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How does a 70 year old have that firm and juicy of an ass?
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>>150279885
Hamon is slow to leave his organism
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>>150279885
>>>/fit/
Enigma unraveled.
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>>150280001
>Ripple
>Still looks 70

Something doesn't add up.
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>>150279885
English genetics
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>>150279905

I actually like the idea of having such an overpowered stand wasted on him, but it would've been nice to see him defeating some villains on his own. RHCP was the perfect arc for that
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>>150280065
He stoped his training after Kars
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>>150280017
But even /fit/ 70 year olds have some sag to them.
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>>150280111
The idea is not bad but there were so many time whe he had no excuses not to at least try and fail to use The Hand
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Damo is the best minor villain.
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>>150279885
By being best JoJo.
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>>150280243
I agree, I liked him a lot. He should have been the whole minor villain cast in Part 3.
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Unpopular opinionS
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Do you have a confession to make, anon?
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>>150280336
I think your plan made no sense
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>>150280325
jolyne is worst
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>>150280336

Priest... I... had weird thoughts aboud Doppio
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>>150279741
There's a panel in DMQ where Kira monologues about wanting to draw flowers. I wonder if in life he drew. Guess it wouldn't be too hard. At least his models would stay still.

>>150280243
Damo is cool as fuck and I think the Vit C fight in the house is one of the best drawn too. Has rhat body horror from part 6 with the clean art from 8. The close ups of Fruitdad were brutal.

>>150280336
I would rather be a Ghost than a stand user or a Rock
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>>150279885
literally built for rape
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>>150279885
That's where he keeps his asspulls and ruses.
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>>150279885
does oldseph ever do anything else in DiU? Each week I hope for even a modest appearance.
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Because he has the body of a 40 year old there
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>>150280325
Part 3 has the most well designed stands, followed by Part 4, Echoes was a bit weak. Everything else is shitty digimon homo garbage that reflects the awful boy band aesthetic that has plagued Part 5 and onwards.
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>>150280412
>There's a panel in DMQ where Kira monologues about wanting to draw flowers. I wonder if in life he drew. Guess it wouldn't be too hard. At least his models would stay still.

I've actually read it like half an hour ago. It was a much welcomed dose of Kira for me. I wish there were more of him being himself in 7
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>>150280325
I'm not big on Josuke.
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>>150280161
Then they aren't fit enough.
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>>150280566
If you mean Josuke4, then I agree. He is extremely generic. Joseph, Johnny and Josuke8 are the best
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>>150280511
I think he just says he'll take care of the invisible baby in the epilogue. Speaking of which, why didn't he just make a spirit photo of Kira? It would have saved so much time and effort.
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>>150280325
The second half of part 3 is not boring .

Most jojo meme posts outside of dedicated jojo discussions are shit but when they are good they are the best .
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>>150280656
He didn't want to spoil the fun for the kids
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>>150280560
Yeah. It's pretty much just Araki playing with one of his favourite characters. The panel when he talks about his life of numbers and hair drugs makes me wonder how Kir4 managed to stay so content.
Araki really loves Kira from what I gather in the interviews so I am glad he was able to wank off a bit.

I hope DMQ gets animated or he's at least in the ED where Kira normally sits at the station.
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>>150280325
I still don't like parts 5 and 6. Even with the new translations.
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why doesnt rohan use heavens door to change peoples genders and rewrite their memories as his sex slave?

#whereismydoujin
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>>150280656
yeah i never understood that-he came to make a photo of Chili Pepper but then got too busy taking care of the baby.

But damn that sucks, I understand it is probably too fast-paced at this point but him just even showing up would be nice. Maybe jotaro and him doing stuff and he leaves to protect the baby during important plot events
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>>150280412
it's implied he can play the piano at least
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>>150280694
Well, I don't know about Araki, but my god I love the character. He's a villain, true, but he feels so much more human and understandable than usual animu and Hollywood villains who feel more like plot devices. He's not even that evil, just really fucked up.
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>>150280325
Part 6 is my favorite part
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>>150280755
He tried it once as a research for manga plot and then stopped because it got borring.
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>>150280755
literally why didnt jojo turn into rohan kishabes super looney quests.

>body horror everywhere
"turns into a vortex to any location that rohan kishabe says, as long as the name of that location is preceded by the word "octopus"

"can use the abilities of heavens door on rohan kishabe, but only use it to perform specific tasks given to him by rohan kishabe, otherwise time will return to the point before rohan kishabe asked and only rohan kishabe will remember the question he asked"

"is a girl, loves rohan kishabe, will do anything rohan kishabe asks, and will seek out rohan kishabe, knowing his location can use the powers of heavens door and will do so on everyone she sees besides rohan kishabe, and write in them this exact command"

god damn of it araki why do i have to think of this for you.
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>>150280801
It's not, it's a description of their form. Pianists stereotipically have long thin fongers.
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>>150280801
Not really. Saying someone has pianist hands just means you have long/graceful hands.
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>>150280835
Recommended reading then is the two interviews about Kir4/DMQ and Part 4. Araki purposely wanted him to be a positive guy who didn't feel sorry for himself. It was Araki trying to "fix" what he didn't like in Shounen/Thriller film bad guys.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pgcnMshVrs7ZqvtACT3PWweRpmJOXSNyu7O9qf4M21g/mobilebasic

http://iwashimzu.tumblr.com/post/116228376897/post-scriptum-about-diamond-is-unbreakable

>>150280801
That's a common turn of phrase of fingers more than actually saying so.
But considering Sea Kira is meant to be a surgeon straiht out of trauma center I wouldn't be surpised.

Does anyone who can read runes know what Ghost boy is saying?
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>>150280976
We have "THus spoke rohan kisibhe" for that
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>>150280755
>jojo
>straight doujins
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>>150281049
>Recommended reading then is the two interviews

Thanks, I will. Doing bad stuff but feeling good about yourself as a person is something I'm kinda passionate about.
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>>150280976
also, more seriously, or at least in line with jojo's plot, why doesnt he use heavens door to find the invisible babies parents, and give them more control over their power.

oh also that first one something about them rematerializing from the other side of the portal.
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>>150281102
While I do feel a bit more gay than before I started watching/reading JoJo, I think it made me more into Gucci and Versace than guys
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>>150281184
The baby's brain is probably not developed enough to be used by heaven's door
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>>150280074
It's true. I can rest a coke can on my arse.
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>>150280656
>Almost 80 years old
>Health could rapidly decline at any year
What a great time at one's life to adopt a baby.
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>>150281440
THE BREAZHING JOSEFU
REMEBUH DA BREAZHING
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>>150281479
Imagine if hamon breathing was not actually a special rhythm of breathing, but actually just hyperventilating until you pass out.
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>>150281600
perfect
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>>150280325
I preffer Kosaku name and haircut (both haircuts) over Kira
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>>150281670
Foolish Zebra-haired businessman, you are nothing in the face of TRUE power!
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gay
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>>150279885
jojo is so gay
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Dont reply to poor b8. especially from a namefag
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>>150280325

I hate part 3. Always have, always will.

Part 5 onward is unreadable schlock.
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>>150280325
Diego and Wekapipo are my least favorite SBR characters
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>>150281600
>special rhythm of breathing
I do yoga.
Can I do hamon?
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>>150282054
I can understand Wekapipo (he was a bit bland) but what didn't you like about Diego?
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>>150282259
Can you put yo leg behind your head?
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is it weird that jojo inspired me to take steroids sometime in the future?

i've only watched part 1 and part 2 and have no intention of catching up as of now
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Finally watched the newest episode.

Am I right in assuming it was controversial on here? BEcause normally I tend to be a lot more forgiving of DP's fuckups than this place is and even I felt disappointed by them this time.
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>>150282347
After changing your intentions you'll find yourself really into Versace
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>>150282383
It's fortunate that I've forgotten most of the manga, so any of their fuckups goes way over my head.
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>>150282383
EVery episode there are flaming autist who scream "MUH QUALITY" "DAVID HACKS!!!" and shit. formulate the opinion yourself. I think the BtD exceeded my expetations OSTwise and the eye zoom. My only gripe was where they left off because i was craving more.
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What happened to make King Crimson happy?
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>>150282707
pic related
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I like the red eyes effect
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I don't see how this makes sense. How did Hayato's book already know about the guy with the open fly and the rain if this was clearly his first time in the loop? Am I missing something here?
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>>150283020
He was reading BtD. thats why the warning was there. BtD's soul is linked to time thus it can see all the loops it can take.
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>>150282274
Diego is a character I just couldn't care much about. Which makes me upset because Dio is one of my favorite characters and I love dinosaurs, so logically, the combination of the two should be my favorite thing. But while every other SBR main character had my interest, Diego was just uninteresting to me.

When you compare him to the other counterparts like Johnny or Gyro, he's not that different from Dio. Similar backstory, hunger, personality. I know a lot of people perceive him as “nicer” than Dio but I don’t, I think he is pretty much the same character as 12 year old Dio was only more developed (which is kind of the point of his existence, to show Dio having grown under different circumstances). The primary difference really is that Diego never became a cultfigure superhuman and is instead kind of perpetually “stuck” in the more human ambition and mindset of pre-Stone Mask Dio. So in a lot of ways, they really are similar.

Except Diego is written to be more human and he's given a obviously more tragic backstory, and he's presented to us as a tragic figure. Which, really, is my main issue with him: I couldn't care less about his backstory or goals. I feel like his petty grudges agaisnt society are so uninteresting compared to the motivations of other characters, and that him being presented to us as a sympathetic figure goes agaisnt why I like Dio in the first place. I think he falls short compared to most of the other SBR characters.

Diego felt to me like what happens when fujo fanfic writers try to give Dio some rape sobstory to make his actions more sympathetic. I just thought he was pathetic in a way that he wasn't intended to be, and in a way that makes me not care about him as a character.

I know this a pet peeve and that Diego is a well-written character, but this is why I just don't like him that much. (I love Scary Monsters though)
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>>150280325
The ending of Part 6 is overrated
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Fucking fourth wall breaking.
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>>150283679
you know what really broke the fourth wall? when polnareff fucking died
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>>150283389
I don't think he were eber ment to be a focal point of SBR's plot. Even valentine is not as important as previous villains are. The sstory is mostly about Gyro and Johnny. So, I think it's reasonable that Diego is not an overly developed character
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>>150283679
>Turning a pretty below average fight into a god-tier one in just one sentence
sasuga araki
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>>150283771
Not even mad, I feel nothing from spoilers that I can't confirm real or not.
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>>150283389
SBR doesn't develop anyone well except for Gyro and Johnny.
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>>150283855
Jotaro dies in part 8
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>>150283904
Tim and I guess Lucy were the only characters with satisfying conclusions, everybody else amounted to a whole lot of nothing
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Walk like an Egyptian has really fucking grown on me. No Roundabout but it's not bad.
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>>150283955
Vanilla Ice kills Joseph
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>>150283941
>Posting manga spoilers
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>>150283941
>>150283979
>>150283991
Iggy kill Dio
and Okuyasu was the killer
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>censor the "gore" of someone chewing their fingernails
>an elementary aged boy's dick and balls is completely fine and completely unobstructed from viewing

Japan truly confuses me.
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>>150283955
The Kira/Telence fight for shadows Kria's death in part 4 when Teleance runs his game character over with an ambulance.
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>>150284197
>posting fake spoilers just to piss of animeonlies
what the fuck is your problem? do you think you're being clever?
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>>150284237
>fake
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>>150284134
It just works
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>>150284282
I automatically mentally filter anything that remotely looks like a spoiler so jokes on you nerd.
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anon...
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>>150284237
>Being this arseblasted
Chill.

But for the several pieces of Ghost Kira meeting various dead part 3 characters, I'm suprised there's none with Kakyoin or the like.
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>>150284431
>a story featuring Ghost Kira meeting several of the previous dead characters who also didn't go to heaven or hell
That doesn't sound like a bad idea actually.
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>>150284431
>But for the several pieces of Ghost Kira meeting various dead part 3 characters
wait.. where are those things, I'm very interested
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>>150280325
Jonathan is best Jojo.
Part 5 and 7 is my favorite.
I preferred it when it wasn't about stands and more about hamon and the character physically getting good instead of depending on stands.
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>>150284531
I wish I could read nip enough to read some of the small stories and comics. The Kosaku ones look interesting.
It'd be nice perhaps as a framing device for another jojoveller like book but from a character's perspective.
(Like Touhou's Grimoire of Marisa)

>>150284565
There's a DMQ imgur folder that contains several.
http://imgur.com/a/8CqeO
But I dunno of Anon updates it or not.
There's Ice posted above and Teleance. There's a few Diavolo pieces and a a Pucci one that Anon kindly translated for me. I guess being dead you get to see lots of shit.
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>>150284431
There was a pretty amazing short comic about Risotto Nero being in a similar situation as Kira, and meeting a Prosciutto who did retain his memories. I don't remember the artist, though.
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>Part 6 ended the universe so we couldn't get a Shizuka Joestar part with Deadman's Q Kira acting as her ghost mentor.
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>>150285097
But anon, Shizuka is literally not related to the Joestars in any fucking way at all
why would she get a mc spot?
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>>150284134
It's one thing if they're literally babies or toddlers, if you're a parent or work at a daycare you can't really avoid it at that point.
But elementary school age kids aren't nearly as innocent and simple minded as fiction would dictate. Legacy of Victorian mentality and all that.
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>>150285260
Because fuck you I said so.
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>>150281670
I don't know what happened, but David made that Kira look off.

