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Death by tea soon.
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choose your bulma
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DB and DBZ are canon.

DBGT and DBS are not canon.
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>>147104174
Hey mom look I can bait.
Super is canon, wrote by Akira... You really are brain dead aren't you.
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>>147104174
I can agree Gt isnt.
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>>147104174
M8 I'm a Gohanfag too but don't be ridiculous DBS is for sure canon
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>>147104174
Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, and Dragon Ball Super are canon. Gt is not canon. As for their rankings,

Dragon Ball>>>>>Super>Z>>>>>>>>>>>GT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dragon Ball Evolution
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>>147104174
>Things I don't like aren't canon

DB
DBZ
DBS
Deal with it
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>>147104165
I'll take fro' Bulma, future Bulma, and first appearance Bulma.
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>>147104174
Is this the same Gohanfag from the last thread?

God damn, 4Chan really has the bottom of the barrel for its community
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>>147104165
>there are people who wouldn't choose the first bulma
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>>147104370
Flash shit will never be canon, no matter how much you think it is.

Dragon Ball is 80's/90's anime, not the digital soulless feminized crap of today.

You like DBS because you're underage and have never watched the originals.
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>>147104174
Every thread, fuck off you sad act
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>>147102827
nothing is explained at all yet

it could be the currents timeline future zamasu who somehow got to trunk's timeline
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>>147104416
>>147104420
Yeah 'fro bulma is a very close second
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>>147104345
>Super > Z
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>>147104174
>DB and DBZ are two different things
oh animebabbies
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>>147104107
they both die but the future doesn't change.
The same story from android saga.
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>>147104174
I agree. anyone who says DBS is canon is just baiting, nobody really thinks that

from all the comments we see on youtube, nobody likes dbs
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>>147104451
Vegeta has good taste
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>Gowasuposting is memed to no end
>Now Super is actually having an ENTIRE FUCKING EPISODE of the cast watching Gowasu drinking tea and yelling "Zamasu!" to ask for more tea

I-I DON'T LIKE THIS MEME ERA ANYMORE
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>>147104516
I want to put my penis inside her fro
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>>147104445
Not knowing what words are. Canon means created by a company or artist as part of a unified universe. SUPER IS CANON.
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Zamasu did nothing wrong.
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>>147104416
>that's actually Oolong
>any appearance of Bulma could actually be Oolong
>any time you make love to Bulma it could actually be Oolong
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>>147104543
Nope, everything that happens in your Flash cartoon is not real. It is fictional and not part of the real Dragon Ball story (which ends with Goku training Uub).
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>>147104165
Bu saga Bulma
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>>147104445
>Baiting this hard
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>>147104553
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>>147104532
He demands tea every half hour. God if I was Zamasu I would fucking snap too. No more ningens, no more tea.
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>>147104603
Just stop replying to the "DBS is canon" fags, they are just baiting.

We all know DBS isn't canon.
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>>147104445
>waaaaaaah muh old nostalgia driven anime that doesn't look that great these days is better than crisp anime!

You can deceive yourself but you cannot deceive us
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>>147104603
Cartoon not real. Damn that's some next level shit... EVERYONE CARTOONS AREN'T REAL>>147104693
Are you still talking to yourself
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>>147104174
>DB and DBZ
Retard pls the manga is canon not those shitty adaptations and yes DBS is canon deal with it.
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>>147104563
>Not wanting to make love to based Oolong
>Willing to do anything for money, things the females would never do
>No homo shit, just strictly business

Oolong is a good bro
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>>147104668

>mfw Gowasu didn't even notice his dear apprentice was gone for half a day until it was tea time.
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>>147104734
>m-m-m-muh 80s and 90s anime didn't age like milk! It totally looks just as great...haha....*sweats nervously*
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>>147104806
I remember when trolling meant something.
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>>147104856
>y-y-you're just t-trolling...hehe...g-g-gotem
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>>147104174

>http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-book-version/

>I’m really grateful to you. I never thought an artist like you would come along to draw the continuation of my story!
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At this point I'm fairly sure that Gowasu has a baby monitor in his room connected to Zamasu's, so he can yell "Zamasu! Zamasu!" in the middle of the night and wake him up to sere him night tea or tell him a bed story
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>>147104766
I like Oolong too
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>>147104767
>>147104952
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>>147104806
you have shit taste
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>>147104899
>draw
based, since toriyama still does the story
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>>147104994
He's underage, born after 2000.

All he knows is moeblob anime.
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It stays as extra in peripherial media, but I want Tori to come up with a new design for more variety. Her Neko Majin look is one.

I mean, we already have many Trunks and Goku's costumes, Pan should get more.
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>>147105029
>my nostalgia can't be w-wrong or anything! I am the only o-o-one capable of deciding w-what l-l-looks good or not! I totally am not b-b-b-b-blinded by n-nostalgia! No! My p-poorly d-drawn characters look g-g-reat!
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>>147105265
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Choose wisely.
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>>147105596
>Wife tier
Chi-Chi and Mai

>Cumdumpster tier
Bulma, Launch, Videl, #18

The rest are not canon, unless that blue girl is Princess Snake.
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Kakarot is a traitor to his own race and family.

All because he literally got brain damage.
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>>147105811
His race? What race, when his planet was destroyed and only a bunch of ALL MALE assassins and psychos survived?
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>>147105982
That doesn't change the fact he's a traitor?

He could have went on space adventures with his own people but nooo he had to side with weak earthlings because muh feelings.
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>>147104107
No. They'll prevent it and future Zamasu + Black will disappear due to that.
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>>147104345
>Super>Z
dumbass here, ladies and gents
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>>147105953
God fucking damn it gifs and pictures like this that make me realise we are basically watching a parodie of Z for 58 episodes already
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>>147106078
They are a bunch of assholes?
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>>147104345
>Super>Z
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>>147106258
They are working for Frieza.
It's just business.
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>>147104461
Personally I felt Z tried to hard to be edgy at some times, Androids by far was the weakest arc for me.

Super knows what it is and even when they do attempt to bring the show to a darker tone, we have a far more vibrant and playful Goku to balance it out.
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>>147106449
Have you forgot the fact Super's animation and quality looks like shit compared to Z?
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What do you guys think of the latest TFS episode?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4E5hzC8Xvs
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>>147106565
They aren't as funny as they used to be.

They are a professional voice cast now, and I feel like they are just telling the story, with occasionaly some sophisticated joke thrown here and there.
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>>147106283
>>147106115
>>147104461
Was going to rank Z above Super but ignoring Super's animation quality I think it's the better of the two.
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>>147105770
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>>147106849
>Kai

Dragon Box or Blu-ray or get out.

Kai and the Orange Bricks look like ass.
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>>147106449
>Personally I felt Z tried to hard to be edgy at some times
You complete moron have probably just suffered brain tumor from browsing /a/ to long. Just because faggots tend to call "edgy" on all kinds of stuff on this board doesn't give you the right to parrot it in the first topic you stumble upon. For all its flaws Dragonball Z had being "edgy" wasn't one of it so I just go ahead and assume you have absolutely no clue about the meaning of the buzzword you are using.
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>>147106943
It's the same shit retard.
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>>147106998
No it's not you gigantic imbecile.
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>>147106998
underage banned
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>>147106762
That's why it's good
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>>147107049
>>147107143
Show me the original versions of these >>147105770
>>147106849
and much "better" they look then.
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>>147106487
Have you forgotten DBZ was hardly better? It's fucking toei, who the hell watched DBZ for the animation?
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>>147106952
Didn't even read it because you couldn't start your argument like an adult.

Just because we are on an anime board on 4chan doesn't excuse name calling as low brow. Calm down, step away from your computer, go on a stroll through your neighborhood trail, and come back when you are ready to have a conversation without the use of name calling.
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>>147105596
gine and valese
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>>147107281
Kai has redone entire frames, they removed grain and made it look like ms paint.

Dub is completely different, and Gohan sounds annoying.

Music is from Japanese.

Intro is entirely different.

All filler removed, many of which were great.

So for you to say "It's the same shit" is retarded and wrong.
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>>147107586
>Show me the original versions of these
>and much "better" they look then.
You can't? Then shut the fuck up retard.
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>>147107677
Oh so you're baiting.

