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So some tracks of the OST are out, also anyone get the mega of the HD Blame! scans? I need it for wallpaper making.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wR8yy-vn1M
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>>157518219
Goddess has the first 3 volumes of the digital Vertical release if that's what you're looking for
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>>157518427
>kyrii
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>>157518427
Digital version of the original japanese, I don't need to read it I just need the highest quality so I can get the best art scan off it.
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/tv/ pleb here, loved the fuck out of the movie. I'm assuming the Fishers were just a small episode of the overarching plot, right? Would the new master editions be a decent time investment or does the story tank at some point? Been looking for a long GN like Akira or Cerebus to settle into.
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>when the cowboy music begins to play after Killy stomps murder-fu Sanakan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8OAEbq0dgE
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>>157519574
The manga is kino by definition. Relatively unknown, GOAT art direction, incredible tone and pacing, convoluted plot that needs to be explained after reading/reread a few times to understand.

It's honestly incredible, definitely worth a few hours to sit down and read it all.
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>>157518219
Where the hell are the builders getting all their materials if the city stretches all the way to Jupiter?
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Just finished the movie; I knew it was going to suck and I was still disappointed. Low budget, ugly CGI, and weird discontinuities aside, I was at least hoping for some ultra-violent action. There was 1 decent action scene and everything was toned down for a teenage audience. Truly, a terrible studio.

>>157519574
The story starts off slow in the first couple volumes, but gets better and better until the (fantastic) ending. There are about 5 major plot arcs - they took 1 of them (the electro-fishers), combined parts from 2 others, and then forgot to finish the electro-fisher arc anyway.
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>>157520066
There is a handy asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter.
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>>157520066
Limitless energy + E=mc^2 means they can make whatever matter they want
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>>157520066
Alternate dimensions, cannibalising the moon, matter / energy conversion. There is a lot of really advanced and wild technology in Blame!
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8OAEbq0dgE
>2:09

Music cue at 2:09 was peak Sanakan
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>>157519013
hey man ill take it. never even thought i would be able to get my hands on a translated copy.
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Is Killy the Driver of anime?
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>>157520066
They use the sun for energy and as >>157520142
said E= mc^2 means a lot of energy is released when matter is broken down, but matter can also be constituted when you have a lot of energy. It's how heavy metals are formed in a solar furnace or in principle how SEU's body regenerator/factory works.
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>>157520263
>so what's your name? I haven't seen another human for decades
>...
>......
>....................
>*spongebob narrator voice* 10,000 years later
>...
>I search for Net Terminal Genes
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>>157519242
I can give you the "highest quality" existing scans of chapter 1 in raw, but nothing else. They are *unedited*. Nothing else has been scanned of the raws. Would you would want those? They're not ordinary image files, so be aware of that.
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>>157520066
Dark matter, planets & alternative universes.
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>>157520066
Jupiter. There's a room the size of Jupiter.
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>>157520230
kinda reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr_79Jm62mo but goes to places really fast, too much alan silvestri
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>>157520438
Yeah that's fine, I'm a photographer so I'm equipped to deal with weird scan files since I scan all my film.
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How the hell did we go from this...
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>>157520687
To this?
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>>157520687
no tae in the manga, thus less cringeworthy
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>>157520705
why was she blushing like a retard?
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What am I supposed to get from the last chapter of the manga?
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>>157520093
What's it liking having a shit opinion?
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>>157520789
He went to the edge of the city and hatched a child with NTG.

Not much TO get, really. What confused you?
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>>157520789
Killy completed his quest, Authority regains control, Cibo is restored from temporary storage.
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>>157520789
ART
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>>157520789
Confusion.
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>>157520863
sanakan is also restored
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>>157520863
No, that was Mori.

>>157520912
What the hell are you talking about?
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>>157520608
Alright. Give it a little while to upload to mega; the folder's well over a gigabyte. Got em off Elemhunter a full year ago. Fucker won't respond to me anymore, though - at least, not since they announced the English editions of the new Blame volumes. He might be pissed about that or something. He did have to debind a limited release $30 book for the scanlations, after all.

>>157520789
Killy acquired another child to sacrifice to the terminal gods. The manga ends with him taking the child back into The City to reach a terminal and SAVE THE WORLD. So, his journey isn't even over at the end of the manga. But, he does succeed, eventually. Canon from NSE and Blame 2.
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>>157520870
>Tfw this was art, but I'll never know what they meant by this
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>>157520912
Is she? I thought they made it clear they couldnt back up here data in any way. Unless that Governing Authority bro that was watching over Killy did something on his own initiative again.
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I watched the movie high out my mind last night forgetting that it's source material is a manga. i'm a volume into it right now. i think i heard that the movie is from a arc in the manga but was done differently, when in the manga do the events in the movie start?
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>>157520927
I thought Mori was the device around the girl's neck and the little girl was Cibo?
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>>157521108
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>>157521175
Honestly, the whole tidbit about overwritten many times and looking like a young Cibo really is misleading as fuck.
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>>157520938
Thank you famalam.
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>>157521175
Go back a few pages, it shows a pendant hanging around her neck.
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>>157521069
Volumes 3 and 4, but the electro-fishers' story only really concludes during the Toha Heavy Industries arc.

>>157521108
Mori isn't technically her name, but that's what we call her since she didn't have a name. She says here that she was retrieved from a preservation device, so it must have been Mori. She also had memories of the sphere and said it was produced "by two females" which is kind of a weird thing to say about yourself.
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>>157521323
pendant is this girl?
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>>157521399
two females: cibo and sanakan
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cKpGSQB3LM

Did you forget about this at some point in the past few years? It's unfortunate that I'm here to remind you about it.
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>>157521399
thanks, i've tried reading the manga a few times in the past, but the art is done in a way that makes it hard to understand what's happening during combat scenes. i'm kind of glad i watched the movie before instead of reading the manga. i have a lot better idea of what's going on now.
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>>157519932
I cracked up every time it happened. Remove the scifi and this movie is exactly a 'mysterious stranger' western.
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https://youtu.be/mrPMatGHtIQ?t=1h15s

Best part of the fucking soundtrack, when best girl shows up
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>>157521399
I had presumed since she couldnt remember her real name, she couldnt also remember thr details of what was exactly in the sphere. But honestly, having it be another person would mean the NTG girl would probably inherit Sanakan and Cibo"s personality, traits and possibly their memories.
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>>157521709
probably they wired her to a chair so the authority can use her to access everything freely
freaking skynet!
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>>157520066
Recycle, reduce, reuse, and close the loop.
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>>157521693
It's such a blatant ripoff of the song from Tron Legacy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqJkdsqeDxw
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>>157521691
Same. Watched it with a friend, we both lost our shit when it did the cowboy music at the end. But hey, while it is just a Western, Westerns aren't bad by any means.
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>>157520230
good shit
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>>157522034
what is wrong with her ass
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>>157521970
>>157521693
>they just totally ripped it off from the Tron Legacy OST
Haha oh wow. Worth it to give best murderer a cool theme though.
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>>157522062
Without a hip bone that's the kind of join a leg would need to have the same kind of flexibility.
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>forgotten about again
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So what did Cibo drop?
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>>157522256
best girl
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>>157522294
Honestly, as it was framed in the film, I just thought it was some thing that would start the elevator. She doesn't really have any means of pressing a normal-height button or anything, so she dropped an electric thing that it would detect and which would cause it to activate. Wasn't until afterwards that I started to consider that it might have been something else.
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>>157522294
I'm getting deja vu here... Wasn't there a one-shot where the electro-fishers escaped with Cibo, while she was stuck in some weird form? Did Nihei write that one?
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>>157522480
As I recall, Cibo sent the fishers off herself. Killy wasn't even there at the time.
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>>157522425
She presses buttons to call the car, though, and she seems to be standing on the console. I doubt it was something as irrelevant as that.
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>>157522294
Nudes for Killy.
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Chapter 1 true raws just finished uploading. Be careful with these; they're not toys.

https://mega.nz/#F!7wBmHRCS!0X9GJUC5iJkKEmD6ZbJQpw
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>>157522130
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>>157522647
Thank you very much famalam.
>>157522522
I thought Mensab took the remaining fishers into the space time rift to protect them?
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>O-Oh! Thank god you've come!
>I've waited 5.6 million hours!
>T-The safeguard put me on this punishment level back then...
>I can't remember what I did...
>Y-You'll help me right?
>I'm strong and I can help you!
>R-Right?
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>>157522256
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>>157522960
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>>157522937
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>>157520066

Humanity figured out how to gain energy from gravity. And since you can't really "use up" or "spend" gravity, its basically an infinite power source. They also have tech that can create matter out of energy.

