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Was Kira really an effective villain in comparison to all the

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Was Kira really an effective villain in comparison to all the other side villains we saw in part 4? Or was he weak when it comes to the big villains of JoJo overall?
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>>151547710
yea he was pretty good
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>>151547710
His sexy dad game was on point, and that's all that matters.
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>>151547710
I've read that text somewhere before. If only I was motivated enough to think about it more.

He looks better with the black hair, though.
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>>151547806
Killer Queen did nothing wrong.
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>>151547806
>Kira didnt win
>we will NEVER have yoshikage family slice of life
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Anyone who loses with a power like BtD is just a full on autist.
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>>151548129
>tfw no SOL about how Shinobu's constant handjobs allow Kira to live a peaceful life without blowing up sluts
>tfw no European holiday arc where they go to the Louvre


>>151548181
>needs a non-Stand User to activate
>can't protect yourself from attacks while it's activated
>anime Kira doesn't know when Josuke and Co. are actually going to explode

Bite the Dust has some pretty legit weaknesses, especially when you don't have the time to find out how it actually works.
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>>151547838
The theater shooter
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>>151547710
He was shit, He might killed one of Jotaro's crew in part 3 at best, but he would've gotten obliterated right after. Vanilla Ice level without the immortal user.
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>>151547710
Kira's a smooth motherfucker and only less entertaining than part 1 Dio so that's saying a lot
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>>151547710
The man looks like David Bowie,has a hand fetish,has a stand that's a pink catman,said stand can allahu akbar things,has a second ability that's a mixture of a tank a homing landmine and a roomba,has the power to FUCKING GO BACK IN TIME,accidentally saved a marriage,almost killed the entire cast once and has a goddamn catplant that shoots air bubbles which he turns to invisible bombs.

have i made my point yet OP ?
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>>151548670
>no space after commas
>space question mark
Shoo shoo dirty European
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He wasn't effective, but he had a lot of luck and a literal guardian angel, which made him fearsome.

I would have liked if Araki played the mistery surrounding him a little more, make their chase of Kira a little more like a detective/noir stand story, because Kira's forte and main motivation was hiding it.

I liked his final fight more than Dio's final fight, but to be fair Dio's fight was overall better. If you compare him with Pucci, Valentine and Diego he doesn't shine that much in his final fight, but invisible bombs were sick.
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>>151548181

Kira only lost because he had to face Hayato, an even bigger autist and ballsiest JoJo character ever. I wish he were in Jojolion.
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>>151547710
I think he's cool, I just wish he managed to kill someone in the main crew.
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>>151549249
Saving Okuyasu after he'd been vaporised was a massive arsepull but it made me feel better than giving Kira a good villain point would have.
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>>151549385
He could've killed Jotaro or Koichi in Sheer Heart Attack. It's not like either of them did much after that anyway (well, ignoring later parts at least).

And I fucking love Okuyau's asspull revival, no way would I want to take that out.
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For a guy with no weaknesses he sure had a lot of weaknesses

But damn was he fun
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Was he supposed to be clown-ish? Because that's what I got from him.
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>>151551363
The "no weaknesses" was for Sheer Heart Attack and to be honest, I think it's a pretty reasonable assumption to make. It's a very strong ability.
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>>151549249
fuck off edgelord
Not to mention, he killed shigechi
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I think the real question is, how did Kira go unnoticed for so long when he did really stupid things with the hands in the first place?
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>>151549249
This. I was happy when he killed that faggot Rohan. But then he revived because of time loop asspull bullshit.
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>>151553255
Shigechi doesn't count as someone in the main crew. ANd how am I an edgelord for thinking it might be better that a serial killer actually succeeds at killing some dudes?
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>>151548292
>Bite the Dust has some pretty legit weaknesses, especially when you don't have the time to find out how it actually works.

Every weakness can be prevented by not shouting your name out loud in the street like an autist.
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>>151553255
Shigechi was literally introduced in order for Kira to kill someone, no one cares about him

>dies literally one arc after he's introduced
>exacty same thing happens to Aya right after Shigechi's death
At least the anime gave us some breathing room before his death.
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>>151547838
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>>151547710
Kira's probably the most well-rounded villain aside from Pucci or Valentine.

I mean, what's his competition?

>Dio starts out with flaws in Phantom Blood, but then just loses pretty much all of his fun traits and quirks in Stardust Crusaders.
>Diavolo is just "reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee no one must find out who i am ever" with no details given about him to make you care. (Doppio was funny, though)
>Kars is an even more boring Perfect Cell.
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>>151556829
>well-rounded villain
Those are boring.
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>>151547710
His stand might not be as OP as other villain stands (apart from Bites the Dust which has major flaws like leaving him defenseless) but he was good at playing hide and seek.
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>>151549589
Have Kira kill Koichi and then instead of him stopping Kira's hand from activating BtD, it's Okuyasu.

And then have Okuyasu also be the one that starts part 5.
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>>151548129
Would have been hilarious if he had knocked up Shinobu before he died and the child inherited Killer Queen.
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>>151556980
>a villain with actual depth that makes him understandable and thereby more terrifying is boring
>DIO just being evil because he's evil and being completely unrelatable is interesting
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Considering he has no great ambition and simply wishes to lead a calm life while murdering woman he is fairly terrifying since he wouldn't be making people go after him normally.

His powers are fairly good too. If you don't know how the stand works, a single punch barrage is enough to fuck you over if he touches you with his right hand, and if that's not enough bite the dust can be used to reverse time and allow him a chance to counter what happens. Assuming there is a normal person nearby for him to use.

Sheer heart attack is also extremely dangerous. Some stands could probably stop it like Koichi's but most don't seem to fit the criteria to do so.
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>>151560195
Anyone with a lighter can suvive Shear Heart Attack
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>>151561450
>Use lighter
>SHA blows up whatever you light
>You run out of nearby flammable objects, or don't manage to get away from one in time.

That's assuming you managed to figure out that it tracks heat. Jotaro and Koichi were lucky that shop owner made coffee, others might not have that assistance.
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Fucking asspull marysue piece of shit villain.
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>>151564695
Dont talk about my husbando like that
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>>151547710
He's a perfect antagonist in theory but after the anime all of the plot holes became more obvious that he wasn't as good in practice as we previously thought.
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>>151555189
There is no way he actually said that.
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>>151561450
Sheer Heart Attack presumably moves rather fast and it's invisible if you aren't a stand user.

The only reason Jotaro and Koichi were able to figure out its weaknesses were because of timestop, sheer luck with finding out that it tracks heat, and Echoes leveling up in time to make a hard counter.

Without a way of immobilizing it, it really has no weakness.
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>>151565075
Except for maybe a hot day. Good thing Japan doesn't have hot days!
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>>151557425
>Okuyasu chillin with the VA gang
Fuck.. I want that
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>>151565168
If it was hot enough that the pavement was over body temperature then SHA would basically nuke Morioh's road infrastructure because it doesn't stop until it kills a human.