2/10 for the effort.
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>>147107575
My nigger
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>>147107677
>spoonfeed me pls
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>>147107729
>>147107773
>prove my argument for me
Please refer to >>147107677
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>>147107834
>Prove something that everyone knows and is common sense
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>>147107586
Kai also censors alot of scenes, like the impalement of Krillin.
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>>147104174
Everything is canon because alternate universes.
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From best to worst:

Level Sets > Dragon Box > Blu-ray > Kai > Orange Bricks

Level sets are discontinued and Dragon Boxes are expensive, so the best way to watch DBZ for the average person is to get the Blu-rays.

The Orange Bricks are disgusting and should be erased from existence.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7WqKjZy7jk
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>>147104174
this.

Dragon Ball ended at pic related
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>>147108414
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>>147108404
You realize we aren't to that point yet. Uub is still a baby
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>>147104174
DB, DB Kai, and DBS are canon.

DBZ and DBGT are not canon.
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>>147108593
Jesus Christ, DBZ sucks this scene was padded out as hell.
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>>147108769
0/10
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>>147108404
So I guess DBS fits your description of canon then
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>>147108871
No because it's flash shit and everyone looks retarded.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z6yGbkaxkY

Dragon Ball is hilarious.
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>>147108769
>DB, DB Kai, and DBS are canon.
>DBZ Kai
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
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>>147108907
> it's not canon cause I don't like it!

So if I don't like the Cell Saga, it isn't canon?

Wow I never thought about it like that before!
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>>147104532
>After the intro and the recap, the title screen pops up
>"Surprise! Goku doesn't like Rooibos Tea?!"
>The episode starts with Zamasu walking in, handing everyone their coffee
>Gowasu speaks up
>"ZAMASU! I can't enjoy my tea without Kamitube!"
>Zamasu runs back inside and not much later reappears, pushing an entire TV set into the garden for Gowasu and his guests to enjoy
>"ZAMASU! You took too long, now my tea is cold! Get me a new one!"
>Zamasu brews an entirely new pot of tea for Gowasu
>Then Beerus speaks up
>"Zamasu, was it? This tea is too hot for me. Go get me a strawberry parfait from earth so I can cool off... or else I'll destroy you"
>Zamasu quickly travels to earth and back with a freshly made strawberry parfait
>Whis speaks up
>"Oya oya, did I forget to ask one for myself as well? Be a dear and get me another one, Zamasu-kun"
>Zamasu gets another strawberry parfait
>Gowasu once more
>"ZAMASU! My tea is cold AGAIN. Brew me another cup!"
>Zamasu brews even more tea and presents it to Gowasu
>He turns around, ready to run to his room to scream into a pillow
>"ZAMASU! Goku-san drank all of my tea! Brew me a new cup!"
>Zamasu brews yet another cup
>Goku speaks up this time
>"IYAAAAA~ Zamasu, I don't really like Rooibos. Can you brew me some Green Tea? Just a little, just a little!"
>Zamasu runs into the kitchen, then returns to inform Goku he's all out of Green Tea
>"ZAMASU! What did I tell you about stocking my tea collection?"
>[Desire to destroy ningen intensifies]
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>>147109204
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>>147109204
>>147109493
Now that's more like it.
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Why are we still arguing about canon?

Reminder that just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not canon.

Reminder that there are actually two separate canons:

Manga:
> Jaco the Galactic Patrolman
> DB
> DBS (Toyataro)

Anime:
> DB
> DB Kai
> Yo! Son Goku Returns
> BoG Movie
> RoF Movie
> DBS (Toei) Episodes 28+

I'm not sure where DBO fits in this regard, but it's probably the end-canon for both manga/anime
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hi
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>>147104165
The slutty no-panty flasher one.
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>>147106449
Reasons why Z is better than Super: Toriyama was young and his creativity wasn't dead, he managed to incorparated comedy and action. Buu saga was comedy with end of the world plot. Toei made great and actually funny SoL episodes, while in Super Toei uses the same shitty jokes, Vegeta is everyone's bitch, Beerus and Whis eat a lot, they are so powerful but they only help when Goku needs a restart button. Super doesn't know how to incorporate action and comedy in the same episode.
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>>147110284

The whole scenes with Dabura in heaven were as retarded as Pilaf Gang comedy.
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>>147110284
>Toei made great and actually funny SoL episodes
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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>>147106773
What a newbie.
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>>147110424
It was okayish. But Toei made good aditions, except for Garlic Jr saga.
>>147110467
>I don't know what to reply to invalid a post that I don't like, better to laugh like a kid with downs.
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>>147110483
Piccolo.

Went from a demon king that terrorized the world and tortured Goku to a babysitter of Saiyan kids.
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>>147109361
underrated post
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Soon.
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>>147111260
Not canon.

Deviantart tumblr fan-fiction.
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>>147110710
Dude if you seriously think Toei did great filler than you have downs
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>>147111260
SOON
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>>147111260
>>147111547
Soon?
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>>147105596
Short haired Videl and only if she's short haired.
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This Kaioshin was Zamasu isn't?

At some it was revealed that future Beerus doesn't exist since U7 Kaioshin was killed by Dabura, so it could't have been the future counterpart of the current Kaioshin.
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>>147111673
It was (Eastern) Kaioshin. He just was killed after he gave instructions to Trunks.
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>>147111673
>Kaioshin

Subfag detected.
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Red Ribbon Army > 21st Tenkaichi Budokai > Namek/Freeza > Jinzoningen/Cell > Black > Buu > rest of the filler bullshit
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>>147104107

Zamasu is really stupid. The super dragonballs can grant ANY wish. When you have all seven of them, true omnipotence is in the palm of your hand. Yet, he only wishes for immortality and a Goku puppet.

Why not wish to be literally omnipotent? Why not make Zeno his puppet? Why not simply wish all his plans and desires to be fullfilled instantly?
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>>147104608

Extremely bad taste. Only GT Bulma is worse.
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>>147111673
They use "Kaioshin-sama" when talking about U7 Supreme Kai
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>>147112311
Just give him a fucking name Toriyama
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>>147112311
I want to bully that midget kaioshin
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>>147111673
>>147111797

For some reason I feel like Zamasu somehow had a hand in the death of the future Supreme Kai. They won't mention that bit for nothing.
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>>147112002
It goes like this

1. Emperor Pilaf arc
2. 21st World Martial Arts Tournament arc
3. Red Ribbon Army arc
4. 22nd World Martial Arts Tournament arc
5. King Piccolo arc
6. 23rd World Martial Arts Tournament arc
7. Saiyan arc
8. Namek arc
9. Frieza arc
10. Android arc
11. Cell arc
12. Great Saiyaman arc
13. Buu arc

Although most people group Namek/Frieza and Android/Cell and Saiyaman/Buu as 3 sagas.
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>>147112415
He spends most of the show being bullied, it's great
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>>147112429
I was ranking them. It just ended up looking chronological.
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>>147104165
I'm weak for the Buu saga one
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>>147104165
FBulma all the way.
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>>147112221
so what's the point if he reaches the end game immediately?
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>>147109920

Everytime I see that poster, I sigh how full of personality Marron and Videl are compared to the pair of bots we currently have in Super.

Fuck Toei.
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>>147112766
Trunks is canonically a foot taller then vegeta isn't he?
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>>147112957
yeah
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>>147112957
>foot

lol americans
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Threadly reminder that Zamasu's fight with Goku will be the only thing preventing him from turning evil in the DBS timeline. Goku showed him what ningen are capable of and Zamasu will grudgingly come to respect that, and end up fighting alongside Goku against his evil alternate timeline self.
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>>147113189
No one cares about DBS just as nobody cares about GT.
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>>147110919
That teaches you what a great character Piccolo is.
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>>147113215

Why are you bothering to post in a DBS thread then?
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>>147113189
So why does his evil alternate timeline self have a Goku servant to begin with? If he never met Goku, then why would he wish for a servant who looks like Goku? The most sensible conclusion is that the evil Zamasu is from the same timeline.
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>>147113296
This is now a DBZ thread.
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>>147113319

Not at all. Zamasu can use the time rings to view the future. He foresaw Goku coming to wreck his shit so he wished for a copy to counter him.
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why are gt fags so butthurt their universe doesn't exist
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>>147111414
It means you have no taste. The fillers added characterization between the fights.
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Trunks looks so awesome when he returns to his own timeline and wears that grey/black clothes and badass haircut when he destroys #17 and #18.

