Schwarzesmarken / Total Eclipse / Muv Luv

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>>145692929
Fucking beautiful.

>it's a shitsmarken thread
so the old muv luv fags are dead huh?
sad.

>>145693110
>Schwarzesmarken / Total Eclipse / Muv Luv
>so old muv luv fags are dead huh?

????

>>145693110
Feel free to join'em sperg.

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Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7CC7i6brEI

Why can't someone else make a thread before this retard tries to fuck it all up?

>>145692803
She's too cute in the VN. I don't want to have sex with her, just tickle her chin or something. I'd smash anime Lise though.

>>145692803
I guess they're not gonna do an actual trailer for comiket, although the previews and spoilers were nice.

>>145694098
What are you talking about?

>>145692929
>Reinhard Heydrich: Obergruppenführer and second-in-command in the SS and Deputy Governor ("Reich-Protector") of Bohemia and Moravia, he gave the order for the Final Solution and masterminded The Holocaust. He was also known as "The Hangman of Europe". Since his childhood, he was said to excel at anything he put his mind to—fencing, boxing, skiing, charming women, playing the violin, piloting airplanes, and organizing genocide. A total sociopath interested in only his own power, he was amazingly successful at elevating himself but whether he actually accomplished anything for the war effort is unclear; he was too busy raising his status.

>Heydrich despised everything amounting to ideology in the Reich and in 1942 he said to Walther Schellenberg: "This Jew extermination is pure stupidity, useless, and with more bad consequences for us than benefits, specially in times of war... I personally never had any hatred for the Jews [afterall]." He truly did not give a damn about anything, as long as he saw his power quest fulfilled.

>Heydrich gained the Ace Pilot title in an obsolete Bf 110 as a Major der Reserve of the Luftwaffe, strictly for fun. None of his military duties required him to fly combat missions. Only the direct written order of the Führer himself managed to retire him from frontline flying.

>His second in command was secretly disgusted in him and sought to undermine him at every opportunity.

Axmann/Theo TSF showdown when?

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>>145694330
She really is just too adorable. She was made for SoL imouto shenanigans not this wretched life.

>>145694660
I think Beatrix and Gretel are the only girls who are "made" for SM.

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PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE

Friendly reminder that anything Muv-Luv besides the trilogy is shit and shouldn't exist.

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>>145694924
Friendly reminder that your opinion is worthless to Meiya-chan and shouldn't exist.

>>145694924
Oh yeah? They sound like shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHFEdLyLmH8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZZgrB3kKe0

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Who'd you place your money on in a catfight and yes, they have to fight in their dirndls?

>>145695330
Beato.
She wouldn't mind that something might show while fighting in dirndls unlike Iris

>>145692803
You fucking off for good will be one of them.

>>>/m/
>>>/vg/
>>>/trash/
>>>/v/
>>>/jp/
>>>/out/
>>>/anywherebuthere/

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>>145696261
No

>>145692803
Please tell me this isn't official art.

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>>145696191
Yeah, sure this...

>>145696261
I think you disappearing would be a bigger surprise than anything

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>>145696576
...would be more comfortable with lewd fighting then this.

>>145696561
Clearly unfinished, but yeah.

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Did all the Katiafags die off? We used to be in the majority but now there's so few.

>>145696982
They were all seasonal waifu animeonlies, so yes. The only "we" you have in common is with shitposters now.

>>145696982
Beatofag here, but I'll always be grateful for the fun OC that one Katiafag produced.

>>145693110
Muvluv threads have been dead since Schwarzesmarken aired. I'm not sure why or how it attracted so many devoted shitposters.

>>145696261
Thanks doc

>>145698289
That's why /m/ hates discussing SM.

>>145696982
You were only ever an echo chamber, my friend.

>>145693313
>teenage Yuuko found teenage Marimo at her darkest tinge, and didn't bully her

My heart

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>>145696655
You know, now that I think about it, except for the daki, Beatrix doesn't have any real official lewds to speak of and no, I don't count fortified suits even if they're the single most erotic thing imaginable.

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Even if she is a secondary, Gretel will always be the main heroine of my heart

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Yui is made for being my housewife.

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>>145695330
Fund this now!

>>145695330
I want to wrestle with both of them and "accidentally" rip their clothes off.

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>>145695330
I'd rather wrestle the both of them in my bed. And bully them both when I win.

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>>145701918
You sure about that?

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>>145702210
Completely sure of it.

>>145702210
>anime adds a scene where this faggot gets beaten up
>it's still unsatisfying
That anime can't do anything right.

>>145702258
Godfuckingdamnit.
Every time I look at this thumbnail I see cat ears on Irisdina and get disappointed when I click on the picture.
Every. Damn. Time.

