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New chapter is out and next episode is almost here, just be happy guys.
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Will Goku die?
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wtf i love toyo now
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FUCK
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>anime
>they use SSG's power a lot of times
>OK

>manga
>they use SSG form 3 times
>FUCKING TOYOTARO IS OBSESSED WITH SSG HE'S DESTROYING HIS VERSION IT LOOKS LIKE DBH

Toeishills autistic rage is more hilarious every month
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>>154742954

Agains, trunks don't have to protect other's timeline when the other gods from THESE TIMELINES can do it by themselves.

Just warn them then they will fuck zamasu's ass if he come to their timelines.
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>There's no daylight savings time in Japan, so Super may be on at a different time depending on where you live.
>There's no daylight savings time in Japan, so Super may be on at a different time depending on where you live.
>There's no daylight savings time in Japan, so Super may be on at a different time depending on where you live.
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>Goku actually tried to stop the fusion
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>>154743163
>The multiversal scheme doesn't balance because if warned, the other gods can defend their universe by themselves.
That's another step in reasoning. One could argue Black and Zamasu might become stronger or try other ways to kill the Gods e.g. killing their Kaioshins and so on. They almost did in that chapter too.
Just saying they plan on continuing the slaughter raises the stakes. Maybe not as much as having people to protect right here and now, but still.
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>>154743160
But SSG was only in 1 fight?
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>>154743037
Together we can end this pointless fighting!
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That's it. Im getting sick and tired of DBS' inconsistency.
Dragon Ball and DBZ was consistent as fuck. There was never a plothole at all.

But in Super there is a huge one, and by huge I mean HUGE.

Everyone saw the last Tournament between U6 and U7. Including Zeno.
That tournament was dominated by U7 fighters, they DID WON.
Not to mention Beerus is way stronger than Champa.
So you can't say "ningens lost, but the Hakaishin is stronger".

Now how the fuck is Universe 6 is superior to Universe 7???

> If you would say it's TOei's fault, I 'd believe that!
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>>154743133
L4ds, what the hell is going on here?
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>>154743064
Oh come on, I actually like Xenoverse. It has nice RPG elements with very satisfying gameplay.

Literally the only thing I don't like is the small roster which is constantly getting upgraded.
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>>154743240
This pasta has really grown, like it went from being a wee lad of a shitpost to straight up adding layers like and onion. Have your you lewd 18 poster, you've earned in my book!
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I hope we get this in XV, I don't know, looks cool
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>>154743221
Let's admit merged zamasu is defeated here, how can the other gods from other timelines shouldn't be able to beat his ass if they come to their OWN TIMELINES?
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>>154743235
>piccolo only has 3 fingers in the manga
>kid buu has fingers like fat buu
I don't like how the anime goes off model tbqh
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>>154743334
>Let's admit merged zamasu is defeated here
That's not the bad end scenario.
The bad end scenario is merged Zamasu defeating them and killing Shin. Beerus disappears. He kills everyone in the other universe. Nobody else knows about it. That's two universes down.
He can keep going. Merged Zamasu might be, or become as strong as a GoD.
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>>154743037
>that miniature trunks to the right

Cucked from his own saga.
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>>154743258
This so much.
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>Honey calm down, we can do this together
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>>154743421
Okay you won, trunks's motivation is shit.

He never was a relevant character, even in the cyborg's arc.
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>>154743385
Blame some silly censor but I'm not sure if that's a real thing
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>>154743334
By not being a retard and doing what Zamasu the bitch does by killing the kai instead of the GoD
>not just killing the weakest lowest ranked universes first then the top ones
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>>154743392
Like I said, Kaioshin was able to escape from them in the LAST CHAPTER.
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>>154743421
>Trunks is trying his damnest to save them and is running out of time

He has a time machine
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>>154743240
Averages. U6 still has lots of Saiyans (who aren't planet pillagers in this U) and Frost didn't go around killing off strong races like Frieza did. So there's likely more relatively strong being in U6, even if U7 has superior S-class talent.

Also, I'm not sure it's been explicitly stated that the universe rankings have to do with brute strength. I have a suspicion it will be revealed that the rankings have to do with intelligence or prosperity or something.

Also, also
>Dragon Ball and DBZ was consistent as fuck. There was never a plothole at all.
:^)
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>>154743163
He could have warned those same gods in the anime too before his timeline got fucked. That's not an issue of neither the manga or the anime.
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>>154743530
Read last month's chapter.
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>>154743500
That's why warning the other gods is enough.

Then they won't let their kaioshin dying this easily if they know that they should be careful about a renegade kaioshin.

You can't find any excuse to this.
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>>154743519
Kaioshin was about to be killed in the CURRENT CHAPTER.
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>>154743484
>Dragon Ball Super by 2004 Toriyama never
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>>154743555
Black killed EVERY GODS in trunks's timeline before going to earth.

The fuck are you sayingN
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>>154743234
Because Goku absorbed his power in the movie (and the anime), but he didn't in the manga so what the fuck would not use the form in the manga?
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Are you guys sure there's the episode today?
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>>154743612
>That's why warning the other gods is enough.
Who will warn them when Goku, Vegeta, Trunks and Shin are dead? Fucking Bulma? She'll be dead first.
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>>154743603
But he's talking about Anime Trunks there
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>>154743652
The gods from the OTHER timelines.

Follow the damn conversation.
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>>154743643
Good. His art decreased. DBS by 90's Toriyama is something worth crying over.
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>>154743639
Because he was retarded enough to attack black.

Did you read it?
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>>154743629
He traced himself but made it better, I think it's called improving but I'm not sure
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>>154743686
Read chapter 21, don't need to tell why.

>>154743701
I
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>>154743629
Is this anoter "toeishills doesn't know what tracing means at all" post? Just give up
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>>154743629
XICOR
HALF SAIYAN
HALF GOD
XICOR!
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>>154743715
Sorry but I prefer 2000's Toriyama over 90's. I don't like the style he got during the Buu arc.
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>>154743701
In the anime, he tried to save his timeline, not the other.

If he want to save the other timeline in the manga, then kaioshin can just warn them.
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On Kanzenshuu, everyone loves the chapter except for the same Toeishills who show up every month to bitch

This chapter was awesome, Toyo actually had the Mafuba affect Goku's stamina, unlike the anime. Goku was awesome this month. He noticed they were gonna fuse and tried to stop them

The reason they had to fuse was better here too. Zamasu realizing his immortality would be worthless with Black gone, and Goku's so aggressive that he would never be able to heal Black.

Only thing the anime topped in this chapter was the actual fusion, which was much better in the anime
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>"b-but how SS Black lose against not!Blue Vegeta if he's already SS3 tier in base form? TOYOKEKS BTFO!!"
>*next chapter shows up and Black was just wanting another zenkai*

>"b-but how is Vegeta switching between SSG and SSB if he was unable to go SSB twice in the tournament? TOYOKEKS BTFO!!!"
>*full translation shows up and Vegeta trained to go SSB many times without losing power*

They never learn?
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>>154743629
>Toeishills got BTFO with the SSGxSSB thing so the tracing meme is the only thing left again
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>>154743216
People think Goku is just a battle autist and a dumb person, but that charaterization was played mostly for laughs in fillers. Goku isn't dumb - if he was, he wouldn't have kicked the grenade back at Tao Pai Pai back in DB. He knew what guns and grenades were.

Remember when he arrived in West City the first time, and he asked a policeman for directions to Bulma's house?
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>>154743770
Nah, it's a "Toyo is using this arc as a proxy to finish is AF comic post"
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>>154743759
Beerus will be dead once Kaioshin is. Whis will turn off.
Nobody can tell the other GoDs. Goku's timeline will be slaughtered if they fail.
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>>154743805
>Toyo actually had the Mafuba affect Goku's stamina, unlike the anime

Because he never used it in the anime. Better show Gary Strunks learning it with a How To video by Piccolo
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>>154743643
It hurts as well anon.
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>Db super manga selling like shit
>While the anime is popular as fuck

Really make you think.
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>>154743723
Apparently. But nobody's to say Black wouldn't have eventually found him.
In any case, Kaioshin was almost killed. Black is a threat. Merged Zamasu is worse.
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>>154743879
Trunks used it in the anime, and it didn't affect his stamina at all, that's what I'm talking about.
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>>154743850
Oh, I see. I've never read DBAF so I don't really care.
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>>154743869
KAIOSHIN IS ABLE TO ESCAPE LIKE HE DID IN CHAPTER 21.

