Seacats

I want to make Rosa my mother-in-law!

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Everyone is Innocent.

I want to stick my dick in Maria.

>>150195335
>at 9 that's the age you should start thinking about boys and dicks
Where are all these 9 year olds running around looking for dick?

>>150195413
Me.

Why is Bern evil? I thought she was on my side? Why is Battora suddenly helping Beato? Hurry up and go back home. Your imouto is waiting for you.

>>150195335
Maria did nothing wrong. She didn't deserve anything that happened to her.

Maria did everything wrong. She deserved everything that happned to her.

Magic doesn't exists.

>>150195413
I didn't know dicks exist until I had biology classes in middle school.

>>150197182
Are you a qt grill?

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>>150197316
Are you watching Yuri on Ice?

>>150197432
Why would I watch a show about homos ice skating?

>non-existant magics.

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>>150197774
Because homos are delicious.

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Besto witch

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I want to deito Lucifer.

>seacats thread
>no one wants to deito Lucifer yet
Where are you anon?

>>150199373
>>150199386
There you are

>>150196844
Bern is on your side though. She wants to expose the entire mystery for the reader, rather than keeping things ambiguous.

Wait a minute if Shannon is Kanon then why are they together next to each other even in scenes with Battler?

>>150199997
She's on my side but not Battler's right? Because that's how I see it.

>>150200261
The scene must been seen through the eyes of the detective or it doesn't matter.

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>>150195335
Posting best Seacat.

>>150195335
Because she wears a stupid little hat.

>>150200298
So I must self insert as Erika?
<Good>

>>150200298
I'm pretty sure they were together in Ep 1-4 even with Battler, unless you're telling me he wasn't the detective in those 4 eps.

>>150200261
So who was gay?

>>150200876
There has to be a scientific reason Trump got elected.

>>150200821
Name a specific scene where they appeared in front of him.

>>150200947
It's been a while so I might be wrong but I do kind of recall in episode 1 Kanon and Shannon in front of the cousins, Battler included, when Kanon was first introduced.

>>150201004
Kanon was alone when he was first introduced to Battler. Battler didn't meet Shannon until they arrived at the guest house. Kanon was not present at the time.

Shkanon was a popular theory for a reason even before the Chiru arcs.

>>150201121
>Shkanon was a popular theory for a reason even before the Chiru arcs.
I can see why but it's still ridiculous
I mean someone on the island should have noticed the two not existing at the same time.

>>150201226
Of course, but they probably all just played along. If that is less ridiculous, I don't know.

>>150201226
Indeed, which is why so many rejected it, but Genji, Kumasawa, and Nanjo were in on it, so you can rule them out. Krauss and Natsuhi never pay any mind to the servants anyway, so maybe it can slip by them as well. Gohda may or may have not known, if he did know he could have been threatened. As far as the others, they're only on the island for that short period before everyone starts dying.

Jessica is the only real headscratcher since she seems to be close to Shannon and it's hard to believe she wouldn't notice after all the time they spent together before the family conference.

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Everyday until we reach the golden land.

>>150201588
I never figured out what the golden land actually is or is supposed to represent.

>>150201520
Well they have different shifts, it's not like Shannon and Kanon always work together everyday so Jessica's case is believeable.

>>150201647
Nirvana.

Were there really bombs in the food?

>>150196954
Neither does grammar.

>>150200854
Kanon was totally a she.

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I want to fuck Lambdadelta!

So are there no official explanations on what really happened? All I find are theories on how the murders really happened.

>>150205115
Read the manga, dumbass.

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I enjoyed the anime

When R07 next anime adaptation?

>>150195335
I wanted to slap the shit out of her in episode 2. It balanced itself after that though.
She deserves pity.

>>150195335
>non-existant magics
How about you try saying that in red, bitch?

>>150199997
>She wants to expose the entire mystery for the reader
She wants to make it clear, but she won't spell everything out.
Didn't she say something like that when Clair thanked her for the body?

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>>150205184
>mfw Higanbana anime Fall 2017
(That's my prediction anyway)

>>150201226
>I mean someone on the island should have noticed the two not existing at the same time.
How often do people question things like that?
The servants helped them with work schedules. For what reason would someone need to see those two together?

>>150200854
Bern, Lambda, Erica.

