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>isekai >reincarnation >gender bender YAMETEEE

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>isekai
>reincarnation
>gender bender
YAMETEEE
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>isekai
>video game
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>isekai
>MC invents gunpowder
This retarded shit has got to stop.
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>isekai
>protagonist uses video game logic
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>isekai
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>>157258345
Too deep for you?
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>>157258345
>isekai
Eeeeh
>gender bender
Hmm maybe
>futa
Aaaaaw yeaaaah
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>>157258345
Stay mad my nigga.
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Touhou is the only good isekai with like 2 or 3 characters?
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>>157258345
>complaining about gender bender
I think you need to leave.
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>isekai
>protagonist's "skills" from his pervious life makes him a soon-to-be god king in the new world
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>>157258345
>isekai
>level system
>cheat skill
>skill stealing
>overpowered protagonist
>slaves
>dense male lead
Ayy that really hits the spot.
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>Isekai
>MC starts with a power level of 8,000,000+ while the strongest being in the world caps at 1000
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>>157259242
>it turns out his power level is fake and his cheat skill is scaring the shit out of everybody with his fake stats
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>>157259076
It's the best isekai simply because it says that most people isekai'd there ask raymoe to get them back home asap, and she does. Few stay, mostly those who have a reason to stay like Moriya shrine gals.
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>>157259365
>>157258537
>get isekai'd
>invent nuclear fission
>build giant robot
Fucking Moriya, I swear.
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>>157259365
>only a few of the 2hus got to join the isekai from PC-98 world to windows world

RIP in peace, Mima
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>>157258345
Sounds lie you didn't have fun.
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>>157258345
Sounds amazing man
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>>157258345
>implying
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>>157259599
I legit like this one. Lili is cute, and Kuti is Kuti.
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>>157258345
>Isekai
>Slaves
>No slave rape
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>>157259638
Just read it over two days. It's the slowest moving WN I've ever read, but it's cute.
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>>157259684
Not every story can be balls to the wall power fantasy. Sometimes you just have to chill and read about a cute baby growing up.
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>>157258345
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>>157259714
I'm actually wondering if future chapters will actually follow daily life and relationships in school. Because that will actually be pretty interesting.
Isekai school life is always fun to read.
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>>157259776
Now that I think on it, I can't think of one WN I'm reading that involves just going to school.
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>>157259599
Just take a look at this pile of diabetes.
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>>157259714
The power fantasy is at the edges of the story with the grandparents and maids.
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>>157259836
Scary Obaa-sama is scary
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>>157259860
>this
>a granny
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>>157258345
>gender bender
Are you just talking about Youjo Senki or is there another one?
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>>157259935
That's grandma? She's muuuuch younger looking than I thought.
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>>157259935
She should have had a more confident/ less moeblob face and with her tied up hair.
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>>157258790
>Tentacles
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>>157258345
Dragoon is terrible and has none of these tropes. Still manages to top the ranking. I really don't know how this happens.
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I want to write an isekai about a young adult who reincarnate as a 12y farm boy in a medieval fantasy with 3 major kingdoms, one of Human Wizards (Magicka style), another of a Vampire Lord and one of a Lich King
His OP power is perfect memory, after he reincarnates, his memories of earth delete everything about the 12y farm boy life, but now he can retain every informartion he aquire.
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>>157260138
Dragoon truly is horrible, why the translators pick this shit, there has to be a lot more interesting stories out there, is it because they're so fucking easy to translate or what
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>>157260189
Also, too bad im bad at writing

What do you guys think?
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>>157259950
There's a fucking truckload of genderbender isekai.
>>157259978
The main page of the translation has illustrations for every character if you want to look it up.
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>>157260217
I'd rather he go back to translating spess porn transporting shenanigans.
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>>157260189
No swords?
I always liked magic more than swords, but mushoku tensei has shown me that fantasy sword play is cool as shit.
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>>157260231
It's shit.
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>>157260264
>There's a fucking truckload of genderbender isekai
Yeah and there's only like 2 or 3 decent futa ones. It's a tragedy.
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>Isekai
>No video game logic, no stat screens, no bullshit cheating
>No incredible background, like some jack of all trades with crazy knowledge or a military expert
>Just a dude brought to an entirely unfamiliar world with only what he had at the time of death

Does such a thing exist? Youjo Senki is all I can think of, but it has bullshit like the MC being the chosen one (if being God's enemy counts).
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>>157260310
>not relying on your trusty hammer and bident
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>>157260348
only thing that comes to mind is mark and it hasnt been update for a year now
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>>157258345
>still read everything involving isekai

Isekai is my guilty pleasure. Post rare isekais. No WN/LN.
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>>157260348
Grimgar.
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>>157258345
>>gender bender
Could do with more of those in the mix!
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>>157260264
>There's a fucking truckload of genderbender isekai.

Seriously even when you think it's safe you get surprise genderbending like with the first .hack anime.
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>>157260348
release that witch is pretty good, but it's chinese wn

gets 5 chapters a week, at 305ch
it's about mechanical engineer getting clocked to death and reincarnating into a prince
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>>157260310
Well, the spell system in Magicka let me enchant the equipped sword
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>>157260403
>No WN/LN
That's like 99.9% of all isekai.
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>>157260496
Release that Witch is the pinnacle of "jack of all trades with crazy knowledge". A mechanical engineering background does not excuse the bullshit amounts of detailed multi-disciplinary technical knowledge MC knows.
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>Isekai
>PTSD
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>>157260496
My only problem with Release That Witch is that the witches he get is always useful, even the ones he didnt chosen
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>>157258537
Them inventing anything has got to stop.

Knowing about something doesn't mean you can build it and I'm getting tired of Jap writers making these neets with zero actual skills know how to do shit like this.
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>>157260348
Besides poisoning her whole family at the age of 2 due to them being Elizabeth Bathory tier assholes Eliza has fucking nothing abnormal about her, if anything her whole life has been >bad thing happens>tries to get over it>finally settles into a routine and attains a modicum of happiness>something goes horribly wrong>try to get over it>repeat.
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>>157260403
>12 Beast
Ninja gets pulled into a world of Monstergirls
>Goblin is Very Strong
Isekai protag isn't the protagonist, and gets griefed by a cute goblin girl.
>Konjiki no Word Master
Dude gets pulled in with a group destined to be heroes, but doesn't care. Becomes a mercenary with a cheating spell. Lots of fluffy girls
>Nectar of Dharani
Loser gets forced into a world via summoning, becomes a raging monster when he sucks a princess' breast.
>Tensei Shitara Kendeshita
Dude becomes a sword, gains insane magical capabilities, and is wielded by a cute catgirl slave.

Best literal who series I can think of. They're all pretty wish fulfilling though, so don't take them seriously.
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A guy who maxed out all crafting skills on his mmo character get's isekaid into the middle of nowhere. Thinking he is fine where he is, he decides to build a home, then some friends, then a village.
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>>157258537
It's not that bad if the culture they're in is at the stage of alchemy/taoism where they have isolated elements and vaguely know that chemistry is a repeatable science and they can extract sulfur and saltpeter.

It's bullshit like them making guns that's autism-worthy. Even a simple spring is a bitch for most pre-industrial societies, and each is normally a custom one-off job that isn't easily repeatable (which also makes standardized measurements also similarly impossible), much less an entire trigger mechanism or a working flintlock.
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>>157260571
Yeah, exactly this. I don't know why it gets so much praise, the MC has absolutely unbelievable amounts of knowledge about every single technological advancement that gets handwaved because he "studied civil engineering in college"
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>>157260678
Shit Ive read all of them. Im beginning to think Ive seen almost all of them. Even videogame tropes would be fine, not necessarily isekai.
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>>157260646
That's kind of the point I was making. Having read the ingredients (and mixing ratio which many authors tend to conveniently forget) of gunpowder on wikipedia or some shit does not mean you can successfully mix it without blowing your hands off.

Then there's the whole issue of weaponizing it because it's difficult enough to make cannons, but proper rifles would be even harder, but that's also something that's easily glossed over.

Drifters is probably the only isekai that handled gunpowder reasonably well.
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>>157258537
>they use magic stones and a different powder mixture for a gun equivalent
>another person from Japan happens to be some de-aged mafia assassin who then kills golems with colt revolvers
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>>157260348
I don't remember any truly "game"-related material from Mushoku Tensei, however the MC does have a cheat (by accident). It's vaguely balanced by him being the stereotypical glass cannon mage where it's nearly impossible to be that squishy in that world.
There ARE bullshit ranks for stuff, but it's mostly arbitrary (think martial arts belt colors signifying relative rank/skill) and easily ignored as they're de facto, not deus ex de jure "you leveled up" crap.
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>>157260673
what's that?
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>>157260818
It's a long-running chink thing so of course it will get shilled.
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>>157260763
Like this bullshit.
Some isekai'd highschooler knows how to make a gun and communicate it to blacksmith to make.

It's meant to be a comfy story, but a lot of things are just dumb.
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>>157261021
Akuyaku Tensei.
http://www.novelupdates.com/series/akuyaku-tensei-dakedo-doushite-kou-natta/
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Cultivation
Saving Face
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>>157260496
I liked it at first, but it goes Roland's way just waaaaay too often. As well, once he starts bringing out his chemistry knowledge, it sort of jumps the shark.

It is fucking impossible for a mechanical engineer to remember a textbook's worth of basic college-level chemistry unless they deal immensely with it at work (which I doubt, considering Roland didn't seem to be part of a pharmaceutical/chemical/research-academic workplace).
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What is the absolute most blatant isekai series? Game stats, stat screens, inventory management, cheat skills, and so on. Something like Re: Monster, but with more bullshit.
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>>157261093
Arifureta, i guess
It has everything
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>>157261093
Anything Korean. They fucking love game reincarnation and stats that make no sense.
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>>157261060
At the very least, considering the protagonist's perspective and the fact that the new people are ridiculous and exist in all sorts of ways that throw everything they knew into disarray, it could be construed almost as like a parody or deconstruction of the usual RPG isekai shit. Especially with the beast tamer delinquent who gets monster girls wanting his dick, while the nice healer guy laments that he's been totally ignored for any sort of attention.

And the girl that got isekai'd ahead of all of them in a completely different way is super stalkerishly obsessed with protag's cock and masturbates to his underwear behind everyone's backs.
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>>157261060
I hate that so much. Just once I'd like to see a first-of-its-kind isekai gun explode from just a simple BP charge in someone's hands catastrophically (NOT like in Gun-Ota, which is the fucking example of isekai cheat-knowledge tripe where the MC is such an autist that he apparently memorized the exact contours and specs down to the headspace to make a fucking AK and 7.62x39 rounds).
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So, where would I go about posting an isekai series? Can a filthy gaijin like me make it? I'm genuinely curious.
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>>157258345
>Isekai with real life military involved.
>Reverse isekai.
>Gender bender.
I like it.
America should make American army vs Game of Thrones, the show.

>reincarnation
Yeah, people have to invend an another way to introduce real life tech in fantasy world.
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>>157261060
>implying that the gun in the picture isn't a piece of trash.
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>>157259645
You could have asked for the full pic
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>>157261239
>Japanese military invades isekai land.
>Can not be defeated because technology.
>Everyone gets wives at the end of it.