Geez, do you even know how to read?
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>>154743805
I think the Mafuba is more of a tug-of-war style attack, and depending on your opponent's strength (if he's the same power level or stronger than you), your stamina is going down the drain fast. They showed this with Trunks - when he sealed Zamasu, he was gasping for air, even though he had a Senzu before.

So, Mutaito and Roshi dying because of Mafuba makes sense, since they were much weaker than Piccolo. Kami didn't die because his power was just a little below Piccolo's.
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>>154743903
>nobody's to say Black wouldn't have eventually found him

Nice headcanon.
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Has anyone else noticed that this tournament literally has exactly the same rules as Super Smash Brothers, an arena that is almost like Final Destination and a contestant that is literally Fox and Marth fused together into a single character?

One of the competing Universes is literally Universe 20XX and they're sending their most overpowered fighters combined for this kind of game.

And it seems like they've been training for it too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFT8ti5JIp4
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>>154743986
No stop being a furposter
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>>154743805
>which was much better in the anime
I'm agree but it was because Toei is too retarded to check how potara fusion looks. Simple and effective, not flashy as a magical girl transformation sequence.
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>>154743986
>you cannot kill your opponents
why? if they lose they die anyway
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>>154743986
Yu Yu Hakusho had a similar tournament (the last one, not the first one). Since there were something like 2000 entrants in the first round, they just made them fight on huge islands, with 49 entrants on each. Or was it 149? I forgot.
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>>154743926
>>154743974

So basically
>Gowasu is injured
>Kaioshin escape with trunks and mai if possible
>Go to an another timeline
>Warn the gods in this timeline
>Do the same with the other
>Zamasu will not be able anymore to kill kaioshin from other if he come to their timelines easily.

How to end this arc.
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>>154743821
>>154743836
Every single month it happens. They treat their assumptions as fact, then get BTFO when the actual chapter releases.
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>>154743926
Right now he wasn't. Narration implied he was going to get killed.
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>>154743986
>>154744069
http://yuyuhakusho.wikia.com/wiki/Demon_World_Tournament
>A total of 6,272 demons signed up for the tournament. As a result, the preliminary matches consisted of 128 fights with 49 demons, in which the last person standing in each group progressed to the first round of the tournament. Each preliminary battle takes place on a gargantuan Okunen Tree.
This one was a true battle royale, free-for-all. DB Super's has people fighting in teams.
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>>154743530
Time mechanics in dragonball don't allow him to abuse timetravel the way you suggest, this has been true since the cell saga.

or rather they're conveniently written so it allows for drama, even in the cell saga they end up contradicting themselves and the manga's current portrayal.
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>>154744033
They are gods retard.

It's obvious they tried to make their transformation more godlike.
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>>154744035
Zeno might not be a ningen, but he really thinks like one
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>>154743884
>Db super manga selling like shit

It's actually selling well, and sales increase each volume.
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>>154744116
Because he attack black like a retard beside trying to escape.
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>>154744095
Also don't forget Black has IT too. If Kaioshin can teleport, so can Black. And Shin wasn't thinking of running away right now.

Black is a threat. A major one.
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>>154743800
Bullshit. Trunks would care about the other timelines too, or else he wouldn't care about the present timeline after he saw his future didn't change during the cell arc.
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>universal """"""""tournament""""""""""" is a shitty battle royale lasting 48 minutes

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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When's the episode?
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>>154744132
And they did it, it was cool, but still inconsistent.
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>>154744161
>Buu was going to destroy the universe because Goku was too retarded to kill him! And so were Gotenks, Gohan and Vegetto
>That means there's no stake at all in the Buu arc! Who cares if the universe is about to be destroyed?

Let's go further.
>Kid Buu can defeat Goku, who cares? Gohan is there. So is Gotenks. There are no stakes at all.
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>>154744185
Why kaioshin said that black shoudn't be able to found him in CHAPTER 21 then?

>>154744192
Never said he wouldn't retard.

What I said here, is that while trunks is obviously the only one with goku and vegeta to be able to save the remaining humans, so obviously he prioritize that since warning the other gods wouldn't do shit about his own timeline.

In the manga, with just the other timelines, warning the other gods make MORE SENSES since they will do things for their OWN TIMELINES.
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>>154744246
Let's keep going.
>Goku can just die against Freeza. Use the Dragon Balls to teleport and revive everyone. They have both sets, so even if Freeza comes to destroy the Earth they can go somewhere else.

>Who cares about Cell? Contact Nameks with Kaio. Revive Piccolo with Namek Dragon Balls. Revive Earthlings. Almost everyone will come back to life, including Gohan.
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>>154744226
Not really inconsistent, they can, potala is their thing.

>>154744246
So trunks is like goku and vegeta then?

Just want to fight strong guys?
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>>154744303
>Why kaioshin said that black shoudn't be able to found him in CHAPTER 21 then?
He was too optimistic. Or Black was focused on ending ningens at the moment.
Black can, and almost DID kill Kaioshin, potentially ending a second universe with him.

Black IS a threat. At least as much as Buu or Freeza.
>>154744246
>>154744327
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>>154744303
So you want them all to just sit on their asses and do nothing in the manga? That's not very entertaining anon.
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>>154744327
Trunks and kaioshin aren't goku and vegeta retard.

Kaioshin actually disagree a lot about how goku and vegeta behave in such serious situation.

Speedreader.
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Anime >>> Manga
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>>154744207
>forgetting how long five minutes is in the DB universe to fit the anime narrative like on Namek
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>>154744375
>So trunks is like goku and vegeta then?
What are you on about? I'm saying that if Black can be cheated out of his victory using alternate ways, so can Freezer, Buu, or even Cell. If that means there's no stakes for Black, then all three big villains of DBZ were that way too.

>>154744421
You seem to lack reading comprehension, on top of being an ESL. I suggest shutting the fuck up and do something with your worthless life other than shitting up a thread
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Why the fuck are goku and vegeta going ssj red?
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>>154743037
Translations out yet? If not I'll do it.
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>>154744540
Please do it anon!
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>>154744444
faggot.
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>>154744535
Why do you think Goku use SSG in the anime?
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>>154744540
DO EEEEEET please
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>>154744540
don't think so
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>>154744378
>He was too optimistic. Or Black was focused on ending ningens at the moment.

Nice headcanon.

>>154744410
Just show that the arc feels forced in the manga.

Zamasu's arc was a change in the anime since they were actually focusing on saving people without having any other option.
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>>154744581
>questioning quints
>>>/out/
fucking nu-/a/
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>>154744540
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>>154744584
What do you mean? Isn't red weaker anyways?
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>>154744601
Except that Trunks being the holy savior of his timeline was never a thing in the manga anyway. And just warning the gods and going home would be a shitty and underwhelming ending.
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>>154743160
>>154743629
>>154743770
>>154743850
>>154743821
>>154743836
>>154743850
>>154743884
>>154744113
>>154744444
Holy fuck, FUCK OFF. MAKE YOUR OWN FUCKING THREAD IF YOU WANT TO CRY AND DEFEND ABOUT YOUR MANGA/ANIME, NOBODY CARES HERE.

Seriously, if your "manga" or "anime" is so good that it doesn't have to be explained why it's so good, then WHY THE FUCK DO YOU GUYS KEEP EXPLAINING

>Hurr but the other people have to understand but they never doOoOooo

Then why the FUCK do you keep explaining if they never will get it. Just fucking STOP.

It really makes you think how stupid you are.
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>>154744692
>>154744601
Not to mention they can't warn the GoDs anymore. The fight is on right now.
Also, Merged Zamasu might be as strong as a GoD. Or become as strong. Or strong enough to kill a Kaioshin even with the GoD trying to protect him.

