The best drawing software from Japan is on sale right now. You

>>/ic/

>>153745074
I'm already too entrenched in photoshop.

>>153745074
Why is it best?

>>153745074
Can't afford it and even if I could I'm more comfortable with pencil or ink on paper.
Nothing's holding me back. Just have to finish writing this plot.

>>153745074
>best
>not SAI

>>153745074
Why should I switch to it over just using comicStudio? I assume it has better painting tools + animation tools, but comicstudio seems like it's pretty much as good as it gets as far as just linework tools.

>>153745123
Easy to use, specialized to a greater degree to drawing than at least photoshop.

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>>153745074
>buying software

>>153745074
SHILL DETECTED

>>153745074
Already bought it.

I don't know- I've been writing my comic for a while now, I haven't been able to put down any rough sketches- I kept making title cards but I keep starting over from scratch.

I suppose I just don't feel my work is up to par yet.

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Because I can't draw for shit.
An artist can have the most expensive tablet on the market and the best creative suite available; it's all meaningless if like me he's utterly cack-handed.

>>153745527
Well, practice then.

>>153745596
Bah, no time.

My dick is a pencil, my semen is ink and my hand a canvas.

>>153745403
You mean OpenCanvas [6]?

>>153746597
This one looks unstable and like it crashes all the time. Do you use it regularly?

>>153745074
>You want to make a manga don't you? You have that idea, what is holding you back?
Because i cant draw for shit. I have some really great stories, but not being able to draw is a major setback. So i used my ideas to write some novellas. Maybe some day i will be good enough to make a manga.

Also, I do like drawing by hand, because i cant into computers and i refuse to pay money for things i can pirate.

>>153745074
>You want to make a manga don't you? You have that idea, what is holding you back?

There has never been a single gaijin that made a manga and got it in a popular magazine and made a shitty living off it. So what's the fucking point lol

>>153747406
So you are a nigger?

>>153747440
This. The Japanese are successful at this shit because people leave them alone - everywhere else in the world sensible parents will encourage their children to do something that, in their eyes, will actually make money and have job security until retirement age, whatever.
So unless you're both a NEET and people leave you the fuck alone, or you have a job and no friends then good luck.

>>153745074
Lack of money, time, commitment and talent, among other things.

>>153747440
>>153747543
Well fuck you guys I'm autistic enough to do it.

But anon, I already own it.

>>153746597
>opencanvas
>not free and open source software
What?

>>153748875
Elevens won't buy a manga made by an ugly gaijin.

>>153749790
comic*

>>153745074
>The best drawing software from Japan is on sale right now

what happened to SAI?

I use SAI and Medibang with Photoshop for final touches. A lot of friends really recommend Clip Studio though, but I'm too lazy to even pirate it.

>>153745162

I'd argue with you, but god, SAI loads up so fast, everything else feels like a goddamn slug.

>>153750068
i tried to install sai once and it wanted to scan my entire hard drive for some reason, i don't appreciate this

>>153750045
CSP is pretty much mashing a bit of Photoshop, SAI and maybe Illustrator together. What actually impresses me most of CSP is how it manipulates vectors, even if I am not going to use them

>>153745074
Because I own SAI and all I can do with it is make doodles of cute girls.

>>153750068
SAI is shit compared to CSP

Just use paper lol.

>>153751508
this tbhonestly
this digital fad will die soon enough

Because SAI exists.

>>153745074
I only use photoshop, does CSP has the manga filters? is it easy? where can I pirate it?

>>153750414
Using CSP for drawing and painting is like sex compared to PS. The drawing engine is much more efficient and faster, it has easy to use perspective guides and common fill patterns, watercolor brushes actually work like you'd imagine them and blending colors is easy and intuitive. The perspective guides alone make it worth it for me.

>>153751711
Don't know if it's still the case but you can download and use it freely on their website account. You just can't load and save things.
That's what I did first and eventually bought the software for 14$ something.

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Also, why use CSP when there already exists an application that respects my freedom?

Post a single example of manga you've made.

which program has the manga filters or more likely is there a site where I can save them? i only use photoshop

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>>153752173
What manga filters? Like these?

>>153752356
yeah

>>153752496
That's Clip Studio Paint then. I took that pic right from its features page.

>>153752356
Godamn, that's just cheating.

>>153752520
is it easy to use?

>>153752723
I'd say so if you're already familiar with Photoshop and willing to learn to use it. The tools interface is just different to PS and reminded me a little of SAI's, not difficult though. Most keyboard shortcuts can be configured to be the same, too.

>>153747543
So you seriously think that Japanese parents jump of joy when one of their kids tell them they want to be a mangaka and support them?
Are you fucking stupid?

>>153747543
have you not read about mangakas having to hide their project to their folks because of how much they are against it?

>>153753754
>>153754129
ONE is a good example how his parents were against him drawing manga.