GATE was garbage and anyone who likes it is a busta.
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>>157261223
Reddit. Some guy is actually making money off his reincarnated as a magic academy story. He drew awful pictures and I didn't think he was gonna make it, but he kept at it.
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>>157261239
>America should make American army vs Game of Thrones
So basically The Salvation War
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>>157261093
I hated the skill/level-up system in Kumo Desu Ga (and it jumps the shark hard anyways in the later story, so it's not worth the effort to read).
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>>157261093
Isekai Shihai no Skill Taker is the most shameless isekai manga that I've seen. It's almost like a parody of itself.
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>>157261297
>GATE
>not G.I. Samurai
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>>157261297
This

Gate is fucking garbage and the worst kind of 14 year old fanwank
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>>157261297
Say that to my gun Roman and see what happens
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>>157261223
Amazon. There's so much fucking amateur-hour tripe in the Kindle store of Western isekai and it expands daily.
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>>157261067
thanks, I remember reading it last year when they were doing the other villainess translation
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>>157261329
Anything with the 'skill stealing' tag is probably going to be pretty trash.
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>>157261269

No kidding, should have build a shotgun style weapon instead of this garbage.
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>>157261378
Get out of here Keagan, I know it's you.
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>>157260987
just finish binge read the entire manga so far yesterday, totally love it so far but I dont like how Sylph has been totally forgotten ... I went to the wiki and indeterminately got spoiled since they dont have like spoilers tags yet or something like that so yeah, seems that If I bother with the LN ... it sure will be a bumpy ride,uh? There was a thread of the lastest chapter afew days ago here but I didnt bookmark it
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>>157261460
What if skill stealing only works one at a time, and he can't use a forgotten skill until he steals it again? Like dropping a longsword for a dagger.
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>>157261321
>Can not be defeated because technology.
Bureaucracy is their weakness.
If the empire could talk with EUA, the nukes would rain over Japan's head, except at the gate.
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>>157261467
Fuck you Sam
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>>157261524
Means to be for
>>157261297
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>>157261501

Sylph gets turned into diamonds by the human god.
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so good isekai are off the table
what are amusing isekai manga
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>>157258345
Recommendations?
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>>157261216
or at least go through some serious R&D to make it viable
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>>157261060
>>157261463
>no stock
>large caliber
>short barrel
>probably not rifled
You are better off using the ammo with a sling rather than this. At least the sling still works when wet.
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>>157261613
Eh that's not really isekai, though it is very amusing.
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>>157261463
Eeh, I'd figure myself that it's easier to build an arquebus than a shotgun. An issue is finding a wad material that's not going to clog up the gun from incomplete combustion remnants (because it could physically block further pan powder charges) and as well hoping the setting's metallurgy can take shotgun charge pressures (unless you're loading itty-bitty shot).
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>>157260348
He'd be dead in vol 1, stop fooling yourself.
No shit mc like that will survive in a fantasy land.
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>>157261642
>those chapters where Shield Hero thinks his waifu racoon dies, so he goes mad scientist, makes a evil base out of a monster plant, and makes a army of unkillable racoons.
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>>157261501
i hate it how LN turned out to be alternative timeline with bad end
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>>157261501
The LN is far better in exposition and pacing. The manga goes at a breakneck pace, and while it explains the overall story, you miss the true jewel of Mushoku Tensei being standout amongst other isekai of its vein, where Rudy does go through a lot of internal strife in terms of growing up and taking responsibility.

You won't see Sylphie again for a while, but it makes more sense once she's back (except for the stuff related to Eris exiting for that part of the story, which is retarded).

Unfortunately that same great characterization is thrown out completely and goes to SAO-tier whenever it's related to him getting his dick wet, but that's thankfully relatively uncommon.
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Since bipedal big robots is unrealistic, I want to see more works like this.
Isekai with robots.

>>157261707
Sorry, It was an accidental post.
I forgot to turn off the autoposting.
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>>157261756
If it was a female MC she could easily survive by whoring herself out.
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>>157261878
>ever turning off auto-posting
You should always be posting anon.
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>>157261910
>If it was a female MC she could easily survive by whoring herself out.
>No isekai where the MC get's gender bent, and get's the cheat skill of becoming more powerful the more s/he has sex.
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>>157260342
I've found no decent futa isekai. Any of them translated?
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>>157258345
Those are the least isekais you fucking imbecile.
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>>157261870
>The LN had better pacing/exposition.
There is almost no LN to Manga adaptation where this isn't true because they need to compress everything to fit into the manga.
Really a shame to be honest but I don't blame them.
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>>157261305

Seriously? what's the name of the series? I didn't think it was that easy.
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>>157261910
No joke, there was an isekai with this exact premise. It was a takes-its-melodrama-so-seriously-it's-actually-silly harlequin jousei manga though. I forget the name, but some girl ends up in Edo-period Tokyo (i.e. Edo) and works as a hooker, conveniently surrounded by beautiful fuccbois who buy her and compete for her attentions (and not a single mention of STDs or gross Johns she has to service).
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>>157261957
So basically, "no isekai where the MC is reincarnated as a succubus."
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Is there any Isekai where MC just decides to fuck shit up?
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>>157258375
>videogame isekai
>MC beats the shit out of his friends and his crippled brother to get them back to the real world
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>>157262075
>decent isekai

No. But Summoned Slaughterer acts on that premise and isn't completely shit because the protagonist at least admits that he's a fighting-obsessed sociopath.
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>>157261967
Rose in a Yuri Field is just porn, but somewhat decent.

Dragon's Bloodline is okay. Guy get's isekaid, decides to pick Dragon Bloodline as his cheatskill. He turns into a girl. It takes a while for some romance to happen, but it's actually pretty sweet. s/he is able to get a dick if they legit want to mate with someone.

I've probably read others, but those two stick out.
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>>157262016

STD's are mainly a problem imported from the west but the no ugly John deal needs some explaining.
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>>157262075
There's a bunch of them, but they're mostly shit. Although I might be mixing revenge-fantasies in there.
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>>157258537
Re Zero did it right where the MC only tries to get clever in arc 4 with a flour bomb and it completely fails
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>>157258345
There is not a single good Isekai manga/anime/LN.

This is a fact.
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>>157259242
That series is fun though
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>>157262158
You forgot the muh katana fetish the Dragon's Bloodline MC has.
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>>157259427
Touhou 17 soon, fellow mimafag.
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>>157261507
It'd be funny if he can only steal skills randomly and only gets stuck with shitty ones he has to use creatively to get by. Not that by creative I don't mean "oh look, due to plot convenience I ended up in a situation where my randomly aquired skill is absolutely perfect" unless the MC somehow engineers that kind of situation.
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>>157262138
I dropped it somewhere around the late 60s because the MC's 'lets all have a war because I wanna kill people' mood is insufferable.
Does it get better?
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>>157262246
Nah, watching a dude constantly fail stays entertaining for only so long.
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But isn't every isekai supposed to be wish fulfillment?
The only difference is whether or not it takes a form you like
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>>157261767
>The racoons are genetically programmed to mock the shit out of raphtalia when they see her
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>>157262340
Of course not, I was only giving it as an example based on that criteria. It's still a pretty shitty "superior nihon techniques folded one mirrion times" wankfest.
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>>157262356
The issue is HOW MUCH wish fulfillment? Or rather, the method it goes about it.

In Mushoku Tensei, the MC had to work hard for everything he got. The main cheat he got was incidental; it was a result of him conveniently just retaining his memories of his disgusting NEET life and sincerely regretting it and hoping to be a good person given a literal second chance.

In stuff like Re:Monster or Gun-Ota, the MC is some autist who has either cosmic power on a plate because reasons and is a selfish sociopath or is just an autist who has shit tossed into his lap like a waifu and is apparently enough of an aspie to have bothered memorizing mechanical specs and designs for shit he has never been allowed to have or shoot in real life (i.e. guns) which he uses to then make actual functioning mechanically-advanced guns such as revolvers and a fucking AK.
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>>157262356
>But isn't every isekai supposed to be wish fulfillment?
Just because the majority are doesn't mean that's what they're for, having to dig through a thousand mounds of shit to find a single rough diamond is a pain though.
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Anons, Isekai genre and LNs in general are aimed at young teens.

It is like blaming Harlequins for having retarded romance wish fullfillment.

You won't get deep stories here because the point is to self insert.
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>>157262006
He posted everything on reddit and his things are in the best selling of amazon e-books at one point. https://www.reddit.com/r/noveltranslations/comments/605irt/tl_i_was_reincarnated_as_a_magic_academy_100_luck/
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>>157262016
Yeah, it's Oiran Chirashi.

It was weird, even for otome standards.
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>>157262755
Otome anything are always great for comedy
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>>157262811
Do women find this sexy? Or is it funny to them too, but they allow it because it comes from a husbando? Much how we enjoy waifus doing silly shit.
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>>157258345
>isekai
>reincarnation
>not gender bender but looks like a girl anyway
I'm fine with it.
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>>157262940
I hate that they made the MC androgynous.
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>>157262927
I imagine it entertains them about as much as a male MC with a harem of yamato nadeshiko or violent tsundere entertain guys. Maybe it's something to laugh about or to read so you can have fun shitposting about it online?
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>>157262978
Why would you hate that?

And while we at it, torrent: https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/view/923923
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>>157262755
I recently read an otome reincarnation WN that shit on its premise in the very first chapter.

The villainess the MC reincarnated as was actually a tragic figure with a sympathetic past despite her cruel actions? OK, sure. Then the author went way overboard and the setting of the story "mysteriously" changed so that her backstory not only got even more outrageously sympathetic, but the heroine's family became comically villainous in contrast,with their previously benevolent and gentle game personalities getting replaced with stereotypical villain ones. And the cherry on top is that the heroine of the game is ALSO a reincarnated person with memories of another life, and she's an incredibly self-absorbed bitch.

Like, what's the point of reincarnating as the "villainess" now when the story has mutated to the point where she's now a stereotypical heroine and the heroine is a stereotypical villainess now? Why don't you just be honest and have MC reincarnate as the heroine to begin with instead of going through all these convoluted steps to completely flip the roles? The "villainess turns into a good person and the heroine turns into a bitch" premise gets completely drowned out if you go as far as changing their family's personalities to match using deus ex machina.
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>>157259645
raping slaves has always been frowned up. people still did it of course, but it was more acceptable to beat them to death than to rape them.
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>>157263058
>Why would you hate that?
Because I can't fap to it or self-insert as a trap, so I'm left with observing the story as I would a normal adventure rather than isekai, and quite frankly it's not great as a story (not bad however, considering it could be SAO-tier).
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>>157263172
Just self-insert as his bro, he's the most stereotypical MC ever who happens to be a side character.
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>>157263097
Was that Duke's Daughter? It sounds like it.
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>>157258345
I think you mean
>Im dimonds
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>>157263172
>I can't fap to it
Erectile dysfunction?
>self-insert
I want this meme to end.
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>so I'm left with observing the story as I would a normal adventure rather than isekai
This doesn't even makes sense.
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>>157263146
>as a modern Japanese person, I simply cannot stand the idea of slavery!
>but, I guess I have to accept that the norms of this world are different
>it can't be helped then I guess, in order to fit in with the norms of this world, I might as well buy a slave!
>oh, but I'm totally not buying a slave for sex or anything like that, okay? It's wrong to force myself on
>but I wouldn't be against the idea if she fell in love with me and made the first move...
>I mean, why would a slave ever try to pleasure their master to stay on their good side? After all, it's not like the fate of their life depends on the whims of their master! Obviously they'd only lie with their master if they were truly in love with him! Yep!
>coercion? Stockholm Syndrome? What are those? Are they tasty?
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Oubeniel's wild ride just got a update, reminder that Due is best boy.
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>>157263404
>No, it's fine! You see I even offered to free the slave (which has no real valuable experience in society and also carries the social stigma of being a slave for years) and she refused to be freed!
>She must really love me!
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>>157258345
>gender bender
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>>157263212
Nah, it's something like "As if I'd Hand Him Over to a Heroine like This!"
Duke's Daughter retains the original setting of the game and doesn't change anything, it's up to the MC and her sudden change of heart to rectify the mistakes of her original villainess self and avoid destruction.
But this story just does all the leg work for the MC to begin with by inexplicably altering the setting to reverse their roles.
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>>157263404
For some reason, this is actually too logical and cerebral of philosophy for most series involving slaves.

