How come anime movies are so much more thought provoking and

Because they were able to stave off western influence for centuries and were able to develop their own culture and artistic style.

>>154158053
This. And no Hollywood system to keep animu movies down.

no jewish media cartel

you're a hopeless weeaboo

Go watch Arrival and get back to me anon

>>154158005
Anime is filled with shit just as much as Hollywood is.
95% is generic "fast food", the remaining 5% contends for a possible "good" status.

For every good anime you can name, I can name 20 crappy ones that most likely even sold better and were overall more popular. I can do the same for western films.

I am a self confessed weeab, but you are operating on a level of ignorance that is astounding.

That's why Hollywood has been trying to acquire all these anime to make movies out of.

>>154158005
>Your Name among others btfo anything hollwood could've come up with.
LOL...don't even need to unsheath my katana for dis 1. Stick to the animes, kid

Maybe you're just watching the wrong movies. That's to be expected, considering you're probably a lot more in contact with the anime scene.

Also,
>>154158194

>>154158238
Says the retard

>>154158238
>weeaboo
what is this kind of cancer doing browsing /a/?

>>154158005
And you picked one of the most mind numbingly boring movie released in the past 20 years?

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Anon you can't just MAKE these claims as if you know both sides super well.

For instance, it would be very easy for someone to say Naruto's a piece of shit without having actually watched it. Or blurt out how Halo's gay without ever having actually played it. Or proclaim Steven Universe is utter garbage without having sat through a few episodes.

Does this mean you should consume ANY of those? If you want to say, with one hundred percent confidence, that something is complete garbage then yes, you should. This isn't a recommendation for any of the above because I, myself, have never bothered with any of them. Otherwise just say you're not interested in 'em. You shouldn't make uninformed proclamations like this that'll just end up embarrassing yourself.

what hollywood movies have you watched recently? you're making a huge stupid generalization. there are some themes anime won't even touch because how castrated Japanese media has become. the jewish boogeyman has nothing to do it. the fucking movie you posted literally tells you what the entire movie is about in the last few minutes.

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>>154158005
how come
First, it should be noted that most animation produced in Japan is NOT thought provoking and emotionally moving, the overwhelming majority of it is mass market stuff for a juvenile audience. The difference is that Japan had it's "manga revolution" in the 1970's that made it acceptable for adults to read comic books and for comic books to be written for adults, and this led to the creation of a market for, and acceptance of, more serious animated films that's much greater than that of other nations. Most animation produced in Japan is not 'serious', but the majority of the world's 'serious' animation is made in Japan.

>>154158413
>all these anime
1 anime gets a movie after Jewberg buys the rights 9 years ago and gets pushed by literally 3 jew producers.

That being said if GitS sells well I am expecting a lot more anime movies. Spielberg and many of his jew friends in the industry consider Hollywood to be in a crisis, nothing sells and innovation is at an all time low. GitS will be the first major venture into a "new direction" in a long time. Instead of relying on original stories by writers who will fuck up your business and schedule, they can simply adapt major anime films which coincidentally and conveniently often already have followings in the west already anyway.
For all the disgruntled fans moaning about the GitS movie, you and I both know a large portion of these whiners are going to go watch it anyway.

I expect something like Akira to be next up if GitS does well.

>>154158358
The difference is the hollywood does have 20% good movies. Maybe 0.1% of the shit hollywood makes is good.

>>154158611
Have you ever sucked cock?
No? Why don't you try it, you might absolutely love some cock. Don't say you don't like licking a dicking if you haven't tried it.

>>154158663
The Edge of Tomorrow was pretty great.

>>154158721
Just say you're not interested.

I, for one, think the flavor of cock is over-rated.

>>154158005
Your Name was supposed to win Best Animated Film but they lost the envelope. My dad works for the Academy so I know. I'm Jewish btw.

>>154158005
Pic not related? Colorful is fucking garbage.

>>154158781
you are so cool anon! please let me be your friend (your 1st friend)

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>>154158005
Colorful wasn't THAT great. It was good but nothing really special.

