DIO: The Musical

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>>149959374
1st for worst boy

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BARRIER UP! part 4 anime hatefags are unable to post in this thread.

>>149959374
You know, I wonder if leaving out Jonathan being a little shit as a kid will make animeonlys think he had zero character development.

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>>149959374
I've been working on playing Crazy Noisy Bizarre Town on my bass trombone, anyone wanna hear a snippet of the part I can play decently so far on a vocaroo?

>>149959456
Part 4 anime is shit
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

>>149959485
sure why not

>>149959456
Man Araki didn't give a single fuck for parts 1 and 2.

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>>149959468
I assume the animeonlies are only interested in the epin memelord that comes next so they wouldn't care about those scenes even if they were there (the first episode already had people hating Jonathan for being weak).
But it does upset me that DP removed those scenes which were so important for Jonathan's character (as well as some important scenes for Dio and George's characters as well).
It takes a while for Jonathan to grow into that larger-than-life ideal hero he eventually becomes, in the same way it takes a while for Dio to grow to become the massive force of evil in the series.
Leaving those scenes takes away from that. I wish they had at least included Danny's backstory.

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>>149959563
I missed like 3 notes and I hate myself but here it is http://vocaroo.com/i/s13pbqLYNXFQ

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Gappy makes me happy

>>149959961
Not bad anon, not bad at all.

>>149960061
>mfw i havent gotten to part 8 yet but i've heard so much cool shit about it

Fuck me I'm 1/3rd through SBR

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If BTD is full of actual crisp, stylish animation like this and they've actually saved up their budget for the next 5 eps I take back every bit of shit I've flung at DP, this scene was marvelous.

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We're still here

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>>149959961
pretty good so far

>>149960165
3.5 here again, I scrapped my old idea so it'll be done by tomorrow for sure.

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>>149960168
>mfw the song calls for slide movements so fast that if i said ora while doing it it would actually be pretty accurate

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>>149960140
i'm pretty sure it will. david has learned their lesson since part 3.

>>149960556
I can't help but feel super skeptical about it though, best to set your hopes low until thursday when we see the PV but especially Friday so we can see just WHO is doing the episode

At this point I think the best candidates would be either the guy who did the 2nd episode or the guy who did Quiet Life 2.

>>149960628
But they've been saving their budget for 34 episodes!

Reminder that there's nothing weird about a father and son sharing a bath

>>149959799
In retrospect I think Jonathan may have had more development than the average JoJo.

>Joseph
>Jotaro
>Josuke
>Giorno

None of them really changed much.

>>149960694
Credit where it's due, aside from Quiet Life 1 they saved their budget for the right episodes this time to make the important ones look great. I really hope this is the case with BTD/CDIU.

Also, since we're at the finale, think they might play one of the OPs during BTD/CDIU like they did with Bloody Stream in part 2?

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>The Dog that attacked Rohan made the same noise as Cream

>>149960764
Jonathan, Joylene, and Johnny were the most well-developed characters, Joylene being the most, Jonathan balanced, and Johnny falling to occasional Koichi development syndrome.

>>149960764
jotaro was shit, fuckin polnareff was the main character of part 3

>>149960841
What the hell is Koichi development syndrome

>>149960864
I like Jotaro but his whole "CALM COOL GUY" thing got old.

Definitely agree about Polnareff having more of the character focus. Same problem as in part 5. Jotaro/Giorno are only there for when things need to be solved.

>>149960841
Johnny had by far the most character development. Jolyene was definitely second in that regard, but Johnny had a long time to go from a depressed possibly suicidal failure to someone who actually has a purpose.

Of course then Araki fucked it up with what happens to him afterwards.

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>>149960628
i'd like to see the people who worked on sha 1 and 2 return for the finale as well. both of those episodes had really nice animation and some beautiful stills.
>>149960779
sono chi no sadame played at the end of part 2, not bloody stream.

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Don't say that you love me
JUST TELL ME THAT YOU WANT ME

>>149960977
A term I heard a part 4 hating shitter say once but it's true.

It's when a character just gets stronger in a fight just cause. It's very lazy writing so it looks like the characters changing, when in reality he just gets more powerful.

Koichi is an example because although he was technically the most developed character in DIU, he mostly did so because of fights.

A character like Polnareff dealt with deaths of his friends, building relationships with the people around him, explained his tragic backstory which came to haunt him and you see him vulnerable emotionally instead of just being damaged in a fight like Koichi in Sheer Heart Attack.

>>149960990
You're probably right, it just that it felt unnatural when he shot himself with Tusk Act 3.

They're both my favorite JoJos, Girono being my least because he had practically no character development except in the Man in the Mirror and White Album fights.

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>>149961199
I'm not him, but I thought that's what it was.

Johnny doesn't really magically get stronger because he needs to, though. He sure as hell does need to, but, unlike Cuntichi, he actually develops enough mentally to warrant a change in his stand.

He was mentally defeated at the start of part 7, when he got his stand it was small and didn't do very much; but throughout the part he develops and grows stronger mentally, not just out of nowhere, eventually leading to his stand changing.

>>149961299
>your favorite jojo isn't pic related

Literally what is wrong with you lad

I started watching JoJo. I like it so far, but why is Dio such a gigantic dick?

>>149961199
That person just sounds bitter as fuck, without any real grasp on Koichi.
Koichi is just coming of age and learning to confront and deal with his problems like a man instead of screaming or running away like he would really like to do.
His stand evolves because he didn't really have what it took to control a humanoid stand up until he had to protect Jotaro from dying because of Koichi's own stupid mistake.

