Why are the Japanese such scumbags? Why do they feel it's

>>157956308
They hate non-conformity. This usually manifests itself in xenophobia, but it extends to hatred of anything that isn't "normal" or makes you stand out. Disabilities are seen as shameful and those that have them are at fault for any "problems" they cause to "normal" people.
As such, society doesn't shame people for treating those with disabilities badly, since society believes they deserve it.

>>157956308
What irks me more is the submission to the parents some characters have. Asians in general are pretty crazy with that, and think they must always do what their parents tell them to do.
And of course a lot of parents are huge cunts

>>157956308
>Disabilities are seen as shameful and those that have them are at fault for any "problems" they cause to "normal" people
In Shouko's case it did cause "problems" to her classmates and teacher - or rather inconveniences - which is why they went full ham on her. People in wheelchairs for instance don't get nearly as much shit even in Japan.

>>157957091
No surprise why older generations and younger generations don't connect very well in recent years. The latter is beginning to rebel and be inspired by the wider world they're exposed to via Internet.

>>157956464
They hate Non-Comformity but 95% of all their media depicts government as worse than the Devil

>>157957339
>95% of all their media depicts government as worse than the Devil
Does it really? Granted, the only Japanese media I'm really exposed to is Anime and Manga, but I don't really see that there.

>>157956308
Similar things happen in the West, but they're usually much more subtle.
Disabilities tend to drive families apart or remove any sort of normal interaction, which leads to a lot of divorces and dysfunctional households. While the disabled child is still technically living with the family, they're still treated more as a problem than an actual member of the household, and can feel just as isolated as if their family completely ignored them.

>>157956464
I wonder how they deal with ADHD.

>>157957476
Most everything I've read, watched, played that has a major government also has it as corrupt.
I'd list them but it would take too long

Why is kawai such a massive bitch?

>>157957953
To be fair, most countries fucking suck at dealing with ADHD. My teachers used to openly mock me in front of the class because I got extra time on exams.

The crazy school pressure in Japan might actually make it worse though.

>>157957953
Ritalin and the like used to be available for people who'd been diagnosed but not anymore.

>>157958282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tpB-B8BXk0

Does one really need more time in an exam setting? Though I guess I cannot guess at this.

I wonder if sipping a glucose-based drink'd help.

>>157958633
Adderall and practice are the real solution. You just have to learn how to deal with your style of attention. A lot of people don't have that skill by high school, so some school systems give you additional time to sort of compensate for the diminished focus ability.

Teachers and classmates can tend to be real assholes about it though, cause they think it's a form of cheating. I actually stopped using it cause I was so fucking sick of people telling me my test scores didn't count.

>>157956308
I hate this scene. The cheap writing is huge.
Yeah, there are asshole parents who abandon their children, but this scene makes them look like they are villains from some stupid battle shonen.

A little more subtlety doesn't hurt anyone.

>>157957231
>In Shouko's case it did cause "problems" to her classmates and teacher - or rather inconveniences - which is why they went full ham on her. People in wheelchairs for instance don't get nearly as much shit even in Japan.
That's why KnK is a "victim blaming" series. In the end, it's the girl that needs to change.

>>157958824
I can't condemn this series for its lack of subtlety because it's portraying things that actually happen in Japanese society that most people over there are unwilling to admit or face.
Assholes like this exist.

>>157958282
What kind of shit did you pull?

>>157958181
That's usually because making the antagonists members of a corrupt government easily answers a lot of questions the audience might have, like "Where do they get their money?" or "Why aren't the police doing anything about this?". It's just the most convenient option from a storytelling standpoint. Do you also assume that Japanese people think that aliens speak Japanese just because most of them speak it in anime?

>>157958824
I feel like a lack of subtlety, especially in the second half, was one of the most notable flaws of the manga. A frustrating example was when the author gives an explanation of why Yuzuru photographs dead animals. It could have just been a unique character trait, it didn't need to be tied so blatantly to Shouko; it ended up feeling more like a heavy-handed attempt at saying "look how her deafness has affected the people around her" than anything else.

>>157958953
Unfortunately I never really gamed the system, I was too much of a moralfag in high school to take full advantage of what they were giving me. I think once I avoided finishing an exam by never showing up to take my extra time, but I can't remember too well.

>>157958890
Again, they exist, but portraying them as "evil" is just a lazy way to make the reader cry.

