop lying to yourself. Get into her panties already.

>>18462194
Did you know you can cuddle and totally ignore the film staring into each other eyes while trying to keep quiet?

>>18462197
You forgot to ask question. Also
>just wait until you put it in
It is quite fun. Dont forget to cuddle a lot afterwards.

>>18462225
People are scared of changes. Both posite and negative. Also accepting going on date requires balls. Her evading question means she has lost them. Wait 48 hours and ask her on date once more. Then forget about the bitch.
>it could have been worse

>>18462282
We are conditioned by society to never ever fail, show weakness, ask for direction/advice or show feelings. By doing so girls lose respect for us.

>>18462309
well he'd become more attractive i would say. I've never been with a very fit guy before and i'm not superficial, so i dont know if a fit body helps with love.

>>18462309

How does one suddenly get a fit body? It's one of the things that never happens suddenly. So probably nothing would significantly change overnight. But I'm dating a guy who's fairly in shape, so I might be biased. If he got fat, I'd probably feel less physically and sexually attracted to him and there would be less sex and physical intimacy. So I'd imagine getting fit would work the opposite way.

>>18462323
yes I'm a bit scared that i will fall out of love because of this. It drives me crazy.

>>18462327
It has nothing to do with superficiality. Most women are attracted to muscles on a primal level. But I do get your point.

>>18462309
Depends on how fit. I'm not huge into fit guys, but it's sexy to see a man being driven and happy.

>>18462324
the most data I have comes from old experiments on rats.
Not very exciting stuff, if you're not a total nerd.
there *is* some stuff, but the topic is almost untouched. After all, it's really hard to research on human sexuality - a lot of technical problems.
really a lot. I can go looking for what I have, but it may take me some hours. If you want it, I can drop some citations later.
But if you're interested in that stuff, check out Masters and Johnson research and check out what cites it nowadays. I guarantee you'll learn a lot of fun stuff.
Finally, you can try your luck on google scholar. you never know what you'll find

>>18462342
Alright then, thanks anon.
>I can drop some citations later
Sure, that would be cool.

>>18462334
i'm >>18462327
yes i agree and if he became fat i wouldnt be happy with it either. But a little bit of fat is somehow sexy especially when he is comfortable with it.

>>18462336
if this issue can't be cured, go your way and never look back. It's the best recipie for a horrible marriage

>>18462347
thanks. Sounds bad though

>>18462319
If that is STILL the situation and you have no new facts or concessions, then there is usually no point to further talk.

You could work on this situation better with a fistfight or a competitive marathon or a gamble, at least that's an alternative approach to both reaffirming their already clear positions.

im a no life faggots that instagram stalks a shitload of people and while i delete my search history i cant delete the friend search history
how can i delete it too?
i mean if i stalk girl A and girl B and girl A knows B if i just type the first letter instagram says GIRL A is a follower of Girl B then those people will know ive stalked them if someone actually grabs my phone

>>18462282
I have no idea. My boyfriend is exactly like this. Whenever I tell him that I am (reasonably) hurt or disappointed he just either acts passive agressively or he just walks away. I don't believe in the ''Do unto them what they did to you'' mentality but it is sometimes quite tempting.

If she never wants to see me again, will she have the guts to delete me off Facebook

>>18462204
U fucking queer i hope u get raped by a fat mexican

I'm 22 and never had sex, I just lacked opportunities, was never even half decent looking, it took me until now to fix myself up and be ready but I feel like it took me too long and I no longer want sex because it may be 'fun' but because I don't want the shame of never having it, like I could finally relax and focus on developing a relationship once I have sex I feel.

Do girls look at sex the same way? do they have a problem being virgins when they're 20+?

Why are you so cruel girls
Why
A man can do 1000 things right and fail 10, but you will dump him even if he fails one

>>18462397
> Whenever I tell him that I am (reasonably) hurt or disappointed he just either acts passive agressively or he just walks away
It's surely great that you're not being passive aggressive with the whole "hurt and disappointed" thing. Heh.

Also, it's almost like him acting passively aggressively doesn't solve the issues at hand either. Good thing that you blame him for not endlessly continuing this and walking away, though. You surely must be in the right at that point.

>>18462425
What do you mean? I just honestly tell him whenever he does something to hurt me. Like not calling me on my birthday while he goes out to drink with his friends.

>>18462326
>People are scared of changes. Both posite and negative. Also accepting going on date requires balls. Her evading question means she has lost them. Wait 48 hours and ask her on date once more. Then forget about the bitch.
>>it could have been worse
Yeah, I guess you're right. I might skip hitting her up again and just drop it altogether.

I guess I'm just mad at myself for thinking she'd be any different...

>>18462431
And that's like five to ten sentences including your feelings and the proposals what you hope you might do now, such as "let's have a fancy meal together at lunch or dinner on our birthdays".

And he probably answered you in some or another way. And apparently it was not something you liked, so I guess rather than another proposal that might be acceptable, you went into passive aggressive mode, he did, and after a short while he noticed it's just pointless and walked away. Or so it sounds.

Maybe try making acceptable proposals. Or accept that you can't find common ground for some things.

