So some tracks of the OST are out, also anyone get the mega of the HD Blame! scans? I need it for wallpaper making.
Goddess has the first 3 volumes of the digital Vertical release if that's what you're looking for
/tv/ pleb here, loved the fuck out of the movie. I'm assuming the Fishers were just a small episode of the overarching plot, right? Would the new master editions be a decent time investment or does the story tank at some point? Been looking for a long GN like Akira or Cerebus to settle into.
>when the cowboy music begins to play after Killy stomps murder-fu Sanakan
The manga is kino by definition. Relatively unknown, GOAT art direction, incredible tone and pacing, convoluted plot that needs to be explained after reading/reread a few times to understand.
It's honestly incredible, definitely worth a few hours to sit down and read it all.
Just finished the movie; I knew it was going to suck and I was still disappointed. Low budget, ugly CGI, and weird discontinuities aside, I was at least hoping for some ultra-violent action. There was 1 decent action scene and everything was toned down for a teenage audience. Truly, a terrible studio.
The story starts off slow in the first couple volumes, but gets better and better until the (fantastic) ending. There are about 5 major plot arcs - they took 1 of them (the electro-fishers), combined parts from 2 others, and then forgot to finish the electro-fisher arc anyway.
Music cue at 2:09 was peak Sanakan
They use the sun for energy and as >>157520142
said E= mc^2 means a lot of energy is released when matter is broken down, but matter can also be constituted when you have a lot of energy. It's how heavy metals are formed in a solar furnace or in principle how SEU's body regenerator/factory works.
>so what's your name? I haven't seen another human for decades
>*spongebob narrator voice* 10,000 years later
>I search for Net Terminal Genes
I can give you the "highest quality" existing scans of chapter 1 in raw, but nothing else. They are *unedited*. Nothing else has been scanned of the raws. Would you would want those? They're not ordinary image files, so be aware of that.
Alright. Give it a little while to upload to mega; the folder's well over a gigabyte. Got em off Elemhunter a full year ago. Fucker won't respond to me anymore, though - at least, not since they announced the English editions of the new Blame volumes. He might be pissed about that or something. He did have to debind a limited release $30 book for the scanlations, after all.
Killy acquired another child to sacrifice to the terminal gods. The manga ends with him taking the child back into The City to reach a terminal and SAVE THE WORLD. So, his journey isn't even over at the end of the manga. But, he does succeed, eventually. Canon from NSE and Blame 2.
>Tfw this was art, but I'll never know what they meant by this
Is she? I thought they made it clear they couldnt back up here data in any way. Unless that Governing Authority bro that was watching over Killy did something on his own initiative again.
I watched the movie high out my mind last night forgetting that it's source material is a manga. i'm a volume into it right now. i think i heard that the movie is from a arc in the manga but was done differently, when in the manga do the events in the movie start?
Volumes 3 and 4, but the electro-fishers' story only really concludes during the Toha Heavy Industries arc.
Mori isn't technically her name, but that's what we call her since she didn't have a name. She says here that she was retrieved from a preservation device, so it must have been Mori. She also had memories of the sphere and said it was produced "by two females" which is kind of a weird thing to say about yourself.
Did you forget about this at some point in the past few years? It's unfortunate that I'm here to remind you about it.
thanks, i've tried reading the manga a few times in the past, but the art is done in a way that makes it hard to understand what's happening during combat scenes. i'm kind of glad i watched the movie before instead of reading the manga. i have a lot better idea of what's going on now.
I had presumed since she couldnt remember her real name, she couldnt also remember thr details of what was exactly in the sphere. But honestly, having it be another person would mean the NTG girl would probably inherit Sanakan and Cibo"s personality, traits and possibly their memories.
>they just totally ripped it off from the Tron Legacy OST
Haha oh wow. Worth it to give best murderer a cool theme though.
Honestly, as it was framed in the film, I just thought it was some thing that would start the elevator. She doesn't really have any means of pressing a normal-height button or anything, so she dropped an electric thing that it would detect and which would cause it to activate. Wasn't until afterwards that I started to consider that it might have been something else.
Chapter 1 true raws just finished uploading. Be careful with these; they're not toys.
>O-Oh! Thank god you've come!
>I've waited 5.6 million hours!
>T-The safeguard put me on this punishment level back then...
>I can't remember what I did...
>Y-You'll help me right?
>I'm strong and I can help you!
Humanity figured out how to gain energy from gravity. And since you can't really "use up" or "spend" gravity, its basically an infinite power source. They also have tech that can create matter out of energy.
