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So i realized a trend a long time ago, most shows only go up

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So i realized a trend a long time ago, most shows only go up to 2 seasons, with usually a cliffhanger ending the show. What happen to long term anime that actually conclude the plot and have us invest in the show? To be honest i'm kind of sick of it, there literally no show worth watching cause they all end like this.

>The only exception was like Jojo
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Those times are all gone like tears in the rain.
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>>154645137
Is there even a point to watch any new shows if you know they won't end?
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Each Konosuba season ends well. Comedy and SOL generally end well, really.
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>>154645161
No. And it doesn't matter if it sells well or not. You're fucked anyway because the number of episodes or seasons is planned in advance and that will not change.
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>>154645161
Well you can always do what the Milky Holmes fans did a few years ago and threaten the studio with a mass suicide if they didn't make a new season.
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>>154645225
I would be okay with it the season ending, but most shows just stop at season 2 with the conclusion being "Oh we're continuing the journey btw!"

>Madaka box
>seraph of the end
>World god only knows
>Baka to test
>Magical index
>Shokugeki no souma

Because of this system i'm watching shows like fucking Rwby because i at least know the shows not gonna fucking tease me with a cliffhanger and be "nah we done"
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>>154645316
>i'm watching shows like fucking Rwby
>>>/co/
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>>154645314
Lol i'm pretty sure that show was terrible
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Most are advertisement anyway, enjoy your newness anon.
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>>154645336
Yo you right, look at how shit its become.

>>154645332
To fill the shitty gap anime is
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>>154645114
Most anime based on LNs is just an advertisement for the LNs. The whole point is for you to go out and buy the rest of the story on LNs. The production companies literally don't care about finishing the anime, it was never even part of the plan. This is why you should try to avoid LN animes.
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>>154645114
just read the damn books
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>>154645361
Thats what i've been doing, but literally most shows are adaptions of something, no originality anymore.
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>>154645114
>>154645316
You even remotely care about the show you could always just continue on and read the fucking source material that's usually at least twice as good as the dumb anime you dumb fucking idiot
but no that would never occur to you because you're fucking stupid
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>>154645114
Who are you quoting?
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>>154645368
Watching anime is the hobby, not fucking reading. I want sound, effects and animations, if i wanted to read i'll read, if i want anime tits i want anime tits
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>>154645361
And it's absolutely fucking stupid.
Here's a product made by dozens of people, it includes music, voice acting, animation, multiple artistic inputs of all kinds. It took time and resources.
It's made to promote some shitty short novel some asshole typed in his basement. Please buy it and read on your japanese commute to your shitty workplace.
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>>154645361
It's really a shame because I notice with LN adaptations, the characters tend to be a lot better.
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>>154645377
And now you see the problem in the industry. This shit is gonna fall on itself eventually. You can't have a whole industry where its main product it's not even its main product. The anime industry ends up relying more and more on obsessive weebs who only want pandering shows, you can't live on that forever.
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>>154645378
i will if i invested, but there a difference then watching an anime to reading a book
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>>154645316
>Magical index

That's what you think buddy.
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>>154645368
I watch anime to watch anime, not to read poorly written fan fiction tier writing.
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>>154645441
Yeah the LN is finished, the fan-based moved on... there is almost no chance of them going in the story

>>154645442
Agreed
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>>154645114
>>The only exception was like Jojo
While an argument for what you're noticing does exist, I'm really getting the feeling you're just some newfriend who recently "graduated" from Jump anime to late night anime and are all of a sudden wondering "what gives?"
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>>154645442
So it's ok if the poorly written fanfic writing comes with moving pictures and sound?
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Man, OP just realizing this and want things to go his way is making me internet angry.There is new and there is new and retarded. Oh look, retard is watching shit like rwby.
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>>154645430
Yeah reading is ten times faster easier and better.
The anime is usually some half assed adaptation that makes you want to read the LN, over the anime it's only drooling retards that watch the anime and end up coming out wanting more of the schlock instead of the original
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>>154645465
>Yeah the LN is finished, the fan-based moved on... there is almost no chance of them going in the story