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>>149961342
How does Johnny figure out to shoot himself in the Civil War fight? I get that his "heart stopped wavering", but it just seemed so random.

>>149961199
I think the best Koichi development moments are Lock and the clothing shop fight where he confronted Kira.

The big problem was that nobody in part 4 had much character development. Part 5 had a similar issue, but that at least had Bruno coming to terms with his mortality.

>>149961419
I have no idea why you are here when you haven't even finished 1/16 of JoJo

because dio has more of a backstory that is covered in the manga and not the anime

>>149961442
Yeah, that's kind of a plot convenience, but it isn't a Koichi magical stand development one

>>149961442
Didn't Jesus himself give him a hint?

>>149961427
He's literally DBZ tier character development.

"Oh no Jotaro is gonna die cuz I fucked up, wait my stand evolve cuz I need to win the fight xd"

It would have probably been better if before Act 3 came, he would of shit talked Kira and gained the resolve to evolve, not just gaining it randomly and then have the balls to shit talk him.

>>149961427
everytime Koichi's stand evolved, it was because it was time for him to finally nut up.
He wanted to protect his family from Tamami, have the balls to reject Yukako, the power to protect Jotaro like Jotaro protected him.

>>149961592
"Don't shoot if you heart is wavering" doesn't mean "Shoot yourself". He did do that fiery eyes shit which meant he would kill anyone, but shooting himself didn't make sense.

>>149961598
>DBZ tier character development

characters dont develop in DBZ, don't even make shit up like that.
Goku is literally the same fucking retard he was in the beginning of DB.

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>>149961706
>characters dont develop in DBZ
pic related

>>149961682
Johnny's smart. Maybe he had thought about what would happen but didn't have the guts to do it?

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>>149961598
It could have been worse anon

It could have been a girl that they made "develop" like that for the feminist demographic

>>149961665
>He wanted to protect his family
That worked real well for Shigechi didn't it, anon?

pic related is my face after making that joke

>>149961756
>i loev vagina he protek bulma from cat man

ok

Reminder that there is only one major female character in Part 5, so when the anime adapts it half of the generals will be composed of nothing but

>Trish is best girl
>I love Trish!
>I want Trish to make my dick soft
>Trish is cute! C U T E
>trish is a shit girl who did nothing but fight notorious b.i.g. and also is a slut who became a pop star and didn't even fuck mista

Luckily, Part 6 should have a wider range of waifus, so we'll be fine then.

>>149961706
Koichi literally goes super saiyan, he gets balls to win a fight, but outside of a fight, he's still the good hearted, helpful, naive kid he was before he got hit with the arrow.

>>149961781
Shigechi wasn't a pussy who needed to develop into a man. His stand didn't also start out as an egg that does nothing.

What gun mista uses?
A .38?it shoots a little bit too fast for one(or may be just araki's shooting artstyle)
But it also looks like one a lot

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>>149961803
>i will finally be able to jerk off to jolyne in actual color and not just an odd palette

Praise lord Heaven Ascension Kek

>>149961845
>he's still the good hearted, helpful, naive kid he was before he got hit with the arrow.

If you think Koichi at the beginning of part 4 is the same character as Koichi at the end, you're just a retard

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>>149961803
I like FF :3

one of the few good parts of oart 6

>>149961803
>and also is a slut who became a pop star and didn't even fuck mista
I guess they would be the ones to not realize that a mafia affiliated hitman would make a great bodyguard.

>>149948206
I really need more of these....

>>149961781
Do you mean Jolyne? She was targetted towards the male demographic.

>>149961781
>If this rather badly-written and mediocre character was a girl (which he's not) it would've been the work of the feminist agenda
What the fuck am I reading?

>>149961803
>trish didn't even fuck mista
uhh, my headcanon says otherwise

>>149961803
More like
>>Mista is best boy
>>I love abbaccio!
>>I want bruno to unzip my dick
>>narancia is cute! C U T E
>>trish is a shit girl who did nothing but fight notorious b.i.g. and also is a slut who became a pop star and didn't even fuck mista

>>149961899
The only difference is his relationship with the Morioh stand users and he's not powerless anymore.

Even 2 years later, he stills sees the good Giorno, who stole his money and passport and fought him when he brought it up, and even befriends him after the Black Sabbat fight.

>>149961939
No, Jolyne was an actually good female character who was written as more masculine (more muscles, less feely-shit, etc etc), I was stating a hypothetical.

>>149961963
>implying the Daenerys effect isn't real (starting a series with a weak female character and making her strong mentally out of fucking nowhere to pander to a specific audience)

>>149961939
Araki said he wanted to write more and better women because he hadn't done so before, and wanted to write some girl characters his daughters would enjoy when they got older.

That isn't really 'feminism' though is it? I mean, he's just saying that he'd like to move out of his comfort-zone and utilize female characters more and better. Which he did, the girls from part 6 onward are infinitely better than shit like Lisa Lisa and forgettable minor enemies.

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>>149961706
Anon...

>>149962015
Valid point. But keep in mind that David Production made all Part 4 girls best girls. Unless they can make that same magic work with Narancia, it won't be the same.

>>149962007
>>149961924
There is a simple proof as to why Trish didn't fuck Mista: in Purple Haze Feedback, Mista still has a fear of the number 4.

The fact is that such an obsession would instantly be forgotten once Mista lost his virginity. It's like how otaku get rid of their anime collections after getting a girlfriend.

