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Where were you when Freyja got put in a corner and BTFO by Mirage?
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>>145358717
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>>145358724
frshshhsh lewd delet.
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>>145358717
I see Freya being a weapon of mass destruction a good sign for her her relationship with Hayate, I mean he's got it in his genes to fuck with such dangerous objects.
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>>145358858
Honorary Belkan girl. A living weapon, truly a Belkan dream. LONG LIVE BELKA
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>only 7 eps left and we still don't know about Lady M
The merchant was talking about her.
Mikumo might be the final boss of this series.
Mirage is slowly becoming relevant.
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>>145358896
Why do you post like a shitty cancer from /v/?
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>>145359058
>shitty cancer from /v/
>implying /a/ is better
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>>145359095
Don't even bother trying to fit in. Just kill yourself.
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>>145358717
>>145359038
I told you retards. The first one to get close to hayate loses. Mirage will have a come back win, it's always the case.
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>>145359095
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>>145359263

In order to have a comeback you had to have been relevant at some point.
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>>145358717
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Is this a good way to describe Macross 7 to someone who don't know about it?
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>>145358724

Despite how cute this pairing is, it makes absolutely no goddamn sense. Half of their time together was spent with them completely shitting on each other for not doing such and such right and talking shit to each other. The other half is about her mulling teen romance for the first time in her life while hes just trying to get a woman's input shopping or planning an event for Freyja.
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>>145359377
"Power of rock saves the day"
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>>145359377
tf2 micspammers
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>>145359377
Autistic musician defeats unkillable aliens
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>>145359377

Macross 7 is basically you being locked in a room listening to Dragonforce until you learn to like it.
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>>145359382
Hayate still respects the shit out of Mirage, however Mirage is head over heels for him at this point.
I love Mirage spilling her spaghetti, I think is fucking cute, but I feel broken seen her sad when it comes to Hayate.
Mirage x Keith when?
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>>145359540
> Mirage x Keith when?
If only works with spanish guitars.
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This episodes doesn't seems to answer a lot of questions. We still don't know why Mikumo is called "The Macross."
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>>145359706

Shes a next generation battleship. I thought that was obvious.
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>>145359752
She is an android according to the merchant.
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>>145359805

Oh so a battleship can be a giant punching robot but it can't be an android?
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>>145359752
I want to man her bridge
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What is the title of the next ep?
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>>145359954
Hayate Dies
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Maybe this is the equivalent to when Ranka sang Seikan Hikou, saved Alto, and BTFO Sheryl.
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>>145360044
Episode 16 is Freyja's Seikan Hikou
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>>145358717
wtf I hate Mirage now
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>>145358717
sleeping i forgot it was sunday
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>>145359977
In magma?
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>>145360229
>miragefags
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If Mirage wins, what the hell was the point of all those manga implying otherwise? That's some fucked up shit, Kawamori!
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>>145360525
>If
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>>145360525
The one you posted is from the anthology though.
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Do you remember love, /a/nons?
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freyjafags BTFO
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EVILLLLLLL
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>>145360665
It did not even take an entire episode, just a few minutes

Now Freyjafags will say that its just the writers throwing a bone
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>>145360568
anthology does not mean non-canon, or does it?
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One of the songwriters when she was told about the story said she wanted to make a bright song for a tragic girl.
The development in the latest episode is a sign of the good things ending for little hoina and I think Kawamori is trying to make her into the Little Mermaid.
Mirage will emerge victorious because hoina can't sing anymore, and hoina will turn into fold foam because she won't betray her friends and go back to Winderemere.
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>>145360633
I can't remember something i never had
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>>145360836
> hoina will turn into fold foam
NO
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>>145360883
Holyshit so cute. Always feel great to be Freyjafag. She always cheer my heart up.
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>>145360883
Ultra cute! More Freyja, please
And some Kaname! And Mirage
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>In the TV series the resolution was brought about by Minmay’s song but in the movie, due to the 2 hour restriction, I had to simplify it down. Although the song did bring about an alliance, the last boss had to be beaten by weapons in the end. That ending I regret.”

>That regret resulted in a new Macross series ten years later known as Macross 7, where the protagonist was Nekki Basara, who is constantly singing and never uses weapons. So in terms of the positive side of a song can bring, this is something that Nekki Basara did. As for the negative side, I thought about things like mind control and that’s how the AI Sharon Apple for Macross Plus came about.

Kawamori on songs and shit
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>miragefags get pissed their girl doesn't get focus in a series where she has no reason to be focused on and calls it bad writing
>freyjafags just enjoying all the vanilla throughout the anime
>story is just fine, with lots of cool moments and great music
>mirage finally gets her moment with hayate that was already a given
>"TAKE THAT FREYJAFAGS. BTFO"
>mfw I'm just enjoying all the great Freyja moments we're getting throughout
I know it's not all Miragefags, but really nigga.
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>>145361063
Let them have their moment, we all know who'll get her husbando in the end.
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SUBS WHEN
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>>145361063
>Freyja Wion
You can't win against someone who has it in their name. Heck, she even has "won" in her name, too, so we can make fun of Miragefags after the fact.
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>>145358724
dude spoil that shit too lewd for this board
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>>145359706
She was the original Miss Macross
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>>145361220

Delayed.
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>>145358724
Mirage masturbates over Hayate's comatose body
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Do people truly think of Mirage as the mature one when she's supposed to be a professional soldier with lives at stake but she's freaking out at having to touch Hayate, spazzing out at holding his hand, sighing and throwing bitch face at everyone because he's not dating her?
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>>145360229
Seikan hikou is a great Ranka strike back after she got BTFO by Sheryl for 7 episode isn't it? God bless you is not the same.
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>>145361249
Freyja is an EVIL She kills people with her songs
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>older thread and new one about shippwars.
>nothing about plot.

So what's up with Roid?
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>>145361059

I don't regret that ending. To this day, it remains one of my favorite climaxes in a mecha series/movie.
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>>145361395
We're waiting for subs.
Also Roid totally planning Gramia's death almost confirmed.
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>>145361395
Still waiting for sub, gg gonna delay again.
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>>145361350
No, Kawamori likes to make the 'weaker ones' win according to him.
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>>145361378

Ranka killed more people in the final battle for Macross Frontier than Freyja ever will - especially since Windemere is only willing to field 6 pilots at any given time.
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>>145361378
RUNE PIKAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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I hope some artist gets the same idea from this episode and draws a box full of kumos
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>>145361395
Roid is Aizen. Everything went according to his keikaku
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>>145361395
It's more or less confirmed Gramia's death is on his hands. CONSPIRACY AND SHIT. Doctor guy wants to warn Keith.

>yfw if he somehow poisoned Gramia's mind to start this war when he was barely alive in bed
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>>145361378
I'm so jelly got told in the face that the thing Freyja and Mikumo love is a weapon.
>>145361467
Can I disagree this? I don't want to accept that Sheryl is weaker than Ranka or Sara is weaker than Mao.
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>>145361553
>Looking back now, why do you think Alto chose Sheryl in the end?
>Well, his feelings towards Ranka had become something akin to that of an older brother’s. Furthermore, if you think about it, Sheryl is actually the weaker one. Although she appears strong, it’s like she’s just putting up a front.
>So although Alto had originally thought that she was strong, when he came to know her weaknesses, I think he just felt something tug at his heart. You could say that he was fascinated by that gap between what he originally thought and the reality* (laughs).

After episode 20, Ranka broke off with Alto and went to do her own thing while Sheryl cling to him because she needed him. Yes, Ranka got captured by Grace but those are plot developments rather something on her personality trying to be needy. I don't mean this in a bad way, because I prefer Sheryl over Ranka.
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>>145361521

He allowed a dying old man to take to the battlefield on the command bridge. Of course its on his hands. But it doesn't seem like there are any better candidates to run the head of state. And strictly speaking objectively, the boy king is already expending his lifespan so the best opportunity to establish Windemere hegemony throughout the galaxy is to use him up in this short time frame while finding a way to mass mind control everyone in the galaxy.

