ITT: Ask the Opposite Gender Anything

Girls, what are some hobbies men can have that could make you interested?

Girls and guys

Is it ok if someone lives out their life without experiencing love or real sex?

>>18013815
If you pick up a hobby just to seem more interesting to women then it will have the opposite effect. People are attracted to other people who are interesting and interested. Genuinely enjoying a hobby is more attractive than faking it.

Caught up with a girl that I like in the train station. I flat-out told her that I like her and that we should hang out some time. She wouldn't maintain eye contact the whole time, but was also smiling at the same time. I jokingly told her, if she was scared or something to go out with me, but all she would do was laugh. She did tell me, "we could do something".

My question: would you say she is interested or did she say that out of pity?

Also, I'm 24 and she's going to be 22 soon.

>>18013828
Yes but only if that's what you actually want out of life.

>>18013815
Something you are passionate about.

I find activities done outside, moving, and cheap most attractive.
Like rock climbing, hiking, archery, kayaking are all the kinds of things I'm into.

>>18013828
Sure, just don't drag anyone down that wants romantic love from you.

>>18013845
She was probably flattered or shocked. I say text her in a couple of days and ask what she would like to do.

I know tumblrina feminists think they're working to change this particular stereotype, but in this case I think it applies: harden the fuck up.

She sounds like a bit of a shitty person. Your solution is to talk to her, not to get upset and cry. If she is making fun of you for being a crybaby then you probably are. Women like men to have emotions but not to express them so extremely.

>>18013884

>flattered or shocked

I'm leaning more towards her being flattered because one time I was in a circle talking to people and she randomly went over and grabbed by the hands and we just talked. When I caught up with her, I did say that she was pretty and I immediately said to myself that it was a dumb thing to say because if felt amateurish. She also changed the subject, maybe she did that so that I wouldn't fell dumb about it. I'll definitely ask her out. What's a good place to start with?

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I made a thread a day or two ago asking for help regarding going on a dinner date with a girl from work. She asked me out and said ok. Well, I went with her today after work and it was alright. The place was too loud and the food was mediocre, she picked the place. At the end of the date when we parted ways I hugged her and she seemed happy when I looked at her face afterwards. We also have a lot in common so it's easy to talk to her. However, I have two main problems; one, I'm not really physically attracted to her. She's slender and she dresses alright, but she doesn't seem to wear makeup or do much with her hair. In that sense, I feel she's lacking a certain feminine charm. I've always received compliments for my fashion sense and my presentability. Second problem: I'm introverted and greatly prefer to spend a lot of my time alone and doing my own thing. She's extroverted and bubbly and sometimes it gets on my nerves when she keeps trying to talk to me at work when I want to work. What should I even do next?

>>18013815
Literally anything that's not tv/video games. Everybody watches tv and most people play video games. Literally anything else. Oh, you like kayaking? Cool. Oh, you play guitar? Cool. Oh, you mess around in your garage and build shit? Cool. Oh, you collect first edition beekeeping encyclopedias? Cool.
Anything that shows you have interests and at the very least the drive to go out and participate in them

How could you go from "I really wanna move in with you" To "I don't love you anymore" in a couple weeks?

We didn't fight or anything. I don't get it.

>>18013924
>What should I even do next?
Get her fired.
Say that she's harassing you at work.

>>18013909
I say a place that has other activities, but it won't be the main focus.

Maybe a park or botanical garden?
Eating food or going to a cafe won't be bad.
Don't go to a movie or a really loud place.

Somewhere you can't talk is the worse.

>>18013924
If you aren't feeling it, just tell them.

>>18013929
There was no conflict at all?

>>18013891
That's not a question

To girls:
What, in a guy, makes you think about him when you masturbates?
And by the way, how often have you masturbated to strangers just 'cause they had something you liked about?

>>18013929
It could be just about anything judging by all those details.

>>18013808
girls:
Have you ever taken all the steps to message someone and then never done it? what was the reason?
>girl i know 3 years ago
>we were good friends
>we match on tinder
>she sends me a fb request immediatly
>send her a message on tinder
>no response
I mean even a friendzone would've been nice.

>>18013808
Sometimes I hear this vibrating thing from my female next door neighbor's room (in a dorm) that starts when she goes to bed and stays on all night. What the fuck is it, like a weird kind of white noise machine or something? Her room interior is totally normal though she is a big stoner.

>inb4 vibrator

>>18013845
She's probably interested but more than anything confused that you asked. It certainly wasn't out of pity, she wasn't making eye contact most likely because she was flustered. The fact that she was able to express interest in what was probably a pretty stressful situation for her bodes well.

>>18013959
Maybe she sleeps in one of those vibrating beds/chairs. It's pretty cool.

>>18013961

Why would she be confused?

>>18013961
Because it's pretty unusual for a stranger to be that candid. If some girl walked up to you and told you something like that point-blank, you would probably be caught off-guard, even if you were really down/really flattered.

>>18013983
>>18013964

>>18013828
Sure but don't fucking complain to me about it.

Girls, odd question by I suppose that's what it's for.

Is having had cancer a turn off and or a worry for you in terms of dating partners?

>>18013992
The worries I would have is the cancer reappearing. It would be hard to deal with the financial hardship and possible death of a love one.

The second would be infertility, because of possible chemo.

>>18013828
Yes, as long as you don't hurt anyone is ok.
Normies won't understand it and will >>18013828
always look down on you tho.

>>18013845
Yes

>>18013996
Infertility is hit or miss when doing chemo. There's no way to predict whether or not for sure it will affect you and I never got a chance to store sperm because at the time I was underage and the doctors got into a schedule quick and I never really had the chance.

Depending on the cancer, it's more likely to reappear. Stuff like Hodgkins Lymphoma is cureable, and isn't as likely to come back. Hell, just cancer treated with chemo is less likely to come back versus stuff that's just cut out in surgery - however, it's all a diceroll, and cancer is ultimately unpredictable in how it will pop up and whether or not it will stay away.

@Girls
How long would you let a guy off after matching on Tinder? I'm preoccupied to be doing anything of the sorts for the next few days, so i'm holding off on replying to the match, but i'd like to make sure tgat I don't lose em' you feel?

Thanks in advance

>>18013929
she's been cucking you the whole time.
Welcome to the real world kid.

>>18013845
There's a good chance she just was taken aback by it, wasn't expecting it etc. but still wants to see you. When it's time to see her in the coming weeks or what have you you'll get your answer. It's just too early to call so stay tentative but don't count yourself out.

Also it's probably better to avoid jokes like that moving forward, unless she knows you like that.

>>18014004
I'm sure other people would be able to handle your situation, but personally I may not be able to.
The probability that your cancer could come back and you may not be fertile is too intense for me to handle.
I'm sure other women wouldn't mind at all.

>>18014011
Understandable, it's something I've worried about for a while. As long as I'm not infertile I'm fine, even with it coming back.

It hurt my family at first but I think as long as I kept a positive outlook on treatment, I could keep them happy. They still worry a lot, but that's to be expected from family.

>>18014013
I'm glad you have such a positive outlook.

Please take what I said with a grain of salt.

>>18014017
Yeah, of course. Thanks for the replies.

Girls,
I'm going to break out with you.
Where and how should I do it to cause the least amount of drama and not hurting you too much?

>>18013808
People around me always tell me that I should be able to get a girlfriend. I'm not sure if they're just trying to be nice or if they're clueless. I'm pretty fat but fairly good looking (/soc/ ratings and what I know from other people) with very wide shoulders, beard, I'm tall, etc.
I don't really feel like I deserve a girlfriend before I lose the weight, but at the same time I'm not really motivated.

If I just worked on my attitude would that work or do I really need to get fit before I can even try? I'm not sure to be honest.

>>18014045
Guy here, you don't need to get fit to get a gf, it would help tho, and you should do it anyway for your own good.
Have you tried asking girls out? have you ever been in a relationship before?

>>18014057
I asked a girl out in highschool, that's it. No real relationships, no.

>>18014064
Well that's how you get in relationships in the first place, you leave your comfort zone, you find a girl you like and ask her, if she says yes, get to know her and get her to know you and see if you can escalate it from there,
You probably seen guys fatter than you with gfs, which making the 'being fit to get a gf' argument totally worthless, it's more about confidence and being interesting to catch their attention.
But again, working out may help your self-stem and make you easier to caught the attention of the ladies.

This might sounds like a joke question, but I'm serious. What counts as losing your virginity? Does just the tip, like an inch or two, count?
Me and this girl were grinding on eachother and we got a little overexcited and I slid the tip in. She said it just felt like I was "rubbing around the entrance" and not like I had penetrated her, but when I looked down it seemed pretty clear that my head was definitely inside her.
Am I still a virgin?

is it weird to go up to a girl I never talk to and start a conversation, I sort of know her and she said hi to me a couple times last year..

>>18014097
You're a guy, virginity has next to no meaning for you.

>>18014105
Then if you want to look at it from another perspective, did she lose her virginity?

>>18014097
You've either fucked for real or you haven't. If you have to ask about technicalities then it's pretty clear. As a guy when you have sex and actually orgasm from that "session" then you know 100% you aren't a virgin anymore.

>>18014086
I guess so. I'm just super scared of becoming "that guy". The fat guy who's trying to pick up girls and miserably failing, the guy who is making girls uncomfortable by asking them out, etc.

