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So fujoshi are lesbians in denial?

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So fujoshi are lesbians in denial?
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Every gay person is a straight person in denial, they are wired wrong and they can't admit it
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>>155873268
>>155873442
Everyone is bi
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>>155873442
>is a straight person in denial
Wat.
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Fujoshis usually like both yaoi and yuri.
Most women are bi, but most are more inclined to to enter in a relationship with someone from the opposite gender.
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>>155873268
Pretty sure this is just a very special case, op.
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>>155873442
>Every gay person is a straight person in denial

That's transbians. Straight men who claim they're women, but want to keep their penis and get offended when real lesbians don't want to fuck them.
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>>155873268
Fujoshi mangaka's autobiography?
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>>155873805
>>155873691
>>155873268

Eh, i know a lot of fujoshi that are most definitely into men.
This one is a special case, that she fapped to 2d yaoi but admittedly not into 3d men but much more prefer 3d women.

that's not going into that she hate the idea being one of the the binary gender.
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>>155874231
>This one is a special case
Not sure about that, given stuff like AOB for example, and the feminization of some gay men in Yaoi.

It feels like there is a lot of projecting.
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>>155873268
Most fujoshis are either gay or bi women, and not even in denial.
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>>155874616
I have a straight fujoshi who once got freaked out when her gay fujoshi pal coming on to her. when she told me and another male friend, the other male friend didn't quite get it.
>Her:"She suddenly hold my hand and get very close to me."
>male friend:"whats wrong with it"
>me:"imagine you with a guy and suddenly he hold your hand and coming closer to you."
male friend :"Fuck No!"
>me:"Now you understand her reaction and why she ask us on what to do with her presumably gay friend now."

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There is a lot of guys love girlsongirls or yuri, and those guys are not exclusively gay or bi.
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>>155874871
She didn't know that her friend is either bi or gay. the revelation freak her out and she ask us what to do is quite amusing experience.
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>>155874871
I'm not saying they're all exclusively gay or bi, but tons of them are. Most fujos I knew who id as straight were just young and confused, the older ones are usually open about being into 3d women.
They're most likely bi than gay, though.
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>>155874231
This looks pretty interesting.
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>>155874616
Thats because they havent experienced my magnum donger yet
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Does this mean yuri fans are gay?
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>>155876904
some shit that was licesended and now i can't read the final volumes.
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>>155877262
Boku no Lesbian Experience
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>>155873268
>lesbian
>gets off to yaoi
I don't understand this, and probably never will.
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>>155877705
I feel like old school fujos are mostly straight, but nufujos are mostly bi.
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>>155877649
Same here, it is one of the biggest mysteries to me. Like.. You're not into dicks or men, so instead of looking at content with women, you look at... comics featuring exclusively men doing it up the butt? OK.
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>>155877649
>>155877823
Read the page. It's not the same for everyone, but she explains why she was into it personally.
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>>155877705>>155877649
In my experience, most fujo's i've encountered only date women or end up being transgender. I was really into the cosplay community on youtube a long time ago and everyone that cosplayed guy on guy was almost always two women in a relationship. Not sure why, but it's interesting.
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>>155877740
This make sense and I blame Tumblr, I bet they are "bi" and not actual bi. All my straight fujo friends are mid to late twenties/ early.
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>>155877649
Neither do I, I just decided to accept it and keep enjoying it anyway.
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>>155873713
Like Chris-chan?
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Women usually swing both ways because deep down, all girls alre sexual predators.
That's why we must protect our children from women and form a gay utopia (or dicktopia as I like to call it)
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>>155873713
That just sounds like they're desperate to be honest.
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>>155877975
This. It's easy to be bi-curious if all media you consume includes gay sex.
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Did I accidentaly stumble into Tumblr?
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>>155878099
A big part of /a/ is already tumblr clay.
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>>155874287
Isn't it just a case of "write what you know"? Most women don't understand men very well, hence the feminization.
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>>155873713
>born with penis and XY chromosomes
>attracted to women exclusively
>"identify" as male
>straight cisgender man, ultimate in privilege

>born with penis and XY chromosomes
>attracted to women exclusively
>"identify" as female
>lesbian transgender woman, ultimate in oppression
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>>155873268
Well, not me. I'm a filthy fujo and I love the cock.
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>>155877960
Do you mean fujo as in "is an avid BL consumer, keeps up with news/artists/new series, and frequently reads it" or do you mean "girl who ships guys from anime and barely reads BL or doesn't do it at all"?
Because the latter then to be you average weird anime fans that you see doing cosplay and shit.
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>>155878186
I fucking hate transbians so fucking much. They ruined the only comfy /lgbt/ general barely 6 months in, but it's not like it matters anymore since tumblr took over shortly after.