In Re:Monster, it's ignored entirely for the sake of pure convenience.
>it's not rape if I imprisoned my enemies and shot them up full of magical aphrodisiacs so that they'd go so insane with lust that they'd "voluntarily" be fucked by my extended gobbo family
>even the dudes too, because they're pretty and it's not gay if it's an elf
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>>157262102
Marche is a fucking douche, but he is right.
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>>157263097
>>157263212
If it is duke's daughter, then I'd like to add on to how that shit was garbage.

You can really tell the intelligence of a writer by how they write character that's supposed to be smart. They make everyone else a complete idiot.
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So the greatest currently running isekai has to be updated soon right?
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>>157263595
>You can really tell the intelligence of a writer by how they write character that's supposed to be smart. They make everyone else a complete idiot.
Talk about it. Nearly every isekai I've read with an "intelligent protagonist" ends up reading like this more or less.
>it's a "retarded evil noble tries to rape one of MC's haremettes before being effortlessly BTFO by the MC" episode
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>Otaku virgin NEET who's never even confronted another living person, nevermind been in an actual fight
>Gets into a fight
>Every attack has a "beginning" and an "end". I know this because of video games. I just have to follow through his "combo" and decipher where his attacks begin and end
>Defeats a 200lbs barbarian who's seen countless numbers of battles.
>Supporting cast: "H-He actually beat him, just who is this guy??!!?!"

The sad thing is, as bizarrely specific as this trope is, I can recall it being used in more than one work. I guess NEETS with no world experience all think along the same lines.

Then they write WNs about their sad fantasies and get many (You)s from other NEETs.
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>>157263595
At least Duke's Daughter had some splendid art.
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>>157263404
In this
>>157263469
the fucker burns through slaves faster than a smoker does boxes of cigs because SCIENCE.
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>>157263697
>Then they write WNs about their sad fantasies and get many (You)s from other NEETs.
Well, let's be honest, that's how the industry sort of works. We just pick our poisons here. ShittyNEETbux are the backbone of the waifu industry.
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>>157263715
>get hit by truck
>sent to another world
>no more delicious unfiltered lucky strikes

Why even live
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>>157258345
>Isekai
Please
>Reincarnation
I beg you
>Fantasy Setting
I'm asking you
>Magic
NO
>MC Is Blessed and has OP abilities
PLEASE
>Game Interface with status screens
STOP, FUCKING STOP ALREADY
>Level ups and Item Crafting
YAMETEEEEEEEEEEE
>A party system
KILL ME NOW
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>>157263791
Sounds like hell.

>spend all day dealing with fantasy land bullshit
>need a smoke
>no smokes in this backwater universe

Just end it all.
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>>157263809
>A party system
I fail to see the problem with this.
It seems relatively inoffensive next to all the other shit.
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>>157263860
>step in front of the nearest speeding carriage
>instead of dying you're sent to a fantasy world even further behind in technology
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>>157263791
>MC creates smoking tobacco using a local herb and invents the concept of recreational drugs in general
>Starts a market based off said concept
>"Wow, an isekai story that focuses on the socio-economic impact of recreational drugs, that might be pretty cool! I hope this stays interesting!"
>20 Chapters later
>It's generic harem shit
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>>157263866
It's just a further extension of video game interface which is one of the biggest red flags isekai can have.
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>>157263895
>choose personality trait
>dispair
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>>157263866
Why would anything limit people from forming a group to accomplish a goal short of monetary and/or logistical/tactical limitations?

That's like a group of adventurers (i.e. hobos who do odd jobs and explore random places hoping to find treasure) for no good reason other than "just because" NEEDING a tank, a healer, an aggro-magnet, a AOE specialist, etc.
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>>157263860
Quiting smocking after reincarnation would be easy because your new brain isn't addicted to cigarette jew on chemical level.
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>>157263809
At least we can take solace in the fact that no matter how shitty boukensha genre isekai stories go, the token Guild Girl will always be best girl.
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>>157263908
>MC creates smoking tobacco using a local herb
>its toxic
>MC dies
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>>157263913
>red flags
end yourself
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>>157263947
I refuse.
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>>157263895
If you go back far enough, you could be worshiped as a sage-god by Mesopotamia-level civilizations! And be forgotten to the sands of time centuries later by iconoclastic jealous-monotheists backed by an empire rolling in.

All the waifus would probably be gross and hairy though.
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>>157263936
Having a group of specialists exploring something where their skills might be useful sounds like a good idea for general survival you know.
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>>157264007
If you are worshiped that hard you could probably teach them to shave and wash.
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>>157263964
Nah he won't. Because he's too smart and clever and will only make and SELL the drugs, and probably say shit like "heh, the people of this world are simple-minded and easy to exploit."

He'll probably buy cheap slaves to experiment his new drugs on, and record the effects various drugs have on the different races of the fantasy world.
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>>157262356
wish fulfillment is a waste if there is nothing else to back it up.
I can lay in bed and imagine all of my wildest fantasies tailored specifically to me. If wish fulfillment is all an anime/LN have going for it, then its a dull failure. It also doesn't help that wish fulfillment has been broken down into a science and we only get the same cookie cuter characters, but in slightly different scenarios.
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>>157264007
>expect qt cave girls like Ayla
>get hairy things that look more monkey or troll than human
>all you wanted was to escape from the suffering of a world without lucky strikes
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>>157263962
True, Ilya is best girl.
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>>157258345
>VR
>Reincarnation
>Genderbender
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>>157264054
You misunderstand the point; the inclusion of a party system doesn't.

You hire people to complete a project as necessary and as you can, not because an arbitrary system forces you to do so. It as well forces people into ridiculous niches, like if a healer was expected to be the only one who knew how to do any healing, and anybody else could barely do first aid (if that).

People can have multiple skills and experiences they bring to a group, and some people can indeed just be tagalongs.
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>>157262278
What series is it?
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>>157264137
>you also have to wipe shit out of your asshole with your hand like a savage and then clean your hand with sand or other natural abrasives because paper isn't even invented
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>>157260086
Is there an isekai where the MC reincarnates as a tentacle monster?
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>>157261060
is it hard? all you need is some sulfur and shit
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>>157264267
Probably.
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>isekai
>MC has typical isekai special snowflake game system
>the twist: there's quests in the system
>quest requires isekai MC to become #1, his followers #1, his faction #1, etc
>quest has deadlines and if he fails he dies
>MC even with his unique cheats is actually weaker than his followers for half the series and basically has to bluff his way through
>MC's greatest advantage isn't modern knowledge per se, but simply knowing isekai tropes and exploiting his follower's plot armor
>When MC finally gets as strong as his reputation his quests are so bullshit it requires him to become his follower's plot devices without them and the world knowing about it thus making it look like the follower's own luck and destiny
>MC doesn't even get to hit on girls by the time series ends and gets booted out after he finishes the grand quest
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>>157264137
>Kill yourself so many times you end up before existence and become a god
>Still no lucky strikes
>You have access to infinite cosmic powers
>But you can't make or smoke lucky strikes
>Dedicate the rest of eternity to reincarnating other NEETs to worlds lacking their favorite addiction out of spite
>In your spree of vengeance you discover it was actually god-you who teleported human-you in the first place

Dare we go deeper?
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>>157264178
To begin with, it doesn't make sense for adventurers' favorite occupation (dungeon diving for treasure and exterminating monsters, sometimes both at once) not to be carried out by large professional companies instead of groups of four random retards.
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>>157262102
Man, I'd pay to watch a douche Marche animated.
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>>157264321
>I need some sulfur senpai
>sulfur, what the fuck is that?
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>>157264407
Yes, because it's totes worth it to go spelunking in random caves with nothing in them.
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>>157264363
>return to your world
>during your time
>you godly form entering a mortal plane causes the planet to burst into flames
>no more smokes
>cant even kill yourself anymore
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>>157258345
YOU'LL NEVER TAKE MY GENDER BENDER
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>>157264363
>>157264462
Oh god please no
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>>157264178
Ever think about why in army they have warriors (soldiers), healers (medics), rangers (snipers), etc and don't teach every person to do everything? Because it works.
>You hire people to complete a project as necessary and as you can, not because an arbitrary system forces you to do so.
Yeah, because hammer forces you to hit things with him, not because it makes sense to use it instead of hitting nails with your head.
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>>157263908
always. hate the weed plot but too many medial settings go on to have horrible pacing or do nothing with the original set up. Tsuyokute New Saga (if I recall correctly) is about a hero who killed the mao but lost everyone to do so, so he sacrifices every living person in the world to go back in time and redo the whole journey, this time wining with less loss. vol 39 and it still has not done much of anything. same with ubel blatt and many others
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>>157263791
There's a chance that the other world has cigarettes.
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>>157264007
As if those in power are keen on losing any of it. Implying you wouldn't be assassinated or used.
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>>157264007
low technology settings are not worth it. being moved to a future were there is teach but only you can use special old technology is were its at
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>>157258345
Would you prefer gender bender isekai *without* reincarnation?

>>157258596
Actual japanese people actually do that.
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>>157263595
Time travel isekai otomes are easier to make the rest of the cast, by virtue of allowing the MC to read ahead and knowing her opponents like the back of her hand having been fucked in the ass in her previous life.

Military Empress and others do a good job showing how cunning and clever the MC's enemies are (for the setting anyways), but naturally it means jack shit when you're battling a time traveler specifically getting cold revenge on you. Still, the word play and exchange of words is quite refreshing compared to typical otome isekai.

Otherwise, Virtuous Wife is basically like Youjo Senki except MC is a woman to begin with and therefore uses her feminine wiles instead of going into combat.
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>>157264507
Time for a smoke lad.
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>>157264615
>Actual japanese people actually do that.
do what?
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>>157264519
In armies your regular soldiers grossly outnumber the more specialized roles.

You don't have a bunch of squads consisting of one soldier, one sniper, one spotter, and one medic. That'd be retarded.
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>>157264158
>VR
>Reincarnation
>Gender bender
> mindbreak

oh baby you hitting all the spots
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>retard jap in my discord calls all fantasy shows isekai
i hate him for being so good at pretending to be retarded.
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>>157264638
>chinkshit
>otome
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>>157263631
Sakamoto666
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>>157264722
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>>157264694
It's basically the same thing, if you actually bothered to read it instead of having your head up your ass you'd know it has it's pros and cons compared to stuff like DD and Eliza. Nip stuff is a lot more innocent and pursues ideals while chink shit is more dirty and more about using the cards you're dealt with.
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>>157264664
>what is special forces
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>>157258345
>gender bender
WHERE?
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>>157258537
Boo Boo is the only one where I saw this done well, and that was only due to the way the isekai works since humans travel back and forth (even if they only carry over knowledge) and it was done by an actual military group that would have the knowledge to create makeshift muskets and rockets.
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>>157262348
Like 4 chapters he avoids a dying horribly by identifying an imminent flashover and then uses the flashover to set a trap.
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>>157258345
>gender bender
>bad

shit taste anon, its always a good thing
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>>157264830
>>157262348
It's not so much being clever as it is being opportunistic, but it happens.