>>18014103
depends, if you are attractive or not.

>>18014109
yup, she's officially a slut.
Or at least I wouldn't put my penis in her used, unpure vagoo.

>>18014139
like I'd say I'm a 6.5/10

>>18014115
well if your problem is being fat, you are lucky because that's something you can take care of. As I see it, is more about personality and how you get along with the girl, But in the end getting in shape will improve your life even without a gf.

>>18014143
then I wouldn't talk to her out of the blue, maybe if you are in the same class or club, it's ok then, out of the blue on campus is definitely something that I will not advice doing.
do you have her added in social media?

>>18014147
unfortunately no, but we are in band together, but that's about it.

>>18013951

Yeah. I wasn't sure if I wanted to continue the nebulous relationthing we had going. Or rather, I thought I wanted to, but deep down the rational part of me was screaming no while I poured the rest of me into that message.

He dumped me the day after I got a haircut without explaining why, anyway. Messaged me when the hair had grown back but I wasn't putting up with that shit.

>>18014153
if you are in a band together that's enough of a connection to talk to her. But yet again, if you are going to talk to her have something to say.

>>18013959

Vibrator.

Or white noise machine, or humidifier (mine gets super noisy when it's out of water), or tattoos, or maybe she's really hairy and uses a trimmer.

>>18013992

A little bit. I know survivors but it also depends on how bad the cancer is. If you're terminal, there's probably something seriously wrong with the girl who doesn't hesitate to date/fuck you.

>>18014157
Alright, thanks for the advice!

>>18014031

It's break up, not break out. Breaking out is for when you're escaping jail.

Assuming you mean break up, do it in a cafe near her place so she can run home and cry, but be a gentleman and buy her the coffee. Also get a cold drink in case she throws the coffee on you.

Say it as soon as you can, and say it short. Explain why. No excuses.

If you're breaking out, where are you trapped and should we call the police?

>>18014169
yeah, I meant break up. English isn't my first language, you don't have to be an asshole about it.

>>18014169
I think it was pretty obvious what he meant. Be nicer

>>18014115

Making girls uncomfortable has nothing to do with your weight. It's all about your attitude.

Pick one girl per location and friend group. Do NOT serially ask all the girls in one friend group out, especially in a close space of time. Do NOT try to plead your case after the first "no". Whining about being a "nice guy" makes you the capital-letters-/r9k/-lurking Nice Guy who is anathema to every girl who even remembers for a brief moment that he exists.

When you DO ask that one girl out, be confident. Smile, make eye contact, and try to appear and sound as nonthreatening as possible, because you ARE a threat until proven otherwise.

>>18014176
>>18014171

The hell happened to 4chan? Fucking normalfags.

Girls,
if you invite a guy (coworker) to spend the night at your place "to watch movies", it's pretty much understood that you are expecting sex or I shouldn't a move on her unless she initiates?

>>18014181
There is no way she doesn't want to bang
This is pretty much just asking for "Netflix and chill" except a little more vague and not a facebook meme that's now as forward as just asking to fuck.

>>18014186
are you an actual girl or a girl (male)?
also, if that's the case I missed a huge chance. No wonder why she stopped talking to me.

Why do so many girls seem to go on /adv/ compared do the other boards? When I'm on, like, /v/ or /g/ I assume I am 100% talking to males. When I'm on /adv/ I just don't know.

>>18014186
>There is no way she doesn't want to bang
but there is.

its a 50/50 chance honestly. two people can hang out and watch movies without having to fuck each other.

girls and guys
is porn similar to standing outside a window and beating it while they have sex
is it disgusting?

>>18014188
because there are not gender exclusive threads on those boards, have you been on >>>/cgl/ ??? the board is full of smelly cunts. >>>/vp/ also have a lot of girls in there.
And for the lewd >>>/soc/ was exclusively made so these girls could let their inner whore out.

>>18014193
it's not similar because if you are looking people behind a glass window is very likely that they are looking back which is weird and also you are probably not the only one that have done that in that precise place.

>>18014200
is porn wrong/bad though?

>>18013983
I'd be downright sceptical and possibly dismissive, I've never been approached like that except for trying to sell me something or trying to fuck with me.

>>18013983
I've been approached like that before and I thought it was a joke of my coworker but turned out this girl really liked me.. too bad she was uninteresting as fuck, even thought she say she really wanted to talk to me, she never said anything and I was really going out of my wait to find conversations topics to which she would answer in one of two worlds.
So yeah, I would say girls are more used to it tho.

>>18014187
You probably didn't miss much, I've had the exact same thing happen but she threw me out slapped me and stopped talking to me when I tried to kiss her.

How do I stop being shit at reading signals
First I ignored a girl's advances because I was afraid of reading too into her kindness and fucking blew it as a result
Now I've done the reverse and was sorta blown off and I feel like I need to jump ship now if I don't want to make things more awkward. I'm more or less okay with this I guess
Actually is not at all but the bigger issue is that I'm seemingly inept at reading girls and I don't know what to do

>>18014233
There is no magic rule for reading women's signs.


Each woman is different and their signs are all different, one woman's "good god fuck me NOW" is the next woman's "if you touch me I'll rip your dick off with a straw" all you can do is keep trying.

Girls/Guys:

How to deal with a girl who doesn't really do anything in bed?

I've been dating my girlfriend for 8 months. We get along pretty well, and she seems to and always says that she does enjoy herself whenever we have sex (usually whenever we see each other, which is only once or twice a week). I feel its also worth saying that I'm not her first boyfriend, and she has a lot more sexual experience than me.

I've discussed this problem with her before, because she was giving me absolutely 0 foreplay. Like wasn't even touching my dick ever unless I told her to. But I don't like having to tell her to do it (I was finding it a turn off to have to tell someone to do something that I considered pretty basic), so we came to an agreement where she'll give me a blowjob/handjob after I finish kissing her back (which is a major turn on for her, and thus I do it pretty much every time we have sex). This still happens, but outside of that, practically nothing. After more discussion, she's started to sort of take off my clothes during foreplay, which I guess is some progress.

tl;dr: Girlfriend doesn't take any kind of initiative in bed, what do?

>>18014156
sorry that you were treated so poorly, no one ever deserves to feel thrown away like that. but atleast you had the satisfaction of turning him away and knowing you were better than him.
Guess what i did to this girl isn't much different, cut her off in a friend purge i do every couple years.

>>18014239
>dating roasties
found your problem. She probably is done experimenting on sex because she already did anything she wanted to with her previous partners.

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This is a dumb question but, I used to like this girl in this program we are in. I shit where I slept, and things went south with me and her. It's rare we talk, and we completely ignore one another, although one day we talked for quite a bit.

Anyways, at the program, we were working out, and the instructors had a barbell set up with 135. I went ahead and OHPd it, and did tricep extensions with heavy weight with ease, although it was tiring. Other guys around were unable to do it, and I did it primarily to work out. However, I realized what I was really doing, and I was showing off to her. Would you have thought I was showing off for her?

Sorry for the autistic story

>>18014239
Honestly i've had multiple partners like this, i think they either have the drive or they don't.
Guy here, stopped touching my long term gf's pussy at all besides sex because i just thought she was disgusting after a while, not sure why or how it happened, but i stopped eating her out, fingering her, and cut the sex short on purpose because of it.

>>18014256

She does have very little in the way of sex drive, which I'm sure is part of the problem. I understand that and its why I don't really expect her to initiate sex, but she says that she almost always gets into the mood once the foreplay starts. I definitely don't find her disgusting, just starting to get frustrated at her lack of interest, I guess.

I want to meet a nice trustworthy girl to have a relationship with, but I'm too autistic to know how to "put myself out there" and put my handsome face to good use. Wat do?

How am i supposed to start up a convorsation with a girl via text? If i dont have a direct reason to text them beyond my desire to talk to them i feel like im being a nuisance

>>18014193
People do porn with the express knowledge that people will watch and jerk off. Your neighbors have not consented to it, so yes it's pretty wrong. Voyeurism still isn't even the same because at that point they're effectively inviting you to enhance their kink, on some level you are a participant.

>>18014188
Women tend to be more social creatures. Plus at the end of the day videogames and computers are still a firmly male hobby. So they're pretty common on /adv/ and /soc/, but they're also common on say, /an/ which makes sense considering its an interest with a more even gender distribution.

is a bear physique even attractive to girls?

>>18014329
lol no

Girls, why do you like suffocating on dicks?

Girls, why are you all such cunts?

>>18014396
I don't.

>>18014329
Yes to some no to others.

I mean I see women in their mid 20s who still obsess over the twink physique.

This is a problem concerning a guy, but I wouldn't mind replies from either gender. I just don't think it's big enough to warrant its own thread.

Basically, my boyfriend becomes a huge dipshit on the internet. I was having a conversation online with someone about something that means a lot to me and I dedicate my life to, and he jumped in basically saying "HEY PERSON, REMEMBER THAT ARGUMENT WE HAD TWO YEARS AGO WHERE YOU WERE AN IDIOT? WELL YOU'RE STILL AN IDIOT XDDDD". I asked him not to do that and he basically told me no, that I can't control when he can call people out.

What do I do? I don't even really like the guy I was talking to all that much and I'm afraid of a big argument starting over him, but I told my boyfriend 'Please stop, it's making me uncomfortable' and he told me no.

>>18014399
Because our beta forefathers created laws that protect bitches.

