Shows /a/ tricked you into watching

What trickery did /a/ employ?

All of them. All anime is bad.

>>153213071
The filter is working

>>153213122
Not the same anon but /a/ told me it was good and had a subtle character developing.
At the end all I got faggots spewing bullshit and boring mysteries.

>>153213181
This but unironically.

Evangelion

why would you watch anime for the story?

>>153213218
this

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>>153213218
Yes, the filters were working alright. They made sure to shove plenty of filtered shots in your face the first episode

>>153213071
Konosuba

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Pokemon XY.

>>153213071

Basically every KyoAni show since Nichijou.

HxH
Its generic shonen shit

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Thank you.

KyoAni actually has a lot of talented staff and you can see their passion in their works. They should hire the plebs from 4chan to work there for a day, maybe you will stop spreading bullshit then if you think its so easy. No appreciation for stellar direction, camera movements, editing, cuts, transitions, visual direction. Muh cute girls, muh no story putting on pedestal. Plebs indeed.

Flip Flappers.

>>153213297
The show is a high iq test.

You didn't make the cut.

Best to keep watching your generic shonen.

>>153214900
None of that matters when the writing is shit.

>>153214900

KyoAni is the best at TV animation without question. The problem is they suck at telling a story and developing characters. And their storyboard direction is also lacking. Usually consisting of very wide shots (to emphasize the amazing animation) but with little variety. So you have 20 minutes of characters sitting at a table talking. Then suddenly 1 minute of a foreshortened character walking under a limbo pole.

In other words, they are the prime example of how even a animated show needs more going on than just good animation. It needs a strong plot, strong characters and variety.

>>153215095
Nope, the presentation is very important. Anime is a visual medium. And their scripts, while not amazing, are still solid, The direction and everything brings it even a notch up.
But if you like scripts then go read some classic books pleb and stop shitting on cartoons for kids, because thats an achievement in life. Shitting on cartoons for kids. This will make your future girlfriend wet. Not.

>>153215212
>Anime is a visual medium
So you just watch everything on mute with no subtitles then?

>>153215095
>writing
>such buzzword, much wow
>you are the prime example of baby's critic first words, learn more about animation and critiquing in general

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I heard it was an original masterpiece

It wasn't that but it was pretty good regardless

>>153215212
>Anime is a visual medium.
So is cinema and no one defends KyoAni-tier shitty scripts in real films.

>>153215291
Learn to green text newfag.

>>153215277
Dumb comment is dumb.

>>153213809
Getting tricked by VP doesn't count

>>153215335
Your script is shitty. You are here on an anonymous forum shitting on cartoons for kids. Your life is shitty if you have nothing better to do than complain about an animation studio in Japan that makes cartoons for kids on an internet board where you are hiding ur username. Your life is complete.

>>153215339
The only dumb comment here is the one saying that a show doesn't require a good script in order to be good because anime is a "visual medium" whatever the fuck that even means.

Although it's no surprise that someone who thinks good scripts aren't required for a show to be good likes garbage like Hyouka. If you think that writing doesn't matter in anime, then of course you'll enjoy a show with shitty writing.

>>153215075
Whatever help you sleep at night.

>>153215335
Anon, I dont know if your lost, but please dont tell me /tv/ actually thinks cinema is some paragon of writing, especially recently. The amount of "shitty scripts" that get greenlit isnt even funny anymore, it looks like people just stopped trying and would rather use pre-exsisting IP to sell their work.

>>153215212
You can add all the editing techniques in the world to footage of a guy taking a dump, but in the end of the day you watched crap. Anything that's actually good has script as its priority, doesn't matter the medium.

>>153215440
I never said it doesnt matter. I said visuals are important too, because anime is a visual medium. I dont take seriously people who put only script on pedestal. Or story or whatever. Anime doesnt even need to have a story to be good. The ideas, exploring things, the direcction, presentation, characters are what makes something truly stand out for me. Prime example of this: Aria and Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou.

>>153215501
No one mentioned /tv/.

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>>153215075
This is some good bait.

>>153215546
You seem to think scripts and stories are the same thing. I think you ought to educate yourself before you engage in this discussion again.

>>153215552
I did. Because you seem like a cross boarder.