>>149962064
Your perception of the manga is incredibly strange, nevermind just Koichi

Jongali A. vs N'Doul. Who wins?

>>149962163
Nah I thought he was referring to Jolyne, I don't believe it was for that reason.

>>149962015
Can't wait desu.

>>149961598
He did manage to pull his shit together when he figured out what to do to distract Sheer Heart Attack.

>>149962163
>and wanted to write some girl characters his daughters would enjoy when they got older.

Holy shit. Araki has kids?

>>149962187
I'm reasonably sure Mista isn't a virgin to start with, anon.

>>149962192
Can you address the argument other than stating "You don't look at it like I do"?

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>>149961803
>d
>>149962015
>>149962235
>tfw /GIOGIO/ is almost upon us

>>149962075
>Comparing Game Of Thrones shit to JJBA
Look, once again I barely even understand what point you're trying to make. Koichi isn't a girl, and the theme of 'weak character getting stronger over time in an unsatisfying manner' is far from a girl-character only issue. You're arguing a point based purely on your own take on a hypothetical situation which didn't happen at all, and trying to turn your hatred of Koichi into nonsense about feminism to give it more credit. It's really weird.

>>149962301
But your argument IS
>"You don't look at it like I do"
So all I can do is spoon-feed you how I see it, and I'm really sick of doing that for dumb meme posters

>>149962362
>i'm the one taking this so far

Nigga I was literally saying at least his weak development wasn't as bad as a shitty cash grab, just bad development, nothing less nothing more.

>>149962369
I keep bringing up points, you keep saying "no it's not".

At least name a few examples where Koichi's development carries on outside of conflict instead of saying I'm somehow spouting memes?

>>149962075
The Daenerys effect is especially bad in media now because of the third wave feminism pushing.

Feminists will hate Jolyene, though. I can promise you that.

>>149962467
>"no it's not"

Because it's not.
>Highway Star
>Getting the jump on Kira and using Act 3 on his hand
Are too good examples, and really the only ones there are because of how infrequently Koichi appears after SHA.

>>149962598
This, literally one of the main reasons I cannot wait until part 6 is animated.

>>149962598
>Jolyene

This is cancer discussion. Take this shit back to /pol/ or /v/ or /r9k/ or wherever you came from

>>149962598
You can't even spell the name of the legitimately good female character who you're insisting that women are going to despise, go to s4s and argue with the tumblrinas to your hearts content.

>>149962622
Those two examples are him in direct conflict, and they only show that his abilities grow, but nothing outside really exemplifies his character development.

Araki didn't really give Koichi as much attention as he needed to have good development, he put too much emphasis on Josuke, whom doesn't change much anyway.

>>149962422
So Koichi's shitty development is perfectly acceptable, but if Koichi was a girl it'd be a cash-grab and the work of an anti-male conspiracy?

>>149962671
Oh jeez, I typed an accidental e. Not like I have a friend with that name.

>>149962727
I'm saying modern feminists are going to hate Jolyne. Why wouldn't they? She's a girl with an actual personality, flaws and development. Not to mention she's straight and openly lusts after men.

>>149962807
>Lusts after men

???

>>149962671
Not him but

>/pol/
>implying they wouldn't just sage a thread about a female anime protagonist

>/v/
>literally nothing to do with this, i assume this is a gamergate reference

>/r9k/
>as someone from this board we would probably list the things we would do to her anally or something, not a discussion on her character

>>149962869
Feminists are usually against men in all aspects and think they are cancer, etc etc, against sex and shit like that, and are against any sexualization of women whatsoever in media.

>>149962940
Nah but when did she do this? I only remember her boyfriend and when she was caught masturbating.

>>149962757
Well Josuke IS the main character.
And there you go
>direct conflict
>Koichi takes action as quickly as Jotaro does in a stand battle
And the thing with the bitchy nurse is something Koichi would have never done in the beginning. Come on.

>>149962807
You're parading your ignorance more with every post. Jolyne is already alarmingly popular on tumblr because of those exact same reasons you're declaring will make them hate her, it's characters like Trish or Lucy that feminists don't like.

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>>149962790
Okay I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt but you're actually a retard.

I gave Daenerys as an example because her character wasn't some fucking feminist "conspiracy" thing, it was made to APPEAL to feminists. It's called PANDERING when you do that. I was simply saying that if Koichi was a girl, it might as well be pandering to that demographic.

And when did I fucking say his shitty development was okay? I said it wasn't AS BAD as it would be if that was the case.

Fuck off back to special ed you fucking mongoloid

>>149962940
I just don't want a trend of bringing up the social commentary at work around me. The rest of 4chan does that enough, and I'm honestly just beyond hearing about it.
I've just accepted that people are going to find things to be fucking idiots about.

>>149963007
Not him but I remember a scene, I'm gonna try to find it. Wait for me.

>>149963022
>everyone on tumblr is a feminist

Wew you're actually retarded. Can't tell if you wear an adult diaper or you're a feminist or even worse, a male one.

>>149962869
>implying modern day feminists wouldn't bitch about Jolyne being a sex object power fantasy w/e because she masturbates and lusts after dudes

>>149963022
You're being surprisingly hostile about this, anon. JoJo is still pretty niche. If/when it gets big enough to attract a more mainstream audience it'll be hammered with that.

>waah all the females are conventionally attractive
>waaah all the main ones are straight

And don't you even dare deny that most Jolyne fanart doesn't have her lezzing out with Ermes.

