NEET/shut-in improvement thread!

I respect you all no matter your current situation or past.

Been lurking your discord for a while now, you guys give me hope. I thought this was going to be another /r9k/ shitfest.

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This is an odd question but have any of you NEETS in burgerland ever donated plasma for cash? I'm just curious and also a bit nervous.

I know it has a seedy rep among some people but I'm almost flat broke right now this month and I don't want my cat to starve. I found the best reviewed facility in a nicer part of my city and 'scheduled' a visit on Friday. This month new donors get $50 on their first, second and third donations so a total of $150. To get this you just have to do the initial donation this month.

I've got all the ID needed, no medical issues or anything I can think of that would prevent me from donating, etc. I plan on staying hydrated, eating right before and after and so on. Any tips from anons that have done this?

Not sure if this is the correct thread to ask it, i have only one "friend" so i would like to meet new people, my question is what are some cheap hobbies/activities to meet people?

>>17663561
Fuck my life. Should i just work in mcdonalds?

So, what's the improvement process for a shut-in that seethes with bitterness at all the fucking hipsters and yuppies on his way to a wageslave job in a shitty uniform on the London underground?

It's day off here in my country and I didn't do anything I should have done. Maybe it's cause it's been a couple of days I don't take my antidepressant...

How did you guys get this way, did you just play games while everyone else was stressing about getting on track to a good future?

>>17664379
Partly, but you know, it's only now (at 26) I've realised how important socialising is/was in your early years.

I'm now stuck in a dead end job with a whole host of disadvantages aside from being an autist.

>uncool
>the personality of a brick
>not white
>not good looking or any real distingushing features
>no longer count as young unless I die at this age

I'm the featureless brick in the wall surround by multicoloured, pierced, studded and tattooed bricks.

Feels bad man.

>>17664379
For me, yes.

>>17664431
In a similar place stay strong anon.

How do you even become a neet. I want to stay home and play video games and read all day without having to go to work and college, what the fuck

>>17664995
>>17665026

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>>17664379
Went from straight-As to B minuses and, after sometime, bullied out of high school; said place had shit teachers and students, so it wasn't like I was ever going anywhere far in life. I did eventually get a Bachelor's degree, but apparently that's so common where I live that no one would hire me. The fact that I don't speak the dominant language here doesn't help.
I'm still trying to get a job, despite the disadvantages I seem to have. I haven't lost hope.

>>17664336
Hating other people for next to no reason is very self-destructive. You're going to have a hard time ever making friends or changing being a shut-in if you're constantly judging others. The Pastebin has some resources that might be able to help you, I recommend getselfhelp in particular.

>>17664379
I'd was bullied all my school life and became one of those people who sat on the sidelines and never talked to anyone. I got good grades but I didn't put any effort into planning for my future. After I graduated I just let things happen. Since I didn't have to get up and go outside anymore, I didn't. And as time went on I got worse and worse. I never applied to any colleges or went looking for jobs. I sat in my room content with online friends for nearly a decade. But I've been improving the last few years and I even have a job now once I stopped declining all the opportunities my parents tried to offer me through people they knew.

>>17664379
The train of thought was do something useful in uni like engineering. Told my parents what I wanted to do and they scared me into thinking I'd never get a job that way. Boy was that a mistake when I failed out because I hated it. Never pick a course on a whim. Better to succeed in a "useless" course than to fail out of "proper" one.

>>17665401
>self-destructive
Sure.
>no reason
Eh..kind of. I hate them most for being the harbingers of gentrification and I envy them for being the sort of cool/different that I only saw on the telly. For reference I'm >>17664336. I'm an actual misfit.

I'll check out this self-help thing.

It's funny, there is a skatepark closeby that was built about 10 or so years ago and I remember thinking to myself "Who the fuck skates in this area?" and telling people that it wasn't built for us. They dismissed me but over the years it became clear everyone who used the skatepark wasn't from the area and now are the new residents. NOW the people who dismissed me are recognising that they're being pushed out the area.

>>17664379
First years I did it due to extreme bullying (even physical)

Saw a therapist, went back to school

Then I started dropping out again because I had difficulties and lack of motivation and etc and even the teachers refused to help me and called me hopeless amongst other things

tl;dr shit schools, shit student

>>17664276
Anything you're interested in and could see yourself going to for a few times even if you don't find some friends the first or second time.
Don't be disheartened if you don't find really find what you're looking for either. I've joined some clubs for activities I enjoy but I didn't really connect with any of the people there, so I ended up leaving. It was still good for expanding my social circle a bit as I could still say 'hi' to if I saw them around and ask them how their day was.
If you're lucky you could find a new group of friends instantly.

