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We need more Vegeta x Gohan moments
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>>160546988
Reminder that Tenshitcuck is worst character and only lame losers like him
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Leave Frost to me.
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manga>>>>shit>>>>>anime
eat shit faggots
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>>160547215
It is because he literally writes the series and decides who is powerful and how much so.
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Who wrote episode 94 and 95? They should use him more often.
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Oh look, it's trash time
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Is gowasu,zamasu's fanatical racism against ningen scum and tournament of power frieza the only good things to come out of this show?
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>>160546988
Reminder that Zeno and Godhan will take over the universe together.
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>>160547272
>manga>>>anything

Hello Pablo how was your breakfast burrito?
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>using manga scans
Reminder that Toyofucko's manga is noncanon fanficition.
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>>160547272
Get fucked Toyocuck the manga is also shit written by a spic tier fan instead of a professional mangaka
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>>160547323
>people think this art is good

What the fuck
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WHY CAN'T 18 BE REAL AND M Y WIFE
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>>160547272
This. /our guy/ keeps saving super with each chapter.
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>>160547311
>>160547323

>toeishill this butthurt
keep holding your brain back paco
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>toeispics being delusional as usual
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>>160547323
still better then the anime who is being written by gt fags
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>>160547275

that's stupid. Just because one guy says its true means he can just discount all logic and reason and go against in-universe evidence?

In my opinion:
Head Canon > Evidence from Source Material > word of toriyama > manga > random anime writer > dragonball wiki > youtube comments > reddit shitpost > 4chan shitposts
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>>160547304
all mistranslations because some weeb wants to push his fanfic

he never says anything remotely like this
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>>160547307
That and a million smug Goku Black faces. OST is also good.
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>>160547323
>>160547358
>An EXACT minute apart
>After several days of Toeishills being absent in these threads
I don't like to say samefag usually, but at the very least you have shit taste.
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>>160547323
>>160547358
People are displeased with the anime so they pretend the manga is good.


>>160547398
>>160547399
Settle down Pedro no need to be upset.
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>EP 110: The resolution of Tenshinhan
>After being saved from a ring out, Tenshinhan takes some steps back from the battle in order to meditate about his life, his past and destiny. Watching everyone fighting with his third eye he starts learning, evolving

>EP 111: The true power of the third eye
>Kamehameha! Timeskip! Destructo disc! Dimension rift! unbreakable shield! Tenshinhan just learned all this techniques and more! Will it be enough to defeat Jiren?
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>>160547070
>T. Krillin
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>>160547431
Please tell me I just edited this in MSPaint. I want to taste those tears of denial.
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Does Japan hate Vegeta or something? I can't think of why else the new writers keep writing Vegeta as a jobber.
Yes it's consistent with Z but they don't seem to give a shit about consistency in the least in regards to everything else.
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>>160547272
This

I also love these dorks eating together
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REMINDER TORYIAMA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH 17=GOHAN

>personal view
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Why do DB threads make so much OC meme?
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>>160547480
toriyama hates vegeta and keeps making him the butt of the joke
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>>160547070
Its ok Krillin if you lost, you dont have to be a sore loser. As Beerus said, you can still cheer up for the strongest warriors of the universe, now that the real tournament began
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>>160547400
But Tacotaro is also a GT fag
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>>160547485
Jesus that art is bad
Why didn't tori choose a better artist for DB?
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even the nips had enough of toei writers that the harassed the dude sadly every tweet got deleted but we still got toeifags sucking up to it
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>>160547536
>Nips are literal subhumans
>screeching about a children's show
>toyocucks are too

Toyocucks confirmed subhuman?
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>>160547451
shut up the only time he was relevant was in dragonball
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>>160547536
>majority of fans are very wondeful
>his tweets are mostly filled with western cucks
hmm really makes you think
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>>160547398
APPARENTLY SOMETHING CONVENIENT HAPPENED BECAUSE COMPLEX EMOTIONS
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>>160547451
>EP 112: Yes, it was
>After defeating Jiren and Zenosama, Tenshinhan becomes the righteous ruler of the universe
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>>160547473
>Please tell me I just edited this in MSPaint.
It'd be easier to just inspect and remove the (You) and take a screenshot IMO. My main point was it being exactly a minute apart making it highly suspect you could've had a reply for yourself ready, and were simply waiting for the minute-long timer to count down. I'll admit I'm possibly wrong, however. My main point is you have shit taste anyways.
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>>160547304
Freeza wants to be raped by two zenos at same time.
You can fuse all god of destruction and won't defeat a angel.
If you fuse all angels with daishikan you won't defeat a zeno's guard.
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>>160547518
>>160547480

toriyama probably didn't include anything for vegeta to do in his story notes so they're scrambling to give him screen time by making him job
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>>160547580
because nips are tired of this shit writing that makes gt look good
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>>160547610
>unprecedented autism from a toyocuck
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>>160547431
>People troll on 4chan
Oh no. Shock horror.
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>Ep 114: The Tournament's conclusion! One true credible god?! Geekdom descends!
>Ep 115: Geekdom defeated? VERY strange! Bizarre!
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>>160547536
why are japanese so autistic?
yes we complain but we don't go harass the creators thats just retarded
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Reminder
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>>160547323
>>160547358
>>160547473
>>160547639
We all know who the real autist is here.
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>>160547485
I love the interactions in the manga
Future Mai talking to Pilaf and Shu was cute
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>>160546988

daily reminder that this should have been the team
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KEKEKEH, QUITELA GONNA WIN!
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They said there would be more interesting characters when the tournament of power finally begins.

They SAID CHARACTERS that WEREN'T SAIYANS would FINALLY be RELEVANT AND WE'D GET NEW SPECIES WITH THEIR OWN TRANSFORMATIONS AND FIGHTING TECHNIQUES

THEY SAID THERE WOULD BE BACKSTORIES FOR EACH OF THE UNIVERSES INVOLVED

THEY SAID THERE WOULD BE UNIVERSES WITH FIGHTERS WHO WERE HONORABLE WHO WEREN'T ONE DIMENSIONAL COCKY VILLAINS, ESPECIALLY THE PRIDE TROOPERS THAT WERE STRONG AND RELEVANT AND WOULD GIVE US GOOD FIGHTS, AND NEW CHARACTERS WE COULD CARE ABOUT

THEY SAID THE ANIMATION WOULDN'T BE THAT BAD, THAT SHUEISHA WAS GOING TO SAVE DRAGON BALL SUPER

THEY SAID THAT UNIVERSE 11, 2, 10 AND 3 HAD MORE POWERFUL INHABITANTS THAN 6 AND 7

THEY SAID A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT DRAGON BALL SUPER GETTING BETTER

WHERE ARE WE NOW???

WHERE AAARE WEEE NOOOOOW????

HAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHA

AaaaaaaaH

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAUUUUUURGH

https://youtu.be/4wTcguJZh3A
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>>160547431
>>160547687
>he edited the post to make it look like a samefag and samefagged himself
>he will deny it with another edited image

Toyocucks are literally dangerously autistic.
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>>160547723
>Goten Rose
What?
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>>160547535
Tacotaro is a meme because he drew DB Heroes, that's just it
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>>160547703
Toeipablos btfo once again, good work toyobro
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>>160547703
lrn2crop newfriend
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>>160547723
>goten black
>arale
>kid trunks
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>>160547717
This. Toyocucks need to go.

>>160547431
>>160547687
Weapons-grade autism.
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>>160547698
No, you're just a faggot that likes to get his asshole rekt
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>>160547703
10/10
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>>160547703

I don't understand how anyone can "read" a manga. First of all you're hardly reading anything, it's just a giant picture book. Second of all, if you're already just looking at pictures you might as well watch them animated and in colors.

