KyoAni's financial report

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>dat shitty ROI
Will they be okay?

What? Only $265k profit?

5 people make more money in a year.

>>144184279
they're obviously funded by Soros to dissuade Japs from reproducing

At least they haven't turned to growing tomatoes
RIP

Well, clearly, this is proof that they're failing miserably and should go back to adapting Kadokawa series and Key VNs. I'm sure that way they will make even more money.

>>144184395
They're one of the few private studios that actually turn profit.

>>144184273
It was an off year for them with the move. They made even less than they usually do.

Violet Evergarden will save KyoAni and anime.

At MINIMUM 30k sales. Screencap this post.

Will they make another fujoshit show then? Free! was their most successful of their own shit

>>144184477
It'll do worse than Phantom World.

>>144184477
Only Free season 3 can save KyoAni.

>>144184201
That's yearly profit? There has to be some money laundering in this somehow
>>144184514
I doubt that's actually possible

>>144184557
PW didn't do that bad, as far as flops go it was on the higher end of the flop spectrum.

>>144184395
I agree they should have made Rewrite instead of 8bit

>>144184201
i don't understand how other studios that don't even come close to even stay afloat. how do studios make do with no fucking sales

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>High Speed's BD is projected to sell only 10k copies
>can't make more fujoseller because Utsumi is gone
>Koe no Katachi isn't getting enough promotion
>the trailer only has 300k views

Is it finally over?

>>144184624
Gonzo turned a profit and was bought by a company this year. Anime is a mysterious business.

Well, they do only 1-2 shows and some movie per year anyway.

>>144184594
>it's shit but in the better side of shit

Literally what you said

>>144184648
Left boy is delicious, no homo.

>>144184624
Do you want the honest non-troll answer or just the usual shitpost cycle bantz?

>>144184492
>>144184518
No it will be K-ON

>>144184683
they end up being the same thing

>actually turning a profit
that's pretty impressive desu

>>144184648
>they let Utsumi go
I didn't like Free but shit was pretty successful, I wonder why she left

>>144184624
Most studios work on debt

>>144184674
You said that it was not possible that Violet could do worse than PW, implying that PW did the worst, which is not true since the worst it can be is not have Oricon even track the sales. Do you even follow your own conversations, retard?

>>144184703
So just funposting. Got it.

The answer is yakuza dwarves.

>>144184648
High speed is projected to sell 25k.

http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/index2.cgi?smd=title&tn=%83n%83C%81%99%83X%83s%81%5B%83h%21

>>144184777
>implying that was me
Nice trips though

>>144184764
Wanted to be freelancer.

>>144184764
Sexism.
Yamada will be the only female director around.

Fujita will leave soon.

>>144184273
If their revenue goes up every year but their profit stays around the same or goes down doesn't that just mean they're spending more on stuff

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>no school+slice of life shows
>no relevant amount of profit
>next series KyoAni is doing is a shoujo+love triangle with a robot
They're finished.

Curse Kyoto Animation for making anime that women enjoy and which gives them plenty of money.

Now I shall forever hate them and call them KyoAnus.

That will show them for sure.

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>made profit
>hurr durr Kyoani is dying

>>144184846
>implying it matters whether that was you

>>144184998
What are you even trying to say?

>>144184201
>150 employees this year
>last year they had 149

Who did they add?

>>144185021
Exactly. It's over. Studio Sanzigen won.

>>144185076
Me.

>>144185076
A janitor for the new building.

>>144184960
>next series KyoAni is doing is a shoujo+love triangle with a robot
They don't have a series like that.

>>144184624
Because studios don't have to rely on disc sales. There are other ways to get revenue.

>>144185076
Manwhore

>>144184624
disc sales isn't the only thing that brings money

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>>144185098
Based KyoAnon
How many new Kumikos can we expect from season 2?

>>144185172
I'll make sure Yamada storyboards a few ultra rare for you.

>>144185021
Well yes
Breaking even isnt enough and if you have gigantic revenue then its even worse.

Companies need profits to expand.

>>144185172
Just as many as there are now, but with light pink uniforms instead of brown.
And then there will be a new special edition where all of them wear sombreros all the time, so that you'll have trice as many Kumikos than you have now.

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>>144184514
>It'll do worse than Phantom World.
So wrong

>>144185116
Oh yeah they built a new studio last year right that's probably why the profits are lower

>>144185321
But it will. Each episode of Violet Evergarden will cost 100 billion yen to produce (the minimum required to make perfectio), so the discs will be so expensive, nobody can actually afford them, making VEG sell worse than Phantom World.

