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Will Eizen be saved or not?
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Hopefully yes.
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Velvet will wake up and punch him in his dragon dick, causing him to revert. Then loli will be happy.
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Pray to sepherd overlord
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gay
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>baaang
cute
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OTP
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>more RoseAli
We're off to a great start already.
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>>154225297
>>>> """""saved"""""
Dragons are horribly corrupted Seraphim. Do you see a Seraphim from the dragon corpse Sorey ""purified""? No.

Eizen's getting wiped away, only this time with sparkles instead of blood.
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rekt
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>>154225775
It seems bow knight finally got rejected after but it's better than making it a harem.
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sekai no himitsu
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SUDDENLY VELVETO CROWE
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>>154225297
>new episode
>no seraph
They really did just use "purification" as a nicer way of saying that they killed it.
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derp
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>>154226018
He looks so out of place in that, that they just pasted his face onto the picture.
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>>154225990
Holy shit.
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more harem members
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Alisha, her 2 knights and zaveid are tagging along with Sorey for the rest now
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>>154226018
> It's a characters wear DLC clothes for no reason episode
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>>154226113
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>>154226093
Great, just what the story needed, more pointless chatacters. Alisha was a mistake.
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>>154226113
>>154226127
OTP
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here's some for fujos
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>>154226036
So about them birds
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>>154226172
>>154226218
GAAAAY
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>>154226218
>3 episodes left
Is this anime gonna be okay?
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We armatize now
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>we squire kamui now
oboi
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So is Dezelgoing to live this time?
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>>154226204
>normin eating shit next to Alishit and Shit

>>154225990
>>154226036
NANI
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>>154226274
Should have been obvious that it wasn't the moment they switched back to Alisha.
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>>154226314
> You will never be inside Rose
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Just finished Berseria, should I Replay the Zestiria game or watch the anime?
Sincerely, I don´t remember much about the plot, it just didn´t stick in, Berseria was far better.
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Rose is fucking shit.
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This episode was super comfy.
I really liked it. I wish the other ones had this much comfy slice of life too.
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>>154226357
Watch a Let's Play on YouTube. The anime is a waste of time, and doesn't really connect to Berseria anyway.
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>>154226359
>>154226372

They lost to the D
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It's getting a bit cramped here
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>>154226410
> This story spends way too much time on secondary characters
> You know what we need? More secondary characters!
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>>154226274
If it ends confirming a third game with Velvet and Sorey as protagonists yeah.
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>>154226410
Well, the only good thing about this anime is that Zaveid doesn't have to wear that fuckin hat, he looks so much better without it
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sasuga happy ending desu
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>Tales of Zestiria: everyone lives and happy ending edition
I am ok with this.
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>>154226435
Starting characters would be Sorey and Laphicet
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This show is so shit.
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>>154226435
>If it ends confirming a third game with Velvet and Sorey as protagonists yeah.

Has that ever happen? Ending the season with a game announcement?
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>>154226499

Matoleus or Innominat?
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>>154225297
I hope so. I want Edna to be happy.
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>>154226359
>>154226372
>the displeasure of being cummed inside.
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>>154226435
Except anime Sorey can't actually purify a seraphim as large as Lapichet without turning into a hellions himself. It'd be pointless to bring him along for anything.
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>>154226204
>>154226250
>ED1 clips
Neat, so it's not a dream world afterall
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>>154226525

Matoleus plot twist it was Innominat all along.
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>>154226525
Maotelus. Fuck Innominat, hated his voice, I just want my alpha shota back
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>>154226524
Not with Tales, no. And even then, anime that have sequel games come in two categories, those that finish telling the story that was being told in the anime or the anime finished it's story and the game is a new story.

ToZX doesn't fit any of these criteria.
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>everyone traveling together
>Rose and Alisha BFF
>possibly saving Eizen
They're retconning the game full force.
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>>154226036
ARTORIUUUSSSSSSS
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>>154226636
Makes me wish ToZX was just a full cutesy SoL series.
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>>154226141
She's a dyke.
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>>154226525
Maotelus and Sorey went to sleep togeher.
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>>154226636
The seraph wasn't shown in this episode and they're 3 episodes left. Eizen is going to be killed anon.

Besides to retcon something you actually need to be canon first. This is just an unfaithful adaptation.
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>>154226691
Yeah, sure. But it's clear from the happy direction they are on, killing Eizen is out of the window now.
Ufo just didn't care to animate the random seraph.
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>>154226636
Nii san will have to wait until Sorey wake up
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>>154226684
> Hundred year honeymoon
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay where da w̶h̶i̶t̶e̶ ̶w̶o̶m̶m̶y̶n shippas at?
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So, seeing as how happy everything is now.
Will they wake Velvet and give her a happy end too now?
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>>154225970
Did Lailah break her oath?
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>>154226783
Technically she didn't say much. She just gave him a book that he can read for himself.
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>>154226751
You mean fake happiness? They're just calling it purification instead of killing, but it's the same thing, the seraph doesn't survive it. This is actually less hopeful than the game, because at least the game didn't lie to you, and Sorey in the game actually ended up helping more people than just Alisha.
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>>154226845
> but it's the same thing, the seraph doesn't survive it.
This. The game doesn't say that everything can't be purified. It tells you that you can't purify them because it uses so much force that it kills them. In that case there's no difference between purification and execution because you're killing them either way.

I can't wait for Eizen to be burned off.
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Just finished Berseria and really enjoyed it. Am I better off watching Zestiria's anime or suffering through the game?
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>>154226780
She got her happy ending in her dreams.
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>>154226036
>>154225990

G-guys why do I hear autistic shrieking? Why does it keep yelling "ARTORIOUSUUUUUUUU?"
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>>154226924
Anytime that Sorey purified something and it died, the game acknowledged it. It never tried to hide or brush it under the rug that the person who turned into a hellion just died.
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>>154226965
If you're looking for Berseria references play the game. If you just want a short and easy thing in Zesty universe watch the anime.
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>>154226965
Watch a Let's Play of Zestiria the anime doesn't even have a plot.
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>>154227031
Neither does the game
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>>154227019
The anime doesn't even have the story.
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>>154227053
It has a garbage plot, but still a plot.
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>>154227057
That's not a minus, the game story is so boring and shitty it would have been better off without it.
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>>154227053
I think you're mistaking the game for the anime.
>The game
This evil guy wants to turn the world the shit and is manipulating two countries in order to do it

>Anime
>LOOK HOW AWESOME MY WAIFU ALISHA IS!!!!
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>>154226294
>Edna is inside Alisha

I was hoping for Zaveid but this is okay too
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>>154227053
If only that was true.
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>>154227103
They can be flatmates together
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>>154227084
And yet it's still better than the anime, and at least knew that it had to keep the side characters ay the side.
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So did anything noteworthy happen in this episode? Did Velvet appear at all? Was there anything about Eizen?
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>>154227146
Nope it's just another filler.
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>>154227146
Velvet got a cool mural in a book.
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>>154227146
Do like I do and download the 480p, skim through the episode to see if they talk about literally anything of note, and then delete it
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>>154227167
>>154227174
>>154227180

>3 episodes left
>Pointless filler

Okay, even as someone who was hopeful that this anime would retcon shit, this is turning into a shitshow. I'm getting sick of this shit. It's basically inevitable that they were planning for a third season of this garbage but realized it sold like shit so it will have a cliffhanger ending
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>>154227199
It is retconning shit.
They're gonna make Alisha is gonna armatize.
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>>154227230
Yeah and there's no way that it's going to have a meaningful ending at this rate
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>Rose is wearing one of Alisha's nightshirts
Cute and gay.
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>>154227199
Thing is because Ufotable is a small studio they made the second season well ahead of time so the shit sales of the first season didn't effect the anime's direction since, it wasn't until late last year when the second season was about to premiere that they found out that the first season wasn't as well received as they thought it was.
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>>154227230
And that means absolutely fuck all.
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>>154227339
>Alisha and Rose become best friends
>Alisha can armatize

What the fuck happened?
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>They'll try "purifying" Eizen
>It doesn't work and goes even more berserk
>Denzel sacrifices himself to stop him
It's going to happen and you'll like it.
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>>154227431
They fixed past mistakes, even if making new mistakes along the way.
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>>154227431
/u/fotable happened.
>Rose still can't call her by her name.
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>BERRUBETTO KURAO

Honestly with how much I enjoyed Berseria, I would've loved the scene of Sorey's bed-time reading of Berseria's plot to be a little longer.
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>>154227480
>Velvet eats Eizen and puts him out of his misery

Did that book that Lailah gave to Sorey have any importance at all aside from having a funny picture of Velvet?
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>>154227489
>Alisha not being able to armatize
>a mistake
Only to Alishafags

In fact most of the mistakes in the anime come from making her more prominent.
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>>154227431
They fixed the game
This is what the game should have been
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>>154227515
To trick Berseriafags into watching the anime.
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>>154227559
>Dezel and Zaveid

Okay, this is going so off the rails I don't even know anymore. Now I'm 99% sure that we're getting a Tales of Zestiria remake instead of a third universe game
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>"We're going to fix eveeerything about Zestiria!"
>What about the Lord of Calamity?
>"Wait! This character can armatize now. And this one. And this one."
>W-what about Heldalf?
>"Everybody, look under your chairs, now all the audience can armatize too!"
>What about developing Sorey? Mikleo? Edna? Lailah?
>"Let's all take a bath together! While armatized."
>Hey, what about learning about the past and saving the world?
>"Buy Velvet's game, okay! Thx goodbye
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Whats her endgame now?
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>>154227559
Funny thing is I actually don't care about Sorey, Zaveid or the seraphim like I did with the game. And Rose and Alisha are just obnoxious, so a scene of everyone hanging out didn't feel deserved because the anime never tried to make me give a shit about most of them.
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>>154226036
Maybe Bamco should had just replace the entire edited scene with this.
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>>154227594
The anime sold like shit, turns out Alishafags aren't nearly as numerous as people.
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>>154227594
Even the episode title is the world seen in the dream.

It's the dream world for players who got cucked by the bad plot.
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>>154227620
Seems like a good publicity stunt. I'll armatize with Edna then.
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>>154226218
Episode?
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>>154225370
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>>154227711
So they cuck the players with something even worse but try to pretend that everything is great anyway?
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>>154227749
This week.
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>>154227749
This one
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>>154227559

That's fucking stupid.
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>>154227739
>he doesn't know.
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>>154227760
It is great since every nips on 2ch and twitter praises it but >muh bad sales
It's never going to be selling great to begin with due to the game reputation.
Literally the only one I see complaining are western cucks.
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>tfw we'll never see Edna naked
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So what's supposed to happen next week?
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>>154225640
Did the seraphs do anything but mumble "Sorey" this episode?
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>>154227855
First half is Alisha and Rose armatizing, second half is their marriage ceremony.
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>>154227932
They actually did.
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>>154227699
>turns out Alishafags aren't nearly as numerous as people.

I don't like Alisha much, but I think her fans still qualify as humans.
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>>154227840
You mean the handful of people still bothering to watch it like it? Shocking. It never trends when it airs. It was more popular last season but fell off badly. Doesn't matter when they aren't buying it too.
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>>154227840
>but muh 2ch but muh twitter
Doesn't equate to financial success, nor is it reflection of general audience opinion. Only a dumb cuck would think that 2ch's opinion is worth anything. Or that twitter really means anything at all. The simple fact that they had to quickly switch resort to fujopandering when the sales figures for the first cour.

>Literally the only one I see complaining are western cucks.
Considering you hang out at 2ch, who reminder aren't a representation of general Nip opinion, and even then most Nips dropped it last season. The viewer count was going down steadily last season, ironically with each and every new scene with Alisha in it.
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>lesbian royal guards watch over Alisha and Rose cavorting as they bath

Hot.
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>>154227840
It's probably would of had sold way more if there was more fujo pandering since lets be honest the game main audience seem to be more aimed at fujos then anything else. Although, I never expected much from it to begin with because of how that whole game situation went down.
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>>154228000
It was a typo I meant to say that Alishafags aren't as numerous as her meme would lead you to believe.
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>>154226973

That whole ending was gut punching

At least Velvet went away thinking she had saved Phi
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>>154228048
Surely Alisha wouldn't mind if they joined in.
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>>154228054
Oh they tried to pander to fujo...after the anime first season was released, and they realized that they weren't making money off of Alisha and Rose.
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>>154228227
wrong picture
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>Alisha armatizing with Edna

What?
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This is The worst adaptation I've ever seen, holy shit. Hell, it isn't even an adaptation, it's an abomination. If you like this, I'm going to assume you're a secondary or just a shit eater who will settle for anything.
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>>154228304
Can't have two winds and Dezel already called dibs on Rose.
Lailah is too important.
Mikleo belongs to Sorey.
Edna is the odd one out.
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>>154228019
I'm not sure why people who stopped watching still shitposting in these threads either, but whatever.
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>>154228339
>stop having fun when I'm not
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>>154228339
Yeah, they totally destroyed the awesome story the game had.
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Can't armatize with Lailah since she's already doing it with Sorey.

