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Yuri!!! on Ice

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Isn't it totally great how we're probably never going to revisit this scene for the rest of the series because KuboYama probably didn't think there was anything wrong with it?
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>>151249088
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Remove JJ

Justice for Otabek
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>>151249183
>He appears in two episodes next season as a background character
Life with Beka as your best boy is suffering
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Save Victor 2017
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>>151248925

I'm using it, I figured their first position
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Is Stamina Anon still around/working on their Bikefairy fic?
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>>151249216
Yeah, maybe they shouldn't have just let him be another filler skater and not put in the shit with Fairy too.
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>>151249256
Check /cm/ for fanfic stuff.
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Time to read fanfiction to fill the void in my heart
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is victor a homo or is he just homo for asian twinks?
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>>151249216
Best boy will be moving to Russia in season 2, r-right?
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It's finally over.
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>otabek is meaningless
>kotomine is meaningless

why, god? why can't you just give me something good for once.
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Let Victor love his pig also

JUSTICE FOR OTABEK 2016
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>>151249249
>bareback cowgirl with one minute pig orgasms

I bet Victors cum face is elegant.
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>>151249311
Who knows.
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>>151249293
I felt nothing at any of this.

I just can't believe it. It was supposed to be their moment.
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>>151249324
otabek was literally there for fairy's shit character progression
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>>151249324
Even Sayo forgot who Kotomine was.
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>>151249293
how are they so beautiful? also, yuuri here looks exactly like in the teaser image, which has always been my favorite look for him. agh, they're so good.
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>>151249256
I still can't figure out what exactly is happening in the lower two panel. Fairy is chasing after Bike because he saw him checking out his ass?
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>>151249311
No he's stuck in Canada with JJ forever. You have my condolences.
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>>151249183
thank you anon! you're the best
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>>151249324
SEE YOU NEXT LEVEL
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>>151249361
Fairy wants to help Otabek with his flexibility.
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>tfw Piggy still doesn't realize how deep Victor loves him and vice versa

Literally all I fucking wanted on the relationship front. I knew full homo was a pipe dream but I at least wanted them to know the impact they had on each other but it's still fucking inner monologues that don't get through.
>hurrr I love Victor I want to be with him forever but also I don't want to kill him as a competitive skater
>hurrr Yuri is love, Yuri is life, I'm going to cry over Yuri leaving me but never going to say how he made me happy

But all that comes out of them is flirting and babble like Excite me! Be my coach longer!

Season two better NEXT LEVEL Baldfat too or else.
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So how soon does it generally take for a new season of anime to be produced? This is the first time I'm actually following a series in realtime. A year? Two years?
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>>151249361
No, he's trying to get Otabek to do the splits too

It's poking fun at him being bad at ballet
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>>151248905
So they're going to have another season where they actually fuck or something?
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Victor teasing about going back to competitive skating and JJ's it was an okay ending
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>>151249336
Punished Otabek

A man denied his medal
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this anime makes me get really fit for some reason
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>>151249347
I found it pretty romantic, especially with the face caresses. Didn't make up for the clumsy handling of their relationship this episode but it did soften the blow. Also my standards have been lowered by all the QUALITY skates so the prettier frames were nice.
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>>151249352
except that he made no difference in the end. yurio finally got agape through his relationships with everyone, not just otabek, and it's never really implied that otabek was special or a turning point. i really thought they were going to have him place higher than yurio in order to show that he could be happy for otabek even if he didn't win himself, but you could have removed otabek completely and it barely would have made a difference.
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>>151249397

They live together alone in S2, it can only improve from there.
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Now that YoI has wrapped up, time to vote for the real best boy.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11931763
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>people talking about JJ winning bronze and screwing Otakbek
>I literally thought Otabek was 3rd

Why do you make them so similar for Kubo
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>>151249400

Depends. This was an unexpected hit so it'll probably take a year at least. MAPPA is a small studio and already has announced their plans through Winter, Spring, and Summer of 2017. Conceivably the earliest would be the same as this year, Fall 2017. It will probably be in production longer though, since negotiations and planning are done far ahead of time.

We'll almost certainly get OVAs and side material to tide us over until then, though.
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>>151249474
Still Vitya even though he is a fool for love.
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>>151249287
This is adorable but what the hell does it say?
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If Season 2 isn't 16 episodes I riot
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>>151249463
they both cucked bikefairy and baldfat shippers
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>>151249347
I did. You missed out, anon.

I felt euphoric even though I didn't get the kissu scene I wanted.
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>>151249497
On top of the animation and writing, YoI also has other things to worry about unlike some anime like getting Miyamoto to choreograph 20+ new routines with original music, chacott designs, etc.
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>>151249474
The Kazakh hero.
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>>151249293
Anyone have any good Bikefairy fics? I have a void to fill.
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>>151249463
He's so useless, fuck. I wish I could return to the good times pre-Episode 11.
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I skimmed through the past couple of threads but didn't see talk on this:

Phichit's cute ice show dream, and the QUALITY crops on the bottom of these 2 female skaters. Could they be skater cameos?
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Victor completely forgot about his coaching fee.
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>>151249583
I legitimately thought the one on the right was Yuuri.
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>>151249393
>>151249409
Thanks
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>>151249538
Same here, I thought it was lovely. The lighting, music, their expressions, the gentle face caress. I can see how one might feel that way but it was the light in this episode for me. Had better animation than I was expecting too, so that was a plus.
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>>151249293
I like that the fujo artists were right about there being a Blue Prince costume variation for Yuuri. It made me insanely happy with this scene.
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Where do you think season 2 will start? Will it be about Victor coaching Yuuri and finally winning gold or about the two of them competing?
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>>151249538

The caresses, the grace of the routine, both of them switching leading position, the trusting romantic gazes were all perfect. Just as good as any kiss. If only the scenes that led up to it were coherent and not rushed.

A het show that pulled this would not be subject to the same amount of shitposting and denial. They'd just have waifu wars and "I want to fuck x" discussions instead. Not that it's much better, but it's less inflammatory.
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>>151249604

coaching fee is a lifetime supply of yuuri katsuki
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>>151249397
>>151249468

> non-skating parts of S2 are a sitcom about Yuri finding increasingly ludicrous ways to no-homo their relationship
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>>151249474
I'm going to get shit for this but Pig's still my favorite character. The entire hotel scene was off but then he goes back to his usual self and had some meaningful conclusions with Yurio, if not the most meaningful. Sorry I have shit taste
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>>151249647
His hair is wrong here.
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Now that we have proof Fairy admired Yuuri from the start I wanna see him interacting with Minami and feeling second-hand embarrassment over his fanboy outbursts. It'd be cute as fuck.
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ep 10 felt like the true ending
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>>151249663
I honestly want it to start at the Banquet, but that won't happen.
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>>151249397
They're only at their halfway point, hell maybe thirdway depending on how many episodes they get.
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>>151249576

>>>/cm/3070378
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>>151249468
>it can only improve from there.
After what happened in this episode are you sure? The hotel scene was weird. Their reunion was also weird because there was no real catharsis, just oh I guess I'm not quitting anymore so let's sweep everything under the rug.

I don't know what happened, they were handled in a perfectly decent manner until this episode. It's not that the love disappeared it was just written so sloppily it didn't come off as sincerely just when it should have counted the most. This is not a good note to go forward on.

But it's love I guess so it's fine. KuboSayo still have a hold on my balls so I'll wait to see what they come up with.
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>>151249610
Me too, then noticed his outfit in the next shot. Could the brown hair one be Evgenia?
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>>151249583
The last frame is so great. I don't even know what's so funny but it makes me smile everytime.
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>>151249583
Pichit wants to put on a Thai ice show but while wearing a costume that is heavily Thai influenced yet says "原宿" (Harajuku, a district of Tokyo)
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>>151249686
Episode 10 should have been the ending.
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>>151249400
I can only see it coming out Winter 2018. They can try for Fall 2017 if they already greenlit production already and have been working it out for a while.

I just hope that it keeps the spirit of S1 at least.
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>>151249679
Same here anon, I'm a Piggy stan until the end.
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>>151249497
Yeah despite the schedule they can't delay too long and lose hype. This is their breakaway hot they gotta treasure it.
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>>151249583
This better be how S2 ends, they'll all be hamsters.
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>>151249682
He didn't even seem like he admired him, more like he was curious about him and saw potential in him only to get let down by his bathroom sobfest.
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>>151249686
Episode 12 should have been this year's banquet and gala with the episode 10 flashback.
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>>151249718

I'm sure because it's a completely different enviroment that can't compare to being at the onsen surrounded by family and guests and having separate rooms or being a few days in an hotel. Living together will force them to relearn how they interact and coexist with each other and will have to become more forward.

It's one of the few good things that came out of this mess.
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>>151249647
Chris looks miles better with all blond hair
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I don't get the Kotomine meme.
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>>151249718
I agree which is why I didnt feel moved by the duet. I was so prepared to cry but the whole episode felt so loveless and strained between them the shift was too sudden. If anything the episode made me wonder if Yuuri really does like Victor
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>>151249776
and a baldfat kiss
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>I'm truly a bird with a broken wing
KILL YOURSELF JJ
I always liked him and just ironically bullied him until this episode aired. I'm not even mad he won bronze, I'm mad he fucked up both skates and won while everyone else tried their best.
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>>151249604

No he didn't.
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>>151249837
The power of leafdollars swaying the judges.
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>>151249785
Seriously, what's with all the shitty undercuts in this show?
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>>151249837
Its the reason Fairy looks so pissed at the podium right?
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>>151249866
You mean the power of his loose ass.
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>>151249866
imagine if the plottwist s2 is jj bribing the coaches and the bronze actually goes to otabek
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>>151249542
I don't think that's a problem if Miyamoto enjoyed it. Chacott will probably come back, but fuck, the costumes in his season has been pretty disappointing though outside of the promo costumes, the Pink and Blue Prince outfits, Yuuri's Eros and YOI costumes, Yuuri's 2015 GPF FS outfit, Otabek's FS costume (which we didn't get to see the trick it has, shit), young Victor's mermaid costume and Phichit's FS costumes.
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>>151249604
It's 5 world championships or a lifetime supply of Staminaâ„¢.
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>>151249782
I can see Yurio crashing in on them constantly, it'll be an interesting dynamic. Lilia will show up to drag him back home.
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>>151249837
I was one of the anons that said everyone was exaggerating their hate for JJ that he was harmless but not anymore. The illogical way he won and the screen time wasted on him is harmful to the show.
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>>151249782
But you're basing that on the assumption that KuboSayo will do the logical, natural thing. They episode proved that they might not.

They could hit Baldfat with the status quo hammer and keep them living in domestic vaguely homo bliss with no more progress or exploration, instead focusing on other skating-related plot.
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>>151249837

>1 year, 8 months, and two weeks before you all CRY
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>>151249909
It was Kubo's boner for him that ruined the finale
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>>151249893
I'm sure Miyamoto enjoyed it but it still takes time to choreograph that many routines with varying themes and ability levels.
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>>151249937
Joke's on you, I'm crying right now.
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Did anyone else convert to bikefairy? Yuri is such a shit he turned me off from baldfat.
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>>151249899
>I can see Yurio crashing in on them constantly

Only if Yurio hates himself, why would you willingly go watch them be a gross couple
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>>151249992
I've cool off Baldfat but they didn't do enough for BikeFairy and I'm not even sure they do much in S2 now.
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>>151249936
I know I'm fujotrash because I don't hate the idea. I just want them to interact more. We know they have sexual chemistry, but what about emotional chemistry.
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>>151249937
There will be OVA's r-right?
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>>151249996
To get away from Lilia and Yakov.
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>>151249992
I've been riding the Otabike since episode 10.
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How are we fairyfags feeling?
I feel great.