It lost a lot of focus in the middle and just meandered for a while.

The ending was pretty sweet though. It had a nice message.

Compare it to something like Tree of Life though and it doesn't compare. Colorful is a good movie, Tree of Life is an experience.

Your name wasn't that great either. In fact, it reminded me of a Hollywood movie more than anything else Shinkai has made.

>>154158809
>That fucking 10 minute train advertisement in the middle

>>154158005
Purapura a CUTE! A CUTE!

>>154158679
Only 0.1% of anime is good as well though. The past 4 seasons have given us nothing but utter garbage. Some of it is entertaining garbage, but it is garbage nonetheless. I enjoy watching Megumin being Megumin, but it wouldn't enter my head to proclaim that anime as great or even good.

The last anime that did something different, something out of the box was what? Madoka? That's 5 years ago now. What have we had since that was really different/good/thought provoking?

>>154158005
4/10

>>154158910
when you say something like that and then mention Madoka, no one is going to take you seriously.

>>154158728
>Tom Cruise
>Great
I don't enjoy this meme

>>154158663
It's gonna suck like all jewed live action western anime lmao. It'll be another mediocre scifi to the vast majority of the American public. Returns will be piddling.

>>154158846
Not that I don't agree with you (I in fact do), but Tree of Life was utter pseudo intellectual garbage. If I want to watch a director have a good old self congratulatory wank I am sure I can find that on pornhub and don't need to sit through hours of tripe.

>>154159082
You could argue that knight of cups is but tree of life really isn't.

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Name any "serious" anime movie of this deacde that comes close to pic related
You can't

>>154159117
>dude spinning cam and internal monologue lmao
might as well have been an anime

>>154158005
Because you're biased and only cherry pick big films and shit indie films to criticize so it doesn't conflict with your opinion

>>154158994
Prove me wrong though, that is the most recent Anime that comes to mind that tried to do something at least somewhat different. If you want something better you have to go even further back than 5 years. Anime is absolutely FILLED with garbage. Isn't that why many of us enjoy it though?

I know McDonalds/KFC/BurgerKing is shit, nonetheless I enjoy having a burger from there every so often. I watch anime because it is simple entertainment, I honestly don't want to watch thought provoking philosophy. I'll go read if I want that. After coming home from a long day of work all I want is to kick up my feet and watch something FUN. That doesn't mean I want it to be an incoherent mess, but it certainly also does not mean I want the opposite either.

>>154158413
No, it's because big budget movies are increasingly risky to make people not as many people are showing up and what was once sure-fire draws aren't effective anymore. Since every big Hollywood flick is more likely to be a bomb, studios are more willing to fund adaptions and sequels since they both have a built-in audience and already have an assumedly successful source to ape off of. Anime isn't the only thing getting acquired.

>>154159243
I concur. Fun things are fun.

>>154159148
This film is Paul Dano. Would have been garbage without him, and was elevated to brilliance because of him.

The guy is an absolute madman and I look forward to see all the stuff he will work on in the future. I hope they use his skills to produce some absolutely fantastic works in years to come.

>>154158910
Youjo Senki from this season has been amazing so far and is pretty innovative. Parasyte and Unlimited Blade works were 3 years ago. Your Lie in April was 2 years ago. Your Name just came out and is supposedly the best thing ever.

>watching hollywood movies made for China
M8 really?

>>154158910
>>154159243
>>154159226
What is the last actually good hollywood film that you you can think of?

>>154159390
>UBW
>Shigatsu
>Your name
None of these are extraordinary. Shigatsu is OK and is only really saved by the amazing production values. UBW is shit.

>>154158238
Go to reddit and stay there.

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How come western series are so much more thought provoking and emotionally moving than weeb shit has been for decades?

