SSG is love, SSG is life.
>perfect control of his godly forms (SSG's balance and SSB's strength)
>1 year of advantage in RoSaT
I guess Vegeta is the alpha one now
>they reveal that those who participated in the ritual have been exposed to God Ki and can train to unlock it for themselves.
How would this make you feel?
People need to understand that Vegeta's red to blue transformations do make sense.
If Vegeta went to base form and blue it would have been a clusterfuck, but he's going from God to Blue. God already uses god ki, Blue is just using super saiyan on top of it so the energy consumption this time must be the same as transforming into a super saiyan which is not much now.
We require Dog Ki Goddo from and other God Ki utilizations from other Universes to keep Goku and Vegeta on their toes in the next upcoming arc. Not Gohan or the U9 faggots though they can get punted off the edge for all I care.
Vegeta going blue in a fraction of a second would make it look like Black was getting owned by Vegeta in god form. Not only would this be an extreme insult to Black, but it would exaggerate the power difference.
They basically forced them to fuse by making them look weaker than they realise
So what's the current meme going on with Super now and why is Super Saiyan God getting posted a lot?
>it would exaggerate the power difference
Except SSG and SSB power were supposed to be pretty similar since RoF also Vegeta use SSB to attack Black, literally the same as use SSB the whole time but isn't so expensive with the drain.
That's Vegeta beating Black with his SSB strenght, as happened in the anime. Now stay mad, toeishill.
Reminder that Goku's name is "Gokou"
Beerus is "Beers"
Buu is "Boo"
Mr. Satan real name is "Mark"
17 and 18 names are "Lapis" and "Lazuli"
and nobody knows Turtle Hermit's name, same about his sister
It's going to happen eventually. If SSJ3 Bejita exists in games, then you can be sure that Bandai are not going to stop milking the transformation train, regardless of whether they care about anime / manga canon or whether it exists or not.
Hell they probably don't even know it's happened in the manga they're just going to add it as DLC because sales figures.
Reminder that Goku is fucked
>Lorax is called "Toppo" from "pot"
>Ayy is called "Jiren" from "range"
>Pride Troopers names come from items used to cook up vegetables because they will tear the saiyans apart
>Toppo also comes from "Rosso di Toppo" wine because Lorax will become Hakaishin at the end of the arc
I want to see Ayy Lmao in action so bad
Fuck sake. These stupid discussions are the manga fans fault.
They all hated Vegetto in the anime, mark my fucking words, if he is in the manga, everyone suddenly likes him in this arc.
Just make your OWN thread and go there to "proof" why the manga is better.
People hated Vegetto in the anime because of the stupid "oh it's only an hour between two ningen" and then the "oh but if you use too much power, it becomes ten minutes." garbage.
>this NOT ONLY would this be AN EXTREME INSULT to Black, but it would exaggerate the power difference! They basically forced ....!
Yeah sounds like an actual autist or just a toeishill
Go fuck (You)rself it was very good but nothing will ever surpass candy beating
>sharing my theory on why Vegeta is going god
>actually like the manga better than the anime
>some random anon calls me toeishill
Be real proud of yourself anon
Kindof yeah, search for the term レンジ in google image search. It does translate as "Range" but the term is generally applied to electrical cooking appliances, so electric stoves, electric rice cookers, electric microwave ovens you get the idea.
You could say that Jiren is
>one sided beatdown that lasted too long
Vegetto vs Zamasu showed cockiness , a back to back fight and a villain character development
Buu was trash for the most part
This is just stupid. We had a Tournament that Universe 7 DID WON, fair and square. Nobody can deny that. Even Zeno sama saw it.
Then, we get this bullshit, that Universe 6 is stronger?
> I blame Toei for that
I honestly find it weird how toeifags call the manga inconsistencies out, when the anime was just as ridiculous. I can't see Black going from SSJ2 to SSB levels because of a beating by Goku
I don't think the final db anime is going to end on a tournament arc but maybe I'm wrong
I want to Goku and Vegeta decide to kick the shit out of this guy at the same time, and then I want to see
him win against both of them despite the odds, and then he goes and hugs Pan. Smugpup is amazing..