>>153752356
>tfw can literally just go outside into the nature in my home country, take a bunch of photos and filter them into manga backgrounds

I'm going to be the next Asano Inio

No one ever got rich off of drawing. Dont do it.
Theres millions of dirt poor people better than you at it having been drawing from age of 5, dont bother.

>>153745102
>can't even crosslink right

>>>/reddit/

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>>153746356
The thread should've ended at this post.

>>153754223
Fucking Inuyashiki does this. They filter everything and draw characters on top of it. It's pretty good regardless.

>>153754208
Amongst other thousand examples.
No matter where you go, no parent is happy to hear their children are going to enter a work field that has ungodly work schedules with a popularity-based pay that 99.999% of the cases will be barely enough to afford living expenses.
Being a mangaka is shit.

>>153754269
Remember to buy my doujinshi.

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>>153752356
WHAT THE FUCK

EVERYTHING I KNOW IS A LIE

I HATE MANGA NOW

>>153745074
>what is holding you back?
The fact that I can't draw for shit.

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>>153752356

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CPmOtzdn84

>>153747455

this is a odd random response anon.

>>153754555
>record painting process
>set speed x4
>call it speed paint

>>153745074
>what is holding you back?

The fact i'm not in japan or japanese and manga industry is extremely racist.
The fact westerners prefer colored comics making CSP strong point completely moot.
The fact getting into a western comic magazine is extremely hard due to how much of a circlejerk it is.
The fact it's more profitable to draw furry porn than to be serialized.

>>153745074
I don't , and I did it for 4 years now .

>>153754655
Ironically you are right about everything. This is also why we have the internet now so you can do webcomics and get rich.

>>153754655
>>153754758

No he isn't right about anything:

>The fact i'm not in japan or japanese and manga industry is extremely racist.

Not true, there's a handful of westerns that published manga.

>The fact westerners prefer colored comics making CSP strong point completely moot.

You can color in CSP or just do lineart in CSP and then color in photoshop. So this is a silly argument.

>The fact getting into a western comic magazine is extremely hard due to how much of a circlejerk it is.

No it's not, you're obvious getting all your ideas from /co/ because you don't know what the fuck your're talking about you baka.

Go to conventions, be nice, be decent, make a site, make a twitter, be nice, make a webcomic, be nice.

do furry thing is true though.

>>153745074
My dreams are dead and so should yours

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>>153754627
You mean they don't draw it fast like that?

>>153745074
>On sale
>$25.00

If you live in Burgerland you could get it physically for $21.00 w/ free shipping for a while now

That being said, CSP is pretty snazzy with all the user-generated brushes. It runs fairly smoothly and the layout is fairly close to SAI so there isn't that steep of a learning curve.

SAI is still my go to drawing program though, if only because I can stick it on a flash drive and load it up where ever I want.

>>153754992
I knew a guy that knew a guy that drew so fast his arms fell off.

>>153745739
>>153747406
>>153747440
>>153747592
>>153754416

Never gonna make it

>>153745074
My lack of drawing skills.

>>153747406
>I have some really great stories
No you don't.

>>153754555
>draw head
>draw entire body
>delete head and redraw it
>delete entire body and redraw it
I thought I was the only faggot who did this

>>153754931
>You can color in CSP or just do lineart in CSP and then color in photoshop. So this is a silly argument.

Why? Photoshop alone is perfectly fine.

>>153747543
I'm a NEET, a hikki, and have no friends. I think I will make this my goal in life.

>>153745074
I will go with krita

What does it have that Photoshop can't do?

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>blatant advertising thread up for more than 8 hours
Truly devilish.

Post a drawing of yours. Doesn't matter how bad you think it is, lets see them.

>>153756461
probably it crashes more

>>153756461
Animation shit built in

>>153756476
No anon I just cured my drawing addiction.

>>153745074
I fell for this meme, a previous time it went on sale. But all the tutorials I see are for SAI, whereas CSP barely has any and all of them are shit.

>>153745074
Bought it a long time ago on a sale, still can't draw, wasn't worth it.

>>153756698
>thinking tutorials will make you good artist

Krita is better and free.

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>>153756476
Some people even thought I plagiarised from a few manga.

>>153756461
If you're going by " what Photoshop can't do" then not much. Photoshop can do pretty much everything CSP can but CSP is optimized for comic production and illustrations. The painting engine is way faster, perspective guides are easy to set up, speech bubbles and frame borders are easy to place, you can set up your project with pages instead of individual files, pen pressure profiles can be set for individual brushes, it has built-in stabilization, etc. Just many small things it does better than PS that add up to a better experience if you use it what it's meant for.

>>153756698
>needing tutorials to use drawing software

>>153745074
I've had it for over a year and never used it. Is there a guide or anything that will teach me about it? It took ages for me to learn photoshop and I still don't know how to do everything on it.

