Hunter x Hunter

>>161177662
Let's face it, it's gonna be cockroach chapters till the new hiatus starts

>>161177713
>>161177662
Next chapter will be another nen teaching.

>>161177662
Is the cockroach shit, the new "Octopus trying to trap an lobster in an elevator" meme?

Fightfags had the time of their lives last year, fuck off

>>161177765
>Chrollo vs Hisoka
>Good
An absolute waste of chapters and time. I would've preferred Togashi introducing the troupe and Hisoka again in another way.

>>161177789
I was talking about the endless shitposting that happened during it, I don't care if you enjoyed it or not.

>>161177662
Cockroach chapter was fantastic. If you can't appreciate the subterfuge focused chapters of HxH then I honestly question why you're reading this manga.

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Pitou is the best and cutest girl

where the fucks are the spoilers

>>161177662
>noticed the cockroach and not the queen being absolutely 10/10
literatim HOMO GAY COCKMONGLER or just summer time underage?

>>161178147
No one cares about girls here, post best boys

>>161178038
Cockroach chapter was literally nothing that could not have been summarized within 3-5 pages. Besides I wouldn't even batted and eyelash about it if wasn't for fact the most of content thus far has been generally stale. For fuck's sake nen is being rehashing onscreen for the gordrillionth time when that panel time could of went to more character development.

>>161177758
Man that chapter was amazing. The episode did it justice too.

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>>161177996
If the shitposting affects your enjoyment this much maybe you could just avoid reading the threads.

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>>161178206
No new Ging content.

>>161178243
This arc is literally Yorkshin 2.0, remember the arc where the main characters spent a couple of episodes bartering.

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>>161178206
Even when getting blown to pieces in a fight he had 0.00% of winning, Hisoka is still best boy.

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>>161178206
>tfw no Illu-nii-sama

>>161178255
I love Togashi's obsession of details.

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>>161178397
>>161178452
Why are Hisoka and Illumi so hot? Did they met at a gay bar? What does Silva think of his son's relationship with a gay killer clown pedophile?

Where the fuck is 368?

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So which Zodiac do you want to see going all out against spiders of some other threat?

>>161178629
I hope it never comes out, tasteless fucks wouldn't be able to appreciate it.

>>161178647
What do you mean?

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>>161178641
Best one of course. I guess he wouldn't be busy with the monkey as Beyond wouldn't try to get out this early.

>>161178392
>This arc is literally Yorkshin 2.0
Absolutely not. Even when Yorknew switched to the Gon and Killua money segments it didn't drown us with back to back chapters of repetitive information and little plot progression.

>>161178738
>repetitive information and little plot progression.
please do provide examples

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>>161178641
Saiyu, because I want to see his fighting style and how his monkey technique works. I like Mr. Cow, but honestly I'm thirsty for some real action and characters dying. Penalty cards don't lend towards that.

>>161178719
Man I hope he has some razor type of power level

>>161178038
Not him but i just reread that chapter and there was:
>Tubeppa's guard being introduced
>Oito finally being able to use the stolen ability
>demonstrating nen in front of all the other guards
>Ben's soldier being tricked into believing he knew Bill's ability
>Kurapika announcing his plan to teach nen to every guard
>Oito starting to spy on other princes
No way he could have fit all that shit in fucking 3 pages. Also you make it sound like they explained nen in detail again when it was all skipped, there was like half a page where he quickly explained to the other guards what nen beasts are.
This is some dumb shit you're saying anon.

This mini arc started at chapter 343. 7 unrelated chapters were given to the Hisoka/Kuroro fight. So, in 17 chapters a lot has actually happened for the succession war plot, imo.

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>>161178647
>Being appreciative of boring content written by a hack that should been ages ago

>>161178783
She means that we have had Theta explain Nen to Bateman. Pika has explained Nen to Monk Man. Pika is currently explaining Nen to Reverse-Trap's crew. Pika could soon be explaining Nen to every Prince.

We, who already know Nen, find this somewhat tedious.

>>161178329
Are you retarded? I was clearly talking about the Hisoka vs Chrollo shitposting from a year ago, and I didn't say anything about it affecting me.

>>161178835
But we have yet to reach the inevitable slowdown as action builds up to the climax

>>161178892
I guess I am I didn't double double check and thought you were talking about the cockroach chapter. My bad anon.

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Continuing from last thread:

This poll's query, so we can put to rest in the argument in this thread: What would happen if Baise successfully kissed the King?

Really the question could also be "Are Manipulator's abilities affected by power levels?" or "Can a character be too strong to be Manipulated?" or variations thereof. But I think the Baise and King example is the easiest to state.

What would happen if Baise successfully kissed the King?
http://www.strawpoll.me/13713437

I only ask, because last thread there were a lot of retards arguing. I was one of them.

I won't post this again, unless I do.

>>161178871
I love nen so much I don't see that as a problem. I guess it is just being set up for crazy 'Oh my rubber nen' moments are are coming.

>>161178719
This picture always makes me feel so uncomfortable. Dude looks like a baby. Dude has a six-pack. I don't know. Why always gay?

>>161178871
>Theta explain Nen to Bateman
We don't see that
>Pika has explained Nen to Monk Man
We don't see that either
>Pika is currently explaining Nen to Reverse-Trap's crew
He actually makes a point of demonstrating it instead of explaining it, that was the entire point of the chapter

>>161179062
I'd like it if we were getting new insights into Nen, but it's mostly just condensed stuff we already know. But, with Bateman's Nen ascension looming, we're likely going to get something spicy. Whether it's more about geniuses or about ancestral Nen or what. I'm ready.

>>161179051
Hunter X hunter is not a type of series where you can bullshit your way through. Wasn't using potclean part of the plan to kill the king?

Can Chrollo steal the king's ability?

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>>161179105
He doesn't have nearly enough fanart so I keep posting the same ones. He a cute though, enhancers always act like babies anyway.

>>161179180
>Wasn't using potclean part of the plan to kill the king?
No, it was just meant for Youpi. The plan to kill the King was always to separate him from the RG, bring him far away and detonate the nuke there.

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>>161178575
I don't even think Silva gives a fuck about any Illumi's life so long as he clocks in for work in the morning.

>>161179236
He gives me an emitter vibe though and considering his baseball bat. I want razor 2.0

>>161178452
Why would you post that?

>>161179162
>it's mostly just condensed stuff we already know
I just skimmed through the chapters since the end of the hiatus and literally all of the times a character had to explain nen to someone who didn't know about it were skipped save for two panels about conditions and pledge. You're complaining about nothing.

>>161179338
>skimmed
Inb4 speedreader

>>161179316
>>161179236
Enhancers and Emitters are really quite similar in Hisoka's scale.

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>>161178977
It's fine anon, it happens.

>>161179316
That makes sense and would be more interesting. I forgot how similar emitter and enhancer personalities were according to Hisoka's test.

>>161178540
That shit barely even came into play too, he gave it a detailed explanation just for something that ultimately gave Ikalgo a few seconds so he could reach the control panel.
I think Togashi has read some naturalist authors because they also tend to go into autistic detail about mundane stuff.

How come when Shalnark uses his needle on people that it kills them after he's done but it doesn't kill himself when he uses autopilot?

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>>161179327
Because I'd like Illumi to torture me like that. Here, have a cute one.

>>161179684
>it kills them after he's done
Do we know that?

>>161179737
Well we always see the people he uses it on drop dead after he's done with them.

