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So this... is the power... of Jobetto... whoa...
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>>149715086
>curve
>hue
>brightness
what the fuck lol

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>>149715510
salva literally said he uses grain and noise filters to blend in the effects of old DBZ after he does all the drawing and shit

quit pretending you know jack shit bro
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Scene like this involving Mai please.
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>trunks and his power of friendship could beat vegito

Super went full GT. What the fuck, i thought we were doing right this time.
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>>149715857
NO THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE WANT AMIRITE. ALOT OF CONTRAST THE LESS WE CAN SEE THE BETTER. LOOK HOW GOOD THIS LOOKS
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>>149715885
>he thought Super would be good
Its worse
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>>149715872
>vegetto was trashing zamasu
i really dont see that in this webm
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Saiyajin yo...

Son Gokuu wo...
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>>149715884

Mai is too pure for that,
Teen Bra when?
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Best grandmother
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>>149715885
wrong. Vegitto is good, Spirit bomb hax only works on evil the universe rejects.
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"Job" has to be the worst buzzword retards keep spamming nowadays
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TORANKUSU?
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>>149715787
I wish Vegetto could have gotten a bit of character development. Like, is he his own person? Does he know he's only to be used in emergencies like a weapon? Was he happy that the two idiots fused so he could live again?
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>>149715990
>saggy bits
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>>149716044
yeah it's insulting to heath slater
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>>149715918
I wish Vegetto just cut Zamasu in half here
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>>149715937
you sound frustrated
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>>149715990
>Mai is too pure for that
That's the best part about it. Watching a slut get humiliated is one thing but watching a pure maiden get humiliated is something else entirely.
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>There are literally people (adults) defending DBSQUALITY
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The lord
Eternal trunks collection
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>>149716045
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>>149716044
NIce jobbing there, Anon. What a loser.
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Remember when DB was good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHbD1DufTnU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxoJ3-V2mpk
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When's the next manga chapter so we can see how the Black arc will end?
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>>149716205
no
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>>149716069
I wanna know why he had his original clothes when Vegeta wasn't wearing his onsie from the Buu Saga
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>>149716096
No, I just mised the good old times were episodes always looked good
Just look at this picture. MucH better right?? How washed out the colors are and you cant see jack shit.
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>>149715872
>>149715918
Anyone have a webm of Goku kicking Zamasu?
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Beach episode please
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>>149716182
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Miss me yet?
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>>149715872
>Sped up

Please don't ever make webms again
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>>149716138
I think it's much worse that people are actually defending the writing in this episode
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>>149716205
The manga? Yes. The anime series? Nope.
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>>149716303
yes
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>>149716246
Because it was Toei filler.
If he was in Toriyama's outline he would've been accompanied with a new design.
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>>149716252
you are retarded if you think you will convince anyone that super looks better than dbz, you can give up
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GANBARE
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>>149716320
There's a file limit, he did good.
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Vegetto Blue sounds dumb as fuck for a name while Goku Black sounds totally legit and cool.

Really makes you think
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>>149716303
>better villains
>better transformations
>better soundtrack
>better artstyle/animation
>the better fusion
yes
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>>149716303

no,
it's shit
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>>149716152
I am so used of jobbing collection on /a/ I did not expect to get an actual killing collage.
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>>149716285
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>>149716303
no
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>>149716323
All they literally had to do was have Vegetto beat up on Zamasu for 30 mins while being smug as shit

Can't believe they dropped the ball
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>>149716379

the color palette looked ugly as shit
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>>149716303
Fucking yes
Super is a fucking mistake of the highest caliber
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>>149716303
No, fuck off.
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>>149716303
yes
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>>149716379
>>better villains
>implying anyone but Baby is good
wew

Super/Movies gets a point for not fucking up Frieza truimph come back
GT fucked it up with Cell going overdrive for 10 seconds
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>>149716390

why they turn kid Goku into a hindu?
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All this needed was to be split into like three episodes
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>>149716396
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>>149716138
You are underestimating the amount of underage faggots that are on /a/
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>>149716303
4chan: the better the episode, the bigger the hate
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>>149716379
>better villains
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>better transformations
Nope
>better soundtrack
Hell no
>better artstyle/animation
Nothing in GT is anyway near pic related and >>149715872 in terms of animation
>the better fusion
No
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>>149716303
super was a mistake
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>>149716466
Slut. SLUT!
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>>149716479
Because GT forgot how to shading
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>>149716514
10/10
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Heroes' continuity > Canon/GT continuity

discuss
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>>149716473
Omega and the dragons were a good and original concept in terms of dbz. Baby was good and Super 17 wasnt THAT bad
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>tfw we'll never see the greatest Ningen eliminating duo in the universe ever again
I'm gonna miss them, guys.
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>>149716303
Baby saga > trunks pandering fanservice fairy tail tier trash
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>>149716531
>GT never gave us any Pan nudity

ONE JOB
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>>149715787
Someone help me understand.

Vegeta and Goku couldnt do shit to Super Buu with Gohan absorbed yet when they fused and became vegito he effortlessly stomped Super Buu in base form then went Super for shits n giggles. So in his base form, he was WAY above SSJ Goku.

During the golden frieza arc, Base form goku was strong enough to go against final form frieza who had jumped to a power level that was on par with with either kid buu or super buu based on their reactions yet he stomped him effortlessly, similar to Vegito vs Super Buu. Adding in SSB to Goku means he's like million times stronger so...........

why the FUCK...does SSB VEGITO who's like 10846179824671364 stronger than anything ever job to fucking ZAMSUUU who was getting man handled by Goku like 5 min ago?
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>>149716520
its like you never watched gt or super
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>>149716562
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>>149716544
>Super 17 wasnt THAT bad
only thing good about him was the design

now if the Super 17 arc didn't last for 2 episodes...
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>>149716520
>proving my point with that shitty webm
also proving that you're still a child
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>>149716514
Trunks absorbing the spirit bomb....getting the energy of vegeta/goku.
Toei recycled the broly movie and android 13. Fucking toei
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> tfw no Xenoverse references/tie-ins
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>>149716570
Vegito was playing with Zamasu, taking 1 or 2 punches is not jobbing. Also, Zamasu is a potara fusion too.
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>>149716379
>better villains

Are you serious? Even Baby is ruined by giving him a completely out of place Goku obsession. Super 17 and Omega Shenlong were the blandest villains personality-wise, without anything to make them unique.

>better soundtrack
I used to agree with this, but the soundtrack since the Trunks arc started is better than GT's, which relies way too much on variations of the opening theme.

>better artstyle/animation
I've never liked GT's big heads/small torso thing. It works well for children and Vegeta, but other characters don't really benefit from it.

And the animation itself was a joke. Even if you cut GT's best moments into a 25 min clip you couldn't make something that looks as good as the most recent Super one.
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Man this saga went downhill at the moment Goku and Vegeta went to the future.
The maximum bullshit begun with base Goku Black taking hits from SSJB Vegeta
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>>149716609
Xenoverse cant be canon cause trunks would solo everyone with the power of nakama.
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>>149716579
Show us any animation from super that's better than his webm or episode 66.
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>>149716600
I always thought Super 17 looked pretty stupid.
I caught one his episodes on tv a few months ago and all I could think of when I was looking at him was Tommy Wisseau
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>>149716609
>Omni-king sentences Trunks to work for the loli of Time
>Mai left lonely for ever
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>>149716586
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>>149716546
We all are going to miss them.
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>>149715787
Why did Vegetto have his DBZ uniform when Vegeta was wearing his combat armor and thus should have had a completely different costume?
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>>149716659
GT*
not super.
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>>149716579
I could say the same to you.
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B R A when?
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>>149716654
Trunks never got training from SSB Vegeta in the Xenoverse timeline at least that's what they want us to believe, so he wouldn't be able to do that
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>>149716619
vegetto vs buu, thats what you call toying, in super he was on par or slightly stronger, look >>149715872
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>>149716689
Maybe he keeps the cloths he got when first fused.
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>>149716672
>>149716609
i want to smell her flat tiddy odor
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How will the superior manga version fix this shitfest?
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>>149716492
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>>149716701
Yeah but xenoverse trunks is not canon so who cares.
Mary sue canon
Whiny jobber not canon
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Only people severely blinded by nostalgia think it does. GT has some of the worse aspects of the Cell arc, magnified over the course of the entire series. Most fights are incredibly dull, weightless, and generally just a chore to sit through, with Uchiyama's ever-present art style shitting things up all over.

A significant majority of the fight with Baby, for example, is just awful. Super 17 might have some of the worst-animated scenes in the whole franchise. And aside from Nova Shenron's fight, none of the Shadow Dragon fights really had a lot going for them.

Fuck, you remember the scene where Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta uses his Big Bang Kamehameha? Videogames may have made the attack look cool in recent years, but back in GT it was almost hilarious how dumb it looked and how lazy the animation for the attack was.

Here's the Super 17 "fight".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO83zq-rB10

I'm not a fan of Super's animation, but come on. People saying GT was better are being ridiculous.
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Trunks be killing every villian in DB universe.
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>>149716738
As long as you don't include Trunks making a sword from the power of friendship, you're doing better
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>>149716640
>which relies way too much on variations of the opening theme.

Not just that, a lot of it sounds like they were hamming it up. As if the composer wanted to make it as wacky as possible, I guess. It would explain why a chunk of the soundtrack sounds like circus music.

