Dragon Ball Super

>>160537756
USE THE CATALOG RETARDS

>>160537875
Stop newfagging like a bitch

>>160537756
faggot OP

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The magical girls will ring him out whilst I deal with Jiren

Lava Goku when?

>Frieza trains 4 months = Strong as SSB
>17 (stronger than frieza) trains 10 (ten) years = Strong as Gohan
This is triggers jobhan fags

ma nigger

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Praise his superiority

Reminder niggers hate waifu saiyans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRQcDJBsGYM

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This is your U7 dark horse. Say something nice about her.

no
freeza will save his ass

>implememt db room
> dont fire gtfags
how do you expect quality to improve if you sont clean the mess?

*muffled raffing in the distance*

>>160542623
reminder that your obsession with female drawings is actually pretty sad

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Don't forget that she took out more opponents then Jobhan.

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WAKEY WAKEY VEGETA AND 17 FAGS

>>160542660
t.jamal

>>160542639
we let chong get away with it

>>160542639
>the guy in charge of the manga is known for writing gt fanfic
>toei writers are all gttards
no wonder super is shit

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>>160542694
Wakey wakey female jobbers

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I find your lack of smug anime men disturbing.

>>160542706
Shut the fuck up retard

>>160542705
>not being pathetic neckbeard stuck in my mother's basement wanking to drawings means I'm a Muslim
Alhamdulillah I guess then, nerd

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>>160542708
Super has been amazing for Android 18 fans like me. Fuck all the other bullshit. Especially fuck Gohan and Bejita.

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>>160542708
>Toriyama hates GT
>hires guy who loves GT as the DBS mangaka and hires a bunch of GT fans for the Dragon Ball Room

What did Toriyama intend by this?

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Reminder that this is best girl from Universe 7.

>>160542785
the guy is a troll genuis. He told himself i get paid by toei for quick buck and make everyone hate the show because nobody liked gt.
only problem is as long as his name is behind it everyone buys it

>>160542761
holy shit anon stop getting baited

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Is this accurate?

>>160542785
( r a u g h s )
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Maybe Goku should listen to the androids some more.

>>160542848
>vegeta
>not a manlet
try again

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[Cool Vibrations]
Muhahahaha...

>>160542785
>tons of non canon movies hommages only now realise that super is made by a bunch of chongs
superfags can not complain about gt

>tfw Jiren has not eliminated a single fighter
>tfw Jiren was sitting around off screen while half his team got eliminated

>>160543007
GT is shit. Accept it.

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>>160537756
Reminder that Hit is gonna win the ToP cause O MY IMPROVEMENT

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Reminder that this is the pinnacle of Dragon Ball designs and walmart broly can't even compete, even with her whore pet owner

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>>160543049
When are we gonna see some kick-ass Hit action?

>>160543049
O MY JELLY DONUTS

>>160543073
After 105 i bet

>>160543082
Shut the fuck up underage

>>160543082
what is this donuts meme ?

>>160542556

freeza is also a genetic freak alien that had a one in a trillion billion rare mutation that made him stronger than everyone in the entire universe (until goku) and also happens to have limitless potential.

17 is just some teenager with robot parts

>>160543139
English Hit says time to make the donuts in xenoverse.

>>160543176
>17 is just some teenager with robot parts
So this is the power of lowballing

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>>160543049
EVOLVING

mods are asleep post amvs

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>>160543049
your bakery is next donutboy

>>160543139
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-pUSkxJxgc

So how will Xenoverse 3 adapt this?
Who's the CaC gonna replace in the 10 man?
Or will he/she be a special case and will have to fight the other teams including U7 to keep the Time Patrol city from being erased?

>>160543225
does this writer guy answer to every fucking question ?
i hope he leaks smth and gets fired

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>>160543049
>IMPROVEMENT
Pure Progress

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>>160543225
>nothing can't be worse then Gt
HOLD MY BEER

>>160543274
it either picks the highlights or just the last fights
with jiren vs goku and freeza

>>160543233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6CYI3Xb1tQ

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Toppo will also be in the upcoming episode.

I want to see him fight Freeza.

>>160543274
Shut the fuck up retard

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>>160543297
tokitobashi is too strong

>>160543296
he stopped answering questions after episode 100 i think he gave too much away about Hit

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The androids got this one in the bag.

>>160543274
Towa goes full funky town and causes a time crash, causing a mashup of the tournament of power and the tournament from DB Fusions where literally fucking everyone is competing

>>160543314
>tfw 17 is the only smart character

>>160543225
hit stopping time for 10 seconds confirmed

>>160543314
>even Goku is offended

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>>160543349
Unlike everyone else, the androids know to not fuck around and get shit done.

>>160543297
this progress shit is worse than goku blacks zenkais

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>>160543381
Hit doesn't fuck around, though.

>>160543314
>saiyan justice warrior

>>160543326
Uh, no? Fuck you.

>>160543407
Hit also saves his teammates. Truly the MVP of his universe.

Remember when Frieza was gonna join Universe 4?
Those were very strange times.

>>160543314
fucking toppo is a moralfag i hope hit puts some holes n this niggas ass

>>160543447
t'was merely a ruse

>>160543505
roshi should get a transformation where his beard turns into electricity

>>160543459

Speaking of Hit, where the hell did he go? He only disappeared just to give the saiyan girls the spotlight.

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>>160543447
Is it time for old theories?

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Everyone who's still a salty Cellfag = BTFO

>>160543447
remember when goten was black

>>160543541
>Hit knows his team has the most fighters left (10)
so he is gonna group them alll so he can protec them with his op time skip
das my headcanon donut steel

>>160543447
Remember when Broly was INSIDE MAGETTA

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>>160543447
Remember when Caulifla was female Broly?

