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GUIDELINES:
Before you post a question, check the FAQ to see if it's already been answered.
Keep questions short for more answers.
If you're not going to like honest answers, don't ask your question.
And please no derailing arguments.

FAQ:
>Do girls/guys like <insert specific look>?
>What do girls/guys think about <an insecurity including, but not limited to: looks, physical traits, personality traits, virginity or otherwise lack of dating experience>
There is no one answer. Preferences differ, but complexes are always a turn-off.

>I'm shy and afraid of people/rejection. What do I do?
Get over it by practising and exposing yourself to it, little by little, step by step. There is no single magical moment that will instantly change you forever.

>I like someone. What do I do?
>How can I tell if someone likes me?
Ask them out.

>Where do I meet girls/guys?
Anywhere outside. Or online.

>Someone did something insignificant. What does it mean?
Nothing significant. You're overthinking it.

>XYZ happened. Interpret this for me please
We're not in their head, we don't know.

>This person did something that hurt my feelings. Why do guys/girls do this?
Because shit people are shit people. It's not a gendered thing.

>Someone has made it super clear they're no longer interested in me. Do I still have a chance?
No.

>Where do I go on a first (or subsequent) date?
Pick one or more of the following: coffee, lunch, dinner, drinks, ice cream, movies, zoo, aquarium, museum, art gallery, <activity in your city>.

>Brandon, that guy who keeps asking about cuddling in platonic friendships, fart guy and the guy who stuffs his pants
Fuck off
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>>18359459
Sorry, reposting because I arrived right at the end of the old thread.

Girls: There's a chance my gf and I might run into the guy that leaked nudes of her online at an event tomorrow (a guy she hasn't spoken to in half a decade but who was the only person who could have had those pics). She's telling me to just ignore him if we do, but I want to punch his teeth out or at least tell him I'm going to. How should I proceed?

I know nothing positive could come out of violence but I don't know what, if anything, I could do to not let his shit go unpunished. He caused a lot of stress and personal/family problems to my gf with his actions.
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Men:
Do you prefer really girly girls with 'feminine' interests and appearances?
I'm not like that at all, I believe the most accurate word would be gamine (like Twiggy in pic related, or Audrey Hepburn or something). I also don't really like 'girly' things like hair and makeup and craft etc. I prefer playing music, reading, sport, video games, etc.

Yes, I posted this in the other thread but it seems to be dying.
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>>18359459
For guys, how big of a deal braker are kids? Would you ever date a girl who has children?
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>>18359469
If you punch him, will that really be punishing him? If you punch him, he will likely press charges, and you will be punished, leaving him with the last laugh. If you alert him to the fact that he still bothers you and your gf, is that punishing him, or is that letting him know that his actions successfully fucked with your gf?
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>>18359469
Are you even sure he did it? Any chance she could have given those pictures to others and just isn't being honest with you. Regardless don't start shit with the guy it's not really his fault your chick was a slut, if you give out nudes then expect them to be seen by whoever, that's the risk you take. If you didn't wang that then she shouldn't be giving out pics at all
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>>18359469
Don't start anything yourself. Maybe provoke him somehow. Clearly the guy is a shitbag. Sucks for your girlfriend that happened to her.
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>>18359471
That's personal but I don't have any particular preference appearance wise, I don't think most men have either. To be honest we care more about the body, and even then there's guys with all kinds of tastes.

Interests really can't be divided into male and female, tho, you enjoy what you enjoy and if anyone tells you that it's wrong then he or she's a jackass and you can safely discout their opinion.
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>>18359471
(copying from the previous thread)
I like them all. In fact, if you're ok with some survival stuff, it would be a huge, huge plus for you. Just don't talk to me about cars or sports and I'm fine.
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>>18359472
date? never.
But we can have sex and be friends.
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>>18359469
>want to punch his teeth out
>at an event
Have fun in jail, anon. She should have known better than to send nude photos. Anybody who even bothers to do that should expect them to be posted online, shared, or accidentally seen. Sure he's an asshole, but inserting yourself into that kind of conflict with a punch in the face is the worst idea.
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How can I tell if my friend is ghosting me, or if she's legitimately unable to answer?

This girl has spoken in such a way that it would seem like she genuinely cared for me as a good friend. But for some reason suddenly went silent. She agreed to something, I followed up, and she didn't reply. Asked for advice a day later, again, no reply.


FWIW, She knows I like her, but we managed to be more or less good friends other wise
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Girls,

What kind of things do you like in foreplay? What thing can you simply cannot get enough of?
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>>18359475
I guess you're right, still I wish there was a way to get back at him for that, but all I've seen available is some extremely nebulous stuff about claiming the pictures as intellectual property that seems worthless.

>>18359479
100% sure they came out of him or at least his computer, they were pretty old pictures (she was 18 already, so I couldn't even threaten him with going to the cops for him distributing cp).

>>18359480
>Maybe provoke him somehow
I thought about that too but I think he might just chicken out face to face.
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>>18359496
Kissing is the best. If I'm not wet, just kiss me more. That's it. I mean other stuff helps, but kissing just gets me hot. I love feeling him on top of me while he kisses me and licks my neck. He also does this thing where he'll finger me, but he keeps it very gentle and shallow, focusing on the areas of my pussy that drive me crazy
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Girls, posted on the other thread but could use some more pointers:

What are the signs that a girl might be bi? How can I find that out through observation and conversation without directly asking?

>>18359471
To be honestly, I prefer girls like that. Women with 100% feminine interests only are boring to talk to. I want someone by my said who I can engage in conversation and actually talk to, instead of pretending how interest I am on the new nail polisher colors.

Tbh deep down I trully believe extremely feminine girls have some kind of problem and fear of indulging in more masculiny interests. My gf is finishing Uncharted now and has played Dead Space, Bioshock and tons of other "male" games, but before me she only had played zelda, for instance. It's just that she never had the opportunity to try before and feared being shamed for it I think.
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>>18359496
Sucking dick
Sometimes getting fingered but only if the guy is good at it.
Having my breasts squeezed and sucked on or bit
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>>18359501
>focusing on the areas of my pussy that drive me crazy
??
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>>18359509
I like when he uses two fingers, but one finger on either side of my pussy (like rubbing the outside, not actually going inside me). If he does go actually inside with his fingers, he focuses on the very very bottom of it, which is fucking amazing. That's a big reason I like sex, just having that area stimulated rather than feeling him deep inside me.
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>>18359497
>(she was 18 already, so I couldn't even threaten him with going to the cops for him distributing cp)
releasing nude photos without consent is usally still a crime, mate
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>>18359492
So the best I can hope for is being a fuck budy since I have kids.

That sucks, are there any guys out there who would have a serious relationship with someone with kids? I have daughters I don't want to be a bad example to them and teach them to be sluty
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>>18359469
Do this
>>18359480

I don't know why you're asking this to girls though... I'm a hot headed guy myself, but if there's something I learned in years being like that is that it's not worth starting anything directly, because everyone who doesn't know the story will see you as the vilain and be against you.

Just stare into his soul every time you cross him. Don't say anything, just stare. Let him come to you or provoke you. You two know what's going on, but everyone else doesn't. Make him give you a clear reason for it in public, THEN you punch his teeth in. If it comes to pressing charges you have witnesses to your favor.
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How do I tell when women are attracted to me? I get seemingly invitive glances and smiles on a daily basis, but they can't all be into me, can they?
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>>18359454
>If you aren't willing to work on the issues, and/or if she's not willing to work on it, then it's time to give up. As long as both are willing to try and improve the relationship, there's a chance.
Thank you. It seems obvious now. I think I will keep trying.
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>>18359496
Tantric sex. Hard to really find people who are willing to try it, since it seems surface-level pornography is more influential in the US. That and tantric stuff is sometimes marketed as something you do as an experiment, not normal foreplay. I like the connection more than just doing sexual acts for the sake of sex, I guess.
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>>18359471
I pefer a sweet feminine woman, but I'm a manly man with manly interests whom, like everyone else would absolutely prefer to be with someone who has things in common with them. I also tend to like tall women and ones whom I feel can hang with me physically and mentally
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>>18359516
you can still probably get involved with some guy who also has kids.
My mother did exactly that.

Think of it this way: kids are expensive. men are unhappy to pay even for their own kids most of the time. And now you want them to pay for the ones they don't even share genes with.
It's basically some form of cuckoldry.
Not to mention that you are probably a bit less physically attractive now, that you are old enough to be a mother.
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>>18359523
.jpg's are never into you, nor anyone else
(except your waifu)
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>>18359535
Not that anon, but would you mind giving some pointers? Me and my gf do a lot of slow teasing, massaging and slow sex, which I think is borderline tantric, but I could hear a thing or two from someone into it for real
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>>18359542
I'm 27 mom of 3 still very in shape 105lbs 5'1" and I make my own money, my kids are well provided for I don't even try to get child support from my kids dad because I make more then him and knew I didn't really need the help.
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>>18359472
I'd date but only if I made enough to actually treat her kids to something every now and then, like it or not, you're also dating her family. Also I'd have to think about it, not for the reasons the insecure cucks on this site might think of, but because if it doesn't work, then I'd feel like I failed those children somehow.
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Women,

On a scale from 1-10, where does a man's sexual performance rank in terms of importance in a relationship?
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>>18359547
My favorite is some of the breathing exercises you can do when you're really close to one another - try breathing at the same time, or as one inhales, the other exhales. Kinda nice if you're sitting face-to-face or cuddling and lightly touching one another. An easy thing to start with is just to try foreplay outside the bedroom and have fun just being close to one another. Slow foreplay in the shower with some teasing, and having sex afterwards can be fun. That and just exploring other parts of the body that may not always be seen during foreplay, and varying touch as you mentioned. Arms, back of the neck, along the ribs, etc.

It's pretty fun if you have the time for foreplay, or if you plan to spend the night together. Keep each other interested for an extended period of time before having sex in the bedroom that night.
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>>18359550
that's great. in this case your chances are actually pretty high.

