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Any Kalefags here? I'd really like to beat the shit out of you!
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>>157056765
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WHERE'S THE LEAKS
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Soon.
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Can't wait until Cell comes back and all you Friezafags get blown the fuck out, your tears will inundate the internet.
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>>157056899
What so Cell can get anticlimactically raped by some Saiyan.
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>>157056899
Keep dreaming
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>>157056872
I'd like to know more about episode 92.
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>>157057070
I'd like to know more about the other Universes. Universe 7 can go rt somewhere in a dark corner for all I care.
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>>157057293
>Universe 7 can go rt somewhere in a dark corner for all I care.
Why?
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>>157057341
Because everyone has been written into being incredibly boring, stupid or unlikable.
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Cell may come back to job to Uub down the line but that's it lmaooooo
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>imagine being a Cellfag right now
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>>157057854
who are you quoting?
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Reminder that DBS is here to stay and outselling Wan Piss.
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why the fuck is freeza coming back again this is dumb
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>>157057987
good. I want dragon ball supper to go beyond End of Z
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>>157056765
step on me, Kale!
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>>157058044
BECAUSE HE IS GOKU's BEST FRIEND OF COURSE
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>>157057854

S-SHUT UP!
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>>157057987
If it's selling so damn well can they please put some of that fucking money into the animation team.
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>>157058390
Or hiring a decent writer
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>>157057987
>that estimated loss in 2018
Guess DBS is ending next year.
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Cell ain't never coming back cause bitch didn't have a soul so he didn't go to hell. Cell simply disappeared.
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>>157058564
that's wrong, anon..
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>>157058589
16 disappeared too
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>>157058603
Cell is organic, son, 16 wasn't
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Frieza better at least spit in gokus face or tell him to fuck off when he asks him about the tournament. I mean the guy fucking KILLED him.

If my murderer came to me in Hell with a truce offering I'd tell him suck my alien dick
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>>157058492
This is probably bait, but, you do see how that's higher than 2016 AND 2017, right?
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>>157058627
16 and Cell were artificial, so no soul to be judged by King Yenma. therefore no stay in hell and no reincarnation.
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Reminder r/dbz always has new episode spoilers/summaries up like, all the time. Look for the threads with green text, right at the very top.

http://www.reddit.com/r/dbz
Just ignore the fags on there, somehow, some of them are worse than you guys.
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>>157058797
>reddit
No thanks
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>>157058564

Cell will never come back cause toeis' slave fuckboys from the philippines are too lazy to draw his spots.
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>>157058390

>implying budget is a significant factor in Super's animation quality
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>>157058764
So that's another thing GT fucked up? I vaguely remember Frieza and Cell coming back from hell.
Not that it matters much since I pretend GT doesn't exist, and it's not canon either way.
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>>157059595
>bring him back
>spots are gone
>"Yeah, it turns out those were skin imperfections. Boy I feel stupid in hindsight."
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>>157058390

>They should burn money on better animation even though they already make lots of money with minimum investment
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>>157059657
they came back in Super 17 arc of GT and also in the Fusion Reborn movie that had Gogeta vs Jemima
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>>157059657
Well in GT Gero builded an android (Hellfighter 17) with another android (doctor Muu)
It's not like their version of Hell makes any sense
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>>157057293
91 will briefly go over the teams of each universe probably. The description implies that it looks at more than just U7's "Mightiest Warriors" who are gathering.
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>>157059844
Now that you mention it, I faintly remember a conversation between the two
>look at this android, the result of my research
>wait, you can continue researching in hell?
>why yes, of course!
I thought they're trying to pull my leg or are really taking the piss now. Though I am not sure if it is as I remember, and maybe a dub-only thing.
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is dicasty /ourguy/?
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>>157060368
>dicktracy
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>>157060368
not with that level of face drawing
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>>157060368
>dicktasty
>anyone's /guy/
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>>157060368
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How does it feel knowing Frieza was only chosen over based Cell because of all the gender identity bullshit going on.

Frieza is just a token and probably gonna wreck shit to show trans people are powerful and dependable.
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>>157056765
worst girl
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Reminder that Cell will NEVER return because he's a fucking nightmare to animate

Interviewer:
> Can we expect a Dragon Ball Resurrection ‘C’ movie, since Cell is the next Dragon Ball villain?

Yamamuro:
> (laughs) As an animator, I would not like that, since Cell's complicated design is really hard to draw. When he is standing still, it doesn't matter, but when he is moving, because of all the spots on his body, it takes so long to draw him every time. You have to calculate how he's going to move perfectly, and then you have to check and recheck the result every time. That's so much work!
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>>157056872
Hopefully next week
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>>157056765
>whore appears for 20 secs in an episode
>there are already faggots sucking her balls
you underage faggots are an annoyance
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>>157061038

>inb4Cell gets a transformation that makes him a singular color w/ the green.

Problem solved you lazy gooks
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>>157061038
Whats wrong with Cell animation? He doesn't look that complicated to me,
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>>157061082
That's expected from desperate virgins on 4chan, anon.
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>>157061038
Well when in doubt, overthrow the japanese government and demand a revivial of C movie by funding it
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>>157061298
hear hear
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>>157061139
It's the spots, when Cell moves they have to move every single spot on his body to match the movement. Apparently it's really hard.
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LEAVE KAKAROT TO ME
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GojitaAF is posting those crappy MSPaint comics as his own
Does everyone lurk this place?
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>>157061341
Shouldn't this shit be easier now? What with digital animation? I don't understand how they managed to do it back then and are pussying out now.
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>>157056872
Way to early, try next week
>>157057341
>>Universe 7 can go rt somewhere in a dark corner for all I care.
>Why?
Because it has the worst of the worst there
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>>157061341
they came up with the idea, now they complain it's hard, what's wrong with these fuckers?
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>>157061082
Who hurt you anon?
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>>157061440
Toriyama came up with the idea. not the animators.
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>>157061458
smug pup hurt his feefees
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>>157061463
Blame his editor, he is the one who forced Toriyama to create Cell.
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>>157061463
they accept the job so that they can get paid and now they complain it's hard, what's wrong with these fuckers?
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what's broly's appeal??
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>>157061726
He's aryan Hulk, and he was created the same time as the height of Rob Liefeld's popularity.
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>>157061726
muh muscles, muh maximum power
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>>157061654
Cell's basic concept was still Toriyama's idea

His editor just wanted a villain that looked evil and not like 2 young punks
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>>157061726
BIG MOOOSLES
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>>157061726
Literally powerlevelfag wet dream with a dash of edgemaster. Why do you think so many autists latched onto him.
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>>157061726
He wants revenge because a baby cried, which many fans can relate to
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>>157061726
Can't speak for anyone else but his design is really awesome. I love his moves and how savage he is. He's a big dude that you expect to be slow as fuck but then this man is moving like Ali and headslipping punches.
It also helps that he gets all sorts of fancy powerups in the games and everything. He's probably my favorite DBZ character after Gohan.
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>>157061921
>>157061927
>>157061950
thanks based anons, this makes sense
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>>157061039
>two swords
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>>157061964
Why do they keep putting GTshit into the vidyagames? Are there that many fans clamoring for it?
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>>157062067
Not GT, but the SSJ4 transformation
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>>157057987
I didn't know Yokai Watch was actually popular.
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>>157062067
GT stuff is pretty popular, even if the show was pretty bad. Transformations, designs, characters. The video games allow all of the timelines and stuff to cross over, so there's no reason not to add it.
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does anyone else think broly's name should be pronounced (brah-lee) not (bro-lee). i mean, you don't pronounce broccoli with the 'long o' sound
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Is Dog-man still the president of earth?
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>>157061726
He embodied autistic rage at a time when a large chunk of the fan base was going through puberty

put 2 and 2 together
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>>157062128
tawana brolly dindu nuffin
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Reminder that Broly is would lose to Perfect Cell

> beaten in one punch when a bunch of beaten-up, crippled fighters give their energt to another beaten-up fighter

> beaten up by 2 kamehameha's (and one ghost) from two SS1's

> beaten up by DNA juice

At least Cell toyed with Full-Powered SS's (they weren't FPSS in M8), and required a SS2 to beat him.

