Fate Apocrypha

>>151825866
Yes the books where pretty shit.

>>151825866
The point is to let Sumenai stop being shit. Among other things.
I'm looking forward to my half-mermaid queen and "her" fortress.

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>>151825942
>The point is to let Sumenai stop being shit.
>jobs to Mordred
>jobs to Karna
>kills himself

Impressive

>>151825866
Maybe not. Looks fun and with interesting characters. People will like it.

>>151825866
Probably not "Grand Order"-shit, but the novels get pretty bad. Can't wait for Extra though.

>>151825866
>make Apocrypha thread.
>put word "shit" in OP.
>???
>profit
Call me once there will be proper thread for Apocrypha.

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Oh an anime for it was announced?

Good.

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>>151825866
Does it matter? It has Fate in it's name people will worship it regardless if it's good or bad.

>>151827873
The other half will call it shit regardless if it's good or bad for the same reason

>>151827873
Apocrypha is not well regarded and was seen as that one really bad entry until GO happened.

>>151825866
>Fate spin off
>Will it be shit?

Do you even have to ask? Didn't you learn anything in the last 10 years?

>>151825866
The only way for it to not be shit is if the producers choose to kill Sieg and use his death for Astolfo's character development.

>>151825866
It's going to be decent, but grossly overrated, while actually good things slip under the radar. Just like the series has always been.

>>151829127
Strange Fake and el-Melloi Case Files are great so far, faggot. Apocrypha and GO are the only outright bad ones.

>>151825866
Well its better than Stay/Night at least.

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>>151829011
>tfw they adapt Apocrypha before Hollow Ataraxia

>>151826060
He starts off hot and then jobs.
F/GO Sumenai is already a jobber.
Anime Sumenai will be his sacrifice.
A vicious, but necessary cycle, isn't it?

>>151825866
Naturally

>>151830815
Low level bait, SN will never be surpassed as the original and peak of the franchise.

>>151830896
Hollow Ataraxia would be fucking terrible, be it a TV series, OVAs or movies. It was made for a VN, it's not good without all the SoL scenes and there's far too many to adapt. Even selecting a few would just creat ridiculous tone shifts with the main story.

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>>151827831
> Fate GO Next Order will portray a non-shitter version of Jeanne

man, if only Sieg wasn't around in Fate/Apoc.

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>>151834177
The reason I'm watching FGO is because I want to see Sensei animated, possibly along with OP Caster Cu Chulainn. Cu was cool as fuck in Caster mode. I do not care if he prefer to be summoned as Lancer.

Too bad, first Order was shit tier

>>151828061
Exactly.
>>151825866
>fate
>not shit
Pick one.

>>151834465
And the rest will have the same level of care put into it (or even worse) because that's what a trashy mobile game deserves. Just go look for fanart and doujins if you want to fap to the waifus, they're certain to be better quality than whatever anime you get.

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>>151834800
I wouldn't pass it off, since the storytelling picks up in Murica and towards Babylon, and finally the Last Order.

>>151835079
Maybe, but not really worth it when the main protagonists suck ass.

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>>151835130
I'd like to think that Fate/Grand Order isn't about Ritsuka's journey, but the servant's themselves.

Mashu and Dr. Roman.

MC's just there to be poster boy, and be support.

Much like how DW treats their players, the players are underappretiated, but the servants are well appretiated, some over appretiated.

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Why do people keep saying Apocrypha sucked? and in Vol.2 and so far its been pretty good.

>>151835357
It starts good but the end is shit supposedly. They also switch the MC to a bad attempt at copying Shirou.

CLUSTERFUCK OF THE YEAR

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>>151834465
We won't see CasCu again, and will have to wait until America to see Scathach and Cu again.

I am more excited about Camelot and Babylone, King Hassan trashing Gawain under the sun so hard he gave him PTSD was good.

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>>151835463
Anon, if they ever animate the side events, we'll see Scathach faster.

Fate Apocrypha is kind of devoid of any intelligence whatsoever, but fuck it. At this rate we'll get Strange Fake by 2020

>>151835582
Really, GO would be AOTY if they just stuck to the events.

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>>151835805
>there are waifufag whales who actually believe this

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>>151835805
or Gudako as MC, because she already has a good existing personality.

Grand Carnival Phantasm when?

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>>151835763
Hope, I'll live long enough to see my main man animated.

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>>151835934
>Gudako isn't the protag of FGO
>Mamo isn't the protag of Fate Extra
>It isn't Fate Extra CCC aka Umineko done right

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>>151835463
Looking forward to that most of all if all of GO is eventually animated.

>>151835934
This would be appreciated.

>>151825866
Fate is shit overall. It's the same 'tournament' over and over.

>>151825866
It looks like shit, so yes

>>151835934
>or Gudako as MC, because she already has a good existing personality.

Do you people really convince yourselves of this retarded meme just to pretend your arbitrarily contrarian hipster opinion is anything but that?

There is zero difference between the two protagonists and by DWs own stats, the male one is overwhelmingly preferred by the playerbase. That's it. Just because you read a webcomic where the character acts nothing like in the game, it doesn't make it the character's personality real, especially since the few scenes where the main character's input is actually meaningful wouldn't work with that meme character.

