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Don't forget we got thread on /c/ for picture dumps.

>>>/c/2795051

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Will humanity ever beat back the beta?

So I got a question.

Why is it that Beatrix and Irisdina are mostly equal to one another during their fights in Iris's route, but in Lise's route, Beatrix hands Iris her ass in under no time?

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Hey guys I'm getting the custom engraving from a dude how does it look?
1/2

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2/2
Looks cute but what else should I do?

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>>150327549
Depends on Kouki's mood that day.

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>>150327961
Beatrix was pulling her punches most of the time she was fighting Iris. Subconsciously, she doesn't actually want to kill Iris, which is why she didn't just execute her in Katia's route but kept her around so she could "see her victory". She even admits it in the end of Irisdina's route when she says that she'd wanted Iris as a friend, not an enemy.

Lise's route is different however, because Beatrix is fucking incensed at Irisdina after she shelled a residential area and injured/kill so many civilians in an attempt to kill her, so she takes off the kids gloves so to speak and goes in for the kill.

Beatrix is a really, really good pilot. She's like the Yuuko of TSF pilots, and would probably be around Yuuya's level. She's shown to easily juggle more then half of the 666th by her self in the VN (it really says something when some of the best pilots in Europe if not the world at that point of time are fucking terrified of fighting her), and has so much confidence in her skills that having her stay behind, alone, to cover the retreat of her battalion is a reasonable plan. The only thing that makes sense then is that she chooses not to fuck Iris up.

>>150328192
>>150328219
Looks ok.

Axe murderers need not apply.

>>150328310
>Beatrix is a really, really good pilot. She's like the Yuuko of TSF pilots, and would probably be around Yuuya's level. She's shown to easily juggle more then half of the 666th by her self in the VN (it really says something when some of the best pilots in Europe if not the world at that point of time are fucking terrified of fighting her), and has so much confidence in her skills that having her stay behind, alone, to cover the retreat of her battalion is a reasonable plan. The only thing that makes sense then is that she chooses not to fuck Iris up.

How much of that is her MiG-27, because it's not exactly impressive watching an operator with the latest in military gadgetry win against a bunch of kids armed with supersoakers.

>>150327961
Similar reason I guess that Ax's Berlin TSF wing is blown the fuck out in Katia and Iris routes but a harder opponent in Lise route. It's how the cards go down.

>>150328584
Earlier rebel support in the Lise route was the reason if I remember right.

>>150328310
>Beatrix is a really, really good pilot. She's like the Yuuko of TSF pilots, and would probably be around Yuuya's level.
Not really, she's good but she is nowhere near as good as Yuuya, Takeru or any of the other MCs. Its more that she has the technological advantage to give her an edge against pilots of similar skills. Especially, considering how each Generation of TSFs is basically a quantum jump in perofrmance compared to the previous one.

>>150328400
Look at >>150329167

Beatrix isn't actually that great of a pilot. She's more like a bully who relies mostly on intimidation, and she gets outsmarted and destroyed by actual soldiers.

It's pretty pathetic actually. Stick her in a MiG-21 and even Annet or Katia would give her a hard time.

>150329335
Nice Bait.

Reminder that Gretel is a useless whore bitch.

>>150329370
How did Theo beat her despite being in a shittier, more damaged machine then?

>>150328310
>Beatrix is fucking incensed at Irisdina after she shelled a residential area and injured/kill so many civilians in an attempt to kill her,
That's really hypocritical considering how Beatrix has spent a third of her life spilling innocent blood.

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>>150328400
It's an improvement, but it's not a vast improvement like what some people would have you believe. >>150329167 and >>150329335 are shitposters who don't know what they're talking about. The Mig-27 is still a Generation 1.5 TSF at best. It's not 2, that would be Mig-29s and Su-27s. In SM's time, the only Gen 2 TSF is the F-14, and the A-10, which is technically a TSA. Remember, in ML, the Mig-23 and 27 are derivatives from the F-5 line, so that's really the more appropriate base marker.

For way of comparison, watch Total Eclipse when they first roll into Kamchatka. That's a Mig-27 that is forced to crash like wet tissue paper after the battle.

Beatrix is one of the top pilots of the world during the time of SM. Actually, all of the 666th is too, they have years of battlefield experience. The Werewolves may not be as skilled as the 666th, but one of their trumps is Beatrix, whose skill level is insanely high.

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YAMATO DAMASHI

>>150330302
>all of the 666th is too
>who is Gretel
Lets be honest, Anon. And lets not forget Lise who regularly tears her way through enemy tsf after tsf 21's and 23's alike, Beatrix isn't the only Werewolf with a frightening skill level.

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>>150330542
I don't consider Gretel part of the 666th, she's just their shit commissar, though that speaks volumes about the Party if she's the best they have. While she's attached to their unit, she has a different chain of command track.

But assuming you're the Lisefag who hates Beatrix, Lise is not that great. Her beating Gretel easily is a show of how shit tier Gretel is, that's not a demonstration of particular skill. One of Theo's jobs out in combat is he has to babysit Gretel, and still do his mission.

