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SSG is love, SSG is life.
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>perfect control of his godly forms (SSG's balance and SSB's strength)
>1 year of advantage in RoSaT
>best papa
>royal blood
I guess Vegeta is the alpha one now
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>>154684832
>they reveal that those who participated in the ritual have been exposed to God Ki and can train to unlock it for themselves.
How would this make you feel?
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People need to understand that Vegeta's red to blue transformations do make sense.
If Vegeta went to base form and blue it would have been a clusterfuck, but he's going from God to Blue. God already uses god ki, Blue is just using super saiyan on top of it so the energy consumption this time must be the same as transforming into a super saiyan which is not much now.
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>>154684832
We require Dog Ki Goddo from and other God Ki utilizations from other Universes to keep Goku and Vegeta on their toes in the next upcoming arc. Not Gohan or the U9 faggots though they can get punted off the edge for all I care.
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>>154684917
would explain how vegeta did it.
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>>154684927
Yep, flickering between God forms is unchartered territory. I don't seen issue here unless Vegeta exits god form.
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>>154684980
See an*
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wtf I love Toyo now
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>>154684937
I love your smugpup design
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Vegeta going blue in a fraction of a second would make it look like Black was getting owned by Vegeta in god form. Not only would this be an extreme insult to Black, but it would exaggerate the power difference.
They basically forced them to fuse by making them look weaker than they realise
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Does this mean Goku was holding back a lot against Hit in the tourney?
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>>154684832
mangafags BTFO
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So will he be in the manga?
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>>154685101
God is only 10% of blue
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Someone posts the leaks.
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>>154684832
Super Sayan Lava is better.
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>>154685113
Lolwut.
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>>154685110

Goddamnit what is with edgelord spic fanartists and applying graphic violence to a childrens' cartoon?
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>>154684832

So what's the current meme going on with Super now and why is Super Saiyan God getting posted a lot?
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>>154685130
He used god against Hit in the manga, so if you want to know if he was holding back
Yes, he was.
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>dont get to see ssg vegeta animated
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>>154685082
>it would exaggerate the power difference
Except SSG and SSB power were supposed to be pretty similar since RoF also Vegeta use SSB to attack Black, literally the same as use SSB the whole time but isn't so expensive with the drain.
That's Vegeta beating Black with his SSB strenght, as happened in the anime. Now stay mad, toeishill.
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>>154685157
That makes no sense. Vegeta is only perceived to be strong in red because he's actually attacking in blue.
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>>154685147
Instead of going super saiyan blue like usual vegeta gies ssjg and goes ssj blue for a fraction of a second when he attacks or defends or something like that.
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>>154685175
>no SSG Vegeta animated
>no SSG Vegeta in games

>no SS Black animated
>no SS Black in games

It hurts
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>>154685184
I don't think anon's post came off as Toeishill-like.
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Reminder that Goku's name is "Gokou"
Beerus is "Beers"
Buu is "Boo"
Mr. Satan real name is "Mark"
17 and 18 names are "Lapis" and "Lazuli"
and nobody knows Turtle Hermit's name, same about his sister
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>>154685207
Toei cucking Toyotaro hard
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Is this going to be SSG?
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>>154685207
Shueisha's Dragon Ball Room actually has the say for what gets into the games now so you never know.
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>>154685234
More like Toei "cucking" fans
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>>154685113
>source: my anus
10% of blue is when you exit SSB form and then enter it again shortly after. Anything else and you're headcanoning.
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>>154685207
>no SSG Vegeta in games
>no SS Black in games

The games take shit from the manga though
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>>154685246
I was hoping so but unlikely.
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>>154685207
>no SSB Kaio-Ken Goku in manga
>SSB Kaio-Ken Goku will most likely be in games
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>>154685207
Games have fucking GT stuff. Why would they not have Super manga stuff?
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>>154685207

It's going to happen eventually. If SSJ3 Bejita exists in games, then you can be sure that Bandai are not going to stop milking the transformation train, regardless of whether they care about anime / manga canon or whether it exists or not.

Hell they probably don't even know it's happened in the manga they're just going to add it as DLC because sales figures.
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>>154685184
>any dissent of Toyotaro makes you a Toeishill
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>>154685336
I only trust Toyotaro right now for his drawing talent. I wouldn't trust him with my life when it comes to complete direction of where the franchise heads.
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>>154685348
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Reminder that Goku is fucked

>Lorax is called "Toppo" from "pot"
>Ayy is called "Jiren" from "range"

>Pride Troopers names come from items used to cook up vegetables because they will tear the saiyans apart

>Toppo also comes from "Rosso di Toppo" wine because Lorax will become Hakaishin at the end of the arc
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>>154685374
I want to see Ayy Lmao in action so bad
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>>154685306

Thank you smugpup, I know you will always be there to protect my smile, and I am smiling right now because of you.
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Fuck sake. These stupid discussions are the manga fans fault.

They all hated Vegetto in the anime, mark my fucking words, if he is in the manga, everyone suddenly likes him in this arc.

Just make your OWN thread and go there to "proof" why the manga is better.
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Has anyone stopped watching/not caring much about Super after Zamasu/black arc
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>>154685374
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>>154685336
Welcome to Dragon Ball Super threads!
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>>154685407
>Is this toeishill ignoring on purpose that some manga threads are already a thing and are chill and comfy as fuck?
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>>154685407
>They all hated Vegetto in the anime
Because he was tact on and didn't effect anything, take him out of the anime version and nothing would change.
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>>154685407
People hated Vegetto in the anime because of the stupid "oh it's only an hour between two ningen" and then the "oh but if you use too much power, it becomes ten minutes." garbage.
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>>154685434
Jiren = renji = stove
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daily reminder that Vegetto vs Zamasu was better than Vegetto vs Buu
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When
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>>154685407
We didn't hate his presence in the anime. We just hated Toei's retcon of him
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>>154685443
>shill
Kek
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>>154685466
The sad thing is, it was but the defusion was incredibly disappointing.

I'd have been cool with the 1 hour time limit if Vegetto got to use it
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>>154685336
>this NOT ONLY would this be AN EXTREME INSULT to Black, but it would exaggerate the power difference! They basically forced ....!

