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Nanoha Vivid S2

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>they didn't believe
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Has there been a press release or anything
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>>144073415
So Vivid Strike and Vivid S2? Or are they calling Vivid Strike the S2?

It's still not 3rd or even a Vivid BD release.
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>>144075022
Vivid strike does not have nanoha in its name.
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Why is a badly made anime that no one liked getting a S2?
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>>144075436
Because it stopped halfway through the first arc. i'm sure they were always planning to finish it.
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>>144073512
I believed in 3rd
It's not happening
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>>144073415
Where is this even from?
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>>144077537
Looks like a poster or sign
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NO STOP

JUST LET NANOHA DIE IN PEACE YOU FUCKS
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>>144078004
Nanoha can't die until they give me the fucking 3rd movie.
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>>144077537
pachinko machine
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>Vivid s2 and Vivid Strike
Goddamn

Never have I expected this.

I hope Vivid s2 covers enough.
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Least we finally get to see the end of the tournament arc. Before the series turns stale with SOL shit.
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http://pachinkopachisro.com/archives/47991387.html

Better quality.
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>>144073415
This seems to be about the pachinko machine, not a new anime season.
http://pachinkopachisro.com/archives/47991387.html
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>>144078288
>Least we finally get to see the end of the tournament arc.
He doesn't know.
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>>144079933
>literally takes one panel to beat Miura
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>>144079857
Yeah but the small box containing Vivid something 2 has "TV" in it?
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>>144079857
Among the information about a Nanoha pachinko machine, there is a box that states a 2nd season TV anime of "Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha ViVid" is planned for broadcast in 2017.

But it seems possible that this is just a mistake and information about ViVid Strike got mis-relayed to the pachinko company or exact plans for the anime changed without them being kept up to date or just not in time to up date their materials.
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>>144078288
It will cover the library arc, then end probably
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>>144080511
Probably revealed it too early, they might make the full announcement at C90.
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>Pachinko

NOT AGAIN
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>>144082308
pachinko with an ad for a tv on it though
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>>144082403
So ViVid S2 and ViVid Strike will air together?

>tfw Seven Arcs shows A-1 how its fucking done
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>>144084442
If 7arcs are doing Vivid s2 then I would assume they'd be in different seasons dyring 2017
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>>144084442
nope, Strike is supposed to air this october IIRC
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>>144084483
No i mean A-1 doing ViVid S2 while Seven Arcs debuts ViVid Strike to bum their party.
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>>144084618
ahh

it's pointless to speculate now
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>>144084663
Will be fun to see the character design/style clash (assuming 7arcs won't port over the Vivid look - which works for Einhart, but I think Vivio could take more glamor).
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This is a very odd announcement. The Vivid anime site is still dead and no staff is saying anything about a S2 on Twitter which is a sharp contrast to everyone jumping all over Vivid Strike within minutes of its announcement just a few days ago. It seems far more likely that this is based on outdated information about Vivid Strike than it being some sort of accidental leak about a proper S2.

Personally, I hope I'm wrong and we end up getting both.
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>>144073415
This is probably why Nana and Yukarin aren't doing the OP and ED for Vivid Strike, because they will handling Vivid S2's.
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>>144086606
Well obviously there was no official announcement yet. If this pachinko reveal is legit, it was made before the intended time.
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>>144092796
>Still no 1:1 Rein2 bunny figure from Freeing
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>>144092796
Hayate must be one of the most challenging masters Signum ever had.
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This is a fucking joke right?

We don't even have blu-rays for the first season.

Well, I rather have more ViviD than Farce.
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>>144093722
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>>144094311
I want more of Shamal because I sometimes forget she even exists compared to the more fighty knights.
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>What are we going to do on bed?
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>>144094870
She's the titty knight.

>>144095250
I always found this pairing kind of strange, aren't they something akin to sisters?
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>>144073415
What the fuck is this and why does it look like pachinko?

>>144079844
>Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha The Pachinko
>Pachinko

And this is how you know Nanoha is officially dead.
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>>144095332
It really seems pachinko is the kiss of death for anime franchises.

>You're Under Arrest!
>Haruhi
>Nanoha
The list goes on.
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>>144095323
>aren't they something akin to sisters?
They're supposed to be the parents of the Yagami family.
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>>144095453
They don't seem all that couple-ish, really. I always thought the looked like sisters. Also Signum isn't that fatherly. More like a cool nee-san.

But i guess its fun to play with the concept for other writers.
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>>144095425
No, it's just foreign fans only start hearing about pachinko once people are desperate for news.
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Fucking hell, just reboot or officially kill it already.
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>>144095323
>aren't they something akin to sisters?
anon, since when is that a problem for /a/ or /u/
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>>144095425
Example of series getting pachinko adoption:
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/タイアップされたパチンコ・パチスロ一覧

>Girls und Panzer
>X-File
>SD Gundam
>Bakemonogatari
>Idolmaster
>AKB48
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>>144095869
Like Pic related for example. They lost a very easy subtle yet strong way to imply something canon about them in FORCE but they didn't.
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>>144095453
Nekotoufu puts them into one bed. But then againNekotoufu/Vivid Life is the 90% of yuri force in Vivid era.
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>>144096064
but not in a gay way
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>>144096064
After all in Vivid Life, Micaiah goes and sword-strips every girl that comes to the dojo. Repeatedly even.

Which is awesome but probably not really canon.
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>>144095453
I can accept this pairing, then.
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>>144095453
>Signum and Shamal shipping

DELET THIS
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Do you see Signum's right hand?
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>>144096165
If that is from Vivid Life it's canon, but not meant to be taken so seriously probably.
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You know, I think I kind of like it.
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>>144096551
Very from Vivid Life. I think it should be taken as a parody, since I really doubt such jokes are supposed to go into canonically happening stuff. The yuri tension in that can be somewhat taken as a tacit hint such stuff being canon, but I still wouldn't rely on it too much.
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>>144096064
OTOH now I realize that it happens when they have Nanoha, Fate, Vivio and Miura over. So maybe one of them lent her usual bed/room to the guests and they don't sleep together regularly.
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>>144096551
ViVid Life is the RWBY Chibi of the Nanoha Franchise. It's a self-satire.
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>>144096613
I'm not against it but i find it too easy, too granted. Signum could be in more interesting relationships.
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>>144096856
Now that at least have more meat than just saying "she gets along with Shamal and has seen each other frequently, they truly belong to each other".
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>>144096926
Idunno, having been through centuries of tough fights and acting like respected adult ladies and sort of like Hayate's nannies is not too shabby background for a secret affair with burning sexual passion. Bonus points is if it is usually Shamal who is top in bed.
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Doing it with hot battle nuns doesn't sound bad either, but for serious relationships finally shacking up with Shamal after centuries of acting like absolutely loyal fighting machines together sounds better.
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>>144097070
>having been through centuries of tough fights
That they can't remember. Otgerwise yeah, everything else could be plausible but none of their attitude in the shows implies that. The closest moment they got ever was the two sitting while Shamal heals Signum's arm and that was pretty much it. I'm trying to remember if they even crossed words during StrikerS.
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>I'm so desperate for Nanoha I'm going back and reading fanfics now

When is my next real fix?
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>>144097214
I think they remember stuff in various manga/soundstages/etc. Might be a case of flexible canon.

