Flip Flappers

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>>153185067
>did the sales of this go well?
You did this on purpose, didn't you?

>883

>>153185067
>Also was it ever explained how or why Papika never grew up and was always young?
yes

>>153185067
The sales were not a complete and utter disaster, but they were disappointing and sad.

Other shows managed to sell even worse, but it didn't manage to sell well either, not even decently, they were very mediocre.

And yes they sort of explain why Papika became young again.
The dick tree prison place where she was stuck was in an unstable part of pure illusion that was almost like a limbo where time flowed in unstable ways and that's what affected her and made the age shenanigans happen.

Somekindofcuck on suicide watch

>>153185251
Yayaka a SHIT! She doesn't deserve Cocona.

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>Cockona

>>153186429
>tfw you'll never sniff Cocona

>>153186591
>tfw I have coconut scented shampoo
I can always dream can't I?

>>153186419
Yayaka was a great girl, Cocona didn't deserve her.

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>>153187825
>Didn't deserve a great girl
>got a great girl instead
Sucks to be Cocona, I guess.

>>153187825
>Great
Lied to Cocona all her life and was ruining her goals and attacked her friend.

>>153187874
Cocona didn't get a girl she got a pet dog
>>153187953
Yayaka was raised by a cult which she couldn't help, but even then she only had Cocona's best interests at heart.
Meanwhile, Cocona never actually cared about Yayaka past the surface. How do you go that long and not know anything about where your friend grew up, what their interests are, what they do in their spare time? She was an awful friend who just wanted anyone by her side.

>>153188238
She got someone who'd protect her, make her happy and can go on adventures with.

>>153188276
So you agree, a pet dog

>>153188238
>she got a pet dog
You can't fuck dogs, Skippy.

>>153188319
You can, actually. And it's not even illegal in many places.

>>153188314
How is she a pet dog.

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>You'll never sniff Cocona
>You'll never fly on the hoverboard
>You'll never go on adventures
>You'll never have Bu-chan be Bu-chan

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>>153188362
I don't think she's a pet dog.
But i can see why people think that she is.

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>>153188624

>>153188756
>You'll never sleep in a tunnel fort?

has anyone made an explanation of the plot and the symbolism? I wanna rewatch the show after reading one.

>>153188864
more like
>you'll never return to the womb with your mother's old fuckbuddy

>>153188901
Yeah

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So what was the meaning of the world with those faceless people that kept starting over?

Does anyone here like Salt?

>>153189089
I do.

I still don't think his shadiness/assholeness in the first half of the show was justified, but I sympathized for his position in it all.

>>153189089
No we are all yuri dykes stop asking

>>153189121
JK salt's a pretty cool dude, shota salt was adorable and all that

>>153189119
But why? He was a failure of a friend and father? He's the reason Mimi and Papika got there life's ruined because he didn't aid them.

>>153188941

wow thanks

>>153189119
Plus that character design.

>>153189119
It really was strange that he didn't do more in the show's first 2/3. Like I can understand he had to keep his status as Cocona's father on the dl, but they went overboard with his aloofness.

>>153189343
He might have been extremely depressed

>>153189244
No prob

>>153189017
It was a riff on class S yuri like Marimite

>>153189355
I think that was a given from the way he is and the lab.

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>>153189017
"12" was a loose metaphor that can mean a lot of things, but was generally about the inability to move forward. It represented both Cocona's conception of her relationship with Papika, her engagement with the world as a whole in a Jungian sense, and yuri genre archetypes.

It's worth noting that everything "12" was obscured in that world. Cocona's wristwatch and the 12th dorm room are obvious examples, but also the 12th step landing on the stairway leading to the roof, to the place where students always go in pairs and where Cocona and Papika share their little cohabiting Pipe paradise. The 12th step to the roof being blocked is a neat bit of trivia, but it also lends a lot of weight to that scene and the fact that Papika circumvents the step and helps Cocona to the roof anyways.

>>153188935
Bet they've flipped flaps in there several times.

>>153189685
Imagine how stuffy it would get in a narrow pipe full of cushions and pillows, with at least one of its two openings plugged. Two bodies in there, moving, sweating, breathing; other fluids leaking.

That place must be fetid and dank with the lingering stench of lesbians.

>>153190017
Take a whiff inside and it'll just be that exact smell. All the cushions and pillows probably stained with their bodily fluids.

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>>153190017
>lingering stench of lesbians

>>153189236
Not everyone makes rational decisions. Sometimes people put their career above all else; why would you abandon such a prestigious position to run away with some experiment subjects? I'm not trying to say he lacks empathy, but there's a rationality to his decision.

He also didn't know she was pregnant.

>>153190017
They probably made some new features and attachments to Bu-chan.

>>153190172
I bet Papika can probably identify each and every single stain
>And that's from the time Cocona came really, really hard! I sleep with that one.
>And that's from when I forgot I was drooling. Cocona got really mad at me for that.
>Oh, and that's where Cocona lost bladder control. Would you like some tea? Cocona doesn't drink tea anymore.

>>153190449
>Cocona doesn't drink tea anymore
Does she now drink bodily fluids now?

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There there, they were all great girls deserving of happiness and love and each other.

Interesting, multifaceted, well written and cute good girls.

They should just make a happy threesome.

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Guess who drew this

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>>153191421
She got cucked by Mimi poor girl.

>>153191421
It's not really a threesome since Papika and Yayaka didn't get much time to have a relationship.

>>153191604
Remember in episode 9 where they fought over Yayaka's food?
It'd be like that, except the food would be Cocona's bean.

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>>153191488
a homage?

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>>153191640
Or they could spend time together instead

>>153191642
Papika probably smells exactly like that fish.

>>153191604
True, such a shame.

If the show had been two cour they could have gone that route, after deafeating Mimi it turns out there was an even greater organization behind asclepcius and even more secrets related to pure illusion, and along the way Papika and Yayaka need to bond a bit more.

They still got some good dynamics going though.

Yayaka could tease Papika well, but Papika was clever enough to adapt to it all the time. They could actually argue and banter with each other in ways that it's not normally possible with Cocona because she's too sensible. Same reason why Yayaka could hype up Papika more, as they were both quite hot blooded.