It looks less like a Zebra pattern and more like his hair is ice cream and the stripes are just chocolate syrup.

<spoiler>I think it's eyebrows</spoilers>
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>>150285097
>The main crew is Shizuka, Hayato, and Okuyasu's kid
>Josuke and Okuyasu are now both cops and are supporting cast
>Other supporting cast includes a recently released Akira Otoishi, Hazamada, Tonio, and Tomoko as an obaa-chan
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>>150283855
The REAL spoiler is that polnareff never dies though he willingly accepts death multiple times. In the end his soul gets put in a turtle.
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>>150285097
>ended the universe
No, only 6's gang is gone, with only Emporio retaining memories of them as proof they existed at some point

Also, I don't know if the ambulance is a gift or curse considering the fates of Angelo and Teru

>Josuke finds out Kira is still around
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>>150285097
>Doesn't understand MiH
Here we go again.
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>>150285334
And how would she communicate with Kira if they somehow managed to meet since its established that no one but that monk can see Kira, also turning invisible is a boring power for an mc, it works for a side character or minor villan but not for the main one
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Where the fuck did DIO find Pet Shop ?
Did he just learn how to train an eagle ?
Was this another hobby of his ?
How did he get the bird to submit to him ?
DIO probably feeds entire orphanages to this thing to keep it happy.
Did he seduce the bird ?
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>>150285479
>>150285457
You know what I meant. As in, it narratively ended, it's not being covered anymore, there is no more material on the old universe.
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>>150285511
Achtung Baby has an A in developmental potential.
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>>150285516
We can still get a spin-off of some sort, considering Jojo will turn 30 next year.
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>>150285514
>Where the fuck did DIO find Pet Shop?
He found it in a pet shop you dummy
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>>150285514
He shot it with the arrow to make it his own. Then fucked it into submission.
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>>150279885
/a/ is not for homosexuals
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>>150285555
Pretty much every single stand or atleast a big chunck of them has a rank A in potential
and what would she do besides turning invisible? turning others things invisible? she can already do that
Also stand stats are bullcrap they are literally DBZ power levels
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>>150285416
>Tonio's sister cooking
>Akira is a washed up mess that needs help in reviving his career.

>>150285457
>Someone puts a ghost hit out on Josuke because he was being a dickhead.

>>150285511
Stand Users can see Ghosts though.
I dunno about the power.
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>>150284117
>since its established that no one but that monk can see Kira

Normal people can't see Kira but why not stand users?
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>>150285700

She's invisible presumably because she's manipulating light, so they could expand that into a more general a barrier type power or light manipulation.
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>>150285511
This is going off Part 4, but people with stands can see ghosts like Reimi

Not sure what to say about the invisibility though.

As for story, exploring familial bonds not directly tied to bloodlines (as she was adopted by Joseph with her parents gone) might be interesting.
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>>150285457
Would love to see everyone's reaction to Kira just boldly walking through Morioh with a sweet bowler hat.
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Post that image, you know which one
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>>150279885
Spirit and technique, flawless and firm
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>>150286123
This one?
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>>150286123
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>>150286363
Is this a poor attempt at loss.jpg?
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>>150286403
its okish, 4 panel is the weak point. given that all shots are from the same ep I would say its good enough
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>>150285514
>DIO probably feeds entire orphanages to this thing to keep it happy
They don't eat that much. And DIO probably seduced it by wearing some nice feathers and doing an attractive dance, birds apparently see humans as really tall sexy birds anyway so it would've been too easy.
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>>150286123
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>>150286702
>DIO probably seduced it by wearing some nice feathers and doing an attractive dance
>now I'm imagining this giant faggot on a skirt made of feathers dancing like a bird in front of Pet Shop
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>>150286837
Was he the one who saved Josuke in that flashback?
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>>150286945
yes
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>>150286920
That wacky fucker, what will he do next?
He's even worn feathers at least twice, once when he turned into a vampire and once for this shitty novel. There's a precedent.
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>>150287030
It's not like he wasn't acquainted with birds before Pet Shop, either.
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>>150286920
It just reminded me of Star Trek V.
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>>150287141
Why did he created all of those cat/dog-men in the first place?
was he bored and wanted to pass the time?
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>>150287201
>Jonathan's head
Nice detail
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>>150287238
Experimenting with his powers and sexuality
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>>150286920
HE JUST DOES WHAT HE WANTS, DEVIL MAY CARE
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>>150287300
These fuckers never got punished, did they? Jonathan beat DIO up once but I don't think he was ever shown teaching them a lesson, bullshit desu
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>>150287286
>and sexuality

Is there a fic where Dio fucks one of his fusions?
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>>150287364
If not there should be. Or at least a fic where one of them humps his leg.
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>>150287030
So what was Dios fascination for those shoes from the Wizard of Oz?
His first encounter with Pucci also looked like it was straight out from it
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>>150287361
they probably died in their twenties
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>>150287238
He was experimenting with his powers and having fun at the expense of others.
That whole scene, him lying on that chaise lounge, holding a rose and speaking French to Poco’s sister, surrounded by mancats and catowls and then crushing one of them because they weren’t polite to his guest.

That's his idea of fun.
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>>150287361
vampire dio seeked them out and turned them into zombies that jonathan later killed without knowing it was them.
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>>150280325
I don't care as much for stands.
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FEEL LIKE SHIT, JUST WANT HIM BACK
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>>150287409
>that doujin where Iggy rapes Jotaro
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>>150287418
They are stereotypical genie shoes, it fits with the Arab motif of Part 3.

I mean look at things from his perspective: he's an eccentric narcissist straight outta the 1800s, all he had to work with back then were corsets and leather.

Then he's in the 80s and fashion has changed a lot. Imagine how he put his outfits together
>oh my what is this stretchy thing that clings to my new muscles like a wet t-shirt
>Men can put lipstick now ?
>I'm going to walk around with JoJo's bulge on plain view and no one's going to stop me
>Vanilla Ice get me the tighest brighest clothes you can find because this body is going places

>>150287030
Look at this shit. Bedazzled shoes, bedazzled shirt, feathers on collar, earrings, painted nails, seriously this is a clubbing outfit.

He went so nuts about the evolution of fashion. He’s a vampire from 19th century indulging in the new world. Dude was having the time of his life until the Joestars came along
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Which part had the best finale in the anime?
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KIRAKIUN DAI SAN NO BAKUDAN, BITE ZA DUSTO
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>>150287700
>that doujin where Jotaro rapes himself
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>>150287804
It's also good to remember that he was just 20 when he became a vampire. DIO is almost a teenager.
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You're in the club and this guy poses at a 25 degree angle at your girl.
What do you do?
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>>150288704
Stop time and place him about 5 steps lower.
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>>150288770
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>>150288704
Punch him in the eye and legs
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I wish Enrico and Domenico could have gotten along
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Anyone else wants DP to drop Jojo altogether after Part 4 is over? I really want VA and onwards to be animated by other studio.
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>>150288854
I blame Enrico for not manning up and trying to solve the problem by himself, but I understand the situation he was in
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>>150288993
trigger please
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>>150288993
They've done an pretty alright job so far. Going with another studio means there's a chance it could end up with Toei.
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>>150288993
are you the Cinderellafag?
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Has there been anything that the anime has done better than the manga so far?
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>>150288854
>the AU protags of Part 9
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>>150289140
haha filthy frank X-D very funny! mind if I post this to reddit?
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>>150289140
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>>150280127
>Joseph stops doing sun fist shit after Kars
>Jotaro doesn't bother getting better at time stop after Dio because it would interfere with his busy schedule of fucking dolphins

worst
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>>150289140
Tonio freaking out
but honestly>>150289172
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>>150288993
No, David clearly cares about JoJo and has done so from the start. I'd rather leave it in their hands even if their budget isn't as big.
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>>150289183
These people had lives before their adventure started and had to go back to them after it ended, they are not Goku who just fucks off and leaves his family and obligations behind all the time to just train with his buddies
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>>150289140
Showed Ghost Dad finding Kosaku Kira, mentioned the hidden-compartment in the coffin to try and fill that huge plot-hole, showed us Polnareffland, ended that Vanilla Ice episode on Polnareff seemingly devoured by the void, made Shigechi's suffering and death seem infinitely sadder, made Caesar's death actually feel like it meant something
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>>150280755
There's a few of him using Heaven's Door on Koichi but with out the genderswapping stuff.
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>>150281102
>Thinks brainwashing men into being girls is straight
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>>150287804
If it wasn't for the eating people thing and the taking over the world thing he'd honestly seem pretty chill.
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>>150280325
I love dumb JoJo memes.

I really like OVA.

Kakyoin is my favorite crusader.

Polnaref is overrated and annoying.

Joseph is the best JoJo.

Gappy is a faggot.
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5 > 7 > 6 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1

Too early for Jojolion.
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>>150289408
We know it's you Kakyoin, fuck off
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Is Bites the Dust a proto-Requiem?

also, I don't remind about Kira's father talking too much in the manga.
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>>150289298
It's not like you have to throw away all your commitments to get better at something over time. Even just a few hours a week probably would've given Jotaro a few more seconds over that many years.
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>>150289140
Not sure about better overall, but the audio makes certain scenes stand out more
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>>150289408
fuck off

sure

sure

sure

fuck off

fuck off
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>>150289438
It put an intense strain on the human body though, hence DIO being able to abuse it with his immortality. There's a reason Star Platinum's durability went from A to E.
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>>150289140
super stylizied variable colers
opening and endings
all the music
Dio's power reveal
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While I'm really enjoying the part 4 anime, it's leaving much to be desired.
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>>150289432
>>150289456
Hey, the poster did ask for unpopular opinions.
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>>150289490
I'll never understand the Pepsi meme
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>>150289436
>stand gets stabbed with arrow
>new ability that replaces the first
>arrow must be connected at all times

>user gets stabbed with arrow a second time
>gets new ability and keeps old ones
>doesn't have to keep the arrow
Two totally different things
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>>150280325
Part 3 is pretty good, Egypt arc is great
Kira's legitimately great but overrated as fuck
King Crimson looks ridiculous and terrible
Requiem stands are a bullshit concept I'm glad never showed up again
Giorno and Josuke didn't need to show up in Stone Ocean
SBR was cool from the start and stayed consistently good
JoJolion took me longer to get invested but it's great now, especially to reread
The art-style in JoJolion doesn't show enough emotion
Daiya is the worst character in the series
Damo interested me more than Joubin
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>>150289805
Can't really blame anon for thinking that way though. Whenever a new concept is introduced, it almost certainly changes in later chapters without explaination. see: Star Platinum or stands in general I guess
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>That's his idea of fun.
The poor batards knows how to party hard
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Where was Giorno in Stone Ocean? All the rest of Dio's children showed up, why not Giorno? One of the volume intros hints at it but it never goes anywhere. And most importantly could GER stop MiH?
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>>150287660
Go get him. He's probably still there

It would be really amusing if Araki reintroduced him in a later part
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>>150290050
Basically just "he's around there somewhere doing whatever, who cares"
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>jotaro
>be 300lb muscle delinquent
>become skinny aids kid because you didn't train after the greatest adventure of your life
ok
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>>150290050
He was hanging out with Josuke
that's why neither of them showed up
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>>150290050
Giorno was shelved for being OP as all shit. Ironically enough, reaching his peak and saving himself with GER killed all potential for him to be used as a character.

And if MIH was specifically targeting GER then I'm pretty sure it could revert it, otherwise I'm not sure. My guess would be that GER would be able to protect Giorno from being trapped by fate in the next universe, so he'd be able to choose to go fight Pucci if he wanted to or whatever.
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>>150290098
>tfw no part with these two on bizzare adventures
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>>150289490
While I'm really enjoying the part 4 anime, all the contrarians and concern shills leave much to be desired.
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>>150290098
>Josuke ever hanging out with scum like him
Josuke goes on about his delinquent lifestyle but ultimately he's a really sweet and fairly sheltered guy, I'm pretty sure Giorno's ruthlessness and cruelty would frankly scare him.
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>>150290122
If GER was what killed Giornos character from ever showing up again what killed Josuke's character from ever coming back?
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I've asked this before, but could Homura beat Killer Queen Bites the Dust?
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>>150290151
He was simply a character designed for a self-contained story, Araki never had any more plans to include him. I'm disappointed too but I can sort of see why, he's an easygoing kid who never left his town and never went out of his way to combat DIO's forces the way Jotaro did.