How come I don't find any sexually frustrated girls? Do they just masturbate and don't make an uproar like some of the guys do?

me and a friend went out to a bar last night but we were kind of fed up with work so neither of us took our phones with us. we thought we were just going to get some drinks - monday night, who goes out on a monday? we expected empty stools. apparently the place was having harry potter night or something and it was flooded.

anyway we met a group of three girls. we started talking and me and one of them went to play frogger, she showed me her full metal alchemist tattoo, we sat at the bar and she explained how to play rugby to me and even bought me a drink at the end of the night. since i didn't have my phone the idea of asking for her number never crossed my mind and before we knew it was late and time to go.

it was pretty easy to find her rugby team on facebook and from them her. so would it be creepy if i added her?

>>18462456
>How come I don't find any sexually frustrated girls?
My best friend once told me and my boyfriend to please find her someone to fuck because she was so desperate. Lol.

Anyway - there are sexually frustrated girls. We have lower sex drives and are less testosterone-driven.

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>>18462458
>she showed me her full metal alchemist tattoo

>>18462460
How low though? Aren't there other sex hormones apart from test.

>>18462465
Yes. But female sex hormones make you horny when you ovulate and can actually get pregnant. Testosterone makes you horny whenever, and it is usually a more aggressive kind of sex drive.

>>18462461
yeah i know but it was harry potter night - what kinda girls would you expect to be there. anyways she was pretty cute, but yeah a fma tattoo is weird. i told her i like gundam but she said it sucked

>>18462469

So, most women are only horny for a week every month?

>>18462472
There's nothing more basic bitch than being a potterhead. It's like calling yourself geeky because you like star wars.

what is a forum for lonely people where i can go and wallow in self-pity sometimes?

i like to do that sometimes (which is why i come to adv), but when i go to forever alone on reddit it's all people who are like "fuck people who insist on having casual sex all the time! they called me a prude!"

i want casual sex and i'm not some naive idiot who wants "to believe the best in people". i'm just awkward and ugly and i want a place to indulge in being that sometimes

>>18462477
/r9k/

>>18462472
i don't know what you're talking about, i don't know who gundam is, i don't like anime

>>18462476
THIS. those girls are always the most shallow fucking people you'll ever meet.

>>18462476
okay?

>>18462476
How do I avoid basic bitches? What are redflags?
In general, I mean.

>>18462456
> How come I don't find any sexually frustrated girls?
How do the girls you look at score? 4/10? 7/10 or better? Yep, there's your problem, the good looking ones get swarmed by presumably a lot of equal or better (by various attributes) guys than you.

If they're going for sexy time with someone else rather than a masturbation, they're apparently not going for you.

You'd probably have great success no problem with the 1-4/10 "nobody" wants.

>>18462480
lol they have the same shitty mentality, not at all what i'm looking for

also i hate video games and the culture surrounding it

>>18462486
>the same shitty mentality,
What, the reeee thing?

>>18462483
it's nothing to look for red flags for. being a basic bitch is so fucking obvious

maybe you're too basic yourself to see it

>>18462474
No, but while guys tend to be horny all day every day our sex drive fluctuates more and we tend to want it strongly just around our ovulation.
Obviously there are exceptions - I have a decently high sex drive, my boyfriend is more on the lower side of the spectrum.

>>18462490
>being a basic bitch is so fucking obvious
I'm not sure what kind you're talking about though. The girls who wear north face fleece and uggs are one kind

>>18462488
yeah i mean being angry at the world for having sex before marriage and wanting purity and the reee and everything. i want a community of people who are lonely and sad, but who don't come up with stupid excuses and consider girls whores because they have casual sex

>>18462494
You're not allowed to talk about women on wizchan so maybe try that

>>18462481
they why the FUCK ARE YOU RESPONDING TO ME u shitposting twat

>>18462458
Add her
If she thinks it's creepy, she won't accept your friend request
If she doesn't think so, she'll add you and you'll have an opportunity to talk to her

In the absolute worst case you'll have some girl you'll never meet again thinking "Hey, that guy was creepy". There's absolutely no disadvantage to adding her

>>18460953
I'd definitely be very wary and not get too emotionally invested until you clear up the air with her. Hate to be the cynic but it has all the signs of a rebound, girls rarely are the ones to initiate contact and if she shot you down 4 years ago and suddenly remembers about you she most likely either is feeling lonely, rebounding or just wants a self-esteem boost.

>>18462494
go on /lit/ everyone there is miserable

>>18462495
haha i actually laughed really hard when reading the description

i'll check it out, but honestly it seems like r9k without the women bashing

>>18462504
Well yeah it is. It's /r9k/ without the reeeing and the culture is slightly different

>>18462483
Biggest red flag is her not having any hobby

>>18462502
but do they discuss being miserable and not being able to score chicks (without hating on people who do)?

i used to go there, but i don't really read a lot of fiction

>>18462496
because i wanted to point out that it's cringy that she has got an anime tattoo

>>18462491
But if the guy does a lot of foreplay during one of your off days do you end up wanting it or will it just feel like a chore?

>>18462494
Expecting a full community to do that is much to ask. Free thinking communities will not just stroke your ego only, and very compliant ones may do that but then they'll generally not go against common morals.

Just deal with the more free thinking ones that, for example, feature people like me who don't get how you'd even have trouble actually getting casual sex as woman if you just are merely okay in looks (for which it is generally enough to be halfway fit).

>>18462507
https://wizchan.org/dep/res/145147.html

but this is pretty much reeeeing, isn't it?

>>18462519
You're usually not allowed to talk about women on there
Then again I'm not a regular on wizchan so maybe it's tolerated now

>>18462515
It's rare for a girl to go out of her way to get sex daily, you can get a woman aroused every day if you want.
We just aren't as sex starved.

