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ITT: Series that come first into your mind when you think of "otaku pandering garbage of the worst kind."
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>>145523381
Oreimo of course
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>>145523381
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>>145523381
>implying the koimonogatari arc isn't the greatest piece of anime of the 21st century
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>>145523381
You said it OP. Only low IQ weebs could be able to enjoy trash like pornogatari. The worst part is that they believe it's actually deep.

>>145524002
>this is what pornogatari faggots actually believe

No wonder your kind is considered to be the fucking worst fanbase on /a/. Kill yourself with your shit taste.
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>>145523381
And other works KyoAni.
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>>145524289
>implying I don't watch it only for the cute girls
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>>145524532
This.
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>>145523381
nisekoi, k-on, non non biyori
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This thread is bait of the worst kind.
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Monogatari is the fucking worst honestly. It set a bad example for the industry. Shaft is a fucking shitty studio who can't even keep characters on model most of the time and they're also lazy fucks. They dare to charge high prizes for their shitty BDs and the stupid otakus keep buying them. At least the fad is finally fading in japan and more people are starting to realize just how shallow and trashy Monogatari actually is. Even the fucking pokemon TV series has better animation than Monogatari.
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>>145524289
>worst fanbase on /a/
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>>145524891
>fujomatsu
>literally tumblr
Kill yourself.
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Any haremshit or isekaishit out there. Fucking cancer.
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>>145525428
>pokemon better animation than monogatari
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>>145528420
>Shaft slideshow
>animation
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>>145523381
My favourite one.
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>>145523381
Kantai Collection
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>>145523381
SAO and any other series of its ilk.
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>>145529563
This and touhou shit
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>>145525428
This
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>>145523381
>otaku pandering garbage of the worst kind
Easily most of KyoAni shows.
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Others aren't even trying.
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>>145523381
I'd just like to remind you that "otaku pandering anime" literally means "anime intended to satisfy people who are into anime" and that /a/ has somehow decided that this is a bad thing.
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>>145524289
>worst fanbase on /a/

There are more anti-Monogatari threads up now than actual Monogatari threads.
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>>145531662
That's because shitting on Monogatari is an easy way to get (You)s.
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>>145528420
That's how bad Shaft animators are.
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>>145531437
SAO exists and everyone rightfully hates it. We still need someone to kill Kirito cosplayers
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>>145523381
Any harem show ever
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>>145534844
>unironically hating kirito

Fag.
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>>145534926
He's a soulless husk and there are worse but SAO is the avatar of evil and shitty self-indulgent writing. The other harem shit is either hated by normalfags or have less plot holes so they are liked.
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>>145534926
>unironically liking anything SAO related
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>>145532783
more like monogatari faggots are easily triggered
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>>145523381
Pornogatari. No contest.
Followed by SAO and Re:Zero.

All of those anime above are harem too.
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>>145537327
Yes, that's exactly what I meant by it.
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>>145537327
Like you right now?
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>>145523381
Fateshit and Bakeshit are the worst offenders to the point that it would be a good thing that those series never existed.
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>>145523457

Dude it doesn't matter anymore, that mod left, and the other mods don't care about what gets posted on /a/ anymore.
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>>145523457
>>145537425
>Can't distinguish between Rec thread and Shaft dissing thread
First day on /a/, eh?
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>>145535537
>hating sao
fucking normalfaggot
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>>145523381

Google this :

- Shait

- KyoAnus
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>>145524289
>I only watch mature and deep anime!
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>>145538350
Shait come from KyoAnus
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>>145524289
>the fucking worst fanbase on /a/
To be honest they're a pretty standard waifuwar-driven fanbase that, compared to a lot of other (but not all) popular series stays relatively self-contained within their own threads. Not the worst, not the best either. Hell I see more threads like this than actual Monogatari threads these days even.