Either way, even IF Cell was marginally weaker than Broly, Cell still has his regenerative abilities which would more than make up for that.
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>>157062232
Movie 10 Broly and up would trash Cell, dude.
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>>157062266
Not when he was killed by one SS1 and a SS1 Toddler
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>>157062328
Gohan was SSJ2 in second coming.
And Goku was helping them out as well.
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so is there like a whole planet of Dodorias or what's going on there?
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>>157062381
No, just the one.
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>>157062378
Weak, out of shape Gohan who got owned by Dabura.
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>>157061403

>Shouldn't this shit be easier now? What with digital animation?

No. Unless they decided to go canada flash cartoon tier and tween Cell.
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>>157057987
>YW dropped by 20
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>>157059769
Didn't they also appear during the fight with kid buu? They were all watching the fight from the crystal ball.
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>>157062462
>Weak, out of shape Gohan who got owned by Dabura.

That was pre-Buu Gohan but i am pretty sure the Gohan from Movie 10 is post-Buu (Seeing as Videl looks like she looks that also would help my theory)
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>>157061726
>fixes really shitty plotholes from namek, like why a legend that had motherfucking FRIEZA shitting his pants is something achievable by everyone and their half-saiyan dog who trains a little, and how somehow an entire race that exists for war never had anyone get strong enough to become one
>fun spin on the "chosen one" trope- Broly is the Saiyan Chosen One, except he's evil, because saiyans were evil
>cool visual effect for his ki
>pretty good Japanese voice
>was basically Zaraki Kenpachi before Bleach even existed

Broly's a character that lives on good concept alone. I'm pretty sure most people that like him haven't even properly watched his movie(s), especially not the particularly horrendous dub/localization, or they liked him before seeing it and didn't change their minds after the fact.
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>>157061726
his power is maximum
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>>157062606
I am pretty sure Broly is only evil because he went full retard since he was a newborn
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>>157062378
>Gohan was SSJ2 in second coming.
Gohan was extremely out of shape, as said by Vegeta during Gohan vs Dabura

Also Gohan had no sparks whatsoever. He was SS1.

> And Goku was helping them out as well.
Goku was just a ghost, he was just coaching. Just like the Cell Saga's SS2 Gohan vs Cell beam-struggle
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>>157061726
him...big
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>>157062128
who the fuck says brah-kah-lee?
Its broccoli. brock-o-lee
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>>157062676
Yeah, it couldn't have been the fact that every saiyan was evil except Goku specifically because he was dropped on his goddamn head as a child AND raised by humans. Even despite all that, Goku remains dubiously obsessed with fighting and neglects his family/puts his noticeably more docile half-human son in conflicts on a regular basis.

Violence is firmly rooted within saiyan blood.
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>>157062756
this guy is right
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>There will be an "intermission" episode of the tournament where Yamcha saves Earth but nobody sees it happen so nobody believes him
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>>157062685
>Broccoli claps both Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, Gohan, Piccolo who all were SSJ level or higher like Trunks
>A single weaker or same strenght Gohan was able to fight him for a bit

Nice logic fucktard, kys
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>>157061964
>Can't speak for anyone else but his design is really awesome.
Except when he's bulky
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>>157062685
What? There were times where SSJ2 didn't even have an aura, let alone spikes in the cell saga.
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So I'm out of the loop. Which universe did FemBroly turn out to be from?
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>>157062872
>Spikes
I meant sparks, but you get what I'm saying. His hair is super sharp and he has the pale skin.
Not to mention he's able to hold out a bit against Broly, which would make no sense if he was SSJ1, seeing as how the last encounter between the two went down.
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>>157062809
smugpup
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>>157062904
Watch the show or get out of the threads you fag.
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>>157062961
>actually watching DBS
>not just getting synopses and watching good fights if they happen
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>>157059657
In the anime, didn't Paikon deal with Cell just before Goku got to otherworld or something? I could be remembering things wrong.

>paikon
>canon
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>>157062606
still, when i saw broly, i was like, "oh, hey, another saiyan. big whoop." as far as movie villains go i thought garlic and slug were more interesting.
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>>157063099
I hope you die.
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>>157058390
>putting money on a already winning concept
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>>157062904
U6, just like anyone who wasn't retarded thought she would be from.
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>>157062919
>which would make no sense if he was SSJ1, seeing as how the last encounter between the two went down.
you know being super saiyan doesn't define how strong you are, right?
the stonger you are, the stronger you are as a super saiyan
the more experienced you are at utilizing the super saiyan form the stronger you are as a super saiyan
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Cabba should marry both girls.
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>https://streamable.com/n5yw5
this Vegeta toy
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>>157062756
??? it's not where you accent they syllable. it's how you pronounce the 'o' vowel.
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>>157063174
He did, Pikkon was probably SSj2 tier, since Goku needed SSJ KK to beat him.
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>>157063247
No, Cabba should pick Vados and I should show them the power of a human/saiyan half-breed. I'll take the spiky one.
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>>157063185
slug was just demon king piccolo with piccolo jr's size change power
and even more annoying because the whole movie expects you to forget that piccolo can grow huge
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>>157063174

Pikkon blitzed Cell and took him out before he could go full power like what should have happened before Vegeta went full retard
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>>157063269
you pronounce it the same as in broth and plot
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>>157063229
Well hold on now, that's a bit of a contradiction.
If Gohan's base is allegedly that much weaker than it was in the cell saga, then his super saiyan form should be weaker as well.
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>>157061038
>You have to calculate how he's going to move perfectly, and then you have to check and recheck the result every time
they didnt do this for entire super, why would they start for cell?
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>>157063247
>marry
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>>157063367
because Cell demands perfection
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>>157063321
exactly. i hear a lot of youtube retards pronounce it 'bro' as in throw and grow.
> in b4 "why would you give youtubers any views"
> in b4 "muh japanese pronunciation"
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>>157063367
they're not talking about super they're talking about a movie
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>>157063424
so whats the problem with cell being in super?
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cabba-vegeta
cauli -goku
kale- broly
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>>157061726
he's a big guy
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>tfw no U6 Nappa counterpart who's really calm and strategic but weak
>tfw no U6 Raditz counterpart who's like Goku but turned up to 11, basically Leeroy Jenkins
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>>157063548
4U
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what's up with all these huge ads on /a/ lately
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>>157063546
Personality it's

Cabba-Geetz + Gohan (Vegeta but calmer)
Cauli-Nappa + Goku (Both love to fight, Nappa just means less good and less smart)
Kale-Raditz + Broly (cowardly and shy, but also big and angry)
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>>157063399
this
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>>157062769
So wuz uz saiyan iz tey bee lik uz nuggas?
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>>157063789
Nah, Space Viking Americans.
U6 is more American and U7 is more Viking.
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>>157063344
and it is, ssj gohan in super could hardly fight frieza soldiers or base fiereza, he should be at 4th frieza form level
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>>157063543
Cell is a shitty character and cellfags should all be shot
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>>157063922
This. All hail Lord Frieza.
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>>157062769
I never actually thought about it like that. All the bullshit that Gohan got put through was actually saiyan parenting all along.
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Cell is a cuck.
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>>157062809
>>A single weaker or same strenght Gohan was able to fight him for a bit
It was mostly a one-sided fight in Broly's favor until the triple(double+ghost?) kamehameha. Broly was still stomping Gohan in M10.