>>17664324
Why not?

>>17664341
Don't worry, time off is important too. Sometimes pushing myself to start one small thing of a big task can get the ball rolling to give me motivation later, like telling myself I will just write the first paragraph of my assignment. A very easy task, and even if I don't feel like working after that, I still did more than nothing. Hope this relates to your situation and helps.

>>17664431
But I know you have things that make you sparkle. Can you build on them or find new things?

>>17665122
>>17665401
Good to hear. If the road ahead seems long, remember that you've already come so far from where you started.

>>17666040
>But I know you have things that make you sparkle. Can you build on them or find new things?
>sparkle

Dude, did you really have to put that way?

Too build on? Only 3 years worth of wageslave experience and a 2.2 maths degree from 2011.

>>17663561
Bump.

full neet
got job(s)


rec me books to read to surpass all of you

>>17667141
damn brah, on my way to being you without even a finished degree to my name

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>>17663561
I need advice

How do i get id?

I am fucked

It says I need tons of documents, and to get those documents you need an id in the first place.

I have a bank statement, Social Security card, birth certificate, and place of residency.

And they still won't give me an id unless I have a credit card statement. Is there a way for me to get a credit card without id that has a very low limit?

This sure is a crazy country. I can't get an id but illegal aliens get them for free with no hoops to go through.

>>17664228

I'm not a NEET, but it can be dangerous.

Be SURE to get someone experienced to put the needle in. One time, I had some idiot technician with a 2 month training that put the needle in wrong and I had a seizure and went white, is what the head technician said.

Make sure if there is a cardiologist, or main nurse there that is ACTUALLY a nurse, ask her to put the needle in.

Make sure to drink a FUCK ton of water and eat a good solid meal before going. Eat about 800 to 1200 calories before donating.

I made about $300 a month on the side, for only going roughly 8 hrs out of the entire month, which is not bad side cash, that is about $3300 extra yearly.

But, drink lots of water, have and EXPERIENCED technician take care of you. I've had stupid fucks reek of weed, with a shit ton of piercings and tattoos take care of me and they sucked ass at their jobs.

Bring your phone, and listen to an audio-book or music.

Do no go to sleep, or close your eyes, as they have had people die from this, be alert, and wave down a technician if you suspect ANYTHING wrong.

I can maybe give you a little more advice if need be.

>>17664324

>McDonalds

Not getting a technical training like plumbing or electrician, or getting your CDL (2 month program for $500 at comm. college) and making 35k to 55k in first year, depending on company and type of load (reffer, dry van, flat-bed, dedicated, etc.)

>>17668133

Are you a legal immigrant?

And most likely if it's your first credit card and you have no credit history, it will be at a very high interest rate.

To fix this, just go get the high rate, buy small items like groceries with the card, and pay them off IMMEDIATELY. Rinse and repeat.

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>>17668133

Okay, so, like, you're going to need the Social Security card, but that, and a piece of mail with a current address on it will let you get a State ID from the DMV (or whatever the car registration bureau is called in the state where you are). From having a State ID, you are able to register to vote, and get a Driver's License if you have a car. Even if not, or you can't pass the tests for a DL, the State ID is the gold standard for IDs. You can even use it to get a US Passport (which is the standard everywhere else).

>>17668154
what other jobs do you recommend?

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>>17664379
Kind of.

Basically some friendships went really south in highschool and I sort of just turned off. I just coasted through the rest of highschool barely passing and acted antisocial when I was actually on a pretty good path before.

So I was in a haze for some years after highschool, some people passed away and I coped with it poorly, and I only started to get my shit back on track when I was about to turn 22. Currently 24, extremely self conscious of the fact I'll always be so many years behind. I have a couple of new reliable friends but I still find socializing and dating incredibly difficult.

>>17667474

>7 Habits of Highly Effective People
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seven_Habits_of_Highly_Effective_People

>No Excuses!: The Power of Self-Discipline
>https://www.amazon.com/No-Excuses-Self-Discipline-Brian-Tracy/dp/1593156324

>Don't Sweat the Small Stuff
>https://www.amazon.com/Dont-Sweat-Small-Stuff-Its/dp/0786881852

I got more, but going back and forth between Discord and here.

>>17668159

>what other jobs do you recommend?

Normal jobs, or side money gigs?

>>17663561

Lost everything in January; moved into a new place on the opposite side of town and have rarely been outside since then.

I'm dealing with a massive acne break out right now and my self-image is rock fucking bottom.

I'm start DBT on Monday and am broke until January which is when I get my school money.

Feels like I'm rebuilding Rome one brick at a fucking time.

>>17668174

Do you own a car?

