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What will be remembered as THE Papika face?
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>cockona
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>>151440212
Even though Cockona started as generic forced meme, all the tongue shoops that started because of it definitely made it the most memorable for.
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>>151440240
Anon please, at least post the exploitable version
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11944672/ (embed)
http://www.strawpoll.me/11944672/ (embed)

Flip Flappers 1-12 stream. Deciding the time. Vote if you haven't yet.

Will be settling on a time about 24 hours from now so we have a day to inform people clearly.
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>>151440173
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>>151440212
Flappy Papi Flaps
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I love Papika!
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>>151440922
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>>151440943
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>>151440922
But she's retarded.
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>>151440968
>>151440980
I don't care!
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>>151440980
Papika is a genius.
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>>151441160
>she'll never spit in your mouth
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Between this and Izetta Autumn was a pretty good season for almostyuri.
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>>151441628
Don't forget /u/phonium.
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>>151441628
There was nothing almost about Izetta's magic broom ride.

>>151441644
There's nothing yuri about that trash.
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>>151441628
True enough, but I wouldn't have rioted if we had at least one goddamn kiss.
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>>151441628
>almostyuri
This isn't /u/ you can actually just call it yuri here.
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>>151441796
I've never been there much. I try not to since every time someone does some anons cause a shitstorm I've always suspected fujoshit involvement.

>>151441741
>magic broom ride.
That was one of the best moments of the year. I just wish the ending had been a little more involved that faceless people and no talking at a cabin.
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>>151440173
I hope papika becomes the new chaika and is always on the front page.
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>>151441910
She will always been in my heart regardless. I'm gonna enjoy the BD re-watch too.
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>>151441910
Even Chaika is mostly forgotten now.
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Coconah?
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>>151420173
>gave Cocona something she had longed for, that feeling of being unique to someone else

This is shown clearly in episode 2 and its why "I've loved you since you were born" won over Cocona.
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>>151440173

This one is not even close but I'm posting it anyway.
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>>151441981
Papiyeah?
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>>151442056

Yeahyaka
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>>151441981
This is the face that did it for me.

Forget about the ending for a moment. The first episode is one of the most memorable introductions I've seen in years.
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>>151441981
why is she so retarded?
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>>151442457
To give you specifically a vehicle for self-insertion in to the story.
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Don't forget to send cards anons!

We're making a thank you image! The card will be a collection of images into one big image sent to them via Twitter using imgur. The due date for submissions is 12/30/16 at 9:00 am pst. Send all images to [email protected]

>Dimensions
600 by 600 pixels
>Why not here? it's an imageboard after all. we'd just have to reply your post.
Its hard trying to shitpost 24/7 to have to go around collecting images
>Why not real postcards? I want to send one. But there needs to be a campaign for it to mean something.
I'm not sure how this would be accomplished so I'm limiting it to digital.
>Who are we sending it to?
@binobinobi the directors twitter
>>151441981
Hhhnnggg.
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>>151440173
PUT THE HAT DOWN
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I've literally no idea what this show is about
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>>151442842
NTR
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>>151442842
It's about teenage lesbians having anal sex.
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>>151442842
Coming out of your mom.
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>>151442842
Memes.
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>>151443008
Haven't seen that one before its good though.
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>>151442864
>tfw your favourite girl gets NTR'd
Kill me
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>>151443008
ahahahaha, that's fantastic
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>>151443008
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>>151442842
Cute lesbian girls tripping on drugs hard.
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ofuro~
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>>151443655
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>>151443655
I must have it.
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>>151443655
I need it now.
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>>151443655
delet
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Why did this show get so bad?
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>>151442697
I'm embarrassed to be associated with you people
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>>151443899
it's still not really bad, but once the plot kicked in and the adventure stopped the magic was gone
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>>151443899
Mimi
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>>151443914
Excuse me I think you will find magic is still very much a part of the show, Yayaka transformed for the first time this week. Thank you very much.
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>>151442094
Aaahhn~ I wanna taste a creambox!
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Just an update on pic included, is from Megami Febuary issue. It's an insert illustration instead of a pinup though so it'll be a bitch to scan cleanly.
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>>151443655
Niiice
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At least doujins will give us kissu
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>>151444046
I was trying to see that for ages yesterday, there was a link of 2ch but it just kept not working.
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>>151444095
Forgot the image
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>>151440212
This
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>>151444095
If this show had a flaw, it's definitely the lack of kissu.
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>>151444046
Papika's outfit seems extremely lewd
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>>151444115
Is Cocona OK? She's making a weird face.
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>>151444169
Her dog is trying to eat her tongue, of course she's making a weird face.
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>>151443865
>>151444062
>>151444115
>>151444121
W-why are they kissing? They're both girls!
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>>151444220
Adolescence.
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>>151444242
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You know what, when this show started I kind of hated Yayaka despite realising she would be redeemed at some point. I was convinced that even when it inevitably happened I would definitely still hate her. Now I love her.
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>>151444327
Please elaborate on how it is possible to hate YYK. Her design screams "good guy working for the bad guys." She even plays with a damn kitten in like the second episode.
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>>151443865
This looks beautiful, I hope Tora or Melonbooks sell it because it surely won't ever get scanned.
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>>151444327
I'm a little mad at this show for making me not want Cocona and Papika share a kiss now. I guess it just goes to show how good the anime is if my least favorite character becomes the undisputed best.
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>>151444377
She was (seemingly) unnecessarily mean to Papika.
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>>151444062
what the FUCK
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>>151444327
I liked her up until ep11. Now I hate her.
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>>151444327
she was my favorite character the moment she appeared
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>>151443072
At least yours is relevant.
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>>151444377
She used underhanded tactics against and constantly stole the hard earned shards from what were at the time our two main protagonists.
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>>151444394
Yayaka: from smug to punished to yuri dork.
Now my favorite kind of character development
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>>151444327
I can pinpoint the exact moment when I started liking Yayaka. It was when she stopped the twins from pursuing Cocona even though she was bandage modo.
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How big will the shitposting be this Thursday? Practically every other big anime will be done by then. Everyone will be concentrated on this.
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>>151444455
best hair
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>>151444377
She went full retard in Ep9.
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YYK deserves happiness!
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>>151444483
Depends on what's going to happen. Papika has won the Coconabowl, but imagine if the director went and did something trolly like making Cocona and Yayaka kiss for whatever reason. The reaction would be nothing less than nuclear. I'm sure we'll burn through threads like fire either way though. There's no ending that won't get a fuckton million shitposts.
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>>151444483
Don't post about meta shit faggot
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>>151444507
yayaka is cute!
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>>151444455
She'll be restored to her old self, Cocona will be overcome and will hug her... "I'm glad to see you too... but why are you so excited?" And yeah, I know her VA is not coming back but that's no reason to smash my dream OK?
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>>151444507
Cute. Wish I could draw her instead of Uexkull.
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>>151444507
Fixed it
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https://twitter.com/mu_ta_bi/status/813394092746936320
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>americans wake up
>it's yayaka time
sasuga
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>>15144456
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>>151440173
Im surprised i havent seen a "explain this bullshit" edit yet
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Toto is going to die

Yuyu is going to fly into a rage and blame Papika, since she mortally wounded him

Yuyu kills Papika in Episode 13
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>>151444614
YAYAKA CUTE
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Papika is going to be overcome with emotion.

Papika will rape Cocona.

Mimi will crush Papika, Yayaka will win the Coconabowl.

Only lasts about five minutes before Mimi turns everyone into Tang®.
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I need more Tomoko Papika.
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>>151444697
So moé~
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Anyone else think Mimi's baby was Cocona?
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>>151444753
The baby is Mimi.
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>>151444753
I'm the baby.
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>>151444614
it's still not in the correct format for the postcard you know
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>>151444795
Its just a mock up right now, probably going to digitalize it first.
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>>151444753
Nyunyu.
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>>151444886
I actually cannot draw digitally hence the paper first version. I have to rely on a paper version and then cleaning it up digitally.

also kek
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>>151444911
I deleted my post because I *really* don't want to draw those fuckers out.
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>>151443910
Too bad, you're here forever.