>Yeaaah Vegetto Blue
>Oh shit there's no reason why Vegetto Blue wouldn't absolutely demolish Merged Zamasu, and that would mean Trunks wouldn't get to save the day with his spirit sword. ABORT. ABORT.
I would ask you to do that to yourself but Smugpup-senpai would disapprove of that, so I am simply going to wish you a good day and hope you continue having a nice time here on DBS general.
We'll eventually get Jiren, Toppo and all the other new characters in Xenoverse 2 via DLC, and if not, we can expect them to appear in Xenoverse 3.
Bandai won't let this opportunity slip I can assure you.
mah candy bullet through the head!
don't do this character development whining all the time. Zamasu breaking down and the whole "tears for the world" is good and all but pls SUPPA GHOST KAMEKAZI ATTACK>all
Well to be fair, Gohan despite being stronger than Buu at the time, managed to fail spectacularly and get his friends and himself absorbed whilst missing a simple catch of an earring from his dad.
Buu then inherited Gohan's amazing ability to job and lost to a ball of candy,
Legacy of Gohan.
Hopefully Toyo realises that a mini Vegito arc would be cool
Wouldn't actually mind it if he actually weakens Zamasu to a point where Trunks could beat him, and allows Trunks to beat him
That reminds me...
New Kaioshin names come from here
U1 Kaioshin - Anat (theorized as "Anato", confirmed as "Anat" in Toei's website urls)
U3 Kaioshin - Ea (incorrectly romanized in Toei's website urls as "Air")
U4 Kaioshin - Kuru (incorrectly romanized in Toei's website urls as "Clue")
U5 Kaioshin - Ogma (theorized as "Oguma", confirmed as "Ogma" in Toei's website urls)
Goku, Vegeta and Gohan fans tell other people to go kill themselves for supporting their favorite characters. Smugpup fans mean no harm and only wish to fight the good fight.
Does this translate to the actual characters in Dragon Ball. Are Saiyans really the true evil and destructive force threatening the multiverse? Will Smugpup save us all?
Well at least he didn't miss
Fat buu: CANDY AND DESTRUCTION BUT SATAN TOLD ME THAT DESTRUCTION WAS BAD SO NO MORE
Super Buu: CANDY CANDY, KILLING AND DESTRUCTION
Gotenks/Piccolo/Gohan Buu: I'm the strongest, oh yeah I'm going to destroy everything
Kid Buu: DESTRUCTION WOOOOOO
Piccolo is a particularly weak villain in retrospect, although piccolo day is fun and just the fact that he just released all the criminals.
Freeza was always interesting to me because he had an interesting powerset and was one of the first major villains to have multiple forms.
But beyond that Freeza works as a great parallel for goku, who had to work to become as strong as he is, Freeza was just ALWAYS strong. They have a nice back and forth with freeza so sure of his abilities and Goku reveling in how fun it is to fight someone as strong as Freeza. It wasn't until Freeza's on the ropes that he loses that composure.
Cell, while my (former) least favorite dragonball villain, started as a horrifying monster that gained power through killing and absorbing people. Once achieving his power, he then creates a tournament simply to further his own ego. While he feels more or less like a retread of Piccolo there's a kind of charm in how he goes about business.
Buu is just fun. HE's probably one of my favorite dragonball villains in general because he's basically just...Evil Arale. Even Super Buu, while evil, just wants to fight people and have fun. He's silly, wacky and is probably the most gag heavy villain since the pilaf gang.
Zamasu by comparison is FAR too preachy. Freeza has this condescending nature about him but it's mostly him feigning politeness before kicking your shit in.
Cell has a bravado certainly, but it's mostly boasting about his own power
Zamasu is constantly talking about how mortals are gross. How mortals are scum. How He's doing the universe a favor and while he's not the first hypocritical villain, he's certainly the most preachy about it. That coupled with the fact that he takes SOOOO LONG to beat and the fact that all the fights are in a boring burning landscape make him really really uninteresting to me.
Zamasu feels like a fan character made by someone who doesn't quite get what makes a villain memorable or entertaining.