Although given the intelligence of background characters in Jojo, someone would probably drive straight down that road that's exploding towards them and end it early.
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I love Narancia!
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>>151547710
If there weren't other stand users in Morioh, then literally no one could stop him or even have any reason to. At least every other villain leaves evidence behind when they kill people. With Kira, no one even knows that anyone's been murdered.
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I really like Kira as a villain because he's just got so much style. The way he nonchalantly blows up that one dude from the train was great. So casually, effortlessly. I like part 4 in general the most so far (reading part 5 now), even though there was so much wasted potential in it.
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>>151553929
Shigechi was an incredibly popular character in Japan when P4 first debuted, kinda invalidates the 'no one cares about him' argument
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>>151552661
Sheer Heart Attack is strong as fuck when looking at the series as a whole.
It's just that 3 of the main cast of DiU could hard-counter it (Josuke, Okuyasu, Koichi), and 1 of them can soft-counter it (Jotaro)
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>>151553929
Wait, I'm losing my mind, who's Aya again?
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>>151567470
Facelift lady
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>>151567627
Oh yeah
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>>151565057
>that's the joke.PNG
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>>151565483
Piss off Fugo! Your stand sucks
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why didn't he just make a REALLY big bomb?
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>>151569871
It's a big bomb
(4U)
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>>151569871
Could Kira touch the dirt and make the whole Earth into a giant bomb?
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>>151570047
he could probably make clouds/fog into bombs
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>>151570047
Nah pretty sure that goes against stand range
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Kira might be one of the most fucked up villains because he honestly believed that he was the hero in this story.
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>that doujin where Kira lets himself get raped by various men before blowing them up with Killer Queen will never be animated

I wish dojins getting animated was a thing
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>>151570205
I beleived it too.
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>>151567762
>ifunny
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>>151547710
>no Sol with Hayato and Kira
>Hayata will never awaken his stand
>No father/son murder adventures
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why does everyone say bite za dust or something like that and not baitsa dasuto which it actually is?

it even has bait built in
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Was Kira a gaijin with a Japanese name?
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>>151570996
are they even in japan?
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>>151571511
Yes?
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>>151571548
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>>151548963
I wish he was a stand user. The kid was mentally stronger than like half of the stand users before him.
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>>151547710
I was
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>>151567762

Bite za dastu
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>>151567470
>>151553929
Speaking of Aya, is it pretty much agreed upon that the girl in Kira's highschool photos from the Atom Heart Father arc was her?
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>>151547710
>Was Kira really an effective villain in comparison to all the other side villains we saw in part 4?
He's the best written villain so far and by a lot. He's not some buff powerlevel supervillain, he's a regular guy who gets a ton of screentime dedicated to showing his personality and quirks. He's the only villain without an ambiguous world dominate goal too.
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did everyone see in the last few scene of the last episode some of those background characters appear in one frame? like the mother and the baby that josuke flipped over?

and another thing if you see a vehicle coming why would you scream and crouch instead of getting out of the fucking way? I mean its not truck-kun which is invincible but still.
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>>151570996
What makes you say that?
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>>151571747
>buff powerlevel supervillain

Weren't the only buff main villains DIO and Kars?

Every villain after them is pretty slim.(except for fat valentine,but he wasn't buff)
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Whats the point of BtD timelooping besides giving the person an extra chance to fix the future?
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>>151571855
Blonde hair, blue eyes, VERY European face. I may be mistaken but I don't think Jojo, or at least part 4 really does the whole "make white people and say they're Japanese"
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He was weak compared to other villains in terms of power level only. When it comes to being a good villain, I'd put him in the top three of all the main antagonists.
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>>151571944
Funny Valentine.
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>>151571747
>He's the only villain without an ambiguous world dominate goal too.
>dio just wanted to take over the joestar estate
>kars just wanted to be perfect
>pucci just wanted to see heaven or dio
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>>151571747
It's a little disconcerting how Araki could write such a good serial killer. Everything from his little idiosyncrasies, his way of speech, his outward charm while at the same time being a disgusting individual on the inside. He's just a good fucking villain, by any measure.
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>>151571652
Oh shit son didn't know someone made a new one
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>>151571964
Because its goal is to hide Kira's identity. If the others had learned through a witness or something that someone exploded after talking to Hayato, they could use that to infer he's linked to Kira. Looping and then blowing up the person out of nowhere because fate removes all visibile ties to Kira.
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>>151571964
Probably so that it's more difficult to make the connections between Kira, the one possessing BtD, and the victims investigating Kira.

Think of it this way, if it didn't reset time, observers would notice that these explosions are centered around Hayato and might be able to work around it. Once time is reset, the explosions are technically random, they just happen with no provocation regardless if Hayato is there or not.

I mean, there are probably better methods that are less bonkers than time looping, but it's cool so whatever
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i wonder if araki will make a jojo a villain? and villain that will win im tired of half-cup full wins that villains get, or wins because the villain is not actually a villain.
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>>151572120
>dio just wanted to take over the joestar estate
And became a vampire hellbent on terrorizing the world. And in part 3 its pretty clear he intends to fuck shit up once he's done destroying the Joestar family.
>kars just wanted to be perfect
So he could terrorize the world.
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He's a meme, like everything in Jojo. The more memes attributed to a character the better the character is. That's about how it goes in this series. Realistically Kira was weak as fuck and outnumbered from the beginning and basically stood no chance against any singular character.
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>>151571998
jojo doesn't follow the "blonde hair blues eyes means white person" anime trope, plus its the wrong shade of blonde (not the color of the flesh of a banana).
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>>151572431
>And became a vampire hellbent on terrorizing the world
yeah because more powers means higher goal to set but without the mask he just wouldve been greedy.
>So he could terrorize the world.
when was that stated? that was just their assumption out of fear.
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>>151571944
Valentine was fucking ripped. I remember Diavolo having some muscle too.
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>>151572496
>He's a meme, like everything in Jojo.

Do you know how retarded you sound? Do you go around calling everything memes?
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>>151572496
>basically stood no chance against any singular character.
>killed shigechi
>killed koichi before being super super asspulled to life
>killed okuyasu before super asspulled to life
>killed rohan

he only to really worry about jotaro and josuke
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>>151572827
If we take away Josuke's close as fuck call heals Part 4 would end with
>Dead Koichi
>Dead Okuyasu (Though I give it a pass for his spiritual intervention)
>Possibly dead Jotaro
Imagine being just a highschooler and having to deal with the weight of all your close friends and family being brutally murdered.
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>>151573017
and the girlfriend of your dead friend hating your guts and having to explain what happened to his mother and sister
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>>151572592
>yeah because more powers means higher goal to set but without the mask he just wouldve been greedy.

Dio would never be satisfied, the narrator even makes it pretty fucking clear that nah, Dio's just pure evil.
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>>151547710
Yes.
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>>151548292
>tfw no European holiday arc where they go to the Louvre
>Kira is overwhelmed by his fetish and actually steals the hands off of the original Mona Lisa painting
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>>151572496
>>151572827
Don't forget he killed the entire main cast with BtD.

Kira just has to touch you with KQ in order to win, that is insanely strong.

He wasn't lying when he told Josuke he could have killed them all any time he wanted, they had no clue what he looked like so all he had to do was "accidently" bump into them while walking down a sidewalk and then fucking blow their ass up.

Why didn't he do that? Because he just wants to be left the fuck alone, he hates conflict and fighting.
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>>151548181
The only weakness was Hayato being a non-stand user who could figure out stands. He should have popped that shit on Shinobu instead.
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>>151549249
Okuyasu should have stayed dead. I love how they brought him back though, so I'm torn.
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>>151553436
I dunno. What would you think if you saw a guy touch a sandwich with a severed hand then lick the sauce? Not buy that fucking sandwich, that's for sure.
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>>151547710
He needed more screen time. And to get away. That wouldve made him 10/10
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>>151561450
Confirmed for not knowing how lighters work.
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>>151570205
A lot of villains honestly they believed they were the hero. Even in Jojo alone there were Pucci and Valentine who had MUCH stronger beliefs than Kira.
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>>151570174
Could he turn Purple Haze's virus into a bomb?
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Sorry to offtopic in this thread but JoJo fans are cool and mybe someone can answer my question

Just got out of jail and i was wondering what happened to Taiga !!dMbDe6oa7US and SHiN?

I can see they are not around anymore, and when i left it was a huge shitstorm i just wanna know how it ended.

Thanks.
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>>151570205
In a sense he was. People love Kira because more so than any other villain he feels like the protagonist of his own side story. Think of the first chapter that he's the focus of. There's no stand encounters until the very end, it's just him trying to get back his sandwich bag from a fat kid.
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>>151571652
ooh neat
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>>151571713
I can't remember if it was like that in the manga but it sure does look like it, eh?
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>>151574151
Is the virus even tangible aside from the physical capsule? It's not like Kira can turn regular air into a bomb, he needed Stray Cat's air bubble.
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Holy fuck, is this a Jojo reference?
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>>151571964
Erase any evidence of Kira's identity. If people just start randomly exploding when they ask about Kira or learn his name, someone's going to put 2 and 2 together.
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>>151572074
>He was weak compared to other villains in terms of power level only
>what is Bites the Dust

>>151572174
He based him on real Japanese serial killers IIRC
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>>151574151
>>151574319
He can turn the capsule into a bomb, the capsule wouldnt be able to break until he detonated it though, much like the air bubble didnt pop when it was split in half.
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>>151571964
It erases evidence of his identity as well as giving him an escape route in any situation where he gets cornered.