I've gotta assume that you're from somewhere else outside of /a/ to be even saying this since apparantly the fanbase is genuinely terrible elsewhere. You're from either reddit, tumblr or MAL I guess since those are the only other english-speaking communities mentioned on here I think.
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>>145538725

Monogatari has gotta be for my money the most mature and deep take on teenage nerds in anime
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>>145538725

Monogatari is cancer because it's a harem that combines moe with pseudo intellectual drivel that avant teens love. So its fanbase is basically moeshitters and deepfags colliding into one big fat turd.
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>>145523381
I tried watching this, it's really boring.
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>>145523381
Really any LN trash that includes some lazy ass genre savvy characters, particularly the protagonist. It doesn't matter whether they're written as a loser hikiNEET or a competent individual, if they are aware of common otaku tropes then it's otaku pandering. It's gotten so stale that even shitty wish fulfillment that takes itself seriously is preferred over this meta bullshit.
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>>145524532
Why would you pick the least otaku-pandering KyoAni show?

Lucky Star and Haruhi were made for otaku, K-On is the normie variant
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>>145539749
>Haruhi
>made for otaku
Nigga, what?
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>>145531662
>implying they are not just monogatari threads in disguise

Sort of like snake threads, they are just there to bait people into shitting on snake.
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>>145539556

Big part of it is lack of creativity.

Today your basic LN or VN writter is just some neet trying pay bills and support there video game habits it's an incestuous industry.

it would be refreshing if creatives today explored literature from past fictional works
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>>145523381
Sword Art Online
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>>145537349
>Zero
>MC is a giant fuckup
>does shit to make people constantly hate him
>reflects neet life unglamorously with other characters pointing out what a shit he is

pandering for who?
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>>145540017

watch more anime kid.
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>>145523381
The fans are pretentious but the show is enjoyable.
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>>145523381
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>>145540017
How is it not? It's about a girl who basically dreams and wishes that she were in an anime and surrounded by anime tropes, while at the same time actually being in an anime

Did you fucking watch it?
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>>145539749
> k-on
> not the most otaku pandering moetrash that exists

What other group of people was it made for ? Kids ? socially adept 25 yo salarymen ?
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>>145540960
It plays it "classy" compared to other moeshit, with pantyshots and titgrabs every other minute

I'm not saying it's intended for your grandfather, but it's as tame and normal as moe can get
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>>145540017
it's a fucking harem faggot
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>>145523381
0/10 b8
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>>145540167
Are you implying that Re:Zero isn't otaku pandering trash? Just because there's muh suffering it doesn't mean otakus won't dig it. It's LN garbage with a fucking NEET as a MC for fuck's sake.
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>>145542307
So where is the pandering?
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>>145540094
>it would be refreshing if creatives today explored literature from past fictional works
>A.E. Van Vogt
Are you being ironic on purpose, or are you unaware of the manga/anime Narue no Sekai that is literally named after a Van Vogt book?
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>>145542444
Did you even fucking read? The MC is a fucking NEET who gets transported to a fantasy world. There's the pandering you dense faggot.
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>>145542795
And he gets shit on constantly for it and is at the point of suicide because he's a useless fuck?
Where is the pandering?
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>>145523381
This fucking shit
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>>145542307
>there's a NEET as the MC so it's trash
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>>145542444
rem is the biggest waifu bait character of the last couple of years. if you believe re:zero doesn't pander to otakus then you're obviously in denial.
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>>145543397
You mean the girl the MC rejects but who keeps being devoted to him?
Yeah prime waifu bait, has a husbundo that doesn't even love her.
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>>145543389
It is trash. You're just used to watching shitty otaku pandering cartoons like the fucking weeb you are.
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>>145543554
>misusing weeb
>>>/v/
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>>145523381
>>145531381
Only correct ones, lame thread.
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>>145538186
*whoosh*
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I'd rather have otaku pandering moeshit than 2deep4me shit that /a/ for some reason adores like NGE, Texhnolyze and Serial Experiments Lain
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>>145523381
Waiting for you to start
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>>145543491
Are all Reddit:Zero cucks as retarded as this one? You're literally describing a prime waifu bait character, the kind that otakus adore, you dumb fuck.
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>>145543554
You didn't explain how yet.
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>>145543817
How is that prime waifu bait?
Shit what well written, likable girl is not waifu bait?
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>>145542542

>Narue no Sekai that is literally named after a Van Vogt book

>Anime titles directly reflect the content now
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Visual Novel adaptations and haremshit, but specially battle harems. Stuff like highschool DxD or any other anime with dumb fanservice. Idolshit is also bad and recently this Isekai cancer that is polluting Japan. Probably the worst fad this industry has sprouted in recent times.
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>>145531437
"Otaku-pandering" would be a good thing if otakus weren't disgusting subhumans.