>>153756904
The faces need worked. Are you copying Bleach?

>>153756895
Can you explain how Krita is better than CSP?

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>>153756904
I forgot about that guy

>>153756985
>Are you copying bleach?
Like most artists I am inspired by work I admire. There are certain similarities between some of my work and his. This was simply meant as an homage to the artist I respect.

>>153756805
>>153756928
still an advantage for SAI, objectively

>>153757061
can you explain how CSP is better?

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>>153756476
I tried to manga once, then I realized the time and effort to put into it was immense and gave up.

Still, it gave me motivation to learn to draw but that dwindled over time. Pic related is a one of many stuff I'll never finish.

Because SAI's stabilizer is the real shit compared to CSP.

>>153757215
I don't know, I've never used either one. That's why I'm asking.

>>153747440
1. Learn Japanese
2. Get a job in Japan so you can actually hear how its spoken (one thing to learn it, another to learn how its actually used)
3. Make a penname
4. Never show your face
5. If need be, pay a nip friend to pretend to be you.
There you go. To anyone that doesn't know, you're a 100% pureblooded nip.

>>153757137
Fuck off Nick Simmons.

>>153757215
I would argue that CSP provides a better in-program library of materials/textures/brushes that you can use just buy purchasing the program.

Arguably, you can just import your own brushes to Krita. However, I think it's useful to have unlimited access to a library of free to use brushes/materials that are created by other artists.

Krita's layout isn't as easy to grasp as CSP's is, but I have less issues getting my shitty monoprice tablet to work with Krita than I do CSP.

>>153752684
>>153754371
Did you REALLY think all artists still draw backgrounds on their own? How cute.

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who brought CSP EX for a really cheap as shit price here

>>153757266
The only reason holding me back.

>>153749790
What is rwby

>>153757455
How?

>>153757543
rwby manga is made by Shirow Miwa though.

>>153757455
>buy Clip Studio Paint Pro on sale to be able to download brushes and materials
>steal Manga Studio EX to use the additional features
>brushes and materials are compatible between the two

So how does this compare to ArtRage or Painter? Is it more focused on manga / anime and more efficient if all you wanna do is that?

>>153756945

Not even on youtube?

except i'm a gaijin so it wouldn't be successful

>>153757649

2lewd4me

>not using SAI

>not using notepad to write the image data directly

>>153757717
So you can't download the additional stuff unless you have legally bought it?
Something like the Creative Cloud services in Adobe software that require you to sign in with your ID?

>>153756904
>Some people even thought I plagiarised from a few manga.
Did you mean magma?

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>Not using Manga Maker Comipo for all your manga making

>>153758359
Adobe CC has been cracked to where any ID works.

>>153745074
Doesn't Yoshikazu from Tsugumomo use Comic Studio?

>>153758980
>> starts crying...
Don't.

>>153758997
Yes, but he use very old version for some reason.

>>153759149
Fucking hell dude, update your shit.
At least his drawings are still god tier.

I'm getting into art, would this actually be a good program to start with or would using something like SAI be a good start.

>>153759361

for free? sai or kirita is the way to go,

versatility and amazing tool-set? CSP imo

>>153745074
>You want to make a manga don't you?
Not really, I'm not the creative type.
> You have that idea, what is holding you back?
Talent, or the lack thereof.

>>153759361
some paper, some pencils and an eraser would be the best start

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>>153759042
Thanks anon kun, you've saved me

>>153745074
I'll just use PaintTool SAI

>>153759361
Pencil and paper.

>>153759201
You know, he was pretty average before. But if you see some of his porn doujinshi stuff, you'll see that he had the potential.

It's always about how much you practice

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>tfw you're too old to start learning how to draw

>>153759524
No such thing.

>>153759524
Unless you're in a elderly center and have crippling arthritis, you're still young enough to draw.

>>153759547
>>153759588
Don't lie to him, if you haven't draw all your life its already too late

>>153757265
Your lineart is great.

>>153759609
Fuck off, ESL.

>>153759524
Unless you're a bedridden 70 years old, you're never too late to start.

>>153759361
>I'm getting into art
>>153759493
>>153759474

How's it for scanlation?

>>153759524
Being older is actually an advantage. Sure you've wasted some of your lifespan. But you can draw upon a larger pool of experience and be more disciplined than you were as a dumb, ignorant child.

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>>153756476
old sketch that I never finished but cleaned up enough to share with the writefag.
I've used Photoshop for almost a decade because of photography and the PS controls are too ingrained into my brain to switch to any other software.

>>153755319
Yes i do.

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>>153760010
>>153756476
One more, I suppose.
I want to share the latest artwork but that's likely to sit on the backburner for months if not a year due to slow plot pacing.
~Meidos~

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>>153760010
will fap to this

I'm more of a traditional artist. I only draw on paper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTbl5rG0BZo

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>>153760137

Which mangakas use CSP?

