One Piece: Guess the Luffyfags were right. BigMom is BigMeme

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Gross. Die.

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>>159177503
No u

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PedroforNakama CONFIRMED

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>>159177628
>isn't named a strawhat

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>>159177705
Luffy sure thinks so.

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>>159177477
How about we actually have an intelligent discussion about ships relying on panels and cover art and no namecalling. I'll start with the current top ship, LuNa. First point being the King/Queen theme of their relationship, with Luffy being main boss and Nami handling day to day dealings.

>>159177801
>queen
>no crown

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Not giving up until this is translated.I NEED these shipperfaggs to BTFO.

so I want to read good scans of the Viz releases - are those available online anywhere? Or do I have to sign up for their online thingie?

>>159177801
>intelligent discussion
>ships
pick one

>>159177851
Commission it or learn nihongo.

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>>>159177385
Oda doesn't make it obvious. If it looks obvious it is misdirection.
Sanji said Robin has "A mature charm"
What did he mean by that?
Like this for example.
>Sanji has a bouquet of Robins favorite flowers
>two baguettes, Robin loves anything that goes with coffee
>Both Sanji and Robin have luggage, no one else does.
If you look at it from the perspective of Oda who has to hide mature themes. It all makes sense.

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>>159177801
Okay.Ill start.

>>159177477
Does she have any offensive abilities with her fruit or does she just punch things.

>>159178016
How fucking fast have you been reading?

>>159177477
She's using 1000% of her power and she's completely pushed back by just a casual attack from Luffy without even going G4 and Shitji didn't even disintegrate from touching her. You can see the shock and panic on her face, Big Meme is finished, what a fucking joke.

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>>159178000
Nice Trips. But right now relationship is one sided. Will take a scenario foreshadowed by pic related for him to get into it.

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>>159177840
Not all queens wear crowns. She was only one in cover art without armor and since shes sitting right next to him I would say either queen or royal whore. Oda likes Nami too much for her to be royal whore imo.

>>159178040
Right? The way her other hand is cocked all the way back in a mighty fist? She is clearly about to run for her life.

>>159178044

>nami living with a bunch of old men

oh that's foreshadowing alright

>>159177969
You can't beat weaponized autism. I almost believe you. Too bad for you Oda will NEVER confirm it openly even if he does secretly fap to them doing it.

>>159177503
>the toy fruit turns people into toys
ok
>also, they must obey the users orders
alright...
>also everyone who knows the victims completely forgets about them, despite their homes probably being filled with photos and evidence of their existence
oda fucking stop
>also the user looks like a little kid but really she's a legal 22 year old woman :^)
Honest to God I wish Usopp just fucking shot the bitch with a steel ball instead of ruining his cool haki moment with the exact same gag we saw earlier, which was a rehash of Perona in the first place

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>>159178040
>>159178143
No you retards. BM is clearly barely using her strength cause she's smiling and Luffy and Sanji are giving it their all. THIS IS EXACTLY LIKE how Doffy was smiling when turbomanlet tried to lift his leg. Dude was smiling cause he knew he was 1000X stronger than him. And Doffy competely destroyed and BTFO Luffy, which is why he had to run away to Zou.

>>159178289
don't forget the eyepatch-monocle thingie.

>Shipping Nami with guys
You realize the only one's she's canonically shown interest in are women like Kalifa and Tashigi, right?

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>>159178391
Don't forget Reiju. She wants some succ too

>>159178044
Nami is sensible.Shes cried over sanji and Robin.Keep dreaming.

Is there any better feel than being a luffyfag?

>>159178138
Nami is the main female protagonists.Even if she was depicted as a queen(which I don't believe is true)it could be explained by that.Kubo also drew rukia and ichigo as King and queen.Dont read to much into it anon-Kuhn.

>>159178534
Being a Buggyfag, who has the same ally-making ability as Luffy but instead of getting tortured and fighting Yonko he gets to party 24/7 with Alvida and Mr.3

Also, personally sailing with the Pirate King had to be pretty cool

>>159178534
Getting a life.

Why the fuck does Sabo exist? He seems so out of place.

>>159178534
Nope. Whole manga revolves around your character. Literally the best type of characterfag you can be.

>>159178305
What happened to Doffyfags? How salty were they when he got BTFO?

>>159178555
>queen(which I don't believe is true)
Then you are in denial and dumb as shit. She's obviously a queen in that colorspread. No need to be a delirious dunkass that denies reality anon. It's just a colorspread.

>>159178534
Finding hints to support your discoveries

>Reminder that Big Mom is a tranny
Even Oda isn't enough of a hack to just randomly make Sanji start kicking women, right? Right?

>>159178653
I bet you believe nami wearing a crown in other color spreads is also a"hint".I also congratulate you on evading my actual point.This is just sad shipperfagg-kun

>>159178714
He would hit the beast that is Big Mom to save his sister the only relative he cares about.

>>159178534
Being a One Piecefag and like the serie as a whole.

>>159178767
>Implying luffyfags arent also One Piece fags

I get to enjoy my favorite character being a boss AND get to enjoy the entire series.

>>159178740
I never said it was a "hint" you mong. I said that in the colorspread Nami is depicted as a Queen. I'm not that same shipfag I was just calling you out on being retarded. I congratulate you on proving me right.

>>159178714
He kicked her thunder cloud.

>>159178714
He blocked Kalifa's kicks with kicks of his own.

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>>159178534
Being a brookfag

>mfw this whole arc

>>159177477
Sanji such a big fucking hypocrite. Claims to follow Zeff's teachings yet fucks with people's food.

Zeff would have beat Sanji's ass if he saw Sanji serve food filled with spoiled vegetables or broken blades.

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>>159178714
Sanji literally only cares about his "code" when the woman is beautiful.

Misogynist Oda at it once again.

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>>159178534
POST YFW LUFFY KO's BigMeme

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>>159178993

>>159178799
If you don't believe nami wearing a crown in other color spreads is a hint then I apologize.Lunafaggs seem to have the thought that Oda is hinting nami will be pirate queen.I don't think nami is a queen in that colorspread because she isn't wearing a crown.It could mean she is a princess.just my opinion tho.

Luffy is a pretty shit captain.

Just basically ignores Brooke, Nami, and Chopper's opinions like they mean nothing to him at all.

Sanji, too. After fairly drawing straws, Sanji ignores the fact that he drew the straw to guard the Sunny and still ditched his guarding duty to hang out in Dressrosa.

How can you call the Strawhats an actual crew, when Luffy just does what he wants and the only rare times when he listens to someone else is when Zoro calls him out on it?

It's like Luffy can't show any respect to anybody else besides Zoro.

>>159179036
>nami will be pirate queen
I'm a LuNa fag but there's no such thing as a pirate queen. Its more of a symbol for their roles in the ship imo. Which would tie into a romance later on. I just think its cute, thats all. There are bigger aspects of the story imo.

>>159179036
The entire second half of my post was agreeing with you that it was just a color spread and not a """hint"""".

She's definitely a Queen, wearing a crown or not doesn't mean shit go look at pictures of actual Queens in that style of dress. Nami being a princess doesn't make any fucking sense whatsoever because she's older than Luffy and they aren't siblings, it's just your shipfag headcanon interfering with good judgement. It's just a colorspread, stop making excuses or looking for hidden meaning for things other readers are able to determine from simple inference.

>>159178964
When has sanji ever hurt an unattractive women?

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>>159179110
Luffy disobey's Zoro all the time(he told him not to chase after Sanji)

He does what he feels is right in major moments. But does listen to them most of the time. Luffy is literally pussywhipped by Nami most of the time but in major moments he does what he wants. Thats why he's CAPTAIN.

