All hail Satan, Earth's greatest hero
Can't wait for Gogeta to show up in the manga
Why is Piccolo always such a downer
You'd think after fusing with Kami and Nail he'd lighten up a bit
i was actually impressed with episode 74. Our guy finally showed up and whopped some ass. Videl slapped Barry's dick in the dirt so hard he became sterile. A truly good episode.
Just a reminder that the leaks are coming out today.
alright folks Im not trying to be a powerlevel faggot but Id like to have a discussion about power, shitposting to a minimum
lets start with super saiyan transformations
correct me if Im wrong
and here's your cuck being a failure again
ITT: Your perfect end to the tournament arc
>After all is said and done, final round is Goku vs Vegeta
>To counter his SSJB Kaioken, Vegeta has secretly regrown his tail and uses it to transform into his ssjb oozaru form
>Whips Goku for a bit, but ultimately loses his tail
>Goku foolishly allows Vegeta to get the rest he needs to get back up and continue fighting
>Vegeta wins by using an instant transmission final flash, signifying that he is willing to swallow his pride and learn from Goku in order to surpass him
>The final flash is so powerful it destroys 3 planets and a sun. The arena only survives because Zeno allows it. Goku is dead. Vegeta wins, 3-0
>Next arc is about Goku training in the after life to surpass Vegeta while Goten, Trunks, Gohan, and Picollo go on a journey for the Super Dragon Balls to wish Goku back
thats almost as good as pic related
friendly reminder that pic related will be canon
This guy slaps your waifu in the ass what do you do?
That explains so much
>the strongest fighter in universe 7
What does Bulma do to always stay so young and sexy?
No Krillin would probably beat him without using his Ki Freiza force would have shit on Satan.
EoZ Uub was strong enough to hurt Goku,and he didn't seem to know ki control yet. If he doesn't count,there's still plenty of fighters from early DB tournaments who could probably best him.
>we will never have this piccolo again
>tfw even if this stupid-ass fanfiction becomes true, I still can't see them making Piccolo relevant again and would probably just leave him on Earth again just like GT
I don't understand why Toriyama just stopped making Piccolo a fighter/relevant. He, Vegeta, and Goku are the only ones who don't really change character designs/clothes, never age, and are still training. He makes a perfect middle man between light-hearted dumbass Goku and tryhard edgelord Vegeta and could be the one who always gets them to work together instead of Vegeta just always being tsun tsun towards Goku.
Damn, you think the fans would be tired of saiyan shit.
>inb4 they use his meme powerup as a crutch for him
The main issue is the Buu Saga. Piccolo goes from keeping up with the Cell Jrs who were Trunks/Vegeta level in the Cell arc to being referenced as weaker than the base Saiyans several times in the Buu Saga (Vegeta claims that he can win the tournament without turning SSJ, Goku also doesn't seem worried about facing Piccolo without SSJ, Dabura picks out Piccolo and Kuririn as weakest of the party, even though afterwards it's shown he didn't realize the Saiyans had SSJ - the only exception is Buu turning into Piccolo's outfit after Gotenks time runs out, which means that Piccolo is stronger than Goten and Trunks).
Piccolo was only mainly weaker than Base Goku and Vegeta, who continued training during the timeskip. Piccolo seems to have taken the time for some much needed rest. He'd probably still destroy Krillin in a fight but beyond that he's not all that active anymore. He's taken on more of a mentor role for Dende it seemed because he's basically staying at the lookout full time, probably because for the first time in centuries he's finally the Full namekian he once was.
Uub still has a potential, whether or not magic will be related is still in the possibilities, but...
>Would also like to see people get blown out when Pan has a little baby brother and to see that Bra DOESNT EXIIIIIIIIIST though.
What would be the point of it? Why?
Yes, Bra is already pushing the character capacity, but what would change if Pan has a brother? Abosolutely nothing. A character that might either end up as useless and irrelevant as others, taking up space.
Also, what's wrong with Pan being an only child? Goten and Gohan, Vegeta and Tarble, Bulma and Tights, Goku and Raditz, Trunks and Bra. It's overkill already.
