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Flip Flapping?
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They bullied YYK until the end.
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>>151570854
She deserved better
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Awaiting Cocona Flip Flap figure.
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>>151570973
Only Papika gets one
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>>151570854
>>151570925

Yayaka got plenty of stuff to from episode 9 and 12.
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>>151571004
I would be pretty mad.
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>>151570925
What's better than a handsome green bunny?
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>>151571084
Only a Papika one has any kind of mention anywhere in any capacity.
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>>151571094
Cocona is always better.
Not that it was ever gonna happen.
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>>151571094
A handsome grey bunny
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Is it me or do Cocona's eyes in this shot say "Take me now, Papika"
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>>151571178
what are those black balls
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>>151571178
It's that Berserk CG bunny.
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>>151571239

Shit
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>>151571225
or just DUDE PURE ILLUSION LMAO
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>>151571225
I think that is exactly what is happening as we speak.
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>>151571258
Are bunnies always constipated?
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>>151571094
Felt kind of sorry for Yayaka really, that bunny is the only thing she really has in the whole world now.
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>In the end, Yayaka is literally a cuck.

How did this make you feel?
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>>151571326
They eat their own poop.
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Top 3 yuri pairings 2016:
1-Nene/Clara-rin
2-Papicoco
3-Chicken/Lillie
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>>151571371
She got best boy instead of Shinji with a vagina, it's a reason to celebrate.
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>>151571403
I don't really know any other Yuri pairings besides the ones in this show.
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CUTE CUTE CUTE CUTE CUTE CUTE
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>>151571371
Really feeling that -yakas cuckoldry fate
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>>151571371
>literally a cuck
Is that a censored scene? Will it be in the BDs? Because it sounds pretty fucking hot.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT1OKo1rT84
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>>151571527
Makes me laugh everytime now.
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>>151571508
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>>151571421
>Shinji with a vagina
So, Shinji?
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so S2 confirmed, right?
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>>151571469
There really needed to be Salt x Mimi going towards the sunset while hand-in-hand, while smiling.
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>>151571727
Did Salt died?
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>>151571688
Oh god, I hope not.
>>151571469
It's sad that in the end I cared more about these two than about Cocona and much less Papika.
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>>151571753
Yes. He killed himself. No, some how he survived.
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CUTE
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>AOTY 2015 is Yuuki Yuuna (Mahou Shoujo) from Fall season
>AOTY 2016 is Flip Flappers (Mahou Shoujo) from Fall season
>AOTY 2017 is ????
Masaka
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>>151572172
Isn't Yuuki Yuuna S2 in spring though?
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>>151572172
>>AOTY 2015 is Yuuki Yuuna (Mahou Shoujo) from Fall season
No.
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so earth was PI the whole time?
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>>151572172
>AOTY 2015 is Yuuki Yuuna
>walmart Madoka
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2ch comments

>Salt's nail clipper in desk foreshadowing is still a mystery, should make a 2nd season so the meaning becomes clear.
>Episode 12 was the wedding, Episode 13 was the honeymoon.
>Nail clippers were about Cocona being in denial about what happened to Iroha (because of her nail polish thing).
>Show was really good, but the fact that it is unsuitable for younger audiences limits it success.
>Finished watching, happy and completely satisfied with the end.
>Good last episode. Was concerned if they would be able to finish properly after the Mimi henshin.
>No more Flip Flappers to watch, sad.
>Personally episode 9 was the best. Yayaka's best episode.
>Ended. I was surprised. It was fun. It's over, damn.
>It's over, want to thank the staff for their good work.
>Sayuri's room looks comfy, probably smells nice, want to watch a DVD with together.
>Show had good fanservice of the girls lower bodies.
>It was a good last episode. I would like to see more anime or manga to follow on from the last episode.
>Episode 13 was almost perfect.
>Sayuri looked cute in the "Grey World" in her "at home" clothes.
>Iroha's ending was close to perfect.
>Sayuri-san's nape.
>Sayuri should have gotten more screen time.
>Yayaka and Uexkull became friends, made me smile.
>In the end felt kind of bad for Yayaka
>Looking forward to the talk show next month.
>Even if now you asked Cocona to choose between Papika and Cocona I think she would immediately say "Both".
>Dissapointed that Yapico didn't all Flip Flapping at the same time.
>Weird for Mimi that her ex best friend became the same age in flesh as her daughter and they are now lesbians.
>Last episode wasn't good but it was a good show.
>Seems like the kind of show that could still be discussed after it was finished.
>Salt actually ended up being more useful than NyuNyu.
>Kind of wanted Salt and Hidaka Flip Flapping!
>Good last episode but was dissapointed some of the previous foreshadowing wasn't in it.
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>>151572254
>>151572363
>implying Flip Flappers is AOTY 2016
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>>151572373
>>Salt's nail clipper in desk foreshadowing is still a mystery, should make a 2nd season so the meaning becomes clear.
>>Nail clippers were about Cocona being in denial about what happened to Iroha (because of her nail polish thing).
Salt's nail clipper was because of him playing guitar like the flashback showed, you baka nips.
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>>151572172
YuYuYu was 2014
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>>151572457
Why would they be the only item in his desk in Cocona's own Pure Illusion if it was just "he plays guitar"?
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>>151572373
>Weird for Mimi that her ex best friend became the same age in flesh as her daughter and they are now lesbians.

I know right

>Even if now you asked Cocona to choose between Papika and Cocona I think she would immediately say "Both".

Yayakafagging there is strong
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>>151572457
The nailclippers became a meme in 2ch, I think. Those aren't serious comments.
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>>151572373

>Sayuri's room looks comfy, probably smells nice, want to watch a DVD with together.
>Sayuri should have gotten more screen time.
>Show had good fanservice of the girls lower bodies.

based nipps

>Salt actually ended up being more useful than NyuNyu.

WHY DID NYUNYU EVEN EXIST
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>>151571403
I thought Pandora was 5 years ago, but it's actually this year
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>>151572690
Seriously this. All of it, but mainly the last part. What was the purpose of this creature and if it was just fanservice then why wasn't there more of it?
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>>151572172
Don't we have an announcement of another Madoka project?
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>>151572823
Nyunyu had to exist so that Yayaka could become Punished Yayaka
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>>151572373
>>Kind of wanted Salt and Hidaka Flip Flapping!
Sad
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>>151572823
The interview says that Oshiyama wanted a character with twin tails. Literally
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>>151572373
>Weird for Mimi that her ex best friend became the same age in flesh as her daughter and they are now lesbians.
For real, love Papicocco but they overcomplicated it with the age gape then reverse age gap then yuri babies.
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>>151572895
It's been supposedly in the works for several years now, haven't heard anything new about it for some time.
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>>151572895
There's a Madoka mobile game announced.
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>>151572823
The whole story could have been told with just half the characters. We didn't even need Hidaka or Sayuri either and the twins didn't do anything that one badass character couldn't have done either, apart from showing real emotions in the last episodes, but I'm glad we got them.
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>>151573491
Hidaka was necessary
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>>151572895
Yes, but do you think it will possible to have a civil talk in madoka threads again?
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>>151572373
>>Dissapointed that Yapico didn't all Flip Flapping at the same time.
Yeah that would have been pretty cool but I guess they really needed the two way relationship to be in the forefront this episode after 12.
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>>151572823
Keep Fapping
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>>151573491
>we didn't even need hidaka
???
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>>151573534
She is really lewd.
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>>151573491
Good thing you're not in charge of writing any stories.
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>>151573525
>>151573655
I guess Hidaka served a good purpose. I do love his character. Nyunyu just kept up the light-hearted feeling of the show for me while serious shit was going down.
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>>151573477
Good, now we can finally push their cancerous general to /vg/ before they announce anything else.
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Wow so glad I dropped this garbage after 3 episodes
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>>151572373
>>It was a good last episode. I would like to see more anime or manga to follow on from the last episode.

I think a manga of cute PI adventures with Papika and Cocona with appearances from the side characters would be nice. They could go use PI and fix people or something, Flip Flap can have a technological breakthrough to allow them to do it without screwing people up.
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>>151571225
>do you feel the >cockona now?
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>>151574371
>is it in yet?
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>>151574832
Don't do this, anon
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Well, what was it?
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>>151575007
niasho
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>>151575007
Adventures with Cocona?
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>>151574371
I want to feel the cockona.
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>>151575007
Having sex with someone she knew as a fetus.

Looks like she'll get her wish.
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>>151570475
And that's it? This ending was nothing but a wet fart.

Whose idea was it to start the anime as good as it did only to end it like this?
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So how long until LWA 2 so I have something to plug the hole in my life?