But remember there's still the evolutionary psychology. It doesn't really matter you have the cash, since it's not comprehensible by the primal parts of our brain. It is still percieved as a threatening situation for the male.
Then comes the time: you will spend less time with the (possible) children you're going to have with the new male. it's not good for his children. You're also going to give them less food/etc. (I'm still speaking about the psychology of our more dumb brain parts, not about what you'll actually do).
The list goes on. there are numerous disadvantages to buying somebody else's children together with the person to date.

Still, as I said, you can still be lucky. If you're as attractive as you say, you should be able to find someone
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>>18359546
Why are you being mean to me?
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Girls:

There is this girl at work. I like her, she likes me. But she has a boyfriend.

Everyone says they're not good for each other. They're always fighting, and he's always acting jealous and in my objective opinion, a little bit like a woman.

Anyway, is there a way I can subtly suggest she should leave him for me without coming across as scummy/jealous? Or should I not even go there?

P.S. She goes to college at the end of summer so I really want to make this happen, cause I'll probably never see her again.
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>>18359575
check the adress strip, sweetheart
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Can someone explain to me why I pretend not to care when someone is interested in me? I'm a guy btw.
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>>18359471
The ideal girl would be girly with feminine appearance and a few masculine interests.

>>18359472
>For guys, how big of a deal braker are kids?
Very big.
>Would you ever date a girl who has children?
Very unlikely.

>>18359583
Mental illness.
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why are golden retrievers so cute and why are they perfect angels?
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>>18359495
Anyone?
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>>18359596
Meme dog.

Plus over $1000 for a damn puppy.
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This is kind of a repost, but, how do girls feel about being called sluts/whores over (dirty) text? Is it too aggressive? Should I be softer? I feel like I would weird them out.
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>>18359596
Cats are cuter and proper perfect angels.
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>>18359591
Different anon, but I have been told I'm a good looking man, but I still have trouble believing girls are interested in me. What makes you think I'm mentally ill?
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Question for girls. My girlfriend recently has been insisting that I let her put make up on me. She wants to put on like foundation and stuff I dont know really. But putting on makeup seems really emasculating to me. Does she see it this way too or what other reason would a girl want to put makeup on her boyfriend?
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>>18359601
what? mine wasnt even close to that much.

>>18359617
theyre boring. you actually have to have personality and do things so that you have behaviors to judge
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>>18359620
Ask her why. Do you have any blemishes on your face that she thinks she needs to cover up for you?
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>>18359619
>I still have trouble believing girls are interested in me
>What makes you think I'm mentally ill?
Hmmm...

>>18359624
>theyre boring
It's better than being annoying, like a clingy girl.
>you actually have to have personality and do things so that you have behaviors to judge
That's some strange wording. What the hell are you saying?
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>>18359631
I have a little bit of acne, but no more than a typical person. Im not sure why she wants to do it Ill ask next time
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>>18359639
cats dont do anything off course they are angels. dogs on the other hand actually have a wide array of behaviors so you can judge them based off that. golden retrivers are angels when you compare them to other dogs
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So I'm moving and I'm having sex with this girl I like for the last time for a while.

What can I do to make it memorable for the both of us and what should we both try out? We are both pretty sexually adventurous
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>>18359639
But why does that make me mentally ill instead of just weird?
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Why would a girl be somewhat touchy on a date (but no kissing), say she had a good time, suggest we go out again, but then not text for two weeks before saying she's busy whenever I ask her out again?
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>>18359570
That sounds a lot like with what we do every once in a while. Like giving full body massages avoiding the main erotic zones, or making up rules forbiding of touching down there or keeping clothes on until we can't hold ourselves anymore. My favorite is when I go in her and we both try to sit still making out without humping each other's brain out.

It goes a bit on tease and denial territory I guess, but it's fun as hell having those variations to make sex less mechanic after almost a decade in our relationship
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>>18359709
too low self esteem has norhing to do with weirdness
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>>18359620
There is a huge push by the left to emasculate guys lately. Is your gf a liberal? If she is then yes, she will probably start trying to cuck you before to much longer. Either way that's really weird behavior and she should not be trying to change you or feminize you. I'd dumb her
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>>18359771
>bringing /pol/ to fetishes
come on
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>>18359715
She could be literally busy.
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>>18359771
Thats what I was slightly concerned about. I am extremely conservative and she doesnt really lean either way, she mostly has just adopted my opinions and beliefs.
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I'm afraid of losing a opportunity with the girl I like, and I guess I'm stubborn enough too still want a confirmation from /adv/ that I have no chance after she told me to my face she has no interest in me.
She was a big friend and did make sure to tell me multiple times how much of a wonderful boyfriend I would be. Now was she just doing it just to keep me on a leash?
How do I understand the difference between giving up because of insecurities and letting things go?
Is this just a case of "Someone has made it super clear they're no longer interested in me. Do I still have a chance?"?
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>>18359790
I'm too far from the situation to tell you that she doesn't like you, but it sounds like she doesn't like you.

Personally, the moment she said something like that to me, I'd drop the bitch.

You don't want to be a beta orbiter do you?
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>>18359790
Girls who say you'd be a great boyfriend are the same who have no interest at all in you. They usually say "I don't deserve someone like you" or some other shit like that.
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>>18359516
Not him.

But dating is a big no if you have young daughters. You should marry and leave a lasting, long-term, admirable decision imprinted in their brains.

I would have to be crazy in love with you as a person. I would have to respect the hell out of you and admire you, have serious chemistry with you and feel love for you. So no, personally I couldn't because of the aformentioned requirements. But I do feel this for a girl who sadly, has a bf. If she had a kid when I met her, and no bf or husband, or anything weird going on with someone, then yeah, I'd have asked her to marry me. So I feel it's possible for you.. if such a person already exists.
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>>18359577
Help?
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>>18359797
I was ready to lose her the moment I decided to do something about this shit. In no way I'm going back to betaland, I just don't want to give up before doing my best.
I do think she doesn't like me, however, so I guess there're not many things I can do about it.
Anyway, thanks for the reply.

>>18359799
Good point. Thank you.
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>>18359790
She was saying that because you're her friend and she doesn't want you to feel bad. She's not interested.
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Girls.

Would you date a blue collar worker or is that too embarrassing
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>>18359865

Blue collar workers are date-able.
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>>18359788
No, I understand she could be legitimately busy on all the occasions over asked her to do things but do I just keep continuing to ask? At what point is the ball in her court such that I should wait for her to ask me out? Neither of us are taking classes this summer and I know both of us have diminished work schedules. It's been almost a month and a half since our last date.
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do girls really care about dick size as much as /pol/ and /r9k/ lead me to believe? I've only got a 4 inch penis, probably a 3 and a half incher and I tend to be very insecure, seeing as 5' is considered average
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>>18359865
What's that supposed to mean?
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>>18359800
I was married that, my ex is the father of all my kids. He just became so unmotivated and I couldn't keep our marriage together. I don't want my kids growing up with a bunch of strange men around at all. I do want to find a long term serious relationship preferably one that leads to getting married. I've been signal for over a year and haven't talked to anyone at all. I think it I might just need more time. Just focus on my girls and work for now. It seems like most guys are really turned off my the idea of kids and I don't want anyone around who isn't serious
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>>18359888
When most people hear what I do they instantly think I'm a pleb because I don't work in an office
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>>18359898

They won't if they find out that you're a genuinely awesome guy
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>>18359898
What do you do, anon? Is it something badass, like tig inconel pipe?
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>>18359895
unmotivated how? do your daughters miss him? curious..

But yeah, if there's no going back, you should wait. Desperation leads to premature, poor choices.
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>>18359913
Define awesome guy
>>18359920
I work on boats and make them go to where they need to go
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Girls: I recently went to a big event with my gf that was probably not that well planned and I kept getting messed around, such as her giving me the wrong time to show, not telling me which building for almost half an hour and then changing her mind constantly about whether to come home with me after or go to the after party. She then made me turn around while we were driving to my place just to take her to the after party. I didn't go in, I just said goodbye and left. I haven't spoken to her since.

What should I do? This isn't the first time she's screwed up like this with me and I'm getting sick of some of her shit. Is going no contact since that night appropriate? She's made no effort to contact me since then either.
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Girls:
Where would you be most comfortable being approached?

I wound up going through a battle with depression in the wake of my previous relationship, but I've beaten it into submission and I think I'm ready to try and find another relationship. I was never really good at the whole talking to strangers thing, but I know that it's difficult to find people just by chance without reaching out.

For reference: I'm about to be in my last year of my undergrad, I'm an athlete, a cinephile, and I have an excessively dark sense of humor.
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>Girl I know is going homeless
>Apparently has till tuesday to find another place
>Can't really help her out but say if she can't fidn anything by tuesday i'll give her a ride to a shelter or something
>Gonna spring on her that it won't be free and that I want sex in return

Spare me the "you're a terrible person for plotting this" girls but in this situation, under those conditions would you succ my dick? She has a kid
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>>18359930
Fuck no. I'd leave immediately and tell everyone I know; file a report with the police if able. If I had pepper spray on me, you'd be getting that to the face if you grabbed me, too.
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>>18359583
It sounds like you may have some self esteem issues. If this is interfering significantly in your functioning, I would recommend seeing a therapist about it. It doesn't mean you are mentally ill, however.
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>>18359930
that just for a ride? no. there'd be a chance if you were allowing me to stay with you at your place but just for a ride to a shelter is 0% chance.
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>>18359921
Not really desperate just get lonely at times. I miss not having a partner.

He just never wanted to do anything anymore, nothing with the kids, hardly worked, didn't want anything to do with me. I really wanted to fix things so the would be back to normal but he was just totally checked out. The girls see him every weekend but he never wants to keep them over night or anything or to do anything with them. That's what finally made me go get a divorce, it broke my heart how uninvolved he was with them. I honestly to this day don't know what happened, if he decided kids and a wife weren't really what he wanted or what but I would have done anything to fix it if I could have. I wanted to have a family and for my kids to grow up with both parents.
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How retarded is taking a girl to a comedy club for a first date?
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>>18359930
what problem is it to find a goddamn shelter? every single police unit knows, for starters.