There are plenty of ways for Black to fuck shit up. As many as for Freeza, Cell and Buu. The situation is just as critical.
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>>154744444
>44444
>Taste this shitty
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>>154744491
The fuck trunks is doing here so?

Goku choose to fight freezer
Goku cooose to let androids happen
Goku choose to let buu happen

Trunks isn't goku, he will cheat out if he can.

He has no purpose to fight Zamasu now since everyone is dead in his timeline and that the other gods if warned can defend their timelines without him.

It feels much less epic, more forced.
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>>154744692
So he's shit in the manga and has no purpose.
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>>154744690
fuck I mean SSG's power
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>>154744757
Also knowing how kaioshins are dumb fucks, they would probably try to face Zamasu and Black themselves and get killed.
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>>154744827
>manga doesn't treat him like Jesus Christ so he is shit
Ok anon.
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>>154744856
>Justifying this by making kaioshin retarded
>Not shit writing
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>>154744757
Exactly. Imagine what Black could become if he faces the Pride Troopers
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>>154744891
Why bringing him back if it's for just letting him watching fight and being a bait?
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LE
MANGA
VS
ANIME
XDDD
>>>/out/
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>>154744777
Trunks wanted to save his universe. He's still not sure whether or not there are people remaining, on Earth or not. Black supposedly killed the last humans right when Trunks arrived, but Trunks isn't sure yet and he's fighting to save Mai and Kaioshins right now.
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>>154744955
Nice headcanon.
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>>154744777
Not everyone is dead. Besides that Zamasu is a threat that should be exterminated now. They cannot go to all the timelines, what if the timeline he goes to is different? If the gang go to another timeline to tell them Black is coming ANOTHER TIMELINE WILL BE CREATED WHERE THEY DON'T
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>>154744898
>Justifying Freezer, Cell and Buu by making LITERALLY EVERYONE RETARDED
>WHY DON'T THEY JUST USE DRAGON BALLS TO DESTROY SAIYANS SPACE PODS?
>WHY DID PICCOLO FIGHT THE CYBORGS?
>WHY DIDNT THEY WISH EVERYONE AWAY FROM NAMEK BEFORE FIGHTING FREEZA?

I can keep going for hours.
Shut the fuck up and learn English before posting in these threads.
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>>154744955
Zamasu killed the last remaining humans while Trunks was recovering in the kaioshin planet last chapter.
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>>154744937
Did the same in the Cell arc and he's still popular
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>>154744996
Where is the headcanon? You're sounding like a broken record, fucking retard. Trunks CAN'T KNOW whether or not there are still people in the universe. Black told him he finished killing the last Earthlings, but he can't know if Black is right.

He could probably use the Namekian Dragon Balls too. He knows about them, he's been revived by them.

>>154745075
Zamasu killed the last ones right when Trunks arrived. That's why they came in the first place, to prevent these murders from happening.
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>>154745016
No timelines are created when you use the Time Ring.

>>154745033
Retard should see >>154744601
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>>154744937
>>154745105
Trunks did LESS in the Cell arc. He didn't help at all. Remove him ENTIRELY from the arc and nothing changes.

Trunks saved Goku, Vegeta and Mai in this arc.
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Where's the new Episode? Has Goku fought that Giant red superhero dude yet?
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>>154745112
Because gowasu told him to.

Trunks doesn't seems to give a shit anymore.
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>>154745181
1 hour 42 minutes ningen
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>>154745206
Is that the time it will show from now on every Saturday?
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Why doesn't Piccolo just absorb Black?
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>>154745164
It's supposed to be the only arc where he appears.

He shouldn't have come back at all then if it's to give more goku and vegeta.
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>>154745226
>show from now
I forget about that, then try 42 minutes?
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>>154745181
he's actually a manlet
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Do you guys ever rest?
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niggerreader is out http://mangastream.com/r/dragon_ball_super/022/4114/1
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>>154745202
Trunks is fighting people far stronger than him and dealing with apocalypse and timelines shenanigans, as well as the deaths of his saviors.

>>154745241
He appeared. He helped. He will help more in the next chapter.

How about stopping to be a retard and learning English? You're shitting up the thread. Nobody wants you here.
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>>154745265
What?
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>>154745281
>resting
>when you can use that time arguing, shitposting, and YOKA YOKA DANCING
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Killing off Shin. There.
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>>154745315
Checking youtube streams says it's 1 hour 40 minutes
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>>154745287
So pure ;_; ...
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>>154745307
All you want me here. You're the retard not I.
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>>154745287
This made me kek for some reason
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>>154745386
>stream
Do you have an archive that the stream is posted in? I'll search for it from there.
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>>154745164
In fact, the only win he had in the Cell arc was at the end, just like in this one
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>>154743037
Who drew this illustration? It doesn't look like Yamamuro's artstyle but it has his retarded ear placement.
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>Are you winning, son?
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>>154745287
Okay, so how a fusion between a SS2-tier and SSR tier will be more powerful?

HOW?
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>>154745442
Ningen just google dragon ball super or dbs episode 82 stream and you will get it
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>>154744219
Those were the days. I remember being in a Circuit City after school and watching some episode of Dragon Ball on one of their TVs.
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>>154745480
One SS2/SS3 gave something far stronger than a SS3.
I expect Merged Zamasu to be at least, like, 3 times stronger.
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>>154745287
5/10, it's a meh chapter.

Let's hope it get better in the next one.
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im in the mood to draw something dragonball related just some sketching to pass the time til the episode
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>>154745480
>Zamas
>SS2 tier in the manga

Wrong, never stated at all
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>>154745504
>youtube
I always thought these were shown on some random streaming site or something?
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>>154745515
Their power are FAR FAR FAR from being in the same.

It is said by Goku that in Buu's arc, using potola with someone much less powerful than you make you weaker.
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>>154745531
Krillin balancing Destructo Disks on sticks.
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>>154745548
Goku said that even trunks is stronger than him.

Speedreader.
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>>154745287
>"Let me see... Just what kind of transformation you think can defeat me!"

Poor Blacky
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>>154745591
No it's not. He doesn't know about it, in fact. He just thought about fusing with Satan and thought they might not get stronger at all or even weaker. That's all speculation from his part because he doesn't know SHIT about Potalas.

There's much less of a difference between a SS2 and a SSR than between an SS3 and Satan. Trunks SS2 can at least hit Black and send him flying. Satan can't make Perfect Cell move at all.
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Oh thank god the trucks are fine
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Is this show ever gonna get a season 1 blu-ray release with English track?

All they have is shitty DVD Japenese versions with English subs. bleck.....
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>>154745633
>Goku said that even trunks is stronger than him.
When?
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>>154745723
http://mangastream.com/r/dragon_ball_super/022/4114/40
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>>154745558
Some of them actually work, since reddit reported vaughn streams, I had to move to youtube
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>>154745591
>It is said by Goku that in Buu's arc, using potola with someone much less powerful than you make you weaker.
And Goku speculation is true because...
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>>154744751
Mangafags started this war with their "Copypasta every thread about why the anime is shit, posted dozens of times per thread if anyone disagrees, and I'm zealous how no one is allowed to like the anime. Any thread that speaks positively about the anime I'll spread my copypasta about the manga being the only canon muh Toyo".

They made it a war between the factions. Just one autist posting the same thing each thread made it a war basically.
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>>154745287
>Black called Future Zamasu brother
Mmm
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Couldn't they just use the power of friendship technique to make Gohan and the other saiyans SSG or do they have to be full blood saiyan.

Also, I bet they will conveniently forget about the time chamber and Whis' staff in prep
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Why didn't trunks use zekai?

He could have get relevant this way.
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>Black is smug
>but Vegeta is smuger

Based
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>>154745866

SSR is so far ahead of SSJ3 that any non-God zenkai wouldn't have mattered much.
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>>154745912
So how did black beat SSB in SSJ1 with just zekai?
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>>154745723
REMINDER MANGA GOKU JOBBED TO A GUY THAT IS SS2 TIER
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>>154745938

First ones are always the biggest. I believe he was SSJ2 anyways
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>>154745938
Black base power was already ss3
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>>154745287
>Shin grew a pair and tried to attack Zamasu

Nice
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Why are DBS threads always full with retards and cheap baits?