>>145702210
>>145702266
You know, a lot of people thought that SM's finale was badass and the absolute best that SM has to offer except for Irisdina not getting medical attention and all, but I always thought it was the single most retarded episode in the whole anime. The dialogue was stupid and cringy ("Only my friends can call me IRIS"), Katia's speech and insert song was out of place and went on for too long, everyone was just mind boggling idiotic, the fighting was badly paced and unconvincing, and the ending was insulting. This one episode was enough to make me reevaluating SM from a flawed but still alright show to a absolute trash.

>>145702710
You're not alone. I'd say more but you summed it up pretty good.

I want Jurgen to go full Gordon Ramsay on Iris and Beato cooking just to see their faces.
Would they or at least one of them start crying?

>>145702873
Most of SM's flaws come down to only having 12 episodes. It really should of been two cours, but Kouki's got to buy his cars.

Really, if they had just one more episode, they could've made a great finale. There was just too much going on though. Theo and Beatrix's fight alone should of been more than half an episode for instances. We barely get to see them trade blows or barbs, and Beatrix's breakdown isn't developed at all before penetration happens.

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Posting best girls.

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>>145703436
And more best girls.

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>>145703283
But would it be possible to make Axmann's death satisfying? This is important.

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>>145703436
Half-life

>>145703516
Yeah, have Theo kill him while Iris fights Beatrix.

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I want to ____ Iris
BR fuck off pls.

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>>145703665
marry

>>145703516
By having either Theo or Lise do it. They've now implied Lise will be carving him up in her route so that'd be pretty great if true.

>>145703778
If you lock her in the same room with Beatrix, who "ara ara" bullies who?

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>>145703829
Pham would never bully!

>>145703912
Clearly you don't know Pham.

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>>145703950
How...how DARE you?

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Cute Lise
Adorable Lise

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>>145704073
Happy Lise
Saved Lise

>>145703712
>>145703620
I don't get in what world did Hiroki think that Theo vs Beatrix would be a good final fight. He builds up Iris vs Beatrix as far back as chapter 2, and now they even have a prequel novel showing how deeply intertwined they are. These two have a lot of grievances and emotions that could be mined, but nope, gotta have Theo take her down. It's like if Berserk concluded with Schierke taking down Griffith while Gutts watched things from the sidelines.

>>145703516
Funny how she has the same ''tiny blush'' as the thead image.

Which Werewolf would you cum on?

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>>145704314

Theo versus Beatrix is great if you're trying to make a prequel for TE where you explain how the Master came to be. Theo unwittingly murdering his love interest's estranged best freind, not knowing Iris still loves Beatrix on some level, and then losing Iris anyway, after being told that he has to carry Beatrix's curse, that's perfect for showing how he becomes broken enough to be the master.

For a good story in and of itself, it's awful, but for a villain origin story it's great. We lose perspective on SM when we look at it on it's own, it's not meant to be taken that way.

but yeah the final episode was trash and Iris' death was a weak link even without the piss-poor execution.

>>145704520
I would prefer to cum *in, anon. Punctuation is important kids

>>145704815

either you need to reread your sentence and figure out how it could be misunderstood, or at least take me to a movie and buy me dinner first.

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How much time does Beatrix spend on her hair?
I want to sneak up on her and just start messing up her hair when she least expects it

>>145704520

I would cum inside all of them. Repeatedly. Until the resulting number of children totally replenished the NVA's losses.

>>145704969
Except for the top braid, her hair is probably naturally like that. I think Iris or Lise would spend more time on their hair than her. Not to say that she neglects her hair. She'd spend more time grooming herself then let's say Katia, Annete, or Sylwia.

>>145704969
ベアトリクス少佐に踏みつけられたいです！

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>>145705140
>My hair’ll get messy! It was hard to do my hair, after all!
Yep.

>>145705140
>Sylwia
Huh, I was always under the impression that she doesn't care about her hair for the most part.

>>145705227
She already told you that she won't satisfy any of your fetishes.

I'd cum on teenage Iris' hair in her bitch years just to see her get angry

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Why are evil girls always so much hotter then everyone else?

>>145705583
You can rape them with much less remorse because they're evil.

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>>145705583
Did you shoop the face anon?

It looks a shitton better than the original.

>>145705607
They're also guilt free ryona or guro fodder.

>>145705628
More like more generic.

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Liebe Hohenstein~

>>145705583
>Beato
>evil
Pick one.

I want to punch Yuuko in the face.

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>>145704969
She may have tried to debut a long time ago to be more popular than she was, but Iris running one of the Mean Girls cliques ensured that would never happen. So I suppose Beatrix went back to not really doing too much with her hair.

And of course, this just made her more insanely arousing.

If you did that when she was still being bullied mercilessly, at most she'd give you this sad, distant look, but not do anything. She didn't think she deserved to be pretty.

Something like this.

>>145705140
>Katia
Katia looks like she spends time on her hair though, unless she's somehow unnaturally lucky and doesn't have to brush it every single day. She just wears it in a simple ponytail most of the time, but actually maintaining that much hair is a feat.