>THIS IS FOR GOHANN!!!
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>>147113388

If he foresaw Goku coming, then we're still talking about the Zamasu in the timeline where he gets visited by Goku. Unless there is yet another timeline where he gets visited by Goku. However, in this case, Goku's visit was obviously not the only thing that prevented him from going evil.
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>>147113329
Post pic then.
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>>147113398

When Gotenks faps, is it like Trunks and Goten having sex? What if they diffuse after cumming? Does their sperm diffuse too?
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>>147113465
This one? I agree.
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>>147110418
From this moment till when android 19 and gero showed up, I was firmly convinced that we were going to see some kick ass fighting with little ki attacks.

Armies of nigh invincible androids running around killing and absorbing ki from people while the Z fighters had to outfight and maneuver them with fighting skills only to lose leaving Gohan and Trunks slicing them up and fighting them off.

Goku was needed to take down the first two androids that started creating new ones.
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>>147113468
>If he foresaw Goku coming, then we're still talking about the Zamasu in the timeline where he gets visited by Goku

How do you figure that? I'm saying that the Zamasu in the Future Trunks timeline that became evil never had his sparring match with Goku before turning evil but used the time ring to foresee Goku coming so he wished for a copy to counter him.

Zamasu in the current timeline is a separate individual. His sparring match with Goku is an event that Future Trunks timeline Zamasu never had.
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>>147111655
Doesn't exist and never will. Time to give up buddy.
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>>147113388
Black appeared before Goku went to the future timeline. Black knew about Goku and Vegeta even when they are dead in the future. Unless Zumasu can see the future this arc is a shitty mess. Toriyama can't write serious stuff anymore.
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>>147111260
Very soon
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>>147113644
>Unless Zumasu can see the future

That's the exact point I've been trying to make this entire time. He can and does see the future using the time rings.
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>>147113529
Why don't you try it, instead of asking?
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>>147110919
I really wish the fusion technique was a namekian thing that piccolo remembered or made up and not something goku picked up from some random place in the afterlife.
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>>147113695
>He can and does see the future using the time rings.
Are you making up stuff or this was explained in the series?
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>>147111673
Nah, Trunks would have recongized Zamasu in the future then. Although oddly, he also showed no reaction to meeting U7 Kaioshin last episode.
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space tyrant

bug man

ancient evil

Who's your favorite villain?
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>>147113783

Did you miss the episode where he travels to the fucking future with Gowasu? The one where they check on the progress of that race that likes to beat each other with clubs?
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>>147112221
That's just Whis theorizing. I don't think he'll be correct considering how their plan somehow will fail.
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>>147113850
Cell is the most sophisticated of all three.

Imperfect form is creepy and horrific.
Semi-Perfect form is funny.
Perfect form is cool and awesome.

Frieza is just a generic Bond villain, and Majin Buu is.. a fucking bubblegum comedic relief.
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>>147105743
Princess Snake is filler and therefore not canon either, anon.
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>>147113850
I liked frieza for what he/she/it represented. A crazy ass space adventure that ended with a world destroying battle.

I liked bug man (before he became perfect) because of his potential and how creepy and scary he was and the potential interesting fights that could have been had

I like the ancient evil...okay I just liked kid buu and how terrifying the creature really is and the final awesome battle between him and SSJ3 goku.
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>>147113859
Why didn't he show the past of Zamasu's own race and how violent they were in the past?
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So is Gowaru literally retarded? Or is he in on the gig?
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>>147114042
Zamasu's race are just fruit that popped out of a tree.
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>>147114042

Because they can only travel to the future, not the past.

Have you even been watching the series?
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Who is Chi-Chi's mother?
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All I want is Gowasu to live, he has done NOTHING wrong and he's by far the best Kaio we have seein in fucking forever, hell, maybe the only wrong thing he has done so far is believe in Zamasu no matter what, he's THAT kind of guy, the one that just won't give up hope.

Please Zamasu don't kill Gowasu, please don't drop the ball like this, NOT LIKE THIS.
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>>147112415
no
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>>147114120
I assume also a giant like the Ox King.
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>>147114042
Kaioshin are forbid to go in the past, to prevent creating alternate timelines.
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>>147113829
I actually forget he existed until just now.
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>>147112357
His name is Shin. Tori yams forgot
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>>147113597

So there are two timelines where Goku goes to visit Zamasu? In one, he meets him and fights. In the other, he doesn't. That means there must also be two Trunks who come back in time who ask Goku for help. This means there must be two Blacks too. Otherwise, what's the reason for the "other" Goku to visit Zamasu?
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Last episode made Black's possible identity more confusing. It hinted that:

> Zamasu wishes Goku into becoming his ally
OR
> Zamasu wishes for a Goku clone
OR
> None of the above

The only issue with Black either being Evil Goku or a Goku copy is that he wouldn't be a god.

And the only reason why Black has SSR instead of SSB is because he's not a mortal.
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>>147113943

>Imperfect = Piccolo

>Semi-Perfect = Vegeta

>Perfect = Goku

That moment when you realize that they were fighting versions of themselves.
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>>147114109
Bulma built a time machine in a cave with a box of scraps.
Seriously, a fucking cave with whatever scraps she could find.
You mean to tell me fucking gods couldn't do it?
And fucking Black went to the past with his goddamned ring. Have YOU watched the show?

>>147114103
Bullshit.
Seriously?
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>>147114226
"Shin" is a dub-only name

His real name is literally Kaioshin
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>>147114172
nope
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>>147114177
They're fucking gods. They can watch the past without interacting with it or go to the past and remain invisible and intangible and flying high above everything so as to not interact with the world.
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>>147114120
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>>147114270
>So there are two timelines where Goku goes to visit Zamasu?

No, just one. The DBS timeline. The only timeline in which Goku is still alive.

In the Future Trunks timeline Goku from the DBS timeline comes to fight him, as we saw in the past few episodes. In this timeline, Zamasu has used the time rings to foresee Goku's coming so he created Black to counter him, which is the only reason he knows of Goku. Their meeting in the last few episodes was the first time they had ever met.
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>>147114393
yeah fruit people
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>>147114436
Rumors states that she was a demon and didn't die but simply went home one day.
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I think the explanation will simply be that Future Goku still met Future Zamasu somehow. If they're willing to give half an episode to Whis making a likely wrong theory about what's going on, I don't think some exposition on Future Goku's adventures after his death is unlikely.

>>147114393
>And fucking Black went to the past with his goddamned ring. Have YOU watched the show?
Only because of the time distortion created by the time machine. Note that he was dragged back to the future when it fixed itself.
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>>147114449
Have they actually done this in the show? No?
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>>147114531
So Zamasu is a bad apple?

Wait..is Zamasu's name a Japanese apple pun or something?
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>>147114340
They made it more confusing since they stated only a Kaioshin can use the time rings to travel through time. Zamasu still has his orange Potara from what we have seen so he couldn't possibly traveled to the future yet.

I'm legit struggling to see how all of this will play out.
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>>147114192
Goten is probably busy having space adventures with the nipple delivery guy.
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>>147114393
>You mean to tell me fucking gods couldn't do it?

Yes. They are forbidden to do so and the King of All will wreck their shit. Why do you think Beerus flips the fuck out when he learns about the time machines?
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>>147114678
>>147114574
>>147114565
Forbidden =/= they couldn't.
And Black did.
The fact that DE DISTORTION FIXED ITSELF doesn't mean that it's not possible for them to do it again under their own power.
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>>147109361
>>>/r9k/
Fuck off already.
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>>147114743
sometimes people follow the law
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>So hotshot, you want to fight me?
>Fight you? No. I want to kill you.
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The worst thing impacting DB lore constantly is the theme of 'Law & Order: Space Edition'.
'If they haven't done it yet, we mustn't do anything about it (because muh plot)'

The thing that irks me most is how highly regarded humans are in the show but are shown to impact things the least - all they serve to do is to act as living, spirit bomb batteries. Compared to the rest of space where it's vicious, lesser beings governed by space not-gods, overlooked by higher space not-gods overlooked by so on and so on. It's the worst thing for any lore to go through; existiential, other-worldly tripe.