What world are you from my dude?
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Studio Shaft said they will adapt Monogatari in its entirety so there's one series besides Jojo I guess.
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>>154645418
Production companies don't give a fuck. They quite literally are pumping out this LNs at the speed of light. And unlike the American book market a lot of this LNs are just pandering fantasies with mad libs thin plots. But LNs are way cheaper to produce so they use anime only as an ad to get people to buy the higher profit margin LN. Most anime nowadays has zero interest in being interesting art
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>>154645466
I mean it is an issue right? you have to agree how anime is basically a commercial for their source material, and that no originality or care is put into it except for the rare exceptions.
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>>154645507
You're painting with a brush that's way too broad.
Or, you're narrowing in on LN adaptations.
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>>154645480
You don't miss those days where anime were just fun to watch with great stories and characters to get invested into? now there just cash grabs, i mean of course i'm disappointment, i feel like anyone who likes anime should be.
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>>154645465
Index LN is still ongoing in the form or New Testament, the fanbase is thriving and a 3rd season of the anime is on the way.
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>>154645542
Same for manga too
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>>154645557
>a 3rd season of the anime is on the way.
cute
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>>154645546
You mean when our catalog of anime was limited to what Toonami and Adult Swim ran?
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>>154645557
dude, don't hope on it... its been years. The animations studios moved on
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>>154645571
I can understand why you'd think I'm memeing. Still, do some research.
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>>154645575
Well the long term shows that you loved, inuyasha, yu yu hakusho, sailor moon, DBZ just the classic anime that had a long run
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>>154645334
Yes but they did get a new season.
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>>154645575
At least those stories had a beginnings and an ends. Unlike this "lol go buy the LN, continue the adventure senpai" endings.
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>>154645618
yep the milky suicide worked
>I watched the first episode and it was trash[/spoiler]
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>>154645613
Anime like that still exist. The problem is that you are now aware of so many anime that aren't like that because you aren't depending on western middlemen to give you anime anymore.
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>>154645652
I'm talking about new shows with no ending. Those shows still exist, but they came years ago. Detective Conan and one piece don't count..... and yeah i'm watching those....
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>>154645114
>>154645316
>>154645377
>>154645546
>>154645684
How much money have you put into the anime industry?
How many BDs do you own?
Oh that's right, ZERO.
Who do you think is going to pay for all the crap you're asking for?
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>>154645546
I'd rather have a cash grab series than having "lets beat the dead horse" series to watch since fortunately I got the ability to choose.
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>>154645684
So basically you're looking for recommendations.
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>>154645736
You actually have a great point, but i don't buy the Dvd i have netflix supporting somes showes and the anime lead me to buying the mangas which is kinda like killing itself since none of the money goes to the animation studios. Why don't they go with the american rating system? Where they paid by commericals, and views?

>>154645768
You right you do, but all those shows will have cliffhangers and leave you blue balled
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>>154645829
sure, whatcha got mate?
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>>154645114
You just made me remember Spice and Wolf.
Fuck I will never get over this adaptation.
>inb4 read the LN
THE COMEDIC DELIVERY IN THE LN ISN'T THE SAME DAMN IT
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>>154645890
And you will never get a 2nd season!
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>>154645914
there was a second season, but it was a shitty "the journey continues" ending and overall not much happened plot-wise
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Anime are generally just advertisements for the source material. News at 10.
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>>154645926
well then... i feel for you...
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Even the anime producers know it's an inferior medium, fit only for advertising a superior one.

Why can't you realize it?
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>>154645967
then explain this! Clearly someone cared about this one
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Fuck off with your long winded rec thread nigger and fuck off to >>>/co/
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>>154645996
Is Trigger the only company who can save this medium?
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>>154646015
I don't think i'm black, and i don't like comics. I like anime ya faggot
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I can still feel the Raildex fans' rage resonate.
Stay strong, you guys.
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>>154645114
It's not related to anime in general but to LN to anime conversions.
There's basically a certain balance that they try to achieve since publishers wants you to buy the LN AND watch the anime, not just do one or the other, this is also true for manga conversions, it can end up being more lucrative to have the anime just be some kind of long advertisement than a full fledged product.
After all the biggest revenue from the animu industry are goods, they want you to BUY shit and give them money directly instead of getting them from sponsors on TV.
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>>154646040
Not even they didn't even finish Inou-Battle in the Usually Daze, but they're going in a better direction
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>>154646077
Didn't Index just get a season 3?
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>>154646077
s3 soon(tm)
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>>154645474
Where do you think we are?
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>>154646124
who told you that?
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I agree OP and its really sad
Thats why I mostly watch old anime where you could tell there was an attempt at storytelling instead of being nothing more than an ad for merch
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>>154646124
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>>154646124
Kek. You're so mean, anon.
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>>154646293
Let's not be ridiculous here, past animes had their fair share of pandering and merchandising.
Do I have to remind you of shit like Love Hina, Maison Ikkoku or just anything from Rumiko Takahashi.
Hell mecha and superhero shows were literally made to sell toys.
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>>154645114
Anons not realising that the Anime is only a marketing vehicle for sales of the Manga.