If it was a couple then my image is that they would keep it private.
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>>144078135
You already did when strikers split into vivid and force
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>>144097391
>my image
That's the deal with almost every non-NanoFate pairing. Except those that actually came out clear like the Harlown and Lowran marriages.
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>>144097375
>Poor Zafira sent away (because of the clothing damage?)
Or does Takuya just hates to draw guys.
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>>144073415
>make spinoff with characters that will be introduced in second or third season
>oh fuck but we only made one season
>relax we gonna fix it in no time
This is comical.
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>>144097496
This franchose need more guys being cool. Not overpowered. Just cool.
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>>144095760
They rebooted it like five times already
Let it die
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>>144097565
Zafira is cool with every line he says, whatever it is. Even babysitting. What a man furry.
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>>144097637
No kidding he has a really kickass voice. What a waste.
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>>144097565
>This franchise need more guys

Everyone look at this guy as SHAME him.
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>>144097375
>We got all our clothes ripped up, let's take a big group photo so we remember that time we were naked

I don't get magic logic.
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>>144098004
Micaiah strips people for fun and you're complaining about this?
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>>144098058
She's 18, it might be hormones doing stuff.
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>>144098004
I would jump at the chance to take any picture where Fate is mostly naked and embarrassed.
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>>144096640
What has been scanned of Vivid Life so far is based on the main canon universe. Most chapters are inconsequential for world or character building anyways, same with Nanoha A la Carte, they give you an idea of what the characters are doing in their daily life in a more SoL type of setting with no big events going on, something that the big manga don't have time to do, but aside of that there isn't much else going on.
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>>144098412
>they give you an idea of what the characters are doing in their daily life
I think we might have argued about this before (if it was you), but that is the thing I disagree with. Since it is highly comedic and some of the stuff happening is kinda radical, I have to doubt that the overall idea the authors have is to say that they really do all those crazy hijinks. Maybe some, but all?
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>>144098675
It's a comedy with some over the top reactions and situations, these kinds of scenes don't take place often in the other Nanoha manga, so it's to be expected that you will see sides of the characters that you haven't had the chance to see in the rest of the series.
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>>144098412
>Micaiah cuts people's clothes with her sword in open view on purpouse.
Truly this is canon.
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If you ignore all the fun side material then all the best ships sink
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>>144099106
But that one.
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>>144099049
Maybe she just wanted to strip Nove but it would look weird so she did the lolis too to hide her true goal.
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>>144099106
Nanofate is a ship that already sailed AKA is canon and not a ship anymore. Any ships involving the Yagamis are still ships yet.
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>>144099311
Nonsense, all good friends love to dress up in wedding dresses, hug real close together, and then not-kiss on their not-wedding night.
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>>144098004
Lutecia's not in the image.
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>>144099371
I did that once with my _____wife____
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>>144099202
Guess now we know why Nove blushes after getting dressud up in the gym kimono. I'm starting to really like that woman.
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>>144073415
>98 posts
>24 posters
Vivid sure is a great addition to the Nanoha franchise.
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>>144096064
They were drunk, we don't know if that is how they normally sleep

>>144096700
Hayate has a fucking seaside mansion, do you really think they don't have enough rooms?
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>>144099687
To be honest, I don't really like "Tournament arc: the series" but I love Nanoha enough not to give up.
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I can't really see Nanoha using a saber, what do you think?
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>>144099969
>Happen to end in one bed after getting drunk.
>Not according to keikaku.
>What will happen to the Knight of the Lake and teh Flaming General.

That might be even better, my imagination runs wild. Damn, if I was a doujin author, I would have a full bookcase by now.
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>>144100143
She is the younger daughter of a family of super samurai ninjas, of course she can use swords
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>>144073415
>Vivid S2
>Belka flashback and world-building incoming

My body is ready.
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>>144099311
>Nanofate is a ship that already sailed AKA is canon

Barring fanart, pandering official art, omakes and side comics, fucking when and where did they ever explicitly become canon.
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>>144100360
Because even doujin authors generally treat them as a unit so lots of the doujins involve NTR or getting them together.
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>>144100143
Would suit Fate more.
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>>144100419
>doujins

I said barring fanart.
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Hoping Vivid Strike has some kind of plot, but if it's meant to be the filler before Season 2 probably not.
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>>144100659
What I'm saying is that it's so apparent even people who do all the self-insert rape doujins acknowledge it.
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>>144100275
>Belka Flashback
Huckebein the Raven when?
B7R when?
Demons of Razgris when?
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>>144099687
We had a Vivid Strike thread that hit the bump limit a few days ago.
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>>144100692
Not really. They just happen to be close friends and fans ran away with it. No where does it officially say they're anything but.
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>>144100973
Pandering because kids can't get married.
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Loli champion soon.
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>>144100973
Was this art always with the loli versions? I was under the impression they were adult there.
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>>144101429
Yes. The rest of the wedding arts have been adult mode.
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>>144101508
I guess the position, Fate's clothes and no twintails fooled me.
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>>144101588
I assume it's supposed to be the slightly older Fate from the end of 2nd who started wearing her hair tied low.
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>>144101015
>Pandering

Maybe that's why the necklaces here (yellow/red stone) have more romantic impact on me than those wedding dresses art pieces.
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>>144101723
Oh, and only now I noticed how Fate holds Nanoha with her left hand.

Funny how the art tries to not make that too obvious, similar to the Vivid manga.
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>>144100360
They have been married for 6 or 7 years, they even moved together and adopted Vivio, that's old news.
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I seriously can't see a sequel to a show they never sold discs of happening
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>>144100808
>We had a Vivid Strike thread that hit the bump limit a few days ago.
Not for the reason you think
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>>144101723
Sometimes straight girls will trade friendship necklaces or bracelets.

>>144101863
>Fate's wonky right hand

What if Nanoha left RH at home and she doesnt' feel comfortable unless she has a weapon in hand?

>>144102063
>They have been married for 6 or 7 years

Where tho
I'm not talking about the subtext or the fact that they seem to not mind intruding on each other's personal spaces or whatever but where does any official material or any character in official material say that they are a married couple.

Oh when I say "official material", I mean the in-universe canon stuff. Not the side stuff where Tsuzuki hires a NF fan to draw out their fantasies for easy dosh.
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>>144102063
>you will never come home from a hard day of school and punching lolis to be swept up in Nanoha-mama's arms
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The next season could be nothing but 52 episodes of Nanoha and Fate fucking non-stop for half an hour and people would still say that it is not official
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>>144080511
Or maybe Vivid Strike and Vivid S2 are two different things
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>>144073415
>We didn't release the DVDs to Vivid Strike
>We're making a new series called Strike about new characters
>Here, have a pachinko game

Kill me.
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>>144102325
>Where tho
Their marriage? Vivid Chapter 1, Movie 1st commentary track, pretty much every Nanoha party since even before it was an official relationship. It's surprising how a dying series still gets new fans.
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>>144101394
loli seig was 10/10
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>>144102746
>It's surprising how a dying series still gets new fans.
He's just baiting, someone posts the same thing at least every 10th thread.
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>>144101394
My problem with Seig is that she basically has the same "awkward around her friends" personality that Einhart has. Plus she has the same, "haunted by her past memories" backstory Einhart has.

