Will KyoAni ever recover from Koe no Flopachi?

>>147382779
call knk flop just because came in second is like calling snk flop just because it doesnt overcome op in sales.

It wasn't a flop.
But honestly, Kimi no na wa is one in a lifetime success for Makoto.
From what I have heard, he had actually made an enjoyable movie with tight pacing.
1 1 Your Name (Kimi no na wa.) Toho $11,054,736 -1.1% n/a - n/a $61,241,130 3
2 N Suicide Squad WB $3,800,457 - 581 - $6,541 $3,800,457 1
3 N 4 gatsu wa kimi no uso (Your Lie in April) Toho $2,382,883 - 294 - $8,105 $2,382,883 1
4 2 Shin Godzilla Toho $2,122,568 -30.4% n/a - n/a $63,968,622 7
5 N Samurai Hustle Returns! Shochiku $2,026,303 - 282 - $7,185 $2,026,303 1
6 N Gods of Egypt GAGA $1,593,291 - 630 - $2,529 $1,593,291 1
7 3 The Secret Life of Pets UPI $1,085,157 -43.4% 352 -3 $3,083 $38,285,233 5
8 5 Black Widow Business (Gosaigyô no Onna) Toho $840,759 -47.8% n/a - n/a $10,504,345 3
9 6 Yell for the Blue Sky Toho $650,038 -41.1% n/a - n/a $10,017,253 4
10 4 Now You See Me 2 Kadokawa $501,301 -73.4% 245 -1 $2,046 $3,503,291 2
11 10 Finding Dory Disney $389,263 -45.9% n/a - n/a $65,014,779 9
12 7 Ghostbusters (2016) Sony $351,457 -60.8% 366 -249 $960 $11,283,100 4
13 8 The Jungle Book (2016) Disney $342,152 -58.6% n/a - n/a $22,196,762 5
14 11 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows PPI $180,649 -69.6% 329 -208 $549 $3,852,671 3
15 13 War Room Sony $696 -62.5% 1 -1 $696 $317,641 10
16 12 Alice Through the Looking Glass Disney $656 -89.7% n/a - n/a $26,786,534 11
17 14 The Shallows Sony $272 -48.5% 1 - $272 $1,572,328 8

Come on, KyoAni-Shaft-shitpost circlejerk. At least wait until it's Fall season.

Weekend Estimates (09/17-18)
01 (01) ¥1,075,000,000 ($10.5 million), -05%, ¥8,400,000,000 ($81.8 million), Your Name. (Toho) WK4
02 (---) ¥250,000,000 ($2.4 million), 0, ¥250,000,000 ($2.4 million), A Silent Voice (Shochiku) NEW
03 (02) ¥231,000,000 ($2.3 million), -41%, ¥925,000,000 ($9.0 million), Suicide Squad (Warner Bros.) WK2
04 (---) ¥210,000,000 ($2.0 million), 0, ¥210,000,000 ($2.0 million), Rage (Toho) NEW
05 (04) ¥194,000,000 ($1.9 million), -11%, ¥6,950,000,000 ($67.3 million), Shin Godzilla (Toho) WK8
06 (03) ¥173,000,000 ($1.7 million), -29%, ¥575,000,000 ($5.6 million), Your Lie in April (Toho) WK2
07 (05) ¥141,000,000 ($1.4 million), -32%, ¥550,000,000 ($5.3 million), Samurai Hustle Returns! (Shochiku) WK2
08 (---) ¥110,000,000 ($1.0 million), 0, ¥110,000,000 ($1.0 million), The BFG (Disney) NEW
09 (07) ¥73,000,000 ($715,000), -34%, ¥3,975,000,000 ($38.8 million), The Secret Life of Pets (Toho-Towa) WK6
10 (06) ¥62,000,000 ($605,000), -48%, ¥350,000,000 ($3.4 million), Gods of Egypt (Gaga) WK2

It sold more than GuP in its first weekend.

>>147382779
>flop
>Outsell Shaft's Kizu pt1 and 2 whole opening weeks in a single weekend.
This is silly. 280Mil on the opening weekend is not a flop by any metric.

>not Shippai no Katachi
You trolls aren't even trying.

>>147383414
Well, the fact is that it scores 2 place wasn't made up.

>>147383131
>9 6 Yell for the Blue Sky Toho $650,038 -41.1% n/a - n/a $10,017,253 4
I just hope this means we'll get an anime adaptation too.

>>147383284
Kyoani found a way

>>147383131
Shinkai really made it.

>>147383131
>Kimi no na wa is going to beat Shin Godzilla
What the actual fuck?

>>147383823
It will not even be close, Kimi no na wa will be in the top 10 of highest-grossing movies in Japan soon.

>>147383763
wasn't he already proclaimed as the next miyazaki?

>>147384103
>next Miyazaki
That's Hosoda and before him Kendou. No one else was touted as such by the Jap media.

>>147384103
Not yet. He is only big in Japan. But even in his homeland, most of his movies has a mediocre box office.
He always had a potential to be big worldwide but never actually made it.
Even though movies like 5cm/s, Garden of Words, etc. were kinda popular, they never reached the level of recognition a Miyazaki's movie has.
Kimi no na wa might be a game changer if it catches fire on the West.

>>147384087
>myanimelist
Report yourself newfag

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Mayby they should've put the moms in promotion materials more.

>>147382779
>Flopachi
kek

>>147383969
Biggest 4th Weekends

1/ ¥1.075 billion (-05%), ¥8.42 billion - Kimi no Na wa (2016)
2/ ¥972.2 million, (-19%), ¥8.43 billion - Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001)
3/ ¥953.2 million, (-06%), ¥8.45 billion - Howl's Moving Castle (2004)
4/ ¥940.0 million, (+06%), ¥10.75 billion - Spirited Away (2001)
5/ ¥922.9 million, (-21%), ¥8.13 billion - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002)
6/ ¥850.9 million, (-04%), ¥7.71 billion - Frozen (2014)
7/ ¥765.7 million, (+07%), ¥7.20 billion - Bayside Shakedown: Save the Rainbow Bridge! (2003)
8/ ¥755.2 million, (-03%), ¥7.21 billion - Ponyo (2008)
9/ ¥733.5 million, (-27%), ¥7.11 billion - Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004)
10/ ¥683.5 million, (-27%), ¥7.45 billion - Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (2007)

Good but not great opening
6th best 2nd week of all time
3rd best 3rd week of all time
Best 4th week of all time

Kimo no Na wa is already going to flop so who cares

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KyoAnifags used to laugh at Nagai and Okada.
They can't laugh now.

