>DEEN anime has better animation than Kyoani How did this happen?

>>153948828
DEEN finds a way

Kyoani spends too much time using storytelling as an excuse to do forced animation instead of using animation to tell a story.

>>153948828
Now the next episodes will be QUALITY

that animator is using those smears ver good

>>153951078
This.

Nothing compares to Kyoani in terms of animation.

>>153948828
Because DEEN prioritizes what the animation conveys rather than the objective quality of the animation. Konosuba doesn't look very pretty but it's great at visual comedy.

>>153952666
This.

>>153948828
because DEEN cares about their material
KyoAni just looking for vapid shit to pump out to make a quick buck

>>153952666
>animation
>Badly drawn stills that are littered with adobe effects
Prep the bull kyocuck

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>>153952752
???????????

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>>153952666
this poster needs to be purged

Deen shows look terrible though. Most of Konosuba looks bad and the latest episode of Rakugo was an eyesore.

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>>153948828
bretty good

>>153948828
>Less than 150 frames on that 12 second webm
>Better than KyoAni
No.

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>>153954959
>he counts frames

>>153948828
Literally slideshow tier, I hope you fucks are just memeing when you say this looks good

>>153958132
There's more to it than slideshows, you know.

>>153952666
Digits speak the truth

>>153948828
S A K U G A
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>>153952666
KyoAni animators are literally on the spectrum.

>>153958380
That's 5 minutes CGI

>>153958431
Delete this.

>>153958380
>No head when it reaches the right side of the glass

>>153958380
Ishihara literally consulted a scientist for Phantom World, the interview is on the site.

>>153958178
There isn't. It doesn't do it's job to convey speradic movement when every action is animated at like 7 frames a second.
Just because you add a silly exaggerated face/smear here and there doesn't make it well animated

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>>153958818
>that much effort went into that pile of feces

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>>153948828
Are you memeing or do you think this is actually good?

>>153948828
I always just thought this was a joke for the animators themselves. Maybe like they pulled straws and each one had to draw a random second of animation. Or maybe they just put "fuck her shit up" on the storyboard.
Or they couldn't get it to the outsourced studio that does the in-betweens in time and had to rely entirely on keyframes.

It's just too weird a segment. i still like it

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>>153951078
holy shit this

>>153948828
But this looks like garbage

>>153959666
i assume it was supposed to look weird as fuck, and i also like it

It's the only scene that's looked like that.

Oh boy, the same thread again.

>>153823004

Studiowarriors are really just repetitive and unimaginative.

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whatever

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>>153958818
>tfw he hired a glassblower to figure out exactly how much detail/elasticity goes into a glass' curvature

>>153956848
weaponized autism

>>153958132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKTGTyxdsoU

Here is a sad fact that many people do not understand, you have a good story, good comedy, good fucking anything, the animation is just icing on the cake, very VERY expensive icing.

you cut corners on the animation and its good enough, this allows you to push forward with another season because it doesn't take 8000+ 100$ a disc 2 episodes a bluray to sell.

Fluid 24+ frame animation should be reserved for either full cg pieces, or for key arc ending scenes, think those moments that define the series going forward. Even if you have the budget for that kind of animation, at the very least weekly tv series should not use it just because of the impact they will have if used sparingly.

>>153960546
this triggers me

C'mon BroAnis why do we even bother ourselves with DEENdu nuffins?

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>>153948828
>Choppy, forced garbage
>Good animation

>>153958620
this

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>>153948828
>this fucking thread again

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>this thread again

DEEN finds a way.

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>>153965341

>>153948828
Isn't that webm the definition of forced animation?

>>153966388
She's throwing a tantrum, she's supposed to be spazzing out.

Evergarden will solidify kyoani's place on top.

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>It's a KyoAni versus the whole Industry thread
>Again

>>153968903
>it's a Kyoani lost to a random show
>again

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>>153969236
>lost
Just because Konosuba is more pandery thus more marketable doesn't mean that Maidragon isn't objectively better overall.

>>153968903
>versus the whole Industry
Is that even necessary when fucking DEEN alone is beating them twice in the same season?

>>153968903
why must kyoani always win?

How the fuck does your circlejerk where you pretend to be kyoani-fans and kyoani-haters at the same time keep repeating this shit for years without ever getting boring to all of you?

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>>153969393
KyoAni outsource less than 15% of their works, DEEN is just a shell company, more than 80% is outsourced or done by freelancers, so yeah, it's KyoAni vs the Industry like in most cases since every other studio not named KyoAni delegates roughly 50% of the work.

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>all these kyoanifags

>>153969236
"Winning" is determined by animation quality since that is the purpose of a studio which sadly Konosuba and Rakugo lack in spades.

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>>153952809
Epic memes crossboarder scum.

Kyoani should do Imaishi action style anime if they want to really print money.