C'mon, he married her and had two daughters, but in the end, both he and his parents act as if they were unknown and cold creatures.

Real life is full of assholes, but real life is gray, not black and white.

I think it would have been less forced if he had run away or if his fights with his wife had been portrayed more often. Just a brief: "I do not want you anymore, your baby is broken, goodbye", feels too fake.

>>157958886
How do you feel about the ending? Do you think it was fair of the mangaka to imply that forgiveness is always the right answer? Did it belittle Shouko's character?

I can understand the importance of moving on and letting go of negative emotions, but I don't know how realistic of a message it sends for a bullied girl to become romantically involved with her former bully.

>>157958824
It is a shonen manga, remember.

>>157959521
Yeah, everything was too easy to believe. I mean, forgiving is a handsome gesture, but after all she suffered, make her fall in love with the guy was weird. And considering what Ueno did and the fact that she had not even apologized, ending everyone together got weird too, like "see, shoko, if you had not been so weak and antisocial from the start, none of this shit would have happened, glad you changed!".

>>157959542
But it's drama, not battle.

>>157959890
awesome*

handsome? wtf

>>157959521
Not him but I found the romance compelling and convincing. The MC works hard to atone and actually changed a lot. He's not the same person and deeply regrets what he did, so forgiving him makes sense.

Where I disagree with the author tho, is the place given to the other former classmates. Ueno, Kawai, and so on, don't apologize, nor really regret what they did. I know that in the place of the MC, I would have told Ueno to fuck off the first time and avoided all contact with my former friends, to focus on Shouko.
On the other hand, I understand what he's saying. Forgiving is noble, and keeping grudge for a long past event can be idiotic. But I still disagree. Sometimes there is no point in that, and there is simply too much pain to try anything but forgetting.

>>157956308
>Why do they feel it's okay to abandon their child if they think it's an inconvenience?
thats pretty much how it is everywhere.

>>157956464
>oh boy, time to put my SJW degree to work on this Lebanese Engineering forum!
The real answer is that when it comes to disability, the Japanese are less idealistic and naive. They know the end result is that someone with a disability wont be able to fit into society properly without being cared for perpetually.

The "worth of the individual" doesn't give Easterners a hard-on like it does in the west. Probably because Western culture has the an ingrained "value of a human soul is all equal" breed into us by centuries of Judeo-Christian belief. In Eastern cultures the whole is more important than its parts, and anything that isn't fulfilling the great needs of society is shameful.

Also you shouldn't take a narrow perspective from a manga as dogma. Plenty of Japanese people feel sorry for disabled people and there are lots of charity and volunteer organizations that subscribe to the same "abloobloo muh precious angels" mentality you would find in the west. Its just not the the social consensus for the regular family.

>>157959950
Yes, but it's still a shonen manga. You can't reasonably expect subtly.

>>157960246
You seem to know a decent amount about this. Does bullying/poor treatment toward disabled people really occur that frequently in Japanese society? How exaggerated would you say the manga's characters are in comparison to the average person in Japan?

In the early chapters, I was really struck by how willingly almost everyone in the class participated in tormenting Shouko. I know the story is written to be dramatic and emotional, but you hear those stories about really intense bullying in East Asian countries, so I'm not sure.

>>157960166
I didn't like the romance because it came out too fast, but I'm also ok with the forgiveness for Ishida because he struggled for it, he had clearly expressed regret.

Ueno hit the girl, cursed her and all that shit. And did not regret it. And yet everything went well in the end? I don't buy it. Forgiveness is noble, but it is not something that comes easy, especially for someone who humiliated you. End like this gives the impression that Ueno was right after all.

>>157960559
I agree, that's why the story is weak. This kind of "lack of subtlety" better in battle shonen, not in drama.

>>157959406
It's not the first time I've seen this sort of trope before though
And usually they don't have the excuse of 'broken baby'
For example in Itsuya-san the mc's mother remarries and sends him to live with his grandmother suffering from dementia because she didn't want to 'complicate' her new family

>>157960246
you clearly know jack shit about what you are talking about, they are of course some dissabilities that will require constant care, but deaf people are sure as shit not one of them, with actuall training and education of them and their family and friends they can become pretty damn good funcional members of a society

>>157960665
I would have prefered if the romance had been built more steadily. We didn't even get a kiss ffs.