>>153215510
Most of the best anime out there dont even have a amazing story or an amazing script. In fact, they are pretty simple: Aria, Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou, Haibane Renmei, Tatami Galaxy, Ping Pong etc.

>>153215611
Script OR story. Not the same thing. Never said it is.

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>>153213071
This fucking garbage. I didn't even have high expectations because
>Mecha batlle harem
But goddamn it wasn't even half as good as IS.

>>153215678
The story and characters fall under he script. How well they are written. So its not exactly the same, but not that different either.

>>153215636
Only saw TTG and Ping Pong, and those actually have good scripts. You're just proving my point. Compare those Yuasa shows to Kaiba, his other show that had its writing deteriorate in later episodes.

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>>153215212
>Anime is a visual medium.
agreed so naruto is the best anime ever

Serial Experiments Lain, Ergo Proxy, Texhnolyze, Kara no Kyoukai, Madoka Magica.

Most of this stuff. Boring and dark and edgy. Watching them was really dull and uninteresting.

>>153215212

See >>153215097

Every TV show, even animated, needs more to it than just amazing visuals. KyoAni basically has the same problem Lucas had with the Star Wars prequels. Focused so much on trying to do visually what he thought the audience wanted and not what would tell a good story. Replace lightsabers and CGI aliens with Ahoge and big tit girls.

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>>153215856
but DUDE anime is a VISUAL MEDIUM so visuals are the most important thing

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>>153213071

Fuck it Hyouka thread?

Best arc was the Hyouka arc. Then the Movie arc.

I'd put the movie arc up higher but I was so close to getting solving the mystery but I didn't ask the right questions, and that stone cold bitch pissed me off. Hyouka at least had one heck of satisfying closure even though I was about ready to smack Chitanda for dropping such a stupid question on Oreki.

Oreki: What's the problem?
Chitanda: My uncle told me a story. And I cried. Why did I cry?
Oreki: ...I got out of my bed for this?

>>153215913
>Fuck it Hyouka thread?
no that's not what this is retard

>>153215827
Because Yuasa sucks as script writer (Kaiba and Kemonozume), but he is a good director and with his wild and vivid style he can bring any interesting script a level above.
Tatami galaxy and Ping Pong were adaptations. You should thank manga/novel authors, Yuasa just refined them with his style, People praise Yuasa way to much, the actual authors of the original work should be more praised.

>>153215849
>MUH COMFY
>>>/co/mblr

>>153215849
these, but madoka was ok

>>153215856

>Replace lightsabers and CGI aliens with eye sparkles and moe girls.
ftfy

>>153215894
Visuals are not the most important thing, but they are very important. Its like 60% script (characters, story), 40% presentation (visuals, sound). Even if an anime has the greatest script it can never be amazing, if it has shitty visuals that do nothing and dont fully use the anime medium and animation to its maximum.

>>153215936
I agree that he's far from impressive in writing, but his simple stuff is neat, like his Adventure Time and Space Dandy episodes

>>153216135
Never saw Adventure Time, but heard good things about Space Dandy. Especially season 2. Heard that season 1 is not as good as season 2. And lots of sakuga animation.

hyouka is perfect for vicariously living through the days of japanese high school festival

>>153216125
>Even if an anime has the greatest script it can never be amazing, if it has shitty visuals that do nothing and dont fully use the anime medium and animation to its maximum.
it works the other way around as well

visuals can't carry a show.

that's why something like welcome to the NHK (good story with QUALITY visuals) will always be remembered over shit like phantom world which was good visuals with a shitty story

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I never trusted /a/ again after they talked me into wasting my time with this.

the majority of day time soap operas have more nuanced and realistic characters than even the most lauded 'intellectual' anime, nge for instance

>>153216253
Yeah it works both ways.
But sometimes there are exceptions. Like if the animation and visuals are really good, like for example Redline, but the script is kinda meh. Its still a very enjoyable watch. Not saying its a masterpiece level, but yeah. I hope you get what im trying to say.
I mean, sometimes the pretty colors and cute girls are enough for a fun anime, not every anime need to have a splendid script or splendid visuals to be enjoyable.

>>153216211
Space Dandy is hit or miss to me, but its mere presence is neat. Don't know when we'll get something like it again. His AT episode doesn't need much context, I don't watch the show myself.