Looking at the anime, Lise LOOKS skilled because Gretel and Theo are ever only her real opposition. Theo is severely holding back his true skill when he faces her, even with the anime confabulation of that idiotic 'trap'. And when it comes to BETA fighting, Lise is just average at it. Even Katia is better than her at that.

And it's no surprise either she's good at TSF vs TSF combat since that's the bulk of her experience in the Werewolves. But even then, she's not any better than any of the 666th, minus say, Katia, who's more or less a newbie. "Regularly tears her way through enemy TSFs" is way overblowing it. A more accurate example is her own route, where she's about as good as the rest of the team, and then gets blasted.

On melee skills, she's better than the average in the Werewolves, but still behind Farka, who is very far behind Anette and Theo.

I'm not saying she's shit, but she's not even a direct squadron lead in the Werewolves. And if it's anti-BETA, she had to go through the TSF equivalent of remedial training, since if she'd went without that, she'd have been fried by a Laser well before final approach during her first battle.

>>150330769
>Farka, who is very far behind Anette and Theo.
Farka destroys Annet when they 1v1 in the LNs, and they're pretty equal for the most part in the VN.

>>150330795
She's holding back dude. When Anette really steps up, even without meaning to, she saws through Farka.

>>150330519
>you will never be as happy as Yui when she found out about her long lost half brother

>>150330769
No I'm not the Lisefag who hates Beatrix, nor do I have to be a Lisefag to point out the objective fact that everytime she engages an enemy tsf that is not one of a few main characters she dismantles them rather quickly, she blows through several Berlin faction 23's in her route, I don't see where Katia is shown to be better at BETA fighting when they've both saved each other's lives at different points, Farka is not at all "far behind" Anette and Theo, neither is Lise, let alone Lise being behind Farka don't know where you're getting that, and for your example in her route she gets hit by a hidden ambush of rebel RPGs not other tsfs. You're the one seriously underestimating her skill.

>>150330769
Lise is also shown to be on par with the other 666th in anti-BETA by operation Neptune in the first VN, one of the wessie pilots even comments on that. Include that with the majority of her experience being anti-tsf and her climbing the ranks as fast as she did, yeah she's better overall than most of the 666th.

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>>150327961
Because in one route she is fighting for real since she can still win and in other two she just wants to die in a way that its not a death sentence by moderates Kangaroo court.

>>150331045
You clearly missed where she was being handheld still during Neptune. She's good, and she would have been recruited for the 666th if she had shown up in the NVA roster, but that's more because they were running out of good pilots - that's purely how Katia got on the team in the first place. So in their prime, Lise would have been with a regular TSF batallion and not them. The 666th is the top of the top, all of them have been with the unit for a long while now. Very few pilots can keep up with their tempo of operations. Hell, during the rebellion they're so shortstaffed they have to dip into the training battalions.

>>150331622
You'll have to point it out because I don't remember her being handheld more than anyone else, I do remember her saving Katia though. I also remember her leading a charge against BETA near the beginning of Martyrs and doing quite well for herself, even ramming and taking out a fortress class to get Theo clear.

That said had a majority of Lise's career been spent BETA fighting rather than tsfs, given her learning curve she would have no doubt been a top candidate for the 666th by 1983.

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>>150328344
Well too bad. She's here.

>>150331768
She wouldn't do anything to me if I tried to headpat her, right?

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>>150332174

>>150332174
Just don't touch the ahoge and the hime-cut. Those are razor sharp.

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Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mG3BvkT6YQ

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>>150332174
Are you Hibiki?

Then it's okay.

>>150332646
Why is that long-lost relative of Leatherface looking at him like that? He doesn't seem meaty enough for her.

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>>150331622
Lise is a really good pilot though. She caught up to the 666th's speed in relatively short time(and much shorter time piloting at all then many of them), has shown to be in a whole different league than most other pilots when it comes to tsfvtsf combat, is a first lieutenant in the 101st and we all know Beatrix rewards based on proven skill, she's probably Beatrix's best fighter, and only ever lost a duel because Theo is a freak of nature at CQC(that and the bizarre trap in the anime). Had her area of expertise been different I doubt she would have been in a regular tsf batallion and not something like the 666th even without the shortages of pilots.

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>one of the most attractive girls in Muv-Luv
>nearly no fans
This is weird

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>>150332953
Shame

>>150332953
Blondes are shit.

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>>150332953
I like to think somewhere up there, Chesty is proud of her.

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>>150333858
Don't forget our Lord and Savior, James "Mad Dog" Mattis.

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>>150333934
Yes, Chesty the Father and Mattis the Son. The Corps' lords.

That would make Smedley Butler the Holy Spirit?

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God bless America

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>>150327549
Well, part of what spurned the development of 3rd Gen TSFs was that an American general who spearheaded the project noted that with the introduction and then wide procurement of 2nd Gen TSFs and other anti-BETA weaponry and tactics, an eventual stabilization of the situation in Europe and at the borders of Africa, that humanity would be victorious in some thirty years or so. With that, America needed a jump in TSF technology to both accelerate the BETA's defeat, and to deal with what would be the postwar situation.