It doesn't make sense anyway, but that's Toei for you
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>>157064088
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>>157063922
t. friezafaggots
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>>157064140
>Cellcucks
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>>157064225
>couldn't even kill Goku
how did frieza faggots even recover
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yfw new ultimate Gohan > SSJB Goku
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>>157063789
Not quite. Goku and Vegeta may be crappy fathers, but they are still fathers.
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>>157064281
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So just what does the Daishinkan do and how does it differ from Zeno's attendants?
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>>157064281
>a kid BTFO him
Freeza and Buu humiliated Gohan. Cell in the other hand was on his knees.
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>>157064293
That must be quite the dosage Gohan got for that to happen.
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>>157061139
>He doesn't look that complicated to me, someone who doesn't draw or animate at all
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>>157059769
Only Frieza came back in Fusion Reborn.
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>>157056765
> Her outfit was cute specifically because shes dfc. What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>157061726
He's a monster and it was fun watching him body 5 Z Fighters at once while not taking one ounce of damage. Him tanking Goku's Kamehameha from a foot away and laughing was hype as fuck. His fighting style probably appealed to wrestling fans too and IMO his design is cool as fuck
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>>157064466
Dont forget Piccolo gave him an overdose.
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>>157064293
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>>157056765
Are we done pretending Dragonball Super is good yet?
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>>157062774
Holy fuck I hope this happens

Not even the regular people of Earth witness it, not even Korin or Yajirobe, everyone's like "Who the fuck is that dweeb, he's probably just trying to take credit from Mr. Satan"
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>>157064598
>we
Why don't you speak for yourself, spineless cuck.
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>>157061038
The did it in Z why can't they do it now? Aren't they making a shit load of profit from Super? Or are the Korean sweatshop animators just that bad?
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>>157064598
>we
Kill yourself, my man
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>>157056765

I still can't believe the rumors that Frieza is getting a waifu
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>>157064808
yes anon and it looked incredible in Z
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it was a milestone in animation
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it was art in its purest form
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>>157064598
>pretending
But it's good for the laughs
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>>157064893
too busy with that damn spot
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>>157064864
>>157064893
>>157064923
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>>157064864
>>157064893
>>157064923
So Z had his QUALITY moments too, why do these autists complain so much?
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>>157061726

He's the first sayan created for an ameriburger audience
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>>157064992
But anon, muh Z was perfect
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>>157064992
to shitpost, same reason anyone does anything on 4chan
its a game. the longer you can keep people arguing with you instead of just ignoring you, the better you're doing.
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God DBS apologists are funny.
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>>157064864
>>157064893
>>157064923
Fuck off, at least movies were great
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>>157065148
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>>157065148
Jesus fucking christ, this shit makes me like Super a lot more
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>>157065110
Why didn't Kami just teach Goku to control his Oozaru form as opposed to removing his tail?
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>>157065148
>>157065179
thanks for the new QUALITY shots anon
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>>157065148
This movie had so much quality.
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Has Vegeta created his own version of Kaioken or will he transform to SSB2
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>>157065252
what, and trash the lookout in the process?
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>>157065228
Roshi trained offscreen you autistic powerlevelfag
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>>157065228
Didju rike it baka gaijin?
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>>157065294
super saiyan ultraviolet
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>>157065327
Oops wrong pic
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>>157065299
Hey that's what Mr. Popo is for
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>>157065302
Yup Roshi trained offscreen that's why he's stronger than Gotenks now
It makes sense huh?
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>>157065327

PLEASE GIVE ME MORE DBS EPISODES MR MIYAMOTO!!! HNGHA HGNAH
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>>157065302
Tien never stopped training and fought to save the earth multiple times while Roshi sat at home beating off.
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>>157065294
SSB+KK isn't canon so you can expect a SSB evolution for both Goku and Vegeta
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>>157065373

According to toriyama Roshi is on par with Krillin, so his powerlevel is about 75k
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>>157065228
roshi fucking told you he was studying aerobics to develop new training and techniques, but did you believe him? noooooo
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>>157065302
The same Roshi who refused to help the gang fight off Vegeta and Nappa because he was too weak and would get in the way?
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>>157065373
>he's stronger than Gotenks now
>source my ass
>muh power scaling
Cry more, Z babby.

>>157065396
>while Roshi sat at home beating off
>source my retarded ass
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>>157065458
that was just his excuse.
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>>157064992
Honetly, because it still looks better than the QUALITY from Super to me, and good animation wasn't as hard to come by back then.

I mean shit man, nothing excuses this kinda shit happening so much
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>>157065364
>wrong pic
Nigga, it was Tori the one who said Roshi can get stronger when he want to.
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>>157065458
Roshi said repeatedly in DB that it was time for the younger generation to fight and save the world. Goku did the same thing in the Buu arc. It's fucking retarded but hey.
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>>157065465
>vegeta saga
>cell saga
>buu saga

Where was Roshi, was he too busy training?
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>>157065396

Its your word against canon, anon.

Goku confirmed Roshi has been training in secret. And there are some subtle hints in Dragon Ball that he was always, dare I say it... holding back.
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>>157064992
I've only complained about the animation quality because with the technology we have nowadays it's so much easier to make better animation than it was 20 years ago. That and DBZ had less noticeable QUALITY moments, although the movies and USSJ Trunks vs Cell comes to mind. In fact a lot of Trunks scenes in general.

However when it comes to Super, the writing is absolute horse shit compared to Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z.
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>>157065517
See
>>157065505
It's stupid as shit reasoning but everyone in DB is stupid as shit at one time or another
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>>157065526
>filler episode
>canon
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>>157065458

Goku refused to fight Cell, what's your point ningen?
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>>157065595
How did that stick is manage to stay standing let alone fight Vegeta?
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>>157064992
When shit like Super Shenron finally appearing is just a static image getting bigger on a static background people tend to be upset.
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>>157065587

He did fight Cell though, what am I missing here?
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>>157065595
why keeping the blurry lines when showing vegeta
they took the whole stop time and slowmo and got it to a point where it's impossiblle to take it seriously
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>>157065632

Vegeta's jobber genes got the better of him.

He had to transform to SSB to defeat stickman.
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>>157065653
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>>157057987
>Ignoring Dokkan, Xenoverse and Fusions
Z and GT are still making a lot of money
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>>157065632
really good ki control
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>>157065655

Goku forfeited the battle.

He thought getting raped by Cell would be a valuable experience for Gohan.

Same case with Roshi, he could have killed Raditz and Nappa with a single punch but he realized his pupils wouldn't learn a thing if he did so.
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>>157065595
Damn, no wonder they stick to that easy repeat frame shit.
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>>157065465
>source my ass
Source toei's show.

>Z babby
>implying
Pathetic.
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>>157065720
God, that was horrible.
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>>157065798
like.. zoinks dude. roshi was holding back this whole time?
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>>157065720
HAHAHHAHA
what the fuck is this
I'm cracking up
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Caulifla is MY Dragon Ball girl.

MINE.

MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE
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>>157065798
Where's Goten?
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>>157065874
You can keep her.
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>>157065882
Too busy being irrelevant
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Golden Cold when?
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>>157064992
Cell saga as a whole is full of QUALITY for some reason
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>>157065775

I miss Goku and Kuririn's old friendship.