>>159177477
O MY RUBBER FRUIT

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>>159179159
Nami and Luffy have a give-take relationship when it comes to their disagreements, they defer to one another when it counts. This is not a shipfag post btw, this specifically discusses their crew relationship.

One interesting interaction they have is on the Merry after Usopp leaves. Nami is arguing with Luffy on a hammock about the decision he made to fight with Usopp, and after the two of them have a discussion, Luffy convinces her of his resolve and she accepts his reasoning enough to calm down and chastise Zoro and Sanji about it a couple panels later.

Nami often pushes back against Luffy's bullshit but knows when to drop things and support him. Against Enel, she wanted to get everyone and simply abandon the island, but Luffy gave her a speech about wanting to ring the bell of shandora and she was willing to risk her and everyone else's life to support Luffy at that point.

>>159179379
>Luffy gave her a speech about wanting to ring the bell of shandora and she was willing to risk her and everyone else's life to support Luffy at that point.

Thats a great point. And I think we will be getting a moment like that soon where she has to toughen her resolve against BM's forces.

>>159179127
I'm not a shipperfag my friend.I don't think any romance will happen in one piece period.I think shipper look for clues that aren't there to delude themselves into thinking their ship will someday be cannon.I don't think there would be any difference between what a princess would wear and what a queen would wear.I could be wrong but nami not having a crown makes me think she's most likely a princess.I don't think her age difference with Luffy has anything to do with that.Like you said,it's representative of their role in the team.The only people I've heard call nami a queen in this color spread are Lunafaggs.I could be wrong and it's true that it doesn't matter anyway.Its just a colorspread and there are some other color spreads that could be considered pandering to other shippers.Its just my opinion.

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>>159179379
This time he ignores 3 people though. It's disrespectful.

>>159179435
Not really. He rarely brings up the captain card, but a captain has the final word. Most of the time the crew disobeys him(in menial things) and makes him do stuff. But in major moments its his decision that counts. If it wasn't for him making all of his batshit crazy decisions, the crew would never have gotten this far.

>>159179420
You're guilty of over-analyzation of that colorspread so much as any shipfag is.
>she's not a queen because she's not wearing a crown
is as specious a reasoning as
>she's not a princess because she's not wearing a tiara

Like you said we need to stop arguing about it because it's just a fucking colorspread.

>>159179615
>over-analyzation of that colorspread

The thing about Oda which does lead to some legitimacy into analyzing his colorspreads is that unlike other authors he is completely autistic about his work and does tend to include vague things that end up being bigger later on.

Lets settle this once and for all.

Was Sanji justified in beating the shit out of Luffy and insulting him?

Does he need to apologize to the crew?

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>>159177801
Cannon

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>>159179110
>Luffy doesn't always accept his subordinates opinions as fact and is capable of making his own decisions
This is a good thing. Luffy is the captain, a pirate ship is not a democracy.

>>159179746
Jokes on you. I shipped IchiHime.

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What was the origin of this characteR?

>>159179769
But King and queen?

>>159179720
>Was Sanji justified?
No

>Does he need to apologize?
No, Ussop needed to because he refused to acknowledge his wrong doing, Sanji acknowledged it right away

>>159179864
Kubo's not as autistic about his work like Oda so I never took his colorspreads seriously. Whereas with Oda, I think he does include some foreshadowing in them. Plus Inoue was clearly the female lead in the later part of the series and she looked like Ichigo's mom so I thought they would end up together.

For now LuNa seems most likely but I'm not delusional enough to think its the only option. But it will be my favorite ship in OP.

>>159179898
The only thing Sanji acknowledged is that he has no right to come back, then Luffy punched him in the face so he admitted he wanted to regardless.

An apology is in all likelihood still coming after the arc is over.

>>159179898
Sanji acknowledged it but hasn't apologized. I dont think Luffy gives a fuck, but I still think he needs to do it. For his own sake, or else he comes off as a douche.

Big Mom is going to die from diabetes.
Oda will use this chance to have a health PSA about proper diet and exercise.

>>159178305
BigMemers BTFO

>>159179939
Oda could have meant the very same thing Kubo did with that colorspread(male and female protagonist=King and queen of the series).

Did you think narusaku was gonna happen?I think LuNa=narusaku and LuHan=naruhina

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>>159180226
LuNa=NaLu

>>159180226
>Oda could have meant the very same thing Kubo did with that colorspread(male and female protagonist=King and queen of the series).
He could have. But King and Queen implies some sort of romantic relationship so I think Oda went further than Kubo


>Did you think narusaku was gonna happen?I think LuNa=narusaku and LuHan=naruhina

You probably dont believe me but I never thought NaruSaku was gonna happen. Didn't want him with Hinata either cause she was bland(didn't actually ship Naruto with anyone cause all options were shit). It was because Naruto was behaving wayy to similar to Sanji(always lusting after Sakura/Nami(all femlaes)) And Sakura was clearly on Sasuke's dick. Whereas with OP, I think that Luffy is oblivious whereas Nami is showing subtle hints that she's romantically interested.

Only ship I didn't want that happened was Chi-Chi/Goku. Since Oda is influenced by DB he may very well head in that direction which is why I'm not 100% sure LuNa is gonna happen. However it makes better sense as a romance than LuBo imo because Nami understands Luffy's character far better than her and vice versa. And given how she's shown to cover Luffy's weaknesses(acting as support character, taking care of his day to day life, even being shown to cook) whereas Luffy protects her it makes more sense.

But again I'm not crazy about it and do accept the chance that it wont happen, but think that Oda has solid ground to include a romance between them that seems genuine(LuBo is not genuine imo) so I think he will probably head down that road eventually.

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>>159180304
Don't watch fairy tail but if you want to compare then gokuX chichi beats all(especially since Oda took direct inspiration from DB)

>>159177969
>Baguettes go well with coffee

>>159180226
>>159180304
>>159180407
>>159180444
>shipping discussion
My fucking sides.

>>159180444
>Oda took direct inspiration from DB
What shounen mangaka can you say doesn't these days?

Goku x Chichi means hancock is BTFO though because unlike Goku, Luffy knew what marriage was and explicitly rejected her.

Comparing OP to other manga is fucking retarded but Fairy Tail is much closer of a story than Bleach and Naruto. FT is openly accused of copying OP all over the internet. I mean, FT literally has its own Shanks.

>>159180451
Honestly what the fuck doesn't a good baguette go with?

Bread and rice is the sustenance of civilization my friend.

>>159180407
>And Sakura was clearly on Sasuke's dick.
And Sasuke literally told Sakura just how much he hated her on at least three different ocations verbally

>>159179781
He'll fix the tea party, just you wait.

>>159180566
So? She still lusted even after that. Just proved to me that she didn't give a fuck about Naruto and they would never end up together.

>>159180522
Good way to kill time tho.

>>159178964
Kureha and Kokoro tho

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>>159180531
Fairy Tail has its own Bartholomew Kuma as well. Almost a 1:1 ripoff.

>>159179110
Kek, remember when he heads straight for Doffy's palace and fucks Viola's plan.
Zoro's reaction Is priceless.

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So are Luffy and Robin stepsiblings or what? Makes sense considering how she's acting a lot more like a big sister since the TS. Dragon could have revealed himself to be her father.

>>159178928
Fucking this, feels good to be a skelebro

>>159180545
Yeah, but you wouldn't eat rice with coffe. Sweets go well with coffee, maybe even fruits. Bread doesn't, unless it's some kind of sweet bread, or you put jam, butter or something on it.

>>159180604
It proved that nothing matters because it was only written that way with a sequel in mind. I don't care what you want to believe but one-sided crushes do not work.