>>147384447
I think it just slowly catches interest.
At this rate it's gonna stay on top for the next few weeks.
>>147384540
>I can't read

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I want to say that these threads are redundant. But the Kyoani fanbase had it coming, i guess.

>>147384578
The anthem of heart wnd opening: ¥120,000,000
A Silent Voice wnd opening ¥280,000,000

>>147384417
>31 years of age
She seems young to be directing anime, but I don't really have any idea what the industry is like.

>>147383284
>movie make more than 2 million on it's first week.
>Litterally more successful than a live action movie and a blockbuster.
>shitposters still calling it a failure.
I know they don't follow logic but man, repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
Im really eager to see Kimi no Na wa and KnK now though. Unfortunately I don't think they'll get screened much outside of Japan.

>>147385392
Gotta wait for that Bluray anon.

>>147385286
She's one of the few exceptions.
I guess KyoAni's environment make it easy for a potential talented staff to get noticed.

Women in the anime industry seem to get promoted faster than men though.
Rie Matsumoto is around the same age as Yamada.
Sayo Yamamoto got her directorial debut when she was 30.
A lot of female animation supervisors are still in their 20s.

>>147385286
She's was the youngest director to have a 10k+ anime. She's the youngest director for a late night 1Bil+ anime movie. She's the best rising star in Japan. Even the Jap movie reviewers are circlejerking her hard right now.
>>147384578
You know that this can realistically beat out AnoHana in viewership even without a single box office sale right? And this movie is outpacing everything late night except those over Keion in the standing.

Yamada > Yamakan

>>147385745
>Yamakan

The inappriopriate touching guy?

>>147385745
Looking back, Yamada has a pretty smooth career.
Most people are stuck with being key animators.
https://myanimelist.net/people/7498/Naoko_Yamada

>>147385745
It's mean to compare Yamakan to someone with actual skill and talent and doesn't have a big mouth.

>>147385745
Both can't do shit without Kyoani so...

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>>147384309

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>>147389698

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>>147389913

Does anyone have the

>ueno has come too

screencap?

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>>147382779

raws when

Isn't it doing better than most recent anime movies? Not including Kimi no na wa of course.

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>>147390895

>>147391229
It has done better than anything not named Keion, Love Live, Eva or Madoka.

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Fixed

Why would people care about if something was a flop or not? How would that fact affect you?

>>147391105
p-please respond

>>147391741
It's some good shitposting fuel to say a studio did something wrong, going bankrupt, losing fanbase etc etc

>>147382779
Free Movie, Phantom Sales, now this. Why is Kyoani on a flopping streak and can they ever recover?

>>147391741
Are you retarded? The success of something affects the future of whoever made it, so if you like a studio and they make a flop, obviously you wouldn't be happy.

>>147391229
Weekend opening for 2016
¥1.209 billion ($11.1 million) / 933,781 [348] - Detective Conan: The Darkest Nightmare (Toho)
¥1.155 billion ($10.9 million) / 820,830 [739] - One Piece Film Gold (Toei)
¥1.058 billion ($8.7 million) / 974,557 [434] - Yo-Kai Watch: Great King Enma and the 5 Stories, Nyan! (Toho)
¥637.0 million ($5.6 million) / 544,816 [374] - Doraemon: Nobita and the Birth of Japan (Toho)
¥467.4 million ($4.6 million) / 370,046 [363] - The Secret Life of Pets (Toho-Towa)
¥445.8 million ($4.0 million) / 329,513 [471] - Zootopia (Disney)
¥323.9 million ($3.1 million) / 289,971 [366] - Pokemon XY&Z:

>>147391727
Meant to post it here. Will there be yuribait between the two cakes?

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>>147392051
I hope so.

>>147391890
Free Movie got unexpected sales but not Phantom, it failed as expected, still KnK is not a flop not matter how much you post about it.

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>>147392051
>two sexually repressed milfs getting drunk together

>>147391934
Unless you're on a Gonzo leve of track record there is no realistic chance that a flop is going to affect a studio.

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KyoAni should animate this as the BD's bonus.

>>147385392
If it's successful, does that mean we'll be getting more doujins of it? Cause I need some Ueno hate-fucking to ease my hate-boner here.

>>147392726
No. Otaku hate KyoAni and they're the ones who make the doujins. That's why you don't usually see stuff for KyoAni shows.

>>147392879
>Otaku hate KyoAni
>They attend in spectacular numbers to a KyoAni movie opening
Makes you think.

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Glad I didn't read the manga. Most of the complains seem to be related to cut content.

>>147382779
how was it a flop

>>147393053
Those are the normalfag who watches anime type. Die hard otaku, the akihabara who records all shows type and posts on 2ch hate KyoAni.

>>147393115
It didn't get 500 mil on the opening weekend. Major flop. How will KyoAni recover?

>>147393184
By restructuring their business into tomato farmers

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>>147392879
>That's why you don't usually see stuff for KyoAni shows.
are you for real?

>>147391954
Do you have the numbers for Love Live movie, Evangelion 3.0 and Girl und Panzer?

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>>147393225
>not Mochi sellers

Where the camrip at doe??

>>147393326
¥400.2 million ($3.3 million) Love Live! The School Idol Movie
¥1.133 billion ($14.1 million) Evangelion 3.0
¥128.4 million ($1.1 million) Girls und Panzer: The Movie

When are the official numbers getting released?

>>147393717
Are these for a 3 day weekend or 2?