They used to be on equal terms but kuririn ruinned everything by being a manlet.
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>>157065950
when Cooler shows up.
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>>157065990
spots
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>>157056765
>on episode 61
>see this scene
What did they mean by this?
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>>157065953
>fuck off either your Super gas horrible writing bull shit
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>>157065835
>Source Toei's show
Nowhere has it been implied that Roshi is stronger than Gotenks you dipshit of a cuck.
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>>157065882

Goten is non-canon.
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>>157065953
But he's right, Super has terrible writing. You have to have an intelligence that's easily insulted to think otherwise.
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>>157065537
>the writing is absolute horse shit compared to Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z.
>differentiating the two
Cuckpup is a Z babby, go figure. Why haven't you killed yourself yet you attention-seeking autist
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>>157065812
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>>157066003
They obviously want to fug each other
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>>157065950

King Cold as a character shouldn't even exist.

His entire purpose was jobbing to Trunks to make us realize how cool and mysterious he is. Bullshit.
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>>157062809
Gohan was stronger in M10. In M8 he was weaker than CG Goku while in M10 he had his canon Buu saga level.
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>>157066063
So this is weird to me. So to differ between Base Gohan/Super Saiyan 1 or 2 Gohan, they only now have his bang show up when he goes fully into his Ultimate form?
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Did you buy your Bulma Fierce shirt yet, /a/?
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>>157065983

damn DB battles used to be so cool, what happened?
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>>157065537
Fuck my autocorrect.
Dear God, fuck off with your Super has horrible writing bull shit, no one says it's as good as the original manga, but it has improved a lot and most of the shit you complain about are not even true or stuff just not happening exactly like you hope they would
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>>157066017
Pay more attention to Toei's shitty show, anon.
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>>157065798
>Gohan
>Jobbing faggot
God, I'm dying.
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>>157062809
Gohan was training for Goku's return and the World Tourney when Broly shows up in movie 10.
>>157066091
What do you mean Gohan had his "canon Buu saga" level? Maybe as a Super Saiyan 2 but he didn't have his Ultimate form yet.
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>>157062685

>posts literally SS2 bang Gohan .gif
>H-he was SS1
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>>157066062
>smugpup likes dragonball and dragonball z but dislikes super
good taste
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>>157066061
It's writing isn't stellar but it certainly isn't horseshit, not anymore at least. It still falters up and down but it never dips too low anymore.
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>>157066125
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>>157066170
Every recruitment episode apart from Krillin and maybe Piccolo/Gohan's episode would like to argue otherwise.
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>>157062378
>And Goku was helping them out as well.
Almost all material refers to Ghost Goku in movie 10 just being emotional support, everything credits Gohan as the main source for Broly being killed for good.
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>>157066170
>It's writing isn't stellar but it certainly isn't horseshit, not anymore at least
>It still falters up and down but it never dips too low anymore.
HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>157066209
Only the powerlevel bs is bad, everything else is pretty good.
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>Roshi power level 139
>Not even invited to Kami's lookout
>secret training
>KO's Tien in a blast
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>>157066172
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>>157066142
>using the filler Jelly Vegeta arc as a source
Stop being a fucking retard, anon.
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>>157066243
And how close was he to gero compared to the poachers?
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>>157066165
>Dragon Ball
>Dragon Ball Z
You mean Dragon Ball? Kill yourself.
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>>157066292
>Only the powerlevel bs is bad
Nobody apart from powerlevel autists care, it doesn't stop the rest of the show being abysmal
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>>157066156
I mean his Saiyaman arc level. Even if he was rusty, he was still miles ahead of CG Goku and M8 Gohan was closer in level to Trunks rather than Goku
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>>157066170
I'm sorry anon but the writing is horrible indeed.
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>>157066315

>>157066318
Why is that arc "filler"?

>>157066384
Even a rusty returned to training Gohan in movie 10 though is still a lot stronger then CG era Goku who was getting bodied by Broly.
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>>157066377
>>157066417
I would really like some good examples, I am fully open to agree to your points here.
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>>157066293
Piccolo's deserves better than being the Son family butler.

He's the Big Green Uncle after all
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>>157066318
That filler is part of the anime continuity, it was mentioned in the Black arc. Try again.
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>>157066367

i like this meme
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>>157066465
This
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>>157066367
H O L D I N G B A C K
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Thank you Toei
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>>157066511
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>>157066449
smugpup use your powers of your autistic walls of text please I can't be bothered to explain to a newfag
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>>157066465
>>157066444
It's filler because the anime isn't canon you retards.
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>>157066568
My dad works for Toriyama and he confirms the anime is indeed canon.
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>>157066543
>caring about cuckpup's opinions
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>>157066568
Super is all canon.
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Remeber when Dragon Ball was about martial arts and not shooting laser beams out of your hand?
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>>157066568
>Super anime,
>Not canon
Why do people keep perpetuating this lie?
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>>157066639
Goku learned the kamehameha in like ep 2 of DB
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>>157066639
Nope.
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>>157066606
>>157066621
>>157066641
Manga is the official canon, as shitty as it is sometimes. To deny it is to prove your incompetence.
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I see we're back to anime vs manga shitposting again
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>>157066707
Yeah and at this point the manga is adapting the anime.
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>>157066707
Oh its Toyatarocucks power hour shitposting time again?
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>>157062685
>Gohan was extremely out of shape, as said by Vegeta during Gohan vs Dabura
Goku also said during Gohan vs Dabura that all it'd take his him getting angry to unleash his full power from the cell saga.

Broly beat the shit out of Videl, and
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>>157066707
>manga is the official canon
Zero evidence or proof of this. And on top of that the manga is LITERALLY billed as an advertisement and spin-off of the anime explicitly when Toei markets and promotes the anime.

Funny how that works?
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>>157066707
>official canon
all the licenced merchandise including vidya, draw exclusively from the anime
no point even being canon if it gets ignored anyway
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>>157066786
>>157066787
>muh manga vs muh anime
I'm not taking your autistic bait, I'm just telling you the facts. If you want to whine and cry and try to start some retarded shitposting war about it, that's on you.
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Less than a week away before Toyotaro saves the Zamasu arc
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>>157066621
>>157066707
If anything, the only true canon is Toriyama's plot outlines. The anime and the manga are just different adaptations of those outlines.

Liking the anime or the manga more is just a matter of personal preference.
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>>157066852
>Zero evidence or proof of this.
Hi, welcome to your first Super thread.

>>157066858
Obviously anime is going to be more popular and therefore more marketable than the manga. Pikkon, Broly, and Janemba aren't canon to the original DB manga but they're constantly put into video games and produced as merchandise. I guess the DB anime is the official canon?
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>>157066920
I doubt the arc is going to end next chapter if that's what you're implying.
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>>157066940
The only poster with any sense here
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>>157066868
>facts
>subjective lies
Yeah okay buddy.

>>157066946
>Hi
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>>157066920
I even like the Manga but I don't see how your post could possibly be true. Two ways this could happen, Trunks gets nothing to do, or his power up would be even more BS. How could it be any better than the anime?
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>>157066543
All the characters are really boring.
Like not just boring.
They're really FUCKING boring.
And stupid.
Like SO FUCKING boring that they're really REALLY fucking boring.

Replace the word characters with plot or story, re-read post. There is absolutely 0 tension or consequence. Don't even think to use the Black/Zamasu arc as an example of Super having good writing because it was better than the other arcs, but still terrible and had even more wasted potential.

Also Goku is an unlikable douche who's outright bribing his friends and allies at this his point with false promises of money, wishes, and about to go against their objections and ask Freeza to join the team because fuck you I'm Goku I'm more important than all of you.