But I do, Why are you being so angry at other anons who want to share their posts with us?
Did gohan hit the floor again?
The way I feel about SSG Vegeta is the same way I feel about SS3 Vegeta.
Absolutely no need for it, but neat I guess.
It's simply because he sees himself as a divine messiah, but is so objectively wrong that he seems crazy and ultra preachy. We've never really had a villain with a god complex like this
>Fat buu: CANDY AND DESTRUCTION BUT SATAN TOLD ME THAT DESTRUCTION WAS BAD SO NO MORE
Zamasu: NINGEN AND DESTRUCTION BUT GOWASU TOLD ME THAT DESTRUCTION WAS BAD BUT I WON'T STOP
See, I can do that too, not an argument
>Goku mistakenly takes Roshi's hostess bar discount card instead of the Mafuba seal.
At least he didn't forget the seal, he didn't know how it looked like, I guess
Still a shit excuse
> Goku mistakenly takes Roshi's hostess bar discount card instead of the Mafuba seal.
So much for Manga!Goku not being a retard...
At least in the anime, it was also partly Roshi's fault
I mean that it's pointless to use when you have SSB.
ALSO this means Vegeta did the SSG Ritual. I can never see him voluntarily ask for borrowed power...not to mention holding hands.
Unless of course if Beerus is crashing your party.
>I mean that it's pointless to use when you have SSB.
Then you must read the manga again. SSB is a stronger, but SSG is more balanced, so control both forms makes of you a more versatile fighter.
>ALSO this means Vegeta did the SSG Ritual.
Nobody said you can't be properly trained to go SSG (and Vegeta was trained by Whis itself)
This is the same shit when RoF arrived and SSB Vegeta appeared, everyone talked about the ritual but it wasn't necessary at all
SSG and SSB power are pretty similar, so SSG Vegeta post RoSaT is clearly stronger than SSB Vegeta pre RoSaT, also Vegeta is attacking using his SSB (which is obviously stronger than before as well)
>Then you must read the manga again
Unless there is something else I missed?
> Nobody said you can't be properly trained to go SSG
Nobody said you COULD. SSG was supposed to be a ritual-induced transformation.
Sure maybe they keep the form after the ritual (manga-only), but the ritual is still necessary.
>How do you confuse a Mufaba Seal with a Hooters Card?
>Nobody said you COULD
So... Vegeta can just learn how to go SSGSS... but not to go SSG? Just because you can go SSG by other way as well? Obtain the same form via different way isn't new (SS by rage or genetics if you're Goten/Trunks or SS2 by training or rage if you're future Trunks or Gohan)
as strong as the people in charge want him to be
How much better would DBS be if it featured Lava Goku using the Blaze Kamehameha, a very, very, catastrophic Kamehameha wave. It's so intense that it can go up to 140,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 degrees fahrenheit. It can burn a black hole easily.
>Uses SSG and turns SSB the moment he attacks
I guess having a giant forehead was useful after all.
I also grew up with mortal kombat (played the shit out of Mortal Kombat 2 on the SNES as a kid) and was obsessed with graphical violence back then, but as I grew up I kinda got bored of it. Ironic.
Toyo ripped off Dragon Ball Multiverse with the "only using SSB the instant he attacks" thing
Also, Toeishills are annoying me again. They're saying Toyo is fanfiction, acting like the anime isn't. I mean of course the anime isn't, with such gems as Super Saiyan Rage, SSB Kaioken x10, and the Spirit Bomb Light Sword!
>Toyo ripped off Dragon Ball Multiverse with the "only using SSB the instant he attacks" thing
Stop being retarded.
Well at least it got the tags right this time. Some of them disturbingly accurate like TEAM EVENT.
How the fuck do you even manage to get that.
Even being in a hurry, I don't see how anyone can confuse a seal with a gift card?
I mean I guess mistakes happened, but so many people gave Goku shit in the anime when it wasn't as bad as a mistake
Stop being a pathetic fanboy. That image isn't the same thing
In DBM, to counter the slowness of SS Grade 3, Trunks fought as a SSJ and transformed only to do huge attacks, then he'd transform back into SSJ
It's exactly what SSG Vegeta is doing.