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>>147384277
The issue is that Shinkai was a brand new filmmaker, and from the start, he's been getting noticeably better and better with every installment in almost every sense, even with stuff like cinematography, scenic views, and his original core 'strengths'. He experimented with a heavier plot starting with Hoshi o Ou Kodomo, and clearly learned a great deal from the experience with the following two movies.

I really wouldn't be surprised if he became the new Miyazaki after his true 'breakout' film, Kimi no Na Wa. He deserves it too.

>>147393803
2

>声之形.480p.DVDSCR.mp4
Happening!

>>147385580
Probably because there's a lot more younger women in the industry compared to a quarter century ago.

Woman directors are still relatively rare, though.

>>147393992
Where?

KnK confirmed for Anime movie of the Year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iavpOLXCkkY

>>147395863
KnK confirmed for worst OST of the year as well.

>>147396333
What the heck? How? It's beautiful.

>>147392879
>dont usually see kyoani doujin

Are... are you fucking retarded?

>>147398441
>Hibike
>Nichijou
>Hyouka
>Chuu2
>KnK
Neo-KyoAni shows barely have any doujins and fanart for that matter, only Free has a good amount of material, and Sento from AmaBuri.

>>147398570
Yeah Amagi Brilliant Park has a severe lacking

>>147384447
is that inflation-adjusted?

>>147398570
You know what? I have problems trying to fap to any KyoAni girl.
I mean, some of them are hot. Other's are plainly beautiful, but for some reason I cannot fap to them, it's like I feel like they're too pure.

I think the only two KyoAni girls I use to fap from time to time are Mitsuki from their other KnK and Muse. Weird thing I never finished watching any of those since they bored me to death.

>>147399339
you'd probably have to ask the autist who assembles the numbers

http://www.worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=55322&sid=111ab4ff38af55f6e1499a4ca8073aac&start=7825

>>147400317
How exactly did Kimi no na Wa manage to be so successful? The movie is entertaining and all but this is ridiculous.

>>147400589
Abe's propaganda to make Japs' reproduction rate rise.

Koe no Floptachi sounds catchy

>>147382779
Will /a/ ever recover from cancerous shitposting?

>>147402037
Sadly no. Shaft and Kyoani fags continue to bait each other not realizing it hurts them in the long run.

>>147403020
it's not my fault Shaft fans think their studio makes good anime

すこし、涼しくなってきた気がしますパピコです。

この夏、勇気を出してがんばりたいことのひとつが歯医者さんに通うこと。なのです。
なんか。なんだか足が遠のいちゃうのですよ。。。
痛くないようにしてくださるのはわかっていながらも。。。
おやしらず。抜きたい。
なので、こころを強く持って歯医者さんにでんわ！してみます！！

そんな夏。
もうおわっちゃう。
今年中に勇気をだしてがんばりたいこと。に変更してしまいそうなパピコでした。

>>147382779
Didn't Koe get like less than half the theaters Kimi no na Wa did?

>>147383284
GuP only opened in 77 theaters. And it wont make 2.3 billion and still be in theaters for a year. Or sell over 220K discs. Well 250 mil opening weekend is more than was expected.

>>147403861
No one expected GuP to make 2.3 billion either.

did kyoani find a way?

Why are you KyoAnusfags getting back up?

They should stay down. It's just embarrassing. Your shitty movie is not even trending on twitter. No word of mouth will save you from this.

>>147408157
>not even trending on twitter
The state of current /a/, everybody.

>>147408534
Who cares? I was looking for a (You) and you gave it to me. I accomplished my goal. In order to get (You)s we KyoAnihaters are going to do whatever it takes to make you feel bad, even if in the process we look like retards.
We actually aren't retarded, take note.

>>147408739
>merely pretending
here, take another (you)

>>147403553
1/3

>>147403553
>>147408877
Yes, KnK is much less mainstream.

>>147406619
Yes they found a way to fuck up their adaptation as usual

is the ending less shitty? does anyone know?

>>147411768
Haven't read the manga but someone yesterday said that it ends during the school festival

>>147411662
People that's complaining about stuff being cut should be burn to dead.
To begin with, the manga isn't THAT good. But everybody seems to forget that. From chapters 25 all the way to chap. 48 or so, the manga was completely garbage tier. If KyoAni actually managed to trim out all that trash then the movie might have a chance to be something great.

Wait a second I thought this was going to be a series not a movie?

Am I really that retarded?

>>147412578
>Am I really that retarded?
Apparently so, it was announced to be a movie on day one.

>>147412611
I never actually read one of the threads. I figured with Hibiki being their next work it wouldn't be our for a while so I could wait and avoid the inevitable shitposting that Kyoani draws.

I feel stupid.

>>147412772
Now that it's out and we've got trailers and the soundtrack and stuff the shitposting's better than ever. You're right on time, anon.

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>>147412299
>not ending it with pic related
Eh, whatever, the school festival is fine too.

Monday morning
*1　*88016　Kimi no Na wa
*3　*18161　Koe no Katachi
*2　*15550　Your Lie in April
*4　*13027　Samurai Hustle Returns
*5　 12383　Rage


It is a public holiday in Japan so it can be compared with the Sundays figures

Sunday morning
1　*76305　Kimi no Na wa
2　*18339　Koe no Katachi
3　*13474　Rage
4　*13155　Samurai Hustle Returns
5　*13073　Your Lie in April

KnK is steady; Kimi no Na wa increases of 15%

280m during its first 2 day weekend. That's not bad at all. If next week doesn't have a big falloff it might reach around 1 billion during its lifetime.

>>147400589

I mean some of it is this >>147393920

But yeah, there must be something else in the collective consciousness of Moonland that has really grabbed their attention in Kimi no Na Wa

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KnK is doing alright. I'm actually more worried about this.

>>147413068
Festival is a better ending
absolutely perfect if Shouko and him hold hands THEN

>>147413847
I hope it's good. Mai Mai Miracle was a disappointment and a half.

>>147403179
Six years kyoanus hasn't shat out anything even close to madoka.

>>147414843
Madoka is not good and Kyoani has churned out more masterworks in the last five years than Shaft has in 40.

>>147414843
I'm glad you like madoka that much because it's the only half decent series you'll ever get from Shaft.