>>151575296
Ending was great, resolved all the important issues and gave Papika and Cocona the happy end they deserved.
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>>151575296
The worst part is they didn't do the thing where the ED starts playing before the very end, I love it when they do that.
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>>151571178
So was this the real real world or was some fucked up reality pure illusion?
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>>151575398
It was another Pure Illusion.
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>>151575398
It was our world but it was also PI we are like the cat people in the desert
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>>151575398
That was also a PI.
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>>151575398
Pure Illusion. Papika tried to send Cocona back to the real world but Cocona broke the bubble before getting out so she ended up in that Pure Illusion instead. Then Papika gets to her and they finally get back to the real world.
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>>151575398
No robot arm, normal uexkull, bu-chan looked like a digger and the giant ass butterflies at the end means it's just a fucked up boring PI.
But since it looks so much like our own world compared to the trippy "real world" in FLFL it opens up the possibility of the "real world" they started in being a PI of its own to another realer world
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Still making that collage

We're making a thank you image! The card will be a collection of images into one big image sent to them via Twitter using imgur. The due date for submissions is 12/30/16 at 9:00 am pst. Send all images to [email protected]

>Dimensions
600 by 600 pixels
>Why not here? it's an imageboard after all. we'd just have to reply your post.
Its hard trying to shitpost 24/7 to have to go around collecting images
>Why not real postcards? I want to send one. But there needs to be a campaign for it to mean something.
I'm not sure how this would be accomplished so I'm limiting it to digital.
>Who are we sending it to?
@binobinobi the directors twitter
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>muh age gap
Didn't stop Bubuki, and it didn't stop this show.
Hell, FF's better than Bubuki because most of Reoko/Azuma happens when the only teenage thing about Reoko is her undying unaging body. She has all the experiences and memories of an adult
Cocona/Papika's better because the romance happens when Papika's a new person of Cocona's age due to deaging and amnesia shenanigans. Even ff Papikana's as old as Mimi, Papika's a girl of Cocona's age.
All in all, a great finale to a great show.
PD: Fuck you, overreactionary shitposters
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>>151575296
>have a great art direction
>good subtle writing
>intriguing set up for a mystery
>potential for great action in the third episode

>decide to switch writer, loses subtlety in writing
>rip off eva
>introduce useless characters and a generic antagonist
>fucked schedule ruins everything including pacing and animation quality

The bulk of my complaints is based only on most of episode 12 and the whole of 13, but still what the fuck. Why didn't they see the potential in all of this?
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>>151575581
How many are there?
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>>151575545
>No robot arm
At the very end Yuyu is shown with a regular arm in the real world too, she always had it under her robot arm.
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>>151575617
Episode 12 was fine besides the last few minutes and Episode 13 was fine just generally ignoring the few bits of QUALITY in 12 and the even more QUALITY in 13 but that will be fixed for the BD release.
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>>151575624
ah fuck me i mixed up what happens in PI with what happens in the real world
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>>151575707
Dunno why I said most but I meant half. I enjoyed the fuck out of yayaka henshin too.
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Dr. Salt must've played a lot of Mario Party as a kid.
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>>151575707
Ep 13 had far less QUALITY than what I though it would have.
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>>151575617
>have a great art direction
>good subtle writing
>intriguing set up for a mystery
>potential for great action in the third episode
okay. and then actually

>writer fucked schedule ruins everything including pacing and animation quality
>decide to switch writer, loses subtlety in writing
>rip off eva
>introduce useless characters and a generic antagonist
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>>151572373
>>Show had good fanservice of the girls lower bodies.
>>Sayuri-san's nape.
>>Sayuri's room looks comfy, probably smells nice, want to watch a DVD with together.
>>Sayuri should have gotten more screen time.

Yes to all of these to be honest.
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>>151575810
Oh, she is chanto wearing them. I was a bit worried after no shoes no socks.
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>>151575819
Considering we were potentially worried about delays and completely missing scenes it wasn't too bad but its still disappointing given the show at its best.
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>>151575803
Fuck you anon, traumatic memories of Paddle Battle just came flooding in.
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>>151575867
I like how she grows a spider lily crown right at the end
The SFX in this scene were also great
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>>151575876
Remember she's poor.
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>>151571469
At least some closure was made.
>>151571753
He was seen smiling at the end. So no.
>>151572373
These nips knows what's up.
>>151575803
Don't give me those memories man.
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>>151575617
>Why didn't they see the potential in all of this?
They probably did. They just didn't know how to handle it.

So we ended with episode 10 and onwards and this generic ending.
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>>151576371
Name some other endings that are the same without grossly oversimplifying.
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>>151576435
No.
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Post your favourite image you saved in a Flip Flappers thread
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>>151576435
no you see, all endings must now subvert the "standard" ending in the same way, because we're all so postmodern and love variety
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>>151576497
Need image without Cocona and Papika.
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>>151576470
Probably difficult when you only have 10 to choose from right?
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>>151576497
it will be in use for many years to come
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>>151576497
The only futaanon fanart I bothered saving >>151575400

>tfw we didn't even get age-gap yuri
>tfw it was all meaningless
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>>151576497
one day i shall get dubs with this
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>>151576566
That day is today, congrats
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>>151576566
>one day
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>>151575581
When will you post them?
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>>151576566
Congratulations.
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>>151576566
Congratulations.
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>>151576497
Futanon ushers me into a new horizon of taste.
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>>151576566
Well, what do you know.
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>>151576566
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>>151576497
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>>151576497
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>>151576566
oofuru
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>>151572172
YuYuYu was 2014 AOTS, and will also be 2017 AOTS, Shinju willing
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>>151576566
Amazing
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>>151576497
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>>151576566
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>>151571248
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>>151576566
HUEEEHHHH?
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>>151576497
What is this expression trying to convey?
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>>151575431
Come to think of it, Bu-chan is unable to maintain his true form in DPI
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>>151576819
The pleasure of eating jelly donut
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>discussion died within less than 12 hours

Didn't expect this but I guess the ending was straight forward enough
See some of you in future LWA threads
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>>151576819
AMAI
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>>151576855
we just maxed out like 5 threads to 800+ in a few hours, what more do you want
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>>151571239
Rabbits create little chocolate treats that you can pick up and snack on. That's why people like them.
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Do you think the new seasons of FLCL will be as good as FLFL?
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>>151576884
I don't know, didn't expect reaction image spam this fast
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>>151576566
Lord KEK definitely loves Flap Flappers.
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>>151572623
He's not wrong though. Most of flipflapper's themes were about finding a balance between conflicting priorities.
Between friends and lovers (Papika's choice and Cocona's mistake)
Between duty and morality/love (Yayaka's torment)
Between support and protection (Mimi's inner conflict)
Between adventure and reality (Cocona's indecision)

If one is "asked" to choose between a friend and lover then "Both" is the correct answer. If forced to choose on the other hand, well, at least she has Uexkull.
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>>151576933
considering the motivation for it is obviously extremely mercenary, i doubt it. but you never know.
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>>151576933
no, but I hope.
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>>151576497
Not an image, but this piece of animation someone made into a webm is one of my favorites from the show. When I first watched episode 1, the scene put a big dumb smile on my face.
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>>151576946
Didn't you get the memo? Kek got sealed away earlier today by /a/'s 151555555 get.
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>>151576763
I dunno why the Gokigenyous Clapping webm became a thing but the Gokigenyous Giggling webm never went mainstream
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>>151576566
Based amorphous powers
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>>151576566
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>>151577011
that cut somehow awes me more than all the OMFG CAMERA SPINNING AND EXPLOSIONS AND GLASS PAINTINGS in Mob Psycho.
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>>151571094
Someone post that "fertility" creepypasta.
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>>151577011
I fell in love with her the moment she rushed out with that hoverboard, seeing her being all genki there made my heart go dokidoki. What a fucking cutie.

A CUTE
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>>151577144
I don't think I want anything to do with this
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>>151577106
While I definitely enjoyed the MP100 anime quite a bit, being a fan of ONE's work, I sort of agree.
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>>151576566
YOU DID IT
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>>151577106
Because sometimes what's more important isn't how much something is moving but how convincing that movement is.

Flifla's animation really excelled in the latter and a lot of its best-looking scenes stood out because of how well they made simple motions feel like they had real mass behind them.
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>>151576566
>>151576623
>>151576819
Can we agree PPK made the cutest feces in 2016?
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>>151571225

>Hey, Papika, want to have lots of unprotected sex with me and ejaculate in my cervix over and over until I get knocked up. I'm ovulating right now~
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>>151577238
Dumb meme
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>>151577155
Nothing. I don't want any more of it.
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>>151577247
How do girls ejaculate anyway?
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>>151577238
actually you'll find that flip flappers feces game is very mediocre considering the pedigree of the staff involved.
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>>151571094
LOPPED
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>>151577296
Now this is shitposting
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>>151570854
Can't help that
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>>151577247
No way my homosexual friend
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>>151577213
Well there's also the issue that Mob Psycho looked rad about 99% of the time and Flip Flappers doesn't have that many cuts of that caliber.

But yeah, that is some Hosoda movie shit.
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>>151577106
I disagree if only for the novelty of oil glass paintings in commercial anime. That scene just reminded of the Wolf Children cut.
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>>151572420
>implying there was a better show this year
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>>151577339
She was my favorite character but Papika and Cocona belong together.