>>149716650
I'm just amazed at how transparent it is

>hey people like Future Trunks, and the concept of a dark future, let's do that again
This arc proved you can't just do that even on paper. Seeing how much they had to power up Trunks through asspulls was just ridiculous.
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>>149716619
He was being hit and pushed around against his own will IE he was being challenged. And potara fusion is stronger from what I remember. It's multiplication rather than addition which is what the finger dance crap adds
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Fuck super
Lets just appreciate dragonball girls now
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>>149716570
>Vegeta and Goku couldnt do shit to Super Buu with Gohan absorbed yet when they fused and became vegito he effortlessly stomped Super Buu in base form then went Super for shits n giggles. So in his base form, he was WAY above SSJ Goku.
Filler. And, also if you go by filler, Goku goes on to match Kid Buu who's stated to be stronger than Super Buu (Gohan).

>why the FUCK...does SSB VEGITO who's like 10846179824671364 stronger than anything ever job to fucking ZAMSUUU who was getting man handled by Goku like 5 min ago?

This episode was written by the main writer of Pokemon XY.

And, really the main issue there is that Goku had no business doing that to Zamasu in the first place either. He was a fusion of Zamasu, who was having energy clashes with Goku by himself two weeks ago, and Goku Black, who was stated to be the strongest fighter there just last week.
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>>149716754
Trunks can kill the mighty emperor of the universe but not two fucking robots. Makes you think.
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>>149716689
Because fan service, we know Vegetto with this outfit so they'll give him this outfit even if that doesn't make sense
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>>149716744
>4:23
Everytime
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>>149716795
Robots armed with laser weapons would wreck the shit out the DBZ cast
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>>149716744
it wasnt that good yet super managed to be even worse
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>>149716757
They should fix the fusion retcon too
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>>149716744
People saying super is good are ridiculous.
Super is just cashgrab.
Gt tried.
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>>149716473
>Super/Movies gets a point for not fucking up Frieza truimph come back

Frieza was a little shit that ended up fodderized by Trunks. He never deserved to come back like he did in Super.
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>>149716842
>Gt tried.
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>>149716819
It honestly looks like a flashback or dream sequence at first.
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>>149716842
>Gt tried
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>>149716840
They should, but if they simply don't mention it the manga, I'll take it as fixing that bullshit retcon.
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>>149716400
> That face
> fucking humiliated by Normal form kid goku even though he's supposed to be SSJ2 tier
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>>149716842

> daily reminder that SSJ4 Goku jobbed to a building.
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IM STILL FUCKING PISSED

SO MAD

FUCK THIS

>uses technique he DOESN'T FUCKING KNOW NOR HAS HE EVER SEEN IT
>uses technique better than someone that has trained and used it for YEARS (he didn't need to hold still with arms to collect power)
>technique IS USELESS because the planet is completely empty (Vegeta and Goku were beaten into dust and didn't have much power left)

I MEAN THIS IS THE ONE FUCKING TIME THAT TECHNIQUE IS SHIT

THE ONLY FUCKING TIME WHEN THE PLANET IS EMPTY OF LIFE

THATS WHEN HE USES IT

GO FUCK YOURSELF FUCK YOU FUCK THIS FUCK EVERYTHING

Anime = DROPPED
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>>149716842
>Gt tried.
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>>149716744
4:23
Someone please edit Nintendo ds slideshow music with that part.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b13gw6cUJI
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>>149716744
>17+17 is somehow stronger than SS4 Goku whose base mode is SS3 tier
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>>149716152
>trunks cut him dick first

wow I didn't catch that
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>>149716938
Daily reminder ssblue jobbed to a fucking laser.
Daily reminder goku jobbed to some poison.
Daily reminder final kamehameha can only destroy a building.
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>>149716974
Don't forget that Vegeta was beating Hellfighter 17 when he was in base
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>>149716541
Heroes continuity is a mess but its a contained mess I can get behind.
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>>149716744
Gt is -1000
Super is -9000
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>>149716949

isn't this the same as Tien copying the kamehameha and Black learning instant transmission out of nowhere?
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BS DB Saga
> ended up being a very poor attempt to recapture DB's feel

Baby Saga
> random minion "stronger than majin buu"
> Pan being able to fight said minion
> Base Kid Goku = SS3 Buu Saga Goku; yet cannot hold the SS3 form
> Goku dies, but instead of dying...goes to monopoly world
> lack of secondary character fights since they're all "Baby"
> blutz waves as a requirement for SS4 seems out of left-field
> Baby dies the same way M10 Broly and Cooler do.

Super 17 Saga
> Adult Trunks immediately gets beat up by Android 17
> Vegeta didn't defeat Android 17 in a fight
> Two Android 17's > SS4
> Base Kid Goku > Super 17
> Piccolo having a cheap death, after being completely absent from GT. Didn't get wished back for w/e reason.
> This whole saga didn't make much sense

Shadow Dragon Saga
> Good concept; executed poorly
> Basically only Goku fought. Pan tagged along but was pretty useless
> 7 dragons was a great opportunity for other secondary characters to fight; but it was wasted
> Vegeta becoming SS4 was pointless, he quickly became fodder
> Gogeta was pointless...it was more of a comedy episode than anything
> Omega had a very bland, boring personlity
> Gohan, Goten, and Trunks offered to help. Goku said NO, so instead they just gave Goku energy.
> Kid Goku wins by copying his win against Buu
> Goku stays a kid throughout the ENTIRE series
> Just a series of revenge stories (Tuffles v Saiyans, Dr Gero+Myuu v Goku, Dragons v Z-fighters), with minimal universe-building
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>>149716640
>Baby is ruined by giving him a completely out of place Goku obsession
The same Goku obsession Zamasu had? Also he hated all Saiyans, not only Goku.

>Super 17
Super 17 was a rehash of the Cell Saga, but not worse than Freezer Strikes Again Saga.

>Omega Shenlong
He was similar to Kid Buu, he was evil because he was born that way, also he was mad humans used his power so many times besides the fact his mere presence destroyed everything surrounds him, so killing him was necessary no matter what.
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>>149716152
Sasuga best boy
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DBS manga>>>>DBS anime>>>>Shit>>>>GT
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Honestly super is a mess.
The retellings are a waste of time.
U6 arc was done poorly.
Trunks arc had potential and threw it all away for the sake to pander to trunksfags.
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>>149716949
>THE ONLY FUCKING TIME WHEN THE PLANET IS EMPTY OF LIFE
Only humanity was killed. Animals and plants were still around and they were shown giving power to Trunks too.
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>>149717052
Just like how I remember it. so muhc better
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>>149715884
How is this allowed
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>>149717064
And Trunks learning Mafuba as well as Goku using kamehameha for the first time
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>>149716078
>slight banana curve
>saggy
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It was nice to see Vegito again, he's one of my favorite characters, but I think I would have actually preferred Gogeta. The Potara retcon was stupid and unnecessary.

>>149716303
As garbage as GT is, I still really like SS4.
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Remember Kid Goku tanking Omega's attacks when before Omega was beating the shit out of SS4 Goku and SS4 Vegeta?
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>>149717052
Wtf this looks hella nice lmao.
But still bullshit asspull.
I mean animation wise the trunks arc is pretty consistent. its average but not too bad. Its just the story execution that is a mess.
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>>149716152
Toei turned a good character into a Mary Sue.
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>>149716842
>Gt tried.
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>>149717068
>Good concept; executed poorly
GT in a nutshell
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>>149716996
>Daily reminder ssblue jobbed to a fucking laser.
movie=/=super!

reee
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Should have just animates neko majin then wasting their time with this fucking cancer.
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>>149717064
kamehamaha is a simple ki blast tech. Didnt cell learn instant transmission just because lolgokudna. Black has that.
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>>149716792
>kid buu stated to be stronger than super buu
nice head canon, When super buu was transforming to kid buu his power only went up because he reverted to his south kai absorbed buu(buff buu) for a second until he stabilize and became kid buu. Even goku notes his power has decreased,
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>>149717064
>>149717152
Trunks has never even seen the spiritbomb.
mafuba was bullshit as well.
kamehameha isn't that hard everyone worth their salt has their own energy beam.
Black was in Goku's body and we don't know how much research he did on Goku's skills.
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>>149716303
At least it was already over by now.
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>>149717077
>The same Goku obsession Zamasu had? Also he hated all Saiyans, not only Goku.
He hated specifically Goku since he went out of his way to not possess him in order to beat him in combat. It makes no sense that his revenge was focused on him, rather than Vegeta, the son of the man that actually killed his race.

Zamasu's Goku obsession actually fits his character, and it's not like it was the entire focus of his character. There was the whole bit about sadistically punishing Trunks too.