Why have a fulfilling end when you have to go out and by the REAL product?
Yes Anon. your hobby is adverts.
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>>154646339
Nice strawman, I never said or implied any of that.
Of course merch was always a factor but never this bad
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>>154645618
actually we just got a movie

futari wa and the idolshit just barely count as Milky Holmes
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>>154645996
Oh look its looney toons with underage girls.
Trigger should just move to america already.
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>>154646360
You were implying nothing, you've stated that past animes had more care with plots and less with merchandising which is false
I gave you an example of anime that were just as bad, if not worse, than the generic shit we get nowadays.
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Why do you faggots always think having more is better? Further seasons are always worse, always. Fuck you.
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>>154646419
>which is false
No it isnt.
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>>154646423
>Further seasons are always worse, always.
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>>154646425
Really ?
For every Harlock there was a Ranma 1/2.
For every Galaxy 999 there was a Love Hina.
For every Sailor Moon there was a CC Sakura.
The shows back then could be as good or bad as the shows nowadays.
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>>154646471
And today things like Harlock dont even exist and could never exist without a big LN or manga behind it.
So yes shit has gotten worse in that regard
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>>154646423
>>154646447

Its not about having more season, its about ending the show properly. Most shows don't even have an ending, thats why i hate it.
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>>154646423

If the manga is still continuing they should continue until it ends.

>Not deviate from the source material and end a series in 2 seasons when there are 7 seasons worth of anime
>Imagine if Game of Thrones series ended in 2 seasons with a false ending. When there are like 6 books of A Song of Ice and Fire
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Remember when anime adaptations had original anime endings and people hated it?
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>>154646497
Why are you comparing novels and film with manga and anime? The two industries could not be further apart. Anime adaptations are ads for the manga, it is literally as simple as that, I don't know why this is hard to comprehend.
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>>154646497
>comparing a AAA live action series to anime

Anon, come the fuck on. You realize how fucking niche anime is right, when selling 10k is a major achievement.
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>>154646514
Thats one way they handled it, and everyone hated it. Maybe idk WAIT? But then people will argue the fan base would leave... lol anime amiright
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>>154646497
Stop being a moron.
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>>154646523
>>154646526
>>154646562

>My hobby is trash, corporations are always right! Think of the profits man!
>The state of /a/
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>>154646488
Code Geass, Gurren Lagann, Madoka Magica, Kill la Kill, LWA, etc., what you're saying is simply not true, the industry is still willing to take risks today as it was back then.
The only difference is that studios are bigger and profits are a bigger concern.
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>>154646573

Why do they hate themselves and demean their own interests?
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>>154646573

Someone gets it
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>>154646573
What do you want? Its a business and as things stands is this or nothing.
The OVA market didnt die on purpose killed by jews it died because no one was buying anymore this led to the current state of having to look for sponsors
There is no place for independent animators because animation is expensive and not enough people want to pay for it
Its reality anon
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>>154646582
I hated all those shows
So maybe I just like 80s style anime better.
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>>154645114
>aku no Hana
>Alien 9
>Baccano!
>Berserk
>Black lagoon
>Darker than black
>Date a live
>Elfen lied
>Fmp
>Baki
>gunslinger girl
>Kaiji
>World God only knows
>kiss x sis
>Kodomo no jikan
>Log horizon
>Narutaru
>Mysterious girlfriend X
>Rozen maiden
>Shimoseka
>Trigun
>usagi drop
FUCK ANIME!
Why do I keep falling for it?
No really, I invested 4-8 hours into these fuckers, and I got no fucking payoff. These fuckers should learn how to end shows. From now on, I'm gonna do my research, and only watch shows that have an ending.
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>tfw noragami season 3 never
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>>154646629
>Log horizon
pay denbts
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>>154646600
>as things stands is this or nothing
I'd take nothing, frankly. Either finish a series properly, or don't waste my time and toy with my expectations.
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>>154646573
It's literally an industry that makes money. You asked why x happens and that's the reason. It doesn't matter if you like it or not, that's just the fact of it. Fuck off idiot.
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>>154646600