You can't really argue it as evil either since there is no real alternative to UN rule. There is no competing power in the galaxy who can keep the UN Spacy in check from curbstomping noncompliant planets. This is the natural consequence to oppressive rule.

The only thing you can really argue as being wholly immoral was Windemere resorting to galactic warfare as a first course of action instead of a last course of action. No one will dare call Windemere friend at this point.
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>>145361475
What if it turns out she was the reason the deater was dropped?
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>>145361519
Really?
I can't understand what's thinking Roid. Can he really think he can conquer the whole universe with a few knights and with Heinz almost dead? He isn't even telling anything to Keith at least.

At this rate Keith is going to defect.
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>>145361553
>>145361798

Everyone got shafted in some way. The love triangle was so conflicted that by the end of Frontier, my first preference was Ranka x Sheryl because they fit into each other so well. It was Sheryl who slapped sense into Ranka, after all.
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>>145361928
Keith just wanted to kick some NUNS' ass and his nigga went full conqueror and killed his dad.
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>>145361928
>At this rate Keith is going to defect.
Yes, please. He is too handsome to be a bad guy
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>>145361931
That's why we got movie.
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>>145361928

Theoretically speaking if this protoculture weapon can mind control all protoculture races throughout the galaxy in real time or near real time, he could literally have non-hair-cancer beings be sung to death. Wiping out the entire galaxy and replacing it with Windemereans would totally be in his playbook.
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>>145362008
>>145361928

Would they really welcome the guy who slew Messer?
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>>145361350

Depends on your definition of mature. Mirage is more analytical and overthinks things which makes her bad with emotions while Freyja is better at dealing with her feelings but isn't very rational.
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>>145362063

If Alto can make up with his rival then this is totally possible.
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>>145361798
>she needed him

And they said in a later episode, Hayate needs Freyja. But Mirage is appearing weaker and more vulnerable. So is Freyja though. Dammit I don't know what to think.
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>>145359706
>This episodes doesn't seems to answer a lot of questions. We still don't know why Mikumo is called "The Macross."
Of course. We only got Berger's theories this episode. We won't get actual answers until we get the facts.
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>>145362063
If Keith hadn't reacted with anything but awe and respect to Messer, I'll say no, but he did. He misses Messer more than any of them. Hayate might be angry first, as would Kaname, but Keith isn't a bad person. They are just in a war. People die in it and have reasons to fight. Hayate understood Qassim when he said he couldn't forgive him when they fly. He knows all have reasons to fight now.
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>>145360362
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>>145362199
Freyja can pull herself together. Mirage just broke down she can't deal without Hayate.
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>>145361350
>Do people truly think of Mirage as the mature one when she's supposed to be a professional soldier with lives at stake but she's freaking out at having to touch Hayate, spazzing out at holding his hand, sighing and throwing bitch face at everyone because he's not dating her?
Mirage, being a Meltran, could very likely have a lower mental age than the average human purely due to her longer natural life span. It would not have been an issue back when all Meltran are cloned fully-formed and with implanted intelligence, but now that Meltrans are reproducing the issue of mental age could matter. Frejya is way more mature than her physical age, so why couldn't the reverse be true for Mirage?
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>>145361460
>>145361521
We don't know (yet) if he killed Gramia or not. Maybe the only thing he did wrong was take the command of Windermere (under Heinz as a king) when Gramia revoked him before.

What if he wanted Keith to take command and not Roid?
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For the people saying that Mirage and Hayate always have the serious talk while Freyja doesn't, that is because the serious topics are more suitable towards Mirage. Let's talk about some of the topics.

>Hayate's first kill

Mirage is a pilot just like Hayate so, she obviously can relate to him very well and help him out when she herself had her first kill. Freyja is just an idol so, the serious talk wouldn't be fitting for her.

>Messer's death

He's a pilot in a squad that is the same as Mirage and Hayate. Of course Mirage would be more suitable to talk to.

>Hayate's dad caused nuke

Yeah, no. He's not going to be talking right away to the one he feels very guilty about knowing his dad nuked her planet.

>Current situation

I don't really need to explain this do I? Freyja has a good reason not to be all comfortable talking to Hayate. It's still pretty clear that Hayate still doesn't see anything in Mirage besides being a great friend when he's always openly touching her without feeling anything such as the hug previously and the holding hand.
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>>145362370
After this episode it's look like Freyja can't dealing with this problem because Muslim faggot throw a "Song that you love is a weapon and you're harming your boy." theory in her face. I hope someone will encourage her, maybe Mikumo.
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>>145362465

We're not even sure Mikumo is still going to be the same person when she wakes up.

More likely Hayate or Kaname will reassure her. Or Makina and Reina will do it... sexually.
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>>145360550
Wow, he still doesn't feel anything towards her at all! No blushes or hesitation to show feelings. Nice BTFO!
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>>145362370

Mirage's breakdown was a long time coming. She already had problems when people kept expecting great things of her due to her bloodline. No one ever acts like they respect her for her piloting skills, and she never seems like a threat on the battlefield.
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>>145362535
That's some kind of damage control. We can't deny that it's a very intimate scene even he's not blusing.
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Why y'all fighting over HayaFre vs HayaMira. HayaFre definitely has more development at this point but there's still more episodes to come. Personally I can only see HayaFre becoming stronger after this but I'm not going "HayaFre is end game".

In the end, it could be anyone's game or we may even get sky end since Delta puts a huge focus on chasing your dreams.

Freyja realizes she wants to sing forever
Hayate realizing he just wants to fly
Mirage realizing she's best standing on her own two feet

Plot twist: Freyja goes for Mikumo. ShinpiHoina Endgame
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>>145362643
>not OT3 Shinpi/Heinz/Hoina
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>>145362624
Ok then what do you say about the many more intimate scenes Hayate and Freyja had together? Including Hayate's blushes and his hesitation of reaching his hand out for Freyja during her Birthday?
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>>145362717
How dare you tarnish my ShinpiHoina ship with that Shota Heinz
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>>145362535
>compares her to his mom
>not BTFO

Another Freyjafag on suicide watch
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>>145362773

Just think of him as a girl with a benis.
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>>145362725
I just want to said that it's not an actual BTFO, Hayate didn't ask about Freyja after he woke up or whispering Freyja when he sleeping. He also thanks to her.
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>>145362816
What? That means nothing besides her reminding him of his own mom. Do you assume people have a crush on you when they say, "you're like my mom."
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>>145358717
>Miragefags are still this late into the game
Mirage will win. Give up already.
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>>145362990
It's a some kind of Kawamori's fetish. Alto also see Sheryl as his mom. I'm kinda aware that it gonna be some /u/ end because Hayate comparing Freyja with his dad.
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>>145362957
Nice damage control retard. I bet if it was Mirage's scenes instead, you would be saying the exact same shit about freyjafags being Btfo.
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>>145363158
Damage control wut? HayaFre surely got so many intimate scene. The point I want to say is that hospital scene is ont a BTFO scene, the actual BTFO scene is in episode 14.
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>>145363037
>will
should be won't*
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>>145361428
PROTOCULTARE
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>>145363991
プロトカルチャー
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Will Boogie ever meet his Idolfu in person?
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>tfw Mikumofag
>tfw out of the running from the very start
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>>145365378
>Bogue walks up to Reina with no murderous intent
>"I...volunteer my services to you. I am now knight"
>Reina looks away and blushes hard

Please make it happen Kawamori. I think these two might be the Max and Milia of the show. Makes sense too because Bogue is the biggest hater out of the other knights.
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>>145365666
Wow forgot the "your" before "knight". Welp I failed.
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>>145358717
I love Mirage and want her love to win.