>Super 17 was a rehash of the Cell Saga, but not worse than Freezer Strikes Again Saga.
>He was similar to Kid Buu, he was evil because he was born that way, also he was mad humans used his power so many times besides the fact his mere presence destroyed everything surrounds him, so killing him was necessary no matter what.
I'm not talking about the Saga itself, but their personality as villains. You say that Omega was similar to Kid Buu - and he was in concept, but yet rather than behaving like some primal force like Kid Buu we get generic villain speeches.
The same thing goes to Super 17. He doesn't have any real motivation aside from being created to kill Goku, and they destroy the original 17's character just for that mindless villain.
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>>149716303
Yes, at least I could laugh with kid Goku.
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>>149716842
Gt tried
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>>149717237
Movie> retellings
Akira>toei
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inb4 Zamasu isn't dead yet
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>>149717251
I'm saying that in the filler (the only place where Base Vegeto fought Super Buu) it was stated that Kid Buu was the strongest Buu. Yeah, in the manga, that's not the case, but I was just pointing out another filler scene since he mentioned one.
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You're all complaining about Trunks pulling off the win but we've gone through several threads in the last couple hours with few to no quality Vegito screencaps from the ep

Rectify this, I have a collection to complete
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>>149715872
>multi-universe Busters.
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>>149717169
Kid Goku was always the strongest character in the series.
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>>149717064
black was a kaio, they all know instant transmission
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Fuck gt and fuck super.
Both shits are not canon.
Dragonball ended with the original manga.
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>>149716842
>GT tried
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>>149717350
>where and how
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>>149717389
>Both shits are not canon.
b-but muh xenoverse
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>>149717407
Xenoverse edit
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>>149716379
>better fusion
you lost me
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>>149716688
>That fucking file name
Zumasu seems like those "cool guys".
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>>149717068
>Piccolo having a cheap death, after being completely absent from GT. Didn't get wished back for w/e reason.
Piccolo did an hero because he thought that if the dragon balls disapperared everlasting peace could be archieved. It was the only moment of GT that I liked.
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>>149717322
>Internet Explorer
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>>149717407
>>149717350
Mods. This is why PC version > Console. You can mod everything.
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>>149717431
Or they could just kill the dragon like Piccolo's father did in the past.
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>>149716303
doesn't matter what faggots say, SS4 will always be better as a concept, and better looking than SSB
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SAY MY NAME YOU KEKS
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>>149717478
I'm not saying that was a good idea, just that I liked the moment with PIccolo's last words.
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>>149716949
There were still animal and plant life throughout the world. Only humans were dead. Plus people learn techniques out of nowhere anyway. THe whole planet probably gave him the power to do that by itself. Lol
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>>149715960
Because he was doing his usual "oh no I am defeated uuuuugh" prank at the end; if you watched the ep you would know this.
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>>149717524
Cucks
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>>149717524
>you keks
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>>149716327
what the fuck is this bullshit?
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>>149717524

best boy
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>>149717524
thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjllfs0QyEo
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>>149717511
agreed. it's the final culmination of saiyan power and looks like it's should. blue is so fucking lazy it hurts.
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>>149716514
Kek
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>>149717068
Latest DBS episode is literally the fight against Omega except in different order and way more rushed.
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>>149717524
Broly Jr.
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>>149717524
Why couldnt he just turn blue instead of the spirit bomb shit?


He's going to participate in the multiverse tournament isnt he?

Zeno will be all like "alternate timelines count!"
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Why are we still pretending that this episode was bad?
Did Vegetto not getting the kill just like last time bother you that much?
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>>149717524
Donald mcCuck
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>>149715986
Why does the left side have the color scheme of Beerus?
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>>149717524
Luke Skywalker.
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>>149717560
another day another newfags
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>>149717524
TORANKUSU
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>>149717524
Kirito
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>>149717524
>Asspull mary sue fuckboi
The one who ruined super
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>>149717597
It's not vegetto not getting the kill that irks me, its toei ret conning how potara fusions work.
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>>149717613
I know about CuCK changing into KEK you fuck.
he is the one forgetting about it
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>>149716152
>Only 1 character has been able to kill him
twice
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>>149717424
1 MINUTE FUSION
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>>149717597
There was literally no reason for vegeta and goku to fuse.

They didn't do any lasting damage. The fusion was permanent. The fusion didn't even last the full hour. The fusion didn't make them far stronger than Zamasu. Trunks with base Goku/vegeta energy is apparently stronger than fusion
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>>149717597
He just got nerfed and retconned in the same episode. You can't make this ship up.
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Reminder that Goku lost to this scrawny, underweight boy in GT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MDRLb3j020
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>>149717597
People arent upset about trunks being the one. its just the way that was pure bs.
And if you dont get it. it just means you're an underage cucklord
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So will little Trunks finally win the lolipussy?
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>>149717650
It makes sense and is way better than buus farts defusing them
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>>149716842
>Gt tried.
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>>149716264
Watch next episode where Zeno forces everyone to the past, and destroys Trunks's timeline for playing with time.
Then he wants Trunks to go through a trial, in which it is been decided that he must compete in the tournament if he wants to go back to his world again. So as Trunks trains to fully master his god powers one day Mai forces him to the beach, and calms him down with her Mais
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>>149717322
Vegito's in the episode for 5 minutes.
Almost all of his fight was in the preview
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>>149717068
Stop copy pasting this meme. GT errors are reapeted in Super but worse. Gohan tried to help, failed big time, promised to train to protect his family, then his character was thrown in the void, Trunks and Goten love to fight and wish to his dads, but the plot always finds ways to get rip ofof them. At least they should let them get stronger because the kids love fighting. Piccolo got fucking depowered, SSJ Gohan is stronger than him, a fucking villain in the same level as Namek full power Frieza can defeat him.
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The only way someone can accurately compare GT vs Super is if they haven't seen it in the past. Then watch one episode of Super, one episode of GT, and repeat.. A lot of us saw GT when we were young- and I think this nostalgia is making us think it's better than it actually is.
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>>149717701
After this arc when his hormones kick in
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Maybe I missed something, but what happened to Zamasu's immortality?
Did he somehow lose it after fusing with Black?
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>>149717664
Why is Cell so based
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>>149717796
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Did they finally explain wtf trunks new form is?
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>>149717701
Mai a shit, present Msi is a slut.
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>>149717764
>At least they should let them get stronger because the kids love fighting.
They love playing around. They refused to train for the tournament when Vegeta told them they couldn't just fuse to fight there. Maybe Trunks will be more responsible now after this arc though.
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>>149717098
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>>149717776
I'm sure they will fuck by the time EoZ happens.
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>>149717796
He's perfect
that's why

>>149717813
this supports it
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>>149717597

rushed as fuck

Goku allegedly killing black inside the fusion
And him not fucking doing it earlier when he was pissed at them?

Total bullshit.


Convenient retcons that make the plot seem forced


Inconsistencies in power (inb4 huur pL don't matter except every time they did)

Trunks getting the gary stu treatment faring off against foes he has no dealfighting

unlocks a super duper special mode for his sword using power of friendship garbage and a pseudo genkidama.

Copying broly and android 13 movie to finish off zamasu
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>>149717825
Nope. Now go buy all the DLC, trading cards, and toys with Trunks
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>>149716303
no
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>>149717788
Kind of. They think he did, but he just has worse regeneration now, but he's actually still immortal, like the spoilers for next week revealed.
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>>149717849
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>>149717767
nostalgia is making it good now because we actually enjoyed i back then, no one in 20 years from now on will ever say that super was good
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>>149717826
F.Mai is still 10/10 waifu material
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Will Zeno delete Trunks?
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>>149717903
So are you.
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>>149717813
>I can understand that you don't like to fight
>But I am not going to give you that opinion
>Cell is literally like Gohanfag if he would have some power over the series
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>>149717918
Dear fucking god, I hope so
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>>149715787
>It's pretty much guaranteed that Buu's magic is what split up the fusion
>"lol no its cuz your not kais just forget what we already explained to you"
>Now super duper supreme kai magic can't withstand Vegito's power and poops out in the middle of the fight
Alright, this was some top tier bullshit. There were a million better ways they could have gone about it and they picked this shit.
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>>149716400
They only had to draw him for a couple of episodes, and still couldn't be bothered to get his face right.

Fucking GT.
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>>149717893
SHUT THE FUCK UP
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>>149717767
I saw GT this year, it was kind of bad but kid Goku and Pan were fun. Super is a bit the same thing, it's bad but there's the fan service and shit to make it watchable.
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>>149717880
I see
I suppose just as his immortality became shit, Black's zenkai on seteroids is gone too.
Otherwise, if he returns, he should be untouchable after all the damage he's received.

Anyhow, the writing for this episode was so bad, Goku did more damage on Zamasu than Vegetto.
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>>149717942
D-DELET
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>>149717918
nah, if Zeno tries to kill the timeline Trunks will just beat him.
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>>149717918
No, but he will make Trunks the Hakaishin of all the universes in his timeline
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>>149717885
>got a makeover so won't be confused with Goku
He'd need screentime for that to happen.
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>>149717767
Docter, thank you for the Zamasu medicine today while watching episode 66. Nearly forgot my daily dose today.
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>>149716570
He didn't job to Zamasu he was just fucking around and ran out of time when he tried to finish it. Remember that Zamasu was a fusion too so his strength was increased the same was Vegito's was. The real bullshit was Trunks somehow being as strong as if not stronger than Vegito, AND using a spirit bomb (how) that was enough to oneshot Zamasu with his sword. Especially when the spirit bomb should have been weak as fuck since almost everyone was dead anyway.
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>>149717918
At this point, if Zen-o tried that, Trunks would just go EVEN FURTHER BEYOND! and defeat him.
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>>149717893
>because we actually enjoyed i back then,
Maybe if you were retarded
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>>149717947
How does this BS explain old Kai since hes fused with an old witch whos not a Kai
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>>149718002
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>>149717947
They should have just used Gogeta instead - even if he's never been written in canon.
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>>149717960
fanservice like vegetto and trunks, fucking great
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>>149717885
Why doesn't it mention that Satan and Boo are married
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>>149718030
As long as there is one Kai, the fusion is permanent.
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>>149718002
Why does Goten exist?
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>>149717918
No, he is just there to ask Goku about the friend he wanted to introduce to him.

That friend will now be Trunks. Goku and Trunks will ask Zeno to fix the earth and he will do it to make his new friends happy.
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>>149718016
>>149717982
Will you please stop with this bad meme
It was set in stone for Trunks to end Zamasu.
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>>149718059
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>>149717524
ERZA
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>>149717825
Nope since it's Toei filler to make more merchandise.
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>>149717893
DELETE THIS YOU KEK
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So we're all expecting Zeno to just go "lol I dont care about multiple timelines, let me just fix up this timeline so it isnt destroyed"?
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>>149718059
Fusion padder.
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>>149717918
seeing how trunks scaled from 3 to 100 in just a couple of days, I think he'll completely be BTFO by the gary sturankusu and by that I mean totally obliterated more than the 6 universes that he destroyed.
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I think people are starting to forget just how much bullshit, retcons and nonsensical shit DBZ had. To the point where they believe this episode was any worse.
Nostalgia is truly a scary thing.