I'm not saying all anime series deserve it.

But Konosuba not getting a third season? It would almost certainly be profitable for them.

Unless we would prefer a 30 minute demo of a game and then be told to buy a storybook to learn how the story really ends.

>Two completely different mediums just to get to one ending
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Will we get more longer shows with actual endings, if the japanese economy starts flourishing again?
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>>154646629
ITS A FUCKING STRUGGLE MAN! But i feel you, animes always leaving us blue balled. When i'm about to watch a show i usually look up what it is LN, manga or original, it helps a little.
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>>154646653
>konosuba

And look at the quality of season 2. They already know the show prints money regardless of quality or content. You faggots just don't know what you want.
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How bad are the official light novel translations?
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>>154646642
The guy did pay his debts after he was called out on it, and the media made it look much worse after it was already over.
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>>154646674
The light novels themselves are bad, so the translations are even worse.
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>animes
Fuck off.
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>>154645316
>Shokugeki no souma
http://www.droidreport.com/articles/3902/20170316/food-wars-shokugeki-no-soma-season-3-could-premiere-on-july-1-with-13-episodes.htm
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>>154646695
I FUCKING LOVE ANIMES
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>>154646653
>It would almost certainly be profitable for them.
People need to understand that just because something would be profitable doesnt mean its the best choice to make because animating something else could be even more profitable, maybe struck a better deal with another LN and they will get more profits even if it sells less
So its not that companies hate money like so many people like to chant, its that probably they saw a bigger opportunity elsewhere.
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>>154646695
>memes
How about you fuck off.
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>>154646719

I agree, there is an opportunity cost for producing anime. Not like discussing it on /a/ would change anything, just a forum to share our opinions.
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>>154646730
>memes
Kill yourself.
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>>154646719
Sometimes the author, or more likely the publisher, will just see no point in further licensing their IP and just go on with the novels while striking deals for goods for better profits.
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>>154646664
Sometimes you can tell that if a show will get a second season, by who is making it, the state of the source material and how well it is doing.
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>>154646708
Oh hell yeah, i never even knew. I thought they were just leaving it to rot
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>>154646674
it's a lot smoother to read than the fanfiction which is pretty stilted
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>>154646694
I'll rephrase my question. How accurate are the translations?
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Most anime exists to be advertisement.

They want you to go and buy the source material if you want more. Which sucks pretty hard for people not in japan, but japan generally doesn't care about us.
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>>154645316
World god only knows got a third season that skipped a whole arc just to do the goddess arc, not to mention the 4 ovas and 2 spinoff ovas
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>>154645483
Did anime kill your parents?
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>>154646648
So basically you want everything for free and you want the best, right?

Fuck off
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>>154647496
How did you get that opinion anon?
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>>154646670
Animation quality isn't a few still images. Animation in Konosuba 2 is way better than in the first season. Just the first few episodes were bad.
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>>154647598
You know what, I'm gonna back off for a moment. It's been a long night and this thread got me angry over all these self-entitled idiots.

Now, for a proper opinion:
Japanese television isn't American television, where they will toss an idea at the crowd and, if it's even remotely successful, will milk it dry to the point that it feels dead after a second season.

I think I'd rather have a taste of what they can do for a season or two. If they don't make profits enough from it all after that, then why bother making a third and finish things off.

Either way, sorry for lashing out on my reply earlier.
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>>154647650
>where they will toss an idea at the crowd and, if it's even remotely successful, will milk it dry to the point that it feels dead after a second season.
Right, thats only the manga and LN industry which actually dictates what anime gets made

So in a way it is.
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>>154647677
Honestly, I'd rather have just the one or two seasons adaptations of LN or manga, then just pick up where the anime left off.