Basically, whenever the end of the war is, America will be utterly exhausted because it's dedicated everything to supplying and manufacturing everything for the world, and been fighting the longest. And other nations will have giant G-Element deposits.

>>150334685
SSR when?

>>150334622
Yes, with Dan Daly being its prophet.

>>150333934
>google this guy
>turns out he's being considered for drumpf's cabinet
Yeah, nope.

>>150335340
>saying no to Mattis
I'm not sure what to say to you son.

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>>150335340
>assblasted libtard gets triggered by any sort of connection to Trump
I'm neither a Marine or a Trump supporter, just an airman. But Mattis would make our military focused on killing our enemies again, instead of experimenting whether females can make it in the infantry or special ops units and other politically correct "progressive" measures.

Many people seem to forget that the military's number one priority should be combat/operational readiness, not a dog and pony show about how diverse and tolerant we are. And I say that as a non-white.

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>>150334685
God bless indeed. America, her beautiful, fair, VAST lands, may they ever prosper.

>>150335340
>hating Mattis

How does it feel to be a literal faggot? And a heathen. They're not joking when they say he's USMC Jesus.

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>>150334685
Why did Yuuya break it off with this wonderful girl again? It was because he was 'exiled' to Alaska, right, and he figured he couldn't take care of her properly so far away?

>>150327961
Well Beatrix IS better than Iris, but also in Lise's route, oftentimes Beatrix got the jump on Iris. Mainly because Iris goes into an emotionally unstable flying rage after Theo whenever she sees him. Or sounds as icy/cruel as she possibly can, barely hiding her rage and tears. Theo's 'defection' hurt her a lot harder than she lets on. It makes her not see so clearly during TSF fights, hence not even seeing Beatrix swooping in to defend Theo.

It's just how it goes down man. There seems to be a lot of RNGesus going on in between the routes when it comes to combat.

>>150337351
its no RNG its just what plot demands it to be.

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>>150334685
This harms the Yui!

>>150337439
That is fair to say too

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>>150337561
What doesn't bully the Yui?

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>>150330608
>you will never personally induct BiS Iris into the Stasi
Hurts almost as bad as not being able to brainwash BiS Ursula and loli Lise.

>>150332785
The real question is, would Lise sans-Stasi indoctrination be a good candidate for Iris' plotting?

>>150336896
I don't think he even knows anything about Mattis, he just saw that Drumpf wants him as SECDEF and had a kneejerk reaction. Typical for someone who drank the media's kool-aid.

>>150339069
Kirke is ugly and dumb!

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Beatrix is evil, disgusting and can't cook!

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PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpzcU0wsKac

>>150329961
Just goes to show what Beatrix would have prefered had she actually had a choice in the matter.

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>>150335340
Look at this degenerate. How does it feel to know that your movement's days are numbered?

>>150339714
Yeah, because anime Beatrix crushes testicles to make her cakes.

>>150339714
Beatrix was honestly more fun and interesting when she was evil. I hate how the VN has made her so noble or moral, to the point where she gets upset at the rebels for collateral damage rather then causing it and then taunting the heroes about it.

LN Beatrix>Anime Beatrix>Shit>VN Beatrix

>>150340940
You forgot your ">".

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I am going to marry this zampolit

>>150341091
Like she will marry you she already has Martin.

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>>150335340
>shitting on Mattis

People like you are why terrorists win.

>>150341162
What a lucky guy

So with Beatrix and Irisdina, who is the Sumika and who is the Meiya?

>>150341858
its not that simple.

>tfw waiting for Sylwia birthday and art
It will happen, right?

>>150341858
Beatrix would be the Sumika.

Really though, it's better to compare them to Yuuko and Marimo, and even age polls will categorize Beatrix with Yuuko and Iris with Marimo.

>>150343442
>Beatrix would be the Sumika.
The only similarity she has with sumika is her devotion to her lover. Everything else is completely different so i don't know how you came to that conclusion.

>>150341858
Beatrix and Irisdina are Yuuko and Marimo, all other comparisons of that kind to trilogy characters don't come close enough. And devotion like Beatrix's is rather common in ML, so the Sumika comparison doesn't work well.

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What would Beatrix's reaction have been if that rebel never opened his mouth and she'd converted Irisdina over to her side?

Reminder to never put your faith in cockroaches.

>>150344258
>Holy shit, that was easier then I though. Why did I never consider doing this before?
>Followed by some smug and happy joke/banter towards Irisdina, like "I knew you'd see things my way."
>Then they'd go back and fuck Schmidt and Axmann up after the BETA are dealt with.

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>>150344258

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>>150344337
>and Axmann
Already taken care of.

>>150344258
>>150344356
I think it's funny that healanon turned out to be right about Beatrix/Irisdina.

>>150344464
About the fact that Iris was more resentful of Bea than Bea of Iris, and that making up would make them both happy? Its pretty funny alright.

>>150344258
I think it would have been better had Beatrix swapped sides instead. She and Iris would have been poised to take over the new government without all the pushback and resistance from the masses. Beatrix could very easily steer the new government towards a more pragmatic policy, while she had Katia to inspire people and deflect criticism. Heim would be easy to manipulate, and Suzy isn't as intelligent as she is ruthless. Also, if Beatrix joined the rebellion, she'd take a significant chunk of the loyalist with her, which wouldn't happen with Iris and the rebels if she jumped ship, therefor negating a lot of the issues they had down the line.