Damn it I wanted more of those two together.

>>153191819
God bless futanon, the OC MVP of this show.

>>153191819
More edits of them? This is great work thanks anon.

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Check out Yuniko's next yuri show

>>153191843
They could have just had Cocona and Papika take down Asclepius themselves.

Break it down like this:
Episode 10 proceeds as normal, except without Mimi taking over at the end. Cocona is just captured by Asclepius.
Episode 11 reveals that Salt's dad, Cocona's grandfather, rules the KKK. Swaps back and forth between the perspectives of Cocona trapped in Asclepius and Papika racing around town, evading Asclepius patrols while searching for Cocona.
Episode 12 Cocona escapes, but Papika loses the shards.
Episode 13 is a cooldown episode where PaCoYa reunite and plan to confront Asclepius head-on to retake the shards and stop whatever plan Asclepius has
Episode 14 and 15 are the actual confrontation, split into two parts.
15 ends on a cliffhanger with Asclepius successfully reviving Mimi
Mimi's arc is now extended from episode 16 onward and includes much more character development and more scenes with her and Cocona.

This arc also includes standalone-ish episodes like the first cours, but this time it's Papika and Yayaka, or the twins searching PIs for Mimi and encountering hostile traps created by her to keep them away. Instead of just being "evil mom watch out" she functions more like a trickster deity occupying pure illusion, that just so happens to also be Cocona's mom.

You cover the same basic story across two cours while having some more time for the types of singular episodes that made the show so good, and also more time to develop the main plot. Plus Cocona and Papika's reunion would have more impact due to them spending more time apart, and Cocona being more cognizant for that duration instead of just being mommies widdle vegetable for two episodes.

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>>153192496
I wish it had been 2 cours so much.

>>153191969
GoKiGeNyOu!

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>>153192780
Yep, it'll probably be a while before we get something like this again.

>>153185311
>2nd Volume 795

That means even within the minority fanbase 88 persons couldnt afford to waste more money on this shit. Really makes you think.

>All the c91 stuff on infinites site sold out a few days ago

I want to die inside.

>>153192917
If ever at all.
The episodic genre shifts during the earlier parts were so good, and it's a very rare thing to see in anime.
Plus the way they kept the mystery for so long while retaining the stakes and the hype high with great teases and cliffhangers was fantastic and really made them satisfying despite being so episodic.

Along with the action and combat design which was so good on it sown right and the girls which were top tier characters with such great yuri.

>>153192917
Honestly, I'm just desperate for an OVA or something.
I need a proper epilogue
I need Cocona and Papika just being unabashedly lovey-dovey with each other, without a care in the world
I need Yayaka moving on and finding happiness and fulfillment in her life now that she's free
I need Mimi hosting PI tea parties and being a dorky teenage mom

But mostly I just need more.

>>153193235
All of those things can be somewhat delivered in a single episode.

Mimi has a tea party in pure illusion and she invites everyone.

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>>153193235
Yep, it left a empty sad feeling inside me when the final episode finished and the ED came on, it needed more and I want more of fun adventures with them, seeing more random worlds and watching them goof off with each other. We definitely need more Mimi I feel she got the short end of the stick with barely any proper time of her with Cocona. >>153193274
That would make a great OVA.

>>153193274
I'd picture it like something out of Alice in Wonderland.

Mimi would sit at the head of the table, looking refined and elegant, speaking politely and sipping tea with her pinky out.
But around the table, between each actual guest, a different teddybear would be seated. Because it's PI, each of the teddybears would be animated, and they'd each represent a part of Mimi's personality that she's hiding while she puts on the gracious host act. One bear drills Cocona relentlessly about what Salt has been doing, and if there's any women in his life. Who is this "Sayuri" person and what does she look like?
Another would just constantly spout embarrassing stories about Papika from the good ol' days
A third would pick a fight with Yayaka over how "unladylike" her manners
A fourth and fifth would just be constantly primping Yuyu and Toto, fixing their hair, wiping crumbs from their cheeks and generally babying them.
A sixth would just carry Nyunyu off and bring her back halfway through the episode in some proper clothes
A seventh would be playing Old Maid with Bu-chan and cheating. It'd still lose anyways and throw a tantrum over it.
And a few more around the table would just occasionally interject into conversations. One being bitter and angsty and cynical about everything. One being pure and oblivious about the world and constantly being confused. And, one that's very obviously based on evil Mimi, wearing the henshin outfit and everything, that's just sitting grumpily at the opposite ending the table, making it obvious it doesn't want to be there.

>>153193593
I love that idea as a way to generate all sorts of good interactions between the characters, answer some questions via those interactions and show more of Mimi's inner elements all along the way with a fun and silly setting that fits a PI so well.

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>>153189089
He was my self-insert. His voice actor did an amazing job too. You could really feel all the pain and regret he harbored all those years.
>>153193068
FUCK, I was planning on ordering a second blanket. Now I'm too afraid to open the one I got. Maybe they'll restock?

>>153189089

Of course.
I wasn't always on board him him, he seemed shady as fuck.
But he was one of the good guys.
He managed to pull it all off in the end, stuck to the plan and made up for his mistakes.
They sure managed to make him a likable example of that sort of character which is unusual and I'm happy about it.

>>153194162
>That edit
Makes him lose all seriousness of his character kek.

>>153195377
He was always a bit of a joke
He spent 14 years preparing a weapon to stop Mimi and she breaks it in about 4 seconds
He got his daughter back and then couldn't even work up the courage to introduce himself
He had to prostrate himself before a JC delinquent to clean up his mess for him
And his heroic entrance in the final episode accomplished nothing except get his glasses broken.

>>153195554
Now that you put it in that way desu, he sounds like a complete failure and letdown.

Someone said there was a Dream Hunter Rem reference in this show, is that true?

>>153195699
Don't know but you should watch it anyway anon-kun.

>>153195554
Oh come on.
You forgot to mention the utter failure of letting Mimi and Papika alone without figuring out what was truly troubling them. Half the fault goes to them for not explaining themselves clearly though.
And also that time he dropped the cute intern with a crush on him from the bike, shame on you Salt. He's lucky she has such a big crush on him she didn't care.