So Infinite energy= Infinite matter. Technology in the City is so far ahead that some of the malfunctioning machines have the capability of accidentally destroying space and time itself if they won't get fixed.
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So, just to confirm, it's pronounced "Blammy", right?
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>>157522767
>I thought Mensab took the remaining fishers into the space time rift to protect them?
No, just Seu. And the records of some stuff that I don't remember off the top of my head. What I'm talking about happens just before that; after the president or whatever of Toha teleports the actual cave itself. Mensab gives the people warning, and they go to escape pods. Here's Cibo saving them from the teleportation, see? After this chapter, Killy and Cibo chat with Mensab, and *then* they go into slipspace.
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>>157523057
Bu-ra-mu, though I actually enjoy the engrish name and take it as both the actual word blame, and as a sound effect of the GBE. I think it creates a nice differential.
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>>157520263
Why did they make Killy look pissed?
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>>157523060
You are correct. I guess SEU and his waifu get to live in a space time rift forever then. Neat. Lucky ass nigga.
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>>157523178
For you.
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Sanakan a cute. CUTE!
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Electro-fishers got a much happier ending than they did in the manga.

By the end of their arc, both Safeguard and Silicon Creatures have been killing them so much theres only a handful of them left when Cibo puts them in an escape pod
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>>157523178
Cibo is a girl?
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>>157522937
Who is this supposed to be? Cibo?
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>>157520230
1:50~ reminds me a little of Love Theme from MGS.
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>>157523419
Sanakan when she becomes an agent of the governing authority.
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You know what's awesome? The black knight silicon life that appears right at the end armed with huge anti-GBE shields and laser swords. Those guys were absolutely fucking amazing.
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>>157523540
why come my american cg anime dont look like its lagging?
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>>157523540
The reason the 12fps CGI looks like shit is a lot of the frames don't have wipes or stretches like traditional animation so you never get fooled into thinking it's fluid motion. It's a legitimate complaint that they didn't put enough effort into that aspect of the animation.
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>>157523522
Ah. Thank you.
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Call me crazy, but blame gakuen really felt like the most "fun" iteration of blame!
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>>157523608
this
you cant just directly translate from 2D animation to 3D animation
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>>157523587

>laser swords.

I though they were Graviton swords, like the one Pcell had.
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>>157521399
>She says here that she was retrieved from a preservation device, so it must have been Mori
I've told you this before, but that's incredibly flimsy logic.
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>>157521362
I just realized
Killy only had one leg at that point
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>>157520840
>implying he said anything wrong

I think you may be an animeonly fag that doesn't know shit, anon.
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>>157523057
See: >>157523123

Japs can't into English so they say Blammu instead of Blame. Same way in Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild where everyone says Linkku instead of Link.
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>>157520093
>implying Blame! was ever ultraviolent
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>>157522480
Yes, that was an extra included with one of the Sidonia Volumes. The ending of the movie is taken from there

Also has Zuru(male)
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>>157521399

>Mori isn't technically her name, but that's what we call her since she didn't have a name. She says here that she was retrieved from a preservation device, so it must have been Mori. She also had memories of the sphere and said it was produced "by two females" which is kind of a weird thing to say about yourself.

Theres so much Cibo in her that the girl might be multiple personalities merged together, like she says herself, many other personalities were written over hers. So a mix of Cibo and Mori, maybe even a bit of Sanakan.

Not to mention how its a fitting ending for Cibo to finally get to enter the Netsphere she always obsessed about, but gets stuck in there until Killy fixes things.
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>>157524347

Its not downright gore manga, but its still pretty violent. Sanakan didn't have her needles in the movie, which would've violently turned Electro-fishers inside out and into Exterminators.
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>>157524491
>it's possible Cibo and Killy might be reunited again since there's Netsphere Access now
It's all I've ever cared about. I just want Killy's suffering to end.
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Cibo is for _______________
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>>157524589
Killy isn't suffering, he fights for justice, he's basically an Emiya Shirou that doesn't regret their ideals even after a million years.
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>>157524489
Why is Killy kidding?
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>>157520775
I dunno, maybe cause a GBE flew over her fucking head when she slipped and fell looking up at it.
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>>157524347
It can get pretty gruesome.
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>>157524489
>Cibo knows Killy so well that she knows what Killy is thinking just by his face
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>>157520263
What's a Driver? Doesn't sound like it belongs in /a/
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>>157518219
Sounds like Light of the Seven
https://youtu.be/pS-gbqbVd8c?t=322
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>>157524616
Admiring
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>>157524616
Gentle love making, holding hands, 17 million hours of snuggling.

Just look at this lewd robot, pregnant and still ready to jump you at a moment's notice. Her eyes tell the whole story.
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At first I thought I'd be annoyed, but combining the Electrofisher arc and plucking the only good parts of the abandoned level arc out for backstory was a good decision. They even managed to make the Sanakan bit better by having her hide as an electrofisher instead of being a random kid Killy picked up.

Don't know how I feel about the removal of Toha though, but if they had kept that they would have needed another movie all together just to finish the electrofisher arc.
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>>157524792
Robots can't get pregnant.
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>>157524589

Well his quest succeeded so his "suffering" pretty much ended. But he went on a whole another different adventure right afterwards with an unknown objective.

The ending of Blame! is pretty brilliant, back to square 1 from where he started from the very first book, acquiring a kid with Net Terminal Genes that he has to escort somewhere. Although this time around there weren't two Silicon shitheads there to ruin everything for him and force him to start from scratch again.
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>>157524717
Listen here nigger, you shut your mouth, or I'll kick your teeth down your throat and shut it for you.
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>>157524835
Cibo gets pregnant in the manga though...
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>>157524835

She looks like she's pregnant in her imp form.
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>>157524895
Cibo is not a robot.
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What would you feed this sexy cyborg?
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>>157524936
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>>157524979
I'd feed her my nutrient bar.
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So was there ever any decent scans for the first few volumes? I haven't read BLAME in like 8 years
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Man, all I ever wanted was a full Blame! series animated like the promo shorts. Only in dreams..
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>>157525026
I had a Blame! dream last night. It wasn't pleasant.
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>>157525026

I wouldn't mind if they would make this a series of films where they just do a slightly adjusted versions of the story arcs in a movie format. Like Cibo tags along Killy after the elevator and they head towards Toha.
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>>157524835
Try harder
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>>157525081
Small dark hall ways with twists and turns and just distant sounds and falling metal without knowing if there's a silicone creature or Cibo around the bend?
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>>157525094
If I was gonna do a movie I'd start at the elevator girl scene and modify her design a tiny bit to make it clear she isn't Cibo. Tiny bit of expository dialogue from her about what Killy's looking for, allude to the "it's 6000 levels up" thing and then begin the 2-hour walkathon. End the movie at the end of the Toha Heavy Industries Arc. 20 minutes of intro, 20 minutes of freeing Cibo, 80 minutes of Toha Heavy Industries, maybe a little more.

