Hakomari licensed

>>>/biz/
Fuck off yen press shills, your translations are garbage and your toiletpaper releases are shit quality.

We did it lads

>Yen Press and their shitty localization
Thank God the LN is fully translated already.

Fuck, guess I gotta read it now before B-T takes it down.

>>151020882
This

I stopped at vol5, gotta finish it fast

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Huh, an old novel by Mikage got republished with art by ABe. Looks like he rewrote it or something.

>>151021388
Despera never

God damn it im still not healed after the black pit that was vol 5. Now i have to rush to finish the series and try not to kill myself from despair in the process

>>151021388
What is it about? The databases don't really specify anything.

>>151020442
>Garbage is licensed
so?

>>151020442
I'll just download it for free anyways, thanks jewpress.

If 200 Western people buy it it will top the japanese sales.

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>>151020669
>>151020882
Is it completed at vol7?

>yen press
shitty choice
vertical should have got it

What is Mikage writing at the moment? Didn't he want to write an actual novel this time?

>>151020511
>your toiletpaper releases are shit
It's like pottery.

>>151022216
He wrote an idol (killer game) novel that was released by a publisher that publishes "light novels for a mature audience" (not in a lewd sense).

After that he rewrote his debut title, Boku-ra wa Doko ni mo Hirakanai. At the moment, he is probably working on a novel for the Kodansha Taiga label.

It's amazing how many niche titles we're seeing brought over in the western market this decade, don't you think? Ten years ago I never would imagine we would get things like Monogatari, Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer, Punpun or Hakomari licensed but here we are. Strange.

yen press
where each volume takes half a year to translate
meaning several years to complete any series

>>151022867
>Jewpress
>completing a series
kek

Great. Now we need a Hakomari adaptation produced by Shaft or P.A. Works.

I hope it flops.
Fuck JP

>>151020442
Fuck off EOP scum.

Fuck, Hakomari?

>>151022867
>>151022930
>poorfags making up memes to comfort themselves for being poorfags

Most yen press series release 3-4 volumes a year just like nips.

The only thing that makes yen press shit is the paper quality which makes them the worst

>>151023238
Well, they won't take as long as Mikage to complete the series, that's for sure.

>>151023238
It's kinda frustrating for 15+ vol. series since it means it'll take 5+ years to be up to date with the Japanese ones.

>>151020442
now release Nanasawa novels and i be happy

It's still on goddess right? Who cares. It's done anyways.

>>151023607
>reading any LN series that goes over 10 volumes and isn't finished

Anyways whats the problem? You can still read where you was reading from and ignore the physicals

>>151023812
Well I was talking of untranslated ones now, like AW, otherwise you're right.
Also it's fun that even Americans are complaining because no matter how shitty YP is, it's still ten times better than any LN publisher in my country. They fuck up the translations so much that it sounds like some book for gradeschoolers and they often switch to present time despite the original being paste tense, which make it sound even more retarded.

For once, I'm glad. It's finished and translated anyway and maybe Mikage will get the cash he deserves.

>>151022698
Punpun is not niche, normalfags love that shit. It's just like their TV dramas and soap operas.

Good, maybe /a/ will finally stop overrating this trash novel now that it gets more accessble.

>>151025009
Too bad, that won't happens.

>>151024179
>let them indulge
>rate of suicide only goes down by 15 or so percent while they rack up debts for the hormones and possibly surgery

>>151020442
>Hakomari licensed

Huh, does that mean an anime is coming up?

>>151027775
lol

... and another one bites the dust.

>>151027775
The novels are finished so there's nothing to promote. Not to mention they were never very popular.

>>151027775
isn't popular on japan, so no

>>151021920
It's a reiteration of Mikage's first novel; 'Boku wa Dokonimo Hirakami'
>It sounds like chains.
>The sound of the chains that binds them, struggling with exams and relationship troubles.
>The sound of the chains that binds them, who truly believe that the information floating down the muddy stream that is their world only looks like papier-mâché.
>Clank, clank.
>Iwanted to escape from those chains, so >I...
Or, so it seems.

I never got around to reading the last two novels. Guess its time to download them before they get taken down. Anyone have a nice formatted mobi version of 6 and 7?

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Are Yen Press the new Sekai Project of light novels, licensing stuff already fan translated?

Reminder that Hakomaria is far better than Re:Zero.

>>151027775
>Adapting a finished novel
You don't see to know how any of this works

>>151033297
Parasyte.

Nuff said.

>>151022147
Yes.
Hakomari is done. Read it before it gets taken off Bakatsuki.

>>151022971
I'd take SHAFT, they'd probably deal with it correctly because there are parts where you aren't allowed to know what is going on around the character and SHAFT will use their usual visual porn to keep you interested in that shit.

>>151033411
>I'd take SHAFT, they'd probably deal with it correctly
No they wouldn't you fucking retard. That studio is so far up its own asshole they'd probably turn the story into something it isn't, complete with all the inappropriate "shaftisms" like head tilts and warped aspect ratios.

There isn't a single studio right that could pull off a story like Hakomaria well. Old Madhouse would've been the best bet.

It's taken off baka tsuki. anyone got a dl link?

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>>151033596
did you even try?
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Utsuro_no_Hako_to_Zero_no_Maria

>>151033320
A popular cultural classic? Who the fuck knows about this novel?

>>151033971
well, you led them right to it, congratulations motherfucker

>>151033971
>>151035741
RIP. Another nice thing gone.

>>151028292
That "Free" knockoff just got an anime announced and it's finished, so why not?

>>151036117
Because this is a meme LN that sold like shit in Japan.

>>151020511
The watamote translations are good.

>>151020442
So I went to save a snapshot on the web archive so we'd always have a copy, but looks like some anon beat me to it.

Here's the link in case the original gets taken down: https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Utsuro_no_Hako_to_Zero_no_Maria

>>151033971
Great job retard.

>>151022698
>Monogatari
>niche

That shit is literally the same level as Love Hina.

>>151020442
Definitely buying this.

>>151022698
Those are probably THE most normalfag titles ever.

>>151020442
Thanks for the heads up. Just DLed the pdfs off baka. Time to eventually read all of this

>>151020442
Shit I better get around to finishing it I guess

Do people literally not know about Madokami,you can get pdf files of literally any LN there?

>>151043748
I've never managed to get accepted into the secret club

>>151043748
>tfw read it, loved it, and imported the LN's

Hakomaria is just literally impossible to adapt.

>>151033513
>That studio is so far up its own asshole they'd probably turn the story into something it isn't
SHAFT doesn't really change anything from a narrative perspective about their works.
>complete with all the inappropriate "shaftisms" like head tilts and warped aspect ratios.
But that''s a pretty damn appropriate aesthetic for something as convoluted as Hakomari.

Are Yen Press translations actually good?

>>151045045
some decent, some subpar, some shitty

>>151043950
I know people need money and everything but how the fug does it need 157k to do whatever that is?

LOL they can't even finish they're other series. Fucking shithead jews.

>buying localized physical
Friendly reminder the god-tier method of reading manga is buying raw phyiscal, then donating to TL groups that don't suck.

>>151033971
mods delete this

>>151043748
The first rule of sekrit klub is we don't talk about sekrit klub.

>>151044090
All you need to literally do is set up a username and password through irc

>>151045045

They don't seem to have their own translators, but contract students and other weebs to rush shit out without any editing or proofreading, so depending on your luck, you might get something that's okay-ish, or something that reads like a vietnamese exchange student's creative writing piece.

>>151045603
fucking kill me is that how it works

>>151045622
There's a PDF to spoon-feed you instructions as the second result in google if you search madokami

>>151045622
That's how it use to be at least back when I joined

>>151045635
I can't use google or watch youtube ni hao ching chong

>>151045045
YP TL quality oscilates too much because most of their translators are freelancers and most of the time seems like theres no QC of any kind.
Also the fact they usually go 4kids route and change religious references or even real warfare ones into retarded localizations doesn't help either.