>>151444062
Thank god for fanartists
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>>151444922
everyone knows traditional artistic methods > digital.

digital just looks flashy and colourful so people think its good
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>>151444614
SP is much better than ergo proxy.
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Is there a name for this specific type of horror? It reminds of some recurring nightmares I had as a child and it fucks me up like nothing else
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>>151443655
>shoes inside, on a bed
Dropped
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>>151444971
i wish i could menstruate
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>>151444971
So many scenes from this show seem to have been included exclusively for the sake of making us shit our pants during the previews.
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>>151445064
And people still think the show can end in any other way generic happy ending. Some just never learn.
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>>151445089
I've already given up on this show having a satisfying ending.
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>>151444971
Surrealism.
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>>151445088
same, but i still want to bleed from my boipuss (female)
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>>151444971
Dunno about a name, but there's Yume Nikki
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FLFL end will be thought provoking, tragic, and intellectually advanced. It will advance science fiction by 50 years, being imitated by every anime director, but never improved upon . Truly the Evangelion of EOE.
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>>151445313
>Eva of end of Eva
what does that even mean
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>>151445335
Madoka.
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>>151445340
Flip Flappers is the Space Dandy of Evangelion, the FLCL of Madoka, an avant-garde post-modern helter-skelter aggregation of, more or less, discordant phantasmagorical acid trips laced with yuri fanservice in which all current partaking female's breasts are no larger than A cups.
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>>151445447
>giving Cocona Mimi's eyes
Good
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Best design
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>>151440173
Papika love Cocona just like Jacob love Bella's daughter.
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>>151445727
I don't know how you kids are getting mad at that brofist. It's incredibly fucking gay-- isn't it what you wanted?

Also I think it's adorable, both as yuri and not.
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>>151445741
Good post
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>>151445763
There are people watching this show who spend every moment waiting for Cocona and Papika to kiss. That's what they hated about the brofist. To them it was like a handshake under mistletoe.
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>>151445741
That author is into some preety sick fetish stuff
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>>151445782
What's wrong with those people? The situation during the scene was very clear that a kissu would be incredibly cheesy than a brofist because they had to fight the monster first.
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>>151445782
Brofist implies brofisting though.
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>>151445814
They were reuniting after being dramatically separated. It was a perfect time for a kiss, anon.
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>Mr. Takashi Murakami is doing sarcastic art in the animation industry by not completing animation, don't you think?
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>>151445869
That was not a mood for kissu. Kissu needs them to be comfortable and relaxed with the environment but they were fighting together.
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>It's actually more gay if people don't kiss
When did I click on /u/?
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>>151445918
If they're the opposite sex yes.
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So, Salt is Mimi's dad right?
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>>151445727

> フリップフラッパーズ12話お疲れ様でした。かなり大変な話数でしたが強力な助っ人が来てくださったので楽しくできました。最終話も絶賛作業中なのでぜひ見てください!!#フリフラ_アニメ
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>>151445964
I am your dad
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>>151445964
No, he's Cocona's brother in law.
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>>151445964
This is not Umineko.
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>>151443655
Sayuri confirmed for sexual predator
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>>151446022
it was always obvious
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>>151446022
I love how Yayaka is just facepalming.
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>>151446022
this is making me uncomfortable
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>>151446022
>ぺろぺろぺろ
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So, I'm Papika right?
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>>151446022
>minigirls

THATS MY FETISH
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>>151446313
I'm Cocona and I fap to you every night.
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>>151441981
this
this is the face
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By the look of most of these, since I recognize them, most people seem to have dropped it right around the third episode. I'm proud, but at the same time confused since many more of you finished the series despite recognizing the best part was the beginning.
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>>151446432
Papi and Coco = Bloom and Knightley characters (main couple no one care about)
Yayaka = Jack Sparrow (best character that carries the show)
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>>151446474
>Yayaka > Cocona >>> Papika
>Sparrow > Knightley >>> Bloom
You might be onto something.
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>>151444753

BTW if anyone hadn't realized yet Papikana in Mimi's timeline is the same as Papika in Cocona's timeline.

This is further confirmed when we got to episode 11, the one that connected Cocona and Mimi's timeline. There we see that Papikana was one of the few who managed to flee into the stable Cocona timeline, along with Salt.

She couldn't do it in *time* so she regressed in Age.
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>>151446523
What are you, a time loop theorist?
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Now that the dust has finally settled can we all agree Mimi was a mistake?
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>>151446559

Excuse me, theory?
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>>151446601
Mimi did nothing wrong
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>>151446327
It's actually giant Sayuri since that's Jack and the Beanstalk world.
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>>151446644
Shit, well a giantess is fine too.
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>>151446601
It's all on Salt. He should've dicked her more.
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>>151444971
It makes me think of a film equivalent to imageism.
Rather than showing the viewer everything and giving them a clear picture of what's going on, the presentation is pared down until all that's shown is the absolute bare essential to have any comprehensible image at all. The result is a series of stark and loaded impressions without anything to help you decipher or interpret them. Emotionally intense, vivid impressions presented in series without the rest of the stuff that would normally help us make sense of them. The impression becomes dreamlike because it centers so heavily around these singular intense experiences while leaving out the in-between details.

Imageism was a movement in poetry that focused on applying these ideas to language, but I feel like a similar thing has been done here with the visual presentation of that scene.
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>>151446601
Writer change > Mimi

Search your heart anon, you know it to be true.
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>>151446601
You mean inside of the story or for the series?
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>>151446754
Oh please, the human eye can only perceive 5 writer changes per season, you can't even really feel it
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>>151446750
This whole post reminded me of this
>I think Tarkovsky utilized an aesthetic that can be compared to the poetic movement of Imagism. He certainly disliked the semiotic conceptual approach to visual theory, focusing more on the surface itself - a sentiment shared by his idol Bresson. Only the pictures that were captured and projected were the primary means of expression, without any "deeper" meaning attached to them, and they were rendered with painstakingly minimalist techniques. Thus all that remained on screen, be it the shot of the throbbing temple of the soldier-instructor in The Mirror or the mysterious and exhausting pool crossing in Nostalghia, was the image - pure, poetic and transcendentally powerful.
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>>151446903
Tarkovsky would really despise the previous episode.
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>>151446866
>feeling the writer's change with your eyes
That's somehow kinda lewd
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>>151446903
I don't really know anything about film theory, but I guess my comparison wasn't too far off.
I wonder if there's a proper film term for its equivalent to imageism.
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>>151446921
Tarkovsky would hate every non-Oshii anime
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>>151447011
>You'll never have hot tsundere sex with Yayaka after she looks at you like that
I should have asked for rope this Christmas.
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>>151447022
Tarkovsky hated sci-fi, but soviet government made him film it to win international awards.
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Anyone else wish Yayaka's Henshin still had her signature pinned-back hairstyle? Maybe longer in the back but still, the bangs look too generic.
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>>151443655
Jesus
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>>151447011
Cocona is one lucky girl.
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At the very least this was the best anime original of 2016.
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>>151447209
>what is Matoi
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>>151447238
Never change, Matoifag.
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>thus born the new low of degeneracy : fetuscon


I know anime is weird but this is a whole new level desu.
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>>151447238
Shit.
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>>151447209
>going to argue
>remembered all my favorite show this year were adaptions

Well you might just be right. Let me think a minute.
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>>151447238
Thank you anon, you have truly made these threads special with your matoi posting. I at least appreciate it.
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>>151446303
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>>151447092
Most bigshots from that era hated genre fiction, because the intellectual world had long declared it "not literature" and thus artistically void.

Atwood has a famous interview where she jumps through hoops to justify how one of her scifi books isn't scifi because it's too intellectually and artistically valid, so it deserves a special category that still permits it to be considered literature because it's just so far above genre fiction. She's a pretentious twat, but so is most of the artistic world when it comes to this sort of thing. The bias against genre fiction runs deep.
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>>151447520
気持ち悪い
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>>151447092
you mean the very same government that didn't allow him to accept international awards right
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>>151444455
Ruine forever by evil Papika and Cocona
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>>151444971
I'd call it expressionistic
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Will there be a PV this week?
Will it be tomorrow or wednesday?
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>>151444459
Stole them with finesse mind you. To minimize Cocona and Papika damage/conflict.
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>>151447991
Not even close, nigga.
Expressionism is shit like The Scream.

