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FAQ:
>Do girls/guys like <insert specific look>?
>What do girls/guys think about <an insecurity including, but not limited to: looks, physical traits, personality traits, virginity or otherwise lack of dating experience>
There is no one answer. Preferences differ, but complexes are always a turn-off.

>I'm shy and afraid of people/rejection. What do I do?
Get over it by practising and exposing yourself to it, little by little, step by step. There is no single magical moment that will instantly change you forever.

>I like someone. What do I do?
>How can I tell if someone likes me?
Ask them out.

>Where do I meet girls/guys?
Anywhere outside. Or online.

>Someone did something insignificant. What does it mean?
Nothing significant. You're overthinking it.

>XYZ happened. Interpret this for me please
We're not in their head, we don't know.

>This person did something that hurt my feelings. Why do guys/girls do this?
Because shit people are shit people. It's not a gendered thing.

>Someone has made it super clear they're no longer interested in me. Do I still have a chance?
No.

>Where do I go on a first (or subsequent) date?
Pick one or more of the following: coffee, lunch, dinner, drinks, ice cream, movies, zoo, aquarium, museum, art gallery, <activity in your city>.

>Brandon, that guy who keeps asking about cuddling in platonic friendships and fart guy
Fuck off
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A girl I've known for 6 months, but whom I've been dating for 3–how much should I spend on a valentines day gift?

I want to get her a ring–nothing too fancy. How much should I spend?

This is keeping I'm mind that when I asked her what she wanted, she said she doesn't want anything, just a flower and maybe some candy. But I really want to get something special for her. I love this girl. But I also don't make a lot of money–being a student and working part time minimum wage jobs.

So how much would be appropriate to spend?
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Why do girls give such conflicting signals that make it impossible to know if they're interested or not?
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>>18026243
I usually get a giant stuffed animal, and truth be told I never ask for anything, but I love receiving a huge cuddly bear. You can never go wrong with that and I'm sure all females feel the same. I think a ring would be too soon, even if it wasn't for engagement. If you want something meaningful I'd get her a necklace, something she can always wear but not feel weird about. Money doesn't matter to girls unless they're gold diggers or materialistic tbqh you could just get her a card and she would be overjoyed you even thought of her.

>>18026249
Girls overthink things a lot, she probably had a shitty ex who makes her second guess everything. The more you talk to her the more she'll open up I guarantee
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>>18026276
A necklace sounds good. Maybe I should look for something on etsy? I heard girls like that site. I just don't want to end up spending too little.
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>>18026249

actually they dont. Women respond in very logical way you just dont understand their language.
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>>18026243
Personally I don't spend serious money until the first 6 months minimum, but realistically the first year on any gifts.
I'd probably go with 30$. Get something cheap, but at least doesn't look like it.
Chicks appreciate the gesture more than anything, if she digs you, doesn't matter what you buy her she'll treasure it.
>t. girl who still has the lid to a cheap box of convenience store chocolates her first bf gave her.
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>>18026249
They don't, typically when guys think this it's because they have zero trust in their own intuition so they analyze everything like it's of the utmost importance. Think of how a person acts when they like you platonically: they will be friendly to you most of the time, sure. Sometimes they will have a bad day or for whatever reason you irk them and they will be a bit short or snappy. You don't suddenly think that they think you're shit.

Similar for girls. And likewise there are signals that are so flaky or negative, that anyone who's experienced/confident realizes that there's no point to look further, she's not buying. This includes ACTUALLY wildly conflicting signals, which are rare.
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>>18026284
Etsy has a lot of cute jewelry, I can't say I've ever received anything bad from there so go for it.
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>>18026243
Don't bother with big spending man. You've only been dating for three months and to be honest you likely don't know how to get her something that she'll really love aesthetically, especially if she's particular about her style.

Get her something that shows that you love her without being a grand gift that might even make her feel awkward because it makes her gift look shitty or because it builds pressure on her to do you/it justice. Like if she likes reading, buy her your favorite romantic novel and inscribe it with something sweet about something in it that reminds you of how you feel about her. I guarantee you she'll love something like that more than a token piece of jewelery. And if she really loves you back, she won't want you to dish out cash you don't have.
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>>18026243
Is there other stuff she is interested in? I know that I like Alex and Ani bracelets because they are also trendy to own. I wouldn't get her a ring unless she collects them. Gourmet chocolate would work too
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>>18026243
I'd say that $15-$20 is appropriate. I'd suggest getting a bouquet of flowers and writing a heartfelt letter or card. She said she wanted "a flower", so it'll be an extra surprise to get a full bouquet. You might bring in your own vase and ask them for help arranging it.
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>>18026363
>>18026243
Also flowers are great, because you aren't forcing her to keep a thing. If she doesn't like it, then they won't be around forever. And because people don't really seem to give flowers as much as they did, so it'll be special.
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How do I get comfortable with online dating?

I've tried it about 6 times in the past, I've always felt so obnoxiously uncomfortable with the awkward set up of an irl meeting it's never worked out for me. I just lose my damn spaghetti. I just hate the forced set up of it all.

I have no issues talking to people the old fashioned way, but after doing that for the past couple years and realizing the numbers of people who do this are next to nothing these days I see that this aint working either.
Online is just how people date these days and I need to get with the program.
Do I just need to sperg out a billion times until it clicks?
Sorry I know this isn't really gender specific but I know these threads also tend to just be "relationship advice 101".
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Why do men seem to get hurt by women more
https://youtu.be/8bxmk09lCzk

I'm not joking. I've heard lots of break up songs by women, but I have never heard such heart wrenching and painful songs about break ups that made me cry that wasn't made by a man.

It seems like men are more delicate creatures and women are cold hearted beasts.
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>>18026376
>Do I just need to sperg out a billion times until it clicks?
It'll get easier every time you do it.

I'd suggest trying to set a meet up as soon as possible, so that you can work your magic of face to face.
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>>18026385
Yeah, that's what I tried to do in the past. My overblown fears of "every person on the internet is a lying rapist/murder waiting to kill you" get to me. I blame my parents. They never understood the internet and were always stupidly overprotective of me.
Even though I know I'm almost 100% safe so long as I'm not retarded about meeting them. I also hate rejecting people. Because it's a toss up of "ok, will he freak out and murder me for saying this wasn't working, or will he be a normal person about it and move on." I totally get this is a situation that can happen regardless of where I meet someone, but in my experience there are just far more mentally unstable people dating online than there are out in the real world.
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So, this girl I had been talking to might still be married. She told me that she was divorced. I received a cryptic message from a mutual friend tell me good luck and he hopes I can make her happy before he ghosted us. I did some digging on fb and found out that her "roommate" shares the same last name as her. What do? Should I talk to her or her husband or that "friend"?
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>>18026397
Sorry, I assumed you were a guy.
What I've done as a girl is talk to them for a while, at least a week. Usually up to a month or more. Honestly, we're women on the internet. We've got the upper hand, and being a sperg isn't really going to hurt you. Back in the day I used chat sites like omegle to practice conjuring conversations out of nothing. It's not really as good as it used to be, but there's probably other sites like it. I liked it because there wasn't any pressure. Once I hit disconnect, I'd never see them again. Even if we did match again, it was unlikely we would know it was each other.

I tend to be very hidden about my personal details. If you're using typical online dating routes like tinder and pof or whatever people use, that's a little harder. I honestly used 4chan a lot. But I had the draw back that I was talking to 4channers. But whatever. I'm a 4channer too, so I figured how bad could it be?

I usually avoided telling them my name at all, giving them a nickname ("I don't like to give out my name at first, but I tend to go by -nickname-"). I'm cagey about where I live and where I work, saying a live -this far- from -major city-. I'll be vague about work, eg saying I work retail instead of what store.

When I meet up in person, I like to go somewhere away from my normal areas. 1. I get to discover new places. 2. If it doesn't work out, they still don't know where my normal haunts are.
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>>18026397
>>18026436
If I do say that it's not going to work out, I do it over the messenger (I'll avoid giving them my phone number until date 2-4). I like to say "I think we want different things." If they ask for details, I say, "I don't know, it's just not really working out." If they pester further, I don't budge: "I don't know what else I can say. Sorry."
Don't give them any material to work with.

By being cagey, it honestly helps weed out fuckers who don't have empathy. They'll right away say, "What, did I do something that makes you not trust me?" That's not how trust works, you twit. It's something you earn over time. If they take it personally, I know that they can't imagine themselves in other people's shoes. So I'll take out the "I think we want different things". Yeah, like I want someone who isn't a self centered idiot. And he wants my personal information.
I like it when I run into the patient and kind guys. "That's smart!" they'll tell me, "I know how scary it can be for girls. I hope I can help quell any fears." These are the guys that I think, "Hey, this guy might actually be worth pursuing." They're usually willing to give me any time that I need. They feel flattered and honored when I do tell them information about myself. They realize the gift I'm giving them and respect it.

In the dozens of guys that I've talked to over the years, I've only had one who was a real creep (created a fake profile using what he knew I was interested in to lure me in). Through my cagey methods though, he doesn't know anything about me. He has no way to contact me again. After spending two days talking him down to explain to him how stupid of an idea that was, I feel confident he's not going to try. But I'm not in the dating game any more, so it's irrelevant.
I've had a handful of guys who get upset at not being willing to give him information or who try to argue with me (???) when I reject them. I don't bother arguing back and just give them conversational shrugs
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>>18026436
Lol nah man I've been told I talk like a dude before, so I don't blame ya.
It's honestly the transition from online to irl that just tickles my 'tism for whatever reason. I'm fine chatting with people online if I know it'll never move from that state, like I am here, and I'm chill talking with people irl if that's how I met them and started talking to them.
It's when I meet online, and then try to switch over to the real world that my brain just goes on the fritz and suddenly I'm just the absolute most retarded person on the face of the earth with zero social skills.
But yeah, I'm cautious about my online shit, particularly if it attaches my face/name to it. When I used tinder, I made a separate facebook account with just my initials for it. I don't give my phone number to anyone until I know they're someone I will actually be contacting regularly, until then they get a throwaway snapchat.
I've talked with some people on 4chan before, only ever met 2 irl. Not many channers in my area unfortunately. The one was hella awk and the other I did really dig, but he just wanted a ONS.
Which brings me to the next problem I have with online dating, 90% of them just looking to fuck. Even with me putting in my profile "If you're just looking to bang don't waste your time", I still get my time wasted.
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>>18026449
Yoo man, we are on the same page.
See I don't like being seen as a cunt, but I have standards. A lot of the dudes I see online in my area, I'm sorry they just aren't appealing to me. Handful of dudes I do see that are attractive though, typically don't want me or at least, don't want something serious. I'm into this specific type of confident dude that unfortunately never seems to fall within the groups of "I want a relationship".
Most of the guys I see are these kind of, r9k tier dudes who get overly offended or hurt when you reject them, and I just don't know how to deal with that. Because I am a bit of a bleeding heart, I don't like hurting people but it just comes with the territory from time to time.

Any advice on how to stop caring about that? Like I'm never going out of my way to hurt people, they just get mad and offended. I know rationally they're just being butthurt but I still feel guilty.
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>>18026458
>>18026466
I'll still say, don't give yourself such a hard time being awkward. First dates are awkward. Don't you want a guy who will like you even when you're feeling a little off your game?
For the being annoyed with the ONS guys, I kind of viewed this like a hobby. I enjoyed the process of practicing my conversational skills and made a game of figuring the guy out. Just like for guys, it's a numbers game. The amount of guys who I talked to once is higher than the amount of guys I talked to multiple times which is higher than the amount of guys that I talked to for any length of time which is higher than the tiny handful that I met in real life.

For them getting offended, I figured it was a good experience for me. I was forced to face my unhealthy habit of taking responsibility for others' emotions. It is not my job to make everyone around me happy. I am giving them a gift of rejecting them politely instead of ghosting them, and giving them a change to practice learning how to cope with rejection.
It'll get easier with time. I chose to feel pity for them. They are going to have a hard time finding a girl with that attitude, aren't they? Poor guys. I'm glad that I figured out that they acted like this before we went any further. I hope they figure their lives out, but I'm not going to be the one to help them with that.

Don't bend to their begging of "why". Stay vague and brief. "I don't really know. Sorry. Good luck." End scene. Don't actually give them any of your reasons, no matter what they say. It just gives them the opportunity to argue back and say it's not a good enough reason, or that they'll change. Yuck.
After you get to the "I don't really know. Sorry. Good luck" stage, stop responding. You've said your good byes, it isn't ghosting. There is no reason to continue. They just want a rise. Be strong.
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>>18026522
Great advice m8. I suppose it's just doing it until you get there. Not like I've got much else to lose, its either that or doing nothing at all. I'll give it a 7th go and try to stick with it. Gotta try and find the right site though. Struggles of living in a small town means zero selection. I tried Tinder and got the same 20 or so dudes over and over. I tried OKC and only got dudes way to far away from me, or literally grandpas, which was weird. Friend suggested meet me. They won't fucking let me activate the account though so I may have to ditch it lol. Not seeing too many dudes I'd be interested in on there anyway. Idk, I'll find something I guess.
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>>18026380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAsXMlkwXgs

And yes, she's written it. Try to say anything to undermine her talent or her love or her loss and I won't take anything else you say seriously.

P.s. It's about Leonard Cohen.
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>>18026546
Don't miss out on the '83 version either by the way, it's possibly even greater still honestly.
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Guy here.

Been married for 8 years, and together for 12.
Having a bit of sex issue.

Basically, I can't put it all in. If I do, she squirms and kinda pushes me away for a sec and the next day she is all pissy and mad because she says it feels like someone punched her in the stomach. Wouldn't be a huge issue except she now will really only have sex in positions that limit penetration depth and putting it all in certainly feels better than half staffing it. Things like doggy are a no go because of the ease of depth.

Is she being overly dramatic or is this an actual issue? Would just ignoring her a couple of times and going to pound town make this stop? Also she generally says she is too sore to screw for a day or 2 afterwards, is this possible or is it just an excuse to not have sex?
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>>18026536
Yeah, that's rough. I live close enough to a large city that it was pretty easy for me to find people. Though of course my boyfriend ended up being 4 hours away from me, but I've worked my plans so that I'm moving to his town this year. Do you think you're going to live in that small town for a long time?
I'll admit that even with all my work, my boyfriend I ended up meeting through a mutual friend. Expanding your social circle is a great way to meet new people, because you get access to their friends too. People who might not be willing to date online. I was helping out for an art project. Volunteering is also a good way to get yourself out there. People tend to be chatty at performances for local small bands too.

Playing the dating game was certainly good for my social development, though. I did meet some great guys and went on some great dates. I wasn't in a super good place then, but if I was who I am now, I could see myself pursuing some of those guys further. I wasn't honestly ready to date.
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>>18026571
Dude, get real here. Vaginas have different depths just like virtually all body parts differ in size. She didn't design herself. If you're above average length, you won't be able to go balls deep with all women period. Porn women work in porn for a reason. You can actually buy a sort of donut that you can put around your dick so you can pound more freely without putting it all in, check it out.

And no, you are either too thick for her and/or you don't ensure she's wet enough before penetration. Where I live there was a survey in which around 20% of girls showed to regularly experience vaginal discomfort/pain during penetration due to lack of foreplay. Again porn is not representative here, it's made to tickle the imagination optimally and get right to the real visual/intense parts.