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>>144185407
>mfw poorfags can't afford VEG

I'll be buying the deluxe limited edition BD with event ticket

Meanwhile at Toei

Employees at Year-end - Around 600
38,134,000,000 Yen - Retained Earnings
56,404,000,000 Yen - Total Assets
11,036,000,000 Yen - Total Liabilities
*3,079,997,000 Yen - Cash Flow (Note: Total Money that indeed entered, or left, the company at the end of the year)


33,612,000,000 Yen - Net Sales
20,809,000,000 Yen - Cost of Sales
---
13,803,000,000 Yen - Licensing
14,005,000,000 Yen - Film Sales
*4,654,000,000 Yen - Sale of Goods
*1,320,000,000 Yen - Others

12,803,000,000 Yen - Gross Profit (= Sales - Cost of Sales)
*5,167,000,000 Yen - Selling, General and Administrative Expenses (SGA Expenses)
*7,635,000,000 Yen - Operating Income (= Gross Profit - SGA)
*7,995,000,000 Yen - Ordinary Income (= Operating Income + Non-operating Income - Non-operating Expenses)
---
*5,145,000,000 Yen - Net Income (= Ordinary Income + Extraordinary Gains - Extraordinary Losses - Income Taxes - Inhabitant Taxes - Enterprise Taxes + Income Taxes Adjustment)

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So fiscal year is from April 2015 to March 2016

KyoAni only made two shows and a movie in that time. Hibike (8.3k), Phantom World (2.3k) and High Speed (680 million yen).

This is Bones' April 2014 - March 2015

Revenue: 1,222,000,000 yen
Profit: -63,978,000 yen

They did Captain Earth (1.4k), Soul Eater Not (200), Chaika (1.6k), Space Dandy 2 (800), and Chaika 2 (1k)

I'm sure with more info someone can come up with an average number of BD sales needed in a fiscal year relative to the revenue.

>>144184477
I unironically believe this

>>144185510
That still only means 1 disc sold, you silly rich mooncastle-owner

>>144184273
Any company that makes >0 profit is doing ok.

>>144185512
>comparing toei to kyoani
That's overblown and you know it. Toei doesn't even animate shit

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>>144185510
Someone was dumb enough to hire me so I'll be able to throw money at VEG.

>>144185512
>Comparing McDonalds to a local restaurant.

>>144185535
>Profit: -63,978,000 yen
W-Will they be okay?

>>144185535
>bd sales
I'm pretty sure that isn't that relevant. Gundam most probably could keep afloat only with gunpla sales.

>>144185692
>Each pixel in VEG is actually a multi-length novel written on a typewriter
How does GodAni do that?

>>144185782
You're pretty sure that isn't that relevant on multi-million dollar franchises like Gundam, or DBZ, but small studios make profits through BD sales for the most part.

>>144185744
>losing 600K USD in a company

Eh, they'll be fine

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>>144184624
Pay animators and the likes later, like years later.

>>144185982
Teekyuu is proof that those animators are overpayed hacks who complain too much and still get too many benefits.

Animators should be forced to pay for the privilege to work on anime.

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>>144185823
KinoAni will always find a way

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>>144185982
>they do it for free

>>144186093
They should now be called Kin-IroAni.

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Comparing KyoAni to other studios that have a franchise to fall back on doesn't really work since KyoAni doesn't have a godtier franchise to fall back to.

KyoAni doesn't have a Gundam UC/idolmaster so it's more worrying when they are bleeding cash than if Sunrise had some anime fail.

>>144186093
>Kino-Ani
Why hasn't this caught on yet?

>>144186125
This is what Tezuka-sama wanted, and going against the wishes of the god of manga is blasphemous.

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>>144186231
It's catching on as we speak

>>144186231
>>144186293
Fuck off to >>>/v/

>>144186356
I thought that was >>>/tv/

>>144186384
/a/ is so out of touch they still think /v/ makes memes.

KyoAni should do anime about idols.

Or Hyouka S2, I just hope they change the fact that Chitanda has a boyfriend and he is not Oreki.

>>144184661
>Gonzo is bought out because they're profitable
Makes sense to me.

>>144186485
>KyoAni should do anime about idols.
No.
>Chitanda has a boyfriend and he is not Oreki
Stop this meme

Oh no, with the low profits they'll play even safer and produce uninspired garbage, which people will eat up of course.

>>144186543
>>KyoAni should do anime about idols.
>No.
Yes, they should do it. They should do male idol anime.

>>144186594
Stop this at once

>>144185259
The reason they didn't make as much profit is because they ARE expanding. They are building a new studio, which costs money, alongside making their shows and movies, and they still manage to make profit. If they weren't spending on expanding, they'd have more profit. It doesn't matter how much they profit as long as they make some profit, because that means they can afford to pay their employees, which is the whole point of economy. The money they spend on each show isn't money lost, it's money that goes to paying the people who actually work there, and if they get enough revenue to make some profit, that means they can keep giving money to their employees.

>>144186629
That is already a thing anyway. It's best that KyoAni does that.

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>>144186441
>/a/ is so out of touch
And who exactly are you, you crossposting shitter?