>>159180407
I don't think we're heading down the right rode here.We can't really complair relationships from different writer and think they have the same intent.Oda has stated he doesn't care who Luffy ends up with and I think that is seen in his writing.Oda isn't writing a big love story between nami and Luffy imo.Stating it makes more sense doesn't matter because manga(especially shone not)isn't realistic at all.I haven't seen any hints nami is leaving she's interested in Luffy.I think the same signs could be attributed to any other girl Luffy saves in the manga.I believe that's odas way of writing.And since I'm sure your the other person I'm replying too(King and queen color spread),i think it's because you want Luna to happen that you say Oda must have meant for it to have a stronger meaning then Kubo did.Imo I don't think couples will happen.Luhan won't happen and Luna won't happen.Nami wearing a crown in some color spreads don't mean anything regardless of how autistic you think Oda is.If you want Luna to happen then go on ahead but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

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"Luffy-san.. WHAT HAVE YOU BECOME?"- Shanks after Luffy kills Kaido

>>159180889
But I thought Brook ate the Yomi Yomi no Mi

"SANJI...WAS MY NAKAMA!" - Luffy upon reaching Gear 5 Super Monkey Fuck after Big Mom made Sanji explode

>>159180850
>but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

I'm not though. I know theres a chance it wont happen and actually do care a lot more about the main story.

Its just that Oda strikes me as the kind of writer who would want romance--should he include it--to make sense. Of course the entire story isn't a big romance but he has laid a solid ground of true friendship between Luffy and Nami, whereas that cant be said for any other female character(not even Vivi). So should he want to head in that direction for an ending I think he can do so with LuNa(what else is love but friendship taken to the next level?).

And since Oda is clearly making One Piece as a giant Epic, I think it would do a disservice to that genre by not including romance in it as well for the protagonist. Doesn't have to be crazy but just a little bit would be good. And that would go along with Oda saying he doesn't care much about romance. For me personally I enjoy that ship cause it would enhance the story and make it feel more complete but I do understand why people dont want it included at all.

>>159181021
>kind of writer who would want romance
On fucking NPCs, you stupid shippingtard.

>>159181065
>kind of writer who would want romance
He's definitely warmed up to the idea since TS. Why else would he include Kryos/Scarlet, Baby-5/Sai, SenorPink/hiswife, Chopper-getting-boner-for-milky, Sanji/Pudding(though it may not happen). I don't see why its a stretch to extend that idea eventually for Luffy as well. There are ways to do so without it overshadowing the entire plot and may actually enhance the story by raising the stakes for Luffy.

No need to get so angry at a simple suggestion.

>>159180676
Obviously he didn't have a reason to kick them but if he did, he wouldn't have hesitated for a second.

>>159181015
people here really hate sanji gee

http://www.strawpoll.me/13321030

Obligatory "who will join?" poll.

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>>159181183
>try to kick Kureha
>die
U wot m8.

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>>159181286
>Carrot

Absolutely disgusting.

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>>159181286

>still not obvious

>>159181547
Sorry buddy. He's gonna escape with Bege while rest of the crew stay behind. He's gonna join Bege's crew.

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>>159181568
Oda knows better than to throw away Solid Gold: The Character like that. Why do you think he had Caesar reverse the poison gas on Zou? Kaidou has more of that shit and you know it.

CC ain't goin anywhere.

>>159181568

lmao, if he's not a strawhat he's joining judge

>>159181595
Who's to say Bege wont join the SH's in Wano. Or that there isn't another way to take out Kaido's poison gas. Given his character I dont think he's gonna stay behind and Bege doesnt give a fuck about the SH's so he's gonna wanna escape as well. And considering that the crew is taking up all the attention of the BM pirates, seems like they will likely escape and GTFO. In which case, he doesn't join.

>>159181595
And CC is funny in the same way Buggy is. As a good side character, not meant to be with the SH's cause he's too nasty of a person.

>>159181611
Considering Bege has his heart and that CC is useful, I would say he would wanna keep him.

>>159180531
luffy is much more inspired by goku then any other anime character.I don't see the relevance in bring up fairy tail.What makes you think Oda is gonna get inspiration from a frequently trashed manga?

>>159181143
I see most of those as gags.Its true there is more"romance"in one peace post TS but for the most part they revolve around side characters.These examples also would make sanjiXnami more plausible since they are similar gags.

I don't think sanjiXpudding will happen either.If it does then I'll agree with you on Luna but I think pudding will be a viola 2.0 and nothing will happen there.

>>159181809
How are Kryos/Scarlet and SenorPink/Wife gags? How is Sanji/Pudding a gag? Besides Chopper and Baby5 most of what I mentioned were not gags at all.

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>>159181734
>I don't see the relevance in bring up fairy tail
I don't see the relevance in bringing up Naruto and Bleach but shipfags do it constantly. Point is Fairy Tail is more similar to OP than those two manga and more similar as a whole than OP is to DB.

FT is all about nakama power just like OP and has a metric fuckton of other similarities to OP at the same time. And whether you trash it or if it's a good manga or not doesn't matter because it's popular and a commercial success and blatantly shares elements with OP.

>>159177851
>I hear female fans ask me to draw more romance. If you want to read that kind of story just read a shoujo manga, that's not my job.
wew

>>159179110
His own crew agrees that he's a shit captain, they're just too deep into Luffyland to get out, also they actually enjoy having such a captain since it gives them freedom that they wouldn't have in a more strict crew. Then again the entire crew are a bunch of braindead morons most of the time except for Nami, Robin and Usopp, the rest are hopeless idiots in about everything that is not their speciality.

Also Luffy doesn't give a fuck about anyone's opinion but his own.

>>159181568
>Join Bege
While I expect this, it seems funny how they have been carrying CC since Punk Hazard happened. I would be ok with him continuing as side character until Oda gets bored

>>159181847
kryos/scarlet and senior pink/wife were side characters so I don't take them all that serious.I take odas comments on shipping and deaths in one piece to be related to the main cast.Sure,characters have died more recently post TS but that doesn't mean anyone important will be killed.

I don't agree puddingXsanji should be included in that list so I didnt count them.Like I said earlier,I consider pudding to be a viola 2.0 and not have a romance with sanji.My question to you is,if pudding doesn't end up with sanji,do you believe Sanami will be canon?i don't because Oda
Said there wouldn't be romance in one piece but all your arguments could apply to them with Hancock being luffys love interest.

>>159182008
With some lies here and there but so far I believe he does listen to Jimbei as an equal

>>159182039
>,if pudding doesn't end up with sanji,do you believe Sanami will be canon?!

If theres a fight between Nami and Pudding where Nami hints at her feelings for Sanji, then yes I actually would. However plotwise it would make sense for Pudding/Sanji to end up together at the end because the entire arc was centered on their wedding. You're right that it may just be Viola 2.0 but unlike Viola's case, she didn't have an entire arc backing her pairing with Sanji.

Speaking of Senior Pink - do people really think his backstory is that sad? It seems rather cookie cutter to me. It could be a parody if it wasn't so bland. And yeah, it explains his design, but that doesn't mean his design isn't a bit too much on the silly side.

>>159180781
>So are Luffy and Robin stepsiblings
>Dragon could have revealed himself to be her father.
That'd make them half-siblings, halfwit.

>>159181869
I brought up bleach because I wanted to show that the king/queen symbol didn't necessarily mean there was intended romance.I brought up naruto because i know Oda reads it and has a relationship with Kishi.

I don't think Oda has any interest in fairy tail.I think that Oda would be much more likely to be inspired by naruto or dragon ball then by fairy tail.Oda has copied things from other mangas and media before(Jojo,GOT,the godfather and recently the power rangers) but it doesn't matter if fairy tail copies one piece as long as you don't see Oda copy fairy tail.

>>159182039
>Said there wouldn't be romance in one piece but all your arguments could apply to them with Hancock being luffys love interest.