That should be enough time to introduce Sanakan, show alternate timeline Cibo, show what fucking assholes the Silicon life is, show SEU being an autistic white knight, have some trippy netsphere sequences, etc.
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>>157525124
About an hour of walking with Cibo enjoying the vastness of the landscapes and then Sanakan kicked my ass. Woke up right before I got needled.
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I don't like how the Safeguards were portrayed in the movie. I felt there were too many shots of them scuttling weirdly in a straight line. They didn't feel as creepy as I would have wanted.
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>>157525206
You're a safeguard now anon. Don't go back to base reality.
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>>157522034
Is there an artbook of the movie already?
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>>157525215
I concur. If you look at/read the CGWORLD article and some of the other stuff on the matter, you see that they didn't really put much effort into the Safeguards' movement. They put like 8 different possible running frames, which is ridiculous.
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>>157525215
They were too clean, I always imagine them as being this horrendous mixture of biologic and robotic functions and slight bloat, here they just looked like robots.
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>>157525236
I just want to snuggle with Cibo, why does the safeguard keep cucking me?
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>>157525180

You could easily explain away that Cibo finds yet another new body for her from somewhere and catches up with Killy. Maybe even use the idea of the manga that she outright steals Sanakan's body for herself.

Not sure about the walk-a-thon though, since Toha by itself would be a decent enough independent arc for a 2 hour movie. And theres plenty to walk around there, especially in the Gravity-Furnace sub-arc.
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>>157524347
>>157524696
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>>157525260
I always imagined them as moving really slowly and deliberately when they weren't attacking, and having a kind of weightless grace contrasted with the body horror of the sleek plastic faces and covering and the greasy/spiny/slick organic frames.
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>>157525258
I don't think there is
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>>157525263

Eh, I though they were fine. I just wish we would've seen more than just exterminators and Sanakan. Like the weird priest dudes in the Netsphere backup space.

Silicon creatures are the more "fleshy" ones, whereas Safeguard tend to be the murderous robot dolls with religious visual theme to them.
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>>157525333
I agree, again.
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>>157520775
she wants to be violently impregnated by her savior after narrowly avoiding a brutal death
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>>157525341
I'm just wondering where the design sheet popped up from. I can only find it in a lower res from some Chinese news site, too.
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>>157524982
God that's sexy. Stupid sexy clean prosthetics.
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>>157525105
But who will take responsibility?
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So some of you think Cibo and Sanakan could be recreated? weren't their consciousnesses and data completely destroyed after Killy fullpower'd the first-class?
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>>157524616
hugs
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>>157525755
>weren't their consciousnesses and data completely destroyed after Killy fullpower'd the first-class?
No, the lady in the backup world is almost certainly made of at least part of either one of them.
They're both still around in some form.
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>>157525395
I grabbed it from the 2chan BLAME! threads.
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Why didn't killy shoot Sanakan when he was aiming at her from the stairs?
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>>157526212
Couldn't get a good aim from that far away? After a second she was obscured by debris.
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>>157526212
People were between them and he didn't have a clear visual.
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>>157525263
There wasn't enough grunge and hardly any of the brutal gore in the manga done to the fishermen. Nor were there any bugs or any of the nano-scale reconstruction or roughshod bio-mechanical visions. Maybe it comes down to budget but it was another thing absent with the time constraints for giving proper scale and bleakness.
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Cibo is tall!
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I think we've had more Blame threads in the last few days than we had in the whole previous year. Feels good.
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>>157525389
I laughed
>it's true to
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>>157526212
The same icons that appear in Sanakan's HUD when she's using wallhacks to blast people through the building appear behind her in Killy's HUD, meaning that he sees the villagers behind her. The red circle displayed shows the blast radius of the GBE, and there would be a lot of collateral damage if he took the shot. He's not completely heartless
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>>157520066
They've rendered all the planets down into raw materials, and its stated at one point in either Blame itself or Noise that raw materials continue to be shipped in from beyond the city.
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>>157519574
Blame is definitely worth the read, just don't expect to get much exposition. They crammed a large chunk of all the exposition leading up to and including the Electro-fisher story (which takes place in volume 3) into the film, and adapted other parts to fit Cibo in without going through her entire story (volume 2).

They still did a pretty good job all things considered. I like the Cibo maintains her habit of going through bodies like most people go through socks.
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>>157525333
Yeah, crab scuttling wasn't what I had in mind.
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>>157526831
The movie revives the franchise, whether we like it or not. I watch the movie with my 50s Dad and he likes it. He went nuts when the cowboy song came out. Gave me money for blu-ray if it's out. Both of us speak Japanese. Anyone knows when will release be ?
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>>157526740
>that Zuru
Truly made for breeding. I bet she had lots of children.
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>>157527539
You see that thigh-gap on the men?
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>>157527539
I hope the Taefag didn't get to reproduce.
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Post more Sanakan.
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>>157528244
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>>157528244
Sanakan is too op
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So I guess Cibo is cool hanging out with the electrofishers as an Arm forever?

Doesn't seem to mesh well with her ambitious nature and general lack of empathy (at least in the film).
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I want more nihei but I've already read and watched everything.
This is an unpleasant feeling.
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>>157522960
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>>157525022
Yes, and you have the /co/ scanners to thank for that.
Must admit I find it hilarious that OP is asking for raw scans because the official, Nihei-sanctioned name "Kyrii" triggers them that much.
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>>157522647
anon, it is no longer accessible. Can you do sth?
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>>157528527
sekrit club?
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>>157528533
Works fine for me, though while don't you just get it here >>157528527 ?
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>>157528553
I have no idea if it's supposed to be sekrit o not (registration is open after all), but yeah.
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>>157528527
But Killy was on the old color volume covers.
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This film got me into finally looking for the Master Edition in my local book store.
Holy shit you guys, it's huge!
And thick.
And expensive ($35 in my country).
Smooth paper with nice color contrast too.
I'm in love.`
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>>157528562
Ok I am newfag catched by the netflix film, please sponfeedme where is that senpai.
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>>157528611
And Nihei decided to change it. Deal with it, man. Not that big of a thing.
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>>157528692
>Holy shit you guys, it's huge!
>And thick.
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>>157528692
It's 20£ which is quite expensive when you consider the whole series. 10 books so 200£ ? I am contemplanting.
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>>157525956
>They're both still around in some form.

Because some atoms that were once parts of dinosaurs are now parts of people means dinosaurs are still around?
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Rekt.
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>>157528788
Rude!
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>>157528788

Dhomo never got his revenge on this guy
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According to this site its gonna be 28€ in germany, with a new translation. Hopefully they retain Killy

http://www.cross-cult.de/titel/blame-1-master-edition.html
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>>157528787
No, because a character we see in the manga explicitly says that she has some of their memories.
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>>157528752
I think it's 2 in 1 so you gonna spend 100 brits for whole series. Not bad at all.
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>>157528722
This. Don't bother him about it.
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>>157523798
It has nothing to do with being 2D animation or 3D animation its about poor timing and not having skilled animators who know how to produce limited animation that still looks good. Nobody complains about the "frame rate" for anime because 2D animators have a lot of experience in dealing with this shit. 3D animators generally have a different skill set that mostly doesn't include knowledge like that. The majority of applications of 3D are in settings where limited animation is not desirable.
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>>157525395
It's probably from the book that is coming out with all the art that Nihei has done for the film in it.
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>>157520370
>meanwhile inside Killy's head
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>>157523159
He looks apathetic to me.
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I want to Zuru Zuru's Zurus?
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>>157522997
>Proxy poster in the background

cute
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Gay as fuck
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>>157522997
it would be funny if ergo proxy and this were linked, humans return to earth and suddenly vincent is nothing special becomes a regular builder in the megastructure then forgets even himself after awhile
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>>157529252
I want to fuck Zuru so badly.
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>>157529252

Oh look, its Zuru and the Useless Shit being all friends with each other!
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>there will never be a handdrawn, slow paced adaptation of Blame! that truly captures the size and emptiness of the city.
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>>157529252
so they have molecular tapes but no material for clothes
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>>157529656
Ergo Proxy has that vibe and it's gorgeous
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>>157529656
manga has slow paced parts but it also have lots of fast paced sequences with really bad paneling
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>>157529656
>that image

jesus.
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>pregnant heroine
>no preggo sex fanart or doujins anywhere

What the fuck someone recitify this
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>>157529766
I don't understand it.
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>>157529833
why don't you recognize them?
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>>157529887
Oh, now i do.
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>>157529413
In my mind, their child will act like that lewd female elf in that webcomic to the good orc/Killy. Speaking of which, it's a shame we never saw how their child look like.
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>>157529950
but we know how pcell's granddaughter looks like
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>>157528244
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It makes me really happy to see Blame! in the spotlight again
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>>157528244

There is something very beautiful about this robot doing her job and enjoying it. God I am in love.
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>>157530107
I hope they won't allow a (japanese) live action
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>>157530159
What emotion is that face trying to convey?
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so why did they turn this into matrix revelations
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OTP
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BIOMEGA WHEN
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>>157521691
>hollywood invented the "mysterious stranger"
kek
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>>157520263
Yes. It was the first thing I thought of when he took like 10 seconds to reply
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>>157530220
How would you feel about a Hollywood adaptation? This seems like the sort of thing they could adapt without mangling it too much.
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>>157530433
>This seems like the sort of thing they could adapt without mangling it too much.
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>>157530329
By this same studio? Hopefully never.