I'll spare the terrible person shit, as you wish.
but know that you are also stupid beyond belief
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>>18359958
Quite. Not only is it expensive as if you're attempting to show off, you're going to be a beta bitch to the comedian.
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>>18359958
Pretty retarded. If it doesn't hit you're screwed. A box office thrilla is a much better choice.
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>>18359958
Not at all if you know she likes that brand of comedy. I've never actually been to a comedy show and it's not my passion (I live out in the boonies), so I don't know a whole lot about what it's like, but I'd wager a lot of it plays on stereotypes and shock humor. Taking ANYONE to something like that without knowing they like it is a bad idea. If it's not an offensive/niche brand of comedy, then you're good. Pretty creative idea IMO.
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>>18359930
>he actually believes this will work
There are many outcomes for trying this and none of them will be positive.
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>>18359941
Maybe he was stressed or depressed? Did he try meds or anything? It's just sad to think that would happen without some other factor contributing somehow. Hmm. Yeah, I get lonely too. But I've been out of a relationship for 9 years and no piv sex, so if I can do it and basically go insane trying to avoid masturbation, so can you... or you'll find someone a lot sooner and not turn out as lonely as me at 31. I do wish you the best. And I'd recommend a local church or churches to see if anyones out there.
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>>18359961
>you're going to be a beta bitch to the comedian.
How so?
>>18359963
There's no chance to talk in a theater.
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>>18359970
I thought it was depression and tried talking with him about it but he didn't want anything to do with meds or counseling. I think it was just to much for him, I tired and did like everything for the kids but I think having so much responsibility just got to overwhelming for him. The whole thing was just really painful and sad. It felt like our family died. Your probably right about holding off on a relationship, even if it's lonely, it probably be best that it feel right with just me and the kids again before anyone else being brought in. Ultamitly I just want them to be ok.
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>>18359930
Don't giver her a ride, but tell her that she can stay at your place then you can fuck her and then kick her out.
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>>18359577
Anyone?
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>>18359992
He should have really given meds a shot..

Do you sometimes wonder if he'll behave like his older self again in the future again? And maybe he just needs to clear the hump introspectively(?)
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>>18359459
My dick is small. It sucks. It is 4 inches hard. Is this a deal breaker for you ladies.
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>>18360013
no need for the word "again" twice.. err
my bad
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>>18359958
I think it's a great idea but I love that type of thing. it's at least a little more creative than a typical movie.
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>>18360013
Yes I do. I wanted to stay married because of that. When we talked about separating tho he said I should just go throw with it and it just seemed like he wanted out. I didn't want to trap him in something he didn't want. I feel like I let my kids down and should have somehow made it work. I feel like I let him down too but it's just hard I didn't know what was the right thing to do, like maybe if I left he could be happier and not feel so tied down.
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Hi, Anons.

I come asking for a spot of advice from the men, I'll do my best to include everything but if I leave anything out I greatly apologize and will fill those in who care to know as the thread continues on.

Backstory;

Friday evening I had a mini-breakdown. I was in a D/s relationship and I'm not sure what triggered it besides the possible clash of birth control and my mood stabilizer, but the breakdown caused a lot and I do mean a LOT of tension between the two people I've come to love most in all my life, esp him.

I am diagnosed Bipolar, Schizoaffective, High Anxiety and as far as I know I am correctly medicated.

What had happened is that I learned the hard way that I do not enjoy sharing my partner with anyone else, and it always felt that he was hugging her more, cuddling her more, paying her more attention... Even though at the end of the day it was me he cuddled with.

He said that he forgave me, but he could not accept my collar anymore, which I was fine with because I didn't want to share him to begin with.

I apologized to both because as I stated above, I still love them and consider them to be my best friends and they called me the same. But now I feel as if he's ignoring me because either the breakdown scared him, turned him off, or whatever.

It hurts a lot, Anons.

But I know it's my fault because instead of talking about it I said: "I need some time to myself." and went to sleep for an hour and a half. They claimed they were worried and were starting to feel uncomfortable, almost as if I were milking the situation... Which I probably was, now looking back I cringe so fucking hard because I could have kept things just perfect if I didn't shut down.

But no. I shut down and ignored them because I didn't give a fuck at the time.

It wasn't my intention to make them worry or to cause drama by no means.

And I know it'll take a while for things to get back on the right track. (more in a moment, ran out of room)
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>>18359865
I absolutely would. Not embarrassing at all.
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Girls, how would you feel about going to an escape room on a first date?
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>>18360146
I had to look this up, so I think you'd need to explain it, but it sounds like a lot of fun, and a good way to see how the two of us work together.
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>>18360141

I also know it was my fault because I was the dominant woman in the relationship and I knew how he felt.. and it was my fault by that I mean I did not set ground rules. I just let things flow because I thought everything would be just fine. Which it was until Friday night.

My stomach has been in a terrible knot all day today and yesterday.. But it finally released some when I finally received a message from him in KiK.

In the past, I would get good morning texts. Now I don't.. Which leads me to believe that he's fallen out of love and is now with the other woman.

I'm rambling now, so I'll stop while I still can..I don't need to fall back into that depressive funk that I finally freed myself from.

But, what do you think Anons? I mean, what do I do? Do I just let them come to me - my ass is not going to beg them to talk to me - or just drop them both because it's all ruined?
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>>18360141
>D/s relationship
what's that?

and why is it him, who has anything to forgive to you?
if he did something with someone else, how could you break any rules?

and what is this collar stuff?
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>>18360142
Why would it not be embarrassing. Everyone looks down on me
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>>18360166
D/s is Dom/sub. BDSM stuff
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>>18360166
D/s as in Dom and slave; collars and all that ownership jazz that I've now realized is a load of bull.

>forgiveness

Well, he forgave the drama I caused by making him worry. I apologized for just the same for causing said BS.

I felt terrible when he apologized to me. Because honestly, he did nothing wrong.
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Girls & guys: I have some questions about cheating

>have you cheated before, if so why?

>have you been cheated on, and if so what helped you to recover?

I was cheated on a couple months ago. My ex moved on to another relationship with a different guy. I'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around what went wrong
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>>18360195
I've never cheated, no.

>have you been cheated on?
Yes. My last relationship. He cheated on me Twice and then expected me to get over it; he even went as far as to say it wasn't his fault because he wasn't in his right mind.

Sometimes it's not something you did, sometimes it's that person. Once a cheater, always a cheater. I'm sorry it happened to you, Anon.

The best way I can suggest to get through it is to not blame yourself and to not let it eat you alive... Don't be spiteful, because that means that they're controlling your emotions even when they're not in the picture anymore.

All you can do is keep on keeping on.
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>>18360195
No
No
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>As friendzoning gets an increasing amount of attention the dialogue around friendzoning has begun to change. The voices that recognize that women are people worthy of friendship and worthy of having their choices respected are beginning to dominate the conversation, and are delegitimizing the friendzoning phenomenon.

Do women really believe that there are guys who just want to befriend them?
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>>18360176
um, let's pretend that I understand it now.

First of all, note this: it's most likely that there are hardly any anons who know the stuff you're into. Don't really expect any deep, meaningful answers


But I can tell you this much - you are definitely too emotionally unstable to play such complicated games. Our psychology isn't build for that kind of stuff and it takes a lot of psychological resistance to come to terms with it.

I still don't understand why would you apology. Or why would you feel bad about it.
Just stop playing with fire and find yourself some nicer hobbies.
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>>18360237
I believe I have male friends who are only interested in me as a friend, yes. And if they're not and I don't know it, they're respectful of the fact that I have a boyfriend, which has the same result for me anyway.

So basically, I don't care. It's not my responsibility to manage guys' feelings and the friendzone.
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>>18360216
Thank you. As far as I know, I was cheated on once and she also expected me to get over it. That was really troublesome, I've let it fuck me up quite badly. I'm sorry it happened to you to, take care of yourself as well Anon
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>>18360195
I half did cheated, but it was way more complicated. Long story short she refused to call us two a couple and said things which made me think she's likely to abandon me and cheat on me herself.
So I just fucked someone before she had a chance.
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>>18360237
You got me, Anon. I mean, yeah when a guy sends me a message first, I feel friendly toward him and if he plays his cards right then I grow more interested as time goes on.

I mean, I can't speak for all women but I know that's me.

>>18360245
That makes sense. I know I'm mentally unstable, but I want to socialize and have relationships and all that jazz. It's almost like I'm going back every time I take two steps forward in improvement; it's extremely stressful.
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>>18360237
I'm one of those guys, with no interest to fuck 90% women I know.
please, give up on bringing here those memes
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>>18360251
maybe you are confusing "friends" with "acquaintances".
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>>18360265
Are you suggesting that I don't know who my own friends are?
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>>18360258
no problem with having relationships. Just don't play with ths d/s stuff (at least not before you clean your mind throughoughly. Maybe someone from the people who are into this can help you with it. But it's evidently not the two you mentioned)
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>>18360271
I believe true friendship is something more special. For example I hang out with people all the time but I have only 3 true friends.
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>>18360279
Okay? That's your belief, not mine.
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>>18360237
I have a few female friends and I have no interest in them beyond being friends. I consider them to be "just one of the guys" essentially.
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>>18360276
Well, I know that I'm not going to touch the Dom/sub lifestyle anymore. I wasn't sure that I couldn't handle it until I tried it. I hate that it cost me the closeness of the friends, but what can I do besides wait it out?
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>>18360237
Yeah, because I have male friends who are just friends, my brother has female friends who are just friends. Just because you're so sex starved it's all you think about, doesn't mean that's the case for everyone.
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>>18360288
nothing.

congratulations, btw, you just basically cucked yourself. That's how it feels.
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>>18360300
oh fuckin' yay.

go me, lol
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>>18360171
I don't look down on you!
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grills, are any of you both
a) very traditional, want to be a housewife with a lot of kids, pro-White, etc.
b) an atheist
?
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>>18360351
I would marry such a girl in an instant
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>>18360357
yeah, I wish I weren't so autistic that I could pretend to be religious and easily find a good woman, it's so hard :(
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>>18360351
No. I'd hate to be a housewife, it'd make me depressed and unfulfilled. But I'm an agnostic.
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>>18360351
There are literally no advantages to being a housewife.
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>>18360351
I bet you're the sort of guy who insists on a prenup
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>>18360351
You are obviously very young, at most 18, and a dateless virgin. Don't worry, you will grow up eventually.
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>>18360351
Don't let these fags dissuade you, what you're looking for exists. My gf is pretty much all that, albeit not exactly atheist, but not a believer in anything specifically either.
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>>18360351
>b) an atheist
In time you will learn my son
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>>18360420
>my girlfriend fits that description
>except she doesn't
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>>18360404
Imo one partner needs to take care of the kids and house. I'd be a househusband if my girl made bank.
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>>18360425
>she fits all but ONE thing! DO NOT WANT
and you wonder why you're still single?
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>>18360410
no I am not a degenerate MRA/mgtow I am trad and looking for a kawaii virgin waifu to love forever

go back to getting pegged by a fat black woman and voting for hillary
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Sorry about putting this here, but the Get It Off Your Chest thread seems to be out of commission. So...