I don't think you idiots will ever understand the concept of not training = becoming weaker regardless of your potential
It's like in real life, you gotta keep your gains by regularly working out
All the hybrids technically have higher potential than Goku and Vegeta but they all lack the same passion for fighting so they never train and slack off. Because of this they end up being outmatched by their fathers and they are made to look like jobbers.
The only exception is Future Trunks but he only kept training to keep Earth safe from threats, not because muh fighting strong opponents Saiyan instincts
You reminded me that Piccolo is actually hundreds of years old despite his current body being not much older than Gohan. Do you think he retained Daimaoh's memories and Kami's, and by extension his memories from before he split into two and back on Namek before he escaped? It'd be pretty cool if Piccolo reflects on his days as a demonic warlord and his responsibilities as the former guardian of Earth,as well as thinking about his heritage as a Namek. I'd like to think he does and that's why he's arguably the wisest out of the Z fighters.
It's always a worth a chuckle how many subtle artistic choices are immediately overlooked for the sake of board brevity culture. You are doing that on purpose right? Right? Bueller?
It'll all make sense when kakkacarrotcake leaves his wife and children to be with Virginia, and then the returned Black Goku (or Turles in the movie adaptation to cash on Xenoverse) becomes Chi-chi's new monkey husband. But it was all a dream.
Maybe Toriyama is super abusive to his favorite characters, but that's silly because where in any Dragonball story are people being...horribly...tortured or kil l e d... oh goodness.
>You reminded me that Piccolo is actually hundreds of years old despite his current body being not much older than Gohan. Do you think he retained Daimaoh's memories and Kami's, and by extension his memories from before he split into two and back on Namek before he escaped? It'd be pretty cool if Piccolo reflects on his days as a demonic warlord and his responsibilities as the former guardian of Earth,as well as thinking about his heritage as a Namek. I'd like to think he does and that's why he's arguably the wisest out of the Z fighters.
Mark my words, something totally weird will happen involving this.
>alright folks Im not trying to be a powerlevel faggot
You've succeeded. You are definitely not trying, because you most certainly are.
SSJ1 is times 50
SSJ2 is 2 times 1, so it's x100
SSj3 is 4 times 2, so that's 400.
SSG is unidentifiable, so lets just "assume" it pumps your power to a set bar.
SSB is between 5 and 10 times SSG.
>Briefs family are richest on Earth
>Vegeta ever needing a job
>Also, what's wrong with Pan being an only child? Goten and Gohan, Vegeta and Tarble, Bulma and Tights, Goku and Raditz, Trunks and Bra. It's overkill already.
This. Pan doesn't need a little sibling. Nor the series in general.
Viz has a page for free chapters, where you can find Dragon ball super official translation . Would be nice to see someone rip it.
Is he the only main character in the show who has never died?
>Non-God Powers Mr. Satan casually destroys Mystic Gohan
Truly he is earth's greatest hero. The reason why he's not participating in the Universe Survival Arc is because Zeno would get upset if there's no tension.
>I'm pretty sure
One of the fundamental rules in anime: if you don't see the enemy explicitly being evaporated and/or don't see a corpse, he's alive.
We have no reason to believe Satan died.
>At least Raditz is dead, Tarble lives in another planet and Tights only shows up once in a blue moon.
Yes, but that really doesn't help the cases of other "relevant" siblings that are still here, like Bra and Goten, which leads us to...
>Toriyama should never have introduced Goten and Bra though.
Agreed, I mean, Goten was nothing but a plot device to introduce fusion. Then again, so was Trunks, though his case was more organic and ended up being his own character. Goten still hasn't had that chance. I simply don't know what Bra can add to the roster either that can break her apart from her GT counterpart.
Then some people want Pan to have a brother(or sister)? It's simply pointless. Gohan and Videl fit perfecly with the type of married couple that are content with having just one child.
I think it's better to give more spotlight to the young characters that are already established rather than introduced yet another member into the family line.
I want it to end with EoZ 2.0, where Beerus and Whis are there watching the tournament and the characters have better designs (Bulma and Chichi look less old etc...)
Then any other DBS arc will be set shortly after EoZ, that way we won't have that shit restricting the canon
>No mini arc where Krillin tries to teach Marron Martial arts.