Flip Flappers has used expressionist imagery a few times, but mostly in shots like this or Grandma's big reveal. It was used less dramatically in episode 2's PI as well.
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>>151448033
Wednesday if we're very lucky.
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>>151444477
>Not episode 8 GET IN THE CAR we're F-flipflapinggu...jpg
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>>151448033
Like the last two times, it will be wednesday if at all. All things considered, I doubt we'll actually get one, though.
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>>151448067
I was more thinking along the lines of "german expressionism" in Film such as Nosferatu and Metropolis.

Basically overloading the visuals with metaphors
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>>151440212
Only because you forced it
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>>151448067
expressionistic cinema exists, but it became fairly rare after the 30s.
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>>151446601

Mimi has done absolutely nothing wrong, she just didn't want her Cocona taken away again
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>>151446022
Goddamn, the way that artists draws mouths and tongues is golden.
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Just caught and holy shit the cockna memes were true. Jesus I can't believe Papika is Cocona's father I mean holy shit
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>>151448252
???
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>>151448252
If Papika were my dad, chromosomes would be different around here!
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>>151448279
I think someone took the "you should watch this on acid" jokes a bit too literally.
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>>151448252
If anything Mimi saying Cocona's dad was afraid of failure confirms Papika is not the father.
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>>151448252
Nyunyu is Cockona's dad.
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>>151448362
>Salt had first time performance anxiety
That's adorable. I bet their clumsy virginsex was the cutest darn thing.
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>only Tuesday
I'm already sick of my backlog just give me more flappers.
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>>151448279
Didn't you watch up to twelve? It revealed that Cocona is actually the daughter of Mimi who was Papika's lover.
>>151448382
>>151448362
There is no way that beta could be the dad plus he was a researcher who was watched all the time when could they have done it? Papika and Mimi easily could of in Pure Illusion.
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>>151448476
>It revealed that Cocona is actually the daughter of Mimi who was Papika's lover
Aside from porn girls usually don't grow dicks to impregnate other girls.
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>>151448476
Fuck off.
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>>151448469
I've tried watching some stuff I didn't start this year but I only managed to watch two episodes the whole day. Flip Flappers depression is real.
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>>151444444
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>>151448535
Sorry I forgot to spoiler tag my friend
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>>151448469
Imagine your life in the postflappers era
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>>151448640
Depends on who wins the Coconabowl
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>>151448585
I'm tired, do not bully, I deleted it. I was just thinking about futa bulges okay.
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>>151448640
Well atleast in the new year other shows will start.
At this point there's only emptyness and backlog
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>>151448665
Unfortunately at this point it is the question of whether Papika wins the Coconabowl or not. Yayaka lost her chances of a kissu.
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I want to start a family with Yayaka.
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>>151441870
>spoiler
Its clearly the case. Thats why i shit post those faggot's threads
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>>151448665
There's nothing more to win. Papika just has to not die. Threesome end is optional but impossible.
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>>151448735
No way that would be immoral to the extreme for Papika to get with her best friend/lover's daughter.
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>>151448735
Sayuri will pull through. You'll see
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>>151448685
Don't lie to yourself, if you're thinking of futa bulges you obviously love being bullied.
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>>151448803
They can still pull some retarded shit like memory purge so it would technically avoid that issue.
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>>151448819
Is that because of 'Cocona and Sayuri in loungewear' concept picture from twitter?
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Reminder that Mimi and Papika are just friends and not lovers.
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>>151445118
>>151446750
>>151447991

questionfag here, I should have made it clear that it wasn't so much the visuals I wanted a word for, but rather the situation of being stuck in a illogical world with an unknown objective, and where failure to comply with an unknown set of rules results in immediate termination of you or maybe the entire universe.

but that's overly specific so surrealist horror is likely the best way to label it
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>>151448944
Papika wanted Mimi but when she found it she couldn't have her she decided to have her daughter instead.
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>>151448944
You know who is usually by a mother's side that will take care of a daughter?

An older sibling. Papika confirmed family zoned, it's Gretel and Hansel after all.
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>>151448944
Is just friends really the word? Even if Mimi fucked Salt I think she cares for Papika more, is this type of relationship should really be called ''just friends''?
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>>151448965
That is very specific. But yeah surrealist horror covers dream-like/nightmarish settings, which is already pretty specific.
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>>151449088
If there's no romantic and/or sexual desires what else would you call it? Sure, you can throw around stuff like BFF but that's still the same category as extreme as it is.
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>>151449088
Salt got a dramatic encounter where Mimi used her daughters body to mount his pelvis and a tear containing some of her power
Papika got a casual dismissal

It's clear who Mimi prefers. Poor puppy can't compete with cock.
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>>151449152
In what kind of relationship do you value your best friend more than your lover? Calling them just friends is undervaluing it, at least in my opinion
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>>151449218
Soulmates.
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>>151448965
i think a term that describes what you are looking for is existential surrealism.

Also, I am teaching myself the art of making webms, pic related. Anyone have any requests?
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>>151449088
It's the "just friends" type of relationship that every yuri couple ever ends up as because actual lesbians aren't as popular as just yuribait. Even after everything Cocona and Papika have been through, done for each other and even after they said they love each other, the studio can still find a way to give it plausible deniability. That's why anons keep hoping for a kiss, because any other romantic gesture and confession just isn't enough. Yuri couples have to jump through extra hoops because of Japan's history of treating them like a phase you grow out of.

That said, Papikana didn't seem to value Mimi as much as Papika cared for Cocona. If you call Papikana and Mimi lovers then Papika and Cocona are practically married.
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>>151449218
Some people will argue that friendship lasts for a lifetime, while lovers come and go. Not sure if I subscribe to this theory, but I can see certain people valuing friends higher, especially if it ain't that grand of a relationship.
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>>151449218
But Mimi wanted to escape with Salt. He just rejected her. Being rejected by your love interest does not make you gay for you BFF.
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>>151449218
>more
This isn't the right way to think about. Your friend and waifu/husbando have different roles in your life.
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>>151449286
>Yuri couples have to jump through extra hoops because of Japan's history of treating them like a phase you grow out of.
Sometimes I hate Japan.
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>>151449286>>151449295

I'm not saying anyone is gay, but I think Mimi cares more for Papika than she cares about Salt
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>>151449333
Mot necessarily. A lover can be a friend you share physical intimacy with and a friendship can be so close that you share everything short of sexual contact.
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>>151449333
Lets say she had to choose one to die, can you see my point of view now
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>>151447146
her hair is unrestrained just like her heart faggot
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>>151449281
This but not crap please.
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Wil Yayacuck kill herself in three days or will she settle for threeway friendship?
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>>151448763
God's work, anon.
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Alright fags, what sort of ending will Flip Flappers have?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11959810
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>>151449674
>http://www.strawpoll.me/11959810
Well made poll, anon
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>>151449286
>That said, Papikana didn't seem to value Mimi as much as Papika cared for Cocona.
You're implying there's a difference between them, but the show doesn't present Papikana and Papika as different people.

>>151449674
I voted for happy ending, I wouldn't call a happy ending in post-Madoka times generic though. Btw, Matoi did that pretty nicely so cheers to the Matoi guy.
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>>151449674
The ending that would be the most satisfying for me is literally impossible. Just burn it all down.
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>>151449801
The exact moment when she dies
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>>151449809
>You're implying there's a difference between them
I just used different names for pre- and post-memory wipe Papika.
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>>151449809
I put a difference between hype as fuck happy ending and a more generic happy ending for a reason, but you are right Anon.

I myself voted for Kingdom Hearts ending, because I honestly think it is the most likely.
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>>151449801
Dibs on her coming back through some pure love bullshit desu ex machina.
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>>151449809
>the show doesn't present Papikana and Papika as different people.
The show present Papikana and Papika as different identities, which all that is needed.
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>>151449859
Nah, that is literally where the Kingdom Hearts ending stuff starts. Even the design with the floating forming islands separating is similar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_woaOKRmew
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>>151449674
>Samurai Flamenco ending
>Hidaka strips naked and proposes to Salt, says he'll do everything that Mimi would do for him
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>>151449801
>doesn't get family or a waifu
Being Cocona shouldn't be this suffering.
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>>151449563
I just passed through that thread. Be careful on bringing this kind of shitposting here.
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>>151449915
The signifiers Papika and Papikana both necessarily pick out the same referent so they must, by necessity share an identity.
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>>151450008
The two psychological identities are independently shaped by completely different circumstances starting from clean slates. It's unjustifiable to claim they are the same identity.
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>>151449942
Maybe we use different definition of die. What I meant is Papika no longer has a physical embodiment in the real world, but if she lives in PI is she dead or not?
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>>151448469
>through early morning fog I see
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>>151450073
But what does that make the current Papika who also has the memories of the her old self?
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>>151449942
>This song in English
What a crime.
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>>151450115
The fact that the current Papika rejects those memories as foreign.
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>>151450110
I dont know. Mimi was never shown to die or be killed, yet she only exists in the physical world by possessing Cocona or as those fragments.
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>>151449890
I think it will end with 3 adults from FF taking care of all 6 of the kids and using them to keep researching PI.