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>>149963089
Ive got you bruv

>>149963012
Ok, I still think your misinterpreting those scenes.

Koichi was only actively malicious to that bitchy nurse because his abilities let him do it and undo it, it also had the ultimate goal of saving Rohan's and Josuke's lives. He would of done something similar in any situation because he was doing it for good reasons, like how he helped his mom and sister during the Lock fight.

And Koichi takes quick action in his previous fights, it's not something he develops.

>>149963053
>Being this enraged about hypothetical girl-Koichi's character-development and what hypothetical feminists would think of it
I think you need to take a nap or something.

>>149963157
Oh yeah that one.

>>149963138
Most Jolyne fanart is actually more incest heavy, than anything else.
Don't challenge me on this, because I know you'd be making shit up. I wish more Jolyne art was the way you think it is

>>>/wsg/1403367

I like not bothering to animate lips either.

>>149963180
>i make a simple hypothetical and you blow it out of proportion

Yeah, okay, I'm the enraged one. Fuck off back to /b/.

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>>149963161
>characters only do things when they can get away with it with their abilities

I don't understand this notion, why would you view things this way
I'm telling you that initial Koichi was too much of a push over midget to stand up for himself at all.
And he doesn't, he's usually running away desperate to find a solution, usually stumbling onto one. I refuse describe every single one of Koichi's arcs front to back for you.

>>149963227
Cheap Trick's mouth wasn't animating properly in one scene, around the time where Rohan was about to show his back to Koichi

>>149963411
Never asked you to, you're just being overly hostile.

It's best if we just stop arguing.

>>149963138
As someone who actively goes hunting for lesbian Jolyne stuff to fap to I can promise you hand-on-heart that the Promised Land of Jolyne yuri does not exist. There's some of it, sure, but less than half the amount there is of male/male stuff for the VA characters and so on.

Most of the Jolyne fanart I see has Jolyne being (thank god) conventionally attractive like her actual design is, but the content tends to be SFW jokes, friendship with the other girl characters or platonic father/daughter stuff with Jotaro.

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>>149963007
>>149963157
Found the one I was looking for.

>>149963157
But yeah, also this.

>>149963252
Well yeah, you're swearing, making insults, ranting on about other characters from other franchises to argue your point, etc. It's not worth getting this upset over, the thread was perfectly reasonable before this all started.

>>149963456
You were going to, because that's all it ever comes down to.
Me dissecting every portion of written dialogue and exposition until someone finally goes
>oh
or just plain doesn't reply anymore. It's a real joke.

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>>149963227
>>149963443
11 minutes in

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>It's a thread invaded by feminism argument episode

>>149963157
>>149963529
Jolyne, the only girl that will pose like a slut for you naked as a joke.

>>149963581
>Anonymous arguments stop at some point

Are you surprised?

I ended it because I saw that it was going to be that, probably better since I see some of your points, but I'm always going to think I'm right and vice versa.

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>>149963640
if this is your way of starting a story I wont stop you

>>149963529
Female Anasui + male hormones + diver down = male Anasui

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>>149963157

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7>4>6>5>3>2>1

>>149963698
I just don't understand the use of purposely taking the road of dissecting the meta of a story's writing, rather than how the writing builds itself up.
I could go on this tirade about how Koichi was supposed to share all of Poco's characteristics as a character.
The punk kid side character who just wants the hero to protect his hometown and family. Except Koichi is more than just that trope and grows into a character on par with the heroes themselves.

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Does anyone remember how flashy & stylized the Echoes episode was? Why didn't they do more shit like this, it fits DiU so well

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>>149963749
oh man

>>149963850
Maybe they'll bring it back for BtD

>>149963850
Still one of my favorite episode of DiU

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>>149963728
Nah. Just wanted to imagine how this would look animated.

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>>149964025
Shit.
But me too. I have high hopes after what they did with LisaLisa.

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>>149964084
They gave Lisa Lisa huge boobs. Don't think they'll do the same with Jolyne though.

Wasn't Rohan's plan super risky? What if the hands didn't take stands, or what if they pulled Rohan's soul with cheap trick's soul, or what if it somehow put Koichi in danger?

Very irresponsible

>>149964118
And a strip scene that wasn't in the manga, that showed ass.
LisaLisa looked like portrait-shit in the manga.

>>149964220
What if Heaven's Door was facing the other way when he was writing into Cheap Trick and gotten taken away?

>>149964220
What if Koichi didn't find out he was in the ghost alley and looked behind him

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>>149964220
>>149964273
>>149964309
I genuinely wonder how else would any character defeat Cheap Trick without the Ghost Alley. He had at least to take a chance.

>>149964240
Link? I haven't watched the anime.

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>>149964435
Would Cheap Trick be able to do anything within stopped time? Maybe Jotaro could've assisted Rohan with one of his trademark ass-pulls

is 5 the only part without a kid ally?
>Poco
>Smokey
>Anne
>Hayato
>?
>Emporio
>died of a cold, i guess
>Tsurugi

I know a piece of fanart uses Doppio

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>>149964435
Joskue would get angelo to stare at his back, then heal his back. Finally, Joskue would make more rocks and cover cheap trick in a rocky grave

>>149964515
Giorno is still a kid.

>>149964515
Doppio

>>149964435
Josuke fusing Cheap Trick unto a wall, The Hand, or Reverb making Cheap Trick go insane before Rohan does.

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Can science explain this?

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>>149964607
DELET

>>149964435

Cheap Trick would probably end up wiping out millions of people and animals had Rohan failed.