Or, better option, just start anew on the manga/LN so that I can spot the major/minor changes they made and continue on from there.

Or, if you're shaft, just wait until it's all been animated to visually take it all in. One frame every second. Fucking page-by-page, 30fps text slideshows.
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>>154645114
Anime are most often merely advertisement for their adaptation. It's pointless to make more advertisement for something that's finished.
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>>154647496

You're a worthless casual who supports other worthless casuals raping our hobby with their incompetence. Men like you need to be thrown out of a fucking helicopter. Go post on the crunchyroll forums. Of all people, anon actually cares. If you don't then go pay for a netflix subscription.

>standards are bad
>all the great things I enjoy are the result of working within what is already known at maximum cost-efficiency
>nothing can be achieved by setting high standards and working hard to meet them

I couldn't hate "men" like you more.
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>>154647650
>If they don't make profits enough from it all after that, then why bother making a third and finish things off.
the thing everyone is unhappy about is they don't always continue stuff even if it's pretty much guaranteed profits
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>>154647823
So, let me try to understand what it is that you're saying.

Are you trying to say that you'd rather have a mass purge of any and all projects unless it meets your nondescript standards of which every studio needs to follow?

Tell me, then. What are these standards you want to so greatly uphold?

Also, how would you then expect for any new kind of experimental projects that investors will blindly jump to with little to no promise of return?

Are you even capable of business?
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>>154647867
I mean, if a third season would surely finish everything, then hell yes by all means. But, if a third season wouldn't cover the rest of the materials, and sales are declining to the point that it wouldn't even break even then it would just be a black hole for money to fall in.

It would look bad on all of those that are involved in the project, and any future projects would then garner less funding.
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>>154647888
>>154647823
>>154647598

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!
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>>154647916
>>154647867

Yeah i understand through the business stand point, but through as a "connoisseur" of the animes, you kind of get sick of every anime doing this shit. it makes you not want to watch any of the new anime
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>>154647970
Then don't. If you're a "connoisseur" as you like to call yourself, you should be able to spot complete trash from miles away. Pay them no mind. You'll quickly learn that the right people won't either.

Though, there will always be those virgin pandering shows/series that will forever manage to somehow make money. Those you won't see coming, even if they show up right in front of your face.
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>>154647916
yeah but the wave of extra seasons of older series announced recently shows that they can think a series can still be profitable to them and still hold it back for a long time, so profitability can't be the only motive
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>>154647970
>>154648049
To add to this point, it's why I was so glad that the Disappearance of Yuki Nagato didn't get any more air time than it did. I loved the manga, but god damn the anime adaptation was just horrible.

Everything about it just screamed BUDGET as if it were bloody murder.
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I'm not going to read this thread but sequels are practically always less profitable than new properties because the target audience is limited to those that have seen the first season. Rather than targeting a limited audience with an expensive sequel anime, the recent industry trend is to instead release multimedia projects which can cross-promote each other across different markets (anime, manga, live events, novels, etc) for a synergistic effect on franchise growth, without having to rely on a single expensive gambit.
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>>154648071
As far as that goes, it's the same thing that happens with video games.

"Hey, remember that one thing we did years ago that you all loved? Well, we're revisiting that world~ We might not have all of the same staff, but we're going back there! You guys remember, right? How cool we used to be?"

That being said, I'm waiting to see how the new Code Geass will fare.

Either way, same motive as with the video game industry. They see that it was popular at one point, so they will give it a shot to see if they can regain that same fanbase and get more to jump in.
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>>154648071
It shows stagnation and that there hasnt been a big series in years
They are desperate
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>>154648083
sequels can also serve to drive up new interest in the original from people going "these people are really excited for this sequel, maybe I should check it out from the beginning"
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>>154648071
Just how it goes. It has a name and has been long enough that with new generations, it will be brand new to them and they can get hyped about it from the older generation that loved the original.
Its basically guaranteed profit and isn't a huge risk most of the times.
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>>154648142
>there hasnt been a big series in years
Many big recent shows have been way more successful than the old shows that are getting rebooted.