>Krillin teaches her to strategize and use agility
>18 teaches her to kick her opponents when they're down.
What this anon said. He didn't die and come back. That explosion never happened because time was reversed. Mr. Satan wouldn't know he was ever dead as would the rest of the people on earth. He wasn't given life back, he just retroactively never lost it.
I've never bought into the 'SSJ2 is x2 SSJ1' thing the Super Exciting Guide gave
It really doesn't fucking add up. Perfect Cell was holding back on Goku and Gohan (the latter of whom was even stronger). Then when he powered up to full he could still barely scratch Gohan. And then when he sacrificed speed for power-weight he STILL was weaker.
SSJ2 has to be a bigger boost than just x2 for Cell to be left that far in the dust. It doesn't help that the SEG was A) Written in 2009, over a decade since the manga finished and Toriyama was forgetting Tao and SSJ2 were even a thing and B) Aides worked on it and we don't know how closely Toriyama oversaw everything they did.
I'd take SSJ3 being the 2x to SSJ2 and SSJ2 being the 4x boost to SSJ1, that would fit much better in the story (since the leap from SSJ2 to SSJ3 doesn't appear to be that big when you compare performances between Majin Vegeta and SSJ3 Goku against Fat Buu)
>Gohan will never use God ki
>Piccolo will never use his Great Namek form again
>No one will ever learn the KaioKen
>None of them will ever have their potential unlocked by Old Kai
>None of them will ever learn instant transmission
>Every training episode leading up to the tournament will be more SoL shit (which is nice but if they're supposed to be training whats the point?)
So what's the point of this super big boy tournament?
So we've got 12 universes, 10 to make up, and 2 to fill.
Universe 7 already has a line up: Vegeta, Goku, Piccolo, Buu, Gohan, Krillin, Tien, Roshi, and 18 and 17. Out of those about six are jobbers, one is a gag character, and the other two can go just about anywhere.
Either every universe has a bunch of throw away characters to fight the smaller ones, like Krillin and Ten, or the characters will get significant boosts, which I wouldn't bet my life on.
Less time than Gohan's.
Even after beating Golden Freeza, in the manga at least (which was ahead of the anime at this time) they confirm between the two of them that Gohan still has the greater potential between them. They're only stronger because they give a shit about training still.
Yeah, I agree. The QUALITY was top-notch.
so why dont they go ahead and get thrir potential unlocked so that they dont have to use taxing transformations and goku can use the kaioken (canon or not)
unless this unlocking doesnt take god powerups into account
You can use the dance to fuse even if your height and power level aren't the same if you get really good at it, as stated by Toriyama. You can also fuse with just the "HA" portion of the dance if you master it, again stated by Toriyama.
But I agree, Gogeta is probably never going to be canon, and after what they did to Cuckgito I am thankful for that.
Can you see Vegeta or Goku agreeing to keep perfectly still for 24 hours while Old Kai reads porn?
Vegeta would blow his top and Goku would get bored and seek out food an hour in, tops.
>So what's the point of this super big boy tournament?
Some other anon in a different thread proposed that maybe Whis will train them all (considering he has an interest in not pissing off Zeno with a boring competition). Considering training with Popo elevated the humans from barely being in the three digit power levels to all being stronger than Raditz, it's not impossible that Tien ends up surpassing SSJ3 Goku under Whis' tutelage.
Height difference doesn't matter. Toriyama was originally going to have Gogeta up against Boo, but Toei had done Movie 12 at the time so he went for something different involving the Potara.
>What about the concept of the Potara?
>AT: That was simply, since Fusion was a plot point that was already taken by one of the movies, I was wondering what I should do; I had always been drawing earrings [on Kaiōshin], so I thought, “perhaps I can use these”…
>Had you drawn them from the beginning, thinking that you’d use them as a fusion item?
>AT: No, not at all. They were just for decoration.
>>Had you drawn them from the beginning, thinking that you’d use them as a fusion item?
>>AT: No, not at all. They were just for decoration.