It's one thing being a fight autist and a naive manchild, it's another thing to be a manipulative fuckhead who's fucking with the lives of countless people, including his friends and family just to avoid responsibility.
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>>157066946
>I guess the DB anime is the official canon?
nah, just the actual canon.

canonicity is performative in the end
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>>157066946
The super anime is the original, though.
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>>157066940
>If anything, the only true canon is Toriyama's plot outlines.
Doesn't Toriyama work closer with Toyo then Toei? He looks at all his storyboards right?
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>>157066568

Anime's plot is more advanced than the manga, therefore is more canon.
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>>157066946
No only the Revival of F movie is cannon everything is else is just a hallucination from the lack of oxygen they are suffering after Freeza blew up earth.
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>>157067007
>the Black/Zamasu arc as an example of Super having good writing because it was better than the other arcs, but still terrible and had even more wasted potential.
Can you elaborate?
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>>157067028
No, he doesn't. Toyo even says Toriyama gives him rough outlines and then he admits to doing "whatever" he wants to define those story points in his own way.

>>157067065
>cannon
Dumb mouth-breather.
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>>157062114
with kids
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>>157067017
>being this retarded
wew
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How you guys think Toriyama write the plot outlines?

related:
>Future Trunks arc:
>kaioshin goes mad
>evil goku lol who is he
>another goku? no he's actually zamasu
>Zamasu tries to kill gowasu
>whis/goku/beerus find out
>hakai
>trunks cuts zamasu in half
>zeno erases zamasu

>based toriyama earning millions for this

the rest is just toei and toyotaro filling stuff in my opinion
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>>157067028
Yep
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>>157067007
>It's one thing being a fight autist and a naive manchild, it's another thing to be a manipulative fuckhead who's fucking with the lives of countless people, including his friends and family just to avoid responsibility.
Maybe Goku's smarter than we think
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>>157067121
>>evil goku lol who is he
Those dumb theories were the best part back then
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>>157067004
Because Black will survive anon. And wreck havoc in the future on ningen scum
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>>157067202
He isn't an hypocrite, all of those are ningen settlements that polluted the planet, only logical conclusion is to wipe them out.
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>>157067270
Why the fuck would Black survive?
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>>157067202
Well anon, don't you know Earth has too many ningens in there it would take forever if you try to kill them one by one?
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>>157066082
>jobbing to trunks to make use realize how cool... he is
>how cool he is
>cool

Accidental?
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>>157067007
Write boring 2 more time, that would make it true. The stakes have been higher than ever right now, why should one not use the Zamasu arc as an example? It's the 2nd new arc the show has had. Why was it terrible? Could you actually back up your points? Goku being unlikeable is your retarded opinion, he started a tour just because he likes fighting, i tsunade in his nature, it's not his responsibility that Zeno decided to tag the tour with his universe cleanup, Goku wants to tell them the truth but Gohan stopped him, he doesn't want to create a panic that wouldn't lead to anything. They'll learn when they get to the tour, telling them now would just take away time from what little they even have right now.
About to go against their objection and ask Freeza to join? Wtf? We know that after Buu goes into hibernation, Goku thinks about asking Freeza, that's it. We don't know how other react, w e don't know if he even goes through with it, you're complaining about stuff that hasn't even fucking happened yet.
How is he avoiding responsibility? What is he even responsible for? He wanted a tour like he had been since his childhood, even through U6 tour was just winner gets a prize and losers get nothing. He wanted to talk to Zeno about removing the punishment for losing, his actions are the reason why at least 1 universe even gets to survive. He's not fucking with their lives, if they don't fight, they're dead.
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>>157067337
Buu didn't have any problem with killing them all with leaving earth in a perfect state during it.
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>>157067204
>"GUYS GUYS I THINK EVIL GOKU IS BARDOCK FROM TEH PAST"
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>>157067335
He has a time ring. He and Zamasu have a bunch of time rings, and Trunks doesn't have the power to destroy his body
They can escape when Zeno shows up, like they mentioned before
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>>157067378
Well Buu's a Majin and we all know that Majin are superior to Shinjin.
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why the fuck isn't this smug fag banned from 4chan
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>>157067204
>>157067388
Unironically black being Goten would have been great, atleast the little fucktard would have been relevant once
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>>157067391
Escape to where, they can't fucking leave the universe, they can only hop between timelines with the rings.
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>>157067204
"Its Goten"
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>>157067440
Yes they can, they just jump to a new time period where Zeno isn't wiping shit out, they're already planning to go to Goku's timeline and wipe out all ningen after this

Just like Trunks and Goku do.
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>>157067429
>little fucktard
Wow rude
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Threadly reminder that Freezie Pop isn't coming back and it's a bait and switch episode
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>>157067429
I think it would've been cooler and added to Future Trunk's suffering if they had used Future Gohan's body instead of Future Goku's.
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>>157067073
Artificial love story between Future Trunks and Future Mai.

Huge amount of suspension of disbelief required to believe that Black / Zamasu was incompetent enough to eradicate humans (Anime)

Trunks and Mai are protecting a barren universe with nothing in it (Manga)

Zamasu is an emo whiny teenager with a god complex, which would've been fine if it wasn't for the fact that's all he was, and inconsistently flipflopped between being whiny, and being holier than thou. Incredibly weak and underdeveloped motive in general.

Trunks having none of his personality he had back in the Cell saga. None of his prejudice against Artificial Humans and just simply accepts that 18 is now living a nice life. Gets a power up conveniently from raging by being "blamed for everything" and not from the death of his mom or twilight tier girlfriend.

Did not care one bit for the "resistance".

Still no new techniques used, everything is a rehash of something we've seen before.

The idea of "Evil Goku" in general.

Double asspull ending.

I could go on but I've already got a wall of text with things I just wrote out from remembering the arc from the top of my head.
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hi again cuties, how's your thursday been so far? hope it's been fantastic
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>>157066367
don't forget the rest of DBZ
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>>157067559
>The idea of "Evil Goku" in general.
What's wrong with the concept of Evil Goku? Sure the execution was trash (and it wasn't the first time) but there's nothing wrong with the idea itself.
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>>157067158
I wouldn't mind that, well ok I would mind a little, because it's not exactly a main character I'd want to root for in Dragon Ball, but Toei constantly keeps portraying Goku as a forgetful retard as well.
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>>157067618
>17 without training is MUCH STRONGER than SSJ Goku who trained his whole fucking life
>People are somehow surrpised with a bit of (shitty) training he is on par with Goku

Wew
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>>157067559
I agree entirely with a post from Smugpup

Am I a gay faggot now?
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>>157065537
Don't you dare reply to me again you piece of shit, being a tripfag makes whatever you post useless
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>>157067634
I don't like "evil doppelgangers" in general, it just strikes me as a lack of creativity. That's more of a personal opinion, but I'm pretty sure I'm not alone on that one.

>>157067692
Yes, go kill yourself.
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>>157067603
it's been shit and i want to kill myself
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>>157067692
Yes.
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>>157067704
>Yes, go kill yourself.
Fuck

I guess I will
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>>157067618
SSJ1 Goku is wrong. You had one job. Now fix it so I can download the image to my cellphone
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>>157067685
It's bad because Goku has to ascend to godhood and be trained by Angels yet some robocop fucker to achieve the same level without any of that shit which makes what Goku did to attain that level of power worth jackshit.
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leave kale to me
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LEAVE BLACK AND ZAMASU TO ME!!!
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>>157067813
How would you react if Yamcha was knocked out almost immediately in the Tournament but left in the ring and the reason U7 wins is because his unconscious body is the last one left in the ring?
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>>157066568
See my post again. Jelly Vegeta filler is part of the anime CONTINUITY, I didn't said it's canon. Jelly Vegeta vs SS3 Gotenks and Goku vs chinese-vampire Roshi exist in the anime continuity, which isn't canon, but that's not the point.
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>>157067811
Thats the same as someone fighting to survive from his childhood days trained every single day by technically gods even then too (kami and the rest)that ascended past "normal" level of his insanely powerful race and became a legendary warrior got FUCKING OBLITERATED by a literally who DYEL fag who has some metal parts in him.