>browsing youtube because bored
>see usual flood of dragonball clickbaity shit because I watched 2 clips of a Cell fight 8 years ago
Okay now is this true?
If Vegeta is really gonna get SSJG in the manga I'm about to drop Toyotaro outright because that's retarded.
That's like Goku powering up against Buu and turning back into a SSJ1.
We still don't know how that card looks like, maybe it looks a lot like the seal.
Also the problem with the anime was that Goku kept forgetting things (the senzu, the jar inside the time machine and the seal), so people got understandably annoyed.
>They're saying Toyo is fanfiction, acting like the anime isn't. I mean of course the anime isn't, with such gems as Super Saiyan Rage, SSB Kaioken x10, and the Spirit Bomb Light Sword!
Neither are fanfiction ya retard.
DB has always been basically two continuities of one main verse.
In Z the mingling was greater, but in Super they've diverged much more clearly.
>Obtain the same form via different way isn't new
True but a new/different way to transform is pretty significant...and only being in the manga means it's a Toyo addition.
That's like DBZ coming up with a new/different way to become SS2, but only released in a OVA
It's true, but there is a catch to all of this
He's not actually hitting him in SSG, rather before he hits Black he turns Blue for a fraction of a second, thus making it seem like Black is getting his asskicked by a weaker form no less. By the way if you think the 10% shit applies, it doesn't as Vegeta is already using god power. He's probably not expending much energy when he transforms from Red to Blue
>That's like Goku powering up and turning back into a SSJ1.
Nice bait anyway, almost got me
>Attack foe then transform into your peak power when you hit them
Thats actually pretty smart because if fools your opponent into guarding against your weaker state then you oneshot them in your stronger form.
Is there something in the chapter explaining how going from God to Blue repeatedly doesn't invoke the 10 % thing, or do we have to settle for the "he's already using god ki so it doesn't count" headcanon?
He's not actually hitting him in SSG, rather before he hits Black he turns Blue for a fraction of a second, thus making it seem like Black is getting his asskicked by a weaker form no less
>he's transforming super-duper fast and tricking him
Wew that's fucking retarded
It was pointless to give him the form in the first place but to add such a retarded catch that makes Black look like a super-retard is double-retarded.
It's not every day that fucking TOEI manages to implement something more reasonable and sensible than you.
It wasn't bait though, did you not understand the Buu example, and how it differs from Beerus' situation?
> mfw SS Black and SSG Vegeta will never show up in the main DB Video Games
And all the games/spin-offs will have Black with his anime personality
>Instead of going super saiyan blue like usual vegeta gies ssjg and goes ssj blue for a fraction of a second when he attacks
Retard explanation coming in, but perhaps it's kind of like HIIT.
As in, SSB is sprinting, and if you keep doing that, sure you might recover your breath a bit in 30 seconds after nothing but a good sprint but you won't be able to do it as hard as you did before.
Whereas using SSG then SSB briefly is like a 30 second jog and a 15 second sprint so it doesn't invoke the 10% thing.
Who fucking knows, what am i even saying.
Anime Black is the best Black after all.
Not really, I just understand it's smart to protect the villains of an arc and not have them look like dipshits.
Like, if Goku turned SSJ for a split-second fighting Frieza each time, he'd just look like a goof.
Plus, it's a stupid move anyway, from a purely narrative standpoint. So going to lengths to rationalize it that simply aren't worth it is doubly stupid.
Translation: I got nada, senor.
Is Lava Goku a Sayan Form or a separate transformation?
Could we call it Super Sayan Lava? Could Vegeta achieve Lava Vegeta and use Gallick Blaze? Or is it a form achievable by any ki fighter?
Leave with your bait. We are not fishes for you to catch
There is no awesome in begin Shin.
>means it's a Toyo addition
Mario Kart scene was Toyo addition too, what's wrong with it?