Seems really boring to basically watch a television show frame by frame with subtitles
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>>160547703
>>160547757
The toeichads one is better and funnier
toyo one is low energy and lazy
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>>160547757
>getting this mad about samefagging
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Will they job to the women too?
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>>160547703
>where our rationales divurge
>divurge

Toyocucks literally can't spell the word "diverge"
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>>160547415
Bait.
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>>160547703
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HOW WILL TOEIDOGS EVER RECOVER
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>make everyone SSB level so Krillin and co. can be relevant again, triggering powerlevelfags
>make Goku and Vegeta constantly hold back and job, doing nothing so the others could do something, triggering Gokufags and pretty much everyone
>make the B-listers do nothing and job anyway, triggering 'muh DB' fags
>instead focus almost completely on characters with strong Dokkan cards (the Androids) and marketable new sues (Cauli and Kale) so you could sell more Dokkan cards
what a shitshow
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>>160547703
>toyopedros are old manchildren who wear fedoras and only ever discuss Dragon Ball because they have no other interests in life
>toieichads are young lads full of energy who have active life outside of children franchise
Seems very accurate.
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>>160547823
GET A LOAD OF THIS GUY
Justifying online abuse because my powerlevels dont match anymore on my favourite kids show
kill yourself you pathetic toyocuck
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>>160547720
I loved it too. She was so happy to see them again, it was cute. It was really disappointing that the anime didn't have any of that
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>>160547871
>he's so upset he's editing everything

Toyocuck truly gotten to.

>>160547703
>>160547881
lmao btfo
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>>160547768
probaly made by someone that still believes that black was adult goten.
instead of it being zamasu in goku's body (like it was revealed)

also arale woudn't take the tournament serious and would probaly end up walking off the edge.
and trunks using a sword? when weapons are not allowed.
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>>160547885
Toyocucks confirmed underage redditors
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>>160547880
Probably not, but that other guy left might do
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>>160547703
Toyochads win, nothing new. Can't wait for Toyo's tournament of power.
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>>160547884
OH SORRY?! CAN YOU SPEAK JAPANESE AND ENGLISH FLUENTLY?! NO DIDN'T THINK SO! CRAWL BACK UNDER YOUR ROCK YOU VERMIN!
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>>160547720
>Future Mai talking to Pilaf and Shu was cute
Post the page please
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>>160547965
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>>160546988
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>>160547703
Saved
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>>160547880
>they give that fucking one-eyed general guy so much fucking screentime
>he gets eliminated in his first fucking fight episode

this is some garbage writing
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i like that goku and caulifa grew a bond of respect.

i can see them teaming up to take on some of the stronger opponents
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>>160547703
>all this samefagging

I feel literal pity for this man.
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>>160546277
>>160546229
>>160546195
>>160546166
>>160546124
>>160546083
>>160546061
>>160546022
>>160545933
>>160545859
>>160545230
pure, baseless headcanon
how about you presenting some proof?
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>>160547978
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRQcDJBsGYM
The average American DBZ fan.
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>>160548017
also for a team thats all about justice and doing good
they had no problem ganging up on (what they thought) weaker opponents.
so much for their morale high ground.
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>>160547880
Yes.
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>>160547703
>toeishills assblasted again

This is a toyochad thread now
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>>160547425
Overrated as fuck my boi. The OST is either overplayed constantly or the shit is boring, but it fits the underwhelming atmosphere nicely.
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Best girl coming through!
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>>160548117
Keep your delusion to yourself Toyocuck
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>>160548098
..so female vegeta didn't fight in the android saga? recovering from preggo must have been very fast if so.
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>>160547396
>>160547253
Remember 18 is the best girl and your dark horse for U7.
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>>160548159
Trunks was like 6 months old when the androids showed up
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>>160547703
toeishills on suicide watch haha
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>>160547703
toeicucks cant stop losing
SAD
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>>160547703
Toeipablos also want to rape your mom to prove a point
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>>160548082
The average American DBZ fan is black or hispanic
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So when are Tarble and Gure coming back?
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>>160547535
He's pretty much the best professional manga artist at mimicking Toriyama's later Z art style.

Some people prefer Dragon Garow Lee, but his style is closer to early Z and he wasn't working for Shueisha when the Super manga came up. He also seems rather slow considering the Yamcha manga.

The talent poll for something like this just isn't that big. Heck, just look at how bad the new Heroes manga, drawn by Yoshitaka Nagayama looks to see how they actually have a rather limited poll of artists willing to work in stuff like this rather than their own series.

Or the previous manga like Episode of Bardock and Son Goku Returns by Naho Oishi. The art here wasn't bad, but it was often off and action scenes just had very weak flow.
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>>160548068
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Chadcha
>Handsome
>Good height
>Awesome hair
>Professional athlete
>banged Bulma in her prime

Cuckgeta
>ugly
>manlet
>oercompensating hair
>jobless
>always grumpy
>married Yamcha's sloppy seconds
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>>160548222
non canon
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Toyocucks when will you learn? Your hero still hasn't graduated from fanfiction.
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Imagine.

Just imagine the despair and horror of the Jobbing Universes. The terror as they watch 6,7, and 11 battle it out with their warriors rivaling Gods, and they can do nothing. Their strongest jobbers, I mean warriors getting offscreened and tortured by Frieza, one shot by fucking Cabba, all the while those fucking Saiyan retards are going full "Waku waku! you will become stronger so ill let you go so we can fight again our universes are totally not on the line."

Then Universe 11 loses half their fucking team to those battle fetishists, and you know that your remaining warriors are totally fucked.

Imagine as your bleachers fill up and you KNOW you and everyone you love are about to fucking die and that orange karate nigger is fooling around like he's at Disney Land.

>Jiren's face when he loses to Goku's asspull and his universe gets erased
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>>160548159
i can see a pregnant femvegeta in space giving birth.
makes a quick stop on earth dumps the baby on malebulma and leaves again to train.
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>>160547703
Add "let me rape your mom" in the toeishill one
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>>160547946
It being future Goten would have actually been tits.
What we got was fucking awful.
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>>160548256
>Jobgeta
>jobless
????
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>>160548082
>tyrone

Oh god, the meme is real
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>>160548264
>toeicucks wanting to talk about fanfic
the whole super anime is fanfic Pedro
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>>160548282
>3 years to train
>get knocked up in the middle of it
>6 months left or so to train

crazy vegeta.
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>>160548262
i thought yo son goku and friends was considered canon by toriyama

>>160548256
bulma didn't dump yamcha for nothing
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>>160548297
let me rape your mom then
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Reminder that GohanKEKs have been eternally BTFO by based Toriyama after harassing a poor writer on twitter and sending death threats because he spoke his mind.
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>>160548380
it is canon. it was even referenced in battle of gods when they needed 6 saiyans (but vegeta didn't know where tarble is)
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>>160548401
not even true see>>160547486
>personal view
he just saying toryiama so that the nips dont go on him again
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Lmao, when the Pride Troopers were introduced everyone made a big deal about it, and then it turns out half of them were worthless and Toppo and Jiren carry the entire fucking team.

Universe 11 is just like 7, nothing but a bunch of dorks and 2 really strong guys carrying them all.
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>>160548224
>Heck, just look at how bad the new Heroes manga, drawn by Yoshitaka Nagayama looks

This

The SDBH manga is shit, they look like code lyoko characters with those foreheads
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>>160548380
bulma is awesome in super.
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>>160548222
Never. The very idea of Saiyajins like Goku being on other worlds has been thrown out.

But don't worry. We have an entire universe of completely loathed and logistically retarded "saiyajins".