I know I'm not alone in thinking this.
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As much as I would love to continue drinking and saving images I missed throughout the past few months, I have to get to bed.

It was quite the ride, and I wouldn't share it with anyone other than you faggots.
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>>151577339
i'm her girlfriend now
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>>151572823
She is a plot device to push Yayaka's development.
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>>151577409
>Matoi
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>>151577342
It kind of hurts to see her smile now. I think I am going to quit /a/ actually. Maybe I will come back when they have the talk event to translate some tweets/2ch posts about it if there are any.
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>>151576841
He was even missing the Robot episode, some assuming he was the brain with the end of the episode showing him taking a lot of damage.
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>>151576562
Mimi fixed PPK so age gap wouldn't be an issue. But was it really necessary to show lesbian overtones with babies? 3Hz you so crazy.
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Why is it over guys?

Thank god YYK got some sort of closure, I am really happy no one died
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>>151577294
With their cockonas.
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>>151577449
Matoifags will conquer the earth
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>>151577155
Other : OVAs with a few episodic adventures like ep3 or 8.
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>>151570475

Yeah it ended and I still don't get this show.

Everything about this is all showing and (almost) no tell
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>>151577481
>But was it really necessary to show lesbian overtones with babies?
Yes.
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>>151577481
Cocona fed Papika her placenta and they became friends. Oh my
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https://clyp.it/djsrx2zn
>2:00
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>>151577512
You need more than three people for world conquest.
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>>151577428
Nurse here, enjoy your used good.
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>>151577542
Why would lesbians need to eat a fertility symbol anyways? They can't breed.
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I can't draw for shit and have a horribly shaky mouse hand. I'm gonna miss this show.
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>>151577591
not bad
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>>151577581
unprotected hand holding can cause lesbian pregnancy, hence the phrase no glove no lone
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>>151577591
Oh hey, I did something similar. I just used a screenshot, though.
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>>151577549
stop this
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>>151577539
I remember when "show don't tell" was something positive
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>not re-aging Papikana so she could be the weird lesbian spinster aunt that exasperates Salt because she keeps taking his daughteru off on ADVENTURES

cocona is made for yayaka not OLD HAG!
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>>151577591
I hope they really like the postcards, fanart is said to be the biggest compliment an artist can receive.
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>>151577624
Jesus christ, Papika has knocked Cocona up at least 11 times by now then.
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>>151577581
Why would lesbians need to touch an ovary rock? Just go along with it
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>>151577581
Bitches don't know about my kaguya mouse.
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>>151577666
but will they like the QUALITY one

also nice trips
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>>151577640
It is unless you have the intellectual capabilities of Papika.
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>>151576497
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>>151577720
The QUALITY postcard is a bit too much indeed. I'm not quite sure they are aware of our memes.
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>>151577576
Stop.
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>Wonder Festival 2017 in February

This is where you will hope to see the Papika figure, and maybe a Cocona and Yayaka.

Remember: it took 2 years for Alter to release Tougou. Never give up hope.
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>>151576750
Sad how this became irrelevant
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>>151577576
I hope you will die the painful death you deserve.
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but who was nailclipper
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God damn Mimi was attractive.

MILF of the year, hands down.
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>>151577905
Salt was a lesbian
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>>151577915
Nice stage 6 boss
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How much do you want to have Mimi spank you and make you call her mummy /a/?
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>>151577854
But Yuyuyu had plenty of derived products for two years.
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?
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>Cockona
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>>151578027
Apparently Uexkull's defining characteristic is his love of tight spaces
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>>151578000
Almost as much as I want to taste Cockona. Which is to say, very much.
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>>151577915
http://www.strawpoll.me/11985946
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>>151577666
Me too. I certainly wouldn't be able to convey my love for the show eloquently enough through words nor would they do it justice, so I hope our feelings get across with the postcard. Seeing their work come to life, especially after those images of them slouched over at their desks, it doesn't matter if it didn't turn out how everyone wanted. Whether it was discussing the symbolism/imagery and references throughout the show, the smorgasbord of interesting Pure Illusions or just who the best girl was, it's been a magical ride Flip Flapping with everyone.
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>>151578027
make it 600x600 and send it in for the christmas card
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>>151577915
>MILF
She just looks like a 16 y/o Cocona.
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>>151578042
well he won't stick with yayaka for long then, do ho ho
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>>151568785
Underrated
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>>151578080
let's not
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>>151578027
Cocona, gattai da!
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>>151578014
You mean t-shirts and a couple straps from the Gokumi Studio online shop? That figure was announced early 2015 and releases April of next year.

Papika can't be that bad of a wait.
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>>151577640
It is if you use the visuals to convey a narrative. However, only using the visuals to impress and mislead the viewer does nothing except make a pretentious mess of a show.
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>>151578088
Still a MILF. Just a young one
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>>151577676
11? Ahaha.

It's fucking 33. 33 HANDHOLDINGS.
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>>151572373
>Sayuri's room looks comfy, probably smells nice, want to watch a DVD with together.
Excellent taste.
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>>151578088
She's a bonafide mother, anon. Cocona came from her birthy bits.
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>>151578179
Remember when we thought she was the final boss?
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>>151575581
If I make card with something along the lines of "it wasn't so bad but you must keep improving" will you include it?
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>>151576497
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>>151578088
She's literally Cocona's mother
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>>151578170
>33
Mimi
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Would Uxe coming out of Hidaka's chest ala Alien be okay for the postcard?
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>>151578027
>>151578042
Uexkull's thick green bunny cock tearing open Yayaka's itty bitty cat twat.
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>>151572261
They started overlapping a la Lain, and ELPIS apparently had the potential of creating ANOTHER layer of reality over PI. They scrapped it because it was too dangerous and finding the fragments was less risky than throwing people in a death machine and accidentally creating tons of parallel universes.
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>>151578222
Nice trips anon
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>>151578220
Remember when we thought she'd be relevant in any way at all?
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>>151578256
Shut up, fag.
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>>151577549
FUCK. I LOVE YOU GUYS
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I didn't like any of the stuff after Mimi's reveal but that was a pretty good final episode all things considered.

Glad they got the budget back under control.
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>>151578220
When she casually pulled out her gun and aimed it at Bu-chan's brain, I was worried for a split second that something was about to go terribly wrong.
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why did they forget that this happened?
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>>151578239
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>>151578294
You mean, you love love LOVE us! right anon?
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>>151578288
No.
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What would baron von Uexkull think of his theories being used to prop up an anime about cute girls having cute lesbian adventures?
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>>151578317
Oh, that is nice, I love it when they do that. Didn't even notice.
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>Lezzing out with your mother's BFF in front of her
And people wonder why Mimi got pissed.
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>>151578179
She is a cutie.
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>>151578317
>recycled animation in the final episode
Great. Why is this allowed?
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>>151578343
I think you should send this to Oshiyama and the staffs. They would be killed.
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>>151578317
POTTERY
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>>151578317

HA HA HA! HOLY SHIT!

Oshiyama did a remarkable job on his first directing gig.
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>>151578376
He'd be a Yayakafag.
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>>151578306
It was really fucking weird.
Cocona probably just assumed she dreamed it, or else locked it away in the deepest reaches of her subconscious so she wouldn't have to deal with it until she was old enough to recount it to a therapist.

Papika did remember, but apparently decided to not dredge up Cocona's traumatic childhood once she realized that Cocona didn't remember her.
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>>151578376
flattered I imagine. I am sure some anon is reading his works right now because of this show. FliFla inspired me enough to pick up Jung.
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>>151578420
It's intentional Nene you dumb slut
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>>151578300
>I didn't like any of the stuff after Mimi's reveal but that was a pretty good final episode all things considered.
Yeah, considering all the shit Mimi can do with PI it was relief the ending wasn't a Yamibou 2.0.
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>>151578492
Do not take the bait anon you fool
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>>151578385
Embarrassed Cocona is so darn cute.
>mother powerless while her daughter goes completely gay for her best friend
This shouldn't be so arousing but holy hell it is.
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>>151578137
I don't want to invoke the 2deep4u meme but sometimes you just don't get it and that's okay, but don't take it out on other that DO get it (or at least think they do).

Almost feels like that's why shows with a strong plot that you can trace back and check for holes will always be more acclaimed. Look at Steins;Gate, I don't think that story is particularly inspired but you can definitely objectively check if it works.
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>>151575398
Its a PI. But its also our world. In the canon of the show, the boring world you and I live in is just another PI, while Cocona and Papika's world is the "real world"
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>>151578000
Almost as much as I want the trips
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>>151578519
>getting aroused by the purest love imaginable

Go see a priest, anon. They're probably not going to start having sex for a few months.
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>>151578289
>Not wanting to watch Yayaka choke on dick as she cries over losing
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>>151578239
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>>151570475
This is how the year ends: Not with a bang, nor a whimper, but a flip-flap.