Also isn't an actual Toyo addition. In the movies "beyond god" was nothing but SSG in base form (that's why their new SS forms were called "SSGSS") but in the manga SSG just sticks. Vegeta obtained beyond god form and people thought about if Vegeta went through the ritual when RoF arrived but he didn't, he trained with Whis. It's exactly what happens in the manga but using SSG instead Beyond god
>SSG Goku and Vegeta
/OUR GUY/ saves DB once again
Tenshinhan is best human
Because they needed moves for him so they looked up the manga.
Bamco has agreements with Toei, not with Toyotaro. The manga doesn't matter to them unless they really need to scrounge up stuff, and they gain more by pushing the anime since manga is a dying industry.
Now I'm glad Goku has his Buu arc outfit during the Black Arc
SSG looks better with that.
>Toriyama-Sensei! How would you like your manga?
>JUSTU FUCK MY SHITTU UP, FAMMU~~~~~~~
Really extensive hiring process.
>>jobgeta gets the designated jobbing form
I know right? SSB is a piece of shit
SSG is here to save the day
>tfw canon Gogeta is just Vegito with metamor clothes
The highest I got with my Buu pictures was 6.1%
You Toeishills are ridiculous
I just saw some fuck on Kanzenshuu claiming Super Saiyan Rage and Spirit Bomb Lightsword were genius, creative, and amazing
The fuck is wrong with this fanbase?
>SSG returning is fanfiction tier!!!! But the anime does nothing wrong!!!!
I hate this fanbase.
>Mario Kart scene was Toyo addition too, what's wrong with it?
Nothing was wrong with that. It was actually pretty fun.
But I'm talking about a new way to transform which is much more significant than a slice of life scene.
Also the manga never showed Vegeta achieving SSG with Whis or even mentioning it at all. We were left to believe that it is a form that has to be initially obtain by ritual.
Anime explained Goku/Vegeta getting SSB by intense training with Whis while keeping their ki from "leaking".
But now we have to assume that Manga!Vegeta obtained SSG a way that was never shown previously?
It's probably not that big of a deal since it's manga-exclusive, but eh whatever
Uploaded the image myself to see if it was bullshit.
It seems to really like smugpup.
>People from Kanzenshuu and Toeishills have the same opinions
Makes you think
It's a "Toyocucks learn their place" episode
Why is everyone losing their shit with SSG Vegeta?
Don't you need that form first to get SSB?
>In the next exciting DBS chapter, Goku mistakenly takes Roshi's hostess bar discount card instead of the Mafuba seal. Also, Vegeta goes SSG.
>A FUCKING HOSTESS BAR DISCOUNT CARD
>tfw too intelligent to read the manga
I'm gonna start a GoFundMe page to help toyocucks cope
This is simply too far
I would've preferred if Goku just forgot and Roshi forgot to remind him, like in the anime.
Remember how much shit Toyobros gave him for that?
Now Goku confused an ancient seal with a pervy gift card
Then why introducing a god form via ritual if there's a stronger god form that you can get with training?
I'm so fucking done
Just so fucking done
The internet is over
All my Buu pictures are anime. I think that was the problem.
>created by ningen
>that No people tag
ningen still butthurt about One True God
and it hates goku,goten very much and is on the fence about GohanxGround (50.1%)
>See my dick
>Vegeta is there masturbating me
>But I'm talking about a new way to transform which is much more significant than a slice of life scene.
Still the same. Toriyama does the outline and Toyotaro fill it, and is this combo what makes the DBS manga.
>Also the manga never showed Vegeta achieving SSG
And movie never showed Vegeta achieving saiyan beyond god or the blue god, he just appears and you must guess "well he trained with Whis so makes sense".
>Anime explained Goku/Vegeta getting SSB by intense training with Whis while keeping their ki from "leaking".
Details about how to use god ki aren't in the movies or the manga, they just become gods via ritual once and then they can do it at will after be trained by Whis. In the movies this happened with SSG and beyond god (its substitute), manga just sticks with SSG.
>But now we have to assume that Manga!Vegeta obtained SSG a way that was never shown previously?
I alread said it, this is exactly what happened with Vegeta's beyond god state.
Toeishills *******THIS******* desperate to prove us chads wrong.
>Still the same. Toriyama does the outline and Toyotaro fill it, and is this combo what makes the DBS manga.