>>160543619
wasn't it gero from u6 earth?

>>160543638
spic here when U6 was introduced most fan believed Broly was maggeta and hit was u6 cell

>>160543543
Yes.
>>160543619
>>160543629

Future Goten somehow being Goku Black would've unironically made the plot far more interesting

>>160542665
>>160542745
>>160542629
why the fuck is super becoming a girl show? First the two mary sue saiyans now this fucking android and next brianne or whatever her name is?

Can we just get over this dumb female pandering and get to the actual show again?

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>>160543314
Frieza is going to pulverize that noisy fool

>>160543629
I recall even Herms fell for this and said that Toei took Toriyama's saiyan and turned her into a female Broly.
He also insisted that the magazine was saying Caulifla is the Saiyan from the opening even though the wording was vague.

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>>160543724
no

>>160543748
t. Devastated Zamasufag

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>>160543234
IMO Jiren is a Red Herring, and this Beerus looking guy is the real threat.

I think Dyspo is the real GoD killer. He looks just like Champa and Beerus. There has to be a reason for that and they have been completely ignoring it.

>>160543564
Was that Preecho guy really just an insult to all Cellfags? He looks a bit TOO similar to Cell for it to be a coincidence. And we haven't even seen his power.

>>160543726
Literally every single strong fighter is manly in one form or another.
the girls are either mid or bottom tier.

>>160543176
>rare mutation

lol everyone of freeza's race is effortlessly strong, and none of them train, theyre legitimatetly the strongest natural race. His dad was as strong as he was and neither of them trained

>>160543351
>stopping time
>10 seconds

Dumbass

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This is Mai, my waifu.
She may never have the OP powers that Kale or Caulifla have but she is a fighter. A survivor.
Not even a pathetic god like Zamasu in Goku's body could kill her.

>>160543798
He was almost eaten by a generic cosmic monster.

>>160543779
>W-what if Zamasu took Goten and raised a ningen as his own!
I shouldn't have to explain why that is retarded.

>>160543437
Just shut up fucking faggot

>>160542639
DBR didn't fix shit anyway.

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>>160543726
Android 18 has always been part of the show.

She just needs a better spotlight showing everybody how much of a badass she is.

>>160543386
>not caulifla's getting to ss2 in an hour

kek

>>160543826
Him and his dad are the ones with the mutation, you know.

>>160543798
GoD in u11, angel in u3. How deep does it go? 3rd copy of Zeno as one of the unknown fighters left?

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Reminder Latin america was a mistake

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>>160543072
>Fem Broly just bulks up
>Broly LITERALLY FUCKING TEARS HIS BODY OPEN AND EXPLODES TO TRANSFORM

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dragon ball but all the saiyans look like shaved monkaaays

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>>160543909
Why isn't she as cool as him?

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>>160543447
> Not counting that Caulifa and "FemBroly" have different hair, face, and outfit

There are ACTUALLY people that think the smug, barbaric girl on the top = the shy, timid girl on the bottom

Remember when people thought Gotenks was Black

>>160543959
She's canon.

>>160543893
wrong, frost is also super strong naturally, freeza tells goku in a the rof arc that he wants to prove that he is from the superior race, he implies that superstrength without effort is not in fact a mutation but just a natural attribute of his race

>>160543909
Kale isn't Broly.

>>160542556
>Strong as Gohan
17 is much stronger than Gohan.

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>>160543843
He was holding back for... personal reasons...

>>160543982
>frost
Frost is from U6

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>>160543809
I am 95% sure that, that Preecho guy was (memes aside) an homage to Tenshinhan using his Shin Kikoho for the first time on Semi-Perfect Cell, and stuff.

>>160543819
>beating the shit out of goku
>Bottom tier

>18 has the most knockouts of any other fighter we've seen
>bottom tier

>>160537875
>HO HO HO I am HUGE FAGGOT

>>160543974
Last minute design change. And name change. And personality change.

>>160544022
>not scratching goku
>knocking out jobbers

>>160544005
Not according to writer san tweets

>>160543072
Broly is fucking shit. What a pathetic excuse for a Dragon Ball villain.
>DUDE MUSCLES LMAO

>>160543843
That doesn't mean anything, Goku didn't have SS3 until the plot needed it.

Maybe he couldn't use his full power because he was in a city and didn't want to hurt anyone. We do know he has a strong desire to help people.

>>160543982
yes and theyve both from the same race because 6 mirrors 7. see:saiyans.

I realize nobody ever admits theyre wrong in these threads, but you just are.

>>160543959
because breasts don't make sense in an earth shattering fist fight

>>160543982

why can't it be both? His race is both incredibly strong AND freeza happens to be exceptional even for his already powerful race

>>160543878
But cauli and kale havent been. Hell even Cabba has been around longer than these two and he's supposedly stronger.

>>160543974
How long did it take to dig this pasta up?

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>>160543638
>>160543619
>>160543724
Pic related and twists like this would have actually made this a cool arc.

Unfortunately all of those ideas are cooler than what we're going to get.

>>160544020
Why is Tenshinhan gay for Chiaotzu but makes vagina shapes for his ultimate technique?

>>160544055
meant for
>>160544009

>>160544051
H-HOLDING BACK!

>>160544061
this
frost is weak as shit

>>160544042
>repeatedly slams his body into the ground, tanks a full blue kamehameha and grabs his face
>not scratching

kek, she wrecked him man.

>knocking out jobbers
>goku cant even knockout the two mary sue jobber saiyans.