I love this so fucking much about Toriyama's writing style. Literally making shit up as he goes along, he really did not give a fuck about it
There's nothing wrong with Multiverse outside of a few Mary Sue moments, you are just being contrarian faggots for the sake of it and hating Multiverse because you think you're supposed to. Fuck off
That sounds like the most acceptable answer, but I can't stand that the other powers will just be ignored at a point like this, it's the best opportunity to distribute them but we won't see shit of course
Assuming this happens (and this is Toriyama we're talking about so I wouldn't bet on it), Goku and Vegeta would still be special snowflakes. It would just mean that all the other characters, who did cool things in the past but became irrelevant very quickly, would get a chance to shine against non-fodder once again. It would mean those characters have a reason to exist other than for the nostalgia bait.
That brings me to a positive comment I have on Super as a whole: I love how Bulma remains relevant despite having zero martial prowess.
>there are people still trying to put numbers to the inconsistent mess that is dragonball powerlevels.
Don't you know already, they're just going to have a civil chat with Zamasu and whoever else, maybe see the inside of the chalet, play some minecraft, talk like proper fused beings should.
Kid Buu killed him
If you count alternate timelines, so did the Androids
A) Freeza killed him when he blew up earth in RoF
B) If we're not counting alternate timelines, then Dende, Mr. Buu (and his dog), Dende, and Supreme Kai also never died
im a fusionfag and im glad he didnt appear even though hes my favourite fusion
i think he should be used for something different when vegeta has to do sily poses to save someone they cant beat seperately and if there no kai around for earrings
also maybe 10 years afte EoZ when new arcs happened and pra and pan are teenagers (assuming both are fighters) they could do pic related
But i CAN STILL DO THIIIIS:
I demand that you date me and therefore rescue me from this situation
>stop misrepresenting my overtures to you, unless you've got a sense of dramatic timing waiting to go off in a few days
Can't wait for best girl to make her grand appearance.
>>there are people still trying to put numbers to the inconsistent mess that is dragonball powerlevels.
Dude, the whole "SSJ tiers = greater power" has been a thing since forever. There is no canon, not even in the movies, no fucking stupid as shit fanfiction of any level, where this has not been a thing.
This is one of the core things the entire goddamned series is based on.
Only super has been so completely fucking retarded that they can't keep this shit straight.
It's dead fucking simple.
cmon bra is a good concept
just gt bra and multiverse bra turned out to be bad
if super bra is good then thats good for me
>You still think Bra is canon!
You're a dumb idiot.
Well, she won't be like multiverse bra or gt bra and will more then likely be all princess of saiyans and a spoiled rotten little cunt who never learns how to go ssj but has an IQ of ten billion or something.
Hopefully she won't be as much of a slut as her mother or uselss fucktard like her father.
>tfw waiting for new transformations to add
multiverse tournament arc can't come soon enough
>There will be no leaks until Thursday since the leaker who usually leaks the korean scans didn't do so this time. So we have to wait for the Japanese release(which is the 21st) or hope someone leaks the korean scans.
>They'd hate it, just like Goku disliked the SSG.
That got retconned. In Super, in both the anime and manga, Goku didn't hate SSG and enjoyed the powerup. Always hated that change, BoG was perfect.
If Freeza had learned to unlock his Golden form back when he was still at his old power level (fighting Goku on Namek), what's the strongest opponent he could have beaten following that arc?
I think he could have beaten the Androids but Semiperfect Cell and beyond would be too strong for Namek-saga Golden Freeza
Chi-chi raised Goten on her own for seven years while he was off learning how to turn SSJ2 and SSJ3 in the afterlife. Gohan did get raised by Goku before the Saiyan Arc, but after that Goku spends a good deal of time away from him until the Androids Arc starts up.
I wish the city stayed on fire during the fight with Zamasu, it was more interesting to look at
Well considering the Golden form works like Gohan's Mystic form, in that it unlocks your latent potential/draws it out/whatever, Freezer would have been able to BTFO pretty much anyone even back then. Even disregarding that, it takes a lot of training to unlock that form, so if Freezer had reached that level of power he would have been higher than anyone regardless
Oh fuck off, I say Frieza/Freeza/Freezer depending on my mood. Maybe try to stop getting so triggered over people spelling something different you stupid piece of whiny pissbaby trash.