>>18014411
It's all about his pride. I can say that as a guy. It's another example of dickwaving on the internet. "We had an argument and I'm going to hold it over your head."

What exactly were you discussing? Like, what lead to this sort of reaction from your boyfriend?

>>18014418
The conversation that I was having with the guy was about mental health classifications. He was sharing resources with me and I was giving my feedback on them as I work in the field.

The argument the guy and my boyfriend had was over Super Smash Brothers. I kid you not. He decided to bring all of that up in a discussion about mental health.

>>18014422
I know that it's not really a solution, since you probably just want him to stop being dumb, but was this a conversation the public can view? Like, on Facebook or some shit, in the form of comments? I'd try better to just converse in private if he's being that dumb and doesn't change.

If you don't wanna do that though, and do expect him to stop, then I'm not exactly sure what to tell you. You said it made you uncomfortable and if he says no, there's not much else I can think of that wouldn't be you insulting him for being an idiot on the internet, or just refuse to talk to him for being an idiot in general. Cold shoulder. I imagine those aren't routes you want to go down though.

>>18014428
I'm unintentionally giving him the cold shoulder right now because I just can't bear speaking to him right now. Your girlfriend that you've loved for four years asks you to please not do one thing because it makes her feel uncomfortable, but dickwaving and being an asshole on the internet is more important than that? I didn't even tell him to stop being an asshole to the guy or being an asshole in general, I just asked him to not butt into my conversations to be an asshole.

>>18014405
the only reason I ask is because, I'm considering lifting. I'm a skinny manlet but my genetics are to be chubby and muscular

>>18014430
You're such a fucking pussy, jesus christ.

>>18014433
Sounds pretty fucking annoying to me. Being interrupted by a retard is never fun.

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>>18014431
There's a lot of wiggle room between being skinnyfat and bear mode.

>>18014422
He sounds incredibly immature, and I don't really see you getting him to change his behavior. You expressed your issues and he basically went "lol nah". Your request was reasonable, but if he refuses to listen then your options are basically to deal with it or leave as far as I can tell. I'd maybe give them another chance to see if their mind changes after they slept on it, but not much past that.

I can kind of understand why he did it, because I have an urge to be that guy that corrects or argues with people constantly on facebook because I have very limits. But I also understand others don't appreciate it.

>>18014447
very different limits, that is. Words are hard.

>>18014430
>He's implying that I only care about him being an asshole because the person is showing interest in my career.

Welp, this isn't going to end well.

Girls, I need your opinion
What are the chances a friend of mine which I kissed last week and left for 4 months remains being into me when she comes back in summer?
I already had a situation like this back in last years summer, we flirted she returned to study out of the country and we made out when she came back.
Were still friends and we have not spoken about this yet

>>18014430
>>18014422
>>18014411
>told me no, that I can't control when he can call people out.
What the fuck. This is called respect and tact. He's being disrespectful. How disappointing.

>>18014522
You already know that it's possible, because you've been in a similar situation. We've never met her so we can't know how much she likes you, no matter what you tell us.

>>18014255
I wouldn't really assume that.

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>>18014527
I'm showing him evidence of him browbeating me and he just keeps asking me to drop the subject.

Why do people have to be like this?

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So I've been dating this Catholic girl for 3 months now, and everything is going well except for a few things that bother me:

-Even if she is really drunk and horny she will not have sex for religious reasons.
-She will literally go a week without messaging me.

Now look, as I am looking to convert myself, I have no problem with not getting sex, but if she isn't a virgin there's no point in waiting. How do I ask her if she is? Maybe next time when it's in the heat of the moment?

She is always doing something like study or work, but she still chats to her friends, so I worry that if she rarely talks to me, she's not that interested. On the other hand, 99% of the time I arrange to meet with her she might even skip work to do it. Perhaps I need to chill out, but all my friends in relationships talk to their girls at least every second day.

Can I get second opinions from anyone?

>>18014534
It's because people put themselves into shitty situations.

That's just the truth.

I get the feeling this is less about advice, and more about venting. You too are probably stuck in a shitty situation, which is the only reason why you bother putting up with his shit.

So now he's not showing you any respect because he doesn't feel he needs to. There are no repercussions. Where this manipulative attitude comes from, I couldn't say. It seems common enough, perhaps some desire for a modicum of control in their lives. To feel important.

Now, I don't know the whole story, because nobody ever tells the whole story.

If I had to hazard a guess though, I would assume that your boyfriend is of the belief that you and this other guy may be in regular contact, or even cheating. It could explain his disrespect, and seeming need to interject as though catching somebody in the act. It's quite possible his intent was to discourage future contact through by being passively aggressive towards this other individual. I'm not going to ask for the story, so don't bother sharing it. At any rate, it seems like a global lack of communication. He might feel that he himself would need to either prove or disprove his theory of what is going on, as he may not feel he can trust you for whatever reason, so he keeps it to himself. He can't apologize yet, because he may still feel that you are effectively against him.

Either way, a compromise must be made. Sometimes you have to do a little more than you're comfortable with in order to prevent having to outright walk away.

So, he's either hurt, or a butt-munch.

Take your pick, I guess.

I feel uncomfortable with being hit on or being sexualised. How can I become more comfortable with being hit on when I don't like being thought of in that way? Female here btw.

>>18014583
Define being hit on.

>>18014544
You know what gets a catholic girl off.
Walking the camino de santiago

>>18014591
When people flirt with me.

Guys: Honestly, what is the right balance between having an open and honest relationship and being a passive-aggressive mess that bottles everything up and explodes every six months?

My boyfriend had a manipulative relationship for a long time and you can tell he's trying to adjust back. I never get personal or angry or violent during arguments, but my method is always "We're going to sit here and talk things out until there's no hard feelings". This is what he wants on paper, but when I do it, he gets annoyed and impatience and is desperate for me to shut up. His favourite line is something like "Can we finish this now? I have about a million other things I could be doing right now".

What exactly does he want?

What does it mean when a girl says she doesn't plan anything and just let things happen?

I asked the girl that I like out and she said this. Is she not looking for anything serious?

>>18014655
Yeah, anything besides a definitive yes is a rejection.

>>18014660

Weird, because I told her that I like her and I asked her out and she said yes.

>>18014655
it means she isn't a self-righteous bitch and wants you to take care of everything because she is too fucking lazy to bother.

>>18014544
just ask her if she's a virgin or not

>>18013924

Some of this sounds sliiightly like you're bias'ing yourelf against her because you just don't *think* it would work/don't want it to work (That introvert vs extrovert stuff is all total bull shit. If you met the right person, you wouldn't give a shit.)

But it also sounds like you're just not gelling.

If that's the case, just say so. Is what it is.

>>18013929
>How could you go from "I really wanna move in with you" To "I don't love you anymore" in a couple weeks?

They weren't that sure they wanted to move in with you in the first place and were just kind of doing it because they felt like the should, and at some point realized... Oh... maybe not.

>>18014233
>How do I stop being shit at reading signals
Practice and experience. Talk to a lot of women, try to go on a lot of dates, fail a lot, succeed a lot, learn, get better.

>>18014239
>How to deal with a girl who doesn't really do anything in bed?

Take small steps and try to guide them. Sounds like that's what you're doing, and it sounds like you're getting progress.

You could also try introducing a new scenario during a special moment and see if it makes them excited to do it. (Like you go on a trip to a new city you've never been to, have a romantic day, and when stuff gets to the bedroom you "spontaneously" introduce something like wax play or roleplay, or aggressive dominance, or whatever).

If they're enjoying it too, they're more likely to try to replicate the moment.

>>18014411
>my boyfriend becomes a huge dipshit on the internet
This is kind of a matter of respect. Sounds like your boyfriend doesn't realize he's being disrespectful.

Let him know he is. This is shit YOU care about, and him interrupting you to shit post about has nothing to do with what he can or cannot do, it has to do with him obviously disrespecting the things you care about.

Honestly, I don't think there's anything you can do about this one. He sounds like he's just an immature as heck person.

>>18014653
>What exactly does he want?
If I had to take a stab at it, I'd guess he doesnt take your issues seriously. If I was being needled about the trash when I was dealing with something more pressing, I'd probably react the same way.

Will I ever find a girl who drives better than me?

>>18014544
>So I've been dating this Catholic girl for 3 months now, and everything is going well except for a few things that bother me:

1.) It shouldn't really matter if she's a virgin or not. She's choosing to do what she's choosing to do. Also, I hope you aren't trying to convert yourself to be with her, and are actually sincere about it
2.) Nothing you can do about this. Peoples communication habits are what they are.

>>18014583
>I feel uncomfortable with being hit on or being sexualised. How can I become more comfortable with being hit on when I don't like being thought of in that way? Female here btw.

I'm a male but basically this boils down to: Become comfortable with who you are.

The reason you're uncomfortable is probably because there's a certain level of you not feeling like you can see yourself being something worth venerating, and so you reject it. It's similar to people who are uncomfortable when they get complimented.

Do what you need to do to become comfortable in your skin. Either approach it from the physical side (work-out, excercize, etc), or approach it from the mental side (strive to become the type of person you always wanted to be via accomplishments or by changing your personality, or pushing yourself to do things that are outside of your zone of comfort).

Once you are genuinely comfortable with yourself, ANYTHING anyone says, positive or negative, tends to not matter at all to you because you are what drives yourself.