She's basically exactly like Einhart, but stronger, cuter and just a little bit less of of a raging lesbian.
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>>144102823
the crazy poster guy from madoka threads hasn't been here in a while, i think he finally got a bit tired or bored of shitting up other series' threads
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>>144102628
The creators really screwed up by not putting Caro and Erio pics there.
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>>144102746
>still gets new fans

Funny.

>Their marriage? Vivid Chapter 1, Movie 1st commentary track, pretty much every Nanoha party

Yeah, never heard one character say that Nanoha and Fate are any more than close/dearest/longest friends. And we can discount Lyrical Party because that's the VAs giving fanservice.

>>144102823
I just get tired of people passing fanservice and headcanon off as official.
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>>144102870
Yeah, every thread gets less unique ips.
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>>144102942
The last real thread we had had 80 or so, and the Vivid Strike thread had a whole bunch, I think.

More than most older series' threads can say.
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>>144102905
>And we can discount Lyrical Party because that's the VAs giving fanservice.
But you can't discount everything else.
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>>144102628
>Fate agonizing over if she's Precia 2.0 for taking in these little mutant children
>Her entire arc is to agonize over it
>Kids tell her she's wrong but they're leaving her to go to a distant planet anyway
>kkbai OH HEY VIVIO HEEEEY

It would have made more sense for her to agonize over her relationship with Nanoha instead of those two kids can't even be bothered to keep a picture of.
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>>144102905
Well, I agree with you that the way those people act is a bit annoying (which is why you never ever raise the question about the canonicity, since it always leads to shit and insecure people being triggered). Not here, and God forbid on /u/. Stupid but hey, it's 4chan, some things will never go rationally.

But while there is no bulletproof evidence or even overt statement, actually the ways Fate and Nanoha act make it more likely that they are just dykes living together than "very close special friends".

Due to that, I stopped caring about the "canon? Y/N" flames and just consider it a couple that the creators want to keep unconfirmed for some silly japan reasons.
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Do people honestly think Nanoha and Fate aren't in a relationship, and just sleep together in the same bed because? What? Because they're a couple of space Mexicans and they share a mattress because of high rent prices on Midchilda?
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>>144102879
Yes and no, They may be Fate's "family" but they are not part of the Testarossa, Harlaown or Takamachi family like Fate is, so it makes sense that they are not there
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>>144102991
Yes, he can, we have seen how this shitposting goes, every single Nanoha installment can be considered not canon under some bizarre arbitrary circumstances.
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>>144103080
Well there was the floorplan of their house from the Vivid TV airing which listed Fate having a separate room. As of yet in Vivid we haven't gotten to see them sleeping together, or even Nanoha's bedroom.
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>>144103101
Yeah but try to put yourself into Fate's shoes. If I were there, I would defo have pictures. If for nothing else, ffs what if they came and saw that everybody has pic on Fate's table but not them? That's shit thing to do, frankly. Fate isn't like that and moreover, she is fond of them so would have pictures even without that rational reason.
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>>144103061
>Due to that, I stopped caring about the "canon? Y/N" flames
We had a big party when their marriage became canon, everything else is old news and bait material for newfags.

Also /u/ is a shithole and you should be ashamed from frequenting that board.
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>>144103164
To be desu I think both sides of this argument can be quite autistic. But really, let's not give a fuck about that today.
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>>144103165
We have seen them sleeping together in Vivid Life.
Also the floor plan was mad by A-1 staff and doesn't match the final designs used for their anime, and neither of them match the original design of the manga. This was settled in like 30 minutes on both 2ch and 4chan after it was scanned.
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>>144103311
This was a real argument in last decade, now with Vivid and everything else out this is just inefficient use of an obsolete bait.
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>>144102991
WELL, in Vivid, Vivio says this but iirc this was one of those loose translations and another group used "longest/best/closest friend".

Movie 1st commentary, from what I remember it was just Nanoha reminiscing about how she felt when she met Fate. About how she was attracted to her and stuff like that. The context is left up to the viewer but nothing is set in stone. Nanoha never says she fell in love or that she loves Fate (or anybody for that matter).

>>144103061
Yes they're oddly intimate but they could also be good friends who are super comfortable with each other. I've seen it in real life with two dudes. They would wear each other's clothes, sleep in the same bed and even wore matching dogtags. But they were both straight. Honestly it was pretty hot.
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>>144103269
>Also /u/ is a shithole and you should be ashamed from frequenting that board.

Now I take offense. It is actually sorta quiet and peaceful board, with much less shitposting, edge and retardedness than can happen on /a/. And when there is some stupidity going on, it is the same kind that would happen on /a/, like this canon theme for example.

If you don't like yuri obviously stay clear, but that is not reason to call it shithole.
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>>144103080
All things considered you could say that they are dangerous immigrants from an uncivilized country who came to steal their jobs and rape their women
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>>144103356
>Fate in the garage

Fuck A-1.
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>>144103462
>But they were both straight.
Or so they wanted everybody to believe. Hur hur.

Basically, in both cases I think the explanation "secretly homo" is more likely hypothesis that friendship, which is why I go with it for Nanoha-Feito.
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>>144103497
>steal their jobs and rape their women
Haha, good one. Just correction - Fate is not immigrant, she is Midchildan, based on genetics and both her moms.
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>>144103462
>WELL, in Vivid, Vivio says this
Look at the next page, or at the page with the character profiles on volume 1. Fate became Vivio's guardian between the end of StrikerS and Vivid.

>Movie 1st commentary, from what I remember it was just Nanoha reminiscing about how she felt when she met Fate
That's just the usual stuff describing Nanoha's "love at first sight" or whatever, nothing new, but Fate is referred as Vivio's guardian there too.

>>144103462
>Yes they're oddly intimate but they could also be good friends who are super comfortable with each other
Starting with StrikerS that's not possible, they're portrayed as a couple there.
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>>144103497
>Fate was trying to hold hands with Nanoha but missed
>Nanoha as always has no sense of personal space

Ein didn't know what she was getting into. The poor thing.
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>>144103462
T-there is nothing gay about being gay with your bff, r-right?
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>>144103522
It was Nanoha who was sleeping in their cars if I remember correctly.
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>>144103356
I know, I was one who was trying to piece together the differences and went went far enough to draw the manga floorplan based on the little glimpses from the panels. It's just that the inconsistencies that are created help add to confusion.