Remember when Goku was just a monkey kid?
Well fuck you he's now an alien and pretty much super man.
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>>149718049
Depends what you care about I guess. I never gave a single shit about any of the fusions so don't really care that he made a rushed appearance. I thought Trunks getting mad and ending it all was nice, even though it did come out of (almost) nowhere.
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>>149717835
>They refused to train for the tournament
The fuck are you saying? They just knew about the tournament an hour before telling Vegeta and Goku they wanted to participated, Goten time and time again has showed he can be serious, he wanted to help Goku and Co. agaisnt Black because he knew Earth was in danger.
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>>149717524
i was waiting Hikari No Will Power to play
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>>149717885
Took me a minute to notice.
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>>149717918
Trunks will be hakai'd

his powers will be transferred to Gohan, only for Gohan to lose them again
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>>149717918
but trunks is stronger than zeno
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Holy fuck all these butthurt people.
Why the fuck are you guys sperging over a meme show?
Your fault for watching dbs unironically you bunch of autistic manchildren hahaha.
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>>149718045
They had to use Vegetto to introduce the potara nerf.
If it didn't happen this arc it would've happened in another.
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>>149717701
You know, I never thought I'd see the day when I like Kid Trunks more than Future Trunks. But here we are,
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>>149717947
Honestly seems like it was set up this way to cheat us out of Beerus vs vegtio..cant have them beating Beerus that easily
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>>149718128
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>>149717825
They explained the Ultra Trunks thing of the original DBZ? Trunks it's the Naruto of this franchise in therms of bullshit power ups and they ain't gonna explain shit.
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>>149717942
>Cell is the biggest Gohanfag there is
>Gohan kills him
damn
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>>149718110
>Remember when Goku was just a monkey kid?
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>>149718160
DB fanbase is full of autistic manbabies who take the series way too seriously.
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>>149718160
>haha if i call them manchildren that will make super better ahaha
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>>149716303
Yes.
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>>149718176
Beerus against a fusion isn't fair anyway.
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>>149717825

Trunks is a god ninja.
He has some senju ancestors.
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>>149717524
The father of my children
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>>149718216
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>>149718101
I think Goku's just gonna accidentally press it and those 2 kids that I can't fucking stand are gonna be his new best friends.
>>
I was almost brought to tears by being hyped by Dragon Ball for the first time since I was seven years.
Holy shit what a great saga, one of my favourites.
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>>149718163
What for though?
What's the point of nerfing it?
It's not as if Goku is interested in beating Beerus as Vegetto, since he wants to beat Beerus himself.

Goku and Vegeta only consider fusion an option whenever there's a massive threat, as in the cases of Buuhan and Zamasu.
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>>149718216
Why is Gohan touching that
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>>149716303
hell yes
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>>149718256
Which ones will be the better parents, /a/?
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>>149718259
>2 kids that I can't fucking stand are gonna be his new best friends.
Not enough screen time and I dont think you're giving Zeno credit.


Zeno's friends will be Yajirobe and Korrin.
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>>149717825
Spirit Mode
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>>149718160
>"Meme show"
Toei fags giving up
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>>149718285
>>149718216
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>>149718264
t. shameless trunksfag
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>>149718160
Thx for admitting that dbs is a fucking joke you faggot
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>>149718281
>Goku and Vegeta only consider fusion an option whenever there's a massive threat

Unless Super plans on having no massive threats then eventually people would just be crying for Vegetto to showup.
There's a reason why fusions got written off when Goku fought Beerus on king kai's planet.
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>>149718352
To be honest I am more of a Cell fag.
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>>149718310
They're bullshit power of belief was what started this painfully bad ending.
I think that's enough for Zeno to be bff with them
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>>149718115
They wanted to participate, then Vegeta tells them they can't use fusion and have to get strong by themselves and then they give up.
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>>149715884
What is this from?
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Did they finally fucking explain wtf black did when he opened a portal in the sky and made some weird ass clones appear? He said something about new timelines opening up.
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>>149718304
Future ones.
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>>149718440
naruto
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>>149718304
F.Parents will be that happy family which /a/ hates, and rants 24/7 about of how shit it is, however still knows they deeply wish for something like that.
P.Parents will get a divorce after some years
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>>149718458
even toei doesnt know what it was
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>>149718110
I can't think of any inconsistencies as bad as Mary no Trunks

Learned Mafuba in like 10 mins from a video.
Can compete with God mode level characters out of nowhere.
Defeat a person that Vegetto couldn't beat with some bullshit he shouldn't have access to.

It was a little too much. It sucks because Goku Black has been pretty decent.

Not to mention all of Zamasu's advantages went away by fusing.

He seemed both weaker and not immortal.
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>>149718327
That Gero always gets me
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>>149717885
>Goku and Vegeta stay young while their wives get old and ugly

Damn that's rough
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>>149718310
>kusogakis who eats up half the runtime whenever they appear on an episode
>not enough screen time
the idea of them befriending zeno is shit doe
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>>149718389
Not really
By massive threat I meant situations in which either they fuse or the world is fucked.
The only times that has happened was during Super Buu and during this arc. This is, twice in the entire history of DB.

Goku and Vegeta hardly ever consider fusion, since they're too prideful to abuse it.
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>>149716872
>>149716899
>>149716960
>>149717224
>>149717284
>>149717400
>>149717713
Sure is /v/ around here.
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>>149717064
False equivalence, kamehameha was never treated as something special like the mafuba or spirti bomb.
FFS goku replicated it after seeing it once, tien also had better techniques in stock which only helpes to show how low-tier kamehameha was in terms of difficulty.
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>>149718555
apparently goku only had sex with chichi twice and never even kissed her so it isn't like he cares.
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>>149718533
We all ranted how it would have made him weaker. It is not really something mind blowing.
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>>149715872
>>149715918
do you have a webm of Vegetto turning VEGETTO BLUE
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>>149716619
>>149718011
>H-he was only holding back and playing around! That's why he lost!
No, you fucking retards. He was only doing that against Buu because he wanted to save Piccolo, Gohan and the kids, so he goaded Buu until he got absorbed. He had no reason to do that this time, and he didn't. He was obviously trying his damndest to win. If you couldn't see that during their power struggle, or during his Final Kamehameha, then you're a fucking idiot.
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>>149718592
You should be banned
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>>149716744
and I thought the Vegeta emasculation was bad in Super
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>>149717918
>yfw zeno fixes trunks universe and brought everyone to life
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>>149715249
>made it worse
I don't think so. Personally, I like how grainy and rough it looks. The lines look more like pencil strokes instead of hard computer lines. It looks more natural and thoughtful even if it really isn't. I'm also a fan of simple shading. I hate it when things are too busy like they are in Super. The animators go so crazy with shading in the wrong spots that everyone looks like they're made of plastic. When is the last time you saw someone with such a smooth face that their cheek was literally a white glare? You may have "made the picture worse", but to me you fixed a lot of what is wrong with Super.
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>>149718596
Fuck off Jose
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>>149718592
that would only make sense if the lower panel is showing this scene >>149716520 with the watermelon field and shit
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>>149718581
>By massive threat I meant situations in which either they fuse or the world is fucked.

It was written off in battle of gods, it wasn't needed in RoF since Gold Frieza stamina was draining and it wasn't allowed in the tournament where the worst case scenario was being Champa's new cooking slaves.

>The only times that has happened was during Super Buu and during this arc. This is, twice in the entire history of DB.

Fusion wasn't even a thing before the Buu arc so it's moot.
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>>149718619
you should get immortality and saiyan dna by fusing.

You shouldn't lose immortality and zenkai. When alive Goku fused with dead Vegeta they created alive Vegetto.

This fusion doesn't make sense.
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He made Zamasu cry, did he win the Smug Off?
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Naotoshi Shida's a good animator, but I feel like his scenes and choreography has this kind of ADHD quality to it. He doesn't get martial arts (which he admits to,) and his sequences (though pretty,) are lacking in weight.

Compare it to something brief like this:
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/20108/animated-dragon_ball_gt-dragon_ball_series-effects

or this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPIGt5fpysM

What do you think?

I promise I'm not trying to start a Z/Super/GT war. I'd like to discuss animation in DB as a whole.
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Leave him alone you ningens
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what even is the point of this transformation?
It's only relevant once in the whole series
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>>149718645
Doesn't mean he jobbed. He was in control most of the fight and was about to win but got fucked by the time limit they arbitrarily added to let Trunks win while still giving the Vegito fanservice.
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>>149718756
no it was pitiful

He had two good moments. Punching him during his Soliloquy and the sword.

Everything else was far too close in power.
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Well, the final moment in which Zamasu gets BTFOed is cool, but the amount of bullshit in this episode is off the scale.

>friendship sword
>potara fusion retcon

god damn it
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Like if you agree
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>>149717776
where the fuck are his eyes
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Trunks hasn't been this badass since he killed Freeza the first time.
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>>149716949
If you can't clearly interpret what happened, you're retarded.

The planet rejected Zamasu. It gave Trunks the power to beat him. THAT is the essense of the Spirit Bomb.

So what if Future Trunks has access to hax techniques? That was brilliant to give it to the future version since now he doesn't have to be in the regular plot.