>Anette
The thing is, the converse is probably true of Anette. She doesn't grow her hair out long, but for what it is, it's always well done. It's not like she's a tomboy, or even if she is, she likes to do girly girl things. Girls sometimes like shorter hair because they can do many things with them.

>Sylwia
I know a lot of people say she doesn't exactly groom her hair, but I think it passes. It's quite large, and it has a style nonetheless, and it's not just unkempt growing willy nilly. That said, she may not have the heart to really style it into anything since she's got issues and trauma, and has that dichotomy of being scared of attracting male attention while also trying to look her best (partly for male attention).

>>145705743
Lise is a miracle of the universe.

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>>145705743
Goddamn that food looks good.

>>145705872
>If you did that when she was still being bullied mercilessly, at most she'd give you this sad, distant look, but not do anything. She didn't think she deserved to be pretty.
What if I hugged her immediately afterwards and told her I'm sorry and just wanted to get her attention because I thought she was pretty but didn't know how to approach her?

I wish Beatrix got a full doujin from Ishi instead of half of one. Eh, he might draw more in the future, when he's not being commissioned for Nanoha doujins. He likes Beatrix enough.

http://i.imgur.com/RHLGPxp.jpg

>>145705663
Generic isn't always bad. The original art's nose placement was off and the top lip wasn't working out.

I think most anons would agree that the shooped version is more "right" looking.

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>>145706080
>I think most anons would agree that the shooped version is more "right" looking.

Ok, let's put that to the test then.

Which one's better, A or B?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10996169

>>145706025
Beatrix has a really nice fucking ass.

Bullying Katia

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>>145694427
What a badass.

>>145706025
How many pumps could you take before you exploded if you were in that chomper's position?

>>145707095
>Beatrix's arms around my neck
>Her breasts pressed against me
>my hands on her ass.

Too soon for what I would like.

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>>145705961
She is indeed.

>>145706243
Well thats pretty decisive.

>>145707454
And she's probably got you in a leglock, her ankles or shins digging into you as she uses them for leverage. Her face would be so close to yours that you could feel her her hot breath against you. If you so chose, you could run your tongue along her, licking up the sweat on the nape of her neck as you make a trail towards her mouth to end with an intense kiss as her ruby eyes, just slightly unfocused by pleasure, bore into your own. The only sounds would be the soft, rhythmic slap of her flesh against yours and the breathless grunts, sighs, moans, and occasional giggles that escape from her. The smell would be overwhelming too, a mix of sweat and other fluids with a whiff of rose thrown on top. Think, all you'd be able to feel, see, hear, smell, and taste (if you so chose too) would be this Goddess. For just a moment, your whole world would be Beatrix.

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>>145705992
>dumb siblings being dumb.png

>>145706025
At lease some artist out there likes Beatrix. That's better than nothing, right?

Well okay, I shouldn't test fate like that. Still.

>>145706012
She wouldn't believe you. You'd still get that distant look as if she wants to say something, to make you believe you're a piece of trash, but can't muster it because she thinks she's the piece of trash, and with no future.

>>145708189
What should I do to convince her that I like her?

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>>145708189
>dumb siblings being dumb.png

>>145708289
Be Jurgen.

>>145708397
I can chase her until she believes me. Is that good enough?

>>145708618
Its going to be quite the chase though.

Ranking male characters
Walther > Majob Black > Gretel > Theo >>>>>>>>>shit> Axmann

>>145708684
I like it.

I want to rape Marimo

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>>145709416

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>>145709490
I want more baters getting eaten by cute girls.

>>145692929
What is Beatrix's face going to look like when she sees or hears of this?

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>>145708289
You can't. Eccentric but very popular Jurgen had to figuratively and even sometimes literally chase her until she was too tired to run anymore.

She had to literally be too tired, crying endlessly because she thought she was so worthless she deserved to die alone and unloved, to finally accept that it wasn't a trick, it wasn't a fake, it wasn't a set up, and that it was real.

What Jurgen gave her that day was hope, and faith in living. Jurgen let Beatrix be who she had always wanted.

>>145709984
Happy for Lise, likely.

>>145709571
>Mmmhm, Juicy!

>>145709984
She's gonna cry tears of Joy.

>>145710134
>figuratively and even sometimes literally chase her until she was too tired to run anymore
I really want to do that.

What would fucking Marimo senseless feel like?

>>145710206
Maybe there will be something like that in Strike Frontier.

Of course if they even bother giving Beatrix any storyline scenario.

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>>145709416
Can't rape the willing. In the end, you end up being raped.

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>>145693313
some post the RAWs for the 13-15 vol. I need to finish my set.

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>>145695173
Snobfag, please fuck right off.
Doesn't help the fucker outright lied about parts of the VN.

>>145711140
>the Isumi sisters and the Kouzuki sisters in one pic.
>+ Marimo
Muh dick!

>>145696261
Keep up the good work doc!