>>153759524
you're never too old to learn something new
especially so if you enjoy doing it

dont worry about being shit everyone starts off shit, just keep at it and improve little by little, it's not a competitiion

Why do you draw? What's your reason behind it?

>>153760200
tosh

I've been considering giving up drawing honestly, even though I've had a manga-style comic I've wanted to draw for years now

>>153752356
How do I do this in Clip?

>>153754275
>>>/r/eddit
>>>/a/nywhere >>>/b/ut >>>/h/ere

>>153747440
ShindoL is pretty popular

>>153760224
I want to draw cute girls and create more material for my niche fetish.

>>153760224
I don't know, I just like to draw. I never intended on doing this for money.

>>153760782
ShindoL is half Japanese.

>>153761107
He lives (and was born?) in America.

>>153761107
His name is Larry.

Larry Shindo

Just let that sink in for a minute.

>>153761129
Yes he was born in New York. Brooklyn I think?

>>153747440
Gaijin are doing just fine drawing porn, so do that. You can also put a proper manga on patreon and if it's good enough people will also buy the volumes if you decide to actually publish. Also korean webcomic system somehow works so do that.

>>153761129
cont
From time to time here are some threads about western whores who try to publish / get into anime industry and start throwing a hissfit when they have little popularity. E.g. recently there was some shit about a German women who got a manga published in Japan.

>>153761209
>Larry Shindo
He must've had a fun time in school.

>tfw I jumped on the Paint Meme Sai bandwagon
>It's good except I fucking hate that there's no orthogonal line tool like Photoshop does by holding shift(?).

It really needs a few more functions in general.
Also I need new brushes.

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>>153756476
I use Paint Tool SAI for the sketching and painting + Photoshop for colour effects

SAI 2 Beta tool: https://www.systemax.jp/en/sai/devdept.html
CGPersia's license patcher
https://transfer.sh/Tjt3r/sai2x64-patcher.exe
Latest version of photoshop. CC 2017 (The crack you want is by PainteR)

Literally painted in the basic brush because SAI has no good texture brushes.

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>>153761537
*
And the people who draw so neatly with lineart and shading and backgrounds must have massive autism because it must take hours

>>153761670
I am unable to do decent lineart, even sketchy stuff, without taking hours anyway. It's by biggest obstacle to really getting my drawing together because I burn out quick.

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>>153761670
It does takes time either way but learning how to get faster at getting a correct result matters a lot. No need to make it too clean at all.

>>153761730
I think it does take hours.
Lining is so boring.

>>153762020
I like it more than coloring. I need speed though.

>Using LazyNezumi
Nice going CHEATERS

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CSP is basically SAI but better + more features including lots of time saving stuff

Photoshop is also inferior to CSP for animu drawings but it's still good for some things like text, layer styles, vector masks

>>153762104
>Not a single post about it in the thread
(You)

>>153760137
Once I wiped my ass and the last wipe was a little bit bloody.
It ended up looking like a fucking rose, a brown/yellow stem with deep red petals.

I took a picture. Almost wanted to frame it.

Drawing mostly on tablets is fucking stupid.
Most of these good "artists" who can make good pictures using their tablet can't actually paint. I was trying to commission an actual painting a few months ago (I was offering a few thousand dollars) and the samples I got were laughable. It's hard to find a good real artist, art is pretty much a dichotomy now, "modern" artists which is garbage and people that are good on tablets but can't transfer their skills to physical mediums aside from pencil/pens and maybe charcoal.

>>153762020
I disagree, once you can make better ones it gets really fun.

>>153762104
Not using it but that's really not cheating. It gives off very artificial lines which doesn't compare at all to what really high tier artists can do without it.

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Post drawing webms

>>153756476
Someone once posted my fan art here on /a/ in a waifu image dump thread, and that actually put a dumb smile on my face.

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>>153762160

>>153762160
>tfw I'm good at pencil/charcoal and going through the learning curve of going digital
First time I tried it out it felt like I was flung into the far-future.

>>153762160
'Real art' costs a shitload of money to buy all the supplies. There is also a linear relationship between more expensive supplies and better results. If you use a shit brush it will look like shit, if you use shit paints it will look like shit, if you use shit canvas it will look like shit, if your easel is one slab of DIY'd wood it will look like shit, if you just reused that palette for the 50th time it will look like shit and if you are standing in a room with shit ass lighting it will also look like shit.

To make good digital art all you need are materials you can pirate and a top of the line digital tablet that only costs a fraction of the amount it would cost to buy paints. There's a reason why real art sells typically for several hundred thousand dollars and not a few thousand dollars. It also takes time to do shit like dry.