By the way they're all twig people and the men are all limp dicked cucks and the women gay and dykey as fuck!!
ENJOY!!
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Best Kaioshin coming through
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>>160548401
BUT HE WILL GET SS WHITE RIGHT!?
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>>160548264
>made his idea canon

/our guy/ is living the dream
Based Toyo
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>>160548432
Nice try Gohanfag. Toriyama already established 17 as a powerhouse and the writers simply stopped him at Jobhan level, when he is truly much stronger. You should be thanking the writers for that kindness rather than bullying them.
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Anyone got some good memes from the Black Goku arc? I heard these threads had some great ones, but I missed them
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>>160548477
He'll get SSJ(Super Saiyan JUST)
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>>160548510
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>>160548348
>friendship sword

Still mad about that cancer
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>>160548509
>paco believes this
we will se if 17 is really that strong in the manga then if he is around gohan level their too then its confirmed if not then its all headcanon from chong that lies so that he doesn't another backlash from nips for his shit writing
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>>160548477
>SSJ White
>He doesn't know
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>>160548562
Straight out of Fairy Tail.
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>>160548562
>he's never made a sword out of pure friendship
lmao do you even shonen fuccboi? Me and my friends make at least three friendship swords a day.
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Praise her, adore her.
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>>160548510
ZAMASU, NINGEN and Leave X to me were the best memes from it.
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>>160548563
>buttblasted GohanPedro can't even write proper english
You days are numbered you dumb spic. Gohan isn't even a character in the manga.
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>>160548264
I would have chalked this up to just generic fighting poses and composition than plagiarism but
>that last panel
Even the dialogue is identical what the fuck
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How many times has Bulma fucked Beerus?
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>>160548594
nah fairy tail wouldn't have have added another asspull transformation on top of it
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>>160548359
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>>160548636
>implying
I am not even a gohanfag but truly believing shit like 17=gohan is what lead to 17+17=ssj4
ENJOY the gt 2.0 Eduardo
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>>160548671
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>>160548131
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>>160548710
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>>160548585
Still waiting for Baby Vegetto Black

Come on bandai
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>>160548510
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>>160547304
Reminder.
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>>160548704
>Gohanfags are this upset
Kek, nice try Jose. you're the one taking power levels seriously. I have better things to do than care about who's stronger in a children's cartoon. If the writers say 17=Gohan, then that's the truth. Now get back to mowing my lawn, break time's over.
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>>160548222
>Goku and Vegeta now both have brothers Toriyama has completely forgotten about

it's like pottery
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>>160548750
Reminder toshio said Hit is gonna EVOLVE
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Best villain coming through.
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I wouldn't mind more fillers with the GoDs and angels. They're just sort of there besides whis,champa and beerus.
The episodes focused on the z warriors except for Gohan's and Frieza's were all shit this arc.
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>>160548825
who?
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>>160548781
>i dont care about inconsistency and enjoy incoherent trash
Just your classic illiterate Fernando.
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>>160548781
17 gained power from what?
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How strong was Majin Buu after training?
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>>160548853
>He take children's cartoons seriously
I wouldn't expect any more from a subhuman spic like yourself Manuel
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Now that we know ssj4 is stronger than ssb. how would syn shenron compare against Hit who keeps EVOLVING?
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>>160548831
pls make it happen
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>>160548890
> not taking dragon ball seriously
That's why you will never be accepted by the glorious nippon people Marquez
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>>160548892
acording to who is the non-canon ssj4 stronger then super saiyan blue?
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>>160547486
If Toriyama had his way Gohan would be sitting at home not even aware a tournament is going on.
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>>160548947
>He's a disgusting jap loving weeb on top of a spic
The day of the rope can't come soon enough Jorge.
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>>160548782
>Raditz is considered a weak embarrassment
>Tarble is considered a weak embarrassment
T O R I Y A M A
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M
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>>160548892
Omega shenron would trash everyone besides zeno
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>>160548892
syn shenron would fuck hit
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>>160548844
Pic related.
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>>160547698
Kanzenshuu does this shit too. A couple of the users constantly badger him with power scaling questions because they want their headcanons validated
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>>160548438
>>160548265

>they showed this guy being a powerful asset to his team
>they showed him being humble enough to be late to important meetings in order to save a pet from harm
>they showed him consider the ramifications of leaving his universe unprotected to participate in the tournament

>they had him and most of his team get beaten in an inelegant manner by the stoic androids in just a couple of minutes

Is the writing team a bunch of sociopaths?
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If Sword of Hope = Friendship Sword

Then Spirit Bomb = Friendship Ball?
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>>160548082
>Gokufags in a nutshell
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>>160548952
some toei writer that the nips keep hating
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I really don't want to hate on Super, I started with the movies and watched until Black. But this show is just bad.

I do recognize that Toriyama is a shounen grand master but Oda and Kishimoto have surpassed him.
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>>160549029
Kahseral did nothing wrong
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reminder that the manga is shit and full of plotholes, why can't zamasu use hakai too? he's also a god so he should able to use it. even zamasu can't, black is using goku body so he should able to use hakai you know like goku
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>>160549045
>Spirit Bomb = Friendship Ball?
Nope.
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>>160549024
the only fucker i see sometimes is seth the programmer.
4 threads in a row he has been asking who is stronger kale or broly but always gets ignored hahaha
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Pan is cute.
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>>160548988
yes Ramires i too cant wait until you hang yourself and leave this world for good
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>>160547723
M-E-T-A
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>>160548359
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>>160549114
Considering Broly got BTFO by couple basic Super Saiyans 20 years ago I would think the answer is obvious. Or am I just not well versed enough in the multi-dimensional holding back games that Gokufags have developed?
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>>160548563
17 is the bait and switch. 18 is going to wind up being the MVP.
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>>160549158
I accept your concession Juan
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>>160549183
Your art is shit.
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>>160549029
>they showed Kahseral being nice to kids and being late to a meeting to save an animal and considering the ramifications of leaving his universe unprotected
>in the ToP he laughs like a villain, acts like an asshole and uses underhanded tactics, just another generic unscrupulous antagonist for the good guys to btfo with the festive lesbian kamehameha
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>>160548892
>ssj4 is stronger than ssb
OK FAGGOTS LET ME SAY IT ONE MORE TIME :
SSB>SSG >BUU SAGA VEGITO = SS4
>INB4 NICE HEADCANON EVEN THO IT'S BEEN STATED IN VARIOUS OFFICIAL SOURCES
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>>160549029
The only way to salvage the Pride Troopers is if we get some insight on how guys like Jiren and Toppo feel about participating in this tournament or the Zenos. But that's already starting to go to waste since we barely got a reaction out of them when U9 was eliminated.
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>>160548457
>Implying Cauli and Kale fighting together wasn't fucking fun
Newsflash Anon, fun things are fun. Get the stick out of your ass and enjoy some cool fights.
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>>160549225
>nice headcanon see official writer confirming that ss4>ssb >>160549071
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>>160548438
Well U7 has a bunch of ringers. The only underpowered fighters was Krillin, Tien, and Roshi. Piccolo was strong enough to go toe to toe with Frost in the U6 tournament.
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>>160549225
how the fuck is SSJ4 equal to Buu saga Vegito when base Goku from earlier arcs was Buu level
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>>160548401
Wow Gohanpedos were that assblasted they sent death threats? Fucking beaners and chongs I swear.
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>>160549277
>In the games
>same games where bardock has better stats than SS4
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Gohanfag confirmed for job oh and piccolo too
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>>160549311
Nobody really knows how strong Vegito is. Even fucking around he was completely clowning Buu.
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>>160549277
he said ss4 was stronger in game not in the anime
>>160549311
because vegito is too strong
also what is perfect files
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>>160547536
The manga comes out after the anime. Usually it's reversed. The allure of the anime is extended scenes, music, sound, voices, color. In order to give the manga allure they make it different than the anime. I would rather it be different than the same.
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>>160549357
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>>160548265
This makes me laugh heartily.

>Orange karate nigger
Is there a worse way to go then to be erased by fucking Goku?
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>>160549183
>Implying princess Vegeta wouldn't badger Thong into making an artificial saiyajin womb to grow Bra in while she goes out training.