As we've said before, up until about Evangelion, anime was made for "normalfags", mostly under age 24. People who tried to do their best in school and had plans for college, getting a steady job, finding a wife/husband, and starting a family; not hikki/NEETs who lived in piles of merch and accumulated ramen boxes. Yes, the otaku market existed back in the day, but the only things that specifically catered to them were ultra-niche OAV's. Until about 1995, anime studios and producers didn't cater to the idol-stabbers.

So are you guys really proud of letting those wastes of oxygen determine the future of the anime industry?
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>>145538318
I want to gouge Kirito's eyes out with a corkscrew and stuff them down his throat.

Glad I can still count on most /a/nons making SAO feel unwelcome here.
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>>145544980
>Idolshit
This is a different brand of trash than all the other stuff you mentioned. While otaku pandering garbage comes in many different flavors (anything from high school SoL to fantasy to sci-fi to supernatural), idolshit is all the same.
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>>145543695
Why do they have to be mutually exclusive? I like both types of shows.
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MAL level thread
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>>145545096
> "Otaku-pandering" would be a good thing if otakus weren't disgusting subhumans.

That's like poetry.
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>>145544644
It reflects that he has explored past literature and was inspired by it, which seems to be what that anon was asking for. I mean, unless you think that the mangaka just chose a random lesser-known foreign sci-fi book from the 40s without having read it, but that seems unlikely.
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>>145545471
there's nothing wrong with incest
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>>145527741
>defending bait threads

(You) first >>>/v/edditor.
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>>145550713
>i don't like this thread so it must be bait

faggot
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>"otaku pandering garbage of the worst kind."
>Posts a promo poster of the series that has by far and wide the most exposition via info-dumping and (for the most part) very scant fanservice compared to the other seasons
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>>145550713
I'm not defending anything, I'm just calling you out for being a cancerous faggot.
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>>145551137
monogatari will always be garbage and you will always remain a greentexting faggot
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>>145534844
>SAO exists and everyone rightfully hates it

Not if there are worse things out there that /a/ loves.
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>>145540094
>it would be refreshing if creatives today explored literature from past fictional works
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>>145545096
>People who tried to do their best in school and had plans for college, getting a steady job, finding a wife/husband, and starting a family

Isn't that basically what monogatari is about? Araragi is trying to get into college and live a normalfag life. He's a normalfag in Hana.
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>>145551137
And yet people complain when that shit is absent from the movie.
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>>145545165
Just go to Japan and kill the author.

None of you people have balls. The world would be a better place if authors similar to the ones who write Eragon, Twilight, and SAO were brutally murdered and their corpses hung on their houses
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>>145552829
>someone made something I don't like
>better go murder them
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>>145551918
Those pandering shows have less plot holes or are the dropped by 99% percent of everyone so hatred can't be aimed at it unless you're a hyper autist.


No one truly cares about 5th rate dropped in 10 minute trash like Sacred Seven, Asterisk, Active Raid, or Arslan unless you're an autist who needs a scapegoat to make a 6 hour long rant on why lazy writing is problematic
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>>145552869
Everyone hates SAO. Exterminating the author would be righteous and just since no one intelligent likes this SAO. Even the casual plebs trying to pretend they have great taste hate SAO; murdering the author or any of the series unironic fans is just.
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>>145543695
>liking pandering moe over 2deep moe
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>>145553050
edgy faggots like you are the worst. it's no longer the 90s faggot
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>>145553129
If everyone hates SAO then violent death towards the author and any remaining unironic fans is absolute justice.