>>160544055
Saiyans aren't the same in U7 as they are in U6, so that's a false equivalency.

>>160544114
>full blue kamehameha
>doesn't even give him a concussion or anything
>not even a scratch after he gets out of the rubble

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>>160543726
Lol
Wakey Wakey MGTOWFAGGOT

>>160544087
>>Broly is inside magetta
>twists like this would have actually made this a cool arc.
wtf pedro are you daijoubu ?

>>160544061
because the latter has no proof but the former has been covered already, and confirmed once we realized that his mirror version is also a naturally-strong evil bastard. He probably trained and is as strong as golden freeza now, its just that race, never has the concept of a "mutation" ever brought up that is pure headcannon, there is nothing to suggest a mutation has anything to do with it. If anything, dragon ball is anti-eugenics and makes the argument that training>innate talent

>>160544093
This website is strictly for people who are above the age of 18.
>>>/out/

>Job Trooper can increase his weight
>weight heavy enough that Goku cant even move
>Goku could benchpress UY Scuti by now
>that sky is heavier than the largest star in the universe
>he didnt become a fucking blackhole from the extra imaginary mass
>he didnt sink through the arena due to his density

Also
>Cocotte barriers are other dimensions
>somehow you can move them if you arent Cocotte since they are dimensions meaning they are static in their position and wont move no matter what you do
>Why the fuck didnt Cocotte just barrier the wing behind them?

Fuck Toei and this shit writing.

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>>160543798

If we're going by design, the masked guy from universe 3 looks suspiciously like an angel. It probably doesn't mean anything though.

>>160544162
I just hate Kale that much honestly.

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Reminder that unless Goku BREAKS HIS ARMS he is holding back

>>160544153
So because toei didn't draw a scratch you dont count the fact that he was beat the fuck up as damage? You're a flaming autist.

Kale had no scratches in the last ep and she was knocked out cold by jiren

>HURR NO SCRATCHES SOOO DOESN'T COUNT

>>160537756
>now only the most powerful warriors in the universe remain
>the real tournament begins now

Tenshinhan and Roshi confirmed for most powerful warriors of the universe

Krillin BTFO

>>160544127
theyre close enough just like frost, and considerig every single member of freeza's race is depicted as really strong, there is no reason to assume this is some sort of rare mutation. It would be incredibly unlikely for both universes to have strong saiyans and ayyy lmaos out of coincidence.

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>>160544227

>>160544170
>While Frieza's race is powerful, the most powerful individuals are Frieza and King Cold thanks to being mutants. Frieza and King Cold seem to in fact be a part of a hybrid species that came into existence as a result of an accidental spontaneous mutation that first appeared a long time ago.

taken from toriyama interview in 2002

>>160544161
It's just bad writing man. It undermines every single training episode we've ever seen in dragon ball.

Just be honest

>>160544241
>"Whoever can make the biggest pile of shit wins!"

>>160544241
Hit will EVOLVE according to GT writer and solo both guko and geran

>>160544221
>doesn't even inflict contextual damage, he gets up fine after her beating
>no drawn scratches or anything
>falsely assuming that it was full power when he wasn't even using kaioken or anything.

Stop reaching.

Did Gohan job already?

I don't want to watch the show.

>>160544294
no wait for next week when piccolo jobs to U10

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HITTO-SAN TEACH ME TAIMU SKIPPUUUU

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>>160544227
Guys, leave the "Tournament of Power" to us!

>>160544170
>never has the concept of a "mutation" ever brought up that is pure headcannon
It was mentioned by Toriyama in interviews both from the 90s and recent ones, so it seems to be an idea pretty strongly solidified in his concept of Freeza.

In the original series, "he's a mutant like us" also was Ginyu's assumption regarding Goku's high power.

>>160544254
>2002
>implying toriyama remembers that
>implyinf the writers remember that

piccolo used to be a slug and goku was a magical spiritual monkey child and aliens didnt exist.

>>160544197
JC Denton?

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>>160544068
pasta.txt

>>160544280
The autistic mental gymnastics is real

He got beat up by kale, get over it.

>Hur toei didn't draw a scratch

Cauli had 50 scratches in one scene and then 30 seconds later she had none. Toei drawing scratches is less important than toei drawing someone getting beat up.

Why did caulifla's scratches disappear autist?

>>160544324
>TAIMU SKIPPUUUU
>Not toki-tobashi
get out

>>160544280
Why would you even argue that goku got beat up by kale?

>no drawn scratches

It's an anime for fucks sake.

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>>160544366

>>160544371
goku holding back is a meme that goes back to the original dragon ball tournaments. Even goku black held back constantly and then suddenly shit out tons of power on a dime, its part of goku's dna to hold back and let his opponent tucker themselves out, he even tried it on freeza before realizing that he would tire first.

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>>160544366
10/10

Gotta say, I really could not be less interested in the U6 saiyans, but this episode wasn't bad by Super standards. The pride troopers were dumb, but at least their gimmicks were kind of interesting, if hilariously inconsistent.

I do wish the series would stop going out of its way to make Goku and Vegeta look weak in order to hype up how totally badical whichever jobber of the week is up next, but that's been standard ever since Blue was introduced. And I get that it's not exactly unusual for shonen, but it would be nice for the powerful characters to feel powerful again.

>>160544337
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/episode-bardock-akira-toriyama-super-qa/

Interview from 2014. It's a concept Toriyama has mentioned in interviews since the 90s. Not just a single answer he said once.