>>17668179

Yeah and I'm in really nice house in really nice part of town so I'm aware I sound like a whiny bitch.

The fall didn't break me so I'm climbing back up the LADDAH, just slowly.

somewhat related...what are some good neet manga?

>>17668188

You ever thought about making some quick side cash, donate plasma or in some places you can donate your blood for cash, which is usually a lot more than plasma.

>>17668193

Yeah, I was doing that but last month I came home from doing a donation and put a bare cold-pack on my arm like a retard and I got a 1st degree frost-burn; it's been a month and hasn't gone away yet.

It's going to take a looong time.

I do get Disability and after rent, I have $300 to save or spend.

lol
>>17668169
thanks, i'm going to treat these as must reads between jobs and sleep, which i'm about to start a shift on

>>17668169
both normal and side money gigs

I was born in the United states. I need to find some way to get a credit card statement. That is the last bit of documents I need before the dmv will give me a state id.
>>17668133

>>17668155
Cant get a state id without a credit card statement. It is a big problem to homeless americans who can't get id even with a social security number and tons of documents.

>>17668200

On a side note, if you don't mine me asking, how did you come by such a nice house to live in?

Also, I heard online surveys are a good way to go to make some extra cash on the side. Though I've never tried it, I heard some tales that it actually works.

Also, have you ever considered driving for Uber or a similar company style?

Ik, on craigslist, I used to make side money being a helper for when people were moving, sometimes I got paid 25 dollars and hour, plus pizza and water and sometimes a tip.

>>17668154
>>17668209
Forgot to add you to the reply

>>17668208

Np, I have some more if your interested.

I'd say this, go into a technical field, like plumbing or electrician, it can take 6 to 8 years to become a master in the field, but from what I've heard and seen, they can make 40+ and hour, doing mundane stupid work.

>Pipe-layer
>Welder
>Diesel Mechanic (they need them bad in the trucking industry)
>Radiology Technician (2 yr degree, 24 month program)
>NA (Nurse Assistant, go on to get your nursing degree after some experience)
>Class B license, drive straight trucks
>CDL, drive buses or school buses
>Get a degree in Forestry, work out in the woods

>>17668209
>>17668214

>Cant get a state id without a credit card statement.

Do you have any proof of residency? Bill from the mail, check payment from work, etc.

>>17663561

ALSO, for everyone here, the LIBRARY is your best friend, some librarys I've been to in town actually have games on them, like Minecraft that you can play with a Library account. Or a place to chill and read and relax.

As well as renting books, usually self-help or motivationals, movies, audio books, etc.

As well as some workshops that they offer, the local college too, might offer some.

Plus, check out your local job fairs, sometimes, they are begging people to work for them.

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>>17668232
Yes
>bank statements mailed to me

>Hospital debt mailed to me

The dmv won't let me get an id and I literally can't do anything without an id.

I have a social security card, birth certificate, school id, bank statement, hospital bills with proof of residency. The last item I need for them to give me an id is a credit card statement. How do i get a credit card without an id?

Meanwhile illegal aliens just walk into the dmv and get an id.
Reeeeeeeee

I can't do anything with my life until I get an id. I can't even buy a bus ticket out of town. I'm fucking trapped in hell.

>>17668239

Something sounds off about that, have you tried calling another DMV in your county. Having a credit card statement does not sound right. I would call back a few times, get on the horn with the higher ups and explain the situation.

SS card, Birth Certificate, and the rest you posted are MORE than enough.

The credit card sounds kind like BS to me.

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>>17668244
It was hell going in there. Being an autistic male with extreme anxiety. They were all fat blacks and talked more retarded than me. I think they hated me because I'm a white male with blue eyes.

My cousin who drove me there said it was bullshit. That the dmv workers were fucking me over on purpose.

I'm trapped in limbo hell with me at the dmv workers mercy. How can a citizen not get a.fucking id but illegal aliens get them. This country is sick.

I am autistic and it's hard for me to do this by myself. Let alone when the dmv workers hate me it makes me very sad and hopeless.

>>17668258

Well, first off, from your pictures, being a Hillary supporter doesn't help against illegal immigrants.

Second, it's your right to be able to get an ID from the DMV, if they are fucking with you, which they are, call their superior and ask them what are the requirements to get an ID.

When you call a different DMV, ask multiple times to different people what you need to get your ID, trust me, you will get 5 to 10 different answers. Only idiots mainly work at the DMV and entry level jobs like those. And yes, most people at the DMV are smartasses like that.

Also, dress nicely and produce a false air of social confidence.

>>17668211

Honestly?

As a mercy from Odin.

My grillfriend of five years caught me cheating on her and gave me a week to find a new place to live; I'm on a fixed income so that's limited my options.

