End of Evangelion

yes. watch it.

Watch it, then don't bother with the redo movies unless you simply can't get enough.

>>153591534
go watch it, youre doing yourself a disservice by not

>>153591534
Watch it NOW.

>>153591534
Fucking watch it. Neither TV ending nor EoE is skip-able

End of Evangelion is probably the best anime movie ever made (counting only movies related to series).

End of Evangelion is the best part of Evangelion.

>>153591534
Watch it.

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>>153591534
It's the peak of Anno's talent. You must watch it, hell, even people who doesn't like the series must watch it.

http://alexsheremet.com/neon-genesis-evangelion-place-animation/

NGE is not as great as people make it to be.

>>153591534
Yes, it's a great bit of kino, albeit noticably darker in tone than the series (particularly not counting the DC)

First two rebuilds are good, don't watch 3.33 until 4.0 gets a release date

>>153591805
true, it's better.

If you don't watch it I'll find you and slap the shit outta you.

>>153591872
read the essay and debunk it.

Why the fuck do people ask this question? Are you not confused about NGE's ending? You don't want to see a movie called "End of Evangelion" that you hope with tie everything up? That was my first thought after finishing NGE, was that I HAD to watch EoE as soon as possible.

>>153591900
It's long, so I'm not gonna read it all, mull it over and respond it's points for this thread. But I enjoy reading long form stuff about Eva so I'm certainly gonna check it out and give it a fair read. If I ever see it reposted I might give my opinion on it.

>>153592014
The TV ending (or eva in general for that matter) is not as confusing as people make it out to be. It just leaves unfinished plot threads. But it can be a satisfying enough ending if you can get past that. But certainly watching EoE is obligatory.

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Avoid Rebuild, they made everyone a case of the gay and certain others just exist as fan service.

Don't go expecting a dark lovecraftian story with biblical themes and gritty characters, like in NGE and End of Evangelion.

>>153591824
>>>/tv/

>>153592346
That board is for big guys though.

>>153591805
This dude is pretentious as fuck, holy shit.

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>>153591805
>In the spirit of this essay’s central posit — or one of them, anyway — I’ve started out with 3 divergent, even duplicitous epigraphs

can this dude get his head out of his ass? If he's going to use big boy words, at least spell out the numerals first

in the first few paragraphs, he calls all the characters two-dimensional, the humour idiotic and the christian symbolism flaccid.

why does this fella even watch entertainment media? and what's the difference between plot and narrative driven fiction?

it's too much to comment on, jeez

>>153591805
This is one of those cases of someone going "I disliked this show, so now I will try to prove it in a way that seems credible" It's pretty blatantly obvious that there is an extremely shallow agenda hidden with complicated words. Which is hilarious, considering that was his own criticism. I mean one of his genuine arguments was that the characters are immature. So a real criticism, according to this guy, is that the characters act realistically to their age? Is he even trying? I appreciate at least that he didn't parrot the usual "The symbols were pointless!!!" or "Shinji is too whiny!!!" but other than that nothing really of substance. He repeats his one argument 20 times with different vocabulary to make it seem he has more to say.

>>153592717
Nah, you didnt even read everything of it. He made a lot of constructive points. If you watch Bergman's movie Persona it makes even more sense. Its not like he is saying NGE is shit, but its definitely overrated.

>>153591805
Moving past the extreme pretention he views the series in entirely the wrong light, as if a 26 episode anime is supposed to have the same structure as a 90 minute arthouse film

It's like saying the characters in the sproanos are overexplained because it's longer than goodfellas

>>153592671
google the difference, is not that hard. This are basic things.

>>153592717
complicated words? where? Are you 15 years old or what or is english not your first language? I didnt find any words he used to be complicated.

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>>153592014
I was a bit confused about what the 'Human Instrumentality Project' thing actually was, but I'm kind of worried that EOE could ruin my concepts of how it ended...?

>>153592984
Why are you still here?
Why aren't you watching EoE yet?

You can still have concepts regardless.
Are you actually retarded?

>>153592901
Do you know what eschatological means without googling it? He used that one 4 times.

>>153592858
Go shave your neckbeard if you're not willing to explain it yourself.

I did search for it, with zero results. I know the difference between story and plot, that's not what he wrote.

EoE is the reason you watch Eva.

>>153592984
You should be watching EoE already, not posting in this thread. Come back when you're done, or at least give us a running commentary if you're gonna be posting.

>>153592901
>>In a way, then, Evangelion’s pretentiousness is a boon to the art-form, for if there’s been one thing missing from animation, it is not so much its unwillingness to experiment, but to experiment self-consciously.

Not complicated words, just unnecessary ones.
I wouldn't hope that he writes at a highschool level, but he can seriously drop the "I'm trying to impress my college professor" sentence structure.

>>153593074
Actually Legend of Heroes TitS was why I watched Eva, because for some reason I thought the MC in that game was Asuka and I didn't want to play the game. This was before TitS had an anime. I was retarded.

>>153592236

god, that suit hnnngggggg

>>153592984
25+26 outside of the very end are generally accepted to occur during the events of EoE, and it's pretty obvious where

Go watch the movie and provide running commentary like that other anon said

>>153591534
absolutely watch EoE it's a masterpiece

>>153591805
sorry the show is 2deep4u pleb

>>153593100
First you said complicated now you said unnecessary. Pls decide what you want. Dont be like a girl.