Yeah you can use lube but honestly you wouldn't go in with a soft dick either, if she's prepped for sex she'll enjoy it loads more. If you constantly have sex with her that is uncomfortable for her, don't be baffled or indignant if she doesn't feel like having sex a lot in the near future.
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Have you ever dated outside your race? If so, how did it go?
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>>18026376
>How do I get comfortable with online dating?

Just do it more and more. I know the first couple times was awkward for me, but I went in with an open mind and pretty quickly got used to it.

But then again, being a dude, I don't can't really 100% say I understand what it's like for girls, but having been on plenty of online dates,I can say that you're not alone. In fact i'd say easily the majority of girls I've been on online dates with all started out pretty nervous about the whole thing.

Whenever it happens, it's always taken like thirty minutes of conversation and just letting them feel me out to get them to calm down, but they tend to move past it after that. I've always found that being upfront, earnest, and making people laugh is a pretty way to get along with just about anyone--no matter how nervous they are.

Maybe you could try doing some of the things I do to comfort other people, on yourself. Or my girlfriend (who I met online) has said that I'm like the perfect intro date for easing people in to online dating (she also had a bit of experience before meeting me)--maybe you'll have to find another guy like that. *shrug* dating is hard in general, but the more you do it, the easier it gets. Best of luck.


>>18026380
>Why do men seem to get hurt by women more
Probably because a lot of men go out of their way to ignore/run away from facing emotions, on a day to day basis, so when it comes to a situation where they have to face it, they have absolutely no idea how to deal with it on any real level and just collapse.

>It seems like men are more delicate creatures and women are REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

That's basically what you said there...

P.S. Just off the top of my head i'm pretty sure most people would agree Whitney Houston and Adelle easily destroy what you just linked...
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>>18026571
I relate, honestly. While my pain tolerance goes abnormally high during sex, if we get a little crazy, I do regret it the next day. I've been lucky in that I only see him during weekends, so I have the weekdays to recover and stop cringing when I move the wrong way. But on Sundays I sometimes am gasping a bit from the pain.
I've heard it pretty universal that women find it painful to have their cervix pounded.

>Would just ignoring her a couple of times and going to pound town make this stop?
Fuck no it wouldn't. It would probably make her really pissed of at you.

How's your foreplay game? Typically during arousal, the vagina lengthens. That would make it easier for you to fuck her. Do you do much for her while you're actually fucking? Rubbing her clit, pinching her nipples, pulling her hair (if she's into that)?

Also try lube.
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>>18026569
Fuck it, gonna link it anyway, do yourself a favor and listen to this incomparable piece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_OtHVLAF4o
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Sex question-

Would 69 work with the guy on top? I'd imagine it'd be more of a face fucking position. Would it be too complicated, like a 'rub belly pat head' situation?
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>>18026620
I'd be up for it. Yeah it works, but though my past lover was way into 69 he was not comfortable with being on top. Obviously you're kind of in a more exposed position (although the asshole is further away from the goodies for men than for women). But as long as you make sure that you mostly support your own weight and don't actually lean on her, it's possible. I'd advise to make her press up against your groin/pelvis with her hand so she can exert some force if it's too much for her in a moment. That way you can gingerly push yourself in a bit further without being afraid that you're gagging her, you can instead back up as soon as she needs a breather.

But yeah, how comfortable it is does absolutely depend on height difference. If she's much much shorter than you, your groins aren't going to line up neatly and it might be a neck cramp kind of situation.
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Anon has inspired me.

How do I deal with the soreness of daily sex? Can any girls in LTR give me their techniques?
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>>18026638
Lube it up?
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>>18026628
I'm the chick.
I like the idea of the hand. Partially because I feel like he holds back too much when he face fucks me. He's 5'9" and I'm 5'4". I suppose we'll just have to see if that height difference works.
I had this idea since I get distracted when he's eating me out, that I lose my pace on the blowjob. Or if I focus too much on the blowjob, I don't really enjoy the eating out as much. Maybe it'll be easier for him to do that.
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>>18026649
I'll try that out and see what happens. Which brings up another question: How do you deal with the mess of lube? Towel down every time? Then you're all sticky afterwards too. I guess it's the draw back of, do you want something that will soak in to your skin, which means you'll need to reapply? Or do you want something that will stick around, but then it's sticking around?
If I could, I'd love to just fall asleep after sex. But I wouldn't want to get under the sheets when I'm all lubey and gross.
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>>18026617
This was beautiful! So much passion.
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>>18026664
Oh yeah, you might not be able to get all of his dick but you should be able to have some fun, even if it's just him eating you out/getting his face grinded on and you giving him a handjob or something.
Yeah it's definitely a bit more "taxing" than just being eaten out or even just giving head, but in my honest opinion it's also a special feeling to literally give and take at the same time, and obviously it's extremely intimate to feel his breath against your thighs/pussy, feel his hands grab and spread you, the soft weight of his face etc. It's not for everyone but I'm a fan and definitely not alone in that.

Try to go more with what works for you than worrying about his rhythm or whatever. That allows you to get more into it and makes things flow more naturally. As long as you're enthusiastic about translating the pleasure into effort he'll be happy. Cheers!
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>>18026673
Try keeping baby wipes next to the bed so you can clean yourself up a bit, and yeah use a towel that you can just throw into a container or something afterwards. That's the quickest way to deal with it I guess.

But definitely make sure that you get enough foreplay, as I said before, he wouldn't go in to have sex with you with a soft penis either. Makes the whole thing much better for you!
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>>18026712
Thank you for your help!
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Guys: I had a Fwb for the last 4 or 5 months and told him when I started to fstow he didn't want us to stop so we didn't until I went on vacation for almost a month, I get back and he's fucking one I my friends, acts like he hates me, I did nothing to him except ask for a relationship. So my question is why would he be acting like this? from a guys prespective.
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>>18026718
Yeah, we're certainly good on the foreplay front. Baby wipes are a good idea. More like baby making wipes, right?
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>>18026740
I hope you're telling that joke to your bf.
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>>18026243
Put together a movie date in a basket. Get some candies, her fav movie and package it in a cute basket or a jar. Avoid the ring
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>>18026748
I fully plan to. But it's gotta be in the moment. I'll definitely add a dramatic pause. I'm looking forward to it.
Or maybe I could make some sort of anti-baby making joke, since I have an IUD. Hmmm.
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>>18026740
Niiice.
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>>18026232
girl here looking for advice

one of those "I hope it gets ruined so I don't have to face the experience of emotionally opening up to someone" situations

All I ever do is think about all the reasons why I should hate him.

Most reasons aren't even that good considering we've only known each other for 3 months. I just nitpick at things he does.

I'm surprised he still asks to hang out with me. All I ever do is talk about things I hate and say mean things because that's the only way I know how to have a conversation. After we hang out I analyze the things I said and the way I behaved and there is zero reason why he should want to talk to me again. I can even feel him being slightly annoyed. I know for a fact that he's a judgmental person like myself cause he has an opinion on fucking everything.


This is where I start considering the fact that he's just in it for sex. This would make the most sense, but there is easier ways for him to do that if he really wanted to so I'm not sure.

I notice I act distant when ever other people are around us like I'm embarrassed of him.

Despite all this I like the attention (I don't get much clearly). Some days I feel like I should be appreciative I'm even being considered by someone. Then ill tell my self I'm settling because I'm desperate.

I seriously can not even picture myself having sex with this guy. His body type is just very strange. But at the same time I want it to keep going (the attention).

Maybe it's way to early to look into any of this....we only hung out 5 times so far. On a positive note he does seem like a sensitive and caring person that could be good for me he's likable and has many friends, unlike myself.


Im obviously extremely insecure, how do I keep this from ruining all my relationships?
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girls, quick survey

choking during sex- preference of cutting of airflow or blood to the point of brief lightheadedness? or just pressure on the collarbone & lower neck?

quietest vibrator/vibrating panties of which you know, for public use?

best lube? most natural feeling? any that last 5-6 hours? (i.e. public use buttplugs)


>>18026795
you don't. this attitude & a healthy relationship are exclusionary. you need to figure out the source of it & deal with that issue, then focus on relationships. until then, you're celibate.
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>>18026795
also to add on to this, all his friends seems really cool and i feel out of place around them because of their sense of humor that i find interesting and neat but am simply not cultured enough to join in on.

(like very specific puns/references to obscure anime and ""kino'"" films)

He is very articulate, almost in an autistic kind of way. Even when I talked to him online he gives these long winded reddit tier responses to everything. He's like that irl also. I think this intimidates me cause I would like someone similar to me with shitty meme humor that responds like a typical normie. I'm afraid I can not stimulate him enough during our conversations, we only really have one thing in common that we can talk about on the same level. I do not care for politics like he does there are certain topics I am knowledgeable of but I'm sure they aren't things he cares for.

Now that I write this out I think we simply are just not compatible.
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>>18026795
By the sounds of things you are desperate or am attention whore. Also he probably is after sex. Though if you are being opinionated around him who is opinionated that is common ground. Also opening up to him and closing up when others are around sounds like you actually like him. May be good for you to hang some more or fuck or relationship. Hope this helps.
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It seems likely that tomorrow evening I will go from a kissless virgin to just a virgin, as I am getting dinner with a girl then coming back to my place for a movie.

Now I'm not going to ask how to conquer the anxiety around making a move or even really how to kiss, since that'll be awkward no matter what and I'll be too nervous to remember any advice. I'm 20 years old and have no idea what I'm doing. I WILL be awkward and WILL make mistakes, I'm sure of it. I'm going to go for it, because that's how I conquered my fear of talking to girls and asking them out.

My questions are these: how, on average, do girls view inexperience with something as simple as kissing, and do I explain that to her? Should I make an excuse before, during, or after (if at all) as to why I'm such an awkward mess?
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>>18026813
Not experienced to answer any of your questions and I would under no circumstances be up for choking, but just wanted to give you a warning: give your girl something heavy to hold that she can drop as a "safeword" for when she feels too out of it and needs you to stop but can't tell you anymore.

But yeah generally people who are really into choking (and not just the dominance aspect of having the neck grabbed) are into the adrenaline rush and the high from the short lack of oxygen to the brain. It is something to be very very careful with, don't do it when you're drunk for example. And don't be too spontaneous with it, she might just have exhaled, which makes the time she's had no air longer than you think. People die doing this sometimes so don't take this as overly cautious bullshit. Even if she doesn't die, she could suffer brain damage if it goes too far.
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>>18026817
>desperate or am attention whore
I am most certainly both but an attention whore to a lesser extent. I'm not clingy and I have never made the first move or texted him first ever. But I acknowledge that I do enjoy the attention very much. When he does message me I'm responsive but try not to act thirsty.
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I want a girl who is
>blonde
>skinny
>around 5'4"
>around 32C tits
>pretty feet
>nice
>somewhat intelligent
>"boring"/homebody
>hardworking
>affectionate
>cat lover

Am I too picky?
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>>18026834
no those types are a dime a dozen every where in the midwest.
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>>18026827

my friends & i have all waterboarded each other for the purpose of experiencing it in a safe environment. our safe word was "red", the object we used was a 6" piece of superstrut from my shop.

thanks though
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Asked this in the last thread, but something did occur to me. Could it be that she is concerned with not being able to afford the place?

To sum up the situation

A girl mentioned going to a Tea House, and she pushed for it to be on Valentines day. (My friend offered this week, but she seemed set on Valentines day)

We then found out that the Tea house is closed by 4 PM on Valentines day (Early than we agreed) so, he mentioned it to her, and she said to go the following day instead.

Instead of immediately agreeing to her new day, he sent this suggesting a new place "Great, can't wait to finish Monday. Well the place I was thinking of is called Sake House which was recommended to me by a friend and it shouldn't be too busy that day and I could make reservations plus we could stop by the Museum because Tuesdays past 4pm is free, but whatever works best for you is fine with me."

Then she sent this "Wow... you really thoughts this through... I'll get back to you" (Emojis used, Thinking and Upside down smiley, in case they don't show up)


We do think that she may be poorer, so she may have suggested the Tea house as she knows that it is not too expensive, yet is still sorta intimate? And She is unsure if she can afford it, so she is sorta holding back from outright agreeing? Does this seem possible? And assuming it is, is their anyway to let her know that she won't have to pay for it?
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>>18026834
What do you bring to the table?
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>>18026838
And? You can't just casually drop that and not include how bad it was(n't).
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>>18026828
You probably just desperate then and it could be good for you to get with him. Also if you don't get much contact with people other than him then you probably want to speak to anyone even me an Ahole on tinternet.
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>>18026834
Probably a little. Depends how rigid you are about some of the more mundane things. Like, is a girl who's maybe 5'2 really going to be that big of a turn off? And I'm not saying it can't, some people have things that are dealbreakers for whatever reason no matter how silly it seems to others.
I just find if you're gonna be measuring these stats to a T, then you'll have a bad time.
For instance, I have height requirements too, but it's a far wider range. Ideally, he'd be about a head taller than me, but I'm ok so long as he's somewhere between 5'6 and 6'2.
I like really skinny guys with little muscle, but I'll accept a little muscle.

There's a difference between what's the absolute picture of perfection in your mind, and the minimum you'll accept. But even if you are a perfectionist, that's ok too. You'll just have to come to realize you're not going to have an easy time dating.
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Girls, would you ever date a guy who can't bench 2pl8s?
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>>18026839
Kind of sounds to me like she has second thoughts about it being on Valentine's day. Those smileys don't seem particularly positive and she was low key showing that she realized it was really going to be an all around date. So she's chewing on it. That's what I take from it.

And if she does say something and seem receptive but doesn't mention the reason, I think something like letting her know you'd like to "take her out" would be the most you can really hint.
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>>18026857
I don't give a fuck about that kind of stuff. Not that strong men are a turn off (though I don't like a lot of muscle with low bodyfat, kind of a softcore chubby chaser) but I like lithe boys as well. It's just a different kind of appeal, which all people have to a more or less extent anyway, compared to each other.
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>>18026813
I like choking, and it seems I prefer blood chokes. Wind chokes hurt. I've never been choked for very long, he tends to stop when my face gets red and I go a bit limp. I'm in it for the dominance and for the high, so I'm not really one to stop unless he's in a position that's uncomfortable.
I agree with what the another anon said about spontanousness. It also feels weird if I need to swallow my spit. Put a hand on the throat for a heartbeat and then apply pressure. The moment will allow her to adjust.

I've read about the risks but I guess I'm too much of a risk taker to care.
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>>18026846

sensation of the pressure if being underwater. none getting in the lungs, but the really hard part was the involuntary reaction of water going up the nose or in the mouth.

it was terrible for some & menial for others. the ones that weren't incredibly bothered by it were the ones that were joking with the doctor when they got stitches for something. it's largely mental.

focus on not letting your body involuntarily suck in more water after some gets in your nose. if you were ever held underwater in the pool roughhousing as a kid, it's not dissimilar. the problem is you can't punch the other guy in the stomach & swim up.

it's half mental, & not despicably terrible if you can keep your head. but even the tough nuts said it gets old really, really quick
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>>18026857
Yup. I prefer non muscular guys, as long as they're skinny. As my post above yours states lol.
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>>18026871
Is that really the norm for girls though?
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>>18026861
For what its worth, she's been kinda flakey in the past. She would cancel the get together at the last minute with a legit reason. (Happened twice before)
But for what ever reason, she messaged him randomly asking to get coffee a few days later. Which they did and she said they should get together again, and she recommended this tea house.

