Koe no Katachi

>>157488454
How can one studio be so based? Yet another proof of Kyoani superiority, TYBKA
Haters BTFO

Does this really have their best character acting yet?

Careful there'll be some nonsense poster calling it a rushed mess by bringing up the manga with no understanding of animation or aesthetic criticism in general.

>>157488534
I think it is. Shouya himself is so well choreographed. I particularly loved how outgoing and loud he was when he was younger but extremely quiet and hesitant when's he's older, and slowly through the movie he gets louder and less hesitant when speaking with others.

And any time he's reminded of the past he puts on a very specific face that makes him look like he's going to start crying at any moment.

Is the ending still shit?

>>157488941
No, I thought it was fantastic. It ends with the end of Shouya's development. It's still a bit open ended (notoriously the romance) but ultimately you get a sense that everything is settled and smaller, not as important to the story issues will be tackled naturally over time.

>>157488454
Everything good about this film comes from the manga, the direction is terrible and confusing.

Every single major plot point feels shallow and unjustified because no character besides the leads gets any kind of build up what's so ever.

Some characters like Mashiba and Sahara don't even make sense as members of the cast with their key character moments ripped out.

The mangos best scenes are missing, shoko waking up from crying to ishida killing his child self.

The whole concept of triumphing over boredom which justifies/explains his actions in the first aren't even hinted at.

The film is heavily flawed put the ass and the ass, nothing feels justified, key plot moments have no emotional weight because they relied purely on the character interaction the movie cuts, I know what they where going for with the subtitle piano shit but it really doesn't work as an ost, really only 3 standout tracks. Terrible direction, trying hard to win artsy and symbolic at the films ecpense.
The film really is no good, like a 5/10 maybe.

Any good subs yet?

>>157488534
No, most of it is pretty stiff and lifeless save for select scenes. Kyoanus lickers will tell you it's subtle animation though.

>>157488454
The movie succeeded just because the manga was really good.
The animation was good and the voice acting was great but they left stuff that in my opinion was very important and had a lot of impact on the story out of the movie which made it feel less dramatic.

>>157489169
But I've heard from /a/ that manga is utter shit (amd looks ugly) but they somehow managed to adapt it to the best movie of all time

>>157488576
I've read the manga, the movie doesn't feel rushed at all, it's just shit. They ignored every single character's story, never hinting at their rhyme or reasons, never builds the relationship with the mc, so when the time comes and his calling everyone out the scene doesn't even work.
They pretend like he had actually built a connection with these people, like they ever had an actually conversation, like there was actually something at stake, when in reality there wasn't, what a blunder.

>>157489169
>The movie succeeded just because the manga was really good.
the manga is mediocre. soap opera for teenagers. and i'm not even baiting.

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>>157489028
>Everything good about this film comes from the manga, the direction is terrible and confusing.
I never had trouble understanding the movie
>Every single major plot point feels shallow and unjustified because no character besides the leads gets any kind of build up what's so ever.
The build up was in the flashback for all the side characters, and you get hints of Shouko pushing herself away because she hates herself and blames herself for everything, especially the bridge scene where Shouya breaks down, leading up to her suicide attempt.
>Some characters like Mashiba and Sahara don't even make sense as members of the cast with their key character moments ripped out.
Mashiba is obviously pretty friendly in the movie. He's curious about Shouko after finding out she's deaf from Kawai (who knows them). Sahara obviously has a lot of emotional baggage from not being able to stand up for Shouko and Shouyo wants to be closer to her, so it's natural.
>The mangos best scenes are missing, shoko waking up from crying to ishida killing his child self.
It's been years since I read the manga, but the narrative was tightly packed and perfect as it is in the movie in my opinion. Shouko groveling at Shouya's mom conveyed that emotion more than enough
>The whole concept of triumphing over boredom which justifies/explains his actions in the first aren't even hinted at.
In the movie, you can tell Shouya doesn't understand the consequences of his actions yet. He's enticed by how everyone laughs and pays attention to him when he picks on her.

>>157489063
Mashiro/Nii-sama are "good enough". There's some errors and awkward lines but it does it's job

>>157489268
>the film is superficial because it does not give enough time to build credible interactions
>it's not rushed at all

>>157489234
No, the manga is great, a bit over the top and melodramatic, but it takes it time and truly builds up all the characters and the drama, so when things blow over or when shoko tries to kill herself it feels justified.

The movie is an absolute mess, cutting out everything good about the manga, butchering it's most impactful scenes, and making some of the most unnecessary changes in how the story was told, the film blows ass compared to the manga.

>>157489381
Don't tell it to Kyoanifags, okay?

>>157489314
>i wasn't confused
well maybes it's because you read the manga, just looking a dozens of people giving there opinions that had no idea about the manga, they where all confused asf and over nothing. I showed this film to a few friends and they where like "what?" 60% of the time.

>The build up was in the flashback for all the side characters
No it wasn't, that's what you call a character introduction. The movie introduces a character and then that's it. They don't actually build up the characters and their relationships, you can't tell me a single important thing about sahara and mashiba because the movie absolute neglects them.

What you just stated about them, tells us nothing the character of mashiba or sahara, or there relationship with ishida, how he see's them, how they see him. The scene when he tells everyone off bends entirely on the personally interactions and arcs he had with them, absent in the movie.

>It's been years since I read the manga
That explains a lot, i suggest you reread and realize just how shallow everything feels in comparison.
The manga has shoko graveling at ishidas moms feet, and the scene of her crying in bed, the movie definitely had time for the scene but completely changed it for no reason and made it worse.

>In the movie, you can tell Shouya doesn't understand the consequences of his actions yet.
ishida getting off at attention does nothing for the whole ideology his actions have been built upon.
The idea of killing boredom was deeply explored, his psychic and attitude explained, even if you didn't like what he did you could totally come to understand why he would.

absolutely non-existant in the movie, they also did a sub par job at showing the bullying, how ishida got everyone to participate and what the sensei actually felt(which gives so much more weight to the scene when everyone turns on him in class)

Instead everything in this movie is just lesser compared to the manga, it's actually embarassing.

>>157489381
>a bit over the top and melodramatic
A BIT??
>Nishimiya singing wrong in the class choir
>The little sister turning Ishida into newspaper news
>Nishimiya yelliing she loves the bully in the middle of the street.
>Ueno yelling with Broccoli-kun in the middle of the street
>Mashiba throwing throwing the children's backpack on the floor
>Ishida conveniently saving Nishimiya from suicide
>Ueno beating on Nishimiya in the middle of the street
>Nishimiya's mom beating Ueno in the middle of the street
>Ueno, who is not even in the family, stoping people from entering Ishida's room.
>Ishida running from the hospital
>Nishimiya and Ishida meeting coincidentally on the bridge
>The film critic cursing everyone

KnK is FULLY overdramatic. Even more so when we remember that Japanese are known for repress their feelings, especially when they are in public.

Are there any heartwarming films like Koe no Katachi?

Is there a good 1080p file out with subs yet?

>>157490036
I saw one in reddits megauploads.