>>154648151
That's not how it works, and even if it was, it's nothing compared to having an audience that is, so to speak, unlimited.
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>>154645137
They have passed like rain on the mountain, like wind in the meadow.
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>>154648228
it does though, take code geass I guarantee you a ton of anons that never watched it before are going to go back and watch the old stuff because the new season is coming out
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>>154647888

>So, let me try to understand what it is that you're saying.

The gist of it is that you're a faggot who is literally too stupid to use paragraphs.

>Tell me, then. What are these standards you want to so greatly uphold? Are you trying to say that you'd rather have a mass purge of any and all projects unless it meets your nondescript standards of which every studio needs to follow?

Artists who actually want to create quality content and get it as right as they can, not compromising for the sake of "well we can still kind of do a decent job and maybe earn some money, I guess. That'll be good enough." No faggot, get a job if that's what you think, don't spam the artform with your trash content because you're an incompetent who lives within economic boundries he poorly understands and uses them as a justification for not caring about quality.
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>>154648680
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>>154645502

Well gintama goes on! There is hope people
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>>154648727

What jokes are you going to make when there is no more good content?
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>>154648680
>The gist of it is that you're a faggot who is literally too stupid to use paragraphs.

Says someone who shamelessly used a run-on sentence.

Look, what you're looking for exists. It's what Little Witch Academia was created from. Then there's also the whole Japan Animator Expo that went on for a while. That right there is what you're asking for.

However, what you're wishing for is the economically and commercially irresponsible. You're literally asking them to throw away money for what you wish were early 90's OVA quality animations for every single episode. Shit like that doesn't exist unless you're willing to put the same amount of money that Cartoon Network tosses at crap like Adventure Time.

Now get your ass out of the ground and start accepting reality. If you want you dream anime to be a reality, then start ponying up the money for it. Make you dream come true and stop spouting crap as if you're a messiah.
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>>154646629

But darker than black ended anon, with a damned weird ending but it ended. There is no ln or manga for future references... That ending you saw in the second season is all what's left
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>>154648785
it's a fact of reality that
>Artists who actually want to create quality content and get it as right as they can, not compromising for the sake of "well we can still kind of do a decent job and maybe earn some money, I guess.
are a rarity in pretty much every medium that ever existed, for every quality classic anime you can name there were twenty produced at the same time that were utter trash
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>>154646629
>Trigun
U wot ma8?
Anime had it's own end.
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>>154648795

>You're literally asking them to throw away money for what you wish were early 90's OVA quality animations for every single episode.

No you faggot I want them to TRY to make something good instead of giving up with an economic excuse and accepting shit quality as the new standard. TALENT will create my dream content, not a sufficient flow of money. TALENT can revive the industry. TALENT can make things work within the limits they have to put up with. They may be hindered by the health of the industry, but that is no excuse to forego quality.
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>>154648935
I think this anon is stuck in some sort of pseudo-reality he created for his delusions. Let's let him be.
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>>154648945
I would love to live in this dream world of yours that only exists in your head. It's as if you don't understand that anime exists as a business or something.
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>>154648951

The world is wasted on 'men' like you
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>>154648973

I would hate to live in your dystopian future where we all consume marvel-tier content and nothing else because it's all we can expect from artists. You have no standards and want everyone else to come down to your level so you can have slightly more low-grade content. You're pathetically selfish and obviously have never worked hard on something you care for in your life.
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>>154648680

You are in the wrong hobby dude.
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>>154648945
Also, honestly, one of the biggest changes they can make is to stop giving so much money to seiyuu. THEN they can focus on putting more effort into the animation section, and maybe even the writing and production staff involved.

>>154648983
Also, why are you so affixed on that?

>>154649004
You're asking for the world to change to your delusional whims, man. You need to learn to chill, things aren't going to change overnight, or in a couple of years. People are fucking stupid and will flock to what promotional material tells them is good.

If you want to make things better, you need to put some effort into it yourself. I've been doing my part for years, but a single person can only do so much.

Also, what this person said: >>154649022
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>>154649004
your lack of life experience is showing, that isn't some dystopian future it's always been like that and you're just looking at the past through rose-tinted glasses
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>>154649004
Are you really saying that it's selfish to want other people to work for payment?
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>>154649053

Your defeatist attitude is pathetic and your economic justification is extremely simplistic, while your "lack of life experience" line is entirely projection.