>>18462516
but i'm not a woman. i'm not sure i understand what you're getting at

>>18462521
thanks anyway man

it would just be nice to read some (relatively) level-headed reflections about having a depressive, sexless life, not counting actual literature

>>18462524
well, all three of my girls wanted it always. we would fuck 7 times a day, calming dow to 2-3 times after about two weeks after becoming a couple. Periods were no exception

>>18462524
But do you end up enjoying it after foreplay even though you are not very keen before it?

If you are guaranteed an orgasm at the end why do you still shy away?

>>18462530
why did u want to ask this to the opposite gender tho

>>18462524
> We just aren't as sex starved.
Hm, I find that it's about 3/4 the same thing as with men.

Now, if any average or better looking could merely wear a nice slightly "revealing" but still perfectly fashionable shirt and we'd get surrounded with women aiming to get hooked up, we'd also seem a whole lot less desperate.

I think that's the main difference. Heh.

>>18462534
First 6-12 months of a relationship don't count. You're basically high.
It's rare for a woman to want sex multiple times a day after years together.

>>18462536
I feel like you are talking about a specific woman and expect me to decipher her.

Personally, I easily get aroused even before foreplay. Emotional and physical intimacy do it for me. I don't go in because I am "guaranteed" an orgasm. I don't shy away.

>>18462538
i didn't, i just used this as a random questions thread because it would be a shitty thread to start

>>18462546
>6-12 months
come on, later you can actually start thinking about marriage
I would agree with 2 months max

>>18462557
Don't know, was full on honeymoon phase for 8 months with my boyfriend.

I am going to assume there is at least one girl in the world that would like me. How do I meet her?

>>18462563
by monitoring /adv/ 24/7

Girls: if you had a short relationship that didnt work, and after a year your ex talks to you again would you give him a chance ? under wich circunstancies?

>>18462563
If you're somewhat sane in the head and somewhat fit - a lot more girls will like you.

You have to try to get a date with a bunch of them, or otherwise spend some time with them.

>>18462576
No. I don't want to have anything to do with him again.

how do i come to terms with the fact that my face is full of scars and red areas, and that i still get some big pimples (like disgusting, not ones the average person has) at 22?

i'm apparently too ugly. had a few girls who were interested as a teen, but now i've noticed i never get a smile returned on the street or anywhere else when i'm not working

>>18462581
> scars
Not usually a big problem. YMMV if half of your jaw is missing.

> big pimples (like disgusting, not ones the average person has
Medical therapy?

>>18462590
but it makes me ugly... also, my skin in those areas is very reddish and just looks bad

well i don't think it's bad enough for accutane, i got the gel once

How do you act around someone when you dont approve of their behaviour and they're in your friend group? Am i too uptight?

There's one girl in my friend group who's cheated on her boyfriend(who was not in our friend group) and slept with another person ,while knowing that other person already had a gf. Some friends know about it and admit she's sketchy, but dont seem to care, since they hang out with her anyway and admittedly, this girl is fun. This girl seems to like me a lot(im a girl too) so I just stay friendly with her but i never hung out with her alone. Sadly she's fun and we would be good friends if she wasn't insane. But it seems like me and one other friend are the only ones who dislike her and try not to spend time with her?

Maybe i care too much about this and should just hang out with her and have fun? I just think its sad and bad to cheat on others.

Also this is college and it sounds so juvenile

>>18462590
>>18462593
the scars are from bad skin btw, not accidents or smth like that

>>18462576
I'm a guy, but I can still take back all of my exes even if they have a bf. If you're a real nigga, you can too.

>>18462593
Again, don't worry much about scars unless they're very extreme.

It's full deformity and signs of active illnesses that turns almost everyone off. In that sense, yes, "disgusting" pimples can be very much a problem. Also, are you perhaps overweight? That'd be a bad combination.

Ok, so she dont respond to me after first date
Its been 6 hours now
Will she ever respond? Give very honest estimations, I need to get my hopes down

>>18462605
i'm a bit overweight, but that started happening during the last year. it wasn't really any different before

i don't know what to tell you, my skin makes me uglier than almost everyone else. the scars might not be deformities, but especially on a sunny day my face just looks terrible

>>18462597
well, it's highly moral and very chivalrous of you to care about the benefit and wellbeing of the group before your own.
On the other hand - people change and deserve new chances from time to time.
If I were you, I'd ask the members of the group whose opinions matter to you. If they don't care and consider it to be of no harm, you aren't hurting anyone at this point. Thus there's no problem with hanging out with her
Perhaps talking with her about it could also accomplish some beneficial change in her behaviour.

>>18462603
How do you do that? im not an expert in women

>>18462610
Dont be so pushy, give her a day.

>>18462603
sure you can, kid

>>18462597
> I just think its sad and bad to cheat on others.
Unless you're directly affected, it's not really your problem who other people choose to fuck and how often. Unless you think you can obviously have a positive effect of sorts, don't get in between people.

If you can't help but feel threatened or jealous of her sexual prowess, I guess you also don't want to get close to her in an attempt to be a platonic friend, it's more likely than not just going to be a stressful relationship.

>>18462613
> i'm a bit overweight, but that started happening during the last year. it wasn't really any different before
Try not to be. It's not that you'll get jumped on by wild packs of women if you aren't fat, but you're still reducing your chances the less healthy you look. For most, it's just part of the instinctive evaluation of a partner.

> it wasn't really any different before
You still need to approach quite a few girls anyhow, on top of that.