Writers at least didn't made her a villain or try to make people hate her.
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>>145365512
>>tfw Mikumofag
>>tfw out of the running from the very start
Mysterious females tend to not get the guy unless she is literally the main girl.
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>>145365666
But I want to see blushing Bogue with blank face Reina.
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>>145365810
Why would Mikumofag want her to win the MC bowl?
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>>145365666
I think Reina would just go along with it, and find it funny instead of blushing.
She would start to care for him after a while, though. That would be sweet.
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>>145365951

What could teach her to be human more than falling in love? Maybe she can cuck Kaname and end up with Arad. They do fly in the plane together.
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>>145366144
Same could be said for the blank faced Reina if she meets her knight.
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>>145360883
Is that spooky boogie?
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>>145365951
for bragging rights i suppose
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>>145365512
>Mikumo gets brainwashed
>only remembers Hayate
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Will the sales tank if the hoina loses?
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>>145367228
No
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>>145367228
Hoina is more popular but I'm not sure if the triangle result gonna affect the sale or not. If hoina lose I still buy the album because I love hoina.
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>>145366144
>What could teach her to be human more than falling in love?
Yeah, that's a pretty good reason. It could be really heartwarming to see the mysterious/inhuman girl form a romantic connection like that.
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>>145362990
Well in Delta novel, Freyja remind him of his own dad.

So yeah, FreMira end confirmed.
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>>145367949
SHOUJIKAWAMORIII
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>>145366144
>old and busted Arad
>not wanting her become Queen of Windermere with her shota boytoy
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>>145368016

But then who will cuck Kaname?
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>>145368071
Arad will fall in love with Jellyfish Messer.
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>>145368071
Ernest
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>>145365666
>blushes
>implying she wouldn't just drag him into her and Makina's sex dungeon and make him their toy
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>>145358717
I love Mirage with all my heart but for fucks sake OP, you are just an asshole, don't try to make people hate each other.

Might not be a popular theory around here but I think it's the resonance between her rune and the jewel that's confusing Hayate's feelings a little.

He will keep his special connection to Freyja and cares deeply about her but the final step has been a little of involuntary mind control Var from her side.

I hope Mirage can build some happiness with Hayate, and Freyja still to have a very happy and long life since Mikumo will be fixing Windermere lifespan problems and she'll stay forever with Freyja most likely.
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>>145368481
>Freyjashitters keep making Mirage shitposting OPs

Fuck off
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>>145362957
>Implying he won't start asking about Freyja after holding hands with Mirage which is a even bigger BTFO.
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>>145368481
>fix lifespan problems
But we don't want this to happen.
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>Mirage getting yet another loser flag
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>>145368637
He might ask about her after notice that she's not there but in that scene he just thanks to Mirage and cut to Freyja holding mp3 which made me dead inside a little bit.
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>>145368761
No, Sheryl got this one too.
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>>145368832

But Ranka also went to see Alto in the hospital.
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Does Hayate even like Freyja that way? All he ever says is that he likes her songs.
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>>145368866
>triangle
Sasuga
>>145368886
Freyja get out from imoutozone after made him blushed. Still not sure if he already see her in that way.
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First piece of HayaMira art since that episode. It's already happening.
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>>145369025

That art is pretty ugly.

Like Mirage.
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>>145369046
Rude
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>>145368761
Or a winner flag. Misa visited him too.
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>>145369108
Yep, as shown by the flowers.
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So basically, Mirage visiting Hayate in the hospital is significant, but it could be either a winner or loser flag.
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Luckily I like both Mirage and Freyja so, I don't really care who wins but I think it's still going to be really sad for the loser. Especially if it's Freyja since she seems to have it a lot rougher than Mirage. Her short life span is so shitty and for her to lose would just be plain bullying. To make things worse, now it seems like the songs she is singing is a weapon.
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>>145369223
So long as others don't have to prod Freyja into visiting him then she's fine.
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Did we ever get the bunch of images that was suppose to be in this magazine?
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>Having to wait another week for the new episode

Sigh, it really sucks guys. I just want to know who's going to win the triangle already so, I can sleep in peace.
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>>145369409
After what Hayate said about living life to the fullest, Freyja should win. The fact that'd he choose her would be heartwarming. He doesn't care about how short their time will be, they at least enjoyed it. But it seems we're on our way to a traditional end. Older military chick will win. Whatever, she's meltran so it's all good, I guess.
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>>145369409
She is the heroine that gets everything regarding to story, has to suffer and overcome her difficulties. I'm fine if he doesn't end up with Hayate. I will be sad for her, but she will keep going on living her life. Hayate can be part of her happiness but he is not her happiness. In contrast with Mirage who is dependent on him and can't do much if he is not around.
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>>145369799
**If she doesn't end up
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>>145369726

Meltran by this point are just knife-earred humans. If Hayate ended up with that cat loli from Voldor or Chuck's sister it would be more interesting.
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Mirage a qt!
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>>145369799

What the fuck kind of reasoning is this for why Mirage should win? "Oh Hayate and Freyja have this deep connection and inspire each other to go to new heights and have a great relationship but it's OK if Freyja loses because she has her own life while Mirage is pathetic as fuck and can't do anything without Hayate?"

This is like that episode of the Simpsons where it turns out that without Marge, Homer is completely incapable of living and he tells her he has nothing to offer but complete and total dependence. Is that really what Mirage's selling point is? That she's a massive loser?
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>>145369799
>In contrast with Mirage who is dependent on him and can't do much if he is not around.
That's exactly why that pairing is shit though.
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What was Kaname trying to do with those lines during Hametsu no Junjo?
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>>145369954
> Is that really what Mirage's selling point is? That she's a massive loser?

To me, yes? I don't dislike her but when I compare her to Freyja she doesn't have something going on. She has done nothing to the plot, all her 'development'is towards Hayate and her feelings, her self esteem problems were never addressed again and in this episode she wants Hayate to wake up because she can't deal with this alone.

Yes, she was there to support him in difficult moments, I give her that. But her and Hayate never went through difficulties to test their relationship or make it stronger.
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>>145369861
Maybe if Haya and Mira decided to become giants!
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>>145370319
Holy shit, not even Hayate went that far.
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>>145370319
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>>145370319
Oh god she's touching it! More pages???
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>>145370319
>>145370369
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy
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>>145370319
>>145370369
omfg stop posting porn
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>>145370369
Mirage needs to take responsibility, now Freyja can never get married.
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>>145370369
Someone translate pls
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Is Mikumo one of these ones or a new one created from scratch by Lady M?
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So apparently there will finally be some Messer merchandise
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>>145370151
She gets fuck all because she's still a side character at this point.
Having her win out of pity for her is incredibly stupid.
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>>145371144
They should've known people would love Messer once it was revealed he was a kind hearted idolfag all along, under his grumpy no-fun allowed exterior
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>>145358717
Delta still dropped and no-buy list for me because they made Mirage suffer so needlessly this last 3 weeks.
I can only wish for her happiness now but will be back once it's all over not right now,

see you later space anons
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>Roid and Keith rubbed runes
That was way too lewd for television
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>>145371223
It's still a win at the end. She supported him in moments and that's it. If Hayate develops feelings for her, it will be because of this.
>>
SUBS WHEN
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>>145371289
Agreed, I think they expected him to be somewhat popular but underestimated how much, but hey better late than never I guess
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>>145371144
>shadow messer
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I know this was a literal slideshow episode, but I didn't mind having a little exposition break after the crazy shit that happened in episode 18.

I doubt the Windimujaheddin guy was telling the truth without ulterior motives
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>>145371627
I wasn't ready for the SDF backtrack drop.
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>>145371726
I might have said this already, but I got NOSTALGIAhard hearing SDF Macross OP
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Oh wow.

>[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_19_[6868B836].mkv
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>>145371859
FUCK YOU
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>>145371627
How many breaks have we had now?
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So Mirage reminds Hayate of his mother. You think he reminds her of Max? Blue haired pro pilots can only come ever so often. You guys think maybe she fantasizes about grandaddy?
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>>145372157
>You guys think maybe she fantasizes about grandaddy?