We've been through shit in this threads and it paid off, it all paid off.

FAIRY WON
HAPPINESS ACHIEVED

Never in my life have I felt more satisfied about an ending.
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I was wondering why he didn't wear his glasses, Victor ran off with them.
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>>151250029
Aren't they popular with nip fujos? I'm sure they'll be catered to
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>>151249813
>If anything the episode made me wonder if Yuuri really does like Victor
Nah he does, the sudden autismo behavior didn't erase everything that came before. He still loves him, longs for him, is grateful and clearly let go because of AI. It just wasn't presented well.

The problem with Piggy though is he just assumed what was best for Victor and despite Bad's seeming agreeableness to return to competition I'm not convinced it's what he truly wants in his heart.
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>>151250053

But he likes Lilia and Yakov, he cooks for them
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>>151249679
>>151249750
The issue with Piggy was that the story kind of gave up on exploring his low self-esteem issues and shitty social skills, and especially neglected showing how they impacted other people. Someone in the other thread mentioned that he showed some symptoms of autism, and while I don't think he's literally autistic, he does seem to have depression or some other disorder. I know I'm not saying anything new here but if they were gonna have him act like he did in the past few episodes, they should have really explored how it affected his relationship with Victor rather than just glossing over it.
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>>151250073
I love Fairy but I'm still unsatisfied by this ending. It just felt empty.
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>>151250073
I'm a fairyfag but I still hated the ending.
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>>151250105
Yeah they pretty popular with that little screen time but there doesn't seen to be any set up for anything post S1.
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>>151250130
>he does seem to have depression or some other disorder

doesn't he say that in the first episode to yuuko?
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>>151250073
JJ ruined everything for me.
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>>151249992
BikeFairy was always my OTP with BaldFat being a dear second, but after that hotel scene I don't think I can fuck with BaldFat anymore.

Yuuri's response was not remotely that of somebody with anxiety. It really was soulless. And the whole way the scene was framed didn't even seem to suggest there was something wrong with it, which made it all the more of a turnoff.
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>>151249992
Baldfat became more interesting for me but only if they fulfill the potential in season 2.
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>>151250115
I really can't tell what Viktor wants, so, I can't blame the pig for not knowing either. His frowns over his broken records and him saying it was insulting having them both broken make me lean towards him actually wanting to go back, though.
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>>151250140
>>151250145

I liked it a lot, Fairy deserved it.
I'm incredibly happy.

Baldfat will get a whole new season for them.
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>>151250161
He says he got bored of feeling depressed, but not that he has actual clinical depression. You can be depressed without having depression as in the actual illness.
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I liked that they explained the whole bathroom scene, Yurio wanted to motivate him in his own way.
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>>151250209
He was still a cunt for doing that though
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>>151250115
I'm happy that he at least starts out by saying "Even I'm worried about making a come back while still coaching you at the same time", its not much but I guess its a step in the right direction of communicating more.
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>>151250161

He said he was depressed, but decided to snap himself out of it. He's definitely got anxiety problems that negatively impact his life outside of whether or not he loses, though.
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>he doesn't have the stamina!
>he's going to collapse mid-performance!
>there's no way he can win!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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kek, I just noticed JJ is not in Pichit's ice show dream.
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>>151250254
Nor is Yurio.
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>>151250205
We've already discussed this before, people with depression (as in, the mental illness) can get flares of clarity and try to get themselves together, however that wears off and you come back to your previous state and the same problems show up again. It's a cycle.
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>>151250157
I think there's plenty of potential for them in S2 but I almost hope they don't touch it now that they've proven they can fuck up literally anything. I'd rather get nothing at all than have BikeFairy ruined.
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The hotel scene wasn't as bad as you're all making it out to be.
Disloyal faggots I swear
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>>151250254
neither is fairy
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>>151250276
I fucking know that, I live with it. He still did not say he has clinical depression.
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Did fairy and phichit ever speak to each other?
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>>151250277
I feel like Bike would put up with Fairy's shit, sadly enough. He's too good for him.
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>>151250266
>>151250284
>but Otabek is there
What did he mean by this?
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>>151250248

History was made!
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>>151250186
Seeing him like that after everything in episode 10 was strange though. Him going back goes against his whole character
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>>151250186
For me it was unconvincing because it lacked passion or real happiness, he said he used to be lonely and strangled but the show didn't give a concrete point where this was overturned by a rekindling of his passion for competition itself, his strongest reaction was still tied to Yuri. Looking bummed over broken records didn't seem a good enough push.
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>>151250247
>He said he was depressed, but decided to snap himself out of it

This usually doesn't last
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>>151250301
Me too, hang in there anon, we can do this.

At least we can hope for a better resolution of his anxiety problems than what we've seen at this point.
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People Phichit is not friends with enough to invite them to a skating show

>JJ
>Fairy
>Emil
>Crispy
>Yugi
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>>151250277
Yeah they have do have potential but they didn't even show them doing normal friendship stuff like saying goodbye before fucking back home, not even a still frame with no dialog. What's the point in making him Fairy's first friend at all?
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>>151249679
Yuuri gets a lot of unneeded hate for actually have a mental illness that is a part of him and won't go away because of MUH LOVE OF THE SPORT AND VICTOR. I don't think the hotel scene was bad either. Yuuri was in a bad headspace when we was talking to Victor. He genuinely thought that Victor was yearning to get back on the ice and thought that his bad showing at the SP was an indicator that he will hold Victor back.

While personally, I didn't like that Victor's coming back to skating personally, but at the same time, I can kind of get it because his problem with skating was that he had to constantly re-invent himself to suprise the audience and that became a noose that was slightly closing around his neck. And it's pretty obvious that he did everything to keep that going at the expense of his life and relationships outside of skating. Meeting Yuuri made him re-prioritize everything. Now he is going to skate for Yuuri possibly because Yuuri became the one he wants to surprise now. He won't be able to neglect the things he holds dear now. I think it is also important that they shown Makkachin was with Yuuri as well to emphasize this point.

Well, we won't know until next year.
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>>151250340
I think it was forced as fuck, but I still think that we're meant to believe he wants to go back.
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>>151250309
Phichit probably can't stand Fairy and probably avoids him out of wanting to slap the shit out of that little cunt.
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>>151250281
I agree. I don't see anyone else being this dramatic about it.
I'm perfectly fine with seeing relationships not just idealized all the time but with some bumps and issues, and yeah, it happens often in real life that a person can be callous and not know it. I didn't see it too terribly out of character, but then again, people were already deeming Piggy as Hitler before this episode so I think that could have made it worse in their eyes.
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>>151250281
How in the hell can you sit there and justify him freaking out harder over losing a bag of nuts than over Victor, the man he supposedly loves, crying in front of him because of something he did?
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>>151250340
>Victors theme for the year is wanting to fucking kill himself
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>>151250209
Was it? That whole scene seemed really shoddy and shit to me. Like they were going for one thing but showed something entirely different.
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>cries for Yuuri
>cringes Yurio

Come on Mickey.
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>>151250340
The whole thing just screamed "rewrite for s2" to me. I bet we'll get interviews soon with Kubo revealing the true end where he kept being Yuri's coach or they both retired.
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>>151250393
Fairy has done literally nothing wrong and has the moral high ground
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>>151250362
We didn't see anybody saying goodbye to each other before going back home.
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>>151250417
He wanted Yuuri to win for Ai
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>>151250205
Yeah I think you could make an argument for him fitting the symptoms of clinical depression (and possibly borderline or some other personality disorder), but my main point was that regardless of whether he has a diagnosable condition, the effect of his emotional and social issues on his career and social life seems similar to that of a mental illness or personality disorder. I wish they'd kept exploring that thread beyond the first few seasons.
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>>151250417
They all look so deformed here.
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>>151250417

>I'm going to have to skate against this monster for the rest of my career

There's a chance Yuuri will retire before Mickey does. But Yurio? No way.
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>>151250254
Emil and Crispy aren't there either.
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>>151250362
>they didn't even show them doing normal friendship stuff
what about this moment that was a direct mirror of episode 11?
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>>151249837
JJ a shit but he didn't fuck up his FS, it was almost perfect and it was way more complicated that everyone else.
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>>151250359
Phichit is just that cute and nice and sunshiney
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>>151250340
His biggest issue is that he thought he could only find strength by himself, that's not the case anymore.
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>>151250430
Which is my point here >>151250157 there's no set up for them post series. He is Fairy's first friend but they don't show anything more after that.
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>>151249463
Yeah, he's almost Sousuke tier in how shafted he was. Ironic given nips compared the two since the beginning.
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>>151250130
They didn't neglect it. The show basically said his anxiety will always be an issue for him. Which is very realistic. I liked that the issue doesn't go away because of new confidence or his love for Victor doesn't magically goes away. It's an ongoing process for him. He is dealing with it better though and winning silver did give him the confidence to continue on as some people wanted.
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>>151250470
kek, and he ignored yuuri's davai too.
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>>151250426
>I bet we'll get interviews soon with Kubo revealing the true end where he kept being Yuri's coach
This would honestly make me happy. I understand rewrites for the sake of keeping the cash cow rolling, but the have that slapdash writing be the plan all along is shit.
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>>151250470
And that's it, after that they went back to their respective countries.
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>>151250481
>but he didn't fuck up his FS, it was almost perfect

>started the song late
>skated with all the fluidity of a brick
>fucked up two of his jumps
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>>151250525
>I can't use a phone to talk to my friend
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>>151250525
Like everybody else in this fucking competition?
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>>151250487
I guess his next biggest issue would be to juggle competition, coaching, and trying to get into Piggy's pants all at the same time.
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>>151249397
What lies in S2 will be a contrived MISUNDERSTANDING subplot on the level of Free! that will be dragged throughout the entire season.
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>>151250487
No, his biggest issue is being 28 years old and having taken a year off his career, while planning to coach another skater at the same time. There is a reason Yakov told him that once he left he could never come back.
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>>151250556
You're not following the flow of conversation, there's nothing shown onscreen.
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>>151250447
Yuuri will pull a Victor and skate for 6 more years, I feel sorry for the other skaters.
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>>151250405
He didn't know how to react because he didn't expect Victor's reaction. He froze up. I'm not kidding, this is a legit thing that happens, and I think you and others are reading way too hard into it. He doesn't suddenly not care about Victor even if his initial reaction wasn't the best move.
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>>151250493
Yeah you might notice that they had to skate a competition here for the purposes of their careers

They can't really go for a ride on the Otabike when they're at work
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That ending was fucking terrible holy shit.
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>>151250528
He only fucked on the landing of those two jumps, anon. That's minimum deduction and it was in the beginning of the routine.

Did people forget that the rest of the skaters had to revise their routine to get a shot at JJ? His FP was Victor-tier of difficulty.
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>>151250560
Yes which brings me back to the point, why make him Fairy first friend if it's not significant enough to enough to show even a few seconds of set up?
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>see you next level time
>see you next water time
what did they mean by this?
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>>151250569

Please no, give me BaldFat breaking up due to strain from their careers or Yurio breaking his legs instead of that nonsense.

>>151250568

I really hope he's not planning on coaching AND skating. It's against the ruurus they went to great lengths to adhere to.
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>>151250578
Anon we don't actually see them part without saying goodbye because we don't see them parting from each other at all, there's a timeskip
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>>151250525
Don't worry, they'll be interacting NEXT LEVEL
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>>151250598
I didn't say anything about ridding on the bike again. I said they lack any post series set up.
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>ywn skate with Victor
>ywn wake up next to Victor
>ywn be engaged to Victor
>ywn hold hands with Victor
>ywn kiss Victor
>ywn make love to Victor
>ywn have a Vitya of your own

I-I think I'm gonna do it guys.
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>>151250629
They just said "next level"
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>>151250405

He's a human being and mentally ill.
He's shown autismo traits before.