>>153762160
They are both different disciplines that require different sets of skills. Asking a digital artist to paint something is like asking a sculptor to knit you a sweater.

>>153762160
That's because it's something entirely different to learn. Like how you need to learn all the way to work digitally you need to learn how to work well on paper. In the end the "tricks" available digitally also have similar ones traditionnally, it's something to learn and get good at trough training (like how mangaka can do perfectly clean pages). I honestly don't feel like bothering doing that at all for now, maybe one day, but digital is just way more enjoyable.

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>>153760137

>>153762231
I know that feel anon. Someone posted my (cropped) lewd fanart once and it made me so happy.

>>153762320
It's also extremmely easy to totally fuck up your work.

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>>153762228
Not a webm but some good comfy shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_cWLxtcsNU

>>153762418
It requires fucking autism to not smudge your work or accidentally touch the paint as it dries.

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>>153756476
Not very /a/ friendly but whatever.

>>153762399
Yeah, it's small things like those that can really get you motivated.

You have to be able to draw first to even consider what software to use

>>153762455
Yeah, tried painting and acrilyc several times and I fucking can't deal with it. I can be very patient for a digital work but on paper I can't manage at all, you can't be as precise and you can't easily redo parts.

>>153762455
>or accidentally touch the paint as it dries.
Okay come on you have to be a sperg to accidentally touch it while drying. Literally all you have to do is stand away from it.

>>153762521
I can draw on paper but I can't draw on software
Wat do fampai

>>153762365
>That's because it's something entirely different to learn
Not really, all the traditional artist has to do is learn how the software they are using works.
The traditional artist will have a much easier time switching to digital than the digital artist switching to traditional mediums.
>>153762418
>It's also extremmely easy to totally fuck up your work.
Digital artist can fuck up all they want and still have the finished product turn out the way it is supposed to.
>>153762320
>There's a reason why real art sells typically for several hundred thousand dollars and not a few thousand dollars. It also takes time to do shit like dry.
The actual good artists will always produce physical art, not digital. Thanks to internet, if you are a good classical painter you can easily make a at least 6 figures a year doing a few commissions/selling a few paintings a year.

>>153762365
>In the end the "tricks" available digitally also have similar ones traditionnally
In my experience thats not true at all. When I went from paper to digital I pretty much had to regress to the level of a 5yo and re-learn everything I knew. Even basic shit like anatomy or color theory seemed to have completely disappeared from my head. I am still struggling to make something that is not shit.
Skills don't translate so easily.

>200 posts in
>no one reporting the thread for shilling

>>153762610
Classical art is overrated honestly. Just yesterday I walked by someone's painting lying abandoned on the streets.

With digital you can draw anywhere with classical you are stuck indoors, stuck with dirty easels, brushes that have be washed, oils and paints that smell poisonous.

>>153762734
>and re-learn everything
Not really your ability to pose/position characters, figure out where you need to shade and how to maximise colouration would stay with you.

>>153762595
That's because physical art is easier than digital art.

>>153752019
>Draw a line
>the program lags the fuck out
No thanks

>>153762595
A normal feeling for beginners.

Took me more than a month to get used to my tablet tb h since I draw with my shoulder and using a small tablet really sucks.

>>153762734
That's exactly what I meant. Both have tricks to get similar results but they're totally different to learn. Digitally I got much better at coloring but on paper I can't do shit because I don't know how to use properly the tools.

>>153762858
>That's because physical art is easier than digital art.
(You)

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>>153759810
That's not how it works. It's the opposite way.

>>153762858
>your ability to pose/position characters, figure out where you need to shade and how to maximise colouration would stay with you.
HAHAHAHA;-;

>>153761209
And you guys made him deactivate his facebook account. Fuck you.

>>153763058
I dont even have a facebook but thats pretty hilarryous

>>153762160
You're paying thousands for a drawing?

D-do you need any drawing request? I got Paint ready.

>>153763023
It took me at least a few months to get the skills to transition over.

>>153745074
I'm tempted to do so

>>153763005
Depends on the person still. If you have a job similar to a complacent retailer you can't possibly have a discipline of a project manager when it comes to art. This analogy kinda sucks but I hope you get the point.

>>153763150
>You're paying thousands for a drawing?
I gave up trying to find one. I found three actual classical artists but they wouldn't paint what I wanted, so I'm just saving that money and saving up to pay a sculptor I found to make two bronze statues.
I wanted a classical style of a female night elf from WoW, but I'm just gonna pay for two life size (6'5") bronze statues of them instead.
I tried finding a marble sculptor in the US online for weeks but the one I did find is on a few year wait list, so I'm just going with bronze.

Do oil pastels work well on mixed media paper? Just brush it gently and color?

>>153763307
Just pay to get a 3D sculpture that will get printed.