>>151449915
Papika herself always talks about her past as "I did this".

>>151450073
Deaged Papika isn't clean slate. She at least remembers Mimi's smell and is attracted to it. She also knows about surviving in the wild so she might have some subconscious knowledge at least. She was also mentally challenged even when she was an adult.
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>>151450149
But she doesn't
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>>151450142
still sung and written by Utada herself. Her talent is incredible.
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>>151450170
>She was also mentally challenged even when she was an adult.
Rude
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>>151450073
>The two psychological identities are independently shaped by completely different circumstances starting from clean slates.
Except this fails to describe reality. These two sets of experiences are divided by circumstances and not discontinuity within the subject. Hence why the subject can restore one set of experiences anf find the identity which functioned as subject to them congruent with the present subject. The subject instantiated by present experiential ontology and the subject substantiated by second order awarwness or prior experenrial ontology must necessarily share an identity or else they would not result in a stable sibject when brought together. The reconciliability of ygese disparate experiences is predicated upon a fundamentally common ontic perception.
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>>151450181
Yes, but the Japanese still sounds better.
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>>151450170
>Papika herself always talks about her past as "I did this"
Say, how do you distinguish the sexuality of a trans person considering their history?

>She at least remembers Mimi's smell and is attracted to it.
She liked Mimi because she liked the particular smell not the other way around. From the same premise she would like Cocona's smell which is independent from Mimi's smell.
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>>151450310
Literally the only thing I ask for Christmas.
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>>151450322
>Say, how do you distinguish the sexuality of a trans person considering their history?
Mentally ill
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>>151450322
She also sniffs fragments that share Mimi's smell and probably sniffed out Cocona because Cocona has a fragment in her.
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>>151450322
>Say, how do you distinguish the sexuality of a trans person considering their history?
The person doesn't change because they cut of their penis.
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Hey, FLFL thread? It's me, anon. Uh, can we be friends?
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>>151450421
Dai kirai
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>>151450228
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>>151450390
Thanks for providing a supporting argument. So basically Papika is naturally attracted to PI materials, which may also be the reason why she is a natural at entering PI.
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>>151450462
The shards aren't just PI materials though. They're pieces of Mimi
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>>151450462
There's no PI materials without Mimi.
I'd say you don't want to admit that Papika is Papikana because you think it devalues Papimimi relationship.
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>>151448640
Killing myself?
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>>151450497
Now we are going in circle. Say Papika has special olfactory receptors perceptive to the odorants released by whatever the PI materials contained by Mimi. The liking of this particular smell is instinct not an association.
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>>151450438
O...oh.
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>>151450462
>One half of the "Direct Drive"
>Can smell out Mimi and Cocona and shards
>Cocona is not the only possible candidate, they have had other candidates before that met the requirements, even if they did all end in a "bust".

There is something super shady about Papika that we still do not know.
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>>151450608
In this case the instinct would just be a predisposition to making a particular association, so your distinction isn't a meaningful one
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More importantly, will Cocona choose HIGH SCHOOL to apply?
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Do you think Papika has taste receptors in her butt
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>>151450584
I would argue that PI existed before Mimi, it is not like she made the world but she is the one that can access it with the most ease.

In short, there are PI materials without Mimi but getting them would be near impossible.
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>>151450701
The central question I'm arguing here is whether Papika's affection for Cocona originates from her liking of Mimi or just her instinct about the particular smell. If Papika likes the particular smell regardless of her memories about Mimi, it's justified to claim her relationship with Cocona started from a clean slate. If Papika likes the smell because of her memories about Mimi, her relationship with Cocona is then built on questionable basis.
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>>151450749
No but I bet she has copious pleasure receptors there ready to recieve Cocona's turgid taste receptors all across the opening
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>>151448824
I want to be bullied by someone who turns out to actually be really nice
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Reminder >>151442697
Show your love even if it's just kind words, animators are dying on their desks as I type this
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>>151450236
>two sets of experiences are divided by circumstances and not discontinuity within the subject
I'd say this premise is false. There are patent discontinuities within Papika: her deaging by Mimi, and likely memory wipe also by Mimi.
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>>151450961
Now we're getting into a ship of theseus distinction. If you can't address a premise without invoking paradoxical reasoning then you have failed to raise a compelling challenge to that premise.
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>>151451037
>paradoxical reasoning
But this is literally in the show. There is no point continuing this if you're not gonna base your argument on the source materials.
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>>151450693
I bet Papika is originally from Pure Illusion, meanwhile Mimi (and others, not just her) had a strong, natural, psychic connection to Pure Illusion.
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>>151450757
>I would argue that PI existed before Mimi
That actually an interesting topic. I don't think it's stated in the show if they knew about Pure Illusion before finding Mimi, but it's possible that Pure Illusion only exist because Mimi exists, it was created by her psychic powers (maybe without her being aware of it). Even if this is wrong and you can prove PI existing on paper with formulas, if it's impossible to interact with it without Mimi then it effectively exists because Mimi exists.

>>151450783
You whole post basically says that you dislike the idea of Papika and Papikana being the same because it tarnishes the relationship between her and Cocona. And that might not necesarilly be the case, it's not like Papika can't love Cocona because she liked Mimi, in any case the show doesn't present them as different people: Papika herself never denies being Papikana, Salt and Mimi claim she didn't change, Papika speaks to two of them as if she knew them for many years. This is very different from Silent Hill 3 or something, where the protagonist remembers their past memories but strongly claims to be another person.
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>>151451271
>Papika herself never denies being Papikana
But she indeed rejected the Papikana identity. Please rewatch.
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I don't think Papika will die at all.
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>>151451271
Mimi is test subject 33. Unless Ascelpius created PI with Mimi's help, it always existed. And they never meantion creating it.
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>>151451271
There are at least 32 before Mimi or 32 being experimented on concurrently with Mimi. Pic Related. Either way, Mimi is not the first subject of their research, and she wasn't the last either, considering they continued researching even after her escape, and we also had things like the children and what not after they became the KKK.
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>>151451271
Salto says the PI exists in a parallel dimension/universe to ours and is capable of freely merging with ours. That would seem to mean that PI exists before Mimi
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>>151450837
No, you don't.
It doesn't matter in the end...
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>>151451509
One thing, I don't know why-It doesn't even matter how hard you try. Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme to remind myself how I tried so hard......

In spite of the way you were mocking me. Acting like I was part of your property. Remembering all the times you fought with me. I'm surprised it got so far. Things aren’t the way they were before, you wouldn’t even recognize me anymore..... Not that you knew me back then, but it all comes back to me in the end. I kept everything inside and even though I tried, it all fell apart....What it meant to me will eventually be a memory of a time when I tried so hard.
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>>151451271
>You whole post basically says that you dislike the idea of Papika and Papikana being the same because it tarnishes the relationship
Also about this. It's true I dislike the idea but it's not just that. The idea that Papikana and Papika share the same identity opens a whole can of worms of age gap pedophilia oyakodon fetuscon degeneracy which has been memed to death here. I don't believe that is what the creator has intended for the story.
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>>151451624
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>>151451314
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>>151451653
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>>151451652
>I don't believe that is what the creator has intended for the story.
I don't believe creators intended for any yuri romance either.
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>>151451685
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It's not pedophilia if you wait 14+ years.
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>>151451721
except the creator has express confirmation of it.
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>>151451754
It's not pedophilia if your best friend de-ages and removes your memories you so you can fuck your daughter
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>>151451678
今はパピカだよ。
Is the line.
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>>151451769
Truer words never spoken.
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>>151451685
>>151451724
>all this cute art when they're just gonna go for the bad end
3Hz deserves to go bankrupt.
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>>151451863
>All the drama when it will be a shitty generic happy ending
Fixed.
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>>151451765
As much "confirmation" as the show itself offers, I presume? Yurifags are really delusioned.
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>>151451721
The creator and director of the show, Based Oshiyama, confirmed in no uncertain terms at the very start of the season that Yuri is his intention with the show.