>>153216389
What are your favorite anime and directors?

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>>153216342
>he fell for the "Keijo is good" meme

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>>153213071
>Everytime it's mentioned anons say it's boring.
Oh yeah they trick you good.
It's a decent SoL with mundane mysteries, it starts slow, but it grows on you and some arcs are really interesting.
Best anime by Kyoani for sure. I can't understand how the same people that call this boring enjoy the snorefest that is K-On.

noone posting boku no pico

disappoint

Madoka
Flip Flappers
Yuri on Ice

>>153216546
Have not seen all KyoAni shows but my favorite are: Haruhi movie, Hyouka, Hibike and K-ON

least favorite: Clannad, Phantom World, Kyoukai no Kanata, Amagi Brilliant Park, Air, Tamakot Market

Still need to watch the new Yamada movie.

>>153216446
I'm still a pleb when it comes to directors, so no particular favorites, but some of my favorite shows are Kaiji, Eva, Dragon Ball, Tatami, LoGH, Monster

>>153216646
Whatever you do, don't watch Chu2, at least not the second season.

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>>153216563
>Madoka
>Flip Flappers

>>153216546

No, they're right. Its boring. For the reasons people have already pointed out in this thread.

If you found something to like from it, that's fine. But when the majority of people find it boring, that's people voicing their opinion. And despite what you may think, TV shows are about appealing to the public. Not a museum art piece that only needs to appeal to a handful of rich patrons.

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This was neither comfy nor funny. The city boy getting shit on by country-folk premise is consistently terrible.

>>153216342
Do you hate fun?

>>153216546
Both K-On and Hyouka are amazing

And it started fast enough, I was never bored.

>>153216829
Its just an opinion. Different people, different strokes, different tastes, different standards. People sometimes (at least here) take anime way too seriously. They are forgeting that they are watching cartoons and cartoons are meant to be fun.

>>153216355
I think Redline is an interesting recent example of what anime excels at. It goes beyond "its just fun" or anything like that. Its the type of thing I cant really imagine working as well on the big screen, CG just wouldnt feel the same for me. So much of it ends up looking cheap or inconsistent, even after spending hundreds of millions. But in anime you can show a race through a roboplanet milltary facility while they wage all out war on the racers. I havent seen the Fast and Furious movies past few years, but theres only so many ways you can flip a car or have it explode due to the limitations of reality. Thats what people mean (i think) when they talk about anime as a visual medium. Obviously film is as well, but they go about the presentation of story in very different ways. If you think one is inherent better the other, more power to you. All I know is film is probably in its worst state in a while in terms of creativity and storytelling.

>>153216864
No, but I hate shit anime.

>>153215913
>movie arc
It was a shitty arc about a movie where only the MC and team cared hell not even the club cared about.

>>153216829
Anime is niche. It only needs to appeal to a narrow demographic, because those are the only people willing to pay for it. What the public thinks doesn't matter, because they don't care about the medium.
And Hyouka sold okay, would have been good by any other standards than Kyoani's, so it was a good anime.

>>153216726
Watch Ping Pong and Seirei no Moribito. Also if you like Kaiji its high chance you will like One Outs. If you like EVA its high chance you will like Serial Experiments Lain. If you like Dragon Ball its high chance you will like Hunter x Hunter 2011 and FMA: Brotherhood. If you like LOGH its high chance you will like Yamato 2199. If you like Monster its high chance you will like Death Note.

>>153216922
>>153216987

>And Hyouka sold okay, would have been good by any other standards than Kyoani's, so it was a good anime.
But since it had such a huge budget and still didn't do as well as other KyoAni shows, it was a pretty clear indicator that shows like Hyouka wouldn't do well in the long term. Hence why KyoAni started making other shows.

>>153216987
Yeah. Actually japan studios and producers dont care a lot what "western" people think about their shows. They dont care what some random nerds think on a random internet site. You can complain and argue here, but they will still count the $$$. Anime is targeted for japan people mostly.

>>153217019
I've seen and loved all of those (outside of Lain, which I've been meaning to see). I appreciate the gesture though.