>>154159243
Rakugo is different and it's great. It's not even just good by virtue of having non-teen characters. I'm not going to go on about but I think it's sufficiently different without having to use wacky art style or something else to make it inaccessible. Fume wo Amu and 3-gatsu are different but i didn't like them enough to finish them. that's from last year. not going to bother looking for more. I just rewatch something if I want 'fun,' I've been through looking for worthwhile anime for a long time now

>>154158005
Watch more movies you dumb pleb not only hollywood flicks.

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>>154158005
Is this bait? Your Name is litteraly Hollywood love story drama. It's not even true Shinkai. Jsut fuckin top trops in one movie.
>Colorful
The Colorful can't withstand any criticism because of how awful it is. How many anime you watched? 40?

>>154159463
Manchester by the Sea was amazing. what about for you?

>>154159463
I don't go out to the theater much, but Nightcrawler was pretty good. I'm sure there are more up to date anons who can better answer your question though.

>>154159463
la la land

>>154159463
Silence

>>154159243
>After coming home from a long day of work all I want is to kick up my feet and watch something FUN
This is probably what anime producers take into consideration when they fund a new project.
When your average salaryman comes from work after 12-hours shift, I doubt he'd want to watch something serious and thought provoking. As a result, anime industry is filled with SoL/comedy/action/romance stuff.

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>>154159463
>The Neon Demon
>Only God Forgives
>Drive

>>154158425
>LOL...
>animes
Stop posting.

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>>154159697
>refn garbage

>>154159609
Dishonest filmmaking

>>154158005
Good acting. Because fucking up with 2d its hard.

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>>154159727
>anime reaction garbage pic

>>154159681
I think that's fine. It's the reason people all around the world get into anime, right? Surely there are better media for ambitious stuff. I like anime mostly because it doesn't take itself too seriously and it doesn't have to.

>>154159757
Go back to whatever board you're from

>>154159463
You know what worse anon? If someone ask you about anime movies. You will realize how fucked anime movie industry. There is nothing good except Kaguya and Koe no Katachi, Your Name and maybe Genocidal Organ. The worst part that Your Name is not different than Hollywood movie. And Gonocidal Organ os basically good Hollywood action movie based on book.

>>154159773
Make me faggot

>>154159727
>>154159773
Those are impressive posts. 4chan speech degenerates more and more every year

>>154158005
Not my fault you watch shitty movies. There were a lot of pretty good movies just last year alone. Although I do agree than Western animated movies are terrible garbage mainly because everyone gives a free pass to whatever disney or pixar make, and dont support decent shit like Kubo

>>154159463
LOGAN

>>154159463
No country for old men

>>154159243
>Anime is absolutely FILLED with garbage
>Isn't that why many of us enjoy it though?
Nice opinion you got there, specially since you seem to have watched so little that you say the last good thing the elevens pulled was Madoka or some shit 5 years ago, you should either watch more anime or stop posting.

>>154159463
TDKR

>>154159082
>pseudo intellectual garbage
It's not. You just fuckin dumb.

>>154159513
Let him be, he's clearly some faggot who watched 20 series at most and somehow found /a/ and shitposts for the sake of shitposting.

>>154159388
>The guy is an absolute madman and I look forward to see all the stuff he will work on in the future.
This. He was pretty great in Swiss Army Man

I watched Patema yesterday and why? Why good promise and ideas turns into shit? Ridiculous cartoon villain and trash quality animation. Just WHY?

>>154159914
He said without mentioning a single anime from the past 5 years, let alone a good one. Dare I say because simply none were produced?

>elevens
Come on buddy, what are you doing here, baiting or attempting to be childish?

>>154160015
>You just fuckin dumb.
Yes, well done, you outdid yourself there.

>>154160234
>doesn't know what elevens are
>>>/out/

>>154160234
Not failing for your rec shit, as I said lurk more faggot or stop watching anime/posting on /a/.

>baiting or attempting to be childish?
How about you lurk more to find out?