So Infinite energy= Infinite matter. Technology in the City is so far ahead that some of the malfunctioning machines have the capability of accidentally destroying space and time itself if they won't get fixed.
>I thought Mensab took the remaining fishers into the space time rift to protect them?
No, just Seu. And the records of some stuff that I don't remember off the top of my head. What I'm talking about happens just before that; after the president or whatever of Toha teleports the actual cave itself. Mensab gives the people warning, and they go to escape pods. Here's Cibo saving them from the teleportation, see? After this chapter, Killy and Cibo chat with Mensab, and *then* they go into slipspace.
Electro-fishers got a much happier ending than they did in the manga.
By the end of their arc, both Safeguard and Silicon Creatures have been killing them so much theres only a handful of them left when Cibo puts them in an escape pod
1:50~ reminds me a little of Love Theme from MGS.
The reason the 12fps CGI looks like shit is a lot of the frames don't have wipes or stretches like traditional animation so you never get fooled into thinking it's fluid motion. It's a legitimate complaint that they didn't put enough effort into that aspect of the animation.
Yes, that was an extra included with one of the Sidonia Volumes. The ending of the movie is taken from there
Also has Zuru(male)
>Mori isn't technically her name, but that's what we call her since she didn't have a name. She says here that she was retrieved from a preservation device, so it must have been Mori. She also had memories of the sphere and said it was produced "by two females" which is kind of a weird thing to say about yourself.
Theres so much Cibo in her that the girl might be multiple personalities merged together, like she says herself, many other personalities were written over hers. So a mix of Cibo and Mori, maybe even a bit of Sanakan.
Not to mention how its a fitting ending for Cibo to finally get to enter the Netsphere she always obsessed about, but gets stuck in there until Killy fixes things.
Its not downright gore manga, but its still pretty violent. Sanakan didn't have her needles in the movie, which would've violently turned Electro-fishers inside out and into Exterminators.
Gentle love making, holding hands, 17 million hours of snuggling.
Just look at this lewd robot, pregnant and still ready to jump you at a moment's notice. Her eyes tell the whole story.
At first I thought I'd be annoyed, but combining the Electrofisher arc and plucking the only good parts of the abandoned level arc out for backstory was a good decision. They even managed to make the Sanakan bit better by having her hide as an electrofisher instead of being a random kid Killy picked up.
Don't know how I feel about the removal of Toha though, but if they had kept that they would have needed another movie all together just to finish the electrofisher arc.
Well his quest succeeded so his "suffering" pretty much ended. But he went on a whole another different adventure right afterwards with an unknown objective.
The ending of Blame! is pretty brilliant, back to square 1 from where he started from the very first book, acquiring a kid with Net Terminal Genes that he has to escort somewhere. Although this time around there weren't two Silicon shitheads there to ruin everything for him and force him to start from scratch again.
She looks like she's pregnant in her imp form.
I wouldn't mind if they would make this a series of films where they just do a slightly adjusted versions of the story arcs in a movie format. Like Cibo tags along Killy after the elevator and they head towards Toha.
If I was gonna do a movie I'd start at the elevator girl scene and modify her design a tiny bit to make it clear she isn't Cibo. Tiny bit of expository dialogue from her about what Killy's looking for, allude to the "it's 6000 levels up" thing and then begin the 2-hour walkathon. End the movie at the end of the Toha Heavy Industries Arc. 20 minutes of intro, 20 minutes of freeing Cibo, 80 minutes of Toha Heavy Industries, maybe a little more.
That should be enough time to introduce Sanakan, show alternate timeline Cibo, show what fucking assholes the Silicon life is, show SEU being an autistic white knight, have some trippy netsphere sequences, etc.
I don't like how the Safeguards were portrayed in the movie. I felt there were too many shots of them scuttling weirdly in a straight line. They didn't feel as creepy as I would have wanted.
I concur. If you look at/read the CGWORLD article and some of the other stuff on the matter, you see that they didn't really put much effort into the Safeguards' movement. They put like 8 different possible running frames, which is ridiculous.
You could easily explain away that Cibo finds yet another new body for her from somewhere and catches up with Killy. Maybe even use the idea of the manga that she outright steals Sanakan's body for herself.
Not sure about the walk-a-thon though, since Toha by itself would be a decent enough independent arc for a 2 hour movie. And theres plenty to walk around there, especially in the Gravity-Furnace sub-arc.