>>18014653
>Guys: Honestly, what is the right balance between having an open and honest relationship and being a passive-aggressive mess that bottles everything up and explodes every six months?

Honestly, it sounds like this relationship dynamic is completely fucked up.

At this point you guys either need to take a break and reassess, or just go your separate ways. Otherwise things will continue along the status quo. It's hard to change, but it sounds like he needs a jolt to do it.

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>>18014544
>>18014696

My choice to convert is entirely seperate to her, it just so happens that we have the same worldview. It really does matter in the context of Christianity. Besides ----->pic, I actually like her and want it to be long term.

Well, if you're right about communication habits then I guess I should just stop worrying. I only really care because I'm used to noticing it as a signal of interest.

>got cheated on
>feel really broken
>3 year long relationship
>came to a close about 4 months ago
>been dieting and working out entire time
>went from obese to average
>still feel really lonely
>antisocial and introverted as it was
>she made it a lot worse
>hanging out with friends feels like a chore
>i don't have any fun, i'd rather just sulk and be alone
>i keep forcing myself to see my friends a few times a week thinking i'll get out of it
>it's not working
>i'm basically in a cocoon
>i go to work, and then I go immediately home
>video games are still cool I guess.

Why am I a loser now? Three years ago, before I met her, I wasn't like this. I wasn't fat either, I got fat during our relationship.

>>18014688
No.

>>18014711

It's good that you're doing it for you but on that pic...

1.) That is a graph from 15 years ago.

2.) That graph says absolutely NOTHING about whether the relationship is successful/happy or not, just that they're not divorced. I know plenty of absolutely miserable couples that are still together, where it's obviously wrecking them to still be together.

3.) Correlation =/= Causation. There is nothing there that says the reason why they're still together is directly because they had less partners. The reason easily could be that a lot of people who have less partners counts tend to have certain particular values that either make it so they're willing to trap themselves in a relationship that doesn't work, or they are the type who is just less sex/romantic driven to begin with, or they they're afraid to move on because they know nothing else, or any number of other factors.

Moreover there is nothing that says that a lot those same values do not exist outside of that pocket.

I used to be committed to being abstinent until marriage (I directly had numerous chances to not be, but I active chose to be) and that lasted until I was 24. But even I never bought in to all the rhetoric because I always knew: All of those statistics and "proof" are circumstantial at best, and what really matters is that I'm doing things for my own reasons, based off of my own beliefs because it's me who lives me life--not something someone else who is trying to stretch the truth to fit and push their own agenda is telling me is true.

Don't limit yourself based off of hearsay (because that's basically what this is, like I said, there is no proof or absolutely link of causation), always keep an open mind and decide for yourself.

Even in your faith, the strongest believers are not those who follow blindly, but those who ho doubt and who debate the truth, who take it upon themselves to critically think about the situation, and then decide for themselves to believe.

>>18014711
>basing your decision of whom to marry on meme graphs made by a religious anti-sex group

The sad part is that you actually might pass on your genes.

My questions are directed more towards women, but any man may feel free to contribute aswell.

First some background info:
I am a 25 years old, friendless, dateless, kissless virgin and, without saying, I never had a girlfriend.
Now over the years my sexual frustration grew a little bit since only strocking my dick with my hands got somewhat boring.
So I decided to get a vibrating anal butt plug to try something different - ty porn, for the inspiration.
Well, as it turns out anal stimulation doesn't really excite me... I am kind of indifferent about it.

So let's asume, someday I might get lucky, maybe get a girlfriend.
>Would this be something offputing for women, that a man tried anal stimulation?
>Would it make me seem less masculine?
>I wonder if a woman might find it out somehow, e.g. when she'd try to stimulate me analy...

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>>18014778
>>18014832

Well hey, anecdotally it makes sense to me, from what I've seen. I'm not telling anyone else how they live, I tend to lean towards tradition (within reason of course).

>>18014715
No idea.
Maybe you still aren't over her?
Keep hanging out with your friends. Maybe pick up a new hobby?

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>>18014839

Another interesting infographic for you to read.

>>18014832
It would be off-putting for me, but only slightly.
Honestly, you wouldn't even have to tell me.

The only discussion that would come up in if we were doing "A never have I ever" game.

I say keep it to yourself unless someone brings it up. I'm not telling all my friends how and what I like to do or did in bed.

>>18014839
All those meme graphs have been debunked over and over again, you know.

>>18014844
>>18014839
>>18014846
wow, I became even less attractive...
who would think it's possible

and I am neither small, fat nor stupid...

>>18014832
I've been mildly interested in having anal play during sex.

I've brought it up with two different girls.

I can't remember the reasons for the first one, it was probably on a drunken night, and we were probably talking about anal, in general as a subject, I.e. putting it in her pooper, and I segwayed into me myself being interested slightly.


A few weeks later, she bent me over, and jammed a finger up there.. Which, isn't exactly how I wanted the experience to happen, and we broke up shortly after that.

My last girlfriend, I brought it up jokingly like "hey, whatever I'm cool, I'll try anything once" And she was also willing to help me in that department, but I never took her up on it because i'm a pussy. But, she did bring it up multiple times over the course of our relationship, so she was certainly interested in penetrating my asshole.

>>18014853
I'd be interested to see them debunked, do you have a link or something?

>>18014856
very interesting to hear, ty for your coment

I do not know if I am even interested in pegging, probably not, though there are wome open mided at least

Do women like rimming / anilingus?

>>18014858
Not that anon but the graphs debunk themselves when they incorrectly label a correlation is a causal relationship without any facts to back it up.

The fact that these charts are pure propaganda is so blatantly obvious.

Im 26 and never had a girlfriend before, never had sex, done other stuff tho. Most of it (I thought) was because I was obese and gross to look at. Fine, it was a good excuse for my failure with women.

I'm not obese anymore, I look pretty good actually, starting lifting and everything. Still cant attract women. I think it might be because of the way I act. I developed a funny and goof personality being obese my whole life, had to or else I wouldnt have any friends. I've mostly kept this as I lost weight, although self deprecating fat jokes aren't possible anymore and I come off as a douche if I do them now, so I stopped...mostly. Anyway, I feel like I got everything going well, my confidence is up, I dont have issues talking to people, men or women, and like I said, I'm pretty funny. Why aren't women attracted to me? I always get complimented on how fun I am to be around, girls are laughing and smiling at me, yet they never want to go out with me. I always think maybe I'm coming off as creepy and misinterpreting signs, but my friends (men and women) insist that im not.

So what's going on? I'm enjoyable to be around, but I guess im not "desirable" why is that? I feel I may be coming off as too goofy, to the point of being clownish. I dont get it. I know you guys cant really know unless you interact with me irl, but there's gotta be some advice you can give, some insight.

>>18014872
Could you explain? I'm not so smart...

>>18014858
First, if you look at the actual source data they claim to use, there is no data like they claim. At all. And they do not disclose their methodology.

>>18014878

Since you're no longer fat and still sociable, the chances are that some girl(s) out there are attracted to you. How many girls have you asked don't since losing weight and what has the response been like? Are you going for new girls or girls who knew you as a fat person before? It could also be a case that since you're used to acting in friendly manner due to your past experiences, you are now acting just friendly too and girls start to see you as just a friend. Be flirty and make it clear you are interested, before you ask them out. Girls like the build up and developing attraction.

>>18014878
You still have quite a bit of self esteem to build up mate. It's a tough one to tackle I know, and it's frustrating trying to build that shit up.
It's a bit of a, idk, paradox? To be confident enough in yourself to attract women, you have to be able to handle rejection and not let it get to you. Once you get to the point where you can honestly stop caring that women aren't paying attention to you, is when they will start paying attention to you.
It's part of the reason why people say you'll never find a relationship until you stop searching for it, that kind of thing.

The thing that stuck out to me most was
>I always think maybe I'm coming off as creepy
That's one of the most common thing I see with guys with self esteem issues. The thing about being seen as "creepy" is this. If you think you're gonna be creepy, then you are. Only because you're not going to act normally since you're second guessing your every action and already assuming my thoughts on you before you even do anything at all. You're your own worst enemy on this. Whatever you think you're gonna be like is going to show in your body language and general aura. If you think you're gonna be creepy, you're gonna show it. Alternatively, if you think you're gonna be amazing, pull it off, and have no doubt at all she's gonna wanna talk to you because look at ya, why wouldn't she? Then you're more likely to have a positive experience.

>>18014888
http://cdn.freedomainradio.com/FDR_2899_Marriage_Partners_Study.pdf

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/

I dunno, it seems like it does exist dude. Sorry to sink your boat.

>>18014879
It's the difference between saying

"X and Y happened."
You can't argue with that

and

"X happened because of Y."
this is requires proof which those charts do not offer.

this might help explain
http://www.businessinsider.com/spurious-correlations-by-tyler-vigen-2014-5

I'm coming off a breakup 3 months ago. I feel kinda depressed about everything even though it's what I wanted and I'm supposed to feel better. There's this girl I fancy but I'm afraid to ask her out or to even talk to her because she knows I just had a breakup. What should I do? I feel like I keep wallowing in misery. I don't really talk to all my old friends either because they're also friends with my ex and I find everything weird now.

>>18014905

The correlation still exists though.