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>>153763005
The main thing kids have going for them is time. A kid who toys around with glorified scribbles for years is bound to improve. Their lack of standards helps. They barely care about what they draw. They just keep drawing and drawing and slowly improve passively. Someone who does that for 8 years can build a decent foundation for when they are old enough to actually focus on improving.
An adult can't do that anymore because they'd very quickly feel discouraged when the only thing they can do is shitty scribbles.

Luckily the advantage that adults have is that they can focus and learn from books. It takes years of trial and error for a kid to figure out how perspective works. A grown up can get a decent grasp in a few months with Norling and practise. It still takes a lot of time and dedication though.

>>153763480
>Just pay to get a 3D sculpture that will get printed.
No

>>153745074
whats the difference between the PRO an EX versions?

Adobe Illustrator is better than Comic/Manga Studio and Clip Studio Paint, but MS and CSP is dedicated to making Comics. Someone could probably make an add-on to AI to make Japanese Comic Software obsolete

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>>153764235
mostly manga workflow related stuff. feature comparison is here: www.clipstudio.net/en/functions

>>153764235
EX has the ability to do a set of pages all in one go rather than having to have every page separate.
EX has no limit on animation frames.
Also some cool stuff with layer options, converting colored layers to tones and lines

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>>153756476
sometimes I wonder why people draw. Is it fun ? every time I draw I have to struggle to keep my attention on the current work. But in the end I never really finish. Guess I dont find it fun.

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>>153756476
I still have a lot to learn.
But I will say that CSP has been one of the better programs I've worked with.

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>>153765450
I used to find it fun. Well to be honest, I still do.
Being able to give physical form to my imaginations is a really good feeling, which is why I kept with it.

But as time moves on, a hobby is just what it is, a hobby. Now I also struggle to keep attention on any of my works because other things are more important than drawing. The difference between pic related when I actually had time and enjoyed drawing to >>153757265
when time is scarce and I have to shelve things from no motivation.

>>153762860
Get a better computer grandpa

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>>153756476

>>153759632
Thanks anon. Spent hours on that because I wanted to make the lines as prefect as I could get it.

>>153766097
>do the same thing with photoshop on a bigger canvas
>Doesn't fuck up
???

>>153745074
Why should i switch from SAI？

>>153766632
Because OP said this is the best drawing software from Japan

>>153745074
>what is holding you back?
I can't draw for shit and I don't have the will to learn.

Is it even fun? Drawing multiple pages of something?

>>153745074
I have no idea how to make nice brushes.

>>153754316
S-source? Checked Google and Ex for the past 20 minutes, and I can't find it.

>>153745074
>shilling on /a/
>and it's not for some streaming site
This is a new low

Anyone know a decent, not oversized brush pack for Sai? Feels like the basic one is very limited.

>>153769789
Make your own

>>153765264
>erasing that easy
This is almost like cheating!

>>153770602
Software has been able to do that for years.

>>153760909
What's your fetish though
>inb4 not legs

>>153762149
That's cheating...

Does it do panels or something?

Krita is free and is quickly developing. It's probably a few years away from being a contender for animation

>>153752356
lmfao this is a fucking redpill

there's no going back from this knowledge, now

>>153762149
>>153765264
Is this on the pro or EX version?

>>153754758
>do webcomics and get rich
Name a single case of this happening.

Let's not even reach for Penny Arcade, they have long since went beyond simply webcomics.

>>153770944
That's what CPS can do in general. So it would be pro.

>>153756476
It's all My Little Pony so I can't

>>153770961
Sakimichan

>>153752356
Is this CSP?

>>153771012
Yes.

>upload failed

wut?

>>153771049
Gook Moot probably

>>153771010
She did webcomics?

>>153759609
You don't lie to yourself you lazy fuck

>>153750104
It does that to check for piracy

>>153754316
Anyone know where this is from? I thought it was a touhou doujin but none of the English ones match up.

>>153745110
Brought to you by the makes of hits like Flash! Try their new product today!

>>153763594
No, kids actually learn more easily, time or no time.

Read some Chomsky nigger.

>>153771401
>tripfag this stupid
Post your work

>>153745074
Don't fall for the CSP-meme /a/
There are no cheaper looking comics than ones made with stock screen tones and gradients found in the package. Sometimes a tool can be so easy to work with things come out looking worse as a result.

>>153771401
Yeah, of course no one else but a shitskin /b/tard that would misquote chumpsky!

>>153771401
They learn easier, but they're dumber about it.

I remember when I thought the best way to learn anatomy was to copy the same goku picture over and over and try to draw it from memory

I mean it worked but it was crazy inefficient.

>>153771445
What the fuck is "stock screentone"? Tone is tone. It'll look different when it's printed and scanned for fuck sakes, go educate yourself about image resolution and print sizes.

>>153771445
>screen tones
>cheap
Hope you're joking.

>>153771425
I can't seem to upload images. Is it the same for anyone else?