Ironically, Zamasu is the most common sense to come out of this mess, yet he's stuck in the villain role. Even worse would be to find out that he's been merely a puppet this whole time.
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>>147114624
His name and Gowasu's name are references to archaic words for "to be". The only documentation I can find on it for English is about the Tokyo dialect
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>>147114499
Now I get it. So the only time Trunks-TL-Zamasu saw Goku was when he watched Godtube which gave him the idea to wish for immortaility from the Super-DBs.
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>>147114743

The time machine created the distortion in time and Black merely followed it. Without the ring he couldn't do anything, and without the distortion he couldn't stay. They aren't permitted to travel to the past so the rings aren't constructed in a way that will allow them to do so, typically.

Even if he could travel to the past he cannot change it. All he could do is create a different timeline. Assuming the time ring had the power to do so, which it does not.
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>>147114120
I wish they showed more of the Son family outings. Like they did with Vegeta's family in the first ep of Super when they went to that amusement park. Though with how Goku acts in Super, that's probably for the best.
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>>147113859
That's exactly the problem. They should had traveled to EoZ, Trunks' future is a whole different dimension. It doesn't exist in main timeline's future. But Toriyama is too senile to realize it.
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>>147114743
>Forbidden =/= they couldn't.
Whis said that it was forbidden. Gowasu said that it was outright impossible. The fac that Black got dragged back by the distortion closing seems to suggest that it's impossible, not just forbidden.
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What if Black is Zamasus' evil tea personified?

Plot twist: Zamasu actually served Gowasu BLACK tea all this time.
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Best girl.
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>>147115076
Did you forget the bit about new time rings being created when the timeline is split into new words? It wasn't outright stated, but it's obvious those rings are used to go to the other timelines.
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>>147115199
Universe 7 isn't in charge of Zumasu and the Godtuber. Their rings shouldn't be affected. It's just plain stupid how messed this whole arc is. And all thanks to Toei and Bandai.
Toriyama is putting a rope around his neck.
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>>147113943
>Cellfags in charge of being stupid
Cell sucks
Freeza>>>Buu>>>Cell
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>>147115197
She is dead, only generic asian girl now.
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>>147114103
>>147114531
the term is "Core people" (Shin-jin)
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>>147115197
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>>147114790
>shitposting in revved/barneyfag-style
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oh shit
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>>147115173
What if Zamasu stole Goku's semen and got himself pregant.
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>>147115648
I don't follow epic 4chin memes out of /a/, who the hell is barneyfag.
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>>147115703
a lolcow with a retarded agenda

his real name is Revved
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>>147115776
Tell me more.
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>>147115650
enjoy your tea anon
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>>147115199
Also your post is contradicted with the fact that if a future version of Zumasu traveled to the future and created Black because he met a future version of Goku, it means that there is another future version of U7, appart from FTrunks' as well as another FTrunks. Black and Zumasu should had went to that second future timeline.
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>>147114638
The present timeline doesn't affect the Future (as seen in the Cell Saga)

Present Zamasu will be die since they know what he's up too. But Future Zamasu and Black will still be in the Future
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>>147114845
Like Zamasu right?
Like how Gomasu LIED to Beeru's face about how chill Zamasu really ws.

>>147114938
Interacting with the past creates a new past, being an invisible undetectable existence in the past should be permitted if they are allowed to go to and interact with the future.

As a matter of fact interacting with the living world unless it's DESPERATELY needed should be 100% banned forever.

No wait, god should be completely banned from interfering with the domains of the lower gods unless it affects their domains directly.
And time should have some kind of god or existence who protects it and will slap someones shit/destroy alternate timelines if they become a threat to temporal order.
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>>147115813
http://x86x2.deviantart.com/
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>>147115891
Super animation looks so awful.

Look at how retarded "Goku" looks.
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"W-We're not just gonna watch Gowasu die, are we?"
>"Yes."
"Wha-?!"
>"Just watch."
>Gowasu dies to the poisoning of his tea.
>"Hm. Alright."
>With a few taps of his staff, Whiss, Beerus, Goku, Vegeta & Trunks travel backwards through time by five minutes.
>"Hop to it, boys. Beerus, could you please retrieve Gowasu?"
>"Retrieve?! Do I look like some terrier to you?!"
>"Take him to safety unharmed or else I'll see to it that there will be no more sweet treats for you."
>"WHAT?! OH FINE!"
>Whiss sighs to himself as he continues to ponder the mysteries before him.
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>>147115894
Spooky. What does this have to do with me?
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Zamasu need Gowasu's earrings (one at least) to use the time rings right? And since the dragon balls are currently on cooldown, he can only make a wish if he traveled to the future.

If so how in the fuck will he be able to get the earrings from Gowasu when Beerus and co are currently on his ass?
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>>147115908
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>>147115111
Nuh uh. Black going into the past was more then enough to create an alternate timeline.

It is more then possible it's doable, it's just that the rings seem to have a built in fail safe to drag the wearers back to the past not that the universe won't allow it.
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>>147115908
It's not animation, it's a single frame. Usually really good animation (which Super doesn't have, not saying it does) looks ridiculous in a single frame. It's about how the series of frames interact.

This pic is from a scene with great animation it looks totally retarded. You could have one frame consisting of some amazing classical artwork. It would be fantastic artwork but shit animation in the sense that it isn't animation at all.
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>>147116022
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>>147116074
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>>147116022
>>147116074
Notable that both of those older screencaps are from movies.

This is from an actual episode.
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>>147116074
>9gag
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>>147114790
>mfw when the mods ban this guy for shitting up every thread
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>>147116074
Not fair to compare a high budget movie with your typical weekly episode.
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>>147116156
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>>147116215
>Kai
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>>147116170
>>147116117
>>147116074
>>147116022
Meanwhile people with good taste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1StlQ-U1PvI

No wonder nobody likes DBS.
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>>147112221

It's not unlikely that you can't actually receive ANY wish, it's likely that you can't wish for anything that exceeds the power of the creator of the Super Dragon Balls, so omnipotence would be off the cards.

There's precedent for this with the regular Dragon Balls, just the creator of the Super Dragon Balls is way, way more powerful.
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>>147111260
>implying he isn't getting his very own transformation
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>>147116330
> cherry-picked examples from the Broadcast version of Episode 5
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>>147116411
It'd be interesting to see how powerful Dragon God Zarama is, so we can get an idea of the Super Dragon Balls limits
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>>147113465
He also gets to fuck Mai
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>>147116530
>he doesn't know about the cancelled level sets

What else can I expect from an underage DBS babby.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpRysAo5pU0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0vWx9VjGe0
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>>147116166
Has not happened yet, based mods hate feelshit too
.
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>>147116573
What does my post have anything to do with that?

Also I've been watching following dbz since '98 faggot
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>>147116827
Because you called them "cherrypicked" when nothing is edited at all. It's the official menu.
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>>147116827
People who like Super, can't like Dragon Ball and Z, didn't you know ;^)
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I want to fuck Launch.
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>>147116860
I was talking about the screenshots you were replying to
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>>147115947
you know how he comes in all triggered (i.e. "DIE YOU FUCKING BARNEYFAG!:) whenever some fuck post cropped horses from a random booru

you're doing the same thing, when an anon post a gowasu edit of wojak.
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>>147117282
Wojack is a form of shitposting, if they want to post dank epic feel maymays they can go to the /v/ DBS thread.
/a/ should be kept anime related, repetition is not funny or clever.
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>>147117360
>Wojack is a form of shitposting,
it's just a picture dude
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>>147117415
It is shitposting.
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>>147117448
it's just a picture
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>>147117448
Then report those posts if it bothers you so much and move on.
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>>147117522
It is shitposting.