Anyway, I just hope Gohan gets a power-up soon. He needs it if he wants to be on the same ligue as Goku and Vegeta.
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>>154745996
Because of zekai. It is implied that he use it a lot of times.

Again, why didn't trunks also use it?
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>Vegeta vs Powerlevelfags
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>>154746077
>Mr. Rosé
kek
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I love Vegeta-sama.
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>>154746022
>Anyway, I just hope Gohan gets a power-up soon. He needs it if he wants to be on the same ligue as Goku and Vegeta.
He will never ever be on the same league as Goku and Vegeta. Stop dreaming Gohanfag.
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>>154746057
Black was already ss3 tier pre zenkai boost that vegeta gave him.
Trunks went from ss to ss3 during those 3 years. Not to mention zamasu zenkai is much bigger then goku's/vegeta's and probably trunks
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>>154746077
Blacks neck is T H I C C
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>>154746022
Time for the gohan fans daily reminder
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>>154746057

Trunks has already had a ton of zenkais from the Androids, RoSaT, Cell, and Dabura. He is nearing his peak while Black is in a brand new body ready to take advantage of fresh zekai from a rediculously high base.
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>>154745957
Why didnt shin use paralysis against dabura during the buu arc... that technique is OP as fuck
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>>154744540
Chapter 22 Zamasu’s Last Resort

http://imgur.com/a/rat6i

Page 1
“Gowasu sama!” “Gowasu sama!” “GOWASU SAMA!!”

Page 2
Black: “Heh!”
Shin: “A god who is suppose to guide the universe into peace doing something like this… I cannot forgive…!”

Page 3:
Zamasu: ”What is an incompetent god that doesn’t even have the power to protect the universe like you saying.”

Trunks: “Gowasu sama! You cannot die! Please wake up and open your eyes!”

Page 4
Gowasu: *gasp* *cough cough*
Mai: “He’s alive!” “Kaioshinsama! Gowasu sama is still alive!”
Black: “What? Tch… I must have missed his vital points…”

Page 5
Black: “If I let you live you might ran away with Instant Transmission again so I’ll just start killing you Kaioshisn first”
Trunks: “Mai! With this Bike you and Gowasu need to run away as far as possible!”
Mai: “What about you Trunks?”
Trunks: “I’ll hold them off until father and co show up, Go!”
Page 6
Goku: “It’s alright, Trunks and Mai are both still alive:
Vegeta: “They seem to be pretty far from here”
Goku: “This is bad! Trunks’ Ki is getting smaller and smaller”
Vegeta: “They must be mid combat”
Goku: “Let’s go Vegeta!”

Page 7
Trunks: “F-Father…”
Vegeta: “ *chi* (disgruntled sound) “
Goku: “The Supreme Kai is here as well…!”
Black: “Oh already back?”
Vegeta: “I’ll defeat him, you go feed these two a senzu”

Page 8
Goku: “You can do it yourself?”
V: “Of course”
V: “You’re going to seal Immortal Zamasu right?
Goku: “yeah I know, that’s what I’ll do”
“Trunks!!!”
“Sorry Trunks, you did good holding them off, but for now here is a senzu…”
Zamasu: “I won’t let you do that!”
“They got away…”
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>>154746129
Why is it bigger?

Pic related just say that he use it a lot.

Gowasu should have done the same with trunks.
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>>154745402
>asking what the fuck is that lewd shit Goku put in the jar
Torankusu a cute!
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>>154746077
>>154746118
>ningen
>based
Pick one
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>>154746192
Page 9
Mai: “Goku san!”
Goku: “osu! Sorry for keeping you waiting!”
Mai: “Um.. If you have a senzu please give it to Gowasu sama..!”
Goku “eh who?”

Page 10
Black: “In front of me you still look the same…..” Did something change Vegeta?”
Vegeta: “ heh, you seem to always have a despicable face:
Black: “How ‘prestigious’ of you, did you somehow find a new transformation?”
Vegeta: “Perhaps?”
Black: “Alright then, show it to me”

Page 11
Black: “no matter what transformation, don’t think you can win against me!”
Vegeta “HAH!”
Black: “What?”

Page 12
Black:” Red hair? Super Saiyan God?”
“What the hell are you doing?”
Vegeta: “ I know now” “to defeat you I needed this form”
Black: “haahahaha, what can you do in your hour of desperation? What can you do now with this weaker inferior SSJ form?”
“...........What’s with your face?”

Page 13
Black: “Do not laugh Saiyan!”

Page 14
Black” I said stop with that snear/face/mug!”

Page 15
Black: “you, your speed drastically increased, what did you do?”
Vegeta “I’ll tell you what I just did now”
Black “You, how are you getting that kind of power from that body…!”

Action sequence page 16-17

Page 18
Black “stop fooling around, using an incomprehensible ability”
Vegeta “Upset losing to a god? Mr. Rose (Rose sama)
Black: “me lose? Don’t say joke around”
Vegeta: “Well then, let me just establish a clear now victory then”


(quick break brb 20min)
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>>154746181
>Implying goku hasn't get a lot.
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We red now.
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>>154746225
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Leave the tournament to me dad.
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>>154746198
>This could've ended earlier if goku wasn't such a fucking clutz
for fucks sake kakacarrot cake
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>>154746193
>Why is it bigger?
Because each time he gets a zenkai his cell's merge with goku's body more and more and is therefore able to unlock all of goku's body potential. Like chapter 20 already said : at first he couldnt go ssj let alone god
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>>154746181
We have no backstory about how he has take goku's body beside just using SDB.

How do you know that it's "fresh"?
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>>154745957
But Trunks is SSJ3 tier, he just happens to use SSJ2 that is as strong as our usual SSJ3
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>>154746277
Lay down kiddo
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>>154746171
Gohan was the most powerful not-fused character on the whole story.

DBS isn't canon since it's not written by Toriyama himself, so...
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>Salty

Mangastream is so fucking dreadful, holy shit
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>>154746277
>jobberhan
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>>154746192
No need for that mangastream is already out. You too late now fuck off
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>Smug Vegeta.

I love it.
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>>154746337
Fuck off gohanfag. Thread is already bad enough even without your kind here.
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>>154746337
Lol kee crying gohanfag
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>>154746319
Ok? Doesnt change the fact that zamasu is weaker then trunks in power and probably around ss2 tier and that goku jobbed to him
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Is the episode not 7PM EST anymore?
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>black isnt even SSG level
AHAHAHAHAA
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>>154746356
No need to be an asshole to him, retard. That's why nice people don't bother with these threads.
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>>154746139
now that you mention it. it looks really weird
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>>154746423
Daylights savings time
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>>154746424
>I don't read the chapter
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>>154746337
you said it
was the most powerful
was
he's just a jobber now
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>>154746356
Nah I'm sure those translations are more accurate then niggerstream
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>>154746452
Fuck off paco where do you think you are?
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>Learning from his mistakes

FINALLY
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>>154746356
>mangastream
Niggerstream can fuck off.