It'd also just be interesting to see everyone, even Iris, do a collective WTF.

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Beatrix "hitori bocchi" Brehme

>>150344731
Why are lips so repulsive?

>>150344755
Why are you such a faggot?

>>150344755
It has to do with you having a shit taste and not realizing thick lips are superior for blowjobs.

>>150344816
>blowjobs
Degeneracy.

>>150344858
>not liking blowjobs

faggotry

>>150344858
Eunuch.

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>>150344755
Because the anime sucks at drawing her lips.

>>150344816
Her lips are about as thick as Irisdina's, it's just she wears lipstick while Iris does not.

>kinslayer
>traitor
>failure
>idiot
Irisdina deserves a lethal injection.

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>>150344935
>Her lips are about as thick as Irisdina's, it's just she wears lipstick while Iris does not.
Not in the LN at least, even acounting for the expression Iris is making in the pic. Its arguable in the VN, but Beatrix's lips are meant to be always more noticeable, with or without lipstick.

>>150345150
Trash girls.
Needs Lise to make the trifecta of terrible girls complete.

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>>150345150
Not really.

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>>150345221
>13 year olds are comparable to 23 year olds.
Lets post them at 18, where Beatrix's lips are clearly noticeable without makeup and Iris' aren't.

>>150345221
>bundesadler

why?

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>>150345333

Howabout this picture then?

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>>150345431
>Howabout this picture then?
Semi-official art isn't canon anon. Butdo you want to keep fighting over that one little detail? Because a good look at the BiS Vol.1 pictures makes me take back my point about 13 year old Bea =/= to 18/23 year old Bea on that matter, she always has more noticeable lips than Iris at all ages,with or without makeup. Exceptions exist, but are not the rule.

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>>150345639
Iris always had thin lips. Beatrix and Sylwia have thick lips, but Beatrix is noticeably thinner looking without the lipstick.

>>150345758
>from "Iris and Beatrix have lips the same thickness" to "Beatrix without lipstick looks far thinner".
I believe were done here.

>>150345881
I'm a different guy.

>>150345758
>>150345639
>>150345333
>>150345221
>>150345195
>>150345150
>>150344935
you are fighting over a retarded thing.
Its not lipstick. my proof? its the same color they use for everyone lips.

>>150345995
>Its not lipstick. my proof?
The LN states she wears lipstick, and it's the thing Theo fixates on her over.

>>150344676
This is probably the only opportunity for a real 'good end'. Stasi hierarchy removed from power, majority of 666th and Werewolves still alive, Beatrix to focus the anti-BETA efforts after the coup.

>>150346040
don't remember anything like that. i what volume is that?

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>>150327010
Chobi is tiny! Tiny!

>>150346274
That only shows how much of a failure Monica is.

More BiS spoilers.

>劇透文成為潮流真是太棒了w 自己啃原文實在太累

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>貝姐是正統權三代+紅色貴族，但她厭惡這身分並投身有如一次次自殺般的淒美跳水

>貝姐與哥哥為外交官子女，父母常不在家習於獨立自主，母親外遇導致離婚父親借酒澆愁喝到發瘋，愛哥從此對母親心有嫌戲

>妹控愛哥因妹妹與新同學貝姐搭檔比雙人跳水而簽上，思想開放的血統不時產生摩擦卻被要求交往w 考取飛行員後與貝姐家長達成協議，已讓叛逆的女兒留下無遺憾的青春交換協助保護獨居的愛姐，1973年beta來襲使一切變調

>空軍式微轉至發展TSF的陸軍，由凱蒂雅爸送至蘇聯學習，死黨卡蔡(麵包店之子)會連攜偷襲、魏克曼(柔道女選手)格鬥OP、約克(格鬥課同學)中庸不屑偷襲 F-4機體太過笨重，關閉AI又不穩 蘇聯以人海遲滯再核平的戰術也大有問題，TSF只做機動防禦太可惜，光線獵殺等戰術嘗試也都在重金屬雲中不明不白的失敗

>歸國後建立TSF部隊並改革機體與戰術，對於Mig-21的性能大為讚賞，於國會推廣TSF礙到部分高層、妹妹與女友還吵著要當衛士(從軍就是要妹妹遠離戰爭...) 蘇聯見有利可圖大為支持，成功研發強化通訊的PF隊長機，但依舊聯繫不上基地

>蘇聯需支援，漢尼拔勸觀望等PF改裝並訓練完成，被妹妹們說服志向 配合凱蒂雅爸的支援在陸軍側翼成功獵殺光線級，卻因太保守而損失慘重，受貝姐與凱爸鼓勵 同時崛起的海因茲提倡建立史塔西TSF部隊

What we can glean is that Iris had a controlling relationship with Jurgen before Beatrix came along.

Beatrix wanted to kill herself to get away from her father.

The tapes were meant for Jurgen's lover.