>>151572496
Why do you breathe my oxygen?
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>>151574403
>>151572074
>Weak in terms of power

Even without BtD he is still insanely strong.

His ability is a 1 touch kill. Not a punch, or a chop, but a touch.

He can even touch an object and if you touch it after him you are dead.

How is that not powerful?
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>>151573017
>Possibly dead Jotaro
Did you see that nigga? He'd lost virtually all of his blood and was filled with a fuckton of holes. I'm surprised he could even fight in that state. Kira was surprised, too.
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>>151570602
Because of ASB which says it like that.
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>>151574477
KQ fucking sucks at close combat and almost every punchghost can easily disable it before it can touch shi
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>>151574319
I dunno, I figured it was like a debris cloud. He might be able to turn the entire cloud into a bomb. Or like you said use Stray Cat's air bubbles to trap the virus then turn it into a bomb.
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>>151574477
He's strong, but compared to stopping time and vampiric abilities, erasing time, accelerating time and shifting universes he doesn't measure up without Bites the Dust. That's what makes him a truly terrifying threat.
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>>151574589
The stand isn't a close combat stand.

It's built around stealth honestly.
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>>151574589
>and almost every punchghost can easily disable it before it
Only those with strength and speed on par with SP and CD. But it's still not really a stand for up-close brawls.
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>JUST REALIZED SOFT AND WET IS A FUCKING FACE SPLIT IN HALF LIKE JOSUKE
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>>151547710
He was great because he's so much different than any other main villain.

And having a physically weaker Stand that has its abilities countered by practically the entire main cast was a nice idea.
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>>151574780
>that has its abilities countered by practically the entire main cast was a nice idea
Eh, not really. It was nice seeing how Kira could keep escaping from increasingly hopeless situations until his luck finally ran out.
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What would have happened if Kira didn't die?
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>>151574642
What if Kira used Bites the Dust on a willing accomplice? Would that work?
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>>151574923
He'd go back in time and never get caught by Josuke. Nurse-chan would become the new bomb carrier. From there it's anyone's guess. Kira might try and retrieve Killer Queen and actually kill his enemies or he might just go on living a quiet life.
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Why the fuck Morioh looks like an american suburb
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>>151575003
>walks up to everyone
>Yoshikage Kira
>BOOM
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He has the best themes out of every villain.
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>>151574780
>>151574910
Since it was the first part to really utilize the potential of stands, it all comes together around Kira.

Kira is in theory the ultimate criminal and the worst Jojo antagonist you can imagine. His powers would make him unstoppable as an offensive force if it weren't for Jotaro. His tendency to avoid fighting makes him even scarier because he's a master of being exceptionally average and thus hard to track down.

But on the other hand, we have a wide variety of allies seeking to defeat him. Coincidentally, two of these allies are particularly useful in defeating Kira. Crazy Diamond and Killer Queen are polar opposites in abilities. Koichi develops his stand as he learns about Kira, and we see that weaker stands can adapt and evolve to fit a given situation.

Even up until the bitter end with the allies perfectly countering Kira's abilities he still has the upper hand until he's face to face with Jotaro and gets instagibbed.

Sure you could chalk a lot of the twists up to asspulls, and sure there's a lot of plotholes looking back. But the whole concept of the part and Kira as the villain is a nearly-perfect premise for a mystery plot. With some touching-up, Part 4 would probably be my favorite part.
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>>151575742
Isn't it what araki is trying to do with part 8?
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>>151565483

Who is this girl? she looks like shit desu
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>>151575919
>she
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>>151575912
Eh, I don't think so. No strong antagonistic figure yet.
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So how well would part 8 Kira fare against part 4 Kira?
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>>151575919
>girl
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>>151575245
But what about Hayato? He can now tell people about Kira.
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>>151575912
Part 8 is more of a complete mystery while with Part 4 it's a mystery-thriller since the reader knows what's going on behind the scenes.
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>>151574324
>1999
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>>151548292
Kira's daughter who inherited his personality would be the cutest and best waifu.
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>>151576886
We don't know how Killer Queen II's tertiary bomb works yet, and Kira II doesn't have Stray Cat. He's equally analytical and more sane, but I think he'd also be more willing to go on the offense than Kira I.

If he had Josefumi, Kira II could probably fuck up Kira I. If not, it would heavily rely on whatever his tertiary bomb does. If neither of them have their tertiary bomb or Stray Cat, I'd put my money on Kira II since he's more likely to take risks.

Kira I with BtD > Kira II w/o 3rd bomb
Kira I with Stray Cat vs Kira II is iffy
Kira I < Kira II w/ Josefumi
Kira I < Kira II both with only 1st and 2nd bombs
Awakened Kira I vs Awakened Kira II is a total tossup until we figure out how Kira II's 3rd bomb works
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>>151570560
The ifunny watermark makes the meme, my dude
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>Kira
>Killer

HOLY FUCKING SHIT GUYS!111
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I picked it up recently. So... In a few chapters there's a dude who went from random asshole to superhuman x vampire. Then became able to control people's mind only to reveal he's also able to transform 400 years old corpses into zombies (with their original body). Also one of the zombie has killed his executioner by growing his hair extremely fast as he was dying. All this while taking themselves really seriously and making pose. I've really enjoyed it at the beginning but as soon as Dio wear the mask it's shit.

Should i keep reading or it's always an asspull fest like that.
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>>151553929
Shigechi is actually one of Araki's favorite characters
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>>151575742
It's disappointing because it ends up deceiving people into seeing Kira as weak even though he'd tear apart most other parts with the exception of some part 5 stands and Weather Report

Crazy Diamond nerfs him so hard it's not even funny. Then throw in Act 3 and The Hand it's a miracle he got as far as he did.
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>>151579197
Dio later beheads jonathan ala dead space to win a dick-measuring contest
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>>151579197
If you keep reading you'll find the President of the US raping a 14 year old only for her to speak to Jesus and get pregnant with the mummified head of Christ Himself, because the President wants to use Jesus to make America great again.
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>>151576886
I'd say part 4 since if it got to a slug match between them Primary Bomb would come out on top. Also I don't know if part 8's SHAs are invincible like Kiras. I'd assume they aren't considering how many there are.

Also I'm pretty sure part 8's bubble bombs are visible since they all have star patterns on them. They aren't made of literal air like part 4's with Stray Cat.

Bites the Dust doesn't apply here since it's an insta-win button that lets Kira go back in time and remain aware about the future if he's the one who triggers it.
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>>151579445
>we will never see a shitton of mini-SHA's zergrushing a big SHA
Why live
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>>151579313
Part 4 is like a game of chess in terms of how things play out. Kira is overpowered as fuck, but all of the pieces move delicately around him and keep putting him in check. He keeps sliding out of check until the allies finally get him into a position almost by sheer luck that puts him into checkmate.
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>>151579602
ASB 2 when?
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>>151559933
i got to tell you that dio is great just because hes an absolute dickhead at all times

i think kira is a little better since pt 1 and 2 have so many asspulls compared to pt4
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>>151559933
DIO was evil because he was a man disillusioned with humanity because of the death of his mother and constant ironic plot twists in his early life. He then spent 100 years reflecting on how much he hated humanity in a coffin at the bottom of the ocean.