Yeah sounds like an actual autist or just a toeishill
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>>154685434
>>154685462
kitchen range you ningens
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>>154685407
Actually, I didn't give a fuck about Vegetto.
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Remember when cucks said Black was dominating Vegeta before the fusion? kek
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>>154685466(You)
Go fuck (You)rself it was very good but nothing will ever surpass candy beating
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>>154685467
Wait for Resurrection of C
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>>154685466
You wish.
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>>154685493
I agree. Zamasu was immortal so there already were the conditions for a long fight
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>>154685498
>sharing my theory on why Vegeta is going god
>actually like the manga better than the anime
>some random anon calls me toeishill
Be real proud of yourself anon
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What are the odds that this isn't the final Super arc?
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>>154685520
That's not a thing.
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>>154685184
>>154685230
>>154685234
>>154685256
>>154685336
>>154685443
>>154685529
Haha cuck!! Haha u guys are cuks hahaa shills!! XD
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>>154685520
Kindof yeah, search for the term レンジ in google image search. It does translate as "Range" but the term is generally applied to electrical cooking appliances, so electric stoves, electric rice cookers, electric microwave ovens you get the idea.

You could say that Jiren is electric
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>>154685535
>>154685530
>one sided beatdown that lasted too long
>good
Vegetto vs Zamasu showed cockiness , a back to back fight and a villain character development

Buu was trash for the most part
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>>154685529
b-but muh ridiculous powerhouse...! Muh asspulls... muh dimensional cutter scythe with Naruto clones!
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>Idiots STILL think Toyo manga is canon
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This is just stupid. We had a Tournament that Universe 7 DID WON, fair and square. Nobody can deny that. Even Zeno sama saw it.

Then, we get this bullshit, that Universe 6 is stronger?
> I blame Toei for that
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>>154685589
>villain character development
This is what zamasufags actually believe
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AYYYLMAO NAME IS GERAN
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>154685602
I honestly find it weird how toeifags call the manga inconsistencies out, when the anime was just as ridiculous. I can't see Black going from SSJ2 to SSB levels because of a beating by Goku
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>>154685615
It doesn't matter if it's canon or not - it's superior.
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>>154685575
I don't think the final db anime is going to end on a tournament arc but maybe I'm wrong
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>>154685074

I want to Goku and Vegeta decide to kick the shit out of this guy at the same time, and then I want to see him win against both of them despite the odds, and then he goes and hugs Pan. Smugpup is amazing..
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>>154685626
Nice bait
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>>154685589
>a villain character development
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH
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>>154685657
neck yourself
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>>154685458
>Yeaaah Vegetto Blue
>Oh shit there's no reason why Vegetto Blue wouldn't absolutely demolish Merged Zamasu, and that would mean Trunks wouldn't get to save the day with his spirit sword. ABORT. ABORT.
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>>154685673
Zamasu > Buu

Get over it
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>>154685589
Don't forget Vegetto vs Zamasu had shit fight choreography
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>>154685675
I would ask you to do that to yourself but Smugpup-senpai would disapprove of that, so I am simply going to wish you a good day and hope you continue having a nice time here on DBS general.
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>>154685633
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>>154685701
You wish
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>>154685680
Vegito (if he appears) will most likely use Super Saiyan God against Zamasu until he mutates. The mutation will probably make Vegito go blue
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>>154685200
Wait when? I thought episode 82 didnt air last week?
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tfw no jiren in xenoverse
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>>154685731
And then he'll unfuse like in the manga so that Trunks can defeat Merged Zamasu.
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>>154685729
Any Villain that gets rekt by Gohan is confirmed trash
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>>154685742

We'll eventually get Jiren, Toppo and all the other new characters in Xenoverse 2 via DLC, and if not, we can expect them to appear in Xenoverse 3.

Bandai won't let this opportunity slip I can assure you.
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>>154685757
Better than being thwarted by tear gass
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>>154685589
but candy!!!
mah candy bullet through the head!
don't do this character development whining all the time. Zamasu breaking down and the whole "tears for the world" is good and all but pls SUPPA GHOST KAMEKAZI ATTACK>all
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>>154685757

Well to be fair, Gohan despite being stronger than Buu at the time, managed to fail spectacularly and get his friends and himself absorbed whilst missing a simple catch of an earring from his dad.

Buu then inherited Gohan's amazing ability to job and lost to a ball of candy,

Legacy of Gohan.
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>>154685782
tear gass > getting beat by the biggest cuck in db history
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>>154685782
Total bitches
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>>154685801
>plays baseball
>misses an earring

How shitty is gohan
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>>154685756
Hopefully Toyo realises that a mini Vegito arc would be cool
Wouldn't actually mind it if he actually weakens Zamasu to a point where Trunks could beat him, and allows Trunks to beat him
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>>154685576
Are you legitimately retarded? Go google "kitchen range" and look at the images.
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>>154685633
That reminds me...
New Kaioshin names come from here

U1 Kaioshin - Anat (theorized as "Anato", confirmed as "Anat" in Toei's website urls)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anat

U3 Kaioshin - Ea (incorrectly romanized in Toei's website urls as "Air")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki

U4 Kaioshin - Kuru (incorrectly romanized in Toei's website urls as "Clue")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_(mythology)

U5 Kaioshin - Ogma (theorized as "Oguma", confirmed as "Ogma" in Toei's website urls)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogma
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Our hero Vermoud

From Toyo's twitter
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>>154685701
If you're speaking about cancer, then yes: Zamasu > Buu
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>>154685790
>people seriously take that joke moment that even Vegetto found embarrassing as character development
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>>154685675
>>154685718

Goku, Vegeta and Gohan fans tell other people to go kill themselves for supporting their favorite characters. Smugpup fans mean no harm and only wish to fight the good fight.

Does this translate to the actual characters in Dragon Ball. Are Saiyans really the true evil and destructive force threatening the multiverse? Will Smugpup save us all?
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>>154685846

Well at least he didn't miss the floor
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>>154685951
Fat buu: CANDY AND DESTRUCTION BUT SATAN TOLD ME THAT DESTRUCTION WAS BAD SO NO MORE
Super Buu: CANDY CANDY, KILLING AND DESTRUCTION
Gotenks/Piccolo/Gohan Buu: I'm the strongest, oh yeah I'm going to destroy everything
Kid Buu: DESTRUCTION WOOOOOO
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>>154685923
no one give a shit faggot
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>>154686039
who hurt you anon
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>>154686027
Zamasu: Mortals kill to much, imma kill them and the Gods too just cuz
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>>154686027
No its
Kid Buu: *incomprehensible animal noises*
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>>154686027
Zamasu:
>MUH NINGENN
>MUH KAMI
>MUH SEEEEEEEEEEIGIIIIIIII
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>>154686039
I do, fuck off.
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Piccolo is a particularly weak villain in retrospect, although piccolo day is fun and just the fact that he just released all the criminals.

Freeza was always interesting to me because he had an interesting powerset and was one of the first major villains to have multiple forms.

