Is it possible to make anime be produced in America?

>>>/co/

If the dollar crashes and suddenly labor is cheaper than in Japan.

>>152589275

Hand drawn animation is dead in USA so no.

>>152589275
You guys can't even make decent kids cartoons

>>152589943
I remember when Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon use to actually broadcast original cartoons.

>>152590001
Even then, It didn't last and only a couple of them were actually good.
Japan has been shitting out quality anime since the 60s.

>>152589275
Avatar was pretty great, so sure. Though I'm not sure where or if they outsourced their animation
Rwby is alright, though not my demographic at all.
inb4 their not anime

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>>152589275
You already have this.

>>152590228
>quality
an oversaturated market where 20 or more shows are released a season, reusing the same cookie cutter formula that another show used prior with only a handful of good ones that standout
>quality

>>152590228
you mean bruteforcing out quality anime

CN makes a new cartoon once a blue moon if they get bored of whoring out of whatever they have right now, meanwhile it's impossible for a human to watch all the animes within one's lifespan

>>152589275
No.
Only France gives a shit about animation in the west.

>>152590257
>Avatar
>half of the work went to Korea
Should have made it in the US. How can you train new generation of American animators if they won't even draw the basics?

>>152590295

I've seen Steam Filmmaker Porn with better animation.

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>>152589275
Thank you for making me imagine politically correct anime. It made me realize what we have right now isn't THAT bad.

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>>152590460
>politically correct anime
Please stop. You're giving me nightmares.

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>>152590460
>>152590487
You don't have to imagine, just watch Miyazaki films.

>>152590298
>20 or more shows are released a season

You mean 40+.

And majority of everything is shit. Games, books, movies. Majority is always crap.

>>152590351

All of Avatar's animation was made in Korea by studios that are usually used to outsource anime.

Literally no real animation was done in USA.

>>152590552

If it was American half of the cast would be black and all bad guys would be white blondes with blue eyes making Hitler speeches.

>>152590487
>SJWs
>putting the effort to make anime
The best they can do is bitch about people not respecting the nazi loli's pronouns on the internet.

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>>152589275

>>152590690
>bitch about people not respecting the nazi loli's pronouns

This can't be real.

>>152589275

It is by definition impossible unless the US annexes Japan.

If you like Voltron and Legend of Korra, sure.

>>152590658
Thats racist anon.
You need to include a token latino and a girl to show how progressive America is. Shove in a chinese dude so we can cater to their market as well.

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>>152590808
>unless the US annexes Japan
boy have i got some news for you, anon

>>152589275

No, because Japanese culture and language plays a pretty large part in making anime what it is.

We could write over-the-top quirky characters, give them big eyes, and make them half-naked, but it still wouldn't be the same product, especially if we wrote the original script in English. Just like anime isn't Disney.

>>152589943
Protip: Most american "cartoons" are animated in Korea

>>152590359
Not surprising, since some SFM porn makers put autistic amount of effort into their works.

>>152590780
Of curse it is.
Tumblr thinks she is a trans dude.

>>152592000
So are most chinese cartoons.
Thats irrelevant.

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The art style would look too strange, even people in America that know how to draw often draw anime in a slightly strange way. If there was an American anime, the animation methods would differentiate it too much as well. I would be curious to see how American cultural and political influences would absolutely ruin any anime that was made here. No way to make an authentic or interesting product when different interest groups and demographics are constantly breathing down your neck.

What kind of elements from the japanese style would an American anime even retain? I know they certainly would go for moe or the SoL elements. It would probably just be gutter-tier shonen garbage with a large dose of forced diversity and pandering that would make even the beta harem stuff the nips sometimes make look original.

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>>152590300
99% of anime is trash
half your life is spent finding the good 1% of anime, the other half of your life is spent watching and shitposting about the 1% of good anime.
As long as KyoAni exists, there will always be good anime

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Would /a/ buy an American-made Keit-ai?

>>152592616
Yes

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>>152589275
No.
Even in the 60s and 70s most cartoons were produced in Japan.

>>152589275
Maybe if it was hentai, then it might actually sell.

>>152590776
The only correct answer posted so far.

>>152592759
That wasn't produced in America.

>>152590865
Which is what?

>>152592786
No wonder it's so good.

>>152592616

Only if you make them cheaper than the xiaomeme

>>152592437
>forced diversity
Saying that something is "forced" is just code for "thing I disapprove of" - same goes for "politically correct" or "artificial difficulty". It's what people say when something goes against their believes yet they can't quite articulate why it's wrong/bad in logical terms.

>>152592562
LWA saved anime.

NGE is literally the best.

Watch Boko no Pico you faggot.

No, cause murrikans only like cheap flash animated "artistic" scribbles that are fun cause of references.

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western produced media that try to emulate manga artstyle still have a distinctly western look to them

even if the designs are spot-on, the movements, facial expressions, and tiny nuances make if feel off
probably cultural differences
unless the studio producing it grew up in japan or lived there for a significant amount of time, i don't think it's possible for "anime" as we know it to be produced in America

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>>152592923
To be completely fair, they totally would be willing to be diverse. Not pictured is the Sailor Scout in a wheelchair.