>>153951078
>forced animation
This meme again.

>>153969680
>muh in house
This kind of retarded mentality that refuses a resource as useful as the selection of talent far from their comfort zone is the reason why their work is so stale and they will never accomplish anything even remotely close to the greatness of Space Dandy. Or even Mob Psycho really.

>>153948828
Looks more forced than anything Kyoani has ever done.

>>153958620
Maybe it's an easter egg? She's actually a vampire and vamps have no reflection so it would make sense.

>>153970112
This.
Kyoani wish their output could be at least half as good as Bones'.

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>>153962435
how about this one?

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>>153970112
Thanks for proving my point. Bare-Bones couldn't achieve something like Space Dandy, Mob or even Nichijou with just their in-house staff, so they resort to bad business practices like outsourcing. No wonder why they're almost always in the red while KyoAni keeps thriving from their independence and assertive thinking. KyoAni is also quite literally saving the industry by training animators, in contrast the industry is relying on Korean monkeys more and more.

>>153970384
So outsourcing leads to ambitious works that couldn't exist otherwise like Space Dandy.
While in house leads to the stale mediocrity that is the recent Kyoani output.
Unless you're the studios accountant, it's not hard to see what's the path with the greatest artistic outcome.

>>153948828
Looks something out of the simpsons

>>153952809
that's ufotable dear dumb anon

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>>153970582
At least say Mob, Space Dandy is on a lower tier than Nichijou in terms of animation, but Mob beats both.

>>153970112
>Space Dandy
>Mob Psycho
Which are projects that show up once in a blue moon. They're not representative of Bones flagship projects at all.

>>153970697
Modern Yutaka Nakamura is trash.

>>153970697
It's not only about animation. The talent involved in every part of Space Dandy's visual direction put the other two to shame.

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>>153948828
>That framerate
Can you really even call that animation?

>>153970582
If kyoani got some western funding they could easily surpass space dandy level shit with their inhouse staff and not work everyone to death, don't fool yourself.

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Maid Dragon is the true sakuga anime of the season.

>>153970920
I can't wait for Violet.

>>153970955
Space Dandy wasn't funded by the west.
Toonami only bought the airing rights, that's all.

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atleast kumicuck can slide

>>153971051
>looking forward to Ishidate's work as a director
Why are you setting yourself up for disappointment?

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>>153971051
>>153971139

It will be trash, hope it's just a movie so they can get over it quickly and focus on other things that don't involve their shitty LN label, it will be a treat to the eyes though.

>>153970920
was the final movie for this good?

>>153971162
If KyoAni animators were truly skilled, they'd animate the background in 2D as well rather than relying on CG.

>>153971162
>forced animation
Am i supposed to be impressed? Hibikek Shitphonium was nothing more than a polished turd

>>153970920
All the animation in the world can't save this series from being lackluster garbage. Not even a "Muh studio warz" babbie. Just stating facts.

>>153971051
It sounds pretty neat, hopefully Ishidate will take this project seriously this time.

>>153971279
looks at her gliding around the corner, literally

>>153948828
>he hasn't watched Maidragon yet
>saying bullshit like this
I know you're shitposting but come on!

>>153971310
I believe the premise I was arguing was that the abomination OP posted had better animation than what Kyoani produces.

>>153971386
You gotta be blind, what OP posted is 10x better than anything Kyoani has done.

>>153971312
>It sounds pretty neat
Yeah, a real masterpiece of literature.

>Not even while being a machine girl can she be left with wet clothes. As a change of clothes was necessary, she lay a bathrobe around her supposedly perfect body and headed for the bathroom. It had been a while since anyone other than Oscar regularly used it, so in a lapse of memory, he entered it without knocking and ended up seeing her while she was had not changed yet.

>“Ah, I’m sor… ry… eh?”

>He swallowed his breath due to perplexity.

>“EEEH?!”

>What was reflected in Oscar’s eyes was a sight more bewitchingly beautiful than any naked woman. Dripping golden hair. Beautiful blue orbs of a dimension that would not soften even within a painting. The finely-shaped lips just below them. A flesh body with a slender neck, an outstanding collarbone, plump breasts, and feminine curves.

>Her artificial arms consisted of metal rings from the shoulders to the fingertips. But it was only them. Despite the many scratches, other than the arms, the rest was surprisingly real skin. With that delicate body, she did not seem at all like a mechanical doll, but a relatively normal human being.

>With everything he had believed in until then being mantled over by the shocking revelation, Oscar tried to confirm what he was seeing many times.

>“Master.” Violet called with a voice that seemed to be judging him as he continued to ogle in astonishment.

>“UAAAAAAH! UAAAAAH! UAAAAAHAAAAAH!”

>Part of the outcome of that incident was Oscar’s screaming. The other was him half-crying while going beet-red, after having yelled on top of his lungs, frantically inquiring, “Are you human, after all?!”