Can't use Meebo or you threaten to anger the fujo.

>you want the rockloli, or the more buff badass manly wind guy?
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>>154228371
It's like watching a train crash it's horrible but you can't tear your eyes away. Some people are just watching to see how badly Ufotable can continue to fuck up.
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>we will never get a Berseria anime
The interactions in game are great and they feel like actual people. I can imagine it having potential as a full anime than just two episodes in this anime. Why even live?
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>>154228417
The game's story isn't good, but this is actually worse than it.
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>>154228376
>>154228417
Hey shiteaters
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I'm pretty sure the Rose/Alisha subtext is just text at this point.

>>154227647

"Everyone is alive and friends with each other. This sucks. Malevolence doesn't work like this."
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>tfw no naked Edna
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>>154228468
When will you realize that the people who enjoy this just aren't attached enough to Zestiria to care about muh lore or muh story and are just here for fun scenes?
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>>154228339
I feel happy for you if you think this is the worst adaptation you have ever seen. Because I can list at least a dozen others that are much worse than this.
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>>154228455
>I can imagine it having potential as a full anime

I can't. Anime adaptations are always made the laziest way imaginable, and the skits that actually build the characters are cut every time in favor of some OC bullshit.
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>>154228489
>Sirel staring at naked Alisha in the springs.
>Alisha staring at Rose's bare back
Can't get much gayer than this
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>>154228521
There's even worse Tales adaptations.
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>>154228519
Oh I know, people who like it are just Alisha and Rose waifufags who just want to see their waifus look cute.

The "fun scenes" aren't even fun.
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>>154228610
Worse than this?
Nope ToA's anime adaptation was dry but it wasn't this bad.
Same is true for the others.
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>>154228614
Don't know about you but the whole sequence with Calling was pretty warm, fuzzy and cute.
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>>154228521
That's pretty sad to hear anon. Name some, by the way.
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>>154228649
ToE anime was worse than this.
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>>154228654
>t. secondary waifufag
Can't wait for this cour to sell a whomping 1k and I never have to see Zestiria as a name again.
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>>154228654
I didn't, again the anime never gave me a reason to give a shit about the characters, so when they're hanging out I don't care.

If this was their game counterparts, which the anime is banking on people imagining them as,then I'd care. But these are their anime counterparts who've all been nothing but background noise for all of season 2.
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>>154225297
sorey will kill him
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>>154228700
It wasn't, it's dry as fuck but it wasn't as bad as this.
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So once again, what are the chances of a new game in this universe with Velvet and Sorey being announced?
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>>154228684
>Blazblue
>Devil Survivor 2
>Chaos;Head
>Umineko
>Disgaea

That's some of them.
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>>154228957
The anime isn't making the chances look any higher sempai
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>>154228958

>Devil Survivor 2 anime

Damn it you reminded of that PoS
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>>154226172
Why are they so perfect? Makes my heart go doki-doki whenever it's just the two of them together. Everyone else is just static.
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What did namco means by this?
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>>154226973
That's pretty deep bro
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>>154228957
Anime isn't canon worth a damn and it might end up as one of those 'everything was a dream' twists so no. Never.
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>>154227559
The scenario in your pic is a good one but the content of the anime is still garbage and zesty had issues beyond just story.
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>>154229068
Baba was "promoted" and then left.
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>>154229046
Right? You have to admit that is definitely worse than this anime.
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>>154229068
He got shafted, not surprising, considering everyone and their mother in japan seems to hate him now
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>>154229066
I don't see why. Their anime counterparts suck and their relationship might as well not exist at all anymore. Mikleo is headed for cuck ending if Sorey lives or sleeps.
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>>154229177
Zesty's problems in the story was really just
>Rose's existence
>Lailah never being told she was wrong
>Sorey being out of focus
>Mikleo being a boy
>Information on Hedalf coming in too late into the game for Sorey to react to it.
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Whelp, we're heading off the to the final battle
and it still doesn't feel like it at all
We went from Sorey wanting to do stuff with dragons, Alisha and Rose development for the next 15 episodes, and now everyone is coming together for the final battle
How the fuck did we get to this point?
How has Sorey progressed at all to be the only Shepard who can purify dragons if you don't show how
All the focus on the heroins took up all the time for team bonding and character interactions, took up time for cool fights and dynamic ufotable effects, took up time for showing the sate of the entire world filled with malevolence with Sorey coming to save them and unite the people, guess what happend, Sorey just showed took down one Dragon and now everyone in the world is on his side, there should've been more bulid up for this grand moment of the world uniting for the freater good
I seriously hate how they are like here's Velvet and do NOTHING with her, even Velvet can't save this shit anime
I also can't beeleived that we STILL haven't used wind armatization, not even once is it used in the actual show
I can't believe how botched Zaveid was, was t to make room for Dezel development? no it was for more Rose and Alisha
And now they are all gonna suck Sorey's dick being like "this was your journey Sorey" or "you're the only one who can do it" after being put on the side lines since halfway through the first season
holy shit this is bad
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>>154226973
>rejected Melchior's bullshit
>somehow this is perfectly fine
Oh come on
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>>154229270
Which the anime replaced with
>taking Sorey out of the spotlight
>still ignoring Hedalf
>giving way too much importance to Rose and Alisha without justifying it on story.
>still not fixing the narrative problems that the game story had
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>>154229322
Rose and Alisha were a mistake.
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>>154229270
>Mikleo being a boy
Shittiest taste. Boipussy > pussy. If Mikleo was a girl, heroine controversy wouldn't exist but she'd be just as boring as he is now. Nothing fresh in terms of Tales or dynamic with Sorey.
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>>154226172
>>154226218
What the fuck are they even doing?
>hurrr this dude is going to end the world
>okay time for some pandering filler

>we still know jackshit about Sorey's past
Why even have Heldalf and Symonne in the show? Even the furrryfuck from Rose's crew is just there to shill Alisha. So fucking stupid how they've made shallow characters even worse.
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>>154229068
I thought SE recruited him or some shit?
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>>154229334
That Laphi is real though.
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They were nonchalant about this.

Good episode.
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>>154229484
We Queen Alisha now?
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>>154229484
>she isn't evil
Truly the worst change thus far. My only savior in killing Alisha - gone.
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>>154229068
>got his own studio in Squareenix

I think that's a definite better job than fucking bamco
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>>154229417
>implying she'd be best waifu just like Mikleo is right now.
Game Mikleo already had his own dreams (to be a writer), has a good personality that is neither masculine nor feminine, is smart, has good interactions, etc. Being a girl wouldn't make Mikleo any less appealing and besides allowing Alisha and Rose to be written out completely he's also increase the number of best girls in the party from 1 to 2 and would also allow for Sergei to join the party.
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>>154229537
Probably when she marries a proper king.

Picture not related.
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>>154229603
Shut up, pussy is gay.
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>>154229537
If Alisha is the Queen now, then why is she even shirking her duties by running around the world? That's really irresponsible.
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>>154229484
>we went from rose being a mary sue to alisha being one
Sasuga.
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>>154229587
The tea knight already killed her.
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>>154229651
A female Mikleo would bring nothing but good. Search your heart you know it to be true.
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>>154229664
There was no coronation yet. They're probably in limbo regarding the succession until Ladylake is rebuilt and they don't really need her for that.
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>>154229417

Because Zestiria game was also doomed because of waifu Rose, she gets all the focus and leave the seraphines without any development.

Mikleo only had development at the end of the game and even then he doesn´t react interesting "um ok I was killed by my uncle as a curse to what´s destroying the world, okay"
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I'm looking forward to the assblasting when Sorey and Alisha get married, Sorey impregnates Alisha before he goes to sleep, and he gets awoken by his descendants in the far future
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>>154229603
Game Mikleo had skits that gave him personality but even there he was criminally shafted and underdeveloped. Unless you get a better writer, Mikleo isn't too improved regardless of gender. I do agree she'd be best girl but
>winning by default
That's easy when the other girls are mediocre side bitches
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>>154227647

Symmone never made sense in the game anyway.
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>>154229689
>literally incompetent the whole season and need to be helped by zaveid /rose/ sorey to accomplish her mission
>Mary sue xD
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>>154229714
But there's still work to be done and no leader to help it be done. She might not be the queen officially but she's still the Queen and therefore still has a responsiblity to her people. Especially with the war just ending, there's work to be done, and Alisha is shirking her responsibility to her people to play knight.

Anime Alisha is showing herself to be worse than her game counterpart.
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>>154229817
But there is no point in rebuilding if Sorey loses and the world ends so helping him out is clearly the smarter option here.
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>>154229809
And yet the anime doesn't stop praising her, and keeps on rewarding her for doing nothing, even allowing her to be Queen and then shirk all her responsibilities with zero complaints.

Anime Alisha is a Mary Sue anon.
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>>154229714
It doesn't matter if she's crowned or now, she still should have better things to do than wandering all over the place.
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>>154229886
*or not
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>>154229859
Sorey can get someone else to be a squire he doesn't need her specifically.
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>>154229859
Not to mention it would improve the country international standing if they were part in the mission that saved the world. Which is why Rolance is also participating.
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>>154229750
>assblasted over this
Who? The ghosts of the former anime watchers? Kek

Even in a noncanon anime, Sorey/Alisha has a .002% chance of happening. Don't be so prideful in your garbage taste.
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How mad will people be if Alisha somehow gets reincarnated as a Seraph for Tales of Orfellia and traveled with Berbetto??
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>>154229921
He can't just pull squires out of his ass. Right now taking Alisha along is the best option he has. There's plenty of other things that don't make sense in this show but this is not one of the things.
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>>154229739
Actually he almost did react to his uncle, but Rose interrupted it. And he was originally planned to have a complex about being a seraphim but Rose's existence cause him to lose his character arc.
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>>154229921
Yeah, the less pussy around Sorey the better.
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>>154229971
Would Velvet and Alisha even get along at all?
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>>154229982
But Alisha has important things that she should be doing, she could just get one of her soldiers to help him she doesn't need to go with him herself, hell Maltran could do it. She doesn't need to go herself.
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>>154228436
that's pathetic
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>>154229953
Your response sounds assblasted already, take a deep breath, fujo.
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>>154229793

At this point, I'm more surprised the fox hasn't joined the ranks to save the world after being officially forgiven for eating one of the Seraphim Sorey grew up with.

Simone being the plot device to remind everybody that there is a lord of calamity in this show while helping Sorey's group along is the least of the stuff that makes no sense. The sad part is that she's probably going to burn 10 minutes with a fight and then everybody feeling sorry for her and her oath.

Oh, and saving Eizen will now be an epilogue or OVA. Lord of Calamity comes first.
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I thought the people were praying for the Sreaphim for thanking them for taking down the dragon and will start to believe in Seraphs to bring about blessings and to reduce malevolence
NOPE
they're praying for Alsiha, Alisha is literately their god
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>>154229756
Mikleo like everyone else, got shafted due to Rose's bullshit. Which if Mikleo was a girl then Alisha and Rose wouldn't exist or need to exist so he wouldn't have been shafted at all.
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>>154229809
>incompetent
This isn't the game anon. You have to be a complete hypocrite to have complained about Rose in the game and throwing a blind eye to Alisha in the anime.
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>>154228339
>If you like this, I'm going to assume you're a secondary or just a shit eater who will settle for anything.
Please do. I was thinking the same about you since you started shitposting here anyway.
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>>154230036
>But Alisha has important things that she should be doing
Helping Sorey defeat Heldalf is more important than anything else right now. If he loses there is no point to anything. Imagine how shitty it would be if she helped rebuild, which anyone in a position of authority like Maltran could do, and thus caused Sorey to lose because he has one less Malevolence containment battery?
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>>154229989
>Rose's existence cause him to lose his character arc.