In the day of the rope transbians will be the first to go.
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>>155878263
In the day of rope all degenerate faggots like you will be exterminated.
You're all just as bad m8.
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>>155877975
Not surprising considering how younger generations are being bombarded with faggot lgbtrowixqyz+ shit everywhere. I would have probably tried sticking shit into my ass way early if I had Tumblr in my childhood.
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>>155877649
Most women are more bi than outright straight or gay. Most women like romance. Put these two factors together and it's pretty obvious how this works.
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>>155878299
>not a tranny
>don't push agenda on others
>don't carry sexual transmission diseases
>just as bad
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>There used to be this pretty cute fujoshi in my class
>Find her facebook
>She went full tumblr
>Is now asexual, wants to be a man, complains about her tits, dresses like a guy and has really short hair. Also claims to hate all men despite wanting to be one
This is not like my chinese cartoons at all
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>>155878353
This isn't a new thing. It's been cool for girls in late high school and college to call themselves bi for quite some time. Then they graduate, find a guy and suddenly were completely straight all along, thus discrediting bisexuals. It's pretty terrible actually.
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>>155878248
I have a friend who are fundashi and bigboobs lover like blue eyes giant boobs.
but goes, "i love yaoi, but nah i'm straight."

Not quite sure on his actual orientation. Can fudanshi be straight?
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>>155878483
There's an anime about it recently.
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>>155878483
>reads female targeted erotica abut men fucking
>straight male
Bruh
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>>155878483
>Can fudanshi be straight?
Not sure, I only ever met one on the Internet and he seemed pretty bi despite saying he's straight.
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>>155878263
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/tumblr/
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>>155878437
>thus discrediting bisexuals
You either go full homo and pierce the heavens with your dick or nothing nigga, no middle ground
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>>155878502
The protag was kind of a closet faggot, though
I could possibly buy him being straight if he only got off to 2D but he also was all over the dudes in his school
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>>155878557
Well, there are people that doesn't give a shit what heaven they pierce their drill to.

I know a guy like that. He's never takes it though, or at least he says he doesn't.
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>>155878367
Yep, you're still a degenerate unless you're keeping it all secret and nobody knows.
All degeneracy leads to worse kinds of degeneracy. If you want to get rid of the problem you'll have to get rid of it completely.
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>>155878678
Well if it makes you feel any better no one in real life knows for sure I'm a fag, but you have to admit that there are worse kinds of degeneracy like transsexualism. You just can't compare deforming your body and being left to be openly mentally ill to taking dick in butt or munching carpet in private.
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I think it needs to be taken with a grain of salt because everyone is different. This woman clearly had a lot of personal issues before she decided to lose her virginity, including an eating disorder and self-harming, and some shit regarding her gender too. When my straight co-workers drink too much they'll occasionally get over emotional and make out with each other. There are a lot of people who read manga, and porn mangaka range from straight married women with children to big gay dudes.

>>155873713
One of my classmates from high school turned into that
>I-It's not because I weigh over 400lbs that no one will date me, it's actually because I'm really a woman!
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>>155878759
Sure you can. Sickos are still sickos and society would be better without you.
All mentality ill people should go.
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>>155877216
This makes sense. Yuri fans are always scrambling to proclaim how straight they are because 'its two girls!!'
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>>155878834
>get emotional and make out with each other
I feel this is cultural. You try do this in non "progressive" places, like in Latin America, and you'll get beat up and branded as a fag for the rest of your life. I'm surprised this is acceptable at all. Does it feel like normal behavior to you personally?
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>>155873268
Nah it's closer to homosexuality as a fetish as opposed to an actual sexual orientation
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>>155878848
Too bad for you homosexuality is not a mental illness while transsexualism is, to the point it shows up in brain scans pretty much like schizophrenia and head traumas.
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>>155874616
Exactly this.
And I'm tired of the view that fujoshi only see gay people as fetishes, when in most cases they're just people they can relate to, since they're gay/bi themselves.
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>>155877216
I'm not gay, but I wish I was a cute lesbian girl.
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>>155879014
I'm from Latin America and I see shit like that all the time. Surely it depends on where you are and the friends you're with, people won't do this just about anywhere, but it happens.
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>>155879036
>Too bad for you homosexuality is not a mental illness
Because it's not PC to call it such these days. It was listed as a mental illness in the DSM i and II but removed in the DSM III.
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>>155879014
>Does it feel like normal behavior to you personally?
My co-workers are girls and honestly it seems like women being drunk and touchy is more acceptable than anything else. I couldn't see guys being able to act the same way without being harassed.
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>>155879196
Because there was never enough scientific evidence to categorize it as a mental illness. Why do you think gender dysphoria is still a mental illness despite the west being literally tumblr? Because despite everything scientific facts can't just be ignored like that.
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>>155879196
And most illnesses were thought to be caused by demonic possession at some point. Citing outdated views is not an argument and you know it.
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>>155879036
It doesn't matter what you believe in or not, it is and you should all go.
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>>155879208
Oh you were talking about women. I'm not surprised then, I know this isn't rare at all. I thought you meant between men.
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>>155879540
So basically we dun know nuffin.
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>>155879617
Yeah, between girls it's totally different. Two female friends of mine used to hold hands, hug each other all the time and even kiss on the mouth and nobody ever batted an eye because "they're the bestest of best friends", I was the only one finding that "it's just gals being pals" shit weird. Turns out one of them is gay and in love with her friend, while the other one is 100% straight.
Women's sexuality is weird, I'm not surprised that so many lesbos are into yaoi.
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>>155879247
>>155879293
My point is what is or isn't a mental illness depends on politics.
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>>155879951
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>>155879816
>they were just being friends
>turns out one of them was gay
Homosexual grooming detected.
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>>155880006
>x is considered a mental illness
>cultural views on x shift
>oh it's not a mental illness after all!
This ain't rocket surgery.
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>>155880019
To be fair the other one has been in love with her friend since forever, she was just concealing her faggotry behind a BFF facade but could easily get away with it because galpals act like that all the time.
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>>155880051
Shouldn't all mental illness stopped being mental illness by now then? Because basically everywhere in the western world it is taught to be inclusive of everyone and everything.