>>151045045
Roll 1d100. Take the result and subtract the square root from 10. Congrats, you have the score of their translation out of 10.
They localize bullshit too, iirc they changed some random shit in Index to be about the Gulf war or something?

>>151045635
>second result
I get this, which is amusing I guess
www.change.org/p/international-astronomical-union-change-the-official-name-of-nebula-ngc-6357-to-the-madokami-nebula

>>151020442
>more harem shit novels

>>151020442
Literally NTR the Series. Any author who relies on rape is a hack. Especially when they push it in your face every volume

>>151045782
I read Haruhi through yen press. Did they change anything?

>>151046225
There was only one character who got raped and she didn't even have 10 lines of dialogue throughout the entire series.

>>151046006
>hakomari
>harem
Try harder

>>151046310
Author uses it as a threat for Maria throughout the series. That's bad writing.

>>151046399
>MC is only interested only in main girl even tough he is surrounded by girls wanting his dick so it is not harem
Everytime, you fucking LN faggots.Every fucking time

>>151046492
This.

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>>151020442
Anime when?

>>151046006
Harems aren't automatically shit
Rokujouma is pretty much a legitimate harem where the MC is flat up in love with all nine of the main girls.

>>151046258
Nah that was fine

>>151020442
>All these eops that need to read translations

>>151020882
>>151021024
Just download the pdf

>>151046492
So, which girls wanted his D?

>>151036433
I doubt it.
Spice and Wolf was too racy for them to leave unmolested. I have a hard time believing they left watamote intact.

>>151046563
It is shit though

>>151047288
>Rokujouma
>shit
t. cosplayer

>>151047097
What parts do you expect them to change?

>>151047309
In fairness I've only seen the anime of it, which was shit.

What does cosplay have to do with it? Do people who cosplay hate the costumes in it or something

>>151047338
Yeah the anime wasn't that great. I guess it's kind of like Overlord's anime in that it's more fanservice for the LNfags with a couple of entertaining moments.

>what does cosplay have to do with it?
It's the princess of love and courage, magical girl Rainbow Yurika~

>>151047411
YURIKA ISNT A COSPLAYER YOU FUCKING FAGTRON REE

>>151047457
that's my point
actual cosplayers can only wish that they were real magical girls

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>>151035741
>>151035847
>>151040030
yeah, anon led them to the top or second google result for any iteration of hakomari's name. no way yen press was gonna unearth that one otherwise.

you fucking mouthbreathers.

>>151046492
But none of the girls wanted his D, not even the main girl. She wanted his box.

>>151047097
What did they do with S&W?

>>151046475
The use of rape is bad writing because it's mostly meaningless shock value to make the antagonist utterly hateful and justify any action the MC might take. The threat of rape alone isn't..

>>151048086
Not him but:
What you wrote
>The use of rape is bad writing
What you meant
>rape is generally used poorly

>>151045089
A lot of legal shit most likely.

>>151048086
I think you might be retarded. There is no such thing as something being inherently bad writing. What matters is the execution. It just so happens that certain things are regularly poorly executed by authors for a quick somethign.

>>151046475
> uses it as a threat for Maria throughout the series
There was only one moment.

>>151020882
Already taken down.
Anyone care enough to upload to Mega or something?

>>151047309
I remember Rokujouma has dedicated Mega folder.
You still have links?

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>>151033971
>>151047850
Spoonfeeding should be a bannable offense. Nice job, jackass.

>>151045654
归还潜航器

>>151020442
This LN got pretty boring after the MC's best friend became evil. Shitty trope.

What's the fucking point of being mad? The translation of the whole series was finished years ago, who the fuck cares what happens now?
I don't understand the point of licensing it and then releasing their translation over a period of 7 years, while people who finish the first volume and want more can just download the rest for free.

>>151051411
>and then releasing their translation over a period of 7 years
I know it's cool to hate on YP like the in crowd and all, but let's not stoop to blatant misinformation. YP releases three volumes per year per series, not one.

>>151045045
List of YP translators:

>Haruhi vol 1-4 - Chris Pai (probably ex-fantranslator)
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=74988

>Haruhi vol 5-11 and S&W - Paul Starr (experienced translator)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-starr-8926993

>SAO, SAO Progressive, and Durarara!!- Stephen Paul (experienced freelancer)
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=46338
https://twitter.com/translatosaurus

>Accel World - Jocelyne Allen (pro freelancer)
http://www.kaikatsu.ca/

>Isolator - ZephyrRz/Kafka Fuura (??? freelancer, JLPT N1, BA in Asian Culture/Lang)
https://kafkafuura.wordpress.com/about/

>Book Girl and Another - Karen McGillicuddy (experienced freelancer)
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/karen-mcgillicuddy/23/821/bb1

>Index and Mahouka - Andrew Prowse (??? freelancer, JLPT N2)
>Index only - Yoshito Hinton (Experienced freelancer, Vertical manga translator. Dying from AMN)
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andrew-prowse/1a/53/970
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/yoshito-hinton/52/71b/349

>Danmachi - Andrew Gaippe (??? freelancer)
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/andrew-gaippe/a3/725/5a6

>NGNL - Daniel Komen (??? freelance memelord)
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/daniel-komen/60/194/652

>Maou-sama! and Kagerou Daze - Kevin Gifford (Experienced freelance writer, translator, videogame localizer)
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/kevin-gifford/6/724/699

>Log Horizon and Baccano - Taylor Engel (???)
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=112877

>Black Bullet - Nita Lieu (experienced freelancer)
http://translation.nitalieu.com

>Strike the Blood - Jeremiah Bourque (experienced freelancer, ex-Tokyopop)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremiahbourque

>Overlord - Emily Balistrieri (PT Kodansha childrens books translator)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilybalistrieri

>PSYCOME - Nicole Wilder (USN Engineering Command translator, MA in East Asian Lang/Lit/Ling, BA in JP Lang/Lit)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-wilder-549aa0a4

>>151045782
>change religious references
It's called crossism in the original too

>real warfare
This was pretty stupid though, I can only assume the translator was drunk

>no QC
This would explain why they left half of the honorifics in for Strike the Blood V1 and then suddenly backpedaled and expunged them entirely for subsequent volumes

>>151051459
>>151051522
Nah, fuck jew press. Having to wait because they send cease and desist shit to nice folks who translate stuff is ass.

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>>151020442
>Yen Press licenses yet another novel series that is already translated instead of one that is in need of translations.

>>151051666
>one that is in need of translations
Such as?

>>151051666
Accel World only had one translator that was a huge SA:O faggot despite Accel World being the better story. I'm glad YP licensed it instead of waiting ages for a sentence or two to be translated.

>>151052100
Something like Horizon.

>>151052229
Horizon is being perfectly well translated by someone who knows his shit. Do you want all that work to go to waste and then seeing the novel abandoned half way by YP?

>>151033971
End your life

>>151033971
Retard. I hope you only have Yen Press licensed light novels to read in the next 100 years. My toilet paper is of better quality, surely you'll get hemorrhoids.

>>151020882
>>151050194
Here you go, PDF version:
https://mega.nz/#!FEYnFQST!PtKaxnmWUvO-0JgUqliAFK-q_Nz9nEqlQt1lRgS2wR0

Reminder that you must reupload this series to as many places as possible. Fuck Yen Press, and fuck every single person who enables them by taking down their downloads.

>>151051598
>because they send cease and desist shit to nice folks who translate stuff
YP actually only very very rarely sends C&D notices. The big purges last year were all Kadokawa and Shueisha.

>>151052984
>>151052567
>>151051598
>Look mom, I'm fitting in!

>>151053044
I know you're some normalfag now. Go back to whatever shithole you come from.

>>151020511
YP is printed on better paper stock. Translations are subjective aside from minor proofreading errors. Better than machine translations.

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>>151053044
Thanks, YP shill.

>>151052984
Sent it to my mega account.
Thank you.

I don't mind Yen Press if they actually fast enough to translate up to latest chapter and doesn't abandon a project. As it is, they are pretty shit.

>>151053044
1 cent was deposited on your account.