Exterminating hack writers is progress for the human race. The world would be a better place with a violently dismembered and skullfiucked corpse of George Lucas, J.J. Abrams, or Reki Kawahara.
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>>145552978
Not talking about those. I'm talking about all the isekai trash /a/ loves.
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>>145538770
WTF MODS
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>>145523381
Eva started this otaku pandering trend. Anno and Gainax are to blame for this shit.
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SAO is for underage kids, not otaku

Otaku pandering is usually more sexual, like sora no otoshimono/ ah my goddess. Usually MC is less of a badass and more of a lost soul who needs a supernatual harem to save him. Ken Akamatsu stuff probably fits this too.
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>>145553461
>implying otakus don't love their badass MCs
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>>145553461
>Implying the almost rape, Suguha's tittays, and Sinon's fatass weren't otaku pandering
>Implying nips don't like OP MCs like Kirito and Tatsuya since Mahouka and SAO sell like gangbusters
>Kirito still tops Newtype

SAO is otaku as fuck
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>>145553461
>SAO is for underage kids, not otaku

SAO appeals to both you stupid fuck. See the huge amount of doujinshi SAO has. The more the doujinshi, the more otaku appeal a series has.
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>>145553429
Konosuba and re:Zero are FoTM shit. One is mediocre one-note comedy and one is the Log Horizon to Erased's SAO. People tolerate them because they aren't openly self-indulgent and the plot/world doesn't completely bend to MC-kun.

All you have to do to get plebs who pretend they have good taste is have a gimmick that doesn't devolve catastrophically; only stagnate like One Piece post time jump.
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>>145553906
>Konosuba and re:Zero are FoTM shit

You know their success is going to make more shitty isekai LN to be adapted, right?
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>>145553946
Quite aware.

Too bad most non-SAO Isekai end up boring at worst rather than boring then the worst form of self-indulgence so the people pretending they have taste will tolerate them.
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>>145544112
>Rem
>well written

And plenty of well written, likable girls aren't waifu bait. The difference is that Rem specifically is unconditionally accepting of all your fuckups, while the rest aren't.
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>>145554076
>Too bad most non-SAO Isekai end up boring at worst
>he hasn't read all the edgy shit
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>>145544112
>rem
>well written
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>>145553480
Not implying: I'm saying it. Netoge last season, Dagashi Kashi before that, picking up girls in a dungeon... All nice-guy betas. Sometimes otaku themselves or "aspiring mangaka" etc. Badass MCs are for teens.

>>145553613
All exclusively used to make bad guys appear bad. Ergo, sex = bad. Kirito himself is mostly uninterested. The stuff with Asuna is fairly innocent romance (they even have a daughter).

Random ass shots aren't "sexual situations"; the characters don't acknowledge it so the (younger) viewer doesn't have to feel awkward.

>>145553615
So does pokemon. Not aimed at otaku
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>>145554160
I'm gonna guess its the episode 4 Qualidea Code flavor of edge (but worse) that purges 99.9% of the already tiny audience.
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>>145554282
>So does pokemon. Not aimed at otaku

Are you retarded? Pokemon is a 20 year old multimillionaire franchise so of course it has lots of porn. How the fuck are you even making that comparison?
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>>145554282

then you're wrong. otakus also enjoy badass MCs which is why the likes of lelouch and kamina were topping newtype back in the day.
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>>145523381
Isekai anything
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>>145554282
>Netoge last season, Dagashi Kashi before that, picking up girls in a dungeon
What? None of those were all that popular outside of doujinshi-fuel, and their MCs certainly weren't popular. It's like you just listed three random anime from the last two years involving beta MCs and thought that was somehow an argument.
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>>145555634
See
>>145523381
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>>145555823
Araragi is a manwhore who cheats on his girlfriend. I wouldn't call him a nice guy.
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>>145553429
>/a/ loves isekai
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Anything Kyoani
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There's nothing wrong with otaku pandering. They are what keeps the industry alive. Go back to /v/ or /tv/ circlejerk about Cowboy Bebop, you fucking normalshit cunts.
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>>145556599
/tv/ hates anime though. Even Berserk and Eva threads get ridiculed over there.
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>>145552978
>Sacred Seven
Boring Megaman

> Asterisk
Boring battle harem

>Active Raid
Surprisingly kind of okay. A few eps are weak, but others are decent and a couple have been great.
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>>145555823
>Araragi
>nice-guy beta
But he has a girlfriend and ogles/gropes people constantly.
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>>145553429
>any recent/modern isekai anime
>worse than SAO
What?
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>>145523381