I also said that was a very good possibility. However it doesn't make a compelling romance imo because Hancock is too comically in love with Luffy, like that of a teenage child. Whereas with Nami, we as readers have seen them together for decades and they have seen each other go through some of their toughest moments. No other female character understands Luffy to the point of Nami, whereas the same is true from Luffy's standpoint(given his godlike ability to understand people). There is enough "strong friendship" moments between the two for Oda to escalate it into genuine romance whereas for Hancock, there isn't. And if Oda does want to include romance it would be far easier to create a compelling one between Luffy/Nami rather than Hancock.

If Oda decides to go along with Hancock though, it would be a gag romance. Which in my opinion would be a mistake like we learned from Chi-Chi/Goku. Since Oda wants his story to be as complete as possible I think that should he include romance, it is far more likely with Nami than other female characters.

>>159182081
Everyone is an "equal" to Luffy, he's had anything from dogs to gods as rivals or enemies and has stated that he doesn't care about titles or whatever.

I guess hanging out with the likes of Zoro and Sanji who are as willing to go into as fight as Luffy for the sake of a meaningless argument has given him the skill of listening to people, specially those he trusts (like Jimbei) but in the end he doesn't give a fuck about anyone's opinion but his own.

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How cute is my skeleton?

>>159182274
Appearance-wise, not at all

However, he makes up for it with his personality

>>159182090
>"Pudding, once we find All Blue and Luffy is Pirate King I will come back here. When that moment comes, tell me if we should honor today's vows or not"
Something like that could be the ending of this arc

>>159182348
That would actually be nice. But I think that Pudding will end up leaving with the SH crew. Where else would she be able to go considering the circumstances?

>>159182090
I don't think this arc was backing pudding/sanji at all.I think this arc was about sanji realizing how important his friends are and beating his demons.My thoughts are that pudding will travel with Capone and his crew and choose her own husband.I believe she will help the straw hats because sanji was kind to him(just like viola).

The thing I don't understand is how can you require a hint or nami liking sanji when the isn't one of her liking Luffy.Once again,I don't care about shipping.I just don't see the logic in shipping two characters that have nothing apart of friendship.

>>159182348
Alternately, Pudding could go off on her own to pursue her own path in life without Big Mom's rule, in addition to trying to find romance. Eventually ending up back with Sanji towards the end of the series. I still think her thrid eye powers could have a part to play later on, given the uniqueness of the ability to read poneglyphs.

>>159182404
She could go look for Lola.

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>>159182212
>I think that Oda would be much more likely to be inspired by naruto or dragon ball then by fairy tail
Well you are wrong. Oda likely respects and derives inspiration from FT and Mashima just as much as he respects and derives inspiration from other manga and mangaka, especially those also published in Jump.

Comparing x and y but not x and z because of what you think the author befriends, believes or does is retarded.

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is law the best fictional character?

>>159182508
If by best you mean worst, then yes

>>159182550
let me guess, your a zorofag?
sit the fuck down son.

>>159182508
Hmm? Is that Laulio, nakama of Gastino?

>>159182571
No I'm not

>>159182478
That doesn't make any sense.There is no reason to believe Oda even cares about fairy tail.You writing a fanfic of Zoro/nami won't influence Oda at all,especially if he doesn't even read it.

>>159182478
Why would Oda respect and be inspired by a terribly written trash ripoff built on the most common denominator shonenshit?

Try Boku no Hero if you want an author who was blatantly inspired by Oda and who Oda actually knows about.

>>159182415
>I don't think this arc was backing pudding/sanji at all.

I would disagree. Both Sanji and Pudding's backstories are shown to be very similar(both are black sheep of their families and were bullied). Sanji chose to marry her and was genuinely crushed when she rejected him. And he's gotten rejected many times by other women. Similarly Pudding was genuinely moved when Sanji complemented her eye(no one had done that before) and the panel when Sanji catches Nami with Pudding's reaction can be seen as jealously. It makes sense plotwise to develop her character from someone who despised Sanji to one that genuinely fell in love with him through the course of an entire arc.

Since we all came into this with no expectation that Sanji would actually end up married, it would make sense plot-wise to end it in a way where Pudding and Sanji actually fall in love whereas both had no intention of doing so.

>>159182452

I think that the SH crew will be the only ones who would be able to safely lead Pudding out of Totland. And since they will likely not be making any stops till Wano, it makes sense that Pudding would join them imo. Don't really see how she can get out of Totland without the help of the SH crew. Bege seems to be on his way out given that Luffy, Sanji and Vinsmokes are holding off the BM pirates so I see SH's as the only people Pudding can escape with.

>>159182623
>They escape
>Luffy marries them with his captain authority
>The classic post-arc party is now a wedding celebration
m8 b cool

>>159177477
She's going to eat Luffy and he'll eat her from inside.

>>159182620
FT is a lot more similar to OP than Boku no Hero. Or Naruto, or Bleach.
>>159182611

If you guys don't think Oda pays attention to or cares about his contemporaries and their work then you are dumb as fuck. Whether FT is actually a good manga or not is absolutely irrelevant and honestly I dropped it around 100 chapters in.

>30 people voted carrot to join the crew
cancer

>>159182730
That would be pretty awesome. And a change of pace from the usual celebrations.

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>>159182756
Its up to this BASED Jaguar and him alone to save us from that menace.

>>159182623
Sanji only agreed to marry pudding because he had no other option.When he talks to reiju after finding out about pudding he states that he was sacrifing himself for his friends when he agreed to the wedding.He never loved pudding he only did it for his friends.I know your baised(I know you would admit it)but the same reasons you gave for pudding ending up with sanji could apply for Hancock.Think about it.Both of them were evil until someone came and showed them their worth(sanji told her her third eye was beautiful and Luffy said he didn't care if Hancock was a former slave).In fact,LuHan makes more sense since Luffy spent two years with hancock(more then nami)while sanji has know pudding less than a week.

I don't think Capone will accompany the straw hats to wano so I do think pudding will be leaving with him.

>>159182623
>Don't really see how she can get out of Totland without the help of the SH crew.
Much of that depends on the coming events and the role she potentially plays in them. It would make sense, should she choose to aid Sanji and the alliance, that she would go with them. Where she went after the escape being entirely up in the air of course, but likely not directly traveling with the Straw Hats. If she decided to stay where she is though, she could feasibly use her powers later to find a way out, albeit I would expect the much more likely scenario, if she does help, for her to tag along for the escape.

As for escaping, there's always Sanji himself as an option. It could make for one of those cheesy 'prince in shining armor' moments where he sky walks off the main island whilst carrying her in his arms.

>>159182786
he was so based this arc. i seriously hope he joins

>>159182730
>>Luffy marries them with his captain authority
That'd make for a pretty damn amusing setup. Luffy just deciding he wants to marry them, then expecting Sanji to bake him a wedding cake for his effort.

>>159182847
Fleet member at best, he's too similar to some of the exisiting members of the crew to really stand out, even if he is enjoyable and has been a great addition to the temporary crew this arc.

>>159182754
Are you autistic anon?FT is similar to OP because FT RIPPED OFF OP.Oda didn't have anything to do with the similarities between the two of them.The day Oda takes something unique from FT and adds it to OP is the day you are right.Until then you are deluding yourself if you think Oda will write LuNa because of FT.

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>>159182828
>LuHan makes more sense since Luffy spent two years with hancock
No. She visited him once in a while. If you count the total number of days and the variety of situations they encountered Nami would beat her hands down.

>>Both of them were evil until someone came and showed them their worth
Beyond my original reasoning, same thing applies to Nami. As she was willing to backstab Luffy and other pirates until Luffy came along and saved her from her situation. Also we as readers have seen Nami and Luffy far more together, which would make a romance make more sense for them imo.