And coupled with her other actions, (Flirts with him, Hovers around him constantly, Sends 150-200 word text messages regularly (Probably with a friends help) and other stuff and having him help with "What is Love" project.) It seems like she might be genuinely interested, but probably is nervous/shy, especially give that she has never had a relationship. But then theirs the age gap. He's 19 and she is 28.... So there is a sizable age gap there... But still this seems odd?
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>>18026841
I don't wanna get doxxed.

>>18026851
But it seems difficult to settle for anything less than my 10/10.
HOW DO PEOPLE DO IT?
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>>18026847
You're probably right, I re downloaded tinder just for this reason of thinking talking to other guys will help me care less about him. I started talking to an old crush of mine that I told my self I should ignore completely but w/e.
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>>18026875
Probably not, there seems to be a trend of girls liking the somewhat muscular, just as there's a trend of guys liking the T H I Q booty girls with a flat stomach.

Good news is, if you really want to widen your dating pool, you have all the power to do so in this sense. But there are also some who will like you without having to put any work in at all.
Just depends what you're playing for. If you wanna play the numbers game, then get more fit. If you wanna find someone that will like you as is, you're gonna be searching slightly harder.

But I'd say the difference isn't that big. It's not like there's one girl for every million or something that likes em scrawny. Chicks and dudes do seem to share this one philosophy:
>No fatties.
So long as you ain't fat, you're going to be mostly fine. Maybe chicks prefer muscular dudes but that doesn't mean they're going to necessarily turn down non muscular dudes if everything else is good.
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>>18026879
I feel ya, as I said, there are some people who just can't settle and I know it's frustrating but that's just the cards you were dealt. You have strong specific preferences you don't want to back down on at all. You're playing hard mode, it is what it is. Just gotta keep looking.

Hell, I feel I'm searching for the impossible when I desire a dominant, confident, and somewhat cocky guy who is also a romantic. It's not a common combination, but I can't go any lower on those traits. They just have to all be present for it to work for me. So, I wait.
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>>18026912
So what look gives me the most options? I'm looking for a specific kind of girl (introverted, cute, innocent, etc) and I want the best odds. I should mention I'm not picky about her being fit, just be skinny and I have absolutely no interest in hookups.
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>>18026879
>HOW DO PEOPLE DO IT?
I focus on the things that matter.

I have a pretty long list of things I like, such as brunettes. But in the scheme of things, does her hair color really fucking matter? Not that much. More importantly can I trust her, do we have a similar end game, etc. Even with physical traits, it's more of a priority list than a list of demands.
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>>18026879
>doxxed
Don't be insane, I'm not asking for your passport or even picture. You just did a text description of her right?

>HOW DO PEOPLE DO IT?
Because the combination of having feelings for someone and being attracted to them is pretty fucking great, and typically beats just being (more) attracted to someone purely based on looks. And obviously there's many people with attractive features and qualities (a sunny smile or kind eyes, supple way of walking with great posture, cute way of doing nervous shit with her hands sometimes, intoxicating smell, you name it) and you'd be surprised how much more enticing someone looks when touching their naked body suddenly becomes a potential reality in the near future. Young people typically have firm(ish) flesh and soft, elastic skin, that in itself - a reasonably young, healthy body - is very hot to most people. Not to mention after you had sex and you can't just appreciate their looks and way of carrying themselves and your shared love for each other, but also the memories of how her body feels, what noises she makes when she's about to come, how she looks at you when she wants it bad. So yeah. This attitude of yours is pretty silly.
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>>18026232
Known this girl for like three weeks. Kissed weekend one, made out weekend two, didn't see her weekend three. Planning on inviting her over to my place to just hangout and see where things go from there. Good idea or bad idea?
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>>18026882
Haha seems to be he case. If it wasn't for my friend here I'd be pretty lonely however I recently quit smoking weed and can't really go back round so often as I need to get a job. I'm hoping I get word back tomorrow on his senior analyst position I got interviewed for on Tuesday.
Is tinder any good? Have you ever had any decent relationship s from it? I'm a wizard in the making 22 but I want a relationship not just a fuck as what seems to usually be the case from these things?
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>>18026931
Your best bet would be to find a specific chick you're interested in and then figure out what she likes I guess.
Just don't change yourself into something you're not or don't like for a girl. But if you meet this cute innocent type girl and she likes muscular dudes and you dont mind picking up some weights, theres no problem in doing that to try and attract her.

I mean, I would probably describe myself like that. I'm kinda shy, I don't do well in large groups, I don't like hook ups, cute is subjective but I'm def not going for a sexy look.
And I've expressed the kind of guys I go for. I can't speak for every woman with my personality traits though. There's not really a universal thing here.

The best thing you can do to attract these types is to date seriously desu. Gain a reputation of patience and take your time with them. If you're known to not push the sex line too fast, then the girls who are the types to hook up will stay away, and the ones you like will draw in.
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>>18026995
I don't even want sex with a girlfriend desu, I'd like to wait for marriage but those odds don't look great... as for looks I already work out so... just don't try to get too big?
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>>18026968
ha im 22 too, no relationship either. tinder is no good i use it out of bordem (and for attention).
i've had a few friends that fucked their way into a relationship off tinder but they never lasted for them as they had no substance. having sex with people you don't care about is overrated.

good luck with your job result, hope you get it man.
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girls, guy here.

So I don't consider myself to be too ugly, and I consider myself someone that can be an extrovert no problem. I usually take the same bus route every day coming home, and the last few times, I've seen the same girl waiting outside with me for the same bus.

I used the fact that an old lady came up to me as an ice breaker to grab her attention to finally talk to her, and I did for the first time. She's very pretty, but I don't feel like I got a ton of opportunities to get her to talk a lot, though I made her laugh a ton.

I admit I'm out of it with talking to younger women, but what would any of you girls recommend I bring up next time I see this girl, just to get her to open up a bit? I found out she's 19 (I'm 28), we talked about school, about the city a bit (since I'm new to my part of the city and she grew up here), about my job a little bit, but I never really got her going the way I would have liked to.

What's something that a guy can say to the girls here to really get a woman going and engaged? I tried a few things, but while she didn't seem resistant to my conversation, she didn't seem 100% interested, too early to say. I imagine I will see her again soon enough, so I'd love some ideas of what has worked on you in the past. Thanks!
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Asking women.
How would you feel about dating a guy that stuffs his crotch? I dont do it to show off, its more like a confidence booster for everyday life. Out of the 20+ dates ive been on only 2 women have had sex with me after finding out i had some apparatus taped to my inner leg. And only 1 seemed to not care. I just want to know if there is more than 1 woman in the world like her.
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>>18026795
You sound freakishly similar to a situation I have going on with my fuckbuddy, apart from the not having sex part.
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>>18027238
It's... a little pathetic I won't lie. Any insecurity about anything someone has that goes so far that they have to try and lie to themselves to feel better about it, probably needs to find a better way of dealing with said insecurity.

As the OP says, complexes are always a turn off.
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>>18027243
which one of you is the insecure one trying to ruin it?
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>>18026839
>>18026877
Any more input?
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>>18027238
>apparatus taped to my inner leg
Wtf, man? lol
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>>18027252
I'm the retard who can't just fuck a girl without developing some kind of feelings for her and imagining a relationship with her so I'll probably ruin it soon. She seems to be getting bored/fed up with me already anyway.
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>>18027199
Nice, yeah I felt that may be the case with it oh well. Yeah hopefully I get it so I can provide a little for my family save up and move back out again.
Nice dubz, my last roll failed haha.
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>>18027248
I wouldnt consider it a complex. I can talk to women without a cucumber or pringles tube down the front of my pants.i do all the time for work. But when im out running errands or what ever. I can talk to any woman with about 90% confidence she will atleast agree to a date when she sees my bulge.
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>>18027272
damn i feel you man. but like i said here
>>18027199
fucking people you don't care about is overrated

i was in a very similar situation 2 years ago and it just left me feeling frustrated and bitter. I hated him for not seeing me as worthy enough to date. but it's actually all my fault for even letting myself get into that kind of deal.

at first FWB sounds all cool but it always ends with someone catching feelings.

fast forward to now that person hasn't changed i even found him on tinder and even in his bio he writes "love is cursed by monogamy"

that made me stop thinking i wasn't good enough
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>>18027281
I mean, I feel that's your own projection.
I don't touch big dicks with a 10 foot pole. They scare the shit out of me, all I forsee is nothing but pain. Therefore I am actually gonna be swayed away by your packing.
I think you should focus on the fact people like different things and you're going to have a far better time with someone who likes you as is, than trying to trick them into believing you're something you're not, and then obviously be disappointed when they get to the bedroom. As you've experienced.
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>>18027292
Yeah, didn't realize it would be me catching feelings and so soon as well, while she has zero interest in an actual relationship or doing anything other than meeting up for sex.
Serves me right for always spending more time than necessary with her and doing all the cuddling/chatting/caressing one another bullshit instead of just having sex.
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>>18027296
>cuddling/chatting/caressing
yup, that's where you fucked up.

i also read that kissing a lot during sex can lead to catching feelings too. kind of hard to avoid though.
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>>18027302
Sex without all that other stuff just wouldn't feel right, you know?
I know I fucked up, but it's too late now.
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>>18027294
This makes sense. Ive had women in real liife turn me down because of the bulge enhancements i was using were too big. So should i go for like a small banana? Honestly what would you consider too big?
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>>18027310
I think you should pay less attention to your size. You're fine the way you are.

But my preference is no larger than the average. A tad smaller would probably be better even.
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>>18027315
This actually makes me think. I could probably peel a squash or eggplant to the size i am when erect. This way it wouldnt really be lying or over compensating, just advertising. Thanks femnon
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>>18027328
Well I mean it still will though. Because you'll be expected to get bigger when erect, not stay the same size.
But whatever. I'm really trying to drill into you your insecurity over your dick size is far more unatrractive than your dick size.
Not to mention, since most women don't orgasm through penetration alone, you're likely not doing anything for us with your dick anyway.
Dude who's got top oral skill is better than any dick.
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how do girls masturbate if they don't have penises?
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>>18027339
Vagina and penis is made up of the same stuff, just rearranged.

>Responding to trolls
I know.
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>>18027334
Wow i already started making it. And this just hurt to read. Wtf im staying home.
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(Any) girls in relationships with asian guys: where did you meet him (online, in-person, through a club etc.) and what do you like about him?

Are you a habitual asian dater or is this something new?
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>>18027403
White girl here. I always end up going back to asian guys. I've tried dating/hooking up with other races, but I always end up getting serious with asian guys. Not sure what it is about them
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>>18027432
They're natural weak betas so it's only natural you use them for resources/as an emotional tampon while having actual fun and good sex with superior races instead of limp-dicked chinks.
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To the women.
Is it weird if I masturbate to recordings of my gf and I having sex?
What would think if your bf was jerking it to you when you weren't around?
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>>18026731
>Guys: I had a Fwb for the last 4 or 5 months and told him

No fucking idea. Sounds like he's acting out or some shit? Either way, sounds like he's kind of an immature douche and not really someone you'd want to be in a relationship with?

>>18026821
>It seems likely that tomorrow evening I will go from a kissless virgin to just a virgin

I'm a dude but
1.) You're getting ahead of yourself
2.) Most people are pretty shitty at kissing. You're better off just being DGAF about it and getting better.
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>>18026380
Because women get hurt in one way while men get hurt in two ways.

Both feel hurt about being alone, but because of the way human relationships work, men also get hurt because if we can´t get/keep women we are seen as failures.

You may now think "sure, but women get that too", but is not in the same proportion, as men are expected to be the ones tha have to EARN to woman while women are expected to too be picky, there is bigger amount of shame attached if we fail.
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>>18027463
I really prefer he masturbates to me than to porn so I really like it
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>>18026834
>Am I too picky?

Where do you live? because depending on that, the chances of getting a girl who is:

>blonde
>skinny
>around 5'4"
>around 32C tits

may vary, as for the other things, I don´t think wanting to date a girl that "nice", "somewhat intelligent", "affectionate" or even "hardworking" is asking for too much, I think those are things pretty much everyone wants.

Unless of course, your standards for those things are insanely high, what is "nice" or "hardworking" for you?
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>>18027403
White girl with a preference for Asians here
While I've never had the pleasure of having a serious relationship with them, I've had a couple dates. Unfortunately interracial dating is
still a bit of a niche group, so it is difficult.
>Where did you meet
Due to what I've said above, I've found online dating to be beneficial to finding Asian guys who are into white chicks. Idk why, maybe it's less intimidating to break that norm or whatever online.
>What did you like about him
I mean honestly, I'm not dating people for their race. I just find Asian men more aesthetically appealing than any other. But what I've liked about the men I've had dates about were just things any guy could have done. I liked their sense of humor, the way they carried themselves, shit like that.
>Habitual
Nah, the only serious relationships I've had have been white guys. Again, interracial dating is still kind of hard to pull off. But so long as he's got a good personality, the physical appearance is definitely a plus and I'd love to actually date an Asian guy some day.
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>For all the girls
When you were raised did you ever have any issues being guided on the right direction or any at all? were you told the consequences of your actions? did anyone give you any sort of guide or hint towards what would help you down the line or give you their take on how it was for them growing up?

>for the guys
How would you describe having a father was like? did he ever straighten you up and lead you to become a better person? did you benefit from parental guidance growing up? Did you ever look at anyone growing up as prey to your personality? did your parents encourage you become someone of ill-intentions?

I want to know what it was like for some of you growing up in a nutshell basically. Just curious to see how i would change it up when i raise my own.

A lot of people I feel don't even bother to raise their own children or if they do teach them harmful examples that end up getting in the way of other people's lives and if I'm going to do this job i want to do it right so as to not have to roll over my grave when my son is smoking and drinking while driving or my daughter is sleeping with someone who she just met.
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>>18026828
Why not just text him first once in a while?
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>>18026795
You sound a LOT like me.