>>157489856
>well maybes it's because you read the manga, just looking a dozens of people giving there opinions that had no idea about the manga, they where all confused asf and over nothing. I showed this film to a few friends and they where like "what?" 60% of the time.
I don't remember anything except for Shouko's suicide attempt in the manga (which honestly made the fireworks scene just before that much more harrowing) but Yamada always explains though body language. You have to pay attention to what the characters are physically doing. Yamada's a huge film nerd.
>you can't tell me a single important thing about sahara and mashiba because the movie absolute neglects them.
Mashiba wasn't that important in the story, so he doesn't need some sort of personal conflict. He gets upset with Shouya during the bridhe scene, which was key to Shouya's and Shouko's development.
>What you just stated about them, tells us nothing the character of mashiba or sahara, or there relationship with ishida, how he see's them, how they see him.
Like I said, not as important in the film. It gave enough reason for them to mingle with Shouya in the first place, and the focus of this movie is obviously Shouya. It doesn't need that particular development to move the narrative along so it was cut.
>The idea of killing boredom was deeply explored, his psychic and attitude explained, even if you didn't like what he did you could totally come to understand why he would.
Once again, I don't think WHY he did was that important to Shouya's inner conflict later on. It showed how oblivious he was to other's feelings and pushed everyone around and this point was brought up again while Shouya and Shouko were walking around the art museum, indicating how he tiptoes around his own emotions because he's afraid of hurting others due to how he treated Shouko in the past (which is why he talks about "doing things properly" during the fireworks scene).

>>157488454
Unironically one of best technically directed anime movies ever, too bad the source material holds it down.

>>157490304
>Yamada's a huge film nerd
Well i guess you have her to blame for the films overall inaccessibility, i suggest you look up the reviews from non-anime fans they all mention the confusing direction, i guess we have her to the blame for the films lack of success.

>Mashiba isn't that important
Are you fucking joking? Mashiba plays a key role in giving ishida his confidence back, and aiding him in facing his demons. Helping him to face his elementry school teacher, mashiba becomes an important pillar of support so it's exceptionally painful to see ishida lose him. Even worse when he punches him infront of shoko.
This specific scene is important because as shoko can't hear, she can only assume the worst when everyone walks away but actually seeing physically force being applied against ishida you can see her damn heart break, it was soul crushing.
In the movie it's just this weird awkward staring baka.

>Character development and relationships aren't important in the film
Well if they are going to do the bridge scene exactly the same, then all that relationship build up is essential for having the scene mean anything, you have got to be joking.

>The why isn't important
I watched this film with 5 other people, i was the only one who had read the manga.
as soon as she started picking on him all of them went "Wtf why?" "why is he doing that?" "what's his problem" they looked geniunely perplexed when he began throwing rocks at her in the park etc.
That blatant disconnect, and all of them looking at me for answers, taking them completely out of the movie, what a mess.

>>157490304
>You have to pay attention to what the characters are physically doing.
It's a drama, not a game. Being subtle is valid, being vague, is not.

Went to see this in the cinema. The theatre contained a bunch of guys in their mid 20s sitting on their own and as far apart from each other as possible.

>>157490702
AHAAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHA

I'm curious, what makes this the best "technical direction" ever? A lot of people say that was one of the movies biggest flaws. I'm genuinely curious.

>>157490773
>films lack of success.
Are you retarded? It's one of the highest grossing late night anime films of all time.

Raged like a motherfucker that he didn't understand her confession and it's never revisited again.

>>157490773
Sounds like you're friends with retards.

>>157490304
>Once again, I don't think WHY he did was that important to Shouya's inner conflict later on.
(not that anon, but) yes, it is necessary, otherwise it seems that he committed bullying just because he was a bad and villainous kid. so, emphasizing the issue of boredom is important because it shows that he did everything he did without being aware that he was hurting someone.

>>157490837
I guess in your country normie couples don't watch family cartoon

KyoAni fags are so fucking embarrassing. Imagine being this oblivious to other art-forms.

>>157490863
Even Shinkai praised its direction as absolutely amazing, random shitposting opinions on a chinese cartoon imageboards carry significantly less weight.

>>157490837
Why didn't you bring your kids anon?

So how many KnKs are we up to now?

>>157491133
Shinkai? The guy who does not know how to direct, just use pop songs, sunsets and detailed scenery in the place of real development? Ok.

>>157490773
>Well i guess you have her to blame for the films overall inaccessibility, i suggest you look up the reviews from non-anime fans they all mention the confusing direction,
It wasn't completely inaccessible. I can understand if it's something like Angel's Egg but the movie hand holds you through all the important parts. Yamada just doesn't shove the build up and characterization details in your face.
>Mashiba plays a key role in giving ishida his confidence back, and aiding him in facing his demons.
In the manga, perhaps, but not the film. The film has Shouya facing his demons during Shouko's suicide attempt, and that's when he realizes what he's just been skirting around the issues and ended up causing Shouko to attempt to kill herself.
>Character development and relationships aren't important in the film
The essentials where there. You know why the characters are around, and why Shouya tries to bring them all together. The importance in the bridge scene is how Shouya blames himself, and even more importantly how Shouko blames herself.
>"why is he doing that?"
For one, he's a goddamn kid. He doesn't understand the consequences of his actions. He's always the driver behind his group of friends. He gets a thrill every time he picks on her and other's laugh. He wants validation from others in the film, and that's why when he gets abandoned by the others when the teacher calls him out angers him so much.

>>157490991
Like I said to the other anon, Shouya's just a kid so we are already inclined to believe he just doesn't understand the consequences of his actions and his wish for validation in the film. I think that change was great and made kid-Shouya a pretty realistic character.

I love KyoAni and Yamada, but honestly a bunch of scenes in the movie slightly lacked the raw emotion and passion that the manga had. I liked that they subdued it to not make it too overbearing like the manga, but it was really hard to be moved by it since they toned it down so much.

I'll give an example: Ueno and Ishida meeting again in the manga was far from being as relaxed/slightly tense in the movie. Ueno was walking Ishida down and forcing her way to him (and later Shouko) to the point where Ishida is visibly uncomfortable and irritated at Ueno's actions. The movie made Ueno hop into Ishida's bike,(even worse took out Ishida's irritated attitude towards her) and made Ueno's return to the cast a lot less disruptive as it was in the manga.

>>157491057
Says the manga fan who can only describe a film by its plot points aka what doesn't actually matter.

>>157491450
Yeah you know that guy who despite all that is the director of the most successful anime movie ever? Yeah that guys opinion is worth more than you, who dwells in a basement and faps to chink cartoons all day.

>>157491493
the films is only plot points. there's practically no dramatic build up, no nuance.

>>157491654
Thanks for making your opinion invalid.

>>157491539
GREAT LOGIC

>>157491491
Shouya was scared of Ueno in the film at first, but he does get irritated once she starts talking shit on Shouko.
Ueno also showed up to the amusement park by herself, and Shouya was obviously not trying to pay attention to her, evident from how the show placed her in the background with an X as he was having fun with the group, which led to Ueno's frustration and the Ferris Wheel scene.

>>157490036 might be interested.