>dormmate (B) claims she wants me to open up to her
>we hang out a lot
>she claims she loves me
>so try to be more open about what I feel, etc...for example
>B's heavily boy-obsessed, half the things she says to me is boy-related or she’s teasing me about boys that a) don’t exist and b) I don’t care for, boys are boring to me
>decide to say so
>her: YOU THINK SO?
>me: I wish you would stop using those stock statements, it just feels so….demeaning? Some is fine. But if you say it half the time to everything I say it’s just…really?
>YOU THINK SO?
>why are you doing this, B? Please stop, all I wanna do is have a heart-to-heart…
>YOU THINK SO?
>get up and leave to my room, lock door
>hear her saying “I don’t know why anon is angry, she just got up and left!” to our other dormmate

Am I the crazy one here? Let me reassure you that she isn’t even the sarcastic/cynical type and that normally I’m pretty thick-skinned and don’t mind some things…like actually being teased. I’m trying to be more open and she’s just making it…so…so damned hard and it's so stupid but I can't help crying a little over this...
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>>18360426
You can split it you know.
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>>18360428
First of all, I'm not that anon. Secondly, that anon had two requirements. You can't claim your girlfriend meets both those requirements if she doesn't actually meet both of them.
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>>18360433
that is dumb

enjoy having your kids lose their virginity at 12 and get sold drugs by mexicans at a shitty public school
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>>18359472
If the father is dead, then yes.
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>>18359459
>be shy black guy in bus
>see thee thiccest asian girl sitting across me
>all shyness evaporates, i must meet this goddess
>random nigress blocks my path
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>>18360437
I don't want kids. But my parents split the work and we were happy.
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>>18360351
>a, yes
>b, no, Christian - although I don't like the "humanity started 6,000 years ago" shit
It's hard to find both unless you're ok with running into a nu-right 4/pol/ memer who isn't entirely behind the traditionalist or pro-White stuff. An atheist may still bend over on "humanitarian" issues, or disregard religious perspectives when they should be otherwise logically accounted for. That said, you may find an agnostic.

>t. full/pol/
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>>18360442
race-baiting faggot
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>>18360458
what?
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>>18360433
My parents tried share but it didnt work. My dad got back at 7pm usually and my mom had a job that involved a lot of traveling. In the end my dad quit his job.
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>>18360442
>being a creepy guy on a bus that approaches women
>being a black guy on a bus that approaches women
the other woman probably thought you were gonna "do nuffin wrong"
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>>18359472
>children
You are called single mom. You are the thing i am telling desparate guys who are ugly, manlets, forever alone syndrome refusing to grow up or improve to date.

No good guy will bother dating songle mom. It is almost definidion of cuck. Using your time and money to upbring foreign kids. I am sorry, but it is kind of your fault for having kids with somebody who wasnt ready to commit.

Your best bet is to try date single dads or some very patgetic guys. All decent one will flat out run once they learn about the kids or will use cum and dump.

Sorry.
>>18359895
Try online dating, put one photo of you holding your children and type there you wouldnt mind dating single father.

Sorry for your bad husband.

>>18359495
Just ask her to some social event. Use on text per day and after like week it will be clear she is either dead or blocked you.

>>18359505
Never mix up questions and answers.
And you can simply ask her.

>>18359523
You ask them if they are free at weekend and when they say yes, they are into you.

>>18359569
All you have to do is to learn how to make her cum via oral and be open to critique and have right mindset to learn.

>>18359577
Ask her on date dummy.

>>18359583
Mental problems. Try psycholog.

>>18359610
Majority of girls like to br dominated. Calling them sluts is bold move and ALL girls like assetive and confident boys.

>>18359620
Do it faggot. Google femdom and crossdressing. With a bit of luck, you are in for a wild ride. Some girls are really pervese. Explore her kinks with her.

>>18359707
Make her cum 5 times in a row. Make her beg for your cock.

>>18359715
Busy or lost interest. Hang in there and try to date other girls as well.

>>18359865
Having job is a sign of responsibility and being mature. Also blue workers ussualy have muscles and are rough. Things most girls love.

>>18359887
Learn how to make her cum via oral before you insert. She will want to see you again no matter how small your penis is.
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>>18360463
how else am i suppose to meet my women?
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>>18360468
Harlem
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>>18360463
Racist as it may be, I'd probably have my mace ready. I've heard way too many stories from friends who had shit happen to them on a bus by a black guy.
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>>18360442
Anon, she dindu nuffin.
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>>18360477
>tfw super hot lesbian friend who became lesbian because a black guy assaulted her on the train
>tfw she says shes attracted to me but is just to messed up to be with a guy after that
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>>18359471
>I believe the most accurate word would be gamine (like Twiggy in pic related, or Audrey Hepburn or something).
Not really my thing. I'm fine with a girl who skips makeup, but I prefer more feminine looks and short hair is a pretty major turnoff for me.

But at the same time I know there are a lot of guys who love that shit, so your mileage will vary.
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>>18360451
would you marry a culturally christian atheist who is just too autistic to believe in God and likes crusader LARPing?
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>>18360442
Based Nigress
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>>18359927
Looks like she is immature.
Consider finding girl which acts more like an adult.

>>18359929
Online dating, social events. But in reality, if girl is single and finds you good looking, even ficking street will work. Stick to social events and online dating.

>>18359958
50% retarded

>>18360141
A lot of relationships are ruined by threesomes. Break up and take this as valuable experience that even in D/s you want exclusivity.

>>18360195
Pic related. Try your luck again and find new gf.

>>18360237
See faq.

>>18360351
Stop reading /pol/

>>18360432
>>18360442
You have to be 18 to be here.

>>18360468
Social events, friends friends, online dating. Bus is bad place to date.

>>18360495
>christian atheist
What a combination. Next time say atheist with christian values. Sounds less like oxymoron.
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>>18360504
>18
Fuck. Off. I'm 20.
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>>18360504
online dating is a meme
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>>18360504
>Looks like she is immature.
>Consider finding girl which acts more like an adult.
It's a consideration currently. Am I immature for not contacting her since then though?
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>>18360351
>very traditional
This depends heavily on what you mean. I've met guys who say that meaning women shouldn't believe that it's okay for them to work or vote.
>What I want want to be a housewife
I want to be a homemaker bordering on homesteading more than pretty much anything else. If that is not financially possible I'd like to only have a part time job and make my primary job homemaking. Failing that I'd like to continue working with children or sell things I make myself. I also really want to be a strong cornerstone of a community and host parties/cook-outs for neighbors and friends.
>with a lot of kids
I want between one and three, more than that seems excessive to me personally.
>pro-White, etc.
What exactly do you mean by this? I'm not for affirmative action nor do I like how SJWs act towards white men, but "pro-white" just sounds like a way to sugar-coat the other side of the coin.
>an atheist
Yes.

I know a few other women who fit the bill too. Find women who work with children or are studying to do so. It's not at all a clear-cut sign but of those that aren't just doing it as a temporary side job in college quite a few women in that group will have similar feelings.
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>>18360495
Kek, probably.
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>>18360504
"christian values" are? only values unique to christians would be valuing christianity
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>>18360504
>What a combination. Next time say atheist with christian values. Sounds less like oxymoron.
I said "culturally Christian", you goober.

>>18360512
>What exactly do you mean by this? I'm not for affirmative action nor do I like how SJWs act towards white men, but "pro-white" just sounds like a way to sugar-coat the other side of the coin.
At a basic level, recognizing that White people have collective interests and that it is legitimate for us to organize in pursuit of these interests.
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>>18360507
But you still behave like a baby. Your ability to express yourself is very poor and your bird stabbing people meme is very poor.

Grow up. Read a book or something.

>>18360509
Sure, more and more people find the love of their lives there, but it is a meme. The key is to be patient and keep asking girls on dates in person. Thank to online dating you can meet each day new girl amd sooner or later find the soulmate you are looking for. And not just tinder exists. People expect to find love within hour on it. Which is fucking bullshit. Patience is the key.

>>18360511
Just send her text that she behaves like a fucking child and you break up with her. I bet she will try to make drama out of it. Ignore it and find new girl. This girl apparently has to grow up first.

>>18360514
Basically whole western world is based on christian moral values. Not cheating, monogamy, family over your interest, helping people who needs it. Sure it fades and a lot of people are assholes, but claiming to be atheist christian is very strange.