>Ueno hit the girl, cursed her and all that shit. And did not regret it. And yet everything went well in the end? I don't buy it
Yeah Ueno is a cunt, but is there is one message going on in the manga, it's also that the present counts more than the past. You have to let some things go and judge people on what they are now and what they do now, not who they were yesterday.
So yes, even now Ueno is still a cunt, but she gets Shouko to finally stand up to her, so there's that. Again, I'd have severed any ties with that bitch immediately, but I'm not a fucking saint

>>157957339

The wider society hates non-conformity but anime is quite often critical of Japanese society at large.

>>157960619
>Does bullying/poor treatment toward disabled people really occur that frequently in Japanese society?
Its a complex question. The best I can say is that outwardly/obvious disabilities would be almost taboo for anyone outside family and close friends to draw attention to, let alone bully/abuse someone over. Japanese people are painfully obsessed with appearance and politeness so I can't imagine that happening in normal circumstances.

Now the rub is that family and close friends that have to deal with the disability on a regular basis might grow resentful for one reason or another and lash out on the person as a means of catharsis, because Japanese are very emotionally repressed but cannot release it in what we would considered a healthy manner.

The last exception are things we would considered a "invisible disability" like being autistic, ADHD, low IQ, homosexual, ect. which isn't even considered a real thing by regular people, especially kids in Japan and is fair game for bullying.
>>157960848
No. Deaf people are missing one of the most important human sensory experiences and although they can manage better than most, its obviously a huge disadvantage to anyone with more brain than bleeding heart. Also fuck the deaf, the ones in the west have an insufferable superiority complex and secret club mentality and downright shun and attack anyone who decides to get their hearing corrected by medical means.

>>157959241
Yeah but often times it gets to stupid levels.
Like in Fire Emblem Radiance Dawn where the corrupt government being outed for their corruption said 'fuck it, double down' and caused the entire world to nearly be destroyed because they didn't want to give up their slaves.
Or like the government in BoF4. "Yeah you have proof the bad guys broke the treaty...but it's easier to call you all traitors and kill you all."
Hell there's even a recently released game of a certain JRPG franchise where a single government official basically damns humanity to the whim of a God
Or you have situations like World's End Harem, where having a corrupt government is just a detriment to an already awful story.

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>>157960806
There's also the dead baby trope

>>157961027
>fuck the deaf
Jesus christ anon, didn't you read the manga ?

>>157961027
>which isn't even considered a real thing by regular people
Do you mean just homosexuality, or all of those non-visible disabilities? Do they just think that they're personality traits or something?

>>157956464
They only give a shit about their image and if you make them look bad they'll cut you off.

>>157961120
I'd say a family breaking up do to losing a child is pretty universal though.
Whereas abandoning a child to improve your own well being and not being seen as a total shitbag is something you really only see in the East.
As far as I know at least

>>157961033
OK, so?

>>157957953
Depends on how it manifests. I can see a lot of kids dropping out after middle school because they can't pay attention.

>>157961167
Both and yes. So did we not a generation or two ago. I have met so many autistic Japanese people who are just considered a certain type of personality in Japan but to me are clearly on the spectrum. Outside of their obvious flaws they seem to get on society well enough without attributing their quirks to a disability.

Homosexuality is starting to shift a bit in Japan with the much younger generations, there is a bit of SJW shit going on that front and its on TV a lot but its still in the realm of novelty and strangeness.

Most Japanese people just see it someone making a sexual kink into way too big of a deal and letting it jeopardize their social cohesion and family obligations. Putting yourself before others is never a good trait in to have in Japanese society for any reason.

On the flipside Japan is a lot more lax with the physical act of homosexual behavior and attraction, especially when its kept private and is a "phase" you grow out of when you settle down and get married. Its even acceptable to get married aromatically and have gay sex on the down-low, provided you make at least a few kids.

Western society on the flipside is more obsessed with the connotations of the physical side of homsexuality and sorting people into identity groups over it.

>>157960806
>>157961120
But I'm not complaining about the act itself, but about how it is portrayed in the narrative of KnK. It's more manipulative than realistic.
>Mom and Grandma are hardworking and careful people. Dad and Grandpa are mean and despicable people.

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>>157961284
The mother was an absolute cunt in the manga I posted tho, but yeah, the death didn't help.