So what if he writes nicely and looks like he wants to impress his college professor? Still better than writing like some hilly billy farm boy.

Watch it right now. Make sure to adhere to the rite of passage after you finish by making another thread asking what the fuck you just watched. Fucking lucky, I wish I could watch EoE for the first time again.

>>153593367
not expecting any less from NGE fans.

>>153593430
Dont take this comments too seriously. You know what is funny, most people who like NGE are actually very young. Edgy teens. Someday they will grow up too.

>>153593384
>So what if he writes nicely and looks like he wants to impress his college professor? Still better than writing like some hilly billy farm boy.

Not that anon, but I agree with you. Ironically, the line that anon quoted is actually good reasoning for the pretentiousness of the writing. Of course, blog write-ups aren't in dire need of self-consciousness, but it doesn't hurt, it could be worse.

>>153591534
It's a must see.

It's literally my favourite film of all time (out of both animated and live action films).

A serious question. Who is your favorite NGE girl and WHY? And dont reply something like "she is the cutest". I want some quality reply.

Watch it now, but watch Sephirotic's version, other releases have the old DVD's subs which have lots of translation errors

>>153591534
Did you happen to watch the episode preview at the end of episode 24?

Because if you did, you'll notice it doesn't show the events from 25 and 26. Instead it shows very simplistic animations from the End of Evangelion.

>>153593484
>Someday they will grow up too.
t. 17 year old who thinks they're smarter than everyone else

>>153592717
Agree, I'd rather someone just say "I thought it was kinda dumb, I don't like all the anime tropes and all the sex stuff was too much". That actually sounds like a much more honest reason.

>>153593666
Let's not start this.

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>>153593666
Asuka has the most complex and well developed character background, but of course she would be a shitty waifu. Misato is second best, and best waifu material if you don't mind her being used goods, otherwise go for Maya, the sweetest girl of all.

>>153593666
dat trip - you must really be the devil to ask that.

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I know I'm in the minority when I say this, but I thought EoE was mediocre.

Ep25/26 wasn't perfect, but I preferred them as an ending over EoE.

>>153592236
Call me crazy but I'd rather have the rebuilds vs not since we got a lot of the stuff from the original show but with modern animation and more specatcular fights.

I don't like one more than the other, I just love both. Too bad there is no blu ray version of the original outside of Japan. I don't like pirating stuff but I'm not about to pay some random $150 for fucking DVD's of a show when none of it will even go to Gainax or Anno at all.

Watch it, just make sure you got some comfort food with you.

>>153593666
Asuka is favorite since I can really relate to her, it's that simple.

>>153593988
I watched the Rebuild with low expectations, I was pretty sure it would never come close to the original and thanks to that I was able to enjoy it for the entertainment and animation too. My only problem with the rebuild was that 3.33 was awful, story-wise, and there are lots of people defending it.

Asuka has way to fit and firm ass for a 14 year old teen girl.... Doing her is not a sin.

>>153594043
Elaborate how do you relate to her. You like being choked and you like to go around and call people "ante baka" and be a tsundere about it?

>>153594048
Go to south america. it's legal to fuck a 14yo in most countries there.

God, what the fuck is this thread. Some teen posted a liberal arts dropout article, others argue about pretentiousness, as usual a newfag who've just watched the series asking stupid unnecessary questions. Why does Eva attract so many shitty people?

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>>153594048
She has the ass of a boy

>>153594047
What made 3.33 so awful to you? I'm not here to defend it I'm just curious.

>>153594111
not for you.

>>153594131
Because it's baby's first serious good anime.

>>153591805
>using another's fag review as an argument proof
Neck yourself

>>153594154
You clearly didnt see her tight suit in the series or movie or the fanart.

This example is pretty shitty. Asuka has a nice tight ass.

>>153594166
skipped half of NGE's story as well as 15 years of further events and was instead a glorified episode 24 padded from 20 minutes up to 90 with gay pianos, floating whales and kitty evas.

>>153593430
how about you argue with some criticism of your own :^)

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>>153594193
Nah, that was Akira for me my dude

>>153594217
what do you mean another's? its me.

>>153591534
oh my god. no time for loss

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>>153594154
>shit rebuild artwork.
Nigga, please.

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>>153594249
ironically most of arguments, be it positive or negative are the same reused circlejerk, so if someone is using someone's others review or opinion is not that big of a deal. Even the people who praise NGE use the same shit and buzzwords and all other people who praise it. So, literally all people are a bunch of sheeps and pretentious edgy teens.

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>>153593666
When I was in high school, Rei was my favorite. Looking back, it was probably some wish-fulfillment thing. She's quiet, submissive, and cute, so perfect "waifu-material."

Years later, however, I find Asuka to be a more relatable and fun character to watch. I think her character design, in general, and especially color-wise, is more interesting, too. Pic related sold me on the design. Definitely not "waifu-material", though.

All in all though, I'll still identify as a Reifag till I die.