35mm has 1080p release on both nyaa.si and nyaa.pantsu now with corrections supposedly.

Is it worth getting or should I wait for HorribleSubs release?

>>157491481
The essentials aren't there, nothing feels justfiied. and you don't need to explain the "why" to me, i've read the manga.

>>157491754
The point was that I got that "why" from the movie, not the manga. It's all there.

>>157488454
Get off her dick, this isn't a rodeo. The manga was WAY better, and it wasn't that good of a manga either.

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>>157488454
This anon, pretty much naild it.
The movie is just most of the key scenes of the manga poorly stitched one after the other, with nothing keeping them together.
All the missing interactions and characterization make the drama fall flat, and what is left is a rushed, bloated mess with too many characters with no purpose that never have time to breathe and too many plot points to rush through.
KnK is the perfect example of how NOT to make an adaption, any half competent screenwriter would have cut all the fluff and completely reworked the script into something functional. But what can you expect from Kyoani?

>>157491708
I'm not just talking about Ishida being irritated at Ueno touching Shouko, but him being really irritated at Ueno herself. In the manga his annoyance towards her seemed as if he didn't even want to look at her face, much less spend more time with her. Taking out most of his dialogue after that scene really undersold how much remorse and spite Ishida still has for his friends that abandoned him in his old school.

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wow the movie fucking sucks

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>Romance
>They don't even get together
It's just another overrated movie

>>157492179
I love low quality bait.

>>157492093
Ah, film Shouya doesn't spite his friends, he's just scared of them, like when Ueno got him to buy the takoyaki and was confronted with Shimada. Even when he watched the video of Ueno being a blunt bitch to Shouko, what really struck out to him was how Shouko hated herself, rather than anger at what Ueno is doing, most likely because he only hates himself.

>>157492177
I like how the movie portrayed Ueno's possessiveness.

>>157492264
But it's the truth

>>157488576
The only real issue I have with the movie was how shallow Nishimiya seemed. Her arc of opening up to communicste to others instead of just being a neutral passive person was completely removed.

In the movie she was just a cute dead moeblob. Would have much preferred they cut some of the side characters to give her a bit more developement.

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Which subs are the best?

>>157491713
>wait for HorribleSubs
If you are gonna wait then do it for proper subs.

>>157492530
In the film, her character ran parallel to Shouya to me. She also hated herself, blamed everything on herself, and was scared of the other kids from when she was bullied.
Her confession and subsequent frustration was adorable.

>>157492977
She doesn't really show any considerably growth from that in the movie. Her efforts to reunite everyone fall a bit flat in the movie because they come out of nowhere (unlike the manga, where it was to make the movie for him). You could say her arc is complete because at the end she opens up to Ueno by talking to her and laughing, but it feels a bit contrived compared to Shouya arc and how wonderfully his growth was executed in the movie (better than the film, IMO. Which is what makes me so hard to call the manga completely superior. The movie does so much better than the manga, that I really they had rewritten the story to focus more on the main characters).

One of the best scenes in the manga, where Nishimiya imagines herself reacting less passivly to her initial teasing is heartbreaking and I really wish they had put it in.

I also liked how the film showed that killing herself hurts others a lot. That once scene of Shouya's mom yelling at Shouya for planning on killing himself and that flashback to how Shouya's mom got into a fight with Shouko's mom was heartbreaking.

>>157493475
Yeah, Shouko definitely feels a lot smaller compared to the amazing development Shouya had, though she still had much more development than the other characters. Her suicide attempt and Shouya's injury made her realize how much her passive neutrality put so much strain onto Shouya, and afterwards she does make visible attempts to support him, like when she goes along with him to the school festival, pulls him along as he looks down at the ground and stuff.

>>157489234
The manga is super overrated, but the middle parts of it are quite good. The entire last 1/4 to 1/3 is gutter trash though.

>>157489169

>it feel less dramatic

And thank god for that. The manga had an interesting premise but turned ridiculously melodramatic with flat/boring bullies just to make sure that you don't forget that Shouko is such a sweet girl that suffers because she is deaf. In fact Ishida is the only interesting character of the story.

The movie is not perfect but lowering the melodrama was a good choice.

>>157492680
HS and proper subs. Nice bait.

>>157492648
>>157491713
Nii-sama, because 35mm is a cartel-like localized and simplified crap.

>>157489381
>He is so mean to me I hate him
>But now he was nice to me and he suffers I guess I love him now

That is Twilight tier writing.

So are there any good torrents with good aubs and fixed horizontal black bars?

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This film is very symmetrical. Not just the imagery, the staging or the backgrounds but the events of the film like the splash and ripples of water following the different emotions of the characters and the light in tunnel motif signalling the beginning and end of the film to encapsulate adolescence and growing up.

>>157494370
This entire trip scene was so beautiful.

>>157488454
The movie is just most of the key scenes of the manga poorly stitched one after the other, with nothing keeping them together.
All the missing interactions and characterization make the drama fall flat, and what is left is a rushed, bloated mess with too many characters with no purpose that never have time to breathe and too many plot points to rush through.
KnK is the perfect example of how NOT to make an adaption, any half capable screenwriter would have cut all the fluff and completely reworked the script into something functional. But what can you expect from Kyoani's writers?
If this was Yamada's attempt at being taken seriously as a "real" flim director, the result is just pathetic. Even Your Name in its mediocrity is a far more competently put together movie.

>>157494370
I still can't believe they pulled this off in three months.

I can't wait for Yamada's next film.

>>157493673
That is very true, she did show some good growth at the end. Maybe I should rewatch the ending.

>>157493941
Manga ending is complete and utter shit. They should have just ended it at the graduation and kept and open ending on what happens to the characters.

>>157493995
What flat and boring bullies are you talking about? The ones that pop-up before she transfers to Shouya's school? (In Yuzuru's flashback)

>>157494258
>Doesn't understand redemption.
People can change.

Also consider that Shouko had a similar issue to Shouya, her deafness made it hard to communicate to her, and she then purposely avoids communicating her own feelings to others, compounding the problem. Both are self-loathing, Shouya because he believes no one will love him for his past-actions (as well as some feeling of guilt to his mother) and Shouko for feeling like she is a burden to others (and feeling she is unable to be loved because of her disability.) They are very similar chatacters in this regard, which makes for a very good contrast. Both of them attempt suicide for similar reasons too, without knowing that they would only hurt the people around them who do care.

does anyone want to put in spoilers what happens in the manga where the anime left off?

>>157494579

>What boring bullies?
Are you implying that Ueno is was not created just to be hated by the reader?

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>>157488454
>K-On! movie and Tamako Love Story
>they were pretty much flawless masterpieces themselves

>>157495557
Kawai is more of a character meant to be hated than Ueno. But yea with the exception of Shouja most of the characters in KnK are kind of dull and includes Shouko.

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>>157495709

>>>/co/

Nah it was forced drama trash.

I felt so sad for her when she asked if her voiced sounded weird, and he said "yes." Like she spent her whole life deaf but thinking at least her voice was normal and didn't even know until that point. She'd probably be really self-conscious about saying lewd stuff too.