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Meanwhile at shaft
>Revenue: 1.335 billion yen
>Profit: 22 million yen

I guess it's true when people say all the pornogatari money goes to aniplex

>>144186727
What kind of new studio are they building?

>>144186949
Better question, who the fuck are you?

>>144186949
One of the fine educated scholar and gentlemen from >>>/qa/

>>144186965
Fuck, even at KyoAni's worst they still turn more profit than SHAFT?

>>144186970
An animation studio.

>>144187055
It should be obvious that they make more than slaves.

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>>144186231
>>144186293
Violet Evergarden will popularize that nickname.

>>144184201
>Profit: 53 million yen
So, $500,000? Is that before or after the pay their employees?

>>144186485
>Hyouka S2
i don't want to dream anon.

>>144187129
Is there a grid for Ishidate?

>>144184201
It's just because Phantom World was a flop, as it should have been, it's the single biggest stain on their record.
Koe no Katachi and Violet Evergarden will skyrocket them up again.

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>>144187190
Profit is what they have after all the operating costs like paying your employees and buying pencils and stuff

>>144187190
You have to be 18 to post here.

>>144187233
Phantom World will always be better than some dumb melodrama about a deaf girl.

>>144184279
>$265k

$503K while still making a big investment.

>>144185744
>$10 million revenue
>negative profit

Bones did some major investments obviously, plus captain earth was a flop which is why they made a small loss.

>>144187233
PW wasn't that bad, there were far worse shows during that season. No one would even shit on it if it was made by another studio.

>>144187224
>ishidate won't have hanada shitting things up for him again
Thank god

>>144187233
Even then they made over double what Shaft did and Shaft was churning out more Bakemono like their lives depended on it.

>>144187299
I have a biology degree and a linguistics degree. I never took any business classes.

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>>144187306

>>144187129
Weird how they only did that Nichijou style thing for the first episode

>>144187394

You don't need to attend to a goddamn course to understand basic concepts like income, expenses and profit.

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>>144186970
Film division for Yamada

>>144187438
You mean that silly face Yuta makes?

>>144187233
>BDs and figurines sold out
>flop

Nice meme.

>>144187521
Yes, and the way he bounces around the room

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>>144185535

>>144187483
Only idiots would think that.

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>>144187486
Will Yamada transcend after Koe no Katachi?

>>144187572
That scene was hilarious and it did really drop after the first episode.

>>144187587
Source for that? I don't believe their profit was that high in 2011.

>>144187055
They spent half of what kyoani spent for half of the profit. Doesn't seem that bad for shaft.

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>>144187587
>you will never experience 2010 KyoAni again

>>144187678
See archive >>119012720

>>144187587
>ever sine KinoAni went independent their profits are higher than amount of disks sold

Why don't more studios go independent?

>>144187734
Does not exist anymore.

>>144187633
I hope so. I also hope she becomes a film director so we can get a new series director.

>>144187737
Because Studios like SHAFT, Ufotable, Trigger and Bones prefer staying in their comfort zone of Aniplex lapdogs.

>>144187737
Easier said than done.

>>144187778
>Yamada becomes film director
>Ishihara retires
Who do you choose as two new series director?

>>144187970
>lol
>>144187970
>:(

>>144187970
Kill yourself

>>144187737
Because if you flop a couple times you are done, see manglobe for reference.

>>144187737
You need to get enough money to buy or create your own material to adapt or make successful enough originals that you can use the last to fund the next.

>>144187970
She's not just a senpai, she's a fampai when she became MC's temporary mother.

KyoAni is a terrible studio, the sooner they go under the better

Violet Evergarden is going to just be more of the same style over substance garbage that we've seen from them for the past 6 years

which studio does make the biggest amount of profit btw

>>144187233
You really haven't heard about Munto have you

>>144188124
Here's your reply

>>144188124
I too detest KyoAni for ever having made fujo-anime, which is why I will now forever paint anything KyoAni does in a negative light, even if the subject at question is actually good for them.

>>144188205
Toei probably

They are like the Walmart of anime

>you will live to see KyoAni be kill

God is good

>>144188443
But what if God is GodAni?

>>144188443
Shaft, Bones, Trigger and Badhouse will fall first though.

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>>144187939
Kawanami and Fajita

>>144188443
>making profit every year, even while paying additional costs for expanding
>be kill

>>144188443
>edgemasters want best studio to fail but it won't happen

>>144189247
>best studio

>>144187394
>>144187608

No, you're the fucking retard who doesn't even know absolutely basic accounting concepts. This shit should be mandatory in high/secondary school, no wonder this generation is so fucked.

>>144187233
Phantom world had a very good premise and the world they presented was pretty awesome, the problem was that they decided to do a slice of life anime with that, still it was very entertaining for me.

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>You will die in KyoAni's lifetime.