I know that. Anime does this too but replace Toyo with Toei.
But SSG Vegeta (or SSG Goku vs Hit for that matter) clearly wasn't in Toriyama's outline.
I thought Toyo/Toei filling-in info wouldn't affect anything this drastic, to the point where not only does an outdated form return but has a new way of activating it.
> Beyond God
When was this form ever confirmed outside DB Wiki?
I feel like vegeta sounds off compared to how he used to sound. also beerus and whis sound awful
>But SSG Vegeta (or SSG Goku vs Hit for that matter) clearly wasn't in Toriyama's outline.
>an outdated form return
Well, SSG isn't outdated at all as you can see in the manga. The issue is both SSG and SSB works together.
>a new way of activating it
Again, Vegeta becoming a god (not only a SSGSS, but a SSG in base form) is from Toriyama movies.
>When was this form ever confirmed outside DB Wiki?
Well, the name comes from DBH but is only used for convenience (as some people actually use "quake of fury" for Rageta rage boost). But Goku and Vegeta regular forms being "SSG in base" forms still comes from Toriyama itself, that's the point of SSGSS's name.
base Goku/Vegeta = SSG
SS Goku/Vegeta = SSGSS
But Toriyama changed his mind and wanted back to regular SS form (SS2 and SS3 as well). This make anime confusing because every form is powered up by god ki and nobody knows how strong they are anymore, manga instead, mixt both things, they trained for control god ki (aka go SSG and SSB at will) but they still can use their regular (non godly at all) forms.
what are the chances that since Toei clearly mistook Toppo for Jiren (probably until Toriyama saw it and asked them to check themselves), that Jiren isn't even all that special and they animated the OP with the whole "toppo wants to get rid of goku" in mind while thinking that Jiren is named Toppo?
probably means Jiren aint shit
Meaning transforming into SSG without ever needing the SSG Ritual is not from Toriyama
> is from Toriyama movies
Not it's not. Not at all. Where in the movies is there SSG Vegeta or at the very least even a mention of it?
> the name comes from DBH
You know DBH is as canon as Garlic Jr right? Maybe even less canon if that's even possible.
> But Goku and Vegeta regular forms being "SSG in base"
You can't simultaneously believe that Base Manga!Goku/Vegeta = SSG when Manga!Goku/Vegeta transform into SSG.
This implies that Base = SSG and there is literally no need to transform into SSG
Except mangafags were harping on for months about how Toei was ruining Goku but the manga was staying true to the character.
Turns out both are portraying him as a retard. Reality is, the manga is just as dogshit as the anime, sometimes even more so.
>But Toriyama changed his mind and wanted back to regular SS form (SS2 and SS3 as well)
Toriyama never said he wanted to get rid of the other SS forms, just that Goku wouldn't want to use it as often because he can get stronger without them
Big difference anon
>Except mangafags were harping on for months about how Toei was ruining Goku but the manga was staying true to the character.
Because that's true, so?
>manga-Goku is a retarded because made a mistake
Huh sure whatever you say
> SS Black humiliates SSB Vegeta in the manga
> Vegeta returns, becomes SSG
> SS Rose Black is scared
What the fuck Toyo
Looks like Shida's style, I like it
wow the way the manga is handling this arc is so much fucking better than the bullshit toei gave us
>after vegeta trains there are no more powerups for goku black i.e. vegeta is simply stronger and that makes black and zamasu nervous as hell
>after mafuuba fails they fuse with zamasu being mad as fuck at black for thinking ningen power was enough
>zamasu getting his shit pushed in by SSG goku
>trunks just watching
this is so much fucking better its unreal how toei could possibly fuck something up this bad
that is no puppy
go away liar before I call you know who
>>we should wait for an explanation but in the meantime my headcanon is right
>Just admit my headcanon is right
Bulma going to the future was a Toei invention. Bulma trying to seduce Zamasu was a Toei invention
All of Trunks asspulls were Toei inventions
Yet somehow, Toeishills will still claim that the manga is fanfiction
DBfags in general are retarded. Look at how these threads have turned into 95%
You have to be a retarded shit flinging man child to just keep doing this shit.