Maybe, just maybe, have you considered that mental illnesses are considered such by scientific communities?
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>>155880161
Give it time. Many of the sexual paraphilias will be next. Probably not Pedophillia because won't someone think of the children. Gender dysphoria will be dropped when we have cheap, reliable organ cloning. That may be ten years or 100.
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>>155874231
Mental illness in action, folks
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>>155879951
Obviously? Mental illness is, by definition, a deviation from normal ("normal" is never objective) behavior that causes problems to the patient or others.
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>>155880310
>rude children are now mentally ill
Really activates my almonds!
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>>155880142
How did that girl even get away with it though? I'm an Asian girl and honestly I've never seen girls past 18 doing that kind of skinship.
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>>155880358
>>rude children are now mentally ill
This but unironically: children are being diagnosed with ADD, Autism, etc and medicated at unprecedented rates, because the behavior is now considered pathological.
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>>155880452
Well if psychiatrists base their reasoning on that definition of mental illness then I'm not surprised by any of that.

Psychiatry is a bad joke.
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>>155880442
>I'm an Asian girl and honestly I've never seen girls past 18 doing that kind of skinship
What? Are you saying my mongolian bidimensional slides lied to me?
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>>155880142
Pretty gross how she's taking advantage of her friend.
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>>155880515
It's how mental illness has worked in every culture, ever. It's not something you can objectively measure.
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>>155880573
If I put my lesbian fetish aside, this is true. If the friend was male he would already have his ass in jail.
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>>155880566
Maybe it's just where I live then. The folks here are pretty religious.
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>>155880142
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>>155880609
Yet. I'm pretty sure with neuroscience breakthroughs and new technology we will get better understanding of the objectively measurable areas of the brain and how they correlate with behavior and other stuff.
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>>155880634
I feel you. I grew up in a highly catholic town and you would see girls slutting it up with the boys but not with other girls. Then I moved to the city and the girls sluttied it up with everyone.
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>>155880671
Possibly. "Is this behavior bad" will always be political, but we could at least get insight on things like physical causes of depression, schizophrenia, etc.
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Fuck off
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>>155880876
>Griffith
>not Donovan
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>>155873268
All girls are lesbians in denial. At least that's what /u/ says.
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Why can't tumblr just leave us alone?
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>>155878099
This. Threads like these are illegal.
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>>155880142
>>155880019
>GayGrooming

So this is what happen to my friend>>155874871.
Good thing she freak out and reach out her other friends for advice. Cause otherwise, knowing her, she'll stay being with her and continually groomed.
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The more I hear about this, and the more I realize that these LGBT "issues" are non-issues. They need proper psychological treatment, not have their delusions catered to.
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>>155880442
It depends on where you live. I live in latin america and girls can be really close and touchy feely. I personally am, although not on the level of kissing and holding hands like couples do.
Also it pretty much only happens between girls who're pretty. While ugly ones might not mind, they're not the type to initiate the contact.
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Do fujos ship people they know in real life?
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>>155881279
>not ugly
>still no girl ever got touchy-feely with you because you were autistic and always playing with the boys
I wish I could slap my elementary school self.
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>>155881461
Not real fujos, only low-powerlevel bandwagoners who only ship guys from the very few anime they've seen.
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>>155881461
There are the girls that ship celebrities together and write weird fanfiction about them that said celebrities usually mock on live television, but those usually aren't fujos.
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>>155879107
>He hasn't watched Ellen Page try to find someone who was actually gay or lesbian in Tokyo
Plenty of gay fetish fujoshi out there anon
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>>155874231
>she
>fapped

lurk more
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>>155881903
Are you implying that women can't have penises? You need to read more doujins.
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>>155881877
>Ellen Page try to find someone who was actually gay or lesbian in Tokyo
Sounds like cringe.
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>>155880939
/u/ are a bunch of men roleplaying with each other.
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>>155878848
>Sure you can. Sickos are still sickos and society would be better without you.
Good luck with that, homosexuality has been happening in nature for the past 2000+ years and more.

Homophobia however isn't, truly a sign of mentally ill (and often massive hypocrisy).
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>>155882392
This is not a really good argument if you want to make homosexuality look good, as you could use it to defend shit like rape.
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>>155882477
>This is not a really good argument if you want to make homosexuality look good, as you could use it to defend shit like rape.
I don't see how it's related, straight sex also happen in nature naturally.
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>>155873268
So is there a pic of her somewhere on the net? I need to know if shes a qt even though she calls herself ugly.
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>>155882523
It is related in the way it is appeal to nature. Just because it's natural it doesn't mean it's good or bad.
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>>155882556
She is ugly. Look in the archive of the last thread, some anons posted her pics.
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>>155882608
>It is related in the way it is appeal to nature. Just because it's natural it doesn't mean it's good or bad.
But it's related whatever it's a mental illness or not. Unless you are suggesting gay penguin are mentally ill and need to see a shrink.