>>144189412
>you will never visit kyoani shop

>>144189362
The premise of "a school club where students fight a new monster every episode" isn't good at all. The added premise of "phantom magic allows for imaginary things to be real" is what made it a very fun show because they didn't have to stick to a single setting and they even got to play around with the characters every episode and turn them into princesses in bear wonderlands, bunny girls that speak Kansai-ben, cat-girls, single mothers with economic struggles, they could turn Haruhiko into a shota or into a CQC fighter like Mai, they could change Lulu into a full sized girl, they could turn everyone into historical characters in a fictional fantasy feudal Japan, etc, etc. It's a really fun show to watch because it allows for so much creativity every episode.

Still, the episodes worked very well together to set up the story for the last two episodes, which present a new villain that manages to make a big emotional impact.

It might not be what people expected from KyoAni, but it's still a very underappreciated show.

>>144186485
>KyoAni should do anime about idols.
They are too small. Notice that three biggest idol series (Im@s, LL, UtaPri) are owned by huge companies like Lantis, Bamco, Aniplex

>>144184557
>There has to be some money laundering in this somehow

you're not wrong. they have to keep their yearly profits low in order to keep qualifying for government grants

>>144189760
I found it flashy but not really interesting, and not enough was done with the characters. For example, Haruhiko namedropping Saussure made me cringe really hard, and that's not even mentioning Schroedinger's cat.

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>>144189760
I agree with you but these things I wish they made into their own anime.
>princesses in bear wonderlands
>single mothers with economic struggles

>>144189308

Even if it were mandatory most people would forget it in 5 years because most people won't ever use that knowledge. It's not a generational thing, it's a practical thing.

>>144189895
Schrodinger's Cat didn't need to be mentioned but I still appreciate that they actually got it right about it being a thought experiment and not really a cat that's alive and dead at the same time. It still fits the theme of the show.

>>144189895
Name-dropping stuff is not really that big of a problem. The problem is that the characters just had boring personalities and didn't have good chemisty.

>>144190017
How many single mom anime are there?
>Witchblade
>Wolf Children
>??

>>144190072
It felt like Haruhiko lacked an actual personality so the writing team just tried to paint him as this smart guy who's well-read. They dropped the ball hard so he just wound up as a walking infodump. I don't have anything against "smart" characters, and it's not like Kyoani's never made something with one before - it took me a while to warm up to Oreki, and that was because he was an indolent asswad. But he was quite bright and was clearly great at deductive reasoning, like muh Holmes.

>>144190072
>The problem is that the characters just had boring personalities and didn't have good chemisty.
This.

>>144185370

I'd be interested to know if revenue from non-Japanese streaming services like Netflix and Crunchy are included under "Internet" or under "Overseas".

>>144186970
Tokyo Animation for new FMP.

Aren't they mostly women? No wonder they're so bad.

>>144190684
Go tell that to your mom.

>>144186970
Probably for the merchandise department and KA Esuma.

>>144190684
>Aren't they mostly women?
Yes, this seems to have something to do with their God status.

>>144187939
Ogawa and Ai Yukimura if she ever come back.

The problem with Kyoani is that they don't take risks anymore. I feel like Nichijou scared them straight, and the only risky/exciting thing they've done since then is Free!, which was a success even though I didn't like it.
They've been playing it way too safe the past few years, and as a result, they continue to make boring, generic, uninspired shows. High budgets and flashy animation can't make a boring series good every time. It's a shame, really.

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>>144190684
>a bunch of women make more money than Shaft and Bones combined

$hinbo and the rest of them should just kill themselves

>>144190363
"Detectives" have to be assholes or at the very least smug cunts. They don't work nearly as well otherwise.
Even the classics like Holmes and Poirot were dicks half of the time.

>>144190773
>and the only risky/exciting thing they've done since then is Free!
Free was made 2.5 years ago, and they're doing Violet Evergarden which is very unique from what they've made so far, you're acting like it's been decades since they made something different.

>They've been playing it way too safe the past few years
By going solo and funding their own shows?

>High budgets
https://twitter.com/erkin_kawabata/status/589384655796731904
KyoAni shows have below average budget.

>>144190773
Hibike is the most exciting show they've ever made

>>144190773
>Tamako
>Eupho
>not ambitious works

>>144190773
>becoming independent wasn't risky
>buying material wasn't risky
>rejecting K-On S3 for Tamako wasn't risky
>making a movie out of Tamako wasn't risky
>Violet Evergarden

Kyoani's business model is kinda fishy to me. I mean if this methods works, another studio would follow this path like there is no tomorrow.

>>144190773
Nichijou wasn't Kyoani's own show. It was sponsored by Kadokawa. It was also shit.
They have been making their own original shows only since Chuuni.

>>144185686
Why not? You compare Kyoani with other studios all the time.
Based Godei.

>>144185535
HA dumb bones cucks are going to lose their company, thats what you get for shitposting your fujo bait trash all the time

>>144190773
They've been taking a lot of financial risks.