>>149964607
Whose stand is that?

>>149964607
i blame CLAMP.

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>>149964458
Sure.

>>149964515
Does Lucy Steel count as a kid?

>>149964220
The thing is, the hands takes the soul itself, that's why it worked. But yeah it was risky.

>>149964515
My sweet golden boy is still 15

>>149964515
Flower Boy Gio is 15. though more mature and responsible than other jojos

>>149964509
>Would Cheap Trick be able to do anything within stopped time?
Would Jotaro be able to do anything about Cheap Trick in stopped time ?

>>149964554
>Joskue would get angelo to stare at his back, then heal his back
>heal his back

>>149964602
>Josuke fusing Cheap Trick unto a wall
That would just trap Rohan as well
>The Hand
Rohan would be erased alongside Cheap Trick

Remember, Cheap Trick is Rohan's Stand as well.

At this rate we won't see the full version of Sono Chi no Sadame on Toonami ever again. By the time Intruder III is over it'll be Episode 10 and it'll be replaced by Bloody Stream

>>149964509
Jotaro doesn't asspull more than once

>>149959686

it's hamon, I ain't gotta explain shit

>>149964904
>Rohan would be erased alongside Cheap Trick
>Remember, Cheap Trick is Rohan's Stand as well.

If a stand user had their leg chopped off, would their stand lose a leg?

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>>149964824
That's normal though, JoJo characters do risky shit for a living. Jotaro literally saved a guy who almost killed him and nearly got his brain penetrated, which could have killed him as well, and he said himself he didn't even know why he did it. What Rohan did wasn't really THAT outlandish as far as risky shit goes

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>>149963485

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>>149965045
I dont see the issue

>>149964607
bohemian rhapsody

>>149964904
I thought it was just that Cheap Trick used Rohan's strength to be on his back, but not be his stand.

The Hand would work since it could erase Cheap Trick as a stand and not Rohan's back, or am I mistaken?

>>149960165

4.9 will be done by tomorrow.

>>149965058
polnareff

>>149965067
what is hierophant green doing to star platinum?
>also inb4 fujoshit.

>>149965181
Catching his arm
are you asking to bait meme replies

Can I just say Speedwagon's "sacrifice" in Part 1 makes no fucking sense when it's completely censored by the anime?
He just fucking pulls his shirt up and sticks Zeppelli's arm on his abs and Zeppelli acts like he's taken a bullet for him
If they showed horrible shit already why didn't they just have Speedwagon cut his stomach and use the usual black splotch to cover it up?

>>149965330
Yeah, you really don't get the idea that Speedwagon is horribly frostbiting his somtach

>>149965220
no,
I dont remember stardust crusaders at all, and i tought he was pushing him away.

>>149965330
I thought he was just warming it up before I reread the manga

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>>149965541
Its this part

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>>149965140
It's stated as much in the fight that Cheap Trick becomes Rohan's Stand in the fight, hence why he can't use Heaven's Door on it and why Echoes's Freeze hurts him as well

>>149964683
The thing that makes me like Cheap Trick as a concept is that, for such a weak, annoying and scrawny Stand, it's actually one of the most dangerous enemies when you think about what it is and what it can do.

Not only is Cheap Trick incapable of being killed without it's current user dying as well, it can always hop through users by ripping off their backs and then going to the next one. The Ghost Alley was the only solution that wouldn't have killed Rohan or allowed Cheap Trick to get away.

Cheap Trick is not human, it doesn't have to eat, sleep and it can't even be injured by things that are not Stand attacks. It has no other purpose but to kill whatever it latches on to. It was just going to keep going from user to user without any pause. It doesn't even have to really make itself known, you could have Cheap Trick on your back and not even know about it. And since it doesn't age, it could just keep doing this until all lifeforms had been killed.

And Cheap Trick's ability to torment it's user and talk to literally anything could be used for a lot of things. Imagine if Cheap Trick felt like assembling an army of animals to attack and kill humans ? It could do that, it could talk to animals and convince them of anything.
Imagine if Cheap Trick wanted to start a nuclear war ? All it would have to do is attach itself to a person and have said person somehow show their backs to someone in control of the nukes and there, Cheap Trick could just call the shots even without the person's orders.

Rohan probably saved the goddamn world by getting rid of this thing.

>>149965970
Why did the hands work on him if Heaven's Door didn't?

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Why Nip music bands are so goat? i dont like kpop, krock, jpop. But japanese bands are fucking awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlZwriO-Itg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjK5PJf_SkA

>>149966371
because jojo's bizarre adventure

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>you are now realizing that part 8 won't end without at least ONE of the higashikata's dying a horribly gruesome death
>Or even worse most of them die leaving Daiya to be the last surviving member

>>149966467
Daiya will die. it's obvious

What was the worst artstyle and why was it mid part 6 through early 7?
honorable mention: very early part 1

>>149966487
>worst parts
>worst art style
seems right

>>149966371
Nip music is excellent.

>>149966480
Jousuke~~~~~~~~e!

I'm dying~~~~~~~~~~~~~~g!

If 6, part 4 is mega shit.

>>149966487
3

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>>149966691
>those 666
wew, lad.

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>>149966691
It is mega great!

>>149966691
you are doing it wrong.

If 4 , part 4 is stinky garbage.