Saying he's evil for no reason is just irrational.
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>>151580233
He was born evil senpai. Speedwagon said it himself.
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>>151580329
Anything Speedwagon says is basically word of god, so you got me there.
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>>151572294
>new one

You got the old one?
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Friendly reminder that time stop in JoJo makes no fucking sense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J5ldNYqwhw
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>>151572592
the pillar men literally ruled unchecked until the hamon dudes banished em

why wouldn't they rule the world
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>>151580954
I always assumed this was shit they were just thinking in an instant..but then why did they animate him talking? Why would he even talk when times frozen anyway?
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>>151547710
>>151548292

I understand the necessity of killing Kira, but at least I wish he could have knocked her up then the kids appeared in Part 6 with Shizuka.
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>>151581648
Nah, it wasn't a thought bubble he literally said it out loud which makes the pacing weird in the anime.
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>>151580954
time stop runs on tabletop rules. talking is a free action.
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>>151572392
But everyone was already investigating Hayato, and they knew explosions were Kira's MO. If people start blowing up randomly on the day they meant to question Hayato, at least one of them is going to connect the dots.
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Would Part 4 have been better if Okuyasu died in Keicho's place, and Keicho became he BroJo instead?

I think yes
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>>151585205
or if Kira killed Yukako and took her hand.
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>>151575912
Considering both their stands are the same yet different. Its up to who wants it more
Kira
>Kira has contact touch bombs that decimate you once its activated
>SHA is a single, nearly invincible bomb that seeks heat and makes sure its target is dead
>Stray cat bubble bombs are meant to be for long distance and give a bit more room for explosions yet without a secondary party, cannot be aimed
SeaKira
>Bubble bombs that explode with or without contact
>Multiple SHAs that seem invincible, cause alot of damage, and can vary in size
Its any ones game tbqh
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>>151585205
Okuyasu was a decent comic relief character. Besides, they explain that it was best for Keicho to die. He would have been terrible friends with Josuke and Koichi anyway.
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>>151585422
The fact Kira's a serial killer and was only shown to kill bitchy and shitty women is kinda funny. It's almost as through Araki didn't want to go through with making him look completely reprehensible by killing Koichi's mom or sister, Yukako or Josuke's mom. It leads you to sympathize with him a little more.

Nigga's on thot patrol 24/7
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>>151585447

I understand the changes to the human faces as his style developed, but why did he replace Killer Quen's huge unfeeling cat eyes?
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>>151585575
>Who is Reimi
And he specifically said that it wasn't anger or resentment towards women that made him kill them. That Minako chick was simply because she had nice hands and his blood was up, the idea that Kira is some kind of supreme gentleman who's out to cleanse the world of evil whores is a dumb headcanon made up by dumb fans who are trying to make him relatable.
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>>151584433

Well yeah, but the situation only got that far because Kira didn't have BtD before. In just two resets they were all dead because they learnt about Kira at the same time. Had Rohan been the only one exploding, the others might have realized it was linked to Hayato, but only because they were all there with the plan of meeting Hayato, in other circumstances they wouldn't even be sure if he was dead or not. And in fact, because they were going to meet Hayato, they were pretty much fucked up.
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>>151585671
Probably to make them a slight more realistic.
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>>151585447
>Its up to who wants it more
Part 4 Kira takes it then. His Autism in Unbreakable

>seem invincible
What about the microscopic ones he uses? I can't remember if any of them survive the explosions. They might just be regular bombs.

And the main difference between Stray Cat bombs and bubble bombs is the former is invisible. Also Primary Bomb is handy for turning other objects into bombs which can either be detonated manually or touched by someone else in which case the bomb goes inside them.
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>>151585671

part 8 kira has a different character, so it makes sense
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>>151585687
>Who is Reimi
Some bitch who died 15 years ago whose death we never see and was Kira's very first victim.

And you missed my point entirely. He kills shitty women, which makes it seem like those are the women he goes after, and make you care less about their deaths because they're bitches anyway.
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>>151585671
Villain stand vs. non-villain stand. Kira's KQ is supposed to look evil because he's evil.
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>>151585687

As someone who used the term 'thot', you should've already known that anons opinions are invalid.
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>>151585780
>And you missed my point entirely. He kills shitty women, which makes it seem like those are the women he goes after, and make you care less about their deaths because they're bitches anyway.
This.
It would not surprise me if Reimi abused Rohan. Rohanchan my ass.
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>>151585743
Why would you read them out of order?
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>>151585841

Worst Jojo.
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I have a question about Bites the Dust. In both cases where it kills someone they see the tiny Killer Queen first before it goes inside their eyes. So is seeing the stand enough to trigger it? Would a stand user attacking Hayato and causing BtD to protect him trigger the bomb?
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>>151585806

Diego's The World got the same treatment and he was a villain just like Dio.
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>>151585829
>It would not surprise me if Reimi abused Rohan. Rohanchan my ass.
This headcanon makes as much sense as headcanoning Kira as a romance-repulsed genderqueer AFAB demisexual.
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>>151585671
Part 8 KQ became smug & sassy like his user
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>>151585863
Yeah that's how it happened in one of the rewinds. Hayato tried to kill himself so KQ protected him and the others all saw KQ, activating BtD. So if another Stand user were to attack Hayato and see Killer Queen, BtD would trigger.
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>>151585829
>It would not surprise me if Reimi abused Rohan
Everyone knows she fucked her dog. What kind of girl gets some boy's tongue rammed down her throat at that young an age? Probably diddled Rohan too.

Kira did the town of Morioh a service that day.
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>>151585859
Best looking
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>>151585917
Jesus fuck that's OP. Makes sense too since that would "technically" be revealing his identity through his stand.
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Protip: you can't
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One reason SSB is so highly regarded was the final fight was absolutely epic. Johnny was on the brink of death and was able to pull off a miracle. Compare that to Jonathan, Joseph, Jotaro and Josuke who were relatively okay. So damn refreshing seeing a Jojo constantly getting body torn to shreds and scrapping to his goal.
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>>151585780
Kira's only shown killing two rude women, and because Reimi is the only actual character out of the women he killed (aside from Aya, but that wasn't for her hands) I'm pretty sure she's more representative of his average victim anyway. People might not care too much about the deaths of those two chicks, but I'm pretty sure they were meant to care about what Kira was doing in general. And with panels like the hand-sucking one and so on it's clear Araki was going out of his way to make him seem utterly grotesque at points.

Note that the chick who he planned on making the BTD carrier was perfectly helpful and kind, and there's no way he would have let her live after he was done with her.
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>>151585929
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>>151585931
Giorno's generic as fuck looking
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>>151585931
Didn't this guy draw a badass Koichi too? Which is the only time you'll hear those two words without the word "isn't" between them.
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>>151585974
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>>151585929
>Kira is alt Jotaro
>Josefumi is alt Kakyoin
>they don't lay an egg but they DO become one person
>Jo2uke is alt Jouta
CLAMP probably fucking love JoJolion.
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>>151586015
>any jojo desings
>generic
even the most normal looking people like the Cheap Trick guy stand out
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>>151586020

Koichi was badass throughout DIU. Gaining the respect of Jotaro, Rohan and even Kira.

The guy got a hot piece of ass in a girlfriend and you say he isn't a badass? Fuck off. Koichi (next to Josuke) is one of the most base characters in all of Jojo.
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>>151585885
>>151585715
>>151585447
Is Akira losing his creativity? Why he would do the same villain twice. Honestly this alternative universes are a cool idea but he recycles too much old stuff doing it
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Does Araki regret making Star Platinum so OP?
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>>151585975
>Josuke
>relatively okay
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>>151585979
He was also backed into a corner when he tried using BtD. Most of Kira's victims happen that way - bystanders who got caught up in the stand bullshit like the shoe store guy.