>>144190967
Trigger is trying to do the same with their own original IPs but they still need funding from Aniplex. Small companies don't do this because they get hit harder if one of their shows flop. They'd rather stay safe with publishers.

>>144191057
Reminder that Hiroko Utsumi is now at Bones.
Expect whater she's making there to be a big fuck you to KyoAni.

>she saved KyoAni
>and now she's trying to save Bones

>>144186727
Anon, you must not know how financials work.

Typically, money spent on buying new assets and shit would not be included in profit. You're thinking of the company's cash flows, which would show you how much money they are getting from operations and from other sources.

>>144191190
Isn't she a freelancer?

Also, BONES is where creativity goes to die

>>144190967
see >>144191108
What KyoAni did was very risky and they were very lucky that it worked out for them. Other studios probably don't follow suit because they're afraid that they won't be as lucky and they don't want to break connections with bigger producers like KyoAni basically did with Key and Kadokawa.

>>144191190
She's not, she's freelancing and she also worked on the recent Yu-Gi-Oh movie.

>>144191236
Space Dandy is more creative than everything KyoAni has ever done combined

>>144191236
>Isn't she a freelancer?
Yes, like everyone working at Bones aside from Yutapon.

>>144185512
Toei is doesn't even focus on anime anymore.
They now mostly only focus on tokusatsu & its marchendise. Hell, classic shits with its crappy production quality (DBS, SM, Digimon) that they've thrown to audience sells anyway,
Also, Toei is the owner of Tokyo tower.

>>144191326
It also flopped harder than everything KyoAni has ever made.

>>144190907
And that was garbage too

>>144191333
>Bones has 64 employees
>but they've had negative profit for years

Do they work for free?

>>144191411
>Hibikek
>garbage

>>144191450
They just can't manage money and work around freelancers like everyone in the industry except KinoAni of course.

>>144191519
It was good up until the rumor about Taki started getting spread.

Then it just turned into melodrama wankfest "look at how good we are at animating guys" that had nothing to do with music.

>>144190967
So many things went right for KyoAni in the past 2 decades.

From having good staff inhouse, making high-quality subcontracted work that land them on projects with popular a source material, financial success that gave them enough cash to become more independent.

It would be very difficult for other studio to replicate.

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>>144191333
>Yutapon in Utsumi's new anime

>>144191560
What made anti-kyoani fags so autismal?

>>144191680
Got paid by Yamakan

>>144191579
KyoAni also had a very distinct and consistent style that allowed them to make themselves a fanbase that would stay loyal even when they took big risks. Other studios that go back and forth between styles and even staff wouldn't have that kind of support because their shows are so different from each other that everyone expects them to be hit or miss.

>>144191680
Nice reply KyoAnus licker.

>>144191560
The show isn't about music specifically, it's about a high school band. That kind of drama is all over in high school bands.

>>144191799
Except the drama was pointless and everybody ended up looking like a bigger idiot over the drama.

Kousaka ended up getting the solo anyway, Kaori showed no interest in the solo at the end, so everybody's time was wasted.

>>144191680
Probably rape victims.

>>144191841
The drama wasn't pointless. It developed a bunch of characters and was very interesting and cathartic in its own right

>>144191841
That's not true, Kaori wanted the solo badly but conceded it when Reina played in front of her and showed she was better

Giant studio like Toei, Pierrot, OLM, & Sunrise doesn't even relies on BD that much.

>Toei = Tokusatsu, Toys, Long Run anime (rating)
>Sunrise = Supported by Bandai & its Gundam, Toys, Midnight anime (BD/DVD)
>Pierrot = Long run anime (rating), Midnight anime (BD/DVD)
>OLM = Making kid shows, mostly rating
>> POWER GAP
>IG Port (P.I.G, WIT, XEBEC, Signal MD)= Publishing, Game, Midnight anime (BD/DVD)
>> POWER GAP
>Kyoani, Shaft, Etc.

I think IG port is the only giant studio who still relying on BD/DVD sells. But they're now trying to pander the new market, the western one.

>>144191841
No, it ensured the student's trust in Sensei, forced Reina to widen her perspective on what band means to people, and allowed Kaori to come to terms with not getting the solo. Plenty of other stuff happened during the arc as well.

>>144192080
>No, it ensured the student's trust in Sensei, forced Reina to widen her perspective on what band means to people, and allowed Kaori to come to terms with not getting the solo.
Except we didn't see any of this development because that all happened in the last episode.

Season 2 might redeem the garbage ending of the first series but I doubt it, I just expect more pointless KyoAnus drama.

>>144184279
It's profit. Actual profit. Means all their expenses paid like salary to their staff, rent, ultilities, etc. I would also think its after taxes. Maybe not, still if pre-tax, they make $150K profit is still profit. As a counterpoint to 5 people make more money in a year. Yes, I make 45K a year and after expenses, I have like $500 pocket money a month. That's like $6000 a year. I wish I had $50K of profit a year. I could buy a new Benz with that.