She caused that to almost all characters, in the game Rose cause everyone lose their carácter arc and in the anime is happening the same with Alisha.

Zestiria´s concept was literally destroyed by waifus and Sorey´s character is underdeveloped, a shame because Hedalf story was pretty cool and Mikleo could have had cool reactions.
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I know this is a thread for the anime, but I have to ask a question. I just beat the Tiamat boss and I really hate this game.

Can anyone tell me approximately how much of the game's main story I have left?
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Cutest knight.
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>>154229971
That's a disgusting picture and you should feel bad for attaching that to Velvet.
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>>154230135
Anime Sorey doesn't even know that Hedalf needs to be defeated because he was too busy being distracted by Rose or Alisha's bullshit. And again she could have just have one of her trusted knights or Maltran do it (since she isn't evil here) she doesn't need to go herself.
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>>154228957
High. The people who think the anime sales are relevant are stupid.

This anime is just a long advertisement for games and merchandise.
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>>154230036
They need engineers and workers for the construction, she can provide the morale and hope to the people by saving the world with the shepard and guaranteeing that no more calamity will destroy the city that they are rebuilding.
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>>154229971
Would be worth seeing Alisha get cucked by Velvet
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>>154230198
>nd again she could have just have one of her trusted knights or Maltran do it
But neither of them are squires? Why should she give up on something only her and Rose can do to do something else literally anyone could do? Letting Maltran lead the rebuilding is much more plausible.
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>>154230204
The viewership is down and has been going down for a while, and the only merchandise that sells is for Sorey and Mikleo.
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>>154230235
>Seraph Alisha
>Velvet
>Seraph Sorey
>Mikleo
>Edna
>Eizen
>Phi

This is a perfect line-up for the game
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>>154230168
I clocked in 33 hours, clearing all but 3 of the orb-holding minibosses on hard before finishing the game.

You should be able to gauge how much you have left.
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>>154230053
>implying
Autistic shipperfags of all kinds need to be purged and I'm tired of you false flagging every thread. You chose to ship THE most vapid, boring couple in Zestiria that literally BTFO by a fag agenda. You have to be a pathetic Alishacuck to self insert as a Literal fag.
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>>154230223
She can do that in Ladylake, especially since the council would most likely be in confusion due to the death of their king. She doesn't need to travel with Sorey, to god knows where to do that.

>>154230247
Anime Sorey could just make them squires, the limitation that Game Sorey had with Squires isn't in the anime. It was originally there to force Alisha to stay with the cast, but now all it does is make her presence pointless. Sorey can literally get someone else to do it.
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>>154230254
The viewership literally doesn't matter. They are showing it for free world wide on Daisuki because it's a fucking 25 episode long commercial.
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>>154230135
Just like the game, it makes more sense for Rose to travel with him. Anime just gimped Sorey by making him a bg character who doesn't get stronger like the game. If Alisha is a Queen now it just makes her look irresponsible and forced. Heldalf is supposed to be Sorey's mission from the start and Alisha was involved with the politics.
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>>154230334
>She can do that in Ladylake
She can't save the world or prevent calamities from ladylake.
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>>154229484
King Sorey with many shepherdlets ending happening.
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>>154230355
The only time that viewership doesn't matter would be if they buy the merchandise and BDs. But in this case the only merchandise that sells is Sorey and Mikleo and people aren't buying the BDs.

Companies have to make money anon.
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>>154230424
I don't think Sorey or Alisha will end up together. If you pair her up with someone other than Sorey though then you'll piss off Alishafags

Something tells me she'll be the next Shepherd instead of Rose and will die a virgin
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>>154230204
>high
>when it's a flop venture

Why do you think this is not a conclusion to this part of the franchise? If it were hugely popular I could get it but they have little incentive to expand.
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>>154230419
She can help prevent her country from falling into disarray by doing it, she can easily delegate the task of helping Sorey to other people.

Alisha herself doesn't have to be there. Sorey just needs A Squire, not Alisha.
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Best girls gattai.
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>>154229750
>Sorey
Misspelled Rose. Is anyone butthurt about yuri pandering? Other than it being filler?
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>>154230488
>I don't think Sorey or Alisha will end up together. If you pair her up with someone other than Sorey though then you'll piss off Alishafags
Actually SoreyxAlisha is the least popular pairing among the Nips. They just don't buy the idea of them being together and that's even with the anime pushing her to hell and back.
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>>154230334
>have two perfectly functional squires and need them to fight Heldalf
>one of them is busy but it's okay because her teach can do the job
>go through the trouble to dump her and resquire someone else who would have worse resonance than her and not be as good of a malevolence battery and generally be less experienced
You don't need to make the plot even more retarded than it already is, anon.
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>>154230447
The merchandise also sells poorly sadly.
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>>154230508
There are people who are better at management than her, but no replacement squires. She delegated the task that could be delegated, and took the one that couldn't, and by that she left promising her people that she will help the shepard end the calamities that are threatening her subjects.
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>>154230355
It tanked in first cour and estimated to tank even harder in second cour. This anime was a convenient Berseria shill and it did just that.

Don't you know how Scamco works by now? False promotion is their speciality. People thought this was an actual crossover with Berseria but last years NewType confirmed the episodes coincide with promotion. It's false hype.
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>>154230536
>best girl
>shit girl
What did he mean by this
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Alisha is a squire. Sorey could probably use a few squires. She is in high demand.

Alisha is a queen. Ladylake needs to be reconstructed, and that requires administrators. Maltran could do this. The pre-existing bureaucracy of Ladylake could do this. Alisha is in not-as-high demand.

How is this difficult to grasp?
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>>154230612
>>154230564
You missed out of a few important facts anon.
>One of those squires is now a Queen whose country has fallen into diarray due to her father's death
>confusion can causes malevolence.
>The war also just ended and peace talks about to start
>Sorey can actually make a squire pact with anyone it doesn't need to be with Rose or even Alisha.

Alisha's decision
>I'm going to shirk my responsibilities to run around and play knight.

Alisha's being irresponsible anon.
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>>154230494
>Flop
>When Berseria sold extremely well

Don't be stupid and think the BD sales matter in this case.
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>>154230488
You don't get how shippers work, they want her to end up with the blank self-insert MC that is Sorey.
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>>154230650
It's not false hype. It's called advertisement. The anime only exists to advertise other products. It did it for Berseria and it's going to advertise the next Tales game being announced in the Tales fest.
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>>154230684
Some people just hate Alisha too much and don't want her getting involved no matter what. I sort of can understand where they're coming from, but they're still retarded.
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>>154230536
>Edna gets my dick hard
>Alisha gets my dick hard
My dick will explode next week.
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>>154230684
The point is he hate Alisha is being more relevant than she already is.
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>>154230704
No you are forgetting something
>Alisha does queen things which is basically just management things the council has been doing by themselves until now anyway since the king was half dead and only Bartlow's puppet
>instead of helping Sorey in a critical mission that would endanger the whole world
Staying in Ladylake would be the irresponsible choice here.
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Any way to watch the full music video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYw2sN2z42w
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>>154230684
>Queen
>not in high demand
Genuinely impressed you find a way to defend this silly writing.
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Is she kill in the game, gamefags?
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>>154230684
I think you're missing out on a few facts sempai

Sorey can make squire pacts with anyone, he doesn't actually need Alisha herself just another squire. So Alisha doesn't even need to be there.

Alisha is still the new queen and as the new Queen has a duty to ensure that shit doesn't get fucked up.

>b-but Maltran and the pre-existing bureaucracy of Ladylake
Didn't stop people like Bartlow from taking over despite the fact that they outnumber him

How is this so difficult to grasp?
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>>154230725
Has there literally been any indication that Sorey x Alisha is happening?
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>>154230704
She is not the queen though, she is a queen candidate. There are others and also princes, she just has the highest popularity for being the most active in the world events, which makes her the symbolic leader of the people. And by saving the world she is fulfilling her expected role, and the hope people put on her will bring their nationalism and desire to rebuild the ladylake community.
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>>154230306
My playtime is at around 50 hours, also playing on hard. I guess I can't have very much left.
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>>154230794
And again you're forgetting something

>She's the new Queen during a time of confusion
>Sorey can literally make other squire pacts, he doesn't need her specifically.
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>>154230834

No, you leave her crying because she couldn´t corrupt Sorey.
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>>154230834
She cannot be kill.

She can only make kill oneself.
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>>154230837
>>154230884
He can't just pull someone with good resonance out of his ass anon. That's retarded and pointless.
You're trying to bend everything just so you can justify Alisha not being there now.

I know that Alisha being a squire was forced but she is one now and going back on it would make it even more bullshit than it already is.
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>>154230756
Fuck off Bamco shill, before they replace you for false advertising like Baba.
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>>154230861
She's as good as the Queen considering that unlike the game the anime made no mention of her having siblings. The fact that her people are going through a trying time makes it more important for her to be with them, to be a visible symbol of peace, not to run off and have adventures.

>b-but the squre pact
Sorey doesn't have a limitation on how many he can make, he doesn't need her specifically. he can literally find someone else to replace her. Sorey has no need for her specifically.
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>>154230837
>Sorey can make squire pacts with anyone
People with high resonance don't grow on trees.
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>>154230725

They made anime and game Sorey so bland that he doesn´t feel like the main character because of this obsession with Rose and Alisha.

Even I prefer Sorey x Mikleo because I can´t stand those two bitches anymore
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>>154230807
isn't that video the whole thing? it's four minutes long
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>>154230930
At this point in time I don't think resonance matters in this anime, it mattered in the game. But that's not the case here.
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>>154230710
By that logic we should have a third Xillia game because it was far more successful and popular. Or an Abyss sequel. There's no justification for continuing this saga. Most likely the anime will connect the two stories in the epilogue and that will be that.
Some tales games get one sequel(or prequel in this case) and there's no reason for ber/zes to get special treatment.

>BD sales don't matter bs
They do matter. You can't reject inconvenient realities. This anime was planned since before zestiria's bad reception but they simply didn't want to abandon it and trudged forward. Doesn't mean anything special.
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Will Sorey and Alisha get married?
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>>154230873
perhaps in-game time was a bad thing to use...

Have you found the crap weapons that can eat any other weapon when you level up/merge them?
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>>154231031
>BD sales
>Mattering
>For a game advertisement anime

Stop being an idiot.
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>>154231010
Yes
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>>154230990
I don't think high resonance is needed for a squire pact in the anime anon.
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Why did Bandai Namco decide to make an anime adaption of one of the worst Tales games ever?
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>>154230854
I think that Sorey and Alisha have actually interacted less in this anime than they do in the game.
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>>154231027
It does, Lailah still talked about it when he squired Rose. Even in the game Alisha had higher than average resonance.
And even without that, they introduced the concept of Malevolence capacity and that he needs people with high capacity to distribute the Malevolence and Alisha and Rose are good candidates for that. They even talked about it this episode.
He can't just squire anyone even in the anime. Taking any random soldier would only make them become hellions during the battle and fuck everything up.
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>>154227515
It allows them to skip Lohgrin/Mayvin
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>>154231113
I really have no idea. And 2 cur on top of that
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>>154231027
>I don't think resonance matters in this anime
It does matter since they mentioned Alisha had some resonance at the beginning. That's why she could hear the Seraph when Sorey was close to her. Normal people can't hear them at all.
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>>154231113

Baba had the deal worked out and the contract signed for it before the game was released.

Honestly, he's a good businessman, just a shitty game director that went a bit nuts micromanaging things to get at Rose's VA.
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>>154231130
It would be hilarious if they pulled out the Sorey x Alisha ending out of nowhere and simultaneously piss off the fujo crowd
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>>154231180
>just a shitty game director that went a bit nuts micromanaging things to get at Rose's VA.