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>>153216844
>This was neither comfy nor funny

>>153216987

>Anime is niche. It only needs to appeal to a narrow demographic, because those are the only people willing to pay for it.
Side note that has nothing to do with the argument going on. But anime doesn't have to be niche. Its already proven to have worldwide appeal. Japanese companies just fucked up for about three decades selling their shows to distributors and not holding onto the rights themselves. Which allowed the bootleg VHS and later internet to swoop in and fill the massive demand.

Anime companies are finally trying to fix this problem. But its like trying to fix a pinhole leak in a dam after the dam already burst 15 years ago. But Japan has a huge chance with the upcoming Olympics. Which is why I think they're working so hard to market anime reps for the event.

>>153216926
Dont you think that a lot of people put "story" too much on pedestal? Like they go watch a show with a mindset that if there is little or no story, the anime is shit immediatly. They dont even see other things, such as creative ideas, exploration of different things, characters, animation, direction etc. ?

I mean, people often that do for shows that fall under the genre SoL - slice of life. They put the "story" on pedestal and criticize a slice of life show for not having a story, which was not intended from the start. I think you must always judge an anime for what it is and not for what it isnt. I find it kinda funny when people go around watching Non Non Biyori for example and say: this anime has no story, because of this I give it a low score. Tbh, I find this kinda stupid.

>>153217367
Are you not >>153216829

>But when the majority of people find it boring, that's people voicing their opinion. And despite what you may think, TV shows are about appealing to the public. Not a museum art piece that only needs to appeal to a handful of rich patrons.

His post seems pretty relevant considering your argument was "tv is only good if the public likes it"

>>153217582

>Are you not >>153216829 (You)
No, I'm not. I was pointing out that anime could sell better in the international market. Not talking about the Japanese market.

If anime was selling more internationally, there would be a huge change in what sold well. Which is a risk. But it also could mean that a show that didn't sell well in Japan could also sell well internationally and warrant more seasons. A show like Nichijou for example did poorly in Japan. But might find some crazy hype in South America and KyoAni decides to make a second season.

>>153215636
Haibane Renmei and Tatami Galaxy are only simple on the surface. It makes them accessible, which is a good thing. But once you start scratching the surface you begin to see how surprisingly intricate they really are. I haven't seen/read the others, so I can't really say.

>>153217859
How is Tatami Galaxy intricate? I never saw a more simple and straightforward anime ever. Both on surface level and when you delve into it. Its nothing special. The visuals and fast dialogues doesnt make something intricate. Maybe people think the show is intricate because it looks like a hipster show. People overpraising tatami galaxy yet again.

>>153217993
How long are you going to keep this up? I can handle your Hyouka banter but now im getting triggered.

>>153215581
>one of the retards who fell for the IRC crew shitposting

>>153218105
Hyouka banter? I was not talking about Hyouka. Im just asking how is Tatami Halaxy intricate, because its not. Its a simple story with a straightforward message. Just do it. It cant get any more simple than that. Tatami Galaxy =/= complex.

>>153215636
I've actually seen and liked all the shows you listed and fucking hate pretentious iyashikeifags. You getting muh feelz from staring a tranquil scenery is not the same thing as strong narrative and characters. Believing that aria or yokohama have scripts on the same level as haibane, tatami or ping pong is insane.

>>153218304
They do. Especially YKK. YKK has so many things going on, its unbelievable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npLVlJTH_mk
This is a good video.

>>153218304
>pretentious
Just stop posting.

>>153218224
t. kyoanusfag

>>153218416
The wold describes those people perfectly. For further proof watch>>153218415

>>153218415
I found that series to be really interesting. It also taught me about the words sekaikei and nichijoukei
It's interesting how you can talk about K-on in a series about apocalypse

>>153218596
Word*

>>153218242
I mean, its a matter of opinion, but I think your misunderstanding. "Complex" doesnt have to refer to the story or dialouge. It can be in regard to the issues and ideas brought up which I think its pretty hard to argue it goes about in a "straightforward way"

If you distill it down to nothing more than "just do it", then I guess you sort of got the basic "message". But theres a lot more to it than its final message. Without writing like an entire essay on all the scenes and complicated issues raised in TTG, I will try to explain what I mean.

Basically, TTG is about life and happiness and what constitutes those things. Sure you can boil it down to a simple core message, but thats like saying 'Moby Dick is the simple story of a man hunting a whale, it isnt complex in the slightest'.
Youre not exactly wrong, but you missed a lot of what was under the surface.