You want to know what the female protagonist is like? Make the male one's voice sharper, replace all references to gender for female ones and there you go. That's literally what you're going on about.

>>151836444
t. hasn't watched more than 1 entry in the series

>>151836863
Eh, the Fate GO protag can be replaced by a log for all they matter. Might as well make them a cute grill.

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>>151825866

It will be good until Sumanai dies and Sieg comes back to life.

>>151837297
this desu

>>151837187
This way Nasu can squeeze in non-degenerate romance though.

>>151835934
For the last fucking time, Riyo Gudako isn't canon.

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>>151837593
As it should be.

>>151837593
Also wanted to avoid just being nothing but memes a bit too.

>>151837667
Zelretch killed Crimson Moon who himself prepare to fight CG. If remember KnK Spiral Paradox, we can assume Zelretch was Counter Force pawn too.

This is the first time in a long while that I've hoped the director rewrotes the story during the adaptation process.

Hell I'd be fucking content if it even managed to just reduce Sieg's screentime and made the ending somber instead of having the dragon and grail escape shit.

>>151838039
This. In fact, Zel in FSF seems to want to prevent ORT awakening and fucking up that timeline, he clearly works in favor of the Counter Force.
Him helping to build the Grail is not an action against humanity, getting it corrupted in the first place was an incredibly uncommon ocurrence, and the CF won't go after every single link in a butterfly effect reaction, it only stops the extinction event when it actually happens.

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Reminder:
Fate/Strange Fake is translated
>http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/378-Fate-strange-fake

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>>151837922

At least in the beginning, Mashu has free time with Gudao.

>>151838134
I wonder when it'll start to turn to shit. Narita is really good at establishing a large cast with some interesting characters and playing them off eachother, but fucking sucks at writing a conclusion and plotting long-term character development arcs.

>>151838181
That pic is missing a lot of servants who are hot for Gudao's dick.

The Fate franchise has been pure putrid garbage for over 10 years. Why would this be different?

>>151838217
You mean all of them if you pull them and level them up? They all have flat, uni-dimensional personalities and their only character development is beginning to lust for player character because there is no effort put into GO's writing.

Sieg was the biggest fucking mistake.

I'll watch half of the anime.

Semi's semis are the only reason to watch this.

>>151838134
right now Fake seem pretty good, but i'm stucked with the manga.

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>>151838217

They're below a certain threshold though for sanity. Then again, Serenity is a bit misplaced there.

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>>151838182
I hope never. And setting is pretty different, so I don't thing he can fail.
>True Servants
>DA
>Counter Force cocks out of nowhere
It's too good.

>>151825866
Nah.

It will be good even if solely for Mordred and Astolfo getting animated.

That alone will make it all worth it.

>>151838217
Halloween event notes those three as the most tenacious. Literal would swim through lava levels of lust.

>>151838302
>You mean all of them if you pull them and level them up?
It's more like 1/5 max tbqh.
>They all have flat, uni-dimensional personalities and their only character development is beginning to lust for player character because there is no effort put into GO's writing.
In My Room lines? Sure.
In the actual Orders? Nah, after Septim DW and Nasu got their shit together and started putting effort in. Guda/ko is still just a self insert with minimal personality because of the nature of the game but the side-cast get some more effort put into them.

>>151838307
I'm only going to watch the second half for Kiara/Mordred and Amakusa pulling the greatest bullshit possible out of his ass to keep his plan going.

>>151838383
Making Aclides half-Avenger was a fucking mistake already. Just give us Archer Herc already, he might've required some of these ultra-OP Servants to actually work together for a while. Plus therea are actually enough to take 12 of his lives without just GoB spam.

>>151838134
Who's that dashing motherfucker?

>>151835934
Gudako MC would have the same dead fish personality Ritsuko (or whatever name they gave him) has
if you want the meme character you should hope for serialized anime with her doing the episode pvs.

>>151825866
>A-1
>Doing a Fantasy Series
But hey maybe them butchering the canon like they did with NnT will be good.

>>151825866
>Hey, let's have fourteen servants fighting each other. That'd be awesome.
>Then lets make this random homunculus protagonist and give him all the power ups.
It never had a chance to begin with.

>>151838463
>it's OK because it gets better later on
>making a self-insert for fat otakus who just play it to fap to waifus is "the nature of the game"
Yeah, no shit. Sasuga FGO apologists, you're all waifufags who wouldn't care in the slightest if Nasu decided to scrap all of the Nasuverse and just made a spin-off with Servants on a beach vacation for the rest of his life.

>>151838383
That just makes me more certain he'll fuck it up to be honest. The fact that he's piling on so much stuff to raise the stakes instead of taking a more leveled approach has me worried that the breakneck pace will end with a trainwreck.

>>151838302
Is this how you console yourself about not being able to read it?

>>151838540
Don't forget the part where his incredibly bland romance is supposed to be the emotional backbone of the story.
>>151838547
Why are you so mad about a game you're clearly unfamiliar with? Is it really some great sin to have a gaiden game for the franchise in your eyes that it overshadows every other aspect of the story?

>>151826060
>jobs to Mordred
Wasn't this really Sieg? He was dead at that point.