Literally all the seraphims comments on Rose are Baba´s erection on Rose´s VAifu.
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>>154231089
BD sales are low
>B-BD sales don't matter
Viewership is also low
>V-viewership also doesn't matter either

Then what do you think matters anon? The opinions of some autists on 2ch who they aren't going to make any money from?
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>>154231095
You need resonance to be able to interact with seraphims. Squires are made to help the Shepherd. Do the math.
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>>154229590


>go from making console games to mobileshit

anon...
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>>154230488
>>154230555
>>154230995
It's not about feelings, or chemistry, fujos.
It's about eugenics and biology. Alisha is the most feminine girl in the group and the heir to the throne of Hyland. What better way to cement the roles of her and her descendants in history than to have her be the ancesral mother of the shepherd line? Isn't Eleanor already implied to be her ancestor? Works out just fine.
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>>154231113
It's their apology for zestiria game

so far what bamco have done to apologise for zestiria games are:
1. Berseria
2. Removing Baba
3. Velvet Crowe
4. Magilou
5. SS
6. Retcon estiria story in anime

I think so far they've done a pretty good job
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>>154231089
It was an advertisement for Berseria last year dumbfuck. Berseria is out. That's why they had episodes about Berseria. It doesn't mean there's going to be another game.

>Stop being an idiot.
Take your own advice.

>>154231113
It was planned in advance.
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>>154231113
Because it was always an idea, and they needed to remind people that Berseria was coming out. What better way to do that than in the alternative pandering version of the story nips hate? They have the same universe.

Why do you think Berseria went back to being irrelevant after the full episodes? It's a convenient shill hyping it's release and an adaptation 'fixing' what Ufo thought people hated about Zestiria. It's closing the series for good.
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ZX is a what if timeline.
The "what if Sorey wasn't such a faggot and accepted the help of his friends"timeline.
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>>154231150
>It does, Lailah still talked about it when he squired Rose. Even in the game Alisha had higher than average resonance.
>In the game
And there's your problem anon, you're thinking about the game, but this is the anime anon not the game. The anime uses a different set of rules, anime Rose's resonance isn't as high as Game Rose's. It's not that Sorey can't squire anyone else in the anime it's that the anime hasn't shown him trying to squire anyone.
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>>154231262
>Isn't Eleanor already implied to be her ancestor?
Nah, we only know that Alisha is related to the Dragonias and the prince.
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I want to breed with Edna!
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>>154231262
Eleanor isn't implied to be related to anyone.
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>>154231259
They haven't said anything about it being mobile. But actually, mobile is far more lucrative than console shit in japan anyway. Look at F/GO.
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>>154231113
Why people keep saying that.

Zestiria was no masterpiece and had a lot of issues, but I think It was a pretty fun game. At least is better than Xillia and Xillia 2 in my book.

This game is like Legendia, everyone keeps shitting on it and in reality it isn't as bad as people says.
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>>154231311
BOTH the anime and the game have explicitly mentioned both Alisha and Rose having high resonance. Just Rose even more than Alisha in the game.
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>>154231262
Yeah but this is anime so feelings matter. Do you expect Sorey just to fuck Alisha one night, dump his babybatter inside her womb, leave behind a kid with no father, and to just fuck off and sleep?
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>>154231335
>caption
So this anime is self aware
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>>154231262
Why would Sorey force his lineage to become shepherds?
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>>154231264
It was planned for the start.
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>>154231366
>At least is better than Xillia and Xillia 2 in my book.
Your book is shit.
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>>154231113
It's planned in advance meme
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>>154231307
When does Sorey not use his friends?
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>>154231366
What a shit book
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>>154231262
Just because you have high resonance it doesn't mean that your descendants will.
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>>154231436
Through 3/5 of the game and in the ending itself.
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>>154231307
Except anime Sorey isn't being helped by anyone, he's the one sticking out his neck more, and has also gotten less done as a direct consequence of it.

So the lesson is more like, Sorey was right to not be bothered with them.
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>>154231496
He used his friends there in fact the ending was only made possible because of them. It's just that he didn't need Alisha or Rose's help.
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>>154231520
He's taken down two dragons and sorted out the political issues in two countries.
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>>154229322
>I also can't beeleived that we STILL haven't used wind armatization, not even once is it used in the actual show

Sorey didn't have a pact with a wind seraph before this episode.
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>>154226499

that totally what i was thinking as well , sorey and phi would get alone so well
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>>154231366
>At least is better than Xillia and Xillia 2 in my book.
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>he really thinks Bamco wants a trilogy for the most hated Tales universe ever
>even Vesperia/Abyss/Xillia have neither and are the most beloved entries in nipland
>he really thinks his sequelposting on /a/ means something
Must be sad being you
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>>154231496
I don't see how. You are fighting with Mikleo from the start and then armatizing for the rest of the game. He gets helped from Rose and Alisha too. The ending was just something only he could do in order to achieve his dream.
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>>154231603
Really, for me xillia 2 is the worst mainstream tales ever.

The gameplay is top notch, but that stupid debt system with the extremely disgusting recycling from xillia, it was tiresome.
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>>154231373
Pretty much, since that's literally how a good chunk of these stories end.
>>154231395
Just having an existing family with shepherd potential helps out a lot, anon.
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>>154226525

Matoleus obviously do you even need to ask ?
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>>154231574
He did the same thing in the game. With less time mind you.

In fact by this point in time game Sorey was farther ahead, he sorted out the political problems with both countries, defeated two dragons, purified all the towns on the continent, stopped the war, figured out that Maotelus needed to be saved and created a plan for it as well as a plan for how to increase resonance on the continent, etc.

Anime Sorey has only played side fiddle to two irrelevant bitches.
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>>154231407
So, you enjoyed travelling on the same empty corridors TWICE, facing the same goddamn enemies?.

I liked the gameplay, but that killed the games for me. Xillia 1 was alright, but 2 was terrible.
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>>154230095
>they're praying for Alsiha, Alisha is literately their god
Their queen technically.
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>>154231669
It actually doesn't
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>>154231669
>since that's literally how a good chunk of these stories end.

Where the fuck do you see that? Only Sasuke comes to mind and he is a fucking edgy evil asshole.
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>>154231579
>Sorey made a pact at the very end of the show
that's what I'm complaining about, we at least got to see the other armatizations if only a little, absolutely nothing yet for wind, so dumb
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>>154231791

Oh come now, you were able to see them in the OP and ED each week.
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>>154231767
It actually does. No more looking for the shepherd, no more malevolence gathering without anyone noticing. No more seraphs going neglected.
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>>154229270
>Lailah never being told she was wrong

Somebody always says this, but how was she wrong?
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Just finished playing Berseria.
I didn't even cry that much, only when Kamona, Medissa and Dyle appeared.
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>>154231848
It doesn't because just having someone in your family having resonance doesn't mean that the offspring will have high resonance.

Case in point Magilou, she had high resonance but her parents did not.

Also it's not a person's pedigree that decides on whether or not they'll be the next shepherd.
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Cute bedhead Rose.
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>>154231860
Everything
The Age of Chaos was all her fault, she's the one who raised Michael and yet he became little bitch, and also the one who abandoned Michael and Maotelus when it was her duty to protect him.
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>>154231914
>playing with english dub
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>>154232021
>she's the one who raised Michael and yet he became little bitch
Because people are just puppets programmed by their guardians?
>abandoned Michael and Maotelus when it was her duty to protect him
There's some extreme revisionism going on in here.
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>>154231914
MOOMMMMYY!
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>>154231857
I can't hate LaIlah anymore
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>old spear guy gets to tag along
I hope he doesn't die.
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>>154232100
>Because people are just puppets programmed by their guardians?
Noticed I said "raised" anon, Michael was a child when he became shepherd, and yet under her guidance he became introverted.

>There's some extreme revisionism going on in here.
You literally find this out through the Iris Gems, and she also admits to this.

The anime only gave her some leeway in showing that she was right to dissuade Sorey from getting too involved in matters not related to being a shepherd.
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>>154232040
But I played with japanese voices.
It's just that hearing "Moana" and reading "Kamoana" made me confused.
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>>154229971
>How mad will people be if Alisha somehow gets reincarnated

What If, Alisha becomes immortal somehow who doesn't remembers her past and starts have to relationship with Velvet how will the fans respond to that?
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>>154231606
>a trilogy for the most hated Tales universe ever
Well,SE did that already with FF13 so maybe they're just following in their footsteps desu?
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Hey,since it's already so of the rails,can we PLEASE get Arma Dylan?
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>>154231993
>Who is this redheaded merchant girl?
>How dare she jump into the bath with princess Alisha?
>She didn't even cover herself with a towel, has she no shame?
>I've served princess Alisha for years and I've never met her friend until a few weeks ago and now they're acting all buddy buddy
>I want to bathe with princess Alisha too.
>"Sirel, stop staring at the princess while she is bathing."
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>>154232277
Except Lightning was a popular character.
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never ever
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>This anime won't give me any Lailah doujins
>only increase would be Mikleo ones
>they will be with sorey instead of faceless mobs feminizing him

I hate it.
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>>154226172
>>154226218
>PANIC BUTTON
>that's nice, r-right? Sorey and Mikurio are totally gay, and look, even Alisha and Rose get some gay moments for you yurifags, m-maybe you can buy a few BDs, pls.
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>>154232272

>3rd game gets made
>everybody expects the heroes from the two games to join forces
>you play as Velvet again
>Zestiria's cast are actually enemies
>you brutally murder them all for killing Eizen, only Edna is spared, and Sorey and Mikleo because of Maotelus

I would die of laughter and love every minute of it
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>>154232335
Too late, her princess already slept with the peasant girl.
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>>154232249
>Those assfangs

Holy shit, is it possible to rape a seraphim?
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>>154232585
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>>154232709
>>154232783

They should've renamed the anime Tales of Yuria
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>>154232474
>implying they didn't mean to shiptease Alisha and Rose from the start
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Do you think they're going to completely rewrite the Michael/Heldalf/Camlann/Maotelus plot?
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>>154225297
Spoilers, no.
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I just finished the game and jumped into this thread and im so confused
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>>154233104
Anime has been going anime original since like episode 10
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>>154229971
>tfw someone uses my crafted pic
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>>154227935
why is she looking at her like that
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>>154232474
To be fair they have been throwing a lot of fodder at Alisha/Rose since s1. Rose is a complete fangirl for her because no one can criticize Alisha and get away with it.
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>>154233184
You'd have that face too if you knew you'd get to deflower a pure and untouched royal princess.
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>>154227935
>>154233184

>Tonight, you...
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>>154232988
I don't think they're going to include it at all.
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>>154233242
Wasn't Rose an Alisha fangirl in the game too before the DLC happened? I remember her praising Alisha randomly in some skits and talking about how amazing she is multiple times.
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>>154233317

>final episode ends like the adventure is just about to start
>post-credit epilogue
>Heldalf: "This is weird, no one even tried to stop me?"
>his domain covers the world and everyone turns into a hellion
>the end
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>Last episode
>new game announced
>set way after Zestiria
>main character is Rokurou

I'd literally pre order it.
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>>154233378
She wasn't, Game Alisha unlike Anime Alisha just ended up sticking to politics where she made a difference.
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>>154233411
>The anime was just a tale of caution about why side bitches should be left to rot in prision.
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>>154233417
kek
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>>154233471
What does that have to do with Rose praising Alisha.
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>>154233417

Rokurou was the only character who didn't need a dramatic character arc and a Change of Heart(tm) to stay consistently cool.
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The show will end with Alisha becoming Queen, then she points to Rose and tells everyone "I present you your new King!". Then they marry and you see everyone at their wedding ceremony. The end.
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>>154233592
What about Eizen?
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>>154233592
hes also insane
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>>154233594
No, Alisha is the more gallant and manly one. She'll insist everyone call her king and then show off her new queen consort.
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>>154233635
He literally became a demon just to defeat his brother. Of course he is fucking insane.
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>>154233417
>Last episode
>new game announced
>Make a Poll of wich story of Zestiria will follow the new game.
>90% vote for ufatable and 10% for baba. Only valid in Japan of course.
> Anime oficial Canon and the Game never existed for the nips
>set way after Zestiria
>Main Character.
>For later
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>>154233578
Game Alisha stuck to politics and got more power, by that she wasn't queen but she ended up having far more respect and sway in matters of state.

In other words game Alisha actually did something with her power to help people and didn't play princes knight 24/7 while sitting on a convenient stone and brood.
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>>154233752
So many people dropped the anime that I doubt that they'll have a poll for anything. If Alisha and Rose don't appear in the Tales polls this June, then you're not going to see them ever again.
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>>154233411
>Heldalf realizes turning everyone into mindless monsters might not have been the best idea
>No one can really put a conversation since everyone is either a dragon or a scrub
>Only Maotelus is capable of speaking
>Season 3 is a SoL featuring a very angry Maotelus and a awkward Heldalf trying to make small talk.
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>>154233770
But I'm talking about Rose being an Alisha fangirl in the main game skits too, not about Alisha herself.
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>>154233847
And I'm telling you the context that it was in. Rose did praise Alisha in the main game skits, but it was always for things that Alisha actually did to help other people. Game Alisha was more active politically and Game Rose praised her for it, but she was never fangirled her over it, just respected her.
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Any armatized Alisha fan art? I only have 2 lewd ones.
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>>154234048
nips are fast
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>>154234048
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>>154234067

Actually these are quite old.