>>154649051

There is nothing stopping a studio from making a plan for a show and executing it as well as they can. Animation quality can suffer but there is no excuse for not trying to write a good narrative or good characters. Animation quality can suffer but there is no excuse for hardly trying to do the source material justice. All it takes is a good idea and decent execution to make a show that is highly worth watching. Superfaggot up there thinks I want each individual frame to be a masterpiece instead of just wanting a show where the artists tried to do something justice instead of making yet another horrible safe bet.
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>>154649172
From the sounds of it, you seem to already have a masterpiece in your head.

You can call whoever's attitude whatever you can, but it's all a matter of perspective at that point. Regardless of what you want to call it, it also sounds like you also really don't know what you want. It's just making it sound like you just want every anime to be produced to be a Shakespearean masterpiece.
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>>154649222

>You can call whoever's attitude whatever you can,

You are such a faggot
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>>154649172
you calling anything simplistic is hilarious when your view is "money shouldn't matter, I demand my wants be met!", and you should look up what words like projection mean before you go throwing them around, nothing I said demonstrates a lack of life experience unlike the pure naiveté your posts ooze with
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>>154649274
And you're out of arguments. Cool.
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>>154649299

>"money shouldn't matter, I demand my wants be met!"

Your inability to admit you're wrong has now led you to argue with someone who doesn't exist. This is what I actually said, literally:

>There is nothing stopping a studio from making a plan for a show and executing it as well as they can. Animation quality can suffer but there is no excuse for not trying to write a good narrative or good characters. Animation quality can suffer but there is no excuse for hardly trying to do the source material justice.
>Superfaggot up there thinks I want each individual frame to be a masterpiece instead of just wanting a show where the artists tried to do something justice instead of making yet another horrible safe bet.

The problem is you were too insulted by my first posts and will now never stop clutching the "you think money is irrelevant so ur dumb" line. You didn't even read this post. You don't care about quality, after all. Endless high school slice of life anime rehashes it is!
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>>154645114
Most shows recently are just 12-13 episodes per season
Thus two seasons is like a normal season
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>>154649345
you said, and I quote
>No faggot, get a job if that's what you think, don't spam the artform with your trash content because you're an incompetent who lives within economic boundries he poorly understands and uses them as a justification for not caring about quality.
so you acknowledge that economic boundaries exist, it's just you're too young and haven't had to live without mommy and daddy paying for everything so you don't understand what those boundaries are. I can see real life is going to be a total bitch once she finally hits you
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>>154649504

>it's just you're too young and haven't had to live without mommy and daddy paying for everything

This is ultimate projection now. I have had to overcome actual economic adversity, and have lived on my own for the past 8 years. YOU are the one writing from that perspective, you obnoxious cunt. Why can't people like you not stop themselves from being such faggots?

economic boundries
are not
excuses
to make
shit content
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>>154645853
I'm not that anon, but I do have a recommendation.
Try watching Pretty Cure (or PreCure for short)
It is an annual anime that's in it's 14th season right now
Each season is 50 episodes with actual complete story
It's fully original, no adaptations.
Obviously each season have separate storylines with different characters
There were only two sequel seasons - 2 and 5.
Sure, it's a Mahou Shoujo, but it's a GOOD Mahou Shoujo with Dragon Ball styled combat. It's really action oriented.
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>>154649561
you keep demonstrating you don't even know what projection means you stupid cunt, it's childlike to spend without caring and adult to practice fiscal responsibility so I by definition can't be projecting by calling you on being a fucking child
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>>154649635

>copying my insults in your own reply
>still projecting this hard

You're falling apart, anon.
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>>154649761
>copying my insults
see this is something a child would say, you child
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>>154649789

So you're just outright calling me a liar now because you lost the argument, and have taken to ignoring everything I've said that you don't have a snarky reply to. You're one of the most pathetic anons I have ever met.

>There is nothing stopping a studio from making a plan for a show and executing it as well as they can. Animation quality can suffer but there is no excuse for not trying to write a good narrative or good characters. Animation quality can suffer but there is no excuse for hardly trying to do the source material justice.
>Superfaggot up there thinks I want each individual frame to be a masterpiece instead of just wanting a show where the artists tried to do something justice instead of making yet another horrible safe bet.
>Economic boundaries are not excuses to make good content
>I have had to overcome actual economic adversity, and have lived on my own for the past 8 years. YOU are the one writing from that perspective, you obnoxious cunt.