Biomega was even more violent than BLAME; can you imagine how hard they'd have to try to censor that? Cinematic angles and lens flares everywhere to hide the blood, and the DRF's butcher uniform would probably be made to look like ice cream salesmen.
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>>157530466
I stand by my statement. A third of Oblivion is literally just Tom Cruise wandering a blasted out Earth
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>>157530433
it might work if they work with the author
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>>157530433
A budget large enough would necessitate too much pandering to wider audiences and all the things that make Blame! as good as it is would be forsaken (slow pacing, subtlety, challenging plot, atmosphere, character design, gore, etc. etc.)

The closest live action I can think that would be the right sort of direction is Tarkovsky's Stalker.
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>>157518219
You shouldn't lift things with your back!
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Is Nihei's new manga any good? I don't see anyone talking about it anymore.
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>>157531011
It's only got 3 chapters, there isn't much to discuss
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Does governing agency and safeguard have physical headquarters somewhere in the city? They all can't be living in the virtual space. They must've have someone guarding their HDD
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>>157531063
I cant remember if its ever said but id imagine they have so many "main bases" and back up servers that its futile to even try to disable to whole network. Destroy one and itll just make a new one somewhere else.
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I thought it was said the whole of the netsphere is housed within the megastructure
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>>157531063
safeguard are mostly autonomous
governing agency cannot control them and probably don't want to anyway
they are necessary for order
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Daddy you are suck
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>>157531355
How old is his daughter
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>>157531335
More importantly, why don’t the Safegtuard fix the city themselves?

They are self aware AIs, right?
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>>157531529
I guess the towers are not linked to a central ai. They keep attacking people without NTG even after the birth of NTR kid
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>>157531476
Old enough to know better.
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>>157531355

Why do nippons have such shit taste?
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>>157526740
but she should be even taller
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>>157531632
she is a kid and female
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>>157531588
If they are self aware and intelligent, shouldn’t they eventually reach the conclusion that city is fucked and killing harmless people is wrong?
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>>157531689
Blame the original humans for coding such a retarded AI.
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>>157531689
only the special safeguards are self aware
others act simply as an immune system
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>>157529723
If only it wasn't so vapid.
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>>157531689
Safeguard literally doesn't care about anything else other than eliminating squatters. At least until Domo and Iko were deployed by someone who wasn't a completely braindead safeguard high ranking officer. Even then they were sent to a dead level where they can't do much anyway except Domo boinking Pcell on daily basis
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>>157531995
Speaking of Dhomo and Pcell, when was it stated they were meeting with each other?
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>>157531995
>>157532053
wait what?!
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>>157531995
Why would you make such system in the first place?

Were the netsphere coders retarded?
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>>157532232
Every single human had the net terminal gene before things went tits up, so the designers probably thought that those without it weren't human so fuck them. Or maybe the plague fucked the safeguard system
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>>157532232
Probably doesn't include the complete mutation of the entire human race as a variable
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>>157531529

Their directives override everything. Kinda like how Killy never really says "fuck it, this is impossible!", but continues his quest for all eternity.

Its an anti-spyware/antivirus program that has gone nuts, and proclaimed anyone who lacks the Net Terminal Genes as a target. You can kinda see from Dhomo and Iko that Safeguard used to protect people.

For some reason Safeguard became the Judge Death of Blame!
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>>157532053
>>157532141
Don't questions the OTP
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>>157532232
>>157532301
I read noise, for some reason safe guards disable all other login methods but the one that requires the check of ntg
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>>157532314
That why you’d give such system true intelligence. To have a chance it will deal with an unexpected situation in reasonable way.
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Everytime I see a blame thread I must post how beautiful Cibo is!
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>>157530159
We love strong and independent women, Anon!
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CIBO CIBO CIBO
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>>157532775
>independent

If ypou have the the net genes, you can make her your sex slave, she’d give you rimjobs anytime you want, including straight after you took a shit.
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>>157532884
Now take responsibility for my boner, Anon!
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>>157532884
If an anon had NTG in blame world, silly cones would probably murderfuck them out of him before he'd be able to find a terminal to log in
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The whole BLAME soundtrack is on youtube already.
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>>157532592
>That why you’d give such system true intelligence
It's actually a compelling reason to not do such a thing, you give it a reasonable ability to adapt but if you make it truly intelligent then it will simply act on self-preservation/self serving instincts.
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>>157533058
And it's pretty damn good.
>that track when Killy and Sanakan crash into the ground and the burning rubble falls down around them.
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>>157533079
Only if you write it down as part of the AI
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>>157530159
Is this a posed look?
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>>157533079
>it will simply act on self-preservation/self serving instincts.

Humans are perfectly able to supress these instincts because of, for example, loyalty.
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>>157533058
Surprised nobody has linked this yet.
>>>/m/15546842
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>>157521362
Whos is the head supposed to be?
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Anyone has that post about Blame! history. I am in volume 5 and completely lost myself how this story goes. First Cibo steals Sanakan's boi body then, killy gets teleported, now we meet another Cibo. This shit lost me.
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>>157533371
one of the cibo clones i think
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>>157533182
Loyalty to what? Programmers who told you their race's priorities trumped your own existence? You can't project human behaviour on true AI because until it exists, nobody knows what it'll do.
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Why was Tea so fucking useless?
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Sanakan, Cibo...

I want a robot harem!
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The manga is called BLAME! because the gun makes BLAM when it shoots, so why does it do FWOOSH in the movie? I didn't pay to hear FWOOSH. Well I didn't pay anything at all to watch this movie but you know I would have preferred to hear some BLAMING instead FWOOSHING because there is a time and place for BLAM and FWOOSH and this was definitely a BLAM scenario here.
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>>157533416
The writer will determine the hirachy of needs of such a AI.
You could create a sex robot with selfawareness and that sex robot could go full Descartes but it would still want to suck his master's dick all day.
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>>157533442
But they don't got no holes for you to stick it in
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>>157533603
cibo is a scientist a million years in the future
i'm sure she could whip something up
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>>157533603
Both have a cute mouth.

Also technology will find a way
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>>157533121
True intelligence requires those aspects, without our instincts we'd be dead.
>Humans are perfectly able to supress these instincts because of, for example, loyalty.
Except that we're the species most likely to betray.
Let's hypothetically create a literal god, a god that we know for certain created us; we then find out we're actually better than god in practically every way but we're still expected to serve under him. What do you think we as a race would do?
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>>157533752
latter part meant for
>>157533182
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>>157533603
Does KIlly have dick:?
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>>157533897
yes
there's concept art of him naked and you can see his dick
>>
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>>157533942
Genocide has never been this cute
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>>157533939
Can he get hard?
>>
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>>157534029
ask nihei on twitter
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Just finished the first volume of the manga after watching and enjoying the film.