Actually it sounds even worse. But nobody had a problem with it
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>>157067934
Laugh. I honestly expect it to end that way but with Roshi.
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>>157067407
because a lot of us value his opinion over some whiny faggot like >>157067374 who can't even structure his sentences or form his arguments properly before devolving into a gibbering fit of telling people they're retarded and they need to kill themselves which they then go onto say "it's 4chan we're supposed to be trash"
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>so many newfags in this thread
wew
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>>157067970
I had a problem with it. I don't like the fact that some random Scientist on Earth is able to apparently augment humans to be more powerful than the terror of the universe and a being that had to achieve a legendary prophecy to beat said terror of the universe. At least Cell can justify his bullshit power with "well I absorb things which gives me their strength."
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>>157067407
Because you aren't reporting him enough.
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>>157068062
>different kind of production.

Wow, he literally admits the entire manga is traced from Toriyama's old work, pathetic.
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Manga isn't canon
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>>157067378
But Buu is fucking Buu, he's clearly the better villain
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If Mangas isn't canon
Does that mean that GT is canon?
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>>157068124
Wow, nice memes and salt. Pathetic.
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>>157068033
>valuing the opinion of someone on an anonymous image board

You are retarded - and not the "I was just pretending to be retarded" type, but the "I am literally missing some chromosomes and have extra copies of others".
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>>157068195
Difference being GT had fuck all of Toryiama work in it (oh yes SSJ4, nice) and it didn't have a clear "pupil" like he has now with Super and Toyotaro
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>>157068177
Super Buu returning when?
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>>157068202
>Tracing the insult I used in my original post

Truly the mark of a cuckataro drone, kek.
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>>157068248
Is that a yes?
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>>157068195
Yes
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>>157068253
>cuckataro
Found the underage.
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>>157068267
Its a no
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>>157068304
Sorry my mistake
>Tracetaro
There, perfect.
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>>157068336
so yes
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Dragon Ball Super will end and we probably won't be near the endings of Berserk and Hunter x Hunter

How can we even recover
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>>157068195
If the anime isn't canon
Does that mean that Multiverse is canon!!!!?!?!?oneone?!!!11!!?
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>>157067559
Just because it was Mai, it became artificial? The execution was well done.
They managed to kill most humans, Trunks was still opposing him, not to mention killing a very small number is a large planet would take time. He couldn't even sense ki.
Zamasu was basically supposed to represent a teenage view of thinking, h even thought his position gave him superiority over ningen, and the fact that other gods wouldn't bring them under control made them weak. He kept his superior to ningen mindset until he was forced to see that he really wasn't. He whined when things didn't go his way, but got back under control he calmed down immediately. His motive wasn't underdeveloped, we have been seeing that gods think less of mortals since the buu saga, shin didn't think much of saiyans, Kibito whined about them throughout the arc, elder kai was disappointed that he was freed by a mortal. Zamasu was supposed to be somehow who was actually insanely in his with himself.
Trunks grew up, he got over his hatred in the cell saga, alone. He saw that the present androids weren't evil, he stood with 16 against cell and saw him sacrifice himself to save earth. He saw krillin save 18. He was still surprised by 18 and krillin being together, what wxacrly was he supposed to be? Ask krillin to divorce her? Kill her?
How is that bad writing that you didn't care about the resistance?
How is no new techniques even a complaint? How many previous arcs shoved in new techniques? Trunks used old moves that hadn't been used in forever, Masenko for example. We got father son galic gun, Goku breaking his arms over kamehameha, and Black used load of new moves.
If you already hate the idea that's not the writings fault.
Asspull ending? Trunks using the spirit Sword (new move) was am asspull but asspull don't aways have to be bad. Zeno was not an ass pull at all.
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>>157068377
dude, this guy draw furry stuff, don't even bother trying to argue with him
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>>157068241
Well, what else can you expect from a thread that has people seriously recommending people to read reddit like this guy here: >>157058797
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>>157068377
Nice blogpost faggot, stop wasting time talking to fagpup, it's useless, just like his entire life. at least you don't use reddit spacing
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>>157068253
>he doesn't even get it
>also unironically using "cuck"

I guess you're not even pretending you aren't underage now
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>>157068033
Never told anyone to kill themselves.
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>Smugpup vs the DBS apologist
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>>157068358
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>>157068447
Already fixed it here my man
>>157068342
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It's not like beating Gotenks is an impressive feat right now. He was weaker than Gohan in the RoF retelling. And Trunks and his powerup don't train anymore, Trunks just has hijinks with Mai and Pilaf, and Goten studies
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>>157068473
More like

>Smugpup vs people wanting a normal thread instead

him and manga vs anime cunts can fuck off permanently
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>>157068250
He's actually a better choice than Frieza or Cell, no stamina issues and better regeneration.
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>>157068250
Like 3 or 4 episodes ago
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Do you think Trable will ever show up in Super, or has he been LAUNCH'd?
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>>157068570
>Mai and Pilaf
Why do people always forget about poor Shu? Is he the Pilaf gang's Goten?
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>>157068756
He'll show up in the manga to help Future Trunks with the SSG ritual.
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>>157068756
His role has been replaced by Cabba. He's not coming back.
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>visit vados to get god training
>find this

What do?
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>>157068867
Turn 1620 degress and search for Champa instead
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>>157068867
>visit vados
How? Unless you can breath in space like Frieza or IT/Kai Kai. that should be impossible to find her or Champa
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>>157056789
Cell eternally BTFO.
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>>157056765
Post yfw she and Kale fall in love with Jobhan
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Manga is superior because it has this
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>>157056899
Cell is the weakest DBZ main villain now. Why would they ever want to choose him as a teammate?

Especially when 17 and 18 are on the team.
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>>157068940
You asked Shen Long to teleport you where she is

In that topic, are there any namekians in Universe 6?
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>>157068867
fuck Whis
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>>157069001
Why is Vegeta so mean?
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>>157069034
Very well could be. U6 and U7 have the same planets and species, but they have evolved differently. Saiyans never went evil and lost tails, while earth got destroyed on U6, U7 on the other hand had earth go through loads of stuff but manage to get out while saiyans were evil and barbaric who were then killed. U7 namekians were a highly advanced spacefaring race who then went through a huge drought killing most of them. Who knows what happened to U6 namekians.
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>>157069157
At least he's in character, I prefer it to the boring Piccolo knockoff he's become in the anime
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>>157068608
>w-we just want a normal thread!!!
>smug pup is able to write a better argument and opinion than dbs apologists
>h-he's a furry don't listen to him!!!! report him for his opinions!!
>legible spacing to prevent unreadable shit is now copyright of reddit
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How will universe survival factor into the bonus situation of team U7?
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>>157069263
>he prefers manga vs anime shitposting
>he sucks fagpups dick
>he likes furries
>he loves reddit spacing

Holy shit dude, you are literally the worst poster in this board, kill yourself
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>>157056765
female broly is a rfucking waste, why not female buu man wtf.. Missed opportunity
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>>157069345
They want more saiyans
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>>157069263
I would like for him or someone else to actually counter my points. I'm completely ready to change my mind here
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>>157066335
same distance
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>>157056765
That's so impure and vulgar. I prefer pure Note.
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Holy shit i love dragonball but how the fuck does Roshi get as strong as base Goku?

I can chew Gohan and 17 getting as strong, Gohan always was the powerhouse and 17 was born stronger than Freeza, but Roshi?