>abandoning a child to improve your own well being and not being seen as a total shitbag is something you really only see in the East.
It exists in the west too. My grandmother knew a woman who gave birth to a half black boy after the liberation (I'm french). She also hid her pregnancy with constricting clothes and belts, which led to difformities upon birth. She then gave the boy to her mother, and literally no one in the village knew whose child it was. The grandmother just said "he was given to me" or some shit like that.
Granted it was a long time ago, but holy shit, those fucking peasants.

>>157961494
To give an example on the gay side of things, there was a study done in Japan were the majority of boys said their first romantic kiss was with a male friend during their adolescence or teens, and a large number reported going farther than kissing. In the west that would automatically be grounds permanently label you as gay or bi no matter what, where as there its just something natural that occurs that has less stigma then the alternative of having "real sex" with the opposite gender before you are adults, which runs all sorts of risks like pregnancy and ruining a girls reputation and marriage prospects.

Japanese girls very commonly have romantic friendships that are super obsessive and borderline creepy, although its a lot less likely to manifest sexually compared to boys, but it happens. There is a common meme in anime/manga you will notice where the first time you best friend shows interest in the opposite sex, you feel like they are betraying/cheating on you and you've lost them forever.

>>157961755
>where as there its just something natural that occurs that has less stigma then the alternative of having "real sex" with the opposite gender before you are adults
That's what I said to my bff last night before I sucked his cock

>>157961755
Is trans even an issue being explored in Japan at this point, or is it still invisible to most people?

>>157961494
>>157961755
The labels are shit but it's not surprising they exist the way they do now. My mum worked in haemotology during the original AIDS scare and they had an entire haemophilia ward infected from blood donated from San Fransisco. By pure coincidence, the dad of one of my friends in primary school was one of the victims, needless to say he didn't survive very long.
You can bitch about labels and stigmatism until you're blue in the tits, but the implications were and remain very real. Japan is just lucky it doesn't have that problem yet.

>>157961948
I've seen at least one intersex-orientated manga that was fairly sensitive on the subject, surprisingly.

>>157962025
What manga was it?

To prevent this from being a worthless spoonfeed post, I'll share a manga that I thought handled gender decently:
https://manga.madokami.al/Manga/B/BA/BALA/Balance%20Policy

Even though it's a sci-fi setup and not a traditional trans character, it did a pretty good job of exploring being uncomfortable in your own body.

>>157958633
I'm afraid I might have ADD. I even have trouble concentrating on learning to draw and I want to learn to draw.
I fucked up my mechatronics college becuase I couldn't move my arse to do learn and write that fucking homework.
Not to mention I was always ass with math, but sometimes I could come up with answer through intuition.
Just fuck my shit up, guys.

>>157962138
I'm pretty sure it was literally called IS (for intersex).

All these Asian issues is because the males have small penises.
Not even shitposting, there's a reason they worship the white European male in all their fiction.

>>157957091
Read up on Confucius for that.

>>157961948
Depends. If the person goes through the proper channels early like before they become an adult at 20 and are VERY discreet and secretive about it everyone is supportive and works hard to get all their surgery and hormones managed quickly and quietly and then they transfer to a new school or go to college as their new gender with no one being the wiser.

If you are an adult, its the opposite experience of you being labeled as a homo/transvestite/fetishist and being relegated to gay red-light districts as a drag queen or a porn star. Its a lot harder to actually go through the medical and legal side of things and if you are married or have a child the government forbids changing you legal documents and family registry.

>>157961948
What is all this retardation in the quote chain? Japs donti give a shit, they (the deviants) just don't it feel the need to flaunt it and dress in rainbow colors.

>>157962190
No, that's not ADD, you're just lazy, stupid and have low willpower. You don't have brain problems, you're just scum.

>>157962318
I should note that in the first experience, the situation is invisible. Most Japs don't know that this goes on, including the kid. Usually what happens is that its painfully obvious to the school staff and nurses when puberty is not working out right for a specific kid and they are becoming suicidal or have obvious gender issue. Its usually the nurses and doctors that explain the situation and options to them and their family who has to give approval for it to take place.

>>157962457
Besides the physical/hormonal treatment, is there any sort of therapy in schools for kids transitioning? I've heard bad stuff about the lack of mental health support in general.