Pic related.
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>>151451769
Man my friends won't even help me move
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>>151442655
I kek'd
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>>151440173
That's not how you wear a santa hat you dumb mutt
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>>151451905
>Yuri hinting
>HINTING
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>>151451905
>inb4 "He was agreeing that its fun"
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>>151440173
>Papika will never ever sniff your musty dick.
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>>151451905
>Flip Flappers is a very fun show!
>That's right
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>>151451685
More like Yucoolsukyuru
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>>151451948
>>151451961
Your impedance is entering operational range
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>>151451925
"The hints of Yuri are intentional"

>that must mean there is no Yuri and Yuri is not his intention!

I am starting to think these are just the Yuri On Ice trollposters who got anal blasted when it was confirmed to be homo. They were all in YOI threads saying shit about how everyone was delusional and how the show wasn't gay at all. Amazing how the same week YOI BTFO those posters, we get anti yuri posters in waves in Flip Flappers threads.

Really makes you think.
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>>151451948
kunkun
クンクン
[vs,adv-to,adv] sniff; sniff-sniff (esp. a dog)
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>>151451925
This show could end with Coconuts tongue punching Papikas hatchet wound and you motherfuckers would still be posting "YURI BAIT JUST BAIT"
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>>151451898
>Yurifags
I really wished you yurishitters would have something more entertaining to offer than shitposts.
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>>151452018
YoI didn't BTFO anyone, it just didn't end.
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>it's not yuri unless Papika and Cocona have an entire episode dedicated to an explicit h scene involving nail clippers, each of them achieving no less than climaxes, fucking in at least 4 positions, a verbal pledge of always eating pussy and never touching a dick, and a wedding OVA confirmed by all the staff involved on the project to be canon, with Yayaka masturbating in the background
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>>151452018
The first 20 seconds of YoI were gayer than the whole of FliFla. Back to the director's twitter, the fact that hinting is intentional does not necessarily imply it's anything more than bait.
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>>151452124
A kiss would be explicit yuri, stop strawmaning.
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>>151452054
Its almost like yuribait posters are trolls or something.
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>>151452124
It's just a phase, anon.
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>opens a whole can of worms of age gap pedophilia oyakodon fetuscon degeneracy which has been memed to death here. I don't believe that is what the creator has intended for the story.
I can't think of anything else to say other than get over it. It's a weird fucking show so weird circumstances are fine by me. Papika is a sweet girl without a mean bone in her body. She loves Cocona for who she is and Papika deserves to be loved for who she is as well. I don't think it really matters that she was an adult when Cocona was still a fetus, or that her memories were wiped, or that she was held captive by a bunch of crazy assholes and even Cocona's own father. I think the important things are the way they feel and their willingness to make personal sacrifices for each other, which has been demonstrated. Morality is subjective, you know?
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>>151452157
Trolls? On my /a/?
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>>151452124
Except I find SonoHana less yuri than FLFL because the lack of romance.
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>>151452124
Is the Yayaka masturbating in the background really necessary?
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>>151452197
Nah, it's perfectly fine to disregard everything that doesn't fit your taste and just cherrypick the good stuff.
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>>151452124
No science/magic babies? F you it's not real yuri.
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>>151452214
Peeing on your senpai is romantic as fuck you fool
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Reminder Yuri ending still isn't happening.

Papika and Cocona are going to be separated until the last minute of the show when Papika reappears and nothing more than a hug happens.
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>>151452197
Don't worry. I don't have a problem with those per se. I just hate when those memes are used to shit on the show everyday and there is no rational defense to that.
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>>151452124
>flip flap ends with a 50 year time skip featuring granny Cocona and Papika sitting together surrounded by beautiful grandchildren
>in the background, a TV report on how Dr. Yayaka's groundbreaking ips cell research decades ago saved Japan's population crisis
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>>151452217
It really wouldn't be complete without that.
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>>151452217
As much as Yuyu's ass shots. So essential
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>>151452279
Its so fun to think of a kissu ending though. It is so unlikely, but if it did happen, then the show would instantly be GOAT tier and fondly re-watched every Christmas by /a/-nons.
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>>151452277
I just felt I got served with fucking fanservice instead of the truest form of love know? Those SonoHana girls are soulless dolls compared to what we have in FLFL.
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>>151452217
Yes. It's just a pity that Hifumi is censoring most of it.
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>>151452368
The earlier games like to jump straight to sex but the romance is definetly there
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>>151452312
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>>151452249
If this is a jab at my post you seem to misunderstand the point I was making. I think all that stuff is wonderful because in the end it's not about age, history, or sexual preferences when it comes to love, romantic or not. It's about enjoying the company of a person and wanting to spend time with them because they make you happy.
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>>151452367
I'd mark the fuck out like a black guy for marvel if there's kissu
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>>151443008
Underrated webm.
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>>151452197
Sounds like a very CLAMP conclusion to make.
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It will end with Cocona masturbating alone on this pipe.

>I'm so fucked up.
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>>151452422
>not about age, history, or sexual preferences when it comes to love
Unfortunately most people are not as open-minded as you. Which is why we have to find excuses for them to not be distracted by their own predispositions.
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>>151452422
Yes, you just ignore aspects that would complicate the issues because as you worded it "the creator didn't intend that for the story". You are not the creator, so ignoring the text of the work saying the author surely didn't mean it just makes you look stupid.
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>>151452422
>in the end it's not about age, history, or sexual preferences when it comes to love
Sure, but a relationship can only sustain so much baggage before things just don't work out anymore, and you can't see eye to eye with your partner any longer. Papikana's history is pushing it.
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>>151452424
I have a buddy who I used to watch anime with all the time. Hes coming over to visit on thursday, and we are going to marathon Flip Flappers from start to finish. Our first anime together in years. He has no idea what it is even about. Meanwhile I wont see 13 until the marathon. If a kissu happens, we will probably both lose our collective shit.
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>>151452422
>in the end it's not about age, history, or sexual preferences when it comes to love
You wouldn't be saying any of this shit if Papika was a dude.
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>>151452579
>goes back to the pipe
>finds nothing but the clover crown
>holds the crown close, hoping there might be a small chance
>"flip flapping"
>nothing happens
>despair
>new years is ruined
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>>151452657
Not him but I wouldn't even be watching this
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>>151452657
nah, you just have shit taste senpai and haven't been around the chillest fanbases.
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>>151452623
>things just don't work out anymore, and you can't see eye to eye with your partner any longer
That's just another way of saying that you no longer enjoy their company and want to spent time with them, so Anon pretty much covered that.
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>>151452542
I don't understand that reference but sure why not. In the simplest terms, you love the personality, not the physical person. You can love a 40 year old if they have a certain personality. You can also love a 10 year old if they have a certain personality. It's not about categorizing the person's physical qualities and analyzing the morality of being attracted to those qualities.

>>151452615
>because as you worded it "the creator didn't intend that for the story"
That's not me. I meant to quote this anon >>151451652 in my post here >>151452197. I just didn't understand what you were trying to say here >>151452249 so I thought you were taking a jab at me. My bad I suppose
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>>151452646
You should marathon YOI and give him long meaningful looks the whole time.
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>>151452725
I guess my point is the final episode has to address this point, and how the characters feel about it rather than just, "love conquers all, aint gotta explain shit"
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>>151452657
If Papika were a dude, we'd never hear the end of NTR memes because of SaltxMimi.
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>>151452657
I probably wouldn't like it as much but that's just my instinct as a man. I would see a potential(not really) mate(Cocona) being taken by another male and that subconsciously pisses off my stupid monkey brain.
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>>151452646
It seems like a good one to break out of a "man, FUCK anime" rut. Space Dandy did it for me with its trippy visuals and sense of fun, and FlFl has those in spades
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>>151452615
>as you worded it "the creator didn't intend that for the story"
He didn't post that. That's my words.
>You are not the creator, so ignoring the text of the work saying the author surely didn't mean it
Maybe I didn't present this side of argument but how did you reach the conclusion that I'm ignoring the text of the work? Probably you've never considered the other side?