>>147414843
Yeah, they haven't done anything nearly as bad.

>>147414974
Oh, you're right, how silly of me. How can madoka compete with the likes of chuuni s2, amagi, high speed, or kyoanus' crowning achievement, phantom world?

>>147415290
Those are actually the only Kyoani series it CAN compete with.

>>147414843
Madoka only sold that much because of the Cult of Urobuchi. I'm not falling to the "refreshing" argument. If something is decent, it should be called so not because it's different from what has been done in excess in the past.

@147415290
Ooh, cherrypicking. Classic.

>>147415369
Only vnfags and fatefags knew urobuchi right off the bat before madoka. And if anyone but shaft had done it, it wouldn't have been nearly as big a hit. Witness yuki yuna.

>>147415670
And yet yyy btfo madoka from every possible plot point, and without jewniplex shilling.

>>147414843
Shaft is so good that the only shows people praise from them came out 5 and 7 years ago.

>>147416089
Did 88k people really watch the shitty quality rip?

>>147383131
>1 1 Your Name (Kimi no na wa.) Toho $11,054,736 -1.1% n/a - n/a $61,241,130 3
How the fuck is it selling so well?

>>147416496
It moved the toho-controlled theater owners (spoiler)to a bigger house (/spoiler).

>>147416860
>(spoiler)
lurk for 2 years before posting

>>147416496
Butthurt shaftshitters seeing the movie multiple times in one day to prop it up agaisnt koe. They're that desperate.

>>147416860
It's <spoiler></spoiler>
You can even add styling.
<spoiler style="background: #FFF; font-size:1.75em"></spoiler>
That'll make the spoiler appears with a white background and a font size a little bit bigger than the normal one

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>Implying they didn't found a way

>>147398570
>>147392879
Hyouka and Chuu2 had a lot of ero doujinshi, there aren't a lot of Euphonium and Phantom World though but the lack of it isn't anything special when compared to other series.

It has more to do with what's popular during the current season than any hate toward KyoAni. For example, Euphonium came out at the same time as Danmachi, where the main girl got insanely popular while Phantom World was aired at the same time as Dagashi Kashi and Konosuba.
Recent KyoAni shows just get less doujins overall because with the exception of Free and Chuu2 (wich both has a lot of doujins), their genre aren't really otakuish enough. Euphonium is an obvious one, while their Phantom World was from the current wave of action shonen in that it didn't focus at all on romance and harem elements, Phantom also wasn't really popular wich didn't help.

>>147417339
Three out of those girls only found ways to fail.

>>147417588

3 of those didn't fail at all

>>147416345
What are ppd, szs, and hidamari, Alex?

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>>147417339
>tfw Shouko is part of Kyoani girls now

>>147417588
Only Mirai is a failure.
Rikka is a retard, but still she succeeded.
Tamako, she's kinda clumsy but her movie is masterpiece.
Kumiko. Kumiko is Kumiko. You won't find a better FMc than her since the 00's.

>>147416060
Hahahahano.

Pacing sucked (you can't half a cour of umi da into a 12 ep non-sol), the characters were much worse defined than madoka, and let's not get started on that bullshit ending that removed any consequences.

>>147417824
even older

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>>147417837

It was hard to top manga Shouko, but they did a good job

>>147417824
Reminders of how laughably bad and cheap shaft used to be.

>>147418284
Szs is funnier and seems like it was more fun than any of kyoanus' output since lucky star.


I miss old shaft and old kyoani.

>>147418521
I miss old shaft too, but current Kyoani is pretty great.

>>147418521
-seems more fun
-seems like it was more fun to work on

>>147418521
I'm stupidly hopeful with 3gatsu
Zaregoto looks like a steaming pile of shit

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Kyoani and Comixwave found a way. The numbers don't lie.

>>147391785
>It's some good shitposting fuel to say a studio did something wrong, going bankrupt, losing fanbase etc etc
Except in this case it isn't a flop at all, so are people shitposting over fantasies? Are they high?

>>147421352
People are shitposting over low-hanging fruit bait, saying that a movie opening in the number 2 spot is a """"""""""""""""""flop"""""""""""""""""".

>>147392573
why is she laughing

>>147417848
>Kumiko. Kumiko is Kumiko. You won't find a better FMc than her since the 00's.
Do people really believe this?

So exactly why is /v/ so mad at this movie/kyoani now?

>>147418556
not with shit like phantom world and chuu2 rei around.

>>147421809
It's the same anon every thread

Really embarrassing

>>147421669
She's a very good character

So it's Kimi no wa really that good? I wasn't even planning to watch it.

Numbers for today as of 4 pm in Japan

*1　199721　君の名は。
*2　*50443　四月は君の嘘
*3　*45514　映画 聲の形

KnK currently third, how is it compared to yesterday's 4pm stats?

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>>147422297
It's no. 1.

>>147422297
Overrated garbage like Gintama.

>>147422749
What's the You Lie in April movie about? is it just the same as the anime?

>>147422749
I don't have hard numbers, but I remember them being around that much. I didn't realize people watched movies on Monday though. Also, it was a surprise seeing Shigatsu climbing to 2nd.

>>147423217
It's a holiday today in japan

>>147422749
　*1　207527　君の名は。
　*2　*47218　四月は君の嘘
　*3　*46874　映画 聲の形

>>147423217
It's a holiday today.

>>147423243
>>147423243
>Respect for the Aged Day

Ah, thanks

>>147421902
I sincerely hope Phantom is the bottom of the curve, and we're only going to go back up from here. Hibike2 please deliver.

>>147423333
Phantom was fun though

>>147423301
>>147421902
They were both directed by Ishihara, coincidence? I'm not including Eupho because Yamada co-directed.

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>>147423368
>fun
Phantom was goddamn boring, even Chuu2ren is much funnier than it.

>>147418284
Yuno is /a/'s wife.

>>147423217
Out of sympathy for taneda?

How was the OST? Can any /mu/tants chime in?

>>147423534
Very experimental. Honesty I'm a pleb when it comes to fancy music and though it was garbage. I guess they were trying to go with muffled deaf sounds or something.