This will either end up in you guys loving each other or separating badly.
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>>18027618
She sounds scarily close to a girl I know.
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>>18027599
>girls
Not really. My parents, though overbearing sometimes, usually followed the philosophy of "pick your battles". They put enough trust in me, and themselves as parents, to let me make my own decisions even if they thought they wouldn't end ideally. Though, if something was ever downright dangerous, they'd put their foot down and stop me even if they had to do it kicking and screaming.
Now I was a good kid, they gave me respect so I typically gave them respect. If they ever had to just say no, I'd be mad sure, but in the end I'd get over it.
My parents fed me their feelings/experiences on certain growing up matters, let me come to my own conclusions, and yes taught me that there are consequences to my actions that if I choose to take I will be responsible for.
Like with sex ed, I never got the bullshit "Don't have sex or you'll get pregnant and die" speech that is just proven to not work, instead I got a real education on what sex was, the risks involved with having it, and how I can minimize those risks if I choose to do it. Everything was open and on the table.
The only thing I'd say my parents, which was mostly my dad, did wrong was getting way to bent out of shape when I started dating. For starters, they tried to tell me I wasn't allowed to date until a certain age. You know how well telling teenagers what they can't do goes. I dated anyway and just didn't tell them. When my dad gave up on the dating ban, he just got too nosy. He'd ask about every single dude I so much as made eye contact with "You dating him?" and it just made me feel very uncomfortable. To this day, I still have a hard time discussing matters of romance with my parents. Hell idk if I'll ever introduce a guy to them unless I'm literally marrying him.
So my advice on that is, if you have a daughter, don't fucking get in her goddamn grill about dating. Raise her in a way that means you'd be able to trust her judgement.
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I want to see more white women mixing with muslim/arab men. How can we get past all the racial tension, and bring about an age of superior, cute hapa babies!?
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>>18027649
kek with the current political climate, not in your generation.
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Can you talk to your partner when you feel bad? Do they cheer you up?
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Girls:

Have you ever gone out with a guy you found ugly because he had cool hobbies? What were those hobbies?
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>>18027599
FIrst all, I want to say that mine was a special case, so don´t take it as a accurate depiction of what having a father is, but this is the only experience I ever had..


My father was what I would call, a "responsible manchild", like yes, he always did what he had to (mostly because he was told to), but his behavior always was (and still is) childish, not in a "fun loving" way, but a "inmature stubborn unreasonable with not self-awareness" way, not really someone that you would want as your primary role model

Can´t really say I learned anything from him, other than buying me stuff and taking me to school we never really interacted all day despite living in the same house. I have always see him more as a simple provider than a father, but I don´t hold him against him, for what I have heard, my grandpa (who died waaay before I was born) was a terrible father and human being, he barely gave him and his brother anything to eat and didn´t even sent them to school (but dad didn´t even finished elemtary school), so it´s not his fault that he doesn´t know how to be a father.

Like I said, I don´t hate him and I appreciated that he tried, but sometimes I see other men talking about how much their fathers made them betters men and teached them so much and I feel jealousy. I don´t even want to have children myself because I have no idea how a father is supposed to be.
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>>18026795
Wow you sound like a cunt.

This dude who talks to you despite the fact that you're an ass who is just looking for attention is somehow a person that you hate?

Try out not being a vapid retard and see how that works.
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>>18027687
>every fucking thread

Girls aren't attracted to the hobby, they are attracted to you guys being /passionate/ about something. The hobby has to be something that you actually really love to do or it won't do anything for your dating resume.
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>>18026995
>be patient and don't push for sex
>"you waited and i lost interest"

>makes sexual advances
>not so fast weirdo

I am so bitter, it hurts.
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>>18026834
Smh
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>>18026285
"Their language"
If you can equate something to a different language, don't expect anyone to understand it. Assuming that a guy will is what makes the actions of some girls illogical.
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Someone I was seeing told me to go back to where I came from but I continued staying in the same place they were. Now that I have left this person tries to contact me once or twice a week. Mostly when that person is not in class. Why tell me to leave and when I finally do text me that they miss me, what anime to watch, what books to read. I never text person first. Their number is even blocked on my phone since I told them to throw out my stuff. That person said they wouldn't do it.
I am very confused. My friends say said person is trying to manipulate me into talking to that said person. Thoughts?
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What do and what you think?
Pretty sure the answer to this is DON'T INTERFERE, but I'm also curious if anyone has seen/been in this type of relationship (I guess standoffish is the best description).

Basically, I have two mutual friends and coworkers that are VERY different in half their personality, similar in the other half. They generally act awkwardly out of character around each other, ask about each other when the other isn't around. They've been doing this weird dance with each other for about seven months. I asked the guy, since he's one of my better friends, if they had sex or something else and he said no(they just had a "moment"). Not sure if I want to root for them to get together or if they need to move on. Also not sure if they are "testing" each other. I just found out that the girl has started going to the gym and the guy has suddenly started being a little more vocal at work, but I might just be hoping.

>Guy is very reserved and stern in public, but opens up a lot in small groups. That one super dependable friend you want to have around. Generally laid back, but can get fired up over certain things.
>Girl is very outgoing and ambitious, but seems to be one of those people that has to have constant activity to live.
>Both are super intelligent, goal oriented people. Both also seem to be emotionally stupid. They also both seem very unwilling to change.
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>>18027722
>If you can equate something to a different language, don't expect anyone to understand it.

It was an analogy dude... and everyone speaks a "different language".

Fuck, in that same vein of thought
Teenagers speak a different "language" (I'm 28 I swear I have to urban dictionary half the shit I hear from kids nowadays).
"Flirting" is its own language
Random guys doing a NFL draft speak their own "language"

Point is, it's not something you can just automatically assume it's exactly what you know. It's something you need to learn a little base knowledge about and have a little practice in to make sense.

>>18027712
>be patient and don't push for sex
>"you waited and i lost interest"
See above dude (though I doubt anyone has ever actually said "you waited and I lost interest"). Also...(I'm taking an educated guess here) there's a middle ground, and you don't have to jump from one polar extreme to the next.

>>18027765
>curious if anyone has seen/been in this type of relationship

*shrug* i've done something somewhat similar... though maybe not really...

In our case, we had a friend (her best friend/my best friend's girlfriend) talk eachother up to both of us that when we finally met, we pretty much had the same stubborn, "Hey. Nice to meet you. K. I'm going over there now" type response. And that stayed for a while.

We ended up meeting and spending some time together like a year and a half later, aaaand we basically ended up hooking up realizing that we not only had crazy chemistry, but that our personalities matched pretty damn well, that we had a lot of common interests, and that "Shit... she was right. But don't ever tell her".

But also by this point, she'd just graduated from college and it was literally her last weekend before moving back home, half a thousand miles away.

In our case her trying to push shit backfired because we both just had stubborn personalities, with your friends... you know them better. Up to you.
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>>18027256
Anyone?
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Girl asked me to go to the beach with her. Typically I'd be into it and go but I'm almost out of the friendzone with another girl and I'd rather be with her.

Would going out with one fuck up my chances with the other?
Guys and girls. What should I do?
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>>18027854
Don't do it
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>tfw you love your girlfriend but you never have sex

Is it normal to feel frustrated because of this? I feel bad that I feel frustrated, but that's how this is making me feel.

Our relationship emotionally is great, she's a great girlfriend and I do love her–we're just missing one major thing. Sex.

Is that not a normal part of a healthy relationship?
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>>18027890
Not really. There can be successful celibate relationships, like if one partner can't have intercourse due to injury, or both simply have low libidos. You've got talk to her about what you want.
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>>18027897
Of course I know relationships are possible without sex–that's why I said normal.
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>>18027900
Define "normal."
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>>18027903
Conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.

"It is normal for couples in long term, healthy relationships to engage in sexual intercourse."
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If a girl has invited me to go out to bars and a party, might she be interested in me? As background, I met her at freshmen orientation but I've been around her more since I started being a conversation partner for international students, which shhe was doing before.

t. Zero romantic experience college male
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>>18027697
His personality comes of as contrived and it has always irked me a lot. I realize this isn't exactly a good reason to HATE someone but it gives me odd vibes at time.

Also, fuck off I'm fully aware of my flaws that's why I'm here looking for actual advice not for people to regurgitate what I already fucking know.
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>>18027612
Because I don't have to nor want to. Also that's not even the problem here.
>>18027618
Interesting, every day I go back and forth between both outcomes I think I will be content with either at this point I just want it to end.
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One for either
What is the best way to go about getting someones number/trying to get to know someone that works in a store?
How do I get from being shown products to anything non related topic?.
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>>18027612
that response I gave was snarky for absolutely no reason and I apologize.

what I am looking for is advice on self improvement/dealing with insecurity I'm not to concerned if he thinks I'm interested or not.
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>>18026795
>girl here looking for advice

First off, you're getting ahead of yourself. "Hanging out" 5 times across 3 months isn't exactly you being close to someone, or being a friend, or knowing them at all really. At most, you are a casual acquaintance.

Maybe if you were actually dating or some shit, these thoughts might be something you would have legitimate grounds to be concerned about, but as it stands, your mind is 10 steps ahead of where your reality is.

Second of all, If you don't want a relationship, you don't have to have one. Period. But you're nowhere near that point in the first place.

Take one step at a time. Stop trying to look ahead before you even take in where you are.

>>18027685
>Can you talk to your partner when you feel bad? Do they cheer you up?
If you can't, you need to reassess your relationship.

>>18028004
>If a girl has invited me to go out to bars and a party, might she be interested in me?

Maybe. Maybe not. Could be she's just trying to be friendly. Only way to really know is ask her out sometime.

>>18028053
>What is the best way to go about getting someones number/trying to get to know someone that works in a store?

There is no good way really. Different palces have difference policies about this kind of shit, different people will have different internal ethical policies about this kind of shit, different people will respond differently towards this kind of stuff

I'm a dude, but I work in flowers and whenever a chick hits on me while I'm filling in doing retail (asks what I'm doing for the weekend/asks for my number/etc), I absolutely just have work mode on, won't even notice, and will give them a store business card. Because I'm working.
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What's a good face mask to get rid of oily skin?
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>>18028188
I don't know, but you've just reminded me my brother got me some sheet masks for Christmas
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Girls:

Is there any possible way to approach a girl I worked with 5 odd years ago, haven't really spoken to since except to say happy birthday/little things like "was this movie you went and saw any good?", without it seeming shallow/creepy? We were friendly but I don't think we were actual friends because she was super shy. She did ask me out on a super awkward date once.
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>>18027599
>did he ever straighten you up and lead you to become a better person? did you benefit from parental guidance growing up?
He kind of buggered off until I was 16 or so because he didn't know how to raise a kid, by his own admission. Granted I was diagnosed with aspergers before it was merged into the spectrum when I was like 5, not really sure where I stand now and don't care. He just took more overtime, since he figured he at least knew how to do that.

Most things you might imagine a father teaching his son was learned through the internet. Not sure what I'd have done without it honestly. I'll give my mother credit for doing her best, but we were and are still very different people so there were still some major gaps.

>Did you ever look at anyone growing up as prey to your personality?
What? No. For the most part I just really wasn't sure how to fit in.
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Girl here.
I got told today I smile like I'm afraid? What and how?
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>>18028507
Probably look anxious and that you want to leave
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>>18027854
the other hand it could make her jelly and speed up the relationship with he one you want. Or you may actually realise you like the second one better. Either way it's win win my bro. Do it.
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>>18028507
Yo probably do that uncertain smile or that bears teeth like a dog smile. Practice smiling in a mirror until you know what a normal one is like. Peace bitch.
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>>18028517
I guess I should have asked how to fix and how to recover. Basically, my crush stopped flirting with me and I thought a playful why would help. Then he said he thought he was scaring me based on my smile. My stunned silence probably didn't help matters.
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Boys and Girls,

I'm falling for this girl and really I shouldn't think i don't have a chance with her. We talk a lot online, she's from my country but she lives in another city and shes always telling me to come over her city so we can go out to dance

We are getting really close to each other. We are always talking over audio notes and saying sweet things to each other. She's such a good, kind girl, it melts my heart.

But she is, or rather was, an "scene girl". Lots of tattoos and into bdsm. Now for the second part, we are actually really compatible on that. But I dont't have any tattoos nor I look like the usual guy that goes to hardcore concerts... i like those things, i will probably end up with a few tsttoos because i always wanted to do so, but overall im something different, i'm smooth.

I don't know why i feel i cant pull this off, /adv/. Maybe I think things work like this, that you have to belong to her same scene to attract her? I dunno.... I'm very confident in myself and in the fsct that atleast i'm something new and different. Of course online i always end up wondering this things, but when its face to face its easier, I can read the person and know if she is atteacted to me, but i feel this girl is into me...
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>>18028507
Check your eyebrows, they may dip when you smile. You may also widen your eyes when you smile. Also, like this anon said >>18028546 practice in the mirror.
It's what I used to do when I was modeling, just dedicate some time out of your week to practicing your smile. Look back at some photos and try to see if you can pick up on what that guy was talking about.
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Guys and girls i guess.

i'm a male, 27 years old, i've always been the kind of guy that people like, because i'm quite funny, trustfull, good listener and overall, i'd humbly say that i'm a nice person but... i feel like... people like me, but don't need me much, i feel very lonely lately, i NEED people to be happy, tonight for exemple, all my friends are either with their gf/friends or travelling around the world, living far away and i'm sitting on my chair, telling you about my life, i'm very bored and a bit melancholic.
My question is, what can i do, what can i say to make myself more needed (and not just to help for a favor or something) by people ? i can litteraly spend multiple weeks without speaking to anyone, people just keep going with their busy life and hang out with their friends, i feel like i'm kind of a second choice, as a partner and as a friend and this hurt me a lot.

Is there something wrong with me ? Or this is just the way life work when you're an adult ?
I have hobbies but honestly, it's always better when i can share them with my friends, unfortunately i don't have many friends who's interested in what i like or do (travelling, motorbike, horseriding, stuff like this).

i hope you'll be able to help me figure what's wrong in my situation, thanks for reading.
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>>18028566
Don't overthink it. If she likes you, she likes you, and if any style is universally accepted than it's natural and clean cut.

Hell, there's a good chance she's into being your wild girlfriend in a way she wouldn't feel with a guy more "hardcore" than her.

Go with your gut feeling and rock your own appeal.
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>>18028577
Damm! Thanks, those were some wise words. Sometimes you just need to hear that, to follow your instinct. If you're good, you are good then.

Thanks bud
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>>18028572
It does seem to me like you'd benefit from learning to appreciate time by yourself more. Sure people have a natural leaning towards being an introvert or an extrovert, but they both have their fans for good reasons and you can learn to see the fun in the other side more. If you feel like you NEED other people to entertain you and spend time with you, that sets a bad precedent for any relationship because chances are the other person is less dependent on you than you are on them.

All the stuff you mentioned has great potential for letting you clear your head and forget about your worries for a moment, for example. Just be at peace with yourself and look forward to things to come.

Other than that, I do think that it's natural to feel bummed out if you feel like people don't miss you for weeks when you are wanting to see them a lot. But the only productive answer to that is finding more people to spend time with so there's less pressure on the friends that you have to be available regularly enough. At your age, chances are only more and more of your friends will start to prioritize family life and their career over hanging out with friends often. That's just a reality to work with/around.
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>>18028585
No problem at all. Luckily most people are into a variety of "types" and can see the charm of different dynamics and different individuals. Good luck!
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Women

What do you think are the differences between a real man and a boy?
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>>18028597
First off, most of the time any of this is used as an insult is just to hurt you were it, well, hurts. It is a cheap card to play the "you're not a real man" because you don't go allow with whatever she wanted from you at that time. So don't attach too much value to that - it's about the kind of person and man that YOU want to be and being true to that, not catering to other people's definitions.

But if you ask me, it's pretty much the same as what makes someone a real adult, or a real woman for that matter. For me being an adult means not needing anyone else to parent you, being your own guardian who looks out for your best interests, keeps an eye on whether you put in enough, calls you out when you act in a way that should be below your dignity when you really think about it. It means being committed to being a good person (on your own terms) and being a good partner/friend/family member/employee, or even just an interesting person, not because anyone nags you to do it but because you want to grow and step up and be someone.