>>151838571
Not him but
>can't actually deny anything he said
Good God FGO really is irredeemably shit.

>>151838630
> Is it really some great sin to have a gaiden game for the franchise in your eyes that it overshadows every other aspect of the story?
Absolutely.

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>>151825866
Well, it has Mordred so that's something. And pic related are fun so it won't be complete shit.

>>151838666
These three should have been the protagonists tbqh. If Sieg's story was cut entirely and Siegfried himself was given the role, with him plus Jeanne and Astolfo being the antagonists, the story would have been far better.

Following a nominal villain squad trying to save the world in their own fucked up way while the actual heroes try their hardest to stop them would be a lot more interesting than the shit we got.

>>151838767
I really don't understand the point of Sieg.

>>151838630
>Is it really some great sin to have a gaiden game for the franchise in your eyes that it overshadows every other aspect of the story?
It's a bit of a stretch to wave it off as a gaiden game when it's probably made more money than anything else Nasu has ever done. It's never going to go away and if Nasu wants money he'll probably direct effort away from his other projects towards FGO.

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>>151838349
>You will never see Raikou get into a catfight with other tittymonster servants over Gudao

>>151838831
I'm convinced he was meant to be a self-insert for teen boys.

>>151825866
Undoubtedly.

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>>151838929
>You will never embrace Mary lovingly, shouldering her weight as she collapses and sobs in joy over having found someone she can touch

>>151838767
Nice. I like that.

>>151838831
Playing devil's advocate for a moment, I kind of get the idea. I mean, homunculus have been a part of the Fate/ franchise for a while but we have never really gone in depth on the subject. In that sense, a character like Seig was not a bad idea in theory.

This just really wasn't the proper story for him to take center stage. It already had too much character (and characters) so he just feels tacked on.

>>151838929
You're right, because in actuality she'd try to vaporize them with lightning.

Post Astolfo.

>>151839042
Even better.

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>>151839021

It'll be okay.

>>151839021
I put my hand on hers without even thinking about it.

Fucking CHRIST what is wrong with me?

>>151839050
t. Gudao

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>>151839021
>>151839078
Cute.

>>151839085
You long for death?

>>151825866
>fate
yes it'll be shit

>>151838941
Wouldn't exactly be a first; at first glance Shirou and Shiki are both basically typical self-insert characters. They did have more going on under the surface though.

>>151839208
It still blows my mind that Nasu thought Shirou made for a good self-insert. Shiki had his moments of insanity, but besides that he fit the bill quite nicely. Shirou was just wrong for it though.

You can't expect people to properly self-insert as a sword-autist with such a unique set of morals and s pre-established history that plays a major role in the story, except for maybe in the sex scenes since all of that becomes irrelevant and he just sounds like a standard ero protag with a bit of a seafood kink.

>>151839102
I'm sick of seeing Gudao.

I want fucking Gudako!

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>>151839391
Luring in her prey?

>>151839414
>I want to fuck Gudako!

Fixed.

>>151839430
>tfw fucking hate Liz but love Carmilla (except for her outfit)

Why couldn't Nasu just have had her fully grown from the start?

>>151839439
Well, that too. I mean, who wouldn't.

Apocrypha has the best overall cast of servants in a Fate spin off so far. You can't prove me wrong. It's also the only one that doesn't rely on FSN fanservice.

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>>151839414
If I give Gudako money for Quartz, can she sit on my face in exchange?

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>>151839492
GIf you don't genderbend than lolify. I guess Carmilla was made when they decided to make her 5% closer to the actual person.

I bet she's only smug when's she's in her bdsm outfits.

>>151839532
You are correct to a degree, it has some FSN service. Sure it doesn't rely on it, but neither does FSF (which also has fanservice for almost everything Type-Moon has ever done). Unless you count re-using Gil as fanservice.

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>>151839414
You'll get more Gudao, and you'll like it.

>>151839532
>Apocrypha has the best overall cast of servants in a Fate spin off so far.
That's kinda cheating considering there's more than twice as many as usual.
It's also wrong since GO exists and cheats even harder.
>It's also the only one that doesn't rely on FSN fanservice.
Mordred my man. Shirou too, for the first two volumes before the reveal.
Unless you actually meant 'relies upon' instead of 'includes', in which case this is also wrong because Extella and CCC exist and besides shared designs are wholly unreliant on F/SN - though I guess you could argue CCC relies on Extra which in turn relied on SN, thus disqualifying it.

>>151839652
It's not just reusing Gil, he's the main character of the thing. Apocrypha is in the same universe, so it makes sense to have some fanservice, but it's the one that separates itself from the rest the most.

Keep in mind I'm not saying that it's a bad thing. SF is overall very separate, and it explores parts of Gil that haven't been shown before.

>>151839656
Fuck you!

Gudako will not be silenced!

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>>151839656
I love images like that.

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>>151839744
You can head on over there anytime anon.

>>151839704
GO is barely a story, so it doesn't count.

Apocrypha doesn't have that much more servants than the usual spin-off. FSN itself had 9 different servants, Zero is the only one that had the "usual" 7. Extra had a lot more than 7 too, and so did CCC. SF is shaping up to have 14 I think too.