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>>145711140
Gah! It looks so detailed, and yet the camera just had to shake.

I'm a sucker for thigh high boots.

>>145707745
Ah hah, so Lise is closer to Iris than we thought!

Beatrix is one of those lovely weirdos who visits the beach at night.

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>>145708618
You have a good heart anon. Hopefully Theo will take up your and Jurgen's way.

>>145704209
>>145692803
Naked Lise.
Predatory Lise?

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>>145703912
>>145704002
Anon, not him, and no one beats me in their love for Pham, and their admiration and the purity of her love and happiness. I hate to say it to you, but she can bully.

But it's all in the great purpose of spreading happiness, love, and joy!

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>tfw no Yugoslavia front VN

>>145713300
suffering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEAXIoBPhBQ

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>>145699883
Well Beatrix really is a good girl, what else is there to say?

>>145701238
Yui is made to be a cunt and get cucked and die alone with fifty cats.

>>145710257
I don't think that's possible my friend. Haven't you wondered why she's dumped so often?

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>>145711140
Is Marimo shooped in that picture? I never seen her before in that poster.

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Doing cute things in school with Lise!

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D-D-Doing inappropriate things at home with Lise!

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>>145718420
Theo-onii-chan is a lucky bastard isn't he?

>>145712579
>>145718420
>>145692803
How can one imouto be so cute and so lewd at the same time?

>>145718791
The luckiest.

>>145693467
>>145694782
You guys are doing God's work here. I've bought a shitload of Best Bloc stuff thanks to you.

>>145709984
She'd be slightly pissed over losing a useful pawn like Axmann, but her sadism would over rule that and she'd be happy that someone died, just like when she learned of the Borkwalde Sqaudron's fate.

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>>145720557

>>145713300
Oy Katja, Katja!
Moderate degenerate,
Suzy will lead you thirsty across the Elbe.

Oy Katja, Katjo!
Chomp'd are your defence lines;
They would've been intact had you stayed with us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9-mYg5VDzQ

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>>145721786

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It now less than 48 hours before end of Muv-Luv 2nd pre-register gatcha and switching to 3rd one.

Post results.

That what I have after 350 rolls.

Any regrets? Any hope that things may change before times up? Or are you pleased with what you have?

My only regret is that I started quire late and didn't have enough luck to get Yui.

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>>145722596

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>>145721786

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>>145722596
no regrets.

>>145722596
Yui and sr boy.

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We'll never be getting scans of this/

>>145710134
Would you be able to maintain your poise as well as Jurgen if you were kissing Beatrix?

Anons, what are your thoughts about Irisdina's death? Imo, her death made me restless I just could not stop thinking about it.

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>>145727273
I thought it was ridiculous, like almost everything in episode 12.

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>>145722596
I started too late and missed the first part. After 174 rolls, the second part gave me Tama. A lot.

>>145727273

It was very poorly executed, it is one of the many things that turned episode 12 into a farce.

>>145727273
I second this >>145727444. Though the sheer stupidity of Irisdina's death was easily matched by the last ditch attempt of adding some motivation to Beatrix after butchering her character for 11 episodes.

>>145692803
/a/ is a worksafe board so am I supposed to be able to browse through this thread with my supervisor by my side?

>>145727642
You're not supposed to browse this site at work, so no.

>>145727668
Where does it say that? And what is the purpose and meaning of worksafe boards then?

>>145727444
>>145727621
>>145727551
I thought episode 12 was pretty good. What was so wrong with it anyways?

>>145727642
>inb4 PROMOTIONS

>>145728234
I'm just too annoyed the fact that Iris has to die. I mean, she deserves better.

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>>145727642

No Areolae, ergo SFW.

>>145727897

The point of SFW boards is that any board that allows porn, becomes porn. That picture is not porn, and is relevant to the topic at hand because it's a sneak peak at more Schwarsesmarken content. I get that you're new here, but if you don't even remember when Valkyrie Drive was airing, you need to lurk moar.

>>145728234

They have time to take Iris to the top of a hill in Berlin (which don't exist, they just have piles of rubble from world war 2 that may or may not be tall enough for that picture) but they don't have time to get her .25 acp wounds treated.

yeah, OK. That would be more believable of Axmann's fuckboi wasn't shown getting carted off after getting gutshot with an AK. Also Annett THROWING THE MAKAROV TO IRIS INSTEAD OF JUST SHOOTING AX.

That part is past believably. I'll suspend my disbelief for mecha and silicon-based alien lifeforms, but not that.

>>145728234
>Fights that make little sense, including Irisdina vs. Axmann
>That awful speech
>Last ditch attempts at humanizing several characters that were considered the be the greatest scum in the original and the one who was made in to the "none eviler" in the anime.
>Beatrix breaking character in both her original and "none eviler" versions
>A epilogue that reeks of hypocrisy

>>145728668
>Beatrix breaking character in both her original and "none eviler" versions
I can see her breaking character from her prior anime characterization, but how is she OOC concerning her original characterization? Isn't her whole muh Jurgen thing pretty much canon in the LNs (or at least heavily implied to be)?