>>153594093
No, I think it's pretty obvious. I also hide my inner pain of misunderstanding and dishonesty under a "great guy" facade and don't try to reach out to people, only make myself necessary to them to stroke my self-worth. I also always pushed away girls, even when they showed interest, even made my childhood friend cry with my violent behavior, only because my friends saw it as "uncool" for a 17-year old boy to hang out with a 14-year old girl. Well, at least I was behaving like that.

>>153594269
>literally shilling his own review on /a/ and being a confirmed attention whore
You just made it worse, hurry up

>>153594269
My God, kill yourself my dude, you're embarrasing yourself

>>153594269
I enjoyed your article, but fuck man, you are still a retarded faggot for posting this all here.

>>153594390
Everyone can be anyone here. You are a sheep. Im a sheep. You are a child or a manchild. Cartoons for kids and teens. Choose now. Was a nice talk, but im going to sleep.

>>153594357
I just thought it had good animation and photography/camera work, as well as an engaging story and memorable characters. The only reason I watched it was because that cover photo for EoE piqued my interest.

I wasn't even that engaged the first couple episodes but then I got hooked. I don't watch a lot of shows and feel as engaged as I did with this one. Are there any others like it?

>>153594229
Her ass was flat and gross in both of them

>fanart
kek, shitty fanart doesn't matter

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>>153594166
The best part about Eva is the deep character development from episodes 20~26. 3.33 skips exactly that and completely ruins the Oedipan duality of Rei vs Kaworu.

Not to mention: Timeskip, shitty cgi, cheesy "hard matured" characters, retarded "Eva no jibaku" unaged Asuka and Makinami, nonsensical flying ships, exagerated pointless symbolism, "hey Shinji, it's not really your fault that the world almost went to shit but we still have hatred towards you even after 14 years for no good reasons beside giving an artificial premisse for your self guilty and attempt of redemption!".

>is it worth watching an acclaimed film
Yes

>>153594357
could you elaborate on what these arguments are or are you just making shit up as you go along?

>>153594252
Akira was such a mainstream movie that most people watched without even realizing it was a Japanese animation. Remember I also said GOOD.

>>153594455
Not an argument.

>>153594241
I actually found the gay pianos part very beautiful, the only part I liked

Probably because I'm a music fag

>>153594540
How so? You are literally a CHILD or a MANCHILD. Ofc its not an arguments, its a fact. You are watching CARTOONS for KIDS and TEENS. Why should this be an argument? It never was. Its just stating the obvious.

>>153594480
>>153594241

The stuff with Shinji being branded as a sinner and practically a criminal was kinda good to me though. I agree a lot of shit didn't make sense. I really don't understand why they decided to remove unit 01 from the picture since that's essentially THE Evangelion among Evangelions being Lilith's offpsring as well as the main protag's unit.

Maybe 3.0+1.0 will make it worthwhile, but who even fucking knows when that'll be out.

I agree that some more character development or back story would be nice. I can't even tell if it's supposed to be what happens after the original EoE or if it's supposed to be treated as a completely different thing. Like, do we just fill in the blanks on third impact and assume that what happened is pretty much identical to EoE or what?

>>153594606
Eva is not a show for kids

>>153594521
>Akira
>bad

ill fuckin rek ya m8 swear on me mam

>>153594606
Not an argument. Weren't you going to sleep you big baby?

>>153593384
Not him, but I do see his point after reading the post myself. Leaving aside your random angst towards girls, the guy writes like a college freshman with a thesaurus and it reeks of overcompensation. I could write a whole essay breaking down different parts of his retarded blogpost, but I think the chief irony is that he criticizes EVA for being overly complex for no reason, when that is exactly how he writes as well. Taking 20 minutes to make a point that could be told in a single sentence.

Its funny actually. Every single time some pseudointellectual steps up to try and rip on EVA for not being deep enough for them, as if its some sort of profound discovery to say its philosophical message isnt actually that complex. And they're right, EVA isnt some deep philosophical treatise, its actually a fairly simple idea. The irony is that despite this, it still ends up being 2deep4them because they missed the point.

The guy is a hack writer who got his english degree from a City university in New York and whose lifes work amounted to an ebook on Woody Allen, half of which was plagirized dialouge from an internet forum.

SHOCKER, a Woody Allen fanboy with a degree in English doesnt think anime lives up to his intellectual prowess!! How could cartoons ever be considered to be great when Woody Allen movies exist?? Classic /tv/ or /lit/ faggot who is so desperate to be taken seriously, he gets triggered when people discuss anime as an actual artform.

>OMG U THINK EVA WAS GOOD?!? DUUUR HAVE U SEEN ANNIE HALL??? THATS TRUE ART

Ok dude, whatever you say. EVA is baby shit and Woody Allen films are true art. I wish him luck in his writing career, maybe he will actually create something one day instead of just consuming art and tacking on his opinion.

>>153594543
Like everything else is was beautiful looking and had great music, but story-wise it was so hollow. Their bath and bedroom talk in NGE was so much better, probably because Anno has gone on record he had such conversations so they were coming from an honest place, the magic piano was ridiculous, pretty but ridiculous

>>153594606
You were shilling your shit, got called out and started projecting about people being manchildren. Not an argument.

>>153594642
Yes it is, actually.