>>151839787
That is the proper thread to discuss waifushit and Grand Order. This is an Apocrypha thread, with comparisons to other (legitimate) spin-offs allowed.

>>151839744
Go over there friendo, no one's forcing you to stay here.

>>151839820
Apocrypha has 16 servants, how is that not more than usual?
>>151839845
lmao

>>151839845
Is there anything worse than butthurt mini mod wannabes?

inb4 people who reply to them.

>>151839820
15 with Watcher. And Sayaka can summon more than just Richard, right? Or was that changed from the April Fool's thing?

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It has my wife in it!

>>151839845
It's all Fate shit anyway, who cares, man.

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>>151839753
>Gudako will not be silenced

How will she even speak up without a voice?

>>151839874
You said more than twice as many as usual. Apocrypha has a lot, but it's not that much bigger than most spin-offs, and the quality of the cast goes beyond the amount.

>>151839855
>>151839874
>>151839875
>>151839922

>>>/vg/164604939

>>151839901
FGO is distinctively smellier shit.

>>151839878
>Daddy issues

>>151839878
i fucked you're wife

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>>151839877
Three volumes in and she hasn't swapped out Richard, so they're probably gonna stick with him.

>>151839877
I remember reading that it was changed. It's sad because it could've been an interesting idea, but at the same time I feel like it's for the better of the overall story. It would have been just a fanservice showcase, and we have FGO for that.

>>151839532
>Apocrypha has the best overall cast of servants in a Fate spin off so far.
>It's also the only one that doesn't rely on FSN fanservice.
>doesn't rely on FSN fanservice.

Its central cast is essentially all absolutely terrible stand-ins for the FSN cast that end up being really bland at their designated roles, since they're doing nothing more than going through the motions without any of the actual development to back it up.

Sieg is so unpopular he might as well not exist, Vanilla Jeanne's lack of popularity respective to Artoria is an actual running joke in the franchise, people only began giving a shadow of a fuck about Amakusa after he showed up in FGO doing something besides being Discount Kotomine.

Shakespeare's foppish ass inevitably ends up playing second fiddle to Andersen since they fulfill the same role but the latter is leagues more entertaining at it, if the London chapter proved anything is that Mordred is only good in measured portions because she gets old real fucking fast, Jack is really not much of a character at all, Siegfried is so vanilla he is best known as a meme now, Fran says AAAAAAAA a lot and the least said of the french faggot filling in for Rin, the better.

>>151839947
Are you okay?

>>151839539
Yui?

>>151840013
I wouldn't be so sure, it's been a long time but the story hasn't advanced THAT much. And Narita is character-addicted. If he gets bored or has no idea where to go next, he'll just make a new person. And Ayaka's servants are a prime opportunity to do that, literally whenever he feels like it.

>>151840033
Oh yeah, if the stays like this it's for the best, we already have more than enough.

>>151840086
Yes, just doing my job to keep any normal Fate threads from waifu autists who don't want to stay in their proper thread.
>>>/vg/164604939

>>151839385
That's the point. It's a bait and switch. You come in expecting generic self insert and get blindsided by a swordfucking robot/anemic serial killer.

>>151840166
>don't want to stay in their proper thread.
So if I want to talk about Gilgamesh from FSN, I just can't up and post in a FSF thread?

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>>151840166
>Your job

>>151840166
But rockstar-wannabe crusader Saber is the best.

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>>151840013
Why Richard is so unpopular? In Fake seems something more than a simple Male Arthur. His obsession is interesting and his personality is not as boring as Arturia or male Arthur of prototype.

>>151840268
Yes, that's related to Fate. Posting about your favorite titty goddess or self-insert protagonist genderswap who have no character and only appear in a mobile game, while also adding nothing to any sort of disccusion is blatant shitposting that belongs on /fgog/

I wish Vlad had lasted longer. He was the second best character after Achilles.

>>151840394
So the fact it has an anime and is now related to /a/ doesn't count to you?

>>151840458
Anon, it was waifuposting, plain as day. Did you actually read any of the posts I linked? Why come shit up an Apocrypha thread, with ongoing discussion about strange fake and others, when you can just do the exact same shit in your cancerous general?

>>151840550
Oh, so we'll just ignore the waifuposting as long as it's from Apocrypha. Got it.

Thanks for your time.

>>151840454
In which volume does he die?

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Astolfo is going to be best boy/girl right?

>>151840624
>why won't you let me post my waifu here?
>you already have your own thread
>oh, but you can post YOUR waifus here?!!
???

>>151840703
Best girl (male).

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>>151840360
Japs have terminal shit taste.

>>151840805
Or maybe we all have shit taste

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Post your favorite Apo girl.

>>151841395
She was already posted on >>151840703

>>151839532
Extra's cast is much better.

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>>151841395

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>>151841395
You posted her. Rapist elf is the best.

>>151841431
Not at all. I'd say it's the worst, unless you take CCC in consideration.

>>151841531
Even the chinese Saber rip off is entertaining unlike those shitters from Apo.

>There will never be a spin-off showing the daily life of the Kotomine family in the Fate/Apocrypha universe.
Why even live?

>>151841866
I still don't know what I think about Shirou having a different VA in this.