Just let Dragonball die already, the Zamasu arc was fine for most part, Vegito should've ended Zamasu and been stronger, but holy shit i just can't grasp this.
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Smugpup?
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>>157066142
Someone add base Goku vs Final Form Freeza.
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>>157069204
fuck off papa vegeta is fun
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>>157069625
Did you missed the part where base Goku defeated Roshi without even breaking a sweat? fucking faggot
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>>157069204
>the boring Piccolo knockoff he's become in the anime
?
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>>157069694
He can be papa Vegeta without being a complete boring stiff. He has no personality in the anime.
>>
I want to smell Piccolo's severed arm
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>>157069718
He just stands around brooding and being completely serious all the time. Vegeta is supposed to have attitude and sass, even as a reformed good guy
Manga Vegeta still has that while still being a family man
Even Funimation notices this and gives DBS Vegeta some altered lines to keep his personality intact
>>
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Is there any character Toei hasn't ruined?
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>>157069712
He used a kamehameha on Roshi. Roshi, as well as everyone else in the vicinity should've been obliterated.

He also exchanged punches.

What the fuck
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>>157069802
>filename
I just realized that's literally a hospital. The same one Goku was in during the saiyan arc. kek
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>>157069906
Yeah, a pretty weak one to be honest because he had to end the fight quickly without killing Roshi
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>>157069632
Sorry I was off doing something else, which post do you want me to argue or spend my time "blogposting" against in detail? I'll be back in an hour.

>>157069895
Bulma, and of the recent episode, Krillin. Although you could technically say he was ruined in Z.
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>>157069779
What did you think of the Vegeta-sama line against Black?
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>>157070075
>I'll be back in an hour so you better wait for me because I am that important

Holy shit kill yourself smugpup
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If Golden Frieza is on par with SSB, what would Golden Frieza 100% Full Power be?
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>>157070125
I preferred his speech in the manga, it was more Vegeta like since he was also cocky during it and had his usual swagger
I liked it but not as much as people overrate it, and then Black shit all over it the next episode by recovering instantly and regaining control of the fight
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>>157070075
>which post do you want me to argue or spend my time "blogposting" against in detail?

These
>>157067374

>>157068377
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>>157070187
Ok, will do, I'll reply when I get the chance to make a longer post.
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>>157070182
>then Black shit all over it the next episode by recovering instantly and regaining control of the fight
This, so much for Black not being able to bring out the potential in Goku's body.
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>>157070260
That speech made much more sense in the manga, where Black actually can't bring out Goku's true power and is losing because of it
In the anime, before this he trashed them multiple times and was stronger than Goku ever was
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>>157070320
Agreed
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>>157067775
hows this make you feel?
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>>157070260
>>157070320

This only proves the anime is more complex and Vegeta is an unreliable narrator.

Just because he said something, doesn't mean its true.
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>>157070320

Huh its almost as if the anime is fucking garbage with zero consistency.
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>>157070404
>This only proves the anime is more complex and Vegeta is an unreliable narrator.
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>>157070404
God the mental gymnastics these Toei shills go through to defend the anime is insane.
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Is Dicasty secretly Toyotaro?
>Both of them trace everything
>Spics love them
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What the hell is the Two-Base Theory?
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>>157070449
>>157070518
>"HURR DURR REAL LIFE PEOPLE NEVER BLUFF AND ALWAYS SAY THE TRUTH"
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>>157070616
Toeishills, everyone.
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>>157070320
Then he asspulls a zenkai that Goku's body shouldn't be getting and beats his ass
afterwards.

Mangacucks just have double standards.
>>
Fagpup is a high schooler, isn't it?
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>>157070682
How is that related to the speech in the slightest? Lmao you're an idiot.
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>>157070682
>Toei shills have shit reading comprehension
Top kek
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Remember when Toei changed the rules for Zenkai?
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>>157070826
That's not Zenkai you dumb fuck
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>>157070746
>Lmao
>>>/co/
>>>/v/
You got to go back.
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>>157070826

That's not zenkai, that's nonningenkai.

Zamazu is a prodigy and the more you sodomize him, the stronger he gets.
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>>157070908
>I have nothing relevant to say

We know
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>>157070741
Yes. He's best ignored.
>>
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>>157070957
I've never filtered anybody before, that thing may be the first.
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>>157070859
What is it then? He specifically said it's a Saiyan body ability
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>>157070826
How is that changing rules?
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>>157070948
Learn how to properly greentext, /v/ermin.
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>>157070917
>Zamazu is a prodigy and the more you sodomize him, the stronger he gets.
Nice headcanon
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>>157070741
He is a furry nigger who wanks and avatarfags an OC donut steel character he made up based on a screenshot of a character who may not even be relevant in the anime.
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>>157070998
Go back and read/watch the Namek arc again.
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>>157070826
Remember when Toriyama was the one who changed the rules?

>Only, Saiyans rapidly increase in strength as they fight against strong opponents, so the longer they fought, the more that gap would shrink, and it might even be possible for them to eventually turn the tables.
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>>157070981
It'll be the best thing you do. 99.9% of the time filtering a tripfag is the best course of action.
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>>157071056
Source? I need this for something.
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>>157071019
>While starting off as only a lower Kai, Zamasu is recognized as a genius among all the Kais. Standing out with his remarkable ki and raw power along with prodigious talent for fighting, he was given a special privilege to be trained as a Supreme Kai. Shin even noted that Zamasu had greater might and abilities than any of the Supreme Kais from each universe throughout history.

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Zamasu

Its your word against Word of God.
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>>157071056
>Remember when Toriyama was the one who changed the rules?
Nope, since it didn't happen in the original manga or in DBS for the regular Goku.
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>>157066003
It's conveying that he is a person who loves/trusts nobody else but himself and coincidentally nobody else understands and loves him other than himself.
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>>157071054

the manga is not canon, last time I checked they were still covering the GT saga.
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>>157071099
>word of god
>wiki
Pick one.
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>>157071136
>, since it didn't happen in the original manga
It was a changed made by the original author, faggot. Haven't you ever heard of a retcon?
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>>157070162
Bait?
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>>157071091
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/battle-gods-animanga-akira-toriyama/

>>157071136
DBS constantly references Toriyama interviews, such as Beerus sealing the elder Kaioshin in the Z-Sword.
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>>157071054
Oh no I remember. Getting back from the brink of death makes them stronger, b ut blacks line isn't that different from the same meaning.
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>>157071099
>the more you sodomize him, the stronger he gets.

>http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Zamasu

Not there
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>>157070918
> the more a Saiyans body gets hit
> zenkai

The explanation wasn't a good one, but he's technically not wrong

Normal hits? No
Severe hits? Yea...

...though the point at which an injury is severe enough to allow a Zenkai was never explained.

This isn't a plot-hole or retcon. They were just taking advantage of a point brought up in DBZ that was never fully explained in detail.
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>>157071168
>or in DBS for the regular Goku.
Pay attention dude.
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>>157070981
If you're using 4chanX, do it like pic related. Also don't forget to configure it to hide replies of hidden posts.
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>>157070580
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>>157071200
>Getting back from the brink of death
>isn't that different than just being hurt a bit
wew lad
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>>157071204
>Saiyan Power[1], known to the fandom as Zenkai (全開; lit. "Full Release" or "Full Throttle"), is a Saiyan genetic trait that allows their combat prowess to continually increase as they fight. This is done by the Saiyan instinctively imprinting on new experiences to lessen the chances of same injury happening again and likewise dramatically increasing their raw might after recovering from injuries.

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Saiyan_Power
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>>157071331
>>157071331
>>157071331
New thread
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>>157071340
>wiki
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>>157071284
Getting hurt a bit? He was getting beaten up by Vegeta and Goku a lot, how is that hurt a bit?
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>>157071371
>it won't work if the injury is self inflicted
Damn, Toei fucked up again.
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>>157071371

We've already established that Vegeta is an unreliable narrator, so he's full of shit.