He's a murderer but then again so is everyone else in JoJo. The fact Araki didn't make him kill girls we actually cared about shows his hesitance.
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>>151586020
Badass Koichis are rare but nice
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>>151586060
You think Araki did it on purpose?
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>>151547710
If DIO, Kira, Diavolo, Pucci and Valentine got into a fight, Kira would lose first.
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>>151586050
Friendly reminder that Mrs. Brando was a fucking retard who died for no good reason and would ultimately impart a lesson that would get her son killed in the future for no good reason.
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>>151586098
Probably not
stand stats don't mean anything at the end of the day
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>>151586072
Everything is relative but Giorno doesn't really stand out to me, his outfit is too similar to Buccellati's but not as striking and his face + hair aren't anything amazing either.
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>>151547710
red hot chili pepper is objectively more effective than killer queen in battle
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>>151586084
>one of the worst stands in the entire series
>pegged nightly by a yandere
>manlet

>badass
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>>151586090
Part 8 Kira isn't a villain and the names are basically just references. The only similarity Part 8 Kira has to Part 4 Kira is that they both like hands, although Part 8 Kira only likes his own hands. Most of the names shared between the universes are just references and characters have only passing similarities to reference old characters, but functionally they're completely different characters. Killer Queen was recycled because Araki really likes drawing it.
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>>151586149
Time stop is still one of the most powerful abilities. Couple that with Star Platinum's stats, and you've got an overly powerful stand;
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>>151586115
Probably. He's referenced CLAMP in Wonderland in the manga subtly before. It's so well known it's practically canon and he can make jokes about it.
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>>151586015
I have yet to see another character design with donut hair and ladybug brooches
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>>151586165
Until it blows up the power lines. RHCP is made of electricity, which carries a lot of heat, meaning that SHA would be all over that shit like a bitch in heat.

It's still one of the strongest stands in DiU though.
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>>151586168

>one of the worst stands in the entire series

Looks like you don't watch much Jojo because I can name 10 that far worse

>pegged nightly by a yandere

The yandere would turn to a pussy cat now that she has her prize. No pegging involved considering Koichi probably gives her the business. I think what sold me was the fact he stood up to Kira with one final fuck you

>manlet

And? Only one of this friends who has a girl.

>badass

Damn right he is.
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>>151586196
The only abilities more powerful are other time related abilities really. Stuff like King Crimson shits on time stop and Made in Heaven if it gets fast enough makes it useless. Outside of those, time stop and SP's strength and speed make it a brick shithouse.
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I have a question

If Kira wouldn't go into the house to fight Josuke, why didn't he just send Sheer Heart Attack in there to blow them up repeatedly? I asked my friend this while watching and he replied "because he has a new gimmick now."
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>>151586233
Tamami pls
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>>151586139
I can guarantee you that burning your hands on stew wouldn't cause fatal injuries that would kill you months afterwards unless your immune-system was fucked to the point that anything could have and would have killed you within a month.

Diego blaming her death on that specific incident was full of holes and something he did as a coping-mechanism. While the people running the farm were likely to blame for her poor health in general she most likely died mostly of malnutrition and disease that had a far deeper and more long-term cause than the stew.
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>>151586244
GER also shits on time stop, but mentioning it is almost cheating.
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>>151586255
Josuke can heal SHA and send it back to Kira so it's useless. He could also divert it with the matches and cigarettes he found.
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>>151586255
Because Josuke can just repair it back to him like he did in the Sheer Heart Attack fight itself. It'd be a minor annoyance but not really worth bothering with.
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>>151586168
>Echoes
>bad
pick one
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can Snails have vags
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>>151586261
I dunno, it's the late 1800s and infected burn wounds are a bitch, especially if they're on your hands and you work on a farm.
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>>151586320
Act 2 is surprisingly the best of the bunch and Koichi was retarded and got the tail blown up fighting SHA.
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>>151586303
He repaired his hand after Kira cut it off, but he didn't make the stand return. I don't remember it happening that way.
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>>151586261
The world was a very different place 120 years ago. Basic sanitation then in the most advanced countries was still almost third world level today and medicine for pretty much anything other than simple ailments was unheard of to the masses. The stew incident isn't really that full of holes, though you're right on him fixating on that particular incident when the land owners were shits on top of the already not great conditions they were living with.
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>>151586361
He repaired the stand, which went back to the hand, which repaired the hand, which sent it back to Kira.
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>>151586392
oh now I remember, thanks!
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>>151586361
He repaired his hand but it made the Stand go back into his hand as well. Go reread or rewatch the scene. He heals the hand which forces SHA back into it as it then flies off to Kira.
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Friendly reminder that Stray Cat would defeat the entire DiU cast, Jotaro included.
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>>151586433
no
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>>151586137
What if Valentine pulls out some of his duplicates and Kira implants BtD into one of them?
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>>151586359

Yet here you are saying it sucks. Fucking idiot. Shall I remind you of shitty stands like Notorious BIG, Wheel of Fortune, Tenor Sax, Khnum, Highway To Hell and The Lock for example. Fuck out of here with your bullshit. Echos is a middle of the pack if not upper rankings.
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>>151586329
>>151586389
While the lack of knowledge about sanitation and so on was definitely not up to scratch, this actually says that both of us were wrong and she died of tetanus and not a normal infection at all.

I'm pretty sure that the stew couldn't have anything to do with that, right? Tetanus is pretty fast, and is generally caused by something sharp going in deep and not getting any air in it. Could that be caused by a burn at all?

Jesus though, it's a horrible way to die, wouldn't she have done the back-contorting thing and had her jaw lock up and so on? Poor Diego.
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>>151580569
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>>151586520
>tfw Echoes is so bad you have to list stands that actively hurt their users to find stands worse
wewlad
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>>151586433
>Jotaro stops time
>uses Star Finger
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>>151586552