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>>149966787
if 8, 8 is the best part and Jojo quality runs in a straight line

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>>149966913
If 4 JoJo is shit

OKAY. Enough with digits.
If i get 5, jojo is overrated shit.
if not then no more rolls

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>>149966933
>One off

Going have to buy every Jojonium now

>>149966955
that's where you're wrong dubs and part 6 is the best part while 5 is the worst

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>>149966955
JOJO BTFOOOOO

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>>149966467
>Norisuke is probably gonna die

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>>149966955
jojo is shit confirmed
based kek

>>149962163
>That isn't really 'feminism' though is it?

It kinda is, tho. He wanted his female characters to be as good and interesting as his male characters were. That's really the basic definition of feminism, that men and women, at least in most respects that matter, can be equally capable.

>>149967001
Norisuke should have died

>>149967001
He's probably gonna end up coming off as a total scumbag later.
He's hiding something

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>>149967001
>mfw I have €30 sitting on Norisuke dying first.

Araki, I'm falling for your bait, I know but please.

>>149967310
I don't see Norisuke killing a child to save their son.
Kaato did nothing wrong.

>>149967389
Is that your prediction of what Kaato did?
And I think it's going to be related more to being scummy and greedy.

>>149966467
Jobin's wife will be the last survivor because she will never show up and get into any shit staff.

>>149967441
She'll definitely come up again. Probably when we start getting into Kaato.

What's up with Johnny's hand turning blue and mechanical when he shoots nails?

And why does his hand get glowing stars?

>>149967504
Branchelo?

i just started part 4 of the anime
is it just me or is the animation significantly worse than the previous 3 parts? why the fuck is the sky constantly yellow?

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>>149967554
>is it just me or is the animation significantly worse than the previous 3 parts?
Did you watch the first 3 parts?

Those are literally slideshows compared to DiU.

>>149967554
Because they're putting half the budget away for part 5.
and it really is a poor design choice, like Jotaro's black coat

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>>149967435
I have far to many JJL theories but the fruit exchange one is a quick Kaato theory.

I think you are right though about Norisuke. I don't with seen the full extent of him and he's definitely got some baggage. (I.E. being weird about the family photo) The lying comment by Kaato was really indicative too.

I have one main theory. My serious one is the Engima/Kaato connection that comes from the basis that Engima had an album called "The King Has Fallen, long love the King" in french. If the Highway Star / Speed King connection is taken as precedent. Also storing sruff in paper / storing stuff in cards.
You get the idea of killing Fruitdad and such from the name.

There was a cute little theory of Joubin not actually being Joubin like Kosaku. Hence why they couldn't use Speed King fully nor fight fully.
But I don't really buy into that.

>>149967554
>why the fuck is the sky constantly yellow?
aesthetic

>>149967582
They all look like slideshows, don't kid yourself.

>>149967629
I never thought about the Enigma thing. Something about a full deck of 52 and minimizing space. I think she might be the antagonist.
And the reason people think shit like that is because of Jobin's necklace. They say it's an allusion to the scar on DIO's neck between him and Jonathan.

>>149967554
yellow sky = shit aint right in this cozy town

it'll turn blue by the end

>>149967792
should have been purple

>>149967792
>>149967645
It still looks pretty bad, even as a conscious design choice.

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>>149967714
Yeah if we have to put our bets down now, then my money is on Kaato. I never quite got the Joubin is the main antag thing fully. But I can see why.
I don't think Araki is too on the nose to directly lift and rewrite things from part 4, but the the cards make sense. Perhaps the anime has made me see Enigma in a different light function wise.
I wonder if Kaato can out people in the cards too. I doubt it but it would be a chuckle for all the "Teru looks like a yugioh" character people.

The scar thing is a stretch but I can see it.
I see the Koskau theory because of Tsurugi's fight with Aishou being the Hayato/Stray Cat equivalent. But like I said. I don't think Araki would outright pick up and paste in a repeat.

I'm down for the Emporio theory.

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>>149967538
Seriously, look at it.

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>>149967989
I like it.

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>>149968059
I used to get it, but not so much anymore.
If that is going to be the case, Araki is going full gray because Jobin seems desperate as fuck.

I still see Aishou more as a reference to Wham, honestly.
and I really do not think that's Emporio.

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>>149967989
tell that to araki then. he did it in some of his colored part 4 drawings. i think it looks really cool.

>>149968154
That works with the sharper colours in that image. Same with the blackened background and heavy shading.

It looks flat and weird in the anime.

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>>149968131
David fucked up.

>>149968321
what am I supposed to be seeing

>>149967538
>>149968095

In universe answer: STANDO POWAH
Real word answer: because Araki is a fucking madman. You should stop asking questions like that or you'll go crazy, too.

>>149968352
The road crossing the railroad goes nowhere.

>>149968380
Oh yeah.

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>>149968131
MORE

>>149968379
But he doesn't get it in later appearances.

Goddammit it Araki.

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>>149968148
The overall "Defeating the curse" is the main goal seems the most plausible. I like the idea of no main antagonist but it seems weird with jojo. I agree that everyone is very grey in the story. I think that's why SeaKira had the surger dude and Gappy is brutal with killing.

The Aishou/Wham thing is cool because I'd be really haopy if we got a stand like ACDC's firey veins. We get close to it but maaaan that shit is dope for me.

I don't think it's Emporio directly. But Burning Down the House is one of my favourite stands (and songs). So I'd love to see it expanded on.

>>149968154
Araki's surreal colours work with the manga and style. I don't mind the anime's style but I think purple/pink works better.

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>>149968380
That's a parking street, Anon. Most main train/bus stations have one.

I miss Kakyoin.