>>151053105
>if they actually fast enough to translate up to latest chapter
Won't happen as long as their customers expect physical releases, because even if the translation only takes a month the real bottlenecks are getting Japan's approval for everything, negotiating with printers, distribution, retailers, etc.

See J-novel Club where they actually can release one volume every two months because they don't have to deal with the overhead of physical releases.

>and doesn't abandon a project
Name a single license that YP actually abandoned.

>>151051588
>It's called crossism in the original too

I should also add that The Russian Catholic and Roman Orthodox mentions are also accurate translations. Raildex isn't real life and the author was trying to stress that. Demon god was also accurate, in that the literal definition is describing a person with the power to distort the world. Homura Akemi is one such being, and no one contests her status as a demon.

>>151047850
>Anonymous 12/17/16(Sat)01:38:09
>13:27, 17 December 2016‎ EusthEnoptEron (Talk | contribs)‎ m . . (9,553 bytes) (-102)‎
>Note: This Project has been declared as Abandoned! and was taken down.
Really makes you think

>>151051459
>YP releases three volumes per year per series, not one.
This is wrong, they don't always do 3 per year. They release at whatever rate will make them the most money. They could release the entirety of Index within 6 months if they really wanted to with ease. They just won't because that won't rail in profits.

>le YP is too slow meme

Here's what a 2 month schedule would look like:

Normally 4 week translation could possibly be rushed for 2.5 weeks.

2 weeks maybe if the TL is both available (they have no other work, either from us or from other employers) and willing.

Of course this is *much* more expensive. Here we already have the first obstacle to a 2 month schedule.

Are the increase in sales going to cover the increased costs, ESPECIALLY increased costs within a small time frame?

Chances are no. Aiming for impulse buyers who's interest wanes very quickly isn't a stable strategy in a market as small as the EN LN market currently is.

But let's ignore that. Let's say that magically we can assure we'll get enough sales to cover the increased translation costs.

TL manuscript comes in after 2 weeks. It will absolutely have way more errors than normal. The editor will have to turn it around in a few days at most. They won't be able to work on *anything* else during this time frame.

This means that if they have other projects, those projects are now going to get delayed. And when you rush things, errors are going to slip through. But at least you get overtime! Oh, but overtime is more costs.

Then edited manuscript is copyedited and proofed. Meanwhile design is laying it out and production is figuring out the physical properties of the book. They have a week at most to do this. If they have other projects, guess what those projects are getting delayed because of the 2 month schedule.

Oh, but since you're asking everyone to put in overtime to make sure, even with all the inevitable errors that it ships with as few errors as possible, so wooo costs!

By the time first pass comes in, it's already been 4 weeks. Only 4 weeks left. Now the staff have to check everything while sending it for approvals to the JP pub/author. They better look close because with a 2 month release schedule, they'll only get the one chance.

>>151052229
>Something like Horizon.
Are you stupid? Horizon is being translated by one of the best translators in the entire weeb community.

>>151053589
>>151053586
And of course, inevitably, things are going to slip through because it's a rush. They get proofs from printers and you PRAY that Japan gives you the green light on the *very first round*.

This means they love *literally everything* and found nothing wrong that they want you to change. Guess how often that happens. Oh, and hurrying the proofs to at least get the one pass obviously costs rush fees.

But let's say, yes Japan loves everything and nothing is wrong. 3 weeks left. Normally the books should *already be at the warehouses by now*. Assets are prepped for printing and sent to the printer. Printer does final checks and sends back samples. But it's basically just for giggles at this point because it's literally too late to send any changes at this point.

Normally, you would use these samples as a guide to catch printing errors you see, misaligned assets, missing images, etc (this happens often and is an issue on the printer side that needs to be corrected by the publisher but since it's a spot check, you could theoretically get all clean ones while all the print error books were right below the ones picked to send as samples). Rush fees, of course.

Final printing done. 1.5 weeks left. If you're lucky. Publishers generally don't own printers. Printers have hundreds if not thousands of clients and a small LN publisher is far from their most important customer. If a bigger client needs to bump you so they can print 15 million fried chicken menus, guess who's taking the bump. Maybe you can ensure that you won't get bumped. Oh, but that costs money...

So AGAIN you pray nothing happens because with a 2 month release schedule, if everything isn't literally perfect, you're boned. By the by, at 1.5 weeks, the books should already *be in stores* awaiting the on sale date.

>>151053589
How much do they pay you?

>>151053647
>>151053589
>>151053586.
Now they ship to warehouses. You pray nothing goes wrong. You do the sun dance because you sure as hell don't want rain, sleet, snow, or houses from Kansas falling down because those will undoubtedly crush your last hopes of releasing on time for a 2 month schedule. Oh, rush fees.

5 days left, you're books are all hopefully at the warehouse. What, you thought the warehouses were at the printers? Hahaha. If only life were that convenient. Now you need to ship the books *everywhere*. But everywhere, with this time frame, can only include continental US, Canada, and Mexico. If even that. Oh well, with 2 month release schedule who has time to worry about anyone else anyway?

We now need to get everything from the warehouses to the retailers in at the latest, 4 days. Because the stores aren't going to sell your books out the back of a delivery truck like they're fresh strawberries. Oh, to ensure a 4 day delivery shipment of so much freight it's going to cost more? Well, dear. If we must...

And finally, release day! Woo the hell is over. All those 60~70 hour work weeks were worth it! And of course our customers increased ten fold, no *twenty fold* because we were 2 months faster! And it covers *all* the costs yay!

Now we can finally re—what's that? This is our life now? Guess what, we all quit. Good luck keeping that 2 month release schedule long enough to not go bankrupt.

In short: 2 months per volume is unsustainable. It literally can't be done unless conditions on the ground are completely different.

>>151053589
I wouldn't care half as much if they didn't nuke from orbit then take 8+ years to catch up. At that point I'm just gonna find scans and if I like it import the jp tanks. Tell your Shillverlords that they aren't making a market. Japan and scanlators are. If you're gonna be a vulture, have some respect.

>>151053589
>>151053647
>>151053678
Not going to pay for your crap, Jew press. The sooner you die the sooner people in the community can rise up to replace you.

>>151053586
>This is wrong, they don't always do 3 per year

In most cases they do
>They could release the entirety of Index within 6 months if they really wanted to with ease

Nobody is going to buy fucking sevral volumes in one go, only a retard wouldn't understand this.

>>151053769
>I wouldn't care half as much if they didn't nuke from orbit then take 8+ years to catch up.
Hey guess what, it's the fan translators who keep running scared even without getting C&D'd.
SAO's fan translation continued away from BT and was left alone. AW, same. Maou-sama, same. Haruhi Volume 10, same. Spice and Wolf, same.

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Again, far better than Re:Zero.

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>people suddenly care about hakomari despite it being finished much ages ago just because YP licensed it

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>>151053589
>>151053647
>>151053678
Anon, you are convulating this for no reason. YP releases so slowly because it makes money, that's it. A single fucking person translates the entire Index volumes within 1 week of release while at the same time as reading it. These things are basically perfect translations and editing is done by a few other people to pick the few mistakes he makes. And this is ALL done as a hobby. YP could literally shit out translations of everything with high quality translations if we assume their staff isn't bottom eating scum who don't even know the language at a native level.

Its released so slow to make money. People aren't going to buy 20 volumes at once and honestly aren't likely to come back to buy the rest because that's expensive. Then there is the fact book stores ain't going to buy 20 fucking volumes of something at once when there is no guarantee they'll sell.

>>151053905
Read that last part, retard.
> They just won't because that won't rail in profits.

>>151053647
>They get proofs from printers and you PRAY that Japan gives you the green light on the *very first round*.
>This means they love *literally everything* and found nothing wrong that they want you to change

going by anime I don't think there's enough people there who has enough English skills to check stuff, let alone other foreign languages that LNs get translated to like Chinese

>>151053823
Community? You mean like Nanodesu, who put out one volume a year or so if you're really, really lucky? Or the translators of series like Psycome or Chaika or countless others who just vanish altogether halfway? Or translators of series like Danmachi who put out barely comprehensible translations from the Chinese and clearly don't even speak good English?