> my skin makes me uglier than almost everyone else. the scars might not be deformities, but especially on a sunny day my face just looks terrible
Well, I guess I haven't seen your face yet.

But even if it's a more terrible looking effect than I think it is, it sounds like you should be able to manage to cover it up with makeup.

>>18462615
Thanks. This does help. I did already ask one of my best friends--he didnt seem to believe that psycho girl really did all that bad stuff, since she presents very well and is intelligent. I think he excused it as being 'i dont know her ex, we all have problems, and she's not fucking with anyone i care about'. And my other friend is her lab research partner and cant really cut her out. He says she's fun but he wouldnt trust her with anything.

I honestly think she needs to get medical help since she's also using drugs but if i talk to her, it will implode as she's unstable when she's upset. I've gathered this from interactions and hearing about her. I wish i could help her but we are not close and i dont want her to lash out at me. Her own bff stopped talking to her for months after finding out the whole scandal but they are friends again so who knows.

I think i'll take the approach of 'she's fun but dont trust her with anything'. Really the only way she could hurt me is sleep with the guy i've been seeing .but if she does that, i just have a legitimate excuse to never talk to her again

Why do women have sex since most of them do it because they feel obligated to

>>18462641
i don't want to cover it up and then disappoint someone. also don't want to apply make-up every day.

don't know where to approach girls. fuck going to bars, at least in my shitty town

>>18462647
False premise. The vast majority wants to have sex.

>>18462626
That's true, it isn't directly affecting me that she sleeps with taken men. She probably has a bad time in general so i cant judge her like i am. I dont know any of them.However it is stressful having a relationship with that because then you dont know what else their morals are loose on or when the drama is gonna get bad.
You are right. I'm kinda threatened by her sex stuff since she knows the guy i'm seeing. But we are similarly good lookkng so i can get over it, and if he sleeps with her then he just wasnt a good man to begin with.

>>18462647
Pleasure. Orgasms. To please our partners. Validation. Intimacy. To get pregnant so you pay us child support. To make you stay.

>>18462644
well, using drugs is fun. I have a genius friend who does ketamines. She's a studen't, soon to be a fucking perfect scientist if she follows this course. What I'm saying is that intelligent people are sometimes able to control their drug use. I also would never mess with somebody's personal life choices. But that's just my own philosophy.

Anyway, I still don't understand why would you call her a psycho for cheating on somebody. It's bad, sure, but psycho?

>>18462655
>To get pregnant so you pay us child support. To make you stay.

I knew it.

>>18462647
The better question is why do women pretend to not want or care about sex when they want it as much as men?

>>18462651
> i don't want to cover it up and then disappoint someone.
So like 80% of women would disappoint you because they do wear makeup?

> also don't want to apply make-up every day.
Well, if this only bothers you on certain days, then I guess on those days you don't apply any of the possible workarounds.

> don't know where to approach girls
It's not like there is a correct place. Just about anywhere, really. [That you don't necessarily do a whole date's worth of talk in front of a shop but instead go see each other somewhere at another time is obvious, right?]

>>18462661
Women don't want sex as much as men, at least not on average.

>>18462622
Its been 3 days since the date and 6 hours since the message and she seen it
I wonder... Is it normal for you girls to just ghost someone after a date, even if it was enjoyable and we made a lot of plans to hang out in future? Like wtf I dont understand
I will wait till tomorrow but 90% I dont believe she ll respond ever again

>>18462662
>So like 80% of women would disappoint you because they do wear makeup?
not that anon, but fucking yes. I hate makeup in any form, it just uglifies the woman

>>18462662
yes, they would, if they had big scars and very reddish faces underneath. the thing is, it wouldn't make me feel more comfortable as long as my skin is still bad underneath. also it makes bad skin worse

i've never known anyone who has ever approached a random girl on the street. everyone that i know about found their gf at school (high school/uni/whatever), through sports, work or whatever. what i'm trying to say is that girls wouldn't appreciate that here (from a nordic, very private country)

>>18462668
Probably not as much, but they still want it. Sex is still framed as something women do out of favour for men pretty much.

>>18460933
Describe "hit on"

>>18462679

>Sex is still framed as something women do out of favour for men pretty much.

I hate this mentality and it makes me depressed for some reason. ANy help

>>18460953
>I know the best way to settle this is communication

True. Just don't think too much about it, be spontaneous and talk to her

>>18462684
I'm with you sister

>>18462684
It's beneficial for women to have it framed like this, so why are you complaining?

>>18462693

Eh, I don't think it is. I am not keeping a scoreboard. I always end up enjoying it alot even though I may initially not be too keen on it. I thought all women were this way

>>18462669
Its not your fault, she prob had a good time but went home and realized she didnt feel a connection, didnt actually feel strongly about you to go through with more plans, or that while you are nice, she didnt want to pursue it. Maybe she wasnt over her ex. Who knows

Everyone does this so dont feel sad about it. Keep looking for a right girl

>>18462696
I mean in general, this way you guys hold the supply and men are the demand so you get to be pickier than guys.

Also it makes a lot of guys work extra hard in bed to make sure you enjoy it since they feel like they're getting the favor here.

>>18460933
Looking is fairly normal. We are visual creatures. But anything, ANYTHING more than that (flirting, approaching, etc) is over the line and shouldn't be tolerated. Feel free to show him these responses, because he shouldn't be doing that in front of you.

>>18460973
I can already tell it's India or China.