>>153771445
>stock screentones
>become shit when put on 600dpi
I laugh at you.

>>153771508
Fuck off back to /b/

>>153752019
krita sucks balls

>>153771490
>>153771498
>>153771534
>there's only one kind of screen tone, the dot one!
'kay

>>153765931
cute

>>153771561
we already know you're just talking out of your ass, stop now

>>153747406
Can we read some stories, anon-kun?

>>153756928
How do you be optimized for "illustration"?

>>153750329
holy fuck this brings back memories.

>>153771801
Nice loaded question fag, try actually reading the post you responded to.

>>153771872
>/b/
>/r9k/
>/pol/
I didn't thought tripfags could reach this level of cancer holy shit

>>153771942
I don't browse those boards. I just know they're the fastest ones, so I quickly opened them and scanned them for anyone having upload issues.

>>153752356
Fuck, I cant unsee this now.
Thanks asshole.

>>153745430
t. unemployed GNUfag

>>153771963
>I don't browse those boards.
You should, they're great boards that appreciate and respect tripfriends

its back?

why the actual fuck is this fucking blatant advertisement thread still fucking alive!?

!MOOT, MODS, JANITORS, FOR FUCK SAKE

>>153772335
>!MOOT, MODS, JANITORS
Why do you think they turned off the image servers? Can't risk people posting CP while everyone is asleep.

>>153745074
>You want to make a manga don't you?
>Implying I need digital software like some kind of plebeian
Besides, traditional inking and crosshatching feels so good

>>153751849
I know, I have the EX version. I just have not been able to use it much because I'm limited to Photoshop because art academy meme but I don't regret spending all that money after trying it just a few times

>>153745074
I'd get bored of drawing the same shit for months in a row. Fuck that shit.

>>153745074
I would, but the layout and tools are too confusing for a retard like me to figure out. Anyone know of any good tutorials of the program that at least tells me all the essential info?

>>153771963
/r9k/ is slower than /a/

>>153760048
Then make your manga and prove it to us
Even bad artists can pull their own weight if they have a great story/writing to carry it. You'll get better as you draw more and more. Just look at ONE

What's the best screen recorder? OBS cannot do separate windows within the program (dialogue boxes etc)

>>153760782
SHINDOL IS A GAJIN?!

>>153763058
I think that was because he violated the cardinal rule and made a Yotsuba doujin. In days of yore he would have been tracked down and thrown off a bridge.

No thanks, Krita is free and plenty for me

Plus I have no fucking idea how to digital paint.

>>153772943
Clearly because you are using Krita

>>153772961
There is nothing wrong with Krita, I tried Gimp, SAI, Mischief and Corel Painter 2016 trial all too.

I do not know how to digital paint.

>>153772880
Not really
>half jap
>speaks jap
>draws jap
>dual citizenship
>raised in Queens, New York
He's a returnee if anything

Because...I don't have a tablet.

>tfw you will never be able to draw.

>>153772943
>>153772961
>>153772995
Krita is amazing. It's much better than GIMP for actual art work.

>>153773143
>dual citizenship
Japan does not allow dual citizenships, you have to renounce your citizenship if you want Japan citizenship.

>>153773450
That's because GIMP is fucking terrible and nobody should ever use it

>>153773467
He has it automatically because Japan gives them by blood. He has his US one because the US gives them out more liberally. You have to renounce citizenship if you're a gaijin but he isn't, so didn't, so he has dual citizenship.

Learn what you're talking about before you try to correct your betters dumbshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_nationality_law#Dual_nationality
First bullet, guess how old ShindoL is?

>>153773687
The US isn't more liberal per-se, it just uses jus soli instead of jus sanguinis.

>>153745074
What kind of equipment and software do you usually use for drawing, /a/?

>>153773763
A very old but amazingly sturdy and dependable small wacom tablet. I can't believe it's survived this long with no real care or issues.

>>153773853
Is it a Graphire? My Graphire2 still fucking works, but unusable due to new software etc
Those things survive anything

>>153773763
Intuos medium and flex nibs

>>153773938
Yeah, graphire 4. Just keeps on truckin'.

>>153773256
if you don't put any effort into learning how, of course you won't.

>buying software

>>153773763
Monoprice twa60

Budget tablet but it geta the job do

>>153773763
Wacom Intuos3 A4 and Corel Painter or Photoshop. Tried Krita just a few minutes ago, it's not bad for a free program.

it takes time and dedacation and i dont have any of these

>>153773763
Cintiq 13hd and CSP

i just have no idea on how to start

>>153774790
>>>/ic/
Sticky

I'm sick of being stuck in the "This is fucking terrible" stage for months every time I want to try again.

>>153774875
Post your work and maybe I'll help you

>>153774875
It's okay, if it looks terrible it just means you have a decent enough eye to know you're doing shit, so you have the potential to do good shit with practice eventually.