>>157264848
>always
Female-to-male.
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>>157259086
I think you meed to go back to furaffinity you disgusting freak
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>>157264863
DID I FUCKING STUTTER ANON
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>>157264655
Use video game logic.
Occasionally get hit by trucks.
Not too sure about getting isekai'd.
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>>157264638
Interesting, I haven't read either, but military might be good.
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>>157264894
What aspect of video game logic could you use in the real world? name one that did not originate from the real world.
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>>157264810
NA NA NANANNA NA NANANANANA
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>>157258537
I just realized A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court reads pretty much like 90% of all isekai.
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>>157264887
male to female is where its at, as long as MC is not some shy wallflower
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>>157264920
I swear to god some people will use the "flag desu ka?" unironically after something good happens.
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>>157264923
hellsing art did not go well with that story.
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>Isekai
>"Never underestimate the power of a japanese salary man!"
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>>157264928
it goes A Knight in Camelot(1998)>Black Knight (2001)> A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court
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>>157265027
Hey, some of those guys really do have iron willpower.
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>>157264994
Nigga you're gay.
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>>157264994
The art is fantastic, the "comedy" ruins it.
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>>157264440
You know,,, yellow stuff. Smells like egg-farts when you burn it? Huh, you don't got any?
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>>157261341
That movie is fucking awesome. The last battle sequence is amazing.
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>>157265027
Considering the amount of bullshit the suckers working for small, understaffed no-name companies have to suffer through yeah, I'd buy that some of them are crazy motherfuckers capable of doing really dumb shit under pressure.
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>>157264909
From the chapters released so far, I really enjoy how she handles situations, mainly in how she banters. I've never read any Japanese isekai series where an MC had that high level of bantz, which is surprising considering most chink shit literally just copypasta's their banter like YOU DARE?

It's definitely got weak parts, mainly the typical prince charming but he mainly serves as a contrast and match to the MC, like how Nobunaga could somehow understand Ken so easily just from food presented to him in Nobunaga no Chef despite Ken coming from a modern world and having full knowledge of history. It's that kinda dynamic, but your mileage may vary.
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>>157265059
>"Hey, it's management here. We're going to need you to reincarnate into a New World and defeat the demon lord. Deadline is Friday by 5pm. A reminder that if you can't meet it, the department head will look condescendingly in your general direction."

Never has a demon lord been decimated so fast.
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>kingdom management isekai
>the MC tells everybody to do crop rotations, fires all the corrupt bureaucrats, and bans racial discrimination against demihumans
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>>157265152
Why isn't this a series?
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>>157265144
Dungeon defense has high quality bantz. It's pretty much entirely political mindgames with maou twists.

Overlord has high quality banter at least in the eyes of everyone that isn't the MC saying them. Which is hilarious.
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>>157264994
get fucked
>>157265102
you too
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>isekai
>MC is a loser on our world
>becomes a god with snowflake skills in the other world
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>>157265166
>MC tells everyone to rotate their crops
>all the farmers rotate the seeds 90 degrees before planting them
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>Isekai where the MC just wants to be a hero, but everything he does backfires and ends up destroying the world
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>>157265166
Drives me up the wall when they make it sound so easy.
>>157265244
DD is mostly Barbatos versus Dandy/Paimon shitposting as far as bantz goes.
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>>157265166
>kingdom
>fires all the corrupt bureaucrats

Good start telling that many nobles you are removing thier heads.
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>>157265241
Sort of, only reversed and not isekai.
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>>157259935
clearly this world is full of lolicons...
>Granny at age 20
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>>157265310
Yeah, crop rotation isn't just "use a different crop ever year," as you have to rotate specific crops that draw on different nutrients and thus allow the nutrients for the next crop to replenish.
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>>157265102
yeah I was wrong, its the comedy parts that don't go well. its more noticeable since there is more comedy in drif
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>>157265166
desu beastmen wouldn't get discriminated if they didn't commit as much crime or depend as much on welfare
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>>157265346
> We're going to spread plague within borders
> and then have agents operate in a plague town
This is a great way to lose a lot of agents.
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>>157265027
That's one of their higher social classes.
>>157265059
Some of them can stay in the Boredom Room for decades!
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>>157265244
Dungeon Defense is Korean though and gookbantz has always resembled chink since they love face, and Overlord's bantz while high quality is like you said, misunderstanding. It's definitely high quality but it's not the kind I'm comparing. I get a totally different enjoyment from those series compared to Military Empress, or even Duke's Daughter which I can easily admit I enjoy only just a little bit less than Shieldbro anon.

Personally I'm just happy there's so many kinds. All this shit might not be perfect and have lots of flaws in each of them, but they all have something to latch onto at least.
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>>157261060
looks interesting to me...
what am I missing here?
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>>157265431
>MC asks why everyone hates beastmen
>gets told that violent beastmen have been killing humans for years, only recently have humans been in control
>MC goes full "w-well not all beastmen are like that, you're not being fair!"
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>>157265436
They are monsters, they probably give no fucks about such minor bacteria when you got guys who eat people whole including their poop and clothes.
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>>157265310
>>157265166
My favorite part in pic related is when the MC told the big empire "sorry, we can't sign the Helsinki Accords because then our multispecies state will turn into the post cold war Balkans".
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>>157265370
Meet her daughter and the mother of the protagonist.
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of course pol scum is already shitting on the thread
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>>157258345
>Isekai'd
>Living in a Mountain Temple with two shinto goddess moms
Is living goddess herself
>She have fun exterminating youkai
>Can try all kind of exotic dicks
I think Sanae got it good.
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>>157265244
>Dungeon defense has high quality bantz.
Even Your and My Asylum has better bantz. And it *definitely* has better mindgames.
I really don't understand why Shalv like Dungeon Defense so much.
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>>157265166
the other 2 are hard. I will admit that I know nothing about farming so I was impressed with crop rotations and how insane it would sound to tell a starving farmer to let his land rest but then I found out people have been doing it before Christ and without it there would not be enough food for medieval kingdom
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>>157265519
But that still fails to account for the fact that Rural plague quests are hero lvl 1-4 so you are literally creating XP for noobs
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>>157265551
Because watching Dandy in action is a lot more fun than the guy from Asylum and his fucking foot fetish. Fuck your logic nonsense.
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>>157265602
She plans to have elite monsters camp those spots if you read on, basically the hero is getting jumped the moment he gets there.
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>>157265489
off the top of my head I cant recall a story were MC does this on principle and not because he has a member of the out group in his harem
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>>157265538
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>>157258537
I think I've only seen this in Drifters (where it made sense because Nobunaga Oda loved guns), what other isekai do this?
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>>157265602
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>>157265642
>haha sure you lost your friends and family to violent beastmen but look right here the one in my harem isn't doing anything checkmate corrupt nobles
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>>157265166
>kingdom management isekai
>MC has no idea how to run shit, everything works out anyways because worse the "corrupt nobles" get replaced by even more villainous characters
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>>157265658
Release that witch, but the world already had a weaker version of it, MC just did a upgrade with it.
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>>157265583
Well, certain crop rotations are more effective than others.
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>>157265690
>shit gets mildly gray
>gray side is replaced with primordial evil
>antagonist dies thanking MC for freeing him
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>>157259419

a conspiracy a day keeps reimu away
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When's the next chapter of Youjo Senki going to be translated?
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Isekai is fine.
But i have to say i am more drawn to MC that dont try to force their morals on a different world and act actually selfish and work towards their own agenda.

So less goody guys that safe the world or kill the demon king or some other bullshit.

Maybe thats why i like Overlord, Youjo Senki and a chinese one "Warlock of the Magus World" makes the whole thing much more interesting.
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>>157265868
>liking edgy shit
anon...
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>>157265868
I like balance or at least when MC is being a moralfag I like him getting hit by some reality.
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>>157265538
T beastman
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>>157265868
>But i have to say i am more drawn to MC that dont try to force their morals on a different world
But Ainz is literally creating a dindunuffin utopia
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>>157265914
>not being moralfag = edgy
anon...
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>>157259419
the best I could do would be to retell move and book plots and push them as my original ideas. I would die a mediocre writer who would need someone to help fit the stories into the existing world
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>>157265868
>selfish and work towards their own agenda
try Dungeon Defense
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>>157265868
"edgy" a buzzword without any realy meaning or measure.
Nearly all of their acts are on a rational basis.
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>>157265914
>those
>edgy

At least try
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>>157265868
Uh, conquering the world forces your morals upon it as much as defeating the Demon King does,
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>>157265968
both Overlord and Senki are edge so he has a point
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>>157266022
>Abandon humanity ->Yes
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>>157265962
Yeah buts its interesting that he is even confronted with the problems that arise be it food problems because of the deaths he causes or economic problems and the crahs of trading because a "undead rules a city" and its interesting to see how he is able to create and maintain that utopia.
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>>157266040
>skeletor is considered edgy by nu/a/
>>>/out/
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>>157266040
See >>157266009
Here's the real edge >>157266022 He even having his personal edgebox.
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>>157266086
My BOI Sakamoto666 is some premium edge
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>>157258345
theres an isekai where the mc gets gender changed in his rebirth?
name?
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>>157264920
>>157264956
>"real life is a shit game"
>"the last boss has come!"
>"my X ability has leveled up"
Also unironically referring to someone being too good at something as "cheat-level".
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>>157266022
is that arifureta?
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>>157266182
There's a ton like that.
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>>157266083
Moralfags naturally have different definitions of edge.
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>>157266182
http://www.novelupdates.com/genre/gender-bender/
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>>157266217
It's better.
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>>157265035
WAT. You know Connecticut Yankee was written in 1889, right?
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>>157266083
>muh humanity is gone
>watch some raped/friendly people get killed "thats life"
>everyone but me is a subhuman idiot
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How about a story where the entire island of Japan and all its inhabitants get isekai'd into the phantasmagorical ocean of a fantasy world, something out of Lord Dunsany?
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>>157266120
>Job: Skill Hunter
>Level: 637->638
>DEF 5
>AGI 3000
>Sub S&W M57 .41 Magnum (NT Rank)

Everything hurts, nothing is good.
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>>157265470
>or even Duke's Daughter which I can easily admit I enjoy only just a little bit less than Shieldbro anon.
It's ok anon, even though i like Duke's daughter i only say IRISU-SAMA in a kind of memey way.
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>>157266331
so?
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>>157266353
Wouldn't that just end up like GATE with the JDSF steamrolling everything and establishing the glorious Greater Isekai Co Prosperity Sphere?
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>>157266429
depends on the writer. phantasmagorical ocean can have powers may end up bit like log horizon
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>>157266390
What does > mean in the context of >>157265035?
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>>157266484
It mean A Knight in Camelot a was more fun romp and would make a better isekai anime
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>>157266385
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>>157266429
>The previously undefeated General trembled
>"No," he said, his raspy voice going hand-in-hand with his tired, sunken face.
>"Even more than those loud, magical projectile weapons, the thing to truly fear are those strange, curved swords of theirs."
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>>157266527
At least the art should be good. This is high school art student's notebook level.
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>>157266598
It fits the quality of the writing.
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>>157266527
This kinda thing would be 1000x better if he just made it a hentai doujin and had someone like asanagi draw it, then at least you wouldn't need to black everything out at the bottom half.
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>>157266343
Why don't you head on over to the Congo and stop the raping and killing moralfag?
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>>157260678
Konjiki is a LN.
Gets kinda boring later because it gets generic except for his own word magic.
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>>157266598
>At least the art should be good
No the art should be low grade. It doesn't work otherwise.
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>>157260348
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>>157266682
Then it's just a generic hentai doujin. It needs to be a real release to give you the full effect.
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>>157266540
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>>157266767
It can have a mix, why does it have to be one or the other I never understood that. I mean shit like Aiki existed but no ones does that kinda format anymore.
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>>157266824
Because why do you think Coldsteel is so funny? This is the same thing.
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>>157266824
Problem with Aiki is that from what I remember now it's more our hero getting fat while pulling a Steven Seagal than tits and violence.
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Anyone else read Dungeon Defense?
It's actually quite entertaining.
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>>157260348
Not a 100% match but I recommend it anyway..
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>>157266429
How dependent is Japan on the global supply chain, particularly when it comes to food? That's not a rhetorical question I seriously have no idea.