>>161179684
>>161179847
I though it was Illumi needles that ultimately kills the host

>>161179888
Shalnark is a typical spider sociopath so he uses his 'toys' until they break.

By the way, Shalnark said his skill wasn't special. Is using needles to control people a typical manipulator skill?

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If Kurapika's strategy to reach a stalemate is to offer every Prince to learn nen, how will that play out for Bateman and Theta? I can see Bateman being interested but i doubt Theta would agree.
Also how come neither him or Bill has seen Woble's nen beast, is it wandering somewhere else on the ship?

>>161179847
When have we seen that? I only remember that one dude in Yorkshin but i'm pretty sure he was shot dead

>>161179995
Controlling people in whatever way possible is the typical manipulator skill, the only manipulator I can think of who doesn't control other people is Morel.

>>161180067
There's Kalluto, also isn't Shoot a manipulator?

>>161179995
You've got to use something. Needles are pretty easy because you just jab. And Manipulating humans seems like the best use for Manipulation unless you're comboing it with Emission.

>>161180000
It could just be wandering, or it could be that worm we saw awhile back. Would make sense since Woody was sucked dry by a Nen Beast.

>>161180067
There's some outliers like Kalluto and Shoot. Even Ikalgo's is pretty weird.

>>161179684
We only saw him using the ability on normal people and himself. People without Nen probably can't resist the attack and die after being freed.

>>161180067
Squala, Leech, Cat Emperor Time Gorilla Man, and Kalluto don't control people.

Although Gorineu can teleport people with his apes, so it kind of counts.

There was some anon from about a week ago who said that he would draw a HxH/mononoke crossover at my request? Are you still here, drawfriend anon?

>>161180338
More?

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>>161180428
No.

>100 chapters into the DC, they get to Don Freecss
>cue tournament arc

>>161180499
I'd be happy to see some fights and to know the hiatus-ridden corpse is finally put to rest. But I would be platinum mad for the rest of my life. A man cannot stand two Raizens in one lifetime.

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>>161180468
yes

>>161177662
Izunabi is really handsome, easily best HxH daddy, I want more of him.

>>161180638
This is so cuuuute!!!
Gon has some nice Converse.

Machi is objectively the most beautiful HxH girl now that Pitou is no longer alive.

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>>161180786
yeah, they're a pretty adorable duo

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>>161179051
>Are Manipulator's abilities affected by power levels?
No, that's the main advantage of Manipulators.

>>161181192
Do you like YYH or HxH more?

I always say that YYH has the better anime (with an excellent English dub that makes the anime even better because it makes the dialogue livelier) and that HxH has the better manga.

>>161181253
>control multiple people with group text
That phone really was an amazing medium for Shalnark's manipulation.

>>161179051
I don't think manipulator abilities are affected by power level, but what it takes to activate their ability may be affected by power level. In Baise's case I don't think she could activate the ability on Meruem, simply because I don't believe that she could get her aura into his body even by kissing him. The aura of the manipulator has to actually enter to body of their target, and I don't think her aura could get past his unless he let it. Similarly I don't think that either Shalnark's antenna or Illumi's needles could pierce his aura to enter his body.

>>161179051
Every single category gets stronger the more you train it. Nen is supposed to represent the results of hard training, dedication, conviction and talent, not some random superpowers that are given to you.

>>161179180
>Can Chrollo steal the king's ability?
No.

>>161181253
So you un-ironically think that Manipulation is the only category that is completely worthless to train in, because putting 1 point in there automatically makes you able to control anyone.

>>161181718
>The aura of the manipulator has to actually enter to body of their target,
This is true.

And it's why manipulation will always be affected by power level. If Shalnark or Illumi want their needles to penetrate a very tough opponent (a monster with a thick skin or a very strong Enhancer) they must use Shu. And Shu is an Enhancement technique. There's no way their 40% could penetrate Pitou (no one gets to penetrate her except me), Pouf, Youpi or Menthuthuyoupi.

>>161181735
>that is completely worthless to train in
Are you retarded? Why would it invalidate training? You think you can be a good fighter if you are not good at the basics and stuff? And who would let you fulfill your conditions without doing anything?

>togashi could have ended this shit at the election arc
Doesn't he have the $$$ set for life too? I guess he still loves being mangaka

>>161178120
Spoilers come in in 5.

>>161181836
>Are you retarded? Why would it invalidate training?
If Manipulator abilities are not "affected by power levels" (according to you) then there's no point in training in Manipulation. You can just be a Transmuter and train whatever you want and still get a Manipualtion ability to work by putting a mere 3 points (2.5) in that category, which would work just as well as Illumi's because it's unaffected by power levels.

>>161181867
He really does. He's even releasing a new one shot in Jump. Another guy is doing the art though.

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How does this make you feel? >>161180277

>>161181979
You are retarded indeed. "nOt being afffected" by power levels means that there is no way to resist it once the Manipulator has fulfilled his conditions, and it's for a certain type of manipulation abilities, Shoot or Porcupine have different ones. The fact that you say that a Transmuter should focus on this knowing the Nen compatibility try makes you even more retarded. Illumi or Shal would be unable to control Meruem because their needles can't penetrate his skin, but Baise's works with a kiss, it would work assuming she manages to come close enough and kiss him.

>>161182117
Why would they rank hxh? Hisoka is back confirmed.

>>161182117
It means literally nothing to me. Togashi is the Lynch of manga authors, he doesn't need sales to be a legend.

>>161182117
>HxH is 9th in this week's TOC
So?

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>>161182117
don't really care

>>161181718
>In Baise's case I don't think she could activate the ability on Meruem, simply because I don't believe that she could get her aura into his body even by kissing him.
Actually we still don't understand the mechanism that governs manipulation. Given it's proximity to emissions we can assume they are projecting their aura to some capacity, but then you have cases like Illumi and Morel who pre-program their commands into objects that aren't connected to them anymore. Plus if >>161181253 is correct all it takes is completing the conditions.

So for Shalnark you are correct, he needs to pierce his opponent. But for Baise all she has to do is steal a kiss and she has control because that is her condition and it disregards physical durability.

>>161181735
>because putting 1 point in there automatically makes you able to control anyone
>putting 1 point
Do you even Nen? It's not a point based system, you need to train an ability from the ground up. To make an ability still takes months of training, plus you still have the affinity of your categories to deal with and your personal tendencies. And while it's easy to know what having a less than 100% affinity for something like emissions or enhancement does, we don't really know what less than 100% affinity for manipulation means outside of "poorer control" so someone like Netero who has the worst manipulation affinity has to tie each movement of his boshivda to his own movements 1:1.

>>161182194
So let's see, my argument

>All Nen categories work similarly and can scale based on how hard you train your Nen (and can get exponentially stronger in power with the right restrictions etc.).

Your argument:

>Manipulation is a special category but only if you use it in a special way (manipulating other people), otherwise it's not special.

>>161182264
>It's not a point based system
http://hunterxhunter.wikia.com/wiki/Nen#Quantification_of_Aura

I guess your brain was fried like Gon's when Knuckle explained it.

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>>161181979
>>161181826
In other Shonen these type of tricky character fall behind power level based ones.
But in hunter hunter the rules are followed. If Shalnark pins you then its over. On the flipside Conjurers and manipulators are far from enhancement so they tend to be frail. I bet no normal manipulator can manage to fulfill conditions against the king much less get past his guard. But at the same time I bet characters like Ging and Pariston would have found some bullshit way to deal with him.