>>144192095
>that all happened in the last episode
What? The last episode is just the performance's lead up and aftermath. All of the stuff I mentioned is resolved well before the final episode.

>>144192276
He probably feels like being retarded.

>>144191222
>Typically, money spent on buying new assets and shit would not be included in profit.

That's what he wrote

>The reason they didn't make as much profit is because they ARE expanding. They are building a new studio, which costs money

>>144191798
Who would we reply seriously to an already stupid post?

>>144190485
KEK.
Keep dreaming anon, keep dreaming.
The reason why Kyoani is in Kyoto because it is a lot more cheaper there.

Make Hibike real yuri, it will sell like pancakes.

>>144193537
>yuri
>selling
kek

>>144193569
>Madoka
>Symphogear
>Love Live

>>144188212
Well, he's a blind KyoAnus lover, so it's a given that he's a newfag.

>>144191993
Actually, Sunrise CEO confirmed they were in really big trouble due to the recent Gundam flops.

Gundam Unicorn allowed them to just barely break even after their recent Gundam anime flops that also had Gunpla no one wanted to buy.

Don't act like Sunrise is invincible.

Multiple Gundam flops in a row can kill them.

The CEO, himself, said it was fortunate that Gundam Unicorn allowed them to weather the damage.

>>144187737
They need those fat contracts that KyoAni got in the latter half of the 00s. KyoAni was at some point in time the biggest Kyoto media company. They were that big before going independent.

>>144193727
Love Live isn't yuri

>>144193727
Those are all yuri bait series not actual yuri

>>144194029
I can agree that Madoka or LL could be considered yuribait but Symphogear is full yuri.

>>144190457
overseas right?
Does crunchy work in japan/overseas? I know netflix is dns based, but I have no idea about crunchy.

I will destroy KyoAni

>IG Port is a $50 million microcap company
>KyoAni would probably be worth about $20 million
>an entire anime series costs $2 million to produce

It never fails to amaze me how completely insignificant the anime industry is in financial terms.

>>144193738
manchild

>>144184355
Would you buy a kyoani tomato?

>>144194662
>high quality ingredients
I'll buy in bulk, please

>>144184764
They let her go? God dammit.

>>144185076
A cat.

>>144193738

>>>/v/

>>144187737
It's difficult. Sunrise could handle it, manglobe couldn't.

>>144184395
Still salty they weren't the ones who adapted Planetarian.

Anyway, do we have any sort of data for other companies? I find it a bit weird that only Kyoani publishes these kinds of reports.

>>144191130
>mfw we will get not just one but two well staffed independent studios in our lifetime
Feels good man.

>>144191680
Studiofaggotry in general is cancerous.

>>144185116
Considering the sheer amount of expenditure normally associated with obtaining a new fucking shiny building the fact that Kyoani still turns a profit is pretty admirable.

>>144184201
Since when kyoani becomes public company?

>>144186485
>Hyouka S2
>Coming out in our lifetimes
You gotta whip that author to write the novels, anon. Why are the good works that Kyoani hold the adaptation rights to always got plagued by writer's block on the author's side?

>>144184734
This.

>>144195251
Wasn't he gonna write another novel?

>>144195217
It's private, but they put their financials out there for private investors I'd guess.

>>144195217
They've always been a kabushiki kaisha.
Doesn't mean it's publicly traded in the stock market though.

>>144195307
>>144195251
The new novel should come out at the end of the year, around the same time as the release date of the live action movie.

>>144186231
Because it's cancer and people who say that should fuck off back to /tv/.

>>144189760
It was almost like they polled their animators about what they want do draw and make the episodes based on that.

Also does anyone know what drug was Kyoani on when they made that cat episode? I want them to take more of it.

>>144190072
Also bad execution on some parts. I'm still mad about how they adapted Koito's powers.

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>>144195479
Maybe your favorite studio can't produce kino and you're just jealous.

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>>144195507
Still my favorite episode.

>>144191130
>Trigger is trying to do the same
I honestly wish them the best of luck. More studios need to go down the path Kyoani took. Didn't P.A. expression admiration for Kyoani's practices especially in regards to being independent?

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>change to your own way of making shows
>still make profit every single year and are among the top studios when it comes to profit
>NO IT'S OVER! KYOANUS IS FAILING AND IT'S ABOUT TO DIE.

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>>144195621
>trigger finally does something that isn't imaishit jacking himself off
>it flops

>>144193973
anon they run kyoto

>>144195817
Should've hired an actual scriptwriter and not a meme.

>>144195217
ESL please go.

>>144189517
Literally what makes me cry occasionally

It hurts so much

>>144195479
SHAFTfag detected.