I also have a felony which severely limits my options.

So I'm stressing the fuck out and searching on Craigslist look for rooms to rent in my price range; there's fucking nothing and the few that are, are in the ghetto and/or are overpriced.

But I'm desperate so I e-mail but they won't even consider me since I have a felony.

That's when I come across an ad for a room in a nice part of of town for a bit above my price range so I e-mail the person about the room and they say it's still available if I want to come take a look.

Well I tell them I have a felony and that I understand if they don't accept felons; turns out it was house owners girlfriend who posted the ad and was, more or less, in charge of finding a renter.

She said to come out, take a look and talk to the owner so I assuming the worst, I did; I drove 17 miles west from my former condo to the house.

I knock on the door and a guy opens it up; his name is Steve and he owns and lives in the house. It's four bedrooms, has a pool, grill, hot tub, 70 inch HDTV in the living room, cable, high speed internet, flat panel HDTV mounted in the bedroom, the works.

I explain my situation with the girlfriend, the fixed income and the felony; I also tell about myself and how I go to college full-time.

He's super friendly and was really understanding about my situation; he had been fucked over by his wife back in Canada so he sold everything and moved down here.

Anyways, he says that he likes to rent one of the rooms out because he works as an on-call handy man or stays at his girlfriends place so he's gone a lot and knowing someone is there watching the place gives him peace of mind and money to pay for landscaper every month, haha.

>>17668258
Not everyone has a credit card so this is the DMV's fault. You need to either speak to a supervisor at your DMV or call the state (find the number by asking people you know to help you or call the operator by dialing 0 and explain) don't leave until you get a recipes or some sort of proof that your id will be mailed to you. Those woman do not care about you or your problems. Don't leave until you get your id. Protest if you have to.

>>17668268

Well it sounds like you were blessed, be very very grateful for that, I am happy to hear that you have found a good stable place to live.

Have you ever considered maybe doing some medical experiments? Those can pay pretty good sometimes.

>>17668268
how much? what area?

>no longer jobless
>next step move the fuck out

>>17668268

He says that he'd love to have me as a roommate/tenant and if I want the room, it's mine; I tell him how grateful I am for him trusting me enough to let me live there and I shake his hand.

He's OCD about keeping his sweet ass house nice and I'm also OCD so it's perfect; I keep his house spotless, I take the trash out when it's full and I'm friendly but keep to myself for the most part.

So he literally found the perfect renter in me; he even lowered the rent from $500 a month to $450 since he saw that I literally just had a bed and a desk to start my life over with.

I've been here 9 months and it's been great; we'd had 3-4 minor incidents but I chalk it up to him being kinda high strung, dealing with his girlfriend and/or having a shitty day at work but I always apologize and he does too.

I'm stress free, no drama in my life, I'm building up my savings slowly by surely and start school in January so things are going well and I thank Odin for that.

I don't know where I would have ended up if I hadn't clicked on that ad; I would be in a half-way house with 6 other ex-cons in the ghetto paying even more money than I do here.

Steve saved me and in return, he's earned my undying loyalty.

>>17668232
thanks brah, would you happen to know if joining the military helps in any way?

>>17668284

Surprise, Arizona.

$450 a month for rent/utilities, full access to everything, I have the entire east wing of his 2,300 square-foot house to myself and my own bathroom.

>>17668278

Thanks, senpai.

I fucked up and paid a heavy price but it won't happen again; I refuse to be that fucking stupid ever again.

I get $5,000 back each semester in grant money and subsided loans; I put that money away along with my money disability. I spent almost every other refund fixing up her condo and car so I never had an actual savings account before.

Also, since I'm legally disabled, once I max out my loans I fill out a single form, attach my official disability approval letter from Social Security and every penny of those loans is deleted with no impact on my credit at all.

I am blessed, I just need to not ever forget that.

>>17668299
>Also, since I'm legally disabled, once I max out my loans I fill out a single form, attach my official disability approval letter from Social Security and every penny of those loans is deleted with no impact on my credit at all.
fuckkkkkkkkk youuuuuuuuuuu my man damn fucking milk that clean slate my man

>>17668299

What are disabled for if I may ask? Not to shame you, just interested.

>>17668239
Get a list of other things you might be able to use instead. In NYS the way it works for example is you're required to have your SSC, birth certificate, and meet a certain point value with your proofs. Some types of proof are worth more than others, but there's many ways to meet it. See if they have any alternative options.

Any reformed NEETs here who are working now? How do you adjust to a work environment? I've been thinking of applying for work, but I'm not sure how well I'd adjust to a work environment. I've rarely, very rarely, interacted with anyone outside of my family for the past 4 years now and talking to anyone new freaks me(and consequently them) out. I want to gradually build my social skills and tolerance with new people up, but I'm not sure how. I don't want to be naive, like I was with college, and jump right into it and get overwhelmed with daily panic attacks then bail.