Jurgen developed the MiG-21/21PF because the F-4 was too heavy and held him back. Hannibal helped Jurgen with the PF.

Iris became enamored with Katia's father while Beatrix's father attempts to set her up with Heinze Axmann (probably disproves of Jurgen). Abel is the big pusher of the stasi getting a TSF squadron, and worked with Ketchup to make it happen. Ketchup wanted to be the captain of the Werewolves (but Jurgen likely snapped it away from him from the chapter 10 summary).

Beatrix pushes Jurgen more towards reform through the stasi while Iris pushes him towards the NVA.

Alfred isn't a great general, and he was far too conservative and proud (probably why he and Jurgen argued so much), which leads to heavy casualties for his soldiers.

>>150346416
got more?

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>>150346367

>>150346416
>Alfred isn't a great general, and he was far too conservative and proud (probably why he and Jurgen argued so much), which leads to heavy casualties for his soldiers.
Only this is really new.
>Beatrix's father attempts to set her up with Heinze Axmann (probably disproves of Jurgen).
He did offer Jürgen Bea's hand in marriage in exchange for joining the Werewolves, so its more likely that he is playing Axmann vs. Jürgen, in order to see who is more useful in the end.

>>150346502
>>150346416
Link to the link that will take you to the blog:
http://pastebin.com/ZS4XkdVW

Fucking 4chan and it's spam detection algorithm. I can't even cut up the address and link it here without my post being:

>Error: Our system thinks your post is spam. Please reformat and try again.

I don't understand why anything with game or gamer in it's address gets flagged.

>>150346367
What the hell is up with this Monica not fucking her brother meme?

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>>150346827
Chobi has her outmanouvered, for now.

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>>150346759
thank you very much.

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>>150347047
>Neinneinneinnein

>>150346909
Yeah, but why would she want to fuck her brother anyway?

>>150347214
The meme started because of one of her last lines in Rain Dancers. It could easily be interpreted as her being into her brother, though it was probably just banter.

>>150347214
If VG was my brother I'd want to fuck him.
No homo.

>>150347282
that's very homo anon.

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>>150347282

>>150347332
But he's gorgeous.

>>150347365
i guess that makes you gay or bi. good luck anon. i'm sure your father will be proud.

>>150346416
>蘇聯需支援，漢尼拔勸觀望等PF改裝並訓練完成，被妹妹們說服志向 配合凱蒂雅爸的支援在陸軍側翼成功獵殺光線級，卻因太保守而損失慘重，受貝姐與凱爸鼓勵 同時崛起的海因茲提倡建立史塔西TSF部隊
>Abel supported Axmann and was responsible for protecting him and giving him power.
>He also wanted Axmann to be the one boning his daughter and was just using Jurgen.

Abel seems to be one of the worst people in Schwarzesmarken. I'm genuinely angry at him for all of this and happy that Beatrix will probably murder him.

Muv Luv Alternative on Steam WHEN?!?! Have they said anything about it? It was supposed to be out in, like, October?

>>150347532
>Abel "Oceania was not opressive enough" Brehme
>Not the root of all the misery, pain and suffering in SM
Pick one.

>>150347619
for age you have to add +1 year to their releases.

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>>150347619

>>150347632
The worst thing is is that from the other spoilers, he knows how shitty things are and even strings Jurgen along with his talks of needing to reform or democratize the system so that they'll be more successful like the West even while he manipulates the stasi, giving them more power and has fucking Axmann as his protege. He's a fucking bad guy, and I feel terrible for everyone who got caught in his web. Like I said, the only silver lining is that he'll die by the end of the story.

>>150347425
Well, so be it then.
He's up there with Beatrix and Yuuko to me in terms of beauty.

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>>150347667
Alright, I can deal with another 3 months I suppose.

I wonder how much more it'll take for PhotonMelodies/Memories. What we really want are the untranslated games, and those will take even longer, but at least it seems like we'll get to play the TDAs within our mortal lifetimes, I suppose.

>>150347810
what do you think about axmanns fuck boi?

>>150347834
He's cute but he's still a cunt working for Axmann willingly, so that diminishes it.

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>>150341858
SM has not one, but TWO Sumikas with both Katia and Lise fulfilling aspects of her. Really, Irisdina and Beatrix are more like Marimo and Yuuko.

>>150347650
>>for age you have to add +10 years to their release
Fixed.

>>150348162
But Alternative only got delayed 3 Years.

>>150346416
>>150346545
So I'm imagining that Alfred is one of the reasons why Beatrix hates the NVA and calls them out on their incapability to adapt. I could just imagine Jurgen coming back to her one day from the front and telling her about how half of his friends died because some stupid general too set in his ways ignored all the warnings and deployed their TSFs wrong.

Really makes you wonder who got closer to the truth, as Iris still really looks up to Alfred while Beatrix hates his, and anyone connected to him, guts.

>>150348401
It would also explain her aversion towards nukes. The Soviets put up a nuclear Minefield, Jürgen's unit gets deployed near it, it fails to slow the BETA down, Jürgen complains to his superiors, nothing happens. Cue Beatrix getting a letter where Jürgen complains about how useless Nukes are.