>>145727273
Yeah, me too. Made no sense at all.

>>145728411
Best ending would have been Beatrix and Axmann dying and then Theo and Iris marrying and adopting Katia.

>>145729197
Beatrix never cared about anyone's opinions or tried to justify herself in front of others. While the whole "muh Jurgen" is canon, it was always shown trough internal monologue and implied in her conversations with Irisdina. The whole telling the 666th her plan is OOC and actually makes her look incompetent and unprofessional in my opinion. Why explain yourself to the people you are just about to kill?

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>>145728420
Ahah, I knew that sexy stasimouto mouth reminded me of someone.

>>145728420
>No Areolae, ergo SFW.
I thought areolae are allowed, but nipples are not.

>>145729499
Doesn't she does talk to Theo and Walter about her motivations. It's not to the extent of the anime but the whole

>"You want us to be robots?"
>"If that's what it takes to win, then yes."

dialogue still happened in the LN.

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>>145729758
No, it's closer to young Beatrix than anyone else.

>>145729901
But she doesn't initiate that conversation, Walther does, while pinning her TSF, after having soundly beaten her. And that conversation also results in her going Berserk after the seeds of doubt are planted in her mind.

>>145730002
Ah you're right, kind of an inbetween.

>>145730002
18 year old Lise is basically equivalent to 14 year old Beatrix in looks.

>>145730314
No, they are two totally different kind of semen demons

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Yugoslavia

Bea is the real hero of SM

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>>145730775

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>>145722596
I am ready.

>>145730775
Not really.

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>>145727642

>>145730775
Taking Theo being the Master into account, yeah if she won the world would probably have been better off.

>>145706802
That's not an actual biography of Heidrich nigga, it's swapping out stuff with Axmann's bio, cause he's based loosely on Heidrich.

>>145732909
No, that's actually Heidrich.

>>145732998
But he wasn't actually a fighter ace, he flew missions but he wasn't an exceptional pilot.

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>>145733051
Neither was Axmann. What the hell do you mean "swapping out stuff with Axmann's bio" where is this bio you speak of?

>>145733051
Heidrich wanted to be a pilot to prove that he wasn't some "asphalt soldier" but an elite, probably because Hartmann said some mean things to him. He was considered to be a proficient pilot, but not amazing. Like Hartmann said about it all, getting ace status from shooting down a bunch of barely literate Russians in planes that could barely fly was hardly that impressive.

>Heydrich was decorated with the Iron Cross Second (1940) and First (1941) Classes. The number of missions he flew is not known, but he was awarded the Frontflugspange (Front Pilot Badge) in silver, which usually was awarded after 60 combat missions. According to Ballantine Books' Illustrated History of the Violent Century (1973), Heydrich flew 97 missions in a Bf-110 twin engine fighter.

Also, Heydrich was very interested in aviation, which does match up with Axmann. Axmann himself was one of the big backer for a stasi TSF corps. This, combined with his rivalry with Jurtgen wouldn't leave me too surprised if Axmann turned out to be capable of pilot like Heydrich (but still far below any of the main characters).

>>145726699
Is it a doujin or what? Well the second one looks like official anime thing.

Our top priority should be getting all of these doujin scans up on the Panda.

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>>145734901

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>>145734697
>Well the second one looks like official anime thing.

Because it is. It includes a bunch of content they had to change or cut to do the limitations they were working under.

>>145733298
>>145734536
Fair, fair, I seem to recall reading stuff about Axmann being a pilot himself in side content bios but it's been a while now so maybe I'm just mixing shit up.

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>>145735073
>cut content
This is a travesty. That being said theres a folder for that one on pixiv, or is there more than the collection of bikini pictures?

>>145735445
Definitely more.

We haven't even see what's inside the Beatrix half.

>>145706243
Looks like B is far more popular.

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>>145728411
Good thing she has a rite then, no? If the cost of an Iris route is both Katia and Gretel have to die, that went be a cost at all.

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>>145722596
>Discovered right now that you can roll 5 times each day.
>Forced to make this decision now

FUCK

>>145735874
Flip a coin, Anon.

I would personally choose Mikoto, but Its your choice.

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>>145735073
This is a goddamn travesty. Even the VN didn't have Inghild moments much, I wanted to see this.

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Filling up Beato's rectum with man milk!

Giving Irisdina's womb a kiss and a creampie!

>>145737602

>not doing the opposite

pleb plz

>>145737681
>>145737602
>Not doing both things to both.
Eunuchs, both of you.

>>145737887
>Swapping holes
Safety first, anon!

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I want to lovingly bully Katia!

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Why is Lise in dress uniform?

>>145740308
Because she looks bangin in it.

>>145740308
Why is Iris not exercising TD?