>>149968454
>yfw Burning Down the House applies to ghost UNIVERSES

>>149968454
I still think SeaKira is going to be revealed as being evil as ever.
Nothing about him sits right.

And I always thought Speed King was going to end up being like Heat Mode to complete the Pillar Men's powers. Considering I see Vitamin C as Damo's way of cutting through anything like Kars' Light Mode.
But then people started posting all that shit about molecule acceleration and shit, and Jobin being the main villain.

I like the Talking Heads too, but the kid doesn't even look like Emporio.
It's 2011, so he wouldn't look different.

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>>149968515
all real Jojo fans do

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Also, I'm still waiting to hear more about what the fuck Yotsuyu's deal was.
He seemed really set on something, and came off incredibly leader-like and villainous with the way he became 'friends' with Aishou. I was expecting to see more, but so far we only have him being Damo's partner or something.
I was also disappointed that he had no real hand in putting Josefumi and Kira in the ground, like he implied he did.

Unless there really is more to that flashback. Maybe Kira and Josefumi becoming one isn't the end of things.

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>>149968473
Keep lying to yourself.

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>>149968515
Don't worry, DIO didn't miss him.

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>>149968522
>Picture of Ghost Kira on the wall.
Pls.

>>149968552
Again nobody is good or bad in JJL. I can't see us getting to much info for a while at least. I think surfer dude was obviously baiting something more evil. I don't think he'd go full evil. For what it's worth, that Kira interview where Araki repears various versions of "If only he wasn't a murderer" makes me think he'll take it easy.
I wonder if we'll get another Kirafumi chapter or something. I was kinda hoping we'd get it as a one shot. But I'm worried it'd just be fujo bait.

See the vibration/molecular theories make sense but I lean closer to you with the heat mode powers. The nosebleed/burst vein to me seems a hint towards the burning veins. I originally thought it might be pressure based but that's a throwaway thought
I do recall vaguely something about Araki not wanting to make another direct fire stand though.

JJL is very frustrating but also very fun.
I wonder if perhaps we read too much into the "X is a call back to Y", but at this point, I think it's justified.

>>149959374
>DIO
>Not a single reference to Holy diver, Last in Line or Heaven and hell
/a/ i am very dissapoint.

>>149968930
Have you looked at THE WORLD?
Have you read part 6?

>>149968930
I can absolutely guarantee you that Araki listened to Last in Line, Rainbow in the Dark, and Holy Diver while creating Jojo.
Probably more than that.

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>>149969168
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5b1q_EUIBc
Like I assume everyone has listened to this by now and been like
>oh araki

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Currently reading through the manga right now.

Is Vento objectively the worse arc in Jojo? I am seriously not having fun reading this arc. After having characters with what seemed like a little depth in DiU, Giorno and the gang feel like fucking planks of wood. The stand designs feel lazy and inconsistent in power, and the jumping around in terms of who's the star of the show sucks, Giorno barely has any fucking screen time.

Seriously, I just want to get through this so I can get to Stone Ocean and Steel Ball Run which Im most excited for.

If I had to currently rank what I've read so far:

4 > 2 > 3 > 1 > 5

>>149969535
Im trying not to be that guy, but you really do sound like you're trying to hate it

>149969535
but this is not your blog, faggot.
Go cry to your mom about your shit taste

149969535
This is some shit pasta

>>149969594
Maybe I'm a bit too harsh on it, but this "Gangstar" story blows. It really takes the whole 'great evil' thing each arc had throws it away.

Positive thing I will say about this arc is that Araki so far is at the height for creative ideas, while some stand designs feel super lazy, Baby Face and Grateful Dead are super cool, and hiding out in a turtle are some crazy fucking ideas.

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>The anon that was new as fuck to mugen a couple threads ago here.
I'm super new to this, does anyone have any idea what this awkward looking glitch is? I copied a file from a premade jba themed mugen download into my fresh mugen roster and everything works for the characters except this one weird thing turning up.
I can't find these characters anywhere else either :L
Sorry in advance If it's a total retard question, as I said I'm picking this up tonight as I go.

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>>149969535
>"Is Vento objectively the worse arc in Jojo?"
>while putting 2 that high
You earned this (You) from me

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>>149969535
part 4 is my favorite too. i don't think vento is the worst arc. it's very good, not godlike but still very very good. take a break from reading it and then and start it from the beginning. i feel like you might be accidently speed reading.

>>149969675
How far are you.
Part 5's villain is basically the height of evil as far as the Jojo universe goes.

>>149969772
2 is second best part after SBR

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do you think reddo hotto chiri peppahs at max power could beat star platinum?

>>149969931
8>7>6>5>4>3>2>1

:^)

>>149969947
>za wardo
>rhcp gets destroyed.

>>149965970
As far as saving the world goes, something like Green Day is also a pretty strong contender. You could realistically wipe towns off the map with it.

>>149969931
>SBR is the best part
Pleb and memey.

>>149969972
7>2>3>6>4>5>1

>149970089
>3 above 4 and 6
k retard

>>149970069
Not him, but it really is.

It has problems, sure, but it's the one that felt the most complete.

>>149970259
>that felt the most complete.

what do you even mean

>>149970402
Johnny had a whole arc set out and he hit every beat. Many of the other parts feel rushed, but not SBR.

>>149961883
anon can you please help me where do i find jolyne hentai
/r/ing jolyne in H drawthreads doesn't help unfortunately.