But beyond that Freeza works as a great parallel for goku, who had to work to become as strong as he is, Freeza was just ALWAYS strong. They have a nice back and forth with freeza so sure of his abilities and Goku reveling in how fun it is to fight someone as strong as Freeza. It wasn't until Freeza's on the ropes that he loses that composure.

Cell, while my (former) least favorite dragonball villain, started as a horrifying monster that gained power through killing and absorbing people. Once achieving his power, he then creates a tournament simply to further his own ego. While he feels more or less like a retread of Piccolo there's a kind of charm in how he goes about business.

Buu is just fun. HE's probably one of my favorite dragonball villains in general because he's basically just...Evil Arale. Even Super Buu, while evil, just wants to fight people and have fun. He's silly, wacky and is probably the most gag heavy villain since the pilaf gang.


Zamasu by comparison is FAR too preachy. Freeza has this condescending nature about him but it's mostly him feigning politeness before kicking your shit in.
Cell has a bravado certainly, but it's mostly boasting about his own power

Zamasu is constantly talking about how mortals are gross. How mortals are scum. How He's doing the universe a favor and while he's not the first hypocritical villain, he's certainly the most preachy about it. That coupled with the fact that he takes SOOOO LONG to beat and the fact that all the fights are in a boring burning landscape make him really really uninteresting to me.

Zamasu feels like a fan character made by someone who doesn't quite get what makes a villain memorable or entertaining.
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>>154686039
I think it's cool.

>>154685923
Thanks!
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>>154686039
But I do, Why are you being so angry at other anons who want to share their posts with us?

Did gohan hit the floor again?
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>SSG is back

YES
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>>154686111
>Did gohan hit the floor again?

*sigh* we're going to have to put a leash on gohan, the floor did nothing wrong to him
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The way I feel about SSG Vegeta is the same way I feel about SS3 Vegeta.

Absolutely no need for it, but neat I guess.
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>>154686039
I do, faggot.
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>>154686105
It's simply because he sees himself as a divine messiah, but is so objectively wrong that he seems crazy and ultra preachy. We've never really had a villain with a god complex like this
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>>154686027
>Fat buu: CANDY AND DESTRUCTION BUT SATAN TOLD ME THAT DESTRUCTION WAS BAD SO NO MORE

Zamasu: NINGEN AND DESTRUCTION BUT GOWASU TOLD ME THAT DESTRUCTION WAS BAD BUT I WON'T STOP

See, I can do that too, not an argument
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>>154686105
Zamasu is just as stupid as Lysandre from Pokemon X and Y.
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>>154686174
>Absolutely no need for it
How? If Vegeta can go SSGSS, that means he can go SSG as well
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>>154686220
but Lysandre is best Pokemon villain

>but muh literal autist
fuck off DiaPerfag
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>>154686246
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>Goku mistakenly takes Roshi's hostess bar discount card instead of the Mafuba seal.

At least he didn't forget the seal, he didn't know how it looked like, I guess

Still a shit excuse
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> Goku mistakenly takes Roshi's hostess bar discount card instead of the Mafuba seal.

So much for Manga!Goku not being a retard...

At least in the anime, it was also partly Roshi's fault
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>>154686294
In the anime he fucking forgot, which is worst.
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>>154686294
>Roshi: Wait, I'll do the seal
>Goku: Sure... good bye!

>Vegeta: Kakarotto, are you ready? Do you bring the beans and that shit?
>Goku: Yup!
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>>154686226
I mean that it's pointless to use when you have SSB.

ALSO this means Vegeta did the SSG Ritual. I can never see him voluntarily ask for borrowed power...not to mention holding hands.

Unless of course if Beerus is crashing your party.
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>>154686291
>>154686294
>4 seconds apart
fucking freaky
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>>154686318
In the anime, Roshi forgot to remind him though.

In the manga, Goku knew yet he took a fucking hostess bar card.

How do you confuse a Mufaba Seal with a Hooters Card?
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>>154686338
Have you even read the manga? SSB drains a lot of power from the user.
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>>154686368
>mafuba*
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>>154686291
>>154686294

Goku confirmed for retard in both Anime and Manga.

Who will save us from this destructive autist of galactic proportions?
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>>154686374
I meant why use SSG when SSB clearly wasn't enough?

Also the other points I mentioned about Vegeta asking for borrowed power.
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based our guy, SSG is based

TOEI BTFO
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>>154686338
>I mean that it's pointless to use when you have SSB.
Then you must read the manga again. SSB is a stronger, but SSG is more balanced, so control both forms makes of you a more versatile fighter.

>ALSO this means Vegeta did the SSG Ritual.
Huh no
Nobody said you can't be properly trained to go SSG (and Vegeta was trained by Whis itself)
This is the same shit when RoF arrived and SSB Vegeta appeared, everyone talked about the ritual but it wasn't necessary at all
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>>154686291
Then that's a Toriyama gag.
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>>154685279
he is already in Xenoverse 2
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>>154686407
SSG and SSB power are pretty similar, so SSG Vegeta post RoSaT is clearly stronger than SSB Vegeta pre RoSaT, also Vegeta is attacking using his SSB (which is obviously stronger than before as well)
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>>154686443
>Then you must read the manga again
See: >>154686407

Unless there is something else I missed?

> Nobody said you can't be properly trained to go SSG

Nobody said you COULD. SSG was supposed to be a ritual-induced transformation.

Sure maybe they keep the form after the ritual (manga-only), but the ritual is still necessary.
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>>154686368
>How do you confuse a Mufaba Seal with a Hooters Card?
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>>154686294
We have to wait until we have the other pages, but Goku was probably in a hurry and got the card without checking it first.
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how strong is captain ayy lmao?
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>>154686509
See >>154686496

>Nobody said you COULD
So... Vegeta can just learn how to go SSGSS... but not to go SSG? Just because you can go SSG by other way as well? Obtain the same form via different way isn't new (SS by rage or genetics if you're Goten/Trunks or SS2 by training or rage if you're future Trunks or Gohan)
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>>154686619
as strong as the people in charge want him to be
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>>154686616

Only 22.9%
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>>154686777
That's... an actual perfect and irrefutable reply.