>>17664379
By hiding and enabling my fears for far too long. Now they've snowballed and are far more worse than they once were. I wish I faced my fears when they were smaller and less troublesome.

>>17669281
It's not hard to get wagecuck job, though I personally find wanting to kill myself while I'm there.

No peace anywhere.

I want a job but I don't know where to start. I tried Mturk but Amazon suspended my payment account and I'm too scared to call customer service to have them fix it.

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>>17664228
>>17668154

Plasma-NEET here. Basically did everything you suggested (hydrate a lot before and after, ate a big protein and carb rich breakfast lotsa eggs, meat veggies etc.). Thanks man. Still feeling a bit tired afterward but not that bad.

I guess I got lucky. The facility I went to was super nice and clean. As I said it looked to be in the better part of the city and it was. Staff was nice, mostly older folks, clean and the other people donating just looked like college kids or business women/men. No scummy looking people since it was in a higher-end of the city. Technicians just looked like average/older people, no weed-stench, tats, etc. or anything.

The needle did freak me the fuck out due to its size (I have a fear of needles) but I barely felt it going in so I calmed down. Just sat with a book, squeezing a little ball and the staff was very attentive to everyone there. Just felt weirdly uncomfortable since I've never given blood or anything like this. The only pain was a slight moment when the needle was being pulled out.

Got my cat some food and both of us tuna with just a small bit of the money. Probably going to go back since it was clean and strangely not that bad. Hoping it goes just as smoothly. Thanks for the tips though anon!

>>17669281
I started by building my self-confidence by complimenting myself in the mirror - about anything - daily and changing my thinking patterns from you can't do [thing] to coming up with reasons why I can. From there I started going out on walks to get out of the house and I really enjoyed it. I'd take walks away from the area I live in because I was uncomfortable around the people nearby, and I'd sit in the park and just relax. Eventually I'd practice looking ten or so sidewalk blocks ahead as I walked instead of at my feet, and later on about making eye contact and half smiling at passerbys. I also started exercising and dieting because I saw how much walking was helping me lose weight.

Once I could handle making eye contact I started going into shops and pretending to look to purchase something expensive that would warrant shopping around. If a sales associate asked if they could help I'd say yes and let them show me whatever it was I was looking for. After a while they'd ask if you need any more help, I'd say no thanks, I want to look around a bit. Then eventually leave the store, saying something about wanting to shop around a bit more first if they were near. Voice/video chatting can help with anxiety too.

After that I worked hard on coming up with a resume and eventually I would have started applying had I not lucked into the job my mother found me from one of her coworkers. But, that's another important part. I used to refuse job offers my family would try to get me.

Some other things to consider:
I only work part-time and I don't know if I could handle a full-time job yet, so it might be worth avoiding full time for now or starting out by volunteering. I also didn't feel like I was cut out for the job at first at all, and felt like I was constantly fucking up, but my boss absolutely loves me and I'm a great asset. Also, all this improvement took place over four years or so and I stagnated at points along the way. Change won't happen overnight.

I started looking for a job yesterday(put together my resumee). gonna send a lot of emails next week
How do I deal with the fact, that I'm going to grind my soul and body away for money that will not make me any happier?

>>17668308

Hey sorry for the next day response but officially I am diagnosed as having Bipolar Disorder and Agoraphobia.

I don't think I really have either since I go to college and social no problem but when I get too stressed out, I get super fucking manic and so the stupidest shit possible.

I did have a lot of social anxiety about 8 years ago but it's almost completely gone now.

>>17669281
>jump right into it and get overwhelmed with daily panic attacks then bail.

I'm looking for a job too (had some in the past but left my last job with savings) and I'll say just go part-time for now. Jumping in full-time could possibly stress you out while adjusting but part time will give you time to yourself, wiggle room in schedule and you'll probably have the option to grab more hours or move up to full in the future. Just dip your toes and ease in.

As for socializing that will just have to come with experience and practice, sadly. I was a nervous, awkward wreck until getting thrown on register at my first job. It was very much a sink or swim situation and I found talking to customers isn't that hard since you have a general topic of discussion. It took me longer adjusting to off the clock hanging out with coworkers but the register experience laid the groundwork and now people can't get me to shut the fuck up.

>>17669281

Going from 0-60 socially as a NEET is not a good idea; you need slow, steady and regular exposure to the outside world and people.

You'll get more comfortable and relaxed around people and it'll get easier; if not, get on Zoloft or Valium those help a lot with anxiety.