Ladies:
What's the expiration on flirting? What I mean, let's say a guy shows interest, what's the time frame you use to determine whether he's just flirting or he's interested?
To provide a scenario:
>See the same girl everyday
>pretty much ignore her for about 4 months
>decide one day, on a whim, to give her a smile and a wink
>she blushes and smiles back
>now she always looks for me
>I always give her a smile
How long before she thinks I'm just screwing around?

>>18014908
So what? Like the other anon said they didn't reveal their methodology either so they might as well have made up their entire data set for all we know.

>>18014869
>Some do some don't.

Personally, my asshole was solely made for dropping waste and I do not desire for it to play any other role at all. Only thing my ass should be doing during sex is being slapped.
>>18014832
Similarly to above, it would not be my cup of tea personally, however so long as it's your ass and I don't have to directly touch it, I would probably humor my bf at least once with something like pegging if he asked. Never tried it so I couldnt make any promises it'd be a regular thing, I'd be willing to try though.

>>18014904
You deliberately misread my post. The data exists, but it does not contain anything resembling their claims. You would know if you actually read the links you post.

>>18014878

I want to add something to the creepy speech here >>18014900. This Anon is right about second guessing yourself a lot (it really messes your chances up).

But it's not wrong to keep in mind that what you do could be creepy. Here's the thing: Look at the other person. Try to gauge their reaction. It will be hard at first, but with time you'll get better at it. The point is, what's creepy to some isn't to others. What's cool to some isn't to others.

People like hanging out with you? Then you are not coming off as creepy. But are you hitting on girls that are looking for a relationship? Are they single? Are they looking for a one night stand? Are they looking for an artist? What do they want?

Don't overgeneralize and don't take it to heart. Just because she isn't into you doesn't mean you are doing something wrong. She just isn't into you.

>>18014906

You need to normalise the situation to feel normal again. Act like you acted before the relationship even happened and treat you friends like you did before the relationship happened. It will feel weird in the beginning, sure, but it will create a routine of normalcy soon enough and you'll start getting over her. Wallowing in self pity will prevent any recovery altogether.

>>18014914

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/nsfg_cycle5.htm

I guess the data files are what they based the charts off.

>>18014920
Thanks but it's really harder than it sounds. I am over her though, but I'm not over feeling tired and depressed from all the hardships and shit. I find it really really hard to reach out to people these days.

>>18014930
Have you actually taken a look at the data? I have. It's nothing like the graphs would make you believe. It's not "here's your number of sexual partners and their divorce rates".

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If a guy has a very large sum of money (like enough to live comfortably in the bahamas for the rest of your life) and lied about it for several years, even going as far as buying an office and filling it with paid actors to make it look like he has a job when you come visit, would you be mad at him when he finally trusts you and tells you he isn't actually poor?

>>18014996
>buying an office and filling it with paid actors to make it look like he has a job

fucking lol

gg, you have an autistic manchild completely under your spell

>>18014894
I admit, I haven't asked out a lot, less than 5, 2 being people who knew me as obese. I know this is part of my problem, I don't have a lot of interaction with different women, my group tends to be pretty samey and so I see the same people all the time, how do I improve this?

At the same time I think I am flirting, but maybe I'm doing it wrong? When I'm trying to flirt, I'll keep eye contact with them as I'm talking, I'll smile when I or she is talking. I'll tease a lot, I like to do that. For example, she'll say "I really like this movie" and I'll say something like "Really? I didn't know you had such bad taste, remind me not to ask your opinion in the future" with a smirk on my face, in a real jokey manner. They will usually react with a mock offense look on their face and then a laugh. I also try to engage in a light touch, like maybe a brush on the arm, or intentionally trying to let my leg rest against hers if we're sitting close. Maybe I should be more overt on that front? I don't know how without coming across as invasive, but at the same time my touches might be too subtle and she would interpret it as incidental instead of intentional. What are some of the "too friendly" traps to avoid? I don't want to be an asshole or obnoxious

>>18014900
Here's the thing, in the moment, I don't think I'm coming off as creepy. I don't second guess myself until I've gotten the rejection. In my head I think "oh yeah she's into me, Imma ask her out" and then afterwards I start to think about what I did wrong. I only entertained the "creepy" ideas recently. Through all my interactions I'm acting "normally" for lack of a better word. I don't stare or gawk, I don't get in their personal space (unless I'm flirting, and I pick my moments). I have no problem talking to girls who are hot, I don't believe in the out of my league bullshit, especially now. My self esteem is an issue, but I make it a point to shove it away and ignore it when I'm in these social situations.

>>18014996

I generally think that a guys wealth is no one's business but his. But constructing an elaborate lie for several years is definitely something to be mad about.

>>18014909
Dude why not ask her out?

>>18015009
But what if the only things I'm lying about are about having a job, being poor, childhood home/family/friends and the work stories I make up? Everything else I've told her/she knows about me is true. Wouldn't it be understandable to make up all this stuff to make sure she actually likes me? How long is too long to wait to tell her?

>>18015022
No it's not understandable. It's psychotic lol

>>18015022
>>18014996
Please tell me this is a joke. This has to be a joke. R-right? If not, >>18015027 is spot-on.

>>18014996
>even going as far as buying an office and filling it with paid actors to make it look like he has a job when you come visit,

What....

Uhhh... Is this a romcom?

You watch too many movies....

Go ahead and be honest... because what's the alternative? You keep lying to her? It's going to come out eventually...

>>18014946
>Thanks but it's really harder than it sounds. I am over her though, but I'm not over feeling tired and depressed from all the hardships and shit. I find it really really hard to reach out to people these days.

You gotta start somewhere, just put one foot in front of the other and keep takings steps forward. This is as good a place to start as any.

>>18015002
>My self esteem is an issue, but I make it a point to shove it away and ignore it when I'm in these social situations.

Two things:
1.) It's good that you do that, because that's one way of forcing yourself to progress

2.) Don't fool yourself. Even if you push it to the back, it's still there and it shows up in your interactions. But the only way to get rid of it is to continue to improve our own base, and to continue to trying keep believing in yourself and putting yourself out there until it works.

You will fail. A lot. Over and over.
Keep learning from the failures.
Keep pushing forward.
Eventually you won't.

> "Really? I didn't know you had such bad taste, remind me not to ask your opinion in the future" with a smirk on my face, in a real jokey manner.

Also that's borderline "neg"ing... which is pretty cringeworthy. Teases are fine, but don't premeditate them. Same with all the other shit your doing. The more pre-meditated it is, the more obvious it all is, and the more awkward it feels.

That is why "just be yourself" is a thing. Because the alternative is you try too hard to be a "player" or some shit and it comes off as awkward.

Keep trying and find what works for you, but don't do shit purely because you think it impresses other people.

I have a gf and she likes to shave hershelf clean down there.
I like hairy women though..
How do I approach her about this?

>>18014962
Can you show me a screenshot? I don't know how to open these files.

>>18015022

Childhood, loved ones and job are a rather crucial part of who you are, no matter how you think of it. I undertand that you were probably worried that she'd like your money rather than you, but honestly she does not really know you at all, if you've lied to her about fundamental things about your life. If she genuinely likes you now and then discovers that your life experience is entirely different than you've lead her to believe, she will get mad.

Out of curiousity, how many years have you managed to keep this up?

>>18015042
You need a special program that can open them. I don't have one installed now. I think there are some free ones but it's a hassle to use them. The standard software for this is called SAS and costs thousands - it's the standard software for humongous datasets such as this one.

I thought one day when I have a lot of time to waste I'd take an in-depth look at that data. It's not for the faint of heart. You need serious software just to be able to start at it.

>>18015002
Eh well then it's as the other anon put it. People find different things offputting. What one girl like another girl hates.
Thing is though, just because they turn you down doesn't have to mean they think you're creepy. Just weren't interested.
>shove it away and ignore it when I'm in these social situations.
The tricky thing about self esteem and other mental issues, you'll never completely hide it. People pick up on the smallest little things, you might think you're hiding it, but you're not entirely.
But idk, to me it just sounds like a string of bad luck. You're not doing anything wrong, it's just been bad matches. It's not that /women/ don't like you, it's just that these specific women weren't interested for one reason or another. Dwelling on that reason does you no good either.
So they didn't wanna date you, oh well, there's tons of women out there. Dust yourself off and get back on the horse.

>>18015031
You really consider that negging? It's a harmless tease. I was giving an example, I didn't think it was that egregious. What's an "acceptable" tease in your mind then?

>>18015035

Maybe bring up a related topic like asking if there's something she'd like to do in bed or experiement with and then lead on to what you'd like and mention it casually that hairy pussy a thing for you.

Or, if you're in a stable relationship and can be open about it, just ask her if she'd consider shaving less for you.

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>be handsome
>want serious relationship
>women only seem to want sex
How do I proceed? I know there are decent women out there, but how do I let them find me?

>>18015062
Why would any decent woman want you? What do you have to offer over other guys?

>>18015027
>>18015030
>>18015031
So I should've told her straight away and expected that not to have some kind of effect on how she views me?

>>18015045
Only 6 so far, but it feels like it might be going on a little too long now. I couldn't exactly let her meet my real friends/family because it would give it away from how I act, but I based the characters the actors were playing on them, giving them their real names/similar appearances and adapting some of the stories they tell from my real life experiences. So it's not like I'm completely lying to her. It's only gone wrong once when very early on one of the actors for a friend had to move away, but she didn't notice when I replaced him with a similar looking person (thank god for asians) because she only saw him briefly once.