Good and bad are entirely human concent.
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>>155877649
BL is very split between trash where the bottom is essentially a girl (like Nakamurashit) and stuff that can be good where both boys actually act like boys.
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>>155878678
>>155878299
>complaining about degeneracy
>on fucking /a/
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women were a mistake
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>>155882716
Rapists have been considered different levels of mentally ill over the years.
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>>155882862
/pol/ is an infection that's left to fester and spread all over the place
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>>155883033
>Rapists have been considered different levels of mentally ill over the years.
All of them? Some rapists are really just dicks.
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>>155873268
The appeal is that it's romance, which women love, but in a way that they're not involved themselves, a 3rd person view so to speak.
Also they like men so two men is even better.
The conclusion is that they're most likely heterosexual.
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>>155883388
you could say the same for gay shit.
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>>155883033
Moving the goal post like a true /pol/ak.
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>>155883808
how do you figure? that was my first post on the subject as well.
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>>155883808
>Moving the goal post like a true /pol/ak.
How am I wrong?
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People can shitpost all they want but I believe this is the best and most important manga to come out of 2016.
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>>155884865
people get their dicks too hard over memoir
fiction has plenty of intrigue too
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>>155878431
Give her the dick and after cuddle. Chicks dig someone hearing them bitch about their problems. Also complement her body.
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>>155884865
You can fuck off now, Tumblr
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>>155873268
What a garbage thread.
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>>155882392
Homosexuality was banned multiple times throughout the Roman Empire. Mainly because it was a way to embrass rich families, but a ton of cultures had problems with it.

The whole being gay in xxx BC is propaganda the same way the Galileo trial is. Galileo was a punk assbitch who guessed the right answer and couldn't provide his work when questioned.
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>>155885519
Are you retarded? We were talking about animals.
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>>155873268
Is the manga finish or there is another chapter?
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Mods please delete this thread.

>>155885716
Aside from the translated chapters, there's a bonus chapter and a sequel.
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>>155880515

>>155880310 and >>155880452 is right you know
>a deviation from normal ("normal" is never objective) behavior that causes problems to the patient
This is literally the main criterion used to classify a disease, mental or not. Do you think there is a clear-cut between physiological and pathological processes? In a lot of cases there is a spectrum, and only when the symptoms somehow start affecting the patient's quality of life we can talk about illnesses.
Admittedly defining a disease is harder in psychiatry than in other fields, but the principles are the same.
e.g. many people have obsessive-compulsive tendencies, but only those at the extreme end of the spectrum are diagnosed with OCD.
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>>155885932
>Mods please delete this thread.
Why? Apart from /pol/ shit it is an interesting discussion.
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>>155886331
>fujo sexuality and blogshit
Sure is /a/ in here
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>>155886403
Well, OP is a manga and fujoshi are part of the anime and manga phenomenon, there could be an interesting discussion on how this affect yaoi they write.
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>>155873268
I'm into fujoshit and het, but yuri is not hot at all.
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>>155886461
Nobody is talking about the manga in the OP and I doubt anyone here knows japanese fujoshi who are the ones who actually affect the market
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>>155879014
>like in Latin America
What country are you from? In mine fags and dykes are fucking everywhere.
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>>155879816
>it's just gals being pals
Yeah no. This has somehow become an accepted opinion, but I think it's bullshit. The things are two: you are either attracted to people of the same sex or you're not. The degree of attraction may vary, but the main point still stands.
It's still possible to experiment with other girls even though you're not attracted to them of course, but if you are, then you're either bisexual or a lesbian. And if you're straight, after the first time, or few times, why would you keep it up?
I think this whole concept stems from bisexuals/lesbians who can't come to terms with their sexual attraction, so they came up with the "even though I kiss, grope, give head to my girl friend and whatnot all the time I'm still straight, I swear", which is laughable really.

tl;dr girls who like girls are not straight, period (and there's nothing wrong with that)
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>>155873268
I don't understand why people are so surprised. If straight girls can enjoy yuri then it's just natural that lesbians can enjoy BL.
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Why are people trying to argue this seriously about homosexuality on an anime board?
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>>155886807
Well, I'm gay and I enjoy Yuri, but one thing is enjoying it (Generally straight dudes are the only one that have problem with these stuff, based of my experience), one thing is making doujin and porn about it.
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>>155886909
>Why are people trying to argue this seriously about homosexuality on an anime board?
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>>155886909
Because anime turned us all gay.
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>>155886919
What's wrong with drawing porn?
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>>155886964
Me unironically on the right
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>>155886964
There were loads of people like right in the 20s, 30s and 40s

Ed Wood said that he was more afraid of getting wounded during Iwo Jima than getting killed because medics would discover that he wore a bra and panties under his uniform during the assault
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>>155886964

A lot of Asian crossdressers look more feminine than women in the West. Sad, but true.
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>>155873442
>sexuality is wired
Crock of shit.