>>147117556
I do.
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>>147117599
it's just a picture
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>>147117194
Same.
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>>147117194
who?
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>>147117863
Fuck you, Toriyama. You should had made another Arale remake instead of shitting on DB even more.
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>>147118005
you don't rike evil goku and god goku?

this is rhat fans ranted right?
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>>147117863
One of the best girls in the series
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>>147114340
>hinted
its called a red herring you faggot, its like you never watched a shounen, they are not going to tell you what happened several episodes before the reveal, they are going to give you confusing ideas that distracts you from the truth that is going to be the big surprise.

nine year old japanese boys can understand this and yet every faggot on /a/ is going batshit over this thinking that whis theory is somehow the truth
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>>147120900
Really though she's hot but she's a pretty nothing character. I'm pretty sure "forgetting" her was Toriyama's excuse to stop drawing her.
After he'd had her sneeze save them for a gag in the rr arc the most useful things she did in the entire series were clear a path through spectators and kick Kami in the ass. She really had nowhere to go as a character, especially once Tien was fading into the background as well.
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>>147107566
To bad because I explained perfectly well why exactly you are a moron
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>>147106952
>>147107566
He's right, faggot.
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>>147121789
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>>147109361
>Goku doesn't like Rooibos Tea
Shit taste goku.
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>>147121789
I don't even know who you're calling faggot in this post so I just assume it is the guy who calls DBZ edgy because it makes the most sense to me
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>>147115199

Why is Black's ring silver then, if alternate timelines are green? This means he can't be from the dragon Ball super timeline. He has to have originated in trunk's timeline.
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>tfw all western dbz media is dominated by Funimation dub
>will never get to have games with Ocean dub
It's hard being a britbong, we were brought up on Ocean dub and it was weird as fuck when we suddenly switched to Funimation dub for a few episodes and then went back to Ocean dub with a new Goku voice actor.
Ocean dubs Vegeta and Piccolo were godlike, Goku sounded more badass and less of an imbecile in both Ocean voices and every other character pretty much just sounded like the Funimation ones, I guess because Funimation dub was based on original Ocean.
I miss Kirby Morrow's Goku
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>when you realize original SSJ Goku was more ripped than USSJ Trunks

I wish we had the old art style back. This new shit is for fags and nu-males.
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Which Goku is best Goku?
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>>147121789
>Dbzfag triggered by a buzzword, goes full underage
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>>147122624
Black, not even a contest
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>>147122624
Kid Goku
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>>147122624
goten
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>>147122747
This is Kid Goku though
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>>147122624
> Bardock
Not Goku

> Turles
Raditz/Vegeta ripoff

> Ginyu-Goku
Honestly, pretty cool since the MC was fucked

> Black
Time-travelling God/ Beautiful Smuglord. Best Goku
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>>147122887
No, that's Black.
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>>147122979
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>>147122747
This.
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>>147122979
RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>147105743

Gine is canon.
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>>147113139

Heigh charts in most anime art books and etc use feet.
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Future Gohan will be revived and return to help defeat Black
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>>147104445
>watched

KEK animefag get the fuck out and never post here again
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>>147121255
Official Kaioshin plush when
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>>147105743
>princess snake
>canon

u retarded?
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>>147113398
the fights are literally the only good thing about dragon ball though.

Toriyama is god tier at fights.
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>>147124169
>smug as fuck deity of unknown age
>now he looks like a 10 year old child
I love how super never disappoints to deliver the disappointment.
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>>147124491
Blame Yamamuro for completely butchering Toriyama's designs
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>>147124415
>Toriyama is god tier at fights
>Toriyama being god tier at ANYTHING
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>>147124415
The humor is equally entertaining, as immature as it is.
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why is he so perfect?
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>>147124415
Anybody got any of those pics with a whole fight sequence from the manga in one tall image?
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>>147124779
>perfect
>a cat beat him
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>>147124779
I don't know anon, I just don't know.
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>>147124491
He has always been small and he was only smug when he first appeared.
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>>147112311
I find it funny how they suddenly decided to make him best buds with Beerus after 57 episodes of never talking to each other
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>>147113398
>The fillers added characterization between the fights.
>shit taste and delusional
Toriyama already did that himself. Toei didn't add much of note.
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>>147112221
Thats just Whis's assumptions.Considering how undramatic the reveal was I am expecting them to fully subvert it.
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>>147124415
>the fights are literally the only good thing about dragon ball though.
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>>147124538
Oh come on it's not just the designs. It's like most of the characters secretly got killed off after Z and have now been replaced by bad actors that barely even know the characteristics of the people they are trying to impersonate. Bulma seems to be one of the only survivors here and she probably has made her peace with it because things are going kinda well for her since then
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>>147124817
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>>147124838
who the fuck is kibito?
not even other universe kaioshins have a assistant
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>>147125054
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>>147124838
So you're telling me you spot absolutely no difference between Z and super?
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>>147122624
Best Goku is the original Goku copy doll Goku
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>>147125054
>>147125103
Aw yeah, thanks pal.

Read the manga, folks, it's the real shit.
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>>147124169
>we will never get a good supreme kai figure
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You know what they should do after this arc? Revive the fucking Saiyans with the dragon balls, I don't care who does it, it'll immediately make the series more interesting. Plus we need more Saiyan female ass.
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>Dubs and you'll drink this tea cup made by Zamasu, specially made for a ningen like you.
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>>147125345
We've already got universe 6 Saiyans now.
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>>147125380
They don't matter, or at least they are not the wild Saiyans we want.
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>>147125418
>we
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>>147125426
>Implying anyone wants pussy Saiyans
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>>147125418
The universe 6 saiyans are vastly superior to the universe 7 ones. They're more peaceful, stronger, cuter, and smarter. Literally better than them in every way except height.
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>>147125374
roll
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>>147125001
I want the chill seen-it-all-before Goku of the Cell and Buu sagas back.
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>>147125697
>Peaceful
Yes, so are Humans.
>Stronger
Nope, that guy was the strongest saiyan of universe 6 and he wasn't even a super saiyan before Vegetta shit talked him into it. The universe 7 saiyans would have eventually become SS because the rage necessary for SS is very achievable for savages like them and they were becoming stronger with time.
>Cuter
How is Gina not cuter? Also tails are cute.
>Smarter
Doesn't really help that much in this series unless you are Bulma.
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>>147113024
who's that beside goku?
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>>147125737
Sure. Dbz Goku had his fun moments and even moments when he seemed a little dumb but hell he sure knew when he had to pull his shit together to be the badass a good series needs. This parodie of a character we have today is just plain retarded nothing more nothing less.
>"hurr we go to the future to face this dangerous as fuck enemy that killed off Bulma and most of humanity but let me go take a shit first so that I can forget the magic beans ok guise?"
>"After one billion comes to billion right?"
>"We got our shit kicked in in the future but how about we go back guise lol fuck plans I know one of them is immortal but we got this I swear I'll even bring the beans this time"
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>>147126083
Paragus, Broly's father.
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>>147126083
Paragus
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Reminder that Toei's Goku is a flandarized version of the original and the DBS manga is superior to the anime.
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>>147126314
It doesn't matter if you animate a turd or just look at it on paper it still stays a steaming pile of turd.
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>>147126435
No one cares about your hemorrhoids anon.
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>>147126528
Is that so? Then how come last weeks episode looks exactly like the crap I took two weeks ago? I assure you someone is invading my privacy and they are making huge profit out of it
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Z/a/MASU!

WHERE'S MY TEA?
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>>147126701
>Then how come last weeks episode looks exactly like the crap I took two weeks ago?
Dementia?
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>>147104608
>liking 'May I Speak To A Manager' Bulma

Nigger come on.
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>>147126314
How many times are you going to spam this in every thread?

Goku is just as retarded in the manga, or do I need to post that chapter again?
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>>147127451
Just ignore him, anon. Don't fall for the shitposting.
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BoG (Movie) > Black to the Future > RoF (Movie) > U7 vs U6 Budokai >>>>>>>>>> Re:BoG > Re:RoF

I don't even consider the movie re-tellings canon.

As far as I'm concerned, it's basically Path to Power is to BoG+RoF but in reverse.
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>bleak future with Black ruining everyone's hairline
>resistance members dying everyday
>implying Mai didn't take out her pains and urges by having sex with Trunks to escape the pain
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>>147124538

No, blame Toriyama you fucking moron. Kaioshin was ALWAYS childlike in the original manga, it was Yamamuro who gave him more mature facial features in Z.