But then again he did make up Flip Flappers out of nowhere, managed to refine his technology with his low resources well enough to make things work out.
A cool base, method to travel to PI, robot guards, Bu chan, all the systems to track PI.
They had some good stuff there and probably underbudget too, that's sort of an achievement.

He probably had to raise Papika for a while in some form at least.
More importantly though he was dedicated to this cause, even if he didn't directly do that much in the end he was essential for everything, without him there's no Flip Flappers, no Cocona and Papika reuniting and exploring PI, no Bu chan, Sayuri and Hidaka to help them out, no method to enter together reliably and so on.

His weapon failing vs Mimi is not such a big deal because Mimi was broken, everything failed vs her.
Not working up his courage is excusable at the time because I assume he didn't want to put Cocona under even more stress at the time but he definitely needs to come clean about that now.
And prostrating himself to Yayaka was a very manly thing to do, in a way. It means he was ready to put his pride behind and humbly beg for help to save those he cared about.
His final act did buy the girls some time at least even if it wasn't that much of a big deal, it helped at the time.

Being able to say no to his PI switch was probably his best moment though. That's something nobody else managed to do and he did it with style.

>>153185067
Because Papika was genetically modified with Amorphous fragments so as to be capable of traversing Pure Illusion

>>153195890
He also risked entering ELIPSIS? What you saw what happened with his father all for the sake of others.

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>all this salt bullying

>>153195890
>raise Papika
God bet he enjoyed every moment during that time. The fact he managed to survive that is an achievement itself.

>>153189089
Yes, I loved it from the first shot he was in. He was cool because he was made to be tryhard-cool and the way he strongly contrasted with the rest of the show gave him even more of a presence. They also handled the mysterious aspect of him by keeping him in the background for most of the show.

>>153190265
Did he forget what happens when you cum inside a vagina and how babies are made?

>>153196108
Yeah he always added a sort of cool shadow element to the show.
A hint at a bigger darker something going on.

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Spinoff with delinquent Cocona & Papika pls.

Salt was a good character, sure he has flaws, so does everyone not only he admits he fucked up but he puts himself on the line for others.

>>153189089
As soon as he prostrated himself before Yayaka all was forgiven. We didn't get too much on him but I liked what we did get.

>>153196108
>>153196190
He definitely gave off some last boss vibes early on, but soon after I just accepted him as the smug audiophile that bossed around cute little girls into doing his dirty work. The flashback scenes with Mimi really served to humanize him and made him a character worth rooting for.
>>153191507
>She got cucked by Mimi
If only, Mimi coming back to the real world and Sayuri getting BTFO would've been glorious. The scene where Mimi asked Salt to still think of her as his #1 was too fucking sad.

>>153196902
I wonder what Salt will do now.
He has a cute young intern with a mega crush on him but he's also got a reality warper goddess stuck in another dimension who can travel into his dreams waiting for him.

Surely he can't have both.

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I love my wife, even when she's all grown up.

>>153196966
He'll stick with Mimi, he does have a kid with her after all.
>>153196902
Yep and each time seeing Cocona taken from her was painful to see.

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>>153196975
>Cocona with glasses.
Not enough of her like that.

>>153196199

Papika makes a weirdly good boy.

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>>153197051

She's a cutie.

>>153196975
Favorite artist fanart of them grown up.
It's so cute and fitting.

>>153197095
She looks so great with them. Do you have any with Papika wearing glasses? I'd pay to have her get new glasses or fix them though she looks stunning wearing them.

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>>153197151

I know, right? Yayaka is super cool and sexy as expected.

>>153197151

No sorry. I guess she got too woke and couldn't wear them again.

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>>153197264

>>153197264
You've got some good taste anon, first you like Cocona with glasses then you've got a pic of her in that sweater. God bless you and your waifu.

>>153185067
>did the sales of this go well?

This is the 2nd thread I spotted with a "new" watcher asking about sales. Can't come up with a better excuse to start a FliFla thread?

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>>153196966
>>153197017
I figured the whole #1 comment and Mimi crying as he parted from pure illusion was meant to directly imply that Salt was already in a realtionship with Sayuri or very soon to be.
>a reality warper goddess stuck in another dimension who can travel into his dreams waiting for him
Fuck, I didn't consider this. Imagine a hot night of stirring up Sayuri's slutty undergrad pussy, her deafening moans illustrating their lewd acts for poor little Coconuts in the next room, only to then be visited by Mimi that very same night in his dreams. Tags: femdom, anal, dickgirl on male, placentacles, male;rape

>>153185912
>>153197361
Not op, but were there any updated sales numbers since then? Both the theatre screenings and amazon LEs sold out, so there might be some hope, no?

>>153197406
Mimi is a futa?

>>153197406
There's no real reason to think it's Sayuri who is important to him though. You can imagine it but Sayuri didn't get to fuck Salt.

>>153197406
> directly imply that Salt was already in a realtionship with Sayuri or very soon to be.

I read it that way as well. Salt's PI having Sayuri living with Cocona fits.

>>153197573
she's living with Cocona in his PI. It's not conclusive but it sure is heavily implied.

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>>153197487
If she wants to be. Hell she could even deage Salto into a shota just for the occasion. It's pure illusion, she ain't gotta explain shit.

>>153185067
>Also was it ever explained how or why Papika never grew up and was always young?

Pure Illusion, ain't gotta explain shit.

>>153197666
I hope Salt is kind to her then otherwise say goodbye to his manhood when he's with her in PI. Wouldn't she make him shota more than adult? She just seems that type to me.
>femdom best tag.

>>153197648
Look at it the other way though, that isn't a place for 3 people. In Salt's world, there's no room for Cocona. And if that's where Cocona ends up, then neither does Sayuri.

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>>153197315

Thanks. She is indeed perfect, despite her flaws.

What does Cocona smell like?

Let the shitposting continue.

>>153198146
Do you think Salt could ever have a kid again without Mimi being the mother?