>>18015035
Express the preference, she'll either be cool or tell you she doesn't want to stop shaving.
I mean, who knows, maybe she only shaves because she knows the majority of men prefer it that way and just assumes you do too, and would be estatic she could drop that fucking time suck every other day.
But maybe she also just likes the way it feels personally and won't let it grow out.
And maybe she just doesn't give a shit either way.
All you can do is talk about it. I find sex stuff is better to just be blunt. Only wrong way you could approach it is in a demanding way.
"Grow your pubes for me because I want it that way", is probably a bad line. "I wouldn't mind if you stopped shaving, if you wanted to do that" is much better.

>>18015035
I'm in a similar situation. Reading replies with interest. I guess the main thing is the reason why she shaves - some girls do it for themselves and not for men. And in that case it's harder to ask her to stop.

>>18015066
I don't even believe you're for real but if you are, fucking get help.

>>18015015
Because reasons.
I hate being hit on at work, so do unto others.

>>18015066
Not straight away, but probably at some point before committing to hiring fake actors to prop up the illusion, you know? Six years is nuts.

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Hey guys,

I'm going on a first date with a guy I met, I really like him so far

Would it be too direct to text him that I can't wait to see him after we agreed when and where to go out?

>>18015076
So there's no way to salvage this at all? I do really like her. Is there a way I could explain it to her that wouldn't make her think I'm crazy like you people seem to believe I am

>>18015079
No, that's not a bad thing at all. Just a single message like that will let him know you are interested for real. As long as you don't start sending floods of messages. And keep the tone non-stalkery.

>>18015079
I am a guy and I would not do it.
Appears somewhat clingy, especially if the relationship is young.

Also I am german, keep the cultural difference in mind.

>>18015079
If you're this nervous, stop. It will come out in the text. Don;t confuse this with playing cool. Let him know tomorrow that you couldn't wait.

>>18015086
>>18015090
Well shit... He's British if that helps at all

>>18015084
If she has any self respect she'll be furious and probably break up with you.

If it were me I would feel like I just wasted 6 years of my life.

>>18015093
Okay probably right, I won't put something that direct. Thanks

>>18015104
You can send a message that's less emotional, like "looking forward to tomorrow!"

>>18014239
I'm a bit like that. I am open to trying almost all, but I take no initiative. I know it bothers my bf but I can't get myself to change.

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>>18015065
I'm smart, handsome, have a wide range of interests and talents, done some neat things, and come from a good family

>>18015060
>You really consider that negging? It's a harmless tease. I was giving an example, I didn't think it was that egregious. What's an "acceptable" tease in your mind then?

So by definition negging is
> a rhetorical strategy whereby a person makes a deliberate backhanded compliment or otherwise insulting remark to another person in order to undermine their confidence in a way that gains approval.

insulting remark? Check
comment that undermines their confidence? Check
trying gain approval by trying to make them want to gain your approval? Semi-check

This isn't egregious on to itself, and the intent behind this is kind of what matters really. If this is something premeditated and you've forced yourself to start doing though, it is 100% negging.

>>18015066
>So I should've told her straight away and expected that not to have some kind of effect on how she views me?

No. It's perfectly fine to save talking about stuff like that 'til later (because things like finances tend to be much more personal topics and have no place at the start of a relationship).

But creating elaborate lies where you're going out of your way to LITERALLY fabricate what's basically an studio production like you're some Hollywood director.

No.

>>18015079
>Would it be too direct to text him that I can't wait to see him after we agreed when and where to go out?

This is a case by case thing and it depends on the vibe of your current connection. It can be sweet if you're both obviously excited. It can be too much if you both barely know each other.

Overall though the safer play is to not, because the danger in doing it risks over-inflating/over-hyping everyone's expectations--and that rarely working out for the better in any situation.

>>18015114
>smart
Maybe, maybe not. You might just be deluding yourself.
>handsome
Maybe, maybe not. You might just be deluding yourself.
>have a wide range of interests and talents
Maybe, maybe not. You might just be deluding yourself.
>done some neat things
Maybe, maybe not. You might just be deluding yourself.

Seriously, all of what you mentioned was done in a way that comes off as desperate and insecure.

>>18015110
I wrote, "Great (smiley), I'll see you tomorrow"

Hopefully that's good... I never texted a guy like this before, it's pretty stressful

>>18014727
;_;
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Girls, why don't you learn how to downshift revmatch?

>>18015124
That's good. Lets him know that you are interested and will show up, without being needy or clingy. I think you did all right here.

>>18015124
*slow clap* well played. Not overly giddy, but letting him know you're still interested.

>>18015079
I'm a guy and behaviour like that is super cute. I love it when my current girl does it. You should do it.

>>18015101
Darn it, I really liked her. Would it be worse to tell her straight up (making her feel like she wasted 6 years and hate me), stage my death so we say goodbye still loving each other or just break up for "reasons"?

>22
>kissless
>not virgin
how do i make out for the first time without embarrassing myself?

>>18015142
Both of you need to be drunk,

In general:
How do I recover from telling a guy I really like I'm not interested? I kinda, maybe told a really hot co-worker of mine I didn't like him because he was too short (not fair, since I'm 6'4") because I panicked when I said I wanted both of us to get drunk at a party so I could make out with him, but he reacted all shocked when I said it?

>>18015145
Are you sure he's even gay in the first place?

>>18015145
>6'4"
Marry me

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>>18015128
Thanks for the advice, I really mean it.

>>18015148
lolwut
>>18015151
Maybe. He's got he sense of humor that screams "too much time on the internet"

>>18015122
>desperate and insecure
I know I'm not Tom Brady, but it's not like I have nothing going for me

>>18015168
You make it sound as if you're a demigod on Earth and women should all flock to you without you making any effort. The world doesn't work that way. Look at all the guys around you who are getting girls, while you aren't. They are doing something right, you aren't.

How many girls have you asked out in your life? Have you ever set up an account on tinder or a dating site?

>>18015142
You fucked a prostitute didnt you lol

>>18015134
>stage my death so we say goodbye still loving each other
This is the greatest shit in the universe

>guy shows attention
>notice this
>give compliments back
>starts treating me like trash
Soo.. guys only like the chase? They want what they think is unattainable or something? What's the logic here?

>>18015276
>This person did something that hurt my feelings. Why do guys/girls do this?
Because shit people are shit people. It's not a gendered thing.

>>18015278
He's very polite and nice to everyone. To me too before I started being nice to him.

>>18015281
Maybe he bought into the meme that girls only want assholes and bad boys.

>>18015294
>Maybe he bought into the meme that girls only want assholes and bad boys.

This.

Or maybe he's a 6 year old.
Have you tried taking his juice box and telling him he's got cooties?

advice for dating a girl taller than you? we share similar interests and I have a date with her in a week. Any tips would be nice since this is also the first real date I've been on (not counting dumb freshman year of hs shit)

>>18015304
You date her the same way as you would date a girl shorter than you.

I want to buy my girlfriend a ring for valentine's day, but I don't want to end up buying something she'd dislike. How do I go about secretly buying a ring while also knowing what she'd like

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What's the correct way for him to handle this situation?

Ugh what is with the captcha today, keeps fucking failing on me.
Anyway

>>18015404
You're probably not going to pull that off without at least giving her suspicion.

You'd have to somehow slyly get her to look at rings and judge her reaction. If you have access to it, check out what kind of jewelry she already owns. If she's got rings laying around, find something that's a familiar pattern with them.

Another riskier route you might try is talking to her friends. They might know what she likes. If you know one of them well enough, you can conspire together. Ask them to probe for you. It'll look less suspicious if her friend's asking instead of you.
Regardless though, idk about your gf, but my bf can buy me something I'd otherwise consider ugly/hate and I'll still love it just purely because it came from him.

>>18015419
Get away, dude just stands there and takes it.

No matter what your gender, sex, or size is to me you're supposed to try and deescalate first. If you can just run away or escape violence nonviolently, you should try. If only because legally your life will be much easier.
If you can't though, if she's cornered him and he can't get away, fucking deck the bitch. If a guys cornered a girl she should deck the dude. If a dude's cornered another dude he should deck the dude. If a girls cornered another girl she should deck the chick.
This particular situation though, guy should be walking away and calling the cops for the assault if he wants to. Hes making no effort to get away though, probably because this looks hella staged. Like they're trying to make a point.

>>18015314
How should you respond when your GF gives you a one word response to your paragraph in a passive aggressive manner?

>>18015454
Are you the same guy? Is she your gf or not? Sounds like a different problem.

In any case, if you have to write a paragraph, it sounds like you're ranting. A one word response indicates she didn't like your rant. The worst you can do is escalate it. On the contrary, calm down, try to calm her down. Why are you fighting in the first place? Just chill.

>>18015462
Yes she is my girlfriend.

We're not fighting, she just gets mood swings and tends to take them out on me by being passive aggressive

>>18014162
It's called a pity fuck.
Unless they're married and desperate to continue a lineage or something.

GIrls

Does this make sense to you?

I've been hanging out with this girl recently. She's really attractive and pretty cool. She's been showing signs that she wants to have sex (she smiles and looks into eyes, gets close to me, and even slapped my butt once). Which.. is a problem. She (as well as others) don't know that I have been dealing with depression for a long time, I don't show it. Well, I've been trying to not react to her advances, and I haven't been sending signals to her. I've never made a mood, because I think sex is the worst thing I could do while I'm depressed. So, how do I tell her that we shouldn't have sex without her getting upset?