Incest aside, since it's Max I wouldn't blame her.
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>>145371888
What happened?
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So what is the happy merchant's true objective?
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>>145372495
>So what is the happy merchant's true objective?
Well, officially Windermere is a uniquely plentiful source of fold quartz. So maybe he just wants to strip mine the place?
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>>145372495
Shekels
How is this even in question?
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Is this Kumo's part time gig?
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>>145372310
Fuck you to the liar.Even I know that gg gonna delay I still go check on their site.
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>>145372495
seems like he just desires knowledge
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Poyopacho is making a Kaname doujin
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>>145372495
>>145372572
>>145372588
>>145372907
Better question, why did he infodumb all this to Chaos? What does he get from doing this?
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>>145373026
To sell the mercat watch.
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>>145373026
>UTA WA HEIKI
>protagonist: oh no
>drama happening
Das it.
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>>145373114
>selling watches of Mirage's hideous seacat
The ways of the spacejew is a mystery to me
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>>145373380
isn't he a spacemuslim?
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>>145373114
I think he is the actual protagonist and is trying to stop the villains (Nuns, Chaos, and Windies).
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>>145373114
I want that clock
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>>145373026
Wanted to get info on Mikumo at the same time
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>>145373114
Is he also selling the green tentacle thingy?
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>>145370319
>>145370369
Macross /u/ confirmed
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>>145373461
is berger the real hero we deserve?
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>>145373910
No, he shitting on music and ShinpiHoina. Fuck the muslim faggot.
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>>145374004
Fuck idols
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>>145374097
Fuck off, Bogue
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>>145370319
>>145370369
>Hayate's new parents
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>>145374150
>implying Bogue is not being a Reinafag
secretly
>>145374161
KAWAMORIIIIII
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>>145362033
Wasn't that exactly the plot to Macross Frontier

HACK
A
C
K
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>touching runes is blatantly sexual by Freyja's reaction
>Roid and Keith rub theirs

Is the "like a brother/sister" a new word for gay lover in Macross? Like 'cousin' in Sailor Moon dub?
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>>145374308
I bet it's like hitting your buddy's butt. It's a bit gay but it's more of a brotherly thing to do. Besides they can communicate emotions by runes.

I'm surprised though, is lady M pretty much confirmed to be Minmay? Will she come back as a hag to be the final boss? That would be such a bizarre development.
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>Infodump: the episode
>Litterally have the characters gathering and discussing the plot for 15 minutes.
Storytelling at its finest.
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>>145374433
It's more like rubbing your dicks together, anon. It's more than a little gay.
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>Epsilon is also run by Lady M

Makes sense. Alpha, Beta, Delta, Epsilon. What's her end plan? Because Epsilon backed Windermere.
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>>145374522
universal domination through song
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Who is the final boss? Don't tell me Mikumo because she's a tool.
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>>145374603
Roid or Lady M
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Miragefags's shit talking sure died down quickly.
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>>145374817
Waiting for sub.
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Would you trust this man with your little brother?
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>>145374817
They weren't given much ammo in this episode to begin with, but as a freyjafag, I'm still keeping my guard up for potential heart break. So I still predict Mirage will win because tradition.
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>>145374997
He's only into idols, so it's fine
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So besides the revelation that music is a weapon, Freyja getting BTFO, Mirage using Hayate as a way of achieving her incest fantasy about grandpa Max, and Roid possibly being gay for Keith, anyone ever notice the Windermere salute looks exactly like the Zentradi salute?
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>>145375088
It's not giving much ammo but it surely shot right into my heart because I totally forgot how painful it was when you getting BTFO since episode 3. Fuck it's very hurt.
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>>145374997
Would you anon?
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>>145375399
He looks like a fine gentleman, why not?
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>tfw finish building my Siegfried before subs drop
Just have to put stickers on the gunpod, apply all the little details, and build the stand for it.
It's scary trying to transform this thing, everything feels simultaneously too tight and too loose, and I can't get Gerwalk to look right.
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>>145375582
Be aware of rune touching. Just saying.
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>>145375396
How is this btfo? She held his hand while he was sleeping like a coward, or did I miss something in her dialogue?

Freyja just got told her songs are killing Hayate, of course she would stay away for now. She's also worried about Mikumo her home planet fucking everything up and the big reveal about her songs, the dearest things to her, contributing to the spreading of the VAR. Meanwhile, all Mirage ever does is cry on the wounded rookie's bed, hoping he'd get up end everything would be fixed.

Fuck, typing this made me remember that she's the leader of the delta squadron, and she did jack shit since episode 13 except lusting for the dick and being girly.
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>>145376146
To be fair that's at least more than Arad, who always, always disappears when things start happening
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>>145376146
It's just paninful to watch Freyja worrying about her problem while Mirage swoop in and take care of Hayate.
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>>145372157
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>>145372157
Freyja and Hayate make her think of her grandparents, so it'd be kinda weird for her to get involved, and steal her granny's man
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>>145376146
>all Mirage ever does is cry on the wounded rookie's bed, hoping he'd get up end everything would be fixed.
This weak side kinda hurt her character so fucking hard. I want a lone wolf strong female pilot not a weak girly and jobber one.
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>>145372157
That strategy worked for Sheryl too.
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>>145376769
It's okay to have a weak side, she needs to back it with strong skills and personality though, things she's clearly lacking.

>lone wolf strong pilot
That was Messer.
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>>145376821
Alto had issues.
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>>145376985
He was a cross dressing child star in his youth, either one of those alone would lead to a messed up person
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>>145376985
Issues about his Mom. I didn't watch Frontier for a long time. I just remember that his mom is dead and talking about sky.
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>>145376898
It's ok to have a weak side but Mirage's too weak.
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>>145376769
Hayate's a shit pilot without Freyja buffs too.

Honestly it's kind of refreshing to have non-ace pilot protags for a change
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>>145360761
Well, you could say that there it is canon within its own continuity. The only real grey area is when you come to main canon within Macros. There's no definitive continuity of events outside of a few big notes.
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>>145377124
Hayate has a shit skill but he still said that he will fly instead of Messer. The thing Mirage does is begging for Hayate to wake up.
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>>145377163
Also this is the reason why I'm preparing for Mirage end. Freyja has another thing in her life but Mirage's weak and want Hayate. Meh.
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So if Freyja reminds Hayate of his dad and Mirage his mother, what does that mean?
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Best girl got a smash mod
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>>145377124
Like Shin and Hikaru.
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>>145377260
Mak/u/ros/u/ end confirmed.
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>>145376199
He's genre savvy and is dodging all those death flags, anon. Don't blame him. Chuck learned from him.
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>>145377124
Keith is the only adversary he has difficulty with, and with Keith having his doubts I bet the writers will avoid having them butt heads before solving the resonance drama. Now that Hayate doesn't have songbuff backing him they'll make him face Cassim RIP

>>145377319
Based Chuck dumped all his deathflags on his sister.
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>>145377401
>Cassim
H-he just want to go back to his apple farm. ;_;
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>>145375225
Goddamn, Cassim's son is adorable, how he can resist going back home, and giving the boy his first apple tree, I will never know
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>>145377401
>>145377319
Do Chuck and Arad break the 4th wall in secret?
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>>145377439
Wars are never fair.
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>>145377589
>Based boi got cucked and dead
>Useless character still alive
>fucboi gonna survive
>apple bro daddy gonna die
Fuck, wars never fair.
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>>145360742
Dew not bully the robit
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>>145377621
It's not cuckoldry if she never loved him.
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>>145376146
>did Jack shit

Because pretty boy and frejya got their moment
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>>145374433
Well since the research started after Space War 1 several candidates. Eliminating those who are on Megaroad-1... Shammy Milliome married a rich guy and had 11 kids. Chaos is a communications and media company prmarily. Shammy was a communications and tactical air group officer. Mao Nome foremost expert on the Protoculture believed to have perished during the Vajra incident of 2048. They never found the body. Lastly Lady M isn't a single person but an organization dedicated in recreating the miracle of Minmay, Project M, who chose Basara as their singer. That accomplishment led to Tactical Sound Groups such as Fire Bomber, Jamming Birds, Milky Dolls and the Sound Force training center on Macross 7 in Macross 7th Chord where Gamlin is an instructor.
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>>145378014
Animesukidude stop. Lady M is someone who Aisha knows.
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>>145370319
>>145370369
why is their clitoris located on their hair?
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>>145378062
Protoculture's fetish.
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>Lady M
>turns the M upside down
>Lady W
>Lady Walkure
Mikumo is lady M confirmed
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>>145378096
It's for wumbo
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>>145378096
Lady M is:
Minmay
Miranda
Mylene
Mikumo
Mao
Misa
Milia
Myung
A new character
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>>145378051
Aisha knows a lot of people whose names are M. It doesn't mean Macross 30 characters would show up in the anime.
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I hope it's Milia

>[Bully granddaughter]
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Why are gg subs so slow??
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>>145378419
from last week:
>P.S. Delta might be delayed next week as I’m out again
>>
Is this gay?
>>
SUBS
FUCKING
WHEN
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
HS?
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>>145378419
This is pretty normal, for 8 years ago.