So examples are: taking responsibility for your part in unpleasant situations and being apt at introspection, instead of trying to shift the blame and find excuses for yourself. Knowing when to forgive someone dear to you, and not cling to your technical right to resent them over something small. Knowing when to forgive yourself, and when to make something right because the way you handled it is not acceptable.
And not as related to the rest but - finding enjoyment in "deeper" stuff like improving in a hobby you love, challenging yourself, not just enjoying passively being entertained in your free time.
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>>18028589
hmmm maybe you're right, i should appreciate my time alone more, but i wont lie, it's kind of hard to. The only time when i'm truly enjoying my time alone is when i can ride and take care of my horse because i'm not "truly" alone.
You're right about about the reality of friends who start prioritize their family/gf etc, i just wish i could find a gf too, maybe one day, i think i'll try to move from where i live, start something new, i feel my situation don't move here, i'm stuck.
Thanks for your opinion.
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>>18028614
This is a good answer. Well said whoever you are.
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>>18028614
Feel like I want to expand on my examples.
I find it really typical for young, more insecure people to be ill at ease with having done things or displayed behavior they're not proud of. Most often they try to invalidate that fact somehow. Eg they go "well she cheated on me first and otherwise I'd never have cheated", or "okay I said this really hurtful thing but my intentions weren't bad so it doesn't reflect upon my character".
This stuff isn't 100% baseless, but many older/more experienced people are able to see it in a more nuanced way and both have understanding for their past self and his/her choices, AND a critical eye because at the end of the day, they know they can only change their own behavior and that it only benefits them to hold themselves to standards.

Basically, a young person doesn't want to identify with his/her missteps because he/she is afraid of how that reflects on their character.
A mature person realizes that it speaks volumes on their character to be able to simultaneously own up to and distance themselves from past choices - because they're not saying, "this is what I did thus who I am", they're saying "this is what I did and now I condemn it because I am better than that".
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>>18028628
Thanks man, trying to spread the word. It bothers me a bit that adulthood gets such a bad rep.
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>>18028103
>First off, you're getting ahead of yourself.
i already mentioned that also see >>18028062
this is my actual problem.

it doesn't really matter if we only hung out 5 times, he could stop being interested tomorrow and I would be cool with that. I would feel relieved that all the guessing is over.
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How often do you girls think about sucking dick?
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>>18028666
Not like I keep a neat list but I'd make an estimated guess of it crossing my head ~three times a week casually, up to ten if I'm particularly fired up, and around once a week more elaborate daydreaming/fantasizing.

This is from someone single, mind you, so just talking about enjoying the idea and not a real prospect.
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>>18026433
Please help
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>>18028188
get yourself a good moisturizer first. Your wanting to mask will most likely get your face to overproduce more oil.

>>18028666
Sometimes. I can daydreaming of foreplay too so sucking dick counts with that
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Girls and guys

Does the weather affect your sex drive? I've noticed in the spring my drive skyrockets... I fucking hate it.... ;__;
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Part 1: How to ask a woman who lives overseas if she wants me there?
I was seeing a woman for about 10 days when I was overseas recently and I genuinely liked her, but I left to come back home because I often make bad decisions. I told her I'd come back. We have the occasional online conversation but neither of us really put in effort on that front.
Part 2: How to ask/get over the fact she might be seeing someone else?
It's stupid of me, but I've been feeling jealous that she might be seeing someone else, even though I've seen different women in the time I've been back home (I'm a piece of shit, I know).
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>get cheated on
>stay with her
>eventually man up and break up
what now?
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>>18028743

>how do I know if foreign QT wants me?

Join us :^)

>>>/int/70910415
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Anyone's thoughts would help, but I'm particularly looking for a woman's perspective.

Should I pursue a relationship when I only feel physical attraction to obese women? It seems morally wrong to be attracted to something that's unhealthy.
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>>18028952

I mean.. if that's what you like.. then go for it bro
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>>18028952

Every single person has unhealthy habits. Get used to that.

But you are fetishizing them here. Is being fat the only requirement to be with you?
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>>18028952

Genuinely curious. Can you describe in detail why you are attracted to them?
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Girls

say you've been dating a guy for a few weeks, you like him. What would you think when you found out he had both of his testicles removed due to testicular cancer? Would you leave him?
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>>18028952
Fuck fatties,
date healthy women. Relationships are more than just the physical, if you're morally repulsed you can't really have a good relationship with someone. You can only have good sex with them.
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>>18028963
I've responded to you in the past but I'll post again,
I'd be cool with it, even more than ok since it means I don't have to worry about getting preggo.
Yes, if you're seeking a long term relationship with a woman who really wants biological kids (assuming you didn't freeze any sperm or anything beforehand) then you're gonna have a hard time. But any woman who doesn't want kids, or doesn't mind adopting or going about getting them through other means, will probably love you regardless. If they fell for you as a person, your lack of testicles are not gonna be enough to break that connection.
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>>18028716
Huh, I never noticed anything like that. Then again I'm also on multiple medications that have side effects on sex drive, and a woman, so my cycle dictates my sex drive more than anything else.
>>18028753
The healing process can begin. Do whatever you feel is right. If you want to be single, be single. If you want to get back out there, get back out there. But I wouldn't suggest getting back into the dating game unless you've really worked out your emotions on what happened, and are ready to trust someone and not paint everyone you meet with your past experience.
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>>18028957
Well, I've had one girlfriend in my life (I'm 22); she was overweight but we bonded over videogames and a similar sense of humor. This was high school, so I hope I can be forgiven for being a bit shallow.

By contrast I ended up distancing myself from two women since because I thought they were hot but ended up not liking them.

In short, no. What's your advice?
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>>18028666
Sucking? Very little.
Jerking a guy off? Daily lol.
>>18028597
Men are going to be mature. They're going to have goals in life, plans to make those goals. They're going to understand that life is not always fun or pretty, but work through it regardless. They're going to know the differences between real life and fiction, and be open minded.
Boys, well they're the opposite. They're immature, don't have direction. They need to have their hand held and walked through everything, instead of just trying on their own and potentially failing.
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>>18028960
At the risk of sounding blunt, if I knew why my mind is like this I would try to change it.
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>>18028980

My advice was "Every single person has unhealthy habits. Get used to that."

The part about fetishizing them is just an extra. Maybe you feel bad about it because it's the first thing you notice, and probably don't move on much from there.

In life, you'll always have excuses to leave people if you want (she is too lazy, she is too serious, she is too fat, too sick, too damaged, she smokes so she doesn't care about her body, she doesn't want kids, she wants kids, etc.) But, if the person adds to your life, you can deal with a few of their negatives (as long as they aren't so bad, of course)
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HELP

I want to invite a girl I work with on a second date, but I'm fucking clueless/self-defeating

just that she accepted and came on the first date blew my loser mind

I messaged her on facebook "hows it going" like 5 days after the first date and she replied and asked me "what about you :)" which my overanalyzing mind made up to be a good thing even though I don't think I blew her away during the first date -we just chatted in a coffee shop-

the thing is I gave her my number over facebook even before the first date and I still have yet to get her number, and during the first date she would talk about how busy she is, am I fucking retarded and not getting the message that she wants me to fuck off? I've tried being direct and I sort of plan to ask her out again in person but I would like some advice, during the first date she said she wouldve called but she has no more credit but I feel like shit because ive yet to get her number even after the first date

help this self-damaging retard out please
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>>18028999
That's something to consider. I appreciate it.
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>>18028969

I didn't post this in the past Tbh

When would be the best time to tell a girl about this? We haven't had sex, so she doesn't know for sure. I'm worried she's going to think I'm gross
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>>18028716
Yep, it's summer down here and it drives me crazy horny.
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How do homebody guys find homebody girls?
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>>18027534
Nice is someone who is actually nice, but not too nice. There are many who think they are nice, but talk shit about others, bully others, take advantage... I don't want those.
Hardworking is someone who is not lazy, who will not depend much on me.

>>18027717
?

>>18029074
I am on the same boat and it is impossible.
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I am a guy and in a really strange situation here, pls help me out.

So I have got this new girlfriend for now about 3 weeks. We recently had sex and it was really nice, nothing too fancy or extraordinary since it was our first time.
Afterwards she told me she did not want to freak me out with more uncommon fetishis or desires and we laughed when I told her the same.

So she came up with the idea to share our porn interests in a way where we should give each other an example of the probably most degenerated fetish we have masterbated and ejaculated to.

She already send me an link to some porn site with a porn movie featuring some sort of fendom with teasing, cumming denial and pegging involved.

I am not sure if this is supposed to illustrate what her desires are about our future sex life. After all she just said "most degenerate porn whe came to".
I like her and want to continue the relationship even though I am not really a mayor fan of domination/submission sex games or pegging.
Therefor I am concerned what to send her. On one hand I do not want to lose her by lying about the porn. E.g. by showing some vanilla porn and demonstrating that we are not on a similar plane of kinkyness. On the other hand I do not want to freak her out with the really wierd shit I came to.
As of now, by being sincere, I would have to send her a Hentai Manga Doujinshi by Shiina Nami (google it under own risk). It involves some lesbian, schoolgirl, yuri farting, scat, rimming actions to give you a hint why I am a little freaked out about this idea.

What would you recommend me to do?
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Went from being told "I am not asking you to come over, im telling you" and me asking for a day/time whatever to not getting responses to messages.

I guess they found a better option?
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>>18029095

Send something back, but be smart about it, dude. She sent pegging and orgasm denial. Those are not vanilla fetishes, so you can send some good stuff back. But don't start with the most foulest Hentai you have.

Just saying, though, that if she is into pegging, etc, she might want to try it. Be honest about what you two want. Still, when you say "it was our first time." do you mean first time together or first time ever?
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Girls, why do you walk shaking your assets?
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>>18029101
Well, I do not know for sure about her, but it was my first time at all to have sex, but our first time having sex in the relationship.

So, what would be smart, I mean I already derived my fetish a little from live action to drawn porn. I can not really send her a movie where a woman puts shit into her vagina after all.
Also this would be gross irl, too.

So, which fetishes are on the same level of kinkyness like pegging or fendom?
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>>18029115

Stop. If this is your first time, try to keep expectations more realistic. I'm pretty sure it was her first time too, by the way. At least from hearing your side of the story.

You guys should really stick to vanilla sex for a while. A little roleplaying and shit would be fine, but keep away from restrains, slaps, chocking and shit.

How old are you two?
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>>18029133
Well, I am 25 and she is 24.
I am not suggesting to do this stuff irl and most of the porn stuff may be sexy to watch but the thaught of doing it myself or with another human being is mostly disgusting to me. Too much humiliation and degradation, e.g. with the scat...

But that's my trouble here, what response should I send her, what kind of porn fetish should I display?

I want to be sincere and yet not too freaky... what a predicament...
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How do I know if my girlfriend finds me physically attractive?
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>>18029145

Just FYI before we keep talking, I'm not gonna say "send this" or "send that". You are on your own on that one.

Getting past that, talk about this with her. She might want to try this stuff. Better to be upfront about it.
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>>18029150
yeah you're right. It just appears for me to be so uncommon to be confronted with porn by a woman.

Does she really enjoy it herself? Or maybe it is some sort of a test and she really despises that kinky stuff.
No help in letting my thaught's on this strife...
Either way I feel fucked whatever I do.
If I do show her my "horrible" porn (only) fetishes she might be disgusted or even willing to do this, which both is bad.
If I confront her about my feelings instead of showing her some wierd porn I surely seem unsecure and display mistrust in her.
And showing some vanilla porn would be probalby the worst since it is really a lie...

Do you have maybe other alternatives how I could behave towards her?
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>>18029020
Huh well you've got a kindred spirit here on adv.
I mean, I would mention it before you get nude together, just so it isn't a surprise.

Was she aware you had cancer? I might start discussing that if you're serious with her.
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>>18029164

What a fun relationship, build on doubt and the need to prove yourself!

Do what comes natural to you. If she doesn't like that, well, too bad. Maybe you two aren't that compatible. Don't worry, this won't be your last relationship.

Now, the caveat. Doing what comes natural while also respecting her. If you think something will disgust her, then don't show it to her. That would be rude. But honest, but respectful.

And for the love of God, TALK. WITH. HER. We are not your gf, she is. Talk with her. Communicaiton is important in a relationship.
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>>18029147
if you make her pussy wet
duh
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>>18029177
Is that it though? She gets wet when we kiss but her eyes are closed when we do that
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>>18029103
1, to attract men. It's similar to dudes maybe low key flexing or trying to show off their assets. Also, I've noticed some dudes do the "big dick walk" from time to time, even if they don't.

2, when your "assets" are made of jiggly fat, it can be hard to contain it and hold them completely still. It's not always intentional.
>t. chick with DD's and any speed above slow walk makes em flop even in sports bras.
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>>18029176
So do you think it would be appropinate to discuss my struggle with her? I see the importance of honesty and trust. Maybe I should just tell her that I felt confident at first when she mentioned it to "share porn" but afterwards realised that I was not so confident in myself.

Thanks, fellow anon, you really helped me realise this.
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>>18029175

No she doesn't know. But I mean, we've literally only been dating for like 3 weeks. So I can't say we are serious at this point
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>>18029164
man, woman see porn or at least imagine stuff and masturbate

most of them try to hide this, but I had an ex which she was quite quiet person, but great in the bed... she said she learned with porn and of course she was masturbating also

so, the more a woman is secure with their body and sexuality, the better
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How do I propose a thressome to my girlfriend?
I know that she is bi. And have given subtle hints that I would like that. How do I propose it without sounding like she isn't enough?
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>>18029187
Men show off their assets? I didn't know that. Does it attract girls' attention, though? And what is the big dick walk?
>t. medium dick

Is it really not physically possible to avoid shaking them?
Bonus question: are you skinny with tits, average or chubby?
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>>18029207

Just being Bi isn't enough of a reason for wanting a threesome, though.
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>>18029164
As a guy who finds horse porn hot, I'd never tell it to anyone.
Don't you have any mild fetish? I like feet, femdom, cum denial, cum on food.
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>>18029207
Talk about it first to gauge interest. Like my boyfriend would show me a gif of something he has seen on his feed and then gauge my response just whether I would look at it some more or if I turn away
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>>18029217
read my initial post: >>18029095

"She already send me an link to some porn site with a porn movie featuring some sort of fendom with teasing, cumming denial and pegging involved."

Is gaping, cervix penetration or anything from queensnake less or equally perverted?
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>>18029231
I had read it already!
>Is gaping, cervix penetration or anything from queensnake less or equally perverted?
Those seem good to me. They are not that extreme.
Scat and bestiality are on a whole another level.
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>>18029189
Mmm yeah, probably still a little fresh for a serious convo like that. If she's pushing for sex, then you might just have to risk it and put it to her bluntly. Otherwise I'd just suggest taking it a bit slow, working up your relationship before jumping into bed. The more she likes you as a person, the more likely she will accept you.
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>>18029209
Yeah, everyone with the subconscious biological impulse to breed and mate will want to get across why they're the best mate in some way.
Guys are sometimes a little less subtle in showing off the looks, as they're going to operate on the charisma and charm to attract a mate. Makes sense when you remember women are more mental, men are more physical. Therefore a man wanting to attract a woman is going to have to approach her from a more mental standpoint, and vice versa, a woman is going to want to use her looks to attract a man.
(Now before I get the autists reeeing at me, this is not absolute or black and white. There's a blend of both going on, there just might be a slight emphasis in the average man/woman.)