>>152592923
>"It's what people say when something goes against their believes yet they can't quite articulate why it's wrong/bad in logical terms."

I'd have to disagree with you here, there have been several cases in the west where some sort of television or show or movie was made to have a certain kind of cast at the behest of some executive or focus group, in that case it is very much "forced". Just take this one, for instance (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/cbs-nancy-drew-will-be-854972)

>"CBS Entertainment president Glenn Geller revealed Tuesday that the network's reimagining of the iconic character will be diverse."

Is that not a clear example of some form of executive meddling in the west for the sake of diversity?

http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/07/media/marvel-diversity-iron-man/

>"CNN spoke with Marvel's director of content and character development, Sana Amanat, to get an inside look at why and how the company has diversified its iconic heroes"

I don't mean to go on to long about the subject for obvious reasons, but the claim that accusing something, especially a hot button issue like race or ethnicity, of being "forced" is just some form of insecurity or incoherent dislike is just not true. This doesn't mean the presence of a diverse cast is always forced or never makes sense in a setting, it's just that in many cases it is, but I guess that's just my fragility speaking isn't it?

>>152593250
>Shantae
>anime
Is just me or people have the tendency of considering "anime-like" everything that don't look like a marvel comic or the fairy goodparents.

Hopefully not, Americans are thin skinned faggot that gets offended over little things.

>>152592562

Truth.

>>152589275
No, because the only things that differentiate anime from western cartoons are their styles and countries of origin. Take anime out of Japan and you have an eastern-stylized cartoon.

>>152593321
the design is obviously manga inspired, even moreso after the artstyle shift

>>152593307
>to have a certain kind of cast at the behest of some executive or focus group, in that case it is very much "forced"
Every single casting ever is the product of conscious decisions. Explain the difference between casting someone who's explicitly a white male and casting someone who's explicitly a black female for a role that doesn't require a specific phenotype to work with the script.

>This doesn't mean the presence of a diverse cast is always forced or never makes sense in a setting, it's just that in many cases it is
Having a "diverse" cast is exactly as "forced" as having an all-white cast because it's always a matter of choosing one or the other. What's the drawback of a diverse cast anyway? Why list it as a negative?

What do you guys like about anime (or Japanese media in general) over western media?

>>152593908
>What's the drawback of a diverse cast anyway?

The diversity of a cast or a group is often used in the west as a means to obfuscate from the low quality of a product by making it appeal to prominent ideological sensibilities in modern day America. It would be like if a shitty show from the 1940s talked on and on about fighting the reds or the nazis. The ideology associated with the move give the product a certain positive connotation that can hide its shortcomings. A recent example of this was the recent Ghostbusters remake, although that's not saying much since almost all movies are awful.

>"Every single casting ever is the product of conscious decisions"

I don't believe you got what I was saying when I mentioned casting. If one is creating a cast that has a certain makeup do the nature of the film or media that is being made, it can make sense and retain legitimacy. On the other hand casting somebody to adhere to a common political ideology (diversity is inherently good) rather than for the show itself could potentially hurt the quality of the show. Both forms of casting are conscious decisions, but the motives behind them and their influence on the product that is made mean a great deal.

>"Having a "diverse" cast is exactly as "forced" as having an all-white cast because it's always a matter of choosing one or the other."

I certainly don't see many production studios or companies making white casts for the sake of "white identity", but there are myriad examples of contemporary studios making films or casting decisions for the sake of the abstract political ideologies associated with diversity in a way that is obviously more "forced". One must realize the motives behind them, and what those motives represent, and to simply try and make the two actions equivalent just because they're the result of a conscious decision would prevent one from seeing the full picture or motives.

>>152594703
I've watched it for most of my life, and I still can't really grasp completely why I like it. I've watched it so much that many live action shows make me uncomfortable in some ways. Perhaps it's some desire for escapism from the real world. I guess one reason for me liking it is due to the often episodic nature of the anime that I watch.

>>152589275
> anime
> production too expensive

I think Otaking is proof this is pure nonsense
you just need someone of talent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU

>>152593285
Not really, both markets are very different.
In fact most of the shit the west finds novel on cartoons has been in anime for decades. Yaoi, yuri, traps, cripples, betas, etc. they are all ingrained on the anime industry and the japanese know how to make use of it.
For example, If america made a cartoon with a cripple character everybody would praise it for being progressive and shit but when japan does it they are a bunch of creeps banking on cripple moe. At the end of the day the anime would sell millions and the cartoon would get cancelled after a few episodes.

Why do so many cartoons have such awful art styles? It's painful to look at.

>>152595232
Much unnecessary camera panning and close up movement. Close ups look like fast forwarded. Still image background and static character would've been enough in most scenes.

>>152593250
That's because completely faithful anime/manga styles don't sell that well in the west, you might think it does but it doesn't, that's why most anime like porn artists
in the west kind of mix their styles and go for something that has a bit of west in it, people who pay at least prefer them, there are artists that have very authentic styles, but they are not very popular.

>>152595751
>faithful anime/manga styles don't sell that well in the west
>thick tumblr doodles does
What is wrong with the west?