I always imagined them as moving really slowly and deliberately when they weren't attacking, and having a kind of weightless grace contrasted with the body horror of the sleek plastic faces and covering and the greasy/spiny/slick organic frames.
Eh, I though they were fine. I just wish we would've seen more than just exterminators and Sanakan. Like the weird priest dudes in the Netsphere backup space.
Silicon creatures are the more "fleshy" ones, whereas Safeguard tend to be the murderous robot dolls with religious visual theme to them.
Mandatory smug Sanakan for a Blame! movie thread.
>weren't their consciousnesses and data completely destroyed after Killy fullpower'd the first-class?
No, the lady in the backup world is almost certainly made of at least part of either one of them.
They're both still around in some form.
I grabbed it from the 2chan BLAME! threads.
There wasn't enough grunge and hardly any of the brutal gore in the manga done to the fishermen. Nor were there any bugs or any of the nano-scale reconstruction or roughshod bio-mechanical visions. Maybe it comes down to budget but it was another thing absent with the time constraints for giving proper scale and bleakness.
I think we've had more Blame threads in the last few days than we had in the whole previous year. Feels good.
The same icons that appear in Sanakan's HUD when she's using wallhacks to blast people through the building appear behind her in Killy's HUD, meaning that he sees the villagers behind her. The red circle displayed shows the blast radius of the GBE, and there would be a lot of collateral damage if he took the shot. He's not completely heartless
They've rendered all the planets down into raw materials, and its stated at one point in either Blame itself or Noise that raw materials continue to be shipped in from beyond the city.
Blame is definitely worth the read, just don't expect to get much exposition. They crammed a large chunk of all the exposition leading up to and including the Electro-fisher story (which takes place in volume 3) into the film, and adapted other parts to fit Cibo in without going through her entire story (volume 2).
They still did a pretty good job all things considered. I like the Cibo maintains her habit of going through bodies like most people go through socks.
The movie revives the franchise, whether we like it or not. I watch the movie with my 50s Dad and he likes it. He went nuts when the cowboy song came out. Gave me money for blu-ray if it's out. Both of us speak Japanese. Anyone knows when will release be ?
Yes, and you have the /co/ scanners to thank for that.
Must admit I find it hilarious that OP is asking for raw scans because the official, Nihei-sanctioned name "Kyrii" triggers them that much.
This film got me into finally looking for the Master Edition in my local book store.
Holy shit you guys, it's huge!
And expensive ($35 in my country).
Smooth paper with nice color contrast too.
I'm in love.`
And Nihei decided to change it. Deal with it, man. Not that big of a thing.
>Holy shit you guys, it's huge!
It has nothing to do with being 2D animation or 3D animation its about poor timing and not having skilled animators who know how to produce limited animation that still looks good. Nobody complains about the "frame rate" for anime because 2D animators have a lot of experience in dealing with this shit. 3D animators generally have a different skill set that mostly doesn't include knowledge like that. The majority of applications of 3D are in settings where limited animation is not desirable.
it would be funny if ergo proxy and this were linked, humans return to earth and suddenly vincent is nothing special becomes a regular builder in the megastructure then forgets even himself after awhile
>there will never be a handdrawn, slow paced adaptation of Blame! that truly captures the size and emptiness of the city.
It makes me really happy to see Blame! in the spotlight again
There is something very beautiful about this robot doing her job and enjoying it. God I am in love.
Yes. It was the first thing I thought of when he took like 10 seconds to reply
How would you feel about a Hollywood adaptation? This seems like the sort of thing they could adapt without mangling it too much.
>This seems like the sort of thing they could adapt without mangling it too much.
By this same studio? Hopefully never.
Biomega was even more violent than BLAME; can you imagine how hard they'd have to try to censor that? Cinematic angles and lens flares everywhere to hide the blood, and the DRF's butcher uniform would probably be made to look like ice cream salesmen.
A budget large enough would necessitate too much pandering to wider audiences and all the things that make Blame! as good as it is would be forsaken (slow pacing, subtlety, challenging plot, atmosphere, character design, gore, etc. etc.)
The closest live action I can think that would be the right sort of direction is Tarkovsky's Stalker.
I cant remember if its ever said but id imagine they have so many "main bases" and back up servers that its futile to even try to disable to whole network. Destroy one and itll just make a new one somewhere else.