>>153218415
>a toxic paradoxical harmony was established
literally pretentious gibberish

>>153218596
Ye, someone that likes analysing things and reads japan literature is now pretentious. I think you are just salty and envy this kind of people, because you cant do this. I would gladly see you in a discussion with this guy in the video, you can prove him wrong between 4 eyes. Go on.
Its literary the same thing as saying that people on academy who delve deep into classic books and literature are pretentious. You are just making a fool out of yourself.

>>153218067
I liked it, didn't you.

>>153218703
Sure. Yeah, I know what you mean. I just wanted to say it in a more broad manner, I know there are some other things under surface, but they are not that complex.

For example, you can boil down NGE anime to - a show about self worth and accepting yourself, escapism. But there are many other interesting things hidden - Like Freudian theory, Oedipus complex etc. This things are just more interesting to analyse than things in Tatami. But thats just me.

>>153216342
Keijo was fun. I genuinely liked it.

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>>153215719
this
and also pic related

>>153219088
3 easy questions:
1. best butt?
2. best boobs?
3. best girl?

>>153218798
Half of the stuff he is saying is gibberish and even when he is comprehensible his arguments and points are lukewarm at very best. And another thing to note is that his videos are rarely about why the anime in question is a good work of fiction, like the one you posted. Rather they are an exercise in how far he can take his postmodern interpretations. Watch his erased video and claim in good conscience academics would try to justify that piece of garbage like he does.

>>153219327
What is pretentious here? You cant understand those simple words or what? I dont get it. It seems that uneducated teens nowadays can only use buzzwords like "pleb" and "shit" and "pretentious" and "2deep4u", but when it comes to actual grammar and analysing we only hear crickets. Doesnt matter what it is or what he does, he is not doing it for you, but for him. He likes it to do. Also this videos have nothing to do with proving something is of high quality. But they are intersting and you can learn something new. Now, go back into your cave and stop being salty and offensive about a youtube video with a lot of effort.

>>153219117
1. toyoguchi
2. hanabi
3. sayaka

>>153215849
Don't compare these
>Serial Experiments Lain, Ergo Proxy, Texhnolyze,
with these
>Kara no Kyoukai, Madoka Magica.

>>153218864
Kon kon poi poi

>>153219481
I can compare whatever I want. Its just my opinion. Why are you so butthurt. I dont like those anime. They are uninteresting. I never said you cant like them. Some random guy on internet likes/dislikes a cartoon that I like/dislike. Such tragedy. Blasphemy.

>>153218415
>morality in jin-roh's intertext
>uncertain identities in amagi brilliant park
man, this guy has been sniffing his own farts for a looong time

JoJo

>>153213071
This.

Thanks /a/.

>>153219453
Again I used the word correctly as it describes the guy well. But lets get back to the original post. Nothing in the video arguments why yokohama is a great work of fiction. The video is all about him trying to extrapolate how japanese view disaster through yokohama.

./a/ said Flip Flappers is a masterpiece

And I was dissapointed.

>>153216342
This

>>153219741
Just like he was trying to make the awfully written Erased seem like it was a critique of japanese law enforcement.

>>153219544
Jesus, whats got you all pissy? If youre entitled to your opinion, then so is he.

Also if youre trying to act like you dont care what others think, maybe just dont reply instead of sperging out with "omg u butthurt? they suck u mad??? i dont even care!!!!"

>>153219741
Yes and what is wrong with this? Its an interesting analysis. I enjoyed listening to it. I learned some new things about YKK that I didnt see it before. Who cares about buzzwords such as "great work of fiction". Its all a matter of taste, perspective, opinions, standards and preferences. Anime/manga is my hobby. If I enjoy something in my spare time, then its time well spent. I enjoyed YKK as manga and I enjoy listening to different things about YKK, be it on whatever level or connection. Now stop bothering me.

>>153219894
I said they are boring and unintersting. Never said they suck, u mad. Dont put words into my mouth. If someone is mad here, then it was him, because he replied to my >listening comment about the question in OP. I just named a few titles within the topic title question. Its literally him who got a reaction, because of those named titles. If I were to name anything else then some else would be bothered. Somebody will always complain, whatever you say.