In the manga is it ever expressed if she's considered attractive?

>>157495959
Yeah it is, but it doesn't lead to anything cause ya'know let's just have the mc confess and then don't build on it and ignore it

>>157496345
Is this the only thing teenagers care about?

>>157496427
Fuck you

>>157496551
Why even bring romance into it if you don't ever bring it up or conclude what happens between them romantically

>>157491133
Yet you can't explain to be what makes this the greatest technical direction ever. Also this critism isn't from 4chan, like 10 british reviewers all mentioned how shit and confusing it was, I had personally scene how it effected a few people i showed, it's fucking ass mate.

>>157489314
Nice pic, the architecture in that landscape looks like izamu noguchi work.

It's funny how both Kyoani and Shaft got to adapt almost at the same time two award winning manga about bullying, isolation and difficulty of communication, and that while Kyoani only produced a confused and poorly edited copy of the source material, Shaft managed to improve it.
It just shows which the better studio is I guess.

>>157496964
Shaft's adaptation was mediocre and improved nothing.

>>157496913
>I had personally scene how it effected a few people i showed, it's fucking ass mate.
I'm sorry to say but, you're too stupid for a show made for teenagers.

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>>157488526
How are we btfo? You've yet to show us how Yamada beat her contemporaries besides all this circlejerk.

>>157488454
>greatest piece of animation ever made

Not when Pinocchio exists. Or the Chernobog scene of Fantasia.

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>>157488454
Is it too much to ask for some closure (in regards to their relationship)?
True, the manga ending was trash, but at least they held hands.

>>157495847
Look at this triggered guy.

>>157489234
/a/ also thinks the Rape of Nanking didn't happen, but should have.

Thanks for reminding me about this movie, guys! I'm gonna go download the raw now and maybe watch it next week end (or tonight even).

>>157497014
The manga is very heavy on monologues and introspective sequences rather dull and uninteresting to look at, also because of the poor paneling.
Shaft took that occasion to let visual symbolism and abstract imaginery run wild, leading some of the most dense and breathtaking espressionist sequences of last year.

>>157497014
How so? What did they do wrong on 3gatsu?

>>157497353
Forgive him, he doesn't know what he's talking about. Kyoani fags gets triggered at the word Shaft.

>>157497318
This. This is also why Monogatari overall looks the way it does. Monologs and interpretive symbols don't exactly translate well to the screen, so they tried to create the visual equivalents. (Monogatari is also about isolation and youthful solipsism; hence the vacant city.)

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Be honest, /a/ how many times did you cry to this movie?
For me, it was three times
>Shouko saying she hates herself
>Shouko's suicide attempt
>The X's falling off

>>157497353
Nothing, he's a buttblasted Kyoani fanboy.

>>157496964
What? Koe no Katachi was the award winning aesthetically innovative film supported by the government and raised the bar for modern anime in cinematography, shot composition and sound design whereas 3gatsu is a forgettable tonally inconsistent trainwreck of a production that sold 2k and no one remembers besides having frog face designs.

>>157496551
It's the only thing they understand.

>>157497489
The suicide scene almost got me.

>>157497489
Zero, but the scene where Yuzuru and Shouko's mom apologize to Ishida's mom was very emotive.

>>157495557
I'm pretty sure every character was created with the intention of "being realistic" or "being human" and not to agitate the reader. There's no way any writer would intentionally fill their cast with scummy characters otherwise. The only characters that aren't subhumans are teenage Shouya, Shouko, and Yuzuru. Basically everyone else is a selfish cunt.

>>157489856
I haven't read the manga and I wasn't confused about anything. Stop making stupid assumptions about others.

>>157497640
>tonally inconsistent

It's one thing to just repeat buzzwords; quite another to actually explain why this is so. So why is this so, mang?

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>>157497640
Sit down boy. 3gatsu got its 2nd season greenlit by the government as well. And all the praise you've given to koe no katashit on this thread are untrue garbage.

>>157489856
>muh manga autism again
Can you fuck off already?

>>157497760
Maybe you should try it.

>>157497867
3gatsu was a commercial flop that got no recognition or sales.

>>157495557
Ueno isn't really a bully outside of the part in elementary school. She was just jealous of Shouya's new object of affection and got angry at her for being overly passive whenever something happened to her. She's a bit less fleshed out in the movie, so that might be why she felt that way.

>>157495959
The manga doesn't really expose on any of the characters beauty except for Kawai looking in the mirror and saying she's a hot momma.

I still think Shouya shouldn't have said that though. I'm pretty sure she knows her voice isn't perfect, but maybe the fact that it was Shouya who said it affected her more.

>>157496551
Only teenagers care about plot threads that are brought up with no resolution or pay off?

>>157497934
But it's getting an S2.

Now why don't you explain what exactly was wrong with 3gatsu as opposed to Katachi? You're the kino expert here.

>>157497934
>using the word flop again

There he goes! He brought out his ultimate weapon!

>>157497489
I really regret that retrospection scene during taking off photos from the fridge scene wasn't expanded a little. In manga it hit me like a train but in movie I watched first I barely noticed this 2 seconds long scene.

>>157497640
>tonally inconsistent
The most meme critism to ever exist.

>>157497991
Plenty of terrible shows get a second season, what does that even prove? You're trying to convince people something that can barely sell 2k copies is better than one of the biggest anime film successes ever.

>>157498273

>muh sales

>>157497971
>Only teenagers care about plot threads that are brought up with no resolution or pay off?
Really, I didn't care about that at all. Also leaving things unresolved is an established trope in japanese cinematography.

>>157498273
>one of the biggest anime film successes ever.
It's probably not even in the top 50 of highest grossing anime movies.

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What did KyoAni try to convey with this camera angle?

>>157497169
I WANTED THEM TO KISS SO BAD

>>157498679
Lewd.

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>>157498273
>sales is what matters

Okay. So what's the name of that one movie that sells better than KnK? Say that it's objectively better than KnK. Come on. Say it.

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You can literally see how much force Shouya is using to hold onto Shouko's wrist, and you can see Shouko's cast later on.
I fucking love Kyoani's attention to detail.

>>157498557
It grossed more than Madoka so blown the fuck out shaftfaggot.

>>157498759
The GuP Movie? Yeah that's way better.

>>157497843
Retarded shifts to dumb anime comedy ruining the sombre nature of the show, awful design transition to animation making the drama impossible to take seriously, half-baked attempts at expressive animation, there's one distinct cut that goes full off-model in the least fun way ever. It was so jarring and unwatchable. The production is generally no different from an average television series, formally uninspired with no coherent structure and with no leading creative vision lending the work its own identity. There's no reason to watch it over the manga.

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>>157498849
You know what i'm talking about. Come on, coward.

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Translation error:
He said, "I should have asked her what she thought of me"

>>157498929
The Love Live movie wasn't that good you stupid idolfag.

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>>157498971
>couldn't say it

Yamada is disappointed that she got a dickless emasculated studiofag for a fan. I felt sorry for her.

