>build a STR base character >make it a ranger Why

>>146186994
I don't think you understand the strength required to be a good archer
archers throughout time have been fucking built, especially longbowmen

>>146186994
Longbow / crossbow = strength
Shortbow / standard bow = dex / agi

If you played RPG's you'd know this.

>>146186994
>Bitches dont know about my composite bows

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>>146186994
>that pose
HNNNG Yume. Mary still best girl tho.

>>146186994
Is that a proper bow stance? I think the bow string will at least graze the knee.

>>146186994
fuck you I do wat I want

>>146187121
it's not, and either that's a pathetically weighted bow, or she's incredibly strong to pull it from that kind of a pose

>>146186994
>that pose
>that glove
hope she enjoys missing skin on her knee and the muscles being ripped off her arm when she lets go.

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>>146187175
>>146187318
>they don't know yume is the second strongest in the group beg¡hind moguzo

She ain't ripping shit.

Is it ok to have a waifu who is stronger than you?

>>146187538
it would be kinda difficult to waifu a lot of anime girls if it weren't

>>146187538
>waifu that can protect herself from the dangers of faceless fat old men
>a bad thing
Well, if you like NTR and/or cuckold.

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>>146187538
You just have to bear with pegging.

>>146187538
How else are you going to make snu-snu?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgg9WpW7s8s

Yes, this is as gay as it looks

>>146187417
>Strength
Has nothing to do with wrong shooting posture. She is going to rip the skin off her leg and arm firing like that.

>>146187063
supposedly all the levy longbowmen used by the English army had crazy trapezius muscles and their arms were freakishly warped

iirc they only really a few years in active duty before they couldn't keep it up any more

the anime archetype of bishounen/shoujo female archers is really weird

>>146186994

Sword and Board rangers.

>>146187863
>the anime archetype of bishounen/shoujo female archers is really weird

It's not anime. It's fucking D&D bullshit where characters with 10 Str can use longbows like if they were 20lbs kid bows.

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>build a STR based character
>make it a mage

>>146187863
Mongol archers had extremely high draw-strength bows too. They had a special grip too, they held the bowstring with their thumb and it took an entire lifetime of training to even pull the bow string back.
I think they were equivalent to longbows in terms of draw strength, but smaller. The bows were made of animal tendons and shit.
Mongols were really fucking good at making bows, steppe peoples have always been making the best bows in the world. Their recurve bows are insane.
It's part of the mongol military dominance, they had archers so good that you just couldn't defend against it

>>146188037
Dex is STR :^)

True, but DnD is so pervasive in its influence of the fantasy genre and anime/JRPGs have really run with it

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>>146188047
>Not having your wizard to cast punch as his ultimate spell.

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>>146186994
>petite japanese girl that's probably 40 kg and 1,60m tall
>"STR base character"

>>146186994
in 3rd ed, str based rangers were the SHIT, they got more and more overpowered the higher level they got. if you want to see something really broken work out a lvl.13 ranger-lvl.7 weapon master; str based, dual wielding scimitars.

all types of broken there.

>>146188049
it's because horse archers were bullshit to start, and they added bows and that could put arrows through metal like crossbows could while riding full retreat

>>146188130
>muh realism on animu

>>>/out/

>>146188149
>rangers
>broken
>any martials
>broken

>>146188047
I've done this. I usually make STR/INT for shit and giggles.
I've also done INT/DEF for tank wizards.

>>146188329
That's okay though. The problem comes when you dump INT and DEX, and make your character a mage whose main attack is throwing that axe.

>>146188157
The mongol army was 100% bullshit OP, totally.
They were the ultimate army, and could beat any army fielded before around 1905.
Maybe up to 1914.

I'd say they were bullshit good enough to beat semi-automatic rifles.

>>146188468
I've had a mage in games have 25k HP, 300k MP and equip a sword and shield just bash newbs in low level places while wearing little to no armor or shitty starter equipment..

>>146188468
Playing a character who has through chance, parental demands or stubborn dedication to his childhood dreams ended up practicing a profession he is completely unsuited for can be fun. Not necessarily in a relatively serious game where other PCs are actually cometent at what they do, of course.