>but the same reasons you gave for pudding ending up with sanji could apply for Hancock

The reason I gave was that an entire arc was given to build up their romance whereas for the main character it would be the entire story. Which Nami has, whereas Hancock doesn't.

>Sanji only agreed to marry pudding because he had no other option
He was always against marrying her but after hearing her express concern and saying they shouldn't get married, Sanji decided to go for it. He was truly in love at that moment and his reaction to Pudding's betrayal proves it.

>When he talks to reiju after finding out about pudding he states that he was sacrifing himself

Why would Sanji want to reveal his feelings for Pudding to Reiju? It makes him come off as weak so it makes sense that he would want to hide it.

>>159182894
Yeah despite Pedro being a real bro I still think he is just going to reform his Nox pirates(and take Carrot with him, pls Goda) and become a fleet member.

>>159182906
>Until then you are deluding yourself if you think Oda will write LuNa because of FT.
I was making fun of you when I said that dumbass. And the slap scene with Grey I posted is very similar to when Nami slaps Sanji, enough so to where it's plausible Oda got inspiration from that scene.

>>159182894
Its his similarities and contrast to Jimbe. Sun/Moon. Jaguar/Mink. Both stood up to BM. Both former captains. That make me think that we will be getting a two for one deal with Jimbe/Pedro.

>>159182935
>but after hearing her express concern and saying they shouldn't get married, Sanji decided to go for it.
To be fair, the situation was meant to display just how limited his options feasibly were at that point. He had given up hope of getting out and going back to the Straw Hats and was resigned to his fate, looking to make the best of it with Pudding who he clearly liked a lot at that point; given his seeming earlier admission than he'd like to marry Pudding when she first meets the Straw Hats. Albeit she could have been lying during that entire conversation, given that we learn later of her acting skills, but I choose to believe that much of what she said was true.

>>159182991
He's simply too similar to Sanji and Zoro to really have a spot on the crew, he doesn't offer enough to really bother giving him a spot. Again, perfect choice for fleet member with the reformed Nox pirates, but poor choice for direct Straw Hat.

Imagine caring about ships

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>>159183084
Reminder that this is the fate of shipfags

God you shippers are fucking incorrect faggots as usual. Here are the APPROVED ships for each Straw Hat, ranked in order of best SH to worst SH:

Franky - Robin
Usopp - Kaya & Viola (polygamous marriage)
Robin - Franky
Luffy - Reiju
Brook - Laboon
Zoro - Perona
Chopper - Wanda
Nami - Vivi
Sanji - Literally anyone, he just needs to commit to one woman rather than being an obnoxious faggot every time a female appears. Pudding is the most readily available option here given Nami is gay, however he can get with Ivankov for all I care.

>>159183053
>He's simply too similar to Sanji and Zoro to really have a spot on the crew, he doesn't offer enough to really bother giving him a spot.

Thats done on purpose imo. Jimbe is very similar to Zoro as well. As Pedro is meant to parallel Sanji.

Jimbe fits in with Zoro's japanese theme, eye scar(jimbe has scar over his eye), and love of sake.

Pedro has hair like Sanji's and covers his eye. And he smokes just like Sanji. And wears western style clothing.

I think these are purposeful design choices to set up either a rivalry like Zoro/Sanji or a deep friendship. To contrast the relationship that they would share with that of Zoro/Sanji.

>>159183084
Is it really that much worse than caring about the plot of a childrens cartoon?

>>159183128
>and love of sake.

I wish Zoro drank proper alcohol. I feel like his manliness is diminished by the fact that he drinks the Japanese equivalent of a fruity vodka drink.

>>159183165
Sake has decent alcohol content though.

>>159183165
I'm a teetotaler but isn't sake just the vodka of Japan? From what I understand it's just alcohol made from rice.

>>159183188
So do some fruity vodka drinks. They're still feminine as fuck though.

>>159183212
They're feminine because they're sweet. Sake is pretty manly cause its kind of bitter and hard to take down(for newbs)

>>159182863
I mean it would be hilarious, they went there to get back Sanji and crash the wedding if necessary yet we could have Luffy himself marrying them nevertheless

>>159182947
Not that guy, but come on. "Girl slapping guy who's behaving like a villain" is certainly not unique to fairy tail.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GetAHoldOfYourselfMan

>>159177477
Big Mum bout to get Plus Ultra'd

>>159183220
What the fuck are you talking about? Every sake I've ever had has been sweet. I WISH it were bitter because I fucking hate sweet things (I can't even eat candy).

>>159182847
He gonna die tho. I don't think is possible to get soul back from big meme

>>159183242
There is way more context than that in the scene, anon. Most of the tropes that Oda uses in his manga copied by FT aren't unique to OP either because all art constantly builds upon earlier artistic works.

I'm not even the one defending that retarded "comparing manga" shit. I initially set out on this to make the point that comparing manga like that is fucking stupid and that the shipfags need to stop bringing up Naruto and Bleach.

>>159182935
The only reason sanji was so distraught when finding out about pudding was because she was"his last ray of light".Sanji knew he couldn't escape from his situation and had to make the most of it,that's the only reason he agreed to the marriage.This was repeatedly shown when he had to pull himself into perv mode after his proposal.He didn't want to think about how terrible his life was and tried to convince himself he could still have a happy life(something he can't do because he keeps thinking about his friends in the scene with the bento).Thats what makes him finding out about pudding upsetting.Sanji basically found out that he had no way of escaping.Sanji basically told reiju what Oda had been hinting at the whole time.I think saying sanji isn't telling reiju the truth is going against what Oda was trying to convey in that scene imo.

We can't know how long Luffy and Hancock interacted those two years.It seems like a lot of speculation but you could definitely write what you wrote about Luffy and nami with Hancock and Luffy.Thats my point.It doesn't matter what's more healthy as a couple when it comes to manga.Whatever the author wants is what goes.Regardless if it makes sense or not in real life.i really don't see Oda going down that road and if he does because other people pressured him into it would just suck imo.

>>159183263
Depends on what type of sake you have though. Junmai and Ginjo types aren't sweet at all whereas Honjozo type is.

And manliness in drinks is kind of stupid imo. Why should someone drinking smirnoff ice make him feminine? Just seems very contrived and pointless

>>159183113
Brook and Laboon is OTP

>>159183320
>junmai
>ginjo
>honjozo

Well I guess I'll take your word for it because you clearly know more about sake than I do. But every sake I've had in both Australia and Japan has been sickeningly sweet.

>Why should someone drinking smirnoff ice make him feminine?

I suppose it's the stereotype. The only time I see anyone actually pursuing sweet drinks, they're young girls who think alcohol is icky and want to mask the taste. So whenever Zoro, or Shanks, or Whitebeard mention that they're drinking sake they immediately remind me of loud, screeching, 16 year old girls who got into the bar without being ID'd.

>>159182947
You were trolling?Good,you had me worried for a sec...

>>159183382
>alcohol is icky and want to mask the taste
So then are there really people who enjoy the taste of alcohol? I thought the idea was you just powered through the repulsive taste and burn. Or is that what you mean by the "manliness" of a drink, just not giving a fuck that it's awful?

>>159183404
Nice argument dumbass. And you might want to learn to add spaces after your punctuation because I know you're the late night SaNafag because of your syntax.

>>159181956
Brutal.

>>159180889
It would be great if Shanks intervened when Luffy confronts him.

>>159183317
>We can't know how long Luffy and Hancock interacted those two years.It seems like a lot of speculation but you could definitely write what you wrote about Luffy and nami with Hancock and Luffy

Not really. Rayleigh specifically told her not to come because it was hampering with Luffy's training so I doubt she visited him often. The point is that we as readers have seen Luffy with Nami far more, and that Boa is too clouded by her infatuated state to ever see Luffy for anything other an object of lust. Which is why Nami is the female character who understands Luffy's character the most. Same cant be said of Hancock so that point cant really be taken by her character.

