ITT: Tsundere done right.

>>144179667
Pic not related, right?

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>>144179667
i'll start

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When will you guys start?

>>144179667
The only thing "right" about Chitoge is her design which is god-tier.

>>144179823
yeah, waste of design

>>144179917
I like houki but even I know thats wrong.

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Here are my current tsundere rankings.

>>144180010
/v/-tier taste.

>>144180010
>christina not on the list
This list is shit

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>>144180010

>>144180350
What was her name again?

Only good tsunderes are the non abusive ones, chitoge is basically todays Akane, yet people love her

>>144180405
She has the cutest Tsundere-ism.

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>>144180419

Electric spiderwoman.

>>144180581
Here we go.

Is it possible that this gets ignored and doesn't devolve into shitflinging for 100 posts?

>>144180669
I was going to respond to it, but I'll ignore it this time for you.

>>144179667
Pic related

>>144179931
Almost done right, I wish she was a little less abusive. She's almost always the one picking up a fight with Ko.

>>144181400

They're both Tsundere

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>>144180010
extremely shit taste

>>144180439
Only good one of this whole thread.

Come on guys, where is Senjougahara?

>>144180439

Someone who´s actually right.

>>144181927
true

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Animeonlyfags need not apply.

>>144179667
the tsun part disappeared a long time ago

>>144182504
Best tsun tsun
Now proceed to post OTP

>>144182495
She really isn't a good tsundere, her behavior is completely unjustified and plain retarded at times. Dropped the manga a few weeks ago, it had become utter shit after Azami was introduced.

>>144182541
That's a good thing

This thread has like 3 good ones at most
Where's Kyon?
Also AZUKI AZUSA

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>>144180010
Good taste m8, don't listen to these faggots.

>>144180405
Elder god patrician taste.
Why only Six Volume and why the author isn't return yet to another shit like this?

Does Fakir count?

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In fact, she's barely tsundere, which is why it's so great.

>>144183256
Second best tsun after Syaoran

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>>144182800

Tsundere done right is basically a character who has actual development and becomes Dere. Which very few of them do. Most just start of Tsun and remain a bitch the whole time. Or go from Tsun to a different kind of anger/denial.

>>144183256

Yes. Pretty much the best example of a character actually developing into dere.

>>144179667
>abusive tsundere
>done right

go buy a rope and hang yourself

>>144182597
>he dont know

Man I'm so glad bitch wasn't the promise girl.

>>144183890
Not like it matters, Raku said he doesn't care who the promise girl is.

>>144180581

I don't recognize anyone from the "Good Tsundere"s listed outside of Kurisu. Who are they, and what are they from?

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>>144179667

>>144180581
>Julius
>bad

>>144179667
>>144179787
>>144179917
>>144180010
>>144182495
Absolutely bottom feeder tier

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>>144180010
I want to hurt you.

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>>144182461
>senjougahara
>tsundere

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>>144184105

Help identifying these characters would be appreciated.

>>144185025
He grew out of it after like two seasons.

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>>144179667

>>144179667
https://youtu.be/RqOn7wa4jRU

The only good tsundere is a male tsundere

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>>144185928
Not sure if calling other guy idiot, or posting Kyon being a tsundere...

>>144186385
The latter.

>>144185048
Bottom left two are from To Love Ru and The World God Only Knows, don't know the rest

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>>144179667
Pix unrelated right?

Now HERE is pic related.

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>>144179667
OP is a faggot. Here's a good tsundere.

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>>144179667
Obligatory.

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>>144186707
Yes.

>>144182461
Crab only calls herself a tsundere as a loving joke between her and Araragi. She starts off as more of a kuudere and ends up going full dere.

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waifu

>>144185048
Top right is Eri from School Rumble (who is a good tsundere to be fair)

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>>144186707
>>144186821
>>144186940

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Tsundere done right

>>144180581
>Rin
>Bad
Aside from that decent list anon-kun

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>>144186722
Yes.

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>>144179667
Chitoge > Paula > Haru for tsundere ranking
>Kosaki loses
>Chitoge wins
Today is a great day for best girl

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>>144186979
Seconding.