>>151053905
>Series is popular in nip land
>Fans are already along for the ride and current
>Johnny come lately shows up wanting [guaranteed profit] of a pre-established fanbase
>Takes for fucking ever anyway instead of catching up so they can provide a service to the existing fanbase they're courting
It's obnoxious.

>>151054001
Poor Yen Press wanting to actually turn a profit instead of just catering to the dozen or so whales who will actually buy a 22 volume omnibus, making no money and pissing off the licensor in Japan for failing to make guaranteed sales figures.

>>151053678
Why do you keep licensing stuff already translated or with active ongoing translation?
Isn't there in Japan anything new to translate?

>>151053096
>Better than machine translations.
Too bad Euths doesn't do machine translations and translated HakoMari legitimately.

>>151054001
Why are you making it sound like a business trying to make money is bad?

>These things are basically perfect translations

Not the first 14 volumes they aren't, Js06 didn't really get on board till later

>>151054170
Anon, they are literally going as fast as they can while still being able to turn any kind of a profit at all. Did you forget that light novels are a business even in Japan?

See all this shit
>>151053678
>>151053647
>>151053589
only by going digital only can they skip that, and most publishers are very leery of that. So far only J-Novel Club has dared to go all in on digital only LNs, and manage to do a two month schedule.

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>rare hakomaria thread
>all the arguing is about yenpress
/a/ is dead.

>>151054170
I don't know why you assume everyone is like you, a lot of people don't care and are moralfags that think buying physicals would be somehow supporting the creator. I still don't see how what YP does even affects a fanbase from still reading their fan translations since most cases just translator himself being a retarded moralfaggot or somehow to dumb ignore their shit

>>151054331
Because YP is shit, slow ass release schedule coupled with shitty only slightly above machine translations and SJW-tier editing. The hate is deserved.

>>151054253
Because it is when they're providing a poorer service and still running out others.

>>151054172
The customers have every right to be upset for constantly being years behind in content and having the possibility of YP dropping it and never finishing it hanging around as well. Businesses exist to make profit, but that doesn't change the fact YP is treating its customers like second class people and failing to do their job of serving the customer properly. There is no excuse for their behavior and slowness of their releases. Profit will never be an excuse for the fact things are YEARS behind and stay behind for YEARS.

People don't just want timely releases, they want to be actually caught up on the work. YP fails this 100% all for the sake of a measly profit.

>>151054253
Those weren't translated by js06 last I recall. But js06 has translated everything since and its basically perfection.

>muhhh why does YP touch ongoing works

>they go and do a completed work

>wahhh why they're touching completed shit

Pdfs aren't gonna dissappear fucks

>>151054381
>Because it is when they're providing a poorer service

Yes because 80% of LN's aren't machine translated garbage, not every single series is lucky enough to have somone like sky or js06 to actually make effort or be a wizard at translating

>>151054286
>he actually took that anon posting 3 posts worth of shit seriously
I seriously doubt anything he said is that case. I stopped reading the instant he implied manuscripts are sent to japan. They licensed to translate and publish it outside of Japan. Why the fuck would they check it back to make sure its "ok". It's a giant waste of time and I seriously doubt the publishers actually care about the western releases enough for that shit.

Anon needs to cite for his little rant to be taken seriously.

>>151054544
It's basic respect for the author and the work to get it right. Did you not have a required foreign language or something? There's a lot that can be lost in translation. Especially with the differences between japanese and english

>>151020442
I'd rather import the Japanese novels. I seriously doubt buying the YP low quality babbelfish translations go towards supporting the author.

>>151020442
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

>>151054411
>The customers

Yes the people who've been pirating shit are "customers"

Sometimes these LN's are just for animeonlyfaggots who are keen on the real thing and prefer books in general

YP have never dropped a single series so keep acting as if they've done so

>muhh slow

Name any book localising company that releases 10 volumes in a year

>>151054544
Anon, did you even watch Shirobako? The author and publisher has to sign off on EVERYTHING that anyone does to their work.

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>>151054504
They aren't fan translators, they are a business that you pay money to. Comparing them to fan translators is dishonest, they are different things. Especially in the case of fucking service. As a business, they are /meant to/ provide a better service than the fan translators.

Being better than MTL garbage isn't a compliment, it is an incredibly big insult. By even making the comparison, you yourself are admitting how poor of a service they are providing and that it is unacceptable.

>>151054596
>basic respect
That is a big assumption that is being made here. It was said by himself, they are a business. You are implying they fucking care about that, businesses don't care about this. That is the sort of thing one goes out of their way to do, not a requirement. It also cost money, a lot. Considering how much they slow down the releases for the sake of profit, I have serious doubts about them caring about basic respect for this unless something is cited.

>>151054633
>>151020442
How do I find how much the author gets from the jp tanks and whoever has licensed it? Did my buy and got $400 in books this month

>>151054738
Shirobako isn't completely 100% truth, anon. Are you really going to use this as a source? You are only making people think you are talking about of your fucking ass for thinking you are the industry master because you watched a fucking anime about the industry.

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>>151054741
>Wanted to buy PokeSpecial tanks
>That absolute butchering of a "translation"
The pain is real.... ;_;

All of this "but YP is a business!" talk is missing the point.
If they can't produce a quality product and make money off of it, then they deserve to go out of business. Fuck 'em.

>>151054331
>I'm suppose to support jew press

go fuck yourself

>>151054544
Japan cares because they are protecting their work. The publisher needs to sign off on everything.

For example, maybe author doesn't like the way a certain thing is laid out or how the English logo works. You literally cannot go forward. You *MUST* get author/JP pub approval before you can move forward with printing. If you can't satisfy them, then you can't release. Simple as that.

And another issue, maybe assets from Japan haven't arrived. You can't release a book missing the cover art, insert assets, or interior images. Until those assets arrive from Japan, there's nothing you can do. You can't just draw up new things without permission and the fans would hate you for it.

https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=761715&showfiles=67785c1f

>>151054738
isn't it mainly about the anime production process which is just in Japanese? and Girlish Number can also be an example in this case
If they have someone who cares enough/has enough skills to check a foreign language translation they might as well as do it themselves

>>151054862
They just need to go all digital and start pumping out faster translations.

>>151054741
Then why are you implying they provide a poorer service than these "machine translator" fags? Because they didn't shit out 20 volumes for you? Just go continue reading your rushed shit and hope your "translator" didn't abandon your series already.


Can't believe people whining over a finished series too.

>YP licensed Re Zero
>there is till Re zero fucking LN generals here

What the fuck? They're meant to be my niggas that make translators pussy out, why the fuck is re zero still getting translated? Hoping that garbage series will die out completely

>>151054996
Erosion is still erosion.

>>151055079
No force on earth can stop concentrated autism of that magnitude. It does knock over the smaller series though.

>>151054544
The Japanese publishers and authors don't just blindly trust the English publisher to do everything properly. They will of course want to check that the typesetting is fine, the terminology is fine, the logo is fine, etc.

It's the same with anime. The days of an anime getting hacked up and modified by the licensee without the licensor's knowledge are long gone. These days, every aspect of anime localization is subject to close supervision and scrutiny by the original producers.

>>151055079
>Hating re zero because it's popular

>>151055139
But mann, they killed Mahouka here and was hoping the same result.

YP slipping

>>151055181
Maybe because it is shit.

>>151055181
I hate it because the author ruined his series with waifubait shit and the entire fanbase is full of autistic waifufaggots

Since advertising is now allowed on /a/ who trying to buy my air gear volumes?

>>151054928
Anon, cite me the fucking source for all of this. This is nothing but a pile of assumptions built in the illusion land of anons head. It has no ground in reality. No, anime made about the industry isn't an actual credible source. That last para is also grasping at straws. That stuff is stored as digital data and only has to be flicked over. It doesn't take a month to flick that shit over. It's already all done and compiled. All they have to do is find it in their database and flick it over through the proper channels.