You had one job.
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>>160549311
see pic related
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>>160548256
>Chadcha

He is literally so pathetic that he doesn't get invited to the ToP and is the butt of everyone's jokes. When you get fucked with more than Krillin you know you are on the bottom of the totem pole.
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>>160549384
>because there is ss4 in super?`
he gauged there powers according to the games because its the only medium where both of them are in simultaniously
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>>160549045
Android 8 confirmed as Future Trunks' friend
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>>160549209
not my art. just found it.
there is more but most of it nsfw
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>>160549357
>its difficult to lead this member
he means its hard to lead this team ( vegeta, goku,frieza,17)
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>>160549426
>lying this bad
ssj4 wasn't even a thing yet when vegito came out
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>>160549460
being yamcha is suffering
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>>160549461
in dokkan ss4 goku is stronger than whis
>>160549516
this is from a GT magazine
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>>160549254
That wasn't fighting together.
That was the writers having the lame asses do a poor imitation of every single story beat between goku and gohan so they can try to engraciate them to the audience.
It wasn't even a fight. It was just those two using a bullshit girlfriend and girlfriend kamehawave to beat the superheroes/galactic police of another universe who were forced to do a heel turn to make them seem like heroines...
And it failed, now everyone is hated a bit more.

They should have just made cali into kales mother and did the whole parallels between goku and gohan thing right.
Would have gotten all of the feminist/non-existant female audiences money and admiration and even had the males in the audience jizzing.
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who is the better writer?
toshio or toyotaro?
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>>160549469
How much of a newfag do you have to be to not realize that guy's shit gets posted every fucking thread.
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>>160549544
And in Xenoverse 2 Super Vegito has superior stats to Vegito Blue.

What the actual fuck?
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>>160549544
>dokkan ss4 goku is stronger than whis
thats why ... toshio uses dokkan a lot to see which characters are fan favorites
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>>160548563
except toriyama stated it already long time ago

it's from an interview with DBS producer Hiroyuki Sakurada

Full translation at http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1289806#p1289806

>As a fan, I'm looking forward to Goku and #17's first battle.
#17 didn't have many fights in the original story nor in the anime up until now. Apparently, Akira Toriyama didn't have the opportunity to display his strength but he is also giving his approval, saying #17 has great potential.

>Akira Toriyama didn't have the opportunity to display his strength but he is also giving his approval, saying #17 has great potential.

stay mad gohancuck
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>>160549558
Toyo isn't being harassed about his writing on twitter.
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> SS4 is stronger than SSB in a video game

Why does this even matter?

Android 18 has ki absorption in Xenoverse 2. Does that mean it matters?
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>>160549574
That's irrelevant to the art not being his.
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>>160549290
And frost was weak as fuck. Whats your point?

That being said trained Buu could have mopped the floor with half of the participants.
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>>160548881
Training you dumb ass. It's not fucking complicated.
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>>160549574
oh i'm sorry for not wasting my life 24/7 being on 4chan like you are.
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>>160549597
one of the reason as to why there is a lot of 17/18 moments compared to other powerhouses like frieza/gohan/piccolo
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>>160549613
That's the only answer the writer could give. Super and GT are two different continuities. It's the same as asking him "would Goku beat Superman?"
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Toshio obviously doesn't care about powerlevels, why are asking the wrong guy
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>>160548988
WALL WHEN? ALL TACOS MUST GO BACK.
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>>160549612
because nobody even know who toyo is
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>>160549534
>hitting on bulma in front of cuckgeta
>cuckgeta too beta to interfere
CHADCHA
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>ITT people thinking dokkan battle stats = in-universe power
i guess ss3 gotenks is stronger than champa
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>>160549669
That's explains his follower count
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>>160549613
>mfw to balance out her older brother having an impenetrable barrier as a unique skill #18 will get an energy absorption technique she made off-screen to give her a more distinct move-set
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>>160549578
lol for real?
man they keep fucking up with that game
i haven't played in months
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>>160549612
Toyotaro doesn't seem that active on his twitter. He posts drawings every now and then.
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>>160549413
>thong

kek.
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Is there any porn of tracksuit 18 yet?[/spoiler[
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>>160549091
The show is fun for me. The fights are enjoyable and the SoL is comfy. I don't really get the hate. I hate personality inconsistencies more than power level fluctuations.
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>>160549687
And Mai is stronger than Beerus.
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>>160549698
>Toyotaro doesn't seem that active on his twitter
i wonder why
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>>160549727
agreed writing teams either dont communicate or are sandbagging each other passive aggressively.
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>>160549413
like in db minus?
although that was after the birth
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>>160549698
toyotaro posts regularly though but nobody understands japanese but since the nips have never attacked him for anything i guess there isnt much to say
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>>160549748
>Keeps away from the fandom except at cons
The man is wiser than us all. Could you imagine if Toriyama was more of a public figure? Some Gohanfag would have shot him by now.
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>>160549728
of course.
she has a shotgun
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>>160549607
Only reason Cell exists is because Tori's editor didn't like the androids. I guess Toriyama is now making up for not getting to feature them as main antagonists.
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>>160549788
>Lucy, I'm hoooome!
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>>160549357

Piccolo has a high chance in going down
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When will Goku and co actually have a decent victory in a major story arc in Super?

>loses against Beerus
>needed time rewind asspull to prevent Freeza from blowing up Earth
>couldn't overpower Hit and had to depend on his good graces
>resorted to having Zen-oh intervene against Zamasu

It probably isn't a stretch that a stupid plot twist is also in store for them in the Tournament of Power resulting in another pity win.
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>>160549798
>Some Gohanfag would have shot him by now
it's sad that this sounds plausible
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>>160549534

wait, was this joke actually in the series? Is bulma and chichi husband swapping actually canon?
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>>160547396
Soon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_brnKz_2tI
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There is the possibility that goku convinces zeno to bring back the other universes so they can keep having martial arts tournaments
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>>160549844
shh This show is a goku wankfest i hate how he always wins
This shit is worse than GT
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>>160546988

Afraid of getting erased? According to the media there's an increase in Zenophobia!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBiwLibZqfw
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>toeipedros literally trying to bribe toshio for spoilers
SAD
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>>160549546
>Kale hates herself for being weak
>Cauli loves her and protects her
>They defeat the pride troopers by digging deep
The troopers didn't do a heel turn, they are just fighting for their universe. I didn't think Kale screaming "I hate who I am" was forced or cringy. If you never watched Dragon Ball while imitating a Kamehameha because you wanted to be strong, idk what the fuck you get out of this show.

We all hate who we are. Deep down, we all hate our only connection with other people is shitposting online. Our only joy is this dumb ass show. And for one half an hour we can pretend to be strong.

Kale is us.
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reposting this

You dont hype up god ki and angel training for dozens of episodes just to toss all that in the garbage and treat it like any other mortal powerup. They should have backstories for everyone who can actually fuck with god ki showing that they also have god ki. How about instead of the retarded shit we got for freeza, instead he learned how ti use god ki and thats how he catches up to goku? Why not explain that Hit is using God Ki to do this crazy time stuff? Why not mention that the pride troopers/furries/fat fusion chick were trained to use god ki? why not just just give more people god ki instead of just making god ki pointless? dumb writing.
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>>160549931
>toeifags are spics
nothing new
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>>160549931
holy shit you cant make this shit up HAHAHAHAHA
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>>160549854
>I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE STRONGEST TORYIAMA
>NOT GOHAN'S DAD
>ME
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>>160548510
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>>160549934
(You)
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>>160549877
No, at least not in the original ep in japanese
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>>160549931
yo so super saiyajin
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>>160549886
What if the Grand Priest can rewind time by an hour and undoes the tournament but the survivors still remember it?
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>>160548510
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>>160549877
dub only

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydJ84oA1ylE
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>>160549931
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>>160549944

because none of that shit is important. Who cares if they're using God ki or are just naturally strong, you're autistic if you're actually trying to keep track of power levels at this point anyway.

Keep your shitty headcanon to yourself and just let the anime be what it is, power inconsistencies be dambed
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>>160549931
toeitacos
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>>160549961
>>160549963
>>160549931
Jesus Christ memes are real...