>>144103522
It wasn't the garage, just the sliding Japanese doors which switched sides between the manga and anime.
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>>144103462
You sound like you have some social issues dude, maybe you need to talk with more people.
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>>144103593
But you know who is an immigrant? The unregistered sex offender
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>>144103796
EARTHLINGS GO HOME
MIDCHILDAN LAND FOR MIDCHILDAN PEOPLE
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>more Vivid
>mooooore
STOP IT
MAKE IT STOP
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>>144103551
One of them got seriously butthurt about people thinking he was gay and he wouldn't talk to anyone for awhile... But he actually has a girlfriend he's considering marrying.

But on topic, If NanoFate was real, I don't see how they could act so obviously gay and not have characters tease them about it like they did with Amy and Chrono. Even when Yuunoha was teased that one time, Yuuno killed it himself by friend or "sibling" zoning himself. Not even because she has somebody else.

>>144103646
No. Not at all. Fear not, Tea.
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>>144103887
They just need to animate the flashback arc and then it will be done.
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>>144103695
>Fate-mama has time off this week, so every day is a lot of fun

That's what she said.
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Why do the devices have to be stupid animals now? What was wrong with the stylized ornaments/jewelry.
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>>144103962
>But on topic, If NanoFate was real, I don't see how they could act so obviously gay and not have characters tease them
First, there is no "if" in canon, and second, Nanoha and Fate got teased all the time during A's, after that they became a couple and I guess the joke wasn't fun anymore, exactly like it happened with Chrono and Amy.
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>>144103962
Why would people tease a married couple and their daughter in the first place?
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>>144104123
Just Vivio and Einhart, and now this new NotNanoha girl.

They have the standard core in them and an separate body surrounding it. I'd wager it's a common practice in Mid though, to make a girl's device a cute animal because we do the same practices here with little girl stuff.
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>>144103620
Vivio's guardian. Not Nanoha's spouse. Never heard of a parent letting someone sign as a guardian in case something happens to the parent?

Perhaps Fate did it because she was afraid Nanoha would go off and kill herself on a mission. She was worrying about Nanoha's condition in the second episode. And it seemed that Nanoha was borderline suicidal before Vivio came along. That could have been Fate's master plan to give the always flying Ace of Aces somewhere to roost. It could have been Fate's guilt that she had more "family" on Mid than Nanoha. It doesn't necessarily make them married.

>they're portrayed as a couple there.
TF?
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>>144104296
In Japan, Fate and Nanoha would have to be married for Fate to also be Vivio's guardian, which is why the Japanese just assumed it happened.
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>>144104125
>Nanoha and Fate got teased all the time during A's

Arisa being jelly that she lost Nanoha to a prettier blond. That's it.

>>144104197
Would you stop
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>>144104222
Rio and Miura have normal devices and Corona's is a fucking wrist knife
Vivio and Einhart are the only ones with stuffed animals
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>>144104351
>in Japan

But they're in outer space.
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>>144104377
Yeah and they don't have parents who love them.
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>>144104458
Mean
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>>144104414
Japanese outer space.
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Is the announcement shown anywhere besides this pachinko machine? It really does just sounds like they mean Vivid Strike.
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>>144104531
Not yet, but this is probably just a leak.

It's telling since says Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha Vivid S2, while Vivid Strike is just Vivid Strike.
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>>144104414
Tell that to Japan and the Japanese fans. Your unpopular opinion literally doesn't matter.
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>>144104526
Where the most popular magic spells are done in either English or German.
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>>144104296
Nanoha was always borderline suicidal, that has nothing to do with her new life
Besides, it was Nanoha who adopted Vivio. Fate didn't plan shit, it was never her decision, it was Nanoha's
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>>144104531
Vivid Strike is set for 2016 fall season while the Vivid S2 leak shows a 2017 date.
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>>144104583
And Japanese fans shipping will never make it canon if the creator refuses to declare it so.
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>>144104652
Oh that's right. I guess we are getting both then. At least Vivid is good for one thing.
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>>144104665
There will never be any sort of declaration until the series actually gets axed and they're not worried about pissing people off. There is still a lot of money involved in Nanoha and the powers controlling it would like to keep the status quo going on as long as they can. Nanoha and Fate will act lovey dovey, grow old together, and generally act like a couple; but it won't ever be said that they are one.
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>>144104665
>And Japanese fans shipping will never make it canon if the creator refuses to declare it so
The creator made it canon through his work a long time ago, and has been reaffirmed through the years as you have been told this thread. No matter how hard you try you will not change story nor probe Japan and Tsuzuki wrong just by complaining in a western image board about a Japanese anime.
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>>144104858
>There will never be any sort of declaration until the series actually gets axed and they're not worried about pissing people off.
Japan and /a/ had a pretty big reaction when NanoFate's wedding got confirmed, I don't recall any negative backslash, fans knew they were a couple before that so it was a good thing to do.
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>>144104596
I thought Midchildan was supposed to sound like English, since the Mid devices speak it.

Just like the Belkan speaks German.
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>>144104858
If anything I'd say declaring NxF canon would bring in twice the money. The fans definitely want it and Tsuzuki knows they want it but for some reason he will not outright declare it. The only reason I can think for this is because they're not actually gay but he knows b/u/x are guaranteed as long as he keeps teasing.

>>144105134
> /a/ had a pretty big reaction when NanoFate's wedding got confirmed,
Could you just
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>>144104858
>but it won't ever be said that they are one.
Except by the times they were shown living their lives as a couple, starting a family and getting married, right?
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>>144105241
>If anything I'd say declaring NxF canon would bring in twice the money.
It brought a good head start to Vivid for sure, if we compare it to the sales of Force at least.

Pretending the author didn't do it won't make Vivid less canon by the way.
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>>144105134
That's just another example of what I'm saying. Everything points to them living a married life, but at no point does a character refer to them as being married.

>>144105241
I'm sure they realize that a lot of people are only sticking around for the potential "will they finally say it" moment so they're trying to keep it going as long as they can. I was hoping it would show up in 3rd but who knows when that will actually come out.

>>144105388
That doesn't mean much since Force tripped on the way out the door and fell off a cliff.
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>>144105241
>not actually gay
They just happen to have a sexual relationship with a person of a gender they're not attracted to just out of friendship, right? And then they just go and accidentally marry that person and adopt a child with them, oops?
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Nana or Yukarin /a?
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>>144105481
>but at no point does a character refer to them as being married.
That logic doesn't dictate what is canon or not, going by that nobody is married in the Nanohaverse.

>I'm sure they realize that a lot of people are only sticking around for the potential "will they finally say it" moment
Maybe 2 or 3 persons in the west, japanese fans are better informed and know it already happened.
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>>144105511
Both.
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>>144105506
>They just happen to have a sexual relationship

Please show me which episode and/or chapter we see Nanoha and Fate have sex. I unironically would love to see this.
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>>144105602
Wtf? Why Nana looks so weird here?
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>>144105601
>nobody is married
Amy and Chrono
Shiro and Momoka
Genya and Quint
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>>144105601
>Maybe 2 or 3 persons in the west, japanese fans are better informed and know it already happened.
I would say it's about 3 people being in constant denial about the wedding thing circlejerking in these threads.