I think it might be interesting to write about how Japanese society might respond to an existential crisis. And of course there would be a MC who has to choose between the earnestly beautiful Japanese girl who wants his D and the exotic King of Elfland's daughter who wants his D.
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>>157266885
Alright alright, early Aiki.

>>157266866
I don't see how just uncensoring the scenes of violence and sex would change it other than having to change publication platforms.
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>>157266795
>>157266540
You don't have that "one samurai alone won WWII" thingy?
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>>157266931
>the earnestly beautiful Japanese girl who wants his D and the exotic King of Elfland's daughter who wants his D.
Except he doesn't because this is isekai.
He just gets both and they're both perfectly happy with the idea.
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>>157266946
It looses the best part. The edge unseen.
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>>157267001
Why would the edge unseen be better? I don't understand the appeal. Like for example, Berserk or Kingdom, if I imagine the edgy gore scenes in those series censored I highly doubt either would become remotely as successful as they are today.

I understand how girls having skimpy clothes is better than naked at times, but you gotta enlighten me on this edge shit.
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>>157266120
>Monster Tame
I would max this out right after spamming Appraisal on literally everything.

>Bigass chimera rampaging nearby
>Tame it
>Sell it to a vendor for 10 gold and 37 silver
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>>157267087
I feel like there must be some isekai out there where the MC gets a monster taming cheat skill and finds out he can use it on demihuman girls.
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>>157265448
STOP. Don't you dare spread that abomination
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>>157267068
You gotta tease the edge, make the audience use their minds to visualise it in all its glory. Showing the edge up front is the easy way.
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>>157266258
>>157266282
thanks
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>It had taken him only a month of nonstop training to perfect this technique. And there was a reason he managed to master this superhuman feat in only a month. His Riftwalk ability. Riftwalk not only gave him the ability to heighten his other movement skills, but it also enhanced his five senses to their limit. It made it seem as if the rest of the world was moving in slow motion, which was what made midair reloading possible.

>On top of improving his weapons, he had also crafted a two-wheel mana-powered vehicle, Steiff, and a four-wheel mana-powered vehicle, Brise.

>As their description suggested, they used mana as fuel. Their frames were covered with Azantium, the hardest metal in existence. Both of them were loaded to the brim with weapons too.

>Hajime had upgraded his weapons too. He had remade Schlagen, which had been destroyed in the battle with the Hydra. He used Azantium for the frame and bullets, making it harder than before. And since he no longer had to worry about carrying it around thanks to the ring, he lengthened the barrel as well, increasing its range and power.

>He had also added a new gun to his arsenal— Metzelei, a railgun-enhanced gatling gun. The inspiration for it had come from the time they had had to fight the army of raptors and hadn’t had enough firepower to take them all on. It was a monster of a weapon, with six rotating barrels capable of firing 12,000 30mm caliber rounds a minute.

>Also, as a way to gain complete combat superiority, and simply because Hajime thought it was cool, he had created a rocket launcher called Orkan. It had a rectangular barrel, and boasted a large magazine allowing for 12 consecutive shots. He could fire different varieties of rockets too.

>He had also created a sister revolver to Donner, Schlag. Since he had a prosthetic arm, Hajime figured he could use two revolvers at once. His preferred style of combat was close quarter gun combat, gun fu basically, with Donner and Schlag overpowering his enemies.
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>>157266973
Rakudai?
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>>157267657
I don't know the name but I remember that part.
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>>157266893
Why does Volume 1 read nothing like Volumes 2, 3, and 4?

Also, why does the premise change?
If I wanted pretend war chronicles, I'd read something by 七沢またり
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>>157267599
>Hajime came towards the Black Dragon from behind. Also, the stake launched from the Pile Bunker pierced the ground between Hajime and the Black Dragon. Hajime knew the sprawled dragon wasn’t dead by percepting its presence, next, he suddenly recalled the talk with Mottou about the Ryujin race from before. The one about “kicking a dragon’s ass.”

>Hajime pulled out the stake that pierced the ground using “Grand Arm” and carried it on his shoulder as he positioned himself before the base of the Black Dragon’s tail. Following that, he made a stance just like a javelin thrower. Naturally, in his hand was the Pile Bunker’s stake.

>Everyone there was able to guess what Hajime was going to do, and their cheeks convulsed. Even though the scales were troublesome, it shouldn’t be a good thing to thrust it there(··). Even though Yue, Shia, and the others floated expressions of horror towards Hajime’s mercilessness, Hajime only thought of that as blowing wind.

>And finally, Hajime’s Pile Bunker mightily pierced the Black Dragon’s “bleep” and zuburi sound resounded. At that moment,

>“Ah— — — nanojyaaaaa — — — !!!”

>With its eyes immediately opened wide, the Black Dragon let out a heartbreaking scream as it woke up. In truth, having thrust half of the stake and using his fist to make it pierce further, as expected, even Hajime was surprised by the scream that obviously came from the Black Dragon, and he inadvertently removed his clasped fist.

>“Ass is~, this one’s ass is~”

>Because of the Black Dragon’s grieving, painful, and somewhat excited tone, everyone let out a “What the heck is this!?” in amazement as they stared at the Black Dragon while stunned.

>Apparently, it didn’t end as just a normal dragon subjugation.
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>>157259813
>>157259599
Ok, picked up.
LN got a little too edgy for me lately
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>>157267959
>it joins his harem afterwards
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>>157267959
>I’m not sure if this book betrayed your expectations or fulfilled them, but I’ll be glad so long as you derived some amount of enjoyment from it.

>I mentioned this earlier too, but this story was originally something I put up on the novel website Syosetsuka ni Narou under the pseudonym Chuuni Lover. It’s something that’s been steadily edited and refined before appearing in the form you’re reading now.

>I’m still very much a beginner when it comes to writing, so forgive me for the half-assed setting, overall lack of plot, and general randomness. I added things as they popped into my mind, and wrote a story that was more for myself than anything.

>Even now, I’m still enjoying writing this story more than anything else as Ryo Shirakome... which is why I’m truly thankful to my fans at Narou for supporting this fanfiction-tier story all the way until it got published officially.

>It’s not every day that an isekai author gets published out of the sea of isekai stories on there.

>As I’m sure those of you can already tell by my Syosetsu pen name, I’m a huge chuuni lover. Enough of one that I wrote an entire novel based on it. Enough of one that I’m going to write an entire second novel about it too.

>And I’m not the only chuuni out there. I’m sure all Japanese boys, no, boys all over the world, no, every human alive, has a bit of chuuni hidden somewhere inside them. So, to all of you chuuni lovers who have to hide away because of common sense, or your age, or how embarrassing it is, or how society sees you, if this book has helped unleash your burning soul just a little... then I consider my work complete.

>Ah, but please don’t go around unleashing it in public. You’ll cause an uproar.
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How much of the cringe in writing of this kind of shit is because it was just lacking a good editor?

I'm not exaggerating when I say that the published version took this crap from a fun 4/10 to at least a decent 6.5/10.
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>>157268323
>author tries to justify being incredibly mediocre
Wew lad.
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>>157266008
When was the last update ? I kinda forgot to check back after the two bitch decided to work together
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>>157266973
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>>157261297
I like gate it's garbage but I like it
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>>157266682
> Asanagi not making Loli porn
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>>157263631
Whatever happened to this edge, I need it
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>>157268520
What's he even working on these days anyway?
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>>157259076
Is this close enough to touhou?
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>>157268446
Never gets old.
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>>157268588
It's normally a while between updates. Last update was the end of march.
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>>157268446
Wow nippon is so strong and cool
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>>157268446
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>>157268446
>people were upset about magic alternate history japan
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>>157265671
What is this? I can't find it
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Is Goblin Slayer an isekai?
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>>157268795
Maou no Hisho
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>>157268851
It takes place in another world besides out own so yes.
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>>157268748
Yeah it's kinda weird. But people get triggered at anything these days.
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>>157268851
No, just a fantasy story.
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>Isekai
>Appear in a world where everyone is crazy and/or stupid and you're the only one with common sense
>Spend all your time yelling tsukkomis
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>>157268851
No, there's no otherworld travel. That said, it *is* a tRPG.

The manga skips it, but the LN has scenes where the "gods" playing the game throw out-of-game fits.
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>>157268927
I don't know about yelling but Death March is kinda like that. Someone will always tsukkomi every 3-4 lines of dialogue, just not always the same person.
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>>157268984
>"You didn't have to put the goblin children there. Did you seriously expect something else to happen?"
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>>157268323
The editor went a long way towards giving the MC
a proper personality and rewriting some of the more ludicrous events. However I'm not sure if even a good editor can save the idols arc and the MC's marrying multiple girls.
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>>157259365
Secondaries pls
People who get isekai'd to Gensokyo are done so by Yukari to feed the Youkai population. They die.
The Moriya Shrine was a special case of course, as they purposefully entered to preserve their powers as the outside world stops believing in miracles.
The few accidental isekais are temporary, like Maribel or Sumireko.
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>reading nip novels
Just read xianxia/wuxia, at least they go full fantasy instead of being lazy and using a game system. MCs also aren't complete moralfags that force their ideals on everyone
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>>157269551
>Just read xianxia/wuxia
Oh yeah, because hearing about cultivation or saving face a million times is so much better.
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>>157269551
>reading xianxia
How about reading proper literature, like The Three Body Problem trilogy.
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>>157265346
>cargo ships

How will they destroy the final bastion of humanity in Madagascar?
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>>157269551
Nah they appeal to different things. And to be fair chink shit has a far higher shit to good ratio since like others said, cultivation is overdone.

Honestly half the appeal for me in stuff like ISSTH is how over exaggerated it is to the point that it goes from bad to funny. About the only one I wanna read but can't is more HN1F since that one was a blast. No idea why Senior Brother gets so much support but HN1F doesn't get picked up.

I mean MCs not being moralfags doesn't mean much in chink shit when there isn't a single chink MC with morals to begin with, except maybe Brendel from TAS, but he's fused with a white guy.
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>>157269551
Instead they're sociopaths that kill everything in their path cause they were once weak and have lost someone dear.
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>>157269551
I can think of 2 tolerable XianXia (Renegade Immortal and Record of a Mortal’s Journey to Immortality) and and 1 good one (World of Cultivation).
5 Way Heaven might also be good? Haven't read it yet.

There are good WuXia, but I can't name any. Neither can you.
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>>157269858
Chinese stuff is fine for me.
But shit gets so abstract and retarded.

"He opened his fate portal and the release of his primordial dao was as if the heaven's were taking their first steps into the abyss."
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>>157268984
And they bitch when GS is around because he is so insane thay he blocks his rolls.
>Gonna roll for a headshot
>GS is wearing a helmet, not point rolling
>Gonna roll for a surprise gob attack
>GS just nuked the cave
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Does this count as isekai?
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Man /a/ is so Tsun towards isekai it's becoming a running gag now.
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>>157269969
That's not really abstract in chink standards, it just means that when he released his power level, the atmosphere became like shit hitting the fan.