THEY GOTTA GO BACK.
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>>160548262
He was mentioned in Battle of Gods
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>>160549931
Okay, that's funny as fuck.
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Will Frieza resurrect himself with the dragon balls ?
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>>160548256
>not yamchad
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>>160549931
saved
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>>160548510
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>>160548644
>Even the dialogue is identical what the fuck
To be fair, the Black arc was pretty much ripped from Toyotaro's AF regardless. Xicor and Black are parallel enough that he might as well re-use his own dialogue from Black's prototype.
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Did they ever meet?
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>>160549931
Fucking Toeidiablos
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>>160550202
i doubt it
zamasu was still in training.
not worthy enough yet to meet her
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LEAVE JIREN TO ME
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Left or right?
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>>160548644
>just generic fighting poses and composition than plagiarism
To be fair, both are by Toyotaro, and the AF chapter posted there technically was never published.
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>>160549877
It's a dub invention
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>>160550043
Power levels ARE basic consistency for an anime that is largely based around fights, and getting stronger to participate in bigger fights, with everyone more or less sharing the same basic set of abilities.

By putting everyone on the level of gods with no explanation, half of the story becomes irrelevant. God ki doesn't matter, SSB doesn't matter, Goku training with Whis doesn't matter.

If they didn't have Goku progress since the end of Z while everyone trained, or made power levels regress to DB level for some reason, well, whatever. But then they dedicate half the show to Goku acquiring and mastering a new level of power, then just forget about its implications and throw everything out of the window because of what feels the most fun at the moment. It's bad writing.
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>>160549931
>he mentioned tacos he must be mexican
god this board is gonna be /pol/ every second now
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>>160550279
>reading comprehension
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>>160550228
>Leave slaughtering innocent civilians just for show to me
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>>160549029
The writer who wrote the newest episode only started writing for Super last month. I don't get why they didn't get the same writer that handled his previous appearance for this episode.

He'd have to be eliminated here anyway, but it could have been handled much better.
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>>160550284
it's a meme you dip
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>>160550279
> a fight AS incredible

Learn reading comprehension retard
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>>160550232
Right because it isn't asspull. Not matter how many times you post this.

Reminder

http://allthetropes.wikia.com/wiki/Foreshadowing
>A clue or allusion embedded in the narrative that predicts some later event or revelation. It could be something a character says or does, an event that doesn't make sense until much later, a Meaningful Name, or really anything at all. The foreshadowing may be ominous, or seem perfectly innocent at the time.

>A good enough foreshadowing doesn't spoil the surprise, yet seems an obvious clue in retrospect. Genuinely bad foreshadowing either deflates the suspense or is too obfuscated (such as an Ice Cream Koan) to predict anything. It's also equally problematic if used excessively. Foreshadowing may establish something to avoid an Ass Pull. Or it may put a viewer off as introducing a needless supernatural element to the story.

Again
>A good enough foreshadowing doesn't spoil the surprise, yet seems an obvious clue in retrospect.

>In literature, foreshadowing is commonly done when a possibility is mentioned, but almost immediately dismissed or disproved. To some readers, they will dismiss the suggested possibility just as the unsuspecting characters do. More experienced readers will immediately call the author's bluff and know what to expect.
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>>160550284
its ok paco you will get your leaks next time
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>>160549029
He said he despised using such tactics but they were desperate
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>>160550232
>Left or right?
Right was alluded to 10 chapters beforehand, and doesn't make Super Saiyan Blue pointless.
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>>160550232
Gotten love how the anime artwork is so shitty that when making this, anon has to use Dokkan art instead.
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I enjoy Super, the power scaling is inconsistent and the art can be pretty wonky at times. Its lows are pretty low, but its highs can be pretty damn high. In all honestly I have fun watching the series and shitposting with you guys, it's just pure mindless fun and it's enjoyable.
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>>160550427
nice blog faggot
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>>160550451
who hurt you anon
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>>160550232
Right isn't an asspull!

DELETE THIS
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>>160550202
so cute
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>>160550451
thanks :)
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>>160550427
There has been no highs in Super you deluded fanboy. The only thing that came close was Jiren vs Hit, but they fucked it up.
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>>160550481
>tfw when cus will never be your attendant
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>>160550499
whiny fuckboy kill yourself
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>>160550232
Left

Spirit Bomb + Sword combo will always be better than Goku pulling an overpowered move out of his asshole
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>>160550544
enjoy eating shit.
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>>160550232
Left.

The Spirit Sword is plausible if you consider Trunks may have been taught the Spirit Bomb while training in Otherworld under Supreme Kai, it actually DID something to defeat Zamasu, let Trunks be the one to deliver the true final blow, but more than anything it looks really fucking cool

Hakai theoretically makes more sense and is easier to buy out of the blue, but having anyone but Beerus able to do it takes away from the grandeur that is a God of Destruction, if just any God-level entity can perform the same technique then being a GoD seems pretty pointless.
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>>160550533
>tfw when
>that feel when when
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>>160550516
Is there any chance F will play in the tournament?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-33SkD_tnw
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>>160550499
>no highs in Super you deluded fanboy
>This is what alejandro thinks
>Alejandro loves GT
lol :)
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>>160550559
I'll enjoy watching the best shonen anime currently airing, which Super is.
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Reminder Hit is going to evolve
Reminder this is toshio's most anticipating fight
Reminder Vegetafags are going to get more butthurt then Gohanfags
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>>160550232

Goku is God of Destruction candidate so using Hakai, he's Beerus and Whis so has had more opportunities to see it and has always had a
exceptional ability to take on people's move.


Future Trunks has never even seen the Genki Dama yet he somehow unknowingly and he does without the consent of the Earthling something was
needed for the regular Genki Dama, somehow Ki of a nearly wiped out Earth is able to defeat a being that tanked a Final Kamehameha from SSB Vegetto.
Remender that SSG is Universe tier while holding back.


These are two are in no way comparable, sorry.
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>Even Goku thinks Gohan is a bitch boy
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>>160550232
But right was foreshadowed!!!

Remember when Beerus trained Goku the Hakai?

Wait...maybe Goku SAW Beerus do it and copied it?

Maybe that was off-screen...it HAD to be
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>>160550606
bnha is better m8

inb4 "i hate popular things!"
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>>160549931
>posts shitty ass Americanized tacos instead of real ones
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>>160550612
how will vegetafags cope losing to hit twice?
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>>160550617
>Goku is God of Destruction candidate

Nice headcanon retard
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>>160550283
>Power levels ARE basic consistency for an anime that is largely based around fights,

That's what YOU want dragonball to be about. That's what it is to YOU.

Toriyama and the writing staff simply doesn't view it as a manga ABOUT fighting. To them it's an anime/manga meant to show off cool characters first and foremost, and fighting is simply a means to an end. When you look at it as a vehicle to introduce cool looking designs, transformations, and abilities wrapped in its own silly universe then the fights and power levels stop mattering so much.