>>157488454
literally the movie of the decade, surpassing even kyoukai no kanata's movie

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>>157497489
>Dogeza
>I hate myself

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>literally dying
>thinks of his family
>thinks of Shouko asking to be friends when they were kids
>thinks of Shouko's family
>thinks of the roller coaster (fear)
So much information packed into this sequence. Yamada is truly an artist. His guilt towards his family, his guilt towards Shouko and her family, and his fear of others all expressed within a few seconds.

>>157498919
>Retarded shifts to dumb anime comedy ruining the sombre nature of the show
Stopped reading here. The jarring transitions between Rei's dull, silent, colorless world and the explosion of color, life and fun of the sister's household is one of the best things the anime did and it fits perfectly in the artistic choices of the show, that both in the introspective and in the mundane scenes always strive to express with visuals and sounds the chatacter's perspective and internal world.
Maybe you were confused and thought you were watching H&C, but this is another thing entirely.

>>157496774
Because they're teenagers and teenagers crush all the time? But what am I wasting my time for anyway, this is neo-/a/ -- average age 13 yo.

>>157488454
This adaptation had potential to be good but Yamada just made the second half even shittier, leaving all uncohesive manga shit that needed serious rewrite meanwhile dropping all necessary character development.
The only director who actually have capability to make something from it is Hosoda.

>>157499333
Yamada has far surpassed the rest of the directors at KyoAni

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>you will never go on a quiet date with Shouko
JUST

>>157499397
Except the transitions in the manga were graceful and not tonally deaf and how is this not bad storytelling when the parts about the family are given less expressive visuals than when Rei is in solitude? Why is the look more dull there? It's giving the exact opposite impression of what you're stating.

>>157499206
It's not a good example. KnK was rather average.

>>157496964
>Shaft managed to improve it
I disagree, I still preferred the manga (and I can't agree with the "poor paneling" complaints; I think a lot of these people just aren't used to the shoujo approach to paneling). That said, 3-gatsu was way better than KnK to begin with, so it's sort of sillyto try this studio circlejerking bullshit with such an uneven "contest".

>>157500212
By KnK do you mean Kyoukai no Kanata or Kara no Kyoukai?

>>157498849
Who the fuck mentioned madoka or shaft?

You can't say that KnK is one of the biggest financial successes for anime movies. It's just plain false.

>>157500284
Oh, sorry. Kotetsujou no Kabaneri.

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Can we talk about how cute Shouko is in modest clothing?

>>157500322
Few people mention shaft anymore except when it's to troll GodAni. I think /a/ is starting to forget them

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>>157499460

>Look at me I am an oldfag

>>157500517
And what does that have to do with KnK not being one of the biggest financial successes for anime movies?

>>157498831
That was in the manga, fuck off lmao

>>157500322
>You can't say that KnK is one of the biggest financial successes for anime movies. It's just plain false.
You can if you exclude Ghibli, Toei, Hosoda, Your Name and TV family adaptations (Doraemon, Detective Conan, Yokai Watch). For the limited marketing and number of screens there's not much films that made more.

>>157500517
SHAFT's Fireworks movie will outsell Koe no Katachi

>>157500642
Probably not. It might outsell all 3 kizus combined though, but maybe not.

>>157500642
Please don't start this fucking shitposting, you cancerous faggot.

>>157500640
>if you discount actual financial successes then KnK counts as a success!
lel

>>157500640
> You can if you exclude
> For the limited marketing and number of screens
He didn't say any of that, though.

>>157500642
I'd be surprised if it did.

I'm looking forward to it because of Takeuchi, but it looks sadly visually bland from what's been shown.

Hosoda should have directed this.
Period.

>>157500804
>hosoda directs it
>ueno wears a full-on cat fursuit and bounces on shouya's cock

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>>157500804
>Hosoda directs Knk
>Shoko is now a furry bunny girl
>Shoya is now a furry wolf boy

>>157500804
Hosoda is a drastically inferior director to Yamada as of now.

Holy shit what a joke lmao, why where they pretending like they all had deep personal relationships, it didn't feel like any of them had a relationship except for the lead and shoko and her sister, 90% of the cast is just kind of there for dramas sake, i can see why your name btfo'd this movie.

>>157499996
if you are a pleb who doesn't understand shit about anime, yeah

>>157500642
Shaft's animation is a shit lately. Their 3DCG is ugly just like Ufotable's 3DCG. At least Shaft can do amazing work with 2d too (like character animation and character design). Ufotable looks bland in every aspect. Flashy effects, fast camera movement and nothing else. I can't stand Ufotable.

>>157500860
Her directing ruined this movie, so i'm inclined to not believe you, i've only seen tomoko story and it was quite literally a massive waste of time, about literally nothing.

>>157500881
Ironically Kara no Kyoukai is praised mostly by normalfags...

>>157497489
I welled up a bit when he's beating the crap out of her when they're young and she says "I'm doing the best I can"

>>157488454
The ending still sucks?

>>157500860
Are you kidding? Boy and the Beast was brilliant.

>>157500990
Terrible taste

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>>157500804
Jokes aside, if we talking about the perfect director, than it would be this guy

>>157501055
Boy and the Beast is literally the worst anime film of the decade. Summer Wars was pretty garbage too but this was a new low.

>>157501057
The only taste you know in your life is that of dick, so stop trying to judge others

>>157501076
Whito piggu go home.

>>157501146
Don't remind me Summer Wars. It was like a low tier western cartoon/blockbuster movie. I couldn't even watch it till the end.

>>157501146
The Girl Who Leapt Through Time: Good
Summer Wars: Shit
Wolf Children: Good
Boy and the Beast: Shit
I'm sure his next film will be good. I think it's coming out next year.

>>157501224
The only currenty working director that's better than him is Masaaki Yuasa
But i guess the generic tearjerking moeshit is better, right? Get some fucking taste, nigger

>>157499815
They aren't given less expressive visuals, they are given different audiovisuals that express different emotions and perceptions, appropriate to that context. Would the solemn, symmetrical shots that define Rei's solitude fit in the sisters' household?
The manga employs far less than the anime images rather than words to convey meaning, even during internal monologues, so the comparison isn't appropriate. The adaption takes fully advantage of the medium.

>>157501451
Looks like you fall for the "less conventional artstyle = best director" meme.

>>157497169
I didn't mind it ending where it did
The "I want you to help me live" scene on the bridge solidified their relationship for the movie

>>157501426
>>157501314
>>157501146
Summer Wars is a great movie.

>>157500933
I've always hated Ufotable and their "just slap the character in the middle of that wallpaper, drown everything in filters and call it a day" modus operandi.

I saw this movie in the cinemas, did they add any more content to the bluray?

>>157497489
Welling tears:
>Shouko fighting Shouya and mumbling that she's trying her best
>Shouko crying on the bed after getting back from the doctor
>Shouko saying she hates herself
Crying:
>Shouko's attempted suicide
>the bridge scene
>The X's falling off
I am the biggest fag.

>>157501076
I talking about relationships development between characters who painfully depend on each other and can't express their feelings because they can't deal with them the way normal people do.
If you actually watched Tekkon you would understand.
But keep projecting, if you feel better that way.