I hate you now anon, you're too good for this world
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>>154686798
Software knows what it wants
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>>154686798
Black and Zamasu comfirmed shit
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>>154685279
I haven't found SSB Goku if fusions yet but I'm pretty sure SSB Kaioken is in there
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>>154685418
Yeah, but the Krillen filler puled me back in and this arc is hype to no end.
>Toppo vs Goku tomorrow
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>>154686838

Hmm...
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>>154686838
How much better would DBS be if it featured Lava Goku using the Blaze Kamehameha, a very, very, catastrophic Kamehameha wave. It's so intense that it can go up to 140,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 degrees fahrenheit. It can burn a black hole easily.
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>>154686983
>>154686984

Is smugpup stronker than lava goku?!?
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>>154686984
>burn a black hole
Is Lava Goku so strong that he can make reality bend to his will?
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>'wow veggie can use a form weaker than what he's already been shown to be capable of!! '

Uh.. Okay...
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>>154687107
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>>154687116
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>Uses SSG and turns SSB the moment he attacks
I guess having a giant forehead was useful after all.
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>>154687153
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>>154685146
we also grew up with mortal kombat
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>>154687153
But is it greater than Lava Goku?
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>>154687200

I also grew up with mortal kombat (played the shit out of Mortal Kombat 2 on the SNES as a kid) and was obsessed with graphical violence back then, but as I grew up I kinda got bored of it. Ironic.
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Toyo ripped off Dragon Ball Multiverse with the "only using SSB the instant he attacks" thing

Also, Toeishills are annoying me again. They're saying Toyo is fanfiction, acting like the anime isn't. I mean of course the anime isn't, with such gems as Super Saiyan Rage, SSB Kaioken x10, and the Spirit Bomb Light Sword!
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>>154687266
>Toyo ripped off Dragon Ball Multiverse with the "only using SSB the instant he attacks" thing
Stop being retarded.
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>>154686983
Well at least it got the tags right this time. Some of them disturbingly accurate like TEAM EVENT.

How the fuck do you even manage to get that.
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>>154686595
Even being in a hurry, I don't see how anyone can confuse a seal with a gift card?

I mean I guess mistakes happened, but so many people gave Goku shit in the anime when it wasn't as bad as a mistake
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>>154687292
Stop being a pathetic fanboy. That image isn't the same thing
In DBM, to counter the slowness of SS Grade 3, Trunks fought as a SSJ and transformed only to do huge attacks, then he'd transform back into SSJ

It's exactly what SSG Vegeta is doing.
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http://weibo.com/zekken?is_all=1#_loginLayer_1489757913694
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>>154687292
He reads shitty fanfics what do you expect?
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>browsing youtube because bored
>see usual flood of dragonball clickbaity shit because I watched 2 clips of a Cell fight 8 years ago
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0A6NXBfODY

Okay now is this true?
If Vegeta is really gonna get SSJG in the manga I'm about to drop Toyotaro outright because that's retarded.
That's like Goku powering up against Buu and turning back into a SSJ1.
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>>154687266
>Toyo ripped off Dragon Ball Multiverse with the "only using SSB the instant he attacks" thing

What? Salagir already added SSB in his shit fanfic?
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>>154687326
We still don't know how that card looks like, maybe it looks a lot like the seal.

Also the problem with the anime was that Goku kept forgetting things (the senzu, the jar inside the time machine and the seal), so people got understandably annoyed.
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>>154687266
>They're saying Toyo is fanfiction, acting like the anime isn't. I mean of course the anime isn't, with such gems as Super Saiyan Rage, SSB Kaioken x10, and the Spirit Bomb Light Sword!

Neither are fanfiction ya retard.
DB has always been basically two continuities of one main verse.
In Z the mingling was greater, but in Super they've diverged much more clearly.
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>>154687402
>Neither are fanfiction ya retard.
No shit dipshit, do you not understand sarcasm?

Holy fuck you dense motherfuckers here.
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>>154686641
>Obtain the same form via different way isn't new

True but a new/different way to transform is pretty significant...and only being in the manga means it's a Toyo addition.

That's like DBZ coming up with a new/different way to become SS2, but only released in a OVA
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>>154687424
>Toyo mad he still writes fanfiction for a living
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>>154687375
It's true, but there is a catch to all of this
He's not actually hitting him in SSG, rather before he hits Black he turns Blue for a fraction of a second, thus making it seem like Black is getting his asskicked by a weaker form no less. By the way if you think the 10% shit applies, it doesn't as Vegeta is already using god power. He's probably not expending much energy when he transforms from Red to Blue
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>>154687375
>That's like Goku powering up and turning back into a SSJ1.

Nice bait anyway, almost got me
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>>154685741
It's from the manga leaks
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>>154687160
>Attack foe then transform into your peak power when you hit them
Thats actually pretty smart because if fools your opponent into guarding against your weaker state then you oneshot them in your stronger form.
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Is there something in the chapter explaining how going from God to Blue repeatedly doesn't invoke the 10 % thing, or do we have to settle for the "he's already using god ki so it doesn't count" headcanon?
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>>154687479
>He's not actually hitting him in SSG, rather before he hits Black he turns Blue for a fraction of a second, thus making it seem like Black is getting his asskicked by a weaker form no less

>he's transforming super-duper fast and tricking him

Wew that's fucking retarded
It was pointless to give him the form in the first place but to add such a retarded catch that makes Black look like a super-retard is double-retarded.
It's not every day that fucking TOEI manages to implement something more reasonable and sensible than you.
TOYO >>>/out/

>>154687480
It wasn't bait though, did you not understand the Buu example, and how it differs from Beerus' situation?
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> mfw SS Black and SSG Vegeta will never show up in the main DB Video Games

And all the games/spin-offs will have Black with his anime personality
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>>154685200
>Instead of going super saiyan blue like usual vegeta gies ssjg and goes ssj blue for a fraction of a second when he attacks

THE BASICS
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B
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>>154687534
Wait until it fucking releases you dipshit!

Every fucking month, you fucking faggots start making assumptions and judging it despite not even having a full translation!
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>>154687375
neck yourself, spic
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>>154687534
Retard explanation coming in, but perhaps it's kind of like HIIT.

As in, SSB is sprinting, and if you keep doing that, sure you might recover your breath a bit in 30 seconds after nothing but a good sprint but you won't be able to do it as hard as you did before.

Whereas using SSG then SSB briefly is like a 30 second jog and a 15 second sprint so it doesn't invoke the 10% thing.

Who fucking knows, what am i even saying.
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>>154687560
>And all the games/spin-offs will have Black with his anime personality

Good, he was more extravagant there. More memorable fit for a video game.
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>>154687539
>but to add such a retarded catch that makes Black look like a super-retard is double-retarded.

Oh, Blackfag, got it. Nevermind then.
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>>154687560
GOKU STOP STRANGLING KRILLIN HE DID NOTHING WRONG HOLY SHIT GOKU WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
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>>154687539
It's not worth it to respond to you.
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>>154687624
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>>154687560
Anime Black is the best Black after all.
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>>154687623
Not really, I just understand it's smart to protect the villains of an arc and not have them look like dipshits.
Like, if Goku turned SSJ for a split-second fighting Frieza each time, he'd just look like a goof.
Plus, it's a stupid move anyway, from a purely narrative standpoint. So going to lengths to rationalize it that simply aren't worth it is doubly stupid.