>>144187221
I like chitoge but Tsugumi is best tsundere

>>144185048
Top: Kurisu (Steins;Gate)/Hinagiku (Hayate)/Eri (School Rumble)
Middle in the bot is Haqua (TWGOK).

>>144179667
Chitoge is a miracle of the universe.

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>>144187477
Tsugumi is nice, but I don't think Tsugumi is a true tsundere. Chitoge's tsuntsun and deredere is cuter in my book, anyhow.

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>>144179667

>>144180581
>Yukina
>bad

I'll fight you senpai.

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>>144179667
Best of the best.

>>144185048
Kurisu from Steins:Gate
Hinagiku from Hayate no Butler
Eri from School Rumble
Yui from To Love Ru
Haqua from The World God Only Knows
Stella from Rakudai Kishi

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The original is still the best.

>>144188266
That's kuudere anon.

>>144180581
Rin and Biribiri should me moved top. Aside from that, list is pretty solid.

>>144180581
>Every single girl in the bottom tier are actually cute or good tsundere
There's no way your taste can be this bad and troll-fu to imply otherwise.

>>144179667
>Tsundere done right
Such a thing doesn't exist

>>144180010
10/10

Extremely bitchy tsunderes are top tier

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Facts about Rin

-Never overtly hurts Shirou
-Only wants what's best for him
-Frustrations and tsun stems from Shirou's desire to rush into danger
-Despite being in a competition against each other, never once betrays or backstabs him
-Was the one to actually /initiate/ the romance between her an Shirou

>>144180581
holy shit u have terrible, terrible taste anon-kun

kirino, chitogi, lousie probs are top tier, meanwhile the only decent one from your "good tsundere" (fucking kek) is stella

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>>144179667
Tulip should be mandatory post.

>>144188328
I can't see it, seeing how she was a butthole to Kyosuke through most of the series.

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>>144187221
Haru needs some love. She's the only good Onodera in the family.

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>>144180581
Go fuck yourself. Claire is lovable and adorable tsundere with development and sweetness underneath layers of pride and willful attitude.

>>144187090
Sakurako, Misaki-chi, and Himawari are also great tsunderes all by Namori. She's like the lesbian tsundere queen.

>>144189091
You a shit.

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>>144180581
>Biribiri
>Kirino
>Shana
>Louise
>Rin
>Taiga
>Emi
>Minami
>Yukina
>Chitoge
>Haruna
>Sana
>Claire
>Erina
>Julis
>Especially Yukina
>Not good
IIE senpai.

>>144184714
only louise, asuka and taiga they are tsunshit

>>144188617
>Never overtly hurts Shirou
false

>Frustrations and tsun stems from Shirou's desire to rush into danger
not always

>>144188618
are a Fucking Stupid Retarded with autism

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>>144189766
>only louise, asuka and taiga they are best tsun and the shit*

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>>144189776
Rin Hater Fagot or Wormslut Fagot

>>144189766
>>144189815
>ESL-kun is back
Houki, Yui, and Stella a shit.

>>144189815
>>144189899
i should have known ESL-kun would appear in a thread about tsunderes

>>144189776
>false

True. In the original FSN, the worse thing she does to Shirou is throws an eraser at his head if the player picks a wrong option.

In the Realta Nua version, there's also a scene where she throws a pillow at him.

If you are referring to HA, that was literally a dream.

Tsundere is an overdone character archetype honestly.

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>>144179667
>Shitoge the shitty modern tsundere
>Tsundere done right (AKA a classic tsundere)
Pick one.

>>144188074
Ma nigga.

>>144188979
I just see 2 episodes, all girls except maid girl are tsundere?
>>144189091
You are shit, Claire is adorable
louise a crap shitty

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>>144186707
The only good tsundere of this century.

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>>144179667
Also did her theme songs right.

>>144189868
>>144189928
Why always stupid people should bother me

>ESL-kun
>THK
>In a tsundere thread and on at the same time
Shit thread incoming.

>>144190071
yanderefag, yangirefag, kuderefag, danderefag

>>144179787
>violent tsundere
horseshit tier

>>144179732
shes tsun tsun

>>144186874
It's fair of Sohara and Nymph be bad tsundere with tomoki

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>>144190085
This modern and classic thing you force needs to stop. They're both old as dirt and are timeless, existing long before people like you make up these contemporary differences when that is nonsense. Also, fuck you since both types are perfect.