Fuck, most subs in the mid-00s took about 3 days to come out apart from speedsubbers who'd get it in the first 12-24 hours.

Modern anime fans are so fucking spoiled. It was even worse in the age of VHS tapes and mail order fansubs
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>>145378543
>horriblesubs
>subbing
>ripping subs for a series that can't get licensed
fucking kek
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>>145378172
lady Milliome

why is she so cute
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>>145378550
>tfw your favorite anime came out one tape at a time and there was no boxed collection
>tfw Del Rey would pick up a manga series and stop translating it half way through

Tears in the rain.
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aaand the entitled oldfags lel are in full force
>>
I hope Mirage wins because Freyja, while cute, does nothing for me. I don't see a MC ending up with a kid in a Kawamori show.
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>>145378663
If Freyja doesn't end up with Hayate, i will get mad.
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>>145378706
Her smile and optimism: gone
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>>145378706
Column 1,3,4,7,16 are the best
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>>145378014
I know why everyone i macross made minmay a goddess but Can she even produce fold waves?
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>>145378706
Do you have a zip file with the separate pictures?
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>>145378663
I love strong and extrovet girl so Freyja all the way.
>>
第23話 残痕 レクイエム
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>>145378550
Doesn't Horrible usually have shows subbed like an hour after?
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>>145379344
>requiem
Someone is dying.
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>>145379374
>Horrible subs
>actually subbing anything
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>>145379390
noooooooooooooooooooo
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>>145379423
what? they do practically every show
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>>145379433
they rip it from crunchyroll, funimation, etc (other simulcast).
for macross delta, it's http://www.ggkthx.org/
it's the same link on hs.
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>>145379433
they don't actually sub the shows themselves you know
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>>145372495
He's voiced by Fujiwara Keiji so i want him to turn into insane mercenary VF pilot.
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>>145374522
She's from Gray Men.
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>>145379433
It's been years, how do people still not understand this?
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>>145376146
This.
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>>145379617
Because anime fans are pigshit dumb
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>>145380182
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>>145380197
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>>145376146
Freiya's VA said that Mirage wins Hayate
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>>145380218
Nice bullshit dumb miranigger.
>>
They're going to release an album on Christmas with Kaname version of all the songs.

SCREENCAP THIS.
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>>145380182
>>145380197
Why so dead inside?
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>>145380218
Yeah, because she's clearly going to spoil the biggest thing for a love triangle anime. What a good way to get fired.
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>>145380197
>Freyja and Keith competing for the mikumo bowl
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>>145373114
In wars, the merchant always wins.
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>>145380182
>>145380197
>>145380217
I'd guess based on this that Freyja's and Keith's stories will be somewhat linked to Mikumo. And as we expected, there might be a Keith vs. Roid showdown coming, but we will see. I still have a hard time seeing Roid as a real bad guy.
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>>145380217
Huh, did they miscolor Roid's hair?
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>>145380317
Oh come on, that doctor in the last episode wanted to tell keith something about Gramia and freaked out when he saw people passing by. Roid definitely planned the king's death.
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>>145380217
Keith's eyepatch looks so stupid.
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>>145380394
Yeah, Gramia's death was really fishy. Does this mean, though, that Roid has a few soldiers on his side? If he really betrayed Keith and the rest of his squad, that's going to hurt a lot.

Also, I think Keith, Herman and Cassim are on the brink of defection, while Bogue and twins just need a good reason to defect too, like finding out Roid has betrayed them.
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UTA WA HEIKI
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アニメージュより
―他に、第20話以降の展開の注目点はありますか?
石川 ストーリー全体で注目していただきたいのは、今まで謎めいた存在だった美雲とは、いったい何者なのか。
そして、それが戦況にどんな影響をこの戦況におよぼしてくのかという点です。
またウィンダミア陣営としては、空中騎士団メンバーのそれぞれの想いも見えてくるので、楽しみにしていただければと思います。
そしてロイドは、自分でも気づかないうちに“野望”に浸食されていく気配が見えてきます。僕もそんな彼を、頑張って表現したいと思います。

NTより
―「マクロスΔ」のストーリーですが結末はすでにご存じですか?
鈴木 誰に聞いても絶対に教えてくれないんですよ(笑)。
―では、鈴木さんの視点でクライマックスの注目点を教えてください。
鈴木 「マクロスΔ」は今までの「マクロス」シリーズと関係が深い作品だと思っています。
なので歴代の「マクロス」シリーズを見ている方は、それぞれのつながりに注目してクライマックスを見ていただきたいなと思います
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>>145380620
I was waiting for this.

Also, the first time they used the "uta wa..." thing was in one of SnT's teaser posters, the magical girl Ranka one.
>Uta wa mahou
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>>145380620
>he came to Chaos because he wanted to audition for Walkure after he heard Mikumo was out but chickened out
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>>145380472
I don't think he betrayed his friend. Their goal is still the same, he was against Gramia's plans and saw an opporunity to kill him and take control.
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>>145380620
Fuck I read it in his voice.
>>
Lesse
Minori is commenting that Freyja loves Hayate, Mirage, and songs but she is thinking that to Freyja there is something more important to her now than romance with Hayate.

There is another question about the triangle, and Minori says how Mirage is becoming more assertive, which is the opposite of Freyja's development, and there's going to be some of that I won't lose to you thing going on.

The interviewer is asking her if she knows how Delta ends, but she says nobody will tell her, but from what she knows from her own character's pov, there is a deeper connection to the other series and that's something to look at as we watch the climax.
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Soon. The true villain will unleash itself.
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>>145363078
If that's true then that's just fucking terrible writing being able to predict who's going to win the triangle by just looking at a old couple's similar scenes. Its just him copying his own works and making them be like the same characters. This is probably going to be my last kawamori work if that's how easily predictable his shit is when you can just go back on his old work to find who's going to win. I want a hard time to figure out who will win and not be given an big obvious hint. We're not even talking about winning by pure development but just because the scenes are similar to a old couple.
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>>145381165
>This is probably going to be my last kawamori work if that's how easily predictable
>When no one actually knows the definite winner of the present triangle.

Yup.
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>>145381100
Where's the source for this?
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>>145381100
>but she is thinking that to Freyja there is something more important to her now than romance with Haya
>>
>>145381165
Then just ignore the flag and enjoy the current show instead or you can think that Hayate didn't obsessed with his mom as much as Alto and Amata did. Das it.
>>
Roid's VA is pointing out that while Keith wants to take back the sky they fly in, Roid wants to take back the sky that is ruled by Windermere, and this is where they will start straying from each other.