>>153220091
Can you eloborate on how something can be boring and uninteresting yet not suck? Why do we even watch media at all if not to avoid boredom?

>>153219102
>>153215719
How can anyone get tricked into watching battle harems?

>>153220229
You just dont get it, do you?
I also found Mushishi boring. But I can appreciate what it does and that it uses the anime medium to its fullest. Its just not my cup of tea. And sometimes I need a right mindset to enjoy something or even watch it. Few years ago I found Only Yesterday to be a very boring movie, but now when I rewatched it many years later I found it more relatable as im older and enjoyed it more than when I was a teen. Its just a matter of perspective. Dont be angry now, I dont mean any harm.

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How come I only enjoy /a/-tier anime when I'm high ?

It kinda feels like I'm "in on the joke" right then.

>>153219102
It was obvious that it wouldn't be good after the first couple episodes. The only person you have to blame is yourself.

flip floppers and mob shitco

NGE
It was bad.

Ping Pong
It was good.

>>153219911
Nothing wrong with that at all, except you tried to pass that video off like it was an argument for how strong the script of yokohama is.

About that whole perspective thing. Do you genuinely believe a run of the mill battle harem is equally good as a Kon movie just because someone somewhere liked the harem more?

>>153220327
I mean, no I still dont really get it. If you appreciate Mushishi and think its an example of an anime using the medium properly, then how is it not enjoyable on some level? Nobodies angry, I was genuinely curious what you appreciated about an anime you found 'uninteresting' and Mushishi is a pretty understandable example. Obviously perspective can change over time and influence the way you feel about a work years later, but then you arent 'bored' anymore so its not really the same appreciation as you have for Mushishi.

The only show I even really disagree with you on is Lain. But even then its a Mushishi type of respect for its non traditional format of storytelling, its definitely not an easy watch.

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>>153220679
>mob shitco

What? How?

How can you not enjoy a show where the final battle is actually some guy lecturing the bad guys into submission?

>>153220779
I dont believe in anything really. And If someone genuinely enjoyed the harem more than the Kon movie, then yes, for HIM it is a better anime. Just a different opinion and taste. Nothing new.

As for me, I dont like harem anime. But I do enjoyed Bakemonogatari (that counts as harem, right?) a lot more than any Kon movie ever made.

>>153220846
So talk no jutsu is ok when Mob Psycho does it but not when Naruto does it?

>>153220785
I honestly cant properly explain why. I find Mushishi very sophisticated to look at and everything about it. The setting, the atmosphere, the non black and white mushi and nature theme exploration. And ginko just being a catalyst for everything, travelling around and helping other people in a bunch of small stories anthology. But nothing of this helps if I found it boring, need to stop watching it midways to do some other stuff on internet, couldnt focus on the episode, because I was falling asleep sometimes etc etc. I cant explain it. Its not shit, its just bored me, not my cup of tea or what? I can totally see its quality and why people do like it, but I found it boring.

>>153213071
Monogatari

actually anything by fucking shaft

>>153215849
Watched Lain and Madoka and they were pretty boring.
Guess I won't watch the others then.

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>>153213071
This garbage

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>>153221470
Still better than this garbage

I don't watch anything based on /a/'s recommendation. I come here to complain when something that was recommended elsewhere ended up being shit.

>>153221583
GREATEST

>>153221583
I like that show, while Clannad was so boring.

I want something very relaxing and cute. Any suggestions /a/ ?

>>153221650
die in a fire

>>153221583
I'm on episode 3 right now, when does it get good?

>>153221650
Demi-chan
>>153221583
>>153221628
LOVE STORY

>>153221722
EVER

>>153221766
NAH.

>>153221685
What is wrong with you? How old are you?

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>>153221808
It's good man

>>153213218
/thread

>>153215894
Is that supposed to be good or something?

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>>153221470
>>153221629
>>153216646
But thats good.

>>153221470
>>153221629
>>153216646
Curious. How far did you get in Clannad?

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>>153220998
>So talk no jutsu is ok when Mob Psycho does it but not when Naruto does it?

YES. It is okay when Mob Psycho does it. And it WAS okay when Naruto did it, until they overdid it.

When it comes to storytelling, you can do WHATEVER YOU WANT. What counts is your execution. You can get away with it and have people praising your work even if it has been done to death as long as you do it better than their expectations.