>>144105627
How new can you be?
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>>144105682
Unwaxed eyebrows
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>>144105601
You make it sound like there wouldn't be waves in Japan if they released a chapter about their wedding because it's just old boring news now.

A group deciding to agree on the interpretation of the information given to them doesn't trump actually being presented with it.
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>>144105732
According to your logic. Now according to canon you forgot a few couples, including the gay one.
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>>144105745
How deluded can you be.

I seriously would love to see Nanoha and Fate having sex. I'm thinking I must have missed it on a half page between the official ones or something.
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>>144105777
>You make it sound like there wouldn't be waves in Japan if they released a chapter about their wedding because it's just old boring news now.
We got our waves with Vivid, but a whole chapter about the subject isn't the same as just casually confirming the fact.
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>>144105835
>I seriously would love to see Nanoha and Fate having sex. I'm thinking I must have missed it on a half page between the official ones or something.
Yeah, they were having sex before getting married, do you think that's a sin on Mid Childa? I don't think so.

We both known they don't show any explicit sex or kisses on screen for any of the couples, everything happens behind the curtains and is communicated in other ways.
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>>144106084
Please enlighten me on the ways it was indicated that Nanoha and Fate had sex.
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>>144106133
I won't even bother, someone else do it or just google it.
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>>144106159
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>>144106197
Wait a second I think I found it!
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>>144106295
>[Katuraya (Takemaru)] The Secret First Ticket (Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha) [English] (NanoFate + Tigoris Translates)

Nice try but I'll fap to it
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>>144106159
Official events are not official according to shitposter-kun, so this will have to do.
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>>144106357
Maybe it was this one.
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>>144106454
You shouldn't go further than explaining to him than normal couples have sex, but that must be beyond his comprehension.
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>>144106612
【ADULT TIME】
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>>144106454
Oooh yeah baby, three hours of uninterrupted personal time, yep. It totally has to mean they're doing the nasty. The last thing those 3 hours cannot mean is two workaholics designating downtime or time to study up on work related things or practice time.

Absolutely not. They must be fucking.

>>144106540
>[Ex](C78) [RUBBISH Selecting Squad (Namonashi)] RE 11 (Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha) [English] {Anonygoo}

I'm pretty sure Precia didn't program tentacle mode into Fate even though it was hot as hell.
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>>144106668
Calling for another ADULT TIME.

>>144106669
>Oooh yeah baby
Your tail is showing.
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>>144106612
Fate's passed out drunk there, buddy.

>>144106668
Go on...
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>>144106724
IS THAT FATE'S WARM USED PANTSU
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>>144106731
>Fate's passed out drunk there, buddy.
The reaction of Vivio and Corona is what you should be looking at, they expected them to be in an intimate moment, but this was the one time they were wrong.

>>144106731
>Go on...
No explicit adult time, but I guess it should go like this >>144106540 but with either fewer or more tentacles.
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>>144106724
>Your tail is showing.

It sure is.
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>>144106846
>but with either fewer or more tentacles.
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>>144106612
>>144106668
>>144106724
I still find Vivid Life a dubious source since it is a gag comedy by Nekotofu with characters being wildly different from their Vivid selves.

And now we can discuss just how much involvement Tsuzuki had with the writing in Vivid Life.
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>>144107291
I don't think we care about how much of the franchise you personally want to make not canon, it doesn't matter.
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Stop posting Vivid, you shits.
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>>144107443
It's not about me making it canon, it's about whether or not it is actually canon. As it is, Vivid Life is so far removed from actual Vivid that it might as well just be any other Nekotoufu doujin since the characters act more in line with how they write then how Tsuzuki writes.
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>>144107773
Fate's watermelons
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>>144107896
I like that one in particular because it finally put to rest the age-old question of "Who is bigger?"
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>>144107773
Anything officially published is canon unless stated otherwise, and that goes for all forms of media. For Nanoha is a bit more complicated, because a particular manga, movie or tv series can be a part of a alternate universe and be canon within that continuity, for example Vivid Life is clearly based on the Vivid events and in the events of the "main" continuity, if it had a lot of recurrent contradictions with the world building of the main continuity we would have to call it an different continuity, but that's not the case.
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>>144108006
I don't even know how this was a question. Fate was always more physically advanced than the other two.
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>>144108326
Because all the art over the years has been inconsistent showing one bigger than the other, especially with them being so close in size.
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>>144108451
I've paid so much attention to Fate over the years that it was never any question about her chest size.

She's always been a big girl.
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>>144108777
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>>144102868
She's not haunted by her past as she doesn't have the memories of the past Jeremiahs, just their combat experience. But yeah she have things in common with Einhart except Sieg is not edgy which is kind of an obvious but still fun subversion (black clad super threatening girl with ridiculous power inherited from a line of historically renowed badasses feared by everyone turns out to be a super friendly sweetie that just fights for fun).

Sadly the writers don't know what to do with her and thus she's just kind of tgere wasting her enormous potential as a character.

Would totally watch a Sieglinde prequel/sequel spinoff. So much that can be done with her.
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>>144108040
Micaiah being a depraved predator kind of contradicts canon.
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>>144108451
I blame them for being so similar in bust to the point they can wear each others clothes. While Fate might end up being bigger, it's not a huge difference.
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>>144108945
It's not necessarily an always present trait in Vivid Life, and even if it were you don't necessarily have to see that side of the character in Vivid if it's not required by the plot. Either way the Nanoha series is not perfectly consistent either even within one continuity, the writing has never been too good.
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>>144108451
The art has always been inco.sistent with chest size. Remember when Signum was a pettanko?
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>>144109135
They should just give us all the girls measurements which no doubt exist internally.
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>>144102672
Read >>144075341
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What was the date for Takuya's new book anyways?
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>>144111191
Vivid Garden, October 26, 2016.
Preorders are open up to August?
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>>144112465
Looks like it's not 100% Nanoha like Colors and Girls. Maybe that means the bonus spread will have loli nipples again.
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>>144112465
Who is that behind Corona? Looks like one of Einhart's classmates based on the uniform, but what's her relevance to the story?
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>>144113914
That's the most popular girl in school with her magic finger massages.
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>>144113914
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253 / 38...

At least we still care.
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>>144098412
>What has been scanned of Vivid Life so far
We have all 4 volumes.
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>>144107773
VL has Tsuzuki's name just like every Nanoha manga.
VL was obviously influenced by Nekotoufu but it was approved by Tsuzuki. It's canon.
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>>144115801
>It's canon.
It's own canon you should say. A good bunch of scenarios aren't really plausible within the context of the regular story.

Officially approved self-parodies are a thing.
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>>144116082
That's retarded logic. I can say the same about everything else. Vivid, Force, the A's manga, Strikers manga, sound stages.

What? My sweet Hayate loves boobs and molests her subordinates? Impossible. It's not canon.
What? My cool Fate can't wash her hair by herself? Impossible. It's not canon.

And so on.
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>implying Chibi Rio isn't the strongest thing in the entire Nanohaverse
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>official material comes out
>b-but it doesn't count

I can't believe you people are even having this discussion, and honestly things don't have to get shoved in your face to confirm anything just be fucking logical
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>>144105241
I'll never understand fans' obsession with outright stating things. It doesn't matter what an author thinks and fans who absolutely MUST KNOW are simply crazy.