For all of its faults, Flip Flappers is easily the Anime of the Year.
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>>151578541
The story of Flip Flappers is mostly simple and easily understandable if you pay attention. There's almost no room for subjective interpretation except for small stuff like the nail clippers.
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>>151578317
Wasn't there a longer webm of this up to the point of Papika sniffing her and being pushed away?

If not someone needs to make it
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>>151578618
>working out her lesbian angst on consolation cock
Wonderful. I bet Yayaka is a freak in bed, too.
>>
I wonder what Oshiyama will work on next, maybe back to animating for a while. Guess we will see. Maybe he will say something at this anime end of year event hosted by Osamu Kobayashi he is attending this evening where he is doing a talk thing with Yuasa and Iso or maybe at the Flip Flappers final talk show soon.
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>>151578664
Can Yayaka even get back into PI like Papika and Cocona can? Otherwise Uexkull is just a small green rabbit.
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>>151572373
Hey translator kun, the oshiyama event next month, can you translate any info that comes from that please? We would all appreciate it if you could.
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>>151578664
Sayuri is a freak, Yayaka is the type of girl that talks a big game but when it comes time for action she will blush and get nervous and not know what to do.
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Who's gonna marathon the show now that is done?
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>>151578641
Yes, but it feels to me that Flip Flappers isn't really about its plot. So if you think that the plots shallow and dumb and don't look beyond that, you're probably still missing something important.
>>
where is the justice for AB-chan?
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>>151578664
yayaka's a huge softie and cuddling is enough to have her stuttering, don't let her tch demeanor fool you
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>>151573302

There were many mistakes made. Papi the hebe is one of them.
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>>151578720
But I just marathoned 1-12 yesterday
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>>151578720
I just marathoned it yesterday

I'm gonna have to give it some space before I revisit for another rewatch so it isn't still all fresh in my head.
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>>151578720
Nigga, there was a stream literally yesterday.
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I still resonate with Cocona on a spiritual level.
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>>151578743
>>151578709
Yeah but she's petite, flexible and athletic. Once she gets into it she could do things other girls only dream about. Her mindset is totally different.
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>>151578566
That what the plot says, but I think a bit of Zhuang Zhi is also heavily implied.
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>>151578720
I need a break, anon.
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>>151578790
Cocona was literally me up until the point where she fell in love and found enduring happiness.

But before that she was literally me.
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>>151578790
Through Cockona, unity.
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I demand explanations for the last scene, they really did make me wonder for a second. That was also the first time 'real people' appeared in a Pure Illusion. What do they mean? Was this the "I'm adding a new layer to pure illusion" salt was talking about?

What was that "let's go back to the day cocona was born" was about, it didn't even happen. Also what was that option given by younger salt? Why did Mimi turned into loli mimi and normal mimi?

I'm confus.
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>>151578743
Can confirm. She frowns and shies away from head pats, but after a few seconds she leans in and puts her head on your chest.
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>>151578707
I'll be keeping an eye out for anything on 2ch and twitter around the time it happens. Might even find some information out soon. He is attending this tonight.

http://www.loft-prj.co.jp/schedule/lofta/54653

>>151578720
I probably will eventually in the not so far future but I don't think I could right now.
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>>151578541
I'd need to analyze the story further to form an absolute opinion to stand by. But as far as I'm aware there were a ton of red herrings and Thomassons in Flip Flippers imagery. Not to mention that most of the characters had very little relevance to the plot and one character with a distinct design showed up for about 2 minutes total.

I'm a huge fan of Eva and other shows that have a greater (not necessarily hidden) message. I also loved Madoka while it was airing. Decrypting Inu Curry's hidden message and predicting the story through foreshadowing with /a/ was a load of fun.

However, Flip Flappers just seemed really shallow. The early episodes of cute girls exploring fantasy worlds were admittedly fun. The overarching plot was simple and effective, but its presentation ruined the pacing of the show. All of the apparent "foreshadowing" just made it seem pretentious since there wasn't really much of a meaning behind the progression of events and the plot was, again, really simple but just hamfistedly obscured from the viewer.

Even now some things just make absolutely no sense, like Mimi's entire character. Her behavior and dissociative personalities aren't realistic or believable for a mother, even given her living circumstances. Why were there even multiple Mimis to begin with besides to set-up dramatic scenes which are ultimately resolved with a handwave and the power of friendship?
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>>151578720
You missed the stream yesterday. There were 110~120 active viewers the whole time. You missed the fun.
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>>151578826
But anon you too have a friend that loves you unconditionally
She's called alcohol
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What the fuck is Thomasson?
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>>151578791
you think she'd slip into her sleek black outfit from time to time and whip me with her tails?
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>>151578726
Wasn't disagreeing, my post was adding onto your post. I think this show is great. Some people did not pay attention and expected "PRETTY COLORS" for all 13 episodes. Other people expected Lord of the Rings or something despite the early episodes clearly showing what kind of show it is. I thought the story was great and the show is great in most ways I can think of.
>>
Why did Salt's voice changed from Sakurai to Tsuda during these ~10 years?
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>>151578834
>What was that "let's go back to the day cocona was born" was about
That's why Mimi gave Cocona to Papika and then blew into shards, and also why Papika de-aged.
The Mimi from the end, who had learned her lesson, influenced the Mimi from the flashback, who had not yet learned and orchestrated the events so that they would play out in the way that gave her daughter love and freedom in the end. Papika was Mimi's final gift to Cocona, but it was one that played out achronologically, because PI doesn't obey the same rules as the material world.
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>>151578904
Late a couple of months anon or did they had something else this episode?
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>>151578904
>It refers to a useless relic or structure that has been preserved as part of a building or the built environment, which has become a piece of art in itself.

In other words you are a good example of a Thomasson a useless thing that just exists
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>>151578856
There are not multiple Mimis. They are one and the same, it is just the dark Mimi is the supressed evil side that we all have inherently as humans. It is the voice on the edge of consciousness that says "I wonder what it would be like to kill a human, how would it feel".

Mimi just gave that side of her power over all other aspects because of fucking with PI too much.
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>>151576497
Not really an image but still my favourite
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>>151578955
Smoking.
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>>151578856
I just don't think you can apply the "RELEVANT TO THE PLOT OR USELESS" to a show like Flip Flappers. Everything in the first half had something to say (a point many people belabor endlessly), that doesn't mean that those things not mattering to the endgame makes them worthless. In the end it's still a story about Cocona first discovering herself and then dealing with her family issues, all the metaphors used to do that not forming a coherent whole is not a huge problem in my opinion.
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>>151578880
Not even alcohol can fill the hole that Flip Flappers will leave.
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Good shit.
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>>148509309
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>>151575617
>>have a great art direction
Character designs were shit. Without Pablo backgrounds it would be completely forgettable (as can be seen in later episodes where everything looks awful and generic)
>>good subtle writing
"""subtle"""
>>intriguing set up for a mystery
It helps when the writers themselves don't know what they're doing (hence why the second half is a clusterfuck)

Writer change doesn't change the fact that it was already a recipe for disaster from the start.
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>>151578848
Nice, if there isn't a flip flap thread whenever stuff happens, feel free to make a new thread to let us know new info is happening. I dont want to miss anything.
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>You'll never be a cute lesbian and go on crazy adventures with your dorky gf
Closest thing I have is SM. But Arorrraaaaa is shit so whatever.
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>>151578664
Yayaka always has a place where she can belong in my bed
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>>151579253
Doujins when?
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>>151579261
Over my dead body.
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>>151579269
Doujins of Lusamine when?
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>>151579209
And people feared that the animation would shit itself. Sasuga 3Hz.
>>
OLD INTERVIEW STUFF:
>Pure Illusion takes a different form every episode. Some times it is colorful and cute, other times it is dark and fearsome.
>Both the real world and the parallel world are important parts of the story.
>The show is cute and cheerful but it also has a darker story building up, heart-stinging drama and hair-rising moments.
>Papika may seem a bit pushy and she may do bad things at times but she doesn't do it out of malice.
>Cocona's personality can get pretty dark and cynical at times.
>Papika is actually meant to be a character hard to sympathize with at first, even for Cocona's VA. Her character is easier to understand as the show progresses.
>Yayaka is a very important key character, pay attention to her. The twins are cute but also messed up.
>The show becomes more fun with each passing episode but the story also gains more and more depth!
>The story has love-love developments as Cocona opens her heart to Cocona and also to the world.
>Episode 3 will start explaining the world view, debut of the magical girl forms.
>If you keep watching until episode 3 you won't be able to wait for episode 4 and if you watch episode 4 you won't be able to wait for episode 5 and so.
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>>151578856
There was plenty of actual foreshadwing and not just "foreshadowing" alot of people on /a/ had managed to predict a fair few of the later twists based on subtle details.

I read an interview with Cocona's VA yesterday and she was saying that Flip Flappers was never intended to be the kind of show that wants to tell you "this is the story being conveyed" but that people should watch it and come up with their own interpretations and those are just as much the truth. Basically saying Flip Flappers is just as much your story as anyone elses.