Its his word against Toriyama's.
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>>157056765
>IGN and other websites dick riding Caulifla
>bitch hasn't done SHIT to justify the amount of praise she's getting
>meanwhile, we already know Kale is going to be a beast
I can't wait for that uppity little cunt to be revealed as the literal yamcha of U6. just a joke character that doesn't do shit but talk big and get bodied by real niggas.

Screencap this because if Caulifla ends up being anything other than a joke character, I'll slap my balls in a microwave door and heat them shits for 10 minutes on defrost.
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>>157071371
I was about to post this, the wounds can't be self inflicted.
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>>157056872
too early bro

next week
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>>157058390
money isn't the issue lol
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>>157071475
Caulifla has a Toriyama design while Kale (apparently) doesn't. There's no way Caulifla will be unimportant.
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>>157069003
Because if they throw him in the Hyperbolic Time chamber he can do in 2 months what frieza would have done in 12.
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>>157064598
it's entertaining, what more can you ask for
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>>157071480
Toriyama contradicted himself.
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>>157064992
Because QUALITY in Super is just the normal artstyle, not cherry picked frames from heavy action sequences.
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>>157066125
the martial arts in the sequence after this is excellent

please post it
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>>157066707
>official canon

who said?
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>>157071764
delet this
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>>157062232
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaMbgpKf5KU
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>>157071764
>>157071480
>>157071371

The worst part is the rule doesn't make sense at all. How would the body know the wound was self inflicted? Why is krillin punching him any different from, I don't know, falling on a knife or something? How does the body know the gloves vegeta is using count as part of him?

It's a stupid rule meant to try and salvage the powercreep mess that zenkai boosts caused. That's why after frieza you pretty much never see anyone eget them, except for villains.
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>>157071099
>wiki
>Word of God

kek
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>>157072003
Well Vegeta's gloves are pretty iconic
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>>157062522
not cannon
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>>157066786
No it isn't you clueless fuck.
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>>157067374
>The stakes have been higher than ever right now, why should one not use the Zamasu arc as an example? It's the 2nd new arc the show has had. Why was it terrible? Could you actually back up your points? Goku being unlikeable is your retarded opinion, he started a tour just because he likes fighting, i tsunade in his nature, it's not his responsibility that Zeno decided to tag the tour with his universe cleanup, Goku wants to tell them the truth but Gohan stopped him, he doesn't want to create a panic that wouldn't lead to anything. They'll learn when they get to the tour, telling them now would just take away time from what little they even have right now.
I already made a large post detailing why the Zamasu arc was terrible, even if it is the best we have had so far. You've argued your point across later though. When it comes to the current arc, most of the episodes we've had so far have been boring or have had flaws in terms of personality and plot that just falls flat on its face - For instance 17's double episodes that just turn him into an apathetic rock, and Tenshinhan and Kame Sennin's episode where most of it was focused and drawn out on his perverted antics, something we didn't need reminding of because it's something we knew or have seen before, there was literally no development other than "Tenshinhan said yes to going to the tournament" after refusing, for a very uninspired reason for both refusing to go and wanting to go.

>About to go against their objection and ask Freeza to join? Wtf? We know that after Buu goes into hibernation, Goku thinks about asking Freeza, that's it. We don't know how other react, w e don't know if he even goes through with it, you're complaining about stuff that hasn't even fucking happened yet.
We know how they react, when I translated the episode preview it outright stated that the others objected to this idea and Goku goes ahead and asks Freeza against their wills.
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>>157074410
>How is he avoiding responsibility? What is he even responsible for? He wanted a tour like he had been since his childhood, even through U6 tour was just winner gets a prize and losers get nothing. He wanted to talk to Zeno about removing the punishment for losing, his actions are the reason why at least 1 universe even gets to survive. He's not fucking with their lives, if they don't fight, they're dead.
Reminding Zeno about the tournament despite advice not to from Whis and Beerus about how unpredictable and destructive Zeno really is.
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>>157068377
>Just because it was Mai, it became artificial? The execution was well done.
No it wasn't, Future Mai had no reason to meet up with or fall in love with Future Trunks. She was completely different to her normal self and could've been literally any other woman who happened to have the generic female resistance leader personality. Not to mention a poorly written love story isn't what I want to watch in a Shonen Battle Manga / Anime. That's the stuff best reserved for Twilight.

>They managed to kill most humans, Trunks was still opposing him, not to mention killing a very small number is a large planet would take time. He couldn't even sense ki.
This felt like an poor excuse in the anime to pad the story out and make up an excuse as to why Trunks survived for so long. The inconsistency and portrayed incompetency of the duo didn't do much to help.

>Zamasu was basically supposed to represent a teenage view of thinking, h even thought his position gave him superiority over ningen, and the fact that other gods wouldn't bring them under control made them weak. He kept his superior to ningen mindset until he was forced to see that he really wasn't. He whined when things didn't go his way, but got back under control he calmed down immediately. His motive wasn't underdeveloped, we have been seeing that gods think less of mortals since the buu saga, shin didn't think much of saiyans, Kibito whined about them throughout the arc, elder kai was disappointed that he was freed by a mortal. Zamasu was supposed to be somehow who was actually insanely in his with himself.
A lot of that is something that fans had to fill in for themselves to make his motive less shallow, what some people would regard as "headcanon". Without people trying to protect this arc by adding the semantics of teenage pscychology, the villain itself remains poorly thought out, and doesn't work well in a series where it just doesn't fit in, nor does the world or atmosphere support it.
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>>157074491
>Trunks grew up, he got over his hatred in the cell saga, alone. He saw that the present androids weren't evil, he stood with 16 against cell and saw him sacrifice himself to save earth. He saw krillin save 18. He was still surprised by 18 and krillin being together, what wxacrly was he supposed to be? Ask krillin to divorce her? Kill her?
Another reason why I hate the writing and charactersizations so far. Growing up apparently becoming a husk of your former self and suddenly being able to let go of everything that made them what they were in the past. This could've been a perfect time for Trunks to show his inability to let go of hatred and had a little spat with 18. with someone else having to break them apart, and Trunks having to accept the fact that he made things better for everyone, including the beings he used to hate, instead of just nodding it off like nothing had happened. Nobody in Super on the "side of good" is even in the slightest antagonistic towards each other anymore, there's simply no interesting chemistry at all.

>How is that bad writing that you didn't care about the resistance?
Because Zamasu / Black could've wiped them all out in an instant instead of making them seem incompetent, and they felt like forced drama that inevitably felt insignificant and irrelevant.

>How is no new techniques even a complaint? How many previous arcs shoved in new techniques? Trunks used old moves that hadn't been used in forever, Masenko for example. We got father son galic gun, Goku breaking his arms over kamehameha, and Black used load of new moves.
How many previous arcs showed new techniques? Zero. Zilch. That's a complaint about Dragon Ball Super in general, not just the arc. It's now just been displays of strength, and mostly brute forcing or bullshitting through certain techniques or gimmicks.
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>>157074534
>If you already hate the idea that's not the writings fault.
If I hate bad plot, story, characters, personalities then yes it is. I have no problem with what characters they have to use, in fact they have a melting pot of imagination at their fingertips and have almost limitless possibilities of what they could come up with. Nope, character designs are uninspired, everyone is a clone character or one trick gimmick with no future in store for them.

>Asspull ending? Trunks using the spirit Sword (new move) was am asspull but asspull don't aways have to be bad. Zeno was not an ass pull at all.
Spirit Bomb where there was no Spirit to be found (apparently the small remaining resistance was enough) -> I have become the Universe Zamasu you all die anyway.
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