>Freeza is what you might call a mutated life-form. Strictly speaking, Freeza’s father is a mutant with an abnormally high battle power. And, born from his father alone, still in strong possession of the mutant traits, was Freeza.

>Accordingly, even saying “Freeza’s race”, these two are the only ones who possess an abnormal [level of] battle power and cruelty.

Frost has been outright referenced as the "Freeza of Universe 6" in spite of having a different name, he seems to be intended to be a direct counterpart to Freeza.

>>160544427
It's literally showed in the episode that he goes max power on the kamehameha.

>>160543342
>>160542865
Why so bully wtf?

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>>160537756
I don't care as long as Kale and Caulifla survive

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>>160544265
Back to your cuck circle jobhan

Reminder Kale in SSJ is sexier than Shitflifa.

>>160544547
t. autist virgin

>>160544504
nope, he says more power not max power, "more" doesnt mean full, it means more than the ssj2 he was at when he said that. Still not "breaking my arms or kao ken" strength, we've literally seen what it looks like when he goes all out, he didnt have a kao ken glow at all whatsoever

>>160544366
holy shit we've travelled like three months back in time

>>160544547
Man, spoiler your episode 102 spoilers, geez.

>>160543798
>IMO Jiren is a Red Herring, and this Beerus looking guy is the real threat.

If Toei are going to red herring route with Jiren, the more likely candidate for the real strongest fighter is someone who hasn't been revealed yet.

It's likely to be Damon, the Cell clone guy from U4 with the self destruct and vanishing techniques. He hasn't been revealed yet nor has he shown up in the tournament yet despite nearly half the fighters being gone.

The only reason why we even know of him is because of people digging around the source code on Toei's site.

>>160544395
Goku didn't have a scratch on him, he had a poker face the whole time he was ragdolled and later on he stood up with no signs of damage or being tired out and immediately went to challenge Gerald.

If they wanted to show Goku being damaged from the encounter, they would've done so. Even after being blasted by Toppo in the last episode he showed some signs of being hurt.

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>>160544547
>>160544265
>>160544161
>>160543726
The falseflaggerfag is awake again.

>>160544607
I mean, are we sure Toei didn't just forget to draw Goku looking hurt? It's not like wed be surprised by that happening.

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>>160544541
You know they won't, and that's a good thing. You'd have to be completely out of your mind to think that they even have a chance

>>160544607
dont forget there is a quick frame while kale is smashing goku around where you see that goku is just tanking the slams and looks totally calm and undamaged with his arms tucked.

>>160544650
>he thinks champa is getting erased
kek

>>160544583
I can hit you with 20 full power punches. A full power punch doesnt mean that I'll have no more energy to punch after that.

Get over it. I know you don't want to think that kale is stronger than goku even though the episode clearly stated that but get over it.

Blame toei for bad writing instead of defending them.

Anyone want to see a butt-hurt Broly fan chimp out?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRQcDJBsGYM

>>160544607
How dumb are you? It's a cartoon.
They fire mega energy canon beams at each other and their clothes don't rip. Does that mean leather is stronger than a kamehameha, autist?

Goku got fucked up by kale. She beat him up. get over it.

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>responsible for last week's ep
Is he the worst writer on the show?

>>160544695
Did he use Kaioken? No? Then you are wrong. Good bye.

>>160544216
>if Goku isn't using his full power he isn't using his full power
wow you really got me there

>>160544753
unfortunately no

>>160544753
So he's responsible for this complete fucking shitshow that is the female saiyans. I fucking hate when cucks get in charge of writing

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>>160544547
Inb4 deleted by based Gohanfag mods

>>160544695
Youre literally retarded though. There were multiple hints throughout the fight that imply goku didnt take any damage, youre the one that needs to get over it if youre actually dumb enough to realize that goku has a new transfomation on top of the fact that he didnt even kao ken. Youre the one being unreasonabls and short-sighted and unable to pick up on clues. Watch the fight again and tell me that goku isnt tanking those slams, why else zoom in on him being calm as it happens?

>>160544197
>looks suspiciously like an angel
angel from a deleted universe confirmed
and his name will be Porta (see porter beer)

this theory is fucking stupid but I like it

>>160544753
Last week's episode wasn't written by him, dumbass.

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>>160544619
Wrong not that guy FAGGOT

>>160544607
>Goku didn't have a scratch on him
Bruh, no one in this tournament has any scratches on them, Kale took a hit from Jiren and came out looking peachy, Freeza tortured the Sumo wrestling and bat looking guys and they looked fine afterwards.

Anyone who does have any scratches loses them soon after, like Android 18 after fighting that dude who almost ringed her out, her scratches completely vanished. Caulifa's scratches will vanish to come the next episode.

>>160544762
did kale tank any damage from a full power blue blast? No. He didn't use kaioken because he knows it would've done nothing.

You are wrong. Good bye.

>>160544805
>his name will be Porta (see porter beer)
how long until we get Tooheys New?

>>160544742
I for one would love to see Vegeta walk out in full bondage leather and yell "LOOK UPON THE FACE OF YOUR BETTER, KAKAROT!!"

>>160544753

Toshio did episode 99, episode 100 was written by King Ryu.

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>>160544742
Pic related: Goku, fucked up.

Goku having a poker face while being slammed around, then jumping up without a scratch and happily waving at people before freely challenging a powerful foe: not fucked up.

Dumb waifufag.

>>160544705
ALREADY POSTED 3 TIMES STOP RACISM

>>160544794
You're an autist who memes "hints" and "clues" because you're just now learning how social encounters work.

How about the hint that showed him getting slammed to the ground and blasted? or Thrown into the rocks. He got fucked up get the fuck over it.