>>161182335
>If Shalnark pins you then its over
Yeah, just like when Kurapika put his blade on Chrollo's heart it was over for him.

Nothing in Nen is absolute. It's like thinking Meruem has absolute invincibility because Netero couldn't hurt him.

>>161182304
You still need to train Manipulation, retard. Stop talking about points. You need to train your hatsu vigorously because of how strong an effect it is. If Sharl wasn't a Master Manipulator, then his set of conditions would not work.

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>>161182117
>Crapika arc is so shit that even blackclover and golf outranked it
Japan has spoken.

>>161182396
>Stop talking about points.
Why? Because the manga does it and you don't want to admit it because it makes your entire argument crumble?

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anyone got that manga drawing of gon raising his hand up hi waving kinda, with a big grin on his face?

>>161182304
All categories have their advantages and wekanesses retard. Aura also matters for Maniulation, there are also risks: the aura put in the items, the fact that they need real ones to use them that way, the conditions to fulfill to activate it, your manipulation skills depending on your affinity + control of the basics to survive in battles involving Nen. Manipulation is not special, it does what it does. Baise could manipulate Meruem but how would she manga to do that in a fight? Why do you think people always try to find out what is the opponent's ability and why do you think all the basic Nen applications exist? You create abilities to be able to fight any kind of opponent in general, regardless of his type. Retard.

>>161182436
Way to not argue because you have absolutely no examples to prove your theory. Name a single character who overcame a Manipulator's control because of their strength.

>>161182264
>but then you have cases like Illumi and Morel who pre-program their commands into objects that aren't connected to them anymore.
They do that by putting their aura into those things, and with the commands in that aura. Nothing in nen happens without someone using their aura to do it.

Guys, what is important is that Baise is the only sexy female Togashi has ever written.

>>161182566
I think you are a fag.

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>>161182331
So you think quantifying aura amounts is the same as assigning a value to how proficient someone is at a particular category? Guess you're retarded.

If you were trying to make a point you could at least have brought up Izunavi gave the "level 10 conjurer" example but even then it's not a literal "you have X experience points in a skill". But a reinforcement of the notion of diminishing proficiency with nen categories. Nobody can just "put a point in" a category and get an ability related to that. You make an ability with, or incorporating, that category and must work around your affinity either through restrictions or conditions.

This is how someone like Shoot is able to make a contained pocket dimension (something elusively in the domain of conjuration) despite being a manipulator himself.

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>>161177662
Honestly I liked the cockroach chapter. Somehow it was done well.
I also liked similar chapters such as Gon and Killua dealing with Zepile.

I bet Ging is a gary stu special snowflake who has 100% efficiency in all nen categories.

>>161182710
>Gary Stu
He has flaws.

>>161182729
Being the world's worst dad isn't much of a flaw

>>161182710
I bet you're wrong. What are the stakes?

>>161182509
Killua is the only character who could use Nen that was affected by a manipulation ability.

And he overcame it.

I think you just got completely destroyed, friend.

>>161182638
>So you think quantifying aura amounts is the same as assigning a value to how proficient someone is at a particular category?
Yes.
>Guess you're retarded.
Guess you are. You just posted another picture from the manga that quantifies Nen proficiency. Speedreading your own posts, that's a new level.

>>161182638
>Shoot is able to make a contained pocket dimension with his usage of his Conjuration ability.

Fixed.

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IT'S HAPPENING

http://onepiece-jump-manga.com/1067015172.html

Momoze suffocated to death

>>161183039
What the hell, I can't select text. How am I supposed to copy paste into Google Translate to pretend that I know what's it saying?

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>>161183039
>ヒソカ

>>161182940
>Killua is the only character who could use Nen that was affected by a manipulation ability.
Not him, but I will tell you how dumb it is for you to think that. Illumi used his needle on Killua, but he didn't use a technique to take full control of him, he put suggestions in this and it was affecting Killua's mind. It worked perfectly. He has stronger techniques like the needles he used for Needlemen. If he wanted to make Killua a puppet, he would have done it. Manipulators are not limited to a single technique for their abilities, faggot.

>>161183098
That means Hisoka.

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>>161182880
>he has no flaws!
>lists a flaw
>that doesn't count

Is momoze really dead? what if the culprit guy Oito saw was actually trying to make a fake corpse of her by using his ability?

>>161183039
>Theta dead
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>161183138
No, he didn't use full control because such strong effect wouldn't work when he's three thousand miles away from him. This ability probably works only on Zoldyck family members and requires a couple of other restriction in order to work that far. A strong manipulation effect like the one Knuckle's hatsu carries only has a range of 100m and Knuckle is an emitter so his range should be far superior to Illumi. Only a highly restricted and weak effect like this can work at such massive range.

>>161183039
>http://onepiece-jump-manga.com/1067015172.html
I don't read moon, can someone give me the gist?

>>161183039
Wait did Tse's beast attack Theta at the last panel?

>>161183258
FAKE

>>161182117
You know, I always wondered how HxH was so popular in JUMP at all. While it's great, the way Togashi writes doesn't seem like something that would appeal to the average Naruto or Academia reader. You can see this surfacing in how many people are complaining about this arc being too wordy so I'm not surprised that it's so low.

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>>161182940
>Yes.
Than you didn't read the series.

>You just posted another picture from the manga that quantifies Nen proficiency
The point of that isn't to provide a concrete assertion of nen categories as levels. Just to demonstrate how emperor time works in relation to the limits an individual will have on nen proficiency. It's not the same structure as the one you are asserting by any stretch of the imagination. And unlike your nonsense, we can see how limited proficiency affects Hatsu within the story.

Now show me an example of Nen actually being treated as a point buy system like a White Wolf game where each skill has dots.

>>161182983
Both of out statements are true. Shoot is primarily a manipulator. He has a 60% affinity with Conjuration and is still able to create 3 fully opposable hands and his hotel which houses a pocket dimension. That trait alone is something that we've only seen primary conjurers (know, Cheetu, and vacuum chick) use.

>>161183276
It worked even far away, the needle was always in him. He was never fully controlling him, full control is what happens to people affected by Shalnark's ability.

>>161183338
Shoot doesn't really have a pocket dimension, he has a set up so that things are shrunk to enter the cage, making the cage effectively able to contain larger things, not actually expanding the size of the cage. This is more similar to Owl's fun fun cloth(though that is also conjuration).

>>161183325

His volume sales are through the roof.

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>>161183039
Good looking Thaithon.

>>161183440
True, I guess you could say it's still a nen space. Just with the stipulation that it alters the size of the object rather than being larger on the inside that it appears on the outside.

Shoot is not using conjuration user at all. The hands are real, the cage is real. The ability steals specific body parts when conditions are fulfilled, it's not a pocket dimension, things are shrunk in the cage.

Will Babymaina become a bro?

>>161183440
Because of its similarities to Owl's ability, I'd classify it as Conjuration. It's the closest thing to it and not unreasonable.

Is Momoze really dead or is this a fakeout?
She seems pretty confident last time we saw her.

>>161183537
Owl's ability is to shrink things with a very specific cloth, it's very clearly conjuration. The cloth has been imbued with that power, it doesn't mean shrinking things is conjuration.

Is it possible that she's actually Gons biological mom? It would explain Gon-sans height and physical genetics in comparison to manlet king ging

>>161183675
I don't mean to imply that I think shrinking things is a conjuration ability, but when we have two examples of items associated with it, one confirmed to be Conjuration, I feel the other probably is too. Owl has his cloth and Shoot has his bird cage hotel.