>>150335359
>>150335555
>>150336896
>>150340690
>>150341251
I'm waiting to see why he's so amazing that you all are sucking his cock.

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>>150345639
>>150345758
Her lips aren't too big here.

>>150348762
>Exceptions exist, but are not the rule.
And do we really need to keep discussing Bea's lips?

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>>150348848
Yes, because they are really nice lips.

>>150349048
Really? Because I can't tell without them around my dick.

So now that the dust has settled from the VN, what is the consensus on Beatrix, Lise, Theo, Katia, and Irisdina?

>>150349426
the dust will never settle.

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What do you guys think about Jurgen and a possible game from his perspective?

>>150349929
Fucking Germans, always digging holes in beaches.

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>>150349929
>>150349970

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>>150343414
I don't think Sylwia made it to the top 3, did she?

>>150346274
Stella, and her kindness, is too vast, that's whats up. Tarisa is a good girl too, don't bully. She has other assets!

>>150347214
Incest is love, haven't you noticed so far?

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>>150349426
The dust NEVER settles. If anything, it's gotten more intense at times.

>>150347820
TDAs are translated for at least quite a part. SM and TE have zero translation on em. It's crazy in both cases because not only for the former is the anime completely fucking different, but in the latter, the anime only covered the first 1/2 of the game and there was tons of contextual stuff and scenes not in.

>>150346416
So Alfred was as stupid as his daughter ultimately?

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>>150352193
Pretty much, it seems. And considering he was considered one of the best.

Communism is the very definition of failure.

>>150352491
I think it's more that he gets romanticized by everyone who isn't Beatrix/Jurgen. Gretel thinks he's a hero and is very charismatic in her side story for instances.

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>you will never goto the beach with ML girls

What's the point of continuing?

>>150349929
Not likely. Plus they may be thinking of moving onto something completely different.

>>150349970
Does that go for Ilfriede and company too?

>>150346416
I think it's ironic that no matter what, a Brehme will always be the main villain of SM.

シュヴァケン あんまおもしろくなかったな。海王星作戦が最強なだけだった。普通に小説読めって感じあったけどそんな熱量もねえなこれ。

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Bea is for _________.

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>>150355491
Impregnating.

>>150355491
headpatting

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>>150355562

>>150343414
GK please if you read this doodle Sylwia with a party hat

Beatrix is kind of a one-note villain in the original novels.

Now that I’m reevaluating Beatrix as a character, it occurs to me that she and Axemann are set up to represent different types of evil. Beatrix is someone who believes wholeheartedly in what she is doing – it’s just what she is doing is pure evil. Axemann, however, has no ideology. He seeks only to gain power for himself. He was part of the Stasi because he held power there. When things went south, he sought an alliance with the revolution, extracting a promise that he would be part of their new government. When it looked like they were going to lose, he threw in with Beatrix and the Moscow faction. And when the people started to rise up against them, he hoped to seek refuge with the CIA. He has no cause – he will serve whoever will keep him in power. So there’s something to think about: who is the greater evil? The one who devotes herself mind and soul to evil? Or the one who serves, but has no loyalty to, an evil cause?

>>150352644
Pump and dump the bridge bunnies

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>>150357693
>this pasta again

>>150357809
Don't you find it just slightly funny how much Type-94 has been BTFO since the VN came out.

>>150357856
Did he posted anything about Martyrs?

>>150358011
Nope. He might be butthurt like Kiminozo Guy was when he commented on SM, because that was his last entry concerning it.

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You can save one of them.

Do you save the cowardly kin slayer, or the suicidal mass murderer?

>>150358613
I choose you

>>150358844
Intelligent reply anon. Really enlightening.

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I can't wait for her figure to come out.

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>>150361240
Didn't her figure come out months ago?

>>150361356
March but preorders have been up for a while now.

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Anyone got the other Kirke CG where she's putting on her suit?

>>150355491
Loving!

>>150357856
Eternally. Which is good.

>>150358613
Save both. The only true choice.

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>>150361643
It was something like pic-related but I can't seem to find it even though I damn sure remember saving it.

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>>150362204

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>>150362228
You're a life-saver.

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>>150362253

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>>150362306
I had the segmented version of this saved so I owe you thanks for this one too.

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>>150361356
>>150361240
How many pumps would you be able to give this cute aryan before filling her up with your seed?

http://i.imgur.com/xSWrfnw.jpg

Hard mode: She hugs your head against her breast, whimpering as she wraps her legs around you. She then pulls you up and locks her lips against yours, like she wants to devour your face. You can feel every moan of hers in your mouth and her sharp, rapid, warm nasal exhalations against your cheek as you stare into her glistening, tear streaked blue eyes.

>>150362495
None, because she'd ring me and I don't want that.

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>>150362495
As long as she leg locks me on our wedding night, I have no problems.

>>150362495
I'd masturbate before hand so I last longer. There isn't going to be any of that two pumps done shit for me.

So would Beatrix and Iris be equal in bed, though?

>>150355491
Marriage.

>>150349929
>as if BiS will ever come out from that eternal Hiatus
;_;

>>150362808
They'd be about equal, but Beatrix would be better at sexual banter and kissing.