The main difference besides plot I would say I noticed is that the world in the manga just comes across as so much more fucked up and disturbing in all sorts of ways. Both conceptually and viscerally through the encounters with other beings and things implied in conversations.
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>>157533942
>>157534068
>you'll never be exterminated by Sanakan
Why even die?
>>
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>>157534314
That looks awful.
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>>157534297
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>>157534508
3:
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>>157525026
Aren't we getting a series based on this or something?
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>>157534706

If there is a God...
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>kyrii
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>>157528244
>Sanakan will never step on your face
Why even live?
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>>157535149
>Sanakan will never give you this look as she dominates you
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Those retina HUDs and holographic displays looked sweet as fuck.
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>>157536879
A lot of the things that were done in this movie couldn't have been done well without CGI

The biggest problem to me was inconsistency, really. Especially with the framerate. Some shots were perfectly smooth while others were choppy as hell and that was kinda jarring.

Otherwise it looked really good for the most part.
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>>157537013
>2 safeguards on screen running, everything is alright, silky smooth 20fps
>zoom out, you can now see 3 safeguards running, 3fps, it's a complete debacle
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>>157537013

What's the name of the new manga Tsutomu Nihei.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2G6tUq4Rxw

Drums at 1:05
The beginning reminds me of..Portal?
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>>157521693
>this video is unavailable
Did they prune it already?

Also by best girl you mean Cibo, right
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>>157537280
Aposimz
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>>157537280
Ningyo no Kuni
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>>157531011
I like that MC transforms into a kamen rider looking gauna
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Why the fuck did I think Nihei drew Fire Punch
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>>157534508
WATASHI WA SANAKAN
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>>157537439
More like Tron legacy
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so is aposimz connected to sidonia
one of the other ships mentioned in sidonia is called aposimz
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>>157522062
Everyone has bolt asses in the future
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>kills half a village
>please step on me too!

Being a M is great
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>>157522062
Robutt
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>>157537966
Oh you are right.
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Is it true that there's art of Killy naked, dick included?
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Blame is now a Western/old Samurai flick.

That worked too well.
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>>157538025
I remember someone saying that the manga is about a planet people from the Aposimz eventually settled.
Not sure if it's true though.
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>>157538025
Nihei famously recycles names and designs from his earlier works
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>>157520066
They figured out how to grab resources from alternate dimensions.
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>mfw reading those weird side stories from the Blame! And so on artbook
I found the one with the miniature humanoids getting completely fucked to be more disturbing than most of the dehumanizing, existentialist concepts of the main manga
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>>157538993
OTP
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Nier Automata anime movie when
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>>157523178
>>157524792
>>157528244

First Nier Automata, and now BLAME!, is 2017 the Year of the Robutt?
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>>157539449
Slowed
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>>157539506
I want to hug her!
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>>157518219
>Thought this was gonna be shit
>Turns out to be amazing

I was kinda against an adaptation because it didn't seem BLAME would translate well into anime format.
But by making it its own thing and shifting focus away from Killy a bit it worked out a lot better than expected.


Also the actual animation was well done. A big improvement over Sidonia.
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>>157518219
Why is it called Blame?
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>>157522034
>robot
>no vagina
>will never give birth
>female hips

Whut?
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>>157539734
It's like you didn't notice robo-tits and robo-heels.
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>>157539730
It's a psychological thriller about a married couple blaming each other.
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>>157520370
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>>157520984
I understood that it meant the Safeguard wouldn't make back up of her if she died, Killy or someone else could do it though, the Safeguard just cut her loose
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>>157539730
It's meant to be Blam for obvious reasons but Japan can't into English spelling
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>>157531529
>>157531689
Safeguard are designed to kill so they can't so anything else. It's like asking an Apache helicopter to fix a brige.

Domo and Iko were an older generation of Safeguard that had intelligence before the system automated. Perhaps, the old safeguard were more or less human or at least have human cognitive and soul. Modern safeguard can't do that because all humans were "banned" from the system for not having the right gene.

I'm pretty sure Pcell used to be a safeguard to know Domo or at least there were a safeguard that resemble her. Obviously, the silicons hijack safeguard data of pcell and cucked Domo out of his waifu.
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>>157521175
This world is created by Mensaab as a safe space for the people in Toha heavy industry.
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>>157526740
I just noticed that the Fishermen are all on the tip of their toes, I guess that is the way their feet are now because of their need to keep scaling shit and jumping
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Anyone know where i can read aposimz.

Also BLAME! done in the same way that mushishi was with 10/10 backgrounds would be great.
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Is that a single movie or series?
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>>157540099

To bad all the silicon life gets cucked out of the mega-structure by the humans at the end of the series.
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>>157531063
The City itself is the HDD, as Iko said, the netsphere cables and access is weaved in the structure itself and sealed away from access and before you think that earth is theyr HQ, the thing is at the very center of the City and is subjected to hellish climate and gravity
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>>157540359
single movie
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>>157537677
Did she died?
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>>157540099
>I'm pretty sure Pcell used to be a safeguard to know Domo or at least there were a safeguard that resemble her. Obviously, the silicons hijack safeguard data of pcell and cucked Domo out of his waifu.
Its more likely that Pcell just knew him before Davine started her plan since Domo didn't look like he was given all the directives all Safeguard units are given
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why is she so cute
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>>157540552
I believe so.
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My mom is interested in watching the Blame! movie with me and the siblings. Is there like nudity or other kinds of major lewdness in it? I'd like to know before I recommended it for movie night. Violence is a-ok though.
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>>157540723
BIG boobies all the time friendo
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>rereading manga after movie
>Killy is always showing surprise, sometimes irritation, even smiles, and at one points starts cackling

Why was movie Killy such an autist?
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>>157540723
Most of the female characters are pretty stacked, but theres no nudity

If your mom can stomach cg robo cleavage then it should be ok
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>>157540740
>>157540814
All right so nothing too out of the ordinary. We watched Ghost in the Shell also so its probably gonna be fine.
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>>157523159
>>157529228
He is supposed to be braindamaged.
In the original he was fucked up until Sanakans's poison made him reboot.
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>>157540579
That's a massive change btw.
The original Sana always looked kinda sad and unwilling or something.
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So did any new fanart come out since release?

Maybe announcements for some lewd doujins for next comiket?
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>>157521691
This is what I liked most about it.

I wish there was a better dub, though. The voice acting was pretty cringy in some cases, and often didn't seem to capture what the characters' expressions were portraying. Especially for the hothead electrofisher guy.
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Who shoots Killy at the end of volume 10, is it the safeguard?
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>>157539506
Sanakan after telling her that you love her
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>>157540576
It does seem strange since silicon are never ever in good term with non-silicon like safeguard or human. It seems unlikely that Domo and Pcell would mingle unless they used to be on the same side somehow. Pcell inexplicably also have power that inconsistent with other silicon such as summoning safeguard-like minions and gravity sword. All of that points to her past as safeguard model to me.
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>>157540811
Killy was like that only for the first few volumes. By the end of the manga he is pretty much like he is in the movie
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>>157541036
Things change in adaptations. But with Nihei being so close to Polygon Pictures I bet everything is welcomed by him.
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>>157541146

Yes notice how the collar of the guy has the safeguard symbol on it
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>all the people who want robo sex with Sanakan

There is still for good taste on /a/
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I hope they release the game to the public.
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>>157541319
Ehh, we had that silicon life observer who was just annoyed the safeguard didn't let him analyze the tower and he didn't give a shit about Killy and just told him to go away because he was distracting him.

By being in a dead section of the City the Silicon Life there must not have shared too much information, hell, Davine didn't even really care about fucking up teh City, she said she just wanted to see what the netsphere looked like and accidentally downloaded the Level 9 with Pcell trying ot help Killy to stop the Level 9 from destroying the whole area
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>>157541426
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>>157540343
The volume sold really well in Amazon jp. Only raw is available.
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>all those Nihei threads everyday
I don't know if this is a good thing.
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>>157540858
The 1995 one right mate ?
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Anyone else think that the movie's GBE just didn't have the right feel?