OP, you forgot your

> pic unrelated
You'd have a case if you were talking about Nise, that was just insulting
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>>145540960
K-On was made by girls and has a much larger female fanbase than something like Madoka for instance.
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>>145557444
Nise was super interesting, fuck everyone. Top tier ecchi.
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>>145524289
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>>145556283
But it does? Of the last half decade's isekai - Log Horizon, Ixion Saga, Mondaiji, Overlord, and KonoSuba have all had positive reception on /a/, Re:Zero currently has shitposting and falseflagging every which way from both sides, Grimgar had average to mediocre reception, and NGNL is the only one that's had a solidly negative overall response. /a/ shits on the thousands of isekai WNs/LNs that get made, but the handful of isekai anime coming out generally get decent responses.
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The only right answer is virtually anything Aniplex carried and markets
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>monogatari
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>>145537684
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>>145558402
I think you're a bit deluded about how much stuff Aniplex is behind. Either that or you think everything from Working to KokoSake to NNT is otaku pandering.
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>>145558505
Monogatari isn't "deep" and nobody ever says it is. That's a meme strawman. You retards just misinterpret the characters and dialogue having some substance to it as "trying to be deep" because you're retarded.
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>>145523381
Anything typemoon.
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>>145523381

Love Live
Infinite Stratos
REE: Zero
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>>145523381
>posted 15 hours ago
rest in peace /a/
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>>145524289
>monogatari is deep
>worst fanbase on /a/
I love these memes.
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This shit right here. It's kyoani saying "Hey, lets make a fucking generic battle harem, no need to try anything actually good. We're kyoani people will love the shit out of it, even if they hate other battle harems, the otaku will come up with some reasons as to why ours is 'different', they shall eat our shit and thank us for it!"

And you know? They were fucking right
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>>145524532
Yeah this is what popped into my head right away
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>>145523381
You're favorite anime which is also shit.
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>>145524289
>pornogatari
>considered to be the fucking worst fanbase on /a/
Nigger, at least lurk before posting on a place you obviously don't belong to, your new is showing.
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>>145528036
This post represents most of what's wrong with niggers and shitposters on /a/.
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>>145545096
Shut the fuck up Miyazaki, off yourself already.
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Everyone who posted on this thread should be dead, just saying.
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>>145523381
Post Nichijou KyoAni shit
Excluding Hibike, I don't like it but it's pretty decent
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>>145558505
Monogatari is watch some idiots converse
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>not using sage on a dead thread
Stop using necromancy faggots.
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>Monogatari has a bad fanbase

Maybe like 3 years ago but now it's one of the better ones.
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>>145562844
>autism

who cares
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>>145562901
Not you obviously.
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>>145539294

You've just described every post-SoulTaker Shinpoo.
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>>145523381
I mean, you're not even wrong. But fuck you, the time travel arc in 2nd season is a legitimate fucking masterpiece.
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>>145524289
>No wonder your kind is considered to be the fucking worst fanbase on /a/.
Unlikely since Jojofags exist
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>>145540584

How is that pandering? Even if you did see it at Anime Expo, it boggles my mind it you came to the conclusion it panders to weebs. Maybe art/cinematography fags but not otaku.
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Literally no one will give you props for having more "mature and intellectual" taste in anime. That just sounds so fucking stupid, it's got to be the most retarded reasoning for limiting your enjoyment ever.

If other people are gonna judge your intelligence by anything, it would probably be your job.
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>>145566920
> 2D erotica is the only possible form of entertainment in anime
> Enjoying a well written and themed fiction is stupid
You are a caricatural example of the reasons that make this medium and its fandom always so disrespected.
If anime and porn are the only source of your sexual arousal, you should really reconsider your life.
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>>145565791
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>>145543695
>talking shit about texhnolyze
baka
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>>145567945
The point I was trying to make is that there's no merit in exclusively enjoying the well written stuff. If that is your personal taste, so be it.

I like anime on both sides of the spectrum. Sometimes I want to watch something thought provoking, other times I want to shut my brain off. What's wrong with enjoying the simpler stuff?