>>161183338
>He has a 60% affinity with Conjuration and is still able to create 3 fully opposable hands and his hotel which houses a pocket dimension
So? Netero has 60% Manipulation and he can still use it to move his Emitted statue at superspeed. You know why? Because he put lots of points in it (trained it very hard).

>Than you didn't read the series.
No, it's you who didn't. You don't even understand how Emperor Time works. It doesn't make Kurapika able to use every category perfectly. It just raises the EFFICIENCY of all categories to 100%, so his Enhacement abilities are just as strong as an Enhancers, etc. He still has to put points in (train) these abilities. He needed to train Emission and Manipulation for Judgement Chain (and he needs 100% in both of those to make them strong enough, which is why it only works in Emperor Time) and he needed to train Enhancement for defense/Holy Chain.

>>161183437
Shalnark's ability also works only as far as he can emit it (so not very far away from his receiver). Your Nen cannot exist outside of your emission range unless you use conjuration to contain your Nen inside your conjured object.

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>>161183629
Unless she pulls off a O MY ARE YOU FREE? she ded.

>>161183727
>Shoot has his bird cage hotel.
The bird cage is real though. We know Manipulator's items need to be real and items they are familiar with. The hands and cage are a set which make his ability work. It's pure manipulation.

>>161183795
Manipulators COULD use conjured items. It's just not particularly efficient.

PRAY FOR FUU!!

>>161183831
But why would they when it's not efficient? Shoot's items are clearly not conjured, they are hidden on the side of his left arm.

>>161183795
The cage is conjured. The levitating hands are obviously conjured too. He took his entire arm off to be able to do that.

>>161183293
Momoze was choked to death (there's a chance it's a fakeout) by some guy Hanzo assumed it was a shadow clone nen user.

>>161183875
Because if the cage was real he would need to actively manipulate it all the time to keep whatever is in it inside. Since the cage is conjured, it can do it automatically. It's not a very complicated thing compared to what other conjured items (by conjurers) do.

>>161183761
When there's some kind of death game, I'm most suspicious of the person who dies first.

If there's no trick then poor Momoze got fucked by her Mom taking all her loyal bodyguards away, so unjust

>>161183875
I agree, I don't think most manipulators would waste their time with conjuration. But I just wanted to point out that Manipulators' items don't necessarily "need to be real". Though conjured items are technically real regardless

>>161180499
i want another togashi tournament arc desu

demon world tournament got snubbed too early

>>161183942
If it was one of the top five princes I'd call hacks but Momoze is so underwhelming as a character I complete buy that she was assassinated.

>>161183879
If it was conjured then it would not be hidden in his clothes since he could make it appear and disappear at will.
>>161183936
>actively manipulate it all the time to keep whatever is in it inside
Manipulate what? He has no control over what is inside. It just keeps things shrunk here.

>>161183889
what about the last part was Theta attacked by Tserriesnich?

>>161184205
>Manipulate what? He has no control over what is inside. It just keeps things shrunk here.
Exactly. He just keeps things shrunk there. But you can't keep shrunk body parts inside a normal cage. So either you manipulate this functionality onto the cage or you make a conjured cage that does this for you.

>If it was conjured then it would not be hidden in his clothes
He can have a restriction to keep the cage with him all the time, just like Kurapika did with his chains. He keeps his conjured hands under there all the time too, even though they're obviously conjured as well (unless you want me to believe he was born with four hands).

>>161183731
>Netero has 60% Manipulation and he can still use it to move his Emitted statue at superspeed
As far as it's described the statue moves at the speed netero moves. He's an enhancer who is got his body up to super sonic speeds, therefore his statue that has a 1:1 ratio of his body movements can move at supersonic speeds as well. If he were only able to move at normal speeds, without separate conditions it would move also move at normal speeds.

Simple no?

>It doesn't make Kurapika able to use every category perfectly
It's a good thing I didn't say that it did then.

>He still has to put points in (train) these abilities
You can't wrap these two concepts together anon. Again, this is not a point based system like a tabletop game. You can train a category but that doesn't mean that you get single measurable increments of progress with regards to Hatsu. But since you like this analogy so much please describe what a single point entails.

Conjurers have to have a strong mental image of the thing they want to make and then it appears. Manipulators have to own the object they want to use for manipulation for a significant time and develop the bond necessary to create a manipulation ability with it. Those are the facts of the series.

>He needed to train Emission and Manipulation for Judgement Chain
Yes but the the effectiveness of the manipulation (how complex it is) is very low and within the idea of 60% efficiency. It can only accept two commands and has only one action it can take in response to the conditions being broken compare this to Morel who can give complex orders to his Deep Purple and you see what really is at play with respect to making abilities.

As for what 40% emissions factors into this, we're not sure if that means he'll have a shorter range or be able to disconnect less aura from his body, etc. Either way He has to use his chain as a vehicle for his emissions so there is that to think about.

>>161184116
At this point, it would be extremely difficult to fit in a tournament arc and have it be justified. All of our characters's goals are so desperate and disparate. Except Hisoka. But nobody wants to fight the murder clown just for fun.

368 spoilers essentially boil down to
-momoze dead by suffocation in sleep
-some strategizing and discussion of how this happens
-nen beasts rest when a human is drained or sleeping it seems like - easiest time to assassinate
>Biscuit and Hanzo actually get to talk
-Tserriednich learns about kurapika's nen in 2 weeks thing and questions theta. She lies, and he says something about hating liars, and then his nen beast kills her

>>161184324
>Exactly. He just keeps things shrunk there. But you can't keep shrunk body parts inside a normal cage.
Or you imbue the cage with that power for your hatsu? Just like Shal and others can imbue their items with powers? The cage is just a part of it.
>>161184324
>He can have a restriction to keep the cage with him all the time, just like Kurapika did with his chains. He keeps his conjured hands under there all the time too,
This is your headcanon. Kurapika was doing this to bait people. Looking at Shoot it's pretty obvious some is hidden under his left arm. And it was not obviously conjured. This is exactly why Kurapika's bait worked, because onnly conjurers and manipulators can put this much aura into items. And what is Shoot? A manipulator.

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>>161184457
plz no

Thetafags are on suicide watch

>>161184457
>She lies, and he says something about hating liars, and then his nen beast kills her
Thank god, I hate meme characters. I hope Bill is next but it will take time.

>>161184618
>And it was not obviously conjured
Jumping in, but it's a 50/50 on whether or not it is a conjured object but since the hands are conjured, why wouldn't we also assume the cage isn't conjured as well? So far we haven't seen a manipulated object do something in teh same vein as what the cage can do. But we have seen conjured objects warp space and shrink things down to fit inside them.

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>>161184457
>two waifus in one chapters
What the fuck I love the succession war arc now!

>>161184295
He heard Kurapika's explanation about Nen by a bodyguard and according to it you can learn Nen in two weeks but remember Theta said it took half a year.
Tse started doubting if she really told the truth about Nen.
Theta said she's not lying and Kurapika must use some cheat ability to learn Nen quickly.
Tse said he hates lying women and he'll kill her if she's lying.
Theta said she's not lying once again.
Tse's nen beast gazed at her before flesh blood splashed in the room.

>>161184846
Hmm, Theta isn't really lying, though.

>>161184875
>before flesh blood splashed in the room.
let's hope it's the other bodyguard dude who died.