I digress. The "Big dick walk™" is a little difficult to describe. It's usually kind of like, walking with just a subtly wider berth. Since, if you've got your big dick hugging one leg, you don't wanna walk too close legged or else you'll smash your dick right?

>Is it really not possible?
To a certain extent, yes. Like, probably a bad comparison but whatever, make a bowl of Jello and walk with it. No matter how small your movement is, it's gonna move ever so slightly.
Now, exaggerated jiggling isn't going to really happen unless you're trying, or in a situation like you're working out.
Which let me tell ya, idk if there's any similar equivalent to guys, flopping balls maybe? Except your balls weigh like 5lbs each, but fucking christ, running with a large chest is goddamn painful.

>Skinny/Average/Chubby?
I can't say really. Some consider me chubby, others consider me average. I can only say I'm def not skinny.
I'm 5'3 and 125-130lbs with close to a perfect hourglass figure, bust 37in, waist 28, hip 38. ("Perfect hourglass" is usually considered 36,24,36.)
Decide for yourself I guess.
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Question for the Ladies.

Would you be offended if a dude would not go down on you during a one night stand?
I always worry I am being rude by not going down but I really do not want to do it, I love going down on girls but going down on a strange girl does not seem very safe.

I feel especially bad when they go down on me which is ok because I always wear a condom.
Would you be offended if you asked why not and I told your in case of STIs?
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>>18029294
You could use a dental dam, you'd be protected from STIs while returning the favour since you'd be potentially pleased orally while wearing a condom
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>>18029294
>>18029371
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lecktuch
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Girls, have you ever being offered money for sex?

>>18029371
>>18029376
I'm not him, but have you ever used those? Are they good? What's the fun if you can't taste her?
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>>18029383
I suggested these and no, I have not used them yet.
But I think it would be a polite and safe way to return the favour, even though not as pleasant as unprotected.
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>there's this girl
>I offer everything she wants in a relationship
>she offers everything I want in a relationship
>life gets in the way
>pretty sure we love each other, but are not in love with each other

I don't know what to do about it. Us dating or being together seems like a nightmare, not being able to be open with one another or spend time together seems even worse.

Had an argument 3 weeks ago, haven't seen her since then. Tried apologizing 2 weeks ago, fucked that up.

1 week ago bumped into her and asked her if she wanted to get lunch sometime. Said she'd hit me up.

Now what?
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>>18029294
Nah, so long as he doesn't expect me to suck his dick and just communicates that beforehand. Everyones got boundaries they don't wanna cross, and most people will respect that.
And as everyone else has said, you can try dental dams if you really want to. Personally, I wouldn't suck a condom'd dick because I can only imagine the awful texture and taste (even if they are flavored, they gotta have some sort of latexy plasticy taste) So I also wouldn't expect him to go down on me with a dam.
Basically, don't demand what you wont give, but if they offer anyway thats another thing. Otherwise, just say so beforehand you don't like going down, because it could make or break whether or not they want to bother fooling around with you.
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>>18029383
Nope, not anywhere near hot enough for that lol.
I'd probably be worth about $3.50 and a big mac.
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>>18029420
well, in contrast, I as a man, would be worth a negetive amount of money...
there is probably nobody who'd want to fuck me for free...
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GUYS:
What would you want a girl you really like do if you're having performance issues (which seem to crop up only with her)? Would you want that girl, who you really like, wait for you to resolve it?
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This question really depends on your partner's performance issues.
Responding with MY performance issues in mind: I have them regularly with the same person IF I don't "click" with their personality or looks. I'd want the girl to be nicer, more supportive, relaxed and playful. I actually prefer if she doesn't "acknowledge" my failure, don't say anything about it, just keep trying to turn me on.
ABSOLUTELY DON'T joke about it, not even a little. DON'T get mad/pissy, this will only make things worse. Don't get too sad or worried.
Also, if he watch porn frequently, she needs to cut this off.
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Ladies, can you explain the following:
>This week
>See ex again
>Walk up to her and talk to her again after rough contact for last months
>Agrees to go for coffee, just want to know how she is
>Send me drunk message last night
>Just now tells me that she doesn't think it's handy if we meet

I mean, what up?
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>>18029545
As opposed to what, just ending the relationship?
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>>18029704
Yes.
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>>18029681
Sorry! Didn't see your post.

Essentially just be there and continue doing what I'm doing? I don't "acknowledge" it in the sense that I say cliche things (it happens to lots of guys!) and I definitely don't take it personally. I tell him how handsome and sexy he is, which he is! Would you want that girl to stick around?
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>>18029717
Yes, you are doing good.
If this is the only bad part of our relation, I would. I don't know about you 2, but I like cuddles and caressing, so I'd be happy with that.
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I was snap chatting my best friend of 4yrs/ FWB and he's not my boyfriend but we act like a couple and spend a lot of time together. Anyways I'm having pms so I'm a bit emotional.
Anyways while all dolled up we were snapping each other. I then proceeded to send 3 snaps in a row and then apologized for spamming him.
He said
> thanks because I'm busy
I just sent him an annoyed emoji.
He later told me his Co workers gave him that same face.
I'm not sure why I'm taking this so personal. And I'm aware how immature it is for me to feel that way. It just kinda hurt. Any advice?
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>>18029724
>but I like cuddles and caressing, so I'd be happy with that.

He had issues the first time we had sex and he said sorry and I didn't understand that he was saying sorry for losing his erection and just snuggled into him and put his arm around me.
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hiw bad did I fuck up? I feel bad for what i did but i don't know if it was that bad or what or if i should leave my friend alone forever. I miss him but i dont know if its a good idea to apologize.

I had a best friend whose SO treated them like crap and made my friend cry. Nothing physical just some manipulation going on. I was sent some screenshots of evidence that the SO was cheating, by someone else I thought I could trust. The 'evidence' wasn't 100% conclusive but it was enough combined with some other shit the SO had done before, that made me inclined to think it was real. I deliberated and one day my friend and I got drunk and I showed him the screenshots saying that i didn't know if they were real or not when my friend asked why i hadn't told him earlier. They broke up because of me I guess and my friend is happier with someone else, who i did meet, but now my friend doesn't talk to me anymore. I guess we are still 'friendly' and he watches all my snapchat stories , but he just phased me out of his life.

I still don't know if the SO was actually cheating and I don't have the screenshots anymore. But the SO had lied about being kicked out of his college so, maybe something was goinng on. I dont know.
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I don't know where to go that isn't a bar to meet women. Dumbass OP says anywhere outside yeah no shit. What I mean is a situation where conversation amongst people who don't necessarily know each other is ok. Chatting up random women at a bar is a crapshoot and I don't have the personality for it. However involve me in a discussion about something and it's a bit easier to branch into other stuff. My friend group is relatively small, and we mostly go to bars to hang, the party scene isn't as common as it once was. I know meeting people through mutual friends is just about the most natural, but we're all just kinda friends with each other.

I just need to meet more women and talk to them in a comfortable setting where they aren't complete strangers, how do I do this?
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girls how many of you actually cut yourselves. my gf is trying to argue that it's very common, but I think she's just surrounded by emotional immature people.
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>>18029692
sounds like she's trying to get over you.
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>>18029748
Holy shit your gf is fucked up in the head. Its not common at all to cut yourself. Maybe if you're 15 and teenage angat but beyond that means you have issues and need to be in therapy stat.

Psychologically Normal people don't try to hurt themselves when they feel sad.
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>>18029748
Unless you have a blood fetish, abort mission, bro.
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>>18029744
set yourself up in things have women. like I met my current gf in an australian study abroad. my friend met his on a bike across america thing. just do things that you like and involve talking to people. mainly girls if you can.

and be hot enough that they don't get creeped out by you or they approach you sometimes.
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>>18029738
>They broke up because of me I guess and my friend is happier with someone else, who i did meet, but now my friend doesn't talk to me anymore.

No, they broke up because the SO was caught cheating or it was believable enough that your friend didn't want to deal with them or whatever reason.

Being phased out of his life might be related to his new someone else. Your friend might just be spending more time with them. If you want to talk to them still you can ask why you guys aren't talking like you used to. There are plenty of reasons and you're never going to find out theirs if you don't ask.
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>>18029744
Go to an event of a hobby you enjoy. Go to event days or conventions or something like that. That way you have something in common already and you can meet and talk to all sorts of people.
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>>18029791
Thanks this makes me feel better.

I think i know why we don't talk anymore then and I don't want to open that jar of worms. Its unrelated to the cheating thing.

I can't say i blame him but he'd done the phase out thing to other people too and I just don't want to be around that. He still hangs out with another ex? friend of mine who also phased me out too. We still care about eah other, he checked up on me when my parents couldn't reach me but yeah i've thought about it and our friendship had run its course.

They're good people but spineless and unwilling to tell the truth when they could instead ghost. I think its done for now but maybe in the future.
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>>18029729
Sad face guys
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To anyone with a fwb
On average, how often do you see them?
How often would you say is too clingy?

I'm seeing my guy about once a week, is that about normal?
>just ask to see him more if you want
I know I know, I just am already the one constantly contacting him for it, he never really sets anything up with me, so I don't wanna push him away accidentally. I'm new to this and just wanting to know what it's like for everyone else.
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>>18027238
Fuck /adv/ is a weird place.

I mean I often feel very normal (or more... sane/healthy than average) going on here, but then I remember that I'm a 22-year old virgin guy
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That feel when you want a girlfriend, but don't feel like you're in the position to get on in the next 2 years
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>>18029854
Eh, depends how you see dating.
Like, I'm graduating in a year or so, and then I plan to leave the country. I'm still looking and open minded to dating. Dating doesn't have to always end in marriage or anything, and typically it doesn't.
No matter what big change is coming up in 2 years, you can always just cross that bridge when you get there. Like if I met someone and when I graduated, I'd have to decide, which is more important to me, this job overseas or him? Or can he come with me somehow? Or can I make long distance work with him?

Yeah, maybe I'm just making my future life harder by trying to date like this, but I also know I can't stand feeling so lonely and isolated for the time being.
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>>18029817
Guy here, started off seeing my fuckbuddy once a month, saw her twice last month and now she's been making excuses as to why she doesn't want to hang out. She never initiates or texts first either, so I'm guessing she's not interested anymore because I was being too clingy/enthusiastic.
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>>18029854

What's the question? You know you have issues to work through. Great, work on them, worry about dating later.
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>>18026232
Girls,
do you enjoy sucking dick?
what about swallowing?
where do you like to be cumme?
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>>18029859


The reason why I'm not in the position is because:

1. I work a full time job, and I am studying.
2. I'm 25 and live in my moms basement.

I don't feel comfortable bringing girls to my house. Not only am I very busy in my personal life, but it's very difficult to meet girls where I live. Its all rich family suburbs. Young people aren't around here

>>18029888

I'm sort of just talking. I don't have anyone to talk to this with. My friends don't understand
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>>18029875
Well fuck, I'm already pestering him more than that.
But he's always been receptive at least.
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>>18029545
>performance issues (which seem to crop up only with her)?
You seem pretty confident that it has nothing to do with you.
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>>18029893
Not really, I don't hate it either, but I don't enjoy it. I do it because it makes him happy, and of course to get my bean licked as well.
What I don't like about it is actually cum. I find it kinda gross. I've swallowed once to say I've tried it and very narrowly avoided barfing on him, which I'm sure would not have been very romantic or sexy (depending on your kink I guess). Don't forsee it ever happening again. Actually, I've made it a policy of not letting him finish in my mouth at all.

I don't really care where he does cum, so long as it's not on the vag or face. Vag because I don't wanna even risk gettin a lil phelps swimmer, and face because I admittedly irrationally find it degrading.
By all means, slap my ass and tell me I'm a filthy fucking whore who's only purpose is to please your cock, but don't cum on my face that's just too far.
Weird logic, but hey. I just don't feel right about it.
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So I may have inadvertently creeped a girl out that's in some of the college classes I'm in. I tend to glance at people when they walk past me or move in my peripheral vision, and I sit in the same general area of the food court or cafeteria or whatever the fuck you call it every day. It turns out this girl tends to sit in this general area as well, and she sits directly behind me in one of my classes.

Because of our choices of where we sit in both rooms, I tend to be in a location where I notice her when I or she walks in the room (and honestly, it's a little hard not to notice, she sticks out like a sore thumb). Every now and then she notices that I glanced at her, but that's natural for anybody that gets glanced at.

Now for some reason today, things were different: I sit down at the food court and watch some videos on my laptop for a while. I see something move out of the corner of my eye and I turn to see what's up. Turns out it's her sitting down nearby. She noticed I looked at her, and she almost immediately got up and left after just sitting down. It seemed off and I'm fairly certain me being there caused her to leave.

I'm not sure what to do about this, and I feel going up and talking to her would unintentionally make things seem really creepy, considering I haven't really talked to her before. What do?
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>>18029945

Same thing you've been doing: Nothing. So far, she has taken things the wrong way. So if it ever becomes an issue, go with that. Also, keep your sitting spot. If you move now, you'll probably end up closer to her. So as I said, do nothing.
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Just a quick question for the girls,

Say you met a guy a month or so ago and you don't know him all that well but you like him. You might not be super into him, but you like him enough to at least make out with him several times and agree to go on a date with him. At that point, barring something extreme like finding out he's a huge sexist or been in prison or something, what are some things that would make you stop liking him?

>>18029545
Just as a quick side note but if you're the girl here, chances are he's probably not just having performance issues with you.

If I did really like this girl I would hope she knows that it's not because I don't think she's pretty enough or anything like that, it's just nerves and anxiety. I would hope she likes me enough to give me a little bit of time to get more comfortable with her and work out whatever I'm going through.
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>>18029961
That early on, could be literally anything. That's the point of dating, to find out more about you.

Hell, one of the biggest deal breakers for me that I sometimes don't find out until the 2nd or 3rd date is that he smokes.
I can't do it, I can't date a smoker for my own health.
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Question for the females

What are some deal breakers for you when it comes to determining whether or not you'll date a guy?

Bonus Question: What's the most important quality you want your boyfriend to have?
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>>18030172
>Deal breakers
Has kids
Cheated in the past
Does hard drugs at all
Does soft drugs regularly
Has a bad temper
No ambition in life.
Refers to women as "females" (ok, mostly kidding but goddamn that is my biggest pet peeve lately, drives me fucking insane)

>most important quality
Confidence.
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>>18030172
If he isn't a virgin
If he drinks/smokes/does drugs
If he's a progressive

Honesty
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>>18030203
Is girls okay? Little ladies? Womyn?
Great and bountiful goddess?

God. Get a room.
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>>18029893
I love it personally. Anywhere is great.
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>>18030206
Hah women is fine.
"Females" is cut off to me. Female what? Goats? Dogs? Pigs? Female plugs?

Plus it makes you sound like a roodypoo.
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Girls:
If I were to try & attract you with as few words as possible, what would you like to hear/read?