Try looking at muslims for example. Totally different in many aspects.
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>>18360529
>baby
Okay, elaborate on where I expressed myself very poorly.
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>>18360533
Moreover throwing the "you have to be 18 to post* meme at immature anons is also very poor.
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>>18360351
my mother is all that actually. Only she has but one kid, but I'd blame it on the socioeconomical situation rather than her desires, as she really likes children.
Sure, she's nearing her 50th year, but it's still an example
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>>18360529
I agree with parts (atheist christian is strange) but "not cheating, monogamy, family over your interest, helping people who need it" could be chinese - especially "family over your interest" etc
Not specifically trying to talk shit, a lot of religious values overlap is all
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>>18360432
have you tried with responding 'yesy, I do think so'?
also, how do you say 'do you think so?' IN CAPITAL LETTERS?
I can't quite imagine it. Did she scream at you?
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>>18360533
For startes i send two anons away as underages
>>18360432
>>18360442
and you failed at telling me which one of them is you. That is a start. Good thinker would realize this.

>>18360432
This one babbles incoherently about some scene which happened, unable to even describe what exactly is his/her problems, showing incapability of taking banter and simply cant communicate to his/her roommates. Also didnt say if boy or girl but that is crucial for things when
>she said she love me

>>18360442
Story with absolutely no point posting here. No question, no humble brag, no dilema. It is like watching news about how sun emerged at sky again around 6:00.

Tldr grow up and post problems reading for or go to boards like /int/ or /v/ where you will find poster of same thinking level as yours.

>>18360534
>poor
It saves time and i feel bad when certain super stupid questions never gets any (You)s.

>>18360536
Ok, fair enough :-)
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Girls, I know its different for everyone and maybe this is stupid but,
When you are on you're period do you want your SO to play with your breasts or suck on them?

Is it a minority who would say yes?
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>>18360504
Thank you as well kind Anon. I really don't want to leave them but... All I know is that I turn into a crying mess when I think about what could have happened if she did not make an appearance.

You have a good night.

Love you, Anons
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>>18360558
They hurt during my period, so I wouldn't want either of those things. Plus the idea of either of them without sex or related is strange and unappealing. A massage, as long as that was all it was, would be appreciated though.

In general women's breasts are more sensitive during their periods and more likely to hurt.
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>>18360558
I don't like either of those when it comes to foreplay in general, so no. Specifically if I'm on my period, I don't like doing anything sexual because I normally feel like shit overall.
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>>18360542
Yes. Several times. Sometimes I even said "Yes, I think so. Now what do you think?" And she stays silent. Again, it only bothered me because of how repetitively she tends to say "You think so?" when she should be continuing the conversation. The "you think so" wasn't playful at all. I know her playful tone and that wasn't it.

As for the caps, well, she says it in this abrupt, robotic-sounding tone. Almost loud. I guess the caps are mainly for emphasis. I apologize if they're offensive somehow...

In retrospect I guess she just had her brain shut off and wasn't really listening. I took it too seriously...fuck, she was even on her phone. She usually is on that thing the whole day.

>>18360555
>saves time
You're kidding, right? Wow. How is saying something much longer than (you) saving time?
>banter
No, not in this context. You sure your intelligence isn't the debunk one for thinking saying the same shit over and over is banter?
>boy or girl
Wow. I explicitly stated dormmates. That implies a same-sex dorm. Whew, I see your critical thinking skills are up to par!
>which one was you
I actually wanted to see you roast the other person too. Sue me.
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Girls, how do you feel about footfags?
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>>18360555
do you have your own problems or are you just helping us?
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>>18360091
I feel you did what you could. It may take some time, a long time, but he may snap out of it. Perhaps, and sadly I say though, that by then you may have moved on. Some people simply die inside. They want the world, but their little soul can barely handle a few choices. They want to become someone, but they go a lifetime undecided, or realize that what they wanted was different in practice than what they thought it would be; a lot more energy draining, time consuming, and plan cancelling than he thought perhaps(?) Or maybe it felt more like a chore than a simple hobby. Whatever it was, for all four of you, I hope he comes around.. I hope he realizes what he gave up and bounces back shaping himself into a better man. I personally don't want you to move on, I wish instead for that. That your daughters not end up with a stranger for a father. I don't know him at all though..
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>>18360578
>debunk
DEFUNCT. Gonna go to sleep now. Bye.
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>>18359883
Just keep showing her you are interested. As the other anon said she could be busy. If you really like her you will wait.
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>>18360578
no, no nothing's offensive. ffs, we're on 4chan. If there's one place where we can drop the offensiveness meme, it's this one.

I only asked, because you seemed very concerned about this and I couldn't quite imagine why.
And if she wasn't paying attention, just get over it. Go for a walk, let your emotions go away. Then talk with her and explain everything you said in this thread. That's it, should be fine.
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>>18359471
I don't really mind either way, but I wouldn't want to be with a girl who I have nothing in common with.
By the way, when I see a girl who doesn't dress very feminine and with maeup etc. every day, all dressed up for a special event, it makes much more of an impression than when it's a girl who wears heels and dresses every day.
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>>18360568
How do they hurt? Do they ache?
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>>18360578
>saying the same shit over and over
Yes, that is exactly the banter. If you want it to stop, stop giving her reactions and in time she will grow bored of it.
>same-sex dorm
Believe it or not, in my country doormates 18+ means almost all the time uni and there you can be boys and girls in the same room.

So again, girl, stop behaving like ungrateful pissed lady, tell your shit roommates that you wish them to stop behaving like shit because you will live together for a while and learn how to not take banter and jokes seriously.

>sue me
I will. Give me your laywer contact info.

>>18360580
See faq. Ask your girl about giving her foot massage and doing pedicure and other health foot stuff. In time she will realizr you like her feet. From that one step ahead is recieving footjobs.

>>18360582
Everybody have problems. My problems are small and i know exactly what to do, just the fact i am super lazy holds me back. Thanks for your concern.

>>18360558
Again, ask your girl, not /adv/. In my experiences, when girl is on period, it hurts her, she is super emotionally unstable (cries, 5 min later horny, 10 min later gets mad at you for trying to cuddle her and so on). Your best bet is to be in different room and minimize contact until she cools down. Some girls are able to realize that they are like that and force themselves to behave normal, but others dont think that hard and lash out at random people.

Not to mention what various BC does to the girl in combination of period.

Ask your girl what can you do to please her. And dont get buthurt when she says
>get out of my sight
:-)
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Girls: I've never approached a girl before, so any time I've talked to one, they came to me first. But the weird thing is it seems to be mostly girls I don't see myself getting along with. For example, this cheerleader tried talking to me a couple of times.

It probably doesn't help that I used to be quiet, pudgy, and have a good boy haircut. I look totally different now, but I didn't really change until after I got out of high school, so I can't tell if it was how I used to look that did it for whatever fucking reason.

I don't think I'm looking for anything, but I guess it'd be good to know how the wrong fucking people turn up sometimes.
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>>18360622
every time I see you attention whoring so badly I get angry

you are just plain stupid with half of those answers
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>>18360677
>50% answers are bad
>doesnt try his best to tell which and why
>doesnt answers the poor posters seeking knowledge and advice on dire matters on his own
>still gives me (You) instead of helping others or giving constructive criticism so some lurkers and me can gain new wisdom

What are you doing on /adv/? Shitposting? Anyway having 50% accurate advices in your humble opinion is like a praise to me. Thank you anon :-)

>>18360654
Not sure what have you tried to tell.
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>>18360590
Okay one last reply. If nothing else, talking it out is therapeutic.

>concerned
Hmm. At the core of it I just felt like she saw me as less than human, whose feelings are unworthy of being considered.
Flashback: last semester I was really fucked up. A tragedy happened and I felt suicidal. B told me that I could talk to her about my feelings anytime, that she's goofy but genuinely wants to be a help. That she won't shut me out. And then when I finally talk about my feelings she does exactly that: shuts me out. Opening up to someone only to be shot down and made to feel like nothing. That's what really depressed me...like, what? Do I have to be suicidal to get her honest attention? I don't even know.

My childhood best friend is very thoughtful, creative, never is repetitive with what she likes to banter about, nor does she say basic responses to everything ("you think so"). Generally she's the type of person who'd never brush you or your feelings off, but is also very playful and fun. Intense. Focused. So, yeah, I think it...agitates me on some level to be faced with someone so wholly unlike her. Maybe my best friend crippled me in a way; I expect others to adapt to me, but I should be adapting to them. Ugh. Lesson learned, I guess.

>>18360622
You're judgmental and you managed to annoy me, but you're being real with me now and I can appreciate that. Thanks. And you'll get my lawyer's contact info. My crow will shit it into your mouth next time you yawn.

>boys and girls in the same room
I kind of want to know how that works out but fuck it all I need sleep.
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>>18360237
Oh those crazy women.
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>>18360745
Sometimes women and men share interests.
Boom.
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>>18359459
How hard is it finding a girl who's a virgin with no tattoos, who doesn't drink or do drugs, and isn't fat? After talking to some girls I'm really beginning to lose any optimism. I'm dumb for even asking this here...
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>>18360769
Depends on how old you are.
The older you are, the harder it is to find someone who is virgin. Unless you want to date a high school girl, your chances are relatively slim.
Most people drink at least casually, most people in the US are fat, a lot of people do drugs or have tattoos but not most.

So, yeah - your chances are sort of non-existing.
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>>18360777
Am I really that much of a minority? If I was some ugly weirdo I could accept it but it doesn't feel like it should be that hard to find qualies i have easily in a girl. And I'm 21, so I'll probably give up on finding a girl in a few years.
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>>18360767
And it's great when it happens but why do we pretend its even rarely to the same intensity? The vast majority of women into gaming will never touch anything deeper than LoZ for instance.
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>>18360780
Yes, you are a minority.
And honestly I don't understand the rest of your post.
Yes, it is hard to find a 21 year old virgin who is pretty and doesn't drink, party or do drugs. Why wouldn't it be?
Most people, especially the attractive ones, lost their virginity to their high school sweetheart when they were 16, and are now enjoying a normal social life which includes drinking.
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>>18360769
I imagine barring some sort of personal or religious reason for remaining a virgin, most people over the age of 20 simply lie about their virginity. Even females. I know I do.
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>>18360781
Neither are the vast majority of men. 90% of guys I know just play FIFA sometimes.
There are some women who are big into gaming.
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>>18360790
It's what I want in a girl, if I can't even have that I don't see myself being satisfied.
>>18360794
Why would you lie? To the general public it's pointless, to a partner it's shitty.
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>>18360803
>It's what I want in a girl, if I can't even have that I don't see myself being satisfied.
You are very immature.