Also, Araki probably would've had to kill him, and nobody would've wanted that.
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>>150290165
Madoka was only okay.
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>>150290122
>if MIH was specifically targeting GER
Actually MiH targets the universe and not people themselves. Therefore its not affecting Giorno at all and GER can't do anything.
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>>150290165
Can she time-travel while dead?
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>>150290236
I mean if MIH was specifically targeting Giorno to kill him, like it did to Annasui, Hermes, Jotaro and Jolyne. Hence me saying 'specifically targeting GER/Giorno'.
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>>150290142
Yeah I don't think a cop would get along with a mob boss


>>150290206
Not showing adult Josuke and Giorno or not even alluding that 4 and 5 even existed is one of 6s most disappointing things
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>>150290088
Just like Gohan.
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Joshuu makes me horny
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>>150290211

She's a 7/10.

>>150290239

No, but she can rewind time if she thinks she's going to.
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>>150290278
It was Jolyne's story, not Giorno's and not Josuke's. Giorno and Josuke had their stories already, and they were extremely self-contained and limited to specific areas on the other side of the globe. And neither of them knew Jolyne or had any direct connections to her, either.

Not to mention that characters from previous parts do pretty much nothing but job. Joseph had 1 victory (2 counting Mariah, which was Avdol's as well) in all of part 3, Jotaro got turned into pudding by a rat and helped out with Kira a bit and then got fucked hard in 6, and Polnareff's suffering intensified. If Josuke and Giorno had showed up it probably would've been underwhelming and out of place.
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I want to deeply kiss Josuke while I unzip his zippers to play with his nipples and the other hand reaches for the shaft then move my mouth to his sweet neck so I can hear his soft delinquent voice moaning my name directly into my ear with triple pleasure
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>>150290371
Well, is she'll manage to force Kira to call back BAITZA DASUTO, she might win. But he can still outsmart her with the regular bomb or sheer heart attack.
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Fly me to the moon would be the best ED for SO, at least for the final cour

Probe me wrong
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>>150290428
Buccellati, stahp
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>>150290455
>Probe me wrong
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>>150290487
finally someone realized
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>>150290436

Yes, but this is Bite the Dust. Kira no longer has SHA. Maybe you mean Stray Cat? Invisible bombs are hard to beat.
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>>150290436
She can just fly into the air of pull out a rocket launcher

>>150290371
I can tell you one thing about Homura she did nothing wrong
Kinda strange that shes wearing a Gundam 00 uniform
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>>150290544
I'm animu only (at least for Part IV) pleb and didn't know about SHA. Stray cat might work as well. Stopped time won't help you to evade what you can't see (but does it mean you would be harmed in stopped time?)
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anyone have a link for the full version of the new OP?
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>>150290554

Funny.

>>150290600

I suppose you're right. You cannot fight what cannot be seen. thank you for the answer.
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>>150279885
Why does he look so old? I thought ripple users were basically immortal?
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Sono Chi no Sadame is the worst OP.
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>>150291072
Why not Stand Proud?
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>>150280243
This, best stand for the best villain.
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>>150290720
If you want the full song, you can search it your own damn self on Youtube. As for the full OP, we'll get it this week
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>>150291125
Because that is the best OP
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>>150289824
>Daiya is the worst character in the series
You are the lowest type of scum.
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>>150291255
It's not
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>>150291232
yeah meaning the full song, i cant find a torrent or anything of it in a good quality...
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>>150291188
A shame he was just another villan of the week
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>>150291266
A dumb moe blob that doesn't add anything to the story and has no personality, it only adds huge tits and we already have plenty of that in 8
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>>150290371
No anon, I mean that Puella Magi Madoka Magica as a series is only okay.
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>>150291447
>doesn't add anything to the story
>adds huge tits
I see a conradiction in your post
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How the blu-rays will fix all the quality in Pt.4? Please, draw some lips and noses.
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>>150291447
Baby murderer is the best Jojolion girl
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>>150291255
No, Sono Chi No Kioku is.
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>>150291595
>Kaato
>Not being relevant since shes involved with Jobin and has a beef with Norisuke over their children
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>>150291325
Just download it from YT
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>>150291784
Too old
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>>150291635
just check jojo comparisons and see it for yourself
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>>150291823
Get out
now please
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>>150291872
It's not like it's against the law to have a good taste
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You know I like Kira quite a lot from the perspective that I can relate to him minus the whole killing women for hand fetish purposes.

I can relate to his whole "quiet life" thing in the fact that I also just want to live life in a quiet way with no bullshit regarding friends or enemies while also enjoying life by enjoying my personal fucked up fetishes. In fact, I already practically live this way to a degree.

Kira did nothing wrong, it was all Schigechi's fault. Everything he did he did to survive from Josuke and his gang trying to kill him. This is not opinion it is fact.
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>>150280325
I don't care about the poses except the cover ones and in part 2
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>>150291937
what would Sam's stand be?
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>>150291937
>no trigger discipline

deserves to die by his own weapon.
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>>150291831
the github one? thanks for the tip.
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>>150291965
[C O P K I L L E R]
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>>150291937
>Kira did nothing wrong
He did a lot of things wrong, but his character is still better than 99% of villains in pop media
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>>150291266
She's literally a bad clone of Sugar Mountain. A blind creepy girl with dark hair, a bowlcut, stockings and a hood. And her obsession with Gappy was badly-written shit, one of the lowest points of the series.
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>>150291937
That faggot deserves everything he got for ruining a perfectly fine sandwich
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>>150291784
She's unquestionably hot as fuck but isn't she literally a grandma?
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Animefag here
Do the later parts get any better? I liked 2 best.
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>>150291784
Kaato's hair bugs me.
I thought it was lighting but it is a different colour spiral esque pattern. I get its probably just Araki trying to keep things a little more toned down than usual but
>Kaato has spirals
>Hato has arrows
>Fruitdad has balls
>Beetledad has spikes
I actually wonder if Joshuu's original hair would make him actually fit. He seems to...be very plain.


>>150291662
Paper Moon King from from "Eh cool" to "Holy shit" in a chapter. Beefy baby is best girl (boy)

>Mitsuba will be the Shinobu of Jojolion and actually go through alot of shit but nobody really notices or cares.
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>>150292142
Reado za mungaro
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>>150292142
BAIT ZA POSTU
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>>150292137
Not a problem
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>>150291937
>>150291965
>>150291981
Hi fellow /k/ommandos.
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>>150292137
So?
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>>150292098
> And her obsession with Gappy was badly-written shit
Why?
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>>150292039
desu I don't see anything wrong with killing women
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>>150292189
Agreed, but even so it's sort of weird to think about.

Norisuke being a grandpa feels odd the same way, I know he's apparently 59 but I always thought he was early forties at most going by how he acts and looks.
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>>150280325
I think deaths in jojo are pretty underwhelming and should happen more often to gives fights more weight.
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>>150292270
never realized niggerisms were word filtered baka senpai
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>>150292270
You're too edgy.
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>>150292265
Why is she so enamored with him without knowing anything about him? Why is she so immoral in her pursuit of him? Why is she so quick to drop it completely? Why would she act like that in the first place?

The only explanation given was 'Ha ha I can make you into my ideal boyfriend' and that was completely out of the blue and was dropped just as quickly, along with Daiya in general. The part just read like bad wish-fulfillment and really stands out and detracts from an overall fantastic part.

Also her fans are fucking abysmal.
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Ask chuck norris.
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>>150292537
His meme status died in 2009, get out
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>>150292428
>Why is she so enamored with him without knowing anything about him?
I don't know. It's an ongoing series. She might know Josefumi or Kira. Or she's just a teenage girl.

>Why is she so immoral in her pursuit of him?
She's a teenage girl.

Why is she so quick to drop it completely?
She got the attention she wanted. There's no reason for her to use any elaborate plans anymore.

>Why would she act like that in the first place?
Teenage girl, duh.


>>150292428
You probably don't get laid that much with these kind of ideas
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>>150292597
>Every one of this characters traits is because she's a teenage girl
Yeah, great character. You really convinced me with these hot and in-depth opinions.
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>>150292446
You probably don't get laid that much with these kind of ideas

Sorry >>150292428, second answer was not for you.
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Why is he so lewd?
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what kinda reaction is this?? After finding out BB is gone
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>>150292643
Well, you didn't convince me with your "it's shit" oppinions either. She act like a common sort of a teenage girl, so it'quite realistic even if there's no character-specific reasons behind it other than "wow. I'm 16 and I live with a cute guy under one roof",
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>>150292702
Completely shallowed and deprived of any kind of emotion, perfectly fitting for Giorno, Polnareff didn't knew him but I guess his showing his respects
Mista and Trish don't know it
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>>150279885
Nice genetics plus hamon.
I mean, his mom looked like she was in her 20's despite being way pas her 40's.
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>>150292721
She does not act like a 'common sort of teenage girl' by any possible definition of it. She doesn't try and get to know Gappy at all, she has no emotional attachment to him, and she's motivated by nothing but his cock from the start. She acts like a common sort of teenage girl written by a medicore harem author, not what Araki usually produces.
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>>150292828
ohhh they didn't hear Polnareff say that?
I thought they did and were fucking around after
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>>150292897
I don't think they were listening to him, and it looks like Polnareff is talking directly to Giorno, I remember Mista telling Giorno to hurry up so they could meet Bruno in the coliseum
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>>150292872
>She doesn't try and get to know Gappy
Stealing his memories was kinda the plot point of her arc.

>she has no emotional attachment to him
She's all over him. She's got a lot of emotional attachment to him. You might mean she does not have a big enough reason to have one, but you don't know that and she doesn't need one. She's a teenage girl and means she really can be motivated
>by nothing but his cock from the start

>She does not act like a 'common sort of teenage girl' by any possible definition of it.
I think I won't trust your oppinion on this one
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>>150290810
Straizo's whole thing was proof that they weren't also Joseph never kept up his training.
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>>150293070
Being infatuated with someone for no reason and being emotionally attached to someone are two completely different things. She had no reason for either, and no, 'being a teenage girl' is not a well-written or compelling reason if you want to read something better than moeshit harem. Which I do, hence me not liking absolute non-entities like Daiya.

And you're kind of parading your ignorance of what girls are with every post, if you actually think the average teenage girl would behave the way she did. Yasuho's much more believable and three-dimensional, being freaked out and hostile at first, but then starting to grow fonder and more invested in Gappy as time went on and she had time to actually form an emotional bond.
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>>150293239
>Being infatuated with someone for no reason and being emotionally attached to someone are two completely different things.
In what way?

> She had no reason for either, and no, 'being a teenage girl' is not a well-written or compelling reason if you want to read something better than moeshit harem. Which I do, hence me not liking absolute non-entities like Daiya.
As I said before, the manga is not finished yet, so your criticism here has no foundation. At the very least she's realistic.

>
And you're kind of parading your ignorance of what girls are with every post, if you actually think the average teenage girl would behave the way she did. Yasuho's much more believable and three-dimensional, being freaked out and hostile at first, but then starting to grow fonder and more invested in Gappy as time went on and she had time to actually form an emotional bond.
Once again, I don't think I'll trust your opinion. Yasuho is a comletely different from Daiya kind of a girl. You know, not all girls are the same.
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Is Kira hair changing white a twins Peak reference?
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>>150293376
They're pretty much the exact opposites. Infatuation is projecting an imagined relationship onto someone you don't actually know, emotional attachment is knowing someone and liking them because of what you know. How can you not know this? It's not very advanced.

And once again, no matter how much you cry about how the manga isn't finished and how it's completely realistic for her to obsessively lust after Gappy for no reason, for now Daiya is a shallow and ridiculous character who'd be right at home in a boring harem. She's in stark contrast with actually interesting characters like Hato, Kaato and Yasuho who all manage to display more depth than her too. They're not similar to her or each other.

Remember how one of my reasons for not liking Daiya was her abysmal fans? This is a prime example.
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>>150293509
>They're pretty much the exact opposites. Infatuation is projecting an imagined relationship onto someone you don't actually know, emotional attachment is knowing someone and liking them because of what you know. How can you not know this? It's not very advanced.
English is not my first language + you don't make a whole lot of sense even if it were. Daiya's still emotionally attached to Josuke and not just imagining a relationship. In fact, dhe doesn't imagine any relationship, she's actively forcing him into one.

>for now Daiya is a shallow
Maybe. I've never argued against that. I disagreed on her story with Josuke being "shit". It can't be shit if it's realstic.

>She's in stark contrast with actually interesting characters like Hato, Kaato and Yasuho who all manage to display more depth than her too. They're not similar to her or each other.
Again, I've never argued that she's an interesting character. I also thought that characters being different is a good thing, not a bad one. Some girls are just shallow.