>>151841395
You already posted her so I can only praise your excellent taste. Shiro is a lucky bastard.

How do I stop fapping to Mashu?

>>151841950
By getting the fuck out of this thread.

>>151841950
Start fapping to Gudako instead.

>>151841950
Fapping till you kill your dick and can no longer get an erection

>>151841990
makes sense

>>151842000
maybe

>>151842022
almost there

>>151841894
He's not Shirou.

>>151842055
Sure he is.

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>>151834067
>Low level bait, SN will never be surpassed as the original and peak of the franchise.

>>151835357
Basically Apocrypha was pretty good until the last volume, which was utter shit.

>>151842075
Damn right.
But seriously, he has already appeared in Grand Order which is fairly popular in Japan. The western fanbase is probably the only one that will be really surprised by the reveal.

Post Gudako.

>>151843213
>>151842075
Sieg is voiced by FSN Shirou's VA.

>>151843061
Nice low effort post. The fact that you didn't post whatever you think is better is because you know everyone generally agrees FSN is the best.

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Why is Mordred so adorable?

>>151843383
>The fact that you didn't post whatever you think is better
I don't need to say a specific one since literally every other Fate story is better than the original.

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>>151843234

>>151843482
Yea, OK secondary-kun. Don't forget to buy some more quartz for the next event :)

Just watched Grand Order anime and it was the same waifu crap, asspulls, powerlevels and idiotic love power boosts that plague Nasu's writing.
Is Fake good? I already know Apocrypha is beyond redemption.

>>151844030
Apocrypha is really good.

>>151843342
Actually he's voiced by Kenichi Suzumaru, because Jeanne was voiced by his wife

>>151844030
Grand Order's story isn't supposed to be good. It's just a means to introduce several waifus.

>>151844030
Read CCC. It's the best Fate series Nasu was written.

>>151844030
Read CCC, DDD, mahoyo, F/SF
>I already know Apocrypha is beyond redemption.
Try to form your own opinion. It's not so hard

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>>151840166
>>151840166
>>151839947
>2 hours
Like a clock.

>>151845313
post this again please

Is Sieg as bad as people say he is?

>>151845753
More.

>>151845753
Moar

>>151845675
People just bitching anything on Apocrypha. Don't believe everything you can hear.

>>151825866
Trailer looked cool

>>151845675
The vast majority of /a/ has not even touched apocrypha, and the sole reason it gets so much hate is because someone posted the pictures of the ending, gave a description to go with it (which could just have been BS like what happened when Mahoyo came out), and then lots of people on /a/ just concluded that the story was shit from that. Don't believe what anyone says about it, and form your own opinion when you can.

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>>151845980
Blame the translations being so slow. I think a lot of people, including myself, would have read it already if it was fully translated.

>>151845980
Do japs hate it as well?

>>151846079
>no top half
What a fucking slut.

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>>151846129
>boys wearing a top part
You're a dingus anon.

>>151845980
This anon understand everything

>>151845675
I don't hate him, just don't care for him. He's boring and bland like your average LN harem battle MC.

>>151846079
puffy perineum

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>>151846235
How many waifufags will commit sudoku when he bears his chest in the anime.

>>151846515
As someone who has had Astolfo as his husbando for 3 years, i hope lots.

>>151846235
It adds to the appeal, anon. Traps wearing bikinis is fucking hot.

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>>151846705
Depends, sometimes i find him dressing boyishly to be really appealing.

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>>151846515
You can't show that smut on TV they will edit him to be more feminine

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>yfw Apocrypha adaptation is just setting up for an original series based on the 3rd HGW

Well, I guess HF would have to be out for the Avenger stuff. But if they want to skimp a bit on that backstory in the movies, this kind of series would have to come out before HF 3.

>>151846856
3rd HGW would be hard to do since there would be two different scenarios, one with Ruler and one with Avenger

>>151846901
Shit, is that really the case in the Apocrypha timeline?
Well no wonder they've avoided doing a prequel that's been set up so much then.

>What the fuck do we do? The version that's most relevant to the main series, or the one with the most waifu cash-in value?

>>151847154
1 and 2 war is okay, 3 only has two different timelines and the one with Ruler was really short because he just made every servant kill themselves then the Nazi stole the grail

>>151844030
Grand Order mostly exists to churn out gag characters and waifus (often at the same time) with the occasional fanwank.

>>151844030
Narita can't write endings so expect to be great then good then shit

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Best girl coming through
Only butthurt anglo fags hate her

>>151847247
The first and second HGW weren't interesting enough to deserve being told, what was explained in FSN is enough. The third we know a lot about thanks to FZ, FSN and FHA, so you could argue it's not necessary, but at the same time you could've said the same for the fourth.

It'd be nice to see it, but I'm not sure it's worth it.

>>151839532
>Apocrypha has the best overall cast of servants in a Fate spin off so far.
Extra/CCC/Extella world-line

You got all the most famous names; Robin Hood, Lu Bu, Cu, Arcuied, Archimedes, Liz, Nero, Tamamo, Redman, Gilgamesh, Buddha, Vlad Tepes, Karna, etc

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>>151847247
Huh, in that case they'd definitely do the Avenger version, and we'd still get the Nazi Master at least. Not to mention Edelfelt sisters.