Try finding a person who makes you happy, who is fun to be around, who brings out the best in you, who makes you want to be a better man.

Whether someone is virgin or not, or drinks sometimes, or has a tattoo doesn't matter as much as finding someone who is compatible to you.
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>>18360803
>Why would you lie?
Saying you're a virgin is an instant conversation starter.
"Really?" "Wow!" "How?" "Why haven't you...?"
Once, I've even had someone try to set me up. In general it's just a pain, so lying is simply easier.
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>>18360767
Still doesn't make most women at all interesting or fun to interact with beyond trying to fuck them.
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>>18360818
Maybe homosexuality is the path for you.

No, I'm serious.
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>>18360819
Go tell your boyfriend you never want to have any kind of sexual interaction with him again and see how long he stays with you just for the fun of your personality.
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>>18360822
Anonymous, that's marriage.
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>>18360822
Because everyone has sexual interaction with everyone they know and would never be around anyone for anything but that.
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>>18360822
>sex is important so it must be the only part of a relationship that's important
You're literally gay.
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>>18360818
Sure, a lot of women are boring. A lot of men are, too - I rejected plenty of attractive guys because they were a pain to talk to.

Gender doesn't really matter.
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>>18360812
I want both, I'm willing to work harder but I won't compromise on it. I don't give a shit if anyone thinks it's important, I just want to know how I can have it.
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Question for guys: if a girl you'd been seeing for just a couple weeks asked you to get tested so you could have sex w/o condoms, would that be appealing bc the sex is better, or come across too strong like 'let's immediately have a monogamous relationship' sort of vibe?
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girls, would you expect your bee eff to delete nudes of his exes?
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>>18360822
People have different expectations from friends and from your SO.
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>>18360834
Depends on how long we've been dating, naturally.
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>>18360825
Sex, or the possibility of it. Women don't really appreciate how much work men have to do to fuck them. It's a good idea to keep multiple potential paths open.

>>18360826
What's the matter? If you're so confident sex is just some minor part of what your boyfriend wants and he totally actually loves you for your wonderful personality just go try the test. Nothing should go wrong, right?
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>>18360830
Just saying that your expectations are way too high.
Interact with many people till you find one that fits your bill. There's no secret place where all 21 year old pretty virgins meet to not drink and not do drugs together
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>>18360831
My first concern would be birth control.
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>>18360831
It'd come across as "this bitch is trying to pregnancy trap me" vibe.
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>>18360834
Yes, before starting to date me possibly.
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>>18360848
>>18360850
Sorry, forgot to say I'm on birth control and that would be made clear. I have the implant so you can see it under my skin and I could even show the paperwork if needs be lol. So given that, what would your reaction be?
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>>18360863
"This is one elaborate pregnancy trap".
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>>18360844
Imagine a car. It cannot function without the gearstick, say, or the steering wheel. That doesn't mean that the rest of the car is functionless or can be done without.
The car is a relationship. Sex is the steering wheel. Other things, like compatible personalities, physical attraction, similar life goals etc are the engine, wheels, CD player etc.
Do you understand now?
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>>18360864
Kek maybe you're right. Fuck though, I hate condoms.
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>>18360867
There are a lot of people who are happy without sex in their relationship.
Just because you personally wouldn't, it doesn't mean that everyone is like you.
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>>18360871
Yes that's a fair point. I was just trying to demonstrate that saying a relationship might falter without sex doesn't prove the rest of it is unimportant.
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>>18360867
Funny I was thinking about coming up with an analogy just like this to show you the point, yet somehow you came up with it with the opposite intention.

Well I suppose I can't deny there is technically some use to all those other things a car can have besides driving. But very few people are going to commit themselves to a monogamous relationship with a car that can't do a cars primary purpose of driving. They'd sell it for a car that can.
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>>18360863
Even so, I'd need to be months or maybe even a year into things with you before I decided to go bare. If it's only been a few weeks then I'd be extremely cautious.
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>>18359471

It really doesn't matter as long as you both have the same interests
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>>18360875
Yeah I totally agree. But they'd also do the same for another missing part of the 'car' like if you don't have compatible personalities.
I thought your point was that sex is essentially the only important aspect of a relationship, the only thing you want from a woman.
I was trying to say that needing something doesn't mean needing only something.
Apologies if I misunderstood.
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Why is being a loner seen as weird even if you're happy? I find I get my social needs met by working in my customer service job.
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>>18360844
>If you're so confident sex is just some minor part of what your boyfriend wants and he totally actually loves you for your wonderful personality just go try the test.

That's a very silly way of thinking.
My boyfriend can get sex from other girls. He picked me because we are very compatible intellectually, emotionally and physically and most of his needs are met in our relationship.
Of course sex is great and all people enjoy having it. Of course, a sexless relationship is not acceptable for most. But you don't pick your lifelong partner based on "this girl is available and willing to suck my cock".
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>>18360881
There is no other purpose to a car as important as driving. A car needs to do that and anything is is just bonuses.

Same as a woman. If you can actually tolerate spending time with her great but if you can never fuck or what's the point.
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>>18360894
That's borderline sociopathic.
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>>18360893
>But you don't pick your lifelong partner based on "this girl is available and willing to suck my cock".
Then quite making excuses and go test it already. See how much he wants to be with you instead of those other girls if you tell him you'll never suck his cock (or touch it in any other matter either).
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>>18360745
Jesus Chris I'm not even into weeb hobbies but this is scary accurate.
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>>18360894
In my analogy driving=/= sex, it's equal to a relationship. Made up of different aspects that make it function.
If you, like most people, are sexual, then there is no point to a relationship without sex. But there is also no point to one without good chemistry, similar interests etc. Unless you're totally incapable of romantic relationships, maybe if you have severe autism. That's fine, it takes all sorts etc. But it's not true of most people.
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>>18360898
He stayed with me when I couldn't have sex with him for extended periods of time (up to 6 months).
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>>18360903
I don't care what you say the analogy is about, I made it about what I wanted.

And no matter what you try to say in your analogy it doesn't change the reality that no man truly cares about you beyond your vagina.
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Do guys like being spanked? No homo.
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should i tell my bf that this guy keeps flirting with me? would it just make him uncomfortable?
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>>18360992
I would probably off him. Do it.
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>>18360991
Yes but depends on situation.

>>18360992
Depends on who he is. Friend? Co worker?
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How do I gf like this?
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>>18361010
its an old co worker. i've blocked him but he found another way to contact me. i want to be honest with my bf but i dont want to make him mad
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>>18361025
If you're not a 10/10 yourself it's not going to happen.
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>>18361035
That's some spooky shit. Block the other contact method now. If he appears again, then tell your bf about it.
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>>18361037
You call that a 10/10?
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>>18361040
wouldn't it be better to tell him now? i mean, if he had a girl flirting with him nonstop i would want to know. and if he does it again it would be worse because i'll just hear "why didnt you tell me"
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Girls: I plan on using Tinder with a different name since I'm weird about people I know seeing me on there/avoiding weirdos etc. I plan on telling my actual name after getting to know people better but how will people feel about that? Would you be understanding or mad?
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>>18361042
I guess tell him but absolutely block him. Have you even told the guy you don't want to talk to him?
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>>18361047
Don't people you know have an idea of the way you look like? What's the point?
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>>18361047
If they know you they'll recognize you from the pictures, it just comes across as weird i'd say
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>>18361051
I look pretty different if I just change my hairstyle and wear my glasses.
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>>18361049
of course i have. thousands of times. he cant take a hint. i dont even respond. i ignore it but he keeps sending them.
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>>18361061
Just block him straight out every time. How is he even managing to contact you all these times?
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>>18361061
i worded that weirdly.

to clarify: i told him to stop but he keeps sending them. i haven't responded since then.
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>>18360558
I'm surprised by the answers you got. I always love getting my breasts sucked, period or not.
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>>18361058
It is completely stupid tho.
It is not shameful to be on a dating site. I think you can even set things so your facebook friends don't see you on the app.
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>>18361067
Well the other reason is weirdos out there. My friends had a few nuts and since they knew his name it made things easy. I want to just be more private about it all since I know there's some strange people using Tinder.
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>>18361063
he mails me letters and gives my friends stuff to give to me. he acts like im his girlfriend its so creepy.
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>>18361082
Okay that's quite a bit more than flirting. I'd say it's time to file a report before it escalates, him knowing your address is really bad.
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>>18361025
Hair is so fucking underrated when it comes to a woman's appearance.
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>>18361094
You think she has exception hair?
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>>18361089
well, its the first time he sent me something. i last saw him at the mall and he winked at me. i ran out of there. i want to report him but im scared of him.
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>>18361103
You've tried ignoring him, which hasn't worked, so it's time to make a report. People need to know what's happening before there's a chance for it to escalate.
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Girls,
which of the two guys seems more attractive, assuming their look is equal

>guy A
>26
>PhD math student
>profile description "Not the most realistic person in any room."
>loner archetype (has friends but doesn't like hanging out with them)
>is actually not an introvert (i.e. not shy or reserved, loves to talk about abstract concepts to anyone who cares to listen)
>Well liked by girls who know him, (but he is not promiscuous).
>Has potential to become a decent mathematician, but will likely sell out and work for industry for financial reasons.