If someone's going to be all condescending to me for liking both, I'll punch them in the face.
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>>145523766
this. Usually I have nothing against pandering to your audience but this garbage was nothing but a fapfiction, something you find on fanfiction.net
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>>145523381
All of my friends know that i like anime,
but damn id kill myself if they found out i like monogatari
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>>145570146
honestly you should kill yourself for liking monogatari
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>>145524002
is koimonogatari released as an anime yet?
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>>145524715
I hope your lineage dies out so that humanity is guaranteed a better future
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>>145572129
You won't have a better future when there's garbage like that infecting our youth.
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>>145540960
K-ON actually caused a ''light music club" boom in Japan's high school. Also girls make up quite a large part of K-ON's fanbase.

Haruhi and Lucky Star on the other hand is definitely otaku-pandering.
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So what I take from this thread is that every single anime is pandering.
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>>145523766
Seconded.
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>>145572518
>Also girls make up quite a large part of K-ON's fanbase.

You can say the same thing about pretty much every popular series. Haruhi and Bakemonogatari also have a plenty of fangirls.
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>>145572518
>women cant be otaku scum
nice meme
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>>145572588
No, if anything, this thread shows how bad a stigma the word otaku has, when it originally only meant to refer to people who's into something.
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>>145572982
K-On aired on Disney Japan and and a good portion of its fanbase admitted to not being anime fans in general.
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>>145524715
I liked Nisekoi
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test
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>>145534926
>unironically liking kirito
fah
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>>145572588

"Every" is only a slight exaggeration these days.
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>>145576309
You forgot to tag the edgy shit.
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>>145523381
My little Sister... blah blah blah

Shit made an entire industry to get lazier and lazier with their meta garbage to pandering to otakus.
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>>145557430
The series 99% of the people drop because of dumb episode 1-4 plot twists are always worse than SAO.
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shounen shit
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>>145562414
He's right though.
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>>145567945
>pretending to have good taste

Pretty much the same as e-celebs who dick ride FotM shit while ripping on SAO. Sure SAO is bad but blind FotM dickriding is also pretty bad too.
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Evangelion, LotGH, Ping Pong, Tatami Galaxy, Monster, Mushishi, Utena, Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop.
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>>145575416
>unironically not being neutral towards Kirito

There's nothing to feel.

>>145579395
Oreimo is the physical embodiment of normalfag jimmy rustling. People expected a cute slightly higher budget romcom about "otaku" things then the incest became real and it lives in infamy like SAO but its unironic fans are incestfags rather than western schoolkids and simple-minded nips
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>>145579718
Eva IS otaku pandering though.
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>>145524532
0/10
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>>145554266

This.

They fucking blew it.

Still salty about Rem getting turned into moeblob waifubait.
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>>145575416
I can't think of a single reason to hate him.
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>>145576309
yep. anime is dead
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Strike Witches
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>>145579508
that's for kids
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>>145528420
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>>145579813
NO, that isn't the point. The anime sold well because it was anime otaku pandering, literally. Having cute characters caring about otaku hobbies is not just clear pandering but also really bad and simple one. Regardless of how the story ended the series still open the door for imitators that would basically play with the same premise with otaku culture at the center of the plot, with otakus or people invested in the culture (usually atractive girls as well) and then develop a retarded meta narrative around it.

But since it was a financial success then more and more started to copy this "style" of pandering where now you see it everywhere. Shit is hilarious and horrible at the same time.
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>>145579499
> The series 99% of the people drop because of dumb episode 1-4 plot twists
Okay, but what does that have to do with isekai? I can't think of a single post-2010 isekai that fits that description.
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>>145576309
>literally everything with cute girls is otaku-pandering, even if it's a shoujo manga from a magazine that targets literal elementary schoolers
>literally everything with cute guys is fujo-pandering, even if it's a fucking reverse harem
We have officially reached the buzzword tipping point where these words mean absolutely nothing anymore.
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>>145583549
> Unironically using "literally"

12-sai is the only shoujo labelled as moe. Maybe you stopped reading there since It's the first one on the list. Other titles with non-moeshit cute girls weren't labelled as such.

Sadly, It's quite accurate I think.
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>>145582208
Monogatari also does through in one or two sakuga scenes among the powerpoint pages.
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