1 is just a ritual though, 2 could be very fun because we know barely anything other than everyone dies.

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>>151846821
Konoe would never let them edit the face of Apocrypha.

Wait apocrypha is getting an anime?
Source? I haven't been on /a/ for the past few weeks.

>>151847424
>I haven't been on /a/ for the past few weeks.
Why did you come back you faggot

>>151839765
Tamamo bullying should be illegal.

>>151847424
Because going to google and typing apocrypha anime is so hard.

>>151847424
>spoonfeeding retards
You not belong here

>>151847424
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-12-31/fate-apocrypha-novels-tv-anime-announced-with-trailer/.110527

>>151847247
First war barely qualified as a war, second war everyone just murdered each other so it wouldn't make for compelling television.

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>>151847424
Fate anime lately
>Apoc
>Extra
>Grand Order
>Koha Ace

I forget the others, but it doesn't matter.

FGO anime already aired though

>>151847365
Out of those, Robin Hood is shit, Lu Bu is great, Arc is just nonsense and fanservice, Cu is a rehash and his worst representation, haven't played Extella, Liz is fine, Nero is great but being a clone of Saber for no reason trumps her, Tamamo a best, Archer and Gil again are rehashes, Buddha is fine, Vlad is his inferior representation, and Karna is in his inferior representation.

Apocrypha has:
>Achilles
>Superior Vlad
>Superior Karna
>Mordred
>Siegfried
>Based Shakespeare
>Jeanne
>Atalanta
>Spartacus
>Semiramis

Some are not as well known, but that doesn't matter compared how well they work.

>>151847353
>second wasn't interesting
Based on what? It seems to be by far the one where most shit went down. They invited outsiders for the first time to fill out the classes, but it got out of end and everyone fucking killed each other without a supervisor. Also ended on the Tohsaka household for a change. Sounds fun as hell.

>>151847365
For me it's 50/50 with Extraverse. Some Servants I really like (Robin, the main 4, Karna), others are just meh or not used to their full potentiall (Lu Bu, Nursery Rhyme, Buddah). Vlad is so much better in Apocrypha too.
Haven't played Extella though.

>>151847487
Koha Ace?
Please tell me more don't play with my heart.

>>151825866
Is the Fate/Prototype OVA worth watching? No one ever mentions it. It's only 12 minutes, wondering if it's worth it to just fucking watch it

>>151847512
There would be no plot. It's just everyone killing each other without setup or preparation, with everyone already knowing who is a master and who they summoned. There's no way to make a plot with that.

>>151847576
Go fucking kill yourself you piece of trash

>>151847511
But Karna acts exactly the same, he just has the lame peacock thing instead of a flaming cape.

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>>151847512
>Vlad is so much better in Apocrypha too.
Extra Vlad is great, especially if you listen to his lines in FGO so far. Myroom lines, bond CE, and that one event he was in, he's a fun character. Its just that the original Extra game wasn't really suited to character exploration or development at all.

People didn't know NR was a fun character as well until FGO.

Both Vlad's represent an aspect of the original soul, neither are fake. Its Vlad the noble count and Vlad the crusader/warrior who was a religious zealot.

>>151847599
Woah

>>151847576
It's just an extended trailer of something that doesn't exist. It's fine I guess, but it isn't supposed to tell the whole story.

>>151847576
Then watch it, it's pretty much a longer CM.

I like Extra Vlad design. Fit perfectly for some DAA

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>>151847543

>>151847605
The armor is also different. In Extra his design is a lot less polished, and I feel like it makes enough difference.

>>151847585
Why do you assume that? It was supposed to be a normal Grail War. Why would everyone know each other and the Servants at the start? At best the 3 families might know if they invited them personally, but it might've also just been a public thing because they needed more mages. The only big difference from a regular HGW is that without the Church and Association, they wouldn't give a shit what the muggles think. There's tons of potential.

>>151847664
>It wasn't funny
>Artoria Archer's ass all over the screen

Fucking OVA even ruined Guda Guda Order.

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HGW Raidou Kuzunoha style when?

>>151847443
>>151847458
Fuck off faggots. I literally just got back from vacation.

>>151847466
Based anon

>>151847487
Guess I'll watch it just for my man Karna

>>151847390
No just his chest

>>151847616
Yeah, he was fun in his own way. Still prefer Apo version's design and development a lot more though.
Sorry that I didn't bother with FGO though it's fucking filthy irrelevant trash.

>>151847691
I just looked it up and you were mixing the first and the second in something. The first time they brought outsiders was the first one, we barely know anything about the second one other than it ended with a killing spree due to no regulations. So yeah, it might work, but I'm not sure we need to see it.

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>>151847676
Acording to Wada regular Karna was too fancy to put into their low budget PSP game.

>>151847511
Extra
>Nero
>EMIYA
>Cu
>Tamamo
>Gilgamesh
>Lu Bu
>Drake
>Robin Hood
>Nursery Rhyme
>Arcuied
>Vlad
>Li Shuwen
>Liz
>Karna
>Archimedes
>Buddha
>Andersen
>Suzaku Gozen

>>151847776
Nah, the first was Makiri Zouken, Justeaze, and Tohsaka Nagato sacrificing their Servants in Ryuudou Temple. That's where they realized they needed more so they made the 2nd War with other people. They make it quite clear in HF.