In other words, it's not what you do, it how you do it.

>>153222854,>>153222635
When they figured out that woman who's marrying can't see the little girl giving out wooden starfish. I'll try re-watching, maybe I wasn't in the right mood.

>>153222854
I watched both Clannad and Clannad After Story. I rated Clannad 4/10 - bad and Clannad AS 6/10 - fine.

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At least the threads were fun for shitposting

>>153222995
Clannad was something I sort-of dropped. Then when I was caught up with my important backlog and bored I ended up continuing. The further in I got the more hooked I was.

>>153213809
It was good.

>>153221470
>>153221583
Figuratively and literally kill yourselves

>>153215075
It wasn't even that smart to begin with. Hyoukafags literally are worse than nisiofags and konfags now. Even that shitty Amagi Seimaru could tell better mysteries with his recycled ideas.

>>153213407
This. I only watched it to get in on the greatest waifu war mankind has ever seen.

Thanks, /a/

>>153215913
Best arc was the school festival

>>153213218
Exactly what I think everytime this thread pops up.

>>153216342
It was fun, you autist.

>>153216342
Fuck off, that was such a fun anime.

>>153216253
>QUALITY
Inigo_Montoya.rmvb
protip: It means mistakes in animation/shitty animation in general/shitty design in general, depending on person using it, but it never means actual quality

zetsubou sensei
madoka
flcl
monogatari
tokyo ghoul
d-frag
mondaiji-tachi
syd

>>153220728
>Ping Pong
>It was good.
I don't get it, were you tricked into thinking it was bad?
I watched it because I thought it would be a stupid ping pong anime and ended up loving it.

>>153224264
>It means mistakes in animation/shitty animation in general/shitty design in general
Yes, did you watch NHK?

>>153224463
NHK has really underwhelming animation and dull character design and colors. Nothing stands out in production values.

>>153216864
>>153219088
>>153223838
>>153223919
>fun

Literally the ultimate buzzword used to defend awful shows, it manages to be even worse than people describing generic moeshit as "comfy".

Ergo Proxy

>>153224719
>>>/co/

>>153224719
Why? If its fun then it did something right. Not a lot of shows are fun. Watching anime is a hobby. You are watching shows aimed at kids, dude. Having fun with them its the purpose of your hobby. Anime are not science or academy literature.

>>153225125
>being too dumb to enjoy Ergo Proxy

>>153224719
You don't even manage to pass episode 1 and ultimately dropping the show after making assumption that it sucked, don't you? Also it ain't a buzzword if it's true.

>>153224719
Its not a buzzword. If the anime is fun than thats more than enough for me. I dont watch cartoons to critical evaluate them and circlejerk around on internet with random people. I watch anime after a day of work, to relax and have some fun. I dont have time to worry about nonsense such as being critical and writing wall of text about some simple fun shows. I have better things to do, such as wife, kids and work.

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>>153213071
This cringeworthy piece of shit

>>153221711
it doesn't

>>153226745
b-but le waifu

>>153221470
its like you can tell it was a visual novel adaptation

>>153224719
I mean i get where you are coming from but some shows can be strictly fun like konosuba

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If you have such bad taste that you needed to be tricked into watching an AOTY, what are you doing on /a/?

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Shit characters
Bad songs
Terrible drama
Garbage animation

It wasn't "so bad it's good", it was just bad.

Toradora is a solid 5/10, not bad, not good, how did it got meme'd to this extent will be remain as a mystery forever, it's like the original Umaru.

>>153227006
If crap like Hyouka was AOTY then I can't imagine how much worse everything else was

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>>153213071
I never believe anything you fuckers say. SO unless watching something because someone posted a cute cartoon girl counts as being tricked, then I've never been tricked into watching anything. If it counts, then I fell for watching Love Live. And I've been obsessed ever since

>>153227152
Not worse than this season.

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>>153227152
>so new he wasn't even watching anime in 2012
>thinks Hyouka is crap
Pottery.

>>153228515
It is though isn't it.

>>153224719
Dude it never pretends to be something it isn't. Hell, I even had tears during the last fight scene; surprisingly gay, I know. I also remember Miyaka doing something that made me cry, so unexpected.