>>144190310
thk?

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>>144190365
Lina is arguably the most violent and destructive tsundere in here, so you should be hating her too.

>>144190189
You are wrong about chitoge like rin haters
>>144190189
>The only good tsundere of this century.
you are shit and you deserve to die

>>144190310
ESL-kun?

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>>144179667
Decade later and Louise is still the best.

>>144190085
You are wrong about chitoge like rin haters

>>144190469
>Knows about ESL-kun, but not about THK
Lair.

>>144190447
Bullshit. There's a reason why you hear the debate of "Good tsundere vs. Bad tsundere." It's because the good tsunderes usually fall under the classic archetype whereas the bad tsundere falls under the modern archetype. And no, classic tsunderes are great while modern tsunderes suck shit.

>>144190531
Was she tsundere?
How? I find her fucking likable.

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>>144190365
>>144190531 is right. You're such a hypocrite.

>>144190531
but she isnt tsundere. She is tsun tsun. Also she is destructive but not towards her love interest. That is the problem. A girl who liikes a guy that she hurts because she doesnt want that out.That is complete wank, why would you ever hurt the one you love. Lina is tsun tsun, there is no dere dere, and even then she isnt violent towards gourry (or whomever you ship her with)

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This guy for Jonathan.

>>144190531
Hotblooded ≠ tsundere.

>>144190647
Debate about good and bad exists in everything. And the debate pertaining tsundere have been existed long before this recent notion of classic and modern. You're also full of crap to say good usually fall under one or the other when such ideas never existed and tons of your so called modern type have been long thought to be good.

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>>144190771
Wrong. DIO only cares about being the pitcher for the priest.

>>144190847
>tons of your so called modern type have been long thought to be good.
Yeah, by people with shit taste.

>>144180581
Good in Good tsundere
Yui, Hinagiku, Kurisu, Eri, Haqua
Wrong in shitty tsundere
Misaka, Shana, Rin, Chitoge, Claire, Pink Houki

Shit tsundere
Slutella, Kill to kirino, Louishit, Taiga (overrated angry bitch) haruna WORST MAHOU SHOUJO, The rest

>>144190717
>>144190587
>>144189868
Same louise fagot?
louise have the WORST FANBASE in tsundere history

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>>144190662
if you have to ask then you never saw the show.

>>144190751
>tsun tsun
Except Lina isn't all tsun. She has dere and repeatedly covers up her true feelings like your typical tsundere, and her method is either nuking or transparent denial with flustering demeanor.

Lian gets along with Gourry, but she also abusive and takes advantage of his idiocy to for her benefit. And of course of the aforementioned above, she have slapstick moments with him if her tsuntsun deredere gets triggered. Not going to even mention her blatant and even more typical tsundere tropes with Naga and vice versa.

>>144190799
You mean anti-heroine. Get it right.

>>144191058
(You) ESL-kun.

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>>144187739
>>144187866
wrong
FUCKING CREATOR

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>>144190447
This is true, but it's not going to change when the misconception have already spread in the western communities. The only real bad ones are the actual neo types, anyways.

>>144191132
Come with me with trump, I'll return the hit

>>144190936
if that's your best argument then you practically conceded. Most tsundere you seem to hate are more popular than the ones you think are only good, you know. So if you want to go down to the my godly taste > your shit taste then have at it.

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>>144191058
>Only two (You)s
Don't be mad because your hypocrisy was called upon.

>>144191340
>But Pink Houki is awful. She ruined Asterisk.
you are only a disgusting claudia fag

>>144187139
I hate tsunderes so freaking much but Rin caught my heart, she's the only one I've ever liked

>>144191340
0/10

Julis was the only decent character in that show.

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>>144190939
>>144191340
Stella is Pink Houki. Get your shitty forced meme right.

>>144191516
>Claudia
Worst Asterisk. She's so irreverent you can remove her and barely anything would change.