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=13552530

This artist draws a ton of Alisha/Sorey stuff, a good amount of it lewd.
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>>154234067
Those fanarts are old, they're from when Alishafags were still imagining their useless princess knight using armatization.
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>>154231791
I liked the dynamic they had with the squires being partnered up with the wind seraphs. Too bad they ruined that this episode since they didn't want double wind armatus
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>>154233629

Eizen stayed consistently cool, but he got a good deal of development too, so it's not exactly the same.
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>>154234317
They didn't actually use armatus this episode though.
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>>154232318
I lost it when that got mentioned in Berseria.
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>>154232478
>AlishaVelvet yuri doujins explodes like crazy
>Only shows Alisha as slave to Velvet getting beaten like redheaded whore.

Ryonafags would get a hard on over this
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>>154233709
>>154233635

That was a big part of what made it great. Nobody tried to lecture him, "no, Rokurou, you must have a better goal in life than murdering your own brother!" He never did and it was enough.
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>>154233144
>being proud of that

Anon...
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>>154233808
>heldalf realizing anything

He was a generic evil character in the game, I doubt the anime is going to redeem him by making him anything except that.
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>>154234387
They tried.

My point was they paired Alisha with Edna instead of Zaveid.
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>>154234048
I have this but it's old too.
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>>154234657
The anime could redeem him by having him kill everyone.
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> Build army
> They want to fight malevolance
> But only the Shepherd can fight malevolence
Why?
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>>154234698
Zaveid is still qualified under those conditions they had, and she didn't get yet with Edna. It's still possible Zaveid and Alisha will try on a whim during a later dangerous scenario and achieve it.
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Dezel is alive , we get to see zavied and dezel act like bros ~

fuck it all ~
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>>154233807
Would eat me toe if Alisha could ever place higher than Velvet or any of the mainstays. I expect nothing from rose.
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>>154234844

that's why Alisha rejected a majority of the applicants; a human army is worthless to the Shepard's quest. She just set them up to rebuild Ladylake while their Queen is off helping Jesus go north and stop Winter from Coming.

The people in the caravan were chosen specifically because they have skills useful for the northern expedition, though.
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>>154234898
Well if Alisha was truly popular her merchandise would sell, but it doesn't, in fact Velvet, Sorey, and Mikleo merchandise sells more. There's also the fact that only the ToZX really pushes her, Bamco has made zero effort to push her anywhere else.
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>>154234890

But Dezel and Zaveid are supposed to hate each other
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>>154234974
The irony of the anime is that they've essentially made the game's decision to not have Alisha go into the final battle a logical choice. Then again the game Sorey never needed any help to purify anything. So anime Sorey had to made weaker than game Sorey just to justify Alisha being there. But then in order to appease to Alishafags they made her queen, thus creating a reasonable excuse for her to cancel her squire pact.
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>>154235056
In the game Zaveid was the one who raised Dezel a long time ago. In the anime they have no relationship and the seraphim barely talk to one another or at all.
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>>154234523
Anon...
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>Heldalf's new plan is to awaken the original Lord of Calamity to end the world
>He releases Velvet, who promptly eats him
>Velvet mistakes armatized Sorey for Artorious
>Velvet final boss

How would /a/ rate it?
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Why does Berubetto have a croc face.
Did they mix her up with Dyle?
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>>154235244
I don't give a fuck about anime Sorey and certainly not Rose and Alisha, so I wouldn't mourn their deaths.
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>>154235230
>muffled ARTORIUS in the background
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>>154235297
Considering the NPCs in every town go out of the way to describe Velvet as some sort of ugly as fuck demon with a bunch of monster parts thrown together it makes sense.
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>>154234048
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>>154233752
What is a cool place to get sweet official pictures? this is a rare Velvet for me.
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>>154235531
Would that be considered NTR?
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>>154235123
Staying out of the party 'because politics' didn't really feel like it jived with the spirit of Tales games; there have always been plenty of people who shirked their obligations to save the world instead.
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>>154235602
No, it wouldn't you fucking degenerate.
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>>154235244
>Velvet mistakes armatized Sorey for Artorious
That would stop instantly since Sorey isn't a wanna-be-sociopath
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>>154235297
>Lord of Calamity
>shown logically

Besides who cares about autistic screeching incarnate?
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Each of their single beds is larger than my double bed. They could've put them both in one bed and still have enough space in between for it to not feel awkward.
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>>154235710
But Artorious was right and Velvet is just a crybaby
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>>154235710

Having just woken up Velvet wouldn't exactly be in the best frame of mind.
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>>154235787
>But Artorious was right and Velvet is just a crybaby
>turning humans into emotionless husks via mind control is right

Then it's better to be wrong.
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>>154235791
>everyone she knew (except for maybe Rokurou) is dead

Can't really blame her.
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>>154235786
Fuck off.
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>>154235554

Look for stuff from Tales of Link and Tales of Asteria, the smartphone games, and you'll find plenty of good alternate costume stuff.
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>>154235619
Actually to my knowledge, no, a lot of Tales Games have NPCs whose sole purpose is to help the characters in the political arena. Even with Natalia being the crown princess, but her father was still alive and on the throne and you also had a representative from Malkuth there as well. Estelle wasn't important enough to matter in her own conty, other nobles that did join you had other people didn't have high positions like a Queen whose kingdom just came out of coup d'etat. Hell even when Gaius joined you it was because had business in that country and he was undercover, so he wasn't actually shirking his responsibilities. Hell you'd have times when characters like Ion and Natalia, and Jade would separate from you to get shit done.

With Alisha the anime bent over backwards to include her, when they didn't really need her at all, and has more important things to do.
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>>154235871
What are you so mad about, anon?
Those giant beds are massive waste of space!
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>>154228339

>Baba being this triggered

Subarashii
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>>154235872
Vevlet just got three Asteria/Link pictures.
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Oh gee wiz I wonder if this book was possibly edited by Lailah and represents her revisionist (I.E. completely WRONG) take on events.
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Is Velvet wife material?
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>>154235880
>Hell even when Gaius joined you it was because had business in that country and he was undercover, so he wasn't actually shirking his responsibilities.

Alisha is doing the same thing, she has business stopping the Lord of Calamity.

>With Alisha the anime bent over backwards to include her, when they didn't really need her at all, and has more important things to do.
The anime has decided that squires are helpful for the Shepard instead of just draining the Shepard so there's no stretch in taking as many as are able to go.
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>>154235929
But Baba left Bamco, after having the last laugh.
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>>154235985
Lailah was there so she'd know the truth, but her oath keeps her from telling anyone about it.
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>>154235985
You mean that part where she leaves out Artorius being a mad man?
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>>154235880
What about Richard?
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>>154235880
Aiding the shepard in protecting the world is Alisha's responsibility in the anime though. And Maltran is the "NPC" who is covering for her.

It's nothing like Asbel whose drama was about him running away from responsibility, and even then when it came to the point of saving the world there wasn't really complaints that he should just stay there as the lord.
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>>154235985
Or maybe Michael, being the retard that he is, wrote it like that.
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>>154236051

>after having the last laugh.

You mean after getting off his sore ass.
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>>154236051
>after having the last laugh
You mean him shitting on Berseria when he's no longer part of Bamco?
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>>154226036
>>154226036
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>>154236051
Atleast he'll get money from Square. Tales is on the slow road to recovery or demise if the next game isn't rehashed assets and has a less shit universe
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>>154236136
>>154236049
>Alisha is doing the same thing, she has business stopping the Lord of Calamity.
Which is only allowed to happen because the anime bent over backwards to make her necessary. Sorey have to be made weaker and the mechanics of purification had to change just to change to the point where it doesn't even resemble Berseria's just to make her useful.

>The anime has decided that squires are helpful for the Shepard instead of just draining the Shepard so there's no stretch in taking as many as are able to go.
Except, squires were helpful in the game as well, without needing Sorey to be completely useless without them like the anime did. They were helpers but Sorey wasn't helpless without them. They literally changed the worldbuilding for her.
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>>154236092
Stop posting genderbent Richard
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>>154236145
>>154236188
Berseria did well, but this anime not so much.
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Reminder to ignore the dumb sequelfags who are trying to force bad fanfic in these already awful threads
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>>154236252
>Berseria did well,
Yeah and he's taking jabs at it now.
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>>154236189
Every time I see this I think of that stupid aquarius song.
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>>154235847
Free will is a mistake.

Free will only causes suffering so it should cease to exist.

Velvet is just a dumb cry baby shotacon.
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>>154236222
>Except, squires were helpful in the game as well

Not really, the AI was particularly terrible with spamming arts all of the goddamn time, making anything that cast spells a god damned pain in the ass.

At best, they were sand bags that the enemy would focus on. At worst, they ate through all of your revival items and gave you a 0 grade in the fight.

Also, Anime sorey is significantly stronger than game sorey. Alisha's squire contract didn't need to be revoked because Sorey was too weak.
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Berseria sold worse than Zestiria.

That universe is completely dead.
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>>154235123
>The irony of the anime is that they've essentially made the game's decision to not have Alisha go into the final battle a logical choice
No, you're just retarded. It makes perfect sense in the context of the anime to go help Sorey.
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>>154236420
B-b-but muh Velvetooo?
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>>154236420
>Berseria sold worse than Zestiria.
Yes, the first week. The second week, the third and the next ones Berseria sold better.
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>>154236530
Source?
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>>154236401
Storyline wise anon. Story =! gameplay.

Anime Sorey can't purify a hellion without hurting himself or being in danger of turning into a hellion, he also needs two squires to deal with a dragon when game Sorey only needed one.

Anime Sorey may have started out psychically stronger but he's weaker than game Sorey now, and it was all done in service of forcing in Alisha as squire. Now it's not that Alisha's pact needs to be revoked because he's too weak, it's that Alisha's needed because Sorey can't purify large hellions on his own, which begs the question of how the anime is going to handle Maotelus if it doesn't outright ignore him altogether.

>>154236471
You mean the anime, which had to bend over backwards and create arbritary new rules just to make another squire necessary? Purification makes and malevolence makes less sense in the anime.
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>>154236576
Just search the weekly sales. Of course, I mean in Japan, I don't know who sold better in USA and Europe.
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>>154236222
>Which is only allowed to happen because the anime bent over backwards to make her necessary.
It's a different story, man. You really have get over it.
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>>154236401
Anime Sorey literally fainted from being hit with Hedalf's malevolence, by this point in time game Sorey wasn't effected by it.
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>>154236248
You can't tell me what to do!
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>>154236624
And anime Sorey can purify even dragons even if with help of his squires. He just developed a different skill set that will allow him to achieve the same goal if not a little more.
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>>154236577
>You mean the anime
That's what I said. Can you read?

>which had to bend over backwards and create arbritary new rules just to make another squire necessary?
It just changed the game's arbitrary rules to make the characters more useful. Pretty good decision.
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Why do I feel the urge to impregnate Mikleo?
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>>154236616
That was my point anon, Anime Alisha is only necessary not because she's really needed but because the anime is bending over backwards to keep her around.

The irony is the game came up with an arbitrary reason to make her leave when he had no real responsibility elsewhere, the anime on the other hand came up with arbitrary reasons to make her stay when she actually has important shit that she should be doing.

The whole thing is rather silly. Why even bother create the excuses to keep her around at all? Only to give her a reasonable reason to leave?
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>>154236222
The method of purification changed to be more conducive to the anime format, it's more of a ritual in the anime rather than pure combat like it is in the game. In the anime combat is means of subduing hellions/dragons so that the Shepard can absorb and purify their malevolence.