>>147423217
It's cause 4gatsu is in twice as many theaters

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>>147408739
Amazing.
Such cunning intellect
wow.

>>147423595
Fuck off.

Did they keep the scene where Nishimom beats up Ueno? That's all I care about

>>147417339
>The fuck you nichijou s2 never squad

>>147423754
Calm down

>>147423534
Very ambient, it isn't exactly something you sit down and listen to, but I'm sure it suits the movie just fine. see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAa4qV4PPhY

Just download the OST and enjoy disc 2 which are tracks not used in the film.

>>147423981
>those filters that blur everything on the sides
Looking at this gives me a headache.

>>147423981
can someone please find the whole movie already. and link it!

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>Koe no Flopachi
>opens at no. 2
>flop

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>>147383131
>But honestly, Kimi no na wa is one in a lifetime success for Makoto.

He found a way to access meme magic.

>>147385745
>Yamakan
I could rub my balls on a set of animation cels and sell more then 883 copies.

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Whether or not this movie was a succ ess or a flop.
MTSP should make another Koe no Katachi doujin.
This time, with the other milf, then again if it is with previous one again, I wouldn't mind at all.
Or both of them, getting a bit greedy!

>>147398570
>Neo-
PLEASE go back to /v/.

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I'm waiting for the OST to come out. I need that ed.

>>147422811
>MAL
You have to go back.

>>147413787
>there must be something else in the collective consciousness of Moonland that has really grabbed their attention in Kimi no Na Wa

It's just marketing. This was one of the most highly marketed anime films in recent years. It got more marketing than Disney films. The whole "Miyazaki's successor" angle is also part of the marketing scheme, because Ghibli's animation studio was closed and the guys with the money need to find some other lucrative asset. So they put their money on Shinkai's film.

Kimi no Na wa is not significantly better than his past films. But it got two orders of magnitude more marketing than them. Seriously, this past summer the film was pushed EVERYWHERE in Japan. You couldn't walk the street or turn on the TV without running into a Kimi no Na wa CM or endorsement.

If it doesn't brake 150 million dollars in revenue, I don't think they'll recoup their marketing budget.

>>147424713
>>147413787
It helps that the producer for Kimi no Na Wa. has been behind Hosoda's previous movies, so he obviously knows a thing or two about finding the right recipe for a hit.

>>147383823
In Japan they are saying "Shin Gozilla" is for old male freaks, and "Kimi no Na Wa" is for young people.

Guess what target audience goes to the cinema more frequently.

>>147382779
Is FlopAni the floppiest studio of our generation?

>>147383823
Anno btfo again

>>147423788
I hope there's a teleporting slap.

>>147414402
maybe i have fucking alzheimers but i really dont remember there ever being a school festival? what happened during it again?

>>147425278
They screened the film they worked on while Shouya was unconscious, the X's fell off people's faces. Of course, the film removed the film plot.

>>147425371
seems like a fine ending to me. i didnt like how nishimiya fucked off for 2 years.

>>147425425
oh, also, have you seen the film? do they hold hands, confess, or anything like that in it at the end?

>>147424792
>It helps that the producer for Kimi no Na Wa. has been behind Hosoda's previous movies

No he's not? None of them are.

>>147424713
>If it doesn't brake 150 million dollars in revenue, I don't think they'll recoup their marketing budget.
Yep, I'm sure their business plan had becoming a top 10 movie of all time as a break-even point.

>>147425477
dont respond to retards, anon

Otaku shit is dominating the box office. What a time to be alive.

What boggles the mind, is the incessant praise they give Shin godzilla and Kimi no nawa. It's like praising a 6/10 movie just because it made a lot of money.

>Koe no Flopachi
>no "flop no katachi"
step up senpai

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>>147425914
Kimi no na wa is a 10/10 Anime of the Millennium.

Your Name was better

It will be the best anime movie of all time, they said
It will stretch kyoanus worldwide, they said
It will win Oscar, they said

>>147426135
dat main character seat...

Tickets sold Monday(19h)

順位 販売数 座席数 回数 館数 先週比 映画（作品名）
*1　300491　429183　1147　219　277.2%　君の名は。
*2　*68148　*97840　*403　101　******　映画 聲の形
*3　*63279　140537　*832　218　285.4%　四月は君の嘘
*4　*49003　207298　*902　229　******　怒り
*5　*44637　163462　*905　239　163.0%　スーサイド・スクワッド

Biggest single day ever for Kimi no Na wa and the day is not over yet.

>>147426718
Koe no Katachi is also doing very good.
What a time to be alive!

>>147426718
Why does it keep happening? This is unreal for any kind of movie.

>>147426799
Only retards thought it will flop. These anime movies are cheap as shit, they probably got their money back by now.

>>147426805
Hype. Praise and word of mouth.

I don't think the anime is worth all of it though.

>>147426718
>it pulled ahead of shigatsu

Was shigatsu somehow more of a daytime film and KnK an evening film?

https://youtu.be/TTiOhl6gRtg

Ping pong ost > KnK ost

>>147383131
Shinkai will went full feel good after this which is a good thing, his butthurt bullshit is boring pile of shit.

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>>147382779
>hrrdrr let me keep spewing this bullshit till an idiot or two actually buy it

>>147427401
It's not a flop but it's not a hit.

>>147428753
And your point is, what? Did I ever say it's a hit? Stop being a retard and go read OP again

>>147417288
<spoiler style="background: #FFF; font-size:1.75em">lol</spoiler>

>>147428753
Lol it is a hit. A big hit actually.

>>147428753
It's a big fucking hit for Shochikou. It's Outperforming AnoHana right now without the media blitz that Aniplex pulled for that movie or the big names attached to it. This is probably going to hit 900M to 1B on a 100 screen. This is Disappearance level of happening for Shochiku and KyoAni.

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>>147382779
xD le epic studio wars are so fahnny

>>147429298
An average animated movie costs about 500k in production. This however isn't average since it's Kyoani so production quality is high and it's a very long movie. Costed a fuck ton, barely made any money back so far and won't have much legs due to Kimi no Na Wa, so tell me how is it a big hit?