Tanking something doesn't mean you take no damage, idiot.

>>160544787
Hey m8, do you remember about one week ago, when some assblasted GohanMOD deleted over 50 post from one thread?

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Why is she so perfect?

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>>160544860
>>160544819
>Last week's episode wasn't written by him,
Who's responsible for the travesty off ep 101 then?

>>160544477

if the mutation is so rare how come frost just happens to have the exact same one then??

>>160544887
Has it?
My apologies! But still, it is funny.

>>160544923
That would be me.

>>160544766
Some anons still don't get it tho

>>160544705
We can all be friends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY2gkhpDXPI

>>160544835
the scratches are meaningless as you say, but the clues are in goku's actions. He takes no visible damage from Kale's attacks, doesnt even grimace in pain at all, just straight-up tanks her attacks, this is especially clear when she's doing the whole loki/hulk shtick and it zooms in on goku's "this doesnt hurt and I dont give a fuck" face before he escapes.

On top of everything, he saw that jiren fucked up Kale and STILL wanted to fight him there and then. If he was weaker than Kale he wouldnt be so confident against the guy who easily dispatched her.

The secret is in goku's confidence. Whenever goku is confident like that he's hiding something big.

>>160544916
Kale literally looks better than her.

>>160544942
ye 2 times last thread and post number 9 this one

>>160544884
Goku getting in a position to be slammed around is him fucking up. Kale could've easily thrown him off the ring but she was too autistic to think.

You think he let her do that when in reality he's like daniel cormier clutching his face while jon jones smashes him in the head

>HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR NO DAMAGE TAKEN HE WAS BLOCKING IT xD

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>>160544969
>Kale looks better than this
Are you gayer than Caulifla, by any chance?

>>160544941
flip it around
only one with that rare mutation can be powerful enough to be one of the strongest warriors in the universe and warrant inviting to a multiversal tournament

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>>160544787
Jobhan is a KEK FAGGOT
Chadlifa is gonna show videl what a real sayian is like

>>160544941
Because maybe he is the alternate universe version of him you fucking retard?

>>160543867
Again no, fuck you.

>>160544787
When will Tenshinhan unlock his true power?

>>160544988
Cauliflas hair is fucking horrible for a girl.

>>160544742

what people don't realize is during a fight the fighters are constantly on guard parying and putting up ki shields. That's why none of their clothes ever get damaged unless they're fighting strong enough opponents to break through their energy barriers.

If goku has his guard broken even a weak kamehameha could burn his clothes easily.

>>160544955
>shifting goalposts

First it's "hurr toei didn't draw scratches therefore no damage"

now it's "Hurr goku wanted to fight jiren therefore he is stronger than kale."

But you somehow look at him getting beat up by kale and try to find "clues" and "hints" to fit your confirmation bias.

>>160545057
How do you figure?

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>think it's complete utter dogshit
>watch a hundred episodes of it
It must be doing something right

>>160544976
Goku fucked up by letting Kale grab him, but he wasn't fucked up by her. He could get tossed through some rocks by fucking Yamcha and eat a Wolf Fang Fist if he let his guard down, that wouldn't mean he lost or took any significant damage.

Talking about kaioken, it's hilarious how the writers seem to ignore it's existence at times, as if realising that by introducing into the story when it clearly wasn't in Tori's outline fucks up the scaling and story at times.

Like why does Goku use kaioken against Gohan and yet not against Black and especially Merged fucking Zamasu? It makes no sense.

>>160544902
you could see his facial expressions.

you really are a dumb cunt. Fine, be surprised when goku transforms and you just fuck off and pretend you never made these posts. No accountability for being a dumbass and you just cant admit youre wrong so this discussion is pointless. They added a frame of goku during those slams to specifically show that he was unaffected. He wanted to fight jiren even thougg he was stronger than kale, that doesnt make sense if goku thinks he is weaker than kale.

Youre extremely fucking retarded but this is common from people on the internet who can never admit when theyre wrong and just stop posting and close the thread when they cant get around it. Im sure youll be pretending these posts never happened whem goku without-a-doubt proved his superiority by fighting evenly with jiren

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They said there would be more interesting characters when the tournament of power finally begins.

They SAID CHARACTERS that WEREN'T SAIYANS would FINALLY be RELEVANT AND WE'D GET NEW SPECIES WITH THEIR OWN TRANSFORMATIONS AND FIGHTING TECHNIQUES

THEY SAID THERE WOULD BE BACKSTORIES FOR EACH OF THE UNIVERSES INVOLVED

THEY SAID THERE WOULD BE UNIVERSES WITH FIGHTERS WHO WERE HONORABLE WHO WEREN'T ONE DIMENSIONAL COCKY VILLAINS, ESPECIALLY THE PRIDE TROOPERS THAT WERE STRONG AND RELEVANT AND WOULD GIVE US GOOD FIGHTS, AND NEW CHARACTERS WE COULD CARE ABOUT

THEY SAID THE ANIMATION WOULDN'T BE THAT BAD, THAT SHUEISHA WAS GOING TO SAVE DRAGON BALL SUPER

THEY SAID THAT UNIVERSE 11, 2, 10 AND 3 HAD MORE POWERFUL INHABITANTS THAN 6 AND 7

THEY SAID A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT DRAGON BALL SUPER GETTING BETTER

WHERE ARE WE NOW???

WHERE AAARE WEEE NOOOOOW????

HAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHA

AaaaaaaaH

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAUUUUUURGH

https://youtu.be/4wTcguJZh3A

>>160545087
It's fun, mindless fun, but still fun.