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>>144191415
>Don't be mad because your hypocrisy was called upon.
This confirms the fan base of louise it is the worst in universal history

>>144191340
>Almost a year later and Stellafag who got BTFO so many times is still at it
Literally autism.

>>144191516
Whore, Hooker, Slut
>>144191544
How dare you to compare Houki with the crap of Slutella

>>144191602
He didn't say anything wrong, ESL-kun. Your retardation is the only thing that makes you look bad, ergo your faggotry makes Yui fanbase worse than it is.

>>144191707
>He didn't say anything wrong, ESL-kun. Your retardation is the only thing that makes you look bad, ergo your faggotry makes Yui fanbase worse than it is.
Stupid racist ignorant xenophobe over there

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>>144191602
You're not even making sense. So, here is your (You).

>>144191725
>Stella
>Anything like Kurisu
Epic bait, Stellafag.

>>144191725
First - you not see steins gate
Second - claudia is a Bag of semen

>>144191707
i think ESL-kun may have been rusing us this entire time

think about it, you can't plague a place with people who speak fluent english for so long without picking up on at least something, nor do i imagine anyone would have the mental stamina to shill their shit tsundere waifu on a mongolian salt trading board for this long

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>>144191823
louise is certainly the worst pink haired protagonist

>>144191725
>Not caring about plot and character
The only thing you can never saw about Claudia is muh tits and body, and that is enough for you to call her best girl, much like your reason for Stella, and shitpost on everything else with your Houki and Ichika memes. Reminder that you are literally cancer Asterisk threads have.

>>144191321
Well I like Asuka from Evangelion, Rin from Fate/stay night, and Kurisu from Stein's;Gate, and they are far better and far more popular than any other shitty tsundere you can come up with, so your argument is invalid faggot.

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>>144191958
>i think ESL-kun may have been rusing us this entire time

>think about it, you can't plague a place with people who speak fluent english for so long without picking up on at least something, nor do i imagine anyone would have the mental stamina to shill their shit tsundere waifu on a mongolian salt trading board for this long

You can stop of thinking, talking and writing like a jackass?

>>144192078
>I like Asuka
Not possible when you abhor "modern" type, but if you stick with this then the foundation of your argument just crumbled under your feet.

And as popular as Rin and Kurisu are at their peak, they are easily matched by other comparable popular tsundere like Mikoto and Shana at their peak, ones you apparently hate.

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>>144179917
and SEXY

>>144191958
I don't think it's possible to be as autistic as ESL-kun and not be legit. The time, effort, and devotion of following certain threads for the purpose of being heard, shitposting, and wanting acknowledgement through charts made every few weeks is a testament of true persistence driven by some belief.

all tsunderes are cute.
blushing when embarrassed over the truth is cute and they all do it.
that's all that matters

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>>144179667
Beta as fuck should be obligatory.

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>>144192685
The greatest truth mankind can come to realize.

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ayano a cute

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>>144192759
YY have so many cute tsundere. But Flat BRAT tops them all.

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>>144192685
It took 180 something posts, but someone finally gets it right.

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>>144192685
/thread

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>>144192688
Nymph was best girl by a landslide. Super cute and a great tsundere too.

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I don't expect most people in this thread to know about this show, though.

>>144180581
SHANA IS NOT TSUNDERE SDJSDHGFDHLFDGHKDBHGFKJGD,H

>>144192685
You're right, and that's why tsundere with 10% tsun and less (e.g. Rakudai's Stella) are bad since they aren't true tsundere nor do they go through proper development a tsundere should have.

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>>144192685
But why is Kirino so perfect, /a/?

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>>144193277
That's like saying Shana isn't HOT. What's wrong with you?

>>144193425
She's a bitch.

>>144193542
Kuroneko please. We all know that you think she's the "bitchiest".

>>144193444
>Shanajerkingoffafireelemental.gif

>>144193444
>>144193444
>That's like saying Shana isn't HOT.
The fuck? She's like 10.

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>>144193425
Countless reasons why.

>>144180581
>THK
>>144189766
>>144189815
>ESLfag
>>144191340
>Stellafag/Claudiafag

Tsundere discussions are forever cursed and plagued by the most cancerous shitposters /a/ have. Every single time.