>>154687657
Translation: I got nada, senor.
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>>154687619
Not bad, honestly
>>154687584
Shut the fuck up, autist. I only asked a question.
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>>154687663
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>>154687560
>> mfw SS Black and SSG Vegeta will never show up in the main DB Video Games

Don't give up, anon.

Champa has his manga special attack in Xenoverse 2
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>>154685626
I can't comprehend the levels of autism required to post this in every topic for the last 2 weeks.
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>>154686984
Is Lava Goku a Sayan Form or a separate transformation?

Could we call it Super Sayan Lava? Could Vegeta achieve Lava Vegeta and use Gallick Blaze? Or is it a form achievable by any ki fighter?
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>>154687691
2/10 made me reply again. But nice try, have a nice day anon.
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>Champa's English voice
>Vados' English voice
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>>154686838
Do not make Shin suffer
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>>154687560
SS Black and SSG Vegeta will show up in games. Any excuse to make more toys/more characters

I mean, games already give us things like SSJ3 Broly and Vegeta
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>>154687691
Leave with your bait. We are not fishes for you to catch
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>>154685626
Who cares about your meme rankings and meme tournaments

Merged Zamasu is back for more smug
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>>154687749
Translation: You win, I can't compete.
I'll take my victory (You) and accept your concession
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>>154687757

>0.0%

There is no awesome in begin Shin.
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>>154687756
>The dub is shit

Nothing new anon

>inb4 b-but Goku and the rest sound g-good

Nostalgia is a powerful weapon
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>>154687769
Clearly you are, and evidently not very clever ones.
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>>154687756
They just told the jeice va to phone it in, holy shit your right! Also Vados VA is ok....
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>>154687762
Xenoverse 2 had SSB Kaioken Goku vs Hit

Not SSG Goku vs Hit
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>>154687453
>means it's a Toyo addition
Mario Kart scene was Toyo addition too, what's wrong with it?
Also isn't an actual Toyo addition. In the movies "beyond god" was nothing but SSG in base form (that's why their new SS forms were called "SSGSS") but in the manga SSG just sticks. Vegeta obtained beyond god form and people thought about if Vegeta went through the ritual when RoF arrived but he didn't, he trained with Whis. It's exactly what happens in the manga but using SSG instead Beyond god
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>SSG Goku and Vegeta

/OUR GUY/ saves DB once again
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>>154687856
I said characters, not story. SSG already exists in the games.
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>>154687861
>jobgeta gets the designated jobbing form

Reminder if jobgeta is your guy you like to watch your wife get fucked
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>>154687808
Tenshinhan is best human
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>>154687859
If it's a Toyo addition, it can be trashed along with all the Mexicans that like it.
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>>154684832
>SSG is love, SSG is life.
Only if you are a ningen
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>>154687375
>zamasoo
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>manga will get gogeta red

BASED
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>>154687705
Because they needed moves for him so they looked up the manga.

Bamco has agreements with Toei, not with Toyotaro. The manga doesn't matter to them unless they really need to scrounge up stuff, and they gain more by pushing the anime since manga is a dying industry.
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>>154687861
Is this all it takes to save DB? Give a character an outdated and hardly useful form?
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Now I'm glad Goku has his Buu arc outfit during the Black Arc

SSG looks better with that.
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>>154687939
If Toyo has them transform into Gogeta Red at the end of the arc and consigns himself to GT-tier fanfic shit I will fucking die of laughter
He's already well on his way
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>>154687375
No, that's like Goku using SS2 but turning himself into SS3 the instant he attacks, so he use strongest form's power without drains.
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>Toriyama-Sensei! How would you like your manga?
>JUSTU FUCK MY SHITTU UP, FAMMU~~~~~~~

Really extensive hiring process.
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>gogeta red vs vegito blue

who wins?
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>>154687883
>>jobgeta gets the designated jobbing form

I know right? SSB is a piece of shit

SSG is here to save the day
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>>154688015
Goku looks fucking awesome in his Whis outfit. I fucking hate his standard one, god damn why couldn't he keep this overall design.
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Post yfw Goku won't fight Captain Ayy Lmao
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>>154687939
>tfw canon Gogeta is just Vegito with metamor clothes
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>>154688015
>0 for 1
>100% fail rate

Lads what Cuckgeta's endgame?
Is he trying to make himself into the perfect jobber?
Is he like Anti-Cell?
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>>154688014
>a 1 minute fight before both fusion run out

I don't know really
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>>154687999
The highest I got with my Buu pictures was 6.1%
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>>154687970
You Toeishills are ridiculous
I just saw some fuck on Kanzenshuu claiming Super Saiyan Rage and Spirit Bomb Lightsword were genius, creative, and amazing

The fuck is wrong with this fanbase?
>SSG returning is fanfiction tier!!!! But the anime does nothing wrong!!!!

I hate this fanbase.
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>>154687923
>toeishill still in denial
Enjoy Toei's fanfiction based on Toriyama and Toyotaro's manga
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>>154688082
>>154688083
Toyocuck tears taste better than his fanfiction ever will
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>>154687859
>Mario Kart scene was Toyo addition too, what's wrong with it?
Nothing was wrong with that. It was actually pretty fun.

But I'm talking about a new way to transform which is much more significant than a slice of life scene.

Also the manga never showed Vegeta achieving SSG with Whis or even mentioning it at all. We were left to believe that it is a form that has to be initially obtain by ritual.

Anime explained Goku/Vegeta getting SSB by intense training with Whis while keeping their ki from "leaking".

But now we have to assume that Manga!Vegeta obtained SSG a way that was never shown previously?

It's probably not that big of a deal since it's manga-exclusive, but eh whatever
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>>154686983
Uploaded the image myself to see if it was bullshit.

It seems to really like smugpup.
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>>154688082
>People from Kanzenshuu and Toeishills have the same opinions

Makes you think
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>>154688122
RoF is awesome, they aren't wrong
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>>154688082
>>154688083
>>154688109
It's a "Toyocucks learn their place" episode

Based Toeichads
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>>154688140
it's almost like there's an overlap or something
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>>154688015
> SSG Gogeta vs SSB Vegetto

> Vegetto is stronger than Gogeta
> SSB is stronger than SSG
> Base Gogeta lasts 30 min while Base Vegetto lasts 1 hour

Gee i wonder?
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>B-but muh manga Goku is not a retard
https://mobile.twitter.com/Herms98/status/842612821179289600 hahahaHAHA BTFO
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Why is everyone losing their shit with SSG Vegeta?