>>153197764
Not sure I follow. I could definitely see Salt forcing both Coconuts and Sayuri to share the same shitty little apartment with him. The man can't have many funds left after all the R&D put into M.U.S.C.L.E.

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>>153197406
>>153197603

You know what that would mean right?
If Sayuri gets salty Cocona could have a cute little sister!

Good news Yayaka now's your chance, hurry up and reserve that pre order. It worked for Papika.


>>153197487
>>153197666

It's PI, Mimi can do almost anything.
Makes me wonder what sort of cookies and tea she had with Papika during all that time Cocona was stuck in the salt PI.

>>153198146
Those heart eyes, yummy.

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>>153198275
>>153198443
Sayuri telling Cocona she's going to have a little sister or brother would probably set her over the edge considering her abandonment issues. Besides, Salt and Sayuri already have Nyunyu as a surrogate daughteru.

>>153198443
Doesn't Yayaka want to be with Cocona though? She even says it herself her spots beside her. Wouldn't Mimi like to pleasure both her and Salt instead of pegging him because it doesn't seem like Salt would want it.

>S2 with the imouto as mc
10/10 would watch.

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>>153198609

>Doesn't Yayaka want to be with Cocona though?

She does.
Maybe it'll be love at first sight with imouto chan though.

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>>153198674
While Cocona and Papika are off on adventures Yayaka could be nursing the imouto then when she gets older they'll go on adventures together and become a pair.

>>153198777
Cute art.

>>153198389
Oh come on you know Hidaka funds the entire organization by hacking the accounts of a Russian drug cartel.

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>>153198777

This has been my phone wallpaper for ages. I wish there was more official art.

>>153198777
Yayaka onee-chan... I want

>>153198777
Will Yayaka get to age-regress too?

>>153199115
Holy god that Cocona anon. These are blessings that we don't deserve.

>>153199135
I need this in my life, could you imagine how happy Yayaka would be?

>>153198443
So Yayaka gets imouto-chan but who will Hidaka get with? Bu-chan?

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>>153199234

It'd be so heartwarming to see her beautiful smile.

>>153198674
>>153198777
Yayaka loves Cocona, no way she falls for a baby. She's also not in the good graces of Salt, Mimi, or Papika that would get her a child bride.

>>153199115
Cocona looks adorable with that slightly shy pose and her innocent shirt.
But I love the Yayaka service there the most.
Her body is in such perfect shape.

>>153197985
>sugar
it's canon

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>>153199371
> She's also not in the good graces of Salt, Mimi, or Papika that would get her a child bride.

Haah?

She worked along Papika, Salt begged her to save everyone, and Mimi is no saint either after what she did even if she was not being herself.

>>153199439
i mixed it up
>papika = sugar
>cocona = cocoa
>salt = salt

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>>153199371
I'd like to think Yayaka has a pretty warm relationship with Salt what with her saving Papika and his little girl.

>>153199371
>no way she falls for a baby
I'm not saying that Mimi thought the same about Papika, but there's no way she could have seen it coming. You don't know what Yayaka is into. What if the child is just like a tiny Cocona. She'll have to get on that before Papika.

>>153199371
While Cocona loves Papika. >>153199466
Like this anon says. She helped aid against Mimi and saved Cocona from the twins.
>>153199478
That explains why Papika always smells her, it smells very nice but I'd expect her to be smelling Papika if she smells like sugar.

>>153199519
Isn't the the reason Cocona looks like Cocona because she's got Mimi as her mother? Wouldn't the baby look more like Sayuri instead?

>>153199519
Yeah man you never know with those crazy lesbians now.
They can see a little baby and suddenly imprint on her like you didn't expect it and bam, 15 years later they're locking puss together.

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>>153199371

I think babies are just the kind of thing Yayaka would fall for. She's a total sweetie at heart.

>>153199380

She's a beautiful girl.

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>>153199627
Yep, I think anyone would have to be a fool to not see Yayaka as that kind of person, she'd be exceptionally happy.

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>>153199789

Now I'm imagining Yayaka looking after kids sometimes it hurts to live.

>>153199946
This pains me just looking at those pictures. She's probably having the time of her life with Uxekull and being a caring person to him while Cocona is off adventuring in PI

>>153199946
I'd have plenty of babies with her, she could look after them.
She'd be a 2cool4u mom.

>>153200109
>Yayaka pregnant
Don't know how that would be. Would she become a total bitch or become a extremely fragile?

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>>153200066

I know, I think she'd be really happy though. At least for now she can enjoy the quiet life. Uxekull would be really good for her too, getting to look after and raise a cute little bunny would be just the thing after all she's been though.

>>153200149

She'd be her usual independent, defensive, plain speaking self in public, but she'd be super cuddly in private.

>>153200195
As a mom I could see her being similar to Tomo chan's mom.

>>153200195
She'd have massive cravings for sweet bread also.

>>153200294
An angry Yayaka with the cravings is scary. She'd lose her chill and her cool and could get all demanding and angry.
Better have a lot of sweet bread around just in case she wakes up hungry at midnight.

>>153200220

I can see that, but a bit less scary. She'd certainly be quite overbearing and strict and try and get involved with everything. It'd probably be embarrassing if anyone else did it but she'd get away with it because she looks so cool.

>>153200294

That's really cute.

>>153200605
Say goodbye to peaceful nights and sleep and say hello to worshipping. You'd definitely have to stock up for those random cravings and temper but in the end it would all work out. >>153200629
Cute till she demands it randomly in the night like anon mentioned. 10/10 would endure it though for someone as beautiful as she is.

>>153200696
Sounds like paradise.

>>153200294
Nah, she'd crave ridiculous, almost gross things-- like sardines in vinegar, beans, stuff like that.

>>153200733
T-that makes me want to vomit.

>>153200744
It'd be played for laughs tho

>>153200696

> you will never be kicked awake at some horrible time in the morning by a grumpy Yayaka throwing a tantrum and demanding sweet bread
> you will never brush the crumbs off her cheeks before rocking her back to sleep in your arms
> you will never get any sleep because of her snoring (but you'd never tell her that)

It'd be the best thing ever.