>>157501426
>forgetting Our War Game

>>157501146
>Boy and the Beast is literally the worst anime film of the decade
Did you miss out on those Project Itou movies failing to meet any expectations at all? Or the boring slogfests that were the later Mardock Scrambles?

>>157501076
Unfortunately, he's one of the masterminds behind those Itou Project failures I mentioned. I'm not throwing him under the bus just yet, but one great movie and one terrible one is far from "perfect."

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>>157502078
>all of those
I almost did in all of those, only stopped because I was in a theatre and my sisters were there.

>>157492179
(you)

>>157502131
>forgetting Our War Game

No he mentioned Summer Wars

>>157502268
I should have seen that one coming.

>i still haven't watched it

>>157496427
I was not prepared for the confession. Completely shattered me. I don't know how or why.

>>157502189
He was producer more than director on that one, and was mainly helping Nakamura

>>157502441
Was he really? Then I guess we can forgive him, but in that case he's got a very limited repertoire to actually judge by.

>>157497489
Made me cry like a sissie at the confession. Probably 3-4 times more, forgot when exactly.

>>157502534
We must push /ourguys/

>>157502583
>/ourguys/
Please stop.

There was no better director for this project than Yamada. There's no director who better understands the difficulties of communication than one who struggles to express herself everyday and has to do so with body language and gesticulations to her fellow staff members. There's no one who pays as much attention into the minutest of details with non-verbal communication than Yamada. There's no director who better captures the delicate feeling and struggle of adolescence than Yamada. There's no director who can convey as much information as possible with every frame as Yamada. There's no director who has the resources needed to stimulate the senses of look, sound and feel like Yamada has with her studio, paying so much attention of the sound, character acting, lighting, backgrounds and spatial canvass. Yamada made this project into her own, every single component of it a mark of her identity and for better I'd say.

>>157502079
>>157501646

>>157501697
you are a great retard

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>>157502795
There is

>>157502900
Yamada's next film will be an original tackling sekuhara

>>157502888
Summer Wars is influetial as was Tokyo Story movie at time.
Go jerk off to your moeblobs just another time as you can't accept reality

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この俺に勝てる奴いるの？
＃イケメン男子

>>157502795
Replace "Yamada" with "Hosoda" and you will be right.

>>157502795
film school was a mistake

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>Muh disabled acceptance
>Muh mixed race is good
Literally SJW cuckfest and /a/ swallowing it as always

>>157488454

It's a fine work but currently highly overrated. They should have taken more creative license with the narrative to make it fit better into a 130 minute runtime. How much of the story they tried to tell really hurt the piece. I don't know what they were allowed to change/do but the film adaptation should have cut out at least 2 characters. The red head guy and Sahara or Ueno. Can't merge the two but Sahara, for the film, simply functions as a mulligan for a one note switcharoo. Maybe cut the blonde girl and keep both Ueno and Sahara in and making a hybrid of Sahara and the blond girl to serve as the mulligan. I'm not a professional screenwriter - but there was too much there and it hurt the story - a bit.

There was also very little to set us up for Shouko's suicide attempt, and I don't mean that out of the blue wasn't appropriate, but they should have had a little narrative back and forth between Yuzuru and Shouya about Yuzuru's photography being an avenue of trying to cheer up Shouko.

>You really like photography? I never understood the world that way.
>It's not that I like phtography, I just want to share a point of view with my sister to convince her that the world can be filled with beauty too.
>too?
Then drop as subtle or as on the nose of a hint that she also suffers from depression. Just enough so the suicide attempt wouldn't be so out of left field as to break the character

>"But that's how suicides often are"
Actually, no, they are not, and even if they were there is no crime in subtly foreshadowing an event for the audience. It would have also made the taking down the photographs a much better scene, you could have simply showed, not told via "this is what I'm doing and why I'm doing it" line dump.

But these are all nitpicks really. Hindsight is 20/20 from armchair directors and producers so my opinion is worth less than shit. It's a solid work. I almost hope there is never an English dub because it would ruin it IMO.

>>157488454
Are there good subs now?

There were parts of the movie I really liked, and I appreciate the idea behind their cuts, but the execution just wasn't good enough and so much of the mangas best content was lost.

I like to imagine there's a timeline out there where we got the best of both worlds as an anime adaptation.

>>157502795
And yet the film is disaster.
I think Yamadafags were so pumped up about how perfectly the project seemed tailored for her, calling it a "guaranteed Magnum Opus" and shit, that are still in denial about what kind of mess and failure it turned out to be.
For everyone with a functioning brain, KnK confirmed her as the most overrated anime director of the century. Even Your Name in its mediocrity was a far more competently put together movie.

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>>157503242

>>157503452
I've seen this post before.

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>>157503487
DEJA VU

Why the FUCK hosoda rejected the project

>>157496551
>>157499460
Then answer why they brought it up in the first place, you can't use the answer that it was her trying to communicate cause there are a million other ways to communicate with somebody besides telling them you love them.
You can't half ass something like that, Its either you don't put it in the movie or you resolve it, not that bullshit about leaving it for the viewer the decide if they got together in the end

>>157503652
>everything needs to be resolved
>my hand needs to be held at all times
Fuck off.

>>157501076
What do you like about Arias?

>>157503588
you can't reject something you were never offered

>>157503446
10000000000 times repeated.
Go with Nii-sama. Good faithful subs. Don't touch 35mm unless you are normalfag

>>157503909
he got and portrayed relationships as no one do
also the rhytm of his works

>>157503072
Kill yourself retarded crossboarder.

>>157503883
Im not saying everything should be, but something as big as a love interest shouldn't be brushed under the rug yet alone brought up if nothing's going to be done about it

>>157503935
Can you post some examples from each one?

>>157504020
Kill yourself projecting shitposter

>>157500741
Is that fear i see?

>>157500860
Hosoda has actually worked with different staffs and studios unlike Yamada.

>>157504179
What does that matter?

>>157502988
>original tackling sekuhara
what

>>157504196
that he is capabale of pushing his own vision unlike being limited within kyoani moeshit tropes

>>157504037
Am I your servant?
Nii-sama has honorifics, dialogues are faithful to source, not localized, references are keep in, character personalities are not changed etc
35mm is totally opposite = shit tier commie-like subs.

>>157497489
Once. The mom confronting him about his suicide attempt.

>>157504334
>that he is capabale of pushing his own vision
So, like Yamada clearly does.
>limited within kyoani moeshit tropes
Nice empty shitpost.

>>157504179
So you're saying Yamada's position is like Miyazaki? Great. Hosoda has literally stopped progressing as a director and has stuck to safe family movies ever since 2006. There's no more ambition in his storyboards, the Ikuhara influence is gone, he's just been going through the motions ever since he got married.

>>157504362
>shit tier commie-like subs
you are just fucking butthurt that no one needs yout pantsu shit and everybody just uses si
in b4 >cartel shil
go fuck yourself

>>157504196
To measure her talent truly. Try taking her out of the studio for once. Then you'll see her for what she is. Then it's fair to "compare" her to the likes of Hosoda.