>guy B
>25
>manager at a big company
>profile description "Simple, subtle and special. I am powered by inspiration and measured by realization."
>has a lot of friends, travels a lot.
>extrovert, kindhearted, will go a long way to help friends in need.
>Well liked by people.
>Has potential to become a successful politician. Will take the chance if that's where life takes him.
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>>18361112
Both are pieces of shit.
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>>18361112
I'd normally say guy A (seems a lot like the guy I am currently dating), but the way you described him made me hate him.
So guy B.
I actually love this:
>Simple, subtle and special.
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>>18361118
why do you love that? doesnt mean anything contextually; sounds like an iphone tag line
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>>18361112
Guy A. He's not promiscuous and we have a lot in common. Guy B is too much for me to keep up with. I like to stay home and I am not very social. We wouldn't get along.
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>>18361112
I love math yet your description turned me off from A. B seems like a genuinely good person so I'd choose him.
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>>18361102
Not just her hair, it's the way everything match. The contrast of hair colour, cheek, chin, lips, eyes, etc. She knows how to pull it off. She knows that long hair is mint with her facial aesthetics.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJb5R0gAqmr/?taken-by=jordynliftlove
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>>18361118
that profile description sounds like this dude just used a line from some self help book. But he's actually successful, so good for him.
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>>18361132
Her hair's garbage. It's dull and lifeless as fuck.

She doesn't "know how to pull it off", she was just born that way. Not following the link, but her eyeliner is poorly applied as well.
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>>18361136
You're fucking dull.
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>>18361118
>>18361131
Not that anon but which part do you hate?
The sell-out part?

It seems that's a reality with math majors, bby.
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>>18361025
>>18361132
Alison Brie's cousin?
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>>18361132
good GOD what the fuck is wrong with that body
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>>18361141
I don't know. Feels very full of himself, superior and arrogant but reeks insecurity. Classic beta guy trying to play alpha.
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Girls and guys

1. age/sex/country
2. How long has it been since the last time you've had sex?
3. When do you anticipate will be the next time you have sex?
4. Are you ok with this lifestyle?
5. Anything else you'd like to add?
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>>18361146
Fitness competitor. She would look better with 10-15 lbs of fat. Luxury problem. She almost exclusively post stage ready pics, though.
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>>18361152

>1. age/sex/country

26/m/USA

>2. How long has it been since the last time you've had sex?

Just over 5 years

>3. When do you anticipate will be the next time you have sex?

Honestly, probably not until my 30s

>4. Are you ok with this lifestyle?

I guess it's ok. I don't really feel like I'm missing out on anything. The few times I tried sex in the past I didn't like it. I don't understand what all of the hype is about. It just seems so much easier to not waste time on girls.
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>>18361151
What are you talking about. Guy B is the cocky one. Guy A is smart and he knows it, nothing wrong with that. He's perfect desu i'd marry him
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>>18361151
huh?
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>>18361144
>comparing a mere mortal to a Goddess
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Girls

Do you like long, slow strokes during sex? Or are they just whatever to you?
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>>18361161
Guy B sounds like a nice guy. He'd go out of his way to help his friends, he's kindhearted, he's likeable.
Guy A is just... the classic guy who is desperate for pussy but tries to play it cool, failing dramatically.

>>18361163
huh!
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>>18361152
1. 28/m/USA
2. 2 years
3. Probably before 30, It's only been a year since I was last contacted by my ex.
4. Honestly no, I thought I would have been in some sort of relationship by now but I followed around a girl who was just using me for several years.
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>>18360917
>I can't understand what other people have to say
>I can't relate to people's personalities
Not everyone is a closed minded sociopath
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>>18361179

>I followed around a girl who was just using me for several years

The one time I opened myself up emotionally I got used. I met this really intelligent, cute, and kind girl. We became very close friends. We shared everything with each other, and developed feelings. When she was going through hard times, I was there for her. It was emotionally draining for me seeing her struggling with a few parts of her life. But was so proud when she overcame them. But... 6 months later. I had some shit go on in my life. She wasn't there for me. During that time she talked to me less when she knew I needed a shoulder to lean on. so I dealt with all of that shit myself, and she ends up telling me she met a "great guy who makes me happy". That shit fucked me up.

I don't trust women emotionally anymore
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>>18361152
>1. age/sex/country
26/m/EU
>2. How long has it been since the last time you've had sex?
8 hours
>3. When do you anticipate will be the next time you have sex?
tonight
>4. Are you ok with this lifestyle?
Yeah
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Would a woman ever accept a texted drunk confession?

I have no experience with women and finally let out my feelings this way, she replied with a few things including just wanting to be friends. She made me so fucking happy and now we don't even talk anymore. We knew each other for about 3-4 months talking/texting/flirting, I just want to die.
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>>18361141
No, actually that's the one part I don't dislike. He just has red flags all over. He has friends but doesn't like hanging out with them? I get needing some alone time, I do as well, but that reads as him not liking his friends. Seems kinda dickish.
And the whole thing feels as if he's insecure but trying to feel superior at the same time. "He loves talking about abstract concepts", I do as well, but the fact that he has to mention it reads as if he's putting himself above others who aren't as "intellectual" as him. I just reread it, it even says "to anyone who cares to listen". I feel he's trying really hard to be special to compensate for his insecurities. Like, oh, most people don't care about the smart things *I* like to talk about. You get what I mean? He sounds unlikable.

Meanwhile the other guy just seems like a happy, confident and kind person. There's nothing negative about others in his description.
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>>18361152
>asl
22 f UK
>how long
One day, but that was the first time in about five, six months.
>when next?
I'd guess this weekend. There's always the chance a guy loses interest after bedding one, of course.
>are you okay with this?
Yeah. I used to get panicky when I didn't foresee any sex for a while, and thus slept with sub par guys. Now I'd rather quality than quantity/ frequency w/e
>anything else?
Idk. I've slept with seven men and two women.
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>>18361238
I did, but I liked the guy a lot and he texted me probably the cutest thing ever.
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>>18361176
Of the penis? Don't really care personally, penetration is just par for the course.
What I like is cunnilingus, statistically most women's favourite sexual act and most likely to induce orgasm.
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>>18361241

>I'd rather quality than quantity/ frequency w/e

Just out of curiosity, what do you consider quality? And what made your previous lays sub par?
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>>18361238
If she liked the guy, ofc.
Otherwise probably not, or would try and laugh it off and stay matey.
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>>18361152
>1. age/sex/country
24/F
>2. How long has it been since the last time you've had sex?
18 hours.
>3. When do you anticipate will be the next time you have sex?
In 6 hours probably.
>4. Are you ok with this lifestyle?
Yeah, it's pretty chill.
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>>18361253
It's a cliche I suppose but having a bit of a romantic connection not just sex for the sake of sex.
Being with guys who don't really care about you (in my experience) they don't really put the effort in to make you orgasm, so I'd rather just masturbate.

I had some anxiety problems which I've mostly worked through now, which meant I didn't like going outside too much. Just ended up having Netflix and chill style hookups with tinder guys. Now I'm beginning to date a nice guy and we go outside on adventures and have proper convos. It's nice.
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>>18359459
Need some perspective please, I'm a mess and not sure I should be

>gf traveled for work last week and Friday morning text me she is staying over this long weekend, her first time in this city
>uh, ok since you're there already and no time to see the sights I get it
>think it would be great if I surprise her, jump in my car and drive 200 miles since I know the hotel
>ask for her room number but they won't give it out but they ring the room and no answer so I send her a text but don't let her know I'm in the lobby
>wait in lobby for 6 hours, I see her come in with another girl and two guys, she sees me and looks angry
>wtf I thought she'd be happy to see me, approach her, she keeps walking to the elevator with the others and I call for her and call and she finally stops, the others get in the elevator
>she wants to know what the hell I'm doing there, but, but I wanted to surprise you and thought we could have a weekend together. She's not having it and mad I just decided on my own to show up and punches the elevator, snarls at me and won't let me come up
>bewildered, wait for about 30 minutes, try to text and call and no response, then see the girl she was with come down, sees me and heads right back up and I try to speak to her but she won't
>wtf, wtf, wtf, I get a room and try calling and text her the room number and please come over but no response
>I lurked around the hotel for a day and drove home.

WHAT HAS HAPPENED? Should she really be this angry with me because I wanted to surprise her with a weekend together?
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>>18361262

Oh ok, I guess that makes sense.
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>>18361250
So is penetration just a formality for you? Is this common among females?
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>>18361261

Boyfriend?

and if not, how common is it for girls to have a FwB and frequently have sex?
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>>18361250
What's so great about cunnilingus?
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>>18361274
Boyfriend of 10 years. We don't really have sex every day usually, more every other day - but he is sexting with me while at work right now so I guess he's going to fuck me as soon as he walks in.
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>>18361272
Well I know the stats say 75% of women can't come from penetration, but whether that means they don't enjoy it I can't speak for them all.
But my anecdotal evidence from me and my peers is that it can be enjoyable for the closeness, the performance of it, enjoying your partner's enjoyment etc. Certainly I don't know any women who ever penetrate themselves (with a dildo or something) so that says something I suppose. But I only have about ten female friends so this is a small sample!
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>>18361178
I see, you have been here for awhile and associate r9k concepts with real people. What's with the projection! Are you a guy from r9k?
I wouldn't describe A as desperate (that would be plainly subjective), and I don't know what alpha and beta mean beyond it's a r9k meme
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>>18361282
That's good.

could you still answer that 2nd part of my question? maybe just from things you've observed before with other girls, is it common for girls to have a FwB?
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>>18361283
>But my anecdotal evidence from me and my peers is that it can be enjoyable for the closeness, the performance of it, enjoying your partner's enjoyment etc.
This is how it is for me and my friends as well.
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>>18361280
Well it provides direct clitoral stimulation which it what leads to orgasm in most women. Fingering can be good too, but a lot of men want to penetrate with their fingers which doesn't provide that stimulation. Also women can do that for themselves (like how a man would rather a blowjob cos he can give himself a handjob).
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>>18361283
Feels bad man. Knowing your partner doesn't really enjoy the most pleasurable part for you kind of sucks and makes you a feel selfish.
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>>18361289
How do I eat her out so she orgasms hard?
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>>18361287
I wish there were more data around so as to demonstrate this to men!
So often they'll say 'oh but my last gf always came from penetration' or similar.
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>>18361286
One of my friends had a couple of FwB, no one else did.
But, of course, you don't really talk about your FwB with your friends. That's beyond the point of having a FwB.
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>>18361294
Yeah iktfb. I feel like there's kind of a narrative wherein cunnilingus is a treat for her, bjs a treat for him, and penetration the normal sex act for both to enjoy. But it should be that penetration and whatever else he likes are seen as 'for him' and cunnilingus for her, and both are incorporated into sex. Maybe I'm wrong. It's hard to say this to sex partners though.