She also went on to say she would love to see a Yayaka spin off which was cool.
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I didn't understand episode 12 or 13 at all.
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>>151578809
Wow, clever! I don't have conceived until you pointed it. Objects in FliFla have symbolisms all around indeed.
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Based nyunyu
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>>151579209
I thought it was very interesting. Most of this scene was animated on the 2s, but a few moments shifted to on the 1s for a couple frames. It created a very interesting effect where the pace of the cut shifts between distinctly visible moments where you can absorb the details briefly, and frenetic explosions of movement difficult for the eye to track.
It was really well done.
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>>151577213
Sure takes a delusional flipflop fag to think this is "convincing" in any way.
>snow doesn't impede movement at all
>naruto running
>randomly disappear in snow
>clothes disintegrate away
it's literally like wolf children except bad.
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>>151579261
But Cocona, what about Papika?!
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I really liked it, quite enjoyable to watch something nice without sourcefags spoilering it
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>>151579343
>>Papika is actually meant to be a character hard to sympathize with at first
3Hz fucked up.
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>>148434383
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>>151579343
>Papika may seem a bit pushy and she may do bad things at times but she doesn't do it out of malice.

But she never did anything wrong
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>>151579363
This scene was so dumb I couldn't help but laugh.

Those two make such a great pair, they should get their own mini-series. 3 minute shorts with Bu & Nyu
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>>151579430
>he forgot about AB-chan already
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>>151579380
1/10 made me reply
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>>151579380
I'm embarrassed for you.
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>>151579269
Check the /u/ thread, already 2 or 3 in the making. But no porn.
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>>151579409
That's always difficult to do. Anno almost had a breakdown when people wouldn't stop fapping to Rei and Asuka.
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>>151579001
I understand that the multiple Mimis were just different facets of her personality. It just seemed strange that the main antagonist ended up being her overwhelming motherly instincts and how dark they portrayed said aspect of her.

A story which clashes motherly vs fatherly instincts/behavior and nature vs nurture sounds inherently interesting. I just don't think it was executed in a super effective way. Kinda makes me think production was rushed out the door instead of getting intricate planning that a show like this needs to be effective.

>>151579043
>I just don't think you can apply the "RELEVANT TO THE PLOT OR USELESS" to a show like Flip Flappers.
I totally agree, actually! Flip Flappers tries to deliver a message while also being a visual rollercoaster, which is really hard to pull off. There's obviously going to be Thomassons in the form of background imagery just like there was in Madoka. But it was just TOO loose with the imagery and foreshadowing.

Like I said, I enjoyed the early episodic adventures and their individual morals. I almost argued that I didn't like how Cocona was presented as a puppet early on, but now I realize that it was actually the whole purpose of her character to understand who she was. I think the transition from finding herself to the final arc was a little jenky, though.
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>>151579430
How about the fact that Cocona didn't love her at the start, Papika just kept forcing herself on her until Cocona gave in
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>>151579409
I don't know to reserved cultures her behaviour would seem very intrusive. Remember how much she annoyed Cocona in episode 2. Those are just the voice actresses opinions too.
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>>151579515
sometimes love is gradual, anon
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>>151579409
She is hard to sympathize with, we literally know nothing about her for the first what 6 episodes? She just appears after leaving another potential partner for dead and works as the friendly face of a weird and shady seeming organisation.

She is definitely hard to appreciate but once her backstory is revealed she makes sense.

Also, she finally made the choice between Mimi and Cocona this episode which is complete character growth from the almost childish selfishness and desire for everything to be perfect that she previously displayed.
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>>151578385
Oh right, so this was what Hidaka was talking about when he was going off at them for letting their impedance desynch.
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>>151579515
That's how love works.
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>>151579430
Remember that time Papika forced Cocona on a magical isekai adventure against her will and put her in all sorts of danger without once asking if this is what she wanted?
Good times.

The first two episodes were like those doujins where the cute schoolgirl gets raped until she likes it and then her mind breaks and she lives happily ever after with her newfound love.

Papika apologized for none of it. She just wanted to get going on the next adventure right away. Fill her up with so much adventure that she shits rainbows and shames her mother.
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>>148479157
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>>151579430
>she never did anything wrong
She'd been abducting random middleschoolers clapping them in bondage leathers and squeezing into a box with them until they cry and pass out
Then conveniently forgot about it after she found ccn
Imagine being "another bust" chan, waking up alone and scared and having to walk home dressed like this
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>>151579515
Just like my hentai
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>>151579611
>She'd been abducting random middleschoolers clapping them in bondage leathers and squeezing into a box with them until they cry and pass out
I know what I want to do with my life now.
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>>151579595
I want a papika to force me into fun adventures.
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>>151579611
wew lad
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>>151579644
Be sure to dress appropriately
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>>151579317
Can Lillie reject you if you name your chicken after Yayaka?
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>>151579611
>Wake up exhausted from the multiple orgasms this strange cute girl gave you
>No one is around so you have to walk home like this
>Spend every night masturbating to the memory of the unforgettable things she did to you
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>>151579515
>Papika just kept forcing herself on her until Cocona gave in
You make it sound like a bad thing.
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>>151579698
Well, she does end up leaving you forever once the story is over anyways.
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>>151579409
I've seen plenty of complaints about Papika being annoying and pushy early on. It's a huge part of the reason why the show started out as an underdog.
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Are we all in PI right now?
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>>151579646
>tfw no manic pixie dreamcake to rescue anon from his inability to grow up
Cocona doesn't realize how good she has it
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>>151579504
My real feeling about it is that it just felt like the director and writer had come up with this story to tell but due to their inexperience it was just going to be impossible to fit into 13 episodes and do a good job with. It seems like there is quite a bit of fat that could be trimmed, trying to shove every single cool idea they got related to the characters and show/story they had in there and not just picking the best most refined bits. Shoving the majority of the meat of the plot into the last 4-5 episodes probably wasn't the greatest of plans either.

On top of that the show just wasn't concentrated enough thematically, there are a lot of themes that are introduced especially through Cocona and a lot of them seem fairly similar but never quite the same I think. Somehow it just doesn't quite feel like it manages to keep on some strong thematic core throughout the shows length. I can see what they were going for in places with various bits and pieces but at the end of it I still feel kind of like. So what exactly were you getting at here?

All that said still my AOTY.
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>Interesting first half
>Super generic second half

Hello darkness my old friend
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>>151579698
>>151579790
Lillie even gives you her pet to keep company while she's gone
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>>151578856
>Her behavior and dissociative personalities aren't realistic or believable for a mother
But perfectly believable for a test subject who was denied basic freedoms her whole life.

And what the hell does being a mother have to do with mental stability? There are a lot of effed up moms in the world.
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>>151579863
>half
More like two thirds and last third, which just makes it sting even harder.
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>>151579812
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>>151579863
First of all, it's more like two thirds to one third.
Secondly, more generic is not the same as super generic. There's still not that many shows like the endgame of Flip Flappers.
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>>151579855
To summerize
>Oshiyama is not a writer
>Oshiyama is not a series composer
>There was no series composer responsible for the show
So it turned out to have structural and compositional issues.
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>>151579894
He looks so tired.
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>>151579875
Fuck, there's no god.
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The ending was cute, but you could feel the severe lack of build-up in this episode, due to the very poor direction during the last 3-4 episodes.

Many scenes this episode just... happened.
Think of Papika and Cocona's confession to each other. Sure, it's been crystal clear throughout most of the series they're gay for each other, but the execution was lack-lustre - no special focus, no time-stop like effects, no touching music, none of the things you would expect for a moment like this one.

Evil Mimi's defeat, just happened. Hell, during this episode she just seemed silly.

Papika's deaging? Not even explained. It just happened.

It really feels like they should have planned the final part of the series better, trim all the unnecessary stuff, and focus on the essentials so that they could deliver them with a bang.

Mind you, I still think this is one of the best anime this year, but I really feel this could have been a lot more. This could have been one of those anime people would consider as one of the great ones - or, at least, develop a decent cult following. However, the pacing at the end was really, really bad.
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>>151579894
i want salt to sexually assalt me
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>>151579812
>watch anime for escapism and entertainment
>it loops back around to being dreary reality
>except there's no Papika to save us

Get the noose ready for me.
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>>151579920
It wasn't just him doing it though. Him and Yuniko did it together just both of them have never done an original before.
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>>151579977
Yuniko didn't manage series composition for the whole show.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait....

I just realised that Dr. Salt was a joke on Dr. Pepper....