>>154160261
Okay. Listen. Calling something pretentious is double edged sword. Posting something like
> If I want to watch a director have a good old self congratulatory wank I am sure I can find that on pornhub and don't need to sit through hours of tripe.
not makes you looks cool or badass. For example if you call Dostoevsky as pseudo intellectual that will not makes you look cool.It's only proves that you cannot grasp simple things or themes.

>>154160021
Doesn't the anon who mentioned Rakugo kinda proves his point though?
There were around 80-100 full-length, TV anime that came out last year, but 91 Days, Rakugo, Sangatsu and Fume wo Amu are the only "serious" anime that didn't shit the bed

>>154158194
Please don't start with pol bullshit.

>>154159566
>It's not even true Shinkai.
The best Shinkai

>>154160491
You just compared Dostoyevsky to Malick. Go sit in your room and feel ashamed.

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>>154159757
Where do you think you are?

>>154160493
>Doesn't the anon who mentioned Rakugo kinda proves his point though?
Reread what the said.

>>154160493
>fune wo amu
>good
said no one

>>154160288
It isn't rec shit buddy, there simply isn't any "brilliant" anime out there that has been produced/released in the last 5 years.

Not in the sense you guys mean it anyway. I think Lucky Star is fucking amazing, but I doubt that is what people here mean when they are talking about "non garbage".

>>154160491
writing. like. this. doesn't. make. you. seem. smart. it. isn't. even. correct.

>>154160615
>but I doubt that is what people here mean when they are talking about "non garbage".
Check your tabs anon, we are on /a/ not /v/.

>>154160656
That's all?

>>154160547
Looking what some anons call pretentious or pseudo intellectual in /a/ already makes Dostoevsky unreadable for them

>>154160021
Why would I let him be, he is right. Hundreds of anime released, only a handful of genuinely good ones. Just because you enjoy SoL comedy shit as much as the rest of us, doesn't make it "quality". Go watch more anime, the vast majority of it has always been garbage. Serious thought provoking philosophical art anime, or whatever tag you want to give it, has always been a miniscule percentage of produced anime. Anyone who thinks otherwise is absolutely oblivious to what anime actually is.

>>154160777
Malick is a nonintellectual pretentious ass though. Do you even know who he is? Jesus Christ, just shut up already and stop embarrassing yourself.

>>154160815
He will probably just call you being /v/ or reddit like always. There is no so many adult anons who watched 700+ shows in /a/ and not being solfag

>>154160668
Check out this thread anon, we have people calling all anime of the past 10 years garbage, I doubt very much those anons would consider Lucky Star "good". Personally I think those people in this thread should go find a different medium rather than wait for the next Texhnoylze or whatever other "deep" anime takes their fancy. The industry isn't geared towards that sort of audience.

>>154158005
I watched that yesterday for the first time, what a coincidence.

>>154158005
>Colorful
>thought provoking
>emotionally moving
Maybe if you're a fucking peanut?

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>>154158005
>How come anime movies are so much more thought provoking and emotionally moving than hollywood has been for decades?
This is just sad.

I can understand liking anime more than western movies, but still.
This is just sad.

>>154159893
Not even half as good as Fargo.

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>>154160815
>>154160924
I should add that I enjoy all the so called "garbage" and wouldn't want it any other way.
I enjoy something more serious like Ergo Proxy every once in a while, but that isn't why I got into anime, nor is it why I have continued to watch it for decades.
Most anime is "shit", most of the industry isn't attempting to be something profound and failing, it just isn't trying to be profound to start with, and thank god for that.

>>154160861
Watch Peter Greenaway

>>154160951
You're missing the point that people who call it garbage also admit that they're enjoying it. They're not the ones who bitch about lack of serious anime while hating on every other non-serious anime.

>>154160815
>Serious thought provoking philosophical art anime
You can say this for pretty much every medium there is, at least you get a tiny percent of it on anime.

>he is right
If you agree on anime being garbage and that you need to look back at least 5 years to find something decent why did you even bothered to reply to him to prove him wrong?