Design-wise, Toei has given Toriyama more command than ever with Super.
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>>147127451
>Goku is just as retarded in the manga,
Yeah no, dumbass
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>>147127562
>I don't even consider the movie re-tellings canon
They're not.
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>>147126314

>you will never have a pizza party with the gang
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>>147127562
>As far as I'm concerned, it's basically Path to Power is to BoG+RoF but in reverse.


I like your mind setting. This will be my new headcanon.
Until the day Toyotaro will draw RoF.
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>>147127734
>I don't like that one shot of comedic running that's present in EVERY anime with elements of humor so I'm going to use that to prove my point

Yeah no, dumbass.
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>>147127859
>that's present in EVERY anime with elements of humor
Watch more then 5 anime newfag.

>At Capsule Corporation, Bulma revives Goku and co. with some Senzu. She chews out Goku for leaving the bag behind in the bathroom.
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>>147127930
No, the entire point is that you haven't seen many anime at all.

Scenes of characters running in an exaggerated manner is extremely common, it's like an overused trope.
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>>147128011
>Watch more then 5 anime newfag.
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>>147127930
Learn how to spell "than", newfag.
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>>147125095
U6 does
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>>147127669
>Implying Mai isn't pure
>Implying she doesn't masturbate to Trunks every day instead
>When they do have vanillia sex in the missionary position Trunks will pour years and years of future saiyan seed into her womb, impregnating her insantly with triplets
>Implying everyone hasn't had sexual thoughts about Trunks at one point
>Goku, Bulma,Whis, Beerus, Present Trunks, you, and even Piccolo
>Implying I don't have semi-gay thoughts about Trunks

Step up nigga.
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>>147127844
>Until the day Toyotaro will draw RoF.
He already made an one-shot of RoF to promote the movie.
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>>147128057
>o-oh shit, I can't come up with a rebuttal so I better repeat the same mindless strawman I used before

You tried.
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>>147124779
I want to _______ Zamasu
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>>147127820
I just want to be part of "the group". Everyone looks so happy....why can't I be happy with them?
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>>147128106
A-anon, s-stop it I'm getting turned on.
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>>147128316
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>>147104165
I feel strongly that DBS Bulma should be an option.
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>>147128106
>Goku, Bulma,Whis, Beerus, Present Trunks, you, and even Piccolo
His grandma too.
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>>147128106
I want a Mai in my life really.

>>147128316
>>147128354
Also post Whis. It's not gay if it's a god
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>>147128138
Why come up with a rebuttal for a stupid argument like that? What you said wasn't true and even if it was, that doesn't fit Goku.
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>>147128354
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>>147128106
>Implying everyone hasn't had sexual thoughts about Trunks at one point

SHUT. UP.
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>>147128458
Panchy best grandma. Trunks should have hit that.

>>147128473
You'll find someone anon. I mean, she probably won't be pure big breasted woman that happens to be the same age as your mom to fulfill your mommy fetish while also still having her 30 year old body, but I'm sure you'll find someone out there.
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>>147129032
That's really endearing anon. Thank you babe.
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>>147128968
Nothin at all!
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>>147128316
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>>147129168
>Tfw no gf
>Tfw going without gf for the longest time
>Tfw race exterminated
>Jobbing again
>Finally got a perfect waifu
>But jobbing now my duty
>All this pain, it remains

Just hold me bros. I'-I'll get black next time.....next time
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>>147126528
I care about them.
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>m-m-m-m-muh flanderized goku!!!!
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>>147129194
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>>147129630
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>>147129620
Kids love their buzzwords. They just throw it in and around sentences to make up their argument.

>>147129651
What's an sjob? There are like eight urban definitions.
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>>147129739
>Its supposed to say "Mai Dominatrix's job".
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>>147129571
Gross

>>147129620
>reaching this hard
He was trained by a Cat before, plus he couldn't sense King Kai's god Ki.
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>>147129378
Fuck all that.
Just IMAGINE
IMAGINE getting cucked by your future self.
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>>147129795
Dominatrix Mai, I think I need to commission a doujin now

Alternatively....

S- job =Soap job or a hand job made with soap, when out of lotion.
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>>147130062
>Soap job to make sure they're both clean during the shower.

Ningen, I love how you think.
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>>147130007
Imagine losing your best friend to god; that must feel really shitty. How are you even supposed to compete?
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So are ningen, in this case, mortals? Because humans aren't a big factor, what with alien races and all.
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>>147130149
Goku remembered this piece of information all the way back from his childhood, yet forgot the Senzu during a bathroom break before going on an important mission.
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>>147130395
that was back when he was weak and had to outsmart his enemies
now he's just too strong so he doesn't need to think anymore
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>>147130134
Oh shit, I need a doujin of this.
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>>147130510
>he was weak and had to outsmart his enemies
What the fuck does that have to do with remembering shit outside of fighting?

>now he's just too strong so he doesn't need to think anymore
Go back to Bleach, Aizen.

>Being this much of Toei apologist
Whatever, the manga is better.
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>>147129819
>accuses me of reaching
>reaches extremely hard in the next post

Toriyama's Goku is a retard, quit whining about it like a petulant child and accept that fact.
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>>147130739
goku has brain damage and is getting older
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>>147129819
I just wanna chime in and say that I find it hilarious that you're using the scenes with Goku getting fooled into believing Monaka is super strong as a counterpoint while quoting a scene from DBZ where Goku believes Bubbles is super strong despite there being absolutely no basis for that other than "King Kai is at the end of Snake Way".

I also find it hilarious that you keep pushing this argument that Goku was flanderized when if anything Toei flanderized him in Z far, far more.
>>
ZAMASU
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>>147130575
Same, anon. Same.
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>>147130134
I imagine Mai as one of those girls that gets overprotective and motherly to whomever she loves, especially since she's about thirty years older than Trunks.

>Hearty home made meals and packed daily lunches with love notes
>Matching sweaters with each other's names sewn in
>Constantly praising you, every failure is met with optimism
>Does things for you that you can do yourself such as getting dressed, making your bed, fixing your hair
>Sleep together, bathe together, watch tv together
>Checking for temperature at the slightest sneeze
>Scolds you like a child occasionally and rubs your hair, almost condecendingly
>She thinks your occasional frustration is cute and notes every time you blush
>Tells you what to do like a mother but listen because you love and respect her
>Lots of hand holding, especially in public, walking across the street
>Sex every night but only in the missionary while she leads slowly, constant eye contact throughout
>Some evenings she reads to you and you fall asleep on her chest while she caresses your head

Hold me bros, the pain thinking of what I'll never have is setting in again.
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>>147126314
Reminder that you shouldn't be making arguments about flanderization when A.) you can't even spell the word, B.) your examples are all cherrypicked, and C.) there are plenty of scenes in the actual DBS manga where Goku goes full retard, and even a few scenes where he does that in the original DB manga as well.
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>>147131131
Stop, filthy ningen.
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>>147129620
I miss old Adult Goku from DB and the start of DBZ.
That one died after Saiyan saga.
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>>147130747
>reaches extremely hard in the next post
Except I'm not, I just remember shit about the series, unlike you who eats whatever shit Toei flings your way.

>>147130825
>Hurr hurr Goku so retarded because he have brain damage
People who say this are retarded. Goku was naive during the early stages of Dragon Ball because he was raised away from civilization not because he was dropped on his head, the only thing that did was change his personality.

>getting older
Or Toei just sucks.

>>147130970
>Goku getting fooled into believing Monaka is super strong as a counterpoint
Who said I was using it was a counterpoint?
I thought the file name would make it obvious, but apparently not. I'm complaining about Toei making Goku an asshole in that scene by dragging an unwilling Monaka like a rag doll.

>if anything Toei flanderized him in Z far, far more.
Yeah, no, with DBZ they had to follow the manga, here Toei only has Toriyama vague outlines.
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>>147131131
K-KONO NINGEN
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>>147131197
>you can't even spell the word
flanderized*


>your examples are all cherrypicked
They're not.