Victor forgives him and he loves his piggy and that's all I need.
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>>151250073
Damn it feels good to be a fairyfag.

I feel that the ending wasn't as good as it could but I think that for the Yuris it was pretty realistic in the sport side of the story and leaves room for a hopefully interesting S2.
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>>151250633
There you go, you got it. That's my point, they didn't show anything.
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>>151250576
We gotta have some conflict next season, Victor trying to juggle everything and coming to terms with retirement will probably be a main focus. People were wanting development for him.
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>>151250597
He didn't even freeze up, he just didn't react. Seriously, that's what's weird about this scene. It wasn't him freezing up, it wasn't him panicking, it was him nonchalantly lifting up Victor's hair with all the urgency of someone checking the weather report. There was no freezing whatsoever going on in that scene.
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>be top-rank skater suffering under Victor godmode for like a fucking decade
>Victor steps off the ice for one season
>FUCK YES MY TIME NOW
>Victor wins gold by association by choreoing the new kid, gives him a WR
>Victor also wins silver by association by coaching/choreoing WR FS for Katsuki
>Victor announces comeback
>why_even_skate.jpg
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>>151250073
I like Fairy but his entire character arc was shit. Well, nonexistent to be more specific. He didn't learn jack shit, making his victory empty and meaningless.
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>>151250668
After being a Piggyfag all this time, I have to accept my true feelings. I'm really a Victorfag all along.
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What the fuck was going on during Piggy's FS? He went from hyped after being shit on by Victor for not winning gold yet to saying he's a dime in dozen figure skater. Then he suddenly says he wants to keep skating with Victor forever, only to end with "when I leave the rink this is all over".
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>>151250622
Do you really think they're just going to ignore each other in S2 all because they didn't spend a couple seconds doing a meaningless scene of them saying goodbye to each other when they probably already exchanged numbers the night before?
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>>151250506
Yeah I liked that his anxiety didn't magically disappear because of hot slav boyfriend, I just felt like it wasn't treated like enough of a problem in the last few episodes. Especially since he ended up hurting Victor and causing unnecessary angst for them both because of it. Doesn't make Yuri a monster but it is something he should address. That said I haven't rewatched any episodes fully (waiting to watch it with someone else) so maybe I'm just not giving the show enough credit.
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>>151250630

Baldfat will never break up. Yuuri is rabu and raifu.

Stay salty.
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>>151250746
>unloyal slut
Piggy deserves better than you anyway.
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>>151250726
That IS a way of freezing up, having a "flat" reaction to something. He has never seen Victor cry before, so it was awkward for him.

Autistic response or not, he affirmed he'd stay by Victor's side later anyway and that's what Victor really wanted so I can't really complain.
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>>151250846
It's over. See you next year.
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>>151250747
>to saying he's a dime in dozen figure skater
Seems like though he has new confidence he's still not fully free of shit self-esteem.

>"when I leave the rink this is all over".
Victor as coach. He wants to keep skating with him in competition, but he loved being under his care too
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>>151250738
If I was Chris, I would have gave up years ago.
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>>151250846
We sit here for the rest of the year consumed with lust.
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>>151250761
There's doesn't have to be a goodbye scene, I said there's no set up for them post series. We know he's Fairy first friend and then what of it? Is it suppose to be significant or not?
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The wait for S2 is gonna be painful. I can't decide if this ending was bad or good until I see it and MAPPA still has three projects scheduled so we are gonna see YoI probably in 2018.
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>>151250744
He worked hard as fuck and went beyong his actual physical limitations because that's how much he wanted it.

He began the story losing.
He finished the story winning.

He really deserved the win and I'm happy, because he earned it and he got it.
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>>151250761
Looking at BaldFat's relationship, how do we think BikeFairy is going to go next season?
I've got a bad feeling we'll get a season full of bait with nothing to show for it
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I really thought and wish Victor backhanded Yuuri during the hotel scene, what a retard.
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>>151250849
Sorry, I just can't agree. That scene was not right to me and I can't write it off precisely because I have anxiety-driven freezeups too.
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>>151250738
It's gotta be frustrating, he's set it up so that he and the Yuri's will dominate the podium. Their only hope is that Victor will retire after a season or two but the other two will still dominate for a good while. Their only hope is when Yurio takes his growth spurt.
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>>151250738
They really didn't have to do Chris that dirty. He got worse treatment than JJ despite being the best wingman of all time.
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>>151250747
Yuuri is not going to call himself a big shot. But that line is just a callback from Episode 1 and it used as a contrast to how he feels at EP1 to EP12, the difference being that he feels like he's nothing special but it doesn't really matters because he will always skate for Victor.

Plus the kiss and cry bit was that he doesn't know what Victor was going to do after it's all over and believes that they will have to part which is what he doesn't want.
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>>151250884
Honestly, I'll take anything at this point, so long as it means Otabek doesn't get completely shrugged off. Though I think it makes sense for them to be friends before they're anything else.
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>>151250894
Victor was still Yuuri's idol since childhood, it's fucking odd to see someone like that cry in front of you. Yuuri doesn't get close to many people, it's established he's kind of weird in that respect (like pushing away the Detroit girl).
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Victor's ankle is gonna fucking SHATTER holy shit. Worst possible end for him and his career, destroyed himself because he was all fucked up by Yuuri and thought this was the right thing to do. Then it ends with him alone in Russia because Yuuri's fucked off due to feeling horrible about causing this to happen while also not being spellbound by how awesome Victor is. Yurio loses all respect for him as does everyone else. Victor will go down as an arrogant champion that thought too highly of himself and didn't take the twilight years of his career seriously.

When in fact he's just a dumb lovestruck fool that never learned what to do with someone he cares about.
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>>151250884
Like I said, I don't even know if I want them to touch BikeFairy beyond a couple cute hands-off shenanigans scenes where they go shopping together or take selfies together or something. I don't trust them with anything more delicate than that after this episode.
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>>151250738
That's just life in the sport world, for most athletes there's always going to be someone better and newcomers that have more and crazier tricks under their sleeves.
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>>151250876
From a sports perspective, that's great and acceptable.

From a story perspective, it's weak as fuck. Especially when the narrative makes a point that Yurio could only truly grasp his free skate when he has learned agape. He never learns it in any way and whenever he gets close, it's dropped and he reverts back to be a little bitch.

Quite disappointed.
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>>151250971
He's gonna have a perfect season with zero problems because he's the fan favourite. Fanservice will ruin this show. I guarantee it.
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>>151250865
Poor Chris, I wish he'd tasted gold at least once.

One shitty thing about Victor being a monster for so long is that he dominated for a span of entire careers. Skaters like Chris have come and left without ever tasting gold because he was fucking hogging everything especially for the last 5 years.

And now he's poised to do it again, only sharing his glory with a protege he choreographs/coaches and a former rinkmate he choreographs. There is literally no escaping Victor. Even Fairy and Piggy won on Victor's terms.
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>>151250965
He's lived with him for 8 months. The entire hair-poking scene was supposed to be about bringing Victor down to a more human level. It was a cute way to do just that and they tossed it for nothing.

If Yuuri can't figure out that his idol is human after living with him for 8 months, I can't find it in me to like Yuuri anymore. Sorry. That's just how it is.
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>>151251002
Maybe the lesson is that you can win by being a little bitch after all.
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>>151250983
>>151250884
Yeah just go for close friend pandering, romantic pandering might turn out to be drama shit.
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>>151250965
>Yuuri doesn't get close to many people, it's established he's kind of weird in that respect (like pushing away the Detroit girl).
So you're implying Yuri isn't close enough to Victor to warrant the ability to gain common empathy? After several months of being by his side?

That makes BaldFat look hilariously bad.
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>>151250846
Doujin fapping
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>>151250766
His anxiety definitely fueled the last conflict between the two as he felt that Victor is wasting his time with coaching him while Victor could have been on the ice. As some people said, Victor never told Yuuri that he was becoming unhappy with skating. Yuuri knows that Victor will stick with him no matter what but his anxiety is telling him that Yuuri won't be enough and he has to be the one to cut their ties to make Victor free. He seriously didn't know that Victor would have gotten upset over it, which was the whole Yuuri in astonishment with crying Victor scene.
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>>151250894

So?
Your personal experiences don't reflect everyone's.

I'm glad Yuuri showed his bad side. Victor wants to be with Yuuri through the tough moments and that's precious.
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>>151251043
Yup, all I want. Keep it cutesy and sugary with them. No need to delve any further. I'm a fujo, I can read depth into my stupid 2D boy relationships by myself, I don't need anyone putting it there for me potentially at the cost of stupid drama.
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>>151250876
>He worked hard as fuck and went beyong his actual physical limitations
So did everyone else though. But most of the other characters had a more concrete desire to win. Yurio didn't have much at stake since he's the newbie entering the ring. Yuuri and Chris has time against them. Phichit and Otabek were upholding their country's pride. Yuuri and JJ had a marriage waiting. Yurio just wanted it to impress people because he's competitive. It's weak narratively.
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>>151251030
Yuuri is capable of getting scores like Victor too if he skates perfectly, plus he has crazy stamina. It must really suck for the other skaters.
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>>151251126
>I don't need anyone putting it there for me potentially at the cost of stupid drama.
I wish that one day, one day, they will give us well-written the full homo narrative we deserve.
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>>151251033
He did come to know Victor more as a person anon, I'm not refuting that. It's just that I'm sure that perception would still come back at times, especially with how low Yuuri's self esteem is and how he got someone like Victor to be his coach at times. Even if I married a celebrity, I bet there would still be times the realization would hit and I'd be like "oh wow, is this really a thing that happened"
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>>151251112
More power to you then, but like I said, I personally can't accept the scene because it was all the fuck wrong to me. If you want me to spin it positively, I'll say I enjoyed the way Yuuri was written for the first 11 episodes.
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>>151251033
>>151251062

Eight months is enough time to develop but it doesn't mean you completely transform and become free of flaws.

Piggy and Victor are staying together and Yuuri will definitely fuck up and hurt his feelings again and Victor will probably do the same because that's how relationships work.
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>>151251142
Be an asshole, receive no recourse and do everything for yourself because no other motivation matters.

What a heartwarming tale.
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>>151251195
It's kind of strange how Yuuri forgets he's a celebrity too.
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>>151251157
Yeah it's still funny because a Pig win will have Victor's presence all over it. His coach, his choreographer, his inspiration, his homo PDA partner.

And Victor will be 100000000x more insufferable if his Pig wins than if he's won himself.

The only way to be free of Victor's shadow is to kill him.
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>>151251195
>>151251229
I'm sorry, I just can't agree with you. If the scene had actually been framed as being out of bounds on Yuuri's part then I'd be right there along with you saying that this is defensible at least on some level, but the way it was presented doesn't suggest that to me at all. Which is disheartening, because I do feel that Yuuri's anxiety and god-worship of Victor were well-told for most of the series.
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>>151251226
But he showed that side of himself to Minami too and Victor called him out on it. He fucked up but it wasn't like it was out of character.