Don't you need that form first to get SSB?
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>>154687999

I liked the drawing until the hideously bulging cameltoe. That just does NOT look healthy and is probably inflamed.
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>>154688181
Meant to reply to >>154688014
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>>154688188
>In the next exciting DBS chapter, Goku mistakenly takes Roshi's hostess bar discount card instead of the Mafuba seal. Also, Vegeta goes SSG.

>A FUCKING HOSTESS BAR DISCOUNT CARD
>HOSTESS
>BAR
>DISCOUNT
>CARD

>tfw too intelligent to read the manga

I'm gonna start a GoFundMe page to help toyocucks cope
This is simply too far
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>>154688190
No SSG was just a temporary version of SSB

SSB was achieved by intense angel-tier training while maintaining perfect Ki control
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>>154688240
I would've preferred if Goku just forgot and Roshi forgot to remind him, like in the anime.

Remember how much shit Toyobros gave him for that?

Now Goku confused an ancient seal with a pervy gift card
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>>154688248
Then why introducing a god form via ritual if there's a stronger god form that you can get with training?
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>>154688190
yes
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>>154688311
Transformation by ritual is much easier to achieve
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>>154688063
silly fellow
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I'm so fucking done

Just so fucking done

The internet is over
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>>154688190
SSG and SSB is not like SS1 and SS2

SSB is not the next level of SSG (like a SSG2). Both of them are achieved differently.
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>>154688357
All my Buu pictures are anime. I think that was the problem.
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>>154687153
Ningen that's nothing, now this is the real deal
ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Paiyaman
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why
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>>154688421
>People are prepared to permanently vandalise themselves with Vegeta.
Vegetafags are retarded
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>created by ningen
>that No people tag
>0.0% awesome
ningen still butthurt about One True God

and it hates goku,goten very much and is on the fence about GohanxGround (50.1%)
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why
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>>154688499
Hit was never supposed to be awesome
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>>154688421
>Fapping
>See my dick
>Vegeta is there masturbating me
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This fucking thread
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>>154688361
Basil?

More like... bASSil
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>>154688518

Hah.

BIG BANG ATTACK
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Huh, the grand priest was right
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>>154688127
>But I'm talking about a new way to transform which is much more significant than a slice of life scene.
Still the same. Toriyama does the outline and Toyotaro fill it, and is this combo what makes the DBS manga.

>Also the manga never showed Vegeta achieving SSG
And movie never showed Vegeta achieving saiyan beyond god or the blue god, he just appears and you must guess "well he trained with Whis so makes sense".

>Anime explained Goku/Vegeta getting SSB by intense training with Whis while keeping their ki from "leaking".
Details about how to use god ki aren't in the movies or the manga, they just become gods via ritual once and then they can do it at will after be trained by Whis. In the movies this happened with SSG and beyond god (its substitute), manga just sticks with SSG.

>But now we have to assume that Manga!Vegeta obtained SSG a way that was never shown previously?
I alread said it, this is exactly what happened with Vegeta's beyond god state.
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>>154688188
>h-hey! Manga-Goku made one mistake that anime-Goku made too! T-toyokeks BTFO!
God, you're pathetic
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ALL A LIE
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>>154685231
SHUT THE FUCK UP EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THREAD JESUS FUCKING CHRIST FUCK OFF
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>>154688406
just checked with 5 pictures so yes illustration gives higher rating
super buu anime pic got 0.0 rating
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>>154688190
>Don't you need that form first to get SSB?
Yep but people can't deal with their headcanons being proven wrong
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>>154688686
Ayy
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>>154688674
Very hard for you to see that shit is bait?

"Toeichads" is just an epic meme
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>>154688544
okay, anon. I'm dealing with a splitting headache. Please don't make me laugh like that.
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>>154688188
Toeishills *******THIS******* desperate to prove us chads wrong.
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>>154688690
>EVERY SINGLE
You're wrong, though.
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I bet Zamasu is behind this
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>>154688638
Or he may just like his vaginas not looking like they have a disease I dunno, I'm not a cartoon clitoris expert.
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>>154688674
>>154688709
>>154688725
Cringing hard
Toyocucks about to kill themselves
someone help them
Toeichads take another W
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>>154688636
>Still the same. Toriyama does the outline and Toyotaro fill it, and is this combo what makes the DBS manga.
I know that. Anime does this too but replace Toyo with Toei.

But SSG Vegeta (or SSG Goku vs Hit for that matter) clearly wasn't in Toriyama's outline.

I thought Toyo/Toei filling-in info wouldn't affect anything this drastic, to the point where not only does an outdated form return but has a new way of activating it.

> Beyond God

When was this form ever confirmed outside DB Wiki?
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https://www.db-z.com/dragon-ball-xenoverse-2-dlc-3-bojack-zamasu-goku-black-rose/
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>>154688829
Toeiautists on suicide watch
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>>154688701
> Criticizing "headcanons" while providing your own

Okay.jpg
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>>154688896
Toeichads fuckin ya wife
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>Bojack

Why tho?
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>>154688891
neat
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>>154688949
why not?
we still need more movie villains
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>>154688949
Probably because he's appeared in a past Dragon Ball game and there'd be fans of his character I guess.
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>>154688949
Turles, Slug, Cooler, Broly, and Janemba were involved in the story.

Bojack was disregarded until now I guess
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>>154688891
>bojack
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>>154688949
YESSSSSSSSSSS
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>>154688949
are there full scans yet?
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>>154688891
>Black using ki blade
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>>154685520
The only reason I know what that is is because of Runescape.
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Why do you guys hate on the dub? It's pretty good now
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>>154689184
Who said we ever hated on it?
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>>154689184
I feel like vegeta sounds off compared to how he used to sound. also beerus and whis sound awful
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>>154685348
>>154685361
>>154685372

bueno
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>>154688190

Logically yes.

But

>>154688701
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>>154688863
>But SSG Vegeta (or SSG Goku vs Hit for that matter) clearly wasn't in Toriyama's outline.
So?

>an outdated form return
Well, SSG isn't outdated at all as you can see in the manga. The issue is both SSG and SSB works together.

>a new way of activating it
Again, Vegeta becoming a god (not only a SSGSS, but a SSG in base form) is from Toriyama movies.