Also, the VA says that Mikumo's presence will be a major thing to look out for in the next episodes as well as how she will affect the direction of the war. We will also be getting development for the other knights and see Roid being consumed by his own desires without him realizing it.
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>>145381100
>but from what she knows from her own character's pov, there is a deeper connection to the other series and that's something to look at as we watch the climax.
What did she mean by this?
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>>145381363
>deeper connection to the other series and that's something to look at as we watch the climax.
>What did she mean by this

Past idols will probably make a come back. The war as far as i can see will be in a greater scale as compared to Macross F's second movie.
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>>145381330
>>145381363
Song before dong again? Okay
>>
Is it wrong that I want to cum in Freyja's hoina hole?
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Animage poll
1 Ichimatsu 176 votes
2 Freyja Wion 115 votes
3 Gintoki 92 votes

NT
Male/Female
1 Hayate/Mumei
2 Araragi/Seiba
3 Kirito/Kyoka
4 Josuke/Freyja
5 Jotaro/Rem
6 Atsushi/Nico Robin
7 Gintoki/Hanegawa
8 Ikoma/Senjogahara
9 Gutz/Nami
10 Archer/Asuna
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>>145381439
Yes, hoina is pure.
>>145381476
Always feel great to be Freyjafag.
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>>145381363
>>145381330

Are you guys seriously already believing what an anon says without any? and you do realize how many anons also get translations wrong.
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>>145381568
Without any source*
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>>145381476
Also Mikumo and Hayate tied at 14 on Animage with 48 votes
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>>145381476
>9 Gutz
Guts in the poll? KEK
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>>145381476
Source?
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>>145381100
>Even Freyja's VA have to do damage control
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>>145381476
As I thought, only Hayate and Freyja
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>>145381596
>>145381476
>The three best made it to the poll.
YES
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>>145378866
Macross 30 she can produce Song Energy like the other Songstresses. Dr. Gadget M. Chiba guesstimated her range would be around 30,000 Chiba songs in Macross 7. But Macross 30 shows it is more powerful than that.
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>>145381100
>>145381351
Thanks, anon.

I can't wait to see how all of this develops.
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>>145381551
What about her gori gori hole?
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>>145381100
>Minori says how Mirage is becoming more assertive, which is the opposite of Freyja's development
This is what some anons have been saying in the past threads.
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>>145381823
Yeah, gotta thank an anon with no source.
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>>145381100
>Minori is commenting that Freyja loves Hayate, Mirage, and songs
>Freyja loves Mirage
>Barely interact
>Less emotional connection than Ranka and Sheyl
>Freyja love Mirage
WUT?
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>>145382047
Who knows? Maybe they will start interacting in the remaining 7 episodes. so stuff like this makes sense.
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>>145382181
Okay then, but developing character's relationship in the last 7 episode is kinda bullshit for me.
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>Vajra, one of the main sources of fold quartz, disappear to another galaxy
>Windermere has a big supply of fold quartz
>Runes have fold quartz in them
>The war breaks out one year after Frontier's events
Everything fits. 2ch speculated that maybe NUNS robbed the tombs of Windermereans in search of fold quartz. And to be honest I wouldn't be surprised, since through history humans have done the same.
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>>145382047
Freyja loves everyone.
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When Mr. Berger began spilling the beans regarding to lady M's identity and her shenanigans, he clearly wasn't lying about it although he said it was a rumor. It is indeed the truth based on how he responded with that cheeky expression from his reply. He perhaps wanted the Delta squad to seek the truth themselves.

That ISIS even has NUNS' backing. Damn, the political view in Delta's timeline as a whole is so damn dark and shady.
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>>145382260
Remember how Mr. Birler and Co. was once so obsessed towards Fold Quartz?
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>>145382489
>Damn, the political view in Delta's timeline as a whole is so damn dark and shady.
As opposed to any other timeline?
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>Fold wave is generated by strong emotion
>Fold bacteria
We half starwar and half 40k now?
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>>145382605
>Damn, the political view in Delta's timeline as a whole is so damn dark and shady.
>As opposed to any other timeline?

It is literally a combination of both Plus and Frontier but with shadier plot retroactively.
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>>145359540
>>145359594
Soon
<<Keith, I got a feeling you and me are gonna get along just fine>>
<<buddy>>
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>>145380182
Just as I thought. Mikumo and Freyja are connected the most
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>>145382678
>Fold wave is generated by strong emotion
>Fold bacteria
>We half starwar and half 40k now?

Basara's sound wave is still a mystery to me. I wonder if Dr. Chiba assisted Lady M in her research after the events of Macross 7.
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>>145382757
you can't love a robot.
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>>145380182
>tfw HayaFre's bonding and relationship are bait and switch, the real OTP are ShinpiHoina
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>>145378490
You just realizing that now?
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>>145383166
so frefrey and hayate basically fucked in the snow?
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>>145379344
> 第23話 残痕 レクイエム
Death episode
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is this real?
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>>145383364
It's gonna be Heinz.
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>>145383364
Freyja dies.
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>>145383445
Mirage has really nice tits
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>>145383445
No it's not
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>>145383364
Scar Requiem
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so I found a Mirage doujin, how do I upload it on sadpanda?
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>>145383364
Mikumo sings the song of death.
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>>145383594
Deater time?
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>>145383445
If you mean the figure, yes.
If you mean will she wear like this in the show, i highly doubt it.
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>>145383604
anyone?
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>>145374997
shop him a flu mask and he will look scary as fuck
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>>145368071
Death will cuck Kaname.

I want to believe that the jellyfish master lucked out of the pineapple end, but seeing Messer's death happened in Kaname's birthday makes me believe the writers enjoy making her suffer.
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>>145384161
>>145383604
Create anaccount and upload or contact someone in the chat.
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>>145379344
> 第23話 残痕 レクイエム
>>145383594
>Scar Requiem

The story of Windermerean hole
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>>145384731
>20. Agitating experiment? (terrible shock; agitation; upheaval)
激動 エクスペリメント
>21.Yearning Secret
切望 シークレット
>22. Extreme Brave
極限ブレイブ

so 21 episode's secret is .....
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>>145384671
I already have an account, I don't see an upload button anywhere
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>>145384787
Maybe it's more than one secret.
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>>145384534

Reina can cuck Kaname since Arad and her both love jellyfish.

Lesbians BTFO.
Kanamefags BTFO.
Boguefags BTFO.
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>>145381100
Freyja chooses singing over Hayate confirmed. Mirage has won the bowl.
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>>145381476
>4 Josuke/Freyja
OTP
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>>145384965

>Mirage wins because Freyja gives up

Come on... no one can possibly be happy with this.
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>>145384787
Mikumo's VA mentioned that something bad will happen in episode 20.
>Agitating experiment
maybe it has to do with Mikumo, something about her memories beinng wiped again and freyja or Kaname discovering it at the end.
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Fuck the triangle

Mirage was relevant and had like 15 lines
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>>145381100
>>145384965
Unless they put a oscar award winning level of writing, otherwise not even Miragefags will think her winning the triangle will be make sense.
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>>145384161
why is mirage so cute
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>>145385413
I missed the first half of the stream. What did she say?
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>>145385579
The streams where shit and I cannot into moonrunes
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>>145385615
Oh well, gotta wait then.
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>>145383604
keep us updated
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>>145385579
First half is a muslim guy throwing shit and said that UTA WA HEIKI, Mirage go visit Hayate holding his hand while he sleeping and said that please wake up everything are fucked up.
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>>145385413
Stay butthurt Freyjafag
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>>145385702
>butthurt Freyjafag
Anon he is a miragefag celebrating that Mirage was relevant this ep.
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>>145385688
So her lines were about Hayate only?
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>>145385702
Do you even read?
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>>145381100
>Minori says how Mirage is becoming more assertive, which is the opposite of Freyja's development, and there's going to be some of that I won't lose to you thing going on.
I can confirm this part:
>ミラージュは当初、自分の気持ちをうまく言えなかったのが、変わってきていく。
>最近は自分の意思をはっきりと打ち出すようになってきました。
>フレイアと逆の変化をしているんですよね。
>フレイアはそんなミラージュに対してあこがれや負けたくないという気持ちを抱いていると思います。

But wait, there are only 7 episodes left, how the hell they could make it from Mirage admire Freyja to Freyja admire Mirage?
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>>145386358
I will add the rest comes from here>>145380665
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>>145382737
You are aware what timeline means, right?
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>>145386358
>I won't lose to you
Maybe this is the thing Freyja admires in Mirage whether she wins or loses.
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>>145386575
The Japanese word is "admire and won't lose to you".
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>>145386947
Oh god so are we getting another "you're both my wings" kinda ending? Christ.
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>>145385078
It doesn't sound like what a person who won the bowl would say desu.
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>>145387031
I hope so, all the tears.
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>>145387031
Okay everyone it's end, Kawamori BTFO shippers once again. All of this HayaFre and HayaMira scene are the bait.
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>>145387329
I didn't watch Frontier, can someone explain what does admiring a person has to do with the sky end?
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>>145387499
The competition still continue to make the movie for winner.
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>>145387499
Basically at the end of the series Ranka, who had pretty much lost by then, told Sheryl, who had had some heavy romance scenes with the protagonist in the last episodes, that she wouldn't lose to her either in songs or love. Then the protagonist called the both of them his wings.