>>17670363

I've donated plasma about 7 times now and one time the technician put the needle in at the wrong angle and it bruised horribly for a few weeks.

Last month I donated then came home and put a bare ice pack on my arm and it give me 1st degree frostburn; they won't let me donate again until it fades which can take up to a year or more.

Well that's what I get for being a retard.

Fuck guys, I fucked up part of the test. I didn't get the job. It was going to be a shit job anyway and I would've hated my life but the pay was good. I'm not a full NEET but I graduated and haven't been doing anything since the Spring. I feel like shit.

>>17670448

Ditto, I'm been a hermit since January and I'm starting to lose my mind.

I posted an ad on Craigslist looking for friend to hang out with IRL before I an hero; that's how lonely I've become, haha.

neet with new job here, what's the least amount of time i have to be somewhere before i get another job?

i'd be better off dead

>>17670537
usually about six months full time, or at least here in Texas.

>>17670454
>ad on Craigslist

Are you looking to get yourself murdered or something?

do you guys ever think that even if you improve and become successful and move on to live a normal life none of it will really matter because you will always know deep down inside this is who you really are

>>17671703
That doesn't even make sense.

>>17671713

well maybe not to you

sometimes I imagine what it would be like to live a normal life to have a job, a house, a wife, maybe even kids
and every time someone would look at me and my life they'd see somebody who's got it all figured out, a happy healthy productive member of society
they'd never know who I used to be
they'd never know the loser, the failure, the outcast
but I always would and every time I imagine this I just can't shake the feeling that it would all be a big lie
it could never be just some simple "rags to riches" story because I've come to realize that the imaginary me is not really me at all
its a different person entirely

>>17663561
>>17671650

>>17664228

I did
you get some money, but its only good for a hamburger

>>17671745
What big lie? You ever have the money or you don't. It's not some Schroedinger's cat thing where everything disappears cos you look in your pockets.

>>17664431
I was in your boat (albeit at 23). Since then I've gotten a degree, studied abroad, >lost my virginity, gotten /fit/, and gotten a career.

The autism part is still a struggle, but I can socialize passably now. The trick is to realize that, with no friends, no gf, and no real career, you also have no shackles. Try doing an exchange program or some kind of temporary work thing where it forces you to leave home without dropping you off to fend for yourself.

A buddy of mine just did the JET program and seems to be having a blast.

Yo guys how do you make good small talk/ be entertaining? I heard just having stuff to talk about, so I guess reading up on shit? But right now all there is in the news is election shit, which isn't the best to talk about to people. Does anyone have any good sites with stuff that goes on in the news that isn't depressing? Also tips on small talk and being a good conversationalist in general.

I know humor is good as well, I can be funny sometimes but not on command, it just happens randomly. Maybe I should look into stand up comedy or something

>>17671703
Humans aren't stagnant. You're scared that if you 'make it' you'll still feel the same way you do right now and not have changed in any appreciable way at all. You might have a few of the same struggles, but you'd be a different, stronger person. I'm not the person I was years ago, that's not the real me. That's someone I used to be. The real me is who I am today and ten years from now, who I am today will just be someone I used to be back then.

>>17669281
the trick is to remember that they do not care about you. life is much easier this way. If you sperg out they will not care. The only reason why you and they are there are for money. Woman may be annoying but they stop caring if you are not interesting. Just remember to speak loudly, not try to be funny, say hello, please and thankyou and do what your boss tells you to do without a fight. life is easy if you do things like this. Remember to watch what people around you are doing to see how they interact and pick up things yourself. I wish you the best of luck.

how do I find a passion for college course?

>>17663561
I haven't posted here in 6 months but I successfully un-NEETed myself. Got a job back in June.

It was hell getting used to working full time. Stressful as fuck. What made it worse was a medical condition I have that didn't let me sleep, so usually twice a week I had to go to work without any sleep. I didn't give up though, no way I was regressing, so I plowed through it and now I'm pretty comfy. The executives of the company are praising me and my work is fulfilling since I work in healthcare. Earning a pretty comfy salary too and the company is very flexible and full of people that care.

I also met my long time online friend irl along with his gf and they've been breaking me out of my shell.

Unfortunately things could be better. She has cancer and I'm really stressed out about it. It hits close to home since she's a pretty cute 4chan weeb girl that lives less than 5 minutes from me. I'm optimistic though, hopefully we'll get through this.

>>17669281
>Any reformed NEETs here who are working now? How do you adjust to a work environment?

Once you get used to working, it starts feeling normal. Your body and mind adjusts to new environments. Your anxiety in social situations will start to reduce as time goes on. However, the hardest part that requires constant training for me is learning how to interact with people.