Your lack of talent is not acceptable, anon. Get to work. Stop being a gigantic faggot.
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>>154649845
>There is nothing stopping a studio from making a plan for a show and executing it as well as they can
Yes there is
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>>154649845
everything you've said belies a total lack of life experience as pointed out to you repeatedly by multiple anons, and even your method of arguing is childlike. I really should have listened to this anon >>154648951 and just avoided arguing with your delusions in the first place since it's obvious nothing short of finally experiencing real life and having to grow up is going to change your mind. now go ahead and do the childish thing and crow about how much of a winner you are since I've realized you're thick as a brick and this is truly pointless
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>>154650027

Denial, projection, avoiding the argument, all in order to defend zero-effort content. Truly you are a faggot through and through.
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>>154645114
OP, its just how cancer the anime industry is. They are just interested in moneytizing the LN/manga and don't give a shit about the anime ,even if its god tier.
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>>154645114
The equation is simple.

>Line up a big production that may sell merchandise, or fail miserably. Hope that it works because you've got script for 7 fucking seasons.

vs

>Line up N piece of shit targeting all audiences, that will guaranty you a good amount of merchandising money. After S1, S2 for those that made good money. All others cancelled and replaced by same type of animu.

Never in this process is the plot ever considered.
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>>154645114
>not sure if I should start a new 12 episode show.
>it looks interesting, so I take a risk.
>show is really good.
>around episode 10 I realize that there is no way the story will end in 2 episodes.
>show ends
>I'm sad
>if I'm lucky, I get a new season in 3-5 years.
>happy about the sequel.
>watch it.
>it ends with a cliffhanger.
>it's only like 40% of the the original source material.
>the series is dead forever.
Every. Single. Time.
Why do I even bother with anime?
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>>154650198
Do your research and stop watching adaptations?
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>>154645114
>What happen to long term anime that actually conclude the plot and have us invest in the show?
That doesn't sell Manga or LN's anon.
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>>154646629
>>usagi drop
Only in Hentai OVA's could this continue.
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>>154646629

>investing time in Elfen Lied

I'm so sorry
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>>154650198
yep
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>>154648945
Did you know the word "talent" came from old greek civilizations where they called coins that were worth a lot a "talentos"? Just to put your post into perspective.
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>>154645418
You have to keep in mind that making money with TV anime is nearly impossible. You get one short commercial break an episode, and advertising rates are MUCH lower in Japan than in the US or Europe. The only exceptions are with huge name primetime mainstream stuff, and they still rely a lot on multimedia franchises and merchandising for their money.
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>>154646040
Trigger isn't gonna save shit. You know who could actually save anime. The west, because they wanna make money witn the show themselves. The east whole business model is garbage for anime, ita made like 70 percent of shows advertisements. Netflix/Hulu/Amazon/Crunchyroll on the other hand want an actual series and have no LNs to sell. For anime to be saved the whole business model needs to change and the only ones willing to do that are the west.
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>>154654657
>the west saving anime

Yea just let them ruin something else. It's not like video games suffered from the West's business model of focusing only on profit
>>
What's your opinions on how well the quality of an anime should be? Would you watch a full story if it was animated like Ninja Slayer?
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>>154657204
>the West's business model of focusing only on profit
Have you not been paying attention to this thread at all? The anime industry already does that. All that would change is which directions the profits nudge studios towards.
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>tfw prisma ilya fan
>gets an entire adaptation + movie
S I L V E R L I N K
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>>154645114
Yes this sucks, but this is why you do your research before starting an anime. There a plenty of original/finished anime out there. There are even times when the anime ends at the same time as the manga (I believe Kuzu no Honkai is doing this right now). And no, JoJo is not an exception. The odds of all parts being adapted are extremely unlikely I wonder if we'll even get Part 6 with how the sales keep declining.
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>>154645114
Anime is just advertising for the source in most cases.

This is why you don't watch adaptations unless you really love the series or something. Just go straight to the source material.
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