And in some interviews the staff said it was pretty clear who Alto had chosen if one paid attention to the series (Sheryl, basically), but there was another interview where the writer said he had left the triangle unresolved on purpose. There as a shitstorm, of course. Sheryl wins in the movies, by the way.
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I doubt Freyja will win in the movies. It's too obvious.
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>>145387747
>Freyja
>win

Never happening
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Are movies even confirmed?
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>>145387848
It's literally on her name
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>>145387657
>>145387657
but Frontier built its popularity around the triangle. The one in delta is described as "pale", so we will certainly get a clear winner before the series ends.

Also according to chinks, Hayate's VA said that hayate will choose in episode 22 so we have 3 weeks to find who te winner is if that is true.
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>>145387870
>flop
>movie
maybe it gets a literal recap movie
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>>145388011
>10k
>flop
It's not selling as strong as Frontier but It's definitely not a flop. Plus CDs are selling like hotcakes.
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>>145387970
>Also according to chinks, Hayate's VA said that hayate will choose in episode 22

That's fake report, not saying he won't choose though(very likely he will choose before it ends), but please don't have high expectation for episode 22.
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>>145388130
Alright then. I hope the drama will be solved soon.
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>>145383639
>Walkure sings the song of death and uses it to make windies kamikaze each other.

I'd love it just to see the looks on dem faces when they realise musical weaponry is a two way street.
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>>145387747
Don't know who gonna win though. The second OP is about resonating also Delta's story is about teamwork and love that transcends star systems(星系を超える熱きチームワークと恋) but Kawamori can't be trust so I'm gonna give up on triangle and enjoy the show instead.
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>>145388314
I mean
星系を超える熱きチームワークと恋の物語
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>>145388124
The show hasn't been doing itself any favors with the pacing of the second cour, but at least for the first volume it should have hit over 13k sales by now (number of people who signed up for the event raffle jumped from 2,000 on the 27th to 5,500 on the 5th). I figure it will settle down to 14k in a month.
There is also the possibility of a sales boost if there is finally a decent payoff for all these low budget buildup episodes, but I wouldn't count on it.
Maybe they could do some more event raffles for future performances.
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>>145380182
So we can expect a Madoka ending.
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>>145388728
yurifag please go
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Man just one episode of Mirage finally getting something to actually do on the show after 13 and everybody loses their shit
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>>145380472
Roid is the leader of the Aerial Knights, the Holy Knight as the Prime Minister. While Keith is the White Knight who only has the White Knight Squad. What the fuck do you think?
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>>145388936
Kawamori is baiting the shippers again..
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>>145363991
I just rewatched DYRL yesterday. Still holds up great
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>>145389042
Yeah, I had forgotten that fact.

Anyways, he clearly is keeping the White Knight Squad in the dark about lots of things. That betrayal is going to hurt.
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>>145380182
What is Freyja to Mikumo?
We know Freyja sees her as a literal idol figure and a mentor but why does Mikumo care about her?
Little sister, kouhai, daughteru, precious hoina she has to protect, girl who can show her a reason to sing?
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>>145377124
>Honestly it's kind of refreshing to have non-ace pilot protags for a change
Except for Isamu, that's normal for macross
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>mikumo and keith on the same cover
>they are together in the main ending of second season

OTP incoming. I can feel it.
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>>145381100
>and Minori says how Mirage is becoming more assertive, which is the opposite of Freyja's development,
I swear to god if they try to pull that same shit with Freyja that they did with Ranka that is "put her at her lowest moment and then she temporarily ends up as part of the bad guys and getting fucked over character-wise" thing, I will probably never watch a Kawas show again
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>>145389416
Assertive about the TRIANGLE. Learn to read. She'll most likely start avoiding Hayate while Mirage is going to advance her relationship with him to win the triangle.
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>>145388011
Did the Stalker threads warp your brain in which 10k (now like 12k really) is a flop? Come on son
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>>145389476
It would probably take some kind of writing miracle to have me seriously buy that though and I don't like the idea that Mirage winning because she has nothing else going for her in her life otherwise because that's just pathetic

I really don't like the comparisons to Misa on that note because one important part of SDF was that Minmay did not see Hikaru in that way
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>>145389476
>>145389550
Nope it's not about triangle, it's about their personality.

>―ハヤテやミラージュに現在どんな印象をおもちですか。

The question didn't talk about triangle.
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>>145389213
It's going to be daughteru.
Mikumo is linked to the protoculture and is the first wind singer
>Windermerians are the heirs
She's the windies mother.
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Kek romance thread for delta on 2ch is becoming active
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>>145389401
You can't fuck a spaceship.
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>>145389717
>yfw she'll fuck keith and heinz because royalty incest harem
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>>145380182
>>145380197
>>145380217
Did Hayate stopped being a relevant character?
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>>145389658
It's about the triangle because it has Mirage saying "I won't lose to you" stuff. Freyja is obviously withdrawing because she has bigger shit to do.
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>>145381150
I know VFs are bullshit fast but did Hayate's dad die here?
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>>145390098
Part of, but not mainly, like you said, Freyja have bigger shit to do, her viewing to Mirage(and Hayate) won't be only about triangle.
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>>145385012
UTA WA GURETO
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>>145388936
>one episode
More like a few minutes

Shows you how Freyjafags believe that their horse won't win
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>>145389759
>implying
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So wait you have one of the main heroines literally dealing with serious stuff, life and death situations while the other only cares about the MC's D?

Mirage's 'problems' are so laughable, I can't take her seriously.
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>>145390340
>Freyja
>serious stuff
>life and death situations
Laughable
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>>145390340
>while the other only cares about the MC's D
That's kinda shitty if she win like that, at least just make her being useful and do something cool.
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>>145390340
Mirage had more stuff going on with her as a character than Freyja until recently.
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>>145390500
She will win and you will be butthurt.
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>>145390340
Mirage's issue is "learn to fly freely", yeah, still not that big deal compare to Freyja, but that's not the problem, the problem is, the writers seems dropped this and still wasting her screen time for triangle, not personal development.
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>>145390518

Like what?

>oh i don't think i'm good enough
>oh i'm so jealous of hayate and freyja
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>>145390518
Like what?

>>145390623
It still doesn't change how I view her. The writers decided to have her only around Hayate and give focus on her feelings about him. Her only problem is that Hayate and Freyja are close and has to put a fight now.

I can't help but compare them now. Her problem is literally high-school level.
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>>145390642
Its more than Freyja had. She wanted to become a member of walkure and she does, is accepted by everyone and is sad about the whole war thing but hides it behind a big smile. Its not really much.
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>>145390837
But Freyja will start admire Mirage in future episodes due to they're having 180 turn.
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>>145390975
Could you tell me about the problem that Mirage has then?
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>>145391102
Just because Freyja will start admiring her, it doesn't mean I will do the same.