I agree with you to some extent, but at the end of the day fighting is only a part of what keeps everyone watching. The rest is the world building and the characters, which is what Toriyama is focusing on most with Super.
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>>160550665
I hate popular things
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>has no argument
>needs to falsefag instead
Top kek
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>>160550683
>Vegeta gets his ass kicked by Ribrianne
>Then Hit swoops in and stomps him again
I want this
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>>160550635
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>>160550593
I've never even watched GT you dumb spic

>>160550593
I'll enjoy watching your mom's forehead as she sucks my cock faggot. Super is shit.
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>>160550283
Exactly. It would be stupid to continue not letting the rest of the cast contribute, but maybe think about that before you have Goku train with angels and give him three new forms in a row.
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>>160550612
thank god that hit isn't a mary sue in the manga
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>>160550612
at least my boy vegeta wont be jobbing to jiren
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>>160550232
Toyocucks HATE this

Instead of actually discussing which ass-pull they prefer and why, they still cling to the idea that Hakai Goku isn't an asspull

Because apparently they can never admit that Toyotaro has his own faults
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>>160550686
Read the manga retard
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So how many people have been knocked out?
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>>160550683
vegeta will win this fight.

not even a vegetafag, vegeta always wins the rematch. Thats his shtick. 1)job 2)cry 3)train 4)win rematch 5)repeat for next rival
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>>160550759
you sound like a YouTube commenter
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>>160550812
>wins the rematch
then how come toshio is hyping hit and not vegeta?
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>>160550232
right
since it makes sense since the GoD master whis is training goku and vegeta
left is an asspull for the sake of being an asspull
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>>160550775

Then you have Beerus claiming he cant kill immortals, yet Goku about to erase Merged Zamasu.
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>Toeishills: "Powerlevels don't matter!"
>The strongest guy still wins every time.
>The show has to force tension by focusing mostly on Holdbacku being groped by strange men because of this
How very odd.
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>>160550806
29
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>Toei shills are still desperately trying to compare Goku using Hakai after training with Beerus and Whis to Trunks using a move he hasn't seen before, unknowingly, without its previous limitations
wew lad
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>>160550767
but thats exactly whats going to happen after he beats Hit
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>>160550612
is toei aware that the guy is talking so much?
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>>160550785
I have and I'm up to date

Whis offering a GoD position, and Goku literally refusing, doesn't mean Goku is a candidate.

Also a GoD candidate doesn't automatically know Hakai just because.

Fuck off and continue sucking Toyo's dick
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Youngjijii's AF is better than Toyotaro's
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>>160550918
and yet goku is still training under whis
vegeta could probably do it too
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>>160550844
because youre an idiot that easily falls for red herring
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>>160550849
See: >>160550918
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>>160550701
None of that changes the fact that it's bad writing. There are ways they could have put everyone on the same level and have it make sense. Like I dunno, having Elder Kai unlock everyone's potential, or have Beerus grant everyone a bit of godly ki.

Instead they just went "yolo fuck powerlevels rule of cool!" and created a whole mess of inconsistencies that made an entire show's worth of buildup irrelevant. Had Goku never attained godly ki and kept SSJ3 as his limit, little from RoF onwards would've really changed.
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>>160550918
>Whis offering a GoD position, and Goku literally refusing, doesn't mean Goku is a candidate.

This pretty much sums up your "argument"
>>160550343
>In literature, foreshadowing is commonly done when a possibility is mentioned, but almost immediately dismissed or disproved. To some readers, they will dismiss the suggested possibility just as the unsuspecting characters do.
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>>160549880
This is fucking fascinating. We're not as far from a cyberpunk as fuck society as I thought.
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>>160550962
>vegetafag salty as fuck
you manlets are more pathetic then gohanpedos
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>>160547272
For now
better not disappoint when he does ToP
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>>160550918
>Also a GoD candidate doesn't automatically know Hakai just because.
Nice headcanon bruh
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>>160550968
trunks knowing spirit bomb doesn't make sense
and turning it into a fucking sword makes even less sense
he never met king kai
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CUT MY FEELS INTO PIECES
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>>160550994
im a gokufag actually. vegeta will job to jiren after beating hit and the fat fusion bitch. Then goku will get his new transformation, such is the flow of dragon ball plots
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Isn't it funny how Toyopedros have to go through such extreme mental gymnastics to defend their precious manga? Meanwhile us ToeiCHADs are living it up and getting quality episodes weekly.
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>>160550232
Left

It was a cool technique, and it's confined within the Trunks arc so it won't cause any problems like Hakai Goku will.

Right makes Goku overpowered as fuck. And the lack of an explanation on why he knows such a move doesn't help.

This isn't kamehameha. It's fucking HAKAI and an explanation is definitely needed.
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>>160551102
fuck off falseflagger
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>>160549944
Would rather have Frieza coming back by making a deal with the new ruler of the demon realm and training in hell rather then just being really talented and a natural fighting prodigy.
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>>160550881
I'm just glad Super Saiyan GOD Super Saiyan actually means something in the manga hopefully we see more God Ki tech in the future.
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>>160550976

Hit would have beaten goku easily if he were still SS3 level, let alone golden freeza
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>>160547703
I genuinely don't get why so many people care about the canon.
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>>160551076
>flow of dragon ball plots
you not dealing with your average logic here this is toei's super and there is a lot more unexpected stuff. It may not be goku will be the one last standing it might even be roshi.
See future trunks arc if you want predictable plot follow shittaro
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>>160546988
Reminder that Son Goku is beautiful.
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>>160551114
^This

Not to mention, Trunks was the public hero of the world in his timeline, and tons of people knew who he was because he stopped the androids, and was fighting Black publicly trying to save people, it makes sense he could get the energy needed for the spirit bomb sword from them when they were already connected like that.
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>>160550976
It's sad how expecting some level of logical consistency from DBS is sneered at just because the show writers pulling shit out of their ass is 'cool'.
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>>160550759
>super is shit and i need everyone to know it reeee
>StoP ENjoyING WHaT i dOn'T RRRE
Stop hating my chinise cartoons
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>>160550232
The one that doesn't remind me of Fairy Tail.
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>>160550232
Left makes some thematic sense (with Trunks, the hope of his future, beating the ningen-hating God with the power of the ningens he was protecting from Zamasu's murdering hate), which always wins me over, but it's still a huge narrative asspull. Right makes sense within the mechanics of the story but had no real reason to show up then and there, it's cool and believable but definitely very convenient.

What I think we must not forget about both of these is that, despite being asspulls, they were worth jack-fucking-shit since Zamasu didn't really die and after returning he got erased by Zeno anyways which renders all of the previous fighting irrelevant, a reminder to watch Dragon Ball not for the stakes but for the character interactions, the battles and engaging conflicts.
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>>160551169
eat shit trunksfag
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>>160551024
Goku knowing Hakai doesn't make sense either

Also Spirit Bomb is a Saiyan Saga-tier move. Goku learned it with a power level around 7000-9000

SS Rage Trunks' power level is what? Around 100 million? People like that can fart out Spirit Bombs by accident.

Not saying that Trunks' Spirit Bomb + Sword isn't an asspull. It definitely is. But so is Goku's Hakai.
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>>160551132
lol

whatever you say, meanwhile know that when all of this unfolds exactly as I described, I'll be thinking of you, and the "goku wasnt holding back!" fags and laughing to myself.
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https://twitter.com/toshio916/status/892076509573267456

Toshio at it again

>>160551132
People were expecting Black to fuse with someone and Zeno to show up thanks to the button. The how was unexpected

>>160551169
>Trunks is the Mr Satan of the Future
woah
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>>160551019
> Arguing a supposed headcanon with another headcanon

Retard
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>>160550909
i give him 3 moths before he is fired
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>trunksfags trying to defend that shitty asspull to make that shitty character relevant
this is the goku show
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>doesn't eliminate Kale, the girl directly responsible for wiping half his team out

So far he's proven himself to be a shit character.
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>>160551223
>Goku knowing Hakai doesn't make sense either
It does he trained with Beerus and Whis, plus Goku copying other moves isn't anything new.

>People like that can fart out Spirit Bombs by accident.
This is complete headcanon.
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>>160550918
>Whis offering a GoD position, and Goku literally refusing, doesn't mean Goku is a candidate.
This is the most retarded argument to say something shouldn't be the case in any story. That's like saying some shit like "Ichigo refuses to be a Shinigami Captain, therefore he can't use Bankai which every captain knows how to use." Goku refusing is just words. The whole fucking point is that Whis offered it to Goku even if he refused. What the actual fuck is wrong with you? Let the autists argue over whether or not Hakai was foreshadowing, whether the anime or the manga is better, and what is and isn't an asspul, but your actual argument that Goku refusing the GoD position means anything in terms of his technical abilities or potential in why he was offered the position in the first place is complete shit.
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>>160551219
this makes me wonder, is it worth getting upset over an asspull if the asspull didn't contribute to a win?
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>>160551223
>Goku knowing Hakai doesn't make sense either
How difficult is it to learn Hakai? Canon statements only, please.
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>>160549709
I didn't have any idea for what kind of underwear to name him after and boxers was taken and tight whities and longjohn is porny.