Anyway, the appearance that Keijo presented and the type of humor it contains gives a certain visual of what it's going to be about; busty and fit women hitting each other with their nipples and asses. the other stuff is just complementary, especially considering it never made itself to be about that type of genre. It actually does a good job in captivation for that reason.

>>153228515
>feeling superior because you've been a manchild longer than someone else
damn....

>>153228657
>anime is for manchildren and nerds
>while shittalking one of the few anime aimed at an ever so slightly more mature audience made in the last decade

Is this satire?

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>>153228657
>I have the greatest opinion on anime ever, I'm right about anything
>oh, by the way, people who watch anime are fucking manchildren babies, fuck those people

Madoka Magica.

It blew up on /a/ when it was airing but I thought the show was pretty shit. Since everybody kept talking very well about it, I kept watching it, hoping for it to be good

It wasn't, and the ending was shit

>>153214900
>No appreciation for stellar direction, camera movements, editing, cuts, transitions, visual direction
god have you even watched a KyoAni show? They know like one shot and only use that

>>153213071
>hyouka
>hxh
>Jojo

>>153228815
>hyouka
>aimed at mature audiences
It must have failed then since I doubt that anyone older than 14 could like that shit

>>153228881
I couldn't force myself to watch even 3 episodes of it. The art was too disgusting.

>>153213071
lain and haibane weren't bad, but /a/ massively overrated them, and i like slow atmospheric stuff

>>153229389
I feel the same about hand shakers

>>153213071
From this season?

>Gabriel drop out
>dragon maid
>akiba trip

Some of the worst anime I've ever seen

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>>153229432
>Godakobo
>GodAni
>AOTS contender
What are you watching instead then?

>>153229489
The actual anime of this season.

>>153214977
this. glad the new consensus is that it's bad since more people have had time to watch it

>>153229391
You don't get that kind of imaginative, unique and subtle storytelling very often and they're more than worthy of their praise. They're far more evocative than any of their competition.

>>153229570
they're both vague messes with just enough "theme" that people can speculate on them, and both have cheesy anime endings, talk about bathos

i still give them props for trying

Anti-Hyoukafags are so obnoxious desu

>>153229625
So are picasso's paintings. Still considered masterpieces.

>>153229673
just lol

ABe fans are delusional

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I expecting something more then cute witches being fuckheads.

>>153229725
petty insults over credible arguments. Sounds like a normal argument on this site to me.

>>153229805
"lain is anime picasso" is not a credible argument, try that anywhere outside of /a/

>>153229880
I did not say lain was picasso. I said you can apply your same retarded argument to picasso.

>>153229928
you seem to be confused: that isn't actually an arugment

>>153213218
/thread

>>153213218
/thread

>>153229992
Can you at least start by explaining why picasso is allowed to be vague and not lain? If we're continuing this analogy?

>>153230177
you could try defending lain on its own merits instead of making half-baked analogies to old artists in a different medium

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>>153223073
They did a good job with the spanking scene, at least. Better than the one from Burst that looked like the guy was smacking a mannequin.

>>153230330
>those shows are bad because they are vague!
>but picasso is vague too and he's well respected
>come up with a better argument nerd!

I would bother to come up with a better argument but it's pointless since you count completely normal and common things in art as flaws

>>153230746
now that's just openly giving up. maybe address the rest of the post too instead of the first word

>>153216342
Keijo is good once you give up on trying to take it seriously.

>>153229748
It's weird how this series seems to be getting nothing but worse as it goes on

Picking up Berserk as a manga and tricking me into joining their suffering.

>>153230874
dude your argument was they were vague and their endings were cheesy. Their endings are also both vague. That's literally one argument. Did you even read your own post?

Do you want more examples of "vague messes with just enough theme that people can speculate on them"?

Cinema: Tarkovsky, Kubrick, Bresson, Lynch, Kaufman, pretty much the entire French New Wave.

Anime: Evangelion, Lain, Angel's Egg, Texhnolyze, Ergo Proxy, Satoshi kon movies, Tsumiki no Ie.

Theatre: Waiting for Godot, Death of a Salesman, etc. etc.

Are all of these bad too because they are vague? It's not even close to an exhaustive list. People have been doing what you've been claiming as a flaw for far longer than you've been alive, and being praised for it.