10/10
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>>149718645
>Be Vegito
>Think you're a permanent fusion
>Nah jk majin buu's magic defused you, sux bro

>Be Vegito
>Learned your lesson
>Kais say you have an hour, so let's do an hour
>Nah jk you're too strong so you're defused, sux bro

Vegito is constantly getting fucked over by the plot gods to make up for his inability to lose.
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>>149716925
>SSJ2 tier
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>>149718841
>may dead
>no boost
>call him a ningen
>hes stronger than blue now
thats logical, isnt it?
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>>149716152
Wheres Trunks killing Dabura and Babadi?
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>>149718841
Why do facememes always have 1996-tier compression on all images, anyway?
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>>149718841
Stop posting fb memes
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>>149718924
'cuz FB is cancer and it always resizes images to that sort of resolution when you're viewing it on timelines
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>>149716949
>Vegeta and Goku were beaten into dust and didn't have much power left

They just defused and got hit once.

Zamasu on the other hand was punched around for hours without ever eating a Zensu.
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>>149718743
Alright Black-star let me put this in a way that you understand.
For a fusion to be complete the two bodies need to match perfectly, which doesn't shit if whatever fusion method that is used.
His fusion was incomplete. Because it was the fusion of a immortal Supreme Kai, and the same Supreme Kai with the body of a saiyan god. It doesn't mean shit of whatever ability he may have if the two fusion partners isn't compatible with each other. Which they sure as hell wasn't.
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>>149718909
KEK
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>>149718923
5th pic
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>vegito unfuses because of too much energy usage/time limit now
nice show, toei, super is non canon
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>>149718923
the 2nd last picture.
Btw Beerus-Sama please Hikai me.
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>>149718909
Never say the n word
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>>149718963
>For a fusion to be complete the two bodies need to match perfectly,


You are wrong. Kibito and Supreme Kai was as far apart as possible. Yet Kibito-Kai was amazed at how superior he was.


The only fusion that mentioned anything about being similar was the fusion dance.
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>>149719005
it never was
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>>149718596
/vg/ actually
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>>149719005
actually this does make sense considering that humans should be allowed to use God Ki... probably the potara can't handle that energy

plus we are talking about Toriyama
he is a joker
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>>149719033
fucking ningens and their retarded chimp outs
zamasu was right
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>>149719016
No, I want you to live.
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>>149719046
Gowasu said it is different for gods.
Shin being the East Supreme Kai, and Kibito being his guardian.
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>>149718784
best version of the transformation. SS3 a shit
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So if I already watched the BoG/RoF movies, what episode do I want to hop in at to get straight to the original Super content?
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>>149719072
>more facts out of your ass
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>>149718963
>>149719046
Pretty much this. The potara rings had the advantage that you could fuse with every other being without restrictions. But it seems that they retconned this at the last moment in Super.
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>>149719091
At least yfw Hakai me then
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Seriously tho, I can accept the weird ss blue rip off trunks did, but was it that hard to just make him go SS 3-not-blue and rekt zamasu, instead of making him officially a mary sue?
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Share and like if you agree
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>>149719091
whis can release my stress, if you know what i mean
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pakmnho9l5E


>potara fusion is far more effective than that fusion dance


>how long will we stay joined? IT HAS NO TIME LIMIT

>elder kai fused with a mortal

it was a retcon of the worst kind
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>>149719142
hey it's an anime not fucking black science
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>retcon Potara fusion permanence
>Jobetto
>Trunks: Humans stronk!
>Zamasu: "W-what is this power!?"

10/10, Toei. Fucking masterpiece
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>>149719131
28 is tournament, 47 is Black
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>>149716840
No.
Fuck that.
I like the fusion retcon.
The potara being more powerful then the regular fusion technique but only lasting for an hour with mortals is good.
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Could Beerus defeat Blackmasu?
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>>149719191
>we could have had Vegito coming back to the main timeline
>but instead retcon a stupid fucking time limit into the fusion
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>>149719170
4chan is so shit.
We getting invaded by a facebook normie
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>>149716842
>Gt tried
Nah, it succeeded.
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Zamasu started melting because he got hit really hard. That's it. Incompatibility between a mortal body and that of a Kai shouldn't be a problem, since Elder Kai turned out fine despite being the fusion between a Kai and a witch. Witches like Baba can come and go without much issue.

If they wanted to line up with canon events, they could have said that Zamasu began falling apart because his body -- though previously immortal -- couldn't keep up with the strain of being locked in a Super Saiyan state. Like Elder Kai warned Goku would happen way back in the Buu arc.
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>>149718219
That wasnt in the original japanese.
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>>149718886
Vegito not being a permanent fusion is not getting fucked over by the plot gods.

Vegito being that fucking retarded powerful and a permanent fusion is a fuck up that even Toriyama had to acknowledge and fix.
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at least that 5 minute Vegito Blue fight will add new content to the games
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>>149719239
Zamasu melted because he was emotionally unstable.
Did you even bother watching the show?
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>>149719192
its a fucking retcon, stop defending it with your fanfic science
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>>149715884
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Mai here.
How do you pay back Trunks for saving our world?
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>>149719329
By cancelling the fucking show
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>>149716531
Is Pan best DBZ girl?
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>>149719191
They stated that there needs to be a kai, not that both of them need to be a kai.

Neither goku nor vegetta or kais
But the elder kai was once the supreme kai AND he fused with a wtich(I honestly believe that toriyama wishes he never made that joke)so it's permanent.
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>>149719290
>implying I care
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>>149719329
kill yourself so he can become stronger
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>Super has retconned more things than GT did at this point
My sides.
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>>149719329
You know what needs to be done, Mai.
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>>149718784

Is the max level a normal Saiyan can reach in normal conditions.

SSJ3 can only be archieved in the afterlife with a dead body or using a "magic body" (Gotenks) and pretty sure that "Blue aura SSJ2" Trunks had on Super was a half saiyan-only state of the SSJ2.
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>>149719346
DBZ belongs to 18, best girl of the series is Mai
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>>149719363
you care enough to defend it
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>Cucking goddamn Vegetto out of the fight for the sake of making Trunks into an even more insufferable Gary Stu piece of garbage than he already was
Who the fuck at Toei thought that would be a good idea? Even the Nips hated that shit.
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>>149719377
>retconning something goku's hunch.
It's better than Djinn digestive system.
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>>149716345
Besy DBS moment to this day,in fact trunks being the one to save his own future is the only thing that made sense in DBS this far
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>>149718963
No, that's the fusion dance.

The Potaro allows any two sentient being to fuse 100% and come out of it with increased power for whatever reason.
And apparently unless one or both of them are kai/gods then it's not permanent.
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How can super retcon stuff if its not even canon on the first place.
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>>149716514
jesus fuck im dead
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>>149719381
B-but I'm only like thirty.
Besides Trunks's new forms kind of scares me.
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>>149716303
Kek no
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>>149719377
what did gt retconned?
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>>149719439
the only continuity that exists is Heroes'

prove me wrong
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>tfw I liked Trunks until super happened
why
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>>149719285
Did you?

>What's going on? Why isn't his body healing?
>It's true that Zamasu's body is immortal. But Black's was not.
>Half of his body is Black... You mean his mortal body is having an effect on his immortal one?
>Yes.

The rest was just fluff from Gowasu about how Zamasu's deformation represents his inner turmoil. It's not /because/ of that, though.
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R.I.P Zamasu the only true hero of this franchise.
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>>149716514
Lol at that lonely faggot
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>>149717524
Kazuto Scarlet
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>>149719463
>Goku only bite threats he won't get easily killed from
fixed
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>>149719419
wasn't it Old Kai who said it
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>>149719428
Anon when I meant when the bodies isn't compatible I didn't mean it literally.
I meant power wise. Black wasn't immortal, and Zamasu was weaker then a SSJ2.
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>>149719266
Prove it mr japanese man
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How will Super end?
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>>149719512
that guy is the /a/ faggots defending this shit
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>>149719191
The show retconned itself when Vegito unfused in the Buu saga. If anything, this episode finally explained the anomaly.

Not a retcon at all. I don't get why people keep saying that.
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>>149719439
Shhhh let the autistic manchildren rage haha. this threads are fucking golden
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>>149719409
I just wanted to post lewd Bulmas
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the only people upset are the Vegettofags and Gohanfags; Gohanfags are upset because Gohan didn't get to do this when he was the strongest unfused character and Vegettofags are upset because they thought he was the endgame when the arc is literally called the "FUTURE TRUNKS ARC"
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>>149719463
nothing, GT was a proper continuation to DBZ, its more cannon than Super
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>>149719552
gako is retarded joke!!!!111 goodbye guys
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>>149719552
They way it started.
Goku flying off to somewhere with no to see where he would go.
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>>149717868
>Loli and shota shouting > Vegito
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>>149717569
Best Theme,Best Boy,Most powerful Z warrior and the Hope of humanity Itself how can he be so Based
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>>149719454
>Only 30
Hurry up and help Trunks repopulate before you aren't fertile anymore. You'll get used to his new form.
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>>149719570
Manga version: majin energy nullified the potara effect
Super: ningens got one hour... 10min... ok 5
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>>149719570
It's a retcon by definition, anon.
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>yfw Zeno revives everyone
>Including F. Gohan.
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so what's the next arc gonna be about?
this arc was even more nostalgia pandering than Resurrection F
what can be done?
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>>149719622
A-alright... if that is what must be done.
But only after his father and his friends goes back to the past.
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>>149719642
>>149719652
it was a fucking speculative hunch by Goku.
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>>149719463
>Zamass isn't a real threat
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>>149716303
I hope they didn't totally kill the SSJ4 concept and gave them to the saiyans of another universe
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So we gogeta now?
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>>149719593
That's false, though. Trunksfags and people who thought this arc was off to a good start are also showing their disappointment with the writing.

Enjoy the (you)s while they last, though.
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>>149717524
super gary stu trunks fuck off, and let the old one come back
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>>149718533
Dude, the only good thing to come out of goku black is granny goku doing the evil voice.
All of this shit was fucking retarded.