People just didn't care back then because Minami is so much less popular than Victor
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>>151251102
Yeah there's a difference between the scene in 7 and this one because Viktor knew he was saying something that would upset Yuuri and immediately tried to comfort him because it didn't work as planned. Yuuri had no idea he was saying anything other than a plan they had already agreed on. Yuuri's been under the impression that it would end after the GPF since that's what Viktor said and Viktor never told him any differently. He's genuinely shocked by Viktor's reaction. People are being way too harsh on him. On top of being upset, Viktor was angry, Yuuri might have been hesitant to comfort him because that's not what Yuuri would have wanted himself. I personally would have hated it if they resolved everything with a hug and kiss and all of their problems disappeared instantly.
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>>151251291
He'd still haunt them even from the grave.
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>>151251229
This, I think deep down people are just weirded out that Baldfat isn't as "pure" or whatever idealized thing they wanted it to be. They're flawed people, it's going to be a flawed relationship.
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>>151251291
NICE BOAT ending incoming
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>>151251195
>>151251229
It still makes you a bit of a stupid piece of shit and what's more all this inner turmoil self resignation horseshit happened and he never fucking once approached Victor. He could have at any time but no. That's hard. It's easier if you quit and pretend you're helping others when in fact you jut run from the pain. That's where I get pissed at this shit. Yuuri could have helped solve some of this if he took a step. Victor fucked up too and has even said he's not good with this stuff. But in the end Yuuri caused the biggest pain and did nothing better than the easy way out.


Yuuri deserves a punch in the teeth because maybe that would fucking wake him up.
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It's frustrating that we never got to see them discuss after that cut, it was one of the few times Victor was not composed. Damn it.

I want a real blow up in season 2.
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>>151251341
Clearly you're an expert on communication seeing as violence is your answer to miscommunication.
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>>151251002
Actually, if you think about how Fairy skated his FP, he did learn what agape meant. He went off the rails and skated the Allegros Appassionata routine in a different feel than the prime ballerina that it was intended for. Fairy used his FP to tell Yuuri to keep competing or he's going to make Yuuri's last ride an unsatisfying exit for him.
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>>151251308
But that was episode 5, and you'd think Yuri would've used that situation to become better at it in the future. And you'd think Yuri would be capable of doing such to the person he admires most. This isn't even from a romantic perspective. It's a bizarre interaction and I've never seen anything quite as funny in any recent anime I've watched.
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>>151251304

Yuri on ice as a show rarely calls out shitty behavior. Both Yuris are evidence of this.

And Victor actually called him out twice. Once with Minami and calling him selfish in the hotel room. We're not supposed to approve of Yuuri flaws.
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>>151251142
His stamina issues were mentioned like a million times and he still went over them, because he wanted to win.
he had the same motivations everyone else, but worked more than what his body could give him, he surpassed what his body could do.

That's why I specifically typed, physical limitations.
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>>151251296
Fuck you Hitler
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>>151250629
>See you next Summer
It means we're getting Yuri!!! on Ice: Next Level in 2018.
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>>151251341
>Yuuri deserves a punch in the teeth because maybe that would fucking wake him up.
Yeah I'm sure you know a lot about properly solving conflicts.
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>>151251326
Victor wouldn't have wanted a hug in that situation anyway, like you said he was pissed off.
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>>151251341
I kind of hope that at some point it's addressed how Yuuri appreciates it when Victor meets him halfway, but never bothers to reach out himself.

Victor isn't assertive about his own feelings, but people need to remember that for the most part, he has hustled to ask Yuuri just what it is that he needs. Yuuri never seems to reciprocate. Victor should be more forthcoming, but Yuuri should show more initiative in trying to understand Victor's by seeing Victor's actual viewpoint.
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What was the point of that unused exhibition costume? Season 2 character design? He did seem to have longer hair.
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>>151251341

You realize you can love someone without approving of their mistakes right?

Christ Anon, please stay single. You might actually end up in the nuthouse.
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>>151251474
Nobody's saying Yuuri isn't at fault, but you're actually retarded if you think that hitting him would help at all. It would just affirm his suspicions that he's not good enough.
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>>151251518
>It would just affirm his suspicions that he's not good enough.

He isn't.
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>>151251474

Calm down, you edgy faggot.

Victor would not like you.
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>>151251518
Yuuri would be a prime target for abusive relationships, really.
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>>151251474
>these are the people calling Piggy hitler and sociopathic over one scene

I understand now.
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>>151251555
Some Victorfags are truly something else. I'm legitimately sorry I ever got annoyed by any other husbandofags in these threads because they're all leagues below this mess.
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>>151251548
>>151251583
He had some nice stuff.
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Why did he make this face? What is this expression suppose to convey?
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Aw, I was looking forward to WELCOME TO THE MADNESS

At least the pair skate was good
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>>151251474
And how exactly will resorting to violence make someone own up to their mistakes?
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>>151251548
>>151251583
His FS was beautiful. He is beautiful.
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>>151251474

>wanting Victor to become a wife beater


Get out
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>>151251426
I really thought Victor was gonna hit him here
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Could Victor skating again be what he decided to give him?
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>>151251607
he's gay and doesn't know how to handle it
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>>151251607
He wants Victor to walk him home gently
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>>151251640
Well it certainly made Yuri very happy.
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>>151251607
>I can feel his boner
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>>151251607
He's trying to repress his lewd thoughts about Viktor.

I was joking about it earlier, but watching that scene again, it seems like that's what they were actually going for.
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>>151251607
That's what he looks like being rammed by lil vitya
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>>151251518
>Nobody's saying Yuuri isn't at fault
Except half the damn thread taking the blame off him? Saying it wasn't his fault, it's whatever his mental illness or his anxiety? Except that's wrong, the person still knows what they're doing and especially in their 20s they know the reasons they do it. And he's never faced that sort of repercussion in his entire fucking life. That's why I laugh at the idea he should be defended, because it comes from people like him. Coddled and faced with no consequences for their actions but acting like their lives are so miserable because they're so terrible at life. Yet never improving. Yeah, getting a punch would be so horrific and traumatizing. That's what's terrible.

He's not good enough, he needs to get better and he actively chooses not to. He fucking gives up. He doesn't try and then gets treated like it's okay.
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>>151251607
This is honestly one of the lewdest scenes in the show for me. Lewder than all the naked onsen scenes too even.
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>>151251607
Thinking lewd thoughts
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>>151251640
Quite possibly.

>>151251607
He was willing to let Victor give him a kissu to "satisfy him". That was cute and pretty much shows that there hasn't really been a lot of background kissu if he makes a face like that.
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>>151251686
To be serious I don't know what else this scene could be other than innuendo. And normally I would brush it off as meaningless but these two are different, even if they never did go full homo.
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>>151251698
They're not saying it's not his fault they're just explaining that he's not doing it because he's malicious or doesn't care about Viktor. He's faced plenty or repercussions for it. He has no friends, and he constantly fucks himself over in his career. He literally did what you wanted him to at the end of the episode. He sucked it up and did a perfect FS and decided to keep going. You just don't like him; so, you won't ever be pleased with anything he does.
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>>151251698
Explaining how an anxiety ridden person function isn't excusing his actions but get a better understand where he's coming from. Yuuri isn't doing the shit he does out of malice.
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>>151251698
As someone with anxiety I just want to say that this coddling of Yuuri and saying that he just froze up is unacceptable. The goal of living with mental illness isn't to roll over and accept it like there's nothing you can do when you fuck up because if the chemical imbalance in your brain, the goal is to learn how to work around that chemical imbalance so you can put your best foot forward. Taking all the blame off him does not do him or anyone like him any favors.

I'm not saying anyone has to hate him, mind, but I am saying that excusing his behavior here and writing it off with "well he's got anxiety!" is toeing a dangerous line.
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Otabek is the kaworu of yoi
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>>151251698
>projecting this hard

Literally everyone is saying Yuuri was in the wrong and that this is one of his flaws. Yes he is mentally ill, and while it doesn't absolve him it at least explains that he can't just "turn it off".

People are saying he isn't fucking Hitler and doesn't deserve to be beaten or abandoned by his fiancé, you faggot.
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:3
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>"If you are in trouble, just hug him, and he will help you."
>With Yakov and likely his other rinkmates who know his habits, Victor’s hug is actually not an affection thing or a reassurance but an SOS call.
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>>151251843
But Fairy isn't Shinji.
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>>151251822
There's a huge difference between accepting that someone makes stupid decisions because of a Mental Illness and excusing that they mistakes because of mental illness. Yuuri needs to get better, but it doesn't mean he's evil in the meantime.
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How much bigger are his eyes going to get next season?
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>>151251822
>'m not saying anyone has to hate him, mind, but I am saying that excusing his behavior here and writing it off with "well he's got anxiety!" is toeing a dangerous line.
The problem is that people are acting like what he did made no sense, that's why we're providing explanation. That's not the same as saying he was in the right for doing it.
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>>151251859
>Victor taking comfort
That's what I seen.
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>>151251853
I wonder what Yurio was talking about so excitedly. Plus just the way Otabek smiles as he listens is amazing
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>>151251859
;_;
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>>151251859
Aww, this makes it even cuter.
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that didn't feel like a finale at all. i felt so empty at the end.
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>>151251853
>>151251929
They're cute but there's so little of them.
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>>151251984
It's because it wasn't one. It was the midpoint of two seasons.
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>>151251822

Except nobody has done that.
When people flip out about how out of character it was for Yuuri it's only pointed out that it's really not, especially for a person with debilitating anxiety.

It's shown that he's fucked his personal and professional relationships because of it.

The fact that Victor sticks with him is a testament to the strength of their bond. Not an excuse for Yuuri.
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What if next level means movie?
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had anyone manage to make a /yoi/ simulator?
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>>151251894
No, he isn't evil, but his total non-reaction here with the hair-lifting and the vague annoyance was unacceptable. You don't go and nonchalantly touch a person who is demonstrating openly that they are upset with you, nor do you immediately resort to blaming them when they start crying because of you.

That's why this whole scene is so weird, it's like there was no narrative suggestion of Yuuri being in the wrong despite him doing literally everything a person should not do when faced with the reality that they've hurt someone.
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>>151251990
Next season an episode of Otabek coming to Russia to visit Yurio please
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>>151251853
Reminder that these two are gonna take it to Almaty, smoke mad hookah, and do body shots off of each other in da clerb
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>>151252018
Viktor got fucking pissed at him. How is that not an indication that he's in the wrong?
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>yfw Piggy takes 5 time Champion as another time limit to their relationship and wangsts about it
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I wanted more Chris or exploration of him so damn much. I love him, I hope that cutie with the longer hair is his supportive husband and they just homo it up at their lodge in the alps between seasons. I hope he invites Yuuri over and they chill in a hot tub. Damnit, I want to see Chris in a fluffy pink bath robe bringing wine while his husband makes dinner!
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>>151252077
I hope he does honestly so maybe they'll both learn to stop basing their entire relationship off of their career goals.
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Why is he so perfect?
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Georgi, if you still bless us with your presence, please make my full homo dreams come true for season two.
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>>151252018
>That's why this whole scene is so weird, it's like there was no narrative suggestion of Yuuri being in the wrong despite him doing literally everything a person should not do when faced with the reality that they've hurt someone.

What are you talking about, Victor got mad at them and they were distant with each other until they got to the rink.
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>>151252018

Victor literally fucking tells him he's being selfish, you're just refusing to read the thread.
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>>151252064
People can be mad at each other in a story without the narrative necessarily siding with one of them either way. That's why this was all so strange, there was basically no indicator that the narrative was on Victor's side even if he was the one who got wronged here.
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>>151251859
>An potential good moment of Victor and Yurio making up wasted on Victor being sappy over his husbando
This finale really didn't do much right
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Does anyone have a link to the anon discord? The previous link expired.
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Kubo isnt a victorfag, shes a JJfag and that explains everything
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>>151252032
Yeah something more than what's in S1.
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>>151252110
>>151252119
Victor does not control the narrative in YoI. He is a voice that fits into the overall narrative.