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>>144193745
I see your bait and raise you delicious loli butt.

>>144193778
for people like you

>>144193825
>Shana
>loli

Fuck off.

I love cute girls.

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Why people always forget this cutie?

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>>144193986
Your attempt is cute.

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>>144192685
This anon is well cultured and knows what he's talking about.

/thread

>>144194092
Because Tsukiko is better.

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Great recent classic tsundere that won.

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>>144194092
AZUKI AZUSA got posted already, anon.

>>144180419
BIRIBIRI

>>144194194
>is a literal vegetable
>won

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>>144194194
Mine is mine.

>>144194231
>Implying she won't wake up in the epilogue

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Best tsundere ever.

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>>144194453
Yui is The Miracle of The Multiverse

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>>144194453
Dimension of this image 1920 x 1080
PLEASE

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>>144194453
Truly a gift from the heavens.

An angel on earth.

>>144194453
Yami and Nana are better tsundere than her.

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>>144194984
CUTE and SEXY at the same time
who can be so shit to hate her

>>144194453
>>144194591
>>144194813
>>144194984
>>144195095
>ESL-kun samefag

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>>144195029
Nana is love and most adorable.

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>>144195029
>Yami and Nana are better tsundere than her.
Fuck you

>>144195152
>ESL-kun samefag
Is ESL-kun with Good taste
only with
Yui is the miracle of the universe
Dimension of this image 1920 x 1080
PLEASE
CUTE and SEXY at the same time
who can be so shit to hate her
Hater Fagot

>>144195282
>referring to yourself in 2nd person
Your shitty English gives you away every time.

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>>144195176

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>>144180439
Her A.I. counterpart is surprisingly less tsundere-ish, though that results from Okabe's different personalities.

>>144195300
>referring to yourself in 2nd person
>Your shitty English gives you away every time.
What is the difference is the same shit

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>a competition for the title of 'best garbage'

>>144195362
So now you don't deny samefag. Great.

>>144195362
Are you the guy from the Watamote threads?

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>>144195152
>anyone who likes Yui is ESL-kun

Fuck off. My pics are proof I've been here probably longer than you.

>>144195282
>>144195362
You're seriously obnoxious.

>>144195394
And you do not stop being a neandertal

>>144195407
Who likes watamote?
watamote sucks

>>144195095
And she orgasm like a QUEEN.

>>144195415
>Defending ESL-kun just because he's a fellow Yuifag
Kill yourself.

>>144195468
>ESL nonsense

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>>144195516
Where did I defend him you moron? You're the one lumping me together with him.

>>144195459
I can´t compare myself to you because you are very much obnoxious

>>144195495
>Who likes watamote?
Another ESL-kun.

>>144182799
>Also AZUKI AZUSA
This desu.

>>144195558
>lumping me
I doubt it. All the quoted posts have awful English.

>>144195579
i write watamote sucks, why you are so autistic like him
>>144195516
(him)

>>144195613
Not really.

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>>144179667
>Chitoge
>Tsundere done right
>done right
why haven't you killed yourself?

>>144179667
Dandere > Kuudere > Tsundere > Yandere

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Another great tsundere.

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kawaii

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>>144195787
>Implying OP is wrong
Your tears are delicious.

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>>144179718
Male tsundere

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>>144179667

>>144195843
Tsundere > Kuudere > Dandere > Yandere > Deredere

>>144195843
Pretty much. Would only argue tsundere > kuudere though. Dandere objectively best

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>>144195558
At least I am The Best fan of Yui

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>>144187903
Not even the best tsundere in her own series.

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Maki from Love Live is tsundere done right. All the cute and none of the violence.

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>TFW I'm probably the one anon who remembers Rena and Clara

TLR is embarrassingly bad. I could not believe what I was reading. Stop posting that shit.

>>144196034
What? He is tsundere for Last Order or what?

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>>144196092
Also pic related because I can.

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>>144196140
Yes. And he actually knows how to show proper dere unlike Mikoto.

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>>144196093
At least you read Yui chapters? of one more time

>>144196226
>Accelerator
>dere
Such as?

The problem is that when a character is a "good tsundere" it is because there is more depth to their character than is contained in the word "tsundere".