Troll. Convo is over.
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>>151586566
>implying he remembers how to do that
Friendly reminder he could have stopped time immediately and Stah Phinga'd Kira's head off before he could even think of pressing the switch. He could have also used it to stab Ratt to death. He could probably use it like a baseball bat and send SHA to the other side of town.
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>>151586552
Nigga Koichi could solo Diavolo shut your bitch ass.
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>>151586566
That doesn't exist.
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>>151586611
Echoes is worse than most stands in its own part.
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>>151586616
>Koichifags actually exist
wewlad
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I was going to ask where was the PV because tomorrow is friday but then I remember that the anime has ended
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>>151586612
Yeah, and Joseph could have used Hermit Purple to find Kira but he didn't for the sake plot. Same thing. If Jotaro had used the full extent of his powers and killed Kira around the mid-part, then DiU wouldn't be a story. But we don't have to take into account things Araki overlooks for the sake of plot when we're discussing powerlevels.
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>>151553821
I think that played into character well: many successful serial killers have one big weakness, due to their confidence, and that could easily be notability. He thought he was invincible, and when around his prey he seemed like he was in a high state, completely different. His guard is lowered around quivering defenseless women.
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>>151586698
>Joseph could have used Hermit Purple to find Kira but he didn't for the sake plot
Reminder that Joseph attempting to use Hermit Purple to photograph Josuke resulted in nothing but pictures of Angelo, a completely different man.
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>>151586612
He could have killed Pucci too.
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>>151586741
Tusk act 5: Awakened Ultimate Lifeform Spin Master Hamon Master Tusk Act ∞ Requiem Requiem Requiem Distortion in Heaven Requiem Distortion: The World Requiem Distortion: Love Train Requiem Requiem Requiem Distortion: Requiem Requiem Distortion Act ∞ Requiem w/ Awakened Ultimate Lifeform Spin Master Hamon Monster Anubis Act ∞ Requiem Requiem Distortion in Heaven Requiem Distortion: The World Requiem Distortion: Love Train Requiem Requiem Distortion Act ∞ Requiem and w/ sub-stand, Awakened Ultimate Lifeform Spin Master Hamon Monster Epitaph Act ∞ Requiem Requiem Distortion in Heaven Requiem Distortion: The World Requiem Distortion: Love Train Requiem Requiem Distortion Act ∞ Requiem w/ Awakened Ultimate Lifeform Spin Master Hamon Monster All Stand Discs Act ∞ Requiem Requiem Distortion in Heaven Requiem Distortion: The World Requiem Distortion: Love Train Requiem Requiem Distortion Act ∞ Requiem and w/ sub-stand, Awakened Ultimate Lifeform Spin Master Hamon Monster Sheer Heart Attack Act ∞ Requiem Requiem Distortion in Heaven Requiem Distortion: The World Requiem Distortion: Love Train Requiem Requiem Distortion Act ∞ Requiem w/ Awakened Ultimate Lifeform Spin Master Hamon Monster All Stand Discs Act ∞ Requiem Requiem Distortion in Heaven Requiem Distortion: The World Requiem Distortion: Love Train Requiem Requiem Distortion Act ∞ Requiem w/ The Red Stone of Aja and the Seven Holy Corpse Parts as a Vampire wielding the Sword of Luck and Pluck, Clackers, Soap in his gloves to produce bubbles, and infinite Stand Arrows, Joestar Blood, Alternate Joestar Blood, a Horse, Steel Balls, 4 Testicles, and the Green Baby that was uttered the 14 words of Heaven.
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>>151586741
Batman with prep time or Gappy in CQC when Yasuho has been put in danger.
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>>151586736
And?
there's nothing stopping him from trying again or at least having someone to ask him
>"I did it once but it didn't worked, might as well never use it again"
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>>151586741
Yes, this lil fucker. Three Freeze his ass and bam, he ded.
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>>151586539
If the bitch is dumb enough to pour boiling hot stew into her hands she's probably dumb enough to poke herself on a rusty piece of metal and not clean the wound.
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>>151586779
>no Over Heaven
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>>151547806
I feel bad for her. She was so in love and now she'll be waiting for no one.
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>>151586779
>no Love Love Train Deluxe
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>>151586830
Blame Hayato. Now she'll be miserable and unable to pay rent. Without any job experience she'll probably be forced to sell her body for cash.
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>>151547710
What was that thing called where we made a lot of pictures like this?
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>>151586741
Any FTL stand(Star Platinum, The World, Crazy Diamond, Silver Chariot...) and any stand with a hax ability(GER, King Crimson, D4C).
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>>151586885
https://dreamscopeapp.com/editor
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>>151586906
Thanks m8!
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NIGHTWALK OST RIP WHEN?
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>>151548545
I don't know, I found Vanilla Ice to be pretty intimidating
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I'll just leave this here....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0verLM5ejNE
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>>151573846
Not really, KQ is a weak punchghost, remember the scene where KQ and CD fight? KQ keeps going for the touch but never gets it.
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>>151586872
>more depressed than ever
>unable to pay rent and will be evicted since nobody knows the combination to the safe where they keep money
>cat will be put down because they're unable to care for it anymore
>Hayato will be blamed for her husband's disappearance because when she tries to look for him and asks his boss he'll tell her his last phone call was about disciplining his son
>Hayato can never speak a word not that she'd believe him anyway
>Hayato will most likely be taken away by child protective services and never see his mother again as she spirals ever more downwards into depression and misery
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>>151586977
WHAT THE FUCK IT'S DOLPHIN PORN
DON'T CLICK ON THAT
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>>151586872
Wow you're right. Fuck, his mom really got the most depressing end in all of Part 4. What the fuck Araki?
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>>151586998
>Killer Queen can't outpunch Crazy Diamond which is on par with Star Platinum
>this means it's weak
It has the same stats as Stone Free. It's by no means weak.
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>>151587012
>>151587035

"Golden heart" my ass Joseph. Kira was literally the glue that held Morioh together.
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>>151586906
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I just noticed; when they're stealing the plane, Moody Blues is dressed as a pilot.
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Jotaro > Polnareff > Avdol > Iggy > Kakyoin > Joseph
Jotaro > Josuke > Koichi > Okuyasu > Rohan
Giorno > Fugo > Buccelati > Narancia > Mista > Abbacchio

Prove me wrong.
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>>151587077
>muh powerlevels
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>>151587077
Stop trolling me
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>>151587061
this is fun
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>>151587055
now there's nobody to kill all the gold digging whores and underpants thieves that plague Morioh.
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>>151587072
I don't know what's cuter, Moody Blues or Abbacchio
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>>151587077
>A literal dog
>stronger than Kakyoin
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Why did Jospeh literally do nothing but hold a baby in Part 4?
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>>151587154
Yes?
Kakyoin would have lost to Pet Shop.
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>>151587132
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>>151587169
Araki is a borderline hack
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>>151587154
>>151587185
With the exception of Iggy the only one that could've won against Pet Shop was Avdol
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>>151587205
You'd better take that back.
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>>151587055
>>151587146
>sloots will overrun the town and make it a den of prostitution and debauchery
>the revenue brought in by horror tourism will dry up
>without their no 1 customer St. Gentlemen's will go bankrupt and close down
>Koichi will continue to damage the town's economy through his numerous thefts of girl's underpants
>as a result the town's dignity will suffer
>the Kira family household which existed since the days of the samurai will get sold off or torn down
what a horrible duwang
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>>151587169
Because he's old and the story is about his son.
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>>151587232
Yeah because making shit up as you go along and retconning established lore later on are the marking traits of quality writing.
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>>151587169
>>151587205
He realised Joseph could have used or at least try to use HP to find Kira so he shaft him as much as possible so we wouldn't realise that
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>>151587230
Star Platinum and Silver Chariot are both much, much faster than Horus. Deflecting his shards would have been easy for them.
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>>151574324
There he is. There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?! Oh my God.

I can almost see your pathetic overweight frame glowing in the dark, lit by your computer screen which is the only source of light in your room, giggling like a little girl as you once again type your little reddit thread up and fill in the captcha. Or maybe you don't even fill in the captcha. Maybe you're such a disgusting NEET that you actually paid for a 4chan pass, so you just choose the picture. Oh, and we all know the picture. The "epic" jojo reference, isn't it? I imagine you little shit laughing so hard as you click it that you drop your Doritos on the floor, but it's ok, your mother will clean it up in the morning. Oh, that's right. Did I fail to mention? You live with your mother. You are a fat fucking fuckup, she's probably so sick of you
already. So sick of having to do everything for you all goddamn day, every day, for a grown man who spends all his time on 4chan
posting about a tired reddit joke. Just imagine this. She had you, and then she thought you were gonna be a scientist or an
astronaut or something grand, and then you became a NEET. A pathetic redditfag NEET. She probably cries herself to sleep everyday
thinking about how bad it is and how she wishes she could just disappear. She can't even try to talk with you because all you say is "IS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE?" You've become a parody of your own self. And that's all you are. A sad little man laughing in the dark by himself as he prepares to indulge in the same old dance that he's done a million times now. And that's all you'll ever be.

Forever...
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>>151587269
There's nothing wrong with that. Araki cares more about creativity than he cares about consistency.
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>>151587278
Kinda hard when the shards are bigger than a truck and he can fire multiple of them very fast
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>>151587205
He is, but I love him nonetheless.
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>>151587302
Its been a while since I saw this one
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>>151586906
This one came out pretty slick.
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>>151587318
Silver Chariot and Star Platinum are both faster than light, and SP survived getting crushed by a road roller.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE
ANAZAWAN BAITSU ZA DASUTO
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>>151587311
I suppose...

part of me wishes for an alternate universe where Jojo was always about Jonathan and Dio fighting for father's love and attention
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>>151587404
>Jonathan and Dio fighting for father's love and attention
But JoJo was never about that.
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>>151587375
SP can survive a road roller but I dont think it can take 5 ice shards or more of the same size and weigh at once
same goes for Chariot, he can probably cut one but not all of them being fire at him at the same time
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>>151587466
It can deflect them since it's strong enough to protect itself from a road roller and fast enough to reach all five of them.
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What r u talking about! Kira and Killa Queen are the best!!! Even my son loves Kira! And yeah his favorite stand is Killer Queen!
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>>151587169
Because Joseph already got his time to shine as a major protagonist (and the main source of comic relief) in two parts.