Do you guys think Kinzo was an okay father before Beatrice died? Krauss was already around 14 and Eva 12 or so, so he was a dad for about a decade and a half while perfectly mentally stable.

>>150205115
Are you baiting? There's literally a book with official answers.
It's on the wiki too. How about you try opening it?

>>150201226
>it's another "I totally did not expect the number of people to be a lie" episode

>>150205543
>okay father
He might have been.
I doubt his old family was a top priority after meeting Beatrice though.

>>150195335
>That's not an excuse to be autistic.
You do know that she's autistic, right?

>>150206526
Yes

Shkanon is retarded so I dropped it at 7
Should I even bother with 8?

>>150206918
If you think it is, can you offer another satisfying explanation?

>>150207011
A witch did it.

>>150205873
Well no more than 17 people isn't a lie.

>>150207045
Then why did you ever read past 1?

>>150207011
George was the killer all along.

>>150207090
good enough
post them

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Never read this shit, but I'm guessing the loli is the killer. I was 8 in 1995, I remember Who Shot Mr. Burns. Having the child/baby be the killer is such a tired fucking """"""plot twist."""""""
Sorry if I sound grumpy, very deprived of sleep I am.

>>150207063
You know what I mean.

>>150207197
You're wrong

>>150207197
It's actually more unexpected yet retarded than that.

>>150207197
>loli is the killer
Wrong. Beatrice would not do that to her friend.
Maria's only role is to be her messenger and help her magic grow in power.

>>150207011
Kumasawa was Beatrice. It totally makes sense.

>>150207282
Kumasawa already is Virgilia

>>150207258
>unexpected
Only if you stop thinking.
>retarded
>He can't see the heart

>>150207197
You know what's more retarded? Having the cute, shy and soft spoken girl being the mastermind. Tired of reruns here.

>>150207282
Well, she is responsible for being her "magic teacher".

>>150207090
Jokes aside I can see George cooperating with Shannon.

>>150207326
It's not like it was one of her roles or anything, right?

When you found out?
The "love trial" made it obvious to me but I didn't want to believe

Yasu did nothing wrong.
Praise the eternal catbox!
Praise lady Beatrice!

>>150207406
Still a dumb plot twist

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>>150207197
Even if she was (she isn't) you should read it for the meta fuckery.

>>150207534
>foreshadowed since episode 1
>plot twist

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>>150207437
I'm a total idiot so ep7 when Will interrogated them.

What was the point of the MARIA killing Rosa over and over again scene?

>>150207197
I only remember one golden age mystery book in wich a loli is the killer, its generally pretty rare.

>>150207536
Post crying Battler.

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>>150207608
Ehh why would I do that

>>150207437
When Battler couldn't find the body.

>>150207437
I was too much taken aback by what was shown to me so pretty much like>>150207579

>>150207581
Fantasy view point. Also Maria's fears and frustration.

Why do we call it seacats again?

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>>150206985

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>>150208278
because

>>>/out/

>>150207437
I was in denial of Shkanon until ep 7 because I didn't want to believe the truth was that retarded.

I want to strangle Maria like the cunt she is

>>150208278
Nihongo.

>>150208418
>>150209510
Wow I am literally retarded just like Maria.

>>150209477
How about you try get through Rosa first?

>>150209598
>implying Rosa wouldn't help me kill Maria

Did anyone here unironically like this? It was such a shit.

>>150208606
What did you want? Yamainu?
You guys can bitch about literally anything.

>>150209738
Me. Every part of it.
Ryukishi a best.

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>>150209738
Haha no. I only enjoy Umineko on a wholly ironic metaphysical level.

You wouldn't fuck a seacat.

>>150209859
Post the full image I'm having a hard time grasping the anatomy of that body and need it for research

>>150201520
Also Jessica didnt interact with Kanon very much.

>>150210088
I'd say just paste the pixiv filename in but it seems you can't do that anymore...
http://www.pixiv.net/whitecube/user/1962279/illust/48634462

>>150210296
Thanks. Seacats porn is rare

>>150210197
This. Kanon preferred being alone and acted cold towards pretty much everyone.

>>150210014
Seacats are for gentle loving.

>>150209738
I read it for the music and ahaha.wav

>>150196954
Then fucking prove it doesn't faggot. Oh yeah, thats right, you cant.