All of em are jobbers to the greatest champion of earth Jackie Chun! Martial arts is the only life for him!
>The 10 strongest fighters in Universe 7
>Only one of them identifies as female
>Isn't even strong on her own merits like Chi-Chi or Videl, she relies on a man's enhancements to her
Um, does this seem a bit sexist for anyone else? I realize DBZ is more of a boys club but we seriously can't do better than 10% female in the lineup?
just finished the original series
tien shinhan > general blue > piccolo jr. > tournament > king piccolo > emperor pilaf > fortuneteller baba > commander red > red ribbon army > wedding dress
tien shinhan vs goku (tien shinhan saga)
piccolo jr. vs goku
It's just an excuse Toriyama used for not making female ssjs. The true is Toriyama doesn't think highly of women. To be fair, no one on Japan does, not even female writers. See shoujo/josei.
>The true is Toriyama doesn't think highly of women
>thought this was some shit someone on deviantart make while using Toriyama's art-style
>it is an actual thing
>Toriyama actually wrote, drew and published this
he was going through a weird time back then huh?
Zamasu was like a Dragon Ball villain dyed in the traits of the best Yugioh villains. That's why he was the best.
>he was going through a weird time back then huh?
Yes, he was triyng different kinds of stuff back then.
Toriyama "not thinking highly about women" is just a meme. The himself admitted he mostly comes up with strong-willed women, but detests writing romance and mushy stuff.
>but detests writing romance and mushy stuff
And ironically DB's romance is pretty fucking good.
Gohan and Videl, Krillin and 18,
Goku Black and Future Zamasuare pretty good couples
He does manage the pairings very well, even if his reasons to pair two characters range from weird to random.
Here's another bit: Trunks x Mai is the only pairing he admits to write with a romantic touch, something he always tries to avoid, yet it successfully avoids to not be mushy. I'm still amazed on how the popularity quickly exploded in Japan,
He also composes the Super OST which borrows stuff from Buu Saga Kai as well
He composed this 10/10 theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXHTJ-snUKQ
There will also be a bit of a shakeup in the series’ staff. Most significantly, and due to the series’ musical controversy in 2011, the musical composition will be taken over by Norihito Sumitomo who most recently composed the score for Battle of Gods. Rounding out changes to the music department, Satoshi Motoyama will be joining veteran Yukio Nagasaki as audio director. Additionally, all three of the series’ producers will be new to the franchise, so it will be interesting to compare this to the adaptation of the previous story arcs. As expected, veteran series animator Tadayoshi Yamamuro is listed as lead animator for both the new opening and ending animations.
Official high quality version of Desperate Assault fucking WHEN?
>There is no completely uncensored version of the DB and Z English manga anywhere
Why is this?
You have to work to achieve miracles my board brother, and have you worked for such a wonder? And I ain't talking ink to paper. Outside the script phase.
THIS LOOKS LIKE A JOB FOR DIO.
Is Norihito Sumitomo /ourguy/?
>ironic considering that's easily the shittiest pairing in the show.
I highly disagree. They turned out to be a match in heaven.
>Fucking Bra and Pan together would be better. One of the best things coming out of this DB renaissance.
Hey, knowing Toriyama, and his odd pairing choices, it wouldn't surprise me if he actually goes that way, but it had to be Bra>>>>Oblivious Pan to have a hook.
Or him coming up with an OT3 for her.
Do you idiots even remember what /ourguy/ means? It means a character or person who would use 4chan. Sumitomo is not /ourguy/. Toyotaro is not /ourguy/. Calling Zamasu or similar /ourguy/ is funny because he's a caricature of /pol/.
>the forced trash
Here's the thing, newfag: every damn couple in this series was forced due to weird ass reasons, except maybe Krillin x 18.
And guess what? Trunks x Mai was a sucess as well, so deal with it.
>Trunks x Mai
I like it too. I disagree with people who say it's forced, it felt pretty natural for me. It's also funny how it was pretty much a joke at the start, but they are actually a good match.
Again, I wasn't implying Pan x Bra is a good pairing you illiterate triggered retard. Try comprehending words before inserting yourself into conversations well above your pay grade. i.e. anything that uses words larger than three letters.
It's...that's not... you really... no... I...ow.