Hell, she didn't even went out to London for research for the K-On movie with the rest of the staff.

>>157504518
My pantsu shit? Wtf are you talking about you low tier normalfag? Herkz, is that you?

>>157504573
>Hell, she didn't even went out to London for research for the K-On movie with the rest of the staff.
Fake news

>>157504479
>So, like Yamada clearly does.
if this flick w
>>157504650
>>157504479
you low tier normalfag?\
>Nice empty shitpost.
<<to you
>limited within kyoani moeshit tropes
because she's not and she is?

>>157504510
>family movies are inherently inferior to Ikuhara influenced direction
Wow.

>>157503125
>＃イケメン男子
what's a good translation for this ?

>>157504518
Everybody is using si? Hahaha hahaha. Herkz, you are really living in your delusions.
And btw, what does the site mean? Nii-sama is available on pantsu and si.
We were talking about subs, not sites. But if you can't understand simple things like this, then no wonder why you prefer shit tier commie garbage subs for lowlifes.

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>>157504573
>Hell, she didn't even went out to London for research for the K-On movie with the rest of the staff.
What the hell are you talking about?

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>>157504573
Based GodAni always goes on location to scout

>>157504811
Handsome man guy

>>157504862
>that denial
go learn some real programming languge first, delusional /g/ fucker

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>>157504776
>if this flick w
>you low tier normalfag?\
><<to you

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BAAAKAAA

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>>157505076
I haven't HNNG'd that hard in a long time.

>>157504573
>To measure her talent truly. Try taking her out of the studio for once. Then you'll see her for what she is. Then it's fair to "compare" her to the likes of Hosoda.
This kind of argument fails because you need talent and resources in your staff to fully realize your ambitions or else you'd be like Sayo Yamamoto. What would Hosoda be without the A+ animators in all his works? Miyazaki and Takahata are surrounded by brilliant animators, color designers, composers, animation directors and character designers. Takahata doesn't even draw his own storyboards and the stylistic variation in his work is due to his collaborators yet he is considered one of the best directors ever. These directors are surrounded by better and more experienced talent than Yamada whose studio because of its system focuses on younger staff and won't hire anyone over the age of 21 I believe.

>>157504862
>commie garbage subs
Yet everybody here uses them
What are your general purpose alternatives, you fucking special snowflake?
Fucking horrible subs?
Ahahahaha, kek

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Was this really necessary?

>>157505076
Best addition to the movie.

>>157505202
>or else you'd be like Sayo Yamamoto

Is that a bad thing? You know that YOI has been acclaimed by athletes right? You know that its BD sales are the highest in 2016 right? http://www.someanithing.com/4324
At least she's ambitious and doesn't stay in her comfort zone.

>>157505281
To win the most prestigious award ever you must be exceptional artist, not some pandering to trouseres-sniffing nolife retards hack
That's why no anime director ever aside from Miyazaki will ever win Oscar

>>157505263
Well, CR is always better than commie.

>>157505263
By 'everybody here' using commie you meant you, right?

>>157505696
>Is that a bad thing?
Yes it's a bad thing to have your production turn to garbage and actively hurt your work in both form and content. It's a bad thing to not have your ideas be able to come through because of bad scheduling and compromises. I'd only hope you're referring to Hosoda as the one staying in the comfort zone and not Yamada or else you'd need to get a reality check.

>>157505342
based brazil

>>157505342
Was he a good father? Does the manga expands on it, why is he not in the first part of the movie?

>>157505730
So you're saying kyoanifags are not in any authority to say anything right, correct? Glad we got that out of the way.

>>157505734
i mean whole /a/, including you
>>157505987
>kyoanifags are not in any authority to say anything
yes

>>157506100
>>157505830

>>157506100
You are probably the most retarded person which I met here in last month. Congrats.
Ps.
I don't use any subs.

>>157505730
>Oscar for animation
>prestigious
You win by how much money you pour into campaigns. The voters want to make the animation category full 3D and think hand drawn animation is outdated.

>>157506186
>I don't use any subs
Because you are so mentally impaired that you can't even read text from screen, and you have to use dub?
Geez man, and you have balls to call others retarded.

>>157505943
Sayo Yamamoto is the true underdog of the story here. If you followed the story of how YOI came to be, you'll understand that she's been doing it for the love of skating. She started up from the animator expo and when she finally adapted the short into an anime, it got positive reception thanks to her directing talent. Bad scheduling is unavoidable since she had to work with a studio that did freelancing, but you can see how amazing it is for her to be able to hold off on her own. I'm not gonna sit here and let you take shots on her.

>>157506523
I don't know if it's a bait or your bird brain just can't process the fact that someone has an ability to learn new languages.
Also
>hating the dubs
>while loving the commie
No, it is surely a bait.

>>157506603
All of her shows are still artistically compromised and YOI is the work that least conveys her talent. She's not the only director with a passion for what she's doing and she's always been the most prominent female figure in the industry doing work on Samurai Champloo, Panty and Stocking, Space Dandy, Texhnolyze, Persona and the expos. I don't know what led you to believe I was attacking her, she just an example of someone being held back by the circumstances surrounding her. You should be happy YOI is getting a film instead because it gives her more creative freedom and she won't be hindered by scheduling.

>>157507290
This guy is correct.

God this thread is garbage. I started reading it and then just gave up. It's impossible for there to be a decent discussion on /a/ where this studio is involved. Most people have already decided before even watching it if it's good or bad and are just watching the film for reasons to justify that opinion both on the negative and positive side.

>>157507710
And then I forget to use sage. I should just kill myself.

Waste of time: The movie

Horrible use of depth of field: The movie

>>157507800

>edgy the post

>>157500517
How much better would Katachi have been if God's Shaft had made it?

>>157508198
It would go from a 9/10 film to 4/10, or maybe 3/10, although 2/10 is also not out of the question.

>>157500640
That's a lot of movies to exclude. Inb4 "Antichristplex bribed theaters to not show Katachi."

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>>157488454
Isn't this from that one manga with a completely shitty unfinished ending of "lol maybe something happens idk"
Yeah no thanks

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>>157504079
Is that inferiority complex I see?

Shaftcucks will defend this.

>>157508198
With current state of Shaft, with tons of ugly 3DCGi? No, thanks...

>>157508259
>4-2/10

Nice hyperbole. At least you tried.

>>157508626
Hyperbole would be to say shaft would make it unwatchable which is not impossible. Atleast a 2/10 film is watchable, just barely though.

>>157508198
It'd have meme headtilts and they'd get sign language images off of google instead of animating.

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>>157495959
>She'd probably be really self-conscious about saying lewd stuff too.

>>157508432
>Everything must be resolved
Is this some murican meme or what??

>>157509317
I remember third one! It means actually tsuki (love).

>>157505076
I fucking loved this scene. It was so cute how Nishimiya got a chance to innocently call Ueno an idiot.

>>157502795
>Yamada is an a(r/u)tistic savant who struggles to communicate
where is this narrative coming from? she just seems like a normie to me

>>157503446
Moonfag here, nii-sama subs did a good job.