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>>153594653
Didn't say it was bad, either, the animation soundtrack and direction are exceptional, but the story is pretty generic 80's cyberpunk shit.

>>153594866
>guy masturbates on a girl's comatose body
>discusses themes of depression
>the show is for kids
xD lmao

>>153594628
>can't even tell if it's supposed to be what happens after the original EoE or if it's supposed to be treated as a completely different thing.
that's one of it's problems, it doesn't have it's own self sustaining narrative. It needs to rely on what you know about NGE to stand otherwise it falls apart, but at the same time nothing about NGE is guaranteed to be applicable for Rebuild. Visually and Musicaclly is great, I'll never deny those things about rebuild, but those are the things that are a given consideing their greatly expanded budget. but the thing that made eva priceless (characters & story) is nowhere to be found.

>>153594770
>it still ends up being 2deep4them because they missed the point

What point are they missing?
I agree with everything else in your post, but I'm confused by this part.

>>153594642
I didnt say its for kids. I said child or manchild. So if you are a 10-15 year old watching anime than thats fine, you are the target audience and literally still a child, but if you are like 25 years old and still watching cartoons then you are a manchild. Or 30+ years. Doesnt matter.

>>153594896
It's true.

Evangelion has attractions at Disney, and advertisements all over Japan.

It's their equivalent of Harry Potter or Star Wars, kids, teens, adults, everyone watches it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh0qbJAQhgk

>>153594770
I agree. Ironically most people that complains about eva being "tryhard complex", always lack any basic reading on psychoanalysis or Freud to actually get all the truly deep and interest references which makes the characters so great and realistic. Truly a pretentious shallow freshman.

This thread needs some waifuwar and toiletposting, it's full of pretentious teens and freshmen.

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>>153594950

>>153594950
10 year olds should not be watching Eva

>>153594936
Not him, but the Psychoanalysis references.
Trust me, I'm a psychologist and the Freudian and Klein shit in Eva is pretty good, far from entry level. Anno really studied a lot of shit before he wrote Eva.The character construction and traumas are excellent and very convincing.

Too bad he also put some Jung concepts in it too, I don't really like Jung.

>>153594962

>>153594771
I think the montage during the piano song was a good portrayal of their relationship though.

And the talk where they're viewing the stars, and Shinji talks about how he feels was one of the most rawest points in Rebuild yet.

Sure, the rest of the movie was pretty bad, and there were many ridiculous moments so not Eva-like that it kind of sours those few scenes, but I think by themselves they were pretty good.

Maybe developing Kaworu and Shinji's relationship was the only thing the staff cared about when making 3.0, because it's the only thing that looks like it has any effort put into it.

>>153594312
>all these ass talk
Asuka/Rei gave me as a kid that slim hip fetish

>>153594770
Please break down his "retarded" post then, because your post is way more retarded now and doesnt bring anything to the table.

>>153594956
To be fair, Anno at some point has gone on record saying children should be told traumatic stories as early as possible.

>>153594936
Not him but; the premise of the show manages to elude them even though they criticize it for being shallow

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>>153595018
You're an idiot.

Many 10 years olds in Japan have and are watching Eva. Even younger than that.

It has fucking rides at Disney, for fuck's sake.

>>153595059
I love slim girls, but I like well defines feminine hips and some well shaped butt. Don't need to be excessive curvy. Something like... eh. Remy Lacroix.

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>>153591534
Why are blatant rec threads allowed on /a/ now?

>all the 2deep4u talks
I watched Eva with my 12-year old sister and she got its message on the first run. It's pretty easy to get, people overanalyze it.
>inb4 there are other things too
There may be but they aren't important, what's important is a connection with Anno and understanding of his point

>>153595042
TRUST ME ANON, TRUST A RANDOM DUDE ON 4CHAN. lmao, gtfo kid. Eveeryone can be anyone here.

TRUST ME IM A GOD.

>>153594868
No worries I was only messing, people are allowed to have their opinions.

I think the manga did a better job of making sense of the story, but then what could you expect when the movie was made before the books were even done?

>>153594166
three words: gay piano duets

>>153595126
>she got its message on the first run. It's pretty easy to get, people overanalyze it.
Fucking this.
Evangelion is not complicated or hard to get.

>>153595078
Sorry, I thought the post was well thought out and clearly written

>>153594642
What? Eva is for kids, like any other cartoons. Dont think you are something special. You are still watching cartoons targeted for kids and teens and filthy manchild otakus.

>>153595143
Holy shit, what an gigantic teenager faggot.

Control your fucking hormones, kid, you will find many people that disagree with you in life, learn to control yourself and argue civilized with them next time.

>>153595248
.4chan
.civilized
.argue - people disagree on anon board hiding behind no username
.oh the sweet irony

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>>153593876
>>153594358
>>153594043
Asuka has the best character, but in the real world she would be a terrible girlfriend. She can't cook and she's not self sufficient at all.

Who would be crazy enough to date her?

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OP here. What the fuck was that first scene?

>>153595714
There are worse girls in this world that still have boyfriends, at least she express affection on her own way and isn't a gold digger

>>153595745
exactly what you think

>>153595848
What is that way? How would she react to simple things like touching, holding and kissing? There is reason to be believe that Shinji reacted in a different way, she would have been freaked out by it.