>When was this form ever confirmed outside DB Wiki?
Well, the name comes from DBH but is only used for convenience (as some people actually use "quake of fury" for Rageta rage boost). But Goku and Vegeta regular forms being "SSG in base" forms still comes from Toriyama itself, that's the point of SSGSS's name.
base Goku/Vegeta = SSG
SS Goku/Vegeta = SSGSS
But Toriyama changed his mind and wanted back to regular SS form (SS2 and SS3 as well). This make anime confusing because every form is powered up by god ki and nobody knows how strong they are anymore, manga instead, mixt both things, they trained for control god ki (aka go SSG and SSB at will) but they still can use their regular (non godly at all) forms.
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>>154689320
toriyama drew that vegeta? looks like shit.
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>>154689368
Of course he did it
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>>154686777
what are the chances that since Toei clearly mistook Toppo for Jiren (probably until Toriyama saw it and asked them to check themselves), that Jiren isn't even all that special and they animated the OP with the whole "toppo wants to get rid of goku" in mind while thinking that Jiren is named Toppo?

probably means Jiren aint shit
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>>154685175
Thank god. This cancer should stay in the shitty manga where it belongs.
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>>154689423
stay mad
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meanie posts are wrong
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>>154689423
Are ok anon?
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>>154689320
>So?
Meaning transforming into SSG without ever needing the SSG Ritual is not from Toriyama

> is from Toriyama movies
Not it's not. Not at all. Where in the movies is there SSG Vegeta or at the very least even a mention of it?

> the name comes from DBH
You know DBH is as canon as Garlic Jr right? Maybe even less canon if that's even possible.

> But Goku and Vegeta regular forms being "SSG in base"
You can't simultaneously believe that Base Manga!Goku/Vegeta = SSG when Manga!Goku/Vegeta transform into SSG.

This implies that Base = SSG and there is literally no need to transform into SSG
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>>154688674
Except mangafags were harping on for months about how Toei was ruining Goku but the manga was staying true to the character.

Turns out both are portraying him as a retard. Reality is, the manga is just as dogshit as the anime, sometimes even more so.
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>>154689482

GO AWAY GOKU YOU HURT PUPPIES
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>>154689391
>>154689423
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>>154684832
the fuck is this cancer?
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THIS IS SO DUMB
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>Neko Majin Z will never be playable in a DB game
why live?
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>>154689320
>But Toriyama changed his mind and wanted back to regular SS form (SS2 and SS3 as well)
Toriyama never said he wanted to get rid of the other SS forms, just that Goku wouldn't want to use it as often because he can get stronger without them

Big difference anon
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>>154689539
Ningens
>cancer
That's pretty obvious
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>>154689544
You misspelled "neat"
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>>154689560

Hey you take that back about ningens.

Wannabe Kais who think they're gods who shittalk and hurt ningens are the true cancer.
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>>154688949
Where's Lava Goku?
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>>154689513
>Except mangafags were harping on for months about how Toei was ruining Goku but the manga was staying true to the character.
Because that's true, so?

>manga-Goku is a retarded because made a mistake
Huh sure whatever you say
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>>154689595
Xenoverse 3 you fool
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>>154689544
> SS Black humiliates SSB Vegeta in the manga
> Vegeta returns, becomes SSG
> SS Rose Black is scared

What the fuck Toyo
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>>154689544
>Those muscles

Looks like Shida's style, I like it
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>>154689517
liar liar pants on fire
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>>154689607
Pathetic damage control desu.
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>>154689664
Mafuba.
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wow the way the manga is handling this arc is so much fucking better than the bullshit toei gave us

>after vegeta trains there are no more powerups for goku black i.e. vegeta is simply stronger and that makes black and zamasu nervous as hell
>after mafuuba fails they fuse with zamasu being mad as fuck at black for thinking ningen power was enough
>SSG vegeta
>zamasu getting his shit pushed in by SSG goku
>trunks just watching

this is so much fucking better its unreal how toei could possibly fuck something up this bad
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This page is hilarious
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>>154689631
He looks more confused than scared.
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>>154689651

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g80rwTLQbnI

No. Goku, you're the liar.
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>>154689631
>SS Rose Black is scared

???
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>>154689684
This is what Stockholm Syndrome looks like.
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>we should wait for an explanation but in the meantime my headcanon is right
Just admit Toyo fucked up. I knew something like this would happen when he made that retarded 10% rule
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>>154689743
Your post is what animedroning looks like.
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>>154689692
kek/10
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>>154689743
No, it's what a Vegetafag looks like. Just ignore him.
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>>154689704
that is no puppy
go away liar before I call you know who
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>>154689631
If i'm not mistaken he calls it a weaker form than what he used before and doesn't understand why he's using it
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Toriyama chose the wrong guy. Seriously how does one fuck up so bad that they make Toei look good in comparison?
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Is SSG or SSGSG 100x stronger than the last form of Goku in DBZ?
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>>154689747
>>we should wait for an explanation but in the meantime my headcanon is right
>Just admit my headcanon is right
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Bulma going to the future was a Toei invention. Bulma trying to seduce Zamasu was a Toei invention
All of Trunks asspulls were Toei inventions

Yet somehow, Toeishills will still claim that the manga is fanfiction
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>>154688472
DBfags in general are retarded. Look at how these threads have turned into 95%

>/ourguy/
>toeishill!!
>toyocuck!!

You have to be a retarded shit flinging man child to just keep doing this shit.
>>
I don't get SSB means that Goku and Vegeta have perfect ki control so why the fuck is Vegeta using a weaker form that brings no benefits at all?
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>>154689544
>>154689664
>>154689680
>>154689692

OUR GUY
U
R

G
U
Y
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>>154689692

If Goku hadn't fucked up in the Anime or the Manga, F.Trunks' timeline would still exist.

Or maybe it was intentional.

Maybe Goku knew, he knew he had the Zeno button, he knew Zeno could destroy Universes, he just wanted an excuse to pull it out and make Trunks suffer.

He's jealous that Trunks is better than his own son. He's jealous that Vegeta is a better father. He's jealous that both of them could become stronger than him when he wants to become the strongest guy and continue fighting stronger guys that aren't Vegeta or Trunks.


Wow... Goku is a conniving shit.
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>Goku never fought Goku Black in the manga

This is some dumb shit right here.
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>>154689851
Toyo was the one who made the 10% rule because he can't make good fights
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>>154689821
I thought SSBKK was bad but Toyble's obsession woth SSG is even worse
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>>154689680
Goku does the Mafuba? Not Trunks?