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>Free is a flop.
>Eupho is a flop.
>Another Kyoani series is a flop.
>Kyoani movie is a flop.
Heard it all before.

>>147429455
You're absolutely retarded.

Budget doesn't dictate animation quality. Staff experience does. You probably think ufoshit gets a huge budget too.

It's definitely a hit.

>>147429602
Yeah you keep believing that it's a big hit, it may just become so. Will it into being, that's right.

>koe no katachi
Art film about serious topics including disabilities, bullying and suicide.
>kimi no na wa
Commercial blockbuster about body swapping and boob fondling.

It's disappointing but not really a surprise that the latter is doing better.

>>147429689

Otaku always win.

BOOYAH

>>147429768
But KnK is the Otaku movie. Kimi no Wa na is seen by everyone and their girlfriend.

>>147429768
>Otaku always win
Then koe no Floptachi should do well, no?

>>147429814
It is and it's not even flopping.

>>147429805
>Otaku is the opposite of mainstream

That's not how it works anymore. The mainstream are Otaku. It's the result of the sharp decline in population.
garupan and LL! popularity are further evidence of this.

>>147429925
Not really. Compare a mainstream movie like Hosoda's or Kimi no Na wa to LL! numbers. Otaku aren't as big as you think. And that to not count big hitters like Yokai Watch, One Piece or The wind rises which made 6 times that of LL!.

>>147383131
>replying to a bait thread with actual arguments intead of ignoring/filtering or taking part in the shitpost

>>147426718
Holy shit.
How the fuck is this kyoani flop betting shows like shitgatsu and suicide with less than half of their screening? Did Kyoani found the way again?

>>147430159
You should found a dictionary before trying to post again.

>>147425915
Except that sounds way shittier

>>147393920
>Miyazaki
I think he already surpassed Miyazaki at making Anime, because those movies that Miyazaki produces aren't actual Anime, Shinkai went beyond that creating Anime that caters to both normalfaggots and otaku that's greater feat than only making the same plain shit for normalfaggots.

>>147430362
>because those movies that Miyazaki produces aren't actual Anime
Totoro and Kiki are both as otaku as it is. He went full normalfag mode after mononoke hime.

>>147424713
>Kimi no Na wa is not significantly better than his past films
Actually its premise is already more friendly with mainstrean audience than Shinkai previous movies.

>>147429455
Actually KyoAni staff is able to produce higher quality animation with less money, that's even why even Myazaki got impressed with KyoAni work.

>>147430159
It opened a month after Suicide squad. But yeah KyoAni found a big fat way. This is bigger than Keion for them because they're topping the committee for this so after Shochiku and Pony Canyon take their parts the rest of the profits goes directly to their bank account. Expect a lot more KyoAni projects of this type.

>>147430517
Source? Because I never read anything about Miyazaki commenting about KyoAni or any otaku studio for that matter. He only commented on movie makers.

>>147429925
>The mainstream are Otaku. It's the result of the sharp decline in population.
>garupan and LL! popularity are further evidence of this.
Literally retarded while otaku styled works are being appreciated by larger audiences, it does not means that, otaku are the majority or even close of being mainstrean.

>>147413787
Positive word of mouth.

>>147383284
>Suicide Squad keeps making money

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>>147393920
Miyazaki makes family movies that everyone can enjoy. Without the scenery/background porn Shinkai's movies would be generic light novel romance garbage.

>KyoAnusfags trying to rationalize that flopping of their movie

Ok.

>>147430362
>>147430433
You are both right.

>>147431147
And you are a fucking idiot.

>>147431594
>>147430362
>>147430433
>You are both right.
You're wrong
>>147431147
And you are a fucking idiot.
You're right

>>147408157
Read this and you'll know why it can't trend on twitter
http://getnews.jp/archives/1524234

>>147382779
>there's this group of vocal kyoani haters that always create "kyoani le flop XD" threads

>>147383823
Even with Shin doing ridiculous numbers, it's still toku and toku always loses in the end

>>147384578
We can still laugh at Okada because she's shit

>>147432159
>can't trend on twitter
Otaku mostly avoids twitter and normalfaggot social networks.

>Sales = Quality

Anyone who claims sales are in any form, an indicator of quality should be shot.
More sales means more pandering to the masses. That's all it means.

>>147432586
More sales=more money for Kyoani=they can survive for longer before they go bankrupt

>>147432586
Quality is subjective and only audiences are able to determine quality, sorry that's reality, sales is the most concrete indicator of quality.

>>147432229
Its jealousy over superior Monogatari films. They're like rabid GuPfags. They should watch Shaft films to really know quality works that bring quality sales.

>>147432648
>kyoani
>going bankrupt
>almost everything they do sells well including this
It's not like KyoAni is JC Staff or DEEN or something

>>147432715
>bayformers is good
>sao is good
>eva 3.0 is good
Fuck off

>>147432727
>They're like rabid GuPfags
I don't think so, KyoAni haters or Shaft haters are mostly nostalgiafags/casualfaggots.

I'm really excited for Kimi no na wa.
When is it coming to the west?

>>147432754
JC or Deen aren't anywhere near bankruptcy either. They have multiple projects lined up. Studios like Madhouse and Gainax are the dead ones where they only get sequel projects or no projects at all.

>>147432867
Tomorrow

>>147432806
Sales are a good indicator for quality if it's for something successful I like.

Sales are a bad indicator for quality if it's for something successful I dislike.

Shitpost tactic as usual.

>>147432896
And KyoAni has some more projects in the works. Starting with VEG, then more Free! followed by FMP, probably after that they're going to animate Coppelia then Robot Heart Update. All that with a couple or more movies.

>>147432715
Exactly because quality is subjective, it cannot be quantified. A sales number doesn't speak of something's quality, it speaks of its marketability and appeal. How easy it is to sell it.

Paranormal activity took 20k to make and cashed in 200 millions. It is simply one of the greatest horror films ever made, you can feel the effort and passion of the staff in every frame.