The influence of some subliminal, airborne biochemical markers on who a person becomes is insignificant compared to the staggeringly complex human socialization process.
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>>155877649
I've jerked off to yuri and I'm mostly gay.
A lot of yuri feels really pure in a way that isn't exactly sexual. It's like instead of jerking off to women, you're jerking off to suppressed compassion finally bubbling up.
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>>155889246
>I've jerked off to yuri and I'm mostly gay.
What.
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>>155889014
t. blank slate zealot
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>>155881461
I shipped my brother with black slut that he occasionally banged, but basically everybody in the family was doing it and they became a couple so I don't think that's too cringy.
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Alpa/Omega/Beta are lesbians in denial for sure.

Normal fujo aren't.
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>>155882186
Polls have consistently shown that it is about 50% both ways.
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>>155873740
She was so close to wizardry, yet she gave it all up for. Why did she do that? What for?
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>>155884865
Fuck off.
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>>155889640
And she became happier for it

Are you upset that the message isn't what you want?
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>>155889569
What's Delta's sexuality?
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>>155889721
I'm just wondering why she waited so long if she didn't want to become a wizard.
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>>155889818
Because she was too socially inept
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>>155889302
You can empathize with the feelings of attraction love and affection and you get into what one of the characters are feeling. When I actually think about whether I'd want to fuck one the chicks myself I don't, but I can self insert to the extent that I can feel it.
It's kind of like jerking off to music.
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>>155889697
>>155884936
>>155885160
Didn't /a/ love this before the 4th chapter came out? What changed?
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>>155889897
I didn't say it was bad, it's just good.
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>>155889844
But you don't need social skills to lose your virginity as a girl.
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>>155890088
but you do need to go outside
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>>155890122
That sounds tough.
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>>155890088
You do if you want to lose it with another girl
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>>155878299
People who say degenerate outside of /pol/ should be banned
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>>155877216
It's entirely likely that I am a lesbian trapped in a man's body
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>>155889640
How wasteful.
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>Manga that is literally word for word the same shit you find all over tumblr

>/a/ praises it

Oh god /a/ will be the next /co/.
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>>155890555
If you read the comments you can clearly see that the ones praising it are normalfags/gays, not your average /a/non.
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>>155890555
>tumblr did similar stuff so it can't possibly be good
It doesn't work that way.
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>>155890620
Pic related.
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>>155890620
But what if this is the new average?
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>>155882392
There are no species in the wild that willingly engage in exclusive homosexual behavior. Only humans do this. If you want to bring nature into this, you're the ones being unnatural.
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>>155890673
Read the thread. It's mostly gay people arguing about sexuality and blogging.
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>>155890761
And how did you come to the conclusion they're not /a/ residents?
>inb4 a real /a/non would never blog
True Scotsman fallacy.
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>>155890815
Why would you come to an anime image board to blog and talk about sexuality? Most of the posts aren't about the manga.
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>>155890555
Except it isn't. Did you even read it? The author doesn't brand herself as anything just because it's a sort of political movement. She explores herself, gets professional help, and comes to the conclusion on why and how she got fucked up.
Tumblrshits call themselves lesbian trans non-binary attack helicopters because they think it's cool and unique. They take pride on this bullshit unlike the author. She just wanted to fix her life.
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>>155873442
Nah, you are just a huge faggot.
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>>155890747
>There are no species in the wild that willingly engage in exclusive homosexual behavior.
This is completely and patently false.

>you're the ones being unnatural.
Human give no fuck about natural or unnatural anyway. You think nature would want you to fap to anime girls?
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>>155890620
>gays
>Not average /a/nons
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>>155890874
>She just wanted to fix her life.
She still lesbian.
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>>155891108
Traps aren't gay, man. And just because some anons act like they suck dicks for a living, doesn't mean like they actually do.
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>>155891020
It's not. No animals in the wild choose to only have partners of one gender for their whole lives. All cases of animal homosexuality are the result of momentary confusion, uncontrollable impulse, or outright lack of the opposite gender.
I don't give a fuck about nature either, they brought it up.
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>>155890861
Because controversial topics attract blogging, even more so when people start baiting, like the first poster.
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>>155891197
>All cases of animal homosexuality are the result of momentary confusion, uncontrollable impulse, or outright lack of the opposite gender.
So all animals are bi?
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>>155891163
>traps aren't gay
Anon, be honest with yourself.
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>>155891197
>I don't give a fuck about nature either, they brought it up.
Because something that happens in nature cannot be called unnatural by definition, even if you want to make excuses.


>o animals in the wild choose to only have partners of one gender for their whole lives
Few animals choose to only have one partner, except very few rare species.
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>>155891285
Alright, they are a tiny bit gay.
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>>155891285
Gayanon here, I can confirm they aren't. They are a straight man fetish first and foremost.
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>>155891295
Okay I said I didn't care about using nature as an argument. I'm only doing it because they did it first, to show them that it isn't a valid point.
And you won't see any of those species pick a same-sex partner.