Safeguard literally doesn't care about anything else other than eliminating squatters. At least until Domo and Iko were deployed by someone who wasn't a completely braindead safeguard high ranking officer. Even then they were sent to a dead level where they can't do much anyway except Domo boinking Pcell on daily basis
Every single human had the net terminal gene before things went tits up, so the designers probably thought that those without it weren't human so fuck them. Or maybe the plague fucked the safeguard system
Their directives override everything. Kinda like how Killy never really says "fuck it, this is impossible!", but continues his quest for all eternity.
Its an anti-spyware/antivirus program that has gone nuts, and proclaimed anyone who lacks the Net Terminal Genes as a target. You can kinda see from Dhomo and Iko that Safeguard used to protect people.
For some reason Safeguard became the Judge Death of Blame!
>That why you’d give such system true intelligence
It's actually a compelling reason to not do such a thing, you give it a reasonable ability to adapt but if you make it truly intelligent then it will simply act on self-preservation/self serving instincts.
>it will simply act on self-preservation/self serving instincts.
Humans are perfectly able to supress these instincts because of, for example, loyalty.
Anyone has that post about Blame! history. I am in volume 5 and completely lost myself how this story goes. First Cibo steals Sanakan's boi body then, killy gets teleported, now we meet another Cibo. This shit lost me.
Loyalty to what? Programmers who told you their race's priorities trumped your own existence? You can't project human behaviour on true AI because until it exists, nobody knows what it'll do.
The manga is called BLAME! because the gun makes BLAM when it shoots, so why does it do FWOOSH in the movie? I didn't pay to hear FWOOSH. Well I didn't pay anything at all to watch this movie but you know I would have preferred to hear some BLAMING instead FWOOSHING because there is a time and place for BLAM and FWOOSH and this was definitely a BLAM scenario here.
The writer will determine the hirachy of needs of such a AI.
You could create a sex robot with selfawareness and that sex robot could go full Descartes but it would still want to suck his master's dick all day.
True intelligence requires those aspects, without our instincts we'd be dead.
>Humans are perfectly able to supress these instincts because of, for example, loyalty.
Except that we're the species most likely to betray.
Let's hypothetically create a literal god, a god that we know for certain created us; we then find out we're actually better than god in practically every way but we're still expected to serve under him. What do you think we as a race would do?
Just finished the first volume of the manga after watching and enjoying the film.
The main difference besides plot I would say I noticed is that the world in the manga just comes across as so much more fucked up and disturbing in all sorts of ways. Both conceptually and viscerally through the encounters with other beings and things implied in conversations.
Aren't we getting a series based on this or something?
>Sanakan will never step on your face
Why even live?
>Sanakan will never give you this look as she dominates you
Those retina HUDs and holographic displays looked sweet as fuck.
A lot of the things that were done in this movie couldn't have been done well without CGI
The biggest problem to me was inconsistency, really. Especially with the framerate. Some shots were perfectly smooth while others were choppy as hell and that was kinda jarring.
Otherwise it looked really good for the most part.
I like that MC transforms into a kamen rider looking gauna
Everyone has bolt asses in the future
>mfw reading those weird side stories from the Blame! And so on artbook
I found the one with the miniature humanoids getting completely fucked to be more disturbing than most of the dehumanizing, existentialist concepts of the main manga
Nier Automata anime movie when
>Thought this was gonna be shit
>Turns out to be amazing
I was kinda against an adaptation because it didn't seem BLAME would translate well into anime format.
But by making it its own thing and shifting focus away from Killy a bit it worked out a lot better than expected.
Also the actual animation was well done. A big improvement over Sidonia.
Safeguard are designed to kill so they can't so anything else. It's like asking an Apache helicopter to fix a brige.
Domo and Iko were an older generation of Safeguard that had intelligence before the system automated. Perhaps, the old safeguard were more or less human or at least have human cognitive and soul. Modern safeguard can't do that because all humans were "banned" from the system for not having the right gene.
I'm pretty sure Pcell used to be a safeguard to know Domo or at least there were a safeguard that resemble her. Obviously, the silicons hijack safeguard data of pcell and cucked Domo out of his waifu.
The City itself is the HDD, as Iko said, the netsphere cables and access is weaved in the structure itself and sealed away from access and before you think that earth is theyr HQ, the thing is at the very center of the City and is subjected to hellish climate and gravity
>I'm pretty sure Pcell used to be a safeguard to know Domo or at least there were a safeguard that resemble her. Obviously, the silicons hijack safeguard data of pcell and cucked Domo out of his waifu.
Its more likely that Pcell just knew him before Davine started her plan since Domo didn't look like he was given all the directives all Safeguard units are given
My mom is interested in watching the Blame! movie with me and the siblings. Is there like nudity or other kinds of major lewdness in it? I'd like to know before I recommended it for movie night. Violence is a-ok though.