Try reading History's Strongest Senior Brother. The fucking flower language is part of almost all the fight scenes to the point where my imagination is running dry trying to figure out how the fuck all that shit even looks like. At least with Er Gen shit you just know it has to do with muh Starry Sky muh Vast Expanse.
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>>157270047
Because /a/ is a single individual
As if this thread isn't 95% talking about isekai they enjoy.

>>157270093
I made up that quote. Sometimes it makes absolutely no sense though.
You can't understand/gauge someone's power if every single description in the story is abstract as fuck. The heavens were quaking when he brought out his spear, is that similar to or stronger than when the firmaments were gasping when he brings out his sword?
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>>157269959
I'll bite since you posted a thinly veiled recommendation question

ZTJ(Way of choices)
Long live summons
Shen ying wang zuo
Transcending the nine heavens
9 cauldrons
Spirit vessel

Less good

True martial world
martial world (same universe)
SOTR
Swallowed star

so-so tier
Terror infinity
BTTH

just want to read about immortals tier
Desolate erra
ISSTH
MGA
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>>157268909
>>157268748

People rightfully laugh and complain when USA #1 shit is over the top, why can't we do the same when japan does it?
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>>157270199
>You can't understand/gauge someone's power if every single description in the story is abstract as fuck
Isnt that a good thing? It does make your fantasy work
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What was that one manga called again? It was reasonably popular on /a/ I think. Some kid was transported to a fantasy world where he picked up a sentient flail. And because the gravity in that fantasy world was lower than the real world, the kid gained super strength and shit.
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>>157260348
Try Shinju no Nectar.

>Isekai
>No video game logic
>Guy is simply a studious part timer that's worked on a bunch of different jobs but succeeded in none.

Sure, he obtains a magic power of sort in the new world, but it's not really anything like a "cheat skill".
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>>157266480
The lack of translated manga chapters is disappointing.
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>>157270199
I dunno, I like it a lot better than Japanese iseka I'd insistence on giving everything a fixed numerical value with STATS and SKILLS.
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>>157266885
>>157266946

What happened to Aiki is kind of disgustingly obvious, the author wanted to sanitize it so he exchanged Joekyuu's lust for gluttony. So now he's a pathetic shrimp that only cares about superior japanese food folded one mirrion times and doesn't even rape girls like before.
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>>157270047
>"s-stupid! J-just where have you been?! I was worried you were gone forever! You have some nerve disappearing like that for a season, Isekai!... what, what's with that look?"
>"I thought you hated me, /a/"
>"That's right! I hate you! I hate the no good, horrible, useless wish fulfillment genre that you are! I hate that you're making me worry so much for such a stupid, boring kind of anime! H-how dare you make me feel like this! You better not disappear ever again! ... you'll be here for summer season, right?"
>"... yeah, I will be. Three shows, in fact."
>"haaah?! Three shows? Do you think your worthless self can be forgiven with just three shows? Don't joke around! I'm going to have you stay here forever! Isekai, you better have shows every season from now on, you hear me?!"
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>>157259427
The windows games are just a really long prequel series.
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>>157270350
Of the two evils, abstract is better than hardcoded game logic. But there is definitely a middle ground .
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>>157260348
Muv-Luv Alternative

Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash

Now and Then, Here and There

The Faraway Paladin
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>>157270199
>Sometimes it makes absolutely no sense though.

Yeah I agree, it's just insane thanks to a combination of how chinks love to over exaggerate to one up each other coupled with how their shitty novel publishing companies pay by word count so authors constantly try to pad their shit. It's one of those things where the author could do better but their environment simply doesn't reward them for it but rather the opposite.

That said, that over exaggeration sometimes leads to very amusing lines that nip shit or western novels fail to replicate cause it's simply not in their culture to go overboard like that.

>>157270260
I dunno about burgers but I'd be tired as hell if I was a /lit/ fag and people kept complaining about Twilight and Harry Potter, even if I agree with them or mostly agree with them. You guys just got nothing new to say, just a repeating record that isn't even funny, just a drag.
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>>157258345
I find funny you opened this thread about hating isekai with a pic of a girl that got isekaid.
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>>157261093
Konjiki no Wordmaster.
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>>157258345
>gender bender.
>bad
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>>157270400
They dont beat around the bush with MC being an 'average' guy either.
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>>157270400
>But there is definitely a middle ground
I believe Fate/stay night perfected that middle ground in 2004. Ranked stats with enough ambiguity and conceptual abuse to overturn simple ranks, plus rhetorical description like "if Rider was like a powerful gale then Saber's sword was like a whirlwind".
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>>157260933
basic gunpowder really isn't that complicated and once it's known of should be innovated fairly quickly through experimentation
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>>157270304
>And because the gravity in that fantasy world was lower than the real world, the kid gained super strength and shit.
tsuki ga michibiku. don't know about the talking flail though, might be another one.
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>>157260987
This some kind of Hitman Reborn sequel that I wasn't mad aware of?
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>>157270461
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>>157270508
>the mc was secretly a bit of a sociopath

Kind of weird. And when you re-read the manga you do get glimpses of it, but then you wonder why no one thought he was a sociopath before.
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>>157270389
and then they fuck
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>>157270005
Yes.

On a semi-related note, the cliches for 「Fantasy」 and 「Sci-Fi」 split in the late 60s (or early 70s?) but they are actually one genre.
If 「Fantasy」 or 「Sci-Fi」 are sufficiently explored (rather than falling back on cliches or lazy writing), they are indistinguishable.
The actual genre is called 「Weird Fantasy」, which is itself a sub-genre of 「Speculative Fiction」 (a sub-genre of 「Fiction」).
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>>157270508
I seem to recall a story where the isekai'd MC became super overpowered becaude the world he ends up in not only has lower gravity but orbits a yellow sun, which supercharges him with solar radiation.
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>>157270508
i always try to read it again when i see these threads then i stop after 1 chapter. Its so fucking bland when the MC is OC donut steel and everything about the world is more or less known ~chapters in
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>>157270549
Because apparently being a sociopath is indistinguishable from typical japanese politeness.
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>>157270389
Fund it.
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You guys ever notice that time-travel and isekai are often almost indistinguishable from each other?
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>>157270641
>You guys ever notice that time-travel and isekai are often almost indistinguishable from each other?
no, they aren't.
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>>157270595
The MC is shit but his companions carry the story just fine. The problem is the WN translation is completely fucking unreadable.
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>>157270552
>>157270617
These
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>>157270671
Yes anon, they often are.
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Supposedly this will be getting a manga adaptation soon. Probably the most decent management isekai I've read so far besides RtW. It helps that they make it clear the MC is really in over his head, and is more of an ideas guy trying to apply his analogous historical knowledge, while his subordinates are the ones who are actually competent in their fields and are the ones who correct his mistakes and turn his ideas into practical application.
Of course that only applies to the edited version.
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I continue to enjoy the Faraway Paladin.
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this is honestly so fucking bland.
The MC is a stereotypical jap MC, he gets a harem, he marries them, he has a fucking cheat skill, there are stats and skills, there's an adventurers guild, and god transported him to the isekai.
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>>157270774
>Idol
>Worthless Neet that was secretly the ultimate Grand Visier for some reason

The only good thing of that bunch is the brown elf.

>>157270809
That art looks incredibly familiar, I think that artist either has done porn or is challenging someone who has.
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>>157270641
>MC practices an emotionless way of strongest sword ever never
>dies by the hand of his best friend cause he murdered his sister in search of more power
>time travels back to his young days and goes full carefree lifestyle full of emotion
>Befriends young masters from powerful clans that the clans themselves looked down upon
>full on bromance and bantz between 4-5 with comedy included
Sure its the usual cultivation formula but it gets even more interesting later on when it suddenly turns to Zhuge Liang tier strategy between MC and military advisor of another country
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>>157270809
And slaves, don't forget slaves.
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>>157258345
Is there a historical isekai?
It would be nice to watch/read something without stupid power levels or overpowered magic
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>>157270738
Maybe for your negroid mind.
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>>157270872
Everything else about it is shit, but the banter between the friends is great. It's rare to see a wuxia MC with actual, real friends who have fun and rib each other instead of constantly sucking the MC's cultivation cock.
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>>157270912
Someone's triggered.
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>>157270910
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>>157270855
The story was about a lot more than idols anon. The idols were just the MC's attempt to increase amenities so that his annexed city wouldn't go into revolt, plus win a cultural victory.
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>>157270910
What, you mean like Oda Nobuna?
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>>157270984
>switched between 3 translators
Why the hell isn't someone picking it up? Fucking Qidian is shit
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>>157259277
Please be real
Transfer Student Storm Bringer is one of my favorite korean manga
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>>157271050
>korean
korean manga aren't all bad. tower of god is pretty good and its pseudo isekai if you think of the tower as another world.
however, i have yet to find a korean novel that i don't drop on the first chapter.
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>>157270910
G.I. Samurai, The Final Countdown, Zipang, Koihime Musou, Oda Nobuna.
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>>157271050
The title sounds like something truly awful I read years ago but I could just be confusing it with something that just sounds equally horrible.
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>>157270992
Not what Im looking for, but thanks
>>157271019
Dude is transported to the past. No other bullshit going on.
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>>157271050
>>157271135
Its just a poor man's angel densetsu
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>>157271112
Korean manga are plagued by the korean's love of NTR.
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>>157271139
>Dude is transported to the past. No other bullshit going on.
That's not isekai, that's time travel.
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>>157270808
I was pretty disappointed that the MC and his mercenary band frontier pacification settlement hopping adventures were covered almost entirely in a montage when there could be at least an entire volume's worth of cool stuff they got up to.
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>>157271179
>Korean manga are plagued by the korean's love of NTR.
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>>157271182
Works the same way.
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>>157269858
Did you start reading A Will Eternal/A Thought Through Eternity at all? It's the Xianxia that Er Gen started after finishing ISSTH, and so far it's pretty much everything good about ISSTH with none of the chaff, although there was a switch in translators so now everyone is waiting for the new translator to catch up.
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>go to royalroadl
>think there might be some good LNs there
>become depressed and suicidal a few minutes later
Jesus fucking christ, i though nip LNs were the bottom of the barrel
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>>157271315
>>go to royalroadl
that was your first mistake, anon.
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>>157270986
Yeah, (You).
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>>157271198
Personally I enjoyed the way it was handled. It gave weight to the whole 'just doing a routine extermination' thing that Will was talking about.
In my opinion the second book is more like a set-up novel , introducing characters, setting up plot points for later and the like.
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>>157271294
People who bash ISSTH aren't familiar with the genre and cultivators making sword hand signs million of kilometers long. I don't get why people get hung up on that though, its explicitly said that strong cultivators can smash apart stars with their hands
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>>157265027
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>>157271343
Its like googling your name with the hedgehog added, only worse
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>>157271315
The ones I've liked so far were Forgotten Conqueror and The Good Student (both are fantasy and not isekai, go figure).
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>>157271315
Nip WNs are already filtered by whether they're interesting enough for a translator to pick up or not.

No doubt if you knew Japanese and browsed Syosetsu bareback you'd feel similar.
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>>157259599
>Start reading this
>Cloudy eyes is an interesting handicap, even if she can just Daredevil it up
>MY CONSCIOUSNESS FLEW
>Half the chapters are just complicated processes of Lilli learning how to control magical power (temp)
>An entire chapter of her trying to catch fluffy tail
>The WN writing is so crappy but I can't stop because it's like one of the few isekai out there that have the MC start from scratch
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>>157271428
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>Welcome to Bluesteel Blasphemer, my first work for Hobby Japan in a while.