>>161184331
>As far as it's described the statue moves at the speed netero moves. He's an enhancer who is got his body up to super sonic speeds, therefore his statue that has a 1:1 ratio of his body movements can move at supersonic speeds as well. If he were only able to move at normal speeds, without separate conditions it would move also move at normal speeds.
So? Doesn't change the fact that the statue is manipulated.

>You can't wrap these two concepts together anon.
Why? Because you don't like it? Just because it's not a game doesn't mean training can't be quantified, especially when Togashi himself does it.

>Conjurers have to have a strong mental image of the thing they want to make and then it appears.
Doesn't mean they don't have to train their abilities.

>Manipulators have to own the object they want to use for manipulation
Blaise doesn't own men.

>Yes but the the effectiveness of the manipulation (how complex it is) is very low and within the idea of 60% efficiency.
If it isn't so complex, he wouldn't need Emperor Time to do it. It takes a massive amount of skill to emit even such simple manipulation about as far as Illumi can emit his Killua needle (basically across all the continents). He never uses 40% Emission, because he uses Judgement Chain only while he's at 100%.

>>161181001
Machi is objectively the most beautiful HxH girl.

>>161184618
>Or you imbue the cage with that power for your hatsu?
That's what I already said is an alternative. But that would mean actively manipulating the cage all the time as opposed to simply summoning a conjured cage. It is conjured anyway, so it's pointless to argue about it.

>This is your headcanon.
Says the guy pushing his headcanon that the cage isn't conjured. I'm just offering a legitimate theory why he doesn't keep it hidden. Maybe he doesn't need to keep it hidden and just keeps it up because he wants to. It doesn't matter, it's still conjured.

>>161184718
>why wouldn't we also assume the cage isn't conjured as well?
Because it's been explained why Kurapika does'nt hide his chains. Why would you assume that Shoot does the same? It's obvious Shoot has something hidden when you look at him, he is not bating people. Looking at his hands you can guess he is a manipulator anyway. Using conjuration for a item easily noticeable while you are a manipulator is dumb too. Shoot isn't warping space and even if he were it would not mean it's conjuration.

>>161181826
that wasnt the issue tho. It was about if the enemy is stuck, will he be able to resist

>momoze fags thought she had some deep plan to win
>she just knew she was gonna die and that's why she was so calm

>>161183537
It's possible to achieve similar results with different categories you know.

>>161184875

i don't understand this. theta would defend against the nen beast.

wait for bakadata

>>161183537

it's not. shoots just shrinks objects and people down to size so they fit in the bird cage.

novu and owl create pocked dimensions where objects and people exist in alternate dimensions.

>>161185080

it'll just be what we know but with more detail lol.

face it bub, momoze is dead. and theta might be.

>>161185026
They can resist Blaise because her manipulation isn't as powerful (Illumi's manipulation is powered up by the fact that he needs to penetrate you with his needles, a restriction). Blaise is straight up just a kiss to manipulate. It probably wouldn't even work on Netero, much less Meruem.

Illumi and Shalnark's needles will never work on Metruem/Royal Guard/Netero because they will never go through their defenses. Whether it would work on them or not if something that can never happen happened is a moot point. Someone who's 1000 times as stronger as Meruem couldn't be controlled by anyone who actually exists in the series, that's for sure.

>>161184990
>. But that would mean actively manipulating the cage all the time as opposed to simply summoning a conjured cage.
You don't get it do yuo? Look at Shoot's fucking left side, the cage is always here, he has never ever summoned it. How does it mean that it's conjured? Why can't it be stuck to his left side? You can see the chains when he revealed it. There is a chain which keeps his cage there. Using conjuration for something you carry all the time is retarded.
>I'm just offering a legitimate theory
And for this, Shoot has to be a retard who wastes his aura for conjuring 4 items and then using manipulation to control them plus have a condition which forbids him to do hide it. Just because.

>>161184457
>learns about kurapika's nen in 2 weeks

If true this shit is getting retarded.

>>161185134
>Look at Shoot's fucking left side, the cage is always here
It means literally nothing. Kurapika's chains are also always there. Either it's because it's a restriction like Kurapika's or Shoot simply doesn't care. Having the cage do what it does for him is nowhere near as much of a "waste" of aura as constantly Manipulating it to achieve the same effect would be.

>>161185134
>Using conjuration for something you carry all the time is retarded.
Also, the main advantage of conjuration is that you can just have it exist all the time. Conjured items don't disappear when you enter a state of Zetsu, unlike a transmuted or emitted item.

>>161185183
Dude, why is it so hard for you to recognize that it doesn't require conjuration at all? These are real items. Next you will tell me that Shalnark, Morel and Illumi uses conjured items just because "it's possible". That condition that he needs to show it is stupid because he fights with his arms and thanks to the floating arm you can easily guess that he is a manipulator. Kurapika's chains are stuck to his fingers and he made them with his aura, it's different from what manipulators do with their items. Give up anon, they are not conjured. It is possible but extremely retarded and inefficient.

>>161185174
Agreeded, even Gon and Killua needed about two months and they were 1 in 10million

>>161185342
>Dude, why is it so hard for you to recognize that it doesn't require conjuration at all?
I already said that it's possible for it to work without conjuration hours ago But he still uses conjuration to do it, because he's smart (unlike you).
> Give up anon, they are not conjured
Literally your headcanon that you're pushing. It says he's a Manipulator who uses Conjured hands + cage in the databook.

>>161185342
>Next you will tell me that Shalnark, Morel and Illumi uses conjured items just because "it's possible".
It is possible, but there's no reason for them to do it, because the needles have no purpose at all other than to carry their Nen to the target and in Morel's case the pipe also doesn't do anything that a normal pipe doesn't.

>>161185356
He probably means just the basis. no shit like hatsus and shu an d things like those. just ten for basic defence

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>>161184944
>So? Doesn't change the fact that the statue is manipulated.
The point isn't that he's not using manipulation, the point is the statue can only mimic his motions and speed.

>especially when Togashi himself does it.
Show me the page that says that nen works the way you say it does? I'm still waiting.

Please explain what "one point" means.

>Blaise doesn't own men.
You're right, but she owns her lips and has a specific action she has to do. She's honestly the only fringe case of manipulation you have in terms of medium used.

>If it isn't so complex, he wouldn't need Emperor Time to do it
He needed emperor time to make the chain durable once it left his body it arguably has nothing to do with the complexity of the ability itself, but he's at a 40% proficiency with emissions (the worst rating anyone can have for a non specialist category) He never states that he needs emperor time to increase the command complexity. The chain would just be too weak to be a threat if he didn't have that boosted durability.

>>161185429
>But he still uses conjuration to do it, because he's smart (unlike you).
Did you read my post at all? If you agree that it's possible why do you find using conjuration smart when it's a pure waste of aura?
>>161185462
>there's no reason for them to do it
And there is no reason for Shoot to do it. The cage is only here to store the stolen objects.

>>161184991
>Why would you assume that Shoot does the same?
I don't. He clearly keeps the hands conjured and hidden under the cloak, he's also always floating the cage under there. If the hands are conjured at all times maybe it's a condition he has to fulfill that isn't related to trying to fake out people.

>Shoot isn't warping space
He's able to shrink objects down and contain parts of a living body without injuring the host proportional to the removed parts (they don't bleed out of their stolen head chunks for example). He's definitely warping space.

>>161185342
dude, Morel and Shalnark use clearly real items.
source that one time Pufu stole the pipe and that one time Chrollo took the phone out of his pocket.

The needle we don't know but they're probably just real needles that he stores in his body for maximum carnage.

What i wanna know is: why Momoze? why!?