My original point was that IF Oda decides to include romance for Luffy, it would make much more sense to do it with Nami than with Hancock--given he actually wants to make the romance compelling and not a gag. That is because we as readers have seen a lot more moments where their relationship is tested than with Hancock.

Oda could make an arc focusing on Luffy and Hancock to make up for that but that would use up too many chapters and panel space imo. And this would align with Oda's statement of not making romance a priority. He wouldn't need to do much to expand on Luffy and Nami's relationship at all.

But he could just decide not to pursue that at all which makes sense but I would be disappointed because to me an epic isn't completed without a resolution in that department. We know Luffy isn't asexual given by Oda's comment that he was "interested" in women, so would be nice to see who he ends up with.

>Ctrl+F Usopp
>No mention of Nami+Usopp
I will be backstage laughing, thanks /a/

>>159183472
I enjoy the taste of rum mixed with diet coke, straight whiskey, and dry beers.

I am legitimately an alcoholic though so it's entirely possible that my enjoyment of the taste is less about taste buds and more about psychological relief.

Having said that plenty of my friends enjoy wines, whiskeys, and beers, and they aren't alcoholics.

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>>159183578
>Rayleigh specifically told her not to come because it was hampering with Luffy's training so I doubt she visited him often.
This, but that didn't stop Toei from making 3D2Y.

>>159183643
Nami+Usopp is already canon. Bet you don't see much Shanks+Makino discussion either.

>>159183685
>but that didn't stop Toei from making 3D2Y.
Which doesn't matter at all as it isn't part of the manga.
Also Usopp has Kaya you dumb shit.

>>159183723
>Which doesn't matter at all as it isn't part of the manga.
But my first word was that I agree with you. My point was more that additional story and retcons can be shoehorned into that 2yr gap. Either by Toei or Oda it doesn't really matter.
>Also Usopp has Kaya you dumb shit.
Why do you hate memes? What did they ever do to you?

>>159183472
>I thought the idea was you just powered through the repulsive taste and burn
Nah. I personally enjoy the taste, if it is mixed wkth the right stuff. Just like spicy stuff. Nobody likes wasabi by itself, but if you put it on the right food it tastes good.
I wanted to make a few examples of highly alcoholic stuf that I personally enjoy, but I realised halfway through that they're mostly typical of my country, so I guess it'd be useless.
Not yhe anon you were replying to, by tbe way

>>159183806
>Why do you hate memes?
I fought in the meme wars. Lost a lot of good friends in those days.

>>159183578
Posts like this are the proof that women can be autistic in the actual sense

>>159183865
I'm a dude tho. But still am autistic so you're about half right.

>>159183907
This doesn't fucking add up faggot.

He had a 50% chance of guessing your gender correctly, and a 50% chance of guessing your autism correctly, which adds up to 100%, and somehow he's still wrong?

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>>159183999
I DO. POWER LEVEL DISCUSSION TIME RATE MY AUTISM POWER LEVEL CHART

From strongest to weakest:

Luffy
Zoro
Sanji
Franky
Robin
Brook
Usopp
Chopper
Thousand Sunny
Going Merry
Nami

>>159184030
>Mihawk and fit Moria
Top kek.

>>159184030
Base Luffy Underrated
Boa Hancock Overrated
Zoro is how you can tell this is a joke
Bege Overrated
Buggy ovverrated
Sanji underrated
Enel overrated
Cavendish underrated

Rest are surprisingly accurate.

>>159184030
Enel should be top row or above.

Big Mom's fruit is actually pretty shit, when you think about it. Considering how absurdly strong she was even without it, she'd do better with a Zoan fruit to amplify that strength.

>>159184030
Switch Zoro and Friendly Old Person. Otherwise chart is perfect.

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>>159177477


Daily reminder that BigMeme is going down

anyone else wanna migrate to 8ch's one piece thread? it's too empty to go there by myself but i wanna get away from these cancerous threads

>>159184834
How about you go and take all the cancer with you? Do it for us.

>>159184834
You can go dude. Its still pretty comfy here for me.

>>159177801
Robin/Luffy would be hot.

>>159184888
Older women with younger guys is top tier.

>>159184888
PLS

dead

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>>159183084

http://www.strawpoll.me/13330123
who has been this arc's star?

>>159184888
I hope Oda will go with this at the end and fuck over some shipperfags.

>>159187266
Definitely Brook.

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>>159187266
Who voted for Carrot? Fucking Carrotfags, I swear.

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>>159187266
Brook without question
>teamed up with based pedro
>stole all the poneglyphs
>went one on one with big mom
>literally slept with big mom
>broke caramels photo
>gets head chopped off
>still doesn't give a fuck

also lets not forget:

>is brook

you can't get much more based than that.

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So who's ready for when Luffy finally forms an alliance with the only man who can truly go up against Big Mom?

>>159188138
and who would that be?

>>159183472
SaNafag?I don't know what your talking about.

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>>159182293
>brook's appearance
>not a complete fucking pimp
get your eyes checked anon

>>159183113
>usopp - viola
where did that come from? also i always thought usopp x perona was better than zoro, zoro and her have more of a squabbling siblings thing going on
also lil chops is for milky

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>all princesses have pink hair
>she has pink hair and a crown

i bet she'll have a more significant role later on at the Reverie
g0da the epiq foreshadow lord does it again

>>159189142
Ghost Queen.

>>159188434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVg5QqJoxuU

>>159189142
her epiteth is ghost princess...

I miss Zoro

>>159189219
>>159189351
you looked at the wiki i bet
fags

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>>159189142
>all princesses have pink hair
What did you mean by this?

>>159189426
Vivi is going to be Queen, that's why she isn't pink.
Also, LuVi is OTP.

>>159189422
i'm not a speedreader, so no.

>>159189422
To impress someone on /opg/? I have better things to do.

>>159183578
I seriously don't know how to respond to you anymore.You keep writing about one piece as if it were a shoujo with Oda basically deciding on LuNa because they are the main characters and Spend a lot of time together.Personaly I think it makes more sense if Luffy ends up with Hancock because Oda seems to make romance into a gag.Making LuNa into a couple would feel wrong to me.Ive always seen them as siblings who fight a lot but care about each other.Its the same thing with the rest of the straw hats.Theyre all one big family and any romance between them wouldn't make"more sense"to me.

Unless something big changes in Luffy and Nami's relationship I won't see them as anything more then friends.I don't believe there have been ANY hints of them being anything more then that so far and we also have Oda saying he doesn't care about who falls for Luffy in his strong world interview.

http://www.thegrandline.com/odanon.htm

If sanji/pudding happens then I'll believe in Luna but until then I'll believe Oda.

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Year of Jinbe 's death

Every arc we have fleefags who say Luffy is going to flee because he wasn't strong enough to fight the arc villain.

I don't ship it but there is a little evidence that Luffy will end up with Vivi.

LuNa will probably be the one to succeed, though.

>>159191389
Dumb Luffyfag

>>159191389
This. Escapefags are dumb as shit, if not for the birdcage they would have been insisting that Luffy & Co would flee to allow Kaidou to handle Doffy during Dressrosa.

>>159191630
>Big Mom got introduced
>Let's make her job

Dumb fucking retard

>>159191389
Huh? Not in FI. Not in PH. Not much in Dressrosa. Not in Zou. Only in WCI because of a good damn reason.