>>145740472
Is her finger in the trigger well?

No?

Then she's got trigger discipline.

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>>145737602
But Beato wants babies.

>>145740580
No she doesn't

>She's a gloryhound who wants to exterminate all possible GDR defectors from the DDR and she literally killed MCs family as far as he's concerned!
>She's just butthurt Irisdina's brother wasa revolutionist and swim with sharks you're a shark thought process
>Iris bro didn't like the DDR and she's mad butthurt over Iri existing and being better at being a pilotBasically Beatrix is a shit human being all around, and that's before we get into the torture porn
>She wants to murder forever, see you in Valhalla is her admitting communism might be a bit shit and challenging Theo's resolve all at once
>Beatrix is a lesbian rapist who was spurned by Iris and is now obsessed with her.
>She was responsible for personally raping and mindbreaking Lise with her 20 inch dildo.
>She's the one holding Ketchup's hand and telling him what to do
>She tried to rape Katia

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>>145740859
>Katiafags still baiting

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>>145740859
>She was responsible for personally raping and mindbreaking Lise with her 20 inch dildo.
Mkay you got me.

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>>145740973
Does it make you angry that she's the main girl in SM?

>>145741164
Does it make you angry the main girl doesn't even win in her own route?

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>>145741328
Does it make you angry that Katia is featured in more official art than anyone else?

>>145741424
Only when it's paired with the shit I want to buy.

>>145735874
It's 7 in fact.

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Yui, Cryska and Inia are my waifus.

>>145741424
I'm pretty sure Iris is featured on more stuff. She also has the most fanart. And Katia keeps losing Age's popularity polls to the other main girls(including Beatrix) despite being forced down everyone's throat like you say so I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here.

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>>145736598
>>145741620
Well at least I still managed to get some great girls despite not knowing that.

I'm sorry Tama ;_;

>>145730775
Didn't most of Europe evacuate in the end, making her plan pointless and edgy anyways?

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>>145742136
To a degree, that kind of WAS her plan. East Germany would buy time for the rest of Europe to strike back. In the end she sort of got what she wished, in all consideration.

>>145741757
>multiple waifus

When are they going to translate the visual novel with Chinese wife in it?

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>>145692803
Well VN Lise seems less happy than anime Lise by the propect of getting Theo's but it look like she lust more for it.

>>145743041
Never know from just one CG anon. Tears of joy might come after, this time.

>>145742136
The thing is maybe they wouldn't have needed to.

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>>145740859
>She tried to rape Katia

Ah, the truth finally comes out. This is all you care about, even when that itself is false.

Katiafags truly are the worst.

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>>145742517
Teenage Beatrix is perfect for bullying and teasing in bed.

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>>145737577
Here you go.

>>145742517
Yes, but if they managed to achieve the same outcome that she wanted through less drastic, evil, and wasteful means, then that means that everything she did was pointless.

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>>145744206
Welcome to tragedy.

>>145745309
Not really; it would just mean that she's an unsympathetic monster that the world was better off without and that we should rejoice when the heroes brutally killed her and all her followers.

That's pretty much the opposite of tragedy, wouldn't you agree?

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>>145745578
Intentions and motivations matter a lot. Beatrix had the motivations and intentions to do good, but her solution to the problem was monstrous. That's the tragedy - what could have been.

>>145742136
>what is Bake the Enemies
No, the europe evacuation was a disaster, and thanks to the rebels the Oder-Niesse Line fell even faster.

>>145744206
>>145745578
Considering the fact that the "hero" probably ended up being an anti-human terrorist and that all their empty promises and ideals changed nothing significant in the end, yeah I'd call it a tragedy.

>>145745674
No, it just makes her destructively evil. Either she was too retarded or just didn't give a shit to reevaluate her plans. There's nothing tragic about that. While I'd be willing to forgive her means if they had a chance to produce a better outcome, they don't even do that and are just cruel for the sake of being cruel.

Admit it, you were happy when Theo rammed his knife into her.

Also, motives do matter, but what matters more are outcomes and means. If the means are bad but the outcome is good, then congrats, you're morally ambiguous. Beatrix was neither.

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>>145745932
You know when the only way you can be right is to ignore all the material except the parts that agree with you you're not actually right? Take the big picture into account and its not as black and white as you so desperately want it to be. I'm not even a Beatrixfag but your insistence on making absolutes out of ambiguity to try and be right when you clearly don't know what you're talking about is insufferable. That and your hatred fueled bile is ironic considering the "good" "pure" and "forgiving" "heroes" you champion. Katia would be appalled by your vitriol.

And you've been at this for months man, its sickening.

>>145746240
I don't think it's black and white, but if >>145745674 is saying that Beatrix was totally wrong while the heroes were totally right, then that is not tragic or ambiguous.

>>145746347
>look this guy agrees with me that means I'm right
You say you don't think its black and white and then proceed to say one side is totally wrong and the other is totally right. How self-aware are you?