>>154746233
Keep going
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i have to wait another hour for DBS!?!?!?!?

fuck daylights saving time!
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>>154746192
>>154746233
even though niggastream is already out, thanks for taking your time to translate it
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>>154746498
In a thread full of underaged retards, it seems.
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>>154746391
I'm the one who correctly stated the obvious with vegeta and the mafuba before EOPs tho
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I'm pretty sure this will be useful
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why do you people hate mangastream so much?
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>>154746401
>Zamasu is aparently defeated (fucking stabbed, they don't knew he was immortal) -> Goku drops the god ki back to regular SS -> Zamasu use Kaioshin paralisis -> Goku can't defense himself or go SS3 or God
Make sense if you ask me
>>
Link to stream?
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>Your evil ways
Now I am reminded of the Budokai game I played yesterday.
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>>154746544
wow anon you're so important
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>>154746337
HAHAHAHA
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>>154746356
fuck you
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>>154745287
Manga Black is such a whiny bitch
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>>154746560
Someone post nigger zeno
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>>154746616
He just can't stand that there's someone that can out-smug him. Nothing wrong with that.
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>>154746616
just like anime black
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Manga black is vegeta's little bitch he got fucked twice by him HARD
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>>154745957
Better than Future Zamasu physical holding down both SSB Goku and SS2 Trunks who are both stronger than him.
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>>154746506
B-but manga-Goku is retarded too, he took the wrong paper strip!
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>>154746548
Zamasu BTFO
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>>154746267
Well, this is a little interesting, at least.
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>>154746648
This.
https://u.nya.is/ehxitj.mp4
>y-y-you're just an appetizer
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>>154746657
> caring about anime shit
Fuck off diego
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>>154746548
Nice anon.
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>>154746662
>he took the wrong paper strip!
Roshi's fault for keeping his coupons and world-saving magical seals in the same pile.
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>>154746645
I like nigger zeno
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>>154746652
Actually vegeta only defeats him once.
First time black wasnt going all out and was just zenkai baiting
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>>154746657
B-But SSB uses a lot of stamina and Trunks is tired.
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>>154746688
>actually stuttering in the subtitles
Holy shit
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>>154746733
ehh it could be worse

its not that bad really
>>
Manga Black is an incompetent loser who thought he'd be OP just because he stole a Saiyan's body. He then realized he couldn't use it correctly, and regularly got embarrassed by actual saiyans who knew what they were doing

Anime Black is a Gary Stu that's perfect at everything and uses Goku's body better than he ever did. But he's charming and smug, so he's enjoyable

Manga Black is better written, Anime Black is more enjoyable.
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>>154746739
>First time black wasnt going all out and was just zenkai baiting
>MANGAFAGS AND THEIR HEADCANON
show me in the manga where ita implied black was holding back I am waiting
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>Zamasu being weaker than a SS3 is in Toriyama outline
>this shit still happened

BRAVO TOEI
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>>154746657
Fucking elbow him you fools!
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when does episode 82 start?
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>>154746809
He has 20 years to train as a talented kaio.
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I like that Merged Zamasu has that bang from his Kaioshin hairstyle
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how long until the new episode?
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>tfw the manga chapter was amazing but the anime episode tonight is going to be boring as fuck

I'm sorry but the manga is just way better, it HAS to be said... forgive me Toeipedros!
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>>154746794
>incompetent
Nope thats anime Black.
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>>154746809
the same episode where trunks can fight evenly with rose black
the powerscales are fucked in the anime
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>>154745631
took a bit longer than expected
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>>154746560
Too much unnecessary, cringeworthy swearing that makes it look like it was translated by an edgy teenager.
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>>154746855
Agreed.
>>
That SSG greatness
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>>154746867
>boring
as much as i dislike the anime
toppo vs goku might be interesting
>>
So will Vegetto eat the remaining senzu so he can be at full power? Also Trucks has the time machine capsule so he can do something useful before multiversal extinction
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>>154746838
1 hour you ningen
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>>154746192
The chapter is out by now but thanks anyway anon, your effort is helpful to the community

>>154746356
Kill yourself you retard asshole
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Holy shit, my fucking sides
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>>154746804
Black had ssg already unlocked or how do you think zamasu would know that ssrose is a ssgss form and not black's version of ssg?? Not to mention this chapter re confirms it by black knowing ssg and that is a lower form then ssblue/ssrose.
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>>154746604
you know it senpai.
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>>154746804
>they realize Black become stronger by zenkai
>next page, Shin literally says Black's only reason to make a team with Zamasu is spam zenkais

>also before when SS Black was surpassing SSB Vegeta for first time Goku doesn't understand at all how is that happening, when he already knows zenkais are a thing

>n-not implied
>>
is SSB still stronger than SSG?
>>
All this manga/anime bitching is stupid.

Both of them are equally one sided in their portrayals of characters like Goku, when actual DB/DBZ Goku was somewhere in the middle.
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>>154747065
Yes.
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Based.
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>>154746968
the way the manga is going, what would make the most sense is vegito turning ssg and defeating merged zamasu. trunks would still have to live elsewhere since every person on earth was killed

if the rule about fusion running out faster still applies to the manga, i wonder if it will happen with just ssg? or maybe vegeto just goes ssb either way

i think goku might eat the senzu too though, since he already used the mafuba and is relatively tired. could vegeto even turn ssb if goku fuses with vegeta without enough strength to transform it himself? we'll see. there are too many questions that the anime didn't answer to know for sure what will happen
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>>154747051
>>154747064
Then why the fuck did he let himself get beaten by vegeta ???
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>>154747065
Stronger but consumes more stamina
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>>154744952
No use, anon. This thread is already shit. I'll just be back in an our for the broadcast.
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>>154747106
go away salagir
nobody cares about that fanfiction shit
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>>154747119
>Then why the fuck did he let himself get beaten by vegeta ???
For the zenkai you illiterate retard
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>>154746852
>he will live for million and millions years
>only needs 17 to go from SS2 tier to SSB tier
He doesn't need Goku's body, then.
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When does the episode air?
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>>154746943
>>154746855
>Zamasu still have balls in the manga
>merged Zamasu as well, he's smug too

Our guy
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>>154746548
Goku should just talk him into a depression
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>>154747038
What's that?
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>>154747158
He's immortal meaning he can take anything Goku pulls.
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>>154747158
Not him but, to be fair, Zamasu was constantly shown as getting beat by Trunks, Goku, and Vegeta in the anime.

The literal only reason he lasted like he did was because he was immortal.

And the only times he even removtly put up some sort of sustainable attack against Goku and Co was after they had been weakened by fighting Black.

Zamasu never did anything of note against Goky, Vegeta, or Trunks when they were actually at their full.
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>>154747119
To get another Zenkai, fucking retard
>>
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>>154747162
See
>>154746971
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>>154747038
This is embarrassing for you, toeishill. I'm not joking here, just stop.
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>>154747106
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>>154747194
So Vegeta and Trunks are brothers?
Where the hell is King Vegeta's spirit?
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Ok guys there is something I dont get.
Vegeta now trained so that he can transform in blue without losing the original power boost that it gives but why doesnt he just fight in blue in the first place??? Why bother doing the switch in and out? Does ssb in the manga decrease your stamina by time?
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>that Mai
>>
This chapter was honestly rather bad. Toyo please don't fuck up the next one
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>No killing
>Wins by ring outs only

Why does zeno always ruin things for Champa?

Hit would win if he could kill, and Botamo would be basically unstoppable without ringouts.
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>>154747038
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>>154747242
Don't expect something from mangacucks honestly.

They don't watch the Anime.
>>
Someone should make a manga thread already
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>>154747295
I didn't like this one either. I hope the next one is really good.
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>>154747272
Yes it got a new weakness so Toyo could put SSG there. Fuck Toyo SSB is way better than SSG
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>>154747272
>Does ssb in the manga decrease your stamina by time

all forms do this

so yes his strategy is to not get tired right away

he can still go blue, goku cant right now
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>>154747272
sustaining the transformation drains stamina. he trained himself to not lose a lot of power once turning it off (like what happened before vs cabba + hit). that doesn't mean he can stay transformed without it affecting him. it's 2 different things
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even the best marriage has it's problems
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>>154743326
Looked cooler when Nappa did it.
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>>154747295
It feels too rushed.

The previous chapter weren't rushed.

Black should have resisted more.