>>18015210
what is this, tumblr
he said he's good looking and wants to have a serious relationship
what part of him selling himself made him to sound like a demigod

>>18015482
He basically said

>I'm awesome in every way how do I get girls to flock to me without making any effort myself

Not understanding that it takes work. Even if you are a prime male, you need to get out there, put yourself out there, to get girls. He makes it sound like it's too much work.

>>18015470
Mind telling us what was contained in your paragraph?

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I go to school with a girl I like. I have spoken with her a few times and we got along great. I brealy know her though. How do I ask her out though? I never have an opportunity to speak to her alone since we only have two classes together and she sits nowhere near me. She doesnt have WhatsApp either, so I cant text her. How would any of you approach that situation. Should I just try to catch her alone on the next party? Im really insecure about this so asking for a date/ her number is going to be tough as is.

>>18015498
You just do it when you see her. You're just making excuses. Who cares if she's not alone. Just do it faggot.

And you're obviously underaged, so nothing you do matters now anyway. Whatever happens, treat it as a learning experience.

>>18015498
Sit near her, talk to her, ask her on a date eventually.

To get a woman on a date you don't need to have already won her, just got her interest. A date is just a test.

>>18014179
omg 4chan is dying XD fucking newfags XD why cant we be rude af and call black people stupid niggers XD damn this place has changed XD normalfaaaaaags XDXDXDDOEJIRtg

>>18015539
>>>/reddit/

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>>18015164
Where do you want to go for the honeymoon? I favor the Mediterranean myself

>>18015145
It's not that you told him you weren't interested, it's that you told him he was too short. Do you realise how deeply that hurts many guys? It's quite possible you permanently fucked it up.

>>18015145
You're a guy, right? If you're a 6'4" girl, you're not exactly one who can get by on looks.

>>18015314
Easy enough now

How do I not act like an autist on a date?

Why is it that most women end up fucking scumbags with a pretty face and don't listen to their friends pointing out they are a scumbag?

And then once they get knocked up the scumbag leaves them with a bastard and instead of taking responsibility for their mistake they say "oh I was young" when plenty of people werent that stupid back then and they make the same mistake several times?

>>18015590
Most women don't grow up or learn responsibility at any time in the early years of life, when it matters. We have more big children driving cars now than we do adults. The same can be said for men, but life usually deals men a whopping blow earlier and more often than women. It can be blamed on the culture or circumstance, but I blame the person, even if it isn't 'fair'

>>18015546
>>>/r9k/ or /pol/ or whatever

Stop being a fucking child

> To either gender
How viable do you think online relationships are?
I've got a few friends who've had and are in those typa relationships, some have worked, and others ended with them just casually talking.

I'm asking because this girl and I have clicked and really do like one another.

Where do I go from here? Should I wait, or try to go from an online relationship to one face to face?

Does distance play a factor?
The friends i've mentioned have made the distance of Ottawa, to Quebec City work; that being a good 500km. With my current situation, long drives wouldn't really work out, but flights sure is viable as it's not all too expensive.

>>18015623
Don't do it. It doesn't matter if you stay casual friends or whatever, but don't attatch yourself to something so distant. You both will just wind up forming opinions off of your own perception and be disappointed after the 'thrill' of meeting wears off. Do not invest your time and emotions into it.

Also, obviously, much more incentive to lie with these sort of things. I knew a person for years before meeting in person to find out they had been lieing about nearly everything they told me. You can't make regrets if you don't start. Just don't. Keep it casual.

>>18015590
>Why is it that most women end up fucking scumbags with a pretty face and don't listen to their friends pointing out they are a scumbag?

You say that as if there aren't guys who do this (substitute "getting left" with "leaving them"/"getting blind sided with child support").

It kind of goes both ways and what goes around tends to come around.

Generally though, people who don't fuck around like that, don't run in to these problems.

Look man all the salt makes it sound kinda like you're kinda being bitter and projecting a bit. Lay off on the white knighting a tad.

>>18015590
This doesn't happen. The world is not like you imagine it to be, living in the basement and browsing /r9k/ all day.

>>18015651
That was a typical "reeee why do women go for assholes and not nice guys like me bitches whores cunts" post.

Alright, seriously. How does one get rid of a complex, or tone it down around girls?

I have probably got the largest inferiority complex in human history. That's the only thing I would say I have the most off. I absolutely hate myself and I know it comes across to others. There are thick, ugly scars across my left arm from when I was a kid so I always wear a thick black coat and every joke I make is "ironically" self depreciating.

I masturbate to shemale porn because I'm so insecure that any woman that I ever had sex with would be faking it - I need to see a visible orgasm to get off.

How do I pursue girls and even make FRIENDS if I can't not hate myself? I was diagnosed with unironic severe depression and I feel like I have no personality beyond hiding it. I just want someone to find me attractive but I can't even stop hating myself for a minute.

I know this is a turn off to girls, so how do I at least smother these feelings? Do I keep trying to fake it until I make it? I'm just despondent I suppose. Depression has only beat me once but I feel that I have to beat it every day.

>>18015419
Is she kissing Chad? WTH is that?

Girls, why don't you reply quickly enough or at all? We penises are fragile. ;_;

>>18015694
penis how did you learn to type

>>18015694
Girls have a stereotype of being clingy. Typically we try to avoid appearing that way as to not scare you off.

Granted, that usually applies only to initiating conversations, rather than replying to them.
Also, we have lives too. Jobs to go to, homework to do, other friends to see. Sometimes we are just busy.

>>18015712
Well, I am very smart and independent penis. I have my own thoughts while my "owner" has his.

>>18015720
2 to days to reply. The princess is too busy, then. :(

>>18015743
If it's been 2 days I'd give up. She's not busy she just doesn't want to talk to you.

>>18015493
I was trying to cheer her up by giving her encouragement

I don't know who to ask, But i broke up with a guy i've been dating because i lost interest in him. Thing is he still wants to see me one more time because he thinks we should try one more time before departing ways for good. I keep telling him no, but he keeps insisting. what do i do?

>>18015982
Show us a message or two?

Asked the girl that I like out and she said yes. Thing is, she tells me to text her but she takes a really long time to respond and she tells me she's busy.

It's weird because she asked me for her number and she always grabs my hand when we walk. She just seems to lack motivation or maybe she's shy.

>>18016014
How long is long?

>>18015982
Stand your ground. Tell him you will not be seeing him again and you are not interested. There's no reason in meeting him again. Wish him well and send him on his way.

>>18015658
What are your hobbies, anon?

>>18016012
I'll share a few
"we really should (name), it's really sad if we don't see each other one more at least here. we been through a lot."

"so what's it gonna take for us to hang out tomorrow or tonight?"

"I'm serious (name), what's it gonna take for this to happen."

This is after ive said no a few times already.

>>18016019
I know i'm being brutal by just flat out saying no, but i have to be honest.

>>18016055
You're actually not being brutal. Flat out saying no to someone you're not interested in is the kindest thing you can do.

Girls, what is your ideal second date, and what should I do for Valentine's day if we only will have been dating for 2 or 3 weeks by that point? I am 19, by the way.

>>18016059
sigh i'm just not feeling it. it's happened before with a previous relationship. He would have a great personality and hit all the right marks, but i wasn't physically into him. it's frustrating.

>>18016016

She texts me back quick, but when I ask if she's busy to ask her if she wants to do something, she'll take really long to respond. She also posts on social media, so I know she's ignoring my texts on purpose.

Why go through all of this stuff like asking for my number, grabbing my hand in public when we walk to just ignore when asked if she wants to go out?

>>18016074
This is when trying to set up a date? Have you been on a date yet?

She may be having second thoughts or getting cold feet. Not sure what you can do about it.

>>18016078

Hopefully it's the latter. I really like her and I'm trying not to be clingy. We haven't went out yet. She did say she was tired. A coworker who is a girl told me that she's probably shy.

>>18016114
How long has it been since you asked her out?

I'll be honest and say it's not a great sign. I used to be really shy and would sometimes say yes to guys who asked me out because I was too shy and had too low self esteem to say no, even when I wasn't interested. Then I dragged my feet on the actual date because I dreaded it but again was too much of a puss to just turn them down.

It could be that she's dreading going out with you but still excited about it at the same time, but I think it's unlikely, especially if it's been a long time since you asked (like 2 weeks+).

Can women smell my asscrack? I don't wipe and haven't wiped for years. I shower every 2-3 weeks because of the water bill. Can women smell my ass? And if they can, do they like it or is it bad?

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>>18016167

>>18016132

This is me: >>18013845

Today, I saw her again and she told me to text her. She said she was tired so maybe that's why she hasn't texted me back. Two days ago, I told her that I want to go out with her and like in my post before, she wasn't maintaining eye contact. Now what you said, I'm thinking she just said that out of pity. We're coworkers, but I don't see her much. Today, she didn't say anything to me and I texted her asking if she was okay. She said she was and that why wouldn't she be. I said it seemed like she didn't want to talk and she said she was just hungry and tired. She was on her way out and I said again if she wanted to do something and she said text me. I texted her two hours ago if she was busy tomorrow. So far, no response she's probably sleeping.

It's weird, I don't know what she wants. Some days, she's all over me staring at me and constantly calling me over when we're working so we could talk. When I approach her to talk about a little serious, it's like she freezes up.