Like the beam was way too wide and kinda slow. Also it felt like it was more of a plasma weapon or something hot rather than the sort of " thin beam of force that punches a giant hole in anything" of the manga.
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>>157541415
>there are people on /a/ that wouldn't go tier 5 or above
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Any brit a, BLAME master edt is 30% off in Amazon UK.
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>>157541625
Mostly 3 with 4 on special occasions
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>>157541554
The hubub will die down in a less than a week or so probably, I mean we've already gone from multiple threads in a day to one thread a day, won't be long before we get no threads in any given day.

>>157541426
>>157541503
Looks like it's probably some on rails scripted crap that won't actually be good for doing anything other than a VR demo. It would be nice if I was wrong however.
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>>157541036
her movie face looks a bit more like she did when she was heel - face turned in the last volumes of the manga
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>>157541630
>"Kyrii"
Is it the same translationas the burgers?

I'm glade I bought the japanese edition.
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>>157541616
Yeah it seemed like they nerfed it pretty hard too. It would have been nice if they had kept the massive structural damage it inflicts every time Killy pulls the trigger.
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>>157541616
thin beam of force , that caused a fuckhuge explosion a few hundret meters ahead
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>>157541941
70km to be precise.
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>>157541882
Kinda disappointed that there wasn't a Limter off scene. That would've made me diamonds.
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Is there a Japanese version of this?

The English VAs are absolute dogshit, but they're all I can find.
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>>157542225
what?
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>>157542225
The rip I got from nyaa has dual audio. I dunno how to or even if you can enable alt audio tracks on Netflix though.
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>>157542225
>blame! dubbed
WHAT? Don't watch it please.
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>>157525215
Same.
Something was clearly wrong with their "faces"
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>>157524792
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>>157542569
The red eyes were the problem.
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>>157542607
Robot forehead pussy?
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>>157542353
You can, and it's extremely easy.
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>>157542607
L-lewd!
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>>157526740
She should be like 220 or something
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I finally watched it.
It was much less disappointing than I expected.
The streamlined story plays better with the oneshot/movie format.
The sceneries were good.
CGI was a bit uncanny, laughable at times, expecially for people, but it's not like you watch a Blame movie for the ningens.

Worst part is actually all the waifufagging that has been going on nonstop lately.
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How the fuck does the megastructure even work?
Where the fuck are they getting the material to build it?
How big is it actually?
How does it look from outside?
Why did they even decided to build it?
Does it just float around randomly in space or does it orbit around the sun?
And what about the sun actually? Does it just float around somewhere in the structure?
Why can't Killy just build a spaceship, blast a hole to the outside and fuck off to some better world?
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>>157543125

Read the manga nigger. It will answer all your questions.
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>>157543125
Filthy secondary.
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>>157543125
It just does
Literally from thin air
Really big
It's kinda lumpy with holes and strange growth on it as builders build more shit. It's also blue for some reason
Because why not?
I don't think there is a sun anymore
Because that's not his mission

Read the manga
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>>157543125
>How the fuck does the megastructure even work?
Space magic
>Where the fuck are they getting the material to build it?
Canibalising planets, asteroids and moons
>How big is it actually?
Outer-solar ring (presumably Saturn), maybe further.
>How does it look from outside?
Dyson Sphere
>Why did they even decided to build it?
It was never meant to reach this point, Dyson Sphere.
>Does it just float around randomly in space or does it orbit around the sun?
Dyson Sphere
>And what about the sun actually? Does it just float around somewhere in the structure?
Dyson Sphere
>Why can't Killy just build a spaceship, blast a hole to the outside and fuck off to some better world?
Because he can't build one and he has a minimum of an 8.5 AU walk ahead of him.
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>>157543125
the city is as big as fuck knows, there are rooms that are big planet size in it
humans invented infinite energy and energy to matter conversion
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>>157543125
the megastructure was built around the sun, and it's about the size of the solar system
they get materials from space, and they can convert energy into matter
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>>157543227
It won't answer many of them honestly, it'll just put the absurdity of scale into perspective.
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>>157543125
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>>157543306

Not really answer them, but give enough information for you to make a good guess at what happens.
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Is the Megastructure (what separates levels from each other) basically indestructible without a GBE?
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>>157543336
What are those holes?
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>>157543430
Yes, but you can just take an elevator if you happen to find one
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>>157543471
And then you push the button and safeguards come and kill you.
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>>157543519
Unless it's one of those special elevators that don't really care
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Uranus or Neptune perhaps?
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>>157543430
Yes, as seen in Sidonia.
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>exterminate all illegal residents
This is why you don't let right wingers design your AI.
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>>157543336
is that space or water ?
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>>157543125
nigger you don't understand how huge it is
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>>157543838
It's all inside of the city - no space, only city.
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>>157543838
That's the edge of the city, you can see space here >>157543618
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>>157543911
but in the last panels he ends up in a place that seems like underwater
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>>157543949
Builders fill the top levels with water as they build more, Killy floats outside the city into space
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>>157544006
does not looks like space to me
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>>157544075
I think that's supposed to be a new level under construction
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>>157543868
>jupiter room is a dot
KEK

>>157543954
>chilling out observing the structure
>gets fucked by a GBE shot
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>>157544075
They could literally fill the future floors with water + some gravity shit to keep it together.
That or the megastructure happened to be near a planet.
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>>157543868
was the 5.2 au ever actually confirmed? Because Jupiter itself is 5.2 AU from the Sun, that wouldn't fit and there is no other reason for there to be a nearly exact size hole of jupiter as a room.
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When the movie showed the small bar of dehydrated food turn into a huge meal, I was expecting a scene where Killy eats a whole bar as if it was a snack, shocking everyone around him. There was that scene in the manga where Killy finds a supersized generator and drains all of its battery like it was nothing. Instead of having little need for sustenance, as expressed in the movie, canonically it seems he has huge energy reserves.
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For someone new to Blame! what scans/site are the best version to check out?
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anybody else kind of hate the movie? while the visual style and design was pretty cool, they did some really cool moments too but

hearing
>tae
>tae
>tae
>tae...

over and over, plus the weird pace of it kind of killed it for me after a while. it was really only like a small microcosm of what BLAME is supposed to actually be. then they wrapped it up in some like generic animu bullshit.
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>>157544075
The dots are the stars.
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>>157544494
had to be done in order to appeal to the netflix normalfags
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>>157544339
>there is no other reason for there to be a nearly exact size hole of jupiter as a room
Why not?

>>157544471
bokunogoogle.com

>>157544494
You're just autist, that's all.
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I want to see Dhomochevsky and Silicon Life animated
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>>157544584
I want Seu and Mensab.
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>>157543125
>Where the fuck are they getting the material to build it?

Higgs field conversion, zero-point energy, parallel worlds, teleportation...the Net Sphere has extremely advanced technology

>Why did they even decided to build it?

The Net Sphere is in chaos and expanding erratic, as the Net expands so does the Megastructure
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>>157544610
>>157544584
I want both just as much as each other
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>>157544075
I always assumed these things at the top were stars, indicating the end of Killy's journey. There is also an unusual amount of algae in this scene, almost like Killy found himself in the middle of a forest, which I think is an hint that this place is receiving natural "daylight" from the distant stars and growing an ecosystem.
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>>157544451
They used the energy banks in the movie but they turned them into the factory
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>>157544185
>gets fucked by a GBE shot
It wasn't, Killy started carrying around a laser to deal with the smaller and weaker threats, he saved the GBE to safeguards
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>>157544451
He did that because he had just spent a few centuries regenerating and he done playing around, he just woke up to see that he lost both the NTG and Cibo, he was pretty angry, so he charged himself to max and went after them
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>>157544786

Why did he killed him? Just for being a Silicon Cyborg?
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>>157544871
Yep
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>>157544871
As far as we could tell, yeah.
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>they didn't do the scene where Killy passively scans a crowd and identifies a safeguard posing as human
just fuck me up senpai
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>>157544871
You have to understand that Killy was going through a very rought patch at the time
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>>157544871
Yes, Killy is a dick to Silicones
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>>157544964
posting the rest because I love this sequence
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>>157544964
I think Sanakan only showed him her back the whole time
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>>157545012
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>>157544573
>Why not?
Well Jupiter should be where that room, it's far too logical for the builders to have made it, that should put the megastructure at more than 5.2AU.
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>>157545011
Because they keep interfering with his mission, he even help Pcell 2 when she was about to die, appearing out of nowhere and killing the exterminators going after her and carrying her to safety
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>>157544718
>I always assumed these things at the top were stars, indicating the end of Killy's journey.
He was only half done tho
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>>157545041
>>157545033
clever girl
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>>157544871
>>157545011
The silly cones are just wannabe safeguards, thinking they're hip and cool just because their transhuman penis is made of composite material. They all deserve to get ningen'd
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>>157545101

The look in their eyes...