Same for zamasu.
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>>154747375
A sad falling out
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>>154747300
Don't forget the place where the tournament would be. No time jumps for Hit unless he "evolves" again.
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This episode will be a shit waste of time that ruins the hype for how powerful u11 is. U9 preview didn't matter but a pride trooper fighting pretournament is stupid. I'd rather see android 17
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>>154747336
>goku cant right now
Which is bullshit because the only one who got tired after using Mafuba was Roshi. Then again most people in these threads didn't read or watch the original dragon ball so I'm not surprised by their ignorance
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How accurate are niggerstream translations?
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>>154747065
SSG = God power, balanced, based
SSB = God power, stronger but drains more energy

A good strategy and know when you must use each form is the way to winning.
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where is the link?
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>>154747212
It's from Toyo's AF. Vegeta rapidly switches between transformations to beatdown Xicor

>>154747256
>pointing out that Toyo is literally turing Super into AF makes me a Toeishill
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>>154747434
that look on black in the top panel
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>>154747375
>>154747434
Zamasu is so mean
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>>154745287
>supreme kai finally tries to do something
>immediately gets btfo'd

After what happened with Buu, why does this faggot never train? Sure he's not a prodigy like Zamasu, but he could have at lest been somewhat helpful.
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>>154746277
>2 minutes later
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>>154746517
>Keep going
Thanks but I actually have work to do so i'll pass

>>154747470
>How accurate are niggerstream translations?
It's quite accurate, it does favor more towards linguistic flow rather than a word for word direct translation but this chapter seems alright. No more Ghetto Zeno these days either.
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>>154747479
ssg=mastered ssj1 form
ssb=ssj2
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>>154747540
Supreme Kai was FPSSJ tier at best, low SSJ2 when he was Kibitokai. He's nowhere near close to being relevant.
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>>154747540
Only goku and Vegeta are allowed to progress.

Even more implied in the Manga.
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Why didn't Toyo just use Beyond God like the movies? He's just trying to be different and is hurting the manga's quality
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>>154747514
frankly, I prefer them being completely bonkers and overfilled with self-confidence in the anime.
It was much more entertaining.
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Why is the manga so far behind?
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>>154747242
>>154747317
See >>154746809 and stop being retarded, you're saying a SS2 can do this to a SSB because "h-he's weakened" (also ignoring that then SSR Black would kill they in seconds then)
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S-S-Shut up NINGEN!!!
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>>154747568
But anon, I want word for word translations
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>GO!
Kek, poor Mai. She's worried sick but Trunks has to yell at her like that or else she will stay there.
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>>154747038
Holy shit, did he really sneak something from AF into the official manga?
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>>154747361
How did he manage to beat black if the only thing he edges over him is stamina?
I mean in terms of power rose> blue
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>>154747514
>Vegeta letting them fuse
First the stupid 10% rule and now this. Fucking Toyo always shitting on Vegeta
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>>154747571
You're retarded
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>>154747671
>Vegeta letting them fuse
Nah that was the anime.
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>>154747490
>Toyo is literally turning Super into a AF because a character cleans himself with his hand, same thing every fucking fighter in every manganime series do
I already told you, this is embarrasing, just stop.
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>>154747571
SS2 didn't have any problems
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>>154747671
> vegeta lets black achieve rose
> vegeta lets them fuse
The price for that is black jobs to vegeta
Seems pretty fair trade off
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soon
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>>154744219
Fug, I miss my CRT with the integrated VHS player. Loved that thing, but eventually the colors started to fade, the case got really lose for some reason despite never fucking with it until it went kaput.
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>>154747571
More like ssb=ssj3
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>>154747334
>"new"

>toeishills didn't watch even their own beloved anime
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>>154747647
well since he trained for a year, his power level is meant to have increased too. the thing is, base black was > ssj3, while ssj black managed to hit ssb vegeta. so would one year of training be enough to overcome that difference? it honestly shouldn't be.

that said, trunks was greatly weakened in the future, so it makes sense that black shouldn't have been that strong (so ssj3 goku or a rested + well fed trunks should be > than base black). but the problem is that ssj black still managed to hit ssb vegeta

that said, the manga is still on another level entirely in terms of consistency compared to the anime, even in terms of power levels
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>>154747611
He's immortal so nothing Goku does will effect him and Goku knows this so he won't waste energy on him to preserve the energy he has left. Now can you stop being retarded?
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>>154747621
>But anon, I want word for word translations
well i was doing word for word posted earlier but now I'm lazy since it's already out.
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>>154747721
Too much coincidence I guess?
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So...is Toyotarou releasing the manga as he is working on it, or did he out pace the anime but can't release for anime spoilers? In that case the anime would be polishing his works.
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>>154747787
*ssj2 black rather than ssj black was ssj2
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>>154747608
Because it's stuck in a monthly magazine.
In terms of production it's ahead of the anime, as seen when we got manga panels for the trailer for the Universe Survival arc.
But because it's in V Jump, it's way behind in releases. And that's never going to change, because most of the higher-ups in the Dragon Ball Room are also faggots from the V Jump staff, so they aren't going to let it slip to a weekly publication.
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>>154747728
ssj2 is staining on the users body
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>>154747602
>Beyond God
Was stupid especially combining it with regulsr ssj. It made a mess of the powerscale and everyone who watched the anime thought frost/cabba were god tier. Ssg being its own thing is much clearer
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>>154747711
>>154747729
Regressing Vegeta's character is a problem. After the Cell saga he stopped letting his enemies transform
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>>154747740
later
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>>154747647
He fucking trained in RoSaT, his SSB is stronger than before

>rose > blue
The gap between Black's SS and SSR isn't big at all so Rosé is weaker than Blue (is about multipliers, base Black is just strong enough)
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>>154747646
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>>154747854
>so they aren't going to let it slip to a weekly publication.
>slip
they're literally printing money with DBS as the flagship title for VJump.
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>>154747784
I know it's a stamina drain in both but Toyo turned SSB into a stronger SS3. Fuck him
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>>154747628
not the first time. Mai would stay there or do anything reckless to protect him if he doesn't tell her not to do that.
They care in their own way.
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>>154747867
>What is buu
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>>154747814
The anime just uses Toriyama's outline
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>>154747893
i guess that's the only explanation that would still make some sense
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After this chapter I honestly prefer the manga. Rather than Trunks inexplicably being able to fight toe to toe against Black and even fused Zamasu was kind of silly.

Though I guess it depends how Toyo plans to finish it. Will Trunks pull off his moonlight great sword attack, or will something else happen? Zamasu becoming the universe and Zeno wiping that timeline out will happen since we know there are going to be 2 Zeno's in the manga from that one trailer.
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>>154747895
Mangacucks will defend this.
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>>154747893
>The gap between Black's SS and SSR isn't big at all
You're one dumb motherfucker
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>>154747859
Fuck off Toriyama SS2 isn't SS3
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>>154747814
>did he out pace the anime
Yes, but it has nothing to do with spoilers. Simple fact is, they only want to put out one chapter per magazine, and it's in a monthly magazine, so the releases are trailing behind while production is going full steam ahead.
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>>154747976
goku will probably pass the spirit bomb to trunks
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>>154747789
>Now can you stop being retarded?
Can you? He can't be injured by SSB Goku, that doesn't mean he can just kick out SSB Goku. It doesn't matter how much excuses you use.
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>>154747933
He never let Buu absorb someone you fucking retard
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>>154747671
Yeah but at the same time Vegeta has overcome the 10% rule
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>>154747895
>Toei shills reaching this hard after being BTFO with the "inconsistency" shit
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>>154747984
Animecucks still don't realize Goku did the same shit with Kaioken back on Namek.
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>>154747976
I still prefer the Anime much more.

I respect those who love the Manga but the Anime get me more excited while the Manga just feel rushed to me.