>>146188668
Yeah, because cavalry sure was useful in WWI.

>take a screen shot from an anime
>shit post on /a/ with it

Why is this allowed?

>>146187738
Them being stronger than you actually makes it more likely that you'll get NTRed. So many NTR scenarios begin with the wimp having his protective waifu get stolen away from him by his bully.

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>necromancer
>wearing any armor

>>146188956
yuu needs to wear her armor or she will get head booboo

>picked up FFXIV because of Grimgar
>no actual waifus except for guys who want to ERP as girls
>lost interest

>>146186994
A bow strong enough for warfare requires more strength than a longsword.

>>146188956
>necromancer
>isn't skeleton
Why this shit is legal?

>>146188047
muscle wizard are op as fuck

>>146188956
Diablo2 did it right. Full plate necro armor made out of bones.

>>146187075
>crossbow = strength
>semi-automated mechanism
>strength required

Lots of japs already got the newest volume of Grimgar. Seems like it was narrated by the team members and there's next to nothing from Haru's point of view.

>>146186994
that fucking background holy shit.

>>146188764
>trench warfare

>>146191733
Doesn't change the fact that cavalry were still useless. Mongol horse archers aren't going to do shit against a defense line massed with machine guns and barbed wire.

>>146191733
with cavalry stupidity, memetext-kun

>>146188668
>before 1905
This is some next level memeing shit. No they bloody well couldn't, and you know it.

>>146188956
>not wearing enchanted armor

>>146186994
>implying you don't need dex to be a fighter and str to be an archer

>>146186994
this show needs a second season, like yesterday.
I enjoyed a show where everyone wasn't OP

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>>146188956
>necromancer
>not moving exclusively with a skeleton palanquin

>build an int base character
>make it a necromancer

Why is this allowed?

What game are you guys talking about?
Go to >>/v/

>>146188329
STR INT works in Dark Souls.

>>146192431
You are kind of in the business of redirecting people, don't you?

I mean, that's not even the right board.

>>146192520
I was trying hard to fit in but I'm not doing it right. Are you talking about >>>/vg/ then?

>>146192555
Here, I'll show you:
>>>/tg/

>>146192555
Yeah, word for the wise, lurk for two months before posting.

>>146192569
Board games don't have strength agility and shit. Aren't you guys talking about dota or league?

>>146192702
Stop, you are only making things worse.

>>146192702
Fucking 2000 kids.

>>146192702
Jesus Christ, have you never heard of Dungeons and Dragons?

>>146192702
>Board games don't have strength agility and shit.
What kind of pleb board games do you play?

>>146190235
It ain't gonna pull itself, bitch

>>146192702
>people who don't know where "Role Playing Game" come from

Holy shit.

>>146192936
>>146192797
>>146192743
>replying to the most obvious bait
/tg/ never fails to live up to its name

>>146192797
Yeah it's what all the cartoons on cartoon network used to talk about. But I didn't know this stuff

>>146188037
D&D at least has to contend with balance. Anime is perfectly happy relegating women to ranged attackers just because.

>>146187863

>The anime archetype of bishounen/shoujo female archers is really weird

Yea they only do this in anime. You're retarded.

>>146192743
Sorry I'm 21 but not white. I never played that game because it wasn't in my country.

>>146193352
>D&D at least has to contend with balance
HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

>>146193352
Girls can't into close combat where they risk injury. Girls are 3 times more likely to get injured during sports which shows they aren't built for physical stuff.

>>146193352
>DnD
>balance
This niggah

>>146190235
crossbows are hard as fuck to pull back m8, to the point where you hold them on the ground with your feet and pull it back with both arms

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Guys its 2016, why are you still summoning your skeletons equipped with swords?

>>146187863
Not freakishly warped, but enough to leave telltale signs in the skeletons for the archaeologists.

Then again, they find people with clear signs in their skeletons of swinging swords and shit around a lot from an early age, "little leaguers elbow" as a baseball player of today would know it.

The rise of keyboard, mouse and cellphone (thumb!) will all be easily visible to future archaeologists.