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>>160545001
This. Chadifla is the best girl and will completely dominate JOBhan when they fight.

SS3 Caulifla vs Mystic Cuckhan. Will be an easy win for U6.

>>160545057
She has the best hair in the series for a female, considering half of them have bowl cuts. Get fucked, Gohanfaggot.

>>160545096
he used it against merged zamasu

>>160545057
She has the best hair in the series imo

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SUPAAA DRAAGOOONN BALLLLLL HEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS

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>>160545121
>SS3
Literally the second worst jobber form after Blue

>>160545006

the closest we get to mirror characters outside of freeza/frost are characters of the same race and that's where the similarities between the universes ends.

If what you're saying is true and frost is just an exact mirror of freeza with his same genes and mutations, how come none of the other characters have exact clones like freeza does then?

>>160544884
Here's the thing everyone arguing about this forgets: even if Goku got fucked up by Kale, it doesn't matter now, because the story needed for him to be okay enough to job against the pride troopers.

And after jobbing to the pride troopers, they needed him to be okay enough to fight whatever the next thing is, and so he will be. Just like how they needed to get rid of the fifth pride trooper once her gimmick wore out, so they had her completely forget how to use her power, then gave 18 the ability to lift an entire dimension over her head.

The writers of Super are not operating within the realm of logical story telling. They are operating on a level of shonen horseshit that most shows are mocked for and quickly canceled over. Super has the Dragon Ball name attached to it, so it persists.

Arguing about whether or not [focus character of the week] is stronger than Goku is meaningless, because the answer will always be "Yes, right up until the precise second where we don't need to push this character for Summer Slam anymore". This has happened in every arc so far, and it's not going to stop any time soon. Everyone is going to get their turn being stronger than Goku, but then Goku will surpass them all over again when the writers decide it's time for him to do a cool thing again. This is Super, and that is the kind of show this is.

>>160545068
Guarding doesn't protect your clothes.

No one uses ki shields in dragon ball super except goku vs lavender.

Your argument is wrong. Their clothes dont rip because it's a cartoon and the animators don't want to have to keep drawing them differently.

Tell me something autist, why doesnt his hair sear off when he gets hit by a kamehameha?
Hair folicles are weaker than clothing stiches.

oh right its a cartoon. They don't always draw damage

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>>160545145
>Goku BTFO of kid buu in his SSJ or 2 state

>>160545145
Reminder SS3 has 0% win rate

>>160545162
agreed. The writing of super is so bad, inconsistent and illogical even for an anime.

>>160545179
gotenks won his fight against buu soundly. buu regenerated but he still clearly lost the fight

>>160544690
If any of the universes has a chance of survival or resurrection other than 7, it's fucking universe 6.

Mark my words, U7 gets snuffed out and Hit wins the tournament.
Champa then pays Beerus back by resurrecting U7.

>>160544385
>weeb naming
no thanks, now go away before my Destructo Disk cuts you in half or I'll have to Tri-Beam you out of this thread.

>>160545174
Shut the fuck up retard

>>160545071
that wasnt me, Im a different person so there is no shifting goalpost, though I realize when youre clearly losing an argument that throwing in a logical fallacy makes your argument look better. Youre seriously painfully retarded, at this point I think you know Im right and goku will obviously power up and fight jiren, this much is so painfully obvious I cant understand how anyone doesnt realize it when its in the goddamn OP. The kale fight ends with foreshadowing of the jiren fight, you have absolutely no answer for why goku was so confident against jiren after he dispatched kale. Literlally no argument ans youve ignored this for 3 posts now. But of vourse youre anonymous, know youre wrong, and the only thing preventing our discussion's end is your knowledge that you never have to admit youre wrong when youre anonymous, so at the very least you will continue to try to get the last word and ignore the heavy-hitting points because there is no consequence for your 8 year old behavior.

>>160544753
I dropped Super after the FT arc ended. Do you guys know what episodes he wrote for that arc?

>>160545174
>Hair folicles are weaker than clothing stiches.
Actually wrong, hair is even more dense and durable than nails and bones. Plus its a part of his body so we must assume its super strengthened.

And the real answer is much simpler than that. They cant make the characters fight 100% of the time naked, which is what would happen after the first blast. Sure, db had nudity from time to time, but they wouldnt put nude fights o want the series to be known for nude fights.

As simple as that, fucking autistic faggot.

>>160545174

in battle the characters are always subtly putting up invisible barriers with their energy. That's why goku can suddenly go from tanking punches that could destroy the universe to getting hurt by a rock or laser gun.

Fighters have to be on guard to use their ki to protect themselves or else they can get hurt by anything just like a regular human, including clothes ripping.

>>160545279
the bad ass ptsd ones i hope.

>why teh fuck am i here with cuck gohan
>why the fuck am i here really?
>MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI
>MOOOOOOOOOOM

poor guy.

>>160545230
>Tri-Beam
it's New ki-blast cannon now newfag :^^^^^^)

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So is it confirmed that Kale's not-Broly form is named "Ultra Super" Super Saiyan (USSS, or USSSJ for the SSJfags)?

Are dragon ball wiki pedros eternally btfo for using 'ultra' super saiyan for buff-trunks and buff-caulifla form names?

>>160537756
Nah, he's too popular and following the tradition, Vegeta jobs to the big bad so that mean Jiren or in the worst case scenario Toppo. Next to go is 18, she has to follow her husband as a good Japanese wife. 17 received too much publicity and a huge power up to just lose on the second round, Tenshinhan and Roshi are safe as long as they're around Gohan, same with Piccolo, and Gohan will help Goku against Jiren.