>>18016181
If it was just yesterday, don't stress. Right now all signs are pointing to her just being shy.

Girls, do you find sex enjoyable even if you don't hit orgasm?

>>18016300
I've only ever been able to orgasm solo and with a vibrator,
But I always enjoy the ride. Hell, I think it's better to spend an hour bumping and grinding with a guy and never orgasm than any 5 minutes with my vibrator.

Do girls ever suffer from oneitis?

>>18016354
>oneitis
yes when i was in middle school

>>18016068
This one time I wanted to ask a girl out in mid January but waited until after Valentine's Day for the specific reason of not wanting to put myself in a position of having to deal with that question.

Work smarter not harder.

Is there a general rule on how much time you have to put between meetups with a fwb?

I've just been horny as fuck lately, I don't want him to think I'm being clingy/catching feelings though. Relationships still too fresh, so I don't know yet what he's really thinking.
If it were completely up to me, I'd be screwing him every night, but that seems a bit clingy for a fwb to me.
I saw him Tuesday, would it be too soon to try and hang out this weekend?

Guys-

TL;DR: I feel like my boyfriend is getting the short end of the stick when we have sex. How do I make it better for him?

He really does a lot of the work. He always ends up a lot sweatier than I am at the end of it all.

I do make an effort. I try being on top, but I can't seem to get a steady rhythm going, and certainly not at the kind of pace I like. I usually run out of steam pretty fast, but I do try to work through it until I can't any more.
I make sure to give him plenty of enthusiastic blow jobs, and when I'm below I do try to move my hips with him, grab at him, be engaged.

But I feel spoiled, getting multiple orgasms, and having more erogenous zones than him. Particularly during foreplay, I can get so drawn into what he's doing to me- kissing my neck, pinching my nipples, rubbing my clit- that I just melt into his hands, and forget to do anything to him. I usually come to my senses (or do I lose my sense?) around the first orgasm and dive into a blowjob.
I wish I could tease him and play him the way he does me. He doesn't really have any kinks or anything special that he'd want me to do. I want to make him feel as good as he makes me feel. I want to pay him back. And I also don't want him to start feeling used or resentful.

>>18016419
Shouldn't be a problem.

>>18016439
We aren't your boyfriend. Ask him what he likes, and do more of that

>>18016446
I have, but he isn't really giving me anything to work with.
I feel guilty.

>>18016354
i do. the only time i even ever have multiple crushes at the same time is when moving from one long term oneitis to the next long term oneitis.

>>18014278
I'd offer you a date since I'm pretty autistic (like people call me that irl) and want to date but, you know... Internet shit and different states.

>>18016454
Have you considered that maybe he is happy with how it is? Some guys really don't mind doing most of the work

>>18016439
Tell him how great he makes you feel and that your want to make him feel that great. If he doesn't come up with anything then just accept that he is happy

>>18014411
Break up with him. He likes doing that shit because it rustles your jimmies. Who knows, if hes so frank about just saying "I'll keep talking shit about you" then he's pretty antisocial.

Not a femfag, don't hate men. But seriously, that public shaming shit is the makings of an abusive relationship.

>>18016466
>>18016470
Thanks guys, I appreciate it. I'm trying to take too much responsibility for this, aren't I? If he's not satisfied, then it's his responsibility to be honest when I ask him.
I guess sometimes I just need to hear somebody else say it.

>>18016445
Thanks man. I never really did the casual sex thing until recently. Not sure how much time to spend together, what's normal in this kind of relationship.
It's kind of a shit deal for someone with a high libido when I think about it though. A bf would be with me every night, but the fwb's got other people to bang.
Suppose I just need to find more myself to fill my schedule since getting a bf is impossible.

>>18016493
It's really just up to the both of you to draw a line. I have a casual thing going with a girl where we also go on dates and shit. For us it's more about treating a mutual boredom than it is specifically about sex, but we have both been very clear that while we give a shit we aren't actually in love with each other. Couldn't even tell you why I'm not attached to her, it's just never happened.

>>18016507
Yeah, guess I'm just worried about spooking him or something. Don't want him to run off. Then I'll have to suffer through the god awful dry spell again until I find a new one.

Dick's like a drug man. Went so long without it, get just a taste and I'm hooked.

>>18016493
>getting a bf is impossible

Is it because you have bpd or something like that?

>>18013808
Girls, do you trust people you send dirty pics to that they will never show it to anyone else or you are just ok with pics of you going around?

>>18016300
Yes, I enjoy the intimacy, and I also like pleasuring my partner

>>18013808
Guys:
Do you get friendzoned on tinder a lot?
Usually create my account, get matched with one girl the same day, get friendzoned and delete it.

>>18016810
How the fuck do you get friendzoned on an app designed for sex/relationships?

>>18016819
>we talk for a bit
>throw a few casual comments and flirting in the convo to keep it interesting
>either get their number and text them that i should take them out this weekend or say it on the app
>"no im busy"
>some other time then?
>"haha maybe, *continue the regular conversation we were having*
>make it clear im looking to date not a friend at some point where its not awkward
>get turned down
I don't know, i really don't.

>>18016810
>Do you get friendzoned on tinder a lot?

That's not called getting "friendzoned" that's called getting rejected. You're trying to spin this to something else for your own ego or something there... but really... welcome to online dating. (P.S. I met my girlfriend of 2 years running online)

>>18016439
>TL;DR: I feel like my boyfriend is getting the short end of the stick when we have sex. How do I make it better for him?

If he's your BF, just ask him what he likes. That simple.

>>18016419
>Is there a general rule on how much time you have to put between meetups with a fwb?

Are you horny? Yes? Hit him up.

FWB is no strings attached bootie calls.

When it's clingy is when you're asking to do shit outside of that.

>>18016856
it's not "getting rejected" because they continue talking to me after the rejection even if i stop messaging back.
Friendzoning is a type of rejection, i think your projecting and made this post for your own ego.

>>18016752
>Girls, do you trust people you send dirty pics to
No

>>18016819
>go on a date
>she doesnt feel the chemistry or whatever
>she wants to try to be friends

It's hardly a mystery unless you have one of those weird interpretations of the term friendzone internet feminists like to kludge together.

>>18016859
>it's not "getting rejected" because they continue talking to me after the rejection even if i stop messaging back.

That's not what friendzone is. Fuck I don't even believe friendzone even exists in the first place (it's still called getting rejected), but even if I'm going off of whatever the fuck bullshit example people spout off on here, this does not qualify. Friend zone implies they're at least you friend, and they're not even trying to do that, they're just talking to you. This is flakes being flakes at best, at worst chicks just trying to milk you for attention.

Once gain, Welcome to online dating

>>18016889
>go on a date

This is a step beyond what he said is happening.

>>18016898
look, i dont care where your stance is, actual advice or experiencing sharing would be nice instead of rebranding a term i used to make a neg comment because of whatever you're going through.

>>18016909
I don't see why this is mystifying for you.

>talk to girl
>she rejects you/friendzones you whatever the fuck you want to call it
>you move on to the next one

Tinder is a numbers game for guys. If she's not interested then she's not interested and if she's not offering up something you want then you keep looking until you find someone who is.

>>18016909
>actual advice or experiencing sharing

For the 3rd time.. She ain't friendzoning. She's not interested.

Stop wasting your time. Move the fuck on.

Realize that this will consist of 90% of your online dating experience and stop over investing over something so trivial (Before you try to refute this, the fact that you're posting about it here is proof that you are).

Thems the breaks in online dating. Accept it. Don't mind it. Move the fuck on.

>>18016919
>>18016923
I'm not seeking advice about moving on, this has happened many times before so you are both missing what i'm saying.
It's not like im clinging to one girl looking for a way to get together with every match i make.
Im looking for advice on where things could be going wrong from them swiping right to them saying no to the date and experienced people to tell me how they prevent it from happening so often

>>18016928
Sorry but I think you're the one missing the point. I doubt you're really doing anything "wrong" especially if you are making your intentions clear as you say you are.

In my experience, which you can take with a grain of salt, women swipe on the strength of your bio more than anything and it's just a game. You bio is funny/etc you get a swipe and not necessarily because they want to meet up with you. They're after attention or entertainment and besides which meeting new people can be fun.

Just keep going until you find someone looking for the same thing you're looking for.

Girls, why do you throw spells at men and make us crazy for you?

>>18016898
>This is a step beyond what he said is happening.
Same difference either way.
>ask girl out
>she suggests they just be friends instead because she likes his profile and is interested in meetup up as friends, but not enough to go on a date

It's exceedingly common. Not really a mystery.

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How do I tell that girl likes me or just craving attention? We get really touchy if we speak and are close enough, and said "why couldn't we hang out this weekend", she had to go for a trip, so she declined. However I didn't state it is a date and I didn't confess.

Should I ask her out, also, should I directly state it is a date?

At a club I was touching a girls tits, kissing her neck whilst grinding her and I knew she was digging it cos she was grabbing my trousers and pulling me into her. Why did she then walk away? I was ready to marry this girl lol. I do admit at one point I just started hugging her out of loneliness tho lol.

>>18017185
She was happy about what you did, and didn't want to do any more than that.
She also might get off on blue balling men

Girls

How would you feel if a male friend asks for some private groping/touching/making out? No sex!

>>18017478
and you're both single