Want to know what?

For 10 seconds TEN GODDAMNED SECONDS I seriously thought that Zamasu black would become some kind of weird cool looking monstrosity.
The moment he started crying and talking about taking on the sins of the universe and go full on crazed nut religious wannabe deity?
I thought FUCK YEAH SHITS ABOUT TO POP OFF
THIS IS GONNA BE ZAMASU'S THING!!
HES GOING TO CHANGE INTO SOME PURPLE LOOKING MONSTROSITY AND BECOME EVIL TO MATCH HIS EVIL WAY OF THINKING!!!
THIS IS GONNA BE WHERE THEY HAVE TO FIGHT HIM SERIOUSLY!!

Nope.
Zamblack punched vegetto so hard that they diffused then GAMBAERE TRUNKS-KUN!!!
Magical faggot spirit bomb sword out of fucking nowhere.

Fucking SSJ2 Trunks no matter how much they try to say he's got more potential then gohan or how PERFECTED his SSJ2 is, should have gotten his fucking NECK SNAPPED by Zamblack. What in the fuck!?!!?

This is a show that motherfucking DEPENDS on consistent power levels. What the shit.
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>>149719673
yamcha going ssj, we already know that ningens can use the ritual too
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>>149719593
vegettofag here
as soon as they introduced the time limit, I knew it was going to be Future Trunks who will deliver the final blow
also that one scan with the new weakness and the comment on how Future Trunks will have a big role was a red flag for me
I got my Vegetto fanservice and I'm satisfied

I will wait for the manga though, I doubt that Vegetto will appear in the manga adaptation though

>>149719709
I like both, but I'm more of a Vegettofag
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>>149719653
>F.Gohan comes back just to recon him in which he meets the revived F.Videl and becomes the Gohan we so dearly hate.
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>>149719587
you can't fool me Oolong
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>>149719718
XV trunks is this same trunks, idiot. Which balances things out.
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i'll be honest, all these complaints about plot points and retcons in super, and the one thing that still irritates me the most is the fact that future trunks' hair is blue
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>>149719692
It's still a revision of canon events, so it's a retcon. Unless you mean to suggest that the 1-hour limit isn't "new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events, typically used to facilitate a dramatic plot shift or account for an inconsistency."
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>>149719745
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>>149719709
*CANON gogeta
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>>149717524
Ningen
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Oh yay. Another DB thread replete with shitposting and underage b& spamming the words cuck and job. Marvelous.
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>>149719170
He's like white nigger

white because he actually has money
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>>149717796
Imperfect cell is based.
Perfect Cell is a total fuccboi.
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>>149719593
You are right, I am a Trunksfag and I am enjoying all the tears. Besides, let's be honest, he was the one who was going to kill Zamasu for all the things he did to him.
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>>149718055
Buu created his own waifu
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>>149716842
>Gt tried
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>>149719709
considering the shit they've been pulling off to nerf fusions, gogeta blue would last 5 seconds
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>fanfic doujins is better than GT and Super
what the fuck happened
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>>149719570
Totally different.

Vegeto originally got unfused because buu's malice was an unique unexpected thing. That sounded fine.
Saying that now theee is a time limit is a retcon.
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Reminder that Kaioshin didn't even know what the Potata were and what they can do

also Reminder that Elder Kai is and intergalactic old perv, with senile dementia that watches female all around the universe all day and got himself trapped in a sword thanks to Based Beerus
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>>149719841
Dragon Ball was a mistake, Toriyama should have continued Arale, instead.
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>>149719851
it was speculation by Goku. GOKU; the same guy who drank water that would kill him; AND DIDN'T
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>>149719709
>>149719835
>Gogeta defuses so fast nobody even notices he was there
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thanks toei, now vegetto will be as hated as gogeta is
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>>149719725
>Magical faggot spirit bomb sword out of fucking nowhere.

This was like a Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo powerup in it's absurdity. Trunks didn't even pray for power or ask like a traditional genki dama or anything.

He just started stealing energy basically. Which is actually pretty cool if he becomes the real villain of this arc
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>>149719692
>They put up a Ki barrier during absorption
>Get absorbed, now in Buu's body
>Barrier fades, de-fusion occurs
NOTHING IMPLIES IT'S A TIME LIMIT, EVERYTHING ELSE IMPLIES IT'S BUU'S BODY
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>>149719808
I'm a Trunksfag too and I'm really enjoying the salt from the other anons.
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>>149719891
It was accepted for 20 years.
>>
>Reddit/2chan/4chan/youtube/fb
All calling it bullshit
>Tumblr
Only people who are cool with it.

Tumblr are true dbfags. you are all whiny ass bitches.
Cheers
>>
>A powerful force beyond any power
>That is willpower
>With speed surpassing even the walls of time
>A flame burning hotter than any flame
>The willpower of light
>A hot passion bearing dreams - it's here!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjllfs0QyEo
What did they mean by this?
>>
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>>149719867
>Based Beerus
Who apparently was weaker than Buu at the time.
To be fair, it was quite a long time ago.
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>>149719891
Buu was 10 times more slapstick than any recent DBZ arc, and how you guys try to downplay Buu's fart gas as something that doesn't make sense in an arc where the main villain's signature move is turning people into taffy is something much more amusing than all of GT and Super combined.
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>>149719902
At least he will have the enemy dead within his time limit
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>>149719891
No, that was clearly the explanation, don't be fucking retarded. Or you're saying a random kai knows better than the old kaioshin?
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>>149719891
DON'T REPLY TO THIS GUY. He refuses to acknowledge that this is a retcon by definition despite someone literally giving him the definition here:
>>149719652
>>149719762
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>>149719926
tumblr is full of spics

more so than dA
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>>149716303
yes.
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>>149719935
he probably used to rely on his HAKAI ability
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>>149719806
>Imperfect cell
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z_XZt1QuiE

I love it
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>>149719926
Tumblr likes fanfic so big wow
Congrats on your shit taste
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>>149719944
except this one is an actual Kai who's currently doing his Job (albeit horribly); Old Kai literally broke free from a sword.
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>>149716514
Lmao the ending
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>>149719926
back to tumblr you genderfluid faggot scumbag
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>>149716303
REMINDER

The original broadcast of GT is being released weekly. It looks and sounds significantly better than anything else available
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>>149719944
if anything Gowasu is more senile than the our guy the Old Kai
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>>149719926
>Tumblr, the same site that's more obsessed with shipping and SoL stuff. and a giant home to trunksfags, like this
of course you twit
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>>149719935
what?
Beerus is the strongest, and kid Buu is pure Rage
if it wasn't for the spheric energy he could have destroyed all the universe
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>>149716390
You know he has a crazy big erection from his adult years though, right
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>>149719973
but that's wrong you faggotcuck

Tumblr would be full of GTfags if that were true
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>>149719538
If that were the case then there was no way gohan and goku could use the potaro earrings.
But apparently power levels don't matter.

As a matter of fact the witch that fused with elder kai wasn't anything special just some random old woman with magic powers.
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>>149720016
why would anyone want to watch GT
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>>149719935
he might still be undergoing his early training phase from whis at that time for all we know
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>>149719926
Waaaa people dont share the same opinion as I do.
A fuerta you transgendic spics
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>>149716609
You know for a fact that Giant Zamasu is gonna be a Giant Boss Battle DLC
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>>149719933
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>>149719593
Or, y'know, the people who actually value logic and not being retarded.
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>>149719642
>>149719851
the majin energy unfusing them was the retcon. There was no reason to believe after what they said that they could be unfused by an outside force. Majin energy has nothing to do with Kai energy.

Don't get me wrong, I would totally accept the majin energy thing if they explained it as that. But as soon as it happened, that in itself was the retcon. Because it wasn't officially explained, that meant the reason for defusing was still technically up in the air. Thus, this explanation is nothing more than that. An explanation. Not a retcon, which as I already said, happened in the Buu saga.
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>>149719926
I'm happy i'm not a fucking faggot, who eats whatever shit Toei shits out, as long as its DB related.
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>>149718773
Shida's who animated this episode? Then I agree. It's nice and smooth but there's not much sense of physicality to it.
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>>149720016
Who cares?
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People are complaining too much. This was the best Super episode. Only thing that could be criticizable are Goku's overpowered kamehameha and Trunk's power up that was a bit too much.
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>>149719926
cancer has reached us from this far.
No wonder dragonball threads are full of cucks
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>>149716514
This is basically the response in my group of friends when we watched last night. Right down to the end.
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>>149717603
Because he's no longer a Kaio. By fusing with a mortal who's taken over the body of a powerful god, he's become a God of Destruction.

And you know what they said about how Gods of Destruction and Kaio are mutually connected, right?
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>>149720133
>Dragon Ball
>logic
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>>149719701
>>149719701
>>149719701
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>>149720141
Vegito unfusing is an asspull in general.
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NIGGER NIGGER FAGGOT NIGGER NIGGER

KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK

JOB JOB JOBBER JOBBITY JOB THE JOBMAN

NIGGER KEK NIGGER JOB NIGGER KEK KEK KEK

AM I FITTING IN YET /db/ GENERAL?
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>>149720141
>the thing that happened the first time was the retcon
"Water is wet" totally retcons what that guy at the store told me about dry soda.
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>>149720133
>Logic
>Someone else finishes up the main villain of the arc other than the titular character.

Sorry.
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>>149720156
Yeah, in part. Here's the full staff list: http://animatorscorner.com/animation_profile/60194#episode-9395
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>>149718079
Adult gotenks figuarts when?
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>>149720185
also this
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>>149719906
Not really, it was basically the spirit bomb and what goku did in every other DBZ movie where they needed him to beat a villian.