Look, as long as you've gotten what you want, don't give a fuck about the actions of cheaters. It sounds like you've gotten yourself into a position most Americans would love to be in and have achieved quite a lot. Don't stop now, just put more effort into enjoying yourself beyond your work/studies and you'll be successful and happy.

>>18461079
Start being conscious of it when you are doing it and try to stop it. Apologize when you spot it and make an effort not to do it again.

You've made a first step by asking others about it. Now make the second step, and the third.

>>18461300
Usually a genuine conversation or two in a relaxed setting is all it takes. Visual attraction? Check. Now we're talking, personalities match (check) and she seems cool to be around? (check) Lets do this.

Guys help please!
This courtship is bloody mental. It's all happening in the wrong order, I feel like our romance is a fuckin James Joyce story.

>start sleeping together casually
>he says it's going too fast and wants to slow down
>I get pissed off and tell him to fuck off
>see him a week later and we end up hooking up again
>smoke a load of weed
>keep hanging out with emotional openness ups and downs
>he says I love you
>also says let's keep things slow and enjoy the moment

So I want to ask him if we're monogamous, if we're bfgf but I don't know if I'm allowed. Also we never have text convos just irl. Help?

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>>18462733
Now mine

For the women: I dated a girl for close to five years. We went through a lot in that time, but always came out stronger. She was sick but got better thanks to my advice. Last year, she started doing really well in school due to getting better, went into an engineering program, and got friends. I was happy for her. I was struggling now though, finishing a tough degree and working on my career.

I genuinely thought I was going to marry this girl, and she knew that. She asked me about it many times in the past. But over the span of one month she basically up and leaves. Then come the texts.

>do you think we might ever get back together or no? I'm scared I made a huge mistake

I answer maybe, not anytime soon though (felt angry/hurt).

>1 month later, post my graduation, jokes about having a dumbphone because she no longer needs to send nudes. Asks how my sex life is.

I answer that I am indeed plowing someone, out of anger again. She asks all kind of questions and wraps it up with "good luck anon with the sexcapades!"

>starts snapchat drama with my friend, tells me hes borderline flirting with her. (My friend isn't the most attractive guy).

>Later tells me shes transferring to a well-regarded engineering school to major in E.E. and be with her friends

>Later calls, tells she slept with someone and has tested positive for chlamydia. Asks me to get tested "just to be sure".

>Later calls, other dude tested negative. I freak out and rush the test results, I'm negative. Someone's being fucky, dunno who. Tell her, she basically goes "what the fuck?" then basically wants to drop it and forget it.

>Goes to school hour and a half away, still texts, asks my opinion on her major, wishes me happy birthday, etc. I still don't text her, it's always initiated by her.

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>>18462759
>Thanksgiving comes around, I ask to meet up. She agrees. Day comes to meet up, hear nothing from her. Ask why later, she wa really busy and forgot to hit "send" on the text message telling me she couldn't make it.

>December comes, more text asking about career, classes, etc

>Ask to meet up after Christmas, we do. Goes well until she says shes with someone. Crushes me visibly. Tries being jokey and such due to awkwardness, goes on to joke afterwards about how "yeah, I get asked out a lot down there, I only said yes once though!" (big engineering school, 70% male).

>wtf why would you say that

>Leave

She's since texted me three times more over the last 6 months, including once asking "are we on ok texting terms or do you need some time?" but I've never responded, and don't intend to. She owes me close to $2000 for the community classes I paid for, but I doubt I'm ever getting that back.

What the fuck happened here? I know I was stupid and shouldn't have responded to anything from her immediately after we broke up, but it was 5 years (basically age 21-26) and I had no idea she was at all capable of this behavior. It's legitimately left me asking myself if I did something to piss her off, and honestly, no, I didn't. I tried to save this relationship at every turn, she was even crying while breaking up because I'd "always been really good to her".

It's left me really scarred towards women and relationships in general. If I couldn't see this shit in her, how can I see it in someone else?

Basically

>What the fuck happened here?
>Why would she act like that?
>Honest question, is this relatively normal for women?

Finally:

>How do I get the anger at her, and the sadness at losing what I had for 5 years out of my head? I don't feel capable at all of entering another serious relationship right now.

>>18462745
you already posted this before
you were answered.
you have the right to ask anything
both of you have the right to delay the answers if you simply don't know

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>>18462745
Unless you live in some bizarro country, it should be totally fine to ask him to clarify his idea on where you stand. I'm guessing you want bf/gf? Make your desires known. A few weeks to a month is more than enough time for someone to make up their mind.

>>18462674
> yes, they would, if they had big scars and very reddish faces underneath. the thing is, it wouldn't make me feel more comfortable as long as my skin is still bad underneath. also it makes bad skin worse
You can let anyone know on the first date. But I guess if you don't want to do any of this - really, I have no better ideas.
It increasingly sounds like you'll just have to get a medical expert to fix that issue.

> everyone that i know about found their gf at school (high school/uni/whatever), through sports, work or whatever.
> what i'm trying to say is that girls wouldn't appreciate that here (from a nordic, very private country)
Beh, I've been all over the world. Humans have been around longer than sports clubs, they still act ~the same way if attention is given.

But if you think your country is even more private than mine and that you really need to follow its rules - then I guess you must play by the book and get into sports clubs and volunteer work or whatever you say is the way to meet girls.

>>18462653
>he probably has a bad time in general
I'm going to guess you'd be even more bothered if she *only* had a great time.