I posted my analysis of the nature of love in papicoco here >>151363710 . Basically as I understood the creator wanted to present a love than transcends time but the script somehow misled you into focusing on a singular aspect of that.
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>>151452787
Oh that'd be a disaster
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>>151452689
dun dun dun dun dun duuuu du du, socchi mo kocchi mo...
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>>151452756
>I don't understand that reference

Its a theme or conclusion reached in most of CLAMPs manga series. Its the main theme of Card Captor Sakura as well.
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>>151452785
I really hope Cocona doesn't address it in any way and just kisses Papi. It won't happen, but I don't actually need them to talk about their age differenc.
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>>151452785
How would you react if Papika's disappearance is Mimi's last act of overprotectiveness.
>She's too old for you, so I will not allow it.
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>>151449674
I don't see any option for non-generic happy ending.
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>>151452958
Happy endings are all alike; every unhappy ending is unhappy in its own way.
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>>151452958
hype as fuck gurren lagann happy ending is an option.
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>>151452958
>Drills that Pierce the Heavens Hype as fuck happy ending
>Strip Naked Marriage Proposal that solves all the conflicts in the show happy ending
>Congratulations! followed by the End of Flip Flappers movie that ties stuff up happy ending
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>>151452958
>Drills that Pierce the Heavens Hype as fuck happy ending
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>>151453002
>>151453003
>>151453005
Those are all quite specific.
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>>151453002
>>151453003
>>151453005

Hype mind
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>>151449674
I'd like the final episode to end with with some kinda mystery/cliffhanger as the FLIP FLAP FLIP FLAP intro begins to play, but we're probably gonna get a happy ending with OVER THE RAINBOW playing during the credits instead.
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>>151453070
That over the rainbow song though. It sounds like it could be the kind of song that plays to create contrast and the world falls apart.
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>>151452857
I want to see Papika explain herself and when she's almost done, apologizing and on the verge of tears, Cocona says "I don't care about the past." and shuts her up with a kiss. Then Papika tears stream down her face as she returns it.
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>>151453124
>kissu
>character growth
just perfect if it's real
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>>151453070
>Final Boss fight
>Suddenly Masaki Endoh

How hype would this be?

For those of you who are plebs and don't know who that is, Lurk More. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYCRTmGonlM
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>>151453111
>the world falls apart.

As it all.. comes tumbling down?
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>>151453111
Instrumental version of Over the Rainbow has already played in various episodes. It even played in Episode 1 while they were playing in the snow.
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>>151453181
No, it's rebuild third impact, earth getting sucked into the sky
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>>151452958
>Papika disappears. Cocona womans up, finds her, and kissus her, but now they can only travel through PIs with no way home.
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>>151453200
Papika's vocal is cute.
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>>151453111
Kek wills it
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>>151453216
This is the Kingdom Hearts Ending though
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>>151453228
Your numerical egregore bears no power here, begone, heathen!
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Stop worrying anons, it will all be okay. We had a perfect thread the other day for telling the greatest ending to an anime ever
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>>151453111
I never realized how much I wanted this
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>>151453238
Weren't they separated in that one? That's bittersweet not happy.
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>>151451627
Uh, man, is that a riddle?
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>>151453268
thats right. As soon as that one anon claimed that dubs would signify the most perfect of endings for Flip Flappers, everyone got dubs. It was a christmas miracle!
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>>151452124
Well, even after that I think it's probably just a phase, don't you agree?
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>>151453303
copy paste it into google.>>151453277
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>>151453277
They were seperated, but Sora promised he would keep adventuring and traveling worlds until he found her.

At the end of Kingdom Hearts 2, he found her and they returned home.
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>>151453330
Oh, right
Never was a fan of metal in my youth so I can't really recognize those
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>>151453359
>Metal
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I remember one anon who will eat his shit if something particular happens in the finale. What was the game again?
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>>151451627
After this show end I'm almost sure people will you remember you and your shameless Linkin Park plug-ins.
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>>151453395
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>>151453412
Fuck, I remember telling him to stream it, but I don't remember either.
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>>151453412
He posted so many "if X happens i will eat my shit" that I don't think it matters.
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>>151453395
In my veins, Gin Tonic
In my heart, Tecktonic
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>>151453412
I never forget.
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I don't even care about the ending anymore, I just want it to be over. Either way it's going to induce Pure Rage or Pure Depression and knock the better part of my January to shit. I just want to move on and enjoy anime again without being constantly fixated on Flip Flappers.
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>>151453493
Some shitposter also promised to eat shit if it would hurt a yurifag, he never delivered...
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All the Flip Flappers merchandise there will ever be.
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>>151453124
It would be such a cop out
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>>151453352
Just going by that description the ending for KH1 is a downer, while ending for 2 is generic happy.

Generic Happy is:
>everything is fixed and the couple stays together
while bittersweet is usually:
>everything is fixed but the couple is separated
so a
>some shit's still broken but the couple is together and having fun adventures
end is what I would call a non-generic happy end.
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>>151453530
http://myfigurecollection.net/item/514874
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>>151453553
>some shit's still broken
Define it
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>>151451652
>The idea that Papikana and Papika share the same identity opens a whole can of worms of age gap pedophilia oyakodon fetuscon degeneracy which has been memed to death here.
I think you shouldn't worry about stuff like that.

>>151451678
>>151451314
Not the same as saying "I'm not Papikana". And she replies to Salt from a standpoint of someone who personally knew him. You say "identity", but identity also means the way other people identify you meaning she can be saying to Salt "it's inconvenient for me that you refer to me as Papikana". Also, she was "papika" to Mimi from the very beginning.
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>>151453528
How would he hurt a yurifag by eating shit? Is it het shit?
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>>151453530
Is there any way for gaijin to get ahold of that stuff?
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>>151453579
I did. >>151453216
>they can't get home
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>>151453617
It literally was "I'd eat shit if it would hurt a yurifag"
>>151453640
Just be ready to spend a lot of money on it and you'res et.
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>>151453713
I think it actually was, "I'd eat my own shit if it made a yurifag cry."
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>>151453587
>I think you shouldn't worry about stuff like that.
I don't. I just don't like there is no one bring up rational arguments against those memes.

>Not the same as saying "I'm not Papikana"
What other interpretation do you have if it's not rejecting the Papikna identity?
>identity also means the way other people identify you
Sure, but we are discussing how Papika self-identifies here.
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>>151453784
That's an almost admirable dedication to arguing about Chinese cartoons.
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>>151453576
I hope it happens.
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>>151453540
I disagree. As long as Papika explains herself to Cocona and Cocona makes a decision about it, anything more would just be a bonus.
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>>151453530

Infinite made a dakimakura for every character in Sorameso and Shirobako. I just want a Cocona dakimakura so that I can hug her. The other side should be lewd Mimi-possessed Cocona.
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>>151453587
She doesn't say "Call me Papika" she says that she is Papika now. If she wanted to say call me Papika she could have said パピカと呼んで but the actual line is 今はパピカだよ.
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>>151453927
>The other side should be lewd Mimi-possessed Cocona.
I'd buy three.
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>>151453927
>tfw moving out of parents' house just around the time all those FlipFlappers goodies are released
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>>151453806
>bringing up rational arguments
>against memes
anon pls
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>>151453927
Not Cocona in swimsuit with backside being that massive rump?
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>>151453977
Would you rather have me shitpost instead of starting a discussion?
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>>151453992
You'd need two dakis for Cocona's butt.
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NEW OFFICIAL ART

NEW OFFICIAL ART
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>>151454027
It's fanart, we've known this for weeks.
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>>151454021
Way ahead of you
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I wonder if there is going to be some truth dropped at the talk event with Oshiyama after airing that destroys some peoples interpretations.
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>>151454017
I'm just thinking that trying to argue with memesters is a waste of effort. I'm holding off on digging more into Papika's history until the show has finished. Your sentiments are appreciated though, so thank you.
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>>151454109
First there is the death of author. Second Oshiyama is not gonna reveal his world setting is actually shit so I'd be glad to wrong in that case.
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>>151454109
>its not yuri, I think its just like adolescence
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>>151453992

No, Cocona's massive rump requires an ass mousepad.
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>>151454109
he might confirm some stuff about certain characters or the nature of PI.
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>>151454109
He'll probably says it's up to one's interpretation.