>>153200766
God this world is suffering. I'd love every moment of those scenarios, especially the second one after helping her satisfy her cravings.

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>>153200168
Punished Yayaka would make such a great figure. It's just not fair.

>>153200766
>You'll never get to help her when she's got cramps
>You'll never be able to caress her lovely belly.

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>>153200766

It's just not fair.

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>>153200877
Haven't checked yet but is there any decent Flip Flappers figures?

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>>153200877

All Yayakas would make great figures. Too bad we can't have any merch at all. I'll have to make my own with the power of love.

Fuck off with your Generals

>>153200888

> you will never help her walk around as an excuse to hold her hand and tell her it's for her own good when she objects, even though you know she secretly likes it
> you will never have her sit on your lap while you feed her and rub her belly
> you will never give her foot rubs

I'd use it as an excuse to dote all over her. You know she'd love being treated like a princess.

>>153200843
>>153200894

Tell me about it, it's suffering.

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>>153200903
There's a henshin Papika in the works so hopefully we'll get to see it come winter wonfes.
>>153200904
She really does have the best character design out of the lot. Love how her amorphous powers were foreshadowed with those pink highlights.

>>153201103
>>153200904

I'd buy a Yayaka figure and I'm not really a buyfag but I'd fucking do it without hesitation.

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>>153200927
So far the threads have managed to not be cancerous for some reason.

>>153201248
You clearly weren't in the last one. Though the OP invited it with stalker shit.

>>153201264
Of course I'm in every thread, we can't let go. But you can't really judge a thread by the shitposts of anons that aren't interested in the topic. Or it's rather about the community. An anon that is just there to start shit with sales is not a Flip Flapper.

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>>153199106
>Oh come on you know Hidaka funds the entire organization by hacking the accounts of a Russian drug cartel
I'm curious what Oshiyama's official explanation would be seen as Salt definitely couldn't have funded Flip Flap on a professors salary alone. Maybe salt dad was loaded and set up a trust fund but was too fucking bonkers to notice when he started making withdraws.

>>153185067
>Also was it ever explained how or why Papika never grew up and was always young?
Mimi wanted her eternal loli.

>>153185067
>did the sales of this go well?

WE NEED TO FLOP HARDER

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やった！

>>153196108
>Salt
>presence
wat
We're talking about the guy that appeared on screen about 4 times and spoke only during half of them until the final episodes. Everybody had more presence than him.

>>153198574
Cocona probably still doesn't even realize that Salt is her dad.

>>153204082
Even if she talks to Papika about her past and has her explain what happened, Papika might not even realize how babies are made.

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Stop bumping this abomination off of page 10.
>32 IPs
>half the posts are waifu wanking
>unironically using "community"

>>153204352
Papika is weird. She seems like a baka but deep down she has a lot of practical knowledge about certain things.

Her familiarity with the female body might surprise us. She had to take care of Mimi for 9 whole months while they were on the run, after all.

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>>153204621
You are a part of this community!

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OVA when

>>153205243
Never

I still haven't watched the last 3 episodes

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>>153205448
So for you, the series ended with Cocona discovering her grandma was a robot, having a complete emotional breakdown and having her body taken over by her dead mom.

And you're okay with this?

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>>153205518
It has nothing to do with the content, it's just difficult for me to finish things sometimes.

Although that was a nice ending.

>>153205561
>it's just difficult for me to finish things sometimes.
I can relate. I still haven't watched the final episode of Natsuiro Kiseki.

>>153205604
There's an OVA as well, it's in my backlog.

>>153205518
This is such an underrated Papika reaction image. Just the right amount of concern, confusion, fear and sadness.

>>153204621
No

>>153206497
Cute

I still get shivers when I play the ending theme. It's so magical.

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>>153205448
>>153205518
I'm in the same boat, I sat down to rewatch it all after episode 10 and just haven't had the urge to finish.

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>>153206770
It has one of the happiest endings imaginable, just do it.

>>153203858
None of what you just said goes against the reason I stated in my post as to why Salt has presence.

>>153209081
You can't have presence if you're not actually present, anon.

>>153209618
He is present though, the mere fact that we're discussing him as a character could not happen if he were not there.

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>>153204621
>Cocomimi will never stomp on your dick until you cum clovers
It's just not fair!

>>153210030
Evil Mimi was an absolute sex demon, and her in Cocona's body made innocent little Cocona into a sex demon, too.

I think part of what made episode 11 so great was the uncannyness of seeing the scared little girl we'd been following for the whole show suddenly act so confident ad sensual. A different person was in control, of course, but watching Cocona's body language just change completely made every scene with Cocomimi feel so alien.

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I guess it was more popular in the west because those JP bluray sales are depressing

>>153211837
Is that an /a/ poll?

>>153211837
Would it have killed them to run some BD ads in the local paper or something?

>>153212071
There were plenty of ads, people just didn't care

>>153212721
Source?

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>>153204621
>32 IPs
How the mighty have fallen.

without looking at a single shred of evidence I can tell you it did not do well

furthermore I can tell you that whatever aired its season which showed tits and ass, however poorly drawn, sold 10x as much.

again, I have no evidence. I'm just right.

>>153212903
You might be correct, but that doesn't mean you're right!

>>153213001
wait til you see the fucking friends I've made

then you'll know how right i truly am

>>153212867
Matoifags never die

>>153212903
The top seller that season was about gay figure skaters actually, but it's all the same really

>>153213385
Which really just means the tit-focus was shifted to double the ass-focus.

I have high hope for Oshiyama
>loves ISS
>interested in Google glass
>fan of Kubrick
>draws Yuri but not lolicon
>bad childhood but no self hatred
I can really use another sci-fi yuri anime or some 2111 a yuri odyssey

>>153204627
Papika was that way with many things.
It's one of the weird but interesting things about her.
She'd seem clueless or dumb one moment and then suddenly she'd seem wise or knowledgeable about something in an unexpected way.
Maybe it was part of her theme being a rebirthed older than she looks type of character but it seemed to go past just that.
I'm still not sure when she was feigning ignorance or genuinely clueless.

>>153200744
Well, that's what happens when you're pregnant.

I think I once at a while jar of pickles topped with mayo.