>>150209765
People wanted Higurashi. A big spectacle in which the villian is defeated and everybody gets a happy ending.

>>150211325
>Magic does exists.
Then fucking prove it does faggot. Oh yeah, thats right, you cant.

>>150201520
>Jessica is the only real headscratcher since she seems to be close to Shannon and it's hard to believe she wouldn't notice after all the time they spent together before the family conference.
Jessica is literally the reason why the theory was so hard for me to believe.
I mean, fuck, you waste all day talking with a servant and fall in love with another and you cant just look at the face of your best friend and notice that your love and her look the fuckin same?

>>150200261
Some are about details or timing.
EP 2 for example.
Shannon and Kanon are together but Kanon (I think it was) has no dialogue, is spoken to, ain't shown or flat out disappears in the church as soon as Battler arrives.

>>150201226
Well, Natsuhi and the family ain't giving a fuck cause they think the servants are inferior.
Excluded are the cousins.
Battler was gone when Kanon appeared.
Maria was in on it.
George and Jessica are the issue considering they don't share the opinion of their parents.

I might be remembering it wrong but those two were supposed to be present when Kanon died in EP1 after he was "injured" and treated by Nanjo.

Either way, the one thing that had been bugging me were the stakings.
I mean, there's a clear Divine Comedy theme going on.
The stakings tend to go in order according to Mount Purgatorio but somehow end up mixed up at some point.
I was once considering putting them in order but to no avail.
Like, I thought we have so many illusions and deceptions that the deaths may not have been in order.
The entire epitaph is like "climb purgatorio to reach paradise" with the stakings representing a ridge.

For example in EP 1:
Eva - Lust
Hideyoshi - Gluttony
Kinzo - Greed
Kanon - Wrath
Genji - Pride
Nanjo - Sloth
Kumasawa - Envy

The real order is:
Lust
Gluttony
Greed
Sloth
Wrath
Envy
Pride

Then let's check EP2:
Jessica - Lust
Kanon - Wrath
Shannon - Greed
Gohda - Gluttony
George - Pride
Nanjo - Sloth
Kumasawa - Envy

Then of course, are the patterns:
Nanjo and Kumasawa = Sloth and Envy. They died early on in EP 3.
Kanon = Wrath. He "died" early on in EP 3.

And also, as soon as Kyrie and Rudolf survive past the first twilight in EP3, we aren't even getting any stakings per Envy and Sloth who are represented by Levi and Belphi, "killed" by Kyrie and Rudolf.

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>>150205543
Kinzo being kind is actually one of the only things that I find hard to believe. Felt like Battler was just trying to trick the imouto on that part. Mainly because it makes the plan about faking his death way less believable.

>>150211564
Just cause Kinzo's an awful person and a horrible parent doesn't mean he couldn't have been a fun grandpa to the kids while still alive.

Battler's game was showing the Ushiromiya family at their best, rather then their worst during a horrifically stressful time in their lives.

>>150211325
But Muh devil's proof

>>150207437
I think around ep 3~ with the card table trick, while they were doing the red battle I just thought that every single red there could easily get away with stuff if it involved multiple personality desorder, which isnt that rare in mysteries. But eh, I mostly found it dumb and kept thinking to find another answer, but the Shkannon shit really fit in everywhere perfectly if you consider that Jessica might have some kind of mental problem that makes her unable to recognize others.

>>150211419
DEVIL'S PROOF

>>150211522
EP3 in general is like "Kyrie and Rudolf tried to murder everyone but there is no real evidence".
Logically, it makes the most sense but it lacks evidence.

>>150209859
There just isn't enough good porn with Erika in it.

>>150211407
>People wanted Higurashi.
But people bitch even about that.
The moment the mystery disappears, there appears a bunch of faggots who scream "I WANTED MUH ANSWER TO BE DIFFERENT!!11"
If you don't give them the answer, they scream "WRITER IS A HACK!!!"
It's impossible to please that audience.

>>150211419
There's no way a faggot like you did not kill himself yet.
It's truly a miracle.
Therefore, magic exists.

>>150211755
Or maybe it's just that Jessica only interacted with Kanon a few times, thought he was cute, but never really did much beyond that?