>>147432806
>>bayformers is good
>>sao is good
>>eva 3.0 is good
Sorry to break it for you, liking those shows or not is subjective matter even if I agree with you about those movies you listed, you still must agree that its just about our tastes and nothing more, and due the fact quality itself is subjective you should try using other term to describe your evaluation.

>>147432896
>Madhouse only get sequel projects or no projects
OPM, Ore Monogatari, All Out, Death Parade, Parasyte

>>147432986
After the Hibike and Koe no Katachi success I actually think they're going to move to buying IP rights to animation like they did with these two. The quality of the LNs they have is subpar and the whoe thing about adapting LNs is subpar. They should focus on manga IMO.

>>147433127
I meant future projects which are two movies for sequels. Nothing else.

>>147432995
>subjective, it cannot be quantified.
That's why I said that sales the most concrete, still not enough but any other type of approach quantify it is a mistake, its the most concrete because its mostly determined by peoples evaluation and tastes which is proxy for quality.

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>>147430362
>movies that Miyazaki produces aren't actual Anime

>>147433217
I suppose they will look to do more standalone movies now that KnK is a confirmed hit for them.

>>147432909
This, even if I don't like something that sells it does not means that its quality is low, people should try to used words based on its meaning and not based on what you wish it should mean.

>>147433217
They'll almost definitely get a decent amount of money and backing for content from Shochiku and Kodansha as well.

When will the movie be available? Does it have a DVD release date?

>>147433504
Nobody should ever judge something based on sales or popularity.

Unless the topic is about trying to explain or find an explanation why something sells good or is popular with this or that crowd of people of course.

>>147433407
Miyazaki himself said that and I agree, Anime is cited by him as being modern animation that Japanese people are producing, he describes his work as purely animation in more westernized way.

>>147383131
Based Shinkai, the god of romance. But was it actually as good as 5 cm per second masterpiece?

>>147432586
This. In most cases, the more something sells the dumber it is. Is has to lower itself to appeal to everyone. That's why real challenging works of art don't usually sell well.

>>147382779
Wow, Subaru sure got a new hair style.

>>147433820
Yeah and Miyazaki is an idiot. His work is not very western at all.

Kimi no na wa was good, in my opinion, but it wasn't better than 5cm/s or Kumo no Mukou.

I think Shinkai just got lucky somehow.

>>147433820
His works are very Japanese.

>>147433809
>Nobody should ever judge something based on sales or popularity.
You are right, but due the fact that quality is based on peoples subjective perception sales and/or popularity are the most concrete means of quantifying quality as it reflects the meaning of quality-group perception, but in the end your own evaluation is what matter.

>>147432715
Weird, I swear I remember some people called "critics" mentioned somewhere as quality indicator, I must be mistaken

>>147434102
>His works are very Japanese.
No they are undeniably Japanese because hes unable to completely disconnect his his Japanese experience from his work yet he still tries.

>>147433268
All Out's going to be 2 cours and they have this next year on top the of the movies.

https://myanimelist.net/anime/33337/ACCA__13-ku_Kansatsu-ka

>>147434219
>"critics" mentioned somewhere as quality indicator
Firstly quality indicator is not quality and using critics as quality indicator may indicate also lack personality from people solely relying on critics opinions.

>>147434432
I don't think he tries at all.

>>147434219
That's why buying "critics" may be more cost efficient than changing your product, both are valid means of changing the quality from your product.

>>147430569
Protip: he's pulling it out of his ass. He's done it with Shinkai. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes for Obama next. Take his statement with a grain of salt.

>>147434832
Most of his movies aren't particularity Japanese at art direction or plot.

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>>147429689
>koe no katachi
>Art film

No and Yamada sucks Shinkai's cock

>>147433429
I wonder what Kodansha manga they should adapt? I'm hoping for a Ballroom e Youkoso adaptation by Yamada and Ishihara.

>>147435314
Vinland Saga by Takemoto or Ishidate.

>>147435224
Other way around, Shinkai can't stop raving about Yamada's films.

>>147435398
I thought about it but it's way out of their comfort zone. And unless VEG is a hit I don't think they're going to venture that far.

>>147435224
No, Shinkai sucks Yamada's pussy, actually.

>>147435314
Vinland Saga.

Right up their alley post Askeladd.

>>147435224
You can not like it all you want but it's always going to be considered an art film.

>>147382779
Also just an update. Today was the movie's biggest day with 80k viewers out 120k. So yeah it found a way.

>>147382779
Not even a flop though
But I don't care about this as long as kyo-ani can get enough budget to make Haruhi S3

>>147435476
Her pussy is roastie looking and turned black after being used Shochiku distributors begging for more cinema screens. But don't worry, you can jack off to her sex tapes that comes with KnK's BDs.

>>147435760
>3rd day is the biggest day
Damn, looks like word of mouth is getting around and people love the movie.

>>147434219
> Ballroom e Youkoso adaptation by Yamada and Ishihara.

Jesus fucking Christ, I want it.

>>147435398
>>147435490

How the hell did you even come up with that idea.

>>147429455
>This however isn't average since it's Kyoani so production quality is high

Wow man you actually made me laugh, because you're obviously one of those retards out their who think budget means quality whereas in fact quality actually depends more on schedule management

>a very long movie

And now you're getting even a fucking basic knowledge wrong. 2 hours something is by no means 'very long' for a movie, you stupid moron

Keep spewing that shit with which you're fooling yourself. Just don't expect others to be as dumb as you

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>>147435779

>>147435888
>How the hell did you even come up with that idea.
The author likes KyoAni and Ishidate mention that he want to work on something with historical setting.

>/a/ has to start disliking Shinkai now that he's a mainstream success
Shoutouts to all five of you still around from the pre 5cm Shinkai threads, waiting for subs.

>>147435888
Beautiful farmland
White snow scenery
Plus they can put the action scenes that they learn from chuu2 and that inferior knk to good use.
They only need to find a new character designer.

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Camrip when?

>>147436024
>the author likes Kyoani
Source?

>>147436100
>they need a new Character Designer
And what's my boy Nishiya going to do? He's more than up to the task.