I can see her making sweet bread with weird shit like avocado tho

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>>153213925
I think her cluelessness stemmed more from the memory loss than anything else.
She never actually had another "clueless" moment after episode 10. She was at a loss at times, and said some dorky stuff, but never had that same naivety

Her actual personality, without the memory loss, seems to be more like someone who's playful, childish and has trouble communicating, but is actually intelligent, quick-witted and excellent at hands-on learning. The sort of person who listens intently so as to make sure they understand what you mean, and will never forget that meaning once they grasp it.

I always got the impression that she was hyper-aware of the outside world, always sharply observant and intently listening and astutely interpreting, but always struggled to make that relationship a two-way one. She always seemed to have some insecurity about getting her thoughts and feelings across to the same degree that she felt others, and clumsily overcompensated in ways that came across as pushy or childish (daidaidasuki). There was an intense insecurity somewhere inside there that she struggled with while also always trying to appear strong in front of the girl she admired.

The more I think about Papika the more cute she is.

>>153214190
That's actually an interesting way of seeing her, I never thought about her that deeply but it makes sense and I can see what you mean.

>>153213433
You should send them a tweet saying you'd like to see some sci-fi yuri since they seem interested in sci-fi, stuff like that can go a long way
https://www.twitter.com/binobinobi

>>153214424
My opinion matters little even if I got the bds.

>>153214348
I think that's part of why her relationship with Cocona worked so well. It was complicated because Cocona pushed her away, which must have hurt even more than we got to see. But at the same time, Cocona became a sort of bridge that helped Papika into the real world.

Anyone?
>>153195699

>>153214529
Cocona was lucky Papika love love loved her so much and never gave up on her.
She could manage to remain strong with her love and with a smile on her face even when Cocona was so unresponsive towards her.

>>153214522
Not really. Direct fan interaction says a lot about your interest in the work and a suggestion might make them consider an idea harder that they might be floating around. If you're thinking of making something but not sure if people would be interested, a fan coming in and suggesting it would only make it more appealing since you know there must be more interest from people who say nothing and it gives some confidence to the director that they're appreciated.

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>>153214624

>>153214624
>aLWAys
pfft
Just search "litt" if you're looking for LWA threads.

>>153214665
aLWAys

>>153214695
Yeah, no shit. I'm confused why you posted it.

>>153214743
But I didn't post it. I guess anon got reminded FF exist when searching for the next LWA thread.

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>>153214618
Well, to be fair, even when Cocona was "unresponsive" towards her, they were having moments together like this.

It's hard to not be gay when a girl holds you like this after rescuing you from drowning in a frozen lake by shattering the surface at mach speed and pulling you up to watch the sunrise over mountaintops with a 100ft vertical jet of water in your wake. I can hardly blame Papika for reading these scenes and thinking they meant "go for it"

>>153214558
Other than the general premise?

>>153214529
Papika's role is anchored by two promises about Cocona. One she made with Mimi as Papikana to always protect her. One she made with Cocona at the dicktree to always be together and be friends with her.
Unfortunately Cocona didn't remember the promise and soon Papika found out she couldn't really push her feelings if Cocona didn't recognize the promise. So she relegated to being her protector while patiently waiting for Cocona to regain her memories of their promise.

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>>153214869
Oh man you are right.
I'm looking at that and I never noticed just how firmly and closely and lovingly Cocona held Papika that time.
Or how dearly she looked into her eyes too.
They were OTP since ep 1.
Papika must have known all along just how much Cocona could love her, she just knew that no matter how she behaved deep down she was full of tender love for her that just needed to be slowly allowed to come out of her shell.

>>153214424
I'd personally like more sci fi yuri but with the deep themes less in your face and more in the background and a more light hearted action focus and standard anime storytelling instead, while still retaining an episodic nature like 1-9 but with enough plot split among all the episodes so the actual plot part doesn't have to come all out at once so suddenly and instead it just feels like a natural conclusion.

I also don't want one girl to be left alone hanging this time around.
If they make another Yayaka at least give her a happy ending before the show ends, please.

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So it's likely we won't get another season?

>>153215596
Yeah Cocona was gay as hell right from the getgo. Knowing her own feelings (and not fully understanding them at the time) was probably one of the reasons she kept pushing Papika away.

Conversely, when she pushed past her inhibitions in episode 1 and went to save Papika, she was probably so overtaken by the moment that she didn't even realize how intimate she was letting herself be.

They establish that dichotomy in her character right from the beginning. She lives in extremes of denial and indulgence of her baser desires, resisting until she caves and it all pours out at once. I thing it was really cool that you could see her becoming more moderate about that throughout the show and as time went on. She didn't just stop repressing herself, but learned to express her earnest desires in healthier ways

>>153215870
All of the dramatic and character arcs are over, so no.

>>153215886
I did notice her growing up to be more willing to express her feelings and take action as the show went on, but I must have not noticed those bursts of inhibition.

You're still full of surprises Cocona.

>>153215697
Watch Koukaku no Pandora then.
I'd say the issue with FLFL is it being so not-in-your-face deep that almost nobody can tell there is deep stuff while I have to fish my uni library 3 times to find all the reference books.
Oshiyama said all the deep stuff was presented in space dandy fish episode but after 5 Jung books and 10k words essay on FLFL I can't even tell what's going on in the fish episode. Damn Oshiyama has got some perversion in hiding deep shit in who knows how many layers of pure illusion.

>>153216046
What I mean with Flip Flappers is that the deep stuff wasn't just references or allegories but in some cases they seem to drive the plot or be important parts that led to how something was presented.

I'd personally prefer if those were more like after touches you could still spot and were still consistent with the show but weren't the reason for things to be the way they are.
If the show could still have a consistent and logical direction without them around.

Though I've been meaning to watch Pandora for a while, people seem to have mixed reactions towards it so that has kept it in my backlog for now.

>>153216243
Pandora is great. Go watch it right now.

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>>153216010
Some of the more notable flips take place through her eyes, so rather than seeing her change, you see the world change around her in an almost expressionistic shift in perception.