> However it is stressful having a relationship with that because then you dont know what else their morals are loose on or when the drama is gonna get bad.
I was thinking you'd be too bothered by already obvious character attributes. But if not, that's good. Maybe you can get along.

You never know "what else" with anyone you haven't known for a long time. No, it doesn't work that if you have loose morals on sex and drugs, you'll also have loose morals on murder and genocide and racism.

Likewise, some Christfag that seems initially like a nice altruist can turn out to be really, really terrible on a closer look.

> and if he sleeps with her then he just wasnt a good man to begin with
To me humans aren't strictly monogamous in terms of natural instincts.

But it really doesn't mean your BF or you are automatically going to be attracted to that gal even if others are.

>>18462134
Make up doesn't matter shit. It makes women look better when applied well but the primary result is that standards for female appearance go up, not that women as a whole are suddenly considered more desirable. Men have been lusting after women with bushes and fucked up teeth for centuries and did just fine.

The real reason why women have more worth in the dating market is simply that men are thirstier and want/need sex more. This is also the reason why they shower average girls in compliments.

>>18462829
how much more exactly.

>>18462693
>>18462725
This isn't true. The being pickier argument is doubtful because women at the same time experience pressure to not sleep with as many guys as they could and would like to - especially those who have a strong sex drive.

As for guys putting in more effort, they put effort into getting laid. Especially for casual sex once they're in, they've made it and they see jackhammering as their reward. There is typically little regard for foreplay in one night stands and blowjobs are lots more common than eating her out. Plus almost 100% chance at coming while for women it's hit or miss whether they get an orgasm out of it.

>>18462816
Hey i think you misunderstood me since i already agree on some of your points

I meant mental health wise, she's having a bad time, and i think she's aware of it but chooses to ignore it based on things she says. i dont mean how much fun she has in general, she probably has a lot of fun and i dont care if she does. Even if she's happy fucking up people's relationships i'd still think she's having a bad time because obviously you dont do that unless you're fucked up in some way.

If she has loose morals on sex it doesnt mean she has loose morals on genocide. But it certainly means she's more disposed to shitty drama inducing actions, and she's showing me that, so why would i ignore it? Its true you never teally know people sometimes but she's literally telling me she will fuck with people and keep doing it

We may not be naturally monogamous but i have boundaries and i will not stand for anyone i love cheating. We arent animals, we can control outselves. Natural instinct is no excuse for breaking trust. Polyamourism is fine if all parties are aware but once you start to sneak around...Idk if my bf is attracted to her but she's certainly his type. I wont dwell on it though. Let's say he does cheat, well, there are certainly men to be found who wouldnt cheat on me.

>>18462836
To be fair, I worded it a bit more simplistically than I think does justice to reality. For one thing you see that when people get older, it becomes much more equal sometimes even to the point of men drowning in pussy. I did not mean to imply that women don't have a sex drive but first of all they are encouraged socially to shoot guys down and be selective. By far most men want a woman who limits herself and sees him as good enough where other men were below her. For a man getting laid often comes with an ego boost regardless of how much he enjoyed the experience or the particular woman. For a woman it's rather the other way around, biologically she risks pregnancy, being penetrated is a more vulnerable position and if you look at social norms she is going out on a limb by acting on lust.
Secondly testosterone is linked to sex drive. Men with lower testosterone lose part of their libido and the women with the fiercest sex drives tend to have above average testosterone levels. So this would be at least an indication that most men naturally have a somewhat higher sex drive than most women... And then there's also the part where it is simply easier for men to get off and have an at least physically satisfying experience. A woman can be the dullest fuck in the world and most men would still be able to have an orgasm from her, the other way around not so much.

Exactly how big the difference generally is is impossible to say though, and at the end of the day you deal with two individuals and not statistical patterns.

>>18461367
Give her and yourself some time, the friendship is probably salvageable just alright, but you guys need some time away from each other and most of all - you need to get through your head that you got rejected and accept that. Ignore her for now, finding other girls friends or a girlfriend will help a lot.

>>18460933
Checking out women is part of our betraying sexual psychology, but hitting on other women is not normal for someone in a relationship.

>>18462829
> Men have been lusting after women with bushes and fucked up teeth for centuries and did just fine.
Maybe we forget most of these women had to be "gotten taken care of" by their family using a very srs dowry bribe. It's even still that way in many places.

>>18462837
More chances at sex mean more chances at a relationship too. I know we men are seen as horny beasts that only want to pump but foreplay and emotional intimacy is also a huge turn on for us and makes sex much more enjoyable. Casual sex is nice, but sex with somebody that loves you and knows your weak spots is a billion times better.

Also I don't see how the being pickier argument doesn't apply, it's easier to be picky when you're the one being approached, this is fact.

Girls, your significant other's favorite prostitute is coming into town and he wants to go out to dinner with them alone. How do you react?

>>18462829
Hey I'm a man in the current year and I love myself some bush as long as it's clean.

>>18462851
But aren't there like 20 other sex hormones

For white woman. Do you like black guys? Not /pol/ or racebait shitposting or w/e

>>18462837
> women at the same time experience pressure to not sleep with as many guys as they could and would like to
Primarily by other women. Who wouldn't like it if the market of possible dates shrank a lot just because pretty took 10 men's attention.

> they see jackhammering as their reward. There is typically little regard for foreplay in one night stands and blowjobs
In other words, men have the audacity to only do the pretty damn tiring jackhammering whereas women do the comparatively easy blowjobs. Men should really also put a lot of effort into foreplay and eating her out.