This is litterally him making a spirit bomb with a sword.
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>>149720190
No now go back to tumblr you spics
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>>149720141
You don't know what retcon means. Buu was an the most evil being of the universe, it was an unique case. Its evil energy somehow provocked the potora to not work anymore. That's it, it's enough, it's still a fucking fiction, you wanted some 10 pages long bullshit explanation maybe ?
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>>149720216
Summer 2017
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>>149720141
this was just added/discovered to existing info, retcon is when they take already existing explanation and throw it away just to make room for another, they took dbz and canned it
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This episode was shit.
Trunks is asspulling and zamasu has been saying the same lines instead of developing his character. An argument between gowasu and zamasu would have been good this episode. I'm sucker for that character development. Oh well all this left me feeling like shit.
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>>149720231
>yfw F. Gohan told him stories about Goku doing the spirit bombs.
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>>149718327
holy fuck what game is this
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>>149719707
SSJ4 is a trash concept though.
It's outright stating that it's the true form of the SSJ.
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>>149719223
thats the joke
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>>149720311
>>149720311
>>149720311

new thread here

GTfags are welcome
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>>149720317
well it does fumes out the proper saiyan vibes to goku than shitty blue so....
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>>149716974
>17 wasn't even stronger than SSJ2.
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>there won't be any complaints if Vegito won

Literally the only reason why everyone is crying. Gohanfags got served and they're just lashing out at the fact that Trunks was able to do something that their hero can't do: COMPLETE THE FUCKING JOB AND KILL THE ENEMY.

Vegitofags on the other hand were so pulled in by the hype; THEY FUCKING FORGOT IT'S CALLED THE FUTURE TRUNKS ARC FOR A REASON.


blame yourselves for being stupid idiots.
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>>149715787

What a great arc. Now i want to see more of super but maybe they will screw up if they stretch it.
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>>149720297
>yfw F.Gohan told Trunks of how Goku would have beaten the androids

And yet Trunks couldn't beat the fucking androids until he actually trained for it with people who knew how to fight and get more powerful.

It's a retarded retcon and simply being told how someone ran really really fast doesn't mean that YOU'LL be able to run really really fast.

Dude didn't even fucking TRAIN for it.
Goddamnit if he had AT LEAST went to the other world to learn it or learned something like it from his supreme kai I'd be able to handwaive it. But the only thing he actually got from that training mission was a SSJ2 upgrade, which he could have gotten anyway if he had kept training. Because..you know...HE ACTUALLY SAW THAT HAPPENING WITH HIS OWN EYES AND HAD SOME INKLING OF HOW IT WORKED AND HOW TO DO IT!!

This is a badly written asspull that doesn't even make any fucking sense by any stretch of the imagination.
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>>149720407
back to tumblr
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>>149720330
mods will get angry now

congratulations
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>>149720297
thats like explaining to dying african child how to drive, 20 years later he will know how to do it even when he didnt saw a car in his entire life
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>>149716303
Actually yes. Especially after this episode of Super was literally the last 2-3 episodes of GT but with worse animation and rushed.
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>>149720330
we already have another thread you fucking mong
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>>149717524
Gary Sturankusu
Or
Cucks
Or
Cunks
Or
Asspull
OR
Worst character in all of fiction
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>>149720483
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>>149720330
>>149720459
Are GTfags the true Gods of Destruction? If they make enough threads, DB threads altogether may be banned from /a/.
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>>149720282
That doesn't actually can anything.
This is putting a limit on a ridiculously broken thing that trivializes litterally every thing in DB period.

Even Toriyama knew he fucked up with his last second Pataro fusion retcon and he threw it out as quickly as he possibly could.
The whole "he's just toying with him so that he'll be absorbed and unfuse in his belly" plan makes FUCK ALL SENSE on any level.

Goku wouldn't have thought of that and Vegetta would be cold and dead in the ground before he let himself lose to him or do something that insane.
And Vegetto is both of them fused together with their iq and power levels combined.
SHIT JUST DONT ADD UP!!

The hour time limit is good.
Them making it so that it can be so easily diffused is shit though.

Maybe if one of the earrings is destroyed or Blackmassu knows a lot of shit and used some trick to unfuse them. Maybe that could have worked. I don't know.
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>>149717707
Better way to think about it is, "Gowasu knows more about the potara than Elder Kai"
Not all Gods are equal.
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>>149720282
if that's the case, then it's a retcon of a retcon.

I still need the source on when the majin energy thing was confirmed rather than just speculated on by the characters.

>>149720268
I know what retcon means, I'm saying this was an explanation of something that was never explained in the first place. It seems to me that a lot of people accept the majin energy theory, and I would accept it too but from what I know, it was never really confirmed. Plus, as far as I can tell, the majin energy thing is a retcon of the idea that potara fusions can't be defused at all. That's why I say that technically, the explanation for the defusing was up in the air.

I mean, it's still a bullshit move either way from the writers, Vegito defusing at all is an asspull.
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>>149716520
I miss Black so much.
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>>149720264
BUT THATS HOW YOU IMPOTENT RETARDS POST. YOU HAVE TO PUT THE WORD KEK IN EVERYTHING.


KEK KEK KEK NIGGER JOBBER KEK FAGGOT.

I MUST BE FITTING IN. THIS IS /db/ GENERAL AFTER ALL.
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>>149720770
no one on tumbrl talks like that, we are on 4chan we talk like on 4chan, if you dont like it you can go back to tumbrl
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>>149720770
Cuckgito
Cuckgeta
Cuckhan
Cuck
Cuckold
Cuckolding
Gohanfag
Gokufag
Trunksfag
Brolyfag
Kek kek kek
Jobetto
Jobgeta
Job
Jobber
Jobbing
Kek

There's your starter pack.
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>>149720865
You forgot the most important time

Kaiocuck Times Cuckold
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>>149720839
You seem to know tumblr pretty well, landwhale.
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>>149720895
Of course. How could I have forgotten?
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>>149720905
enough to not look like a total retard like you
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I don't understand why people are so pissed off by this episode.

>power levels

The power scaling didn't make sense for a while now. This is nothing new.

>retconning

Also nothing new. Remember how the regular Dragonballs were supposed to grant ANY wish? And wasn't Piccolo a demon king? Bulla even got retconned out of existence.

>MUH Vegito

This character was just fanservice when he was first introduced and this is still the case now. Only idiots love that non-character who only was around for a few panels and could literally be replaced by any other smug "I'm stronger than you" character in the universe because we barely know anything about him. Even Gotenks got more character development.
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>>149719725
>Fucking SSJ2 Trunks
He hasn't been a SSJ2 for a while. We don't even have a name for his form yet, but we also didn't have a name for SSJ2 until Goku faced fat Buu.
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>>149720945
>he visits tumblr
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>>149721040
(You) don't understand because (you) don't want to. Just enjoy the episode if you liked it.
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>>149721040
>Bulla even got retconned out of existence.
she'll be back.
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>>149717524
Link + Mastersword?
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>>149721181
let it go
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>>149717597
Because injured Goku put up a better fight than fully healed fresh Vegito.
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>>149721051
He doesn't get a super special SSJ form that can't be placed on the fucking tears depending on fucking plot goddamnit.

Him getting a SSJ2 form that is for some reason SUPERIOR to SSJ3 and fucking GOD and FUCKING VEGITO is on every fucking level motherfucking retarded.

There is no way to handwaive this or to even allow this.

100% bullet proof powerlevels and internal consitency and "ME AM GOOD ME BEAT YOU WITH THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP AND BONDS" is faggot bullshit that has no place in Dragonball.
Never did.
This was never at any motherfucking point what drove db or any fucking db stories or plots.
Hell Vegetta's entire goddamned thing was him popping off and losing too his emotions,
The entire thing in DB is emotion means fuck all and only hard work and getting shit done does.
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Original Bulma: Greedy pervert

Current Bulma: Bland housewife

Original ChiChi: Violent yandere

Current ChiChi: Nagging housewife

Original Videl: Tomboyish tsundere

Current Video: Bland housewife

Too bad that females in DB get way less interesting once they get married.
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>>149721275
He isn't stronger than Vegetto. Trunks' SSJ2 matching SSJ3 is manga-only.
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>>149721064
Where the fuck can I find DB in this good quality with these perfectly preserved colors?
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>>149721290
Bland? He tried to whore herself out for the sake of her son.

Current Bulma is some sort of high class prostitute.
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>>149721231
they said in an interview they want to match up with the final chapter, that means they have the EoZ ending in mind.
Bra will be born soon if Toyotaro or anyone from Dragon Ball Room has anything to say about it.
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So can we all agree that Gogeta should've been used instead? If they were gonna put a time limit on the potara anyway, why not just use Gogeta?

That way they don't have to retcon shit. It's not like Blackmasu was UBER powerful anyway. Goku was doing an impressive job standing up to him.
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>>149716327
what in the fuck.
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>>149721366
they would have to make a tenkaichi tournament, we will see about that
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>>149721430
>>149721366
tournament + uub and his training
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>>149721409
Vegito sells better than Gogeta.
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>>149721491
not after this episode
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>>149721409
I'm in agreement. They could have just said Goku and Vegeta practiced it during their 3 year training in case of emergencies or something.

It should have definitely been Gogeta. Perhaps they felt like choosing Vegetto because they already used Gogeta for the same purpose in GT.
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>>149721535
they thought they could hide gt rehash by switching fusions? no, i dont think they are that retarded
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>>149721290
Original Vegeta - Brutal space farring warrior prince who wished on becoming immortal and ruling the universe.

Current Vegeta - Bulmas house husband/guard dog and trophy breeding stud.