>>144191993
>But they're now trying to pander the new market, the western one.
They better, IG has been in the red for two years. They need to step up although I doubt they'll die anytime soon. They do need to expand.

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Is any other studio even trying?

>>144195817
The OP is amazing though

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>>144189517
>>144195935
>he hasn't made his pilgrimage to the holy land

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>>144196020
Yes.

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>>144189848
Also the smallest TV anime studio ever somehow made a profitable idol show so keep that in mind.

>>144196208
And that was?

>>144195582
Fuck off cancerous crossboarder.

>>144196114
Funny story: I've been to Kyoto and regular people on the street tend to not even know what KyoAni is, let alone know where their studio is (which is why I wasn't able to go to their store).

>>144195593
This episode was fantastic and deep as fuck, actually. I bet only 1% of the people could actually get all references and symbolisms.

>>144196354
KyoAni is not actually in Kyoto.

>>144196354
The store and studio itself aren't in the heart of Kyoto to begin with anyway, they're in Kohata.

>>144195817
>trigger finally does something that isn't imaishit jacking himself off
>trigger does some other garbage instead
That's why all the studios will never step out of the comfort zone like Kyoani does.

>>144196114
I dream about this everyday but I lack everything.

>>144191388

They primarily do commercials for Bandai toylines. Dear besto grando sponsorsu de okurishimasu

>>144196462
Only God knows how much I love amaburi and the fairies.

Guys, please stop trying to look over corporate balance sheets and act like you understand them.

Profit is not necessarily good and you do not necessarily want your company to be too profitable. An ideal company would have minimal profits-- this is because all revenue gained can be immediately spent on something that will bring more profit-- and when that profit arrives, it can also immediately be spent on something that brings in more profit, ad infinitum.

Beyond that, revenue that falls into this year may not even reflect recent performance or future performance. It could reflect all kinds of licensing revenue, etc-- profits can be moved all over the place. A sale that happens now could not show up until 1 or 2 years from now (longer if desired).

Because there are all kinds of financial agreements generating revenue, because there are all kinds of investments that can be treated as expenses, for so many other reasons, please do not think you have any idea what the state of KyoAni is from your information.

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>>144196544

>>144196413
Still, point about it not being that well-known in Kyoto stands.

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Is this what a /biz/ thread feels like?

>>144184697
You mean Haruhi

>>144184279
Anime itself usually doesn't make money period.

>>144186965

And so the never ending low tier battle between /a/s obsession studios turns another page

>23 million dollars

>500k profit.

Trigger and Kyoani are my favorite studios. Bones used to be third but they've done nothing but put out shit over the past 5 years. The only thing I actually liked was Kekkai Sensen and true to Bones's curse, they shit the bed when it came to the ending. Why did they do that to White?

>>144196665

Nah /biz/ is all about riding the cryptocurrency rollercoaster and flushing your toilet with rainwater to save money.

>>144196638
They're an anime studio, what were you expecting?

>>144187299
The people here are pretty goddamn dumb so I doubt that

>>144184279
>Working for more than minimum wage
Send help please

>>144190967

I will forever love this ignorant notion that Kyoani somehow pioneered original anime productions. It's just so typically crazy /a/ notion and almost everyone here holds to it as God given truth

>>144196690
>>144196825
>people are still replying that entry level post

>>144196748
Kekkai Sensen was doomed the moment they decided to shove in the anime original plot. I hope Mob saves them this year.

>>144195440
Wait what? A Hyouka movie? I had no idea.

>>144196241
WAKE UP

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>>144186594
This should be the perfect thing.

>>144196904
But anon, it's true; I'm poor.

>>144195817
I'm sad, so much to learn about the characters and we will never get a s2.

>>144196921
>reading comprehension
Live action

>>144196876
>ESL

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>>144196825
>>144196942
What are you willing to do?

>>144196966
classic /a/ reading comprehension though

>>144197068
What the fuck

>>144197138
My words exactly.

>>144197068
I'd do anything for money
But I won't do that

>>144196972
>this triggers the ameriburger

>>144193945
He said Unicorn offsets the disappointment of age like 5 fucking years ago indeed. The president of Bandai also said this week at the Gundam conference that the franchise was up in every demographic except for the 20 and 30 age groups and that for the first time ever had a sizeable fanbase under 10 as well as young female Gunpla fans thanks to Build Fighters. Age and the Level 5 team up might not have produced the result they wanted but Build Fighters has. Level 5 made it up to them with Yokai Watch anyway. It's really the only Gundam project that has not met the expected result.

Sunrise looks more than fine as usual. Even Zegapain BD Box looks like it might do well. The new Barbatos kit appears to be getting solid preorders and Gundam has held close to its projection of 80 billion yen in revenue for the first half of the fiscal year 2016.

>>144194575

It's positively tiny compared to the Japanese music, game, live action, publishing...really any media industry. When Walkure from Macross Delta sells the equivalent of 45K BD discs with its first album it really puts it into perspective. That's far more than anything else from that season sold on a per volume basis.