A joke can be funny without someone pointing at it and saying "YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO LAUGH HERE. LAUGH YOU FAGGOTS!" Some argue subtle jokes might be even funnier.

No, the reason is not that they aren't gay but he wants b/u/x, the reason is that he thinks direct romantic interaction has no place in an action series. Which I tend to agree with. Write doujins if you want that.
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I still ship Chrono with Fate. And Yuuno with Nanoha.
>It's not canon!
Who cares.
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>>144119733
Chrono with Fate is a very awkward one let's be honest
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>>144119942
PLEASE FUCK OFF AND STOP TELLING PEOPLE WHAT TO DO FUCKING GO TO TUMBLR IF YOU DON'T LIKE TO SEE OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINION
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>>144105162
Actually somewhere it was written it is more like japanese which is how Nanoha understood Fate and she could go into school there (basically just a convenient plot simplification). It was just kanji Fate had problems with.

The devices speaking english to sound cool - yeah, well, inconsistency I guess.
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>>144105814
There is Grifith (Letti's son) - Lucino and Lindy - Clyde (if we count dead people).
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>>144119942
>like the series for what it is
Right, like all the people who ignore the actual series to impose their delusional "canon" upon it?

Or those that shit all over everything after A's because "muh lolis"?

Every work of fiction imaginable makes people wonder what if, but somehow, Nanoha fans just aren't mature enough to handle it.
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>>144120290
No anon you are the cancer, you made me dislike you more than NanoFate deniers because of how annoying you manage to be, people will think different from you deal with it or leave
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>>144120290
And somehow your delusions pass the fact check?
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>>144108986
But they didn't exchange the tops, they swapped the bottoms. Dyke custom.
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>>144120531
>everyone hates you

The irony
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>>144113914
Yumina Enclave, listed for Vivid Strike.
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Can't people just ignore the antiyuri fags?
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>>144120077
I read somewhere that the devices act like a voice translation tool for the users and that's why Nanoha was able to understand and talk with Yuuno and Fate without knowing nothing about Midchilda language.
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>>144116082
This. Comedy/parody is going to have different way of being relevant for canon. But you won't explain that to people who want to insist otherwise, same with the ridicoulous canon debate.

And I told you so that it will just go in circles. Like the 100 times before. 4chan just can't deal with such headstrong entrenched debates.

On the other hand, if you people don't mind it or have other stuff to do, I guess why no. I'll just ship them without the silliness.
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>>144120290
When the entirety of your argument boils down to "nuh-uh", are you really in any position to claim fact? You're spewing out your opinion much the same as anyone else, hiding behind the ridiculous veil of people that have deluded themselves into thinking the Nanoha franchise is something it will never be.

Playing devil's advocate on the assumption that any pairings are indeed """""canon""""", what does it matter if somebody disagrees? How does it affect you, personally, in any way? Do you resort to ad hominem attacks and call somebody cancer if they, say, misspell a character's name? They'd be wrong, after all.

The Nanoha series is bigger than any of us, nobody's gonna hurt its feelings if you're not there to throw a shitfit in its defense.
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>>144120734
>degrade the characters important relationships
They're fictional characters.
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>>144120686
All people who care too much about irrelevant author's intent are autistic as fuck.
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>>144117184
>What? My sweet Hayate loves boobs and molests her subordinates? Impossible. It's not canon.
>What? My cool Fate can't wash her hair by herself? Impossible. It's not canon.

Those are not from dedicated comedy side-material. The Hayate thing was a bit surprising to me, but hey, if she does it mostly on friends, it is not that bad. Apparently she tries to keep it not in the harrassment territory.

As for Fate, that is not even anything weird, she was a little girl and her hair was literally asslong. Well, even more. Not really anything outrageous, even if it was probably still put into the sound-stage for titillation only.
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>>144120711
They did mention devices being used for translation until Nanoha and Fate learned the language in the commentary for the movie.
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>>144120786
So you disregard the work completely because it's comedy?
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>>144120786
>I'll just ship them without the silliness.
I just wish more people would take this approach.

You can recognize less likely pairings as a crack ship or whatever the kids call it without shitting on other people for DARING to have a view that does not align with your own.

Nanoha and Fate aren't going to thank anybody for defending their honor.
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>>144120898
No, not really completely. But I think it can have exageration. So while in my opinion you can draw from it the conclusion that NanoFate yuri is really secretly sanctioned by the authors, the actual incidents happenning might not be canon and are just thrown in as comedy.

Similarly, that stripping scene might be a hint that Micaiah likes Nove or is lesbian, but the actual stuff in that chapter shouldn't probably be taken as real. Probably.

So in the end, IMHO you can't take the manga completely seriously. It has authority to do absurd shit and then just run away and say "dude it was just a joke".
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>>144120898
Comedy should not be taken too seriously. That’s not the same as disregarding a work.
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Keep calm and post NanoFate.
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>>144120875
Yes, and there's nothing wrong with Vivid Life too. It's canon.
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Is it wrong if I prefer these two over NanoFate?
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>>144121006
>defending their honor

You should have said "defending their honor" because what the anticrack autist does is beyond retarded. He literally started his usual storm just because this innocent post. >>144119733

Literally, he explodes into rage from hearing people have fantasies and daring to admit it. Normally I try to just ignore him and report, but really, what that dude does is such shit that it has to be said.
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>>144121243
No. Those two are just too good, especially in Innocents.
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>>144121243
I also like them, it was actually kinda sad when Nanoha took her seat as MC back
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>>144121281
I think her MC days are over.
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>>144121109
Going by the main manga Micha has had her hands all over Rio. I don't think she's shown much towards Novr.
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>>144121330
So is Subaru and Teana's
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>>144121355
She just protected her, the "has hots for" is just based on untranslated stuff and might be misjudged. We shall see, I would say.

But it is true that the nature of VL means that the author will probably make yuri jokes everywhere he (or is it she?) can, even where there is not an actual intended relationship. Could be this case, I don't recall if there is Rio-Micaiah teasing in VL too.
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>>144121109
I don't think they would joke about the main character sexual preference which seems to be accepted by the majority of the fanbase, I think this is the one thing they can't say ''it was a joke''
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>>144121196
You probably don't have the emotional maturity to accept this fact, but I'm not >>144120376 (Sorry, other anon.) That's why I took seventeen minutes to reply instead of, you know, three. That anon wouldn't have any reason to reply to the same post twice, would they?

It's amazing that you can decry others for having no argument when every paragraph of yours manages to find some way to call the other speaker stupid. Do opposing views really hurt you that much?