Your skeleton is continuously renewed like almost everything else in your body, and while it's a bit slower it responds to strain and training and injury just like muscle and sinew does, only here the scars stick around for a lot longer. Any strenuous activity, or for that matter the absence of any such, affects it.

So while the longbowmen had their skeletons affected, everyone who did or does anything a lot suffers the same fate.

>>146194052
>>146187863
Why did you put extra spaces between sentences, you attention whoring faggots?

>>146188668
>before 1905
Please be fucking kidding

After the collapse of the mongol empire they didn't just disappear. They split into different hordes, the Golden Horde, White Horde, Chagatai Khanate and the Yuan dynasty etc believe it or not but they didn't survive until 1905, Moscow actually defeated them in 1380, WHILE outnumbered.

>>146188956
>necromancer
>wearing any armor
Tang'Owls, m8.

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>>146186994
Str Ranger is a real thing.
Do you think the iconic Ranger, Aragorn, had more Strength or Dex? The real problem is people these days ignore that Rangers are supposed to be beastly at close-range fighting and masters of a few melee weapons and pretend they're just snipers.

What make's a Ranger a fuckin Ranger is they can fight a bear with a longsword, fell a deer with a bow, have high endurance, can track anything, and are just as proficient at surviving in the wilderness as any city-dweller is at surviving in their own home.

>>146194684
Warriors are way better archers anyways, with all the extra feats

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>>146188047
>half-dragon wizard has INT as her dumpstat and puts all her points in STR
Damedame Dragons has the best builds.

>>146194408
The mongol army didn't really exist when they split up.
When I say the Mongol army, I mean Chinggis'.
The united one. The problem with the steppe peoples in general is that they're super hard to unite.

>>146194812
I dunno. Colossus Slayer and Hunter's Mark are pretty god tier.
Rangers get a similar number of extra attacks per turn as they level, plus that extra d6 every shot, and Fighters just get either Maneuvers or that Champion shit like "you crit on 19s or 20s now".

Actually, fuck, Second Wind and Actions Surge >>> Favored Enemy and Favored Terrain, so you're right.

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>>146188105
>ultimate spell is a lovetap so full of love and emotion that it causes angsty lovecraftian ayy lmao ghosts to fucking explode
That being said, HC is GOAT.

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>Be only mage in the party
>Specialize on debuffs

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>>146195144
Jesus, have mercy.

For what is worth she can be sitting back sucking on her tits, I'd still add her to my party.

>>146193352
Mages are ultra balanced

>>146195144
But debuffs are the right way to play as mage. Evocation is for faggots.

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>>146187417
Well, my dady told me, how to not do that, by using someone else's mouth.

>>146193874
Because RPGs aren't cheap enough.

>>146195144
>>146195249
You fuckers ain't never heard of God Wizards?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IeOXWvbkmQ3nEyM2P3lS8TU4rsK6QJP0oH7HE_v67QY/edit

Why hit an enemy for 20 damage when you can debuff it so your whole party can hit it for an extra 10-20 each?

Why bring a healer or waste mana on healing spells when you can cripple the enemy so they can't do damage, wall the enemy off so they can't do damage, or give your ally wings so the enemy can't touch them and thus can't do damage?

Control casters are the best.

>>146186994
>Not building STR
>Low damage crits

PLEBS WILL DEFEND THIS.

What is everyone referencing here? I don't play video games.

>>146195144
B-but MUH EXPLOSION

>>146196495
Let me guess, that's 3.x, right?

>>146196502

they are showing off the power levels of their virginity so don't mind it

>>146196504
meant for >>146195310

>>146196524
5e version. Though there's definitely a pathfinder edition out there that came before it. Not sure about 3.x or 4e.

>>146187538
Bruh, gender in in anime/manga/VNs/LNs/WNs is purely cosmetic, and that's just talking Jap fiction, so no, it's not wrong.

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>>146186994
From the actual game

>>146188130
Gender is cosmetic in fiction.

>>146196524
You didn't even open the link? It says 5th edition right in the title.

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>>146188956
What's wrong with that? Are you confusing necromancers for liches?