What I wanted to show was that you can't base any argument on this. Animals and people are too different, so if you try to do it, you're going to fail.
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>>155891285
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>>155890874
She also has the perspective of someone who's looking back on everything she went through and having a bit of self-deprecating fun in counting all of it. There's a lot of cute and funny bits in the manga. I'm assuming most tumblr blogshitters are in a phase where their problems are the biggest issue in the world which makes their rants seem self-important and obnoxious. The mangaka on the other hand could laugh at her past self so her thoughts are a lot easier to read.
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>>155891295
>Few animals choose to only have one partner
Eh, on this note I wonder how some people can sperg about homosexuality, which occurs spontaneously, calling it unnatural, and at the same time praise and advocate marriage, which is blatantly artificial.
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>>155891485
The thing to consider is that most Tumblr posters are teenagers and early 20 somethings. They aren't done with that phase yet.
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>>155891322
What do you make of drag, then?
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>>155891502
Most things that human do are artificial and natural, religion is an entirely human concept that doesn't exist in nature for example.

Humanity never gave up a fuck about nature, most things we do are blatantly unhealthy and self-destructive to a dangerous degree.

People in general lack of self-aware, which it's why lesbian is the most searched therm in porn.
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>>155891428
>And you won't see any of those species pick a same-sex partner.
So all those reports about animal practicing
same-sex are false?
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>>155873268
Yuri is disgusting.
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>>155873268
What about those straight women who like yuri then?
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>>155891428
>Okay I said I didn't care about using nature as an argument. I'm only doing it because they did it first, to show them that it isn't a valid point.
I don't get you are trying to argue.
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>>155891699
In monogamous species in the wild? It's more likely to be false than true.
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>>155891789
>In monogamous species in the wild? It's more likely to be false than true.
There are very monogamous species. In fact, monogamy and faithful is actually an entirely made human concept, just like marriage. Animals give no fuck and just go with instinct.
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>>155891750
>What about those straight women who like yuri then?
Women, gay men and lesbians women generally are the one that have no problem with any kind of love, based on what I've seen. Just because you are not attracted to it, doesn't mean you can't find it sweet or well written.

I wonder how straight dudes feel about stuff like IBO or Yuri on Ice.
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>>155891898
>I wonder how straight dudes feel about stuff like IBO or Yuri on Ice.
I think it's garbage.
But I do think yuri is pretty good, specially /ll/.
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>>155891645
>religion is an entirely human concept that doesn't exist in nature
There is evidence that even the first humans used to performe religious-like rituals, and all people in general have a tendency to believe in the supernatural. Whether this tendency is just a byproduct of our complex cognitive functions or was somehow an evolutionary advantage is not clear though.
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>>155891841
Okay that has nothing to do with what I was saying.
How many times do I have to say that I'm not trying to appeal to nature?
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>>155891974
Providing a sense if community across cultures and/or providing a cohesive culture is pretty clearly an advantage.
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>>155891974
Those first humans were not that different from us, so no wonder. Neurology also shows that evoking religious/supernatural experiences is very easy.
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>>155891898
I liked Yuri on Ice.
Truth be told I enjoy both yuri and yaoi more than straight romance nowadays.
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>>155873268
The biggest question is: why are fujoshis into badly drawn unrealistically large hands?
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>>155891898
What if it is purely lewd? I recall reading about straight women being turned on by lesbian porn. I don't understand how that works.
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>>155891750
I just like all sorts of romance as long as it's good and interesting.
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I don't mind gay people, but I hate faggots.
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Straight. I love het romance, don't hate or love yaoi, but for some reason detest yuri.

If I were to guess why I'd say two things -- Yuri constantly ruining hetero romance stories, and yuri fans. "Lesbian shows up and gets antagonistic towards male MC over female MC" is a trope that happens so fucking often it's frustrating. I have read many, many, MANY manga that have this trope, but not ONE with it reversed, with a gay male trying to steal away the male MC. It's a tired as shit trope, does nothing to develop any of the characters aside from maybe the lesbian (who really had little place in the story in the first place), and doesn't move the plot forward at all.

Yuri fans are self explanatory. I rarely see yaoi fans outside of yaoi/fujobait shows, yet yuri fans are fucking rabid any time two girls come onto the screen together. I've been keeping up with Mosou Telepathy for example and the comment section on Batoto literally had to be shut down because yuri fans were crying over the male MC and the girls not getting together.

You might call me bigoted or whatever. Maybe I am. I have a gay aunt and go jet skiing with her and her partner all the time.