Episode 4 has a great example. She chases after Papika but can't keep up because she's clumsy and not athletic. Rather than calling out to her, she just gets pouty and gives up. But, when she wanders off on her own, the island suddenly shifts into this dark and hostile place with a red sky and high-contrast colouring. Her body language just recedes inwards, suddenly afraid to engage with the outside world.

it's easy to read it as just Cocona being scared because she's alone now, but I think it also represents how she becomes conflicted over even something minor like running through tall grass to play with a friend. When she rejects herself, it's like the whole world is rejecting her.

>>153215419
Dream-like worlds and literal dreams are not the same general premise.

>>153216320
This kind of hits a bit too close to home because I've had to deal with many issues like that myself.
Feeling alone, scared and left behind can really make the whole world seem much more hostile and dark than it is. And withdrawing can come as a natural reaction to that, but that just makes things even scarier and worse.

Cocona was well written. She sounds ralatable in a real sense.

>>153215586
Are you cataloging the genga from daily screenings?

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>>153216495
>She sounds relatable in a real sense.
Cocona is my spirit animal

>>153216562
No, I'm just the messenger.

>>153216243
Pandora seems to exactly match the wording of your criteria. Granted it's not the greatest of all time but in this niche it's among the greatest.

>>153189089
Shota Salt was cute desu

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>>153216243
Pandora is a low-budget yuri sci-fi cyberpunk mahou shoujo set in a hyper libertarian pseudo-utopia. Most of the criticism comes from people that couldn't get around the budget or who just couldn't swallow the offbeat blend of genres and ideas.

It's actually amazing, though. One of the things it does exceptionally well is situate a cute little story about two gay girls in a much larger, darker and more nuanced world of noire-esque political intrigue, economic disparity and social problems. Despite having so much going on beneath the surface, it never loses sight of the fact that it's a cute show about cute girls, and even when the final arc blows the lid open, it continues to manage being cute and gay all the way through.

It never loses sight of what it is and never lets the darker plot get in the way of the uplifting tone, which is part of what makes it so amazing. Despite not liking it as much overall as Flip Flappers, I think it handled the balance introduction of underlying plot elements much better.

And Nene is just the cutest gosh darn yuridork that you ever did see

>>153216932
Pandora's got the dark undertone because its manga author is the original creator of Ghost in the Shell. Pandora's got yuri because its writer, Tatsuya Takahashi, is surprisingly a long-time colleague of Yuniko's on works with yuri undertone (IM@S, Natsuiro Kiseki, Aikatsu, Kinmoza, Locodol). But overall Yuniko has a better handle of intricate portrayal of yuri.

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>>153215886
>Knowing her own feelings
There was an entire episode halfway through dedicated to trying to understand what she felt, she definitely didn't know at episode 1.

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>>153217412
>IM@S
>yuri undertone
Anon...

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>>153185067
>did the sales of this go well?

>>153215870
Given the type of artist passion project it seems to be, and the finality of its conclusion with everything wrapped up neatly, no. More importantly, it didn't sell very well, so absolutely 100% no.
Maybe if it took off and sold phenominally like Madoka or something and executives meddled hard then there could be some follow-up seasons or movies and other stuff, but that isn't the case.

>>153217542
To each their own but Yuniko approached it with a yuri agenda. Though her agenda is even not the same as what most yurifags would recognize.

>>153217473
I worded that poorly. I meant that she felt something, not that she understood what she felt.
Even if you don't necessarily recognize the feeling right away as attraction, you can still feel attracted to something or someone. You can't feel something and be unaware that you're feeling. I figure Cocona probably kept over-reacting to Papika because she felt those warm fuzzies and didn't know what they meant. She was afraid of being swept along by her own emotions before she fully understood them.

>>153216932
That sounds really really appealing to me, all of it.
I have to watch this now.
It sounds like exactly the kind of show I'd like.

>>153217412
>manga author is the original creator of Ghost in the Shell
No that would be Koshi Rikudo as the current author. the series was originally an anime project that Shirow was working on but was later shelved, but later on gave it Rikudo to use rather than let it collect dust.

>>153217676
The producers said in the talk show that during planning he had trouble explaining this shit to all the sponsors because the shit is too confusing. I think they had the kakugo that the show was made to flop and then "why not also add yuri to make it cultier and flop harder?" so Yuniko was approached by the producer to write the script.

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>>153217705
>Cocona probably kept over-reacting to Papika because she felt those warm fuzzies and didn't know what they meant


She gave me the fuzzies every time that happened.

>>153185067
>Flip
>>>/int/

>>153217807
Those meeting must have been hilarious.

I just imagine Oshiyama, in a seifuku and skirt for some reason, entering arm-in-arm with Yuniko like they're a gay couple(hetero), flopping a copy of "The Great Mother" down on the desk in front of a half-circle of business suit-types and saying "Then, shall we begin?"

>>153217796
Well what you've described is all Shirow's idea.

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>>153217720
It was a good time. I feel like a lot of the same anons watched Flip Flappers, and not just because of the yuri.

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>>153217910
She gave me the fuzzies each time they were together.

That is a lewd flower pic anon.

>>153217980
Including the part where it becomes a Scifi mahou shoujo staring a couple of yuri dorks?

>>153217959
Your mind is strange, but I like it.

>>153218201
Shirow can't go 20 pages without drawing lesbian sex, anon. They probably had to make his scenario less gay in order to air it on television.

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>>153218246
At least we didn't have to deal with Shirow's greased up balloon titty designs.

So who's getting paired with Hidaka anons?

>>153218666
His autism.

>>153218666
His waifu.

>>153218666
He's probably got a sex-doll body for Bu-chan for when they're both feeling a lil' lonely.

>>153214190
this is actually the way I have thought of her as well. Its good to see I am not the only one.

Why is this still around? I thought it went down the shitter.

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>>153219142
Shows what you know.

>>153219214
It's the Hand Shakers of last season, right?

>>153219285
You must have brain damage if you think Hand Shakers is AOTS.

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>>153219142
The characters are like onions. We keep peeling in deeper and deeper.
Some of us never even grasped them entirely while watching it the first time.
It's crazy.
So much more nuance and characterization bits that show us about the characters inner nature than the cute girls in most shows.