>>17664324
You'll have tons of competition if you apply for jobs at the most obvious places.

>>17671745
bunch of bullshit

i just got a job and in the few days i've been there any anxiety i've had towards things has been hilarious to me, even the shit that i thought i'd struggle with i handle smoothly now, that is to say, i proved to myself that my judgement of myself was way off without even wanting to


figure out what you want to figure out in relation to your own thoughts on shit, it doesn't matter


people are people,

when you're not nervous, your mind works towards finding solutions

just get out there do shit the monkey see monkey do part of your brain will take care of shit

>>17672426
small talk is straight up being able to connect on trivial shit


see someone with a certain jersey? comment on the team/ a player/ a play/ any related experience

straight up all small talk is free association, with the *social* aspect of it being finding solidarity in the common understanding of similar experiences

you don't even need to try to be entertaining, just talking about shit will be enough to get things to bubble up between people

>>17673104
do you have a degree?

>>17670373
Cos grinding away without money hurts a lot more?

>>17673228
Yeah. Bachelors in Econ.

How to move up out of wage cuck life?

Former NEET.
Checking back to ask what happened to the NEET farm?
I keep fantasizing about it during my workd days.

>>17664431
>not white.
Irrelevant. Find a girl who's into that shit and go full stereotype. I'm Italian, autistic as fuck and quiet. I found a cute foreigner girl who believed all Italians are sex gods full of passion and life. It kinda worked.

Even though we both only wanted to fug at first, the Southern European memes gave me my gf, then my own personality caught her for good. We've been together for one year already. Being someone's fetish feels damn good.
Good luck bro.

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>23
>been in college for 5 years now
>still a junior
>did part time, dropped and failed a few classes
>failing calc 2 so I have to drop
>going to be even more behind
>hate my accounting major
>not sure what I want to do with my life
>still very behind in my classes
>trying to finish school so I can get a better job to help my mom
>all my friends are moving on with their lives
>no gf ever
>constantly falling in love with pretty much any girl that shows me attention
>have feels for my old lesbian classmate who’s in a relationship in another city far away from me
>trying to make friends at uni but no one is really accepting me
>the friends I do have now are all just not really doing much with their lives
>My only best friend I have is also depressed, but he won’t talk about it
>still a virgin
>starting to feel more and more lonely
>whole family is having money problems
>hate working at my job
>lost all my baby gains
>life is beating my ass


I know this isn't a feels thread. I just needed to get this off my chest. I fucking hate school and my job. I feel like I am slowly close to losing it and just quitting both things. I feel like I am getting closer to becoming a neet.

I know most people would kill to be in my position, but I don't think I could really keep this shit up. How to you guys keep motivating yourselves to becoming better in life?

>>17663561

I'm not a neet, i'm a student, but i've dropped out of college once and have been a neet for several months before getting another education.

So i'm in college again, but i still act like a neet, i go to class, but i don't do any of my assignments and i spend my weekends and my evenings sitting on my bed browsing 4chan

What to do, anons, i have no motivation to do anything. I don't feel anything.

>>17674718
>italian
That's not really "not white" is it?

>go full stereotype
Ehhh....

>>17675494
literally me except I don't have a job because fuck life, I ain't gonna work shit

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>>17675531
Check the Pastebin, there's lots of useful shit in there about exactly that. Here's some of it.
http://www.getselfhelp.co.uk/depression.htm
http://www.getselfhelp.co.uk/energisingdraining.htm
http://www.llttf.com/index.php
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MOL822Z70BLJZNmDsVQeB5PEeFCFgpIbVLFkfb5eELw/edit

How do you guys reduce your stress?

It's hard to balance priorities right now. My family members don't communicate with eachother well, so I need to understand what's going on and resolve the conflict. College is coming to an end, and I want to have a job lined up after i graduate so that I can save up money to travel or find my own place. None of my family members walk the family dog, so it's up to me.
I pursued my entire college career just attending lectures and making friends with the people next to me, but never took friendships to the next level of hey-lets-hang-out friends. The friendships just ended when the class ended. So now I'm actually trying to be social. But it's hard to be social cause a lot of it is uncomfortable. Regardless, I still do it because I know that it's good exposure therapy (learned from my psychologist that I saw for my social anxiety).
A lot of what I do these days is justified by exposure therapy. "Even if you don't want to do it, just do it. If you don't do it your anxiety will feel worse tomorrow because you played it safe today." "Your anxiety is worse today because you played it safe yesterday. You should've done it." This is particularly stressful because I always have to debate with myself whether I want my anxiety to get better or not, and it's always a double edged sword. If I do something this day that isn't part of my normal routine of family/school/portfolio/dog, then I either have to stay up later than usual in order to get to those other things, or I'll have to skip something else, which is also stressing because it means that I won't be able to help my family, study, or work on my portfolio, or walk the dog. Even things like leaving a lecture early due to anxiety makes me feel like shit, cause it makes me feel worthless/regret leaving because it's like I don't want my anxiety to get better.