>>151054996
The only one who brought up MTL translators are you. No one said they are providing a better service than them, but you. Not all translators are MTLniggers. Even then, these things take /more work/, because the people working on them don't know anything about the language and have to edit to hell and make something that makes zero sense. As a result, it could easily be 10x the work load than something done correctly. So even with the MTL comparison you are making, yes, YP are doing a poorer service. MTL translators are doing not just more work, doing it as a hobby AND are releasing at a much faster rate. Their problem is that fact you can barely call it a translations.

Stop blindly trying to bloody defend YP. There is no excuse here. They are meant to make money by cater to the customers wants, not forcing the customer to THEIR wants for money. There is no excuse for their piss slow translations. They could have spent the years trying to improve their service to fix the problems and release faster, they didn't. Because they don't give a shit about anything but money.

Their job isn't just to give me timely releases, its to get me up to the pace with Japan. Most of their customers demand this as they bitch about this all the time. They aren't providing a proper service and are treating their customers as second class citizens. I really shouldn't reply to obvious trolls.

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>tfw hoped this would turn into a chill Hakomari thread
>it turned into a YP rant thread instead

>>151054544
>it doesn't fit my head narrative so it's lies
Yes anon, Japan of course doesn't give a shit what the English publisher does to their work and how it's presented in the foreign market. They will just never check to make sure they haven't changed all the names to Christian ones, moved the setting from Tokyo to San Francisco, and added burkas to all the character artwork.

>>151055079
Very few translations are actually killed by Yen Press licensing. They just move off of B-T. Campione is the only one that was flat out dropped because of it, I think

>>151055231
>tfw we'll never relive the old days of a sketchy guy selling subbed CD's out of his trenchcoat from an alleyway again
Life was crazier than anime...

>>151055350
I'll give you 440 YP points!

>>151055360
Make hype then.

>>151055382
Campione wasn't even YP, Kadokawa was just going around pulling all their shit regardless of whether it was licensed or not.

>>151055430
Oh yeah, you're right. So Yen Press has never actually killed translations then.

Reminder Daiya factually never did anything wrong and Kazuki was an edgy retard

>>151053589
>le YP is too slow meme

Wish they were slower. As is, all the rush is dealing dramatic damage to the quality. If I keep having typos, missing words, mixed names and punctuation errors distract me all the time, on top of other issues, I'm not even going to bother finish the book, and will certainly never buy another. And I'd like to believe I'm not the only one in the world with standards.

Professional quality is supposed to be the official translation's main advantage over fan work. If that's lost, then why the fuck would anybody pay for this shit?

>>151055360
I've never heard about Hakomari, sell me on the series

>>151055480
But no one is even translating Mahouka besides basic summaries from anons

>>151055360
This will always happen when a series gets licensed. Give it a week or two then you can have comfy threads again.

>>151055353
>Anon, cite me the fucking source for all of this. This is nothing but a pile of assumptions built in the illusion land of anons head. It has no ground in reality.
The source is a verified LN industry worker on /r/lightnovels

inb4 hurr gb2reddit


>That last para is also grasping at straws. That stuff is stored as digital data and only has to be flicked over. It doesn't take a month to flick that shit over. It's already all done and compiled. All they have to do is find it in their database and flick it over through the proper channels.
That's where the human element comes in. They still need someone physically search up in their files for the assets they need to send them over. And it didn't say that it takes a month anywhere.

>>151055529
Not true, 16 and 17 have come out since it was licensed, and half of 18 was posted last month. Its still getting translated, just very slowly.

>>151055484
Daiya was fucking mental, and his ideas were warped and completely flawed.
The whole thing about criminals being turned into dog people as a way of deterring crime and thoughtlessness is no different than the way crime is handled already, it would merely make the punishment more severe and ridiculously bizarre and utterly dehumanizing.

>>151055480
Yen Press hasn't killed translations since ancient times, the time of Haruhi.

Death March is still up. SAO is still up. AW is still up. Konosuba is still up. And others. They just aren't on BT anymore.

>>151055382
They kill discussion which is the only benefit of them licensing shit

>>151055520

The biggest pussy in the world meets a total Mary Sue and a bunch of assholes, and contrived magic shit starts happening.

>>151055720
That's the thing. The first stuff I remember getting taken off of BT was Haruhi and Spice and Wolf, and both of those ended up being fan translated too. YP has never killed anything. People were just too lazy to google shit after it got taken off of BT back then.

>>151055720
Then what's the problem with YP if none gets killed?

>>151055360
You can blame this one retard with the gigantic irrational YP hateboner for all that.

Yeah, it sucks when YP picks up a series that will then take a couple years to catch up. No, YP aren't literally Hitler. No, YP has no obligation to release one volume a week, and the JP publisher probably wouldn't let them because they actually do want sales.

>>151055753
AnimeSnob, pls go.

>>151055639
>The source is a verified LN industry worker on /r/lightnovels
Not just cite me cunt, provide me with a reason why I should actually /believe him/ and not just assume its someone feeding sweet words to try and decrease the obvious backlash they get. Being apart of the industry doesn't sudden automatically make someone correct or right. Only an idiot would blindly trust them, just the same as only an idiot would blindly trust Hiro for the things he has said despite proving nothing for them other than a nice sweet "trust me".

Finding the files also shouldn't take less than an hour. This stuff should be properly filed and databased.

>>151055829
B-T is the only aggregator site for LNs, and stuff gets taken off of there when it gets licensed. This makes it slightly harder to find, and that pisses lazy people off.

YP will send DMCAs here if links to translations are posted in threads and mods will delete them, killing discussion. Since someone is always willing to troll and post links, it tends to kill threads off here unless the fan base is extra stubborn.

Other companies have actually killed translations, but YP is the most famous one so it gets the blame regardless.

>>151055753
Worth a read at least?

>>151055977
Just read them, the novels are really good. Don't listen to some bitter fags opinion on it.

>>151055855
>Finding the files also shouldn't take less than an hour. This stuff should be properly filed and databased.
Yeah it's almost like the workers at massive LN publishing houses have other things to do as well and there are multiple people in charge of things all of whom have to wait for each other. Never experienced a bureaucracy before?

>provide me with a reason why I should actually believe him
Provide me with a reason why I should throw out all out as fantasies. Because while on the one hand he will be biased in favor of official translations, on the other hand he also has access to information that you don't with your own "books can magically appear in a week" illusion land.

>>151055841
>YP has no obligation to release one volume a week, and the JP publisher probably wouldn't let them because they actually do want sales.
They have a obligation to do timely releases and to catch up the japanese releases. This is the service they are meant to be providing and its the service they are obligated to do. If there are technical barriers stopping them from doing so, they are required to overcome to provide that service.

YP aren't providing a good service. You really can't argue they are. They are providing a poor service and they ARE slow. The only thing they are doing is releases translations to make a profit, but that's it. They have no intentions to provide a proper good service, they just only intend to make a profit. If they were providing a good service, they would be catching up with the jap work and not be taking years to do it. They are providing a poor service and an average one at best. But they aren't providing a good one and there is nothing wrong with customers demanding good service. In fact, they should be demanding a good better service, otherwise that's how you get into a pit of stagnation of garbage and the customers being robbed.

Yes, I expect them to translate 20 volumes in at least 3 fucking years. It's their job to. If they were providing a good service, they would be trying to do this, not take 10 years to play catch up. Trying to act like customers are the bad ones for expecting a business to provide a real fucking better service only makes you look like an idiot who likes to be literally jewed by corporations.

>>151020511
What? Yen press uses better paper than most of Japanese tankoubon themselves

Plenty of manga printed in japan are one level above newspaper grade paper

I for one am delighted that it got licensed, and so I was more than happy to delete the project.

In my opinion, this is one of the best things that could have happened to Hakomari and am looking forward to the release.

People who have never heard of it can now easily buy the books.
People who have enjoyed Hakomari are now able to give something back to the author / the industry, or they are now able to simply get a physical copy that they can put in their shelves.
People who don't have the money / just don't want to spend any money if they don't know if it's worth it can still find it on the Internet if they look for it.