>Wrapping a towel around herself, Violet plainly commented, “Master is, truly, a troublesome person.” Her cheeks were rose-dusted as she muttered, her face a little lowered.

>>153960554
i'd blow illya's ass...i mean glass.

>>153971386
The Konosuba webm is more expressive and lively than anything Kyoani have ever done.

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>>153970103

>>153971439
I miss this.

>>153971480
Imaishi's style would be more interesting than whatever stale in-house style Kyoani has.

>>153971428
PICKED UP

>>153948828
Is this a joke? This looks janky as all fuck. Kyoani's animations are fluid and nice looking.

No, I'm not saying Kyoani is better in general, so don't bother getting hyper defensive, but DEEN stuff is usually lower quality.

>>153971523
You're in the wrong thread, cancer.

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>>153971162
>Those subtle changes in her expression as tears begin to flow, Kumiko realizing this, she closes her eyes for just one moment as to hide her raw emotions from the people around, but then lets it all go as she keeps running.

A perfect example of KyoAni's forte, body language through subtle and natural animation.

>>153952666
Satan is lying

>>153971439
All I want in my life is another season of Hyouka, or maybe a movie, then I would kill myself happy.

>>153971563
>sliding around the corner
>natural

>>153971428
>not a robot
Perfect.

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>>153971428
>“Master.” Violet called

>>153970103
LWA is flopping so I don't see how that would make them money.

>>153971593
People slip. /sp/ can tell you all about slipping.

>>153971562
You know I'm right. There's nothing interesting about Kyoani's house style.

>>153971523
Hell no. Imaishi is already stale as it is, no need for another one.

>>153971649
Still doing better than Maidragon.
And popularity will skyrocket once it hits Netflix worldwide.

>>153971428
Konosuba is a better source material than this.

>>153971736
The latest LWA episode is better than anything Kyoani has done in the last 5 years.

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>>153952809
>Prep the bull kyocuck

First one that i've heard.

>>153971738
Actually Maidragon has surpassed it as far as average rank goes as well as points, Maidragon has 2,065 and LWA has 1,822. Also Maidragon is like 3 times more popular than LWA in Japan judging by number of pixiv art, twitter posts, google trends and non-episode Nico views.

>>153971896
Maidragon goes on sale much earlier than LWA though.

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I love watching useless goddess suffer.

>>153971792
You're not allowed here, lwa-scum.

>>153971952
Sure, but that doesn't make much of a difference, specially when LWA will be competing against heavy hitters next season for a couple of weeks, no one will be pre-ordering it anymore, see 3gatsu for a recent example. At most that extra month will grant them 200-300 more pre-orders. In the end they'll do around the same but Maidragon is a rookie project by KyoAni and LWA is Trigger's most shilled franchise, not even Toho marketing could save it from mediocre sales.

>>153971736
>>153971738
>>153971896
>>153971952
>>153972088
This is a Kyoani vs. Deen thread. Take any other discussions out of it.

>>153972166
This is a KyoAni vs the Industry thread as always, see >>153969680

>>153972088
3gatsu was an adaption and the horrible Shaft treatment it got turned everyone off anyway.
LWA is an original and after the low point of episodes 4 and 5 it's picking up the pace.
Then again just like the OVAs, it will hit big once he comes out of Japan.

>>153971792
Imashi style is certainly different but I wouldn't call that episode better than the Kyokai no Kanata movie or even some episodes from Phantom Sales, and according to some people who have seen Koe no Katachi, the movie has some very impressive cuts.

>>153972351
Maid dragon is is also picking up steam with each ep and unlike trigger which will split their profits, kyoani gets 100% of it plus their online store.

>>153972607
>according to some people who have seen Koe no Katachi, the movie has some very impressive cuts.
KyoAni fanboys don't count. I'd be surprised if the movie has cuts on par with Kimi no Na Wa.

>>153972655
Maid dragon isn't even their property.
And now you're going to pull up the committee argument, without fully understanding how it works, do you

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Even Garbriel Dropout is doing better than Maid Shit

>>153972920
I wouldn't say he's 100% right but KyoAni will get a larger share as far as domestic BD sales go, the other companies involved in the committee are PC/Lantis which have to do with music discs, voice talent and events, and Asahi which is in charge of international distribution and rights. Since the manga publisher isn't there, they were probably just paid a fixed fee to hand over part of the IP adaptation, likewise any manga sale boosts won't matter to KyoAni or anyone else involved in the committee.

>>153973086
GabDro BD has more extras, 4 episodes per volume(though at the same price of 2 volumes with 2 episodes each), and the event has already been confirmed. Maidragon also has an event but for some reason it isn't announced in the Amazon page, they just tweeted about it once so not many people know.

>>153968612
It's her first time throwing a tantrum like that though.
It's kinda jarring because the situation wasn't even that dire.