Lame
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>>154689894
that fight was shit
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>>154689747
Yeah sure Toeishill, just like your previous claims right?
>black cant go SSR
>there's no humans
>manga will rush to the ending
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>>154689916
And Tori gave him the ok so I don't really care about fans' opinions
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>>154689887
>anyone becoming stronger than goku when he has kaioken
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>>154689894
Toyo made Vegeta the defacto main character of the arc in the manga.
In the anime, Toei expanded Goku's role. In the manga, he's support.
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>>154689958
>he liked Trunks somehow learning the mafuba in a matter of minutes
Fuck off.
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>>154689511
>Meaning transforming into SSG without ever needing the SSG Ritual is not from Toriyama
See gif

>Where in the movies is there SSG Vegeta
I didn't say "SSG Vegeta" but "Vegeta becoming a god" (not only talking about SSB). Movies have two gods Vegeta (beyond god and SSB) and manga two gods as well (SSG and SSB).

>You know DBH is as canon as Garlic Jr right?
I know, that's why I said we only use the name for convenience. What about your reading comprehesion?

>You can't simultaneously believe that Base Manga!Goku/Vegeta = SSG when Manga!Goku/Vegeta transform into SSG.
Good, because I don't believe such a thing, your reading comprehesion is been a pain in the ass again. SSG in base replacing actual SSG is from the movies, and just SSG is from the manga.

>old continuity (anime movies)
>Goku and Vegeta regular forms are SSG in base forms now (they also can go SSGSS)

>new continuity (manga series)
>Goku and Vegeta can go from base to SSG at will now (they also can go SSGSS)

Movies used "beyond god" and manga series keeps using actual SSG, but the issue is that Vegeta having SSG's power is part of Toriyama story, Vegeta having SSG's power after a year of training with Whis is Toriyama's
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>>154685074
Hey smugpupfag have you thought of doing a sidestory about smugpup using this design? I've grown really attached to your portrayal, even if it's meant to be a joke, of this character.
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>>154689916
But anon it doesnt count because Vegeta is switching between god forms even though what Vegeta did condradicts what happened during Vegeta vs Hit. Seriously the rule is that you can only use 10% of SSB's power if you transform again in a short period of time which is what Vegeta was doing. Holy shit how can people be so dense
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>>154689987

One day Goku will take the bullshit with Kaioken too far, and it will fail, and his body will implode on itself.

Vegeta and King Kai would be like "We fucking warned you"
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>>154689958
>trunks learning the mafuba from a how to vid by piccolo
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>>154689631
Vegeta uses SSB to attack, anon. This is SSB Vegeta vs SSR Black again (as it was in the anime) except that Vegeta switches between SSG and SSB (which make him more efficient)

also
>scared
what
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>>154690016
>Toyataro is a Vegetafag
Oh it all makes sense now. Well I'll just stick with the anime unless Toriyama decides to come back
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>>154689655
>no argument
Good
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>>154689391
(You)
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>>154690056
Last time he ignored King Kai he went from nearly dying to Kaioken×4 to being able to use Kaioken×20. Vegeta can only be a jobber in the anime now that Goku can spam Kaioken again
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>>154690104
Are you stupid? Manga Goku isn't any better and Toyo has no qualms whatsoever with making Goku look like a dumbasss.

This isn't either Toyo or Toei's fault. If it happens in both versions, that means it's something Toriyama did.
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>>154690026
Sorry I forgot the fucking gif
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>>154690150
Vegeta always sucked. None his techniques are good while Goku knows the best techniques in existence
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>>154690191
>Manga Goku isn't any better
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Can't we just all agree that super is shit in general and that the only reason why the Zamasu arc was enjoyable was because of the memes?
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>>154689960
Better than the garbage happening in the manga right now.
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>>154690191
>"not any better"
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>>154689772
>animedroning
Kek, you people are fucking pathetic. Both the manga and anime are shit. And you acting like one is better than the other just proves how fucking far the standards of this fanbase have fallen.
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>>154690247
you mean the same thing that happened in the anime?
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Why is he so pretty?
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>>154685175
I don't think I'd want to see Vegeta ssg. It's cool that they did it but the blue fits him more than red
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Toei is a top tier animation company.
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>>154690301
>t. Zamasu
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>>154690236
I'm enjoying Super because it introduced me to smugpupfag, His presence in super threads and smugpup banter in general is making me enjoy Super more than I should do.
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>>154690204
>tfw Cell and Buu didn't use any of his techniques except for galick gun
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Release it already
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>>154690295
It's nothing like what happened in the anime, you retard.
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>>154690301
Zamasu pls
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>>154690347
>they go back to the future
>vegeta beats black
>zamasu gets mafuba'd
>he escapes and fuses with black
the same shit just with different flavors
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>>154690301
Is it really masturbation if the other you is using the body of someone you hate?
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>>154690236
why should everybody agree with your opinion?
I have enjoyed Super both the animu and mango also no the memes are not the only thing enjoyable thing about that saga

RoF is a turd for the most part though
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>>154686027
>Zamasu
CRAAAAWLING IN MY SKIIIIIIN
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>>154690403
I like to think Zamasu and Black do humiliating things to Goku's body.
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>>154690397
Ever heard of a little thing called "detail"? You might want to look it up.
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>>154690058
How did Goku learn it?
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>>154690462
toriyamas story boards don't have details
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>>154690283
One has plotholes upon plotholes, using plotholes and asspulls to veer itself forward.

The other actually functions as a story.
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I hate this fucking fanbase. Can't even properly discuss a manga chapter because you faggots have an agenda to prove a side wrong

Is there any forum out there that doesn't have this bullshit?
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>>154689852

Without Bulma, who couldve fixed the time Machine? All wouldve died at the hands of Zeno.
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>>154690491
I'm not talking about Toriyama's storyboards, genius. I'm referring to the manga.
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- Vegeta having SSG with no absolutely zero mention of him doing the SSG Ritual

- SSG Vegeta beating SSR Black...after SSB Vegeta got beaten by SS Black. I know he trained but that power jump is beyond ridiculous.

- Goku using the Mafuba instead of Trunks/Mai because Toyo prefers it to be the Goku/Vegeta show

- Goku confused the Mafuba Seal with a fucking credit card. And he's supposed to be "smart" (still didn't know what a kiss was)

/OUR GUY/!!!
>>
who are kanzenshuu members here
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>>154690518
SEETHING
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>>154690562
Everyone.
:^)
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>>154690518
And they're the only fanbase who does it. Every other fanbase loves both mediums, like the yugioh fanbase.

DB fans are cancer.
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>>154690504
Yeah even though we mock Toei at least their Super has a plot
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>>154690585
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>>154690201
Gif is him using it for a second. It could still be temporary and he could've just used the last bit of God ki from the Ritual.

Either way, right after that gif Beerus commented on Goku absorbing SSG, which is why he kept up as SS1
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