As for squires, in the Zestiria game they were liability for the Shepard because of squire-fatigue with Rose specifically being an exception to that rule. In the anime they've changed it to the squire bearing most of the risk since they'll die when the Shepard dies which means Sorey has no reason not to have multiple squires and all his squires have a very good reason to follow him into the final battle.
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>>154236420
Berseria is much better game.
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>>154236738
Anime purification is the same as killing they're just using "purification" as a nicer way of saying it. And even that's is something that game Sorey could do with only one squire needed. It's not a different skill it's the same one. The game only acknowledged that purifying them would also kill them, they aren't doing that here.
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>>154229664
Maybe because if they don't stop Heldalf there literally won't be a Ladylake, let alone a world left?
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>>154236779
Management of a single city isn't more important than saving the world in which said city is a part of. Especially when she has at least one competent replacement for the former and none for the latter.
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>>154236338
Artorius turned into wanting to kill emotions all for his dead waifu, so yea he's totally not a cry baby.
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>>154236805
The anime's format, being "ALISHA NEEDS MORE SCREENTIME", there's no reason for the change to exist beyond that.

In fact it just causes more questions. If that's the only way to purify hellions in the anime then why haven't other shepherds have more squires in the past? Why was it something that they did alone? We're really supposed to believe that no body tried to purify a dragon with their squires? This actually doesn't work with Zaveid and Eizen's pasts, considering that they were a sublords during the time period where there were a lot of shepherds.

What makes it necessary for anime Sorey to need multiple squires is how purification works and no other reason, otherwise he could just cancel his pact with Alisha and move on. It's there simply for Alisha's sake.
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>>154236855
Alisha's managing a kingdom not just one city, and those same people allowed Bartlow to do whatever he wanted, how does that make them competent?

The anime's set up doesn't make any sense.
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>>154236779
>Anime Alisha is only necessary not because she's really needed but because the anime is bending over backwards to keep her around
You're making no sense. There's no character who inherently necessary in any story. The writers decide they want to focus on x characters and write the plot accordingly. That's how it works for all characters in any story. The guys who wrote the game didn't want Alisha, so they wrote a plot that would exclude her. The guys writing the anime did want her in, so they wrote a plot that makes her necessary. There's nothing special about that. It's the same for all the characters.
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>>154236754
You mean it changed an actual rule which made it possible for Sorey to even purify Maotelus in order to make an irrelevant character useful.
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>>154237001
>This actually doesn't work with Zaveid and Eizen's pasts, considering that they were a sublords during the time period where there were a lot of shepherds.
When were Zaveid and Eizen sublords? Where was this mentioned?
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>>154237119
There's no such thing as "actual rules". It's just a story and can be changed as much as the writers want to. The one thing they have to keep in mind is the internal consistency. They don't have to be consistent with the game.
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>>154237001
>The anime's format, being "ALISHA NEEDS MORE SCREENTIME", there's no reason for the change to exist beyond that.

One of the primary complaints about the game is that Alisha got benched for no good reason, so if UFO is specifically trying to avoid that then it is a perfectly valid reason.
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>>154237157
Berseria guidebook, 200 years ago when there was literally an army of shepherds, the both of them fought and defeated the last Lord of Calamity with their shepherd, who died in the fight. Eizen then struck the last blow and became a dragon.
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>>154237001
>why haven't other shepherds have more squires in the past
Did they even mention how many squires the shepards have? The squires don't seem to do showy magic or anything, and armatizing seem like a risk for them. Sorey could purify thousand of soldiers at once by himself, it was just a dragon that he needed help with.

>>154237069
Ladylake was surviving fine before Alisha despite bartlow and a king full of malevolence, it will be even more fine without them, with a proxy of the princess Alisha leading them and motivated people until she comes back not much later.
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>>154237206
Only valid because it appeases to waifufags, despite them pushing her to hell or rather because they've been pushing her to hell and back there's been no plot.
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>>154237220
This is what pisses me off the most. The Zestiria anime is completely forgetting that part. If there were really that many shepherds, they could have been travelling around purifying dragons left and right.
This is a huge plothole that ufotable created.
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>>154237250
>The squires don't seem to do showy magic or anything, and armatizing seem like a risk for them.
That was never the case in the game. Rose armatized like it was no big deal, and Lailah introduced armatization to Sorey against some shitty blobs in a sewer.
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>>154237250
There were literally an army of shepherds in the past anon.

>Ladylake was surviving fine before Alisha despite bartlow and a king full of malevolence, it will be even more fine without them, with a proxy of the princess Alisha leading them and motivated people until she comes back not much later.
So you're saying that Alisha is pointless?
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>>154237206
There are 21 Alisha anti-threads at 2ch. Why is UFO keep shoving her?
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>>154237075
There is that's why there's a distinction between main characters and side characters. Alisha is a side character.

>>154237201
This is an adaptation anon. The story already came with its own set of rules.
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How did they manage to make the anime worse than the game? All they had to do is shorten Alisha's importance to side character and replace the trials with battling Eizen and some other things, while fleshing out Heldalf and his past.
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>>154237289
I'll take appeasing waifufags over appeasing fujoshit any day. Edna best girl anyways and she has almost no screen time no matter who wins.

>>154237329
Because 2ch isn't indicative of anything? Baba himself could have started those threads and you'd be none the wiser.
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I honestly don't beliebe the anon complaining about this has played the game at all. This retcon is the best thing to happen to Zestiria since the manga, and it completely unfucks Baba's bullshit.

I hope the 2 game's Go Shiina hinted were going to be shown off in the Tales event in June are Tales of Orfellia, and Tales of Zestiria R(based on the anime's retcon)
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>>154237290
Hilariously Berseria created a work around for it, the only thing that can save dragons is Siegrfried, but Sigfried is unique, it's the only one of it's kind in the world.
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>>154237319
>Rose armatized like it was no big deal
That was bullshit though. Rose shouldn't be allowed to be just as much of a special snowflake as Sorey. I'm glad they're giving her more of a hard time before getting kamui powers.
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>>154237329

>check 2ch
>nothing of the sort

Nice try, Baba.
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>>154237442
> Bad things happen
> Retconning that
> Good
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>>154237442
Anon it unfucks nothing it just creates a plot hole. There were literally hundreds of shepherds in the past, active at at the same time and we're supposed to believe that none of them worked together and attempted to purify a dragon?
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>>154237489
Honestly I liked it. It showed that Armatization isn't a big deal, and in Berseria you fight hundreds of people armatizing.
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>>154237373
>Alisha is a side character
In the game. The anime doesn't have to follow on that. Specially if it doesn't even make sense. Why would you give your first squire the boot? Doing so in the game was an arbitrary decision. There was no real reason to do so. Just a bunch of nonsensical excuses. Sorey not being strong enough to keep her? That idea was literally introduced just to get rid of Alisha and nothing else.
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>>154237320
Alisha isn't irreplaceable in Hyland politics, unless she is the only successor of the throne. She still might be the best possible candidate, which will bring the happiest scenario for her people, but it certainly wouldn't be the end of the country without her.

But on the other hand the shepard in that scenario is irreplaceable, and because of time constraints it would be impossible for Sorey to find a replacement squire as good and with experience like Alisha and Rose got when purifying the dragon. They didn't even had time to get Edna's brother "purified". If the squires will be vital or not, that will be shown in the later episodes, but Symonne is implying he needs all the help he can get and more.
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>>154237491
http://tekito.2ch.sc/test/read.cgi/gamechara/1487922943/0-

So they have to make Rose unable to Kamui even though she spent more time with the seraphs than Alisha just to make Alisha special.
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>>154237290
Lailah's Shepards have all been shitters who themselves turn into hellions though.
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>>154237547

without Dezel bodyjacking her every night for the last 10 years, she never had the chance to build up the affinity toward it.
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>>154237530
No it's the same in the anime too, but here, Alisha is a glorified side character.
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>>154237519
>Honestly I liked it. It showed that Armatization isn't a big deal, and in Berseria you fight hundreds of people armatizing.
And most of the die doing it
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>>154237373
>This is an adaptation anon. The story already came with its own set of rules.
It doesn't work like that. Adaptations only have to be faithful is specifically requested. Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if Bamco actually requested the opposite after the game's fiasco.
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>>154237458
Why are you getting this triggered over this happy young couple, anon?
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>>154237553
Those weren't Lailah's shepherds though, some of them belonged to Zaveid and Eizen. Lailah didn't start taking over being prime until 200 years ago.
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>>154237442
It's just as bad as the game
>game focuses on Rose too much and everyone in it praises her, Alisha gets shit on
>anime focuses on Aisha too much and everyone in it praises her, Rose gets shit on
There's nothing for everything else, such as the main story, other characters getting development, other interactions and more screentime
it didn't unfuck anything, it just fucked it up in a different way
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>>154237579
>No it's the same in the anime too
You must be blind, or maybe just retarded.
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>>154237447
Not even Siegfried can save dragons, though. The manual just explains how the bullets work and how they're used.
In the thousand years between Berseria and Zesty, Zaveid was likely told about it by Maotelus and gathered a bunch of bullets but wasted them all like a dumbass.
At most, Siegfried could probably kill a dragon but dragons are the completed fusion of malevolence and seraph. There's no going back from that. Ever.
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>>154237576
Didn't the anime say that Dezel did that though in an offhand comment?
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>>154237582
>And most of the die doing it
And this anime builds on that. Kamui is not something you just do willy nilly.
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>>154237319
>That was never the case in the game. Rose armatized like it was no big deal

Good, it should be a big fucking deal. It fucking killed the host and the seraph in Berseria.

>and Lailah introduced armatization to Sorey against some shitty blobs in a sewer.

Yeah and he almost died, passed out for 3 days, and Mikleo had to drag him all the way back to town. The entire point of the first fourth of the game was Sorey dealing with armatization. Suddenly Rose could pull it off without batting an eyelash. with no repercussion to boot? Come on.

The anime is the best fix, while keeping it consistent with Berseria.
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>>154237373
>This is an adaptation anon. The story already came with its own set of rules.
>worst Tales game in the series
>wants a faithful adaptation

Not even Bamco wants that.
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>>154237656
It wasn't that way in the game either, the anime isn't building on anything. Berseria built on it this anime does not.
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>>154237691
Except the well received prequel follows those same rules. The problem isn't the rules anon.
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>>154237540
The anime didn't ever say that she has siblings so she might just be the only successor in the anime.
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>>154237576
So did UFO changed that too for Alisha?
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>>154237659
>The anime is the best fix, while keeping it consistent with Berseria.
It's not really consistent with Berseria though.
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>>154237727
It's a prequel to the game. Think about the anime as a totally separate story, an AU if you will. It doesn't have to abide to any of the game's rules and mechanics. Not even the lore. It makes its own rules, and that's just fine as long as it makes sense in the context of the anime.
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>>154237727
>Except the well received prequel follows those same rules. The problem isn't the rules anon.

Did you even play the prequel? There's even a quest where they find a way to purify dragons.
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>>154237615
but Alisha is a cute and a best
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>>154237771
The anime said the king had many wives though, and Alisha probably wouldn't have as much freedom if she was the only candidate, not to mention she wouldn't have such a distant relationship with the king.
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>>154237817

How is it not?
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Wait, so why didn't he go back to Camlann and Artorius's throne? Why to the north?
Doesn't he want to make Sorey fall so he can shit malevolence on the world with ease, or does he not know about Maotelus in the anime?
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>>154237796
No Dezel says it, the anime just ignores it, for Alisha.

>>154237826
And fail, because the only way to do it was with Siegfried. They outright tell you this in the game itself.
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>>154237442
It's truly non-sensical that anyone is defending the worst Tales game in the series but remember this is /a/ so trolling should have been expected.
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>>154237846
Did he or did he only say that he married a commoner? If she has siblings then whey are they calling HER the Queen?
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>>154237877

It's like Baba himself decided to nest in /a/.
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>>154237862
Zestiria the X creates a LOT of plot holes and is very inconsistent. Berseria works off of Zestiria and everything it introduced. Since the anime re-writes a lot of those rules and plot points, it bcomes a completely separate entity from Berseria and can no longer be tied with it.

For example, how malevolence works. There also hasn't been a single mention of Maotelus or the Empyreans in the anime, which is a big deal. The anime also hasn't talked about the previous shepherds except for Michael, when Sorey finding out about a lot of previous shepherds is part of the plot and point of his journey.

So far the anime has completely handwaved the plot and important connections between Zestiria and Berseria in favour of more Alisha and Rose, inconsequential characters that have no right to have as much screentime as they do.
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>>154237964
>plot holes
That doesn't mean what you think it means.
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>>154237964
There will be a third cour I hope
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>>154237693
>It wasn't that way in the game either, the anime isn't building on anything. Berseria built on it this anime does not.