>>157505342
>random racial caricature
This movie would never succeed with western film critics

>>157509679
What, Brazilian guys can't wear camo and work out now?

>>157505342
BIG BRAZILIAN COCK
B
C

>>157505342
KnK has touches on many problems in society
foreigners
unemployment (comment about Pedro having to look for job)
NEETs (Shouko's imouto)
suicide
disabilities
bullying
single mothers

>>157505958
Probably for the same reason Shouya's sister never appeared either.

>>157508432
Anime cuts everything that happens after the festival, making it considerably less shit.

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Face it, she'd make an amazing gf and a mother to your children

>>157510192
She appeared albeit headless in the manga.

>>157510288
She was a total cow who betrayed everyone constantly.

His best friends from school were total shits too.

>>157510288
That retard face.
Loud obnoxious wiffe and children with PTSD. Sounds awesome.

>>157488576

To condense several volumes of manga into a two hour film obviously meant that significant parts of the plot and character development would need to be reduced or skipped entirely. Unfortunately, that meant skipping out essential background for a lot of characters making the overall story weaker and severely skewing many characters portrayals and behaviour.

>>157488454
Just finished the movie, it was great, but I need to ask, Is Tumbrl mad cause they didn't show the tranny?

>>157510319
As she did in the anime. Both were missing for considerable amounts of time in the story.

>>157509100
>headtilts bad

They're no worse than fogged-up camera lenses and giving characters so much blush it looks like they have scarlet fever.

Really disappointed with the visuals. Animation was good but the colors look so muted and so much bloom that feels unnecessary most of the time. I expected better from KyoAni.

>>157511266
>the colors look so muted

Carlos please.

>>157511266
The color palette was gorgeous.

>>157488454
>classmates making small gestures to him, obviously trying to include him even though he shuts them out


When was this?

>>157511517
In the beginning, there was shot of Shouya looking around in first person, and you can very clearly see someone looking at him and saying something. Another time a couple clasmates ran to the window in front of him, tapped on his desk and trying to get him to look out the window as well.

>>157511266
What the actual fuck is this opinion.

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>>157511266
>muted colors
>what's monoprice TN panel?

>it's okay to forgive people who bullied you, in fact you should beg them to forgive you...for something
>it's okay to forgive cunts who shifted the blamed, singled you out and abandoned you to cover their asses and years later hypocritically pretended like you're the one who ruined it all
Are these really good lessons to teach children? There's turning the other cheek, and there's turning the other buttcheek and letting yourself get fucked till it gapes.

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>>157502078
>Shouko fighting Shouya
I was yelling at her to smother that motherf*cker

>>157512915
It's Japan. If someone is bullied it's fault of that person because there is always a reason to be bullied.

>>157510448

The problem is they showed zero "Shared" bullying. It's funny but Ueno near the middle of the film when they are older is 10x the bully that she was portrayed as during the formative years prologue. Ok, why didn't they spare 1 quick cut of anyone but Ishida bullying during the montage? What, they didn't have 5 seconds to spare? The Prologue doesn't just make Ishida out to be the chief bully, but it makes him out to be the only bully and everyone else was under his dictatorial regime. Poorly constructed and I don't know what the point was since it muddies the narrative comprehension later on down the line.

>>157513095
I was laughing at the theatre with this scene. Everyone looked at me

>>157512915
>Children are cunts
Why in the world would a healthy adult hold grudges from their elementary years?

I just watched it like 30 min ago because I came across some YouTube trailer about this. I loved it and did the same with kimi no na wa

Are there more movies from the creator or similar to this.

>>157514615
>The Prologue doesn't just make Ishida out to be the chief bully, but it makes him out to be the only bully and everyone else was under his dictatorial regime.
For me everyone else was indifferent or playfully saying things like "Oh you're so mean!". They weren't coerced to do anything.

>>157515047
Buh bye now

>>157488454
>a movie of a popular manga comes out from the top dog casualfag studio
>it's relatively successful
Whoa, who would have guessed?
It's just a fucking movie and it's not raking in a single percent of Kimi no Na wa's profit, so its existence literally doesn't matter.

>>157509532
The real take away is that Ueno looked up the sign language for "dorry" and "stupid".

>>157510595
Daily reminder that Sha*t is a poorfag meme studio that got lucky a couple times, developed delusions of grandeur, and isn't worthy of being taken seriously at all since Kizu.

>>157514888
How can you be healthy adult after being severely bullied?

>>157488454
anyone knew what the "speed of youth" bonus from BD is all about?

>>157515325
They even dropped the game what led them to have a big fanatical following, namely the hot lolis and fanservice of them.

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>>157515153
?

>>157515490
Monogatari isn't over yet.

(Will Ara-araragi ever get off the boat?)

>>157515510
Are you 8?

>>157515047
Look up the directors, Naoko Yamada and Makoto Shinkai. Their previous works are at least visually similar

Solid 6/10 movie. A little too melodramatic and not much characterization for majority of the side characters. Though that's to be expected since they tried to cram an entire manga into a couple hours.

I wish KyoAni would actually try to make an original movie instead of adaptions every time.

>>157515477
https://streamable.com/va6mu

>>157516054
thanks anon, got the link for koi no shita no wa?

>>157515849
No but you clearly are underage schlomo

>>157515862
Thank you. I shall look into it. Hoping to find some other good anime movies since I don't really watch animated movies normally just series

>>157516110
Here: https://streamable.com/xju9o

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Anybody actually like those inconclusive endings? Who is the target audience for that shit? Did it ever improve sales? Does it make critics like the movie more? Is it some kind of misguided 'creative integrity'?
Do they only do it to spite us?
I don't understand it.

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>>157497640
>raised the bar for modern anime in cinematography, shot composition and sound design

I want to believe that posts like this are b8 but KyoAni fans on here seem to be extremely rabid so I'm not even sure at this point.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Silent-Voice-Miyu-Irino/dp/B071VGDT2M/

It's out in the UK, so official subs release when exactly? Anyone got an idea?

>>157516219

Are you talking about Anime in general or the Film Koe no Katachi? Because the film ends perfectly fine. What exactly was inconclusive about the ending?

>>157516595
No kissu. No 'I love you'. No 10 years after with their kids.

I was kind of disappointed by the visuals. It barely looked better than Hyouka.

>>157516692
Hyouka did look better. Even the animation in this movie was nothing to write home about. There were several shots where this movie had TV quality level animation which is kinda inexcusable.

>>157516642
The story wasn't about if Ishida and Nishimiya would get together, it was about a young man's sins and his seeking redemption and forgiveness.

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>>157494144
>Nii-sama
Fucker why are you trolling people.
Pic related clearly says '[I'm] returning [your] money' What they translated it as doesn't even make sense in the context of the story. Not gonna waste more time finding all the mistakes but such basic one in first few lines of text doesn't bode well.

Everyone memed me about Your Name's fantastic staff of animators and directing but this film was just aesthetically superior. The delicate texture, the weight to the character's tiniest of movements, the lighting and scene transitions, the color palette, it was just better. Feeling tricked.

>>157503935
>>157509576
Why would you lie on the Internet.
(see >>157517059)