>Remember how one of my reasons for not liking Daiya was her abysmal fans? This is a prime example.
You are ridiculous
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How are animeonlines going to react to this scene?
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>>150285457
I thought part 6 literally restarted the universe and everything happened differently e.g. Pucci never did anything in that universe, Kira never fought the JoJo's and DIO probably wasnt a thing etc. Surely the entire universe ending would affect the previous cast right?
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>>150293742
ya you are right
>The other chapters, however, are everything else. Set in the 20th century after Made In Heaven resets the world exactly thirty-six times, it focuses on kid detective Joji Joestar who, while investigating a recent incident, comes across and meets up with the original ("Universe-J") Giorno and Rohan. Giorno has survived due to his Stand Gold Experience Requiem nullifying the effects, Rohan survives by being too preoccupied with his manga to realize Made In Heaven was activated. They discover that the world has reset 36 times, resulting in various and random changes going through-out the individual parts of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, but in each edition of the world Battle Tendency, the plot remained consistent: specifically, 36 versions of Kars became the Ultimate Lifeform and now live on Mars and the Universe-J Kars has become a guardian of human life. There was also one rendition of Steel Ball Run, resulting in the creation of the Funny Valentines.
http://jojo.wikia.com/wiki/Jorge_Joestar
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>>150280325
Araki is a closet homo.
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>>150293740
considering his popularity, even in the west, not well
i just watched a compilation of anime onlys watching bites the dust and they lost their shit when rohan died and i dont even think he's that popular in the west, or at the very least not as popular as jotaro
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>>150293742
Where is it stated nothing happened? Pucci's plan was to loop back round to the instant before he activated MiH. The loop had already begun but we don't know how far it got since MiH most probably stopped when Pucci died and Enrico was most likely just kicked out of his room to the present day.

Nobody had any memory of the incident which I suppose implies MiH stopped before they were all born and gravity explains how they all met again, but where is it implied anything more than part 6 was retconned?
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>>150293782
>jorge joestar
>canon
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>>150293740
So they are sticking with the Part 4 anime style for 5 and 6 or they are gonna change it
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>>150293707
That's fair, I thought your misunderstanding was more terminology-based than language-based. You speak English better than I can speak a second language, so I'm not going to shit on you for that. And she was projecting a relationship onto him by imagining what it would be hypothetically like and taking steps to make it real, that's how projection works.

As for the rest though, I have repeatedly said why Daiya's actions are -not- realistic at all. And even if it was, it's entirely possible for something to be realistic and still be shit. Araki could write a dialog-free comic about Aishou getting an ingrown toenail and having a sore foot he needs to soak in hot water and it'd be completely realistic, but also (in all likelihood) complete garbage.

So you're saying that she's not interesting and she's not deep or compelling but she's still good? I don't follow at all. And yeah, I was explicitly saying that the other female characters are unique and interesting and have their own motivations, Daiya is shallow and dull and defined completely by a shallow, dull and one-sided relationship that was dropped completely. She isn't an interesting or complex character, and I'd say that makes her pretty shitty.
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>>150293873
Emporio not Pucci, what the fuck.
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>>150293787
>unpopular
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>>150280336
>those hips
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>>150293945
pucci has a pretty nice body
i wonder where he gets the time to work out, though?
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>>150293985
Isn't Pucci the single most active and hands-on main villain in the series? While guys like DIO are lounging around shirtless and guys like Kira are fisting themselves with their girlfriends Pucci was fighting on the front line, no wonder he's in good shape.
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>>150293875
I wonder how are they gonna explain this in the anime
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>>150294037
yeah but he was looking that good even when he was only 15
what was that about?
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>>150294069
>dio met pucci when he was 15
still not over this jesus christ
knowing how things end up between them, i can't help but get hives at that, kind of gross honestly
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Kira would have been such a shit villain without the extra exposition from DMQ.
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>>150293893
>And she was projecting a relationship onto him by imagining what it would be hypothetically like and taking steps to make it real, that's how projection works.
I disagree. Firstly, "projection" is when you atribute some of your traits to others while denying them in yourself. She definitely doesn't do that. She's not delusional or anything also. But she is emotionally attached to Josuke. She is all over him whenever she has an excuse.

>As for the rest though, I have repeatedly said why Daiya's actions are -not- realistic at all.
Your reason was "she's not Yasuho". Well, she is not, because she's a different character and a different kind of girl. In reality there's more then one kind of girls.

>And even if it was, it's entirely possible for something to be realistic and still be shit
It is, but that would be the problem of the manga's story, not of Daiya's behavior and portrayal. And I don't see how they are shit.

>So you're saying that she's not interesting and she's not deep or compelling but she's still good?
Where did I say it? I say she has boobs and I enjoy her. Her portrayal isn't bad even if she is hallow as a character. And the thing is we still have no idea if she is shallow because it is an ongoing manga
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>>150294040
the same way they'll explain KC, a 3 minute long dialogue by the narrator to explain how it works
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>>150294103
Contrary to what gets posted here, on a regular basis, Pucci nor dio are canonically a gay and were not romantically involved in any way. Puccis love for dio was platonic and stemmed from his charisma and ambition something kira never had btw

If you're getting grossed out at dio influencing the mind of a youth then its your own perversion doing it.
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>>150294103
It's ambiguous at best though, and DIO thankfully only ever calls Pucci his friend rather than his boyfriend or whatever.
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>>150294172
>If you're getting grossed out at dio influencing the mind of a youth then its your own perversion doing it.
Admit it, influencing your food is kinda weird
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>>150294139
>there are entire episodes dedicated to how King Crimson and Heavy Weather work
>there a whole extra 5 episodes explaining the end of part 6
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>>150294172
>>150294173
i wasn't thinking in terms of romantics, i was thinking, jesus christ, dio manipulated an emotionally broken 15 year old thats kind of messed up. not any more messed up than the nine million other bad things dio did, but
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>>150294118
That's not the definition of it I gave at all, I never said anything about self-denial. And as I said before, it was impossible for her to have legitimate emotional attachment to him even if her feelings were strong, because she didn't even know him. I don't want to play the arrogant English-speaker card here but I think we're using different definitions.

And I've said multiple times why they aren't realistic and are akin to a crappy harem show rather than something an actual human being would do. If a strange person moves into your house you know nothing about, a 'typical teenage girl' would likely feel a lot of conflicting emotions - curiosity, indignation, confusion, and possible interest. Daiya feels nothing but lust. It's bad and unbelievable writing. And note that I've never denied there being more than one kind of girl and have explicitly praised Hato, Kaato and Yasuho for all being different both from each other and from the mess that Daiya is.

You're allowed to say 'Daiya makes my penis move so I like her.' I'm also allowed to say she's a shitty and ridiculous character (particularly in contrast to better ones) than her. I think I'm done with this conversation, it's re-affirmed why I don't like characters like her.
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>>150294172
>something kira never had btw
yeah thats definitely true
i still think he was engaging though, if only because his determination to stay in morioh and live his life was really fun to watch, and him struggling to deal with the forces that prevented that were cool
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do you ever wish things would've gone differently for a character?
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Anyone else think bites the dust is just the silliest and most useless power ever
>he isn't aware of the time loop so bites the dust actually didn't help him one fucking bit
>it didn't even give him the perception of being bought more time
What a shit ability.
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>>150294238
Not really messed up when dio literally changed Puccis life for the better in nearly every imaginable way aside from setting his mind up for the most retarded master plan in the world.

That being said Pucci is still the best villain to ever grace jojo.
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>>150294238
That's fair, I'm with you there. There's a huge level of seediness and manipulation inherent in their friendship, even if it served to humanize DIO a bit. Pucci was just a damn kid who got screwed hard by fate and DIO took advantage of his despair and desperation for closure and acceptance, it was brutal. Even moreso that DIO was abruptly killed and Pucci left to carry out his will alone.

>>150294172
Araki outed DIO as bisexual and said that Pucci was one of the only people he was capable of loving (and even then not truly) and Pucci's whole character is based around repression and lying to himself. Given that and DIO's own predatory nature I got the impression there was an undertone of creepy sexuality in play, even if neither DIO nor Pucci ever actually made any moves on each other.
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>>150294321
all the time but
i feel like they would be less interesting to me if they had gone different
also, unrelated, but that picture is really cute
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>>150294321
Every day.
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>>150294328
>changed Puccis life for the better
are you high nigga
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>>150294321
I wish Jolyne had the weather report disk and used it along with Stone Free to beat pucci instead of having her die offscreen and leaving it all to emporio
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>>150294371
leone ;__:
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>>150294373
if dio wasn't there he would have killed himself seeing how he reacted to perla's death
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>>150294260
>That's not the definition of it I gave at all, I never said anything about self-denial. And as I said before, it was impossible for her to have legitimate emotional attachment to him even if her feelings were strong, because she didn't even know him. I don't want to play the arrogant English-speaker card here but I think we're using different definitions.
I think we do and I don't think English has anything to do with it. Her feelings are not only strong but persistant and that makes it an emotional attachment. Just not the stereotypically healthy one.

>a 'typical teenage girl' would likely feel
Listen, some girls are simply kinda shallow, kinda slutty and not extremely afraid because their whole family are stand users. You might have not ecountered them but they do exist and I enjoy them as much as I enjoy Daiya. She might be the deepest character in the world, but she's quite realistic and fun to watch.

>I'm also allowed to say she's a shitty and ridiculous character
Sure you are allowed to do that. I'm not arguing about how good her character is. I'm arguing that she's a real type of a person and her portrayal is fine.
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>>150294321
It happens a lot actually.

I wish Ceasar and Joseph could have had their golden years together, Bubble man being the cool uncle of the invisible baby.

I also wished kakyoin didn't have to die for one piece of info that fucking Johnny figured out on his own, so jotraos autism might be curved a bit by the time of part 4 where his mentorship could have been useful. Avdol and iggy sadly needed to die for Polnareffs tragic character tho.

And I wish WR and Pucci could have had a normal life, then maybe he wouldn't have been a priest at Stone Ocean and that retarded sniper would have been the only rocky part of jolynes life by setting her up to go to jail.
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>>150285457
Teru is only temporary.
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>>150294426
Johnny mainly figure out THE WOOD because of already encountering a time stand, also that was like 20 years later
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>>150294419
pucci would have coped with his tragedy and moved foward and realize that you have to accept responsibility and learn from the terrible things you do instead of running from it and blaming "muh destiny" for everything that goes wrong in his life. all he wanted was absolution, and then gravity fag comes up and gives it to him so he can manipulate a teenager into following his will.
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>>150294351
>DIO was outed as bisexual by araki
Wrong, he never said that and the fact that you're interpreting that interview that way means you're searching for the gay yourself, queer.
>Puccis whole character was based around repression and lying to himself.
Continuing to pull shit out your ass to fit your gay fantasy I see.
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>>150294497
nice b8 m8
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>>150294497
not him but why the fuck are you so against dio being bisexual? i agree that interview was pretty cringy but even if araki hadn't confirmed it dio looks like he could very well be. being straight isn't the default.
>Continuing to pull shit out your ass to fit your gay fantasy I see.
what? pucci's character actually is based around repression of feelings and guilt.
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>>150294476
Thats an awful tall assumption to make given the immediate tragedy he faced after already finding the "Absolution" he wanted in god and it being directly opposed by fate, something he was already coming to grips with and is commonly predetermined in most christian faith.

Its not a stretch that he wouldn't have been able to cope. I love him because hes the best villain, but the reason hes the best villain is because his "Descent" to villainy wasn't really "Descent", it was an ascension into a form of acceptance all its own that was driven by dio.

Had he "descended" into anything darker after the tragedy Its likely he wouldn't have survived into adulthood, and certainly wouldn't have lead anywhere near as fulfilling a life. Dio literally gave him purpose.
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>>150294497
>"Dio's sort of a composed character that could go either way. He could go with a man or a woman."
And as for the Pucci thing, that's kind of what he's explicitly presented as. He acts pure and resolute and unwavering while Whitesnake enunciates all of his doubts and misgivings and disgust. His issues are based around causing Perla's death and desperately trying to convince himself it wasn't his fault. That's his character.
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>>150283020
BITE AH DUSTO
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>>150294583
Gay is default though.
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>>150294583
Yeah but not lying to himself about being a fucking homo. He was looking for absolution and trying to come to grips with his faith, which is where the repression comes from because its christianity. This general is always flooded with people so wrapped up in the memes that they forget that dio wasn't a sexual person at all, let alone homosexual or bisexual. He literally saw women as tools for bearing children, not objects of desire, romance, or affection, all things he abhorred. What the fuck makes you think pucci would be different?

Cus you love the idea of black boipucci getting filled, just like the rest of the secret gaybois here. Dio being bisexual has no basis in fact and I was upset about the earlier poster getting "grossed out" about him meeting Pucci at a young age because it seemed like he implied it was the gay pedophilia shit that grossed him out then curbed it to "Nah its just fucked up he manipulated a kid."
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>>150289298
>these people had lives
Joseph didn't. He stopped training because he got a life AFTER his adventure ended.
Jotaro's a fucking high school student who wasn't shown to have any hobbies other than being a delinquent.
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>>150294692
this guy is so mad right now
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>>150294692
DIO is one of the most explicitly sexual and hedonistic characters in the entire series. What the hell have you been reading?
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>>150294737
i thought he liked video games and prince or some shit
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>>150294692
Jonathan was really only person he had any feeling of how can you say "being an human equal".

Women were baby bearers and status symbols, dad was a monster he must kill, mom is dead and he adores her, adoptive dad is to climb the social ladder and for shelter plus food, friends are there to support and adore him.

Jonathon was in the shit pile but managed to climb from that into equal tier. To Dio only Jonathon is worthy to bear his head, no one else.
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>>150294604
Taken entirely out of context and not related to sex.
>Whitesnake enunciates his doubts and misgivings
Whitesnake is sentient.

His issues were with faith and fate and why things have to happen the way they do, not with coping with blaming himself about perlas death.