You're kinda not seeing the big picture yet. I mean you're right but...put more effort in. Zamasu has something left to show us.
Trunks x Mai isn't even that forced (like Vegeta x Bulma) if you read Toriyama interviews from when BoG was released. People seem to think he made Mai young for the sole purpose of pairing her up with Trunks, but that wasn't the case.
He was all like "now that I made her young I'll also include some romance story to spice things up". And they ended up matching up very well.
>What is reading comprehension
I'm not going to spoonfeed you my comments a third time, you stupid piece of shit.
What kind of drugs are you on? I want some.
I'd say I accept your concession, but since there's nothing being argued I don't even know what you'd be conceding, so just kill yourself instead.
That guy is the same retarded Vegettofag who is still mad that Trunks killed Zamasu instead of Vegetto (notice how he always calls Trunks "Sturankusu" or some dumb shit like that), so he always hates on anything Trunks-related because of his butthurt.
>I'd say I accept your concession, but since there's nothing being argued I don't even know what you'd be conceding, so just kill yourself instead.
>Believing he's accepting a concession
No man, your tears are tasty, keep crying.
Trunks x Mai is GOAT.
>vegito is canonically the strongest character in the entire db series
Take a second to let this sink in.
This might be confusing to some of you, but allow me to explain. Vegito has only twice appeared during times of dire need of the denizens of Earth, once during the fight with Majin Buu and the second during the fight with Fused Perfect God Zamasu. Each time Vegito has been shown to the viewer, he has vastly overpowered the main antagonist of the arc, without any doubt whatsoever. There has never been any point where the power bestowed upon this monumental fusion of two of the most powerful beings in the universe has faltered in any way, shape or form.
Due to this reasoning, during any time of extreme urgency by the onslaught of a merciless adversary with no victory in sight, Vegito will appear. Vegito will absolutely decimate his opponent, while making jest of the situation. Due to this unfortunate trait in his personality, the job will never be completely finished by Vegito himself - it will always be up to some token hero to save the day. To make a side-note on this, one can theorize that Vegito would be easily able to compete with the likes of Beerus, and possibly even Zeno, if they turned into enemies for some reason.
Unfortunately, none of this matters because
at the end of the day he's still a jobber.
>Trunks x Mai is GOAT
I'm mad about everyone in this thread being illiterate, not the stupid pairing.
For the fourth fucking time: reading comprehension. I'm thinking you need to just apply for kindergarten again because you clearly learned nothing in school other than how to not be intelligent.
>vegito is canonically the strongest character in the entire db series
Putting aside the gods and the angels, that is.
But yeah, that's why his appeareances must be little and only use them wisely.
>Vegito would be easily able to compete with the likes of Beerus, and possibly even Zeno
>actually, unironically thinking this
>gohan got to do stuff for an episode
>now for 50 episodes of Gohan doing nothing again
At least they showed Videl can still fly. She is truly best girl.
>He just leaves the fight
>Pretty sure Beerus and everyone above him still could have whooped Vegito
>Putting aside the gods and the angels, that is.
Again, doubtful. But I agree with your second sentiment.
>actually, unironically thinking this
It must feel pretty bad to actually, unironically be wrong, all the time.
Vegetto and Merged Zamasu were both stronger than Beerus. Kaioshin said Zamasu's power was unfathomable and in a world of it's own, and Vegetto stomped him like he was nothing
The DBS producer also said Merged Zamasu is overpowered. I don't know about being strong as Whis, but they definitely pass Beerus
>HURRR DURRR Reading Comprehension
Anon, you're the one that is failing to understand that you're the one displaying your shit taste. Do people here have to make you a drawing for you to get it?
Typical Cuckgitofag. I thought I was done with you retards.
Clearly you didn't, and still don't, or we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Because I don't like shitty, forced pairings? Kid Trunks and "Kid" Mai were fine, but suddenly creating a fucking future version of Mai in a separate timeline from the main where none of that shit ever fucking happened is the definition of forced and if you think otherwise you're incorrect and also a moron.