>>157956308
>hurr, why don't primitive societies deal with the issues that they lack the technology to deal with

>>157960246
hello angry nip

>>157962887
>therapy
They might have something during the process, but Japanese aren't big on therapy and psychology and I am sure the kid doesn't want to dwell on it after the process is over and they have started a new life.

>>157961027
Sometimes I wonder how it would feel irrationally hating everything that was different from you. I wonder if I would start to armchair physician and theorize a bunch of absolute bullshit then act like it was the truth. Would I post about it online in an anonymous fashion? Probably, who else could I tell my gross generalizations and horribly stereotypical thoughts to?

>>157963262
Go to /pol/, everybody is like that there

>>157962389
Maybe, I don't know. I already feel bad about the whole situation.
Thing is I'm capable of working, mostly when it's physical work, the problem is that I have shit memory and I feel anxious that I may forget something and fuck it up.

>>157963262
Yeah, because your analysis of myself is do unbiased and fair. Someone asked a question and I answered it, you can't think I am full of shit (and you should) but I can't help but wonder what your objective is to set out to undermine it via character attack on an anonymous forum. Who are you trying to convince?

>>157963466
You're talking from an assumed position of authority and people are actually taking the shit coming out of your mouth as fact when it is painfully obvious that it's just stuff you made up. Honestly it seems like most of your "knowledge" comes from fiction.

If you want to discuss your opinions and why they might be right or wrong, sure. But you're just talking out your ass and spreading misinformation.

>>157963587
Not him but can you provide proof why what he is saying is bullshit instead of just shitting on it?

>>157963587
I gave a social analysis (far from a comprehensive field) on Japanese culture as it pertains to this issue. Anyone is free to actually disagree or ignore me or maybe give a counter point. All you have done is say how wrong and convincing people of something that isn't true without supporting that yourself.

People can decide and believe what they want, why are you so triggered by this? Its almost like you are more butthurt against it not fitting your personal narrative. And then we have shit like >>157963348 which is absolutely irrelevant.

Asians are soulless subhumans, theyre incapable of emotions external or internal. They value kissing their ancestors asses and muh honor over being a human interaction. Even niggers are more human in this sense

>>157960850
>So yes, even now Ueno is still a cunt, but she gets Shouko to finally stand up to her, so there's that.
So Shoko should ignore the public humiliations, the wounds and be grateful for Ueno to make her face reality? I really can not understand this mentality. Sorry. This is blaming the victim.

Violence and arrogance are not good things, but I see that many here are relieving this simply because Shoko has changed.

Maybe I'm too old-fashioned, I don't know.

>>157963650
How can I provide proof against people abandoning their children not being considered peicess of shit? When I was in Japan I saw many special Ed helpers walking around with disabled kids during the day. When his knowledge is coming from manga it seems pretty clear that he's got no clue what he's talking about.

>>157963746
You gave a gross generalization based on a stereotype that the Japanese people shun people with disabilities. Then, when someone pointed out that there are many services in place to help take care of those people, you brush it off and act like everyone looks down on those people. The only people in Japan that would care about "normalicy" would be old people or people living in the past. You also say that this is a quality specific to Japan which is also highly inaccurate. The US treats people with disabilities like garbage and no one cares. They throw them in public schools with no assistance and turn a blind eye when they fall behind or are bullied.
I wonder if you can substantiate any of your claims?

>>157963262
> irrationally hating everything that was different from you.
noone does this.

>>157961494
Homosexuality has been prominent in some manga and anime for a long time now, how did they get away with it?

>>157964189
fiction doesn't have to obey the laws of social expectations, that's why its fiction. They wouldn't allow that sort of thing to be taught as non-fiction though, they would gloss over people and history that would be considered scandalous like Nobunaga being a huge faggot

>>157964278
He had a wife it's fine.

>>157964278
Buy I thought all ancient warlords and samurai were faggots

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>>157964041
Half the shit you are accusing me of was other anons, not me. Stop straw-manning me as the sole villain in your crusade to sway the hearts of /a/nons to drink your SJW anti-American coolade.

Fuck off back to tumblr or /co/, Based on your incoherent and emotional rambling I am 90% sure you are female, so tits of GTFO.

>>157956308
I always wondered what the divorce was supposed to accomplish?