Does she even have the capacity for love? Being an Eva pilot is all she knows.

She just needs to learn, and lots of love.

>Just finished watching
This is going on my filter list.

>>153595714
>>153596034

>>153596010
Your point was that who was crazy enough to date her, and given my experience, there is people crazy enough to try it, if it works is another deal

>>153596010
Why do you even care?

She's a fictional character.

>>153596010
Every girl has the capacity to love. She probably just prefers mature men because those guys tend to be more red pilled and thus more likely to be the guy that can 'handle' her.

>>153596056
>using filters
Hello plebbit

>>153596034
>>153596076
What makes you think she is willing to learn, Asuka is a terrible listener.

Whether being a Reifag or an Asukafag, it just comes down to how much work and emotional baggage are you willing to deal with.

If you're willing to deal and put in a fuckton of work and effort, you'll go with Asuka.
If you're not, then Rei. However, you'll probably find the relationship not as fulfilling or rewarding as the would-be Asukafag.

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>>153596295
I just know, bruh. She wants to be the best, so i'd challenge her in some friendly competition. If i win, she might want to get better for next time.

>>153596222
There is reason to believe she didn't truly love Kaji, but saw him as a means to be adult. Double if she knew the truth about his profession.

It will take Asuka alot of work to become a girl you take home to your parents for a nice meal.

>>153591534
>should I watch EoE
>should I watch Death and Rebirth

It's been 20 years, how are people even still asking these questions?

>>153596522
New/a/nons, i know it's bothersome, but we have to show them the way, otherwise we get people who unironically use "normie"

>>153596215
because people waifu her for some reason.

just imagine her being a house wife, hell would freeze over that day.

>>153596185
What makes you think she would give you that opportunity? Like I said before, she doesn't know how to give affection.

>>153596763
And waifufags are retarded.

If you actually give a shit about stuff like this you're pathetic.

>>153595078
I wouldnt even know where to start considering how much he wrote. Ill just say that he is retarded for demanding that everyone view art through his retard "cinephile" outlook. He spends so much time discussing what otaku think, what critics think, what media thinks, only to say that its all irrelevant and ONLY WHATS ON CAMERA MATTERS.

Thats where Im just like, ok so whats the point of his post? To whine about how people arent consuming art in the right way? To show how he consumes art the right way?
To me, the motive behind his post is completely transparent. Hes a "cinephile" who was told that NGE is a masterpiece. Anime is still a young medium compared to film so its impossible that it could have produced something on Woody Allens level. He proceeds to watch it specifically so he can point out how its fine, but could never live up to true film.

Like dude, I get it, you took a film class or two. So what if evageeks adds a bunch of over the top interpretations of minor cosemetic decisions? Everyone knows that fanboys overhype the shit they love. Nobody said NGE was on par with the greatest of all cinema, thats just his own preconciveed notion of the public opinion that he was hell bent on disproving. He even admits its a fine show, he just wants to point out how the cinematography and narrative dont live up to his personal favorite films of all time.

He isnt wrong. What makes the post retarded is that he spent 7k words complaining that people arent smart enough to give a proper critique. Wow, no shit, people who say its the best thing ever, and people who say its the worst thing ever are both wrong!
Its like Hes arguing against some strawman evageek theory claiming that NGE is the most profound philosophical work of a generation or something. Congrats, you proved evageeks is full of idiots with fan theories.

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>>153596763
Battering the character out of Asuka to force her into being a house wife is the ultimate goal

>>153596873
I guess I should add that since its his personal blog, he can shitpost about whatever he wants for whatever length he wants. I just think his conclusion isnt as nuanced as he thinks. I will say his thoughts are good discussion fodder though.

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>>153593876
Ahem...

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Why was he so suicidal?

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>>153595714
That's why you also get another waifu that can do those things.

>>153595912
He's right, you know.

>>153595714
I wish I could date Asuka.

>>153595108
If you discount EoE I don't even see how it's that bad, the traditional versions of most Disney fairy tails are just as bad if not worse

But yeah don't show EoE to a 10 year old

>>153596873
Good post. At least someone here with some brain that doesnt just in a fanboyish way defends NGE or his critique.

I always thought NGE is a good show, but never a masterpiece like people claim it to be. Compared to movie medium, ofcourse anime is the inferior version, but thats kinda expected and an obvious things.

>>153597280
Japanese kids have seen way "worse" than EoE.
Even younger than that.

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>>153596991
If only there was an alpha male like Geralt of Rivia in Evangelion, then she could learn a thing or two.

He'd probably has enough with Yen, though. She's already too much like Asuka, but with magic powers and forever 25 years young at 100 years old.

>>153597146
His entire character is that his fondness for humanity means he wanted to die so they can live on. He talks about how his ultimate goal is to become the dominant life on Earth but believes humans deserve it more

Episode 24 was so fucking good holy shit

>>153591805
The thing is, even this article says it's one of the best anime out there. Just that anime aren't that good on the world stage when it comes to art expression.

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>>153597248
I wish I could date Auska. And Rei. And Misato. And Ritsuko, Maya, and Horaki. I also wish that I could marry them all and move out on a self-sustainable off-grid compound deep in rural middle America, where we can build a fallout shelter, stock up on various supplies (including firearms and ammunition), and breed an entire platoon worth of children.