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>>145746347
>Beatrix was totally wrong
No. She had a few good ideas and plans people could get behind to a degree. The problem was execution and methodology.

Nobody in SM is a totally unredeemable shitbag except for Ketchup.

>>145746486
Being self-aware and shilling your own truth are mutually exclusive.

>>145746531
Put your trip back on.

>>145746531
But the heroes wanted the same thing she did, and managed to achieve it with far fewer casualties, which makes Beatrix comes off like some generic villain who wants to "save the world by destroying it" or some shit. It seems like you'd agree that Beatrix dying was ultimately a good thing that no one should be sad about because it allowed the rebels to get down to actually solving the problems they had.

>>145746631
Point taken, but I really hope the katiafag is just baiting when he's been at this since the show aired and refuses to update his point of view based on new information. I can understand someone who has only watched the show without any peripheral knowledge on the series to believe what he posts but at this point I'm worried for his sanity.

>>145746531
>Nobody in SM is a totally unredeemable shitbag except for Ketchup.
Now that we can unequivocally agree on.

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>>145746946
>and managed to achieve it with far fewer casualties

>>145746946
>solve the problems they had
You mean they were upset because they weren't getting eaten by the BETA fast enough? Well they sure solved that problem.

>>145746946
>Managed to achieve it with far fewer casualties
Possibly. Depends on if you consider the civilians that got killed because the Oder-Neisse Line fell earlier than under Beatrix's plans casualties or not. What ifs are the killer here. We don't know who would have saved more, and morally both sides are somewhat suspect.

Beatrix dying was necessary. Not necessarily a good thing, but necessary. In a way, she's the real martyr of SM.

>>145747158
>Beatrix dying was necessary.
If you worked for the moderates, maybe. Either sides' "icon" dying was necessary to break morale and route the remaining forces.

>>145746700
Why?

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>>145746531

>>145748134
>Iris completely oblivious to lusty gazes
Truly perfection

>>145746531
Vivi or Lise are cuter.

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>>145748196
Heresy.

>>145748300
Katia's probably an atheist, so funny you should mention that.

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>>145748300

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>突然ベアトリクスはエプロンを脱ぎ捨てて制服のボタンを外し、ユルゲンの右手を自らの豊満な胸に当てたのだった。柔らかくて温かいベアトリクスの胸の感触が、ダイレクトにユルゲンの右手に伝わってくる。
>「あ、えあ、あ、おうお、あ、はいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい！？」
>いきなりの出来事にユルゲンは頭の中が真っ白になり、興奮のあまり目をグルグルさせてしまったのだった。

What did she mean by that?

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>>145748300
No. Katia cutest doge. Lise cutest imouto.

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>>145748377
Both are doge and imouto though.

>>145748367
She meant a deal's a deal, so Jurgen had to suck on her nipples.

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>>145748405
Then who was phone?

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>>145748585
This guy

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>>145748585
The ayys.

>>145748367
>Jurgen gropes the breast that Theo stabbed her through
>instant bad memories and trauma

>>145748367
That's fucking lewd senpai.

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>>145748367
>You will never hand bra these large but well-shaped mammaries

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>>145692803
my nigga

>>145749863
Yeah. The best part is is that she starts moaning and saying yes as she holds his hand to her chest too.

>>145749863
This would be teen Beatrix, so the breasts haven't gotten ginormous yet.

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>>145746531
What happened to ML Quest, faggot? You even have official A-12 art now .

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>>145750463
Hard physical labor kicking my ass day in and day out. Plus I'm kind of a shitty author anyway, so I kinda fell off just due to burn out and not figuring many people were interested enough to put up with my shit.

>>145750543
That's a shame I Guess. You had a pretty good lot going. Well if you ever return to it, I'll join in, work permitting.

>>145749863
Remember that as hot as those tits are, they're attached to a very, very bad girl.

>>145751992
Thanks. With my going back to university soon, I should have a little more free time to write again.

I'm not sure if I should jump in with Fischer again though or instead allow you all to pick a theater and shit.

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>>145752374
And how do you punish bad girls? With spanking and good dicking.

For best results, use a combination of the two.

>>145752649
Why does she look so idolish despite the dirndl?

Actually, Beatrix as an idol. Now there's an absurd idea.

>>145753501
She probably tried when she wanted to debut in high school. Mean Girls put a stop to that

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>>145753685
>school idols
>East Germany

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>Ishigaki's C90 Nanoha doujin is already on the Panda but his Beato one will most likely never be.

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I want to protect that smile!

>>145743041
I don't remember this scene. DVD special?

>>145755104
Yes.

>>145755162
Which dvd special? Got a name please?

>>145755242
Its just the BDs man, go download them for some QUALITY fixes and two shots of Lise and Theo fucking if you care about it.

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>>145755242
The fourth one. Don't get too excited though its just two still frames. Two sexy sexy frames.