Thanks in advance.

>>17676745
Kind of dumb, but I do deep breathing stuff for a few minutes every day. It helps you relax because it gets more oxygen to your brain and the rest of your body.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7ySGgAFAAo

You can't do much about how many responsibilities you have, but you can try to reduce the effects of the stress they cause on your body and mind.

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>match with girl on tinder
>she adds me on facebook without asking (very distinct name so easy af to find)
>speak for a few days
>convo drops off so I stop messaging her
>she messages me again a week later
>pleasantly surprised that she'd message me first
>have a few nice convos
>today she starts talking about this dude she likes and wants to be with but is scared he'll pump and dump her
>literally goes into depth about how attractive he is and how she knows they'd have great sex
>apparently this is fine

I didn't join tinder to make fucking friends. I have no fucking chance with women as a 25 year old neet, do I? My last gf didn't even hang around for 3 months and basically ended things like I was a piece of trash, despite me making some big commitments just to be with her (long story).

>so this is how it feels to be lonely
>this is how it feels to be small
>this is how it feels when your word means nothing at all

Might fail out of uni ut I've worked as a checker at HEB for a couple of years. Could I make a career out of this if I needed to?

>>17676786

>big commitments just to be with her (long story).

Go on.

Back to your containment board
>>>/r9k/

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How do you guys meet new people?
I'm 22 and most of my friends have moved away, and the rest are too busy to hang out, or are too neckbeardy to leave the house anyway.


Have a picture of my cat, but I'm pretty sure 4chan is going to post it upside down anyway.

Recently, my graphics card died, and I'm looking for a job to get cash so I can replace it. I'm also trying to find new people to do stuff with. I went to a DnD meetup in Hollywood last Thursday and had a lot of fun, but didn't really strike a conversation with any of the people at my table after the game was over.

I wanna do more social outside activity, but I can't think of any that would help me meet new people and friends.

>>17676786
you sure she's not indirectly talking about you?

Any older people here? 31 here

>>17678676
25, not a NEET though, just a has been.

>>17678692
How did you get out? What do you do now?

>>17678676
Replying to my own post.
I have years of non working on my resume and learning a trade isn't an option because it takes years here in the EU and it pays very little because competition from both eastern Yuros and a lot of single man companies.

However many companies need customer services jobs filled in another country. Should I just try that? Can't be that bad to move to a cheaper country to get my euros and get my life on track.

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>>17678740

>Move to US
>Get a 2 month semi-truck driving class from community college
>Make about 35k to 43k first year, depending on job, flatbed can make a shit ton starting off
>Later down the line at around 5 years, make around 50k to 60k, get on with a better company or stay, maybe around 70k
>Or join Wal-Mart's personal fleet and at mid to late career make nearly 100k as a company driver

Word of caution, trucking is a tough job, other truckers for life will say otherwise, anyone with even an ounce of social yearning, this will be tough. You will be on the road a LOT. But, it is a good move if you plan on staying single and just save like a demon.

>Buy a cooler, spend $50 a week on food
>Try not to buy shit at truck stops, you will blow through $100 or more a week
>Entertain yourself, books, movies, audio-books, video games on laptop, etc.
>Save like a demon, save 30% to 40% of your income and then retire after 10 to 15 years, if you are single, longer if your married, etc.
>Be frugal until you get your retirement checks from the gubber'ment
>Enjoy the rest of your life
>Also, look into buying a "cheap" house if possible, and if you want to, rent it out room by room to people or the entire thing to make cash on the side
>Rent vs Mortgage: $800 for rent vs $850 for mortgage, I'll go with the mortgage
>Buy a fucking cheap but decent car, don't buy something worth 10k, go for 3k to 6k
>Don't eat out, eat at home, if you wanna eat out, eat cheap, since most places fucking charge like $10 to $15 dollars for a shitty meal that you or I could probably cook better at home than those retard chefs can
>Buy meat when it is marked down, shove it in the freeze
>If you wanna travel, look nationally first, (for US) go to Hawaii, Florida, maybe up to the Great Northern Mid-West, see the sights, which as a trucker, you will see a lot of anyways
>If your gonna travel internationally, do it cheap asf

It does not take a smart man to be clever.

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>>17675844
> http://www.getselfhelp.co.uk/energisingdraining.htm

I can see why I want to die now.

booump