The fandom will be fine. The franchise will be fine. Take a deep breath. No one on /a/ of all places is going to have an impact on the way that the story unfolds. If people want to have fun with imagined scenarios, it effects literally nothing. And it's going to keep happening no matter how many tantrums you want to throw.
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>>144121277
>the actual damage you are causing.
So what does this actually mean? I'm very curious.
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>>144121764
It means the media you’re consuming is problematic and harmful to society. It's wall to wall glorification of a grotesque lifestyle and it is deeply troubling to see people cheering for it. Crack should not be considered normal.
We need to seriously address connections between crack, toxic ideas of relationships and unwholesome relationships.
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>>144122103
>problematic
>toxic

I think this post might be ironic
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>>144122068
Maybe if you can explain why it's damaging instead of throwing out insults and racial slurs, I'd understand. Because I'm stupid, and now apparently autistic, you see.

Nanoha and the Nanoha fandom are very large, expansive things. So large that western fans likely don't exist in the eyes of Japanese fans and creators, else we'd get the shows released or simulcast over here. Knowing that, it's hard to imagine the "spray paint" of dissenting opinions from people like dumb ol' me have the power to damage much of anything. But if you could explain specifically why it's so harmful and who I'm harming in the process, I may come to understand and realize the error of my ways, leading to a better world for us all. Wouldn't that be wonderful?

But I guess I'm just too dumb to speak to properly. Darn.
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They are going to close down the Innocent game 's feature phone edition, smartphone edition not affected because of service improvement

Also, vivid strike is to be considered as the latest work of Nanoha series according to it's ED single's promo info
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I can't believe /a/ still can be baited so hard, I remember when vivid came out there was one anon samefagging making a fool of himself calling it non-canon because it got announced as a spin-off. Same thing with the movie sound stages/a la carte/vivid life, basically there is someone denying everything that happened after A's that reconfirms Nanoha and Fate's relationship/family/marriage.
Also is that antictack kun in this thread?
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>>144121435
Everyone knows that if you protect a loli you must take responsibility.
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>>144122904
old mods this, old mods that, even if you were some transhumanist AI composed of different personalities in theory, in practice you still post like a highly specific and identifiable individual autist, so yeah, anticrack-kun is sadly very real.

I wish this shit at least happened once the thread was autosaging anyway like in the last two ocassions.

Damn, why I am even trying to talk into this wall.
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>>144122869
Nobody is stupid, it is just that nobody is as absurdly anal about these things as you are, and hence your rage about the IMHO quite innocent things is completely out of this world to the rest of the thread's anons.

Now I for example hate rape and other nasty doujins (like Cyclone) et cetera, because of the way our fav characters are treated in them. But I won't raise such monumental foam-around-mouth fuss due to that, because I know to act in moderation and not be an autist (in the 4chan sense of the term).
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>>144123555
I had never heard of you before this thread, but after some digging the typos and cartoonish racism seem like decent tipoffs.

Oh and the pathological obsession with proving people wrong about the relationships of cartoon characters.
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>>144123774
He appears fairly often, after somebody mentions some ship that goes against NanoFate (to make that clear I ship them too, but hate to see it go this crazy). And there are other ways to bring him up, like suggesting they have threesomes with Hayate, or posting some questionable doujins he hates.

I only started to look at /a/ when Vivid was about to air, but in this 1 year I have seen it many times.

He's a huge fan I guess, since he lurks all the threads. Might probably talk with us normally all the time without us suspecting, before some spark igniting his volatile stuff occurs. And in the same way, he talks with us normally without realizing we are the same people he then considers his phantom samefag enemy after going into the rage mode.
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>>144122428
>Also, vivid strike is to be considered as the latest work of Nanoha series according to it's ED single's promo info
What're you talking about.
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>>144123986
I guess I know to keep away from Nanoha threads now.

What a shame, looks like most of them start out decently.
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>>144124169
It's not always this bad, although that might be because people forced themselves into self-censoring which basically means he has his way (a bit sad). Actually we had nice conversations here lately.

I usually just try to ignore and report and hope mods will clean up. What he does isn't strictly against the rules, but the level of obnoxiousness is high.
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>>144124265
He is on permanent ban status because of his rampant ban dodging and trying to dox mods. Not that it helps since he just posts from his phone.
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>>144124361
>Crack however is actually against multiple global rules
Ok maybe you're actually amazing. This is hilarious.
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>>144124361
>Low quality content, off topic, and these days, spam.
Those are the ones you break then, actually. Thansk for clarification.
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>>144124169
Just learn to recognize the signs and not throw more fuel into the fire.

And seriously, just stop arguing about canon and stuff like that. Its pretty silly and is just setting it up for this kind of shit to come in.
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>>144124410
Oh shit, you posted something vaguely similar to me one second later. Guess we're the same person now, sorry anon.
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Hmm, is Nanoha - Yuuno even crack? Doesn't seem to hit the definition IMHO, it's more like possible ship in the past.

I'd say crack would be something like Yuuno-Precia, or Yuuno-Nanoha's dad. Or mom, that could be hilarious. What do you think about those, /a/?
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>>144124516
Question: Are you the same guy as >>144105006 ?
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>>144124506
No worries, I he taught me to be the same person already.
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>>144124708
>This is an anonymous website, you address each post based solely on the information presented in it as a stand alone. Fuck off, newshit.

Is that a yes or no? I'm really curious.
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So, if Vivid s2 is confirmed, and so is Vivid Strike, what do you anons suppose Vivid Strike is going to be about?
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>>144124516

>>144121196
*half

And sheer what?

>>144121277
*you're

>>144122068
*way

>>144122869
>you are honestly think stupid
*its
*painting
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>>144103029
Was this actually a thing in ViviD? Because I didn't read the entire manga, I just stopped where the anime finished.

Fate agonizing over whether she had become just like her mother sounds like real drama that I would like to see.
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>>144124871
It was in StrikerS, Scaglietti taunts her about it toward the end.
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>>144124907
Fuck, you're right and I forgot.

I guess that means ViviD has almost zero character development for the cast that we already knew, if that's the case.
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>>144124871
And I think it is a part of one of the earlier StrikerS soundstages (1st or 2nd). It was a bit forced, but then again, Fate is a bit awkward still and we love that about her.
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>>144124932
Fate agonizing over whether she became just like Precia would be interesting(Considering that she kind of did), but then her 2 adopted kids went off to do their own things on their own.
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>>144125100
I think it wasn't agonizing if she is like Precia, she was just afraid she isn't a good mom/guardian and that she doesn't know how to talk with Caro/Erio and that they perhaps might be disappointed in here, stuff like that - IIRC.
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>>144122904
Ah yes, the mod logs where they complain about a certain ban evading anti crack autist. Was a fun read.
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>>144118330
There can be more than one official canon of the same set of characters. What's so hard to get?

There's a goofy part of the multiverse where Signum amd Shamal share a bed and Micaiah strips people for no reason.
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>>144125631
>There can be more than one official canon of the same set of characters. What's so hard to get?
Everything approved by the owner of the rights is canon, what you mean is different continuities, and Nanoha has like 5 of them, but most installments are part of the original continuity, and that includes Nanoha Vivid, The Movie Sound Stages, and Vivid Life.