>>159191905
Big Mom got introduced like 200 chapters ago faget. Why don't you compare Crocodile to BM cause you fags would have been saying Luffy couldn't win then too.
>warlord got introduced
>let's make him job

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>>159177477
>>159177565
>>159178040
>>159178534
>>159178618
>>159178993
>>159178790
>>159184756
>>159191389
When will you get this though your thick skulls, Luffyfags? Luffy isn't ready to take down Big Mom this arc. Germa isn't strong to take her down. The Alliance isn't strong to take her down. There won't be any asspulls like GEAR 5 MONKEY GOD ASSCRACK or PUDDING WILL ERASE HER MEMORIES to help them.

Luffy barely managed to defeat Cracker and you think he's prepared to bring BM down?! Fuck that noise.

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>>159192112
Damn if only there was some quirk of Big Mom's that could be exploited that would allow the alliance from having to fight her directly.

There will be nothing more satisfying than seeing you dumb smug fucking escapefags get BTFO.

>>159192112
When will you get this though your thick skulls, Luffyfags? Luffy isn't ready to take down Crocodile this arc. The crew aren't strong to take him down. The rebels isn't strong to take him down. There won't be any asspulls like WATER LUFFY or ANTIDOTE TO THE POISON to help them.

Luffy barely managed to escape Smoker and you think he's prepared to bring Crocodile down?! Fuck that noise.

>>159181547
He is going to join Buggy, and thats going to be hilarous.

>>159192806
To be fair, Luffy shouldn't have been strong enough to beat Crocodile, he was introduced far too early

if bigmom goes down will all the souls she has collected return?
>thrillerbark

>>159192988
Not sure. Wasn't the only reason Moria's shadows returned was because he recalled all of them before he was defeated? Anyone who read that arc a little more slowly who can confirm?

>>159192988
Probably knocking out DF users seems to make them release their hold of DF powers.

>>159177705
Look at that Nami derp.

>>159183147
>imagine thinking One Piece is for children
I bet you're female too. Shipperfags everyone!

>>159193141
iirc Luffy came up with the plan to attack Moria directly and everyone lost their shit that Luffy would say something so logical. As with Sugar and Vanderdecken, DF powers are broken by TKO. I assume BM would be the same

>>159193533
>TKO
TKO?

>>159193369
It has a generally comedic tone, it's published in an anthology that is so heavily aimed at young boys it literally has "young boy" in its name and its adaption is a Sunday cartoon. One Piece is only a small step above being a picture book targeted at babies who are only beginning to learn how to read.

>>159193369
Yeah, that poster is obviously a cunt. Dark Piece is not for children.

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>>159193688
Looks like I hit the gender classification-nail of your stereotypical shipperfag on its head.

>>159193369
Doesn't really change the fact that he/she is right. What is objectively worse about shipping discussion compared to discussing powerlevels, next nakama, future development? All are pure fiction.

>>159193589
I meant just KO, sorry

>>159193784
>>159193724
One Piece is for young adult boys. Not children.

>>159192806
I see what you are trying to say, but it's objectively NOT the same.
The SH's were going to free Alabasta, the entire crew was there and the victory condition was taking down Crocodile.
WCI Is nothing like that.

>>159193841
Apologize to me little bitch. Kiss my foot

>>159193868
That post seemed like a joke/exaggeration though.

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Granted, this is a quote by a man who wrote children's books about a Jesus lion but I don't think anyone posting on 4chan, much less this board, has the right to question the maturity/immaturity of a subject

>>159194036
Thats cool and all. But you really wanna be publicly watching Dora the explorer or blues clues?

>>159193967
Yea, hence I felt the need to correct them

>>159192112
He can easy as pie tea with gear 4 alone

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>>159193916
>it's objectively NOT the same
Leaving Big Mom alone puts anyone affiliated with the SH crew in danger of being assassinated by BM (mainly the likes of Zepp and Cocoyashi village). This also extends to Fishman Island, which Luffy swore to take back from Big Mom. Not to mention the fact that Luffy is not the type to back away from a fight, and it makes no sense to leave the weakest Yonko if he's currently on a collision course with fucking Kaido.

I'm Sure Oda knows this is his most well-received arc since Marineford and the fact that we only have a few weeks left before the 20th anniversary means that some big shit is brewing to culminate this arc

>>159194181
Like apples and oranges

>>159184030
This list fucking sucks. You can tell exactly what kind of fag made it.

>>159194181
>>159194036
This. You really want to use the /mlp/ argument?

>>159194564
doesn't make sense. I think you're misunderstanding the quote. Him having the desire to do grown up things doesn't mean the things he did weren't childish.

>>159194181
This website has a whole section dedicated solely to adult men who watch a cartoon pony show for little girls and don't give a fuck. Those poor poor autists are the metaphorical "fat chick" that makes the rest of us look better by comparison.

I could publicly watch Barney the Dinosaur and still look like a well-adjusted riajuu comparatively.

>>159194620
Fuck you bitch fight me IRL.

>>159194560
Bisons's lost
Monkeys has Luffy, Zoro AND Sanji

>>159194659
This doesn't make any of those things adult things.

>>159194659
Why is Whitebeard so high when he's a piss joke?

>>159194564
>>159194633
I said PUBLICLY anons. Most sane people recognize that although they can enjoy childish things, its still embarrassing to do it in public. Which is why we have safe spaces online to discuss them. A quote like that is cute but in real life can lead to some disastrous results.

>>159193369
You think One Piece is not aimed at children?
If so. Kek.

>>159194713
I never said that. If you want my non-meme input into this conversation it's two fold:
1.) One piece is objectively for kids; there is furigana to make it easier for kids to read
2.) One Piece objectively has an aged fanbase that grew up reading Jump and Oda knows he is catering to adult fans as well

OP is for both kids and adults.

>>159194907
>muh publicly
Who cares? It's still a childish thing to do. whether you do them in private or not. It doesn't change a damn thing.

>>159194947
>>159194962
>one piece is for kids
It's not, it's for young adult boys.

>>159194947
One Dark is aimed at mature individuals.

>>159180451
French people actually dip baguettes in coffee.
So they could be for sandwiches.
Robins favorite food.

>>159194560
>I'm Sure Oda knows this is his most well-received arc since Marineford

To be fair that isn't hard to do, Sabody return was dumb, Fishman island was super mega retarded, Punk hazard started off good but quickly became and then Dessora lasted 2 fucking years and only had like 10 good chapters. Zou was okay but nothing really happened and was mostly just a post-arc refresher to stabilize the story.

Cake Island has been fun, action packed and full of sweet sanji suffering. Other than ret-conning Sanjis backstory (who had the best backstory) the arc has had great moments

>>159195000
>it's for young adult boys.
You feel less gay saying this?

>>159195000
>It doesn't change a damn thing
It does though. The quote was trying to imply that theres nothing wrong at all with enjoying childish things and although it's true objectively, go and profess your love for One Piece in a job interview when they ask what your hobbies are. Unfortunately day-to-day life doesn't cater to that idea.

>>159195000
>The kanji characters (少年) literally mean "boy" (or "youth"), and the characters (漫画) mean "cartoon" or "comic". Thus, the complete phrase means "young person's comic", or simply "boys' comic"

You can't just add the word adult there because you want to.

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>>159191358
>Jinbe dies
>Caesar joins the crew
My feelings would be extremely conflicted

>>159194907
>Most sane people recognize that although they can enjoy childish things, its still embarrassing to do it in public.
Literally all of my coworkers sperg out whenever a Disney movie comes out. If you cannot make the distinction between "fun for all ages" and "made just for kids" then you are literally retarded

>>159195383
Caesar won't join for fucks sake

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>>159179672
>He had Nami try on outfits that Boa and Alvida would wear, during Logue Town.
>Boa was teased all the way back in 99.