I have this really terrible habit where if I like a girl a lot (or I think I'll like her a lot), I won't shut the fuck up. Sometimes I'll end up telling my life story (not literally, but basically an excess of personal information) to a girl. Other times it's emphasizing how much we (vaguely) have in common (example: if she has similar tastes in music, I might throw in a run-on sentence about one of our favorite bands, or similar-sounding bands. If she has a favorite hobby, I might take a verbal-diarrhea about how I've tried that hobby, how I want to try that hobby, or try to relate it to one of my own hobbies).

How can I get your attention while being concise?
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>>Brandon, that guy who keeps asking about cuddling in platonic friendships

You fuck off. =(
It's a valid question.
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>>18030217
>If I were to try & attract you with as few words as possible, what would you like to hear/read?
You don't. If we're talking about making me attracted to you in as little time as possible, then you have to be very attractive, but that still doesn't mean I'd date you. If you want to charm me with your words, then you need more time, because getting to know someone gets me interested
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>>18030217
Well, me personally your actions would speak louder than your words. If you wanted to attract me, you'd have to throw that arm around my waist, go in for the kiss, run your fingers through my hair.

Knowing when to shut the fuck up and start using your body/nonverbal language can help with your issue too.
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>>18030203
>Refers to women as "females" (ok, mostly kidding but goddamn that is my biggest pet peeve lately, drives me fucking insane)
"Women" can (very) roughly define an age group. College-age and under, I call them girls. Older than that, I call them women. I might ask "females" for feedback if my question isn't age-related.

"Female" can also (vaguely) refer to biology. A trans-woman might have different preferences than biological women. I understand that this one's a little more contentious, as trans-women are referred to as "Female" on their driver's licenses & other legal documents. But I can still see how some people could use "female" in a scientific context.
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>>18030215
Oh yeah, I suppose I never really thought about it like that. It makes sense.
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>>18030234
I don't think distinguishing age is all that important, besides you're on a site that is 18+ ergo, women should be appropriate as there should be any underage girls.

Still though, "females" is this dumb nigger slang thats become popular and it just turns me off for whatever reason. To each their own.
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>>18030203
>Has kids
Alright, time for a TWIST:

Let's say that he doesn't have kids. He believes this to be 100% true.

Say that you date him for a few years, and there are no problems with the relationship whatsoever.

But wait, there's more! All of a sudden, a random woman shows up and tells your boyfriend that she has a child, and your boyfriend is the father!

But wait! A common answer to this situation is something like
>If he has kids that he doesn't even know about, it just goes to show that he's very loose about sex, and that is a deal-breaker to me.

Now, say that ALSO isn't the case. Your boyfriend is a very careful person when it comes to sex. He has only ever slept with women while in a serious committed relationship. It's just that this one ex happened to be crazy, and she dumped him & kept her pregnancy a secret.

Given the circumstances, how would you feel?
>your boyfriend is a genuinely sweet & caring guy
>he isn't loose about sex at all & has always been careful
>his ex just happens to be a crazy bitch
>he has a kid that he doesn't know about, and it's not his fault
>which direction does your relationship head?
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My boyfriend always seems to have a boner and it's getting annoying.

Especially when we cuddle. It's like I can't ever have serious conversations with him since he's probably actually thinking about sex instead of paying attention to what I said.

How do I let him know that this bothers me? Honestly, it happens when we cuddle... No foreplay involved or anything. Is that weird?
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>>18030215
Well considering that we are on a human message board, and that female goats, dogs, pigs, and plugs were not the target audience and incapable of responding, my guess would be human females.
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Females
Is it common for you to dig your nails into people? Because I've had quite a few girls do this to me for not much reason (even though I kinda like it) but it's odd to me.
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>>18030251
Boners aren't always a sexual thing. They can happen randomly for no good reason.

Times I've gotten a boner:
>while talking to a male colleague (I'm straight, and even if I weren't, he's still very ugly and I don't agree with his political views)
>while riding a boat & staring at the ocean
>while sitting on the grass & staring at the moon
>while eating dinner
>while doing extremely frustrating yardwork

Even if it is a sexual thing, you'll appreciate his constant boners if you're still together in your later years.
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>gf has a habit of holding issues with me in until they explode and ultimately just make us both miserable
>tell her to just tell me issues she has when they come up
>now every time a tiny tiny thing happens that she dislikes she starts shit with me

How do I properly convey "Okay, only bring things up if they're actually worth fighting over" without being a dick? Like, I thought it was common sense. I don't bring up all of her slightly annoying habits or the slightly annoying things she says/does. And if I mentioned that, she'd want me to detail EVERY SINGLE THING, so I can't quite use "hey I don't start shit with you over little stuff" as an argument or it'll just turn into "oh? WHAT little stuff??". I mean, she's starting shit (not casually mentioning or anything, legitimately getting pissy and passive aggressive with me or outright starting fights) with me over things like not responding to her for 12 minutes while I'm working and my sleep schedule being messed up.
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>>18030255
You mean like during intimate times, or for no reason at all?

If it's during sex, then that's because it's considered a sex act. There are a lot of pornos with nail-digging. It emphasizes passion & not letting go of your partner.

If it's during non-sexual encounters, then yeah, that's kind of weird. Like, if a female was just sitting next to me on the bus and started digging her nails into me, I would be all "what the fuck?"
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>>18030268
>I don't agree with his political views

Something about this made me chuckle when it comes to being related to boners.

"Oh, you're a Democrat?"

>boner dies
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>>18030272
Dump her.

Not even kidding. If she doesn't understand basic social cues, then it's next to impossible to fix her.
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>>18030250
If he rejects custody or visitations of it and all that jazz, I might be able to get around it. But it would still be a serious strain that might kill the relationship. Because if we ever merge our finances I'm gonna be pissed about having to partly shill out for his bastard in child support.
I just ain't being nobody's mommy. Step or not. I want nothing to do with kids, my lifes plans revolve around not being burdened by them.
Believe me, basically this exact thing happened to my neighbors and it destroyed their marriage. Had a kid with the woman he was with before his wife, even knew the kid existed, they both mutually agreed to give it up for adoption. Years later when this kid's like 30 she shows up on his doorstep playing the emotional guilt card about "wanting to know her father". He caves, she starts asking for money, he gives her all the money she wants because she guilt trips him so much. His wife gets fed up and tells him to choose. Chooses his daughter. Now he's basically her weird sugar daddy and all of their lives are ruined.

I would also still be questioning why he ever had sex without a condom. I know there is a small percentage they fail, but it's incredibly unlikely if he really is responsible about it. You NEVER take a girls word for it that she's on the pill. You ALWAYS protect yourself first. Either rubber up or get snipped. If you really are smart about sex, you know that.

Again though, my main thing is I'm not having that kid in my life. So if it's gonna be in his, he's not gonna be in my life either. I'm not going to try and work around a kid that's not even mine for the rest of my life.
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>>18030273
>if a female was just sitting next to me on the bus and started digging her nails into me, I would be all "what the fuck?
Lol no I know these women, it's just that sometimes with some females when we talk or they first see me they dig their nails into my shoulder and I always wonder why.
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>>18030252
Tru, it still bugs me though. I don't like it. It just doesn't sound intelligent to me, like you're trying too hard when we've had a perfectly acceptable term for decades and this "females" fad has only popped up in the past couple years.
We have a word for female human beings, it's women.
Everyone is right to their own opinion, some people don't like the word moist. I just hate the slang version of "females"
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>>18030250
>Now, say that ALSO isn't the case. Your boyfriend is a very careful person when it comes to sex. He has only ever slept with women while in a serious committed relationship. It's just that this one ex happened to be crazy, and she dumped him & kept her pregnancy a secret.
That would be very convenient for him now, wouldn't it?
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>>18030251
Most guys get boners randomly. I'd always get them in school even when I wasn't thinking about sex at all.

>>18030272
A good general rule of thumb is if your girl is making issues with you more than once a week there's either something majorly wrong in the relationship or she's bringing up things that aren't worth bringing up. I had a girl that made not opening the door for her once into a major issue. It's something all women do occasionally.
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>>18026232
If a girl flakes on you last minute twice in a row but later seems to show interest what the fuck does it mean.
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>>18030300
She's not interested and you asking her constantly to hang out is just an ego-boost to her.
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Just wondering if this was okay:
https://www.okcupid.com/profile/hello1290tron

I mean, prepare for some autism, but, what are the glaring flaws? I hate that I go on these sites but other means of hitting on grils too hard for me atm. Also girls on there never leave feedbacks.
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>>18030203
>>18030215
>>18030244
>>18030289
Not trying to offend anyone, so sorry if you took it that way.Honestly, the only reason I used the term female was because I looked through the comments and saw that other guys had used Women, Ladies, etc in their posts so I was liek "I gotta use something different"
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>>18030307
>I'm sorta screwed but I don't care lol.
Self-deprecating humour isn't attractive
> kek
Stop that. This isn't 4chan.
Couldn't be fucked reading beyond
>What else? Pie.
That sounds like some stupid teenage lolrandum rubbish
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>>18030302
Makes alot of sense, asked her out twice and then after she flaked I had too much pride to ask again so I just cut off all ties from her, then a couple of weeks ago a mutual friend asked if I was single and implied he was asking for her, but she didn't seem to change in demeanor towards me so I wasn't sure what she was thinking. Wanting an ego boost makes alot of sense.
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>>18030323
Okay. Thanks. It's true though, I have a diagnosis. And it's not lolrandom. There's a point there.
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>"I like it when the guy plans the date."
>"No, I don't like that, pick something else."
What do, gals? It seems like a volatile situation that can easily backfire without notice.

>Dude suggests something, girl doesn't like it.
>Dude suggests something else, girl still doesn't like it.
>Dude suggests something else, girl complains that he isn't adequately prepared.
>Dude asks for feedback, girl complains that he isn't adequately prepared.
In all fairness, Dude shouldn't be going through this if it's an ongoing relationship. But this can be very difficult if it's a first date or a new relationship, where the whole point of the date is to get to know the other person.
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>>18030251
Girl you shouldn't take those things for granted now or you'll regret it in the future.

During the only time my guy and I have ever gone through a rough patch in our relationship, he was rock hard after every tearful discussion. I found it endearing honestly. I don't think it means he wasn't listening or being serious, I think guys can get boners for all sorts of reasons. Even "emotional" boners. Cuddling is bound to elicit a reaction.
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>>18030251
>>18030251
we don't have boners on command you know?
Also having one doesn't mean that we can't think on other things at the time.
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>>18030307
>https://www.okcupid.com/profile/hello1290tron
Holy shit you are terrible at this. Delete the whole thing and try again I don't know where to start...
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How do I talk to a girl without being boring?
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>>18030337
If she's not counter-suggesting, then don't date her. Date more mature girls
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>>18030345
be interesting and have interesting hobbies as easy as that.
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>>18030345
Have interesting things to say
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>>18030251
Is it the physical sensation of the boner or a psychological thing? Because I've definitely gotten boners while cuddling because I find the girl attractive and my dick is engaged in physical contact. I've learned how to make a boner go down by doing a short meditation but that's only so effective for so long. But that doesn't mean I'm not paying attention to what the girl is saying or I'm super fixated on fix, it's just pure mechanical stimulation. If it's the physical sensation that's bothering you, the most you can really ask for is for him to like tuck it into the waistband of his boxers or something so at least it's not poking into you.
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>>18030345
Not a chick but find some common interests and start there.
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>>18026673
ky ultragel

not messy
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>>18030307
Here's everything you're doing wrong:
>using internet slang in your late 20s
>admitting to having a mental disorder
>talking about intellectualism (using the word "intelligent" or "intellectual" is a very big no-no in online dating)
>using casual conversational lingo like "capiche" in written form, online
>including a gay-as-shit poem in your profile
>describing yourself with adjectives such as "cool"
>the philosophical/theological bullshit in your "What I'm doing with my life" section
>not listing a genuine talent in "I'm really good at"
>listing Bruno, Pure Pwnage, and Team America in your Top 10 movies
>admitting you like Marilyn Manson
>mentioning video games at all
>admitting you can't live without "poon"
>being a filthy hapa scum
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asking my own gender but...
Men, do you actually like eating out a girl? I've gone to the point where it turns me on more than sex, and is the only thing I can masturbate to - of men or women eating another girl out.

I'm not seeking to put my dick in my gf, I just want to lick her to heaven
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>>18026232
How do I make my boyfriend want to talk to me more than play video games? Or at least think of me while he's playing video games?
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>>18030319
Nah its good. I'm not offended or anything, like I said, just a pet peeve of mine.
I'm no more triggered by it than, like the example I used, people who don't like the word moist.
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>>18030389
Does your gf share? Because goddamn finding a dude that goes down period has been a nightmare, let alone a guy who actually enjoys it and doesn't rush through it so he can poke his dick in.
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>>18030369
Hey thanks. I'd rather one point expounded on a bit than all of this though, if you care. Some of it's obvious even to me but some's not.
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>>18030396
Stop feeling so insecure that you have to compete with his hobbies.
Or if he truly is just not giving you any attention whatsoever, dump him and move on.


Otherwise, you can try blowing him. Just be wary of when he loses he might slam the controller down on your head.
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>>18030369
Oh wait, there's more:
>"I'm a quiet person who likes space." (most girls are into outgoing guys)
>"I don't need friends!"
>"You should message me if You're seldom around." (again, cut it out with the antisocial shit
>having a buzzcut (you actually kind of look like Gomer Pyle from Full Metal Jacket, and even if you didn't most girls aren't into buzzcuts; in your case, I can actually see your receding hairline, so you might do better growing out your hair to cover that fact)
>no mention of occupation anywhere (most girls will assume you're unemployed)
>setting your age preference to 18-31 (this one is where I'm actually the least judgmental. I actually don't give a shit about age differences as long as both parties are legally consenting adults, but having a range that low can apparently hurt your chances, because it makes you look like a "creep". I can't actually prove if that's true, but some women have told me this)
>being 5'9" (I know you have no control over this, but it's an actual disadvantage that is hurting your chances nonetheless. You can't control your height, so the least you can do is not be a total piece of shit to make up for it)
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>>18030389
I like it, I used to be terrible at it though. When I first started eating out my girlfriends pussy I was terrible. I would lick her pisshole thinking that's where she got the most pleasure from. Oh how wrong I was
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How do you girls think when a guy is intrested in you but it's your friend and you don't want to hurt him?
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>>18030204
You don't exist.

>>18030251
You're really dumb.

>>18030389
I like it, but I think getting blowjobs is still my favorite sex act.

>>18030396
lol
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Making plans to hang out with qt grill later on this week and she mentions bringing along another guy. Says she thinks I'd like him and made sure I knew she wasn't into him at all.

I never even brought up her being into him lol why bring that up specifically?
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>>18030412
It really sucks, because its basically the end of your friendship.
You can't just stay friends when one has feeling and the other can't reciprocate. If I stay friends with him, he'll never actually be my friend, he'll just be biding his time hoping I'll change my mind.
On the other hand though, he's not just gonna hide his feeling. I'm gonna notice it even if he doesn't tell me, and it's gonna put me in an awkward spot.
It's really a lose lose. There's no not hurting him. Only salvation will be to put some distance after rejecting him, hope he moves on fast, and then try to reconnect after hes got a new girl he's interested in.
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>>18030400
She loves 69 and so do I. It's our default and I'd say we do that more often than anything. She says she gets incredibly turned on being eaten out and that gets me off.