Christina from Steins; Gate.
Togame from Katanagatari.
Erina from SnS.
Karen from Code Geass.
Victorique from Gosick
Michiru from Grisaia
Beatrice from Umineko
Taiga from Toradora (Light Novel required).

All of these characters have tsundere affection patterns to some degree, but their identity does not end at Tsundere. In contrast we could take something like... Lilith from Trinity Seven, Fear from C3, 99% of battle harem leads-- and that really is their entire identity.

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>>144196226
>Implying

>>144196285
The pic I posted. Read the LN.

>>144196093
Risa is the best girl just so you know.

>>144196332
sorry but risa no is the best girl

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>>144179667

Is Elizabeth Bennet the first Tsundere?

>>144196330
I read it already, but I want to know what you consider dere. If you consider that dere then Mikoto has plenty where she drops the tsun and show her caring side, usually presents itself through the form of saving Touma.

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The only one ever done right.

>>144179667
>shitoge
>done right

For the first 50 fucking chapters she was insufferable and we all called her shitoge because she was a shit

But I guess that was 3 years ago

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>>144196093
Nobody reads it for the stupid and embarrassing plot, anon.

>>144196250
Your taste is terrible as always.

>>144196450
>we
You mean a vocal minority of butthurt Kosakifag. Chitoge was and still is most popular. Stay mad.

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Every tsundere is shit and automatically the worst girl in their show. This has been a fact for a while now.

>>144196450
You already replied, THK.

>>144196464
>Your taste is terrible as always.
Stupid Hypocrite Ignorant

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>>144196450
You know that isn't true. But you are entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong it is.

>>144180010
Gold is patrician taste

Silver and bronze aren't even the best girls of their respective shows

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>>144185864
Correct

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>>144195843
>>144195915
>Kuudere anything but first

>>144196559
If you're going to throw insults, make sure they aren't non sequiturs. Your insults literally does not follow.

>>144196464
>Lala
>S

You what?

>>144196375

The more I think about it, the more I realize that Pride and Prejudice is tropey as fuck:

>Elizabeth Bennet
Class A Tsundere

>Mr. Darcy
Too-cool-for-you wealthy shoujo male love interest

>Mr. Bingley
Oblivious super-popular pretty-boy, who's inexplicably good friends with above too-cool-for-you guy

>Jane Bennet
Class-president-type girl who's super popular but the audience gives 0 shits about

>Charlotte
Meddling judgemental childhood friend that the audience loves to hate. Think Manami.

>Mr. Wickham
Char

>Lydia Bennet
Fanservice slut

>>144196670
Expecting better from ESL-kun is a mistake.

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The only good tsundere are lesbian tsundere

>>144196670
>>144196711
>Your taste is terrible as always.

>If you're going to throw insults, make sure they aren't non sequiturs. Your insults literally does not follow.

Wow, really you have double standards

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Men do everything better.

>>144196790
That's not double standards nor is that how you even use double standards. A contradiction doesn't exist there.

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>>144179667
Chitoge is god tier. Any tsundere with great chemistry that's fun, cute, and lively are all-around top tier quality. Bonus for engaging banters/bicjering/lover's spat abuse or insults.

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>>144196861
Absolute truth.

>>144187139
From what anime is this character?

>>144196402
Mikoto has only been supportive of Touma for reasons Touma shouldn't and wouldn't know and care because Mikoto only follows him around without explaining why she does that. This is why there is zero relationship develpment between them.
Accel outright states his innermost feelings for LO and his desire to be always with her, to which LO accepts, acknowledging his emotions. Their relationship is full-circle already.

>>144197006
You realize you're comparing Accelerator who reached the end of his development to Mikoto who's still developing, right? Touma have in fact acknowledged Mikoto's support in NT. He knows she cares and wants to share some of the burdens he has to shoulder. What Touma doesn't know yet is her true feelings, which is obviously being saved for last. Point remains Mikoto have shown plenty of dere and that defeats your point.

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>>144196861
>Tsundere with amazing chemistry/bantz in their interactions towards their love interests:
>Chitoge x Raku
>Pig x Hideki
>Tomoyo x Andou
>Emi x Maou
Who else?