That's a massive change btw.
The original Sana always looked kinda sad and unwilling or something.
This is what I liked most about it.
I wish there was a better dub, though. The voice acting was pretty cringy in some cases, and often didn't seem to capture what the characters' expressions were portraying. Especially for the hothead electrofisher guy.
It does seem strange since silicon are never ever in good term with non-silicon like safeguard or human. It seems unlikely that Domo and Pcell would mingle unless they used to be on the same side somehow. Pcell inexplicably also have power that inconsistent with other silicon such as summoning safeguard-like minions and gravity sword. All of that points to her past as safeguard model to me.
I hope they release the game to the public.
Ehh, we had that silicon life observer who was just annoyed the safeguard didn't let him analyze the tower and he didn't give a shit about Killy and just told him to go away because he was distracting him.
By being in a dead section of the City the Silicon Life there must not have shared too much information, hell, Davine didn't even really care about fucking up teh City, she said she just wanted to see what the netsphere looked like and accidentally downloaded the Level 9 with Pcell trying ot help Killy to stop the Level 9 from destroying the whole area
>all those Nihei threads everyday
I don't know if this is a good thing.
Anyone else think that the movie's GBE just didn't have the right feel?
Like the beam was way too wide and kinda slow. Also it felt like it was more of a plasma weapon or something hot rather than the sort of " thin beam of force that punches a giant hole in anything" of the manga.
>there are people on /a/ that wouldn't go tier 5 or above
The hubub will die down in a less than a week or so probably, I mean we've already gone from multiple threads in a day to one thread a day, won't be long before we get no threads in any given day.
Looks like it's probably some on rails scripted crap that won't actually be good for doing anything other than a VR demo. It would be nice if I was wrong however.
her movie face looks a bit more like she did when she was heel - face turned in the last volumes of the manga
Kinda disappointed that there wasn't a Limter off scene. That would've made me diamonds.
I finally watched it.
It was much less disappointing than I expected.
The streamlined story plays better with the oneshot/movie format.
The sceneries were good.
CGI was a bit uncanny, laughable at times, expecially for people, but it's not like you watch a Blame movie for the ningens.
Worst part is actually all the waifufagging that has been going on nonstop lately.
How the fuck does the megastructure even work?
Where the fuck are they getting the material to build it?
How big is it actually?
How does it look from outside?
Why did they even decided to build it?
Does it just float around randomly in space or does it orbit around the sun?
And what about the sun actually? Does it just float around somewhere in the structure?
Why can't Killy just build a spaceship, blast a hole to the outside and fuck off to some better world?
It just does
Literally from thin air
It's kinda lumpy with holes and strange growth on it as builders build more shit. It's also blue for some reason
Because why not?
I don't think there is a sun anymore
Because that's not his mission
Read the manga
>How the fuck does the megastructure even work?
>Where the fuck are they getting the material to build it?
Canibalising planets, asteroids and moons
>How big is it actually?
Outer-solar ring (presumably Saturn), maybe further.
>How does it look from outside?
>Why did they even decided to build it?
It was never meant to reach this point, Dyson Sphere.
>Does it just float around randomly in space or does it orbit around the sun?
>And what about the sun actually? Does it just float around somewhere in the structure?
>Why can't Killy just build a spaceship, blast a hole to the outside and fuck off to some better world?
Because he can't build one and he has a minimum of an 8.5 AU walk ahead of him.
nigger you don't understand how huge it is
does not looks like space to me
>jupiter room is a dot
>chilling out observing the structure
>gets fucked by a GBE shot
was the 5.2 au ever actually confirmed? Because Jupiter itself is 5.2 AU from the Sun, that wouldn't fit and there is no other reason for there to be a nearly exact size hole of jupiter as a room.
When the movie showed the small bar of dehydrated food turn into a huge meal, I was expecting a scene where Killy eats a whole bar as if it was a snack, shocking everyone around him. There was that scene in the manga where Killy finds a supersized generator and drains all of its battery like it was nothing. Instead of having little need for sustenance, as expressed in the movie, canonically it seems he has huge energy reserves.
anybody else kind of hate the movie? while the visual style and design was pretty cool, they did some really cool moments too but
over and over, plus the weird pace of it kind of killed it for me after a while. it was really only like a small microcosm of what BLAME is supposed to actually be. then they wrapped it up in some like generic animu bullshit.