Re-read the manga.
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>>150294762
Ehh visibly secure but it's all a show. Dio is all about the show.
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>>150294692
>they forget that dio wasn't a sexual person at all
Your headcanon is asexual DIO??? Hahahahaha faggot
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>>150294692
>dio wasn't a sexual person at all
im not discrediting everything you said but this sentence alone either tells me you're a speedreader, you aren't very good at reading between the lines, or you're a repressed homo yourself
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>>150294748
Quality post
>>150294762
Hes not, what the hell have YOU been reading? Certainly not the semi-canon diary of dio himself.
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>>150294809
>>150294816
>Dio makes a pose in a series where poses like that are prevalent
>Must mean hes sexual.

Read the fucking manga you dumb twats. He sees women as objects and abhors desire and lust. I fucking hate animeonlines.
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>>150294773
thaaaaaaaaaaats pretty on point
the closest to jonathan's level was pucci, who was actually similar to jonathan in a lot of aspects but i think what makes their relationship to dio different is that from the outset jonathan was dio's obstacle to greatness and that despite his growing respect for him, dio had to destroy jonathan for his ambitions. pucci was not an obstacle but a part of his plan, and therefore dio was able to form a much more positive(?) relationship with him and be more open with him.
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>>150294769
Jotaro doesn't play video games, thats why Joseph trash talks him for being a casual
He does like funky music,Zumo and nature documentaries
Joseph was pretty much the same as him but he was a drop out student
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>>150294864
i misread jotaro as josuke, i'm sorry, i'm an idiot
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kira is literally me
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>>150294861
>and abhors desire and lust.
>I fucking hate animeonlines.
i just called you a speedreader, do you think i haven't read the manga? anyway stay mad
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>>150294804
It was completely related to sex and relationships. And while Araki shut down plenty of things in that interview (such as Jotaro and Josuke having an incestual affair) he explicitly said that DIO was bisexual of his own accord.

And Whitesnake is Pucci's own soul, who he uses at various points to speak for him and carry out his will and so on. Whitesnake saying shit that Pucci himself wouldn't is a sign that he's deeply conflicted inside.

And don't you go telling me to read the manga when I'm growing increasingly sure you're a speedreader. Pucci's character was shown to be based on guilt with the Perla thing when he found her corpse and fell into despair, blaming himself. It was then that he remembered DIO's talk about fate and latched onto it, choosing to try and blame fate instead of himself to spare himself the guilt. This isn't very hard to figure out.
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>>150294809
Its not headcanon. Dio is canonically heterosexual by virtue of him having children, but its explicitly stated many times that he has never loved a woman and sees them as nothing more than an object to house his child and tools to further his agenda.

I doubt dio would have wasted his time fucking women anyway by P3 instead of just somehow flesh-budding his seed into their wombs.
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>>150294889
>During a date, he's always thinking "I just want to go home."
i never thought i would say this, but i think kira and i are on sync
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>>150294769
That's like every Jojo character from part 3 onward
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>>150294976
>dio
>heterosexual
alrighty mate
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>>150294976
i wonder if this is the guy who said jotaro didnt get triggered by kira a couple of threads ago
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>>150294861
Alright, a quick tally.
Dio has made romantic/sexual advances on two girls in Phantom Blood, one being Erina and one being Poco's sister.
In Stardust Crusaders, multiple naked and beautiful women are seen laying around in DIO's bed.
DIO has fathered at least four illegitimate children.
DIO is overwhelmingly seen shirtless, regularly fondling his body. In one scene he affectionately caresses a clearly-aroused girl before draining her of blood.
DIO chooses to wear clothing that draws attention to his crotch.
DIO has been described by multiple men as alluring and sensual, and appears to be deliberately presenting himself as such.

What information do you have that suggests DIO's actually grossed out by icky sex and only wants babies?
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Why must we have a new shitposting faggot EVERY DAY?
>Dio isn't sexual
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>>150294889
>getting shit on your girlfriend
wtf i hate kira now
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>>150294954
>He explicted state dio was bisexual of his own accord.
He literally did not. He was talking about relationships and love, not sex. The interviewer wanted the answer out of araki that you wanted and seem to be hellbent on accepting as fact.

Whitesnake is a sentient being that is influenced directly by puccis will. You cannot say whitesnake is saying shit pucci himself cannot say, because that detracts from his character based on your own perception of him and not whats actually stated canon. What IS explicit canon is that hes a sentient being with his own mind and thoughts, which means he has his own personality.

I'm growing increasingly sure you have no idea what the hell you're talking about when Pucci went to god to find absolution and peace of mind before getting forced to handle what fate and faith means by getting dealt the worst hand in life from a string of events that were mostly out of his control. He had no solid reason to blame himself given the situation and his understanding that he went about it as carefully and thoughtfully as he possibly could have.

He didn't "Choose to blame fate" He was forced to either
1. Accept "fate" and "Gravity" as explained by both dio AND the christian faith he had already devoted himself to, and use dios vision to find a way to manipulate "Fate", or
2. Rationalize nihilistically that life has no meaning because the random string of events that happened leading up to that point in life couldn't possibly entirely be his fault.
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>>150295112
>Whitesnake is a sentient being that is influenced directly by puccis will. You cannot say whitesnake is saying shit pucci himself cannot say, because that detracts from his character based on your own perception of him and not whats actually stated canon. What IS explicit canon is that hes a sentient being with his own mind and thoughts, which means he has his own personality.
Nigger stands are literally your soul. That's what makes Whitesnake so interesting to begin with, and why you're spouting bullshit
>B-b-but the ones that talk
Subconcious mind is a think
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>>150295112
i admit that watching you was funny at first but now i'm just thinking you're delusional
whatever have fun being mad lol
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>>150295080
I honestly don't know if it's shitposting or serious, he seems really invested.

>>150295112
He was talking about both, as was she. Anyway:

I am increasingly certain you need to reread before you go passing your really out-there analysis as fact. Look at this panel, Pucci is clearly distraught over what happened because of his actions and is on the verge of blaming himself for everything when he remembers DIO. There was shit that he and anyone else couldn't have predicted, but it was ultimately his own actions that led to Perla killing herself. This understandably weighed heavily on him.

His obsession with fate was to try and resolve this inner conflict and to make everyone else do the same - to accept that some things were inevitable and that they should peacefully come to terms with them rather than blaming themselves or other sources.
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>>150295112
>Pucci can LOVE and HAVE RELATIONSHIPS with both men and women, but sex repulses him cause I say so
...
>He had no solid reason to blame himself given the situation and his understanding that he went about it as carefully and thoughtfully as he possibly could have.
Yup, no shady stuff such as speaking with the goddamn KKK
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since we're on the topic of dio's charisma....
just how many characters state blatant attraction to dio in the series?
off the top of my head, i can only think of
-mariah
-n'doul
-avdol
-vanilla ice
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>>150295018
Worthless post take this (you) and kill yourself degenerate.
>>150295043
Jotaro did get triggered, hes living autism.
>>150295067
>Made two advances
1. He advanced on erina and Pocos sister literally just to piss Johnathan off.
2. I said hes heterosexual by virtue of him bearing children. See dumbfuck memearrow spouter above.
3. Those women in SDC were his food.
4. Joseph is seen with a crop top and fondles his AND ceasars body regularly hes not fucking gay now is he? This is jojo, dumbass. Mute point.
5. Another mute point.
6. Gonna need a source on that one anyway because I don't remember anyone calling him "Sensual" as opposed to "Charismatic." him "Deliberately presenting himself" that way is your own faggot ass mind getting gay over him yourself.

>What informaiton
None you fucking shithead because thats not the point I'm making. Dio has stated several times in various parts that he sees women as nothing more than tools and hosts for children. I never said hes not heterosexual, but that hes not a man who bothers himself with sexual shit much if at all, and that hes certainly not gay.
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>>150295251
>Pucci can have
Dio*
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Stands can be sentient separate from the user ya know.
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>>150295302
No they can't. They are the user's soul. That's the whole point of a LOT of fights in 3, 5, 6 and 7
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>>150295245
thank you for posting this with image, because i was looking for my image file for this page and about to say the exact god damn thing
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>>150295153
Speaking of interesting stands, do you think Surface operates in a similar way? It seems to embody Hazemada's self-loathing in that it does what he tells it to and doesn't seem capable of outright refusing an order, but it also clearly disrespects and insults him endlessly.
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>>150295287
i can't believe you're spending this much effort to convince us dio is a pure man who only fucks in the missionary position to have children
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>>150295360
Yep, I'd say that. Pucci/Whitesnake are a better Hazamada/Surface
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>>150295360
I thought Surface kind of took on the personality of the person it was assuming the form of to a certain extent and that's why it acts like a shithead to him
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>>150295360
it could be, but araki is weird and doesn't respect his own rules when it comes to certain stands. cheap trick for example, who seems to be his very own creature and not another person's soul, or foo fighters don't respect the rules
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>>150295287
You called people names five times in that one post. Is this really worth getting so upset over?
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>>150295251
Yeah cus he knew they were the KKK, dumbfuck.
>>150295185
Then quit replying you worthless waste of a poster. You're probably this dumb faggot. >>150295018

>>150295153
Stands are literally your life energy manifesting itself according to your will. That doesn't mean they cant be sentient, because whitesnake literally proves they can be. Read up on what the fuck sentience actually means. Being able to talk doesn't make you sentient and thats not my arguement.
>>150295245
>Passing your really out-there analysis as fact
Coming from the guy that said dios bisexual because araki said he could love either a guy or girl? right AFTER saying Pucci and Johnathan were the only ones he could have loved? When he clearly wasn't gay for johnathan? Pot and the kettle dude.

He wasn't about to "Blame everything on himself" He was pissed off because its not fair that things had to happen the way they did because it wasn't her fault. I'm not saying he wasn't trying to find something to blame but he didn't "Blame fate" he was forced to be reminded of it by dio in this very panel because it was literally manifesting itself by her death regardless of his careful planning in having WR and her break up.
>There was shit that literally he and nobody else could have predicted
Which is my point, and restated by pucci himself several times in the manga, which ties directly into his acceptance of fate and his admiration of dio for being the master of his own.

He never rationalizes it was "Ultimately his own actions that led to perla killing herself." because it fucking wasn't. This didn't "Understandibly weigh heavily" any more than one pubble in one fucking panel weighed against the rest of his monolouge and dialouge with dio about faith and fate.
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>>150295379
Maybe it's Vanilla Ice freaking out over his crush fucking twenty boys and girls a week
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did terunosuke deserved to be turned into a book? he never killed anyone
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>>150295494
literally this image
>>150294863
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>>150295379
Not what I'm doing and not why I'm upset. People like you make these threads shit. You're not discussing jojo with me, you're trying to twist my words and wasting your time posting. At least >>150295245
has some semblance of an idea what the fuck hes talking about.
>>150295456
See previous post.
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>>150295506
no
its a shame too i loved his character design
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>>150295506
Mess with Josuke's family and you're fucking screwed
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>>150295346
Yeah now bring the other images where he says "Oh god its all my fault its my fault." several times and actually aid in the discussion.

Oh wait you can't because they don't exist and you have nothing meaningful to contribute.
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>>150295671
obviously he wouldnt say it after that scene considering he remembers dio and is immediately says "wait its not my fault its gravity" and continues to for the rest of the series as rationalization
if you're gonna hit the king you better kill him anon
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>>150295476
A lot of his behavior towards Jonathan can easily be construed as warped sexuality. Look how much time he spends looking at and fondling Jonathan's naked torso while talking to him, for instance. Hell, he actually becomes MORE sexual after taking Jonathan's body - in PB he's always fully-clothed aside from the time his clothes burned off, and makes unrequited advances on two girls and is hurt and offended when they rebuff him. In SDC he spends most of his time virtually naked and surrounded by completely-naked women, at least four of which he had sex with.

Anyway, that panel explicitly has him blaming himself. He says 'I should be the one who's damned' before DIO re-enters his thoughts and reminds him of that fate/gravity shit that were a more palatable explanation for what happened rather than taking all the responsibility himself.
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>>150295772
He literally doesn't say "wait its not my fault." Because he wasn't trying to come to grips with it being his fault. He was trying to understand why fucking sister died when it clearly wasn't her fault. She was only in love but her ultimate fate was death.

Why?

Oh, thats right, Fate. Gravity. Dio. Makes fucking sense, dunnit?
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>>150295828
here you go
>>150295786
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>>150295786
That panel is not as much him trying to cope with guilt from him thinking hes the one who directly caused her death as much as it is continued anger that she had to die because it WASN'T Her fault. Which is literally stated in the very next panel. That's the important takeaway and ties directly into the other related themes of fate and faith, not the baseless notion that puccis constantly "Lying to himself."