>>151847842
It's not about quantity, read what I said in the post beyond the list, gosh.

>>151847875
>Gawain

>>151847855
I'm too lazy to look it up in the novel, but the wiki doesn't say that so whatever.

>>151847842
>forgetting Ryougi Shiki
kill yourself

>>151847886
>>151847842
You realize I didn't even list all the Apocrypha servants right?

>>151847990
You realize I left out at least ten Extra servants right?

>>151847958
Fuck off, don't let these cunts know about best heroine.

>>151825866
>Siegfried offing himself for shitter like Sieg
>that retarded romcom with Sieg
Why was 'Sieg' so shit? It's not even like he's irritating or anything. His mere existence seems to have run the entire story into the ground.

>>151835357
Apocrypha was the really really fun until the last parts where it became the worst shit ever.
Just as bad as GO overall.

>>151835582
>that Arjuna
Hnnnng

>>151845675
Sieg is not a bad character. As a concept, it's good.
It's just that he pretty much became like cancer towards the whole plot. Like actual cancer cells.

>>151846515
Wait a minute, you're not supposed to use stockings to the swimming pool!

What's going on here?

>>151848685
It's from last years April Fools event. That was his idol outfit.

>>151848798
>last year's
Crazy as it is I'm pretty sure the idol stuff and TMitter was 2015, anon. 2016 was some low effort FGOshit unfortunately, worst April Fool's to date.

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>>151848993
>low effort
nah

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>>151848993
So it was. Let's hope this years is as fun as TMitter was.

>>151849163
There was some funny art but come on now, it's nothing compared to a whole day of interns shitposting and role-playing on twitter, PLUS the hilarious idol stuff for some characters. Those were both in a single year.

>>151849283
>drawing hundreds of funny art
>roleplaying

If i were you i would kill self

>>151849283
There was some game as I remember too. And twitter jokes

>>151848993
Nasu was playing Dark Souls 3 and it was fun for Japan.

>Primate Murder
>Suppose to a crazy killing dog
>was throw off a window by a lazy NEET

>>151849420
Sorry your Grand Order SPECIAL April Fool's event was sorely lacking and disappointing compared to the previous year's. Well, it' not like TM ever puts effort into GO related stuff, I'd be mad if I were you too.

>>151850018
Nasu already said he's going to pour down his own money and soul until Fate/Grand Order is finished

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>>151849283
Going back through all that stuff, I realized TMitter is where Kiyo made her first appearance.

>>151849946
Fou is a squirrel not a dog.

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>mfw I read Apoc because I was fucking HYPE AS FUCK for based Siegfried
None of you know my pain.

>>151835348
Because servants is the the only focus of FGO. It's not a protagonist or a story, it's servants because players pay money for them.

>>151850046
Yeah senpai, that First Order special sure was the top tier quality I've come to expect from Type-Moon, in both writing and production values. Glad to know this is the result of Nasu's money and soul, you can tell he's giving it his all for this mobile game.

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>>151834177
>Jeanne Alter fag calling Jeanne shit
Sudoku yourself. Jeanne is love, Alter a shit.

>>151850329
He does for the game, he wrote 1000 pages just for Babylon, the anime was suppose to be for Japan only none of this still was suppose to be release for American viewers

>>151850454
>it's OK that it sucked because it was intended for shit-eaters who unironically enjoy the game
Yeah, it's clearly still not even close to the best Nasu has to offer and you know it.

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I just want more F/GO because Lancelot and Mashu/Galahad's relationship is something I yearn to see animated.

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>>151850018
>deems April Fool's event disappointing by himself
>apologises to someone else based on an opinion no one else has
>thinks other guy is mad

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I really like Mordred and Kairi, they are one of the best pairs of master and servant in all Fate series. Also want to see Jeanne animated and there is several cool as fuck scenes in F/A.
But I feel it's gonna be a shit because of A1 studio. Not enough budget, not much talent in animation and etc.

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>>151850247
Getting offed in the first volume was disappointing, but at least it improved Sieg's design.

>>151850536
A1 was joked for a while when people were asking who was going to do the animation because we all know ufo can't do long adaptions and then it actually happened

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>>151850573
Wow yeah that really made it all better in the end.

Oh wait

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>>151850329
>you can tell he's giving it his all for this mobile game.
He is though. I'd say he's the only one writing for FGO that actually cares about it. He rewrote America then made Camelot and Babylon way longer than they were originally supposed to be. They're ridiculously large story chapters for a mobage. The earlier chapters written by Higashide and Sakurai just don't compare.

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>>151850680
>>151850646
Jannu time?

>>151850713
>cuck
Way to out yourself as a crossboarder.

>>151850755
People are just mad that Mahoyo didn't sell to Nasu's expectation which caused the Fate milking and the abandonment of almost everything else Type-Moon has made

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>>151850764
Best girl

>>151850755
And other authors got mad because they were restricted while only their story supervisor was able to shoehorn all his writing to the devs becuse of his status.

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>>151850878
Suki!