I wonder how much will it sell, considering it's pretty popular in the west

>>151020442
t. yen press

>>151056319
Yeah, I don't quite get the outrage over this one. The translations have been done for a while. Most people who what to read them probably already have and have saved the pdfs off somewhere. As you say this will only expose it to more people who weren't going to read it anyway.

The only time I get mad about licensing is when its a series that has a ton of volumes already translated. Like Mahouka (I know its still being translated, this is just an example). 17 fan translated volumes. YP starts translating, and if they release 3 volumes a year, that's 6 years before I can read what happens next. That sucks.

>>151056430
The fanbase has already read the translation. What's the point?

>>151055360
everyone and their mother already read it

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>>151056173
>Provide me with a reason why I should throw out all out as fantasies.
If you want to make an argument, prove it. If you actually are believing these people who don't provide proper evidence and nothing but words, yes, you are a LITERAL idiot. Those who don't question and blindly believe are stupid. Working in the industry doesn't suddenly mean anything he says is trustworthy nor does having information I don't have mean he is trustworthy as well. He could be running you on a rusecruise and you would never know, because, as you said, you are ignorant of the inner workings. Especially a reddit post for the matter, jesus christ.

Any sane intelligent person would treat the post as nothing more than a "this might be how it works", but that's it. Unless there is something provided to prove each things, its a pile of bullshit that you question every single part of and is conclusive in no way.

>>151056263
>They have a obligation to do timely releases and to catch up the japanese releases.
If the Japanese didn't put it in the license contract, then they have no such obligation and the Japan agree.

>This is the service they are meant to be providing and its the service they are obligated to do. If there are technical barriers stopping them from doing so, they are required to overcome to provide that service.
>Yen Press can ignore physical and financial constraints because I say so

>They are providing a poor service and they ARE slow.
One volume every three to four months for over twenty series (plus a shitzillion manga) is pretty fast. They're actually having trouble maintaining the speed they are at while also maintaining quality, delays piss off the Japanese publisher too.

>The only thing they are doing is releases translations to make a profit, but that's it. They have no intentions to provide a proper good service, they just only intend to make a profit. If they were providing a good service, they would be catching up with the jap work and not be taking years to do it.
Yes, let's have YP kill themselves just to catch up by providing rushed product and then go bankrupt instantly because ain't nobody can do what you insist you have a right to.

>In fact, they should be demanding a good better service, otherwise that's how you get into a pit of stagnation of garbage and the customers being robbed.
Maybe the fact that in a free market system nobody has actually done what you ask and outcompeted them should clue you in to the fact that this is the best the market will support.

>It's their job to
Their job is to deliver the product with a minimum standard of quality, and they can't do that by shitting out rushed crap that sells about twelve copies.

>>151056263
>They have a obligation to do timely releases and to catch up the japanese releases.

Yes release 3 to 4 volumes a year in most cases which japs themselves rarely do. Nobody ever releases of to 10 a year so kys for expecting radical shit like that. Outside of /a/ people rarely bitch about this so yeah you're just projecting your own retarded needs as a obligation.


Saying they're a bad service for no releasing several volumes for a series in in one go is the dumbest shit I've seen

>>151056319
Yeah kiddo, a barely better than machine translation in twenty fucking twenty.... They could have already given back by buying from yesasia instead of waiting 4 years to give even less to the author.

>>151056263
>I expect them to translate 20 volumes in at least 3 fucking years


Hahahaa, look at this entitled faggot. Any company that did this with an obscure series will flop.

End of the day you're just a minority since nobody actually wants this shit

>>151056560
All you are doing is speculating on how truthful it is. Fine, critical thinking requires that you look at a source and think 'what ulterior motives MIGHT the author have' and 'what part don't make logical sense'?

Okay, we've established bias. Now anon, do you know any better? Hiro's bullshit was called out because there were conflicting sources pointing out past shady behavior and inconsistencies in data presented. Do you have a better source from a different perspective that suggests that the timeline of events is greatly exaggerated and actually it only takes a day or two for each step? Or just your own fantasies thinking "this sounds about right"? Otherwise we're getting into "people have had enough of experts" territory.

Finally I can see what's so good about it. Release date?

>>151056649
Doesn't matter. The author flopped entirely with this series, he pretty much failed with this anyways.

Interesting that people are shilling YP so agressively.
It's just stupid that after an interesting anime adaption, YP just fucking comes in like a vulture, licenses it and, while the hype and interest is at its peak, you're shit out of luck because you have to wait 2 years until the translations caught up.

>>151056787
Is it a series was cancelled, everybody dies ending?

>>151056649
I doubt their translations are worse than mine. Besides, fans can now choose if they are willing to go the extra mile and buy the Japanese version or just stick to the English one that they can read.

Sounds good to me.

>>151056560
>He could be running you on a rusecruise and you would never know, because, as you said, you are ignorant of the inner workings.
And he could be telling the gospel truth and you would never know, because he's literally the only source available. In the complete absence of any information to the contrary, the only possible course of action is to treat it tentatively as more likely to contain more truth than fabrication than not.

At the very least, giving it more than zero credence is on balance more likely than not to leave you more informed than just making shit up.

>>151056815
Nah its pretty complete

I mean he failed as in nobody literally brought this. It's so bad the series probably sold more in poland than in japan

>>151056479
>t.

Fuck off

>>151056803
>to wait 2 years until the translations caught up

You don't though.

Why you acting like they actually kill translations?

>>151056986
I guess having the last volume come out actual years after the one before it really hurt sales

>>151055235
Its not, at least the anime.

>>151055266
Does it get worse in the novel? "Waifubait" is such a normalfag thing to say.

>>151057026
They do actually, I thought this was common sense

>>151057026
They're either slower than the fantranslator/ fantranslator drops the series because they don't think they're needed/you end up with 2 translations.
Why do I need YP again? If they want my money atleast make the effort to catch up to the JP release in a timely manner (while the hype from the anime is at its peak)

>>151057197
Name one

>muh they removed it off baka tsuki so the translations stopped

Yeah because they can't and never used anywhere else to post their trans

>>151057269
>They're either slower than the fantranslator/

This is rare, a lot of series actually take years to translate a single volume.

And you don't need YP. A lot of shit licensed by YP still gets translated not in your safe space Baka Tsuki

>>151024179
>switch to present time despite the original being paste tense
I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about.

>>151057273
Also, it's like touhou scanlations. Being everywhere is a real pain and that sucks cause there's less exposure to establish a fanbase for a work who'd want to buy it when it was licensed and caught up

>>151056714
It's a customers right to be an entitled piece of shit. It's what keep the money flowing. Businesses are built around providing a service and customers SHOULS be entitled pieces of shit. They should always demand better.

There is nothing wrong with expecting them to catch up to the nips in a reasonable amount of time instead taking of bloody years. This is the right of a customer and their job is to provide a better service than 3 fucking books a year. You can cite technical problems all you wamtl, but it won't chamge the fact they should be doing better. If they are having issues with their current workload, maybe they should stop trying to more than they can fucking chew like a bunch of fucking jews?

>>151056916
I disagree. In the complete absence of the contray, I would say its better to assume its possibly false. Words are meaningless and withoht something to actually back them up they are nothing more than a wet towel. The names mean fucking nothing to me. It could be the jap publisher saying it and I will still assume its false. The name has no meaning and as such, the words have less meaning if nothing is provided. This provides something that might be considered, not treated as any truth in amy form.

Names have no value. They bring nothing but making it higher up the list of what might be the case. The reddit post only has a very slight more value than an anons post if it provides no evidence.

>>151057273
Thankfully nothing I care about, which says a lot about their lineup.

But let's say Hakomari was ongoing, the guy who translated it would've stopped most likely. It's not a matter of posting.

>>151056319
>People who have never heard of it can now easily buy the books.
Yeah, they'll be able to buy volume 7 in 2030 once Yen Press figures out you can also use google translate. Fuck off with that shit.
>People who have enjoyed Hakomari are now able to give something back to the author / the industry
You are delusional if you think any eleven is actually going to see a single fucking cent from Yen Press

>>151057149
>Does it get worse in the novel?