You're the one whos over-analyzing by somehow deriving some depth of him feeling extreme guilt that serves as the "Bases of his character and development." based off one panel.
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>>150295786
Btw I didn't acknlowedge the bulk of your post because its your own foolish interpretation of johnathan and dios relationship as opposed to factual canon. In case you were wondering before the "but whuddabout that other thing I said? You're not replying to that because you must be wrong somehow."
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steel ball run was pretty great
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>>150295978
Yes it was. Gyro was best jobro, and both JOhnny and Diego were breaths of fresh air.
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>>150295999
yeah, gyro is definitely one of my favorite jojo characters of all time at this point. his death was definitely the hardest for me to take. even though i knew he was going to die just because he's a zeppeli and if you're a zeppeli you die.
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>>150295920
Look at the panels again. Pucci is clearly upset over Perla's death (and his own role he played in it, clearly expressed by him saying he should be the one punished and not her, as well as in the preceding panels where he asked himself why he'd wanted to become a Priest and why he'd listened to that woman's confession) and is anguished and despairing, with his emotions and expression suddenly changing as he remembers DIO.

And it's not based off one panel either, Pucci was feeling guilt and conflict all throughout the Heavy Weather flashback which culminated in him panicking and hiring the detective, which only made things worse for him and everyone else. Not to mention Whitesnake as I mentioned before, and how it seems to voice shit Pucci thinks but won't admit.
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>>150295954
So you're going to declare that my post is stupid without actually saying why or doing anything to argue your own. Righto.
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>>150283389
>Diego is a well-written character, but this is why I just don't like him that much
This is the weirdest thing I've ever read.
Diego is my favorite Dio because it didn't take 700 chapters to make him an actual character like the original Dio.
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>>150296187
this
diego is great i love him
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>>150296204
He's a cute little bastard, I loved all his scenes.
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>>150296095
Your assumption that pucci had such a hard time coming to grips with his partial blame in perlas death IS based on that you're using that one panel. Notice how you didn't have any others from the exposition you mentioned to back it up? Because there are none.

The exposition you're referring to again is his reflection on the situation given its context regarding how fate had brought the two together just to result in the tragedy that followed, NOT him feeling guilty himself about believing he was ultimately the one who killed perla. This is what builds into his development as the turning point where he decided he wouldn't be a slave of fate after finding dio, one who was the master of his own fate THe guilt of what happened to perla and WR was not some defining characteristic of his development that would lead one to believe he "constantly lies to himself" which is something you only pulled out of your ass to defend your gayboy fantasies.
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>>150296142
Yeah because its literally your own interpretation of johnathan and dios relationship and not FACTUAL evidence that dio was homosexual or had any sexual feelings toward Johnathan. Which is what I fucking said it the post you replied to.

Fucking. Called it.
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>>150296263
one thing i dont understand is why araki decided MAKE HIM A DINOSAUR
i mean i love scary monsters but i still dont really get why he decided that of all things
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>>150294260
I agree with you.
I think all other girls are done well and believable, even Karera, but Daiya had a shallow purpose in the story and then was completely dropped as a character afterwards.
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>>150296288
I mentioned the other numerous times he was shown feeling guilt in the same post, my man. And settle down there, guilt and despair being an inherent part of Pucci's character (as opposed to him being nothing but the boring and stoic guy who won't be a slave of fate by making everyone slaves of fate you see him as) doesn't have anything to do with 'gayboy fantasies.' Are you mental?

And once again, you're aggressively insisting that my take on things that happened is only my take, but you're refusing to actually argue or address what's actually shown, and trying to strip away any depth or subtexts that might be there.

I think I'm going to drop this now, it's clear from the start that you never wanted to actually discuss anything that was in the comic and were only interested in insulting people who did while offering no actual arguments to stuff that made you uncomfortable.
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>>150296095
And whitesnake isn't "Puccis voice that says shit he wont admit." And I defy you to prove that it is. Because one of the most interesting traits about WhiteSnake was that he was one of the few if not only sentient stands that had their own personality and thoughts seperate from puccis influence while also connected to his soul and life energy.
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>>150296288
>constantly lies to himself
>which is something you only pulled out of your ass to defend your gayboy fantasies.
is this retard serious?
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>>150296497
just stop replying
he mad
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>>150296444
Karera's creepiness was done well because she clearly had other aspects to her personality other than 'muh Secchan'. She was established as a tricky and evasive chick who swindled people out of food and money, and who definitely wasn't above using Gappy for her own ends even if she did care about him. And there are a lot of unresolved threads about her too, she'll definitely be back later.

I struggle to think of anything about Daiya that didn't hinge on her inexplicable (and irreverent, given that it was dropped afterwards) feelings for Gappy. She doesn't even interact with the other Higashikatas as much as Hato and Joshu do.
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>>150296462
I've literally argued exactly FROM what is shown in the panel you used to try to argue for your own foolish notion that "Guilt and dispair" are inherent parts of puccis character when literally all you have to argue with is one panel from one flashback.

I've explained to you that fate and faith were the defining characteristics surrounding pucci and his development with your own page by showing you the connection it made as a key turning point in his life and even defied you to prove me otherwise and you can't. Which is why youre dropping the arguement. Because you HAVE no arguement. The only reason you feel guilt and despair were his defining developmental traits was to further what you said in another post "Given he constalty lies to himself and is always in despair and guilt." which you've YET to back up, to defend the idea that he and dio were gayboys who fucked one another in the actual canon. Which is fucking retarded.

Its your own stupid ass interpretation I'm defying with your own material.
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>>150296497
>>150296545
Samefagging. If you think he constantly lies to himself the fucking prove it.
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>>150296545
>>150296484
He's replied to the last two of my posts two times (with nine minutes passing in between one of them) two times each, I don't know what the hell is going on here but I hope it stops from now on.
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>>150296592
try again dumbass
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>>150296592
I'm not samefagging and neither are they.

You're losing more dignity and credibility with every post and multiple people are taking note of it.
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>>150296614
>>150296650
Then you're both fucking retarded. Again, prove hes constantly lying to himself and that thats a defining trait of his character.

Heres your chance to try to defend your foolish gayboy fantasies.

Protip: You can't.
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>>150296672
>>150296614
>>150296650

>I hope he doesn't know what a proxy is.
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>>150296673
you got me anon, all i want to do all day is fantasize about gayboys, how will i go on living
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>>150296715
By not trying to force the stupid fucking idea that pucci and dio are canonically gay together.
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>>150296704
i'm on a college lab computer, can't exactly proxy from here
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>>150296742
1. Yes you can.
2. I have no reason to believe you, and won't.
3. typing without using capitalization and punctuation to disguise who you are on 4chan is the oldest trick in the book
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>>150296704
Do you really think that people would care so much about the outcome of an argument about a fictional characters motivation that they'd use proxies to pretend to be multiple people?

The only one who cares that much here is you, dude. Calm down.
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>>150296673
i'm wondering how somebody can miss such a big part of pucci's character?

is this the power of speedreading?
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>>150296777
?????????????????????????????????????????????
is this nigga for real
this is like tumblr levels of piss and vinegar
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>>150296778
>>150296782
These two aren't samefagging.

And I only care so much about this because trying to defend pucci and dio being canon gay is fucking retarded. And the fact that hes directly fucking up my favorite villains character by doing so its helping.

>>150296782
For the third fucking time. Prove it.
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>>150296553
I wonder if there's even a way to redeem Daiya at this point. She doesn't have any dynamic with the characters and hasn't been set up to do anything later either. Anything would feel shoehorned.

Even Norisuke's "I'll kill Josuke for trying to fug my daughter" thing was dropped instantly.
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>>150296782
I think his problem is that he took everything Pucci said at face-value and didn't read between the lines. Even when it's clear that Pucci's resolve and his faith in himself aren't at all unshakable (his prime-numbers panic-attacks, Whitesnake, the sense of guilt all throughout the Heavy Weather flashback) he's already made his mind up about what the correct depiction of Pucci is, and has got the idea that diversions from the correct depiction of Pucci are fundamentally gay.

Hell, I think this whole mess actually started because he misinterpreted DIO as uninterested in sex, and somehow that warped into talk about Pucci not having any internal guilt or repression.
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>>150296823
>Pucci is my favorite villain
>But I don't actually know anything about him because I have autism
What did he mean by this
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>>150296906
i'll go with this theory
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>>150296896
I doubt Araki will try, honestly. There are more interesting characters who've got more unresolved plot-threads, Daiya's just there to look cute and probably eventually die.

And yeah, that thing with Norisuke was weird. Norisuke in general seemed really off at the start, it's like Araki decided to change his role in the story after that arc.

>>150296846
That was a joke, I'm not that guy and just quoted every single consecutive post (including a couple of my own) for a giggle.
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>>150296950
i realized it after posting, i'm too lazy to delete now. its cool.
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post scenes that make you tear up
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>>150296906
No, this all started because you used the notion that pucci "Constantly lies to himself." and is "Constantly wrapped in internal guilt and repressed emotion." as a defense for Pucci and Dio having a homosexual relationship.

which is fucking stupid. And makes you stupid. And you've still yet to back it up with anything but one panel from one page.

Your problem is that you're reading too much in between the lines for shit that isn't there and trying to make me come off as ignorant of puccis character for it or unwilling to accept other ideas that you pose.

I've asked you several times to show me how you've come to believe what you believe about pucci and you've failed to do so every single time. I've never once said pucci never held internal guilt and never insisted that my depiction of him was correct, merely showed you my reasoning behind his character and showed you why I think your own reasoning is flawed, and implored you to prove otherwise. You've STILL yet to do so.
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>>150296906
>>150296933
>>150296846
And your little buttbuddy agreeing with everything you say and not contributing isn't helping your arguement either.

I've never said puccis "Faith and resolve in himself was unshakeable." You've been mincing my words this entire time and have still yet to defend your own interpretation of puccis character, while vehemently against my own insistence of how he developed.
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>>150297136
pretty sure its more than one person
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>>150297089
I used it to suggest there was a subtext to make it creepy, not that they were gay boyfriends who loved each other. Scroll up.
>I got the impression there was an undertone of creepy sexuality in play, even if neither DIO nor Pucci ever actually made any moves on each other.
This is it. This is what you got so upset over.
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>>150297158
And I'm pretty sure more than one person have the capacity to be stupid. All I want is for you people to prove to me that your own interpretation of pucci being this excessively emotionally repressive and guiltful individual has some basis in what actually happened in the manga.

And I'm only doing that because using that notion to argue that its possible he had a gay relationship with dio is a both foolishly headcanon fanboy nonsense and degrading of puccis character.
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>>150297158
I think it's at least three, not including myself, or the people who chimed in once to laugh and then dropped it.

It must be really difficult to be the only right person about Pucci's motivation in the world.
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generals are not allowed.
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>>150297223
The panel has already been posted, agreed with by others, and misinterpreted and disregarded by you.

Nothing was ever going to change your mind.
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>>150297208
Literally all it would take for me to believe you would be 2 or 3 pages showing pucci vehemetly repressing his emotions or depressing himself with guilt to see how you see pucci.

And I'm confident you can't do that because I love pucci as a character and know hes not some self-depricating creepily sexual oddball whos trying to hide from his past. Thats the exact opposite of his development from my perspective, and I've explained why several times.
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>>150297284
Its literally ONE panel. Your arguement is stemming from ONE panel and two random jackasses who only vauegly agreed with you on the internet. If you seriously think thats enough for me to sway my ideas surrounding my favorite jojo villain and his development and character then you're fucking bonkers and missing the point of these threads in the first place.
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>>150297287
Alrighty, if you want to see him struggling to repress his emotions then look at him freaking out and counting down prime numbers, and if you want to see him feeling guilt then look at the panel where he says he should be damned for getting Perla killed. Done and done.

Now I'm going to pretend you finally showed an iota of grace and finally dropped this.
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>>150294889
>"I just want to go home."
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>>150297284
Seriously how the hell am I in the wrong for not just rolling over and accepting your interpretation of puccis character based on ONE panel and 2 people agreeing with you? Are you completely serious right now? I'm STILL waiting on those few pages where you prove that pucci is what you say he is. You could have done that so long ago, but didn't. And I suspect its because you can't.
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>people still doubt dio is bi
http://ls57tiger.freepgs.com/jojo/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=6796
>"Now that you mention it, I think I might've had something like that in mind when I drew it (laugh). But Dio's sort of a composed character that could go either way. He could go with a man or a woman."
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>>150295506
Josuke has no sense of right or wrong
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>>150297287
Pucci's stand is literally a BDSM prostitute though.
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>>150297382
Now you've done it. He'll start autistically shrieking about how DIO isn't gay and how Araki never said nuffin.

And I thought the Pucci talk was bad.
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today on /jojo/: anon derails the thread to convince us that pucci isn't canonically gay nor has ever had gay thoughts (as if that's gonna stop the fujos or it even matters that much for his character) and that he is a perfectly stable man with no repressed feelings
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>>150297367
Counting to prime numbers is a mechanism for dealing with anxiety and maintaining a level head, not repressing guilt or emotions. He only ever does it in stressful situaitons. And I've explained to you that one panel where he talks about how you can't base an entire characters development and character of "Constantly feeling guilty" On ONE PANEL while being DIRECTLY followed by anger that he fate was death when it wasn't her fault because she was just falling in love.

Heres more proof that you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
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>>150297490
It's not so much the former that's the issue (Pucci's sexuality or lack thereof is at most a side-detail of the character that was never touched on in the comic) but the latter.