He's right that Yuuri is being a selfish asshole. That's why the scene should've carried more tension that suggested as such, rather than Yuuri just sort of getting away with the whole thing in a weird series of directional choices.
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>>151252126
It's still good for Fairy to see that Viktor thinks he's someone that he can rely on. That has to be at least a little confidence boost for Fairy.
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Did anon ever post the discord that isn't mostly inhabited by faggots?
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>>151252106
Yeah, that's why I didn't like the whole gold = marriage thing. But then again, Victor is autistic about relationships too. That should be a plot point in the second season or these two would never get laid in marital bliss.
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>>151252121

The fuck were you expecting?
For Victor to start beating the shit out of him?
For a Morgan Freeman voiceover to pop up out of nowhere and reiterate how evil he is while he steps outside and gets hit by a truck?

Learn2subtlety.
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>>151252106
>>151252196
I agree. Much of their relationship is tied to skating obviously but that's not all, and that they keep tying it to skating goals and making themselves sad in the process should be addressed.
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>>151252167
The directional choice there was that Yuuri was wrong but you are making the issue way bigger than it needed to.
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>>151252214
No? Why the hell are you defaulting to that of all things? I have never once suggested Victor should hurt him.

What I'm saying is that Victor got mad, Yuuri had a non-reaction about it, and the scene was basically over. It was a weird directorial choice.
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>>151252263
>>151252214
And the Yuuri excusing goes on.
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Gala Paso Doble > Pair Skate

They looked happier and more genuine.
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>>151252280
>literally says Yuuri was wrong
>"Stop excusing him"
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>>151252156
>>151252188
https://discord.gg/eBff4
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>>151252060
Great, now I want Fairy talking a big game but actually being shy at his first club, and then Beku turns him out
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How am I going to cope without Fairy next week? ;_;
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>>151252280
Pigfats have always been some of the worst in these threads. Recall that time someone said they didn't like Yuuri much and sixty bitches got on them saying he's the best MC of all time and anxiety makes him relatable so anon must not like relatable MCs.
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>>151252196
It's like they like torturing themselves, maybe it's their kink?
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>>151252306
>literally implies that anyone who wants to see repercussions to Yuuri's actions jumps to violence
>"you guys are blowing it out out of proportion"
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>>151250373
Totally agree with you, anon
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>>151252275

Then what were you expecting to happen?

Yuuri hurt his boyfriend and he knows it. He makes it up to him by skating a perfect program dedicated to their love. That's how this couple works.
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>>151252301
Disagree considering Yuuri doesn't even fucking remember it makes it lesser than the 2015 GPF Gala.

The pair skate is more emotionally charged as it shows their affection as Stammi Vicino, a song about their relationship narratively, plays in the background and they are openly showing their affection for the other.
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>>151252357
What repercussions do you want exactly? Viktor to leave him? Viktor doesn't want to that's why he's upset.
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>>151252280

I didn't think it was possible to be this willfully dense, but whatever.

In the end Victor is happy with his piglet whether you all like it or not.
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>>151252376
Yuuri having even one brief moment of wonderment over whether he did the right thing or not would have been a great start. It's hard to say exactly how I would've done the scene because I'm not a director, but as a viewer I can definitely say the way it was done wasn't satisfactory to me. And no, that doesn't fucking mean I think Yuuri is evil or that I want Victor to beat him. Christ.
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>>151252376
>a perfect program
>loses

Yuurifags are so delusional holy shit I get it now.
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>>151251341
unnecessary hostility anon

>>151251474
woah now, come on. YoI is about love, don't be a salty sally.
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Remember the days of homo plateau?

I feel like I should be grateful because we were given much more than we'd ever expected, except going this far it feels like they should have committed to it and gone all the way. But they haven't and that seems their final stance: there but ambiguous enough for those who wish to dismiss it.

Am I a fool for hoping against hope that confirmation will come in season 2?
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If they were a het couple they wouldn't have this much shitty drama.
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>itt jealousy

I guess I can understand cuz Victors a top tier husbando but hes not only taken, he's wrapped around the piggys finger
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>>151252455
He had the highest score in the FP. The only reason he lost because he fucked up is SP.

Troll better.
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>>151252455
By less than a point, he beat Victor's WR.
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Interrupting this mess of a thread with a blessing from Lord Gearous
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>>151252486
Honestly, the whole finale was fucked up, and not only because of the ambiguity of Baldfat.
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>>151252432
Actually Victor saying he needs a moment and either leaving the room himself or asking Yuuri if he could leave for a little while would probably have been pretty okay. If Yuuri had been the one to leave we could've gotten him showing some sort of regret over how all that turned out, maybe a short moment where he sees a couple interacting sweetly together and aches a bit for it.

These are just suggestions, but yeah. As it was, it was just kinda
>I'M MAD ALSO GOODNIGHT
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>>151252486
I'm expecting them to be completely domestic off the rink next season, married in all but name.
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>>151252493
Thats false and you know it.
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>>151252528
There are problems with EP12, but there was no ambiguity with BaldFat.
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>>151252545
>all but name.
That's precisely my problem.
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>>151252402

Imagine them practicing it.

And there's no way all those face and neck caressings and lip brushing weren't spontaneous.
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>>151252402
I really liked how the background of the pair skate was all dark, not showing the audience. It conveyed this sense of intimacy like the rest of the world just disappeared around them.

I actually think it's hard to compare the two because we didn't actually get to see the banquet, just through pictures. But that pair skate really made me feel something, especially when it was the song that brought them together in the first place. And it provides heartwarming closure to that part in ep 1 where Yuuri gets depressed and says he won't be able to skate on the same ice as Victor, never been seen as his equal.
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King always takes the podium.
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>>151252533
There was more to their conversation since they decided to make their own decisions, time constraints at work.
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>>151251843
>Otabek is the kaworu of yoi
I knew he was an angel
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>>151252486
No, because I want it too. Unfortunately, I think our only window was this series, considering MAPPA didn't think it would be this popular. Now that it's making lots of money I doubt we'll get a full kiss or I love you.
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>>151252455

He lost because of his fucked up Eros. His YOI was perfect.

He may not have won the GP but he won the Victorbowl
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>>151252592
Go away Kubo.
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>>151252493
You're right. They would have more.
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>>151252581
We're at the half way mark since they're continuing, if they get married it won't be for a while.
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>>151252493
Nah, I've seen het couples with way worse. More usual for them, actually.
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>>151252606
I figured you'd bring up time constraints. In order to make my suggestion work, I would've done away with the useless intro explaining everybody's standings.
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>>151252586

Those looked like the perfect mix of tender and sensual
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>>151252586
>And there's no way all those face and neck caressings and lip brushing weren't spontaneous.
It's a gotdamn wonder how they are not fucking.
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>>151252486
I really don't know, and I don't want to hope for it. They keep pussyfooting around confirming anything. Somehow they're wearing wedding rings and obviously in love with each other yet we still don't even know if they're in an explicit relationship. It's strange, and I don't know what to expect as per usual with this show.
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>>151252402
He may not remember but their feelings weren't any less genuine for it. The EX was great but I prefer the delighted surprise and discovery in the Gala to the more performative EX.
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I just want to hear Victor read Baldfat doujins and go WOW, AMAZING!
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>>151252617
If he had skated a perfect Eros his score would have been close to Victor's from the previous year, Victor created a monster.
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>>151252665
>It's a gotdamn wonder how they are not fucking

that was taken care of after this
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Pair skate would've been lovely if not for the announcement of Victor returning. It completely soured the scene for me.

I can count on one hand the things I truly liked about this episode, and that makes me sad. I wanted so badly to love it.
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>>151252612
Who knows, they know people love Baldfat and the series spiked after the ep 7 kiss, so it's a big factor in the show's popularity. If they didn't decide on s2 I feel the ending would have been more conclusive.
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>>151252493
Anon-kun...
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>>151251843
I feel a little more justified in my love for Otabek than Kaworufags, since Otabek got more development in three episodes than Kaworu has in 19 years.
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>>151252524

Gearous is truly an angel
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>>151252726
>>151252612

Plus Doukyusei was really popular, there's not a goddamn reason you can't be explicit.
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>>151252712
Victor got himself some katsudon that night, he can't kiss a silver medal but he can eat a katsudon.
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>>151252739
No one doubts those two are a couple though, anon.

Fuck, KimiTodo started off excellent but there is so much MISUNDERSTANDING a shoujoshit can take.
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>>151252612
Most of the popularity is due to the homo though. It's sad they know fujos will be satisfied with hinting, but why don't they go the extra mile and make the fujos ecstatic?

MAPPA execs will certainly want to play it safe but want Sayo to be bold enough to say fuck it and go full homo. I want to believe ;_;

>>151252639
It's not the marriage I'm after just a confirmation that yes this is real romance.
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>>151252691
Viktor would either absolutely hate that someone drew porn of him and his pig or buy every doujin he could find. I'm not sure which.

>>151252724
>Pair skate would've been lovely if not for the announcement of Victor returning. It completely soured the scene for me
I feel the same way. I'm really concerned about the outlook for Viktor's development in the second season honestly.
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>>151252665

They def fucked after the GPF
Destroyed the hotel bed
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>>151252808
>but want Sayo to be bold enough to say fuck it and go full homo

In moments like this I miss Manglobe because they were truly a studio that didn't give a fuck if someone got offended and worked with whatever themes and settings they wanted

(Kurata is a shitter)
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>>151252829
First episode better be them hitting us with a "Victor announces his comeback...but wait, the rules?!"
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>>151252829

Neither, but he would be pleased because they are both shows off that love flaunting their love at any chance they get so the fact that other people is getting off on them probably gets them going
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>>151252805
They weren't actually a couple for most of it though.
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>>151252884
>...but wait, the rules?!"
Kek I want this to be the second season's Yuuko confession

I'm on board with him returning as long as this develops the Baldfat relationship though.
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>>151252724
Yeah, I hope that gets a soft retcon where Victor realizes "oops, trying to be a competitive skater when you're pushing 30 is really fucking hard, and being a coach on top of that is even harder" and has to decide which he wants to do.
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>>151252945
This is the only fucking way to salvage this whole thing. Please KuboYama, be fucking realistic. That was YoI's greatest strength and the thing that got pro skaters into it in the first place.
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What I've just come to learn is that Yuuri's the real hetfag of the show, and Victor is /a/ trying to convince him that he's a homo and everything has been homosexual this entire time.
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>>151252805
It took them over 70 chapters to even kiss and then it went back to MISUNDERSTANDINGS.
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If MAPPA is willing to pander to fujos by putting Victor back on Ice they should also pander by making Baldfat indisputably canon.
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>>151252937
The only thing about Viktor coming back that I kind of like is that he might steal Yuuri's love theme, and we'll get to see Viktor's pure maiden love in his skating.
>>151252945
Honestly, it needs to be one or the other. Why ruin a series that's been true and respectful to the sport for fanservice? It's really disappointing.
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>>151253004
/a/ is winning.
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I don't think the hotel room scene should be used to argue Piggy is Literally Hitler, and I also think people are overestimating the writing if they blame his anxiety or depression.