>>18361296
Well obvi it's different for different girls. Different distributions of arousal tissue around genitals. But the main issue I think is how shy girls can get about asking for what they like (I admit that includes me sometimes). Maybe try three or four different actions (side to side, up and down, with fingers too, touching her nipples etc) and then tell her to say which one she likes best?
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>>18361304

>But, of course, you don't really talk about your FwB with your friends

Wow really? all of my friends have regular sex with girls they are not in relationships with, and always share stories. It's so common to see in the group text "guys I just started fucking this girl *****".

I don't do this since I choose to not have sex at all. But that's what I observed
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>>18361178
desu what you said doesn't make any sense. You sound like you are desperate to smear A because you think A is anon kek
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>>18361310
>Well obvi it's different for different girls. Different distributions of arousal tissue around genitals. But the main issue I think is how shy girls can get about asking for what they like (I admit that includes me sometimes). Maybe try three or four different actions (side to side, up and down, with fingers too, touching her nipples etc) and then tell her to say which one she likes best?
On the clit or on the whole fucking thing?
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>>18361324
On most girls, just the clit will feel better. Protip: don't lift the hood though, that will make it too sensitive, even painful. The clit has more nerve endings than the penis believe it or not!
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>>18361326
>don't lift the hood though, that will make it too sensitive, even painful
I know.
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>>18361310
Yeah and this also implied the little sex I've had wasn't even pleasurable for any of the girls except when I was eating her out. Kind of kills the whole charm of it really. Fucking sucks.
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>>18361331
Hey, I'm just one woman, I can't speak for them all. And if they consented to sex with you, they must've got something out of it. If it were all just about orgasms nobody would have sex, masturbation is much more efficient.
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>>18361178
>>18361240

>"He loves talking about abstract concepts", I do as well, but the fact that he has to mention it reads as if he's putting himself above others who aren't as "intellectual" as him

If you assume the description of A is from A, you are wrong. I am their friend, both A and B are pursuing my sister. Honestly I would prefer A not to get hurt, since he is the closer friend. But B helped me find a job so...

From my observation, A loves to talk about what he does only when he has an audience. i.e. people who are curious, and he always tries to use common language to talk to them as equals, as opposed to using jargons. I have no idea how you connect that to insecurity. The level of arm chair psychology here... Typically, what happens is a lot of people dismiss him as doing useless and theoretical things. What A does is using some analogy to connect some algebra concept to some unexpected thing. Once he told us about some theorem that settles a dispute on how to divide the rent fairly based on location (lol)

>"to anyone who cares to listen". I feel he's trying really hard to be special to compensate for his insecurities. Like, oh, most people don't care about the smart things *I* like to talk about.

Yes, most people aren't interested in what he has to say.

I honestly don't see how people here readily make a lot of negative assumptions, A is not a 4chan sperg but it seems anything close to that gets a lot of flak here. Like how spergs hate spergs
>"He loves talking about abstract concepts", I do as well
It's funny how you need to mention this, and this is from you. I didn't doubt this, but now I do.
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>>18361313
No. He sounds really unpleasant.
All his description was "I am so much better than others, everyone loves me, I am the best, but I decide to stay on my own because I'm so much better than you all. I am not unpleasant. I promise. I am actually cool.".


>>18361284
I was joking. I never even went on r9k. And I am a girl.
A seems desperate as hell.
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>>18361352
>All his description was

Actually all of A's description about himself was
"not the most unrealistic person in any room".

All of B's description about himself was
"Simple, subtle and special. I am powered by inspiration and measured by realization."

Those are facts.

The rest is from me >>18361350

But I see it's a bad idea to ask here, people here seems unrepresentative of what girls are irl. And apparently have trouble with reading comprehension and some weird spergy projection issue, too. WTF!
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>It's funny how you need to mention this, and this is from you. I didn't doubt this, but now I do.
I don't know what you mean with that. I wrote that I like those kind of conversations so it's clear that that it's not the conversations themselves what the problem is for me. I'm the one who said I like math.

It feels as insecurity because I know many guys who follow that pattern. It's not like I can know a person from a couple of sentences, I just wrote why it turned me off. I mean, I didn't even say I wouldn't like the guy, I specifically wrote "your description turned me off". I did read it as a description from him so that probably affected my impression though.
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>>18361371
>I don't know what you mean with that
people who mention they "like to talk about abstract concepts" and "like math" :)
No biggie.
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>>18361352
>All his description was "I am so much better than others, everyone loves me, I am the best, but I decide to stay on my own because I'm so much better than you all. I am not unpleasant. I promise. I am actually cool.".
Yeah, I'm the other one who answered, that's how it read to me as well. But apparently we're projecting and have bad reading comprehension.
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>>18361335
I guess but I dunno it's still pretty depressing to me. You can get the closeness from cuddling and the orgasms from cunnilingus, so what's the point of penetration.
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>>18361382
And additionally, trying to stablish a rhythm, taking it slow, trying to hit the correct angle seem so silly now. Should've just tried to get it over as fast as possible and move onto something she actually likes.
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>>18361369
Why do you ask for advice if you want people to validate your opinion?
Tell your sister to fuck A if that's what you want.
From the description you made he sounds like a sperg with a weird God complex he uses to compensate. B sounds like a genuinely good guy.

>>18361374
Yeah, we totally do.
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>>18361373
I only mentioned it because it was relevant to me wanting to date a math PhD or not. Still not sure what you "didn't doubt but now do."

>people here seems unrepresentative of what girls are irl
If anything I'd say girls irl would be more turned off by guy A. He did get some positive comments here.

>>18361396
>Why do you ask for advice if you want people to validate your opinion?
Hah, exactly. "If you don't agree it means you're dumb!"


>>18361382
Penetration is much more intimate than cuddling.
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>>18361396
>>18361407
>If anything I'd say girls irl would be more turned off by guy A.
It is actually quite the opposite, I didn't want to mention this because it would make me sound like I am A (!), but almost all the girls I know that know A,except for my sister and two other girls, have had some (fleeting ?) crush / romantic interest on him in the past, one was his ex gf. And yes, A is rather cocky about this (I think?), which is why I'm worried for him. My sister isn't like the other girls we know.

>Tell your sister to fuck A if that's what you want.
wow lol
ok. I wasn't asking for any advice (I know better places for that), no idea why you would think that. What I want is a simple anonymous poll, which is the only thing this thread is ever good for. But it seems I screwed that up too by writing too long. (/inserting my man crush for A into it lol)

B is genuinely a good guy. That is true. He is definitely the more mature and selfless person out of the two. I could go on and on about the good parts of B. That would take a few paragraphs. The guy saved my life.

But I never thought that's how 4chan would see A, haha. He's like my mentor. But then again I've realized a couple of things, too.
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>>18361432
>I wasn't asking for any advice (I know better places for that), no idea why you would think that.
Because you are on a board which is called advice? I mean.
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>>18361451
>>18361451
>>18361451
New thread
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>>18361439
...which would actually make sense if what I asked were "which guy should I date" and your answer were "you should date B/A because..."
but ok, it's my fault. I really should've asked, "only put A or B in your answer", no speculations needed.
(One of my speculation is that A will not be able to keep doing what he loves and eventually will end up working in Wallstreet or some startup company instead of being a preacher of mathematics like he fancies himself)
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>>18361459
NEVERMIND

>>18361423
>>18361423
>>18361423
This one was first.
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>>18360992
You should simply tell the guy you have a bf and that you're sorry, but you're not interested. Better that it hurt and he be forced to rip you out of his heart, than him festering you.
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>>18360831
It tells multiple things.
>she doesnt trust me i am aids free
>she thinks i sleep around so much i have aids
>she wants to have my baby

I would oblige, but the signs are oblivious you dont trust me at all.

>>18360834
Learn about encryption dummy.
You never ever delete nudes. /b/ and other boards need them more than you

>>18360892
People are social beings. Having gf is the norm. Your dna commands you to propagate and you need gf for that. Work will get you only so far before you will realize how lonely you are. Better start working on gf while you are young and capable of life change. The older you will be, the harder it gets.
And sex is fun. It is super fun if done with somebody you really love.

>>18360991
Yes. The rule of thumb is to ask him before the act.
T. Sub.

>>18360992
In ideal world you dont have to hide anything from your partner. Tell your bf to text him something funny so he backs off.

>>18361025
Find similiar girl and ask her on date. But you posted similiar questions multiple times now, so free advice:
>you dont gain ANY gf by shitposting here

>>18361041
Rating girls is childlish and always subjective. Some see 10 as 5 and so on.

>>18361047
Just use your first name and create second facebook account. Almost everybody do this to some degree.

>>18361238
>be friends
Forget about her and start dating new girls on social events or online dating. Learn how to express yourself without alcohol and never ever tell girl you love her first.
>want to die
Eat ice cream. It will get better.

>>18361267
You are backupman. She probably fucked other dude and is angry on you for finding out or not trusting her.

I would break up. But i am not you.

>>18361298
Clever boys will ask their girls or do the research on how to properly please her.

Clever girls will assert their dominance and teach the boys or express themselves about what they want.

So the only pair with shit sex will be dumb boys paired with insecure shy girls. And you cant help them.
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I had an amazing and rare connection with a girl, but we met under some serious and intense circumstances and the emotional pressure put an end to our relationship, which never quite took off.

it's been months but I miss her severely and never told her how special our connection was.

How can I reconnect with her? We cold shoulder each other right now
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