>>144197219
Yozora x Sena

>>144197194
>needing over 40 volumes plus side stories to develop a tsundere properly

Mediocre. This is why Accel is better.

>>144197336
That's a weak argument and you know it, especially considering Index's pacing and the fact Mikoto only have significant focus in about half the volumes so far as a main heroine, unlike Accelerator who's the second protagonist. Moreoever, execution is what's important and not how long it takes.

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>>144197219
Pic quite related.

>>144197278
Agreed. Those two have serious tension, in a good should hatesex already way.

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>>144197477
And the execution is lacking. The author is holding out a romantic resolution for so long only for it to be concluded with a predictable status quo since Touma's side of the relationship will never be developed to suit whatever Mikoto wants.

Heck, Maria did the whole chase after love interest much better in infinitely less time and with a great resolution.

>>144197641
There is no dere in Aika.

>>144197815
Lacking it is not. What you're complaining about now is pacing and how it isn't to your liking. Status quo is predictable for virtually every girl Touma comes across, Mikoto is no exception so that's a moot point. But being one of the two main heroines allows Mikoto to be a long work in progress, an advantage most heroines don't have.

Maria isn't one of Touma's heroine nor is she a heroine in a major capacity. Her role, backstory, characterization, and development has to be fitted within constraints, and being short doesn't necessarily mean better. From objective standpoints, Mikoto have a lot over her since she's a lot more fleshed out and have a much wider range of development and emotional growth.

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>>144197641

>>144198060
Not true. Aika's dere is Vegeta's style of dere, that's all.

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>>144197219
Rin x Archer.

>>144198144
It's not even pacing. The whole development is awkwardly done. First, Mikoto is way too obsessed over Touma, way more than the other girls. Other girls have strong feelings for Touma but they don't practically drop their lives to chase after him like Mikoto does. They have their own duties and lives and only interact with Touma if the situation forces them to. Mikoto is pretty much a stalker at this point. Second, Mikoto doesn't even understand the shit she gets into, she doesn't even try. And of course, nothing happens to her and she gets away unscathed from world-scale conflicts while other characters who are actually involved with the conflict have to suffer physical and mental pain and human losses. She's safe from anything that wouldn't involve Touma in the long run. It wasn't until the last novel that she may be able to do something different, but it will always come back to Touma anyways.

Maria is just an example of a girl with similar plot threads, but executed better, whether Mikoto has other sides to her is irrelevant. If you want a Touma heroine, just look at Othinus whom Mikoto doesn't hold any kind of advantage over.

>>144179787
go shoot yourself in the dick you masochist.

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>>144197219
Suzuka x Bakatora. Animefags might not see it, but LNfags should since Suzuka and Bakatora's cheekiness and teasing at one another is what makes them so cute together. The anime failed big time for omitting pt3 and 4 of volume 4's chapter 2 scenes.

>>144179823
Are you serious? Her design is the most generic "american transfer student" you'll ever find.

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>>144198556
>2016
>Being a sadist instead of a masochist for cute lolis

>>144198673
The gays are invading us, anon.

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>>144198673
>Everyone and everything is a S or a M, no exceptions!
That reminds me. Ririchiyo is thread related. Tsunshun is a variant of tsundere, but tsundere nonetheless.

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>>144179667
Minami is cute and best.

>>144188776
they're both shit.

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>>144198603
Too bad best girl wins.

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>>144199017
Sorry, but even Natsumoe is second best to Suzuka-chan.

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Aria.

So i just discovered that Aria the Scarlet Ammo existed and finished watching it. Whilst the anime itself was kinda mediocre and very predictable; Aria is amazing. This girl is so fucking cute and adorable she makes my heart melt.

She's going to give Louise a run for her money in my heart.

>>144196995
"Fate Stay Night" I think.. :3

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>/a/ is too young to remember the ORIGINAL tsundere

>>144195029
Yami is not tsundere.

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>>144179787

>>144199373
She is the cunt that ruined the archetype forever. Most of us prefer to forget about her.

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>>144199204
Never watch the sequel, though.

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>>144199373
She's not the original though. Nevertheless, she is great and a classic.