Why are you retards referring to me as if I'm the only one who calls Trunks different variations of "Mary Sue" as if you've never seen it before? Are you all that fucking stupid?
post things that trigger you
>Kaioshin instead of King Kai
>Mr. Satan instead of Hercule or Mr. Hercule Satan
>great ape during transformation sequences
>boo vs buu
>It's unreal! It's unfathomable! It's too much!
>suddenly creating a fucking future version of Mai in a separate timeline from the main where none of that shit ever fucking happened
>Gowasu also said his power was unreal
He also said at one point that Goku's power rivaled Beerus's, which is hilariously inaccurate, and he had no idea Zamasu was an evil dickhead. Gowasu is retarded. I love the motherfucker but he don't know shit about shit
>filler episode where Vegito and Goku, perhaps during a lull in the tournament discuss the same recurring nightmares they've shared since fighting Zamasu
>Like Solar Flare delivering naked Frieza into our unnoticing eyes, this majestic beast haunts the last of the Saiyans of Universe 6
>It always starts with Zamasu and Black fusing and then...
>Then the true nightmare begins for our heroes
>He is their spirit animal and he thinks they done fucked up bad
>Like, really bad.
>You totally don't even know
Yes, I'm aware of this manga page that was put out well after the original Kid Trunks x Kid Mai pairing in the BoG movie, you fucking idiot.
How are you all this goddamn stupid? It should be illegal.
Gohan spent most of his time with Piccolo and Krilian and his pet dragon.
Goku was off training somewhere most days.
Let's be honest about three things here.
Everything gohan knows about ki and fighting he learned from piccolo. Hell he even learned how to be a good father from him.
(I pity his son, but with the way future trunks turned out he might not be a total asshole to him)
And everything he learned about the kamesenin style, everything he learned about how to survive in battle and fight against overwhelming odds and control his ki was from Krillian.
Piccolo has spent more time raising Gohan as a father then Goku.
Gohan learned the Kamehawave from fucking Krillian!
He said that because Goku said "The last god I fought was Beerus-sama" and Beerus confirmed it. So he thought Goku's true power rivaled Beerus since he survived. Rewatch the episode.
Gowasu may have been an unknown hero in this damaged universe DB has become, have you overlooked whole universes erased by an unstable child god and universe warping time travel?
Are you really this fucking stupid? Do I have to spell this out for you?
That piece of shit manga page came out to make the introduction of a Future Mai seem less forced. It didn't, unless you're a fucking retard, because it clearly only exists because SHE exists, and SHE only exists to force a pairing that makes no goddamn sense.
This is your last (You). There's no arguing with someone stupider than a box of rocks.
You can just watch the episode you moron. Now I know you lost, you know you lost, stop being a faggot and just admit you're wrong. I'm not posting screenshots just because you're too stupid to go to crunchyroll and see for yourself.
Your point fell apart a while ago you goddamn retard. He didn't say he felt Goku's power equaled Beerus', he guessed it because Beerus said "yes he's capable of fighting me". So your entire argument of "Gowasu can't sense ki properly" fell to shit.
Christ you fuckers are brain damaged.
Stupid as fuck marysue bullshit on the same level of the spirit bomb sword that everyone including the super writers are desperately trying to make everyone forget.
They litterally would not let him have a fucking ultra saiyajin 2 form or even go SSJ3 because they are litterally all faggots and were terrified of chasing off the nonexistant fujos that were OBVIOUSLY watching.
>source my ass
It never ceases to amaze me how fucking stupid Vegitofags are. If Beerus stomped Vegito with a flick of his fucking tail you retards would just cry and say "b-but he wasn't f-fighting s-seriously"
No, it came out to explain why she was young in the future because people kept asking how it happened. The wish fits perfectly with everything else that was happening at that moment. You're just being a retard saying it makes no sense because you hate the fucking pairing.
It is forced.
Like or hate the pairing, I don't fucking care, but it's forced. Future Mai exists solely to be paired with Future Trunks and to say otherwise is to admit that you're fucking deluded. Creating a character to pair them with another character is horrendous, atrocious, abysmally fucktacular writing.
would Dragon Ball Super be saved if Launch returned?