>>161185550
>when it's a pure waste of aura?
Do we even know the aura consumption rate for conjured abilities? If someone like Kurapika can keep the chains manifested indefinitely maybe there is only a summoning cost and no cost to maintain only repair or re-summon.

>>161185532
>The point isn't that he's not using manipulation
He is. There's no other magical way to move the statue. Are you the same idiot who thinks the cage isn't conjured?

>Show me the page that says that nen works the way you say it does?
Kurapika's levels.
Knuckle explaining Nen ability costs.

I won't bother posting the other one since you already posted the first one and you didn't even bother to read it yourself.

>He needed emperor time to make the chain durable once it left his body it arguably has nothing to do with the complexity of the ability itself
>arguably
And 40% would never be good enough for an ability like Judgement chain, he would be a Kastro level idiot to train his 40% emission strong enough to handle it.

>If you agree that it's possible why do you find using conjuration smart when it's a pure waste of aura? Constantly manipulating an object to do something that's demonstrably easy to do with conjuration (Knov does it on a much larger scale and better, because he's a 100% Conjurer) is idiotic.

>>161185601
>maybe it's a condition he has to fulfill that isn't related to trying to fake out people.
That's pointless. There is no believable reason to do it at all. His ability his straightforward, he doesn't do damage but still limbs instead. The chain is on his arm so support the cage. And the three hands are obviously stored in his cage .

>>161185550
>And there is no reason for Shoot to do it. The cage is only here to store the stolen objects.
Let me reiterate it one more time:

Cage does magical things.
Needles and pipe don't do magical things. The former just carries Nen, the latter produces turns kush (tonkotsu) into smoke.

>>161185770

you do realize "the cage doing magical things" is literally just manipulation right? which is making things smaller. with the condition being shoot has to hit you a certain amount of times with the floating fists.

it's not doing anything magical, it's working in conjunction with his ability.

>>161183039
Aren't these just the early fake spoilers or are they confirmed?

>>161185818
>you do realize "the cage doing magical things" is literally just manipulation right?
It isn't manipulation. It could be, if Shoot was retarded, but since he's not, he conjured a magical cage that does magic thing on its own, so that he can focus his Manipulation skill on more important areas (aka his hands).

It's the same reason why Feitan conjures his suit of armor instead of transmuting it even though he's a transmuter.

>>161185858
It's from the same guy. it's confirmed.

>>161177765
If you meant the actual fight, then it was shit.

Almost every other hyped match included hand to hand combat while that shit was just two very capable fighters playing hot potato with dumbass spectators.

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>>161185688
>There's no other magical way to move the statue.
Mis typed that. He's using manipulation obviously, but the statue is only able to move as fast as he does.

>I won't bother posting the other one since you already posted the first one and you didn't even bother to read it yourself.
That page doesn't support your statement and you still haven't explained what one point in a category even does. Instead of stupidity use this platform to explain yourself.

>he would be a Kastro level idiot to train his 40% emission strong enough to handle it.
Good thing he has the magical ability to circumvent that limitation. He's still an idiot for using so many shortcuts but that's his current dillema anyways.

>f you agree that it's possible why do you find using conjuration smart when it's a pure waste of aura?
Who are you quoting?

>>161185739
>he doesn't do damage
His ability only works on things he actually wants to hurt, hence why he has to bludgeon the with his fists to seal those parts away.

> are obviously stored in his cage .
No, one is clutching his shoulder opposite the cage, the other two are free floating just like the cage.

>There is no believable reason to do it at all.
Either it's cheaper to keep the hands and cage summoned all the time as well as manipulating them on a constant basis, or there is a condition facilitating this. Your options are limited here for explainations.

>>161185897
>>Muh hand to hand combat

>>161185910
>That page doesn't support your statement
It quantifies Kurapika's poficiency in various Nen categories.

>and you still haven't explained what one centimeter even does.
That's how stupid you sound.

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>Two females brutally assaulted in one chapter
Tumblr is going to have a fucking field day with this one.

>>161185897
I'm sorry to see you have such a shit taste

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>>161185990
>goes there occasionally for art
>can't wait to see the buttmad posters

>>161186003
>for art
"art", sure.... you mean porn and we both know it

>>161185986
Just answer the question. What does one point in a nen ability mean? You can either manipulate something or not. You can either conjure something or not. What is your metric here you blithering retard.

>>161186013
Can't be straight porn that's sure.

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>>161186013
nooo, I just go there for my cute art that I post

>>161186050
>Just answer the question. What does one point in a nen ability mean?

Kurapika (native Conjurer), has 80 points of nen strength. Normally, his Enhancer armour is 60% of that 80, so only 48 base power.
With Emperor Time, he increases the efficiency to 100%, giving him 100% of 80, so 80 base power vs. Uvo's 100 base power Big Bang Impact. Therefore, we see that Kurapika still takes some damage from the power difference, but is in much better shape than Uvo expects him to be in (Uvo thought his arm would be blown away by 48 vs. 100, instead of 80 vs. 100).
So you can increase your nen strength points, but your efficiency with certain techniques will always be limited by your native nen type.

>>161185997
>Someone must have shit taste when their expectations were shafted
I guess a dialogue heavy fight where no one exchanges blows or technique in a fucking shonen manga is considered shit to your boring ass matches.

>>161186198
You're still explaining aura values which isn't the same as what you initially stated.

>putting 1 point in there automatically makes you able to control anyone.

What does putting 1 point mean? You can either use something or not, how well is governed by a completely separate system.

>>161186240
You are a braindead autist. I already explained that "putting points in" is an euphemism for training. I'm not going to repeat myself anymore. The more you train in some ability, the better you can use it. I don't know how someone can be so dense to not understand that if you do something a lot of times, you get better at it.

I can see why Togashi was postponing this arc for so long.

It's awful, complicated, long-winded, and an all-around pain in the ass.

>>161186383
If you want stupid action with no depth and intrigue, HxH probably isn't for you. This is the best arc after CA.

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>Momoze is kill
So weak willed princes will be first to get killed, just as expected.
I have high hopes for top princes and muh girl Woble.

>>161177662
Inb4 the cockroach was actually a Nen user in disguise, spying on the different princes, but the nen ability Kurapika dolphin'd still worked on him because he was in the form of a cockroach. It just so happened he was in the room Pika and co are in at the time.

>>161186408
Not even him by why do you autist get defensive whenever someone says something bad about this series? FFS 361 ranked fucking 9th this week and you fags swore up and down Togashi was genius for that dolphin shit way back and this arc was the buisness.

>>161186371
so in your opinion training just the basics of manipulation is enough to become a master? If not what else does "1 point in manipulation is enough" mean

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MOMOZE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I thoguht the message from the CA arc was that pursuing goals steeped in hatred and revenge is self destructive. But it seems Kurapika won't get a fall as hard as Gon did.

>>161186577
>o in your opinion training just the basics of manipulation is enough to become a master
No, that's your opinion. That's what you've been arguing for this entire thread.

I am the one who said that it takes incredible amount of training to be able to control people and an inhuman amount of training to control Royal Guards and above.

>>161186371
>I already explained that "putting points in" is an euphemism for training
You later tried to lump your retarded phrase in with the actual term if that's what you mean. Your euphemism doesn't work because there isn't a fixed interval of improvement for anything related to nen as it greatly depends on the person learning it. You basically have a binary "you can do it or not" system and then you have to improve what you learned what to do.

You liken this point system to centimeters but it fails completely.