>>145754172
Watamote is basically the prologue to BiS.

>>145755362
>>145755363
>The fourth one.
That's what I needed, thanks.

>>145755363
When did this happen? How is this not shown in the website I stream?

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>>145756118

>>145754172
If there is such girl like Lise, I would want her to suck muh dick

>>145754288
fuck I knew I missed a few artist

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>>145756993
>"… I understand. If it’s like that, then keep longing for it …"

>>145757417
Is it possible to find girls like that in real life? People who are like these are supposed to be prostitutes right?

>>145757598
Is it possible to find girls like Beatrix in real life too?

>>145757673
Yes, either in politics, as unethical CEOs or on death row

>>145746531
>Nobody in SM is a totally unredeemable shitbag except for Ketchup.
And Irisdina. And Lise. And Beatrix. And Polish slut.

>>145757704
Real funny, Anon, real funny.

>>145757740
BR is awake I see.

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>>145756993
Just be someone moderately important or the MfS wanted to keep tabs on, and congrats, Lise would do more then suck yo dick.

>>145757815
Someone post the BD version.

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>>145758086

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>Lise captured by Stasi, raped, and used as a slave to a sadistic psychopath who gets off on her suffering
>He makes her do all kinds of fucked up shit
>She cries constantly for Onii-chan to save her
>By the time Beatrix picks her up there are barely enough pieces of her left to rebuild a recognizable human being from
Fuck this gay Earth. Communism not even once.

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You never know how many spies you're surrounded by.

>>145758465
If it's Martin in the red Beret, then its three.

Schweppenstette did nothing wrong!

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>>145758338
There's still time, there's still a chance to possibly save her, anon. Come Martyrs. A chance to save in the name of true love.

But who will you sacrifice, in the day bought with blood?

>>145758338
It's ironic that Axmann was in the faction that was fighting for closer contact with the West and less communism.

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>>145758763
Whatever way he can maintain his power, he has no allegiance but to himself. The lowest form of person.

>>145758763
In a way. One has to understand a lot of organizations have factions, and ML seems to like exploring this, as well as making things not as they seem.

Yes, Axmann headed up the Berlin faction, but his goals were not because he treasured freedom, or even the West. Whatever happened in his past, or if he always was a sociopath, it's irrelevant now - he only seeks power. West Germany is simply much more powerful than East Germany. Being in the BND, and being able to rise in it and control it, offers him many more opportunities than the Stasi, for all it's wanton power, only really has control in East Germany.

Beatrix technically is head of the Moscow faction (or at least amongst the more junior officers), but in reality she outright hates the GDR, hates communism, and is very much a believer in America. By relation, one can speculate that that was also probably Jurgen's position.

Schmidt is supposedly part of the Moscow faction, and as is revealed, is an outright puppeteer from the USSR.

There are probably more factions besides, and not just in the Stasi. Irisdina more or less seems to be an East German nationalist, and somewhat a pan-Germanist even if she's not that great an ideologue of communism, but still open to the West. Gretel is out and out both an ideologue, and a nationalist (though wanting reunification), hating the West.

>captcha - Antonio Gramisci

>>145758997
>What are you talking about?

>The politics have always been derp, and have been getting derpier as time goes by. TE was pretty bad. TDA was even worse with the humans going to open war with one another, and SM was the worst with its chaotic evil stasi who sat around gloating about how evil they were and did evil for for no reason other than they were evil even when it hurt them.

>>145759299
Seriously who are you quoting?

>>145759299
>>The politics have always been derp, and have been [etc.]
Will this shit ever die?

>>145757673
This anime gave me a good reason why I wanna suck russian girl's pussy. No joke, I'm Asian so I know the urge.

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>>145759452

>>145759550
Do you not agree with me? Beatrix and irsidina are best examples to prove my point.

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>>145759452
>>145759600
They aren't even Russian you dolt.

>>145759617
Wait they are German?

>>145759600
I don't care about agreeing with you or not, I'm judging you for that inane post.

>>145759687
Oh what the fuck is this shit.

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>>145758673
I wish I could say it won't be easy but

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>>145759687
>>145759600
>>145759452

How would Irisdina feel if you asked her to read LaVey's Bible?

>>145759299
Seriously, who are you quoting?

At least gib a name, or a link.

>>145759442
Never it seems. People who say that have no idea of human nature, or why we don't simply "unite". It's hippy hand holding taken to geopolitics.

>>145760353
>Seriously, who are you quoting?
I think he's quoting some guy from /m/.

>>145760375
>I think he's quoting some guy from /m/.

Well /m/ is retarded, we already knew this.

>>145760324
>Implying that a East-German would know what that is.

>>145760353
>It's hippy hand holding taken to geopolitics.
Well, seeing how some of them adamantly defend Katia's "Ideals" and think that her anime speech was inspiring, its no surprise.

>>145692803
GIMME THEM POLISH PEOPLE'S ARMY GIRLS!