>>146196542
>using virgin as a insult
>on fucking 4chan
>on fucking /a/

>>146193874
is that from Arms Peddler?

>>146196696
>>146196524
And yeah, it does say it's adapted from a 3.5 original guide.

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>>146188956
?

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>>146195144
Just give her a shield instead.

>>146194684

Aragorn is Dex/Endurance.

His stamina is insane, his skill proficiency is also quite up there.

>>146194243

It's called a paragraph you uneducated mong.

>>146186994
merry is best girl and will win

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>>146186994
>Not being a STR ranger
Do you even crush evil?

>characters use medieval weaponry
>near never have armor
>if there is any you could barely call it functional

>>146197358
When you're playing rocket tag armor barely does anything.

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>>146196797

>this insecure over banter

how many years since your last outing from your house?

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>>146197358
I say they're perfectly functional.

>>146197496
Epic bantz m8.

>>146197155

What about two shields?

>>146197540
That's not mage.

>>146197358
The weapons are just for show. Adventurers are all perverts who want to have sex with monsters, and armor would just get in the way.

>>146197496
>>>/out/

>>146194243
Makes things easier to read so people with 60 IQs like you can notice them better.

>>146186994
I just can't believe she fights on the front lines when she could have been picking them off one-by-one with her bow.

>>146186994
You need strength in order to tense a larger and harder bow. Learn real life bro.

>>146198406
Aiming too hard, easier to gut stuff with a kukri.

>>146198406
I can, she's a retard. She literally chose her job because she wanted a fucking puppy.

>>146197358
>medieval setting
>Average adventurer even being able to afford full-plate much less be trained in it's use and wear it all fucking day

>>146186994
What happened after ep6? I dropped because show was really boring.

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>>146198700
Maybe when they stop being scrubs and git gud.

>>146198730
They did more questing and picked up another team member.

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>>146198518
>Aiming too hard, easier to gut stuff with a kukri.
Tell that to Manato and Mary and Haruhiro after they got sniped due to a ranger out of their reach

>>146198238
It looks like shit.

>>146197205
Those aren't paragraphs you mongoloid, they're just sentences which shouldn't be split like that.
If you want to talk about something slightly different, use next line but usually there's no need for free space.

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>>146198730
>did more questing
>picked up a replacement cleric
>avenged their dead cleric
>avenged their new cleric's dead party
>killed a high bounty team-wiping boss and got fat paid

Still waiting on word of a S2.

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>>146198884
Pop pop makin' niggas drop

>>146186994

I've seen this thread before.

>>146192259

Just go watch some older fantasy series. There are a fucking ton of them.

>>146198975
>did more questing
More like, grinding.

>>146186994
Because not one of them have played a game where character statistics actually matter.

Just face it. We're old.

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>>146193352
>>146188037
>>146187863
Reminder that this shit dates back to at least fucking Narnia, where little girls can be competent archers and get their bows fucking fucking Santa.

>>146202062
It's also probably more responsible for Isekai as a universal genre than something like Alice in Wonderland or other similar titles of old.

Thanks, CS Lewis. You fucking faggot.

>>146202260
With Gulliver's Travels Isekai probably outdates fantasy as genre, unless you count mythology.

>all this shit about needing str to shoot arrows
Please. My Dad sits on his ass all day and can still hit a deer from 100 yards away pretty easily. Being an archer does not require much, if any strength. There is even child hunting bows sold in most hunting stores.

If you are a retard and want to try to shoot 50 lb arrows with a 400 lb bow (which is inefficient and retarded as fuck >>146201797
), then yeah, I guess maybe you'd need more strength for that kind of ranger. You won't hit anything though, because idiots can't hit anything. Use a siege ballista next time.

>>146202575
What is the pull of your father's bow? Either it won't kill bigger game or he is way stronger than you give him credit for.

Also note that some war bows have enough power to punch through steel armour so they require significantly more strength than lighter hunting bows.

>>146202561
Yeah, but I mean Isekai as standardised in anime (and some other popular media) now. It's an ancient concept, but the idea of modern day kids going into a 'stereotypical fantasy' land and becoming great heroes with medieval weapons just screams Narnia as a core basis.