>>161186604
Kurapika is literally confirmed to die. I don't know about you, but that is a much harder fall than getting to live albeit in a gimped state.

>>161186552

lol ranking isn't important.

SALES are.

and anyway, if you don't like hxh why are you even reading it?

>>161186623
>there isn't a fixed interval of improvement for anything
There isn't a fixed interval of improvement for anything, yes, training can take dozens of years (for people like Zushi in universe, or for you to learn how to use your brain properly) or it can take merely a few weeks/months (for people like Gon, Killua, or me).

>>161186614
>an inhuman amount of training to control Royal Guards and above.
No, it doesn't. Nen abilities don't work like that. They have conditions, and once those conditions are fulfilled, the ability will work. It doesn't matter who the target is.

>>161186638
Losing a decade off your life to use an OP state isn't exactly what i'm talking about.

>>161182638
Wait, so is Tserriednich learning Nen so fast because he has secretly had some of the Scarlet Eyes grafted onto his body somewhere?

>>161186623
>You basically have a binary "you can do it or not"
No. You are the only one dense enough to think Nen works like this. There is no "I instantly win or I lose" in Nen.

>>161186699
>No, it doesn't. Nen abilities don't work like that. They have conditions,
Conditions only exist to make your Nen stronger. Jesus Christ. You unironically think that a little kid like Zushi could kill anyone if he fulfills 5 arbitrary conditions.

If it was so simple then Kurapika would die the moment Uvogin touched him with his fist.

>>161186638

every character will die, autist.

why do you take that joke answer seriously.

>>161186671
So one point doesn't mean time interval, You can't describe it as a metric of progress since that is too abstract and entails too many factors.

Maybe you should just admit it's a bogus term

>for people like Gon, Killua, or me
wew. you're a funny guy anon.

>>161186720
Nah, he's just a genius in that regard.

>>161186732
>There is no "I instantly win or I lose" in Nen.
We're talking about learning nen abilties as a binary since that's what your original statement entailed. You're confusing me and some other poster.

>>161186664
>t-that isn't a direct indication that the recent wasn't poorly received future sales are
>putting words in my mouth

Momoze is really dead? That is disappointing. I was hoping she would have been more of a dark horse.

>>161186732
>Conditions only exist to make your Nen stronger.
Yes, and when does conditions are met, the ability activates. It doesn't matter who the target is.
>You unironically think that a little kid like Zushi could kill anyone if he fulfills 5 arbitrary conditions.
If he had enough talent to create an ability like that, then yes, he would be able to do that. That's how nen abilities work.
>If it was so simple then Kurapika would die the moment Uvogin touched him with his fist.
What? Uvo's ability is literally just enhancing his fist with some aura, there are no conditions to it.

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>>161186671
>it can take merely a few weeks/months (for people like Gon, Killua, or me)

>>161186773
>Nah, he's just a genius in that regard.
Maybe he's a "genius" exactly because he's had the eyes grafted onto his body

>>161186800
>expecting Togashi to develop characters
This manga is just about Hisoka memes now

>>161186854
This isn't Naruto.

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>Momoze is dead
Finally. Took you long enough to kill a Prince, Togashi. It's a shame though, I was starting to expect more of her. RIP

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>>161186854
Naruto physics don't work here senpai

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I want Pitou to eat me and nibble on my bones

>>161186892
>>161186892
>I was starting to expect more of her.


only idiots ever thought this.

she had no plan and no support. she was ready die.

I just realized Togashi decided to give everyone black suits because it's piss easy to draw. I miss when he put effort into the art like with Kurapika's tribal outfit

>>161186773
>We're talking about learning nen abilties as a binary since that's what your original statement entailed
You're the one confusing me then. I said from the beginning that there's nothing absolute in Nen, which is why you will never be able to manipulate someone like Meruem if you're a puny human like Shalnark or Blaise or Illumi.

I don't understand why you're so mad about Nen being quantifiable then.

>>161186811
>Yes, and when does conditions are met,
Then your Nen power is stronger. That's all. It's not an "instant win, doesn't matter who the target is". Let's say Zushi can somehow come up with 3 conditions that double his Manipulation power (which is probably like 5) if he fulfills them. After he fulfills all of them, he goes from a strength of 5 to a strength of 40. With that, he couldn't even control Uvogin, much less Meruem. If someone like Illumi had those same conditions (who has a base strength of let's say 100), then after fulfilling them he might be able to control Uvogin + Chrollo + 2 more members all at once. But that's still not enough for him to control Meruem.

>>161186874
>>161186902
Still doesn't exclude it from happening here in HxH, especially given the kind of person he is.

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>>161186914
But wouldn't it have been hilarious if she won against all odds?

>>161186869

>arc full of princes, zodiacs, beyond's group, spiders, kurapika's group, DC researchers, and 200,000 normies

the bloodbath is just getting started.

there's no time for development if you want the manga to actually end

>>161186819
Yes, I am literally Kurapika, how did you know.

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>>161186811
You are really overselling conditions, they are just a multiplier for your power. If your conditions work out to multiplying your nen by five, then you could get the same effect as those conditions by spending five times as much aura. Though no conditions and their result are ever actually explained in mathematical terms, what they do is clear from their introduction.

>>161186946
Ex-actly.

>>161186916

nope. bodyguards that protect royalty usually wear suits.

next time you try to think, don't.

>>161186914
This so much, Momoze was such a nothing character that I was incredulious people had the fucking gal to dub her best prince.

>>161186933
Not even a fraction as funny if fucking Thaition wins.

>>161186919
>I said from the beginning that there's nothing absolute in Nen, which is why you will never be able to manipulate someone like Meruem if you're a puny human like Shalnark or Blaise or Illumi.
In that case you are still wrong because the series states multiple times that for manipulation abilities, once the conditions are met the ability will activate guaranteed. The only thing stopping Shalnark or Illumi is the fact that they have to pierce a person and Mereum's defense is retardedly high. If they prick him they win. Baise has to get a sneak kiss in and if she does she has control over Mereum for 180 minutes. Under the rules of the series they are able to manipulate Mereum despite the gap in aura power.

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if theda is dead then that is sad, but at the same time it a benefit for kurapica.

disappointed in momoze but at the same time it one less prince we get to focus on.
4th price nen beast conditions might be base on truth and lies.

I hope Camila fair better

>>161187014
>In that case you are still wrong because the series states multiple times that for manipulation abilities

Ah so you are the retard who thinks that Nen abilities are absolute after all. Sorry, I mistook you for someone smart for a second.

>>161186614
sorry I am not the guy thats why I mistook you for the other guy

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>>161187007
>Momoze was such a nothing character that I was incredulious people had the fucking gal to dub her best prince
Probably the same people who liked Rei ll

>>161187042
Sorry it looks like you mistook me for the guy you mistakenly thought you mistook me for. That was a mistake.

S C A N S
W H E N

>>161187087
My scanner is on fire, sorry.

>>161187037
>Ah so you are the retard who thinks that Nen abilities are absolute after all
Nope.
>Sorry, I mistook you for someone smart for a second.
I mistook you for someone with basic reading comprehension. The story shows us that you can defend against punches, blasts, explosions, and all manner of damaging abilities. But if a manipulator tags you it's a wrap, all it takes is getting the conditions through. You're arguing against Togashi's own writing at this point.

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>>161187079

based on the spoilers, hanzo seems a little angry that he didn't prevent momoze's death.

biscuit tells him he was just doing his job.