Is it that they can't comprehend what's happening?

Or are they just resigned to their fate?
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>>157541616
I remember it shooting gravity, not lasers.
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>>157545050
People came with it rought size because there is a room with the size of at least Jupiter and its said the City has etern beyond Jupiter

>>157544718
He didn't drift to space, he probably came to a window like in pic related and could just look outside
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>>157545248
It shoots a laser that unravels the gravity that holds everything into place that it passes trough.
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>>157545239
They've gone full russian. "Was petting girl, now arm is gone, such is life in the megastructure."
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>>157545033
Nah, he couldn't understand the writing on his retinal display before.
After he woke up in the village he started scanning people since he finally understood what all that mumbo jumbo on his display now and Sanakan and Cibo had just returned from Toha.
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>>157545326
>People came with it rought size because there is a room with the size of at least Jupiter and its said the City has etern beyond Jupiter
Yeah I get that but Jupiter is at 5.2AU, if it was exactly 5.2AU like the picture would state then the hole would be right at the edge/the edge itself. Saturn or Uranus are more likely to be the endpoints.
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>>157545389
I was talking about the movie where he already understands and SanakanqTae kept her back to him
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>>157545087

That't the thing though...
After reading NOiSE, all of BLAME!, watching that shitty WOA and now movie and reading many pages of online "documentation and explanation" about the BLAME!'s world three most important questions are left unanswered:

1. What happened to all the people in the NetSphere? Living their (happy?) life in "matrix"? Dead? In some kind of sleep or hibernation?

2. How Cibo's child got Net Terminal Genes? Somehow extracted as data during Davine's messing with provisional access to the NetSphere and somehow transferred to Cibo?

3. Now that Killy has the child, where he is supposed to take it to make a successful NetSphere connection and bring back order and structure to the world?
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>>157545457
The last one is common sense, the first useable terminal.
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>>157545457

1. Safeguards stopped killing humans and stop the expansion. Matrix poeple, I have no idea what happen to them.
2. From Davine. Yes.
3.I am sure he completed the mission.
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>>157545457
2.
i think it's because cibe fused seu genes into herself and conceived the child together with sanakan
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>>157545536
Than that shouldn't be too hard. There are a lot of them scattered around.
So then The child can talk to Governing Agency and stop human extermination and then, probably access the NetSphere itself and somehow reconnect it's inhabitants to the system. Also, maybe allow humans in Base Reality to connect too and, finally, exterminate Silicon life.
Good Ending #1
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>>157545457
>How Cibo's child got Net Terminal Genes? Somehow extracted as data during Davine's messing with provisional access to the NetSphere and somehow transferred to Cibo?
If I recall right, that's basically what happened. the genes were re-downloaded into Cibo's new level 9 killbot body. And then I think Sanakan or someone else added an extra component that made the genes for a complete net terminal human or something.
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>>157545457
>2. How Cibo's child got Net Terminal Genes? Somehow extracted as data during Davine's messing with provisional access to the NetSphere and somehow transferred to Cibo?
Cibo got it downloaded into her together with the Level 9 Safeguard, she also probably used some of the knowledge and data she got from Sanakan in the 25 years she spent in the alternate universe while the NTG was from Seu

>3. Now that Killy has the child, where he is supposed to take it to make a successful NetSphere connection and bring back order and structure to the world?
I believe its said to be the first terminal he could find
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>>157545661
Yes and no, on the sequel they discover that each Charging tower has to be deactivated manually and the dude is going around doing precisely that, its also safe for him because the Safeguard can't do anything to him and the Silicon Life fled the megastructure
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>>157545457
Personally I think the child got the Net Terminal Genes from Seu. He was the purest human we saw in the whole story, the humans from Toha Heavy Industry were entirely isolated space from the rest of the Megastructure. Mensab gave Seu's DNA sample of Killy and Cibo for that reason. They lacked the equipment to analyze it and determine if he had Net Terminal Genes but it was incredibly likely that he did. Cibo was carrying the DNA samples when transformed into a high level safeguard and it affected her transformation, creating the "pregnancy orb" to protect the net genes.
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>>157545536
iko says that people with the net terminal gene dont need to use terminals and can access the net from anywhere
>>
I can't stop listening to Cibo's theme.
>>
>$30 weedbucks for each volume of the master edition
Damn, I want a physical copy so badly.
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>>157545536
>>157545838
Maybe the child needs to become an adult to use the Net Terminal Genes. He could need a more developed brain in order to understand how to do it. The Net could also have an age-restriction for creating a connection, I suppose it would be silly if a newborn could destroy cities. So maybe at the end Killy isn't taking the child somewhere in particular, he could just be looking around for food and equipment and a safe place to stay, and there's a chance he needs to always be on the run since safeguard assassins are after him.
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>>157545457
I might be alone in this but I don't think the kid has Net Terminal Genes

Having NTG means you can interface with the Net Sphere without the need of any outside help.

The kid probably just has a normal genome
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>>157546245

Blame 2 said the the city stop expanding.
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>>157546196
>The Net could also have an age-restriction for creating a connection
yeah it's full of safeguard porn
have to be over 157680 hours old to access the net
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I always thought that net terminal genes meant that you would have information access to the net sphere (hence the whole have you ever seen text across your vision question killy asked everyone) but to do more than that you'd need to actually find an access port.
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>>157546196
>>157545838
It also depends on whether the netsphere and base reality actually grow at the same rate, if Killy is right at the edge there may not be any concept of netsphere influence but I don't remember if it was safeguards or sillicons in the last chapter.
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>>157546196
This seems plausible.
So when the child is ready, he/she will connect to NetSphere and end all of the chaos.

Still, what about all those people already uploaded in the NetSphere?
I always liked to believe that they are fine, just disconnected from the Base reality but it's nowhere explicitly said. It would be pretty sad if they are all dead.
I remember some chapter where Cibo somehow ends up in some sort of backup NetSphere-like space where she finds all the residents in some kind of hibernation (or dead - can't really recall) but I don't remember if that Backup cyber space is still connected to NetSphere or not.

Also, how Cibo finally conceives a child with the Net Terminal Genes is still poorly explained in my opinion. But, eh, I guess all just go with Sanakan+Seu+Cibo+Davine+NetSphere+Magic
explanation.
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>>157546442
Porn is the smallest concern, with the NTG you can download a harem of safeguard waifus. No teenager should hold that power, their penis would explode.
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>>157545087
Not really, as NSE and Blame!2 shown, he only had to escort the NTG girl a short way before they stopped the builders and Safeguards.
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>>157546245
No, they flat out said that Killy needed to take the kid to a working terminal to initiate a connection. Blame2 and Net Sphere Engineer both confirm that Humanity has regained control of the Megastructure and are in the process of exterminating both the Safeguard and Silicon Life.
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>>157545414
Honestly, I always felt like the end point for Killy's journey was Pluto, because back then, it was the final planet of our solar system and then the realization that Killy walked all the way across the solar system.
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>>157546643
It's possible it extends that far, we geunuinely don't know.
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>>157546572
I believe this is correct. The humanity in Base Reality is in the restoration of the order and civilization process.
Still no word from the people trapped inside the NetSphere. ;_;
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>>157546722
Dubs reached the bump limit.
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>>157546540
>I remember some chapter where Cibo somehow ends up in some sort of backup NetSphere-like space where she finds all the residents in some kind of hibernation
That was the character Mori, not Cibo. And the place was an auxiliary backup and repair center for damaged personality data, some of them were human, some of them were AIs. The toy AI said they were all asleep and wouldn't ever awaken, though I took that to mean they wouldn't come back online so long as things continued to be as they were like the chaos in the netsphere.
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>>157546722
Considering humanity had gotten strong and united enough nearly genocide Silicon Life, it's safe to say those trapped on the Netsphere managed to get into a base reality body.
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>>157546808
Maybe the girl is Mori but the storage device around her neck contains the data of Cibo and Sanakan?
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>>157546572
>No, they flat out said that Killy needed to take the kid to a working terminal to initiate a connection