Yea, fantastic. Any other wishes? Maybe you'd generally omit even the effort involved in a blowjob, too, given that you've already done enough by just being present?

>>18462867
What are you talking about? Dowry is historically paid for the woman, not for the man. Although to be fair this was also mostly because the in-laws of the man would benefit from her (she would take care of them when they got old while the man was working etc) while her own family would lose her around the house.

>>18462869
I'm not saying it doesn't apply, just that it's a mixed bag. It's not solely the right to be picky, it's the expectation/pressure to be picky and not be easy.

I know that many men also love foreplay but it is absolutely a thing at least for younger guys to think (perhaps in part because of porn, more than personal preference) that foreplay is noise. I've had more than one or two friends tell me that guys went straight from making out to penetration, and did not as much as touch the puss.

>>18462874
Thankfully I'm European and there's plenty men here who still appreciate it, I know it's not universal, just popped into my head as something that is a common turn off.

What makes a cock nice looking?
Or do you girls not care about that? I mean it Has no real importance for me but I know what a nice looking pussy looks like.

>>18462897
I've dated members of all the major races. Idgaf as long as they're hot.

>>18462910
Not circumcised

>>18462903
>Primarily by other women.
How can you unironically think this is not a thing men care about if you come here? The go to insult for a woman is a slut, still is.
Yes women often enforce it in practice but the underlying idea is that it makes you less attractive to men, otherwise it wouldn't have a sting. Just like men will sometimes use the dick size insult but if tomorrow women universally stopped caring whether it was 1" or 9" most of the effect would be lost.

It is not comparable. If there's no foreplay and she's not sufficiently wet, penetrating is the equivalent to trying to wriggle a limp dick up a vagina - only there's also pain. Sex simply cannot happen until she is properly wet, just like it cannot happen until the man is hard. It is not a favor to make sure she can actually fuck before you get to fucking.

Also giving blowjobs does not provide physical pleasure (and does hit the gag reflex) whereas fucking (tiring or not) is what makes you come. Still though I mostly enjoy sex when I am actively doing shit and have zero issue with either going down or doing anything else on a man. Was just pointing out that the idea that men bend over backwards to please some girl they picked up for the night is utterly false. They somewhat understandably feel like they put in enough effort to get her there to begin with.

Ladies,
Do women like the movie black dynamite and/or troll 2
Girl i like coming over 2marrow, said to surprise her with movie

>>18462897
Nope. I just date white dudes. Very white dudes.

Girls,

When you were a teenager did you go through a extreme masturbation phase or is that exclusive to boys?

>>18462975
Personally I was pretty damn old (nearing eighteen) when I realized how to masturbate. Then it took me some months to figure out how to make myself come, so before that I did have a phase where I masturbated ten+ times a day because lack of orgasm meant no decline in arousal.

I am sure that there's women who went through something like this but I do think it's a lot less common than for men. Also because it is more common for women to be late bloomers with figuring it out to begin with.

>>18462985
you're telling me you masturbated over 300 times before you managed to come?

>>18462994
Yeah. It's hard to explain but whenever the tension was building towards a real climax my body somehow shut down, I guess I'd get (subconsciously) nervous and suddenly I was completely out of it psychologically, trying to picture my fantasies disgusted me, the feeling physically was like that extreme sensitivity after you came. Just no pleasure, straight from enjoyment to weird dread.

Managed to force myself for the first time in the shower by letting it run and forcing myself not to back away. First experience was not that great, felt like my whole body got wrung out in a more intense than pleasant sensation. But afterwards I never had any problems at all. It was like I knew what was going to happen and what to aim for. Can take two hours or two minutes now depending on what I feel like.

I don't know how common this is but from talking to other girls online I do know for a fact I'm not the only one with this experience.

This is for ladies but you guys can answer if you've got two cents
So I just got off a "hang out" with this girl I met through a mutual friend, and I say hang out because it wasn't a date, but she wasn't really receptive to my advances. I tried to pay for her but she said it was fine, she didn't feel very into our conversation, and she didn't give a hug when we parted.

My problem is that I'm dating retarded and I can't really tell if she's just taking a while to warm up to me, or if she's just straight up not interested. We did just meet a couple of days ago, and according to my roommate she's not very interested in dating. I guess I just answered my own question, but still. What do you think ladies? My gut is telling me that she's not interested but I'm still hoping.

>>18462928
>How can you unironically think this is not a thing men care about if you come here?
Some care about that you're not following their religious laws or any number of things. NO men caring is not, however, what is implied by "primarily by other women".

The point is it's primarily women's jealousy sustaining the slut mentality. Without it, it'd be very viable overall for good-looking females to have many partners.

> It is not comparable.
It is.

> penetrating is the equivalent to trying to wriggle a limp dick up a vagina - only there's also pain
I'll blame all women for it when my dick hurts then. Damn for them not properly keeping me at just the right rigidity and sensitivity!

This is really fucking ridiculous. Even if it happened, it's your own god damn responsibility to tell your BF that you're currently in pain and/or not ready yet.

> Also giving blowjobs does not provide physical pleasure
Sure does. Same as kissing etc.

> and does hit the gag reflex
Yes, that's special, so what? It's your choice to give a blowjob to begin with. You could also give a handjob. Or nothing (he'll almost certainly rub himself to get erect for you if you don't wanna). It's ultimately your choice.