>This book is what you might call an “Other-world Chea-rem,” as in “an average guy gets transported to some other world with a cheat that makes him the strongest character around while all the girls who show up instantly fall in love with him and he winds up with a harem.” This is a kind of story that first really came into its own with web novels.

>Now, typically in these stories, convention demands that the main character be the strongest thing in sight. And you need some excuse for that. So the protagonist is incarnated as a hero, or occasionally a villain, or sometimes a leader in the army despite having no physical capabilities. There are lots of variations.

>You might be tempted to classify this work of mine, which I’m writing from my usual undisclosed location, in this “Other-world Chea-rem” genre. Such stories, however, typically feature characters who have no real fighting ability and forge ahead based entirely on an abundance of nerd knowledge. There are even ones where bar cooks or members of a high school cooking club aggravate the people in this other world with their food.

>The whole “strongest” routine might be an innovation, but the enjoyment of this type of story can be traced back to books like G.I. Samurai, although that doesn’t focus as much on individual capabilities. In terms of movies, you could look to things like The Final Countdown, which features F-14 Tomcats shooting down Zero fighter planes.

>In light of all that, I thought, How fun would it be to fight monsters or sword-wielding knights with modern weapons like guns?
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>>157271294
Not yet, but then again I haven't even tried his older stuff. The only reason I even began ISSTH was cause it was updating so damn quick and I had 1200+ chapters to binge. It was fucking boring as hell early on in book 1 but god damn that ending with Patriach Reliance really made me wanna keep going.

>>157271389
ISSTH isn't actually that bad with it's power levels, because it's basic exaggerations. The flowery language still allows you to paint a scene in your head with your imagination, as vague and abstruse as it might be sometimes.

HSSB on the other hand, oh man if I had to draw a manga or make an anime out of it, I wouldn't even remotely know how it'd look like unless I doped up on drugs.
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>>157271482
>No doubt if you knew Japanese and browsed Syosetsu bareback you'd feel similar.
i've browsed syosetsu bareback and by god is it hell
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>>157270233
>thinly veiled recommendation question
I was being serious. But for your efforts:

Got all the way through the long start. Wasn't worth it. Dropped.
Dropped.
Haven't read it.
Dropped.
Haven't read it.

Dropped.
Haven't read it.
Can't remember why I dropped this. I'm not picking it back up.
Dropped.

Dropped.
Dropped.

Dropped.
Reliance and Violet Fate Arcs were good. A few others were so-so. Most were bad. Still reading because sunk cost fallacy.
Dropped.
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>>157271486
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>>157271506
>But here we run into a problem. Guns need gunpowder to be anything more than a bludgeon, and you would expect gunpowder to be awfully difficult to come by in these other worlds. Even the Self-Defense Force unit in G.I. Samurai finds itself unable to keep up supplies; at the end of the movie, they have to abandon their tank, while in the novel, an inability to get fuel forces them to limit the use of their generator.

>So, then, how to have a main character who achieves his position as the strongest by using guns? I mulled over a number of possibilities, and the outcome was Bluesteel Blasphemer. You might notice that the term “blue steel” can also refer to the results of protecting the steel (not stainless steel or wood) parts of a gun from rust through a process known as “bluing.”

>Since I had gone to the trouble of setting up this world, I wanted the heroine to have a gun, too. The orthodox approach to a girl with a gun says you must give her a huge rifle. (This provides a nice contrast between the cuteness of the little girl and the bad-assery of her firepower.) I had been doing that until recently in a certain work of mine, and I decided to give things a twist this time.

>She wears glasses, but she’s a sniper. She’s a sniper, but she uses a pistol. And not just any pistol—she sticks a scope and a bipod on a revolver!

>Yes! That’s it! Sniper girl with glasses and a scope-ready custom revolver!

>I do have a specific reason in mind for having the main character use a lever-action carbine and the heroine a single-action revolver—but forget about that for now. I’m not normally that into guns, so to write this book I went out and bought a bunch of air guns and model guns. That’s right: it’s all research. Not a flimsy excuse to... No... Really...
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>>157271154
>Angel Densetsu
One of the best things i've read in manga

Storm bringer did help with the void after finishing it

So did KKOW
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>>157270774
I actually did a double take when I found out this was written on pixiv, not narou. I didn't even realize pixiv had text fiction.
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>>157271485
Like >>157259684 said, it's very slow moving. She's 2 yo and barely forms two word phrases at current translations.
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>>157271482
I was talking about the popular ones even, god forbid sifting through that pile of shit

>>157271481
>Forgotten Conqueror
is that the one with the cape and other items that are sentient? Its pretty fucking shit considering the MC is 9yrs old?
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>>157265705
at least RtW is a little believable with the MC being a workaholic mechanical engineer with access to a metal 3D printer (kinda) and all his chemical stuff are simple or being developed by "chemist"
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Is Moonlight Sculptor and Isekai?
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>>157271557
>she sticks a scope and a bipod on a revolver

Just fucking kill me.
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>>157271527
Why'd you drop ZTJ and LLS though?
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>>157271154
>angel densetsu
you already got me
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>>157271631
It's more like SAO than anything. It's also formulaic as hell.
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>>157259151
it's basically re:monster, without the dense MC
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>>157271631
>>157271685
Is it the same like Zhan Long/Shura's wrath?
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>>157270505
It's either an invention or a discovery, and I'd lean towards invention.
Innovation is what happens when you rehash existing tools.

It's also not a reasonable thing to expect.
Chemistry is one of the less obvious physical sciences.
The most obvious, classical physics, is barely 400 years old.

China only found gunpowder so early because their folklore said burning a mysterious combination of plants and rocks would let you live forever.
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>>157271631
It's a vrmmo isekai. So technically not, but in practice pretty much.

It's kind of shit. Nice art.
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>>157271748
It has art?
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>>157270910 c >>157264928, >>157265035
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>>157271775
There's a web manga.
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>>157271616
>Is that the one with the cape and other items that are sentient?
Are you talking about the spirits Kaidus has long-standing contracts with?
>Its pretty fucking shit considering the MC is 9yrs old?
I don't know what you mean, considering Kaidus is a relic of a bygone history that he's still trying to piece together.
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>>157270872
>>157270984
>>157271036
Which story?
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>>157271727
Zhan Long is trash tier
at least Moonlight sculptor has the best item description porn
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>>157271654
It's the Half-Life approach to sniping.
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>>157270320
> Invents dynamite

I like all the boobs though.
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>>157271733
>found gunpowder
then it's a discovery u nerd
Innovation is how the discovery was refined into tools of warfare, a retard could make gunpowder by pissing on a volcano
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>>157271527
so basically you don't like chinese novels
what's the point of keep reading more?
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>>157271865
Hey, the refined nitroglycerin was already there.
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Anybody else enjoy reading about a multibillionaire who has to defeat Kirito in a 1v1 by abusing microtransactions?
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>>157271835
>considering Kaidus is a relic of a bygone history that he's still trying to piece together.
He's 9-12 and he starts flying around and destroying top tier mages, its bullshit. At least make him a bit older
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>>157271669
LLS, the MCs bants weren't enough to outweigh how much I value my time.
If my presence here didn't tip you off, I value my time very little. Probably not enough.

ZTJ, I've already said.
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>>157271845
http://www.novelupdates.com/series/transcending-the-nine-heavens/
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>>157271845
TTNH
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>>157271963
Some that you dropped are probably the best the genre has to offer, maybe it just isn't your cup of tea
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>>157271862
Whats the appeal of VRMMO's anyways? Chinks just write how they got this epic item drop and even list combat numbers ad infinitum every 10 levels. Its even worse than watching game streams, now you read about them
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>>157270910
Lest Darkness Fall, by L. Sprague de Camp. Archeologist is transported to the Roman Empire and decides to try and prevent its collapse. Also gives Romans distilled spirits and Arabic numerals for faster accounting. Note: this story was written in the 1930s.
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>>157258345
What is the context to this picture?
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>>157272022
he likes Renegade Immortal
so I'm guessing he just like revenge porn, permanent suffering and nonstop aggression
>>157272093
that's why Zhan Long is garbage tier
if you're gonna read VRMMO, at least read The King's Avatar. It's not VR but it's almost like that anyway.
>>157272116
basically western self-fellatio
he also destroyed Islam in its cradle
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>>157272093
I'm guessing it's the same appeal of game streams then
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>>157272207
>at least read The King's Avatar
Watching the anime, don't like the genre though
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>>157265166
I want there to be an isekai where all the bans and racial progression the protagonist puts through backfires horribly on him, as he realises that since he's an outsider and doesn't really know the full story, he's just given actual barbarians and death cults access to his land and his people.
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>>157259151
>there are people in this thread that like to read these
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Is there literally any isekai where the protagonist has a loving family back on earth and is a respected member of society and tries to return to his world?
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>>157272207
>revenge porn
Nah. I'm in it for page turners (or good cliffs).

It didn't come into the XianXia/WuXia/XuanHuan discussion (for obvious reason),
and I'm not >>157272093, but I am reading The King's Avatar.

First 100 or so chapter notwithstanding, I wouldn't really call it a VRMMO novel though.
It reads like a Sports novel.
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>>157272430
Samurai Jack?
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>>157272417
Like how the millions of Gothic barbarian refugees given asylum in the Roman Empire to escape the Huns then proceeded to sack everything after the Romans tried to get them to sell their children unto slavery for moldy grain?
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>>157272430
Arifureta.
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>>157272430
Zero no Tsukaima

Muv Luv Alternative

Digimon

Oddly enough Arifureta, at least as far as the loving family and wanting to return home goes.
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>>157272579
just fuck off man
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>>157271597
It was on Narou but got removed for plagiarism or something.
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whats wrong with arifureta
it seems that everyone gets triggered by it
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>>157272617
was ZnT ever fully translated
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>>157270233
>Way of choices
I finished that, good ride, 3+ years of suffering for me. It is one of the few Chinese WNs i read from start to finish but at least it is worth it. Although i kinda want a more conclusive ending rather than a "the journey continues" one.
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>>157272762
Do you speak chinese? how did you finish it exactly
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>there's an isekai where a bunch of nips get dropped into another world with powers like beastmaster and clairvoyance
>later on there is an enemy isekai guy
>he's an American with the power to summon American naval ships including fighter jets on Nimitz-class carriers
>everyone has to get ridiculous power upgrades to defeat the power of the United States Navy
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>>157272724
it's great if you're underage
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>>157272417
Do you really need a /pol/ isekai?
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>>157272724
That went from 0 to 100% edgy in the span of a single chapter.
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>>157272823
So 90% of /a/ will love it?
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>>157272785
No, but it was translated into my languages, literally half a day after the chapter being released.
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>>157272724
A lot of people have bad reading comprehension and think it's another revenge story. Another set of people went into expecting the entire story to be like the first dungeon and then got upset when it wasn't. Then you have people that never read it but heard it was shit so they trash on it too.

That said, the story definitely isn't good, but it's in my silly fun to read at times list.
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>>157272651
What did he plagiarise? Everything is so samey nowadays it's hard to tell the difference between follow the leader and actual plagiarism.
I'm sure they removed the problematic parts for final publication though.
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>>157272869
Fully translated? Cause english is still ongoing
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>>157272890
Fully translated. The WN ended like 2 weeks ago. Author's next work is scheduled to be released in August.
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>>157272942
What language?
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>>157272869
Vietnamese bruh?
That's just MTL btw
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>>157272724
It's "good" if you just started reading LN.

Looking back it was pretty damn edgy and shitty, just don't read it too seriously.
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I think the thing that amuses me most about isekai is when people try to insist on our modern day sensibilities should be taking place in them. Or that the MC should be going around trying to right these 'wrongs'.