The asexual DIO shit was even weirder, though.
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>>150297497
Anxiety is an emotion.
Counting prime numbers to deal with anxiety is an explicit and overt way of repressing an unwanted emotion.
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>>150297490
this triggers the pucci-anon
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>>150297460
>>150297367
And on the topic of white snake being a result of his "repressing emotions and guilt." and "Expressing what hes too afraid to express." You're right sadly, but only half-right. He doesn't use white snake to "Say what hes to afraid to admit." Whitesnake is just his own blend of asshole and expresses puccis anger for him because hes so reserved.
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>>150297542
I'll give you that. But its not repressing any kind of guilt, and its the only method he ever employs to repress any of his emotions. Hes just naturally reserved, not a repressive individual. Also, its natural to repress anxiety, its a negative emotion.

>>150297555
You're right I was wrong this page makes pucci gay.
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>>150297561
>>150297497
>citing the fucking wiki
>shitting on people for citing canon panels because MUH 1 PANEL even though said panel is obviously an important one
The wiki is fan-made. And even then, it's more right than you are and what I said about Whitesnake is spot-on, Whitesnake vocalizing Pucci's inner emotions more freely than its user is EXACTLY saying stuff that Pucci himself wouldn't admit.
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>>150297561
>>150297628
So now that you have that White Snake is a sentient being that expresses puccis anger and emotions of his own volution given puccis reserved nature, and that he uses one method of repressing anxiety to calm himself in stressful situations.

Do you stand by this and this alone to claim hes a "Guilty, remorseful and repressive character." and that these are key aspects of his development?
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>Pucci is my favorite villain
>This autismo screeching about his own bullshit interpretation which is so different to the accepted one is making me embarrassed about this
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>>150297689
>that pic
delete
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>>150297689
rare pucci
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>>150297689
i feel you deeply
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>>150297689
>>150297647

Yeah but the wiki was made by people who actually analyzed his character instead of just using one panel to say hes some brooding guilty remorseful repressive character on an imageboard. Why is it so hard for you to accept that whitesnake vocalizing puccis anger and occasional strife isn't just him repressing his emotions instead of a sentient being being a twat and exposing a reserved villain because he himself is an asshole?

>>150297689
>My view falls in line with the "Accepted one" so this guys doesn't mean shit even though I can't even back mine up.
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>>150297756
Well-done Pucci
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>>150297689
>>150297762

Still waiting on you guys to show me how hes constantly guilty and lying to himself btw.
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>>150297063
Entire ending of SO
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>>150297799
>you will never lick pucci's frosting like dio
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>>150297768
People in this thread actually analyzed his character and posted it to you multiple times while you threw a long and drawn-out tantrum, called them faggots, tried to turn the argument into shipping-garbage instead of actual character-discussion, and dismissed the canon pages they showed you. The only time you've taken even the slightest hint of a backward step is when you decided to look at the wiki - which, might I add, is fan-written - and found that it was repeating what other people were saying, in that repressing anxiety is a form of repression and that Whitesnake expressed Pucci's anger and disgust that he wouldn't express himself.
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>>150295276
Enya?
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>>150295276
While it isn't stated, DIO was obviously extremely popular with women. Hol Horse comments on how none of them put up a fight, I think that one of them was even shown reverently walking towards him and moaning while he drained all her blood. And he had at least four children, too.

Pucci also described DIO as beautiful in a flashback.
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>>150297916
i don't want to prove his point but you don't have to be gay to notice that
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>>150295276
>The only person charmed by Giorno was a guido who smells like smegma
You have 10 seconds to defend this.
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>>150297946
DIO's eyebrows are shit
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>>150297852
>Actually analyzed his character.
Oh did they? I remember you people just agreeing with one shithead who used ONE panel to defend his interpretation and immediately discreiting mine for calling you out on your own dumb bullshit. You yourself have NEVER taken a step backward from your own stance and even tried to look at pucci as something other than what you've interpreted him as. I even gave you that whitesnake expresses his emotions, given hes a sentient being and does it because of his own fucked up personality and NOT because pucci is a repressive character. I refuse to accept that because he counts to prime numbers when hes anxious that hes "Repressive" and that Whitesnake expresses "What he wouldn't himself." Just because you say its so.

You can't accept at all that pucci might just be a reserved guy whos stand likes to fuck with him and isn't some guilt-ridden emotionally repressed sociopat whos somehow "lying to himself" when he never does. You've never even TRIED to think of anything aside from that and you dare say I'm the one who wont try to see it from your perspective?

All you've done is crawl to your little buddies and jerk each other off with nothing but your own foolish notions of who you think he is to comfort each other.
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>>150297989
the way this person talks is like an anime supervillain
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>>150297989
More repressed than Pucci: the anon
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>>150297988
he's trying his best okay
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>>150297999
Man that was a good post have this (you)
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>>150297999
Don't be silly, Anon. He doesn't sound like that at all.

Anime supervillains are charismatic.
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>>150298039
Not all of them, like Diavalo or Kira. But Pucci can somehow be charismatic but emotionally repressive and plauged with guilty at the same time lol.
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What color would DIO's pubes be? Blue like Jonathan, or would they have gone blond over time?
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>>150297999
Actually he talks like the big cliched hero who 'fights for what he believes in'.

Over the internet, granted.
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>>150295476
>he knew they were the KKK,
How does that make it better?
>Stands are literally your life energy manifesting itself according to your will. That doesn't mean they cant be sentient
You know what, I think those sentences contradict, but that'd be getting into semantics, so let's not
Anyway, as you said, stands carry your will, so Whitesnake being such a violent sinner just proves my point further. And even if it somehow went "against" Pucci, the fact that he developed a "sentient" stand at all (even more, one that goes against him) just shows even more how troubled he truly is
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>>150298017
Keep on circlejerkin. Pucci isn't repressive or guilt-ridden. Hes reserved but confident, and increasingly so as he develops.
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>>150298074
He'd probably dye or shave them
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>>150297966
Call me when DIO makes the devil his bitch
Giorno > DIO
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>>150298102
That was a joke, idiot. He didn't know it was the KKK. And those sentences contradicting are why White Snake is badass. Hes his own sentient being with his own personality who likes to fuck with Pucci by revealing more about him and his emotions unessecarily.

Whitesnake being himself doesn't prove anything other than araki decided he wanted a stand to have a personality of its own that can be seperate from his host. Just because you think it stems from pucci being "Troubled." doesn't mean its so.
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>>150298113
More in de nile than Pucci.
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>>150297989
The close-up panel where Pucci freaks out over his sisters corpse and cries out about how he should be the one being punished is actually significant, Anon. And look at you now, you're still doing every one of those things I just accused you of. You're still throwing a tantrum, you're still calling people names, you're still trying to make this about shipping, you're still denying that and the wiki and what everyone else is saying in here. And you're still embarrassing yourself.

Do yourself a favor and stop. When you reach this stage, even if the other person is wrong (and I really don't think I or the other people who chimed in are) then it does you no favors to keep it going.
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>>150298036
domo senpai
>>150298039
>>150298094
actually you're right on the money
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SHIZAAAAAA
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post diopucci
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>>150298206
What is it, JOJO? I'm on the toilet, can this wait?
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>>150298247
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>>150298247
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>>150298247
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>>150298247
Did they read erotica together too?
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>>150298307
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>>150298184
Yes, it is significant because it accentuates puccis fury at how fate operates against those not at fault and how he can't control it, given that he was the one who contacted the people to break them up and all she wanted was to love.

I'm not denying anything. I guess if you want to believe its significant enough to make him broodingly guilt-ridden then I clearly can't stop you or anyone else from believing that. But I'll be damned if I can't call you stupid over the internet for it. I'm not doing this to look good to you or anyone else. I'm doing it because I'm bored, can't sleep, and and upset about how you and your gaggle of pals can't see pucci my way and insist that your interpretation is the correct one. So you won't be able to stop me for calling you all stupid for it.

While also demeaning me for doing the same while trying to understand how you'd feel that way about him. Based on one panel. And 2 other randos on the internet vouching for you.

I guess I've just got to accept that pucci is who he say you is; A self-depricating guilt ridden repressive person who lies to himself to hide from his DEEP INNER PAIN because you guys say he is.

Psyche. You're all dumb.
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>>150298342
where is this from? reverse search gives no results
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>>150298264
>on the toilet
A tragedy waiting to happen
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>>150298247
>>150298287
>>150298307
>>150298318

Filthy degenerates. Pucci was pure.
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>>150298399
>faps to /lit/ porn in church
>pure
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>>150298399
>was
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>>150298247
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>>150298384
http://youdontknowthings.tumblr.com/post/52267117950#notes
heeeeeeeeeeeere you go
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>>150298188
Here have another one, I know you get your rocks off to em. I bet you're crankin it to some sweet DioxPucci images right now too huh? Here, imagine dios dick in that divit right there. ooooh yeah thats the good stuff.
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>>150298441
mad as fuck
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>>150298441
>>150298343
>>150298151
>>150298113
>>150298069
Guys, I think we might be picking on someone having a genuine psychological breakdown.

Should we stop?
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Hey guys isn't it great that Pucci has dio to comfort him from all the guilt and pain. He might not be able to stop lying to himself, but he can't lie to dio about how he feels~ <3

PuccixDio for life!
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>>150298485
>>150298495
its too good i love it
i dont want it to stop
i dont even like shipping i just want to piss him off
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>>150298485
What are you talking about? We ALL think Pucci need Dios dick to survive here. After all how would he have ever made it through that crushing guilt trip over perla without him?
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>>150298495
Have you ever been so mad about people disagreeing with you about Pucci's character that you saved a picture of them fighting alongside each other as 'otp.jpg' to try and discredit them
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>>150298495
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>>150298399
controversial book collections say otherwise anon
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>>150298528
>He doens't like shipping
Quit lying to yourself like pucci does all the time! You know you do! And the best part is its canon!
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>>150298528
I think we broke his spirit dude, look at this shit
>>150298542
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>>>150298542
god is real, and he takes the form of autistic breakdowns and bad trolling on 4chan
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From now on I'm going to spread the joy of PuccixDio as the best canon OTP in jojo in every thread! They were meant for heaven with each other.

>Tfw you will never have a universe where pucci isn't pathetic and depressive and dio isn't dead so they can live happily ever after.
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>>150298574
This guy is actually having a stroke, wew.
Also
>Saving these pictures
Thanks for confirming your repression.
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>>150298206
is it bad that i laughed really hard when this happened
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>>150298612
I can't get over that fucking Pucci character-discussion led to making a guy so angry he started to seek out, save and post pictures of a ship he hated to try and prove a point.

It's like watching the birth of a supervillain made out of shit.
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>>150298577
What on earth are you talking about? Pucci and dio is the best thing ever! Araki even said it himself, they're gay with each other. You should check out my tumblr blog. Its all sorts of images of sad pucci being sad because he doesn't know what to do about big bad fate messing his life up.

But DIO-sama comes and saves him every time!
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>>150298686
I was crying a little bit because I'm a big gay fag and the sad music and voice-acting got to me more than I expected, but I choked mid-sob and laughed at Joseph's stupid-ass screeching.
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>>150298669
this scene haha
say it with me now-
"CO-DE-PEN-DEN-CY!"
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>>150298688
>pucci discussions usually become /pol/ shit
>this time a supposed pucci fan is completely rewriting pucci's character to fit his delusions and sperging out because he's wrong
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>>150298730
i think its normal to react like you did, i feel like most everyone did the same.
i, however, could not. and i laughed. really, really loudly.
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>>150298688
>>150298612
>>150298577

No no I was completely wrong about pucci being a self-loathing repressed gayboy but now I've learned the error of my ways so I'm gonna share my newfound love with you! I'm totally keeping all these btw. I need them for..... research owo
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>>150298287
>>150298307
>>150298318
>>150298322
>>150298432
thank you for helping with the mind break
i love you all
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>>150298753
I dunno, I've had some really great Pucci discussions that didn't devolve into bullshit racial arguments. He's a really complex character and it's fun to talk about where he's coming from and why he turned out the way he did, I had a good chat about it with a guy here just the other day.

I think it depends on timing and luck more than the actual subject, sometimes you'll be able to have a really solid Pucci/Part 5/Part 3/Valentine discussion and sometimes you'll just have memes and shitflinging.
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>>150298775
i'm glad we're actually discussing jojo this time around but there is no reason to be this mad about people interpreting a character in a way you dont like
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>>150298753
Oh I was SOOO wrong! You're right, pucci was always lying to himself and riddled with guilt, I just can't believe I never saw how repressed and sad he was before! He really needed whitesnake to express how he felt because he certainly couldn't do it himself.

And of course he needed DIO-Sama to help him cope with all the crushing guilt!
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>>150298804
>The only one still posting DIO/Pucci fanart is the guy who hates DIO/Pucci with a passion
We turned this poor kid into a monster
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>>150298808
yeah, i've had great conversations about pucci on here too, just the other day. maybe it was with you
やっと会いたな、destiny彡
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>>150298686
can we agree that Smokey was a cool character concept that never got put to good use?
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>>150298858
a thousand times, YES
i really wish more had been done
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>>150298828
But this interpretation is soooooo much better, because it means DIO gets to get cuddles with pucci till he feels all better about what happened. Dio really saved puccis like tbhq.
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>>150298828
jesus christ that looks so unsanitary
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>>150298833
this is fucking hilarious
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>>150298858
Smokey was cute and was one of Joseph's few friends, it would've been cool to see more of him.