> Still though I mostly enjoy sex when I am actively doing shit and have zero issue with either going down or doing anything else on a man.
That's good - but if you can bring bad examples, so can I.

> Was just pointing out that the idea that men bend over backwards to please some girl they picked up for the night is utterly false.
The claim was a lot of guys put in a lot of effort., and they do. It was very clearly a lot of guys.

Doesn't mean it's the people you slept with.

>>18463007
She indeed doesn't sound interested. If she takes time to warm up that could explain not hugging you, but not so much not being into conversing to begin with. All of this combined with hearing she's not interested in dating... I'd let her go. Find a girl who reciprocates your attempts to get to know her.

>>18463004
very interesting. Do you think that this way of forcing orgasm might help some other people? For example asexuals, unorgasmics, etc.
>(inb4: I realise many asexuals are fine with their lack of sex drive. But some aren't)

I am currently dieting and losing weight. At what weight is it acceptable for me to start pursuing women? Ideally I would like to get really skinny but I want to start hitting on girls sooner rather than later.

>>18462913
word answer I'm happy about. I love white girls but never went after one because I thought I wasn't "black" enough. I thought white girls only liked black guys who acted hood and what not. but if it's just a natter of physical attractiveness then fuck it

>>18463012
>Some care
Again, we're on a forum visited by millions of people, predominantly men, all using slut or whore as the most common insult for a woman. Those aren't minority religious groups. Hop over to r9k if you are still not convinced.

If I ask a bunch of men if all other factors being equal they want a girl who fucked two men or twenty, they say two. Maybe if I ask enough someone has a kink for women living it up sexually, or someone has very little jealousy and hopes that the one with twenty partners is better in bed, but it's not the norm. Make a thread to ask if you really don't believe this.

>female jealousy
It's not hard for women to find sex partners if they are upfront about wanting sex and not picky. Regardless of whether they are good looking or not. This is not the root of slut shaming, if they wanted to get dicked by many men they could unless they were literally morbidly obese (hell, even then they could, if they aimed for a fetish community). They would just have to be able to deal with rejections as well.

There is a difference between pain occurring during sex or it occurring because you jam it in without checking if she's actually wet. Of course women should communicate about this but sex is also a team effort. I for one would not want to fuck someone who takes a stab in the dark and is not thinking about my experience until I actively force him to. And again that goes both ways.

>Same as kissing
It's not the same. Giving blowjobs can be fun and hot because you see your partner's pleasure, are in control of it, it is intimate to smell them there and what not. But physically it's not mutual and relaxed like kissing but rather straining.

>It's your choice
Of course, but that goes for everything. Just because you choose to do it doesn't mean it's 100% fun, just that you think it's worth it.

I did not make assumptions about your attitude as a lover.

Where i come from, women are seen as much more complicated than men. Is this a meme?

>>18463021
I strongly doubt it... I did experience sexual feelings before that happened (although it was harder to put my finger on what was and what wasn't a turn on to me than after becoming more in tune with my arousal) and interest in men. I do think that there's plenty of women in the situation I described but in a relationship and not realizing that part of their lack of enjoyment is that they haven't had a real orgasm and because of that enjoy it less. Part of the joy of feeling yourself get turned on is in knowing what that arousal is building towards.

Girls,

Do you only think about sex during some parts of your cycle or does it cross your mind everyday?

>>18463024

There is no ideal weight. You sound like those people who are all talk but no action. "Oh I will 'so and so' right when the new year hits" or "why start now when I could it at on Monday when the week is fresh".

There is no right time to do anything that can change your life and the moment you are not approaching girls now, could mean the difference of meeting the one or not. Btw why should you be a finished product when half the girls out there are totally not finished themselves. Guys always see the outside but never consider the inside. We might looks nice and bubbly on the outside but we could be miserable bitches with many problems that you don't know about. Go out there dude and make it happen.

>>18463058
I have also only slept with one person, who was absolutely grand to me (and I know he felt the same way about me). Then again we also loved each other so it isn't really comparable to a nervous drunken hook up with a stranger.

Out of all the friends I've had who hook up regularly, roughly two thirds quit doing it for the sole express reason that it was too common for them to get nothing out of it. I recognize that a lot of pressure is put on men to single-handedly make sex good, and I don't know what my friends behave like exactly. Still this stands out to me and I can very well imagine that after going down on the guy only for him to fuck her for a bit, have his orgasm and talk about how it's time for her to leave, left them pissed off. And these aren't desperation lays btw, I'm talking pretty, attractive, slim girls who most men would fucking love to get some time with.

I am sure it is overall different in relationships and the biggest factor here is that it is simply not as easy for women to get off. But that in itself makes quick and dirty sex less fun as a prospect.

>>18463059
I think it is in part. If you read some of the literary classics you see the full range of human emotions, inner contradictions and whatever else you can imagine depicted vividly by men. That isn't because men are simple creatures. I also think men get away with less vagueness and emotions than women, they are expected to be more upfront and "what you see is what you get". So I feel they also suck it up more often and play off something they do care about.

Having said that I don't think it's complete bullshit, mostly because women go through more socialization (look at how female autists tend to get much better at covering up their signs because of the more expressly emotional nature of female friendships) so they in some areas expect more nuance and etiquette than men do. I feel this is more a difference in communication and social expectations than a difference in your inner being, though.

>>18463076
Every day.

Girls and Guys,

Is Dostoevsky any good or is he just a meme for people in order to feel intelligent.