>>144196966
That's what I meant. Is there a trailer anywhere?

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Meanwhile Gonzo made $14.4 million in revenue and $4 million in profit this year and is being bought for 60$ million.

>>144197068
Jesus that can't be good for him. Poor dude, I hope he got out of there.

>>144189308
Mmmm...no. Thinking that you "already know" everything there is about any topic, even though you haven't studied it at all, is the mark of an idiot.

>>144197299
What?

>>144197068
Living the life

>>144196114
I would totally go there just to put up a Keit-Ai poster on the door.

>>144184201

I guess this might reflect the land they bought recently.

>>144197493
Nice meme, cancer.

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>Studio makes a profit
now show me the Bones financial report

>>144186231

I don't get this. Why the fuck is /tv/ starting meme?

>>144197800
they are actually getting good these past 2 years

fucking fujo

>>144186965
wait, how does Kyoani make double the revenue of Shaft though?

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>>144184201
>Profit: 53 million yen
Making anime is a mystery.

>>144196190
Did anyone even get the OVA for that one?

>ITT: retards who have no idea what revenue and profit mean

>>144197867
Shaft is Aniplex's bitch so most sales made of their shows goes to them.

Kyoani mostly make shows of their own IPs so most of the money goes to themselves.

>>144196941
Isn't someone else already doing this anime later this year?

What they really should do is a SideM anime.

>>144198059
So Disc Sales go straight to Aniplex first and Shaft gets the leftovers?

Whats the point of selling 50k BD worth of Bakemonogatari if Kyoani can sell 3k of Phantom World and make twice the money?

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>>144189517
>>144196354
> first time to Japan
> able to get to the studio and the shop without being able to read moon
> fucking google map, how do they work

the studio is right next to the Kohata Station, and the shop is few blocks away behind it. perfect place to drop by if you're coming back from Nara/Southern Kyoto to the city.

i bought nothing from the shop.

Daily reminder

>Meanwhile, anime is slowly becoming the lingua franca of animation worldwide. The best animators in China and Korea are strongly influenced by the Japanese style, and prominent young talent in the West like Ulysse Malassagne and LeSean Thomas are trying to bridge the gap. Talk to any professor at CalArts or Gobelins and they’ll tell you the influence of anime on the younger generation is unavoidable. And in terms of raw technique, television shows like Dennou Coil, Cowboy Bebop, Hyouka, and Space Dandy have no parallel in the States. This is not an argument that the US should abandon their unique tradition in favor of foreign influence. Rather, the Japanese took the challenges of modern production seriously and we should pay attention to what they can teach us.

>>144198134
>So Disc Sales go straight to Aniplex first and Shaft gets the leftovers?
Almost. The money goes to Aniplex, then Kodansha, and then Shaft gets peanuts.

>>144198168
>Hyouka

I don't really fucking know why they won't license this shit. It's received quite the following. It sold well generally.

>>144198134
Because if one their shows flop they won't go bankrupt the next day since they have Aniplex's backing.

Being someone's bitch is the main reason Shaft, Bones, Madhouse etc haven't already closed down.

>>144198270
Kyoani has always been a bitch as far as licensing

>>144198150
How'd you manage to take photos in the shop? I thought the staff didn't allow that.

>>144198150
>this pic
Why are you doing this to me? ;-:

>i bought nothing from the shop.
that's really sad

>>144198134
If they want to make an original series they have to fund it themselves and take the risk.
Shaft gets a safe and guaranteed source of profit with the monogatari series and when they've saved up enough they can do their own original series.

>>144197875
Doesn't Kyoani pay their staff well?

>>144198384
Isn't Hyouka Kadokawa's?

>>144198270
Jewdokawa.

>>144198270
>>144198384

>Meanwhile Pony Canyon is starting to be more aggressive in the west

>>144198501
Relatively speaking.

>>144198134
It's not their product to begin with and I guarantee you that they are happy with those leftovers, otherwise they would be forced to step up as studio and do their own shit as studio.

And eventually flop because they are shit at it.

>>144198501
Their animators are Episode Directors.

>>144198168
>anime is becoming the lingua franca of animation worldwide
Maybe in Asia but not even close in the West.

>>144196354
How do you know? Were you randomly asking strangers if they like KyoAni or something?

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>Kyoani financial report released
>meager profits
>turns out they are still actually really successful in terms of other studios
why is anime such a bad industry for making money?

>>144198508
yes i believe so

>>144198702
Passion industries have always been less financially viable than others

>>144198702
You can thank our old friend Tezuka for that.

>>144198659
They are quite popular here.

>>144198659

Well if you're going to compare it to 3D then yes. 3D has an absolute hold the west. Though as you can see France has a huge following for 2D animation. Mitsuo Iso is collaborating with a studio there.