>>152596239
I don't know anon, but it is what it is, for some reason although there are western artists out there that have pixivs and very authentic styles
people keep ignoring them and throwing their money to people like shadman, who knows i guess they like what they grew up with?

>>152592864
Truly a chinese cartoon.

>>152592923
>>forced diversitySaying that something is "forced" is just code for "thing I disapprove of"


No wonder they's so few chinese in chinese cartoons! Remember Nanking! Apologise to Okinawa!

>>152595751
>authentic styles
I like Errant Story.

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>>152596866

>>152590359
Because SFM is a better program than poser

>>152592437
>slightly strange
As shitty RWBY is, the murican they got to do the character art for the design is fucking great and fooled me for a chink

>>152590776
Korra was a mistake.

>>152596866
Im pretty sure avatar was animated in Korea on a studio that was made to do inbetweens for madhouse or Production IG

>>152592923
When you change some character's race with no aparent reason other than to "diversify" it is forced, what they did to the human torch for example, other way is depicting jobs distribution in an unrealistic way ( sudenly 80% of scientist are black or latino for God's sake), that can get rather annoying, and i'm latino, even i can see that shit

>>152595639
Because to be cheap enough to be still animated in america, it has to be done in flash

Flash is more limited than actually animating, yes, but it can do much better than just Adventure Time's shit art style, just look at wakfu

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>>152597369
The shitstorm at the end made it worth it.

>>152597415
Latin here, and this is so fucking right

I dont mind if you cast Antonio Banderas or other hot latin dude to be the main smart guy or powerful guy, but when you have a team of scientist full of pedros, go eat a dick

>>152597504
Why is it ok for when japan makes raging dykes full of misunderstandings, but when murica makes a decent dyke that actually communicates she wants to glue Velcro its baaaaaaaad?

>>152592000
Spielberg produced 90s cartoons were famously outsourced to Japan.

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>>152595639

Because they're going for So wAcKy!! XD

>>152597615
He also did Korea
The american studio responsible for the editing of Animaniacs has commented how the quality was all over the place because of all the different studios they worked with
They also commented that japan liked to draw Yakko's eyes too damn small

>>152590359
>steam filmmaker

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>>152597575
>holding hands
>a decent dyke that actually communicates she wants to glue Velcro
Truly the most progressive piece of gay fiction since yuri on ice. USA! USA!

>>152597648
>Canadian flash cartoon
>American teenage girl

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>>152597778
Replace mugi with Kirara and "American" and "Japanese" for Canadian for a more accurate comparison

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>>152590295
literally better animated than Berserk 2016

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>>152589943

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>>152598624
>Steven Jewniverse
>Decent

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anime is literal shit. try and prove me wrong. 90% fo anime is targeted towards fucking losers, either horny fat 15 year old boys with harem shit, ugly fat horny girls with host shit, or disgusting pedos with loli shit.

who the fuck watches sports anime? like seriously? kill yourself.

the ONLY good anime that is even possible is action, and even then the majority is shit. ive watched probably 4-5 anime series in my life, and only actually want to watch another 2-3. thats how rare good anime is, the vast majority is just a see of fucking trash.

t. superior white american master race who watches superior western cartoons

>>152598624
Memes aside, steven universe is not good, its stupid at best and boring at worst.
If it weren't for all the controversy around it no one would care about it.

>>152598714
>superior western cartoons
Like Family Guy, South Park, modern Simpsons, and Steve Universe!

The only good cartoon in America right now is Rick and Morty, and it's still an ass ugly show that embodies all of the shit Miyamoto was bitching about with American cartoons (Pink, green, and purple, never draw anything more complicated than something that a 10 year-old could manage). France has a nice anime scene too I suppose.

>>152589943
Come on now, Young Justice and Generator Rex were pretty good for action cartoons. Ben 10 was a fucking travesty though.

>>152598714
90% of everything is shit, anime just has so much more going on that the 10% slice of the pie is bigger in comparison

>>152598945
>Ben 10 was a fucking travesty though.
First one was pretty good, but they should've stopped there.

>>152598945
Generator rex was shit and I didn't watch young justice.
I remember ben 10 being quite good

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Pic related is basically an American slice-of-life anime

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>>152598986
>biting obvious bait
The fuck are you doing niggers

>>152599083
If I worried about responding to obvious bait I'd never post anything.

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>>152598945
>Ben 10 was a travesty

>>152599187
If you can't tell if something is bait or not, you shouldn't post here

>>152599014
>>152599276
Everyone should have known what I meant. The original was great but Alien Force was where it looked promising but got consistently worst after each season. Rook was a gem in a pile of shit though.

>>152590776
I can't believe a cartoon beats most anime in about everything quality related.

how is this shit on topic

Even if studios in Murrika would import Japanese talent to make money (which they likely can, since they can pay better), you would end up with a very limited product since they would have their hands tied by both Conservatives and SJWs, which isn't a problem in Japan (well, not as much).

Just look how crap comics have become (other than them being repetitive shit since the 90s), because of all the forced politics in them.

So, I doubt anyone would want anime produced in America.

>>152590690
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