>>146202575
>modern composite bows
Idiot

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>>146193682
>>146190235
>>146187075

Get with the times you primitive shits.

>>146187803
You tell me what this is right now

>>146202575
The man has not spent his entire life sitting on his ass if he's actually shooting at deer and using a bow.

t.man who sits on his ass all day

>>146189847
How's the late 90's treating you?

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>>146201559
Fair point. In the LNs they've long since progressed to questing.

>>146203160
I've only read up to volume 4 I believe. When their new tank(ish) member arrives and they fight the bone guy with a naginata?. Also, I believe Mary gets massively drunk and felt up and maybe has the tip of some guy's penis inserted before the new tank saves her.

I eagerly await team renji's thief training Haurhiro with new skills

>>146197284
Boo go for the eyes! the eyes!

>>146202575
There's a difference between modern bows with hunting arrows and ancient warbows with heavy arrows meant to fly longer distances, penetrate mail and kill people.

See https://youtu.be/j3OIjpLSaYQ

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>>146203915
That's not all who want to teach Haruhiro new things. Mary even gets to teach him how to be a backstabbing traitorous cunt.

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>>146193874
>file name

>>146204400
Ranta had it coming. And he is the one who decided not just run away when Haruhiro offered it. He insisted on fighting to the death for some stupid reason.

Any spoilers for the newest volume?

>>146198700
Armor is not hard to wear unless you're in a hot climate.

>>146205704
Its fucking heavy

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>>146205588
Revisionist historian, please. Haru showed up and picked that fight, Ranta had no choice but to accept it if they both wanted to try and get out of there. Then Haru stabbed him and left him because that vile whore sold Ranta out and lied about what happened to them while they were captive because she knew she could get Haru to turn on Ranta if she played the victim card.

Mary apologists need to fucking burn.

>>146206279
Wait Ranta was killed? Dropped

>>146206101
It's not that heavy, and the weight is distributed across the whole body.

https://youtu.be/q-bnM5SuQkI

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I want to marry this slut and make her an honest woman!

>>146206370
I want her to make me a dishonest man

>>146206335
Not killed. Just injured. He'll be back as a true dark edgy knight to try an exact revenge. But Haruhiro will realize his mistake and offer him true friendship, cleansing his dark heart and become good ole annoying Ranta again.

>>146189280
Scans out? Where did you find this?

>>146206370
>>146206563
I want her to teach me the spider skill by practicing it on my dick

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>>146188047
melee wizard best wizard. I've run tons of them in d&d

In Mononoke Hime there was this scene where the protagonist pulled the string so hard with his cursed arm that the arrow could sever limbs and heads clean.

New volume summary when?

>>146202575
The Silver Knights aren't retarded as fuck.

>>146208248
The Silver dudes were fun, shooting swords is fun, and there's the guy that shot spears at dragons while blind.

>>146208248
Tell that to my Havel's greatshield. They couldn't do shit.

Just complementing those two anons with some more trivias
>>146187863
>Actually, english archers, more specifically Long Bows had just one huge arm, the one that pulled the string.
>English LongBows can be 2.10cm tall, but there are some even bigger
>They could fire six arrows/minute

>>146188049
>Mongol archers could fire at incredible long distances
>Some say they could hit a target over 500m away from them
>They had a training to only fire when all their horse's hoofs were out of the ground

The mongol archer draw the string differently than a "normal archer"
>While a normal archer draw with his index and middle finger
>Mongols drew with their thumb

Also Also
>Brazilian Indians shoot while lying on the ground for more stability
>And to shoot birds/increase range they supported the bow with their two feet and drew the string with two hands

>>146211563
2.10m tall* (6'8)
Goddamit

>>146211563
>>They had a training to only fire when all their horse's hoofs were out of the ground

Historical fantasy mongolian manga when? Inb4 otoyo

>>146211998
Theres one but not much about the mongol.

>>146211998
Kingdom have something about mongols or some shit right?

>>146188047
Retarded dragon girls had it right.

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>>146211998
Read more manga.

>>146192737
>>146192743
>>146192797
>>146192816
>>146192936
good job guys you fell for it