>>153595183
Funny thing is, it's literally the opposite. One of Evangelion's greatest flaws is actually that it repeats it's points so often and blatantly.

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>>153597440
I think the angels deserved it more

>>153597531
And people are still confused on things that were told to them a million times. The Anime fanbase is confirmed retarded.

>>153597570
at least it was lawfully theirs.

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>>153597610
Which is why I think they deserved it more.
They also didn't try to start wars and murder their own kind.
And they're way cuter.

Angels > Lilin

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S-she'l be o-okay r-right guys? Guys?

>>153597780
She dead.

>>153597454
I never said otherwise. I said NGE is good, but not that great like people are making it out to be.
The dude in the article even says that NGE is still a solid series and one of the better anime.

>>153597780
>Dropped from the original series almost entirely once Suzuhara got fucked
>Not mentioned once in End of Eva
>Unceremoniously killed off in 3.33

I always hated that shit

>>153597890
Unless you're talking about the ending where everyone gets tanged, there's no evidence she died at all.

>>153597930
>>Dropped from the original series almost entirely once Suzuhara got fucked
she was still around for when Asuka fell apart, making it to ep 23. is not bad for a minor character.

>>153595242
>like any other cartoons
I don't know why people think this. There are cartoons made explicitly for adults and people still say this stuff

>>153591534
watch it all why not, it's always fun to watch a series get progressively worse over time.

Give in to your natural instincts and gouge your eyes out with a clothes hanger and watch all the stupid movies and shit that came afterwards

>>153591805
this guy is a horrible fucking writer. florid, adjective-laden empricism straight out of the 1970s, yuck. hire an editor my man.

>>153596410
You would be willing to let yourself be a guinea pig for Asuka? Most would feel they are lowering themselves in such a competition.

>>153599031
Can't see how. Competition is a natural thing, you don't engage if you know you're going to lose, coming up with escuses like that just shows lack of confidence.

>>153599421
>you don't engage if you know you're going to lose

Exactly, and with a girl as mentally damaged as Asuka it will only end in one way. Besides when you get older you want a woman that can cook and raise kids.

Asuka can do neither.

>>153599925
She is proud enough to not decline the first one. After several losses she will become neet, broken minded and die.

>>153600041
If anything she will be like Misato, go into relationships for the sex but never quite settle down to find a husband who can take care of her.

They show this in the live action segment in End, she needs alot of fixing to become something you bring home to your folks.

>>153591534
If you felt episode 26 was inconclusive

OH boy

>>153600399
Good thing Shinji doesn't have any :^)

>>153600399
Just needs some atention and pure love.

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>>153600485
Are you implying that Asuka and him would get together? I doubt Shinji would dare to try to tame that red devil, in Touji's words.

>>153600710
Hey don't forget they did manage to reverse the roles in EoE for like a second.

She's also symbolizes him getting away from his mother/maternal figures

>>153600802
Like all things in Shinji and Asuka's relationship, things are left cryptic and ambiguous.

>>153601376
That's just Eva in general

>>153601445
Did Anno make NGE's story "show, but don't tell the viewer" on purpose? I wonder why this was missing in rebuild.

>>153601534
I know Anno was a tired/depressed fuck making NGE

I think he just wanted to make you think

>>153601534
>I wonder why this was missing in rebuild.
The rebuilds are just anno fanservice.

>>153601534
>>153601610
Forgot to mention, now that he's made it big and can shit on content to sell as long as there's an Evangelion logo somewhere he doesn't feel like trying.

>>153591534
Watch it, but don't believe anyone who tells you Asuka and Shinji are Adam or Eve or that EOE is their love story. They're Evageeks trash.

>>153601775
EoE is a love story about Shinji loving himself__________

>>153595745
Hormones. Shinji is meant to represent viewer otaku who fap to lifeless things. Also representative of how fucked up he got after Kaworu's death

>>153601884
that was the TV ending. EoE was about Shinji learning to love others.

>>153601610
>>153601676
>>153601738
It sounds like NGE was ligthning in a bottle, and since he made so much money he doesn't need to make another masterpiece that can still be talked about for 20 years.

Rebuild right now purely rides on the coat tails of nostalgia with some vague references to NGE thrown in. None of the story telling style and none of the gritty/dark feeling of the original.

>>153597146
He was crippingly, pathologically lonely, an emotionally abused tool who was told his only purpose was to initatiate Third Impact

>>153601948
The worst part is he's said he's trying to destroy Eva (or something like that) with something that makes no sense for someone watching this exclusively, which essentially boils down to I want to make a bad product to annoy people.

>>153601948
The infuriating thing is that he made great things before and after Eva, so he does have a capacity to do it. He just doesn't see Eva as anything more than a cashcow. I think he's said as much, Rebuild is his way to fund other stuff. Not that he fund much stuff other than semi-random exhibitions.

>yfw anno just stops trying completely and 4.0 is an adoption of ReTake

>>153602043
Can I have a source on that? Just wondering.

>>153602048
Wow, I'm surprised Japanese aren't pissed considering how much of a masterpiece NGE was, you'd think desiring to make something bad just to shit on your face base seems rather low.