In Berseria it was a special arte devised as a trump card after studying Siegfried that carried a huge risk of death especially for mooks.

In the anime that is all still true.

In Zestiria it was a special move for Sorey and Rose that carried no risks at all that completely ruined the game play.
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>>154238000
It does, when the established rules between two games are completely disregarded and rewritten.
If it was just the anime alone that claims it has zero connection to Berseria, yes, they would not be plot holes.
Since the anime is trying so hard to be a true sequel to Berseria, it's completely fucking it up by changing everything.

If it's not a plot hole, explain to me why the army of Shepherds in the past haven't purified a single dragon?
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>>154237917
No one called her the queen, just Maltran said she is the new leader of her people but still calls her princess, and not "highest leader" or "only leader". It could very well be a symbolic leader, like the beloved hero princess. Or a shitty translation.
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>>154238015
Nah, they'll be busy with Touken and then Heaven's feel for at least a whole year.
In fact they are already getting in schedule trouble. Didn't you notice how much more static shots and no action we have this season compared to the last?
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>>154236338
If you'd actually played Berseria you'd know that under Innominat's control your stupid, useless ass would just commit suicide because you're a useless lump of sin that has zero (0) value to society.

But maybe that's why you'd want it- it'd finally give you the courage you lack to do what you should've done years ago.
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>>154237862
The anime made an offhand comment about Dezel using Rose's body a few episodes back. Since he really did that, then she at least should be capable of using Armatus. Besides that anime Sorey is shown to use Armatus instantly after forming his pact. Even in the game Sorey needed time for able to use the skill.

Then there's how purification works in Berseria and Zestiria you can purify something without absorbing malevolence. The only reason you'd be absorbing the malevolence around would be if you were a Theroin, like Velvet or just a hellion.

Malevolence also works differently in the anime, as does turning into a dragon.
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>>154238089
Cause they all sucked dick after Eleanor
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>>154238089
>Since the anime is trying so hard to be a true sequel to Berseria, it's completely fucking it up by changing everything.
Stop bullshiting. The anime never claimed to be a true sequel to Berseria.

There's no plot holes. The anime has its own continuity with its own rules and such. That should be pretty obvious for anyone who isn't a retard.
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>>154237964
>There also hasn't been a single mention of Maotelus or the Empyreans in the anime
>which is a big deal

No it isn't. They barely even mention them in the game. In fact, they mentioned Innominate -once- in a skit late in the game from some random logo they find. Holy shit now I'm 100% sure you didn't play Zestiria at all.

>The anime also hasn't talked about the previous shepherds except for Michael
>when Sorey finding out about a lot of previous shepherds is part of the plot and point of his journey.

They literally mention it on the side once at the start in Ladylake, and a second time from shepherd-turned-seraph in Edna's temple. How in the fuck is this triviality a big plot point? The fucking minotaur boss is somehow a game changer?

Goddamn, dude. You don't even know what a "plot hole" is.
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>>154237964
This. Somehow the anime is turning out even worse than the game in terms narrative. How the fuck did they manage to fuck up things so badly?
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>>154238051
By the end of Berseia they figured out how it works and Artorius uses it in his final battle.

In Zestiria it took Sorey a while to be able to use it, and even when he could use his control of it wasn't perfect. And even Rose could only use it because possession and armatus were similar.

ToZX's Sorey could easily use it though.
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>>154238160
Right, I'm not going to believe that.
>>154238189
Then how do you explain everyone talking about Velvet Crowe?
>>154238195
>No it isn't.
It is, because if you forgot, in Zestiria the land is fucked up with malevolence because Kittybeard has been keeping Maotelus captive and drugged him on malevolence.
The empyeans went back to slumber because people stopped worshipping them, losing their blessings.
> How in the fuck is this triviality a big plot point?
The point of Sorey's journey as a Shepherd is to learn about the past and what to do about the future.
>The fucking minotaur boss is somehow a game changer?
Nah, the four trials were shitty padding to make the short game look longer.
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>>154237940
I'd almost think it's a 'baba internet defense force' or something.
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>>154238310
>>154237940
We're complaining that the anime that was meant to fix the mistakes of the shitty game somehow became even more shit by just focusing on a pair of shitty girls who barely impact the plot at all.
The anime is worse than the game, which is really shocking.
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>>154238299
>Then how do you explain everyone talking about Velvet Crowe?
The anime has its own version of what happened in Berseria. When they talk about Velvet, they're talking about that, not about the game itself.
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>>154238195
>No it isn't. They barely even mention them in the game. In fact, they mentioned Innominate -once- in a skit late in the game from some random logo they find. Holy shit now I'm 100% sure you didn't play Zestiria at all.
You're talking to multiple anon, and also you gave yourself out anon, Empyreans are mentioned in Zestira's game as part of the reason why resonance is down, in the anime they aren't mentioned at all.

>They literally mention it on the side once at the start in Ladylake, and a second time from shepherd-turned-seraph in Edna's temple. How in the fuck is this triviality a big plot point? The fucking minotaur boss is somehow a game changer?
You really didn't play the game did you? The seraph in charge of the fire temped and the seraph in charge of the Earth temple were both previously shepherds. There's also the mandatory Iris Gem quest, where you are literally shown an army of shepherds. in fact the Celestial Record is about the previous shepherds. They also talk about it all the time. And it's one of the reasons why Sorey goes to sleep.

You really didn't play the game did you?
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>>154238089
>If it's not a plot hole, explain to me why the army of Shepherds in the past haven't purified a single dragon?
Why couldn't the army of Sheherds take down a single Velvet?

Oh that's right it's because they were all shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
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>>154238369
>The anime has its own version of what happened in Berseria.
alright I'm done, there's no point arguing with you. You're just going to continue pulling shit out of your ass.
>>154238404
They weren't shepherds, they were excorcists. They didn't purify anything, they killed everything.

To everyone arguing, please play the games and pay attention before giving your two cents.
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>>154238310
Multiple anon point out the problems in the anime.
>t-they're just Baba.
Anon please ToZX isn't good and it isn't an improvement on anything.
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>>154238089

>link between both games
>army of shepherds

Are you talking about exorcists? Because I don't remember Berseria ever talking, or producing an "army of shepherds". I don't see how the this is an "established link between both games" when Berseria doesn't even allude to anything like that.

I don't even remember Zestiria talking about any armies either, they did mention multiple shepherds being active at the same time, but nothing like the insane bullshit you're spouting. Your headcannon being rattled doesn't mean there are any plot holes. Look up the definition before you stat verbally shitting buzzwords.
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>>154238404
Eleanor is retroactively made an even bester girl than she already was.
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>>154238299
>Right, I'm not going to believe that.

It's literally in the games did you not play either of them? The Shepards even have a civil war at one point and Eizen had to take out one of the lords of Calamity because Shepards are so dogshit.
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>>154238426
>alright I'm done, there's no point arguing with you. You're just going to continue pulling shit out of your ass.
It's just the truth. No my fault you're so retard you can't understand something so simple.
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>>154238404
200 years ago anon, Berseria takes place 1000 years ago, do the math
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>>154238454
She is the original vessel for apple dragon and therefore had the flames of purification. Every Shepard after her had to deal with Lilah which Phi trained wrong on purpose cause it would be funny.
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>>154238460
There wasn't a civil War, the shepherds were just killed by the Lord of Calamity who was so powerful that he actually interfered with Maotelus's domain.
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>>154236338
>>154238114

This is a good point actually one of the Berseria skits mentioned the possibility that as people rejected their desires 'for the good of world' they would eventually even reject their desire to live.


In discussion of AI it's also been suggested many times that a purely logical intelligence would chose to kill itself for lack of purpose.
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>>154238451
>Are you talking about exorcists?
Okay let me give you a rundown.
1000 years have passed between Berseria and Zestiria.
In that game, Maotelus the appledragon's influence grew, and so did his power of purification.
There were many shepherds during this time. I'd give you a picture of Sorey discovering like 10 shepherds fighting against something that he saw in an Earthen Historia, but I can't find that skit on youtube so trust me here.
Gathering the Earthen Historia is a big plot point in Zestiria because you cannot advance the plot to the final dungeon without having seen ALL of them.

If there were that many Shepherds teaming up, they would have been able to purify dragons like Sorey did single handedly in the anime.

The anime CHANGED this rule. Dragons were not able to be purified, ever. Not in Berseria (even the final dungeon doesn't ever hint that dragons can ever be purified), and not in Zestiria. It's the "no going back" point and the anime flippantly handwaved that while still trying to connect to Berseria with all of it's references to Velvet Crowe.
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>>154238210
>ToZX's Sorey could easily use it though.
Sorey is meant to be prodigy of a Shepherd raised by Zenrus specifically to take on that role, it's not surprising.
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>>154238587
Consider the following: Maotelus, the Empyreans and the Shepherd army just didn't exist in Animeverse.
They've never mentioned them.
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>>154238587
Right here anon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X-41qCssIQ
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>>154238368
>the anime is worse because some girls have screen time

I forgot about the fujoshits as well.
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>>154238451
https://youtu.be/2X-41qCssIQ?t=8m40s
Exorcists only kill, they don't purify.
The Shepherds purify, except Artorius because he didn't have Maotelus's blessing.
These shepherds exist after Maotelus comes into power, and all have the power of purification.
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>>154238691
It's more like
>the anime became shit because two irrelevant characters were hogging the spotlight
If you believe differently then you must be a waifufag.
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>>154238687
>>154238722
Thank you.
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>>154238587
First off Phi had just awoken to his power and was able to cleanse run off dragon malevolence so there was no telling what he could do with a capable Shepard. Second off if you played Berseria there were several thing in the game that pointed so possible soultion for dragonization but due to Zestiria existing first they just went LMAO lets not even try.
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Have your worshipped Alisha today?
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>>154238724
>If you believe differently then you must be a waifufag.
Just not a retard, actually.
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>>154238587
Nothing about the lore and especially malevolence made any fucking sense. No shit they are retconing that garbage.
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>>154238853
>if you played Berseria there were several thing in the game that pointed so possible soultion for dragonization but due to Zestiria existing first they just went LMAO lets not even try.
Those "several things" being Siegfried, yes, the big deus ex machina which is revealed in Berseria that it's intent and function differs depending on the user's intent. It's a big shitting plot device, and even worse the anime doesn't even bother to make it significant at all.
Zaveid offhandedly mentions it in the anime and that's it.

So you're still telling me the anime is better?
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>>154238890

He is right, you don´t have to be a fujoshi to see how the two waifus ruined the game and the anime, no one care about them, the story was suppossed to be about Sorey morals and Hedalf, any NPC was more interesting than Alisha
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>>154238853
>dragon malevolence
No he wasn't, in fact Phi never cleanses any dragon in Bersria. Iin fact Ph doesn't become Maotelus until the end of the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRy3Q8lNyTw

It was also only one showed that there was one solution to dragonization and it was Sigfried. You never played the game did you?
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>>154238722
>Exorcists only kill, they don't purify.

Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. I'm exorcists aren't shepherds, but the person I'm quoting insists Berseria sets some precedence in which an "army shepherds" existed.