Holy shit... did anyone else miss this?
Am I the only one this retarded?
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>>151579920
Series composer is not a profession, anon.
It generally just means an additional director, scriptwriter or boardroom bigwig was taken on to assist in the planning of the scenario. This isn't always necessary, and the actual credit for series composition is typically just given to people who were indirectly involved in the project but need to be included in the credits for business reasons, like when one of their major sponsors or production committee members tells them "you must do things this way or else we won't give you money"
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So who exactly is Bu-chan's brain?
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>>151580028
It's Bu-chan's brain.
Bu-chan is Bu-chan.
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>>151579949
>no time-stop like effects
what
>no touching music
you fucking take that back, the piano version of Flip Flap Flip Flap is amazing

>Evil Mimi's defeat, just happened.
yeah that went by pretty quickly, but I don't know if we needed another DBZ fight either

>Papika's deaging? Not even explained. It just happened.
It's reasonably clear if you think about it.
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>>151576497
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>>151579380
This. It looks animated by someone who doesn't know how to draw. The disappearing in snow thing just looks like a lazy shortcut to avoid drawing in perspective.
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>>151580028
whoever it was, he must have been a legend
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>>151580023
How is that even similar? Even with your post I'm still missing what do you mean.
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>>151576566
tsurui!
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>>151580055
I agree with you, but I do want to know how and why loli papicoco escaped PI.
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>>151580026
Okay my words were too succinct for you.
>Oshiyama has no experience for series composition.
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>>151579253
Anon grab my boobs
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>>151579409
>>151579409
She was cute, but she could definitely come off as pushy and inconsiderate in the beginning.
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>>151580091
Mimi gave Cocona too much free agency and she used it to break Papika out of tree jail.
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>>151579611
Who was she?
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>>151579812
/a/ is the comfiest PI
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>>151580129
I get that much, I just wanted to see the loli adventures that lead to them getting outside.
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>>151579949
inb4 someone calls you a shitposter because you dared have a negative opinion of Flip Flappers
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Papika is old enough to be her mother and watched her be birth. Why does she want to rub tacos with her?
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>>151580002
I am talking about what Oshiyama said in his interview in Megami magazine. He said for the concept and composition him and Yuniko did it together and then they got Hayashi to write the later scripts due to the schedule.
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>>151580080
>he
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>>151580182
She fell in love.
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>>151580103
>Okay my words were too succinct for you.
No dear, you're just playing with ideas too big for you.
Let's talk about the process of anime production, and the skills and pedigrees that go into it when you've better informed yourself.
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>>151580142
Some rando Flip Flap part-timer. I will say again that there isn't much indication that she's dead, even if Papika implies that PI is dangerous enough for that later. In my opinion it's one of the more irritating loose ends, but I can still explain it away just fine.
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>>151572172

Ikusei Keikaku Restart.

If it gets another season.
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>>151580182
She's Cocona's age now, who gives a fuck?
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>White
>Pure
>Illusions
Everything makes sense now.
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>>151580241
It unironically sold worse than flifla, I wouldn't count on an S2
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>>151575398
It was a slightly-off PI that I theorize Salt created as the 'layer' to fight off Mimi's influence.

Like he had to create something, so he created a PI that looks like the real world but just slightly wrong. There's also no promising that the real world is real either.

Which leads to: >>151578809

There's probably no way to give a definitive answer. The last scene with them leaving that PI really solidified it all.
>>151579001
The other Mimi and the scene with Salt's past self speaking to him makes episode 5 make a bit more sense. In PI one can 'swap' with their other half, but when Cocona and Papika entered together they became their own other-halves, with the whole being a creative agent (Iro)

Which also leads to the likelyhood that it is all just PI.
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>>151580055
>what
You know. that effect in which time seems to stop (or slow down) in order to make it seem like the world is limited to just those two characters.


>you fucking take that back, the piano version of Flip Flap Flip Flap is amazing
You could barely even listen to it.
This is one of the scenes in which the music should start slowly and low but builds up as the characters start talking out their feelings and the music reaches its highest point right at the point of the confession.

>It's reasonably clear if you think about it.
I really don't agree. It seems rather messy to me.
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>>151580241
So I take it that Restart is monumentally better than the original then, because I sure wasn't very impressed by random mahou shoujo blobs offing each other for shock value.
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>>151580162
Me too. An OVA of that is what I want the most right now.
>>151579961
At least it has shown at the end that we as well live in PI. The one question is HOW CAN WE ESCAPE?
>>151579894
He's ripped as fuck.
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Fuuuuuuuuuug
>>148474404
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>>151580267
At least anon is translating the novels
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So this show is basically a fantasy ripoff of Lain with multiple Wireds and a happy ending, right?
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>>151580267

You mean like FF?

Also, novels got a big boost and it's discussed everywhere.

Sales barely matter when it comes to more seasons. Look at all crappy haremshits that got S2 despite laughable sales.
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>>151580264
She regained her memories.
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>>151580241
Ikusei Keikaku and Shakunetsu both need S2s but I doubt it's gonna happen. All the crazier stuff happens later on.

>>151580301
>The one question is HOW CAN WE ESCAPE?

Believe me, that's what I want to know.
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>>151580301
>The one question is HOW CAN WE ESCAPE?

The show gave you the answer: Love. Good luck.
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>>151576497
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>>151580291

It's like 3 times better.

First arc is a prelude and it's by far the weakest in the series.
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>>151580183
I am talking about how Yuniko didn't manage or plan for the latter half which was why the plot seems inconsistent.
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>>151580268
>The other Mimi and the scene with Salt's past self speaking to him makes episode 5 make a bit more sense. In PI one can 'swap' with their other half, but when Cocona and Papika entered together they became their own other-halves, with the whole being a creative agent (Iro)
Now I get it, you're a fucking genius. They only survived DPI because of each other, this makes absolute sense.

Someone give this anon a medal.
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>>151579961
>>except there's no Papika to save us
Shame there's no merch, I'd buy a Papika figure to save me
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>>151580378
>the plot seems inconsistent.
Yeah it's a shame none of that symbolism or foreshadowing in the first half came to fruition
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>>151580301
>An OVA of that is what I want the most right now.

What I want is an episode long epilogue that is just fun times and additional closure/relationship stuff for Papika, Cocona, Yayaka, Salt and flip flap members.
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>>151580267
Advert for the source material etc.

>>151580291
Original was the author's first LN. Apparently he learned a lot of lessons from it which he applied to restart.
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>>151580378
It was planned from the start anon, I think they just overestimade how much they could put in an episode
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>>151580048
Thanks Papika.
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>>151580370
WE'RE DOOMED.

Do you love me anon?
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>>151578631
I complained a lot about the finale and it left a bad taste in my mouth, but I'm still sad that the show ended. It was something different and endearing and I hope we get something like it every now and then.
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>>151580455
Not even anon loves anon.
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>>151580455
You mean as a friend?
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>>151580508
Why the fuck would you ask that
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>>151580508
Good, I'm yayaka now.

Does this mean I get to take care of a green bunny?
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>cocona sounded like she was dying here
My sides.
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>>151580235
>be Papika's partner
>dies or get injured or whatever
>Papika doesn't give any fuck and simply go seeking for someone else with a smile in her face
>not even once mentions the poor girl
Papika is a cold motherfucker. Is Cocona aware she'd be getting the same treatment if she wasn't Mimi's daughter?
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>>151576566
you made me do this
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>>151580560
It's amazing that she had such a complex over that birthmark that it was physically painful for her to look at her own leg. Poor girl, this is why she needs Papika to give them the attention they deserve.
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>>151580602
There's something I haven't seen in a long while.
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>>151577133
Literally Pure Delusion. This is nowhere AOTY's level.
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>>151580602
oh god now that's a meme i haven't seen in a long time, almost brought a tear to my eye
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>>151580359
Papicake somehow manages to be ridiculously sexy for a butch.
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>>151580602
Is Papika Mexican?
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What was that creepy strange sound effect during this cut? Didn't hear it watching for the first time
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>>151580638
I don't think it's actually AOTY but it's up there.
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>>151580560
The look of cluelessness in Papika's face is glorious
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>>151580670
She does want to rub tacos with Cocona after all.
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>>151580602
>Moot
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>>151580212

I wish I was a cute gay girl. More than anything.
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>>151580431
Yeah I think this is what has happened. Yuniko didn't write the latter half and the latter did turn out to be much more than her estimation if it was going by her plan.
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>>151580638
Do you think they are ever going to accept it? They are too invested in it to see how much it really sucks.

There's a name for that, I can't remember it right now.
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>>151580747
>There's a name for that, I can't remember it right now.

shitposting
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Shin-chan movie 24 was a better Flip Flappers than Flip Flappers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4QUm4ghdRQ
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Does anyone have the picture of papika with the "panic" text? sorry for the request, i love you guys
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>>151580675
old school TVs make that sound when you turn the volume up
i don't know
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>>151580675
Sounds like construction somewhere outside
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>>151580431
They also overestimated how much people would give a shit about Mimi.
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>>151580789
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>>151580417
Why so hostile? I'm making no points of what you are talking about. It's simply a time to imagine how Oshiyama's next work would be made better and what lessons can be learned.
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>>151580781
Subs when?
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>>151580638
What's your AOTY anon? Mine's Flip Flappers!
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>>151580055
I figured the tree prison contains Papikas previous life as a test test subject, it grew larger and more prison-like as she got younger and more innocent.
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>>151580808
I liked Mimi, she was a bombshell and an erogenous black hole.
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>>151580827
Cocona probably got a little bit wet in this entire sequence.
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>>151580588
Papika didn't even have her memories of Mimi when she abandoned "another bust". Cocona was just as eligible to be abandoned up until episode 7.
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>>151580675
PIs come with their own bgm.
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>>151580820
thanks anon
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>>151580868
>a little
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>>151580675
Aside from LIE news and Sayuri's hands when she brings them together, the only other thing sounds like a jackhammer or far-off foghorn.
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Reminder that this whole show is a representation of a mother struggling with the fact that her daughter is in love with her best friend.