This episode shows that Kubo completely lost sight of the characterization in their rush to make it open ended for S2. It was just a total failure to keep them acting consistent, logical or in a way that will further their development. I have zero faith in her consciously writing his reaction as a result of mental illness, she just hasn't shown that sort of wisdom in her writing for this episode. I think it should just be totally ignored as a momentary lapse in judgement and we can go on loving Piggy and assuming he loves Victor as much as he has otherwise demonstrated.
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>>151253011
The nips are happy with what they have already, though. I'm glad for them, but I wish they wanted more as much as we do.
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>>151253004
>Yuuri
>hetfag
>had a idolshit shrine of Victor all over his walls since he was 11-12.
>named his dog after him
>hump his leg, asking to be his coach which started Victor's journey to get in between dem thighs and DAT ASS
Anon.
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>>151252339
Where are the writeanons? We need this
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>>151253025
>>151252983
>>151252945
Don't worry, he'll give a beautiful first performance based on this! It'll all be daijoubu once this occurs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Joz-XaqU4
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>>151253077
But homo would unquestionably make them HAPPIER.

MAPPA should give and extra-special thank you to the people who gave them their first runaway success, the homofags.
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>>151253080
Hes repressed like /a/
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>>151253133
MAPPA loves man-ass. Just give in. Join the fujos.
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>>151253080
>had a idolshit shrine of Victor all over his walls since he was 11-12
And he still used his "VICTOR YOU ARE MY IDOL" emotions to no-homo Victor back into skating.
>named his dog after him
Check above.
>hump his leg, asking to be his coach which started Victor's journey to get in between dem thighs and DAT ASS
Doesn't even remember that.
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>>151253052

>his thigh is pressed on my dick his thigh is pressed on my dick his thigh is pressed on my dick his thigh is pressed on my dick his thigh is pressed on my dick PLEASE DON'T HAVE AN ERECTION NOW
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>>151253150
The hair touch pisses me off so fucking much.
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>>151253056
I wonder if they'll fix this in BDs. Sometimes it happens, it's not jut the animation that gets touched up. They could make the ep flow just a little bit better.
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>>151253150
Those tears bouncing off his eyelashes totally take me out of this scene desu.
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>>151253194

New episode or extended final episode happened before with a lot of anime and I hope YoI is the case.
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>>151253150
Those fucking shoujo tears holy shit Victor is a godess.
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>>151253150
I feel like this entire scene was an excuse to animate Viktor crying.
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>>151253245
Not gonna complain, maiden Victor is a miracle of the universe.
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>>151253185
I feel like it was a misguided attempt at a call back to the hair poking, since once again Yuuri is seeing Victor in a more human, flawed light. But it's fucking regression, he should already know that Victor isn't some god and should not be surprised that he can cry.
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>>151253243
>this art
Now I am depressed, fuck.
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>>151253305
I think we were supposed to take it as Yuuri being so shocked he's acting like an idiot, but it really didn't come off that way.
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>>151253305
I feel exactly the same.
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I think a part of why he's so calm in the face of Victor's tears isn't just shock+autism but also because he's convinced he's right and doing this for Victor's own good even if it hurts him a bit.
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>>151253366
It also kind of seems like he wants to be the bad guy so that Viktor won't have any guilt over it. Otherwise him saying 'Yeah I'm that selfish' doesn't make any sense.
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>>151253321
For the gwailos. Reminder that Yuuri's been breaking his heart since the beginning.
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How far he came.
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>>151253084
>Fairy hates getting drunk because he hates the idea of losing control (in b4 "does Russia have a drinking culture")
>Begrudgingly goes with Otabek to a rave
>Girls are all over Otabek because bitches love Otabek
>They start doing jello shots off of him while Fairy sulks in the corner
>"EEEEEE, get your cute friend over here, have him do one!"
>Fairy gets jostled over to a shirtless Otabek by a group of girls chanting "SHOT SHOT SHOT"
>Otabek is ever the protector: "do you want to do the shot, or not"
>Stares at the jello balanced precariously on Otabek's pec
>Wordlessly and blushing furiously, Fairy presses his mouth against Otabek's chest and takes the shot, and the crowd goes wild
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>>151253505
You're a blessing
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I feel like we need one more ep. That shit was so unsatisfying.
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>>151253459
I miss Chad Bro, wish he had more screentime
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>>151253512
Hot
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>>151253552
Cliffhanger finales are the devil.
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>>151253552
We're getting another season.
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>>151253150
Why were you crying :[?
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>>151253175
He just represses out of fear of rejection and shyness.
All he needs to do is channel that confidence, like his eros before ep11, off the ice. Though I feel like Victor is might actually be getting somewhere finally >>151253052
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They really reworked this episode to sequelbait.
>force unnecessary drama in the relationship to build of in season 2
>There's a chance Victor might come back for skating
>There's a chance Victor might coach Fairy too
And if they wanted season 2 so badly, what the fuck was the point of letting Fairy win the gold medal? It makes 0 sense for that character to achieve the most success he can. Where does that character even go from here? What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>151253558
Will all of the Hasetsu crowd be replaced by russian bootlegs of themselves?
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>>151253601
Thingken of skate :,(
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>>151253395
Yeah, I wish they'd done more on that angle because it makes sense for him to play hardass. He says this ep that his concern was not to let Victor decay, in 11 what really pushed him to tell Victor that night was Victor looking at the other skaters, to Piggy who still wants to keep skating despite it all, this was a selfless sacrifice.
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>>151253395
What pisses me off about the scene is that it seems like Yuri is basing the whole conversation on an assumption that Victor has always wanted to return to skating, which, as far as we know, is a purely a product of Yuri's own anxiety-riddled brain. I feel like Yuri is misunderstanding Victor's feelings, but instead of correcting Yuri's one-sided assumptions, the episode validates them by having Victor decide to skate again.

Does Victor even want to return to skating? After watching ep 12, I still have no idea. Him chasing down Yakov seemed like a spur of the moment thing--more like he was trying to figure out what to do with himself now that Yuri wasn't skating anymore.
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>>151249583
I thought this was the sweetest part. Phichit was nothing but good times, friendship, and lewd photos.
I want him to get his fabulous ice show, he deserves it.
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>>151253617
Victor needs to drive him into a corner if he wants to get anywhere with him, or get him a little drunk.
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>>151253631
>And if they wanted season 2 so badly, what the fuck was the point of letting Fairy win the gold medal
Because Pig is the MC and he's the one who should keep striving for the goal. They can insert Fairy problems via puberty, since there is foreshadowing for it.
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>>151253687
People get on Victor about not being assertive with his feelings but Yuuri is just as bad for never asking him goddamn anything. He appreciates Victor meeting him halfway and then never makes the attempt to do the same for Victor. It's a realistic flaw but no less annoying or frustrating to behold.
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>>151253687
I think him deciding to go back to skating would be what he would give Yuuri.
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I bet Yuuri got wasted at this year's banquet and suggested to Victor they move in together in Russia.
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>>151253687
This would fun drama if only KuboSayo decide to go with it for season 2.

Piggy needs to learn to be the one to reach out to Victor's feelings, this is a good stepping stone if they want to use it.
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>>151253512
>Otabek is ever the protector: "do you want to do the shot, or not"

First thing to make me smile all day after the letdown that was this finale. Thank you anon
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>>151253665
But it's still selfish. Yuri doesn't ask Victor what Victor wants. Yuri selfishly wants Victor to return to the ice because he's Yuri's idol.
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>>151253505

You're my rabu and raifu, anon.
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>>151253791
Phichit best
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>>151253707
I want more Cup of China Gang shenanigans, they were comfy as fuck
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>>151253687
>which, as far as we know, is a purely a product of Yuri's own anxiety-riddled brain
I would agree with that until the episode decided to suddenly force Viktor wanting to take his records back and acting like it was his plan to go back to skating the whole time. I don't buy at all the idea that he's skating for Yuri's sake either. He loves him, but he's not that self-sacrificing.

As far as the Yakov thing, it seemed pretty clear that he did that because he wanted to motivate Yurio, whether it was to benefit himself via giving Yuri a push in the right direction or genuine interest in Yurio performing well, I don't know.
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>>151253512
Oh man, drunk Fairy would be fucking terrifying. Or maybe he'd end up being one of those really happy drunks?
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>>151252524

Bless Gearous, he's too good for this world.

>>151252592

Fuck off, JJ.
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>>151253790
There better be an OVA for the banquet, you know Victor was dying to get Yuuri drunk again.
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>>151253794
They could. Didn't someone on the team say this series had actually somewhat been about Victor's development? If that was the case for this season, they could do more Yuuri development in the second.
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>>151253800

Piggy has thought that his time with Victor was limited since episode 4.
He was selfish but he thought he was wasting Victors time and talent.
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>>151253724
>Because Pig is the MC and he's the one who should keep striving for the goal.
Yeah but they could've done that by letting anyone else win. Here's what should've happened, someone (probably Chris) wins. Fairy gets second by beating Piggy by few points. That way Fairy can see he still isn't as good as Victor and Pig still competes because muh promise.
The only logical character development for Fairy is to become more obnoxious than he already is because of ego, think he's the best and they lose and learn a life lesson. But considering Kubo is all the way up in Fairy's ass, I doubt that happens.
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>>151249583
By the end, I cared the most about Phichit
Not Pig, not Fairy
Fucking Phichit, who gave zero shits about being sixth
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>>151253930
Phichit is just trying hard and having a good time.

Phichit on Ice for S2.
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>>151253822
Cup of China was the best of times. It'd be (or likely will be) nice to see everyone back for NEXT LEVEL.
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>>151253738
I feel like Yuri still, at heart, sees Victor as a god and not a human. For all the blushing and sweating and stammering we've seen Piggy do in this series, how is he so cool about Victor bursting into tears right in front of him? Maybe that is why Yuri is so shocked to see Victor cry; in his eyes Victor is still perfect and has no problems or worries.
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>everyone hates pig

It's ok I guess. He has plenty of love in-universe
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>>151253884
Wait, Gearous is a dude?? What??
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>>151253763
That's a good point, anon, but it makes me kind of sad. Is Victor returning to skating just so he can stay with Yuri?
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>>151253989
He'll always have my love

>>151253998
Yep
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>>151253989
I like Pig but he makes me mad sometimes.
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>>151253951
Wherein we spend 30% of the off ice time watching Phichit taking selfies and generally being on his phone or with his hamsters
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>>151253799
Beku is a gentleman who would never make his Fairy do something he was uncomfortable with

>>151253867
I feel like he'd be a really blissed out and kind of slutty drunk, sort of like Victor. All that repression has to vent itself somewhere
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>>151253791
He's so cute. One of the only redeeming parts of this episode was his inner monologue.
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>>151253989
I wonder how much that asshole got destroyed whenever he got drunk in Detroit and went home with all sorts of daddies.
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>>151253982
Stop over thinking that retarded piece of drama you fucking faggots. It was a bullshit piece of writing, nothing more.
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>>151253989
I still love Piggy and I hope other people don't drop him because Kubo went full retard and wrote a shit, nonsensical scene that disregards all his development.

Honestly I hope there are no husbando wars or hating on characters based on this episode, they did all our boys wrong in some way or another. Except JJ, he got too much.
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>>151254035
>wasted Fairy straddling Otabek's lap and geting stupid flirty with him
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>>151253930
>>151253951
Agreed on both counts. Phichit was just a fun, sweet kid who wanted everyone else to have fun and show his homeland the greatness of ice skating and his love for the sport and his country. Worked hard, won hearts, made history.
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>>151253989

I love the pig. He's an adorable bundle of contradictions with a wonderful meaty ass. I want to socialize him so he treats Vitya properly, though.
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>>151254014
Well he would have still been with him since Yuuri decided not to retire. He had wanted to give Yuuri something in episode 11 because of all that Yuuri had given him, I guess this is his answer.
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>>151254060
>>151254114
I burst out laughing at his imaginary ice show
I love him
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>>151253982
Nah, he kind of switches between both. There are times, like in ep7, he sees how flawed Victor is, but there's still some other things that intrigue him about Victor, as his idol. I think it's realistic of him and their relationship honestly.