It continies to waste time proving who's subaru's main girl and having him actually fawn for rem. I don't care if waifubait is a normalfag thing to say because the series literally turned to that.

Using the appeal of death resets and catering to rem and emilia loving faggots instead of making use of the premise.

>>151057407
I see, that sucks.

>>151056319
>People who have enjoyed Hakomari are now able to give something back to the author / the industry

If I wanted to support the author I would buy the nip release.

>>151057070
Even the first volume had ridiculously low sales

>>151057273
ACCEL WORLD, YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS, stop trying to act like they haven't killed anything.

After Yen Press picked up AW, the translators released two more volumes and promptly died. It also took YP HALF a year to get those two volumes out that the group did back in JUNE.

>>151057396
>Kikestart a google translated LN company
>Put up volumes days after they drop in japan and sold on toilet paper with cheap ink
>2.99 a vol
>35 volumes a year per staff member
>Do a monthly anthology of the translated works for maximum cringe
Dare to dream?

>>151055753
> The biggest pussy in the world
> Kazuki
He is the manliest man in all japanese industry. His devotion to his waifu knows no bounds.

>>151057467
Oh god I forgot about this one. Fuck, it actually died?

>>151057327
Don't fucking try to bullshit me, never has YP been faster than fantranslators. Just look what Nigel does with the Overlord LN and how long YP needs.
And my points still stand. Professionals shouldn't need more time than people who translate in their freetime.

>>151057467
To be fair the sole AW translator was more interested in SA:O than AW and released pretty slowly. There were a couple of blogs on the net that did faster translations but they gave up rather quick.

Fun fact, the Spanish translation of AW is complete up to the last released volume funnily enough.

>>151057373
>It's a customers right to be an entitled piece of shit

The average customer doesn't want to buy 8-10 volumes consecutively, especially when they are interested in multiple series so you can times that by 3 for example, that shit will take ridiculous amount of their money.

I can't believe you think your way will keep a business flowing, you must be extremely braindead.

>>151057494
You need to eliminate physical releases in my opinion or do a small premium run wherein original kikestarter backers get printed volumes and goodies and everyone else gets a .pdf/mobi

>>151057535
You wouldn't believe how much money normalfags casually interested about manga or in this case LNs are willing to waste

>>151057269
>They're either slower than the fantranslator
In my personal experience, 3-4 volumes a year is vastly, vastly more timely than a majority of fan translations, except for the select few like Rokujouma or js06's stuff. Look how long Korean Zombie or Grimgar's translations take for each volume. Look at Twintail which has done one volume in two years. Look at Accel World which YP is actually overtaking even though they continued off site. Look at the graveyard of dead translations littering BT.

>fantranslator drops the series because they don't think they're needed
That's just the translator being a jackass. If they really don't think they are needed then that means they don't think that they will be able to translate faster than YP, because otherwise they would be providing the useful service of keeping up to date, like what is now happening with Overlord and Gifting. Really they're just looking for an excuse to drop it if they actually stop just because of that.

>Why do I need YP again?
Because they provide physical books and better translations than 95% of the ESL J-C-E shite out there

>If they want my money atleast make the effort to catch up to the JP release in a timely manner
Not a sustainable business model.

>>151057535
Why do you idiots always assume shit gets dumped all at once? Fucking idiot. Even once a month is better.

>>151057359
>Being everywhere is a real pain

So it stems to laziness?

>>151057509
Volume 4 was only half translated and then promptly dropped.

To be absolutely fair to YP the AW translation is actually pretty good but it's slow as balls. Took them like a year and a half for two volumes to be released.

>>151057525
Amazingly, SAO Progressive YP translations are infinitely faster than what the fan translations were.

Also, the manga scanlations were hot garbage.

>>151057535
Is magic forcing the consumer to buy all 10 volumes at once if it's available or can't they just, you know, buy the volumes at their pace?

>>151057561
I don't really like digital cause there's little reason for me to buy it. At least I have the tanks when I buy hard. We can hope akamatsu's digital service works out so at least my 2.99 a vol goes towards the artist instead of him getting a nickel

>>151057525
I made it through the year without needing my shit got fucked savings so I blew 400 on manga and I probably will next year like I have been for a couple years now.

>>151057607
Unless you get a recommendation it's harder to find something you might like cause you don't know it's a thing and it's on some 2,000 hits blog somewhere instead of an aggregator where you see it in the oh you may also like:

>>151057658
It costs money to keep things in physical stock, so unless they go all digital, it won't work out.

>>151057591
You do shit in your freetime without pay for the community, and suddenly professionals appear, do the same as you and even get paid. You decide to drop it because the community doesn't need 2 translations. That suddenly makes you a jackass?

If cr can do it, so can yp.

>>151057510
>been faster than fantranslators.

Look at grimgar, the fag before the license spend an entire 8 months translating half a fucking volume.

It's nearly been 2 years and tokyo ravens has no update. Just because your popular series get translated fast don't act like fan trans bother with eveything

>>151057510
>Don't fucking try to bullshit me, never has YP been faster than fantranslators.
They're faster than Nanodesu's Re Zero. They are faster than Baka-Tsuki and Burst Linkers' Accel World. They are translating Psycome whose BT translation was entirely dead. They are magnitudes faster than BT's SAO Progressive.

>Just look what Nigel does with the Overlord LN and how long YP needs.
Because Nigel doesn't have to run everything by the Japanese publisher, or do proper editing, or typeset the book, or arrange printing and distribution.

>And my points still stand. Professionals shouldn't need more time than people who translate in their freetime.
Profrssionals actually have red tape to cut through.

>>151057746
> professionals
Always funny.

>>151057691
>I don't really like digital cause there's little reason for me to buy it.
So they lost you but probably gained tens of hundreds more buyers. Nobody gives a shit about physical copies these days. And the anime community is the perfect market to test all digital releases considering that the community pretty much consumes all their chinese cartoons via the net.

All digital is the only way quick releases would work out. If you need something physical that bad, go to a fucking Kinko's.

>>151057825
>Nobody gives a shit about physical copies these days.

You're wrong.

>>151020598
Kill yourself.

>>151057467
Accel World translations were dead before it got licensed. Also, like others, they're still going on, just super slow. There's been releases since it was licensed. The last one was volume 8 in April

>>151057658
>s magic forcing the consumer to buy all 10 volumes at once if it's available or can't they just, you know, buy the volumes at their pace?

That is just a complete waste of money if people don't buy a lot of it in one go and then there is ZERO guarantee they'll be buy the rest thats out later. Atleast when YP pace themselves and a certain volume doesn't do well later they lose much much less than if eveything bombed in one go.

>>151057789
If you receive a salary for doing it, you're a professional. It's not rocket science.

>>151057691
>Unless you get a recommendation it's harder to find something you might like cause you don't know it's a thing

Nigga, if you liked a series finding a blog will not be hard. Some are literally just googling or lurking threads. If you cared for a series this is not hard.

>>151057467
AW was dead long before YP turned up. Bust Linkers managed to do up to volume 8 even as YP was doing their thing, but they were so slow that YP are now ahead of them. You're not getting anywhere by repeating "faggot" over and over.

>>151057658
>buy the volumes at their own pace
No retailer is going to stock ten volumes and just leave lying around for years waiting for people to buy at their own pace. It's a financial burden.

I don't care about YP, I just want to buy it to support Mikage for his amazing series. Japanese preferred to buy all those generic isekai LN bullshit over this touching and beautiful story, maybe at least English release will bring Hakomari some acknowledgment.

>>151051522
Kevin Steinbach: Goblin Slayer

What were the sales figures for HakoMari in nip land anyway?

>>151057825
Yeah probably. I think I'm getting old. I've started buying weekly releases of this one taiwanese mango so who knows.

>>151058235
>least English release will bring Hakomari some acknowledgment.

It's been like top rated novel in MAL for years

>inb4 MAL

Just saying

>>151058408
I mean acknowledgement in Nihon.

>>151058408
Sales wise it's done pretty bad. I don't remember the numbers but if five hundred burgers bought the 1st novel that would probably be more than the 1st volume ever sold in area eleven.