And the whole dual persona of Mimi is a representation of how women become even more batshit insane after they get impregnated and have a child.
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Why crocodile tho.
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Nice try, cant flip flap me.
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>>151580384
Sarcasm?

Yes, they only didn't get trapped in DPI because they relied on each other. Their other half would seem to be their actual desires, but magnified to an extreme degree (seen in episode 3 with the mask.)

If one entered by themselves, if what Mimi did is the norm, then when they chose to switch then the real half would be stuck in either with the parents or aunt forever. If Salt chose to switch then the same thing would happen Their other half would take over the role they have failed in while they themselves would be trapped somewhere in PI.

Real Mimi probably can't leave PI, though we don't know if anything in the series was actually outside of PI. Something was suppressing her even after her other half was erased. It could be that her other half still exists.

The other half is, of course, just a person's suppressed inner feelings and such, and when the switch is made their real self becomes suppressed

This means Mimi cannot control DPI, because she was influenced by it to switch with her other half. This might provide fodder for a bad second season about the real mastermind behind it all. The KKK knows this if the twins were telling the truth, but they all seem to be dead. The twins are still alive so a second season really could work.
>>151580602
who is 'moot'?
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>>151580878
The music in this scene made me shiver. Why didn't they use it in the 5th episode? Or did they?
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>>151580950
I like how he actually kinda resembles his namesake in this form
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>>151580827
I feel silly for even pointing this out, but I feel like I have to considering the comprehension level and attention span of some posters in these threads:

It's an obvious callback/parallel to Mimi and Papika's first trip to PI.
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>>151580916
She looks ready for giney jousting.
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How does the scene at the start of ep 13 with the young Papika meeting Cocona relate to the events that happen in episode 1 and onwards?
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>>151580827
>that very quick cheek nuzzle by Cocona

I can't get over it. Why is their love so pure?
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>>151579451
Glad I'm not the only one. Robot with brain organs and loli bait insert work so cute together. Just her saying her name and doing robot part stripping shed me a bit of hope while Mimi went bonkers...

Also already sent this for the collage, but thought I share the happy feelings. I wouldn't mind a OVA "if" it is necessary to continue, but Epi. 13 already wraps its ribbons. I don't think I can exhaust my brain enough for a sequel. Spin-off maybe...
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>>151580967
>implying anyone missed that
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>>151580781
No need to shitpost but it's pretty good, I recommend it to people that liked Flip Flappers. Don't get fooled by the fact that it's Shin-chan, the movie is pretty emotional. The main story is basically the main characters trying to help a little girl that hates herself because she blames herself for her mother's death.
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>>151580916

Cockona is imaging what their future children will look like.
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>>151580978
This is just my theory but I think young Cocona became her partner in exploring the PI and they got separated somehow
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>>151580949
Rolling Girls reference
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>>151580976
You can bet there'll be some clam combat when they land
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>>151581015
cute
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>>151581028
you'd be surprised at some of the shit people have been considering mindblowing realizations before.
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>>151581034
While Papika's already planning to offer them to Yayaka.
Gotta continue the family tradition.
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>>151580967
Every time they entered a PI they fell from the sky. Hell one episode is about them getting separated while falling.
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>>151581100
>Fell from the sky
>INTO THE SKY right at the OP

Hmmm
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Should've dropped this pile of shit after ep.3 when it already looked mediocre.
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>>151580378
Here is the interview and relevant text from it what the director actually said happened on the production. Yuniko didn't write the later episodes but it says here Oshiyama and her did the composition together after the concept was settled. Later on in this same section it says that the writer for 8-13 was brought in due to the schedule being tight and that it really helped out.

全体的なス卜ーリーに関しても監督の手が入っているのでしょうか?

そうですね。作品のコンセプトが決まった時点で、綾余ゆにこさんに入っていただき共同で構成を組み立てていきました。
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>>151581034
It's going be another Mimi and Cocona situation, her child is going to look exactly like her despite Papika's genes. And then they can give her to an adult Yayaka like >>151581074 mentioned.
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>>151580123
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Easy way to make episode 13 better:

>Cocona hears about PI from Sayuri
>visits Hidaka, who anxiously does his babble about PI having disappeared
>shows her a flat waveform which hints that the PI is gone once and for all
>well-animated scene of Cocona realizing the terrible truth that Papika has disappeared forever
>cue sakuga crying
>later, a depressed Cocona meets Yayaka at school, who starts to apologize
>slightly uplifted, Cocona accepts her apology and their arc is concluded
>suddenly when all hope seems lost, Yayaka mentions that she's taking care of Uexkull
>Cocona sees Uexkull, suddenly realizes that he's different and realizes they're still in PI
>play Over the Rainbow while Cocona starts running towards the pipe to find Papika
>same ending sequence or whatever

So it's more or less the exact same sequence of events except done a bit differently. Bam, instant improvement.
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>Mad Max

Great taste.
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Why didn't he spin?
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>>151580961
Reminds me of final fantasy.
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>>151581184
Hokuto no Ken anon probably killed himself
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>>151580961
This scene was pretty funny
>Yayaka, take me to my girlfriend who NTRd you and is actually my childhood friend I've known for way longer than you
>Nope, sorry
>Why?
>Can't
>Why not?
>It's uh, well you see, it's all broke and stuff now. Nothin's workin' so I can't help you, sorry. Trust me I've tried, really.
She stopped just short of offering to be her Papika for the night.
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>>151581156
>meme op
Fuck off.
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>>151580916
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>>151581303
Did you notice the part where that was linked while we were still on page one, and almost at 500 posts on the nose?

It's just a shitposter.
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>>151580916
Jesus is that her cum face?
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>>151581342
Yes anon, everyone is a shitposter.
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I still don't get that early thing, where robots captured them after ED. What was that about?
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>>151581372
That OP is preety shitty and literally begging for shitposting
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I think I speak for everyone here when I say this was the best anime since YuYuYu
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>>151581388
Same. Also, Mimi said about Cocona's father. Who was the father? They never explained it
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>>151581430
Ange Vierge was fun, but yeah I kinda agree
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I back from my outing. Will work on the cards later on today.
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>>151581291
It was worse than that, since Yayaka had to admit it wouldn't work between them.

I would have liked some short timeskip with Yayaka, at least, getting Yuyu (and maybe Nyunyu too).
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>>151581430
I want to disagree with you on principle, but I can't.
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>Naked feral child Papika and child Cocona bonding
My heart clenched at that scene. They're so goddamn cute together ;_;
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>>151581430
Fuu is ugly.
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>>151581467
AV would've been my AOTY if this hadn't stuck the landing, but boy did it stick the landing.
I haven't genuinely enjoyed a show this much in its entirety in years. Certainly not this decade.
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>>151581150
Interesting to see after all the memes about the writers that have flown around.
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>>151581489
I wanted more closure on the twins (and Nyunyu) in general. They're the amorphous children, they work under the KKK and after that is disbanded/destroyed, what, they just go back to school? That's it?
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>>151581444
>Who was the father? They never explained it
Are you retarded and watched with your eyes closed? or am I missing something? Dr. Salt is the father.
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Concrete pipe papika watching you masturbate.
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Real fucking talk

Are we going to get figma's from this series? I'm not a buyfag but I'd probably trade my left nut to have the three Flappers on my desk.
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>>151581522
Maybe they all got adopted by the FF members?
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>>151581489
I realised this ep that all these PI adventures were just an extended metaphor for their lesbian relationship.

This anon was actually on to something.
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>>151581553
''What the hell is this slut doing''
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>>151581568
i got some flappers for ya big boy
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>>151581150
So in the end scheduling ruined everything. Jesus christ.
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>>151581540
Not him but we don't know that for sure. PI can make happen anything. She could got pregnant while on the run with Papikana
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>>151581596
w-what do you mean?
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>>151581586
Are we back to 'developing your queerness' theory?
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>>151581476
Four hours until submissions close?
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>>151581568
Wonfes in February

I think we might get a nendorid or a prize figure if we're lucky but that's it, show doesn't even have keychains
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>>151581496
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>>151581639
16 hours, its at 9pm pst
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>>151581608
When Papika and Cocona were fighting the evil Mimi, good Mimi literally says to Salt "our daughter".
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>>151581586
>screencapping your own crackpot theories
Anon please, you're better than this.
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>>151581604
Well the actual story itself probably would have been the same thing but the way it was written might have been different.
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>>151581608
Mimi had something to tell Salt before he pissed her off.