I really fucking wish there'd stop being so much butthurt over this one minor scene though. Shitty writing or not, they got over it.
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>>151254078
They can't possibly deal with the idea of their favorite fag being a shit head.
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>>151253930
>>151253951
Phichit is genuinely one of the best boys in the series. So good-natured, so sweet, just a fantastic boy all around.
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Pair skating almost saved the final
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At least anons who listened to Welcome to the Madness weren't actually spoiled, given it wasn't even used in the show.
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>>151254185
Agreed. I almost feel bad for always talking about what a slut he is and suggesting that he seduces old Italian men.
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>people saying baldfat wasn't left ambiguous
>saying the shit ending isn't shit because of a season 2

If anything I'm expecting season 2 to ruin any appeal BaldFat had as a couple in the early episodes.
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>>151253800
Yes. which brings us to >>151253794

Piggy is retarded because he didn't ask about it but it's still progress for someone so completely closed off as him. He's trying to do something for others for a change. This is why this ep is shit as a finale but acceptable as a midway point, if these problems are acknowledged, built on, and resolved. They're moving to a new stage in Russia but characters are still fucking up and growing.

Season one is Baldfat!!! on SCTM, lonely fucks finding someone and wanting them to stay. There was always the fear that this wouldn't last from Pig and Bald turned out to be a ronery lost man.

Now that it's established they won't part, season 2 will be the next level of relationship building where they learn to stop being fuckwits and understand each other.

At this point it's wishful thinking, but I want to believe.
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>>151254014
It's not that far off from Yuuri wanting to skate to show his love for Viktor this season. He loves being able to express his love with something else he loves. I imagine it would be much the same for Viktor.
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>>151253823
One can definitely make a case for Victor wanting to return to skating, ever since he smirked through that reporter asking if we wanted to compete against Yuri. His interest in the other skaters can also be interpreted as him wanted to get back in the game. The real issue is that Yuri never fucking asks, like >>151253738 said, and that we never have a moment that makes us believe that's the right interpretation--notice he never says it in any internal monologue, and isn't even direct about it to Yuri at the kiss and cry.
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>>151254234
There is nothing wrong with seducing old italian men.
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>>151253867
>Oh man, drunk Fairy would be fucking terrifying. Or maybe he'd end up being one of those really happy drunks?
I can see him either going one of two ways:
1) Super lovey huggy-feely cuddly drunk
2) Wants to talk trash and fight drunk

I'm not sure which one I'd want to see more
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>>151254184
It's not even favourite character fucking up thing, it's just plain retarded writing. Kubo a shit.
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>>151254024
>>151253989
Piggy turns me the FUCK on

I want this fluid druid to rail me all night every night for the rest of my nights
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>>151254185

He's such a sweetheart. I hope the people who insinuated that he pleased old men for money or corrupted Yuuri rethink their opinions of him.
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>>151253908
Sadly this is exactly what I was hoping would get cleared up in the finale. Instead I feel like ep 12 further obfuscated the whole issue.
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>>151254234
That time an anon pointed out that Phichit has literally never done a single lewd thing in this series fucked me up

I don't know why we call him a slut other than him being Thai and having the voice of a total semen demon
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>>151254276
Same. Thank god for his stamina, he can have me once he's worn Victor out.
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>>151254168
Yuri only decided not to retire after he knew Victor would continue to skate though.
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>>151254217
I'm choosing to ignore the rest of the episode and just be happy about the pair skating instead.
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Stammi Vicino comparison

https://twitter.com/knpp86/status/811666193626992640
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>>151254276

Knowing he's capable of being a 10/10 semen demon but hides his true nature under layers of anxiety, shyness, and an introverted nature really does things to me. If Victor decided he doesn't want him I would gladly take him in and dote on him every day.
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>>151254262
Agreed with all of this completely.
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>>151254317
You have to admit this is pretty lewd. But maybe China is just a bad influence on him and that's why they take slutty selfies together.

I think people just assumed he's a Thai ladyboy in his spare time.
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>>151254291
>>151254317
Phichit is a pure and sweet kid. All he wants is to be happy and to make everyone else happy.
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I would like to have faith in season 2 handling the BaldFat relationship better, but I don't even think Kubo thinks the flaws are intended flaws. I almost don't even want another season because if this episode was an indication, the drama they'd be forced into would just ruin any appeal of BaldFat to me.
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>>151254403
Honestly Guanghong is the slutty one here, Phichit actually looks totally normal aside from the strangely shiny lips
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>>151254363
Yurio had a big hand it keeping Yuuri from retiring but now I'm thinking Victor knew what he was doing in letting Yuuri know he'd be going back.
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>>151254291

>phichit corrupting Yuuri

Phichit is pure, he probably spent the whole time in Detroit peeling that slut piglet off the nearest available BBC.
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>>151254458
Oh my god delete this NOW
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Piggy might have dome some dumb things but I still like him. I like all the boys, everyone is a best!
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>>151254390

Same Anon. Sadly Victor is too smart to give up this prime piece of ass, even if he is a shit head.
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>>151254224
But it means that a song that was in the show, like Georgi's short program, didn't make it onto the CD. I'm miffed about that.
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>/yoi/ finally realizes the only reason anyone called Phichit a slut is because he's delicious brown and ladyboys

I don't know why this is making me laugh so much but it is
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>>151254251
I'll have to concede that, anon. Valid point.
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>>151254535
>dat "oh shit I forgot about him" tier Georgi doodle
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>>151254224
Speaking of that I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do now

Do I have to wait 6 months before I can listen to it if they're going to make it a BD-only scene
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>>151254535
They are all the best but some are more best than others: Emil, Chris, Otabek, Georgi
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I missed brutal Victor.
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>>151254429

I have faith that they saw the rush job, didn't like it, and will avoid it in the future. The series really feels like it needed one more episode to really be a 10/10 show.

Wishlist for S2:
- Domestic BaldFat
- Victor coaching OR skating (not both)
- Resolution of Bald and Fat's inability to fucking communicate
- Yurio growing up and adjusting to his new proportions
- Beka being a good supportive friend
- more of the cast we saw this season
- Georgi in TRUE LOVE
- Another fucking amazing OST
- "Daisuki/Aishiteru" and/or unobstructed on-screen kissu

I guess there's a lot, but this season really spoiled us. I want everything and more.
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>>151254629
It was so ooc though. It's like Kubo saw that Johnny didn't like him.
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But who was wine glass?
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>>151254429
Most of this was because of them not anticipating its popularity and then deciding on a s2 after it in the first place. Hopefully they'll know how to plan it out better next time.
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>>151254535
>when you see it
Kek.
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>>151254535
I'm not on speaking terms with episode 12 Yuuri but he's not an actual character, just some kind of egregious flicker in the writing that somehow made it to the final draft. The real Yuuri is fine. All boys are best boys. Hooray.
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>>151254673
Yuri's new coach. See him next level.
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BaldFat will be happy in next season, r-right?
They will not ruin their relationships? ;_;
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>>151254611
That's the face I'd be making if I had to wear that ridiculous hat and outfit
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>>151254294
Yuri has always been the one putting an arbitrary limit on their time together. Maybe this is why ep 12 didn't feel like a climactic moment for their relationship; real progress would have been for Yuri to understand that Victor is with him because he wants to be by his side and nowhere else. Victor has tried to coyly say this so many times ("wow, sounds like a proposal") and Yuri just doesn't fucking get it. And at the end of this episode, he still doesn't.
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>>151254712
Off rink they'll be in domestic bliss spoiling Makkachin rotten.
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>>151254712

They will be just fine, Anon. They might have a few tiffs here and there as they get used to living together but they'll be fine.
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>>151254629
I completely hated that entire scene. Out of character as fuck.

Chris' jealousy, if it can even be called that, was never so fucking petty. It was more of a driven, sportsmanlike type of envy. This was some bitch wearing his face.
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Man I see a lot of myself in Victor with how this all ended up. At least the sperg he loved didn't kill himself in the end for feeling so inadequate and self-deprecating.
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>>151254535
Except for JJ
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>>151254629
The animation was really good this episode. Not only was Chris' expression done really well, I love the movement of the beads on his costume giving weight to the movement he's currently doing.
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>>151254629
it's cute but I still don't understand why Chris reacted like this in this scene. It's like they got him confused with Yurio.
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Victor will die in the second half for sure.
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>>151254712
I was disappointed in this ep in some respects but I never saw anything ruined between them in their relationship. People are being really dramatic here. They both have issues, but they'll get through it.
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>>151254745
Viktor is always the one to base the progress of their relationship on Yuuri's skating success, though. They're both idiots who can't into a relationship.
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>>151254686
You mean when you don't see it. fuck jj
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>>151254458
Phichit is pure
That's why he has a natural and relaxed attitude towards sex unlike a certain inhibited Italiano.
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>>151254758
Oh

Well then
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>>151254429
It was alright until the 12th, which I am willing to attribute to second season panic rush. The amount of animators and storyboarders is a suspicious hint that, unlike a lot of finales this one was clearly not prepared in advance.

Now Kubo needs to take her experience with this and deliver a better prepared second season with Sayo.
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>>151254712
What relationship?
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>>151254704
This guy knows what he's talking about.

Have the Yuuri Victor fell in love with, not some doppleganger who wandered into the wrong hotel room and tried to defame Piggy's good name.
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>>151254650
This face says "do you know all the fucking emotional agony you've put me through in last few days you insensitive prick"
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>>151254853
Yuuri sold his soul to beat the waruado rekuado. This was foreshadowed in episode 4.
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>>151254774
Who? Never heard of that guy. He isn't in the picture.
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>>151254826
Rather, the writing of the show uses skating as a pretense so they can get away with not committing to making it a real relationship. The kiss was just pure fanservice, Kubo's comments prove it.
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>>151254794
>>151254669

Chris is pretty mature and down-to-earth but even the most rational of men have moments of pettiness. Might be a good Q&A question though: "Why did Chris seem so pissed during his last FS? Did he smell the semen on Victor or something?"
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>>151254893
Anon, the other skaters and their romantic relationships/feelings are framed through skating/expressed on the ice as well. It's the way the show is.
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I actually thought Chris was one of the better handled characters. He says himself that he was pretending to be okay with it, so it makes sense if we haven't really saw it previously. We did see him get a bit down about his age last episode, so he knows his time is limited.

We all thought it was a possibility, which is why we keep laughing at the fact that everyone got BTFO by Victor for years and then continued to be BTFO by skaters he choreographed for and coached. It must really suck for them.
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>>151254712
Baldfat needs a deeper understanding of each other. They're cute but beed to work on communicating, may SayoKubo deliver.
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>>151254853
This is all some sort of Murakami novel where we're meant to ask, which is the real Yuuri? What makes a true Yuuri?
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>>151254948
It's really something that they've spent everyday together for 8 months, and they're still so fucking hopeless at figuring each other out.
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>>151254948
this ship is shit. fujos need taste.
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>>151254953
This is actually the series we expected Mayoiga to be, and the episode was just a bunch of skinwalkers pretending to be the characters.
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>>151254551
It didn't help that he uploads saucy pictures of his friends on Insta. He's a definite Instagram whore though. All for the likes.
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>>151255008
It was good for 10 episodes but I'm effectively done with it. They can't unfuck it in S2.
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>>151254977
Can't be helped desu. They've both been isolated for too long by brains problems and autistic devotion to a sport and can't into relationships.
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>>151255008
>fujos
>taste
Asking for the impossible
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Maybe Yuuri was so inspired by Georgi that he's trying to recreate his inspiration by making Viktor leave him in order to reinvent himself with a new persona.
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>Yottsun will never chop some sense into Yuuri

I hate it
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>>151255057
>Georgi becomes a witch
>Yuuri becomes a bitch

Pottery
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>>151254946
Victor's going to wind up with a bunch of skaters asking him to choreograph for them, it all comes down to the skater's talent though.
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>>151254977
It's simple. Yuuri represses, he pushes people away out of shyness, anxiety, and general fear of intimacy. He told this to Victor in the ep 4 beach scene.
After being rejected by Yuuri, Victor began to hold back and be more gentlemanly and patient with him. So as not to scare off Yuuri.
I liked how it showed Yuuri became more comfortable around Victor and his physical closeness like all the hugs and shit, so they did make some progress in that regard at least.