Does Japan not have child support laws or something? Is he not looked down upon by society for abandoning his child? Does divorce remove him the the supposed shame of having a disabled child? Or is the child's lively really only ever the mother's responsibility in japan? Does Japan look at the mother as being at fault for having disabled kids and not the dad?

>>157958755
>>157958633
How does one tell if you have it versus lazy?

>>157964472
Not the same anon,
>accusing someone of being female
>telling someone to go back to the boogeyman communities
Not an argument.

>>157964472
I don't give a shit about you or the other anons here. I'm just calling bullshit bullshit. My main goal was to call you a fucking idiot and make the point that you shouldn't blindly believe whatever dumb shit you read online. Especially on an anonymous image board.

>>157964660
Where the fuck do you think you are? Respect board culture or kindly fuck off forever you insufferable shit.

>>157964750
You shouldn't just flail around and ruin the thread because a few people disagreed with you. You're not even backing up what you said earlier.

>>157963262
ur a faget

>>157964540
There are child support laws, it depends who you're talking to but divorce is treated similarly to how it is in the West. Generally not seen in a good light but excusable. There's no joint custody and they favor mother custody (similar to US). In the manga the father blames the mother but there's no social custom or anything, he's just a peice of shit.

The dad will probably never mention the child again and pretend as if he never had a former wife.

>>157964610
you dont

>>157964610
You see a doctor and have them test you.

>>157964610
Why would it matter? If there's a problem, then there is a problem. A different cause doesn't suddenly make a problem okay to ignore.

>>157958755
I had a honors roommate with diagnosed ADHD who did the same thing (not using his extra time) . I always assumed he just didn't need it. Never considered people might've been shitting on him for it.

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>>157962389
>stupid and low willpower
>Not brain problems

>>157961494
>I have met so many autistic Japanese people who are just considered a certain type of personality in Japan
Aside from the bullying aspect, that just sounds better to me. Better at least than america where kids are pumped with drugs if they act unusual. I'd rather be ignored and/or shit on for being different than for people to try to "help" me by destroying my mind and converting me into a submissive slave.

KnK is a very stereotypical version of how bullying works in Japan. Real life is not that simplistic and manufactured.

>>157968110
> Real life is not that simplistic and manufactured.
It basically is though. People are not all that unique, nor are their ways of acting. Especially in collectivist societies people generally follow predictable patterns of behavior. Even if something is stereotypical it doesn't mean it isn't a close enough approximation to real world events to hold more than a kernel of truth.

>>157958633
thank you for posting this

>>157956308
>Why do they feel it's okay to abandon their child if they think it's an inconvenience?

What different about this to the Japanese than over here in the west?

>>157958755
That doesn't make sense. I guess itls because all of my tests have been I know it, done in 15 minutes or I don't and I get fucked. Unless it's an essay or something.

>>157968015
So tell me anon, how long have you believed that everyone is out to get you?

>>157964787
>You shouldn't just flail around and ruin the thread because a few people disagreed with you.

True, so I agree with the other anon that you should fuck off forever.

>>157960850
>but is there is one message going on in the manga, it's also that the present counts more than the past
the problem with that is that the past does give you a good read on what a person's about

Ueno doesnt need to be the subject of a grudge or anything but yeah any sane person would avoid talking to her regardless of her newfound self-improvement

>>157961432
So?
Look I may not like the government but I wouldn't exactly say they're so evil and/or incompetent they'd bring the wrath of a GOD down onto Earth

>>157958633
I'd like to seriously thank you for that link, it was very interesting to watch.

>>157968262
Hmm indeed, here in America we're so individualistic, bullying doesn't exist, and if it turns out we have a higher bullying rate, it's just because they under-report it.

>>157970045
Are you pretending to be retarded? The point wasn't about which cultures have more or less bullying, but that it is easier to correctly generalize the forms it takes in a society which has a high cohesiveness and uniformity.

>>157958886
Well she did try to commit suicide, bothering lots of people. The ultimate sin of a Japanese person.

>>157959363
I feel like the manga story was botched. I wonder if the Deaf council meddled.

>>157956308
ITT: Delusional tumblrtards that should fuck off back to >>>/lgbt/ >>>/soc/

Nobody on /a/ gives a fuck your hormone treatments.

>>157962389
>>157962190
Just see a doctor.