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What's the next qt to make guys? Super pumped.

>>150363742
Marimo.

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>>150362495
Don't think I'd last long. Even without hard mode, I want to save her so bad. Having her be so vulnerable would be hard.

I'd use the pure love to keep going though, well after the body should have expired.

Only Theo knows for sure though.

>>150362808
>>150363133
Well it depends. On her first night, and the vulnerable nights, she'd be even more teary and clingy than Iris.

Now for hard mode - what would Anette be like?

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>>150363742
Very nice. I like it.

Maybe Stella? She has nice, clean lines.

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Is there anyone here man enough to marry Marimo?

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>>150365820
I would definitely offer myself.

She really seems rather nice. Don't get why wanting to bang turns so many people off. Is it because she can also beat you up?

So could Suzy, and yet one of our Stasi bishies submits to her faster than he can say uncle.

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>>150366979
He probably thinks Suzy is a man. She's so much of a butch dyke it's a common mistake.

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>>150367063
>says the Gretelfag

Suzy has 10x the sex appeal compared to fucking Gretel.

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>>150367672
>suzy
>sex appeal

>>150367672
Simone is the only rebel with any sex appeal and that's mostly fluffy hair.

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>>150367711
You're telling me you wouldn't fuck this? Wouldn't give this creature a hug?

Yes she's a bit wild, but if you feel she's a bit lacking in feminine graces, you can always shove her into a frilly dress like Pham would.

>>150362495
Is that OC?

>>150368531
I'd rather unload hot lead on her

>>150368681
It's Iris

>>150364930
Any more good pics of her?

>>150368737
Yeah, but is the picture itself OC?

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>>150369038
Pic related

>>150369161
Obviously not

>>150368737
I'd rather mindbreak her and make my maid.

>>150369230
Then who is the artist?

>>150369230
Its gonna be pretty small like 3"x3" other cute ones like this? :3

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxcs9aEUUAAReEy.jpg

Yuuya's pretty big down there. Does he ever put it in her or is this as far as it goes?

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>>150369291
The anon who did lewd art of Beatrix earlier.

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>>150369038
It's more a question of if there AREN'T any good pics of her.

>>150368737
>>150369233
What's wrong with you people.

>>150369798
It goes in.
>half asian
>being this big
Only in animu

>>150370051
Post CG pls

>>150370174
Some anon posted a twitter link of screenshots last thread. I didn't save any.

>>150370216
I don't see any twitter links in the last thread.

>>150370265
Probably /m/. It's quite recent.

>>150370304
Ah, that one. That's from her other card. I'm looking for more from her first card.

>>150370357
Wasn't >>150369798 from the second card?

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Moar Stellaball

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This thread lacks Meiya

>>150369981
Whats a good phrase to accompany this pic if engraved?

>>150370439
I want to be suffocated by that ass

>>150370586
Mana-sama > Meiya

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>>150370439
Yes.

>>150369798
Jesus fucking Christ, Yuuya what are you doing?!

>>150370598
I just thought of the perfect one! What do you think of it?

>It'll only hurt at first

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>>150369798

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Post your Stella's in /c/ thread dudes .

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WHEN WILL THERE BE SHARON'S CARD

WHEN DAMMIT

Hell, when will they finish TE and do the routes like there were supposed to?

>>150371590
SOON-ish

Why does Irisdina suck so much?

>>150369798
he put in it and in the last scene Cryska appears and start madding, but it's just a delusion of Stella and Vincent that are making fun of Yuuya

>>150372797
Filthy protestant

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>>150371707
How soon is now?

>>150372896
>but it's just a delusion of Stella and Vincent that are making fun of Yuuya
Wat

>>150373381
Go away you favela dwelling Catholocuck.

>>150371052
>she will never get truly drunk

>>150373556
>How soon is now?
eventually

also, hues are more into televangelists now

>>150373556
How soon until SM cards?

>>150376160
Not soon enough.

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我的女神啊，需要拿什么去拯救妳

>>150376402
That Chinaman knows what's good

>>150376402
下点药催眠暗示自己是尤尔根

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>>150376402
>>150376465
你女神被人捅了，你造吗？

>>150376537
I didn't stab Bea-sama. Or am I misunderstanding your question.

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>>150376160
Nips are hoping by the end of the year.

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>>150377175
They're doing all the TDA girls first.

Aグループ


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>>150377572
Katia, Cui, and Mana will win.

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>>150377572
>Tekkumen
I can't believe that's an option.

Tarisa looks and acts like a boy, I don't know what VG saw in her.

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>>150378844

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>>150378844

>>150378928
Niiiiiiiiiiice

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>>150379053

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>>150378928
>>150379073

>>150378844
As a good catholic he is into little boys from 3rd world nations

>>150378844
>>150378928
>>150379073
Delicious brown.

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BROWN ABS

>>150380133
I bet it would feel good to punch every girl who wears glasses, so their glasses shatter and scar their faces.

>>150380261
Where did this come from?

>>150380261
why don't just throw acid to them?

>>150380298
His latent homosexuality

>>150380313
Isn't it prayer time Akhbar?