I love the meme master as much as anyone else but 3 parts would have been too much
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>>151587540
holy fuck am i disgusted
fucking spics
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A huge part of why I loved Kira as a villain was because of how relatively underpowered he was for a Jojo bad dude. Let's compare:

>Dio: Superhuman vamp biology
>Kars: Superhuman Aztec fitness god biology, and eventually, immortality
>DIO: Vamp powers + OP time bullshit
>Diavolo: Haven't read, assuming it's also OP time bullshit
>Pucci: Power to steal stands and (eventually) gravity control + OP time bullshit
>Valentine: Sort-of immortality via D4C, Love Train makes him allllmost unbeatable

>Kira: Salaryman who can blow shit up. Time powers operate under very strict conditions

He managed to get farther than he should've by way of luck, but since it was basically him vs a whole group of stand users, he would've been fucked eventually
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>>151587554
Then why did Jotaro steal part 4? I mean I get that Josuke is shit compared to him, but still.
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>>151587593
>skipping parts
Kill yourself.
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>>151587605
Why did Joseph steal part 3? I mean I get that Jotaro is shit compared to him, but still.
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>>151587593
Yeah, Kira's not to be taken lightly but he wasn't ever suited for the world-domination attempts that the rest of them were dabbling in.

The final battle isn't the brave heroes prevailing over the ultimate evil against all the odds, it's a cornered man reaching the end of the line.
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Fuck part 5 where is my Baoh ova?
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>>151587638
Calm down, he's probably just heard about how bad the part 5 scans are and wants to read it when the new ones are completed so he doesn't have a shitty and dry version of what happened in mind.
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I just realised why Kira had to tell Hayato his name on the first loop and hence consequence loops.

Since Hayato didn't know his dad was Kira at the time, Kira wouldn't be able to activate his BtD since it only activates when Hayato is questioned about Kira's identity (which didn't know yet)
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>>151587646
But he didn't. Jotaro was the one to kill DIO, and he got a lot more occasions to shine than Joseph. You can't compare that to DiU, where Jotaro was the one to lead Kira to his death.
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>>151586906
Lovin it
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>>151587693
yeah, that's where the "Jotaro's Bizarre Adventure Part IV" meme comes from
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>>151587593
double nigger
>>151587685
Skipping parts is a sin, I read through the whole thing with shit scans and still liked it, there is no excuse.
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>>151587694
Holy fuck, that looks great. I love the contrast of Diego being pitch black while the World's white.
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>>151587646
Why did Gyro steal part 7? I mean I get that Johnny is shit compared to him, but still.
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BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN
I thought part IV would never get a good a opening, but Great Days proved me wrong. Too bad it's still not on par with Sono Chi no Sadame, BLOODY STREAM, Stand Proud and Sono Chi no Kioku.
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>>151587605
If anyone stole part 4 it was Kira.

Jotaro is essentially on assignment to get to the bottom of all the craziness happening in Morioh. Josuke and Co. are essentially swept up in it because they have Stands, and we see a majority of the story from their PoV, but it is still very much Jotaro's investigation.
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>>151587777
>Best Jojo
>Shit in any way
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>>151587658
Fuck Baoh ova wheres is my Gorgeous Irene ova?
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>>151587638

Bitch I started reading when the scans only went up to part 4 (and even then it was the Duwang scans). I think I'll just watch the anime adaptation of VA so I can be as surprised as all the other animeonlies
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>>151587777
Why did Bruno steal part 5? I mean I get that Giorno is shit compared to him, but still.
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>>151587801
He still did Josuke's job in his place.
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>>151587758
I read through it with shit scans and found it mediocre and full of characters I barely cared about. When it started being redone and I finally took another look at it I fell in love, but I can only imagine how much more enjoyable it'd be if I'd had a good translation that didn't overlook personalities the way the old one did.

Also your filename should be gio_beard.png.
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>>151587801
>Kira stole Part 4
>doesn't even show up until over half way
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>>151586906
>What Tusk Act 4 really looked like
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>>151587821
Why did Pucci steal part 6? I mean I get that Jolyne is shit compared to him, but still.
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>>151587823
>Josuke's job
Josuke is a high schooler

Jotaro works for the Speedwagon Foundation
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>>151587823
Reread and/or rewatch the fight. Josuke did 95% of the work, all Jotaro did was score the finishing blow on a guy who was almost done for so that Josuke wouldn't have to be a murderer.
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>>151587841
Josuke is the protagonist
Jotaro is a supporting character
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It's kind of hard to tell what's going on in the B&W scans. Not bashing on Araki's artwork but it's so detailed that it can be troublesome to well whats being drawn at times.
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>>151587841
Jotaro was also a high schooler when he defeated one of the most broken stands in existence.
>>151587858
Yes, Jotaro got the finishing blow. That's the point.
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>>151587860
>Josuke is the protagonist
This is honestly debatable given how many scenes are not from Josuke's point of view, especially towards the end
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>>151587686
>just realised why Kira had to tell Hayato his name on the first loop and hence consequence loops
Kira doesn't say his name on the loop where everyone dies.
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>>151587890
>Jotaro got the finishing blow. That's the point
Who cares? They needed his time stop ability to prevent BtD from triggering
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>>151587685
Don't listen to them. Part 5 is my favorite but it's completely comprehensible to skip it if you want to have a good first experience with it.
The new translation is almost done, 3 volumes left IIRC, so you can start it if you want to.
If you end catching up just wait for the new scans to come out.
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>>151587894
Poor Josuke. His part was stolen from him.
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>>151587831
>It turned the robot face into a demonic energy skull face (or in another perspective, no face at all, which is just as creepy)
Imagine being chased down by this monstrosity across all dimensions, unable to escape no matter what.
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>>151587827
And from that point on he's basically the protagonist. Josuke is just reacting to whatever he does.
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>>151587939
By this smug fucker.
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>>151587922
>Who cares?
Those who think he outshined Josuke.
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>>151587593
Bites the Dust is the strongest time ability except MiH and King Crimson.
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>>151587962
Here's the full list of characters who stole the protagonist role from Josuke:
>Koichi
>Rohan
>Kira
>Jotaro
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>>151587890
>The fight and the brunt of the work and all the iconic moments being about Josuke is meaningless, Jotaro and Koichi chipped in last
>ONLY THE RESULTS MATTER REEEEEEEEE
You're really boring, Diavolo
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>>151587939

>Koichi chapters
>Rohan chapters
>Kira chapters
>Hayato chapters

And 90% of them were better than Josuke's crap.He's the worst JoJo
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>>151586906
Yasuho is my favorite ^_^
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>>151587995
It depends. It's not suited for battle at all, so I'd still rank it below time stop.
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>>151588026
I'd still put Josuke above moralfag Jonathan.
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>>151587931
No no, I've already read part 5. When I first read it the good scans were only up to midway through White Album and as a result I was tremendously disappointed by the quality-drop after that. I love the part as a whole now, but I'd encourage people to wait for the good translation if they haven't already read the shit one. Stuff like Abbacchio's death would've moved me even more if I hadn't read a shitty version of it before.
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>>151588003
>forgetting Hayato
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Why was every trying to rape Lucy in Part 7?

There was no point in the Valantine rape scene, it was just cheap writing to make him seem more evil than is actually was. There are no deeper philosophical meaning or symbolism behind the rape. What did Araki mean by this? What was he trying to imply here?
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>>151588003
What about Stray Cat?
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>>151586906
Borrowing a piece from a drawanon
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post cool jojo cosplay
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>>151588100
He was showing that Valentine was a bad man uninterested in anything but personal gain. He doesn't actually give a fuck about America and just takes what he wants when he wants it. There was a point to the scene.
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>>151588032
It doesn't. Time stop can't stop it once it's already been activated.
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>>151588121
The fucking face ruins it.
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Post doujin plot ideas. Pic unrelated
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>>151588069
Sorry, I meant to reply to the guy who actually skipped it.
I share your point of view.
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>>151588121
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>>151588137
>>151588100
And it was to demonstrate the Corpse's relevance to purity and so on too, right? The corpse teleported into Lucy to save her from Valentine and signify that she was the one who'd been chosen by it, but Valentine's delusion led to him thinking it was siding with him.
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>>151553929
I got emotional when he started crying about mama and papa and when it cut to his drawing on the desk later.