>>160545311
more than half the shit in the frnchise doesn't have a real name beyond a dozen conflicting things the games made up on the spot

I honestly think everyone who watches Dragon Ball has a mental handicap, mostly because they can't understand a simple Japanese punching cartoon for pre-teens.

>>160545311
Yes.

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the only people who like Broly more than Kale are fags

>>160545311
CHADlifla called it "ultra super", so now that's the official name

>>160545353
see
>>160544705

>>160545311
I mean people are still gonna call those buff trunks forms ultra since not everyone is even gonna watch super

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>>160545311
You can also just call it Ultra Super Kale.

So US Kale.

Think she's a patriot?

>>160545353
Yeah, probably.

>>160545179
This dipshit actually forgot about Hirudegarn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnT440UvoFg

Will fans of Dragon Ball have to be treated for PTSD after watching Dragon Ball Super? Will it actually become a diagnosed illness?

>>160545353
Yeah, you're right.

>>160545429
not
canon

>>160544753
The guy who made the tingles episodes. I think he was in charge of all the worst episodes.

>>160542848
Sandy is every female character. Except brianne. That's pearl

>>160545431
Only if you're a pussy.

>>160537756

I doubt he will job this early.
If he jobs before the one and only eternal jobbohan does he has reached a new low.
But I heard it was pretty much confirmed Hit will take care of him, so probably not yet.
Still, we need more Frieza screentime.
Enough with these boring jobmonkeys.

Super is still better than GT

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>>160545417
FREEDOM KALE, SHE NOW FIGHTS FOR MURRICA

Wonder where those mystery fighters are, especially for U6.
They are one of the few teams that go out of their way to save a comrade from being knocked out.
Would think pig man and the two shadows would of showed up already.

>>160545488
if anything vegeta will smash hit

continue being dumb and buying into the red herring that is Hit

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>>160537756
Reminder that Son Goku is beautiful.

>>160545491
Absolutely not, GT was actually great. If Zamasu was in GT, it would've been perfect 10/10 series.

Does anyone think that U4 fighters were stronger than half of the Pride Troopers?

Smug Pup sent 18 to the ground with a kick, Shouza got 2 vs 1d, Nink forced Goku to use Blue.

>>160545491
I don't think it's possible to become worse than the Super 17 arc. Even the purple Vegeta filler was better than.

>>160545542
That's some solid autism right there

>Goku I'm your brother, you're also an alien
>Kill everyone on Earth or I'll kill your son
>Wow, your son saved your life, and now you've got me off-guard
>Wow you won, but my two friends will kill you when they get here
>Okay, Gohan, I will now beat you up and pretend it's training for 1 year
>Oh shit, the other two aliens are here and we can't beat them
>Oh shit, Goku is here and he's strong
>Ok Nappa, you have failed me prepare to die
>Ok Goku, now it's just you and me, let's go to rockland and fight
>Oh no, your son has defeated me, why are you sparing me Goku? Your son beat me fair and square, finish it off now... w-what, you're letting me live? I'll be back to kill you all then.
>Come on brats we have to find the dragon balls so I can be immortal
>What the fuck!? You two used the dragon balls without telling me? Now I'm pissed
>So am I, prepare to die everyone
>What? How is Gohan beating the shit out of Frieza after we all just jobbed to him?
>Thank goodness Goku is here, your son Gohan stalled Frieza long enough for us to live until now
>Frieza, how dare you kill/injure everyone except Gohan now I will kill you
>I'm back as a robot, now to kill Goku
>Who are you, Gohan's best friend? You can't stop me, none of Gohan's friends can be stro-*dies*
>I've come to warn you all about the androids
>Oh look it's cell now
>Oh shit, perfect cell has defeated literally everyone, no one even stood a remote chance of beating him
>Gohan, you must protect life, you are the only one with enough power to defeat cell, I sensed it with my robot sensors. Everyone else combined doesn't stand a chance, only you can defeat him
>But, but I'm perfect, how could I lose to a child? How did Gohan defeat me and save the world?

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>>160545554
U11 are the biggest jobbers in the tournament so far.

The MVP Universe so far has been 6.

>>160545566
Can you explain why super 17 arc was so awful?

t. never seen it

>>160545491
GT had that grand tour arc in the beginning which was absolute garbage, and Super 17 arc was the epitome of cancer, movie villain and all.

>>160545554
Trio de Furries were stronger than the pride jobbers.

>>160545573
>everyone who disagrees with me has autism
do you even understand words you're using? I bet you're American.

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>>160545582
Gohan was truly the main character all along.

He'll win the tournament of power and save the universe again, too.

>>160545608
>>160545566
The Baby arc was the only good arc in GT, the Shadow Dragons arc was shit save for two fights, and the final fight had an asspull conclusion.

>>160545087
I haven't even watched original Dragon Ball or Z, but still follow Super. It's entertaining, and threads are full of memes and shitposting, just like I love it.

>>160545634
So you're autistic and a racist eh?

>>160545586
This. Cauli was right in not thinking much of them.

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>>160545699
>murika is a race
Have Caulifags gone too far?

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Why did this moment upset so many old Dragon Ball fans? Do they not understand that Super is made for Japanese kids?

>>160545699
Your failure to answer my question confirms it. You can't even be racist towards Americans, you're just filth

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>>160545734
I enjoyed it.

The best part of this tourny are 17 and 18 kicking ass. I have waited over a decade for them to fucking do something. At least the otehrs jobbed, the Androids literally existed and then didn't.

I bet Goku feels stupid for never including them in anything now after seeing how fucking strong they are.