I thought the "meeting me halfway" thing was cute but it's practically come to a point it's holding them and their relationship back. Sometimes you do need to be direct about what you want.
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Despite all the negativity let's talk about what this show did right

>Minimal drama and BL tropes
>Accurate protrayal of anxiety issues
>Extremely researched about the sport itself
>10/10 voice acting
>11/10 OST
>Pole dancing
>An interesting twist
>Adult characters acting like adults (even if they are pretty autistic)
>Most of the side characters are enjoyable even with minimal screentime
>Modern elements make the setting feel realistic like current fashion trends, mannerisms, and social media playing a large part of the story
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>>151255122
>what this show did right
Victor
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>>151255074
>JJ will never be executed for his undeserved medal
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>>151255122
>minimal drama
>ignoring the forced drama we had to sit through and will have to shit through in season 2 regarding baldfat
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>>151255096
Say what you will about Piggy, but I for one would love to see yandere-themed Yuuri programs.
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>>151255118
I'm hoping KuboSayo will make clear it's only the first step. Next season they'll progress.
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>>151255122
What I'm trying to tell myself is that 11 solid episodes out of 12 is fucking amazing for an anime. Sure, 12 was pretty much penned by the anus of Satan himself, but 11 out of 12 is not bad by any stretch of the imagination.
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>>151255122
I've talked a lot about what I loved as it aired, I'm not in the mood now but I do want to mention how fucking great the OST is. I love it even more after listening to it as a full album. It's so uncohesive thanks to the nature of the series but that just makes it even better, there's so much variety. Otabek's FS is my current favourite song.
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>>151249647
Chris had some cute faces this episode
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>>151255240
How wet was Minako's panties when she gave him the flower crown.

It's kinda funny in a way since Chris is like half her age.
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>>151255290
I really love her fangirling for him, it's adorable
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>>151255173
I wonder what his theme will be for next season.
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>>151249837
But he looks in the mirror and the KING smiles back on him...what more do you want?

Frig off fake-JJgirls, you're unneeded
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>>151255173

>"I said you could go back to skating, Victor. I said you could stop holding yourself back for my sake. I never said you could love other people!"
>"I don't care that they're 'just' fans. Look only at me. Never leave me. I'm all you need, I'm the only one who knows who you really are."
>"If you talk to them without me again, I'll make sure you can't skate any more. Okay? Just stay with me, Victor. You're my idol, my god, my everything. Never leave."
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>>151255168
I feel like one of the few who thinks it wasn't really that forced. It was built up practically every single episode, and it's part of their relationship progress even if it's frustrating.
I feel like people are upset because they wanted it to be full-on comfy but Baldfat was never perfect because they were never perfect, flawless characters. And that's fine with me I guess. Them having smooth sailing 100% of the time might have been nice but still not realistic. This was the only major drama, anyway.

What was forced was Victor's sudden "comeback" and muddled conclusion regarded his career.
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>>151255290
Minako is a certified cougar.
>>151255313
I'd kind of like to see him go back to Agape themed things honestly. It used to be his specialty, and now that he's grown as a skater, I wonder if he could do even better with it.

I'm also one of the anons hoping he'll work with Lilya, though, and she's all about reinventing yourself so maybe we'll get another new Yuuri.
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>>151255315
Fuck off Kubo.
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>>151254673
Emil
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>>151254535
DELET ThIS!
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>>151255365

I'm hoping it was just a bad sub job. He can't seriously be coaching and skating, not if the show wants to maintain its credibility among professionals. Also I know he's the god of fagskate but he's only human. Doing his own routines and coaching Piggy would take way too much time; he'd end up half-assing both.
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>>151254673
Grandpa without his hat on.
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>>151255432
Who's this faggot?
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>>151255451
I'm hoping it's just a fakeout to get s2 hype up since nips desperately want him to skate again.
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>>151255432
>but I sucked them so good
>couldn't they at least given me a 90?
>is it because I didn't swallow?
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>>151250209
>anons thought fairy was a cunt for no reason
>he was trying to motivate fairy in his own way this whole time
how does it feel to be this wrong?
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>>151254810
Victor has about as high as chance of dying as any of the skaters forsaking their original goal and going full TANOSHII.
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>>151255377
I'd like that, a beautiful Yuuri would be great. His ballet background would help.
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>>151255459

A boytoy who sucked cock and bribed judges to earn 3rd place.
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>>151255365
I don't mind that they're flawed and things weren't fully resolved, but they just sort of skimmed over it. The way they ended the hotel scene was absurd, dismissing an important conversation as 'we'll talk about it later' and then never really doing it is garbage writing.

I actually think that if they were real people, their personalities would be pretty sound. Humans are pretty unpredictable and hard to understand, they don't solve everything neatly, they ignore issues etc. But this is fiction and they needed to be a lot more clear about everything, I'm confused as to whether most of their 'flaws' are even intended or not. Are we supposed to think negatively of Yuuri when he responds to Victor crying like that? Is the lack of communication between them an actual issue in the storyline, or do they just lack the time to write it in?
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>>151255451
On top of everything else, one of the dumbest things about it is that a major part of Yuuri's development was figuring out that Viktor was just a normal person, but the show keeps enforcing that he is actually a near perfect superhuman.
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>>151255494
>Four Continents is gonna be so fun
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>>151255365
This. I don't get people saying that Yuuri was surprised that Victor could cry. Rewatching that scene, Yuuri was surprised that Victor was crying about Yuuri wanting to end everything at the GPF even though that was Victor's intial offering.
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>>151255501
Agreed with all of this, the hotel scene was just fucked on so many levels. I don't know how anyone is defending it. It basically went

>You're an asshole wow
>And you have tear ducts, damn
>ok goodnight I guess we'll talk about it later
>k shoots
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>>151255451
Chances are Victor will probably use Yakov as a cover, that he's Yuuri's coach on paper and the only reason Yakov would agree to it if Victor officially work under Yakov again.
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>>151255459
best boy JJ of course
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Denis Ten BTFO
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>>151255638

Seems shady as fuck. But that would be very Russian.
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>>151255638
That still doesn't help with the near impossible logistics of it actually working out even behind the scenes.
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>>151255650
He definitely knows the scores didn't make any sense.
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>>151250738
>everyone's programs next year are based of a stage of grief
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>>151255638
I feel like the real figure skaters who watch the show would be very turned off by that.. It seems very unsportsmanlike and un-japanese too. I have no idea what to expect from Kubo's wild ride.
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>>151255650
>otabek loses cause denis pushed yuzu once
>jj wins cause muh miyano

Bringing real life into anime was a mistake.
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>>151255726
Someone assign them to a stage of grief, I'm shit at this.
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>>151249583

I like how the other skaters are involved but not JJ.
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>>151255797
Well Yuuri is denial. That one's easy.
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>>151255797

There are five, so I'm going to kind of wing it.

Denial and Isolation: Yuuri

Anger: Yurio

Bargaining: JJ

Depression: Victor

Acceptance: Pichit
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Reminder that BaldFat is irredeemable as a relationship due to hack writing.
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>>151255797
>Denial- Yuuri
>Anger-Yurio
>Bargaining- JJ
>Depression-Chris
>Acceptance-Otabek

Meanwhile Viktor is just happily skating about being seduced by a drunk pig and falling in love, none-the-wiser to everyone else's suffering.
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>>151255555
I think this is why everyone keeps harping on this scene. It was more than a disagreement about retiring/returning that could be resolved by making a decision about those things. It's that the WAY the conversation happened was hurtful, and resolving the skating stuff doesn't resolve Yuri's callousness in that moment.
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>>151255871
I won't let the last two episode ruin the magic of a pure maiden(male) falling in love with a drunken succubus(male) with split personalities.
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>>151255898
Perfect
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I just feel kind of crushed by this finale, anons. I feel like the ending of the show should have brought Victor and Yuri closer together, but instead it seems like they took a step back in terms of understanding each other's feelings and motivations.
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So how long until some of you anons accept and move on? We're talking a several month wait for potential S2. Are you guys going to be like the Freefags during their interval?
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>>151255638
That would be such a fucking insult to the real skaters who admired the show's authenticity. And it'd just be stupid in general, but you know.
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>>151256055
It'll be fine once the new season comes.
There should be something for everyone.
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>>151255650
I really want Denis to heal up so him and Mado-chan can geek out on the ice together next year

One thing this show has done right is get me invested in real life skaters beyond the Olympics
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>>151256032

They side-stepped. They're going to do what they love still, but there's new context. They didn't advance or fall back, they're the same turbo-autists we've come to know. It's basically a status-quo ending as far as their relationship goes.
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>>151255501
I kind of get what they were trying to do the more I think about it. Yuuri had the time to decide he was retiring and mentally accept that decision, and probably never told Victor. He was also operating under the assumption that Victor was only staying as his coach until after the GPF. He assumed Victor thought that too, and that Victor wanted to go back to skating this whole time. So again with the whole bad communication problem the two tend to have sometimes. So when Yuuri dropped the bomb on Victor in the hotel, the whole mental prep he had done accepting his retirement plus whatever level of autism he has led to him mishandling and not reacting to Victor's anger in a healthy way. There was obviously moer of that conversation we didn't see but it was concluded as 'we'll make our own decisions after the GPF.' Which kind of fits with how YoI tends to use the skates to express emotions and resolve conflicts. Yuri's free skate and then silver medal conversation was the resolution to their hotel bullshit.
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>>151256115
What show is this?
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>>151256180
Blue Exorcist
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>>151256115
Yeah I know what I'm looking forward too next season. Miyano is in this as some spoilt prince so he can hated again.
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>>151256159
How can he assume Victor is just waiting to go back to skating after the GPF after "I hope you never retire"? That goes beyond autism.
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Next GPF banquet is in Amsterdam and Yuuri discovers the wonders of weed.
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>>151256235
Yuri saw Victor watching the short programs at the GPF and figured that Victor missed the ice.
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>>151256159
What I don't understand now that I think more about it is how Yuri's SP plays into this finale. Like you say, YOI uses the skater's programs to work out issues or bring them to the surface. It wasn't really clear why Yuri flunked his SP, and combined with his reaction to Victor watching the other skaters, I thought he'd need to have a big realization to work past whatever was holding him back in ep 11. But I'm not sure that happened? Nor did he have any kind of cathartic release like in ep 7, because we didn't see the rest of their fight. So what the hell happened with Eros?
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>>151256411
The only release happening was when their fight didn't get resolved because they fucked instead.
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>>151255432
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>>151256411
During his GPF Eros he only thought about winning and his score. There was no Eros feeling or thinking about his love for Victor. That's why his face was more of a sneer and we didn't get a sexy look shot at Victor or anything. His SP was a fuck up cause he lost sight of his theme: love. His free skate was a resolution to that.
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>>151256411
Eros is about him seducing Victor, he was too focused on winning and not turning Victor on.
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>>151256493
Someone needs to add Otabek in the background with a barb-wire wrapped bat coming at JJ
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JJ is a good boy, stop hating him.
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