I know if CD Projekt RED did this with The Witcher, the Polish fans would be running with pitchforks and Andrej Sapkowski would be suing them to kingdom come.

>>153602183
Evageeks please leave

>>153602183
>Making something decent

Good one m8. They would have Shinji lunge and kill Kaworu.

>>153602190
I've seen it on wiki but I found a r eddit post talking about it while I was looking

https://www.reddit.com/r/evangelion/comments/1ygz9b/does_anno_really_intend_to_destroy_eva/cfkg68b/

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>>153602010
I want to make Kaworu happy

>>153591805
why the fuck did i waste my time reading this. the fact that he thinks 2001 a space odyssey is the height of film and wrote a book about fucking woody allen just shows how middlebrow he is. not to mention his atrocious belabored writing style.

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>>153602183
>tfw best girl has best doujin

>>153603159
he's atrocious but 2001 is a great movie.

>>153603361
RE-TAKE is complete shit and bastardizes all of canon and its characters. Those are not the same characters from Evangelion

>>153603361
>horrible art
>horrible plot
>horrible characters
>plagiarizing panels from Sadamoto's Manga
Yeah, no. It only proves Asukafags are retarded and cancer.

>>153603438
>A shiny, vacuous design of soulless scientism, Kubrick fails at disproving faith with film's ultimate display in 'delusion of grandeur.' Yes, thanks to technological globalism, we are now self-appointed Übermenschen having prescribed to this hallucinogenic illusion of solipsistic MTV compost in prostitution of generic classical music.

>>153603556
So is Rebuild. ;^)

>>153603587
Its a doujin you nigger, name better Eva doujins that have good story and art.

>>153603661
I put this in Google translate but it didn't work

>>153603699
The doujin where Shinji shoves a glue bottle up his ass

>>153603661
ching chong to you too

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>>153603699
>name better Eva doujins that have good story and art.
The ones Sadamoto made.

>>153603730
This too.

EoE is just animation. Not more, not less.

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>>153602183
That's what he's been doing, except he replaces Asuka with his husbando Kaworu

>>153603730
>kaworufag

Yeah, no thanks.

>>153603798
So this is what Anno meant by "destruction of Eva" with Rebuild, really makes u think.

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>>153603824
Still better than Re-take famalam

>>153603699
the one were loli rei bullies kaworu.

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>>153603881
Gloomy homo.

>>153603699
I remember a doujin where Gendo and Fuyutsuki were secretly lovers. It was very good

>>153603937
better art and more engageing story.

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>>153603870
>shits on retake for having different characterization and story
>sadomoto manga has different characterization and less dark story

Really fires up them neurons...

>>153604008
Yeah, Kaworu getting raped by an old man engaged my dick way more than Retake.

>>153604077
>>153604008
samefag

>>153604101
>samefag
oh, I know you. I won't waste my time arguing with you anymore.

>>153604053
Not the same thing. Sadamoto's manga jusr has his own interpretation of his characters which are also fine, while RE-TAKE has the same characters from canon but completely twists their personalities so they are not recognizable anymore

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>>153604161
This

>>153604161
Its stated in the wiki it uses a mixture of characterization from the manga and the anime.

>>153604187
And it failed. What version of Gendo congragulates his son at his wedding?

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>>153604187
Which is fucking retarded because it's out of character in regards to both

It was also cringeworthy as fuck. That doujinka couldn't have been older than 14 when they made that.

>>153604229
Well in rebuild 2.22 Gendo does try to have a relationship with Shinji.

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>>153604264
There is also games with Mana Kirishima, Asuka is actually VERY out of character where she acts yandere around Shinji. Need I remind you that Asuka in Rebuild has a crush on Shinji, she makes him dinner.

>asshurt sadamotofags
>mfw

>>153604272
Wasn't he just trying to get him closer to Rei for his master plan?

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>>153604349
And newsflash, those games are out of character and not canon either.

>Rebuild
Not Soryu. Anno even stated she's a different character.

Retakefags get rekt. No one likes your shitty doujinshi.

>>153604349
Well, no one really praises Rebuild and the manga, but they worship the fuck out of Re-Take.
Just proves how delusional and hypocritical Asukafags are

>>153604354
Rebuild 3.333c memes that killed literally all plot threads set up from 2.222

>>153604272
and it's one of the reasons why Rebuild gets accuse of being Re-take tier fanfiction. 'Storywise Re-take is nearly as good ad Rebuild' is that the argument you want to make? Because that is fine, but it's not because Re-take is that good but because Rebuild is that bad.

>>153604354
No, causing third impact... WITH NO SURVIVORS!

>>153604441
Yeah, notice how only Asukafags like Retake.

If it was truly a good doujinshi everyone would like it.

>>153604489
Of course Kaworufags like yourself wouldn't like it, I'm surprised you would even like End of Evangelion considering he only has 2 lines in the movie.

>>153604597
I'm not a Kaworufag, I like NGE and EoE.

Unlike Asukashippers, I don't need shitty poorly drawn doujins to make me feel better.

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>>153604627
You just posted sadomoto manga with kaworu in it, stop trying to deny your bias.

>>153604677
That wasn't me you literal retard

>>153604720
Everyone who disagrees with him is a single person anon. Don't you know that?