>there are plenty of scenes in the actual DBS manga where Goku goes full retard, and even a few scenes where he does that in the original DB manga as well.
Feel free to post them.
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Can the retard edgelord who hates the fact that Goku isn't a super serious silent lone wolf please kill himself?
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>>147131355
>I'm complaining about Toei making Goku an asshole in that scene by dragging an unwilling Monaka like a rag doll

He wasn't aware that Monaka was unwilling. Even then, his encounter with Bubbles is similar enough in that Goku has never been a good reader of situations unless it was literally spelled out for him.

>Yeah, no

Stop repeating this like a retard. DBZ didn't follow the manga, in fact there were some instances where they specifically altered Goku's canon dialogue in a CANON scene to make him sound more heroic than he actually was.

Are you even aware that Toriyama himself voiced concerns about it? Probably not. You also have no idea HOW vague his outlines are, so you're just talking out of your ass there.
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>>147131570
After you Toei apologist
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>>147131510
>Feel free to post them

I've already posted them in several threads in the past even when replying to that initial post you keep spamming every day, I'm not gonna keep spoonfeeding you only for you to ignore it every fucking time like a stubborn moron.

There are not many DBS chapters. Just read them.
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>>147131611
Not the guy you're replying to, but the only Toei apologist is the one who unironically believes Goku is a serious character.

I mean what are you even trying to accomplish by spamming your shit in every thread? Nothing's going to change on Toei's end and nothing's going to change here either, everyone's still gonna think you're a retard.
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>>147122624
>z goku and black have three spikes
black is goku's non retarded half, in the end of this arc, he fuses with black to become good old z goku
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Is Kaioshin the biggest and most retarded fuck in the history of Dragon Ball? Holy shit every single part of the Buu saga could be avoided if he didn't sacrifice Gohan or at least he could give himself to get his power absorbed instead of Gohan's. I love how he is such a fucking cuck in Super
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>>147131570
You have to forgive him because from what he's saying it sounds like he's either baiting, underage, and/or has never watched Dragon Ball. Everyone who's watched the whole series could tell you that Goku's most established trait is his stupidity. This was actually somewhat toned down for Z as it was more serious content and his behavior needed to suit it more. For people in America who grew up watching dubbed Dragon Ball, it was even worse because the dubbed version edited the series to make it even more action based. So now that Super is airing and airing with original themes, music, dialogue, and va's, you have all these people watching it claiming that Goku's character and voice actor are "ruined" or "not fit" when really they are just ignorant to what they real series was always like.
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>>147131974
ZAMASU
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>>147131605
>He wasn't aware that Monaka was unwilling.
Are you retarded? The fact that Goku has to drag him should be enough to tell he's unwilling.

>Goku has never been a good reader of situations unless it was literally spelled out for him.
Pic related

>DBZ didn't follow the manga
Yes, it did retard, sure there was filler, but the majority of it was straight from the manga.

>Are you even aware that Toriyama himself voiced concerns about it?
Well, that's his fault for putting most of that in the manga.

>You also have no idea HOW vague his outlines are
Vague enough that the DBS anime and manga have various differences.

>>147131686
>No argument
I accept your concession.

>>147131782
>but the only Toei apologist is the one who unironically believes Goku is a serious character.
Retard, how am I a Toei apologist if I'm shitting on them? Also carefree=/=the retarded ass Goku we have in the DBS anime
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>>147131990
>never watched Dragon Ball.
>watched
Fuck off animefag
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You know what makes me laugh every fucking time without fail? That scene in Battle of Gods where Goku gains a surge of power while he's busting through all that rubble and he shouts "iwontletyoudestroymyworld!" or some shit like that. Like the translation just didn't flow well into english lol.
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>>147129170
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>>147132178
>The fact that Goku has to drag him should be enough to tell he's unwilling.

It SHOULD be enough. And yet Bubbles, who was talking like a monkey, walking like a monkey, acting like a monkey, and for all intents and purposes being a fucking monkey STILL wasn't enough to clue him in on the fact that Bubbles obviously wasn't King Kai.

It's not like Monaka was kicking and screaming, exactly. You're just a dumbass who can't properly comprehend scenes and contexts.

>Pic related

Pic unrelated. Goku didn't actually figure out Shen's identity until long into the fight, and even then it's one of the only scenes in the manga where Goku exercises some degree of analysis outside of battle.

>Yes, it did retard, sure there was filler, but the majority of it was straight from the manga

Retard, the point was that if there's filler that provides dialogue for Goku that is specifically and explicitly contradictory to his established character in Toriyama's manga, as Toei so often did in Z, then it's not following the manga. If there are filler scenes that directly conflict with information we're given from the author, it's not following the manga then either.

>Well, that's his fault for putting most of that in the manga.

No, that's your fault for not actually paying attention to the differences between the anime and the manga.

>Vague enough that the DBS anime and manga have various differences

Holy shit, are you actually this dumb?

You do realize that the manga's pacing is so abrupt that many otherwise pivotal scenes are outright skipped, right? You can't use that as a basis for judging what was in the outline, and unless you actually HAVE the outline you're spouting a bunch of baseless speculation.
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>>147132692
now confirmed: the most autistic thread on /a/
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>friendly reminder that arale defeated Cell in ONE. PUNCH


then again she's arale, nonetheless I enjoy that little shenanigan
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>That Mai's high pitched voice when Trunks arrives
D'awwww
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>>147126314
Just wait 'till funimation fixes it.
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>>147133314
when? which arrival?
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>>147133420
Episode 56 when Trunks goes back to the future with Goku and Jobgeta
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>>147132377
Nice, you can't refute me so you pick a word out of my paragraph and twist it to try and make me look stupid and then insult me. Watched/read*, doesn't matter because most people originally watched Dragon Ball anyway. Assuming you're an American (best case scenario as other countries had even less chances to read the full manga), it started airing in America around 2001 to 2003. The manga was released from 2003-2004. Since you weren't even in the 1st grade by then, you don't know how hard it was to find and collect all the parts to even read a full series. Whether you had a subscription to Shonen Jump or bought the individual releases from Viz, the process of reading the manga was just cumbersome and inefficient. Also back then I don't even remember how much each volume was but I'm sure it was more than the average price of $12 per volume now. Broadcast dubbed anime was the cheapest, usually first, and most reliable way regular people enjoyed these series at the time. VHS tapes were in use too but only really use by dedicated fans. The bulk of people accessed these series through television.
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So what can Vegeta possibly do now? Train harder? It's clear that Black and Zamasu is a league above him.

Probably coming up with a new saiyan color. Maybe Super Saiyan Cobalt
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>>147133995
Give up and let Future Trunks take his place
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>>147133995
Vegeta's taken the mentor/veteran/father figure/jobber/cute slut/ supporting/prince that doesn't do much role
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>>147133995
They will achieve the true super saiyan form.

WAITO
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>>147126314
why do the people who say "the manga is superior to the anime" post them niggerstream scans?
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>>147132178
>Retard, how am I a Toei apologist if I'm shitting on them?

Because Toei made Goku a more serious character than Toriyama intended him to be? Holy shit this is common knowledge you fucking mongoloid.

How underage are you?
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>>147133995
are you implying goku is somehow stronger than vegeta?
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>>147134351
"N-NO MY EYEESSSSSS"

Every time.
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>>147134351
Big Bang Kame hame ha was pretty badass, all right.
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>>147134351
ZAMASU
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>>147134351
Reminder of what? How shitty GT was?
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>>147134351
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god i want zamasu to fuck me
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>>147131956
he is cute
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>>147135705
No, Anon.
Zamasu wants only to be fucked.
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>>147126083
Gohan
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Why did these threads end up so gay?
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>>147136783
Because Whis
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>>147136783
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>>147132692
>STILL wasn't enough to clue him in on the fact that Bubbles obviously wasn't King Kai

Like I said before Goku was trained by Karin a fucking Cat, hell Dragon Ball in general has lots of weird animal shit Oolong and Puar, the mayor, Beerus etc. Even if it was navie, it isn't comparable to forgetting the Senzu nearly costing them their lives, acting like a child in regards to Beerus warning about the King of All and acting like he has ADHD.

>It's not like Monaka was kicking and screaming, exactly.
You're retarded, if you have to drag someone, then you are obviously going against their will and Monaka was screaming you fool.