Most of the time she orgasms twice before I cum from 69ing. She said she gets extremely turned on. She would do anything I say after giving her head. Naturally I'd tell her to suck me off while I continue eating her.

The first time was odd, taste and everything. I seem to have developed a taste for it and the smell makes me unnaturally hard.
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>>18030417
kek she might be trying to hook you up.

If not that, idk why the hell she would bring another dude with her if she was interested in you at all. But her going out of her way to tell you she's not interested in this dude is a weird call.
Chicks sending weird messages, unless she is trying to hook you up and thinks you're a faggot.
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>>18030172
any kind of faggotry is an automatic no for me
like any suspect feminine behavior

also depression and pretentiousness
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>>18030419
Well, I guess I will have to stay like this for some months. Thanks for the response, I really appreciate it!
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>>18030421
Fuck, I want me some of that. I've never been able to cum without using a vibrator. Closest I've ever gotten was from the half assed drunken oral I got once. I'm hoping there would be a single sexual activity I can share with someone that will make me cum and I really wanna find out if it is or not. Guys just aint enthusiastic about it though.
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Is it possibly to have a truly platonic relationship/friendship with someone of the opposite sex when you find them attractive?

I'm sort of becoming good buddies with my friend's girlfriend, but it's basically a highway to nowhere. There's absolutely nothing nefarious going on, but what is the potential level cap for our friendship? Honestly I'd like to open up to her about some personal things but I feel like I'm playing with fire.
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>>18030417
She could be nervous about going on the date with you, so this could be just her wanting to bring along a close friend to help ease her anxiety and break the ice. Maybe that's why shes telling you shes not interested in him and wants to bring him along
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>>18030433
The reason you're becoming good buddies with her is because you were her boyfriend's good buddy first. She trusts you because HE trusts you.

Don't fuck up that trust. There are some things better left unsaid. If you fuck up, you won't lose one of them, you'll lose them both.
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>>18030433
Don't do it, you're gonna end up fuggin and then your buddy is gonna be like wtf m8
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>>18030425
Lol who knows? She knows I'm not into guys though so that would be pretty weird

>>18030435
Is it a date?

We're going to watch a movie but afterwards we're both busy. Besides, I'm closer to her than this guy is
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>>18030414
You don't exist
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>>18029911
>>18029961
I am the girl. I've never been with a guy who has this so I just want to get some input. I read a lot online, but it doesn't go over what the woman can do when it's psychological, other than "don't take it personally". It's not physical because he'll wake me up in the middle of the night rearing to go. I want him to know that I still care about him regardless that he feels he is 'broken'. He's wonderful and I like being around him.
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>>18030451
I'd consider that like a mini date, sort of.

Also I take back what I said, I figured that her and this guy were close friends already. That is kinda weird that she wants to bring him along then. My only other possible explanation for this is maybe she wants to get DP'd?? I have no idea
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>>18030412
I cried like a little baby after rejecting my best friend because I felt so terrible for hurting him and so scared to lose him. But now we are a couple so it all turned out great.
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>>18030471
Do you genuinely like him as a relationship partner, or are you only with him out of pity?
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>>18030408
My gf is nice enough to guide me with her hands. She also loves to squeeze her thighs, locking my head in place saying it feels much better when she does that. It's also one of my fantasies for a woman to squeeze me between her thighs. It takes 20 minutes for my lady to orgasm, then 15 for subsequent orgasms. There's a learning curve but it's amazing the noises she makes when you git gud.

>>18030430
The only thing I look forward to now is to meet up and eat her out. I'm hungry for that shit. It's not all fun though. Pornos don't have much scenes of cunnilingus or they aren't long enough.
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>>18030474
I love him in every way imaginable. Being with someone out of pity is just cruel and silly.
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Yeah, I'm only 18 here, so it's not a big deal, but I go to an all boys school, with a dorm and everything, so I'm not out much, except my usual places. I gotta say, I have not talked to a girl since 8th grade, and it sucks, but I just can't talk to strangers (not specifically girls). Any tips?
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>>18030465
Well I told her not to invite him so I guess we'll have to find out about the DP thing lol
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>>18030417
Three possible things here imo:
1. Like the first guy said, she's nervous and wants to bring along someone else to ease the tension. Sometimes it's a lot easier to hang out in a group of three instead of two.
2. She's not all that into you either and wants you to know that.
3. She's for some reason not sure if you're really into her or not and wants a third party to help read you and she thought a guy could do it better than a girl.
>>18030430
>Guys just aint enthusiastic about it though.
Idk where you're looking for guys but most of the guys I'm friends with that get any action at all are pretty into it, myself included.
>>18030433
Yeah, it definitely is. My good friend's girlfriend is attractive but in the year that I've known her I haven't really ever thought about her sexually. I see her sort of the same way where I can look at a guy like Ryan Gosling and think "oh, he's attractive" without wanting to fuck him at all.
>>18030463
>it doesn't go over what the woman can do when it's psychological, other than "don't take it personally"
That's really all you can do. It's an issue with him not with you, so it's something he has to work out. The best way to show him that it's not a big deal to you is to not make a big deal out of it. If he says that there's something you can do to help (and it's something you're comfortable with) then do that, but otherwise if you try and pry it out of him or baby him through it, it's just gonna make him feels worse.
>t. guy who has had issues with performance anxiety
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>>18030481
True that lol, I would just ask her why she wants to bring him along. That's just me though. When it comes to things like that I tend to be more straightforward. It also depends a lot on who you're asking, some people get mad when you ask them why. Not sure if thats the right move in this situation
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>>18030307
Is this a troll page?
1. Get some better taste in music you absolute fucking pleb.
2. There is no way you that you can understand Zarathustra if that's the only book you like.
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>>18030478
Talking to strangers is a much easier hurdle than you think, and it is at least easier than talking to girls.

As for your all-boys schooling, this could work in your favor. Talk to girls just as you would talk to your guy buddies. Many women want to be treated like equals. Not all of them want to be treated like dainty fragile beings. You might have heard that there's a form of etiquette centered around talking to women, and it probably does exist. But really, as long as you don't call her a bitch, whore, or cunt, you're already doing well, my friend.
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>>18030507
Satyricon is great tbqh
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>>18030476
Huh, she takes less time to cum the second time around? Mine just get harder and harder until they stop lol.
Sorry, peeked at the reply above mine.
Anyway, yeah tell me about it. Like the only time I can ever find cunnilingus is between lesbians and I aint really into that. I wanna watch a man go down.
Well fuck your gf is a lucky lady. Hope to find someone who will go down on me one day.
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Ladies:
Does dick size matter if you want to be in a committed relationship with a guy? Like if you really like a guy and want to be in a relationship with him but then find out he's got a small jon is that detrimental to his chances of actually getting with you?
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>>18030461
There's no such thing as a girl who wants a virgin who doesn't get intoxicated. You don't exist.
Now it is your turn to prove I don't exist.
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>>18030489
> most of the guys I'm friends with that get any action at all are pretty into it,
hmm must by my area or something. Lot of them find it gross.
Might be because I'm an outie. I feel like guys would be more enthusiastic to go down on a neat porn star pussy, but less so the ugly beef curtains.
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>>18030537
Not a lady, but I think you need to tell us the exact measurements to get a good reply.
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>>18030542
>tfw I like beef curtains
It's fun to play with them with my mouth.
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>>18030537
Not really. Actually it would only matter if he were big, because then I probably would never have vaginal sex with him.
Penetration sucks. Its just uncomfortable with no pleasure whatsoever and most of the time just hurts. I'd take a smaller guy any day, less chance of jamming me too hard.

But seriously, if you're good with your hands your dick doesn't matter. Most women don't cum from penetration alone, some don't at all, you gotta work the clit. Your dick is likely not going to be what makes the majority of women cum, it's gonna be your fingers or tongue.
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>>18030556
Well shit where do I need to move to because I've had multiple men comment negatively on my lips to my face.
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>>18030563
They're not real men
Love me some beef stew
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>>18030542
I'd imagine that maybe guys who are just looking for a one-night stand might not want to do it but the guys I'm talking about are either looking for consistent hook-up or a relationship.
>>18030572
>love me some beef stew
First post of 4chan that's genuinely made me lol in quite some time
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>>18030559
Hmm I see. Good stuff, thanks for the input
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>>18030541
There are though. I'm not even religious, but you must at least know of religious women like that?
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>>18030489
>That's really all you can do. It's an issue with him not with you, so it's something he has to work out. The best way to show him that it's not a big deal to you is to not make a big deal out of it. If he says that there's something you can do to help (and it's something you're comfortable with) then do that, but otherwise if you try and pry it out of him or baby him through it, it's just gonna make him feels worse.
>>t. guy who has had issues with performance anxiety

Okay, thank you for your advice. It just makes me sad because how he sees himself is very different to how I see him.
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>>18030572
>beef stew
>pic related
>>18030584
Yeah perhaps. Dating scene is, well, basically nonexistent in my small college town. ONS and the rare fuckbuddy is about all you can get.
I had 2 buddies for a while, the one I'm fairly certain I lost though. Which is a shame, because he was the one that would go down at all, although, not with much heart.
One I've got left is like, completely repulsed by it. I get it, everyone's got their thing. I'm not gonna push his boundaries especially since he was so patient and understanding of mine.
He didn't comment on my shape so to speak though, so I'll take that as a plus.
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>>18030510
Yeah, I know. But I just can't talk to people. I just can never think of anything to say. I don't have any friends outside of school
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>>18030572
fuck forgot my pic fuck my life
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>>18030612
Get a job in some kind of customer service that forces you to interact with people. If you already have a job get involved in some kind of volunteer work that does the same. It will be frightening as fuck at first but eventually you'll realize that people are just people like you.
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Look for advice on both platonic and romantic relationships, And I live in a reasonably smaller town, but I live in Ohio so there's a town every 20 minutes every direction you go in. I did not grow up here, I'm not even from this state. I only live here because of a relationship i was in that I'm no longer in. It's not feasible for me to move at this time.

I'm almost 25, reasonably good looking from most women friends I've had/have. I'm smart, and always been regarded as funny, to the point of being encouraged to do standup by a few people throughout my life. Which I would, but have a fear of public speaking due to my lisp and the mocking that accompanied the first 14 years of my life before people tend to mature enough to not mock it. Skinny kinda, 5'9 140lbs. I can't gain weight working out. Tried it in Afghanistan. After a year of 1+hour weight sessions 4-5 times a week, gained 7 pounds by the end of it, and was weirdly skinny muscular. I was using supplements and everything.

Anyways I digress, I'm not concerned over my looks or for changing myself for anyone. I'm typically confident, just not with total strangers. My main problem is most my social life disappeared with my girlfriend (again not my hometown, everyone I've really known met through her). How do I go about establishing a social life again? It's not like dating where you can go online. I do have a few friends but they all live at least an hour or two away and their all night shifters.

2nd. Question: when is it acceptable to approach women that your a stranger. Women are everywhere, I'm just worried that it seems weird to approach women. Can't really go to bars or nothing, bc without having friends it feels weird.

3rd question: what are your females opinions on lisps. I have a mild lisp (not t's, but s's)
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>>18030626
>Get a job in some kind of customer service that forces you to interact with people.
I highly recommend this. Customer service forces you to interact with people of varying demographics. You can eventually get a feel for how to talk to not only strangers, but specific groups of people.

>If you already have a job get involved in some kind of volunteer work that does the same.
I would be more careful with this. Definitely pick volunteer work with a wide demographic. I once worked with a group where all the members were either old men, or nerds my age. No normal people. The community we worked for also consisted of old men and nerds.
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>>18030477
I was hoping someday to find an ideal relationship like that, but I guess it is not my time.

I feel such a shame hurting myself so much for something like this. I know you guys are going to start telling me to "ignore it and grow some balls" but I know everything I did is pretty bad to gain intrest and no wonder why there is better people than me in such matter.

I don't want to lose her, even if she is my friend I would do anything to make her happy, even if that hurts me to see her away but happy.
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>>18030533
She tells me the first time, she's just building up arousal. After the first, she's at peak arousal and I can go as fast as I'd like and she'll cum faster.
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>>18030662
"woe is me, i am a beta that can't stand chad taking over my crush"

dude, that is why you are single
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>>18030507
About the music, I hope you don't mean the rap stuff. I stand by that, even though those aren't exactly the names you always see as the greatests. The rest is just random shit I've come across, I don't really browse GOAT lists or whatever. Feel free to educate me, though.

I've had help understanding Zarathustra. I have an okay grasp on it, but obviously not perfect. The main idea in it, the recurrence, is something that rings painfully true to me, so, probably a better grasp than most tbqh.
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>>18030662
You'll get through it anon. You can find someone who will be your best friend and more.
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>>18030641
You probably have a job, talk to your coworkers. You can also just shake the dumb notion you can't go to bars by yourself/its awkward to. I go all the time. Drunks are the easiest people to talk to.
Hit up your friends for more, ask them to introduce you to some people. Yeah they live an hour away, but expanding your social circle is expanding your social circle. Take what you can get, someone's bound to know someone closer to you too.
>2
Cold approaches are hard, but you won't have any seriously negative time so long as you're good at reading the air. Does she seem disinterested, like she's looking for a way out of this conversation? Is she giving you short curt responses and then looking away? Ok, she's not wanting you to talk to her right now, end what you're saying and say goodbye. People are becoming more and more antisocial to strangers these days, either because of online dating, or that's why online dating is popular, idk which came first. But anyone who's tactful enough about it isn't going to get maced or anything.
And if a woman is really gonna be like "omg what a freak this guy tried to say hello to me??"
then wow, dodged a bullet there. She's the weird one.
>3
Well, I can't say it's attractive, but it's not that big a deal. We've all got our shit. I could get over that very easily, it wouldn't take much at all for me to see past it.
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>>18030676
Oh, I have a female best friend and I ws stupid enough to confess because she told me about a bit of intrest in me. She took a bit of space and we don't chat as much as before, but we still trust a lot each other and go out, even if she said no.

I am scared of what is the future of my friendship and how could it end, but thanks for your words. I won't lose hope in life!
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Girls: Would you be opposed to your man dressing in women's clothes?

To make something very clear, I'm not a frequent transvestite or anything. I just have a really funny idea for a costume (for Halloween/parties) that happens to require dressing in women's clothing.
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>>18030679
Hey Thanks for the reply.
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>>18030693
Not a chick but, i'd say if its a one time thing or a running gag you got for costume parties or something then I don't think thats too weird... But if you like to sit at home and put on womens clothes for no reason whatsoever... I think most women would be opposed to that. Everyone is different though of course, so there might be some chicks that are into it
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>>18030717
If it's a Halloween/costume party idea, try to find a girl (friend or partner doesn't matter) and see if she'll dress up like a pimp. You know, purple suit, feather in hat, cane type deal. Do that and as long as y'all at the same party or whatever it won't seem odd to anyone.
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>>18030626
Yeah, there's a difference between interacting and having a conversation. I can say please and thank you and shit, but not "hey what's your number"
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>>18030572
If you want to go down on girls beef curtains, that's your business, but don't drag being a man into it like you're some mega alpha or something.
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>>18030542
>I feel like guys would be more enthusiastic to go down on a neat porn star pussy, but less so the ugly beef curtains
Unfortunately that's exactly how I feel about it.
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