What could it possibly be? He knew immediately when he saw Cocona.

We've been theorizing that Salt was the father since the beginning.
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>be a lonefag
>no dreams
>live idly
>yfw no Papika to bring colour into your world
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Sad!
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Like a lot of people here I thought the ending was rushed, but all of the posts calling this show an EVA ripoff convinced me to finally watch EVA. On episode 8 and it's pretty awesome, actually. Glad I picked it up.
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>>151581430
I speak for myself when i say that i agree with you, and that before FlipFlap YuYuYu was the last time i spent over a grand on an Anime.
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>>151581676
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>>151581787
Are you feeling the writer change?
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>>151581580
Everyone living as a big happy family?

What does Flip Flap even do anymore now that Mimi has recollected her shards? Study Papika and Cocona's lesbian adventures?
>>
>>151581787
Don't forget to watch EoE once you're done with the TV series
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>>151581513
On a side note, they better remove at least 80% of the censor beams from the BD's
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>>151581787
You were on /a/ without Eva under your belt? It's required watch for any anime fan.
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>>151580182
Anime lets you get away with anything.
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>>151581852
BDs are already out, lightbeams are canon.
God bless Saya
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Who else is sad we didn't get a really dark and depressing ending?
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>>151581827
I suppose, since Hidaka did seem genuinely interested in studying PI, and Salt was also originally a researcher for PI.

Considering Cocona and Papika will continue their gaydventures there, they can keep studying it.
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>>151581673
Can you post the pasta again? Working on one now.
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>>151581673
My phone says it's 5pm in Los Angeles right now.
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Why do people migrate to threads with OPs designed to invite shitposting and give a false impression of the reception of the shows final episode? This thread was relatively civil but that one linked before is already full of shit.
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>>151581890
The kind of ending they were aiming for was actually perfect, with Cocona still being in PI all along. The kind of happy ending that makes sense.
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>>151581686
No, I have a small folder of these. one or two are my own but not that one.
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>>151581827
The better question is: now that Mimi is whole again, what would happen to Nyunyu and the other amorphous children? They are made of Mimi shards, and I imagine she want them returned.
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>>151581890
A sad ending wouldn't have fit this story.
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>>151581635
This is where the extended metaphor angle really hit me.
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>>151581890
Fuck that. I wanted Papika and Cocona to be happy together and it happened. Even if they couldn't tie up the last arc in a nice little package, that was all I needed or else I would have drank myself into Pure Delusion.

>>151581936
She's not in PI anymore though. The grim reality was a Pure Illusion and they escaped it.
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>>151581901
see
>>151575581
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>>151581901

>>151575581


>>151581919
I don't see the problem
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>>151581931
Because anons are simple-minded creatures conditioned by the general mindset.
They follow where the crosslink is instead of looking through the board's pages or the catalog to find a decent thread themselves.
>>
The only problems I had with this series:
>A bit late introducing an actual story
>What was the purpose of Nyu other than pushing Yayaka's limits and shooting things?
>Yuyu doesn't have the cute snake cast anymore
Other than that the series was around an 8/10
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>>151581962
It's never stated that they're literally made out of shards, probably just engineered to function like shards and travel to PI
Besides, all of the shards home in on CCN and merge at the end of ep10, nyunyu was fine then
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>>151581635
>developing your queerness
what in the actual fuck

is this one of those libtard indoctrination?
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I... I drew a thank you to 3Hz.
I hope they like it.
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>>151582003
It's worse when we have fucking 5 threads up at the same time.
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>>151581890
No, since they were pretty good in handling stuff in the previous PIs they went into.
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>>151582034
I don't know about the other questions, but Nyunyu's purpose is to please my dick.
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>>151582042
Nice job with the colors.
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new thread >>151581260
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>>151582090
Now this is shitposting
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>>151582058
>not posting in all five threads
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generalfags begone
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>>151582002
>>151581673
>16 hours, its at 9pm pst
>9pm
>>151575581
9:00 am

That was the problem.
>>
and i thought kiznaiver would be the worst show of the year
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>>151582190
Sad!
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>>151582034
They wanted a twintail loli
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>>151582190
come on now you tried way too hard
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>>151581980
better not-kiss than yuri on ice
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>>151582041
At first glance, Flip Flappers is a story about two girls journeying inside self-contained, surreal worlds to obtain gems that will grant a wish. Upon further investigation though, each episode is both a vignette that contains homosexual tropes and an insight into Cocona's coming-to-terms with her suppressed sexuality. The first episode is reminiscent of many one-shot yuri stories where very briefly, you collide with another girl and end up developing feelings for her.

In the second and third episodes, sexual undertones creep up and are established for the majority of the show. In the second universe they travel to, Cocona and Papika are transformed into rabbit-like girls, with an inherent hunger to 'bite things'. Papika, being the free creatures that she is, goes ahead and searches for the first thing she can get her hands on. Cocona on the other hand, relentlessly tries to curb her hunger. She salivates to gnaw, but it is only when she is constantly surrounded by phallic imagery that she gives into her impulses, and finds something to bite on. In the third episode, Cocona and Papika land in a Mad Max: Fury Road-like world where Papika must save Cocona, who has been possessed by an evil mask given to her by an extremely sexual being. Cocona only breaks out of her mask when she realizes she doesn't actually dislike Papika. The imagery in both of these episodes strongly suggests that Cocona has sexual feelings, but does her best to hide them, in an attempt to be the quiet 'good girl' stereotype we often expect from young girls in society.
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>>151582344
*cringe*
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>>151582344

Once you scratch an itch however, it only becomes bigger. Episode 5 takes Cocona and Papika to a horror landscape, filled with homages not just to horror movies but also girl/girl tropes we often find in anime. Here, Cocona and Papika are trapped in an all-girls school where they are forced to loop their close interactions and monotonous class activities over and over. The stagnancy and horror of these bonds never going past 'friendship' text is incredibly similar to the Class S genre that we find in manga. Cocona ultimately decides to break this safety net of never reaching a threshold and breaks the loop. It's not just a step forward in Cocona understanding her budding feelings for Papika but a step forward in Cocona understanding that she can no longer ignore her lack of self awareness.
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>>151582387
Episode 6 and 7 bring that realization to a whole new light through the lenses of a friend's memories and society. In Episode 6, Cocona and Papika immerse themselves in a flashback of Iroha connecting with her aunt. Iroha as a child suffers from anxiety, loneliness and oppressive parents and thus finds solace in her Aunt's kindness and warmth. Many of the messages in this episode are just as applicable to the discovery of being queer as they are to the importance of creativity:
Hushed whispers and oppressive color duality hint that Iroha's aunt may have been queer as well, but perhaps the most striking subtlety is when we see that out of the two, Cocona is the one to fully immerse herself in the memory, as if she deeply connects with it. This overlaps with Episode 7, the pinnacle of Cocona's self exploration as she cycles through stereotypes of anime relationships - the Bad Boy, the Punk Boy, the Little Sister, the Creepy Obsessive Stalker - in the attempts of finding a box she can fit her relationship with Papika into. Her journey shows her that they are all of these and yet none of them; isolated and fractured reflections, nothing more. It is only when she stumbles upon a more sexual Papika in a love hotel where she gets her answer: the one who's lost isn't Papika, but Cocona, in determining what Papika really is to her.
And it all comes clear in that moment: No one grows up, asking to be queer. Cocona certainly didn't. It happens to you, like a faceless ghost in a dark corridor, like a gnawing need, like a relentless brutal fight, like an messy canvas filling up with colors and shapes. It is terrifying. It is wondrous. It's weird, messy and joyful. It makes no sense and will continue to bite at you through your experiences and relationships until you learn that it's inherently a part of you, and that's okay.
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>>151582344
I don't know what fucking website you found that copypasta on but take it somewhere else. No one cares that you can regurgitate some other persons opinion verbatim
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>>151582387
>Once you scratch an itch however, it only becomes bigger.
>>
Is it pasta time?

Based on its director Kiyotaka Oshiyama's Space Dandy episode, I'd initially expected Flip Flappers to be mostly a whimsical visual showcase, delighting in adventure without having much more to say. I'd have been happy enough with that, but the ultimate show ended up being so much more. From its first joyous adventures onward, Flip Flappers consistently builds a sturdy and poignant story of identity, family, and human connection, with protagonist Cocona learning to express and love herself all along the way. All of that would already make Flip Flappers exactly my kind of show, but Flip Flappers’ true genius is how much of its storytelling and character writing goes completely unsaid. Nearly everything that is critical to Flip Flappers’ story is revealed not through dialogue, but through subtext and thoughtful visual storytelling. By conveying even its narrative fundamentals through backgrounds, art design, and animation, Flip Flappers is able articulate its story gracefully in a way that makes its narrative not just consciously understood, but truly felt in an aesthetic sense. Flip Flappers shines as both character story and adventure serial, but it also stands as a confident, imaginative, and consistently beautiful example of visual storytelling done right.

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