Will the Fresh Prince of Job-Air's endgame be the same as always? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbjYuZ_dFT0

>>160544324
"Hitto-san, teach me the toki-tobashi!"
Fixed.

Anyway, what if U6 had their own DB-DBZ-DBS?
>Cabba is the main, travels the universe, eventually brings himself the other two along
>encounter Frost is a namek-esque situation but he instead goes the Vegeta route and befriends them
>Meet Hit while he was in the middle of a mission or something

>>160545726
Well you sure ain't white.

>>160545734
I haven't seen many people upset about it. Seems to me it got a better reception than the events in episode 100.

>>160545743
I'm sorry you follow such a hateful ideology hopefully we can all learn true happiness and unify the human race together one day.

>>160544331
oh god this picture better get updated every time someone gets knocked off

>>160545744
Yep I enjoyed it too.

How long is this arc going to be? We still don't even know all the participants.

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>>160543878
Nip 7 year olds would shit themselves and go into seizures if Toei had the balls to Spopovich Cauli.

fuck off falseflaggers

>>160545804
You're trying to be funny but fail at it completely. Sad.

>>160545230
Destructo disk was tanked in the first episode of the tournament. It clearly doesnt work above certain powerlevel

Literally every arc in Dragon Ball Z is just Goku on the floor almost dead while Gohan defeats every enemy himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVxpXLahZGc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUVTFFPTqTo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XebyKpo6A9s

>>160545853
You even reference Drumpf. I'm so sorry that he is twisting your mind, hopefully one day you'll wake up and realize that we are all humans no matter what our skin color is.

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>>160545291
I think Super overplayed this trope alot.
In OG Dragonball Goku could already withstand sniperfire without taking a scratch from it while not seeing it coming.

How the fuck is No.18 so strong? She was beaten by Cell with ease. How? I don't get it. She should be bottom tier useless.

>>160545591
It's basically a combination of everything that people complain about with Dragonball in general. Been forever since I have seen it (no sane person would ever rewatch it) but it's basically:

>random plot that sounds like filler but actually isn't
>powerlevels all over the place (random example SSJ4 Goku puts up a worse fight agaisnt Super 17 than SSJ Kid Goku does)
>absolute worst animation in all of Dragonball (most of the cast gets beaten in still frames

Someone with a more fresh memory can probably describe it better.

>>160545859
>Destructo disk was tanked
no it wasn't
the bird clearly evaded them

>U9 targets U7
>gets all fighters eliminated
>U11 targets U7 and U6
>gets over half of their fighters aliminated
>U2 targets U7
Are they going to do the same thing yet again? U7 and U6 are fucking steamrolling this. There's no tension.

>>160545734
>Why did this moment upset so many old Dragon Ball fans? Do they not understand that Super is made for Japanese kids?
Episode 100 pissed more people off. But the Job Troopers losing more than half their members in 2 eps when U11 is supposed to be the biggest threat didn't sit well with most people, and now Jiren is just seen as incompetent for not throwing Kale out of the ring. The actual Kale going regular Super Saiyan scene to defend Caulifla and then going Legendary/Berserk while Caulifla went SS2(3?) for a team attack was actually pretty enjoyable.

>>160545734

I think its because the Pride Troopers jobbed. But they werent hyped to begin with outside of Toppo, Jiren and maybe Dyspo.

Trio de Dangers, U4 warriors have better fights than 50% of the Pride Troopers.

>>160545906
you fucked up when you expected consistency. She is as strong as she needs to be, right in that comfortable "strong enough to do anything I write her to do, weak enough to job whenever I want her to job" spot, thats the thought process

>>160545788
weeb I fucking hate you

>>160545906
In case you haven't noticed most of the opponets are barely Super Saiyan tier. 18 could handly a Super Saiyan with ease.

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>>160545815
You got it, bro. Since I'm the one who made it, updates will be done as soon as someone fucks up.

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>>160545906
There are other fighters in the tournament that are weaker than her, simple as that.

>>160545942

It will be U2 and Toppo/Jiren, U7 might lost 1 or 2 fighters at least.

>>160545969
I too also think that 18 never trained between the end of Cell arc till now that would just be ridiculous wouldn't it?

>>160545525

Goku > Vegeta
Hit > Goku

It's not that hard.
Be happy he at least takes care of some shit and does'nt job as hard as jobbohan.

But in any case all saiyans can get ringed out, Frieza is MVP.

>>160545933
Not that one. It was tanked before when the 5 cucks did their best attacks against a single enemy and that enemy tanked it like nothing

>>160545591

just think about it for a second

why the FUCK would bringing some random character like 17 back and fusing him with himself somehow equal or even be a threat to a SS4? That would be like randomly bringing back Captain Ginyu or something and making him as strong as SSB

Even getting past that, super 17 looked nothing like 17, acted nothing like 17, and was just android 17 in name only. His origin story was was the most retarded storyline I had ever heard and the entire Dr. Myu and hell being involved was completely random and stupid.

>>160545985
Current Super Saiyans >>>^10 Android Saga Super Saiyans.

Being a Vegeta fan is just waiting for him to job. Atleast he gets to fight tho

>>160545992
what's more likely is that toei doesnt give a fuck about power level continuity and just makes the characters weak or strong as they please

>>160543215
Well, he's right.
Frieza's enormous potential is a legitimate established trait. No such thing was established for 17. It's lazy writing he got that strong.

>>160546022
it wasn't seen hitting anyone

>>160545734
I'm glad that they're breaking the mold by developing new characters. Better than having Super be the Goku & Vegeta show.
Now I wish they also focused on some of the old characters too. And not the way they shafted Kuririn.