I am willing to see this change but it doesn't tell me much about Mirage. She is only there for the triangle and that's her focus. Her problems are jokes to me.
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Somebody tell me why Mirage triggered a few anon here?
I'm Freyjafag anyway, and i don't hate Mirage, especially in episode 19 she protected Freyja, so yeah no way i would hate her.
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>>145391102
Come on guys, they can't keep the "songs are evil drama" going on forever, they have a second album to shill. This is just a path for Mirage to catch up to freyja in the bowl and for Mikumo being used as a weapon by lady M or berer or whoever the big bad is.
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>>145391135
She feels inadequate as a pilot and is experiencing confusing, conflicting emotions. Not much either, but she hardly gets screentime at all, unlike Freyja.
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>>145391435
Don't care about mirage it's miragefags that are beyond delusional at this point. To think just weeks ago they were shitposting about the Ranka beach sign.
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>>145382814
>you can't love a robot.
does it count as a robot if it's fully organic/biological?
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>>145391664
>beyond delusional

You just described Freyjafags
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>>145361487
CHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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It's like two months since I asked this and still nobody's given me a legit reason as to why they think Mirage should win the bowl on her own merits
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I already miss Mikumo.
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>>145392259
Because there is no reason. The writers are "developing" her as someone who should win the bowl because she can't do anything without him. Which is the total opposite of winning on her own merits.
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>>145392259
She would need screentime for that first
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>>145392259
No one cares about your question because the writers dictate the show.
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>UTA WA GENKI

more like UTA WA HEIKI, amirite?
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>>145381100
> Minori is commenting that Freyja loves Hayate, Mirage, and songs but she is thinking that to Freyja there is something more important to her now than romance with Hayate.

This reinforces one of my theories: Freyja is the one who will call the end of the triangle and not Hayate.
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>>145392376
Next episode is supposed to be Mikumo heavy, hopefully we will have the pleasure to admire her splendor.
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>>145392259
As of now, she didn't do something to win him over... She did try though, but she failed.
If she wins by failing at everything, then I may riot. However, if she wins by finally doing something good, I may not hate it
I am a Miragefag but I think Hayate x Freyja is just too strong (which I don't hate, this pairing gives me diabetes). Mirage needs a miracle of good writing to make her win in an incredible, believable way.
I mean. Look at her and tell me she isn't the sexiest space elf out there, and you want to see her happy.
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>>145392975
>I am a Miragefag
>but I think Hayate x Freyja is just too strong

Another """Miragefag"""
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>>145392801
They even have a backup excuse for Freyja's chokejob.
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>>145392975
According to Freyja VA's interview, Mirage will change, not saying she will win the triangle, but at least she will change, and i hope it's true.
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>>145393093
>treating interviews as king
(lol
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>>145392975

This
I agree 100%
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>>145393093
>but at least she will change, and i hope it's true.
That gives me hope.
I just want her smile. To win something. To have more screentime and do cool shit like Messer or Hayate or Freya.
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>>145392975
It does not matter if she has to win by her own merits now. The writers literally dictates the show as they can do whatever they want with Mirage by pulling out an asspull win.
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>>145393195
>asspull win

A win is a win

Your horse choked
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>>145393041
>been a Miragefag means that I only care about Mirage x Hayate

go shitpost somewhere else
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>>145393041
Oh look he posted it again
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>>145393212

>A win is a win
yeah, no
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>>145393286
Yes it is

Take some butthurt cream
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>>145393212
>A win is a win
>Your horse choked

I will be so glad to see my space-elf win the triangle without any legitimate reasons. Then i will stand at the corner seeing Frejyafags getting butthurt
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>>145393093
>>145393178
Mirage will dive into the fireworks
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>>145393338
>without any legitimate reasons

Yes because the show is totally over

Now watch Freyjafags make excuses upon excuses after shitposting about Mirage for weeks

My dam is empty and it will overflow with Freyjafag tears
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>>145392975
I started this show as a miragefag. Hell she's the reason I watched this to begin with, she's meltran and even better a fucking Jenius. She looked tough and I was hoping to see her lighten up and show her cuter side, but so far she's been sad and pathetic.
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>>145392259
Who is besides Hayate when she needs someone the most? Mirage. Who gives him peep talks and supports him and tries to cheer him up and talks to him in hard moments? Again, Mirage.

I think a lot of you are being blinded by the flashiness of HayaFrey's fold waves.
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>>145393567
that should have been a "when he needs someone the most"
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>>145393453

This. It's really disgusting to see people saying how they don't give a shit and just want her to win for "freyjafag tears." At this point Mirage is just a weak character. If she won in this state I wouldn't be happy, it would feel like an asspull.
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>>145393453
>so far she's been sad and pathetic.
Yeah. My main issue with the show is how unfair it is to Mirage.
I share 100% with you, anon.
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>>145380182
Someone translate this please! >>145380197
And this too! I don't want shinpi associated with the filthy night
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>>145393737

It's talking about how they're going to get married.
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>>145393567
>Who is besides Hayate when she needs someone the most? Mirage.
>Who gives him peep talks and supports him and tries to cheer him up and talks to him in hard moments? Again, Mirage.

Literally SDF all over again where Misa and Hikaru both comfort each other and licking each others wounds.

History repeats itself retrospectively.
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>>145393567
Replace Mirage with Freyja because Mirage has only had two or three serious conversations with Hayate and none them have advanced their relationship. Freyja always gives Hayate pep talk and he does the same to her. They support each other.
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>>145393737
You Mikumowaifufags are as pathetic as the Boguefags who hate Reina because muh pure boy is being tainted. Off yourselves. And take the triangleshitters and /v/irgins with you.
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>>145393931
Keith is trash.
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>>145393916
but Hayate isn't a loser like Hikaru.
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>>145392801
What the fuck was the voice actors thinking? That literally spoils the whole ending and tells you Freyja is going to lose and choose singing over Hayate. I'm dropped this show.
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>>145393916
Misa was actually relevant to the plot and spoke her mind She even created the fucking Daedalus attack. What has Mirage done exactly? Go MIA in battle? Stand around and say nothing except gasp when meetings related to the plot take place.
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>hogs the entire show
>doesnt get the guy

>maybe four lines per episode sometimes
>still gets the guy

Its amazing how far T&A will take you. Freyja was doomed the moment she had neither.
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>>145393567
>Who is besides Hayate when she needs someone the most? Mirage. Who gives him peep talks and supports him and tries to cheer him up and talks to him in hard moments? Again, Mirage.

Gee I wonder who this reminds me of.
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>>145393969
I'll be rooting for a Mikumo/Keith end then, your butthurt will be delicious when the Rune boy defiles your waifu with his windy dick.
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>>145394042
Don't buy any of the hype they tell you. They aren't allowed to spoil the show, or give such a accurate prediction. Has anything anyone of them said come across as 100% true. Just vaugue responses to stur drama between fans, which is exactly what's happening right now
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>>145393930
But again their relationship fumbles when things get tough. Their communication isn't as perfect as some here like to think. The whole issue about Hayate's father and their awkwardness over it got resolved thanks to their meeting with Cassim, because neither of them tried to reach out to each other before that. And in this ep you have Freyja once again hesitating about seeing Hayate or not.
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>>145393567
Thats because Mirage is more suitable to cheering him up during those specific serious moments such as the first kill, messer, and the dad causing the nuke. Of course a pilot would be better to talk to about the first kill and their own squad comrade and not a fucking idol. As for the nuke, why the hell would Hayate be cheered up by Freyja when he's scared of talking to her in the beginning since his dad nuked her planet? What else was more of the serious talks?
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>>145394108
Okay, it's on then and you're free to rub it in my face if it happens. I don't mind Mikumo being paired off with someone. Just not Keith. What's going to happen towards the end of the series is Mikumo and Freyja. Love, singing and mech won't meet. Mikumo breaks that triangle. Mikumo and Freyja are going to die
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When will we see the conclusion of the triangle?
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>>145394511

cute
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>>145394372
>Mikumo and Freyja are going to die
That's when your theory goes to shit. They won't die. Although, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of them leaving on a journey across the universe together like the Alto and the Vajra Queen.
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>>145381476
Freyja above Rem! Nips actually have good taste.
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>>145385012
>it's a Josuke auditions for Walkure with Savage Garden episode
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>>145394205
Dude no one's communication skills are perfect but Mirage's communications are practically non existent. You claim Freyja can't talk about serious issues but she frequently mentions her short life span, a very serious and depressing topic I her life. Also why does Cassim being involved count as negative? Did you forget how Hikaru had Claudia talk to him or how Alto had Klan talk to him?
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>>145394215
Mirage never spoke with Hayate either about the nuke either.
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