It's not like two people looking similar is enough of a reason to think they're the same person.

>>150211564
the entire point of that scene was that the entire family had been stereotyped based on their supposed behavior at the worst time in their lives and that if Ange wanted to remember them there was no reason that she had to accept that narrative

>>150211903
For Jessica it is a reason.
Look: Natsuhi and Krauss simply don't give a shit about them. So it's fine to think they wouldn't notice.
Jessica and Shannon are good friend and actually does care.
She ain't exactly bright but she does care about the two.
The issue is that she didn't notice they were never together in all these years.

>>150211903
See, that argument perfectly works for George, who is only around for a bit and goes off.

But it makes no sense to Jessica, she lives there and at least see's the servants regularly, she doesnt need to interact with Kanon everyday to notice. The wort part is that she interacts with Shannon a lot, so she should at least have noticed something with Kanon.

>>150211902
Says the virgin who likes to play the detective like a child with autism

>>150212103
Are you implying that anon is Erika?

>>150211407
>A big spectacle in which the villian is defeated and everybody gets a happy ending.
But that happened. Bern fucked off and they all reached the Golden land.
安らかに眠れ、我が最愛の魔女ベアトリーチェ。
;_;

>>150212152
No, only a faggot who likes to think he is Erika.
Truly pathetic

>>150200605
It worked pretty well on people who tried to solve epitaph by going Maria route.

>>150211977
It's easy for Shannon to dismiss any suspicions.
>Why do you not work together with Kanon?
>It's an order from master. We have different duties.
>Why do you two look so similiar?
>Maybe we have same parents, we're orphans after all, who knows.
It's really not that easy to suspect two people being one and the same.

OH DESIRE

>>150195335
>That's not an excuse to be autistic
That's not what her excuse was though

>>150212944
YAMI O KIRISAKU

>>150213099
This.

>>150212944
OH BEATRICEEEE

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Can someone explain the Krauss rape theory to me?

>>150213398
It's a meme. Someone said that he surely must've raped Eva every night just to prove his superiority.

>>150213214
Non smetterò di pronunciare il tuo nome,
Per continuare a dare vita ai tuoi desideri.
Every time.

>>150213724
And that her diary is actually a heavily detailed recording of all the times she was raped by Krauss nightly, which is why Ange was so shocked once she read the contents of it.

Nice bump

>>150213214
Laughed my ass off when Zepar and Furfur said that.

>>150215316
Right you are, good sir, I completely forgot about that part.

>>150195335
Come back after episode 4

>>150218716
This.

>>150209765
A Non Incest Ending.

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ohhh

Jessica would be best girl if she wasn't into idolshit

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Is it wrong wanting to fuck a Stake?

>>150221408
She died, anon. Of course, they will be together forever in the Golden land, but it doesn't matter there.
And she was well aware of consequences. Why do you think it all started?

>>150201647
You can't be this dense. It must be illegal.

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Is it weird that I really enjoy stories I found Hyouka really exciting in this regard where characters try to reason and solve mysteries, but have zero desire to try to do so myself?

>>150223448
Yes because they don't really exists

>>150211903
>>150211977
>>150211981
They should have set it up such that Kanon really is Shannon's brother/twin instead of just being "like" a brother to her.

>>150224818
Same here, I new the 'truth' from the start but thoroughly enjoyed the story

>>150225271
This, they act like siblings and look similar so I guess Ryukishi didn't want an obvious lead

Magic doesn't exist.

>>150225271
>>150225366
They are orphans of the same age from the same orphanage.

>>150225866
Yes it does, you faggot.

>>150225866
The golden magic does exist. It can even create a witch.

>>150226769
>>150227697
Go to bed Beatrice.

>>150225866
Of course it does, didn't you see Bern, Lambda and Auaurora?

How is the manga? I've heard people say that it handles the ending better than the VN
but then the ending was complete trash so I dunno what to make of that even

Should I play it? People say the first half is good then it turns to shit

>>150228351
It tells you all the truth directly, adds some red etc.
Vn is godly, mango was okay, but I enjoy a catbox way more.

>>150228819
opinions are pretty mixed, depends if you're a pure mystery buff or you're there for the story and meta fuckery
in my opinion the second half is pretty damn good
it's worth a shot anyway, for good or bad there's nothing remotely like it

>>150228819
It's an experience.