But I hate yuri. I always will.
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>>155892516
I don't mind gay people, but I hate militant lgbt/feminist retarded liberals.
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>>155892516
>tfw reading the same posts 7 years later.
yep.
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>>155892625
>hates yuri because of a trope in het manga
Am I missing something?
Het is objectively the worst. The only good het I've seen is Kuzu no Honkai, the works of Ninomiya Hikaru, and a few porn mangas.
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>>155892824
I can tell just from your tastes you're a complete fucking faggot.
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>>155892868
>I can tell just from your tastes you're a complete fucking faggot.
I'm occasionally attracted to women, but good guess.
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>>155892824
>Kuzu no Honkai
>good het
Do you not read het at all? How can you say that's good?
What the hell man.
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>>155892625
>yuri fans are fucking rabid
Maybe because yuri romance has an actual conclusion once in a blue moon? What's worse, the shitty "just kidding we're not actually gay" shows no signs of dying.
Only manga that focus exclusively on yuri are safe from this madness.
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>>155893111
*the shitty "just kidding we're not actually gay" trope
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>>155893111
Just because your fetish is shit doesn't mean you have to smear it all over het fans too.
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>>155892625
I justbhate yuri because of the people here that make everything yuri. I have to think it is similar to the polarization that occurs if you aren't into yaoi but use tumblr.
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>>155893171
Blame it on the author baiting yuri fans then.
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>>155893204
Yuri bait is successful because yuri fans are so rabid, not the other way around.
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>>155893248
Can't you see it's a snake biting its head?
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>>155874231
That's one hell of a bizarre hangup
>what do you mean I "AM" something!?
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>>155893301
It might be a vicious cycle but you have the power to break it by not immediately buying anybwork that may have girls loving other girls. Several works I follow just have a dedicated base of yurifags that shitpost constantly about their pairing from the manga, and the manga isn't even fucking yuri bait.
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>>155893099
>Do you not read het at all?
I stopped after being unable to find anything that wasn't dogshit. Maybe there's a vast treasure trove of good het out there, but most of what I've seen praised (kare kano/ toradora) is frighteningly soulless.
>How can you say that's good?
It gets the atmosphere of teenage angst down perfectly and understands how emphasize the emotions of love of mutual despair well. The story (so far, I've only watched 5 episodes) hasn't collapsed and has been sufficient, although admittedly lackluster. I can't imagine it being bad unless it completely crashes and burns by the end.
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>>155873713
>transbians
I wonder when people are going to stop inventing new shit terminology to define themselves and feel unique.
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>>155893536
It's shitty melodramatic angst garbage. If you think that's actually good and enjoyable, then no wonder you have trouble finding series that suit your shit taste.
I swear people who get off to suffering are the worst.
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>>155891737
I always wondered what could possibly made a human soul this twisted.
I still don't have an answer.
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>>155892625
>fujos don't go outside yaoi/fujobait shows
Do you not follow any shouen tat all?
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>>155893698
Being that I'm focusing on romance? No. Shounen are fucking awful when it comes to romance so if I'm on the topic of romance I'm going to exclude that shit pile.
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>>155893750
Well you should look up the rotary brothers some time.
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I wish there were normal shounen or SoL anime with the MC just coincidentally being gay or bi. None of that rapey BL or seme/uke bullshit.
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>>155879014
>You try do this in non "progressive" places, like in Latin America
Fuck you, LA is becoming more and more shit with this tumblr garbage, it's still not as bad though.
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>>155873268
Nothing more cancerous than >>>/lgbt/ and >>>/soc/ leaking out of their containment boards onto /a/.
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>>155893536
The problem with het is that more often than not it's not writing as a love story, but as self-insert shit.

Which it's way fujo fluctuate side-pairing or gay pairing more, since they feel more genuine.
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>>155893665
>melodramatic angst
sure.
>shitty garbage
>I can't enjoy things that actually make me feel any emotions
>then no wonder you have trouble finding series that suit your shit taste.
I don't. I find things that suit my taste very easily. I can't find many things in het, because het is mostly shit.
>I swear people who get off to suffering are the worst.
Angst is a completely different feeling than most kinds of 'suffering' shows. I didn't like Madoka because it felt bland and soulless. I like plenty of fluffy works like Yuyushiki.
>being an un-empathetic faggot that needs every protagonist to be variations of normalfags or otakus
I bet you'd cry to emergence.
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>>155880161
>Shouldn't all mental illness stopped being mental illness by now then? Because basically everywhere in the western world it is taught to be inclusive of everyone and everything
yes. it's literally just "do we give them dope for this?"
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>>155888207
>A lot of Asian crossdressers look more feminine than women in the West. Sad, but true.

Unfortunately, being twinky doesn't do much for the non-crossdressing Asian males, although supposedly they're popular among gay men the same way Asian women are popular among straight men.
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>>155893806
What for? So you can see him get a boyfriend and watch the series turn into BL, or watch him never get one to avoid BL tropes, making it irrelevant that he was gay?
There's a reason why fags are only relevant in BL. We're way past the rape BL trope anyway, and seme/uke positions are unavoidable and exist in every type of romance. It doesn't make the series inherently bad.
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>>155894115
>What for?

To see a manly couple manlyly kicking ass together.
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>>155894152
There's some of that in the bara community, bros with benefits is rare in real life and in fiction.
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>>155894152
So a story that makes the fact that he was gay irrelevant. Okay.
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>>155878263
Those sound like dickheads

>Hey I want to "identify" as a female but I still want to stick my dick in a pussy hehe XD
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>>155882822
This isn't His Favorite. I've read the author's other works but I don't remember the name of this one.
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>>155878263
>>155894327
To be honest it's not about sticking a dick anyone, the thought actually makes me feel bad and I'd rather have a vagina. I just prefer cuddling up to another girl's body
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>>155892625
It sounds like the reason you hate Yuri isn't because of Yuri but because of the way the Anime / Manga industry tends to portray them.