>>160549788
Gine was never pregnant, they basically put them into the vats right after conception.
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>>160551271
>this is the goku show

This isnt GT.
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>>160551247
He should keep talking, he'll get fired at this point
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>>160551271
>Goku should be the only relevant character because muh power scaling
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>>160551260
>no argument
wew lad
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>>160551247
this toshio dude is retarded
Toei should close his twitter acc
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>>160551247
what a guy
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>>160551132
> It may not be goku will be the one last standing it might even be roshi.
Absolutely delusional.
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>>160551333
he's the main character
deal with it
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>gohan is a jobb-
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I love how no one ITT can actually refute that Caulifla getting super saiyan 2 is an asspull, and just bring up goten and trunks instead. This entire fucking board is one extended example of tu quoque. Never defend, always "what about". Every single time.
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What will be your reaction when Caulifla and Kale become recurring characters on the show after this arc?
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>>160551332
>Implying Toei isn't putting him up to it
They spoil their own episodes a month in advance. And is it really a spoiler when they put out a fucking promo poster of the thing?
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>b-but i was supposed to have the strongest ningens
>muh pride troopa's....
U11 is more shit then i thought Toppo is overrated and jiren is probably going to job from U6 members working together
>U6 the fuck you talking nigger
U6 has to stay alive so that the super dragon balls wont get destroyed. PREDICTABLE AS SHIT
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When the manga ends will they make another
anime based on it
like Full-metal Alchemist: Brotherhood ??
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>>160551368
Who cares, SS2 is irrelevant anyways, it's all about SSB now and we already know she won't get it in a long time
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When will we see manga Caulifla?
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How often does Jiren anlally probe Cocotte
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>relevant!!!!!
This meme again, they failed the only relevant character was Zeno.
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>>160551380
>160551380
constantly rage about stick figure design.

bout it.
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>>160550977
> "Wanna be a GoD?"
> "No."
> Goku later uses a GoD-tier technique without any proper explanation

F O R E S H A D O W I N G
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>>160551223
>SS Rage Trunks' power level is what? Around 100 million? People like that can fart out Spirit Bombs by accident.

DB isn't a fucking JRPG where you only need to get a sufficiently high enough level to get an already established yet simply greyed out move to pop up.

This is an old school D&D game where you had to seek out masters to learn new techniques. And even though the technique can be used by level 5 shitters it's so fucking useful and broken that it can carry you for multiple levels and be useful in almost any situation.

That's like saying that the only thing you needed to get SSJ was a high powerlevel. Which is fucking retarded.
It doesn't even make sense in the canon where they think that people miraculously gain new unstoppable technique by simply going up in power.
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>>160551388
I don't want another shitty anime by Toei, I just want the manga to be weekly.
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>>160551380
>Caulifla and Kale become recurring characters
Latin america suicide rates tripled when
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>>160551368
A gang leading prodigy from an evolved Saiyan species from a stronger Universe is able to easily achieve not even the strongest transformation our main saiyan characters have, what a surprise.
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>>160551337
Still waiting on yours
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>>160551465
Would it have to be Toei?
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>>160551333
Gohan has been stronger then goku for longer then DBZ has been a thing.
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>>160551443
>simplification fallacy
wew lad
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>>160548671
>>160548710
>>160548750
Have some fresh donutposting OC friend.
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>>160551368
It's almost like Super Saiyan forms are hard to get one time narratively and then everyone else picks them up with little effort.
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>>160551465
>I just want the manga to be weekly.
Then you'd be whining "shitty art!!11! Plotholes!!1!!1!"
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>>160551460
>DB isn't a fucking JRPG where you only need to get a sufficiently high enough level to get an already established yet simply greyed out move to pop up.
What is super saian transformation
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How would you people feel if caulifla came back in a future arc but as the main villain?
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>>160551476
>Gang leader

That don't mean shit, Frieza was a galactic ruler and jobbed to SSJ1
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>>160551193
People hear "power levels are dumb" and start parroting it thoughtlessly.

Yeah, spic-tier autism like counting who has how many billions kajillions of power level points compared to someone else is dumb and unnecessary. But literally nobody does that here.

Power levels as a rough power ranking between characters should exist, it's basic consistency. If any characters in your show fight there will be power levels because someone has to be logically weaker than someone else. If everyone has arbitrary powers and abilities that are based on what is cool at the moment, there are no fucking stakes, anything could happen.
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Will he be the MVP of the ToP?
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>>160551333
>Trunks
>Goes running to Daddy and Goku for help
>Pulls Mary Sue powers out of his ass to beat Zamasu BLACKED
>FAILS to beat ZB
>MAKES THINGS WORSE because ZB fuses with the universe
>Goku has to tattle on Zamasuverse to God because no one can beat Zamasuverse
Fuck DBSTrunks.
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>>160551495
Of course they have the animation rights to Dragon Ball.
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>>160551476
Trunks can automagically pull a spiritbomb sword from his ass but she couldn't stumble upon fucking SSJ1.
Even though she's a super prodigy and all it takes is back tingles?
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>>160550909
What would happen if Toei finds out about this?
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>>160551297
>This is complete headcanon.

Funny coming from someone defending Goku's hakai literally because he just trained with Whis
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>>160551557
>on par with 17
How the mighty has fallen HAHAHAHA
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Are they lesbians or not?
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>>160551388
No, becuase the manga was always nothing but a side mateiral to promate the anime.

The anime is and was the source material.

If anything, once the manga is done, they will make a manga to match up with the anime.
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>>160551193

because the logical consistency of Dragon Ball power levels ever made sense, right?

>Raditz is so powerful Goku and piccolo must team up to stop him and goku dies
>Krillin trains for a year and is suddenly not only surpasses DB goku and piccolo but strong enough to kill multiple raditzes

>piccolo dies to Nappa
>next appearance he fights evenly with 2nd form freeza

>Goku goes from power level 8,000 to power level 180,000 in 6 days, then jumps up to 3 million and fighting evenly with freeza because of magic "zenkai" plot device

>9 year old who never won a fight in his life beats cell


All of these were fucking ass-pulls at the time, you were just too young and dumb to realize it. This show has always had lazy writing in terms of power consistency
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>>160551582
No.
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>>160551494
>still no argument
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>>160551303
Goku refused the GoD position AND Goku never explained why he learned Hakai
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>>160551578
>17 is on par with SSB Goku

You were saying?
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>>160551531
It's shitty and has plotholes anyway lmao
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>>160551558
he was to weak too trasnform
caulifla is stronger than gotenks
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>>160551574
>Goku's hakai literally because he just trained with Whis
Except this is true, it stated in the manga that Beerus and Whis are training Goku, with him becoming a GoD in mind.

Your point whenever isn't stated anywhere, nice try.
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my mad theory:

Grand Priest is manipulating the situation so that after all the other universes lose, Goku will use the dragon balls to revive all the other universes. This will bring back ALL of the universes Zeno ever deleted. This will cause all sorts of problems, but one possibility is that it will bring back the Angel's original universe so they can free themselves from slavery.
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>>160551625
>goku was literally holding back
you still losing gohanfag
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17 = SSB Goku
17 = Gohan
Gohan = SSB Goku

GODhan CONFIRMED
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>>160551519
10/10 would eat donuts with Geran.
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>>160551625
he was holding back
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>>160551169
I'm a Trunksfag too and I think this "Jesus Christ of the future" shit was cheesy and retarded. Not to mention pointless since everyone died anyway. Manga handled this arc better.
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>>160551538
The equivalent of a child learning how to walk.