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I want to experience Jeanne's lap-pillow!

>>151850755
Probably, but he appearantly also wrote Fuyuki which was kind of shitty, and really the whole thing was already ruined by the time he came in with America, due to self-insert protagonist and the early chapters. Shame he wasted his time when he could've put that effort somewhere else.

>>151850914
I want Jalter to do this to me.

>>151850713
>still thinks other people share his opinion about April Fools event
>still pretending he is insulting people by putting down a funny event
>thinks being passive aggressive hides how salty he is about FGO

sasuga anon

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>>151850939
>>151850914
>>151850878
>>151850764

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>deleted posts
>he finally got caught

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>>151850975
Unless you are Bryn, its doubtful you can get that to happen. She's also implied to be yandere for Jalter.

>>151850959
That was when Nasu and friends thought people didn't care about the story so they didn't put enough effort because is a mobage, the feedback changed his mind and allowed him to write in his style instead of rushing the story

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>>151850898
Maybe they'll get to redeem themselves with Epic of Remnant.

>>151850985
>Thinking of homunculus cock

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>>151851039
Sieg a qt. Lavetica too.

>>151851016
Yeah, the whole thing is still garbage thanks to the "main protagonists" and being a damn mobile game though.

>>151850898
Everyone had a limit to how much text each chapter should have and they all went over. Nasu just went extra overboard.

>>151851090
Mobage is the future of the Japanese industry what is Nasu suppose to do sit down and let his company crumble

>>151851128
>His company
Its about as much Takeuchi's as it is Nasu's at this point anyway.

>>151851128
No it's fine, just don't waste time and effort writing for that shit and work on something with potential instead. Retards will keep paying for FGO anyway, the game was making tons of money long before America (pretty sure the whole Sony announcement thing was very early on too). Also a little more quality control with the early chapters could've helped, but I guess you can't have everything.

Meta F/GO discussions always looks like same. They have chance to become another chinese torture like Tsukihime. Just deal with it. F/GO is new setting based of Prototype rules.

>>151850247
Karna and Siegfried will finish their fight in the everdistant dream anon ;_;

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>>151850914

>>151851208
That's fine. Just talk about it on /fgog/ rather than /a/, since it inevitably invites nothing but waifuposters because that's the only appeal of that game.

Threadly reminder Hector is GOAT

>>151851263
Go post that on /fgog/.

>>151851263
Right, there was no waifuposting in Fate threads before FGO happened.

>>151851261
Suki pls, Jalter is unhappy.

>>151851263
It's like telling LNfags going to /jp/ and trying to forbid mention original LN in anime threads. Pure autism.
>F/SN is VN so don't discuss VN parts in /a/ TM threads!

>>151851092
Their limit was 20kb for ALL their chapters, but they wrote 20kb for each chapter. And then Nasu wrote 120kb for Camelot only. It's not a fucking extra

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>>151850504
more UNRIVALED Saber when?

>>151851391
>can't even beat Mashu

>>151851391
>yfw imagining the scene animated where we see Agravain all mutilated before dying in front of Seibah because of Lancelot

>>151851275
Why the fuck would I? Obviously GOfags are happy with their waifus there.

>>151851311
Sure, but there also were never dedicated waifuposting generals for any other TM works where you could go do that.

>>151851338
No one's forbidding FSN VN or other spin-off discussion. FGO just has its own dedicated general.

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>>151851415
>smug man for posting green text on Lancelot letting Mashu verbally dominate him is somehow equated to beating him in a fight
>same Mashu that so ridiculous with her shield can withstand Divine Lion King Saber's strongest attack with that stupidly OP Rhondy spear

>>151851460
Why are you so obsessed with generals?

>>151851460
You sound like you failed at playing the game with that stick up your ass, kiddo.

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>>151851491
>tfw Mashu beat Lancelot twice
>even Angryvein beat Lancelot

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>>151851319

>>151851502
Because that's what they are for and FGO constantly shits up other TM threads because they can't keep it there.

>>151851522
>failed at playing
>a fucking mobage
KEK

>>151851574
Why wouldn't I talk about anime on /a/?

What if Shirou is Solomon's reincarnation?

>without pushing his circuits, he's a redhead and has a blue/green (same in Japan) and white color
>with pushing, gets tan, with white hair and a black/red robes
>empty men (originally solomon was this)
>solomon's arc is of a hero larger than life since birth wishing to be human, while shirou is of a mundane man gaining a place among legends (for most part)
>harem protagonist
>mostly paired with a famous male historical/legendary figure genderswapped

>>151851653
Waifus from a mobage who were not in the one adapted OVA of it are not anime or manga content.

>>151851713
Newfag, we're allowed to discuss the source material for any anime/manga, and there are a bunch of manga anthologies for FGO with most, if not all, characters appearing in them.

>>151851782
Well yes, but you should strive to keep threads with a certain level of quality. FGO "discussion" does nothing but dampen that. And there's a general for it.

>>151851819
You need some anal in your life anon.

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>>151851819
>but you should strive to keep threads with a certain level of quality

>>151851819
>certain level of quality
>TM threads
Pure baiting. You suddenly become too polite. I hope you not ban evading right now.

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>>151851261