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>>150380529
>TE
>Very aware of the sexiness of its cast and them running around in latex armor
>Too much fanservice, to the point that they blew their money load all over it

>SM
>Mostly ignores the sexiness of its cast, and even tries to minimize the sexiness of its two biggest semen demons to be more serious
>No fanservice, outside of Katia and Kirke, which no one asked for

Can't there be a happy middle ground?

>>150380815
No

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>>150380815
>which no one asked for
No one?

>>150380815
Fuck you, the anime could have done with more Katia/Grete/Kirke ass, not less.

>>150380815
Official sexiness ranking: Kirke=Gretel>Lise>Katia=Annet>Pham>Inghilde>Iris>Sylwia>Beatrix

Anime has god tastes in girls.

>>150381096
You're baiting it wrong.

>>150381096
Personally I'd swap around Gretel and Anette, and Inghilde and Pham.

>>150381096
>Beatrix
Even as a bait...

>>150381096
>Sylwia
I know this is bait, but I'm really rustled.
Good job.

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>>150380967
Katiabutt, Gretelbutt, Kirkebutt, but not enough succubutt.

>>150381646
>Katiabutt
What butt?

>>150381343
She has a flat ass, and her lips and eyes look ugly.

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>>150381726
>flat ass
Brazil, please

>the rest
GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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>>150381792
She looked pretty off in most of her scenes.

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>>150381792
She has a flat ass according to this.

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>>150382120
>that
>flat
You really don't want to be taken seriously

>>150381096
The anime art is garbage though, everything is blurry as fuck. In any case, Beatrix's eyes and hair are her charm points, you assfaggot.

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>>150382401
I always thought it was her everything, from her looks, to her personality, to her background.

>>150327010
I thought Schwarzesmarken was a bit shite, is the other one any better?

>>150384252
Depends. What did you dislike about SM?

How do you trick Sylwia into tying you up and beating you?

>>150384363
Mainly that it felt rushed, characters weren't developed very well.

>>150384511
TE has the opposite problems then. It's too slow and takes too long to pick up, but it handles its rebel arc way better then SM does, and even humanizes the antagonists so you could see where they're coming from save for Theodor, who they turned into a Bond villain.

>>150384105
>>150382218
She was one of the worst things about the anime.

>>150384105
I like you. From a purely visual PoV her hair and eyes are what stand out to me though. she also has rocking tits and waist

Can Farka be cute?

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>>150385837
Well?

>>150386443
>doasyoulike
Well, she asked for it,
Time for headpats

>>150386443
get her some medical attention

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>>150385867
Can Farka contain herself around Lise after you slip aphrodisiacs into her food and resist the urge to strip her senpai down for a tonguebath?

>>150386789
Now I want to see creepy, rapey, slightly drooling Farka.

>>150386901
Cute Pham!

>>150386789
What would Lise do if Farka threaten Theo at gun point for wanting to steal sempai from her?

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>>150387315
>threatening Theo at gunpoint in front of Lise
>hfw

Bad idea.

>>150387315
Beat Farka into submission until she agrees to film their Sex tape, but then invites her for a threesome after a while.

>>150387486
>Beat Farka into submission
That's what I want to do. Anett too.

>>150386901
Noice.

What happens if you become BiS Iris' boyfriend and show her that you really love her?

>>150387722
see >>150362495

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>>150376402
Someone should add tears to this.

>>150377355
Wait, so is Hibiki the protag they're using for TDA cards then?

>>150378844
She's a nice girl you dork. Loving girl too. Stop picking on her, you're making her cry!

And the sex is very raw.

>>150384252
It depends. Some people bitch about everything after the first two episodes, and some love it all, and some people bitch about everything but the first two episodes. Overall, I say you should watch it.

Most normies are the former.

>>150388349
Your pic isn't a really good considering she looks like a boy there.

>>150388349
>TDA protag not Hibiki
Who else?

>>150388574

Not true.

Boys don't cry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqSkiGwm_10

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So why didn't he just take her prisoner? Isn't shooting an unarmed, wounded captive like a crime or something?

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>>150388574
Oh look here cocksucker, Tarisa is a good girl, and a girly girl at that. It's not her fault that in a world of titty monsters, she got the unlucky draw. But then again, for people of certain tastes, it's not an unlucky draw at all.

>>150390191
Forced drama.

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>>150390191
Theo doesn't show take prisoners.

>>150390539
He takes Lise prisoner in the LN/VN katiaroute. That time its actually Suzy pulling the warcrime fuckery.

>>150390579
I'm just saying that it's in character for him to execute rather then capture. Lise should be an exception however.

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>>150390539
The state, the Stasi shouldn't be upset. They're the ones who made him like this. An orphan because of a neglected, unreliable in the eyes of the state clan. Purged the only family he ever knew. Forced him to survive by sending the politically suspect on more dangerous tasks. Keeping him at paranoia's edge into insanity for the better part of some years.

The collar only had to come off.

>>150391554
Beatrix reaped what she sowed; how karmic.

>>150391672
Lise din sow nuffin

>>150391672
Name one evil thing she did that wasn't under orders from above from the VN. She was born into the Stasi, the problem was the system, not her.