>I think it would be great if people could look at it and say, it's a wonderful friendship, and other people would say their love is more than that

Something cliched like that.
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>>151454109
I'd rather something out of left field that sends us into speculah over drive. Like

>I really liked the subtle connection between bu-chan and AB-chan
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>>151454027
Some frames from the series itself are as /u/ as your picture.
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>>151453806
>>151453936
>What other interpretation do you have if it's not rejecting the Papikna identity?
Because she knows revealing it will cause nothing but trouble (to Cocona) so she'd rather just sweep it under the rug and leave as new person to the others. But she (to herself) doesn't become a new person because of that. So she can avoid troubling Cocona and making her mad (she only tells Cocona about her past when Cocona flips her shit and demands it).
And in the end she says herself "*I* loved you since you were born" so she is the person that knew Cocona since she was born. She doesn't think she only met Cocona recently. She also considers herself the person who was asked by Mimi to take care of Cocona.
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>>151454171
Well the advertisement says that he is going to talk about unknown things and the world view of Pure Illusion.
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>>151454109
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>>151454316
Yes? He won't give the talk if his world setting is not good. Being wrong in speculah is nothing. We just catch up with it.
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>>151454240
>AB-chan
We will probably not learn more about her, right? It's already all implied by episode 10, isn't it? It would be a shame, she looks so much like Cocona.
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>>151454338
What's the word he's talking about?
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>>151454387
AB-chan is just a meme, there is nothing to know about her.
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>>151454423
Most likely about the word "Evangelion"
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>>151454309
Why did you link me? All I was doing was pointing out to you that she doesn't ask him to call her something else, she says she is something else now.
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>>151454387
There will be no justice for AB-chan and we're just gonna ignore the child murder, yeah
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>>151454387
>she looks so much like Cocona
No other girl can even dream to approach the perfection that is Cocona.
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>>151454566
>timeskip cocona with a kid
Fuck.
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>>151454608
It says Cocona and Sayuri right ther on the paper.
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>>151454583
>no matter what's the conclusion, Senpai will stay an empty shell of a person forever
Fucking PI explorers.
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>>151453972
Hey same. What a coincidence
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>>151454643
Have you ever had some hobby or field of interest that you dropped for no reason (just lose interest) when you was a kid? Really makes you think
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>>151454309
>knows revealing it will cause nothing but trouble
This rather contrived thought process didn't seem to have any real effect. She still spilled the beans. Salt still called her Papikana. So what is its purpose of this line if it had no consequences in the story? Proclaiming her new self-identification is my interpretation. I'm afraid we have to agree to disagree here.
>*I* loved you since you were born
I think the creator's intention is rather
>*I* loved you since <a non-specific and very early time point>
while "you were born" is just a misleading line that distracts from the core of their relationship.

I agree the two identities can't be completely distinguished. She had new purposes or rather synthesis of identities after regaining her old memories, but what matters here is which identity she self-identified as.
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>>151454566
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>>151454485
She wasn't murdered
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>>151454707
So the flip flappers have been fucking around in my deepst psyche parts!? Fuck.

BRB installing some crazy ass defensive traps in my brainmind.
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>>151454707
This is /a/, being a well adjusted normalcy with friends is worse than death
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>>151454707
But art wasn't just a hobby for her, it's what made Iro who she was. And it was completely lost.
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>>151454741
>Sad Sayuri with hair tied up
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>>151454799
RIP Salt.
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>>151454566
What program is that they're drawing with?
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>>151454566
>Cocona and Sayuri in loungewear living together
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>>151454815
You mean RIP Papika.

>sweetie, I'm sorry, but she's gone
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>>151453806
The taboo against age-gap stems from the fact that unequal power dynamics make it highly likely that those relationships will be abusive and cause harm to the younger half, even if the older partner has the best of intentions.

Normally society can not watch all relationships and put a stop to only those which are abusive, so instead we use a blanket ban to protect minors. This possibly causes a mis-match between what is moral and what is harmful since many harmless relationships become collateral damage.

Fiction does not suffer from this limitation. Since the audience is in a position to watch and analyse everything that happens between the couple we can throw away the taboo and judge for ourselves whether Cocona is being harmed by their relationship.

The only remaining problem then is the idea that showing this sort of relationship in media could break down the cultural taboo that protects minors.

The sort of person who uses the term degeneracy tends to reject the idea that culture can be influenced by media so that shouldn't be a problem for them. Unless they are arguing in bad faith and that rejection is merely born of convenience and not sincere belief.
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>>151454749
>We know trying to send kids into PI kills them if they fail and has a success rate of around 2/45.
>Fuck it, throw em in anyway
>Oops she died, oh well

How is that not murder?
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>>151454566
Why does Cocona look like she has holes in her chest?
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>>151454855
She was just unconscious. Would Sayuri let that happen to a Flip Flap recruit when she was willing to help nurse an enemy back to health?
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>>151454423
Evangelion
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>>151454862
It's QB
A Madoka reference
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>>151454846
>cultural taboo that protects minors
That's the core point. Just looking at 2ch-kun's translations nips are merely confused by the age gap.
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>>151454737
>I'm afraid we have to agree to disagree here.
Sure thing.
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>>151454171
>Oshiyama is not gonna reveal his world setting is actually shit
Anno did and Oshi-tan's a new face. Anything is possible.
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>>151455041
>Anno did
since when?
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>>151455050
first ancestral race was a mistake
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>>151455041
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>>151454839
They'd better not do it.
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>>151454778
>it's what made Iro who she was
Only from the perspective of Cocona. And you. That's pretty cute. Iro's new self and interests are just as important to her as her old ones.
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>>151455225
It doesn't matter what they changed, the fact that they changed something is messed up in itself since they somewhat mindbroke her. The problem is that she's not the person she was, in some way they killed her (metaphorically). She's ruined just like Salt's father.
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>>151455377
>The problem is that she's not the person she was
Why is this a problem? Are you a different person if you've got depression and got healed after therapy?
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>get last guardian for christmas
>been waiting 10 years for that game
>barely even played it
>instead just lurk and post on flip flappers threads all day, in between rewatching my favorite scenes and listening to the full OP on loop
>Liked every episode, even 12, but still worried about 13
>can't stop thinking about the show
>Episode 13 is one of the most anticipated moments of the year for me now
>I only just picked up the show the week before christmas

Holy hell, do you guys realize how much of a shining gem you guys have with this show? I typically pick up 5 or so shows every season, and almost always drop all or most of them by the time I hit episode 6 or so. It got so bad that I just stopped watching anime for good back during the summer season, last thing I watched was loosely following Luluco because there was so little time investment needed for that.

2015 was a disappointment, the only show I was able to finish and enjoy was School-Live. The first half of 2016 seemed to offer no substance.

I honestly was starting to feel like I had "grown out of" anime. That It just wasn't for me anymore. And then I decide to try this show on a whim and end up completely blown away and reminded of why I fell in love with Anime in the first place. What an amazing show- seriously, appreciate this one guys, I don't think we will get another like it for a long time.
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>>151455430
Don't forget, this is a directorial debut show. How often do you see this happen?
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>>151455415
Therapy does nothing like that. We do not posses means to do so.
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>>151455430
People are just panicking over the last 3-4 episodes being full of plot, as if the majority of the show is made null by this inevitable need to conclude things.
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>>151455430
Anticipation is a hell of a drug.
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>>151455430
>you won't get an anime that starts off like an instant classic and then shits itself like a champ at the last third for a long time
Well that's a relief.
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>>151455551
Papika is my anti-drug.
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>>151455430
I know right. This show is undiluted fun.
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>>151455430
I barely passed exams at uni because of Flip Flappers and all of you
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>>151455492
That's not my question.
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>>151455457
>this is a directorial debut show.
Pretty sure he directed some episodes of Space Dandy
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>>151455457
Well earlier this year Kiznaiver was also a directorial debut and looked absolutely gorgeous
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>>151455654
Did Papika-posting make you dumber?
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>>151455721
>episode director
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>>151455769
I love love LOVE Papika!
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>>151455770
Did you watch Space Dandy?
The series director had basically no influence on the episodes
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>>151455769
If it made me dumber, I wouldn't have been able to pass at all. Papika is a GENIUS
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>>151455801
He didn't just direct his episode:
Script (ep 5), Storyboard (ep 5), Episode Director (ep 5), Animation Director (ep 5), Art Setting (ep 5), Guest Character Design (ep 5), In-Between Animation (ep 5), Key Animation (ep 5)
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>>151455801
Are you seriously saying the amount of effort in directing a series is the same as an episode?
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>>151455377
Oh I agree with you on that. Specifically, mindfucking her without her consent is definitely a crime.