>ADHD is not an Attention Disorder, it is a blindness to the Future.
>Russell Barkley, PhD, one of the foremost researchers of ADHD suggests that ADHD is not an attention disorder. He suggests that “ADHD is a blindness to the future… so that the child and adult with ADHD are going to wait until the future is eminent (in your face)… and then they will try to deal with it.”
>Barkley suggests that “ADHD creates a nearsightedness to time so that the person with the disorder cannot organize to the delayed future but only to the imminent future. Thus, everything in life becomes a crisis. But the crisis was avoidable and no one has patience with this because they see this as a moral failing. ‘You could have chosen to get ready, but didn’t’.”
>Dr. Barkley also suggests that “ADHD is a performance disorder. You can’t perform the things you know how to do. People with ADHD know what to do, but they can’t do what they know”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JowPOqRmxNs <-video with the full quote


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tpB-B8BXk0

>>157964610
See a doctor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JowPOqRmxNs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tpB-B8BXk0
http://adhdlectures.com/

>>157970178
No? Bullying and its forms is human nature, it has nothing to do with how society organizes itself. It's the same shit everywhere.

>>157969723
Chillax, it's a story dude, it's not real.

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>>157958282
Regarding ADHD (to whom it may concern (any Anon who is interested), not necessarily the poster I replied to. I just wanted to increase visibility.)

IF you think you might have ADHD, see a doctor. (1 in 6 Adults might grow out of it. Looks like most won't.)

>Dr Russell Barkley ADHD Intention Deficit Disorder
(Talks basically about procrastination, and knowing vs ability to execute and (hierachically) plan for the future. Living in the moment vs planning) (Longer part of the quote here >>157970790 ).
(Intention Deficit Disorder -> I don't seem to be able to do most of the things I intended to do.)
(He calls ADHD the "Diabetes" aka chronic disease of clinical psychology (though way more manageable through medication and other stuff. In contrast to Diabetes.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JowPOqRmxNs

>This is how you treat ADHD based off science, Dr Russell Barkley part of 2012 Burnett Lecture
(Talks about stuff to manage ADHD (assuming one can manage to, assumes probably medication in force.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tpB-B8BXk0

His website with Lectures for Laymen and Health Professionals about ADHD (free to watch).
http://adhdlectures.com/

>>157957091
paradise kiss touches on that

>>157965056
Western "doctors" would diagnose you with being the opposite gender if you asked them hard enough. Especially if it will give then an excuse to prescribe you some expensive ass pills.

ADD is as much of a "condition" as having IQ that is only moderately below average.
Chances are, you are just a fucking airhead who was never taught proper discipline or motivated to develop one.

In a sense, the very concept of ADD is what keeps perpetuating it by giving faggots like you an excuse.

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Japanese society has the correct way of thinking, nobody should be forced to raise a disabled child, they should be made into soylent green and fed to the serf class.

>>157968262
Nah, stereotypes only work for humor, not drama, because people are not shallow appearances, even if they strive to be, there is always something deeper.

>>157971462
A world would legitimately be a better place if we actually did as long as it is done to kids that are too young to comprehend what's about to happen.

Less pathetic cripples to live sorrowfull lives.
Less budget spent on supporting said cripples.
No adults having their lives completely ruined by moral obligation to tace care of those things.

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>>157972117
> people are not shallow
>there is always something deeper.
I'm gonna have to call bullshit on that. I'm personally shallow and empty as fuck and I know a lot of people like that. People really aren't as complex of things as most would like to believe.

>>157972231
I don't disagree, but we could do even better by just having genetic and other eugenic screenings in place to prevent conception of many of these people in the first place or to abort the pregnancy for mutations that occur later down the line. This would take care of a great majority of disabilities and inherited diseases and be almost totally morally acceptable within current social norms.

>>157972749
>be almost totally morally acceptable within current social norms.
plenty of people think its evil because nazis or whatever.

>>157971257
What the fuck are you doing?

>>157972995
Well I did say "almost". In reality I'm willing to bet that if you simply offered government subsidized genetic testing for the parent and in utero in family planning clinics, along with free preventatives or amd cheap abortions for those with genetic defects, most people would start doing it of their own volition. I mean heck that's what well to do families are already doing, you could even bill such spending as being radical and egalitarian, and also "pro-women". Anyone complaining about nazis would be mostly drowned out by the good press you could generate with that alone.