>>151057952
>tfw licensed hayate x blade was dead in the water at 6 volumes
>tfw 6 bricks on my shelves and unlikely that it'll ever get picked up again this century
Feels bad man.

>>151058017
I'm saying that the aggregator exposes it to you for the first time in an easy fashion so you know it exists.

>>151057825
I may be an odd case, but I actually like the YP releases because I enjoy having the physical item instead of reading it in a screen.
And I live in a shitty third world country, so I have to import every single book I want. I tolerate some mistranslations just because it gives me the chance to actually collect the books, even if they are not in my first language.
On a side note, there are manga publishers in my country, more than one, but none of them publish Light Novels. People are just too stupid to read 200 pages of words without a lot of pictures.

>>151020442
>Yen Press
well thats sad
already have everything saved so don't care

>>151058492
Meh, if it's something good no matter how obscure it is you'll see it mentioned on sites eventually. Especially if it had an anime and you liked it that's on you for not checking.

>>151058978
I don't even watch anime so a lot flies by me.

>>151058235
>I just want to buy it to support Mikage for his amazing series.
Then buy it in Japanese. YP already payed a pathetic fee to Mikage, you wouldn't have any impact whatsoever by purchasing their vomit.

>>151059112
How do license deals usually work? one-time fee or per unit?

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>Jew Press defiles yet another series with it's touch
Why couldn't Achmed and Friends bomb those fucks

>>151060113
Because Achmed works for the jews and jew press is a friend of the merchantry

It's still up on the godess, right?

It will always be up on the godess even if it's licensed, right?

>>151021961
Yen press need to announce it everywhere so they can have some retards buying their shit.

>>151056514
I'd still buy the physical copy anon.I really love this ln

>>151059437
One-time fee.

>>151059112
What's sad is that it's likely that they really did pay him a very pathetic fee since Hakomari isn't popular at all in Japan. Its sales were pathetic all throughout, but since it's popular on the west there's this misconception among foreigners that hakomari is popular and some idiots genuinely think it could get an anime.

>>151020442
This series is garbage, it had the worst deus ex machina of love breaking reality, Daiya's bullshit, the refusal to accept fate after THOUSAND UPON THOUSANDS OF LOOPS, massacre and suicide like a lunatic, inconsistent Maria, in fact, everyone was inconsistent, everyone was just batshit insane. The fans are fucking annoying when they can only respond, "shut up if you have nothing better to say." Fuck you all. You all disgust me.

>>151059437
Usually a one-time fee for a certain number of Volumes, once they catch up it's per unit; hence why JewPress goes for slow as fuck releases so they get a better binge deal for maximum profit.
But if the author is famous enough, then he gets royalties too. But that's a very different fuckery on it's own.

>>151023698
Don't you fucking mention Nanasawa near Hakomari, that is an insult to Nanasawa.

>>151063082
>Nanasawa
Is this another overhyped writer? What's his best work?

>>151062975
You still don't fit in.Now fuck off from wherever shithole you came from.

>>151063399
Not really, all of his/her works have shoujo in the name and mentioned om and off in LN threads. People barely know Nanasawa nowadays ever since TL nuked the website for TLs.

>>151063570
Congratulations, you pulled the reddit/mal-boogeyman. Face it, the series is garbage. Fuck you.

>>151063631
Well, I'm gonna some because I don't remember the last time, if ever, I read a good LN with a female protag

Does /a/ like Hakomaria?

>>151020442
The problem is that there is no indication Yen Press as a company has increased in size yet they keep licensing more and more light novels.

Yen Press killed any possibility of a Strike the Blood fanbase in the West for example.

I would feel better about Yen Press mass licensing everything if I heard in a press report that Yen Press has hired like 1000 new Japanese to English translators

But such news has yet to be made by Yen Press or any news of a company size increase.

>>151066737
I like it so it is objectively the best thing to ever come out

>>151057396
>>151057494
Maybe in 2030, translation software will be so good that our 16K high resolution monitors will translate any foreign language in real time without any flaws.

>>151053012
>Kadokawa and Shueisha

That's where a huge chunk of the stuff is being published.

>>151047887
What about "Kasumi Mogi"?

>>151020442
So basically, anime never.

>>151055430
>Kadokawa was just going around pulling all their shit regardless of whether it was licensed or not
Campione isn't Kadokawa, it's Shueisha.

>>151054009
Not anyone relevant, but I worked for a German Publisher and we had to send every single cover and basic book layout + credits page to Japan for every volume. Sometimes they told us to do stupid shit like add another line at the top to make the page look better or change our icon on the cover for no reason.

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I'm fine with YP releasing stuff I've already read, it's nice to have a physical English book on my shelf.

It just gets really hard to keep thinking that when they change the names of important shit halfway through a series with no explanation.

>>151055720
Didn't Haganai get KO'd by a DMCA

>>151057780
>Profrssionals actually have red tape to cut through.
>professionals
Yeah NGNL sure was translated by a professional...

Couldn't they at least do 1 Volume per 3 months?

>>151024775
>normalfags love that shit
Most normalfags would drop it after 3 chapters.

Fuck Juden press for taking on series' like Mahouka that are already over 15 volumes in and taking years to translate.
[Can anybody give me a me a mega link for Black Bullet or Mahouka?]

>>151073955
>[Can anybody give me a me a mega link for Black Bullet or Mahouka?]
>>>/wsr/, Hans

>>151073069
They did issue a reprint for volume 1.

>>151074854
Right but how did it get printed like that to begin with? They apparently have no QC whatsoever.

>>151074854
How would I check if mine's the reprint or not? I haven't read it yet.

Is it worth a read ?
I don't know anything about this, i've only seen animesnob's video about it, he made it looks like it's a typical shitty light novel.

>>151058530
>third world country
>not buying Chinese localizations of light novels

>>151075852
Not sure whether there are any indications on the physical version's copyright page, but if your copy doesn't have any of these errors https://frogkun.com/2015/05/03/stay-away-from-the-no-game-no-life-english-novel/ then you have the reprint. I have an ebook copy with those fixed.

>>151076676
Looks like the exhibits A, D1 and E are intact. Now to just wonder how I would guarantee the fixed version in a future order.

What's the ISBN on your copy?

>>151076993
9780316385169, but it's the ebook version. Trade paperback ISBN should be 9780316383110.

I suppose I should clarify that in my copy only A, B, C, and D2 have been edited. D1 and E are exactly as they were.

>>151066802
>Yen Press killed any possibility of a Strike the Blood fanbase in the West for example.

Good, that series is literal garbage that only meme spouting fags enjoy.

>>151066802
>Yen Press killed any possibility of a Strike the Blood fanbase in the West for example.
Was the novel translation really progressing well before YP announced a license? Because I seem to recall barely a single volume had been translated.

https://twitter.com/yenpress/status/809860158595727360

>Fall 2017

See here, Yen Press's speed is okay once they actually get going. Three to four volumes a year is faster than the originals get released anyway usually.

It's not okay though that they take a whole year in between announcing license and actually releasing the first volume.

>>151077808
Probably because they fucked themselves and they have tons of shit to release. They could have done better without licensing alot of garbage.

Don't matter though series is done anyways

>>151077808
>Three to four volumes a year is faster than the originals get released anyway usually.
Because they are translating, not creating a work retard. Why would you even attempt this comparison? If they have good translators at an actual native level, they should be able to shit these things out at a decent rate if you actual they have a few decent editors as well.

3 to 4 volumes a year is still unacceptable for work that is behind. The only thing I see YP as is them as an attention whoring scanlator group that has 50 projects picked up at once.

>>151078703
>f they have good translators at an actual native level, they should be able to shit these things out at a decent rate if you actual they have a few decent editors as well.
Yes, which they would be able to do if they were doing digital only releases, like how J-Novel Club is currently doing. However they have to deal with all the overhead involved in print releases.

>The only thing I see YP as is them as an attention whoring scanlator group that has 50 projects picked up at once.
The difference is that they are going as fast per volume now that they have two dozen series as they were six years ago when they had three series.