I agree though it's fucking stupid. Most of the time it's 'just kidding we're not actually gay' sorta thing and it gets annoying when it occurs every time. A lot of that is simply because the prevailing cultural attitude around it still is that being gay is both just a phase you go through and something that only really occurs with women before they settle down.
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>>155894497
Kill yourself fag, and I non-ironically tell you this, because no cis female will ever want to get close to you ever so it's better if you put yourself off from your suffering.
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>>155896931
Nice job bumping the thread to tell me that, nerd
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>>155897305
My desire to insult transbians surpasses board culture.

Also I think the only place I keep using sage is in /jp/, I have not saged here since it became invisible.
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Can't we all just accept and respect each other?
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>>155897464
I did before /lgbt/, now I just can't. Sorry.
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>>155897608
>browsing /lgbt/

You did this to yourself
That place is a mess

If you're gay, lesbian, transgender, whichever, if value your sense of self, stay away
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>>155897464
Life doesn't work like that.
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What mango is this? I read it before but forgot the name.

I have the same exact fears as she does and would like some peace of mind and closure in my life.
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>>155897723
Is it normal for LGB to hate T or is that just obligatory reactionary 4chan behavior?
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>>155897464
Viewpoints can be diametrically opposed.
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>>155873442
holy shit
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>>155897723
I don't go anymore but the damage is done. That place is a cesspool of transbians and bisluts immersed in their delusions of how the world works according to them.
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>>155889732
I think he's talking about pic shit, I think.
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>>155897910
it happens but is less than common, outside of 4chan I imagine its nonexistent
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>>155898296
This is worse than furshit. I'm glad I've yet to see it become mainstream.
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>>155897910
Yes, there is also a branch of feminists called TERFs that hate trannies.
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>>155898364
You know one of the things that anger me the most is that trannies think you're automatically a TERF if you hate them, as if hating trannies was the only characteristic of TERFs, or as if TERFs were the only group of people that hate trannies. It's their favorite name-calling, often used as ad hominem.
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>>155898349
I have bad news for you, anon...it is mainstream. Very.
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>>155898484
Really? Well, alright. I guess there are mainstream things that still don't touch certain boards in here. I guess /d/ and /y/ are familiar with it though.
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>TERFS
>transbians
>fujo lesbians


What the fuck? Is this what /lgbt/ is like? All these subgroups trying to show each other down

Why am I in this thread? I just scrolled through the entirety in dumb horror.
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>>155898296
>women have dicks too
I thought this ABO thing was made in male only worlds, how come I never see this shit with women impregnating other women?
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>>155897910
>Is it normal for LGB to hate T
Depends
You get two kinds off of 4chan in my experience

LGB who try to promote themselves as "normal" and thus distance themselves from anything "weird" associated with it and thus denounce T and probably say things like "I'm gay but I hate faggots"
This is the most common group that will hate Transgender off 4chan

LGB who generally are supportive of T due to being in roughly the same social group or at least they often are in the public's eye


I think the second one is more common. There's a lot of problems with /lgbt/ that make LGB hate transgender more than usual, but mainly it being /soc/ but with gay filled with transgenders who haven't transitioned with all the social anxiety issues that plague the rest of 4chan plus almost everyone there being an ERPing faggot though I haven't browsed in a long time
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>>155898587
/a/ really needs more mods.

Attentionwhoring tumblrtards just can't seem to fuck off and stay in their containment boards.
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>>155898587
>What the fuck? Is this what /lgbt/ is like? All these subgroups trying to show each other down

Yes, and they continue to invent subgroups at an increasing rate.
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>>155898364
I can't imagine what those letters stand for, but I'm a little curious.

Seems like it should be a lot more common then it appears. I mean, isn't the whole fucking point of feminism to say that gender doesn't matter? Then along come a bunch of losers who think that it matters SO much, that they need to take drastic action to change themselves, and they want to hang out in the same club as you? Fuck that.
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>>155898614
I wondered about this too. I guess it's just not popular with the Yuri crowd. It gets ridiculously rapey, and not in a good way.
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>>155898704
I think it's Trans Exclusionist Radical Feminist.
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if i'm a girl and i like reading trap on trap yaoi then what am i
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>>155899306
Probably bi.
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>>155899306
a patrician
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>>155899306
Post favorTITes
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>>155894257
But isn't that good? We could have him find some men attractive or have him against an opponent that actively plays up his homoness, but still go through the motions of a typical MC. Most shounen MCs don't even think about romance until relevant, so it shouldn't be a problem.

The only shounen that tried to make the gayness relevant and wasn't a BL to my memory was the oneshot about the asshole gay harem MC that just wanted to bone his friend.
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>>155899306
>trap on trap yaoi
Things that never happen, everybody.
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>>155890122
You can't lose your virginity with homosexual "sex".
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>>155899306
tfw in same boat but like trap x girl yuri
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>>155873268
No, fujos fucking loathe any females in their homo undertone anime.
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>>155899779
kys (kill your're self)
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