>>147436245
Don't bother. According to him even my dog likes Kyoani.

>>147436119
Wait a minute, this guy is back!? I thought he has been on hiatus for her sister being sick. I hope she's all right now

>>147436245
https://twitter.com/makotoyukimura/status/551810120863076352
https://twitter.com/makotoyukimura/status/612575617276473344

>>147436501
Seems like no one ever has anything bad to say about Kyoani, just praises.

Besides Yamakan of course

>>147417339
3/4 girls are shit

>>147436501
He said something about Madoka as well.

Going by that logic, Shaft equally have the chance as well.

>>147436593
Except the twitter post from the thread yesterday, remember? But you probably don't wanna hear that because you still want to feel you're above us all.

>>147436593
Nah. Yamakan didn't badmouth KyoAni. But honestly why would anyone mention Kyoani in a bad light. They're far removed from the Tokyo focused industry so they don't directly compete with those and their adaptations are either good enough for the creators(Key and Keion guy) or they own the book so they don't care about the writer opinion(all their publishing label adaptations).

>>147436787
Which twitter post?

>>147436787
He said that he went back to watching anime because of Madoka but was captured instead by the works of KyoAni. You should really learn nip if you want to shitpost about their tweets.

>>147436926
>he went back to watching anime because of Madoka

See? Shaft still wins.

>>147436961
Sounds like they lost

>>147436961
Not really. The way he worded it was because of the hype of Madoka. So you can conclude that he found the hype about Madoka empty and went to the real meat of anime (ie KyoAni).

>>147432715
>>147434576
Retarded people having critics as their only means of judgement does not mean they aren't quality indicators. It's literally their job. Are you saying that awards are worthless?

>>147436961
Shaft is just good at style not animation per se, with strong creation sense but that's it, Shaft is more like direction firm, animation is mostly outsourced and low quality.

>>147436850
Probably he's referring to that gaijin that said that the movie was a mess with directorial issues and bad pacing, along with not being faithful to the source for removing the trash that was the second part of the manga.
He also said that Kizu was ruling the box office.

>>147437214
>quality indicators
Literally means group subjective perception, depends is such critics are able to influence the opinion from large groups, if they are able to do it or if they simply represent the perception from large groups they are good enough as quality indicators not because some inherent property from any piece of entertainment or art being subject of their critic.

>>147426718
Oh shit

>>147429689
>Art film about serious topics including disabilities, bullying and suicide.
If any of these suggests (disabilities, racism, tolerance, etc) mattered we wouldn't have boards like /pol/.
Tits > Muh good human behavior

>>147437459
As expected from a filthy whitu piggu.
BTW the release circumstances were great for Koe no Katachi as this holiday was the biggest since it started
2　88267　121476　500　101　NEW A Silent Voice
At this point I'm thinking this will surpass AnoHana and Anthem of the heart at the box office.

>>147429689
Art is buzzword but your opinion is probably shared by the majority

*1　329026　524250　1402　219　257.0%　Kimi no Na wa
*2　*78267　121476　*500　101　******　Koe no Katachi
*3　*64847　169205　1009　218　263.7%　Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso
*4　*53086　257027　1126　229　******　Rage
*5　*50291　211930　1168　239　143.2%　Samurai Hustle Returns

KnK fell 1.5% compared to Sunday, Kimi no Na wa increased 3%.

>>147437945
It's not a buzzword. It has pretty clear implications.

>>147437717
That's a fine opinion to have, so long as you make no claims at having taste or anything of the sort.

>>147437931
>2　88267　121476　500　101　NEW A Silent Voice

>>147438823
>*2　*78267　121476　*500　101　******　Koe no Katachi
Which one is Monday's?

>>147439052
78 267, yet all the figures are estimates, box office is out tonight for numbers of last week.

>>147434102
On the contrary, they're some of the least Japanese works to come out of the Japanese industry. It's why they're so popular in the west. He borrows a lot from European works and mixes European folklore with Japanese folklore.

>>147434212
>quality is based on peoples subjective perception

Except it isn't. Beauty is objective. Fuck all relativists.

Stop with the KnK acronyms. I can't follow anymore.

>>147439493
Those are not estimates. Those are actual attendance numbers (from a subset of Japan's cinemas).

>>147440465
His "popularity" in the west is a minuscule fraction of his enormous domestic success, and said domestic success is the only reason he's ever been noticed outside Japan in the first place.

>>147432552
Not true at all. Kancolle with swords was trending the day knk premiered

Kimi no Na wa is confirmed to be a mainstream romcom with a miracle, designed and produced for the normies and youngsters who are into "anime".

If you are a true anime fan you should at least have the restraint to judge it on how it is, not how well it sells.

From all I've seen Koe no Katachi is fine, the fact that it didn't sell nearly as much is irrelevant.

Saw it. Wasn't impressed. Kyoani hasn't made anything good since Haruhi.

>>147442494
>normies
>>>/r9k/

>>147425914
oh no the movie doesn't have screaming 3d animals or explosions and people being killed, must be otaku trash

>>147442344
>Kancolle with swords
Not otaku but fujoshi those are very distinct groups

>>147440518
>Except it isn't. Beauty is objective
No its not and and entertainment is about more than just beauty

>>147438902
>It's not a buzzword. It has pretty clear implications.
Like what?Try arguing about that you cant win.

>>147442785
Actually both Knk and Kiminawa got more moe elements that normally leads to mainstream rejection, even Japanese people are talking that few years ago due art style alone those movies would be totally ignored by mainstream audience, also Kiminawa LN is said to be run-of-the-mill LN i.e otaku centered.

>>147443753
>Knk got more moe elements that normally leads to mainstream rejection,

That's not true though, Knk could actually even work as dorama and as a LA movie without any change.

>due art style alone

Yeah, so at the most superficial level. Nobody should take that reaction seriously, it just means that jap people are less biased now.

>>147443753
> Kiminawa LN

Execution alone can drastically change the tone of the series, and there there's a person like Shinkai who can easily rework it with his personal style which isn't really otaku-ish and it's actually very normie friendly.