Part 2 really suffered from lack of a cool crew in general, Lisa Lisa didn't get to do anything, Messina and Loggins did even less (can't even remember which one died) and Caesar and Joseph barely seemed to interact before he died.
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>>150298957
I loved part 2 when I first read it, but after reading all the parts and revisiting it it's a really crappy poorly written part compared to the later ones.
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>>150298957
i agree
i especially loved the scenes where smokey was around erina, just showing what an awesome and kind person erina was. hell, she even adopted the kid. that shows how much compassion she has.
erina forever best girl
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>>150298833
>>150298932
I'm glad you're having fun, because you're gonna be seeing a lot more poor sad pucci getting cheered up by dio from now on! Look he brought a dinosaur to play with pucci with because he was having anxiety attacks after thinking about perla and couldn't stop counting prime numbers.
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>>150299020
Same, it's what really got me into the series (I liked Phantom Blood too, but wasn't hugely invested till the very end of it) and I really appreciate it for that, but it has its issues.

I still like it though, and think it cops too much shit here. Joseph and Caesar arguably had more interactions than Jotaro and Kakyoin, with the two of them teaming up to climb the pillar, kick ACDC out of Suzie, and making that icicle-rope when Joseph went over that cliff.

And the Pillar Men were cool, particularly Wamuu. Wish Araki used the noble enemy archetype more often.
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>>150299044
no one is complaining, i like their relationship and seeing them together, so feel free to post more. we didn't mean to bully you or anything so there's no need to react like a fucking child but yeah post more i guess
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>>150299044
Don't worry. His bro calmed his anxiety.
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>>150299020
Doesn't matter. It has best jojo, but sadly not best Canon OTP. Ceasar and Joseph arent even canonically gay, but Pucci and Dio sure are! Pucci NEEDS Dios dick or he wont be able to cope with his emotions and guilt, its poetry! Arakis a genuis.
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>>150299044
k
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>>150299118
Is the '19' Pucci's saying the number of inches of Weather's cock he's currently taking?
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>>150299098
You sweared and called me a name! You must be livid with me right now! I'm sorry, here take this pucci and dio picture to cheer you up, please try not to stay upset with me. I wish I could post the rest for you to skitter away with but this is a blue board~.
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Holy shit I just realised Lisa Lisa had Joseph and Caesar climb a pillar because it would be symbolic of them surmounting the pillar men.
Mind fucking blown.
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>>150299169
FORESHADOWING
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>>150299155
Yes.

At least he saved Perla from that anaconda.
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>>150299200
Yeah but it sucks he had to get so guilty and depressive afterwards.At least he didn't have to lie to himself about it anymore when he met DIO and they became lovers~. Only that sexy hunk of boy love could set little sad pucci right again.
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>>150299169
>The oil covering the erect pillar was symbolic of Joseph having to lube up his ass to stop it being ripped in half by his husbands
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>>150299084
P2 got me into JoJo as well. I thought P1 was really dull.
Looking back the first 3 parts are the weakest, lots of poor characterization but part 2/3 still have their humor.
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>>150299296
4 had a lot of humor too
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>>150299321
I like part 4.
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>>150299296
I think part 3 is where it really picks up, while it has its issues (all those fights, characters being sidelined) it really sets the scene for what the rest of JoJo will be like.

It gave us Polnareff too, whether you like him or not you have to admit he was the first case of a character who wasn't the MC being used to their full potential.
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>>150299357
thats cause it's gureito
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>>150299274
>Pucci laying in bed with dio was symbolic of their transition into being lovers after a he freed him from a life of sheer guilt and inner lies.
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VERY NICEU, SHIZA-CHAN!
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>Araki saw how Fujoshi loved part 5
>When part 6 wasn't doing as well he added Pucci's backstory with Dio
>they didn't take to it so it just became one more mark of part 6 shit posting forever
Fujo pandering was a mistake.
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>>150299405
>implying araki wasn't pandering to himself
He told me he faps to Johnny, too
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>>150299405
Idk what you're talking about Dio/Pucci is CANON stupid! Araki said it himself! Dio is bisexual and Pucci is so repressive of his inner feelings thanks to the guilt of his past that he needs Whitesnake to speak for him and Dio to comfort him sexually. Its Poetry!
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>>150299362
Best boy.
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>>150299480
not best but i still really like him
....he definitely changed a lot in 5 though
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>>150299405
Araki's honestly never really struck me as caring about what his fans want, in the best possible sense. He wants to tell a good story, and he wants people to enjoy that story, but he doesn't go for the low-hanging fruit and give people everything they want.

So stuff like:
>No Oldseph being de-aged by Alessi into Youngseph
>No Zeppeli character in VA
>No Star Platinum Requiem
>No mention of fan-favorites like Kakyoin (who he still gets letters about asking him to revive him, apparently)
>No Hol Horse in SBR
>No Joseph in SBR

Most other writers wouldn't be able to resist stuff like this.
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>>150299472
>still going
sad
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>>150299480
Polnareff was a fucking delight, I still think he single-handedly saved part 3.
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>>150299529
>Most other writers wouldn't be able to resist stuff like this.
I can definitely attest to that, in an age where anime success is heavily dependent on pandering to niche markets and doing exactly what the fans want ala sword art online.
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>>150299530
Thanks for the (you). I'll be sure to keep spewing this stupid ass view of pucci every thread I catch from now on until you love it or realize how dumb it is.
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>>150299529
Yeah. This is the exact reason Eyes of Heaven's plot is so shit.
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>>150299569
Manga doesn't work the same way as anime
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>>150299578
you broke character! aw man
enjoy your incoming ban buddy
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>>150299601
SAO was originally a novel. And also, yes it does. Half of the plots in SJ are altered because editors tell artists to alter their story to appeal to their fans more all the time. It's exactly why bleach turned into a steaming pile.
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>>150299529
He gave me all I wanted when he CONFIRMED that Dio was bisexual and made OTP CANON!
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>>150299567
him and avdol's antics always were a hoot
avdol was cool i'm sad he died
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>>150299601
This.
Anime is a whole different ballpark altogether.
Anime is shit
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>>150299613
Bans cant stop true love. I need to post dio/pucci like Pucci needs dio to cope with his tragic guilt and keep himself from lying to himself all the time! How else is he gonna keep from repressing his emotions when dios gone?
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>>150299661
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>150299703
>I leave these threads for just 5 hours and a new Naranciafag is born
Holy hell what have you guys done ?
Can't believe I missed this DIO and Pucci discussion
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>>150285555
I could never wrap my head around that stat. Is an A good or would an E be good?
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>>150298151
>A stand being the user's soul being a major plot point
>One of the weapons of the main villain, and his eventual demise
>But nah guise Araki is a hack and Pucci is to be taken at face value
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>>150299761
He's mad that Dio is bisexual and Pucci thinks he's beautiful.
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please move to the new thread. let's discuss peacefully this time around.
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>>150299773
A is best, E is worst.
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>>150299761
What do you mean? Everyone knows pucci was a depressive sadboy who can't control his anxiety and guilt from what happened to perla and needs DIO to help him by filling his boipussy. Thats why he was so depressively guilt-ridden throughout the series after dio died and kept lying to himself about all those things, remember?

>>150299764
>Unique poster count didnt go up
Who you tryina fool silly? Don't act like you don't know all about pucci already!
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>>150299764
>>150299838
Apparently there was an argument about Pucci and whether he had internalized guilt and issues or not, and the losing guy lost his mind and started spamming DIO/Pucci even though he hates it.

I miss all the good stuff.
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>>150299859
The first post in this thread was over 12 hours ago retard. People post here, leave and then come back.
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>>150299881
>I'm gonna say he lost because I had 2 people agree with me that he had internalized guilt and lied to himself all the time.
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>>150299764
AND THUS DIOPUCCIFAG WAS BORN
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>>150299925
>Hahaha guys this guy lost an arguement hes totally a meme right?
>R-right guys?
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>>150299912
What the hell do you think Pucci's motives were?
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>>150298833
>/Jojo/'s bizarre adventure is real, again
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>>150299529
>>No Zeppeli character in VA
But Bruno (or Blono for him) exists
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>>150299961
He felt guilty after perla died and wanted to make a world where he could bring her back so he wouldn't have to lie to himself anymore about not being the direct cause of her death! wouldn't have any power because he was sad and depressed after DIO died and had to use White Snake to express his emotions because he couldn't do it himself and kept lying to himself.

It wasn't anything stupid like wanting to make a world where everyone knew their past and future at once so fate had no power over them or any other dumb shit like that.
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>>150300023
>After all Fate wasn't really as important for Puccis character as the guilt he felt over perlas death that caused him to run into dios sweet arms and make the world he and dio dreamed of. Fate just happened to be part of dios plan and Pucci needed to please his big strong god.
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>>150299961
When he was arguing seriously he wasn't really arguing any points of his own, just screaming about how everyone elses were stupid.

I think he took Pucci completely at face-value and assumed that he was totally committed to his task, felt nothing about Perla's death other than anger it happened, and didn't ever second-guess himself or let himself be swayed by his own prejudices and hang-ups. I argued that Pucci felt a ton of guilt over the Perla thing and one of his main motives was the selfish desire to alleviate his own guilt by proving that fate was the culprit and not his own actions, and he couldn't handle that.
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>>150300023
>like wanting to make a world where everyone knew their past and future at once so fate had no power over them or any other dumb shit like that.
yes...because he felt guilt over being responsible for perla's death
nobody said he was depressed over dio's death
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>>150283020
Ive been gone for 2 days what did i miss?
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>>150300149
I argued that Fate being the cause of her death and pucci recognizing that was his main motive, not the "Ton of guilt." He felt over perla getting killed by a string of events he could have never possibly predicted. I never said the guilt had nothing to do with it, I said it was nowhere near as important to puccis motives as fate itself being the driving force of the universe that he wanted to usurp after meeting dio and learning he could master his own fate. I also never said he was fully committed and never second-guessed himself. Puccis desire wasn't to alleviate his own selfish guilt as much as it was making the world he thought dio envisioned so that nobody had to go through what he did.

But nah I guess I just take everything pucci says at face value and think Perlas death had nothing to do with his motives or character development. Its not like a villain can ever be righteous about something to lend to his quality or anything. He MUST be selfishly helping himself cope at every turn.
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>>150300150
That was part of the meme. I had thought the first guy was using Pucci "Lying to himself." and wanting to "Sooth his own guilt" was used as a point for validating a gay relationship between him and Dio, coupled with a bogus interpretation of an interview where araki "Confirmed dio was bisexual."

I was vehement about him firstly not even focusing on "Selfishly alleviating his guilt." and secondly Dio not being bisexual.
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>>150290165
Only if BtD goes after Madoka.

If it activates on Homura, she would keep repeating that hour without knowing.

Actually now that I'm thinking about it, would she remember BtD due to her own Rewind ability?
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>>150290535
Fuck you asshole I pointed that out weeks ago and you didn't say anything then.
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>>150300272
Well yeah, Pucci is kind of meant to come off as a bad person. It's what villains are for. What Weather said about Pucci was entirely correct, 'the worst kind of evil is one that doesn't know it's evil'.

Pucci was nowhere near as selfless as he thought he was, and while he might have thought that humanity would be happier knowing their fates in advance, he was also forcing his ideology on everyone in the world without warning and without consent. And Pucci's obsession with fate came AFTER the Perla thing as an excuse for himself to not take the blame for hiring men to drive his sister to suicide, with his actions afterwards being primarily for his own peace of mind.

I've said all of this before, and you responded by spamming DIOpucci fanart.
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>>150280325
Part 4 isn't shit
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>>150300327
>I-I was only mad because I thought he was shipping DIOPucci so I spammed it to teach him a lesson
>Also DIO is asexual lol
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>>150300403
Thats the thing, I don't agree with that. It doesn't make sense that he would only be obsessed with fate because of her death and not because of the combination of Dio entering his life and his devotion to the christian faith, where Fate and predermination are both common and universally known. I've wanted to stress that I simply don't feel he was selfishly trying to alleviate guilt instead of reacting accordingly to the tragedy in his life that he had no control of. He also states that various times throught the manga in discussions about fate, not having any control. That was what his motivation was to me, that lack of control that he experienced.

Like I said I truly don't think he blamed himself for what happened after the fact and after he devoted himself to opposing fate, given his intricate understandings of its workings.

Maybe its a difference between whether or not we feel he should. I seriously don't think he should have felt guilty anymore by the time SO took place. I think he also recognized that himself, which is why its hard for me to accept that all hes doing is selfishly curving that guilty instead of following his values.
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>>150300537
I'll actually admit guilt to this. I was mostly mad because I thought it was a justification for gay shit. I've already gotten my problem with the idea that his motive was primarily to stifle his own guilt that he felt, off my chest.

I don't think he felt guilty about what happened after the flashback. I don't remember anything outside of the flashbacks expressing or repressing that guilt from pucci.
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