You're just as retarded as him though. There's nothing that says Beerus is stronger than Vegetto. We have characters saying Merged Zamasu is stronger than Beerus. But you have the audacity to say they're wrong just because it doesn't fit your fanfiction
You people are why this fanbase sucks. It's full of jackasses who have their head up their ass and can't admit when they're wrong. Even going as far as to deny canonical statements from the creators and in-universe explanations
His Mary Sue bullshit was quickly defeated, and lest you forget he probably gave Zamasu the even more monstrous boost by hitting and ultra adapting immortal fighter with the equivalent of a Genki Dama even as it murdered his ass dead. Trunks helped kill his own timeline.
>but suddenly creating a fucking future version of Mai in a separate timeline from the main where none of that shit ever fucking happened is the definition of forced and if you think otherwise you're incorrect and also a moron.
Holy shit, is it really that difficuly to you to understand that Future Trunks and Future Mai obviously met under different circumstances?
That's it, faggot. You have proven to the moron here.
WHERE CAN I WATCH FUNIMATION DUB ONLINE ALL I GET IS THIS KAI/JAPANESE TRACK BULLSHIT
>Vegito was only using 10% of his power
Still waiting for your source, Cuckgitofag.
Also Zamasu fucking said that about SS2 Goku. "Surpassing the gods" isn't a fucking milestone considering they're weak as shit barring the GoDs and their angels.
Chi-Chi and Videl both existed solely for someone to pair Goku and Gohan with.
And Yamcha existed solely as someone for Bulma to ride off into the sunset at the end of DB. Which she actually did.
I like how you're the one who made the statement saying the characters on the show are wrong, and then have the gall to demand proof when it's your job to show proof since you made the claim.
Google debate yourself you retard. Holy fuck, this place is cancer. People like you actually exist offline.
Where I can download Dragon Ball Super?
Please don't bully
>Even going as far as to deny canonical statements from the creators and in-universe explanations
Like the one that says Vegito is stronger than Beerus? The one that doesn't exist? Is that the one you're referring to, you stupid piece of rockfuck brainshit retarded dung?
His ultra adapting bullshit was handwaived as "LEARNING HOW TO FIGHT FROM FIGHTING GOKU FOR REASONS THAT DONT ENTIRELY MAKE SENSE!!" and a deeply flawed understanding of what Zenkai's are and how useful they actually are and how they became totally irrelevant during trunks saga.
Gowasu and Kaioshin both say Merged Zamasu's power is unfathomable and they never felt anything like it. Both know how powerful Beerus is
Vegetto stomps Zamasu.
It's not rocket science you jackass. Now go claim the show is wrong and you're right like the head up ass autist you are
Yes, and that is shit writing. I'm not fucking defending it. But at least they had characterization to a certain extent. Future Mai was nothing beyond "Oh Turankusu" *blush*
Just admit that you lost and stop crying about it.
>Complaining about one forced pairing out of all of the forcing pairings in Dragon Ball
>Said pairing happens to be Trunks x Mai
Just admit it anon, are you a fujo? Or maybe a buttblasted Trunks x Pan fag? We'll understand.
Are you implying that they've sensed Beerus going all out? Using the full extent of his power? Because that has not happened one single time in the show, and they've never implied that they've been around in a situation where Beerus was forced to go all out.
You're so fucking stupid it's giving me a headache.
>Just admit that you lost and stop crying about it.
You lost you idiot. The show is proof you lost. End yourself. Burden of proof is on you, you're the one claiming the show is wrong, provide screencaps or shut the fuck up
>Are you implying that they've sensed Beerus going all out? Using the full extent of his power?
Yes you idiot, it's been shown since Beerus first appearance. Old Kai and Kaioshin both know how powerful he is, and said his full power will destroy the universe
Try actually reading the dialogue next time you inbred fuck
Well, in the manga, of fucking course she only talks about Trunks. He's the only other person alive in that timeline. She has no one else but him.
In the anime, she is the leader of the resistance and is always risking herself to save more people, she's not just "muh Trunks" all of the time.
Again, with the whole "reading comprehension" bullshit.
Listen fujotrash, you'll never win on this unless you finally admit that your reasons for hating Trunks x Mai are just from pettyness and being insecure. So you can keep posting if you want to, all you have been saying until now can't count as "arguments".