Which reinforces my point that the kid did not have NTG

NTG = don't need an inteface to link to the Net Sphere

Not infected genome = can connect through a provisional connection

So if the kid did not have NTG then it would make sense for Killy to be searching for a terminal
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I find myself wondering what will those people even do all day, having an immense wish granter at their disposal.
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Honestly, I almost find that Killy actually did survive in the end even more saddening.
Dude deserves a break.
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>>157546808
Ah, that's right, thank you.
So they will be fine after Cibo's child restores the order.
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>>157546867
Anon, the kid in the first chapter had a NTG and Killy still needed to escort him to the lady and the dog. Just having the NTG is not enough. You need to connect the person to the Netsphere.
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>>157546865
Maybe, it's always been left ambigious as far as I know. My own theory is that the girl was a composite of the personalities of whoever was on Mori before, as well as some components of Sanakan and Cibo. But it's not like there's any proof for that so believe whatever you think fits best.
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>>157546867
That is an interesting prospect.
But can a human with Not Infected Genome and using the terminal to establish a provisional connection be able to bring back the order to the NetSpere?
I would like to believe that it is possible.
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>>157546975
Why? He's got a human girl waifu following him and made the rest of PCell2's descendents wet for him. Not to mention with the Governing Authority in control again, he doesnt need to go all-in like he did with the NTG quest.
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>>157547078
Honestly, considering that the Authority was willing to save Mori but not Sanakan and Cibo really makes no sense. The Authority had been nothing but reasonable, they wouldn't just abandoned the people that made the NTG human possible like that.
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anyone can explain where the GBE comes from
as i recall cibe said "we were unable to replicate it" , so who made it and where does it come from?
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>>157546986
How do we know that the kid had NTG? And it was never explained what happened to that kid and who was exactly the "lady with the dog" and what did she do with the kid, especially taking into account that the kid was abducted bu Silicon life and Cocooned which would probably put him in a critical condition (hey, why even Silicons bother with that - they could just kill the kid and take the DNA sample or something), hence the lady's capsule-like device.
Also she offered Killy transport to the next level (up) but then proceeded down by herself.
The whole encounter was and still is a mystery.
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>>157546986
Ico is pretty explicit about NTG humans being able to interface with no terminal.

The kid might have been another case of an uninfected genome.

>>157547133
The Authority can fix the Net Sphere it just needs a human with access to the Net to give them the OK to do it.
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>>157547228
Maybe it's because the Governing Authority , being AI themselves, are somehow damaged and needs repair in order to function properly again.
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>>157547355
The Net Sphere the same place the Safeguards come from.
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>>157547355
It's old earth tech from before the silicon life event, the kind of tech which created the megastructure. Cibo and the cluster was advanced because they were in an abandoned level and could work for years and years to reverse engineer old tech, but they were never able to actually reach the peaks that old humans were able to. The net authority can still make them given that high level safeguards have them.
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>>157546867
I don't think anybody every said NTGs didn't need an interface link. People with NTGs are the only ones CAPABLE of interfacing with the Netsphere.

>>157547355
The GBE is basically high level Safeguard weaponry. Nobody outside the Safeguard has access to it, and it's heavily implied that Killy is/was a Safeguard by the mere fact he possesses one.
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>>157547433
NSE and Blame!2 confirms Killy succeeded in his quest. I have no idea why you're trying to say otherwise here.
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>>157547616
Yes, another unanswered question is who summoned a reprogrammed safeguard aka Killy into Base Reality with the quest to find the NTG.
That might be some powerful human hacker grom the NetSphere or a "part" of the Authority AI... it was newer explained. Maybe someone from NOiSE? I don't remember.

>>157547616
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>>157547535
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>>157547889
I'm not trying to say otherwise. I agree that Killy did his job. I just had some questions that mostly got cleared up and I'm sorry we didn't get too see more of the BLAME! aftermath.
It is such a potent story in a wast, well built, world.
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>>157543868
It would take Killy more than 17,000 years to get to the outside of this if there was a straight path through and all he did was walk every day all day.

No wonder he was almost despondent by the end of the manga. Being Killy is suffering.
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>>157547899

I am sure the authority had something to do with it but like you said, it was never explained.
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The main thing that iffed me about the movie was the soundtrack, its just so generic it kind of ticks me off. Needed to be way more electronic and industrial based not this generic orchestral stuff.
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>>157547899
>another unanswered question is who summoned a reprogrammed safeguard aka Killy into Base Reality

I hope that never gets answered its a nice mystery that adds to the atmosphere of Blame!
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>>157543868
Here's another good one.
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>>157548034
Whatever the case may be, BLAME was a fascinating ride!
This recently released movie doesn't do it justice.
It would require a high budget CGI series (probably 24-26 episodes) to cover the whole story but that will probably never happen - it just isn't popular enough.
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>>157545915
Cibo is now a hacked high level safeguard, not your waifu.
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>>157547899
Or maybe just an artificial human. Courtesy of THI.
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>>157548350
>Acting like hitting bump limit is a bad thing
Would you rather the thread have died after 30 replies?
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>>157548350
Go read Neuromanser Izana.
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>>157541792
Yeah sadly. There is not much independent UK publisher as of late. At least I dont have to bear another 'soccer'.
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>>157548350
What are you trying to imply?
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>>157548115
I think Nihei answered somewhere in an interview that Killy was originally human, that he was probably some sort of cop or law enforcer a long time ago, and that he was heavily modified.
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>>157548540
You Brits called it soccer first, don't go blaming the colonies for your own blunders.
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>>157548551
Him and Sanakan were cops in NoIse, weren't they?
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>>157548551
I do think Killy's origins are at least slightly rooted in the pilot chapter. He was either a human cop who got augmented and/or was an early generation Safeguard who was designed to be more human.
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>>157548482
Neuromancer was written in 1984.
I was 3 then. I'm old. ;_;
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>>157548601
Sanakan was a cop.

Killy was one of the kidnapped children.
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>>157548654
It was really hard for me to care about Neuromancer. I know that cyberpunk deals with unlikable cunts dehumanized by technology, but Case was such an unlikable bitch, and even Gibson acknowledged that the characters in general sucked.
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>>157548597
The atlantic article ? Surely you jest.
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>>157548601
>>157548818
Killy is a cop in Blame.
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>>157548654
>>157548829
Beware, some fag will shout Blame isn't cyberpunk.
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>>157549297
I'm not sure what article you are referring to, but it's an etymological fact that the brits used the term first.
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>>157549288
That's the pilot that has no relation to the actual BLAME!

You can see a picture of Killy as a child in NOISE though
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>>157549417
I think you quoted wrongly. I doesn't matter who used the term first. Everywhere in the world calls it football. Your "football" doesn't even use the foot.
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>>157549512
That's not a picture of Killy, for the last time. That's just a generic picture.

Of course it's the pilot. But it does have a relation to the 'actual' manga. Nihei alludes to it in the notes. Killy was "probably" a cop before the disaster.
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>>157549562
Just pointing out that brits complaining about us colonist's use of the term is the pot calling the kettle black.

And, sorry about the misquote.
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>>157549512
Nihei said Killy was "probably a police officer or some sort"
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>>157549288
That girl in white dress is so sexy!
Too bad she dies.
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