But Cocona and Papika are not really at fault since there is no way they could have known that their actions would have those consequences.

Salt though, he could have told them beforehand what the DPI gate looked like and how dangerous it was. The fact that he didn't was incredibly stupid and neglectful, to the point I would almost call that a plothole given what happened to his father. If anyone is to blame for the harm that befell Iro then it's Salt.

I'll shed no tears when he dies on Thursday. It means he will not breed the Sayuri and that is a Darwin award well-earned.
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>>151455928
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i want papika and cocona to scissor each other intensely while over the rainbow plays or else i drop
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I love love LOVE you guys, and I am truly going to miss these threads and the week to week discussion after the show is over.

tfw just like how cocona is going to lose papika on thursday, I am going to lose my precious anons....
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>>151456020
I want that too but it's not happening.

We will just have to enjoy S2 without you.
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>>151455906
The episode was probably a huge amount of work for him personally. He directed, storyboard, scripted, designed and animated the whole thing.
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>>151456078
we'll always be here ready to have another adventure together, anon!
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You shoulda been here for the funposting over the past few weeks. I got here after episode 4, and even though I apparently missed all the really good threads, this has been the most fun I've ever had on the internet, bar none.
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>>151455510
The plot was too ambitious for 13 episodes. We had 2 episodes worth of time in flashbacks. So some character stuff was delivered really clumsily and with no proper build-up (twins looking up to Yayaka for example). However, we've yet to see what they actually want to express with it in the end. Maybe this Mimi storyline will turn out the best way to express it.

>>151455928
>But Cocona and Papika are not really at fault since there is no way they could have known that their actions would have those consequences.
I was joking about blaming them, but I do believe they did something really bad. At least one person (Cocona) liked Senpai, so that means Senpai, even with her flaws, was a person worthy of being loved, so no one has right to say that that person didn't deserve to exist.
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>>151456078
We'll always be here... We'll just be surrounded by no-fun-allowed faggots who will ruin everything.

FLFL has those awesome mix of obscurity and dogwhistle-like appeal to a certain specific like-minded demographic that was awesome.
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>>151456092
He did more than usual but series director is still a paygrade above it with different level of responsibilities. He proved himself as a capable series director this time which is why I'll follow a future series directed by him not because he could make amazing episodes in other shows.
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are you faggots trying to make me cry with all your talks?
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>>151456153
>I was joking about blaming them, but I do believe they did something really bad. At least one person (Cocona) liked Senpai, so that means Senpai, even with her flaws, was a person worthy of being loved, so no one has right to say that that person didn't deserve to exist.
This show is thought-provoking in spite of how fun it is. God damn they're great at this.
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>>151456205
I'm not entirely sure what kind of point you are trying to make. That episode is just as much his as anything in Flip Flappers.
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>>151456234
You know, I get that you're all reminiscing about all the good FF shit, but there's no need to take it to pathetic levels like this.
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>>151456297
whatever nigger.
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>>151456297
let us be nostalgic and have our fun and talk about happy times. No matter how good episode 13 is, even if it was somehow absolutely perfect, it is still a funeral- an ending not just to the show, but to our time having fun in these threads together.
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>>151456352
OMG UR SO PATHETIC NOT LIKE ME I'M COOL... TOO COOL FOR THIS EMOTIONAL SHIT.
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I have a feeling anons that the shows ending will be beautiful, a master piece. Flipflappers will grow big over time and we will be able to look back and say, we were there when it aired, we were the first.

Thank for the journey you beautiful bastards but this is just the beginning
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>>151456271
Someone is saying space dandy episode is his directorial debut show. Fucking semantics. FLFL is not his directorial debut film either.
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>>151455867
In any case making a Dandy-style standalone short movie that borrows some characters is not comparable to directing a whole TV show.
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>>151456396
And we have no coherency, and we will get flooded out by utter shitposters and dumbasses before it's over.
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>>151456352
>let us be nostalgic and have our fun and talk about happy times.
You can do that without taking it as far as possible. It's cringy. Like here: >>151456396
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>>151456442
fuck off faggot. Go shit post somewhere else.
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>>151456442
You are giving me embarrassment by proxy.
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>>151456442
>cringy

LIKING THINGS IS UNCOOL *draws katana*
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>>151456442
nah, its honest. And I for one appreciate that anon for opening up to us like that. Its nice.

I have reservations about the ending, I dont think the show will get big like he implies. But I really do appreciate the anons opening up and sharing their true feelings without a censor
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>>151456479
is a katana also a phallic symbol? what does anon drawing his katana mean?
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>>151456549
Of course it is.
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>>151456549
Everything is a phallic symbol. Even this string of text, being somewhat oblong, is a phallic symbol. It represents the power of language, like a penis, injecting my thoughts (semen) into your mind.
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>>151456549
We need Frued here
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>>151456603
Does that mean shitposting is rape?
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>>151456549
STROKED 10000 TIMES
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>>151456624
lets not turn into SJWs.
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>>151456624
In a way, everything is rape.
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>>151456660
Why do you rape me?
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>>151456479
I would think there's a clear distinction between
>Oh man, I really liked this show and these threads and now it's all about to end! It really sucks, hope we can get something like this again soon even if it's unlikely.
and
>I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS LITERAL MASTERPIECE IS ENDING I'M LITERALLY SHAKING IN ME LITERAL BOOTS, M8, WOE IS ME

It's not even that good. It could have been had they realized that they were biting far more than they could chew in regards to the plot (it really should have either started earlier or made simpler so that the little time it gets doesn't strangle it).
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>>151456687
Shut up, you're the one raping me!
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>>151456687
because you want it, you little slut. I see your anus puckering ever so slightly tighter just at the mere suggestion!
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>>151456689
>It's not even that good
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>>151449674
Sora no Method end
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>>151456621
Greetings. I approve of your phallic activities on my turf.
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>>151456549
>>151456621
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>>151456404
It is a directorial debut. Just not a series directorial debut.
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>>151456689
Let me guess, not even top 3? or are you feeling that writer change?
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>>151456689
>It's not even that good
One of the best shows of the decade so far.
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>>151456781
Hi guys! I just got reincarnated!
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>>151456850
The latter. Most other anime this season just fucking suck so Flip Flappers is still in my top 3.

>>151456868
See, that's what I'm talking about. You guys need to take it easy.
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>>151456912
Your big long ears really make me think
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>>151456914
>you guys need to take it easy

Tell us what you would put above it and then perhaps we will. Right now you are saying "Its not that good" but relative to what? I sure can't think of much that is better in recent years.
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>>151456914
actually you are the one who needs to take it easy. You are the one getting ass-pained and going off on people because their opinion is different from yours. Just chill bro and let people like what they like.
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>>151456914
>You can't have a different opinion to me.

I am totally serious.
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>>151456914
I totally agree with this anon. Things should *not* be this fun. We need more discussion about how bad webgen animators are, and how their explosions should have more depth, and how it's such a disappointment that Flip Flapper's facial expressions aren't at all expressive.

I mean seriously guys! To actually enjoy something? How degenerate are you?
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>>151456993
Even Jacob Chapman of ANN (the guy who made the show popular in the first place) agrees with this anon.
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>>151456957
About what? A penis?
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>>151456993
>I AM SILLY
Why do I try to be logical with you people.
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>>151457022
Better. Two penises
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>>151457019
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>>151457035
Maybe by putting more effort into it, and not being a literal representation of SILLY.
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>>151457019
>(the guy who made the show popular in the first place)
This was a good one.
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>>151457019
>the guy who made the show popular in the first place
0/10
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