>>153774875
Just suck it up and keep drawing.

>>153774875
Maybe you just need to set your goals straight. What do you want to draw?

>>153774906
>Post your work and maybe I'll help you
Upload keeps failing so I had to mixtape it
Really, let me know what you think. I'm desperate for whatever help I can get

https://my.mixtape.moe/xthtwk.jpg

>>153763307
Sculptors are really rare these days. For one, nobody will carve you a 6'5" statue of a meme race from a terrible game. I can sculpt but all I'm willing to do is busts, and the last bust I did was of my wife while I was on a lengthy vacation. I also have too much money to care for a commission.

A 6'5" statue, marble or bronze, will cost you a fortune. I'm pretty sure it's not uncommon for a bronze statue to cost $20k.

May as well learn to do it yourself at that rate, it could well enough pay for a few courses and the materials and tools needed.

>>153745074
>tfw no time
If it weren't for money being an issue, I would drop this shitty STEM degree so hard and become an artist.

>>153775201
>was of my wife
Post it.

>>153775320
I have for the history of 4 Chan never posted a personal image, and never will.

>>153758980
Lurk for 2 years before posting.

>>153775201
>A 6'5" statue, marble or bronze, will cost you a fortune. I'm pretty sure it's not uncommon for a bronze statue to cost $20k.
Yes I know, I'm not an idiot. I have the money and am willing to pay. The guy I found is actually charging me $20k each. It's gonna be worth it though when I have 2 fine ass statues in my living room.

>>153775346
>I have for the history of 4 Chan
>4 Chan
So a couple weeks?

>>153775414
Blood elves are not 'fine' anon.

2 statues, even better. Bronze isn't that expensive. Do it yourself, then you can brag about that.
>>153775427
>this new

>>153775414
T A C K Y

Already have, pretty good software

>>153774906
I think I might have been a 1.5 level at my peak on the chart on>>153763594. That's being generous.
Since I haven't done anything in a year, I'm guessing I'm probably back to 0.

>>153775029
Chinese cartoons like the rest of them; but I'd also like to get into romantic art. But I doubt I'll learn any real techniques.

I use CSP for some things and Photoshop for others. Mostly I work in CSP, use filters and rendering tools in Photoshop and layout and graphic design work in Photoshop.

>>153775414
I wish i had money to burn on something as memetastic like WoW sculptures too

>>153745074
No drawing tablet, job, and mediocre drawing ability

>>153775414
>blowing 40k on bronze sculptures of blood elves
So this...is the life...of the ojou-chans...woah...

>>153775583
But you can draw from pc.

>>153775478
>>153775612
>blood elves
I clearly said night elves in my original post.

>>153775653
Same trash. Last I remember a blood elf was just an aryan night elf

>>153775653
Either way forty fucking grand

This seems like as good a place as any to ask. I've got an idea that's been bouncing around in my head for a manga-style comic series, and I'm a fair writer, but my drawing ability is extremely lacking. Is there a good way to link up with artists and the like? I don't even know where to begin looking.

>>153775633
How so?

>>153775633
not the anon, but is drawing on pc a good idea ?

>>153765264
How do I do this

>>153775680
40 grand isn't that much to me, especially considering these will last forever unless I explode a bomb or throw a grenade at them. I had some luck and was smart with my money and 2016 was a good year, I made over 150k just from the few days after Trump got elected so I can splurge on this.

>>153775677
To be fair, they're pretty hot.

>>153775725
Don't comics / manga have different writers and artists a lot? How do they hook up?
Is it just submit a storyboard and have the artist get matched to you?

>>153775725
>Is there a good way to link up with artists and the like?
No, you're staring down a gun with two barrels

1) Can't draw, will try to do it for free, fail, either disappear or start drama about how it was his idea all along, etc.
2) Can draw, will charge you a fee equivalent to two bronze night elf statues. 50% chance they too disappear and take your monies.

Slight hyperbole here but I think you get the point. Unless you yourself are a pro, you won't be getting any pro artists on your side. If they're not pro they're shit, if they're shit you're better off not bothering.

>>153775725
I'm an okay artist and I've always wanted to draw a comic but I don't have the energy to write my own story right now.

Post your idea and a sample of your writing, maybe we can work something out (though I will warn you ahead of time that I don't have infinite free time, but I can set aside several hours per week)

>>153775633
>>153775749
can somebody answer this question ?

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>manga filters

plebs

>tfw no anon to be your art buddy and draw everyday to see improvements, have fun all the while making it

>>153775759
Patience and time to be honest.

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>>153752356
Are you telling me everything I knew was a lie?

I feel fucking cheated

>>153775105
oh my fucking god
/ic/ memes leaking to fucking /a/ can i ever escape

>>153752356
no wonder they can get a page done so fast