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DAB

>>149970089
7>6>4>2>5>3>1

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>>149970428
>feel rushed

I will never understand this memepinion

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https://a.pomf.cat/ckyudo.webm

kek

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>>149970428
>feel rushed
>this was most complete
well, part 7 was a boring, bloated and regurgitated mess.

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>>149970752
>a guy saying "holy shit" at the kira scene
why do i care?

>>149971132
>a guy asking why he cares to me
why do i care?

>149971254

not him but take your nigger ytube channel and fuck off

^^learn to quote correctly or fuck off

you first

^^ youtube channel advertisements are not worthy of quoting

^^shut the fuck up

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CAT'S FOOT

>149971352
just fuck off nigger

>read part 7
>fights are impossible to visualize, even in colour

im done

149971550
fuck off kike

If you ship Yasuho with some ugly faggot who came out of the ground instead of an alpha she was foaming at the clit for who she actually knows and who she bought more dango for when they were in hospital then you have an actual cuckoldry fetish and should kill yourself.

>>149962201
Gold Experience Requiem

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>>149971559
don't you mean part 6?

>>149971559
part 7 is shit m8. really painful to go through all of it.

149971578
fuck off cum guzzler

>>149971645

>tusk is shown for the first time
>johnnys nails start spinning
>okay now this guy has his leg cut off why
>no actual frames to show how the nails even did that

>johnny tells his old steed to bend down so he can mount it for the first time
>he miraculously just flies onto the saddle

>any sort of action scene
>stand powers are shown as DBZ beam battles

>>149967001
NOO NOT FRUIT DAD!

>>149971763
i really hate the love train part.
>lol, we can deflect "misfortunes" now

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>>149969535
>Not wanting to be a Gangster Star.

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>>149971903
he is memeing for you. leave him

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>>149971937
Part 5 is a meme.

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>>149971952
I would take meme part 5 anyday before literary "masterpieces" 6 and 7.

>>149971952
>Old translations
No shit nigger, read it in French, Italian or Japanese or GTFO

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>>149971982
>Hating Part 7

>>149971989
>French
The most beautiful language. Why can't they have it in French?! WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE IN ENGLISH!

>>149972018
dont worry. part 4 is below average too

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>>149972049
>Part 4 below average
>Part 5 a masterpiece

>>149972049
8>7>6>5>4>3>2>1 senpai

>>149972101
>thinks part 4 is good
anime clearly shows what an incoherent mess part 4 is

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>>149960061
I feel glee at the sight of the man with deformed teeth

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Joshuu makes me horny

you should tell him that his mother should have aborted him

My animeonly friend is watching DIU, but skipped parts 5 and 6 to read SBR.

What should I tell him?

you should tell him that his mother should have aborted him.

>>149972212
Tell him to read the manga

>>149961799
Technically speaking, that's development from
>I haev to Kill erth 4 freezy
To
>SAIYAN PRIDE SAIYAN PRIDE FUCK YOU GOKU I MUST BE STRONGER DONT TOUCH ME WOMAN
to the current Vegeta, who loves his wife and is friends with Goku
That's SOMETHING
But then again, Toriyama did have like 30 years with the same characters

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>>149972183
>>149972212
Good job.

Tell him Jotaro appears at the end of SBR with Star Platinum: The World.

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I want to deeply kiss Josuke while I unzip his zippers to play with his nipples and the other hand reaches for the shaft then move my mouth to his sweet neck so I can hear his soft delinquent voice moaning my name directly into my ear

I'm surprised Hot Pants could hide her gender given she apparently is as stacked as Trish.

because hot pants was terribly written character

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Fly me to the moon would be the best ED for SO

Probe me wrong

>>149959374
Dio looked like an old lesbian.

>gangsters paradise wont be the ed for part 5
>some gay shit will be

>wants nigger rap for part 5
>not prince - gold
>>>/out/

>>149972669
This.

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>>149972517
I mean jesus look at those.

>>149972587
>implying dio isn't an old lesbian

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>>149972669
prince - gold will really suit part 5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtMEewdvnFI

>>149972669
On one hand, you're right in that it would be fitting, thousands of times more than nigger rap
But on the other hand, it's a song from prince who, along with his lawyers, is (was) the biggest autist when it comes to usage if his songs and copyright

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>tfw no okuyasu x hermes otp.

>>149964877

>more responsible
>lol let's drive through the water to escape an enemy that freezes stuff

>>149972734
If they can't get Prince due to copyright reasons then i suggest a replacement

-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcfUk5ptoCY

>>149973133
pretty awesome for a 15 year old.
what were you doing at the age of 15?

>>149973306
Am I the only one who wants David Bowie "Golden years"?

>>149973324
Getting a DB song may be difficult like Prince

Looking back on it, Mountain Tim's death was pretty sad.

Dude just wanted a family.

>>149973394
what's up with these out of context sudden sbr posts begging for yous?
>this was sad
>poor diego
>woo hp

>>149973448
SBR tards aer desperate

Looking back on it, Diego's death was pretty sad.

Dude just wanted to be a dinosaur

>>149973448
I'm not sure about the other two. Only other thing I did earlier was ask why Araki had Johnny with a weird metal bit on his hand for an arc and then dropped it.

Joseph is the biggest bully in the jojo franchise.

>Made an old man cry.

>>149973502
Don't we all just want to be dinosaurs, anon?

>>149973586
>Dinosaurs are dead
He's right

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Risotto wants you to suck his dick, what do?

>>149973549
Josuke is the biggest bully

>Stealing Rohan's money and burning his house down