Being monthly is a mistake.
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>>154748091
>Toeicucks will deny this
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>>154748091
Toeishills are so underaged they don't even remember Namek saga.
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>>154748076
That's even worse. It just means that Toyo made it up to make him job to Hit and once that fight was over got rid of it. As a Vegetafag both the anime and manga piss me off
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>>154747796
It's like you say Goku puting on his wristband in a random chapter is "too much coincidence" because dozens of characters did it as well in dozens of mangas. This is just shitposting, isn't?
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Nice going Toyo
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>>154747791
You should continue. I don't want nigger translations.
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>>154748145
you're stupid. it still affects goku, and even if he overcomes it before the next tournament, it's still good character progression
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hi
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>>154747984
>>154747895
>>154748078
>>154748112
>>154748115

You need to be 18 to browse on 4chan.
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>Toeitrash still mad about the manga being better than the crappy anime

Isn't it enough at this point? It's getting sad, guys.
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>>154748091
Kaioken isn't transformation and it fucks up the users body so of course Goku would only use it for a split second. He did the same thing in the Saiyan Saga too. However, trying to be cool and switching between transformations looks retarded
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>>154748147
Because everyone lets himself get fucked by toryiama.
Super is badly directed in the anime and too rushed by the manga.
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>>154747284
>pickles
Is Zamasu Chris-Chan?
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>>154748218
This so much.
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>>154747998
>pre RoSaT SSB Vegeta is weaker than SS Black
>pos RoSaT SSB Vegeta is stronger than SSR Black

>not a little gap
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>>154748147
At this point using "cuck" to refer to a toeishill is in correct universe. They were originally gloating of their victory, but as soon as the chapter came out and clarifications were made their victory was stolen and given to the Toyokeks.
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Holy fuck Kamen Rider Ex-AID was insanely good again. Dragon Ball Super in 25 minutes guys.
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>>154748218
to be fair i can enjoy ntr if the art is good
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>>154748226
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>>154747921
Nah, SSB is useful.
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>>154748226
>>154745706
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>>154748150
You do realize that the reason he did that was because the ginyu force couldn't detect energy and because of how Kaioken works right? SSB isn't Kaioken and Black can sense energy so the only thing the manga accomplished is make Black look retarded
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>>154748066
His betrayal was the sole reason Buu got revived, he was underestimating the threat all along and only cared for a chance to fight Goku. That's pretty much the same.
>there is that guy who we can defeat before it gets too dangerous
>nah fuck it
And he sure didn't let Buu absorb anyone since he wasn't even alive when Buu was doing that.
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>>154743037
At this point the only reason to watch the Anime is to know some of the plot in advance for the manga, which does a much better job.
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>>154748226
He also called him "Tranks" in another page.
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>>154748189
nigga what
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>>154748284
I should probably start watching Kamen Rider Ex-AID I've heard nothing but good things about it. It comes on an hour before Dragon Ball Super right? It'll give me something else to watch whilst waiting for Dragon Ball Super.
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>>154748357
He did it to reserve stamina dipshit, it says so right in the page.
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>>154748279
Super Saiyan = 50x Base

if Base is 100000, then super Saiyan is 5000000

Add 10 000 to Base to make 110 000

Super Saiyan is 5500000

Conclusion: By just having a small increase of 10 000 the super Saiyan form is about 500 000 bigger than the rest.
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>>154748190
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>>154748357
>Toei shill reaching this hard
wew
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Episode when?
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>>154748416
Yeah Ex-AID is TV Asahi at 8am, Dragon Ball Super is TV-Tokyo at 9am.
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>>154748396
meant to quote >>154748130
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http://vaughnlive.tv/sherming7
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>>154748279
Not everything is aboit strength you fucking moron.
Rewatch the cell saga.
Black rose is just his version of ssgss means he too suffers from the big stamina drain. Vegeta has better stamina control and can therefore outspeed him during the battle which even black comments on.
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>>154748190
Hi anon, now go study for your exam!
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>>154744035
So they can watch everything they love cease to exist.
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>>154746560
autism
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>>154748280
You're not better than toeishills.

Please manga/animefags, go create your own thread and fuck off.
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So why does SSB suddenly not drain a whole bunch of stamina?
I mean Vegeta lost like 90% of his power after transforming for a few seconds and now he's transforming into it multiple times over the course of a fight and it's not causing any problems.

What's up with that?
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>>154748463

20 minutes from now.
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>>154748420
>He did it to reserve stamina dipshit
He did it because of Kaioken. Vegeta didn't know how it worked back then. When Goku came to Namek he was weak without Kaioken and he only uses it when he attacks to avoid fucking up his body. Stick to making fun of animefags because it's really obvious you didn't read the original manga.
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>>154748284
>Smugpupper watches Ex-AID

Good taste anon, good taste.
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>>154748494
he trained for one year in rosat specifically to overcome that
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>>154748488
What the fuck do you expect? They were basically shittalking in the last 2 threads constantly, I usually don't support this conflict but the BTFO is just too much for me not to laugh
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>>154748150
What the fuck are you talking about? Goku was reserving his energy, the same that Vegeta do. Isn't about your enemy's sensory capacities but your own energy.

>SSB isn't Kaioken and Black
>Kaioken
Who's talking about Kaioken?
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>>154748533
goku's power level was 60.000 in namek though, even without the kaioken. even without using the kaioken, he was still only showing them 5.000
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>>154747108
hhhnnngggggg
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>>154748432
I know, so...
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>>154748453
>>154748533
Holy shit I can't believe Superfags who never read or watched the original exist. Do yourselves a favor and read the original because unlike Super it's actually pretty good
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>>154748533
You have no clue what the actual fuck you are talking about.
The very same page linked above clearly states Goku is squeezing and rationing every bit of stamina.
The stamina drain of SSB is a similar concept and it's logical to only use it sparingly for brief moments.
You can shut the fuck up now because you're rambling at this point.
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>>154748542
>he trained for one year in rosat specifically to overcome that
Please tell me that isn't what he went with.
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>>154748599
Goku was 90.000 when he goes kaioken against ginyu he has a powerlevel of 180.000
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>>154748547
I don't care, winning an argument on the Internet isn't something to be proud.

Those who shit on the Anime everytime

Those who shit on the Manga everytime

What does it bring to you?

Create your own thread.
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>>154748644
The difference could be easily overcome. If the Base power increases even by a little, then the strength a transformation provides is even more tremendous
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>>154748542
>he trained for one year in rosat specifically to overcome that
I hate it how Super retconned it. It's one of the worse things in Super
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>>154748677
This.

Please do so.
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>>154748599
Lowering your power level isn't a transformation
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>>154748478
If the gap is the same, SSR Black is thousands times stronger than SS Black, even with the stamina drain would be able to destroy a SSB Vegeta without stamina problems
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So basically the reason SSB becomes so weak is because of it's immense stamina drain, so flickering actually costs less stamina
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>>154748675
he was using kaioken x2, no? iirc he first powers up to 120.000 (kaioken), but that's only even to ginyu. so he uses another (kaioken x2) and shows him how much stronger he is
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>>154748542
Didn't he train in there with Goku for the tournament?
Goku who also understood and overcame the drain before fighting Hit?
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>>154748646
The Super manga is way better than the original. Toyotaro took something that was overrated shit and made it good. Kill yourself
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>>154748677
Fuck off centrist.
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>>154748783
Nice falsefagging
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>>154748668
>Please tell me that Vegeta didn't essentially do another form of training for a specific form to minimize energy loss just like Goku and Gohan did in the Cell Games for similar results, that would be totally unprecedented and not at all logical
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>>154748748
>even with the stamina drain would be able to destroy a SSB Vegeta without stamina problems
As you can see he can't. Also vegeta was one year in rosat and also improved in strength
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>>154748773
Wait what the fuck I thought Kaioken was Kaiokenx2?
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>>154748781
goku did not overcome the drain before fighting hit, which is why he first turned ssg in that fight
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>>154748757
Yes and flickering only works because Red is stable access to God Ki.
You wouldn't be able to flicker from Ningen base into a Blue rapidly.
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>>154748679
That still not enough unless post RoSaT is thousands times stronger than pre RoSaT Vegeta.
Just think about it, what you're saying it's like you say Vegeta just trained and his SS form is SSB tier now, is fucking stupid.
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>>154743216
What. Vegeta went SSG for real?
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>>154748773
No? Read the manga it was a simple kaioken that puts him to 180.000 straight
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>>154748803
I'm not. The original was full of asspulls and inconsistent nonsense while Toyotaro's dragonball has none of that. It's funny that people like you exist who rate the original higher because of nostalgia
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>>154748677
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>>154748848
yes
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>>154748819
No, there is a first level kaioken. I don't even know how much the first one increases, it's probably 1.5 stronger probably
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>>154748814
>As you can see he can't.
Because the gap isn't the same, thank you.