>>150228819
First 6 (of 8 in total) are at the very least pretty enjoyable
after that it gets too meta for me, interesting ride nonetheless though. The soundtrack is great too.

>>150228819
I loved it all. Read it at least for the music.
Just remember to try creating your own theories and keep in mind two things:
There won't be a "detective called everyone to one room and told them all the truth" moment. You'll get how culprit did it, you're gonna hear his motive. But no one will be saved.
Stop bitching about the culprit's identity already, Ryu has used that trick once before. At least be ready for what's coming.

>>150211755
>if you consider that Jessica might have some kind of mental problem that makes her unable to recognize others.
Did something like that happen?

>>150228819
>Implying 5 isn't best EP

>>150229690
What did it end on again?

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>>150229690
It definitely has best mom.

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>>150229690
best girl gets bullied too hard in that one though

>>150229690
>That Natsuhi suffering train near the end
I shouldn't like Bern, Lambda, and Erika as much as I do because they're all horrible people. But I can't help it.

The Shkanon is dumb mostly because after the murders isn't it natural for everyone to stick close to each other? Surely then someone would ask where is Shannon/Kanon.

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>Shkannontrice
>Rosatrice
>Evatrice
>Gohdatrice

All these mental gymnastics by goats who are too stubborn to just admit that witches exist.

>>150230697
EP1
>Shannon died on the first twilight
EP2
>Kanon died on the second twilight
EP3
>Shannon died on the first twilight
EP4
>Kanon died on the fourth twilight
EP5
>Game suspended
EP6
>Kanon died on the second twilight
>Game suspended
EP7
>No twilights

>>150230137
That's what makes it so good

>>150230697
In EP1 Shanon dies on the first twilight, in EP2 Kanon dies after running after Jessica while Shannon was with Kinzo, in EP3 both died on the first twilight, in EP4 they're imprisoned away from Battler, I don't think that's a problem.

Episode 3 is the epitome of fictional storytelling, nothing can ever come close to it.

>>150232542
I would say Umineko in general, so I guess we're in agreement.

>>150232613
Shit was still solvable though.
I blame Kinzo btw.

>>150234191
>I dedicate this tale
My kokoro breaks every time.
I wish I was ironic.

>>150211419
I can prove it.

>>150234191
Were one of these ever made for Higurashi?

>>150235278
Go ahead.

YAMI WO KIRISAKU

I didn't enjoy the anime, but the song was catchy.

OH DESIREEEE

>>150236046
I don't believe so. Someone should get on that.

GREAT EQUALIZER IS THE DEATH

Umineko had relatively well-written characters put in retardedly unlikely scenarios.

Which is kind of the point I guess, since most of the episodes are just stories anyway, right?

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>>150237130
Yeah, that was half the fun of the catbox concept. You could take the characters and put them through any possible scenario and it was just as possible to be "real" as any other scenario.

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>>150236864

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>>150234191
>yfw you will never read it along side /a/ and /jp/
fuuuck single biggest box i wish i could experience all over again.

>>150234191
Episode 1 was the best simply because I played it blind and the atmosphere was top notch. I was legit creeped out by Maria singing

>>150232542
I am still mad about the final of that episode

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Every thread until we reach the Golden Land.

I want to hug Natsuhi!

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https://my.mixtape.moe/mfowcc.mp3

>>150241600
12/10

>>150223448
Lucifer >Belphegor > Leviathan > Satan > Mammon > Asmodeus > Beelzebub

Holy shit just finished ep 5 why is Erika such a bitch?

>>150244687
>why is Erika such a best?
She was written that way.

>>150244687
>why is Erika such a bitch?
Because she's the Witch of truth. She's supposed to represent the absolute desire for truth.

I doubt this thread will survive much longer.

>>150246649
Magic would be needed to save it for much longer and magic doesn't exist after all.

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>>150243559
Poor Beatrice, in the Golden land she will have to forever comepte with seven hot demon chicks for Batoras attention. Well, six, Mammon probably will stick to Ange as soon as she joins them.

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>>150248242
>compete
Why not give in and go for a ninesome?

>>150248325
Battler x Beatrice + 7 dildos in Battler's ass?

>>150247143
P R O V E I T