>>153603824
Is the glue stick doujin really so acclaimed people know it has Kaworu in it?? I had no idea!

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>>153604827
Anons are embarrassed about giving into curiosity and reading it.

>>153604720
Alright then I'll bite, /pol/ and /a/ cripplechan actually do like re-take.

Its funny how different each board is on what they think of Eva.

>>153604901
>boards are one person
I'm getting second-hand embarrassment from reading your posts.

>>153604931
thats_the_joke

>>153604901
Wasn't Re-Take made by a studio or something? Why would a studio make it? That's weird

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>>153604597
I'm a Kaworufag, but I like every character so of course I would like End of Evangelion.

Asuka is my second favorite, because I relate to her very much. Our trauma and consequential personalities are extremely similar.
I was hoping she would get more focus in Rebuild, but they changed her and many of her scenes from NGE that flesh out her character were not in 2.0/3.0.

I don't like when she's turned into shallow waifubait like in these doujins, but I realize it's inevitable because she has a large otaku virgin fanbase.
But it makes me sad because it seems these people don't appreciate her character from NGE. They would rather talk about shipping.

sage for metashit

>>153604991
No, that's just the name of the mangaka's circle.
They made their own manga of OCs a few years later, but it got quickly canceled because it was considered shit.

>>153605028
>Sells OCs in the form of Evangelion fanfic because it wouldn't sell otherwise
I see what they did there

>>153605084
Was Kaji even once mentioned or did he ever even appear in Retake?

Or did the manga guy just pretend he didn't exist so Asuka could be shipped with the self-insert Japanese male disguised as Shinji?

>>153605084
Khara is doing the same thing. 3.33 is such a different setting that it could have been a new franchise altogether.

>>153604992
Our trauma and consequential personalities are extremely similar

histrionic personality and bipolar disorder? yikes

>I was hoping she would get more focus in Rebuild

same desu

>>153605139
Kaji is mentioned in it, actually. He actually gives him advice about Asuka and Shinji saves him from being killed by SEELE operatives. Kaji later marries Misato, hunts down SEELE remnants and ships Asuka back to Germany.

>>153605139
I do not remember. I repressed those memories of reading it

>>153605175
True

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>2017
>Eva thread
>300 posts

>>153605254
Anno was a mistake

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It was really comical what Anno did with Ayanami Q in 3.33

I burst out in laughter when she says "what does it mean to like?" I feel bad for reifags

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>>153605209
>histrionic personality and bipolar disorder?
It's extremely common for girls to develop who have lost parents at a young age.
Yikes is right.

But I have yet to find another Anime character like Asuka that I can relate to/see myself in so well.

>>153605254
>50 IPs

>>153605290
Rei Q ain't that bad

>>153605342
Don't let the Reifags hear you say that

I agree though

>>153591534
In a sense they're complimentary, although the thematic points and character resolutions are more overt in the last two episodes of the series than exclusive to it. EoE reaches a similar thematic conclusion; it just does so in a way that's more plot-centric and less obviously celebratory (though still optimistic).

What stuck with me about Evangelion more than anything is its underlying sweetness and sincerity.

>>153605374
We know he's retarded already.

NGE is about learning to love yourself

EoE is about learning to accept the shittiness of reality so you can experience the few and rare good moments it brings

>>153605291
Its kind of amazing, Anno was proud to say that NGE was a feminist anime but yet does a 360 in rebuild's characters.

The master must be weary after all these years, he's.. had a hard life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zxM_2h8sgw

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>>153605526
Yep, I loved NGE because it featured female characters who didn't just revolve around the MC's dick and validation. They had realistic struggles beyond that.

And now Anno's made them cookie-cutter equivalents of all those dumb broads from your typical harem Anime.

I hope he's doing it ironically and just for money, I really really hope he doesn't think these are actually good movies.
But then again so many Japanese are throwing their money at him and buying the Blu-rays, maybe he's convinced they are.

>>153595042
>doesn't like Jung
Why?

>>153605395
These threads are a lot more comfy when he isn't around.
Much more discussion happens too.

>>153605739
Who's he? That Reifag with the huge persecution complex?

>>153605598
Like others said in this thread, he just wants to milk the IP into making it as lucrative as something like Gundam.

A more peaceful death would have been to leave it End Of Evangelion as the last animated Eva work.

>>153605789
Yes.

>>153605789
>>153605739
I mentioned Rei Q to see if he'd come into the thread.

>>153605789
I was talking about the Asukafag who accuses anyone who doesn't fellate his waifu of samefagging.

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>>153605809
>leave it End Of Evangelion as the last animated Eva work.
That's what he was planning on doing for 10 years, until he realized when making his new studio in 2006 he needed a quick and fast way to make lots of money to fund it.

>>153605895
Anyone have a link to these Tarrot cards?

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>>153605933
I don't remember where I downloaded them, sorry anon.

>>153605342
It was just disappointing to see how all the characters and the world were changed by Shinji's actions in 2.22, except for Rei, who's reverted back to her default state.

I agree that it's not that bad though, since the same thing pretty much happened with Rei 3 and the TV series turned out pretty good.

>>153605933
>google
>evangelion tarot card
>pixiv