If Goku hadn't fucked up in the Anime or the Manga, F.Trunks' timeline would still exist.
Or maybe it was intentional.
Maybe Goku knew, he knew he had the Zeno button, he knew Zeno could destroy Universes, he just wanted an excuse to pull it out and make Trunks suffer.
He's jealous that Trunks is better than his own son. He's jealous that Vegeta is a better father. He's jealous that both of them could become stronger than him when he wants to become the strongest guy and continue fighting stronger guys that aren't Vegeta or Trunks.
Wow... Goku is a conniving shit.
>Goku never fought Goku Black in the manga
This is some dumb shit right here.
And Tori gave him the ok so I don't really care about fans' opinions
>anyone becoming stronger than goku when he has kaioken
>Meaning transforming into SSG without ever needing the SSG Ritual is not from Toriyama
>Where in the movies is there SSG Vegeta
I didn't say "SSG Vegeta" but "Vegeta becoming a god" (not only talking about SSB). Movies have two gods Vegeta (beyond god and SSB) and manga two gods as well (SSG and SSB).
>You know DBH is as canon as Garlic Jr right?
I know, that's why I said we only use the name for convenience. What about your reading comprehesion?
>You can't simultaneously believe that Base Manga!Goku/Vegeta = SSG when Manga!Goku/Vegeta transform into SSG.
Good, because I don't believe such a thing, your reading comprehesion is been a pain in the ass again. SSG in base replacing actual SSG is from the movies, and just SSG is from the manga.
>old continuity (anime movies)
>Goku and Vegeta regular forms are SSG in base forms now (they also can go SSGSS)
>new continuity (manga series)
>Goku and Vegeta can go from base to SSG at will now (they also can go SSGSS)
Movies used "beyond god" and manga series keeps using actual SSG, but the issue is that Vegeta having SSG's power is part of Toriyama story, Vegeta having SSG's power after a year of training with Whis is Toriyama's
Hey smugpupfag have you thought of doing a sidestory about smugpup using this design? I've grown really attached to your portrayal, even if it's meant to be a joke, of this character.
But anon it doesnt count because Vegeta is switching between god forms even though what Vegeta did condradicts what happened during Vegeta vs Hit. Seriously the rule is that you can only use 10% of SSB's power if you transform again in a short period of time which is what Vegeta was doing. Holy shit how can people be so dense
Vegeta uses SSB to attack, anon. This is SSB Vegeta vs SSR Black again (as it was in the anime) except that Vegeta switches between SSG and SSB (which make him more efficient)
Last time he ignored King Kai he went from nearly dying to Kaioken×4 to being able to use Kaioken×20. Vegeta can only be a jobber in the anime now that Goku can spam Kaioken again
Are you stupid? Manga Goku isn't any better and Toyo has no qualms whatsoever with making Goku look like a dumbasss.
This isn't either Toyo or Toei's fault. If it happens in both versions, that means it's something Toriyama did.
>Manga Goku isn't any better
Kek, you people are fucking pathetic. Both the manga and anime are shit. And you acting like one is better than the other just proves how fucking far the standards of this fanbase have fallen.
why should everybody agree with your opinion?
I have enjoyed Super both the animu and mango also no the memes are not the only thing enjoyable thing about that saga
RoF is a turd for the most part though
I hate this fucking fanbase. Can't even properly discuss a manga chapter because you faggots have an agenda to prove a side wrong
Is there any forum out there that doesn't have this bullshit?
- Vegeta having SSG with no absolutely zero mention of him doing the SSG Ritual
- SSG Vegeta beating SSR Black...after SSB Vegeta got beaten by SS Black. I know he trained but that power jump is beyond ridiculous.
- Goku using the Mafuba instead of Trunks/Mai because Toyo prefers it to be the Goku/Vegeta show
- Goku confused the Mafuba Seal with a fucking credit card. And he's supposed to be "smart" (still didn't know what a kiss was)
Gif is him using it for a second. It could still be temporary and he could've just used the last bit of God ki from the Ritual.
Either way, right after that gif Beerus commented on Goku absorbing SSG, which is why he kept up as SS1