I personally like to think Eleanor became the first real shepherd because of her pact with Phi, and she mentions she was going to "spread the word of Maotelus protection" at the end of the game.
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>>154238863
Of course.
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>>154238975

I think what he's talking about is Phi having the silver flame of purification before becoming an emperyan.
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>>154238981
>I'm exorcists aren't shepherds, but the person I'm quoting insists Berseria sets some precedence in which an "army shepherds" existed.
For fucks sake pay attention. The army of Shepherds isn't in Berseria.
Zestiria doesn't happen IMMEDIATELY after Berseria.
The army of shepherds happens a few hundred years before Zestiria. There are even youtube links posted in this thread showing you this but you conveniently ignored them and claim we're talking about Berseria.
Fuck you.
Leave.
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>>154238890
You don't need to be a fujo to see that waifufags ruined Zestiria, first Rosefags and now Allishafags, both characters are shit and aren't needed.
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>>154239043
>The army of shepherds

You keep talking about an army, when all they talk about is there being more than shepherd active at a time.
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>>154238975
Wrong

https://youtu.be/QvrCmhkRI0I?t=280

>>154238951
Yes because due to the fucked up development half the game basically had to be rewritten. Nothing makes any sense and it constantly contradicts itself.
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>>154239037
That just purified hellions.
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>>154238956
Hedalf's story makes no sense. I'm glad the anime focused on something else.
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>>154239043
>There are even youtube links posted in this thread showing you this

There isn't a single fucking youtube link in this thread talking about any goddamn armies you stupid faggot.
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>>154238426
why would you save this poor anatomy picture
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>>154239072
You're so tied up in semantics you don't even care about what the argument is anymore.
>>154239094
It does make sense, it's just dumb to begin with but it's consistent with itself. Zestiria and Berseria compliment one another, with Zestiria being the weak and ugly little brother.
>>154239120
https://youtu.be/2X-41qCssIQ?t=8m40s
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One earthen Historia, coming right up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X-41qCssIQ
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>>154239059
What the hell is that imaginary masterpiece Zestiria without Rose and Alisha that you have in your head?
The way I see it it would've been just as bland with or without Rose and Alisha.
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>>154239094
Except neither Eizen nor Zaveid became dragons. Phi merely purified the malevolence around them, he didn't absorb it, and he didn't turn them back into seraphs after they turned into dragons.
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>>154237442
>Tales of Zestiria R
Please no. I just want Zestiria buried and gone.
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>>154239149
Because it makes me giggle every single time I look at it.
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>>154239059
>both characters are shit and aren't needed.
Says who, the game? Who gives a shit. I'm enjoying the anime for what it is. I don't need it to be faithful, specially when the game never made any sense to me.
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>>154238863
every day
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did anyone else notice Eleanor share the same theme with Alisha?I only realized it on NG+ when I ran into her in Beardsley
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>>154239218
That's fine, I respect that opinion because the game was shit to begin with. Who I'm bitching at are the people who think the anime is better or more consistent than the game. Everything the anime does, the game does better, which is depressing considering Ufotable made one of my favourite anime ever.
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>>154239218

The anime is more faithful to Berseria than the game is anyways.
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>>154239170
I'm not calling Zestiria a masterpiece, I'm just saying that the anime is even shittier than the game. How anyone could think it better when it does every thing worse lost to me, and makes me think that the person is either a waifufag or has shit taste to the point of delusion.
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>>154239294
>I'm just saying that the anime is even shittier than the game

You haven't played the game.
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>>154239229
>same theme
What?
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>>154238587
>Dragons were not able to be purified, ever.
Sorey goes to sleep specifically to purify a horribly contaminated Maotelus in the game.
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>>154239264
It's not even faithful to Berseria though.
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>>154239264
Except the entire argument that started here is you're wrong and the anime is the least faithful to either games.
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>>154239294
Maybe they just don't care or not see inconsistencies the same way as you? I hope you realize good and bad are completely subjective concepts.
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Speaking of Tales, how is Tales of Vesperia: the first strike? I have almost finished the game and was thinking of watching it afterwards.
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>>154239001

>Alisha and Edna will never meat up with Velvet and Magilou and form the ultimate best coalition
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>>154239294
>I can't understand how anyone would think different from me when I can objectively see what's better
>Anyone who doesn't agree with me obviously has shit taste
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>>154239320
I have, but the thing is I'm not a waifufag whose thinking with his penis, delusional enough to believe that the anime is anything resembling decent just because cute girls on on the screen.
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>>154239329
>to purify a horribly contaminated Maotelus in the game.
Maotelus was always a dragon.
Look.
He's corrupted by malevolence, but it's purifiable. His natural form is a dragon of light.
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>>154238724
>the other party members of a Tales game are now 'irrelevant characters'

Fujoshits everyone.
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>>154239367
It's good, and worth a watch. It shows Flynn and Yuri's past, sadly Judith isn't in it but if you liked Vesperia you should definitely watch First Strike.
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>>154239386
>I'm an intellectual who only watches smart anime for people such as myself
This is how you sound like right now. Why do you give so much of a shit about why other people like things?
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>>154239367
It's nice to see Yuri and his time in the knights
Pretty enjoyable if you love Vesperia
but only a decent movie by itself
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>>154239418
If the plot has to be dismissed to focus on them, then yes, people will be angry. Rose's mad angry hatred vengeance should have had consequences if they were going to have like 6 episodes dedicated to it.
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>>154239367

It's the best Tales anime I've seen. It's a prequel so it doesn't have to try and retell the entire game, and it's amazingly good.

Also puppy Repede.
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>>154239043
>The army of shepherds happens a few hundred years before Zestiria.
To be more accurate the 'army of shepherds' portrayed in the Zesty is more like a dozen shepherds.

That should solve that confusion.
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>>154231058
Really late reply, but I don't think I've found anything like that. I lost interest in the upgrade system partway through the game though, because it was such a chore to try to get the skills you want and complete those large skill unions or whatever.
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>>154239179
I actually like the way the anime handles purification. In the game it's just some magic bullshit without consequences. In the anime the Shepherd actually has to absorb the malevolence, which takes a huge toll. This is kinda like how messianic figures usually take on people's sins. They're sacrificial lambs, so to speak.
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>>154239359
I realize that anon, just stating what I think.
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>>154239367
It's very good, you should watch it.
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>>154239490
>>154239473
>>154239437
Thanks. I will be sure to check it out then.
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>>154239385
Isn't that what you're doing right now?
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>>154239524
It's interesting and I like the idea behind it, but I think they executed it poorly in the anime.
I just don't see a point to the change, the flames of purification literally burn away a person's malevolence in the games.
It's to show the difference between Innominat's Suppression and Maotelus's Purification.
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>>154239259
>Who I'm bitching at are the people who think the anime is better or more consistent than the game.
That's a factually true statement though, there is nothing worse than the Zestiria game.
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>>154239625
>>154239625
>>154239625
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>>154239580
I don't remember saying people who prefer the game is wrong though, just commenting on:
>How anyone could think it better when it does every thing worse
>makes me think that the person is either a waifufag or has shit taste to the point of delusion

Which makes the ridiculous claim that his opinions are truth and whoever thinks different delusional, people with shit taste or that group he is using as insult.
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>>154239524
The idea is interesting on paper but in execution doesn't work. It makes sense for the "flames of purity" to literally burn that which is unpure.
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>>154239386
I get that you're angry because you didn't get the faithful adaptation you wanted, but the anime is decent enough if you consider it its own thing. It might be inconsistent with the games, but it's not inconsistent with itself, which is far more important.

Whining the Alisha and Rose got attention is retarded because in the context of the anime they were always main characters. I think the only valid argument against the anime is that Sorey didn't get enough focus as the MC. That's true, but it's pretty much the only problem it has so far, and I can deal. Maybe the last few episodes will focus mainly on him though.
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>>154239784
I hope they show that he's related to Heldalf.
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>>154239399
I'm aware of the apple dragon.

Point is he was contaminated with far more malevolence than a dragon and could still be purified.
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>>154239751
>It makes sense for the "flames of purity" to literally burn that which is unpure
It makes sense on what basis? Just because it's called "flames of purity"? That's pretty weak.
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>>154239784
The game is shit I never expected a faithful adaptation. But the thing is I expected that the anime would be better not actively worse to the point I'm reconsidering my opinion of it.

Alisha and Rose are main characters in the anime and there's no plot or direction because of it. They actually feel even more pointless here than they were in the game.
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>>154239874
Because Lailah uses them and she's literally a Seraph of Fire.

The whole "absorbing the weight of sin" aspect is established very early in the game but is quickly forgotten. Because it's an action RPG and it wouldn't be fun to roll on the ground dying every time you score a crit.
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>>154239872
>with far more malevolence than a dragon and could still be purified.
They could have explained it better but I don't think the amount matters because in the games Sorey doesn't absorb the malevolence. The dragon form is more or less a fusion of the malevolence and the Seraph's body, making them inseparable.

The anime uses different rules and shows Sorey has to absorb/understand the malevolence.
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>>154239874
Because they're flames and flames burn things anon. It's called logic.
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>>154239617
>I just don't see a point to the change
The point is to make Sorey a more Jesus-like figure and up the for him and the squires. Makes sense to me.

>It's to show the difference between Innominat's Suppression and Maotelus's Purification.
We don't even know of Maotelus and Innominat exist in the anime.
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>>154239939
But flames are technically the result of burning, not the other way around.
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>>154239926
Actually the game just meant it figuratively not literally.
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>>154239476
Character arcs are the best part of most Tales games and Zestiria has an especially weak main story. They should have abandoned the main story completely for the anime and just made 2 cours worth of character arcs for everyone.
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>>154239959
>We don't even know of Maotelus and Innominat exist in the anime.
I sure hope so, otherwise all the Velvet Crowe references will be wasted.
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>>154239974
But flames are associated with burning, no?
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>>154239991
A good plot is what makes the character arcs relevant and exciting. Take Abyss for example, everyone's character arcs are linked intricately into the plot and I love the game for that.
The plot shouldn't be disregarded completely, but the point of the characters should exist to be relevant to the whole plot.
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>>154237201
>There's no such thing as "actual rules". It's just a story and can be changed as much as the writers want to

There are rules that define a story. If you change them, it becomes something altogether different. You can't call something an adaptation, if it's completely unrelated to the source material.
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>>154239894
>Alisha and Rose are main characters in the anime and there's no plot or direction because of it.
There is a clear point. No Shepherd could purify a dragon before. Sorey did it thanks to his squires, and that justify all the focus they got in the context of the anime. Of course, this doesn't make sense in the context of the game, but again, try to see the anime as its own thing.
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>>154240060
Lousy argument. Try this next time:
> A story that doesn't even have the decency to be consistent with itself is shit.
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>>154239959
Except to the Japanese he's referred to as "doushi" and Zestiria is using Shintoist beliefs not Christian no matter what the sub tells you.
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>>154240072
And have to do with anything? Yeah Sorey did something but that's not actually moving anything forward.
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>>154239939
>Because they're flames and flames burn things anon. It's called logic.
Didn't you know the Holy Spirit appears in the form of flames when it shows up to the disciples after Jesus dies? If you think about Sorey as a messianic figure, this whole thing makes sense.
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>>154240053
>The plot shouldn't be disregarded completely, but the point of the characters should exist to be relevant to the whole plot.
The anime isn't stand alone though so that's not relevant. I'm just saying what they should have done is made up for the weak Zestiria character arcs by giving them character arcs in the anime instead of trying to tell the story all over again.
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>>154239932
He just needs to absorb it understanding it was a requirement in the game. The problem is that if anime Sorey needs help with a dragon then he'd need even more help with something like Maotelus or just be incapable of doing it at all.
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>>154240111
I know, but the writers can take inspiration from many sources, and the way they changed how purification works does look more Christian than Shinto to me. Still, I'm not really claiming that's what they were going for. It just makes sense to me that way.
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>>154237940

And then there's this autist who keeps going babababa in every Tales thread
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>>154240228
This. What they needed to do was spread out the focus not home in on Alisha and Rose.
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>>154240158
>Yeah Sorey did something but that's not actually moving anything forward.
How do you know? What if what he learned and achieved with his squires actually plays a role in dealing with Hedalf? Just wait and see.
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>>154239373
I want to meat all four of them.
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>>154239229
>>154239328
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-kk-kbX0qs&list=PLoHwgN18iMQYLg0Nmz7oxTLK7Z36czg8A&index=44
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9TrQGE24lA

They don't?
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>>154240228
Agreed with that.
>>154240243
That's true, and probably why Maotelus won't show up in the anime at all.
Or perhaps he will, and Sorey will somehow bullshit himself to sleep with Maotelus for 700 years making Eizen unpurifyiable again.
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>>154240411
They sound alike, that's all.
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>>154240228
>The anime isn't stand alone though so that's not relevant
It is stand alone. Bamco probably ordered Ufo to make it totally different from the game. It's an AU.
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>>154240380
Because Hedalf or rather just his aura kicked Sorey's ass in this episode.
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>>154240508
Just because he didn't have his squires there.
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>>154240508
So? It's just the typical hyping the bad guy. Sorey and his squires would be ready for the real thing with they get to the North or whatever he is.
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>>154240560
Sorey didn't have his squires because Heldalf's domain severs his connection with them.
The point of the four trials in the game was to gain the power of the four lords to combat Heldalf's domain.
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>>154240567
*when
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>>154240508
He was just out of bed after the dragon episode though. And some extra final boss hyping, even though it's kinda late.
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