Just doesn't make sense to me.
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>>157272942
Oh and spoil the ending for me pls
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>>157272966
Its the polite japanese thing to do
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>>157272878
I can't remember exactly why it got removed. I mean it was removed before anyone ever started translating it, I believe.
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>>157272966
The majority of people in the world are morally good.
"Correcting" small wrong is common, however endangering yourself is rare and usually a MC or knight trait in fiction.
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>>157272955
I know, but after like 5 years of reading shit like that, you somehow managed to learn the skill to understand it.

>>157272975
MC went to look for his origin in the world he had been born from, it is a world with magic and stuffs. Fiance soon followed but the dragon girl chased after him first.
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>>157273002
Not talking about the characters in the story, I was actually meaning commenters. I've seen a number of people get really upset when an MC for example doesn't kill someone that was implied to being a rapist or things like that just because. Or gets pissed off when a king acts like an actual king with politicking and stuff because oh my fucking god forbid the MC actually have to do things because of his noble status.

I should probably stop reading comments.
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>By battle harem we literally mean Infinite Stratos fanfiction turned original anime doughnut steel
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>>157272966
>he tries to bring japanese "food" (i.e. bland shit that islander cucks have to eat) to the other world
>he tries to make idol show (in a medieval world)
"""realist"""
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>>157272966
Anon good morals and shit have been around in the far East since Confucius
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>>157273079
I guess? I personally don't see the point of correcting small wrongs just because you can. I mean if I was writing a story, I'd have my MC focus entirely on whatever their goals were, rather than get bogged down in everyone else's problems. The MC is going to get involved in enough stuff just doing that rather than going looking for extra trouble.

I mean if you were transported to a fantasy world and you saw someone get kidnapped, would you actually run to their assistance? Especially if it meant that something you had planned on doing would become more difficult if you did so? Probably not.
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>>157273107
>he tries to bring japanese "food" (i.e. bland shit that islander cucks have to eat) to the other world
The food he introduced already existed in that world though. All he did was send a guy to travel around to the other countries to bring it to his country, to try and mitigate a food shortage. You know how hard it was for European kings to get their subjects to accept the potato as a staple food?

>he tries to make idol show (in a medieval world)
Ancient times had singers and shit too. Freaking Emperor Nero fancied himself a top tier performer. Theodora, wife of Justinian the Great, had been an actress. MC just researched mass broadcasts and got a Great Musician to increase happiness in a conquered and annexed city to stave off revolt and increase productivity. And it was just one of many measures he took.
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>>157273135
It's funny when japanese writers talk about how their peaceful culture gives them a different view of the world. East Asians of the last century would be rolling in their graves.
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>>157273135
Okay? Good morals are not the same thing as modern day sensibilities.
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>>157273250
>personally
Subjectivity. Like I said, majority of people are morally good, so the writer is trying to appeal to them. Doing good things make you feel good, this applies to most people.

>I mean if you were transported to a fantasy world and you saw someone get kidnapped, would you actually run to their assistance? Especially if it meant that something you had planned on doing would become more difficult if you did so? Probably not.
MC trait, most other people in that world wouldn't do that.
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>>157273359
I prefer my MCs to be a bit selfish rather than save everyone hero types. Those are pretty boring. A practical MC that focuses on their own goals is infinitely more preferable than one that gets dragged into other peoples' problems and never actually progresses their own shit.
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Is there any isekai that isn't complete self-comforting wish fulfillment garbage?

Every single one I've seen so far is just "look at this random NEET who has no skill suddenly becomes a god in other world because he conveniently has hidden talents for things only possible here"
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>medieval settings
>suddenly, RPG lvl up and skill system
Into the fucking trash it goes. Anything does this is instant garbage and if you like it you should fucking off yourself.
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>>157273449
i know one where the MC is a complete fucking idiot who gets btfo at every turn and barely manages to "survive" by taking every oportunity he has or by pure dumb luck, it's called re:zero
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>>157273330
Anti slavery is not a modern sensibility. Chinese emperors have been issuing edicts against slavery since the Han dynasty, and slavery was never the major and organized institution in China that it was in the Mediterranean world. The closest the Chinese had was a form of indentured servitude for excess prisoners of war owned by the imperial court (which were phased out slowly after their introduction), as well as forced labor under the Qin dynasty, and from a certain point of view court eunuchs were property of the court and thus sort of slaves. But the Chinese did not generally recognize the right of any man to own human beings as property.
So really it's not imposing modern sensibilities to free slaves, but Far Eastern ancient sensibilities.
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>>157273439
There's tons of both. People like to be relied on and to live up to the wishes of others. Others like success in their dreams and crushing those that stand in their way.

There's no harm in having both.
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>than one that gets dragged into other peoples' problems and never actually progresses their own shit.

>tfw when you're left alone to your own devices and try to survive
>everyone else doesn't give a shit about you or outright hates you
>still have to save their goddamn asses because you're the hero
>you'll be teleported instantly everytime disaster strikes.
>you cannot avoid this
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>>157273439
I actually agree, but you know Japanese writers, writing a good natured (even if he did "evil" things) probably will sell more.
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>>157263631
didn't this shit get cease and desisted?
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>>157273250
If the problem not finding MC then the story would be over quickly. By going after other's problem, the story would be able to develop into something bigger, not use as narrow as MC's goal.

I mean, if MC's goal is to defeat the demon god then by your logic, it is just him going training, getting item and soloing the demon god. You can write about the training for the first few chapters and just say "timeskip", he grows stronger...
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Offical tier list

>Classic tier
- Digimon
- Escaflowne
- El Hazard
- The Twelve Kingdoms
- Now and Then, Here and There
- Zero no Tsukaima
- Muv-Luv Unlimited/Muv-Luv Alternative

>Archetype tier
- Mushoku Tensei
- Kenkyo Kenjitsu
- Overlord
- Shield Hero
- I'm a Spider
- Evil God Average
- Oda Nobuna


>Atypical tier
- Re:Zero
- Grimgar
- The Faraway Paladin
- Konosuba
- Youjo Senki
- Release that Witch
- Dungeon Defense


>Fun garbage tier
- Arifureta
- In Another World With My Smartphone
- Koihime Musou
- How A Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom
- Tsuki ga Michibiku

>Total garbage tier
- Death March
- Re: Monster
- The New Gate
- World Teacher
- Word Master
- Gun Ota
- Anything with "Cheat" in the title
- Anything about Skill Taking
- Anything about Slaves

>Not isekai tier
- Sword Art Online
- Danmachi
- UchiMusume
- Ore ga Heroine
- Infinite Dendrogram
- Pay to Win VRMMO
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>>157273509
What about when the RPG settings are actually completely fake and it's just codifying certain values that the character in question actually has. MC later learns the truth and realizes he really isn't a level 101 knight, he's just a guy with a sword that hasn't died yet.

I don't know anything that really does that. I mean Kumo did to a degree with your level and stats and stuff just being the 'system' assisting you and the strength of your soul.
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>>157273449
Isekai is the mean to escape the reality of the real world. Without being chained by it, every MC would become GOD. Although Grimgar would fit your liking but it is too edgy for me.
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>>157273624
im actually okay with this tier list, good job anon.
add sekai game somewhere there. go read it, it's nice.
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>>157273564
What's the story of Shield Hero anyway?
Is it good? How long is it?
Thinking on getting back reading LNs after stopped reading for months.
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>>157273673
>What's the story of Shield Hero anyway?
Typical "mistreated and misunderstood hero" garbage.
Also "nice guy who treated a slave kindly so when he released her she wanted to stay".
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>>157273585
That depends entirely on the goal though? I mean your example was pretty simple. What if the MC wanted to establish a kingdom or something? Or what about if they wanted to make peace between the various races? What if they wanted to heal some long devastated world? What if they just wanted an easy going life with a wife and family and it's a slice of life story?
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>>157273673
Faggots get sent to world, then proceed to have all interactions, thoughts, discussions, arguments, and character growth invalidated by the revelation they were under the complete control of a hidden puppetmaster. 2/10, read if you're bored and hate yourself.
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>>157273624
>- Digimon
Is that really a Isekai?
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>>157273673
MC got mistreated, he went edgy, he got a slave, he gained some skill, he became stronger, he gained new waifus, he got his revenge, he got his harem...

Basically your typical "mistreated and went edgy" garbage.
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>>157273760
>little kids get transported to a fantasy world and obtain special powers by being able to evolve and train digital monsters.
sounds about right to me.
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>>157273673
Compared to the WN, it's been improved considerably. Pacing's fixed for the most part, things have been changing up starting from vol 3 and up. Vol 6 might feel a bit like filler but vol 7 makes up for that for being one of the more awesome ones and being a bit of a tearjerker at the end.

Vol 8 releases next month, supposedly Naofumi, Raphtalia, Firo and Rishia travel to glass's world to try and recover energy stolen from the spirit turtle by the Vassal book owner from glass's world. This otherworld arc lasts another volume more and then we start the slave village.
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>>157273533
When did I ever mention slaves? I mean actual modern life sensibilities. All the things we take for granted as normal things nowadays that weren't back then. Like girls getting married off for political or just plain land ownership reasons. Or how about child labor? Lack of education is one that comes up a bunch in stories too. There's lots of things about modern life that are basically extremely weird by a medieval or earlier period's standards.
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>>157273853
>>157273673
OH whoops, well you might wanna go read chapters 1 through 8 of the manga to get a feel for the story.
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>>157273673
Well, It starts out as 4 people being isekai'd to wield the 4 legendary weapons: The Sword, Spear, Bow and Shield. They're tasked to defend the world against the "waves of destruction",which are monster incursions that ravage the land. The MC gets the legendary shield, which has great defensive capabilities but has shit for attack. He gets his shit stolen and is framed for rape no more than 3 days after his original summoning and left to wander the streets alone and peniless. he eventually scrounges up enough money to buy a slave, seeing as he has no other choice since his other options arent that great. and so his journey begins.
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nice thread guys, good night
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>>157273624
Add Dog Days, Nectar, and Mixed Bathing to the fun garbage tier.
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good bye isekai thread, i'll miss you <3
i hope we have more talks about our shit taste in the future
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>>157273747
That is still boring.
>Establish a kingdom
Do you want to read like 100+ chapters about MC building stuffs from nothing? Without getting any other people's trouble, his goal is unreachable. If he has no cheat skill, only knowledge, he still need to get fund first. He can't just go up and say : "hey, i'm a stranger, but believe me, i have a way to earn a lot of money" and if he got reincarnated into some rich families, it is gonna just "i point here, you go here". Getting into trouble and other's trouble is a mean to develop MC's characteristic, many failed at this.
>make peace between the various races
Each arc is about MC go to other race's leader and negotiate...boring. Like the example above, you need trust to do that, and how to gain that? Solving other people's problems.
>heal some long devastated world
this depends on what kind of method he would be using. Would he go around touching ground/tree/water to cleanse the pollution and save stuffs? Or he goes to the source of pollution and kill it? Either way, same result.
>easy going life with a wife and family and it's a slice of life story
It is the same thing. Let's say, neighbor got into problem and it causing my wife and daughter losing sleep, what should i do? Go and try to help them make up, gain trust and friendships with them or call the authority and ask them to solve that? Which one would be a better read? ...Fk that, i would just read a story about an agency going around solving couple's problem.
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>>157273624
I'd move SOA to the Total garbage tier
Possibly the Fun garbage tier, if you neglect all the franchise crap.
You also forgot Anything with "Jobless" in the title for Total garbage
Otherwise >>157273672.
Kinda miffed that YAMA isn't in the Atypical tier. So it goes.
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