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>>153219285
>(You)

>>153219285
I don't see any similarity, even in a meta-sense.

>>153219331
Well, of course not. Neither was Flip Flop, as I stopped following it after episode 3.

>>153219364
Meta what?

>>153219349
Not him, and I agree with you for the most part and love the depth that seems almost omnipresent in the show. Almost. I still can't work out the meaning of Nyunyu, even when asking around in these threads. Do have any insight into her character and role in the show, aside from obviously just showing us that Yayaka was replacable? Because if that was it, I don't feel it was necessary to give her so much screentime or even make her into a full-blown character (especially with how shallow she ended up being).

>>153219549
Obviously nothing in the actual shows are comparable, so maybe you were comparing the fanbases or the shows' role in the lineup of seasonal anime, which I feel aren't similar at all either.

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>>153219577
>I still can't work out the meaning of Nyunyu
The deepest, darkest secret. Mankind will not be able to understand her purpose until we deciphered Harappan script.

>>153219349
They tried to make this show episodic with a mysterious overreaching plot, but even Kemono Friends does it better. This show can't into basic narrative structure, and relies a lot on plot conveniences to keep it going.

>>153219840
I love your confidence in the writers.
Have they made all of the Dead Sea Scrolls public yet? We're gonna need them for the Nyunyu case study research paper.

>>153219901
>basic narrative structure
elaborate
>plot conveniences
such as?

>>153219942
>elaborate
Apparently any story where you don't have to use your brain because characters are sure to remind you of every important plot point as soon as it becomes relevant.

>>153219840
She was supposed to make Yayaka unneeded & useless in their sect only to later become the most useless character ever introduced herself. It's justice.

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>>153218666
You have 11 characters with a couple odd choices, feel free to draw your pairings

>>153219913
I was reading the voynich manuscript the other day and it had a lot of interesting stuff to say about Nyunyu. I think this mystery will keep getting deeper as we dig for years to come.

>>153220067
The crazy girl from the Mad Max world would go well with him. Both lunatics and batshit crazy.

>>153220067
Granny was a robot, right?
I wonder how she and Bu-chan would get along.

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>>153220029
Well she did help Bu-chan with getting to use his muscle mode.

>>153220218
Granny wasn't very friendly though, so probably try to kill precious Bu-chan.

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>>153220373
Pyuu!

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>>153220029
She was also used to confirm the amount of fragments that were put in the pillar.

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>>153220067

>>153185912
>The sales were not a complete and utter disaster
The first BD sold 883 copies and the second sold 795. For an anime original series, it's terrible. If it were part of a franchise (say a manga, LN, VN, game adaptation/tie-in) it would have still been fine since it mainly serves to only advertise, but we're talking about an original series here.
The saddest part is that there were quite a couple successful animators like Takashi Kojima and Kiyotaka Oshiyama who worked really fucking hard on some episodes to make scenes look breathtaking.
Overall it was pretty obvious that after making a few anime series with really low sales, Studio 3Hz wanted to make an original anime break-out hit but it totally backfired.
However it sort of looks like Flip Flappers has received a good following in the West so as long as the localized home video release does well here then it isn't all that terrible.

>>153220068
I heard some guy broke down Nyunyu's official character summary into binary and input it to the Antikythera Mechanism and he disappeared, we should look into that.

>>153220671
>Overall it was pretty obvious that after making a few anime series with really low sales, Studio 3Hz wanted to make an original anime
There was a committee behind it that paid for the series.

>>153220195
>tfw you will never live on a desert planet in your own private oasis/roman bathhouse with an entire harem of gorgeous BDSM slaves
We even live?

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>>153220735
Just make one in your basement. It's really easy.

>>153220671
>so as long as the localized home video release does well here then it isn't all that terrible
Are they actually releasing it over here? I was under the impression that they wouldn't bother localizing it with such poor sales/success. I'd be ecstatic if they did though, I want to own the series but don't speak moon so shelling out so much money for two paperweights doesn't interest me (especially since they don't count international purchases in the BD sales figures, so it's not really supporting the series).

>>153220569
The crazy desert girl with Bu-chan?

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>>153220067
Everything else is fake news.

>>153221046
She was clearly attracted to him, girls just don't sit on your face unless there's something going on between the two of you.

>>153221270
Bu-chan's not gay tho

>>153221362
did you just assume xir gender?

>>153220671
>The saddest part is that there were quite a couple successful animators like Takashi Kojima and Kiyotaka Oshiyama who worked really fucking hard on some episodes to make scenes look breathtaking.

It's fine, it's ok.

They were part of something magical that we will never forget.
They could have worked on some successful but forgettable seasonal show or a simple adaptation that never amounts to more than the source material.

Instead we got a unique blend of anime flavours all packed into a unique package that even if flawed it was still great and will be hard to ever forget, a show that's actually worth rewatching multiple times in the future.

>>153221270
Your face is fake news.

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>>153221362
And Hidaka is not a pedophile. It's just pairings, no one said anything about fucking. TT and the rabbit are best friends since ep4.

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>>153220067

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>>153221718
While you're at it, how does x264 10-bit do with this shot?

>>153221821
Yayaka x Uxekull is OTP

>>153221850
It's 4.01 MB. I'm looking for an alternative host.

>>153221046
He literally jizzed from getting abused by her.

>>153222094
So you're saying he also enjoyed getting attacked by Nyu?

>>153222094
I'd compare it more to a nosebleed

>>153222018
>>153221850

Fuck the rules, Hiro. 8ch has no 4MB limit.

8ch
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The whole episode is 451.861MB with my current settings.

>>153222302
Wouldn't you?

>>153222857
Don't know if getting beaten to the point your body is broken is fun.

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>>153223032
DELET

>>153222678
The encode is alright.
>4MB limit
Use an optimizer
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/199989

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>>153223032
Stop this! Cocona is with Papika!

>>153223032
What you don't see is Papika laying beneath them, cock buried in Cocona and face buried in Yayaka.

>>153223176
Papika don't have a cock.

>>153223205
Mimi can if she wants though.