Original Goku - Bad ass world traveling take no shit adventurer who fought and killed assholes on the reg and would wipe out an entire army if he knew they were assholes.

Current Goku - Clinically retarded farmer and beaten down hubby who barely sees his own family as family. Is actually kept on a short leash by his wife who looks down on him because he's a semi retarded Chad Thundercock who's only good at fucking and fighting.

Original Gohan - Nice but oft unhappy and good hearted kid who is fated to be the most powerful and noble being in the universe.

Current Gohan - Caricature of a Japanese Salary man. The living embodiment of everything the Japanese youth fear and dread on a deep instinctual level.

Not a single solitary male in DB has been made better by getting married and if the guys hadn't married them they would not be a part of the plot period.
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>>149721615
original trunks: gentleman
current trunks: cuck
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>>149721318
Who won the fucking fight with Zamasu?
Who did more damage to Zamasu?

Exactly.
This ep stated that Trunks is a more powerful warrior then Vegetto Blue.
And the anime and manga are outright stating that SSJ2 or what the fuck ever kind of SSJ2 trunks is using is somehow superior or equal to SSJB.
That does not fucking work.
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>>149721590
>People that see Gogeta remember GT and think he'll end up defusing again, not as many people tune in.
>See Vegetto, who up until now was supposed to be a permanent fusion, a bunch of people tune in

There /is/ a difference.

>i dont think they are that retarded

You give them too much credit.
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The Dragon Ball series was never good
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>>149721688
You're mad for the sake of being mad. Vegetto beat the SHIT out of Zamasu. Enough to where Trunks could swoop in or get the kill. Trunks new form being on par with Blue is definite bullshit, though. It'll never get explained, either. But Trunks is NOT stronger than Vegetto or Zamasu on his own.
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>>149721275
>Him getting a SSJ2 form

Haven't seen any lightning. This is something else.
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>>149721366
Doesn't say anything about Bra.
Doesn't even hint at her being born.

Gohan's son will be born before she is.
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>>149721491
Nah, Gogeta has always been more popular then Vegito.
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Whose to say Vegito won't come back?
Also any good Dragonball figures?

Not just any of the girls of the series
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>>149721870
Check out the Figuarts line. They're the best figures available and are affordable.
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>>149715872
If every fight on this show would look like this I would totally give it a try. A shame 80% of them look like absolute shit.
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>>149721615
>if the guys hadn't married them they would not be a part of the plot period.

That's true for Videl and arguably Chichi, but not Bulma. She was there for fanservice and comic relief.
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>>149721870
>Whose to say Vegito won't come back?

For what purpose should he come back? The SSB fusion lasts less than 5 fucking minutes. There's no way they will try that again for a 5 min buff unless they somehow train it but I don't see Vegeta training a fusion with Goku.
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>>149716303
At least they tied making something different for transformations like with SSJ3 instead of le change of hair color bullshit
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>>149719271
No it isn't a fuckup at all, it's a powerful character device that could've actually countered Zamasu's immortality. Vegito would wear him down but can't kill him because he's immortal,

Trunks would create a Ki Sword like he did and use Mafuuba on a weakened Zamasu and seal him inside the sword, similar to the Elder Kai who was sealed inside the Z sword.

It would make perfect sense and be a much better closure because:
> A). Having a Kai sealed in a sword was already an esbalished possibility and so doesn't seem like an asspull
> B). Vegito isn't treated like a hype-bait that is thrown out when plot convenienced it and is actually able to contribute with his justifiably immense power.
> C). Trunks is still able to be the hero that saves the arc by using the seal and ending the fight.
> D). Sealing Zamasu inside the sword could've been an awesome throwback to the Wrath of The Dragon film with Hirudegarn being similar to Zamasu, and Tapion's sword, basically closing the circle around Trunks swords within his own timeline.

This episode was just written by retards. There was no need to break the Vegito fusion, Dragon Balls can do it later.
There was no need to asspull Trunks again, it just further cements how pointless all the transformations are and power increases, which loses alot of the attraction in Dragon Ball fights.
There was especially no need to pull an Android 13 and use Spirit Bomb absorbtion which doesn't even make any sense since the Earth is dying and defeating Kid Buu required the entire universe.
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>>149722075
that would be perfect ending, and we would get vegetto to interact with all other characters
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>>149719382
Your SS3 headcanon is cute, faganon.
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>>149716303

>Magic clothes when transforming
>Red and pink hair because of reasons
>"LOL I CAN TRANSFORM IN SSJ4 THANKS TO A MACHINE"
>Gohan transforming into SSJ
>make Goku a kid because he's so powerfull the whole series won't have any sense.


Ugh.
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>>149721745
You're such a fucking idiot. Literally everything you spouted is nothing but delusional headcanon.
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>>149721959
Kaio Ken came back. Why not Vegito?
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>>149722208
Holy fuck, did Trunks fuck your bitch or something? You can't even understand Vegetto beating Zamasu to the point where he couldn't recover. Zamasu was basically on the brink of death by the time Trunks swooped in. Cry more.
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>>149722193

Read the manga.
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>>149722240
im pretty sure i saw him somewhere in this episode but im not sure
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>>149721926
I might have to keep looking. Figuarts look too much like toys to me.
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>>149722183
I know man. I established this theory many weeks ago and I believe alot of other anons too because, lo and behold:

IT JUST WERKS.

But leave it up to nip retards to go completely bonkers for no good reason. This arc has been pretty good so far but my god have they handled it horribly.

It only really survived on the really cool concepts the established, because the execution was no less than dreadful.

Here's to hoping the manga handles it better, it's the last beacon of hope for this abortion of a series.

I'm gonna miss better-Turles.
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>>149721745
At no point has it been shown Zamasu was getting WEAKER in that fight.
He was only changing shape.

I and I bet many others were HOPING we'd see some last minute super evil form of Blackmasu with his insane religious fervor.

NOPE some barely thought out bullshit about it reflecing his emotions and the power of friendship sword.
Even then, this outright fucking STATES that he's fucking strong then Vegetto blue.
That's just fucking retarded.

And you're goddamned right it being on par with blue is bullshit.
If they wanted that motherfucker to have blue level powers then they should have dumped those garbage motherfucking WHO IS BLACK eps and gone with a fucking training arc.
It would have been cheaper(since that's what they've been worrying about)the fans would have loved it and we wouldn't have to have been subjected to Goku and Vegetas TOTALLY Excellent Adventures for the last ten+ fucking eps.

>>149721785
There are literaly only 4 SSJ tiers.

SSJ1
SSJ2
SSJ3 which can only be achieved by goku or the fusion gotenks and is basically SHIT IS BAD SOMETHING NEEDS TO DIE RIGHT FUCKING NOW last ditch super form
SSJ Blue which can only be achieved by being part of the ritual to make SSJ God.

Everything else is a derivative of that.
Trunks is some specialized version of SSJ2 and it makes NO FUCKING SENSE for any form of SSJ2 to be equal to blue unless his natural base form is like absurdly fucking powerful.

This is HEART OF THE CARDS tier magical bullshit powerups. And the story itself outright states that this is friendship punch levels of trite silliness.

This isn't DBZ. This is a Dragon Ball flavored show for 4 year olds.
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>>149719693
He kinda wasn't
They had trump cards galore the entire time but weren't using them until they had to
mafuba, fusion, zeno button
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>>149722371
They look better in person, but they're action figures.
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>>149718610
>kamehameha was never treated as something special
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>>149722240
Because one's a technique Goku wanted to use in a long time but couldn't because it would kill him, and the other is a way too powerful fusion mechanic the is a last ditch effort which requires convincing a prideful asshole to co-operate and a potara to be readily available like a senzu bean.

Vegito destroys the progression.

He'd probably even match up to Beerus BEFORE Super Saiyan Blue.
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>>149722287
>HEADCANON

Nothing you said was proven or even hinted at in the episode. Zamasu was taking Vegetto's attacks no problem and nowhere was it indicated that he was weakened or out of stamina. You're just spewing fanon garbage to justify this shit writing.
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>>149721946
Arguably Chichi?
Chichi was only existed as part of the plot for a few issues/eps till the first battle between adult goku and junior when she came back.
She would have never been part of the plot.

And Bulma couldn't play the sexy piece of ass well into her 30's. She didn't inherit those age defying eternal sexy as fuck milf magic powers from her mother.
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>>149721290
Bulma always: True savior of the world/universe
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>>149718610
it is gokus the strongest energy attack you retard
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>>149722500
I'm not trying to justify it. It's actual garbage and I know that. But Vegetto's fight with Zamasu was what made his defeat possible. Without it, Trunks would have had to face Zamasu on his own, and he wouldn't have had an angry, emotional, and GIANT target to deal with.

>Even then, this outright fucking STATES that he's fucking strong then Vegetto blue.

Do me a favor. Get me the timestamp or an image stating that Trunks was stronger than Vegetto Blue.

That's a dubious point, but I agree with the rest. Having said that, I think you need to relax a bit. Everyone is shitposting and they don't deserve the (you)s.
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Just after Zamasu is done with his stupid fucking speech about how blah blah the universe is great but ningen are a pest on it, the planet starts pumping energy into Trunks and basically saying ''bitch i LIKE ningen,get the fuck off me and don't come back''.

It was a rejection of Zamasu's spiel. The universe was perfectly fine with mortals,he was the one who was wrong.

He's never even created anything,he didn't even belong in this universe. He's an outsider roleplaying as God, and next episode real God is about to show up and call him retarded for it.
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>>149722193

Also he explained to the kids and piccolo that he could archieve that form because "time" doesn't exist on the afterlife.
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>>149716514
What I want to know is why they came up with the bullshit 1 hour rule. It destroys the feeling that there's any sort of drawback or excitement.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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