>>154161130
Animation still have unlimited potential. And new generation will rise. Everything can change anytime.
>They're not the ones who bitch about lack of serious anime while hating on every other non-serious anime.
both sides are bitching in /a/

>>154161130
>1994
>kawaii is the latest fad and will fade into the background as the next fad hits in a couple of years
How wrong can a person be proven?

>>154161249
The problem is that anime industry very small. Just how many big names who makes anime movies now? Compared to people who make movies or write books

>>154161212
I am going to be honest with you here. I have no idea what we are arguing about in this thread anymore then. Are we even arguing?

Anime is mindless fun. We enjoy mindless fun. Anime isn't aspiring to be War&Peace, nor do we want it to. We enjoy it nonetheless. Correct?

If yes, then what the fuck is all the bickering about?

>>154161386
>If yes, then what the fuck is all the bickering about?
People using the term "garbage" or "shit" for things they like and they judge according to a normal point of view which dictates what is garbage and what isn't.

>>154161249
>You can say this for pretty much every medium there is, at least you get a tiny percent of it on anime.

>I don't read.

You needn't worry about having watched 700 anime, or 800, or 9000, rather you should go educate yourself. By the by, I am none of the posters you have been talking to. This is the first post I have made in this thread. I simply find it preposterous to see someone write that literature has no "thought provoking philosophical art" and then write anime does.

>>154161364
How's anime being small a bad thing? Even if small there's always something for all tastes.

>>154161480
So everyone is basically agreeing with each other and the argument is basically about the precise definition of "garbage"? I am only amazed at my own stupidity for expecting anything else from a thread on 4chan.

>>154161506
But muh Angel's Egg, Kujira no chouyaku etc

>>154158005
Mostly because Hollywood is too obsessed with making cuck movies that show off how "progressive" and "accepting" they are.

>>154161535
I think he means small as in "not a lot of money in it".

Most money is in the merchandise, not the anime, and while it is easy to merchandise a "cute girls doing cute things" show, it is kinda hard to do the same for a "deep" anime. I think the only notable exception to that was Evangelion, but then that had waifus and robots ("hurr, they weren't robots!" yeye, for all the nips watching it in the morning back then they were, deal with it) in a highschool setting with only EoE really being "deep".

>>154161535
Less opinions in creative work.
>>154161569
>I am only amazed at my own stupidity for expecting anything else from a thread on 4chan.
It's not like we how something to discuss about movies. No Koe no Katachi BD and Genocidal Organ is just aired

>>154158005
You need to watch more movies.

>>154161677
>"not a lot of money in it"
Except that you can still make decent shit while being on budget, wasn't yozakura quartet and example of this?

>>154161581
>Kujira no chouyaku
Ophthalmologists HATE this anime, click here to find out why!

>>154161535
Look how Miyazaki name considering as God's Word. It's pretty much easy to become very big in small group and dictate rules and trends. Outshining others.

>>154161738
Well ya, but it's never going to compare to Hollywood.
La La Land, to name a latest hit, cost a relatively measly 30 million dollars, but that is astronomical compared to what anime productions receive. The industries just work differently. La La land already made back its cost ten fold. Anime usually doesn't make back its cost untill after DVD/Bluray/merchandise sales. So producing something like Texhnolyze simply doesn't cut it from a financial POV.

So while we all enjoy our anime, comparing it to Hollywood like OP is doing is just plain silly.

I love movies, I want movies to be great again but in terms of hollywood, they just gave the fuck up huh? There isnt even as many independent movies being made anymore, and if a director does happen to create something great on his own, he is immediately snatched up to make Star Wars 8: Jurrassic Park Edition. I wonder if kids now will feel the same way in a few years and start to look for new content like anime or art or whatever. Anyone who grew up doing nothing but watching movies and TV has to be bored as fuck with the current entertainment.

>>154161506
>by the by
For someone as educated as yourself, you sure sound stupid. Maybe you should read more.

>>154160505
I think you're jumping to conclusions there. American national media and entertainment is jewish, period. /pol/ or no /pol/. That's just a fact of life.