Not the equivalent of an infant who can barely crawl breaking out into a full gymnastics routine on their first birthday.
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>>160551690
Just more icing on the donut, fellow CHADhan poster.
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>>160550682
>Americanized versions of things are shit
Literally the biggest meme there is.
>Try beer in a pub in London
>Tastes like literal piss
>Try pizza in Rome
>The fuck is this shit? Tastes like I'm eating a soy based vegan pizza substitute
>Try AUTHENTIC RAMEN GOTTA TRY IT GAIJIN in NY
>Doesn't taste any better than the fucking conceptions I made using top ramen in college
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>>160551689
it took him days to respond
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>>160551705
>I'm a Trunksfag too
>"Jesus Christ of the future" shit was cheesy and retarded
>Manga handled this arc better.
This desu
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>>160551689
>posts a screenshot where Goku was holding back against Kale
>when talking about 17 and Gohan

Antigohanfags, everybody. Just accept that CHADhan is amazing
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>>160551685
>with him becoming a GoD in mind.
Nice headcanon retard

They're literally just training them for Earth food. Whis then offered the GoD position once and Goku refused.

Sorry but Toyo isn't perfect
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>Broly hates Goku because his fighting autism is responding to a high power level
Hold up. Where'd this crying baby stuff come from?
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>>160551697
17 was holding back too :,)

>>160551727
Based HITTOposter knows how it is
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>Hitfags coming out of the shadows due to recent toshio statements
Fucking fire this shit writer already
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>>160551765
Stop being retarded.
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>>160551623
>Goku refused the GoD position AND Goku never explained why he learned Hakai
Again, leave arguing about asspulls and Hakai to other autists, but I'm telling you that saying Goku refusing the GoD position means jack shit is fucking retarded. When the fuck has something like that in any story ever, EVER meant anything in regards to a character's capabilities? God of Destruction is literally a occupation. A job. Goku was offered it on his capabilities, and you using that argument that him refusing that occupation means ANYTHING is ridiculous.
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>>160551685
Nice headcanon
>STILL defending the hakai

Reminder Toyo isn't good, even average, or even below-average, he's just shit.
Just because you're disappointed with the anime doesn't mean the alternative is redeemable, either.
Instead, you should have standards.
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I like Super
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>>160551815
HOW DARE YOU REEEEE
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>>160551757
Goku is always holding back
>implying he was using full power against krillin,17,jobhan
gohanpedo pls
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>>160551815
Nice headcanon
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>>160551814
>no argument
wew lad
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>>160551582
In my heart they are.
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>>160551807
t. cuckgeta fag
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>>160551810
Why the fuck are Mangastream and Viz so shit at their translations? Neither of them even caught that Shin mentioned he was an apprentice learning to be Kaioshin under the Grand Supreme Kai.
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>>160551815
I like Super also
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the chimp cauliturd deserves to be shot by furiza sama's laser beam
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>>160551810
>argues Goku knows it because he's training with becoming GoD in mind
>posts a scan of him rejecting the notion

You just blew yourself the fuck out.
Hakai IS an asspull. We haven't even seen Goku SEE Beerus use it in the manga, so your "h-he replicates skills" arguments falls flat.
How many times must people be blown the fuck out before they quit crying about Toyo's mistakes?
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>>160551585
>because the logical consistency of Dragon Ball power levels ever made sense, right?
Yeah? The characters get stronger by training and there's actual tiers that don't suddenly get tossed out of the window just because it's 'cool' to do so. DB and Z made power progression feel natural instead of this "just holding back :^)" shit you seem to like eating up. The point being that they were BETTER WRITTEN than DBShitshow.
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>>160551848
17 was holding back as well my man, I'm sorry that you don't have any more arguments
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>>160551308
That's a very interesting question. I personally don't, but I'd like to see what other anons think. Of course, when both of those things happened, some people might have thought Zamasu was actually done for and thus got angry at the 'asspull' in an instant, but now that the arc is over in both anime and manga, should anyone look back and get upset about them? is the asspull aspect of them what they're really upset about, or something else?
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>>160551815
just because we criticize it
it doesn't mean we don't like the potential of the story
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>lewd vados x cabba

this is great. we need more

>whis - FABULOUS
>vados - LEWD

i need cus and mascaritas or whatever her twin tails name is.
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>>160551859
And you lose.
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>>160551885
Shut the fuck up retard
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NEW

>>160551915
>>160551915
>>160551915
>>160551915
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>>160551582
Yes, as will be shown in toshio's episode
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>>160551862
go back to posting shitty donut memes hitfag you gonna job to the ayylmao
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>>160551857
>>160551857
>>160551857
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>>160551807
Donuts?
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>>160551815
Mario bros. You like Super Mario bros.
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Super bridges Z and GT. Let it sink in.
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>>160551810
>literally proving his point

Toyocucks have so little argument they choose to argue against themselves instead.
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>>160551886
>posts a scan of him rejecting the notion
This shitty "argument" again >>160550343
>In literature, foreshadowing is commonly done when a possibility is mentioned, but almost immediately dismissed or disproved. To some readers, they will dismiss the suggested possibility just as the unsuspecting characters do.

Atleast you stopped arguing that Whis and Beerus aren't training to be a GoD.
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>>160551945
talking to yourself?
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>>160551949
>>160551959
Can you idiots not make new duplicate threads this early? And then you proceed to go whine about mods doing their job
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Androids are master race, fridges and monkeys BTFO!
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>>160551949
>ISISshitpostthread
Ignore this one, go here:

>>160551959
>>160551857
>>160551857
>>160551857
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>>160551897

how is piccolo getting a 1000x power boost by fusing with an almost dead guy not clearly throwing all tiers out the window just for the sake of being cool?
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>>160551987
training him*
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>>160551736
Then you haven't tried Tacos from Tijuana then. Americanized tacos are so different that I wouldn't even consider them tacos.
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>>160551904
>17 was holding back
nice headcanon pedochan
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>>160552002
>Retard's first argument
Pathetic
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>>160552060
he literaly says it in ep 86
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>>160551380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRQcDJBsGYM
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>>160551987
So, your argument is that Goku REJECTED the notion, which means that he WAS?
Because foreshadowing is one thing, but this GoD training is a tangible thing that Goku either needs to BE or NOT be doing, and, as demonstrated, he is NOT doing it. Therefore he has no grounds to learn Hakai.
Furthermore, he hasn't even been shown to SEE it.
The foreshadowing was so shoddy it can barely be labeled as such. Therefore: asspull.
Sorry, you lose. As you have EVERY time you've tried to argue this point. And you're STILL arguing it. You've even made a pasta to try and argue it, and you STILL get bodied.
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>>160552060
Have you even seen their fight? Pathetic
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>>160552092
before goku turned blue faggot
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>>160552040
Because 'number crunching' is stupid. Piccolo went up a tier and that's what's important.
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>>160552114
This has ben posted dozens of times in the last 6 hours
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>>160551815
Kys spic
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>>160552123
>Therefore he has no grounds to learn Hakai.
He does he trained with Beerus and Whis.

>Furthermore, he hasn't even been shown to SEE it.
The manga implies he did twice. >>160550343
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>>160552162
Rewatch the ep please
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>>160552184

Even ignoring actual numbers, Freeza was several tiers above Nappa at the time, who killed Piccolo.

Like seriously, go back and watch the namek saga. The power difference between the two was supposed to be huge
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>>160550232
Right
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>>160552261
Not as a GoD candidate, though. Toooo bad.
>implies
Off-screen. Too shoddy to be accounted for.
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>>160552162
BHAWHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>160552322
so blue is anything above ss2
without a notable limit?
... and holding back as well
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>>160551265
>Angry moth noises
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>>160549673
>not YamCHAD
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>>160551796
>>160551727
Hitfags and Gohancucks are colluding together? My, looks like things are starting to get interesting.
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>>160552567
They are all toshiofags
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