>Pic unrelated.
No, definitely Pic related. You said
>Goku has never been a good reader of situations unless it was literally spelled out for him
and my pic proved you wrong deal with it retard. Hell have another pic related

>Goku didn't actually figure out Shen's identity until long into the fight
It's almost like he was focusing on studying Piccolo or something. Besides, he knew something was off about him before he figured it out.

>Retard, the point was that if there's filler that provides dialogue for Goku tha
Read my post next time retard.
>Yes, it did retard, sure there was filler, but the majority of it was straight from the manga
>majority

>No, that's your fault for not actually paying attention to the differences between the anime and the manga.
Feel free to point out these out of character moments Toei added.
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>>147120900
Can't believe Tien didn't tap that. What a faggot.
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>>147137162
>Holy shit, are you actually this dumb?
No, but clearly you are. You don't know if the manga has skipped anything other than RoF so fuck off. Besides, there are still many differences between things that happen in both the anime and manga
like >>147129079 in the manga Goku didn't need Vegeta to tell him to use his head, Botamo having a rubber body in the manga, whereas in the anime he has some space-time shit, Hit's improvement, SSB Kaioken vs SSG, how both established the God of Destruction and Kaioshin link etc.
Pay attention retard.

>>147134314
>Because Toei made Goku a more serious character than Toriyama intended him to be?
Yet all my posts reference the original manga not the DBZ anime. Pay attention retard.
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Holy shit. Why is Goku such a manchild in super?

>indirectly caused doom to the future after picking a fight with a ningen-hater
>he will keep doing that whenever he sees someone strong
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>>147132377
>that fag who pretends his first exposure to Dragon Ball wasn't dubbed Z on toonami or his local equivalent

oh fuck off, m8
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when does the new super manga chapter come out?
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>>147137836
Probably next week.
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>>147137664
A thousand times this
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>>147104532
ZAMASU
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>>147139243
what if Gowasu is Black
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>>147139421
He's Captain Yellow.
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>godtube
>tfw you realize that there are kaioshin in other universes streaming, making LP or uploading videos they think it's funny

Well, seems like it's back to being a gag comic.
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>>147140738
source ?
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>>147137162
>Feel free to point out these out of character moments Toei added

Not that guy but you have to be new if you aren't familiar with Goku's countless OOC moments in all the DBZ movies and filler scenes.

Actually scratch that you're definitely new and probably underage as well, you're the faggot who keeps spamming "flanderize" like it's your personal buzzword to prove a half-baked point that not even Toriyama agrees with apparently.
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>>147106952
>the meaning of the buzzword
>buzzword
>meaning

Retard.
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>>147137162
>
Like I said before Goku was trained by Karin a fucking Cat, hell Dragon Ball in general has lots of weird animal shit Oolong and Puar, the mayor, Beerus etc.

Are you illiterate? Honest question.

None of these characters walk, talk, and act like the animals they're based off of, and if they do it's only very loosely. Bubbles was literally just a monkey that didn't even appear to be capable of human speech from the fucking get-go and Goku was too retarded to realize that.

Implying that this...

>Even if it was navie, it isn't comparable to forgetting the Senzu nearly costing them their lives, acting like a child in regards to Beerus warning about the King of All and acting like he has ADHD

..is even remotely comparable to not being able to recognize an animal incapable of humanoid speech/mannerisms despite having been raised around them for his ENTIRE CHILDHOOD is just you being a fucking idiot. While we're at it, and since you still can't admit that Toriyama's Goku had retarded moments, how many more straws do you plan to grasp at?

>You're retarded, if you have to drag someone, then you are obviously going against their will and Monaka was screaming you fool.

Again, the scene makes it extremely clear that Goku was completely oblivious to Monaka being too afraid to fight him. I don't know why you're so incapable of comprehending basic interactions but if I had to wager a guess I'd say it's probably because you're either underage or severely autistic.

>It's almost like he was focusing on studying Piccolo or something

It's almost like you don't pay attention or something. He spent a large portion of that fight pandering over who Shen was, retard.

>Feel free to point out these out of character moments Toei added

Every scene in every film and filler segment where Goku is acting heroic. Literally any one of them would suffice, and I don't even need to spoonfeed you because they're everywhere.
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>>147134351
Do you have any gifs/webms of the Super 17 fight?
That was fucking hilarious too.
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WHY WAS THERE NO EPISODE ON SATURDAY?
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>Krillin still calls his waifu "18"

Seriously, I know she has lost most of her memories, but can't he give her a new name when they got married?
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>>147141981
Her and 17 both have names, Lapis and Lazuli respectively. They were humans before Gero got a hold of them and turned them into Cyborgs.
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>>147142102

And pretty much both of them forgot their past thanks to Gero's meddling, so they obviously forgot their own name as well.

Still, with their ire against Gero, I'm surprised they still refer to each other as the number given by the guy they hated.
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>>147141981

They just identify with the newer names more?
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>>147142152
Even still, I'm sure they might be able to trace their past back in some way.
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>>147142163

What newer name? Krillin still calls her "18" in front of Trunks.
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>>147142241

18, for one reason or another they prefer to go by that name, they might not identify with their old names anymore.
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>>147142152
>Still, with their ire against Gero, I'm surprised they still refer to each other as the number given by the guy they hated.
Its the same reason black people refer to each other as nigger
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So lets say Gohan had actually been kidnapped by Raditz, but still had the same power growth that we saw of him.

What would become of him by the time of the Buu Saga, when he's Adult Gohan with SSJ2? This is on the note that he's still been training all those years, and we'll assume the Z-Fighters did manage to overpower Cell somehow.

Would Gohan end up coming back to Earth eventually or would he and Uncle Raditz just be running around in space? Or would they have made a turn like Vegeta due to the events on Namek with Frieza and all banded together as Saiyans?

Would you guys have preferred if Gohan had been more like Raditz and become a Warrior akin to typical Saiyan nature over what we actually got?
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>>147104165
At least one of these.
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>>147128135
Yeah but is not finished.
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>>147122624
You forgot Kid Goku, Goten, Goku GT and Goku Jr.
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>>147122571
this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q01OpzYgBc
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>>147142358
they do that ironically
it's more like most black people still use their slave name
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There is a new thread
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>>147132454
https://youtu.be/Z2Zmo4ZhIs4?t=5187
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>>147142748

Gohan would have been killed. The first thing we got from Vegeta was genociding Earth purely because of the half breed potential.

That was one of the reasons he came to earth. The other was the dragonballs.

Unless Raditz went solo, Gohan was fucked.
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>>147140869

The only OOC shit in Z with Goku is the entire American heroic Goku. Goku fighting to be heroic has NEVER been a thing. EVER.

The closest we ever got was King Piccolo where Goku fought him as an avenger. He didn't do it to save the millions King Piccolo was going to kill. He didn't do it to avenge all the ones Piccolo had killed.

He did it because Krillin got killed. I dont even remember if Goku knew Roshi was dead at that point either. I just remember his primary motive for fighting Tambourine and Piccolo was MUH KRILLEN and nothing more. He didn't even give a fuck about the 4 star ball at that point despite his entire Red Ribbon saga being about him getting the 4 star ball back and them trying to take it.
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>>147120900
>>147137202
>Can't believe Tien didn't tap that. What a faggot.
he only loves training
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>>147104445
>doesn't know the difference between digitally drawn animation and drag-n-drop flash

>>>/co/
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>>147105596
Who are the bottom corners?
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>>147147548
Goten's girlfriend from GT and Selypa
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Goku-sa!
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>>147147970
>Selypa
Who?
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>>147131131
>This entire post
>you will never be in a relationship like this
>not even the sweater part
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>>147104899
>Literally: *teleports behind you* *unsheathes sword* nothing personnel kid
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>>147137202
He fucks his white doll friend
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>>147148379
Hit did it first
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>Be Zamasu
>Get visitors from uni 7 right before you assassinate Gowasu
>Manage to get them to leave without raping you

Do you:
>Kill Gowasu right after they leave and hope they don't catch you in time
>Bide your time for a thousand years until all suspicions are gone
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>>147105596
>not picking Lunch.
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