It was like watching a kid with legit downs in RL getting bullied. Or a really ugly puppy who can talk.
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>>151588137
>He doesn't actually give a fuck about America
wewlad
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>>151588121
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Lads I cant finish part 8
It's so annoying to read
I'm at the part where you meet little higashikat fag in dress and its getting more and more annoying, I thought Joshu was the worst it got
And the pacing is just terrible
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>>151588180
Instead of trying to make Reimi turn around, Kira forces her at KQ-point to give him a handjob. Arnold ends up saving the day and bites his dick off at the end
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>>151588180
In the back of the car, Trish notices Mista and Fugo checking her nipple out and asks if they're interested in seeing what else she's got.
All this while the rest of the gang is in unaware in the front of the car.
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>>151588148
I said "not suited for battle". Kira needs someone who knows about his secret, and he either needs his opponent to ask that someone about him, or that person to talk about him to his opponent. That's too much setup, and it wouldn't be effective in battle.
Meanwhile, time stop is very straightforward and effective
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Tequila Joseph is objectively the best cosplay choice
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>>151588272

Just grin and bear with it. Hot-blooded beetle battles await
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>>151588254
That was the whole point of his character. America is just an excuse to do what he wants when he wants. He doesn't even treat other Americans with respect, like when he shot that officer who risked his life to get important intel into another dimension just because he couldn't be bothered dealing with him. It's all just to put him on top, but he's such a good liar that he fooled himself into thinking what he's doing is right.
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>>151588137
Doesn't that contradict his entire character? He may be selfish for his country but he wasn't selfish for himself, he was a true patriot. If anything, Johnny is the selfish bastard who desires the corpse for himself.
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>>151588259
>fupa fighters
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>>151588180
Joseph slutting around in the tequila outfit.
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>>151588241
It's automatic for a reason. And even then it lets Kira go back in time a full hour and remain fully aware.

It's a stronger time power.
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>>151588329
How long till it stops being shit
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>>151588310
That is the fucking strong
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>>151588259
>"Just happy to be here" Josuke
Otherwise known as "Part 4: Diamond is Unbreakable"
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>>151588338
He WAS selfish for himself though, the whole idea behind his and Johnny's arcs was that Johnny was insecure as fuck and doubting himself over everything whereas Valentine was a good liar who made people believe that he wanted what was best for his country when really everything he did was in self interest. Only when Johnny manages to see through Valentine's bullshit and realise Valentine isn't some noble hero but a liar like him is he able to have confidence in himself and kill him.
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>>151588331
>he got rid of one guy in a comedic scene
>that means he doesn't care about his country
Johnny pls
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>>151587795

>not liking Crazy Noisy Bizarre Town
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>>151588282
>>151588284
>>151588362
Thanks folks.
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>>151588310
Could it be?! Jorge Joestar Kira?!
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>>151588180
Shinobu tries to seduce Kira and he gives her an orgasm by liking her hand. (somehow)
We go through all generations of the family and witness the procreation of all joestars.
DIO fucking all his female followers.
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>people STILL think Valentine was actually concerned more about his country than himself.
He was far more self serving than that, America just got picked up because he was American. He's such a good liar that he's managed to convince himself that doing things for himself is doing things for America.
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>>151588430
Not him, and he does care about his country, but literally only because of what he can get out of it. He's the very definition of selfish but he's good with words and makes it sound prettier than that.
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>>151587888

It's all the ink. He lightens up a bit halfway through Part 5 thankfully. Narancia vs. Fromaggio an eyesore for most of the fight.
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>>151588365
It's a BETTER time power, yes, but it's definitely not inherently stronger because of all the constraints. Do you really think Kira could use this power in battle against DIO?
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>>151588483
Truly the worst kind of evil.
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>>151588483
What do you think his motivations were then? Power? The guy can't even use his stand without killing himself. Whenever he switched bodies he "dies".
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>>151588483
>>151588530
I like Pucci and Valentine because they have that whole thing going on but seeing how badly people misinterpret both characters in wildly different directions is always pretty depressing.
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>>151588390
The plot actually continues when the first Rock dude pops up, which is the next arc if you're on the crossdresser kid part.
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>>151588180
Notorious B.I.G tentacle-rape

Starring everyone, not just Trish. The tentacles don't go up Mista's ass though because he's not gay
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>>151588535
Those were his motivations though, Araki made that crystal clear in the final scene of Johnny and him. Him dying from his Stand I don't get though, but canonically Valentine was only trying to help America because of what he'd get out of it personally.
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>>151588604
A little prostate stimulation isn't gay
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>>151588604

>Mista's not gay
Okay anon
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>>151588259

>Niggayasu
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>>151588452
>DIOxEnya
Imagine her pendulous breasts flopping on top of his abs as she rides his cock
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>>151588483
>He's such a good liar that he's managed to convince himself that doing things for himself is doing things for America
That is the dumbest fucking thing I've hear in these threads today. Congrats.
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Does anyone ACTUALLY think Valentine was selfless though?
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>>151588635
Did I do good, guys?
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>>151588636
Jonathan may cuck him beyond death, but that doesn't mean DIO can't have revenge himself.
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>>151588627
A lottle is though
>>151588629
Every fucking man in Buccellati's gang is a trampy little cockgobbler, please just let me have this one paragon of heterosexuality
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>>151588636
>Hasn't seen Young Enya

I'd hit that Centerfold of a woman like a Road Rolla, да.
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Did the same anon who uploaded the first DiU OST on Mega do the same with the second OST by any chance?
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>>151588670
Looks like it lol
>>151588653
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>>151588259
>Lost KLK fan

this is the only one I don't get
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>>151588670
What he did is still selfish towards the rest of the world, but to deny that his motivation was the betterment of his country would be foolish.
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>>151588636
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>>151588693
Young Enya isn't canon you dumb shit. Go big or go fuck yourself.

We grannyfucking now
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>>151588693
2 reasons to watch the OVA
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>>151588686
>Mista confirmed most alpha male in picture
>Won't do doggy because it makes Trish get on all fours
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>>151588686
Pannacotta, treacherous faggot, Fugo is totally bi, he seemed quite interested in Trish's nipple.
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I want an ability/concept like "Purple Haze" where he is pretty powerful/unstable power without being OP/have it be done right. What do you think would be good idea for this?
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>>151588739
Reminder that since DIO's closest advisor in Part 3 was Enya and Diego married an incredibly old hag it's implied that he has a granny fetish
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>>151588726
Purely because of what he got out of it. I'm not the guy saying he didn't care about America but he only cared because of what he got out of it. He's selfish on numerous levels, even if what he was doing would help like 1% of the global population and damn the rest.
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>>151577380
A funny thing I find in part 8 is how a lot of shit could be solved if Crazy Diamond existed.
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>>151588259
>Happy Joseph
>dat Vanilla Ice

My dick is so confused
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>>151588751
She's so small that it would be like fucking some ugly muppet

>>151588790
I thought he was just a gold digger
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>>151588515
>Do you really think Kira could use this power in battle against DIO?
Depends whether or not DIO asks the person he turned into a bomb if they saw Kira. Or if he can trick them into writing or saying his name. Or by avoiding conflict altogether by travelling back an hour and doing something else with his time.

He could use it, but like you said, it's situational so he probably wouldn't get a chance to do it. Unless DIO decided to fuck around and not kill him instantly.
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>>151588778
Purpe Haze was meant to be OP for the eventual traitor arc but then Araki scrapped that idea and Fugo was now redundant and too situational to work in any of his other planned fights and got cut.
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>>151575277
lmao
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>>151588624
>him dying from his Stand I don't get though

Whenever goes to another universe, he gives D4C to another Valantine who then continues his goal. The "original" Valantine died long before the story started. If he was truley selfish he would not of attained this particular ability, there would be not point for him to.

He has extremely questionable methods, and his ultimate goal isn't the most admirable (America an insurmountable superpower) but he believes he has the best intentions at heart.
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>>151586552
Echoes isn't bad, its just that Koichi was so retarded he didn't find any other uses except for Freeze.
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>>151588624
>but canonically Valentine was only trying to help America because of what he'd get out of it personally
Where the fuck does it say that? His plan was to turn his country into a utopia at the expense of all other countries.
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