>>161187181
I be angry too, no greater sin then letting a cutie die

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>>161187181
>Hanzo is an honorfag
I-I shouldn't I be worried for baldy r-right?

>>161187181
I'd be angry too, it hasn't even been half a day and Hanzo already failed.
Even if he had no choice but to obey the queen, it's still sucks.

damn, it really takes the bakadata guy a long time to translate hxh chapters.

>>161187037
An ability activates when its condition is met. Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

>>161187108
>The story shows us that you can defend against anything.
Fixed.

>>161187330
What do you expect? Hxh is filled with texts.

>>161187352
There is no ability that activates when conditions are met. The conditions only exist to make their power bigger so that it works.

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>>161187007
Don't underestimate Taithon's master plan.

even though kurapika doesn't have to worry about the lifespan issues, he seems to be troubled by the physical toll of emperor time.

this implies that the lifespan restriction onlhy applies when he's taken an ability, not just when he's using emperor time in general considering the fact that he's still in emperor time.

>>161187395
You can't defend against Hakoware anon. Quite lying.

Here's a breakdown

>Knuckles has to punch a target to activate it
>he punches a target
>Hakoware is now active

Worked on Youp just fine.

There are more abilities that "just work" by your definition.

If you didn't enjoy the chrollo vs hisoka fight or if you don't enjoy the current "intellectual" arc, what the fuck are you expecting from HxH and why did you like it in the first place?

HxH is as goat as could be.

>>161187417
>that fucking image
I want it to be so.

>>161187181
bisciuit is a cold woman outside of her fetish

she seems the type to never take risk or be caught up in emotions

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>>161187416
Stop speedreading.

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Let's pray for Theta, there's a good chance it's just cliffhanger bullshit and she's fine.

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>>161187463
My biggest gripe is that the subtlety HxH used to command is gone all of a sudden. The writing used to be incredible in past arcs with one or two lines or an expressive panel adding huge intrigue and depth to a character such as Hisoka saying "I've never been interested in broken toys" or Chrollo explaining how Indoor Fish works with a placid smile on his face, immediately transitioning into the Requiem scene but now it's just "HUMANS ARE SO INTERESTING HEH HEH" "HOW DISAPPOINTING NOW I HAVE TO REVEAL MY FULL POWER". What the fuck is this, Bleach?

Does anyone else think Togashi isn't drawing/writing this new arc? There are clearly several discrepancies compared to previous arcs in tone, storytelling, tactics and even art, and while it doesn't seem likely that Togashi would create such poor content without suddenly becoming retarded, there are other potential explanations. Maybe he's sick of people saying he's lazy so he's putting out shitty content to silence them? It's smart because I doubt those people are able to comprehend why these recent chapters are not good.

>>161187584
dumbest post I've ever read

>>161187584
No, that's Togashi's writing.

>>161187501

she had maternal instincts.

she's also experienced and probably used to a lot of death as a hunter.

>>161187584
The fact that hxh didn't end in the election arc (when it could have) implies that Togashi still wants to continue writing this manga. Why would he tell someone else to write it for him?

>>161187584
Youre idolizing early HxH. Literally the same writing.
Also you're an idiot.

>>161187599
>>161187621
>>161187645
>>161187649
It's pasta, well it's probably the same guy, but he's posted the exact same thing three other times, and only a bit different three other times.

>>161187649
Too bad it's not the same pacing otherwise we'll be half way through this arc already

It's up niggers http://www.bakadata.com/manga-spoiler/hunter-x-hunter-368-spoiler

>>161187181
Hanzo is a dead man walking.

http://www.bakadata.com/manga-spoiler/hunter-x-hunter-368-spoiler

hot off the presses

>Theta: (Unbelievable... It's only been half a day and he's already getting the hang of "Gyo")

This is the most ridiculous thing related to nen so far in thsi manga.

>>161187728
I like Oito's determination. She's evolving into a great character.

Also it's nice that they brought back the concept of Nen clones, haven't seen that since Kastro.

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>>161187867
nen genius togashi said while holding his laughter

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Bateman is going to win the succession war easily at this rate

>>161187890
>>161187890


also, it seems hanzo uses clones.

and of course the person to do the murder was benjamin's guard.

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>>161187867
>He's even a bigger genius than Gon and Killua
This annoys me more than it should.

I pray to god he gets destroyed by a random shitter because even if he's a super duper genius he has zero real experience unlike the shitter who's been at it for years and years or something like that.

>>161187939

he would still get destroyed by any decent nen user.

i wonder if togashi actually draws momoze getting choled out and not just oito's reaction

it's hard to tell from the spoilers

>>161187934
>the person to do the murder was benjamin's guard
Just how hard is Benjamin going to get rekt?

>>161187957
So far he would, but he's learning nen at chimera ant speeds, only the royal guards and the king learned nen faster. So he should end up around chimera ant levels of strength.

>>161187957
Just like the Chimera Ants, right?

>>161187957
There's a point where raw strength is so much that no amount of experience can beat it. Look at the Royal Guards and Meruem.

>>161187999
>There's a point where raw strength is so much that no amount of experience can beat it
Only post-nuke Meruem was at this point

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my nigga kurapika collapses.....he get choke to death next chapter aswell.


press F for respect

>>161188021
Meruem was already at that point before post-nuke otherwise Netero would've kicked his ass with his lifetime of experience.

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>>161187867
>>161187939
>>161187921
Fucking kek

>>161187985
well, only royal guards and king were owerpowered, cheetu was crushed by silva (and problems with him was depending on his speed, not his nen) leol was kiilled by morel, and problems with him was depending on stolen abilitties, not his nen as well, killua killed entire squadron, ending with ortho siblings, also crushed rammot's head, so they were tough and stronger than humans beacuse of their race, so after obtaining even basic nen, they were hard to beat, but with well proper nen it wasn't really hard to kill them. pitou and youpi was just really strong, and their bodies with addiction of nen was hard, and not able to crush with one enchament punch, (and youpi was granted with abnormal strenght and pitou with speed, what was making them even more strong), and pouf was just smart enough to not get killed himself too fast. and king of course was fucking overpowered, but every meal that queen ate have probably best genes leaved to the king

>>161188037
If kurapika were to die that stupidity I would shit myself laughing

>>161188118
you have to know, that this is not naruto and there aren't "OHHH MY NEN IS BETTER THAN YOURS HEH HEHE" someone who know nen for 70 years can be easily beaten by someone who know nen for 1 year, nen arent thing which make battle won

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>>161188073
>for the FIRST time
Netero is the strongest fighter, but I doubt he is the best killer between.

I can see Theta dying because Tse doesn't even need her anymore.

>>161188155
between all humans in hxh, fuck

>>161188155
>O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O
MY

it's going to hurt seeing the princes who are actually goo people die to maniacs

momoze seems to have just accepted her death

harkenburg and 420 are probably the only remaining good princes

fuu probably has some complex with her sister that will get one of them killed minimum

>>161188186
>DEAD

>>161187985


Yes, just like them speed reader.

theta didn't die

The 2 dumbest princes don't send they bodyguards to learn Nen.
Sasuga Camilla and Taithon.

>>161188214
>momoze seems to have just accepted her death
Momoze was literally talking shit about how hamster bro wasn't to be king and got BTFO, How the fuck was she a good person?

>>161178452
The sad thing is this image is probably close to the truth in Togashi's mind. Illumi has some weird brocon shit and lets not forget the mind-control.

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>>161188267
>T'was merely grape juice
Ok fuck-o