>Also vegeta was one year in rosat and also improved in strength
So his SS form is god tier now?
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>>154748808
Anon, he trained in there for three years with Goku using Blue before the tournament he should have at least figured out the drain the form puts on him in the first month let alone the entire duration.

Toyble needs to work on his writing instead of just going "lol training".
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>>154748892
Really I feel really stupid now
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>>154748494
You can fucking read the chapter
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>>154748874
The dynamic Tori/Toyo duo is great but the original actually has far superior action sequences and panelling that Toyo can only merely replicate.
Toriyama was truly a legend and you shouldn't under sell just how legendary he was setting the bar back in the day.
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>>154748892
each kaioken adds his power level.

if he's at 90000, kaioken makes him 180000
kaiokenx2 = 27000
kaiokenx10 = 990000
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>>154748961
see >>154748931
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>>154748931
Well, in the manga most likely he thought Hit wouldn't be much of a problem even with just a fraction of Blue power
>>
STREAM HERE

http://joowz.org
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>>154748970
*270000
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>>154749019
LOL this is Capicoli's website. I remember when Robin Williams died, he started spamming /v/ telling people to come to his shitty website to watch some Robin Williams movies. He literally tried capitalizing off the death of someone infinitely more talented than him. I've watched Cap stream once or twice and it's literally like watching synchtube. The other streamers at least provide something original and worthwhile and not just the most popular meme videos at the time. Guys like Fuzz and Namefag don't get the credit because that self-centered dickweed Cap always makes it so the site is automatically directed to his awful Madden streams. The guy has a huge ego for owning such an awful site with 40 viewers. He's a scumbag stoner who thinks he's hot shit and a genius. "4chan made me smarter" lol this guy is a fucking clown
>>
This is so much better than the anime. I have hopes for vegitto
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>>154748494
Going from Ningen to Blue is taxing.
Going from a stable God form into God+SSJ (Blue) isn't
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>>154749019

remove /v/ cancer
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>>154748435
At least he has his bang back.
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>>154746914
Adding Marron was a nice touch
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>>154748931
He thought using a 10% of SSB was enough to defeat Hit, but didn't know about the timeskip technique
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post non-cancer streams
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>>154748481
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>>154748966
Yeah no Toriyama realized Toyo was way better than him and fucked off
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>>154748819
>>154748892
Kaioken is a direct multiplier with the first one multiplying it by 2 then 3 and so on.
So Kaioken on it's own is a x2 multiplier.

Kaioken x2 is a regular tori mistake because it does exactly the same thing a vanilla Kaioken does.
>>
sherming1+1+1+1+1+1+1
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>>154748986
It's basically the same in the Anime though.

Vegeta just get stronger to beat black.

Didn't see any difference in this chapter.
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>>154748970
Kaioken multiplies his power
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>>154748922
>Because the gap isn't the same, thank you.
No because rose is affecting his stamina and limiting him during combat. Learn to read I dont want to repeat myself.
>So his SS form is god tier now?
Again no. Just means vegeta find a form that makes him better suit for combat and is therefore outclassing black.
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>>154749145
http://mov3.co/en/fujitv/
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shut up about power levels the anime is almost starting. WE GOT TO SEE OUR WARRIOR OF JUSTICE BEAT THE MENACE
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http://vaughnlive.tv/sherming7
stream
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>>154743037
true kino
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>>154749065
>>154749143
None of this was actually said in the manga though so it's just conjecture from the fans.
Toyble is pretty much just Toriyama 2.0 isn't he.
>>
Someone prepare an episode thread, we're approaching the bump limit
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>>154748931
It was way worse in the anime since it was training without any logic or reason about what weakness to improve. He just goes in and randomly improves even after establishing that 3 years didn't help much previously before the U6 tournament.
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>>154747628
>>154747929
Mai can't stand watching her Trunks in danger.
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>>154748931
>if he didn't realize before, he can't do it now!
Keep crying
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>>154749289
monsta hunta just ended. it's time
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>>154749153
Nah, Toriyama outright stated in an interview that Toyo's art is on point, but he still needs to work on his paneling.
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>>154749192
Thing is, in the anime he had a direct power increase.
In the manga it's just him transforming to Blue and quickly going back to God to somehow get around the stamina drain of transforming into Blue despite the fact that the multiple changes should be draining him even faster than transforming once for a few seconds.

It's made even worse given that Toyble already sealed them into a slow growth pattern by saying they were just about at their peak.
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>>154743037
Is this good? I love Dragonball up until Majin Buu saga
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>This chapter
All of that Vegeta wanking. I guess Toyo knows his reader base are Vegetafags who stopping watching the anime because of SSBKK
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>>154749246
>Here you go reddit, go report it xD!
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It's literally in the chapter about how God is stable and we can use past events like Vegeta vs hit for the rest.something about blue is off though. Vegeta and Goku never took this long to fix stamina drain with any transformation other than ssj3
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NEW EPISODE NOWWWWWW
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IT STARTING
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>>154749373
fuck off kid
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>Kamehameha Ball
kek
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>>154749341
He's jealous cunt like Miyazaki then
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>>154749394
>It's literally in the chapter about how God is stable
It's also in the manga that SSB takes a huge toll on the user literally just transforming. Going down to god doesn't change that going Blue should be fucking over Vegeta hard.
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>>154749240
>Learn to read
I already readed but your shit makes no sense.

You are saying that a guy weaker than [SS guy] can train for a year and surpass [same guy but SSGSS now] because stamina problem (also the guy didn't even realize the problem during the whole fight). It's fucking stupid just stop posting.
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>>154749381
I'm genuinely surprised given how he cucked Vegeta hard in the last arc.
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TRUUUUEEEE KINO
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>>154743037
New thread with Lorax in the OP or Vegeta again or something gogo.
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Goku: "If I'm evil...then does that make you a champion of justice?"
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>>154749548
Coin toss it dude.
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if toyofags hate toei so much why you fags watch the new ep then
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>>154747646
I'M ACTUALLY CRYING

MANGAFAGS BTFO
CANONFAGS BTFO
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>>154749601
mangafags and animefags don't actually exist. It's just shitposters trying to ruin threads
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>>154749548
Lorax
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>>154749601
how else would they know that the anime is shit?
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>>154749623
>>154749623
>>154749623
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>>154749642
Word
Both are pretty terrible in the writing department. Most of us are just here for the fights and screaming.
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>>154749642
FUCKING THIS
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>>154749642
This desu.
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>>154743235
Holy shit, where did you get that?!
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>>154749485
One year worth of training is a lot and yes said guy didnt know the problem because he just achieved rose not too long ago . How retarded are you? Use some logic
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>>154745591
Isn't that for the Fusion Dance? The Potara doesn't have that drawback, remember that it fused the Old Kai(who's still a Kai) and a witch(who probably doesn't have much power).
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>>154750513
>One year worth of training is a lot
Not enough to go thousands times stronger you literal retard.

>guy didnt know the problem because he just achieved rose not too long ago
He watched the tournament in GodTube.

>How retarded are you?
Sorry do you want to be my master? You are the biggest one here so I'll be fine.
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>>154750513
>One year worth of training is a lot
Problem is that he had 3 years before that and still didn't come to that conclusion.
Plus he and Goku are at peak power according to Toyble so he shouldn't become that much stronger over the course of a year, especially on his own.

>and yes said guy didnt know the problem because he just achieved rose not too long ago
Problem with that logic is that originally the stamina problem was from transforming in quick succession.
Black transformed once and stayed like that, he should be relatively fine regarless with how inexperienced he is with the form itself.

Logically Vegeta should have had his ass handed to him.
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>>154746341
>tfw Vegeta's rage was best in Ocean Dub
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CH4k_URq4o
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>>154751689
Does anybody know where i can see the Uncut Ocean Dub version of the 1st three movies?

Everywhere i look, its only the Funi redubs.
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>>154750848
>Not enough to go thousands times stronger you literal retard.

You say that as if that didn't happen before in this series.
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>>154752102
Not alone it hasn't and in the manga Toyble already made it clear that they're at their peak.
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>>154746341
>salty
I cringed so much at that part.
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>>154746356
>liking niggerstream version
kek'd
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