>>159194560
I understand how BM's influence can affect the SH's and I understand the importance of taking down BM now. But I don't see it happening, with Reverie and Wano supposedly taking place this year there's just not enough time to take down a Yonko (atleast 5 chapters imo), leave WCI, see the Reverie and get to Wano.
I can only hope BM directs her entire anger towards the SH's and not their loved ones.
Also...we don't know if BM Is the weakest Yonko (imo it's BB).

>>159195451
So are you an anti-CCfag who has a good reason for why he can't join other than
>he's too evil lol
?

Tar logia when?

You get the properties of both rubber and gum

>>159195417
> If you cannot make the distinction between "fun for all ages" and "made just for kids"

Not saying that at all. My point was that the quote you used wasn't fully accurate in real life scenarios.

My god you fags are stupid. One Piece is ostensibly for kids. But it has mature themes adults can enjoy.
Entire families watch One Piece in Japan old and young, together.
The people that annoy Oda are the brainlets like the people in this thread who's severe autism demands things be labeled with no ambiguity for their tiny deficient retard minds to accept. You should all kill yourselves for having this discussion.

>>159195165
?

>>159195288
Are you an ESL?

>>159195166
>The quote was trying to imply that theres nothing wrong at all with enjoying childish things
The quote was used to argue that enjoying childish things is okay though, right? If so that's wrong. has nothing to do with private or public, if that was just your part of the argument then I'm not disagreeing there.

>>159195558
That reason is more than enough. I bet my cock and balls that he won't join

>Monkey D. Luffy
>Roranoa D. Zoro
>Montblanc D. Usopp
>Vinsmoke D. Sanji
>Celestial dragon last name D. Nami
>Tony Tony D. Chopper
>Nico D. Robin
>Cutty D. Flam
>Famous rockstar last name D. Brook

>>159195417
disney movies are just for kids though. Disney movie is really broad though but you're talking about neo disney so there's no artistic merit to be had either.

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>>159187550
Me. Stay mad Brony faggot.

>>159195724
>?
I-I-I'm not a kid I swear I'm a grown teenage boy reading mature things

>>159195558
He's a cool dude in the same way buggy is a cool dude. Though both aren't SH material. He'd fit in better with Bege's crew.

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Let's see

>>159195451
>>159195451
>Caesar has a sad backstory
>Showed remorse for his actions
Let's be real here that Is literally all It takes to join. Robin was a notorious villain too she betrayed many people that resulted in their deaths

>>159195745
>betting your cock and balls on an manga
Virgin identified. Shipperhating One Piece is for kids anon detected. Zolofag Sanji hater revealed.

>>159195903
This is at the same level as One Piece

>>159195724
>Are you an ESL?
Nope. Do you consider teenagers adults? A legal adult here is 18, which represents the tail end of the shounen demographic. The age range of the demographic as according to wikipedia (8-18) is not an age range I would consider falls under adult, or even "young adult" by any measure.

>>159195957
> Robin was a notorious villain too she betrayed many people that resulted in their deaths

We dont really know if she killed innocent people though. Whereas its explicitly stated for Caesar and he made kids drug addicts for crying out loud.

>>159195989
>Zolo
Stop

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Was this a good movie or not? I can't really decide.
For those that say it was good, what exactly was good about?

>>159195873
I'm just using terminology here. If you want to split hairs for some reason I don't really care to join in on that discussion. You're not even ironic strawmanning correctly.

>>159196021
I'm not sure where you're going with this argument. I don't consider stupid people and women adult either. It's not about opinion though.

>>159196040
Who the fuck cares about kids?
Luffy doesn't. He didn't give half a fuck about those kids.

>>159196094
It was genuinely decent. Art was good, main antagonist was good, and the characters were on point. 7/10

>>159195957
>that resulted in their deaths
of people nobody cares about
Caesar fucked with children

>>159195640
Whilst that would be really cool, it could be too similar to both the mochi and swamp logias we've seen so far. Sure, there are ways you could differentiate them, but being able to show that sufficiently enough in a short period of time could be quite difficult; particularly with how much exposure Katakuri has had during the tea party.

>>159196124
>Luffy doesn't. He didn't give half a fuck about those kids.

What makes you say that? How do you know he wouldn't have helped them even if Nami told him not to?

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>>159196083

>>159196211
You think Zolo could zolo Big Mom and Kaido?

>>159196198
Because Luffy doesn't give a shit about people. He only helps people by accident because he hates jerks.

>>159196211
His name's Zolo he's just rike a samulai

>>159182508
He looks like Mexican Donte

>>159196211
Senol Pink and Smokel would like to have a word with you

>>159196107
>I'm not sure where you're going with this
Quite simply, to where I began, I disagree with your usage of the word adult when you claimed OP/Shounen are for "young adult boys"
>It's not about opinion though.
That's why I defined adult as a legal adult who has reached the age of 18. I don't want to argue over semantics but a "young adult boy" to me is a male who is over 18 who has actually become an adult.

Dumb argument tho, I almost didn't reply. You can be right about this if you still want to after reading this cause I wont argue anymore.

>>159196305
>Because Luffy doesn't give a shit about people. He only helps people by accident because he hates jerks.

Can't tell if serious or actually retarded. Is that why he left behind half his loot to help the town repair after Buggy. Or why he rang the bell of Shandora. Luffy helps people who are right in front of him, if he sensed that the kids were in trouble he would definitely aid them.

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Who is the best character introduced Post-Time Skip and why is it Caesar Clown?

>>159196587
Anyone excited for the next anime episode just because it's got more CC?

>>159196536
So you use an arbitrary number because people that made the law needed a cut-off point. Good job on misunderstanding law and getting your terminology mixed up. Look up the definition of adult, of adolescence etc etc. Do some research on the topic and realize that your law is just something your country decided was most profitable to them.

>>159196442
Señor

Does someone when the ages go?

>>159196587
I don't get why Oda went so far as to make Caesar give meth to kids, just as a fucking security precaution.
They're on a fire/ice island that shouldn't exist and even if he did succeed in making giants he can just gas them since they can't use haki.

All it ended up doing is suck Laws dick at the expense of Chopper, and put Caesar beyond all redemption.

>>159181869
FT is only similar to OP because the author is BLATANTLY STEALING FROM IT

It is not an inspiration in any way. How fucking stupid are you?

>>159196726
For once there's actually a few things I'm looking forward to seeing how they handle. The mirror animals, Big Mom and Caesar clown's meeting, Perospero and the Pekoms/Bege confrontation.

Damn shame it's all so rushed though, would love to see those moments with actual care and polish afforded to them.

So is Luffy actually retarded? Or does he just not want to think?

>>159184888
the truest of patrician ships

>>159196094
>planning a heist with the expectation that Luffy would fuck it all up
>Gear 4th battle with consistent quality and a good length
>Baccaratfu
>seeing the SH crew all together in spite of the fact that they've been split up for years in the main story
It's exactly what I want from an OP movie

>>159184888
Robin/Luffy to me sounds very incestuous

>>159183053
Sanjis conversation with pudding could also be him turning her down like a gentlemen. Only time will tell.

>>159196172
if we can have snow and ice, Tar/swamp are way more different.

Tar can do everything swamp can but swamp can't do the things Tar can. It would be way better both defensively and offensively.

>>159197522
Oh absolutely, one of the most interesting aspects to Pudding as a character is the revelation that she's actually an unreliable narrator. It generates anticipation to see how much of what she said was true or not before we learned that, if and when she gets some more screen time.

>>159179672
Nami ONE thing that was hinted in a colorspread and how it became true.

I'm waiting for the cum cum no mi logia.

>>159196083
Zori

>>159197737
True. I can't wait until we find out who she really is.

>>159197350
He's just a simple, somewhat illiterate bumpkin (largely by choice). I'd argue at worst it's ADD/ADHD.