Aside of that, there is a multiverse theory going for Nanoha, so technically everything can be part of the same continuity, but I don't want to open that can of worms.
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>>144125631
>no reason
I bet she has a naughty reason.
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>>144117184
>loves boobs
canon

>and molests her subordinates
Fanon. It was specifically stated she's very polite about it and does it to people she knows can play along and usually in relaxed situations. The commander don't go around the base groping people on a normal work day. Probably on parties, group baths and the like.

Its fans who want to make her into an abusive degenerate in the body of a young woman which frankly is pretty annoying. She's a very kind person.
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>>144125791
>Everything approved by the owner of the rights is canon
What makes you think so? That is not an established fact or rule at all.
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>>144125876
>What makes you think so? That is not an established fact or rule at all.
That's how the media industry works, everything made by the owner of the rights for a franchise is part of the franchise universe, unless stated otherwise by the owner of the rights or a representative or by the setting of the installment itself, like it happened a couple of years ago with Star Wars, and like what happens all the time with Marvel and DC comics.
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>>144120898
On the contrary i accept it as light hearted self-satire taking elememts of the main canon which is the intention of the writers and the best way of respecting their work.
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>>144126053
> which is the intention of the writers and the best way of respecting their work.
The best way of respecting their work is not being in denial about it, also being one genre or another doesn't make one manga become an AU fanfiction, that's disrespectful.
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>>144125791
>Aside of that, there is a multiverse theory going for Nanoha
It's not theory. The Materials traveled from the PSP verse to the main timeline in a sound stage.

And besides when Tsuzuki said ViVid Life is in the main timeline? As in textually saying it?

>>144125813
That ViVid Micaiah probably don't.
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>>144126092
The Japanese don't even care about canon as much as you seem to think they do. The idea of canon is mostly a Western thing because our history with religions has conformed the populace to assert whichever book they read is the true and correct one. In Japan they write whatever they think would be cool or exciting, using existing properties or not. It's also part of the reason the doujin market is able to flourish, because they don't have retards like yourself yelling at them for breaking canon with the fanworks.
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>>144126092
>Both of those stories have events that happened in side content referenced in the main setting.
>Nove: hey Micaiah, remember that time when you where stripping young girls in your dojo for pleasure?
>Micaiah: what?
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This ridiculous focus on canon only exists due to a stupid refusal by fans to treat subtext as textual, despite the fact that subtext exists almost purely to heavily imply things about the text itself. Nobody beyond deluded people could read Nanoha and Fate's relationship as anything but that of a couple, and the existence of such a large amount of subtext is enough to confirm the relationship on its own, by any reasonable literary standard.
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>>144124597
>Yuuno-Nanoha's dad
That might not be all that bad...
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>>144126329
>And besides when Tsuzuki said ViVid Life is in the main timeline?
Everything is part of the main timeline unless it doesn't fit it or it is stated otherwise, the writer doesn't need to explicitly state every new volume or every new manga that "this story takes place in the 'main timeline' ", with 'main timeline' not even being an official thing, all 5 or so timelines are just made up concepts to make sense of all the alternate realities this franchise has created, like >>144126422 said Japan doesn't care too much about canon and they just write.

>>144126498
Every piece of information present in an installment of a franchise doesn't have to be referred by another installment to validate the information as canon.
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>>144126574
>by any reasonable literary standard.
Yeah, people was saying that when StrikerS aired, the guy claiming everything after that is not canon is just the usual shitposting.
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>>144126610
Make sense of Micaiah then. She's a different person in life.
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>>144126610
>Every piece of information present in an installment of a franchise doesn't have to be referred by another installment to validate the information as canon.
Sort of, if you understand the limits of what you are talking about. If you have two stories and no events are referenced in each other then they aren't canon. Because you can't just baselessly call something canon with no support.
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>>144126703
>If you have two stories and no events are referenced in each other then they aren't canon.

I said :
>Every piece of information present in an installment of a franchise doesn't have to be referred by another installment
This doesn't imply that two installments with no things in common have to be part of the same canon, which isn't the case of Vivid life that shares the same setting with Vivid obviously.
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>>144126622
It's mostly because a group of NanoFate fans aren't jyst happen with their pairing being canon but also want to erase/ignore every trace and implication of them not being a thing in every installment of the franchise. They use the "canon doesn't matter" defense as an excuse when they don't want to explain the lack of a marriage or stuff like that but rabbidly claim not canon at stuff like Yuuno and Nanoha still having some chemistry in StrikerS. It was just a single scene and nothing came of it but it still makes them boil and go ballistic. They're very inconsistent about their approach to the franchise so its difficult to take their words seriously.
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>>144126575
Or Yuuno+Miyuki.
>Some weird and unexpected flame got ignited and suddenly Nanoha's sis is pregnant with a little ferretling boy/girl. Miyuki is free, after all, Mom and Dad might be glad she marries and brings forth grandkids.
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>>144126691
Don't forget Corona. In Life Corona is a raging yurifag who draws doujin of Vivio and Rio.
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>>144126889
What fanfiction is this from?
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>>144126871
>This doesn't imply that two installments with no things in common have to be part of the same canon, which isn't the case of Vivid life that shares the same setting with Vivid obviously.
There are parodies that share the same setting. You can tell the difference when the parody start to make outrageous stuff that raise questions about their plausibility on the referenced work or the humour starts getting too self-referential.
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>>144126940
Yeah, basically the idea is that you should stop being generous with the "author approved = canon" rule once more crazy moments like that appear in parody/omake stuff.
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>>144126691
>>144126940
How does any of that make Vivid life be part of a different continuity? Someone already explained that we don't necessarily have to see all the sides of the new characters in Vivid.
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>>144126871
Just make sure, you statement was rather vague.

>>144126889
>fans aren't jyst happen with their
Nice broken English. And I have yet to see an actual fan of NanoFate say canon doesn't matter, as the canon of the series actually supports them. It 100% looks like you are the retard who's trying to claim anything and everything is canon, though.
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>>144126917
Hey, they got along pretty well in one of the sound stages.

It'd prevent her from being forever alone while Kyouya is off with his waifu.
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>>144127044
Just making sure, your statement was rather vague.***
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>>144125100
>but then her 2 adopted kids went off to do their own things on their own.

And then she apparently didn't keep pictures of them.
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>>144127040
I think being a raging lesbian/enjoying stripping lolis with malice would be something noticeable on their original characters if that was really a thing.
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>>144127004
Parodies are often not official, and there are also official ones. A manga being advertised as a parody has no implications about it not being canon, not that Vivid life was ever announced as that either.
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>>144127136
>A manga being advertised as a parody has no implications about it not being canon
What?
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>>144127128
Not necessarily, and that's an exaggeration too.
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>>144127065
My thoughts exactly. IIRC she found his ferret form really cute as a teenager and petted him a lot.
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>>144127221
>Chatacters act nothing like themselves
>"It's an exaggeration, nothing changes".
This is George Lucas level of retard.
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>>144126940
Corona was a yurifag in the official anthologies too.
That doesn't make her any different or contradict the main manga. Maybe that was Tsuzuki's idea.
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>>144127274
Since its not happening amyway somebody shpuld write a fic of that. I suguest the title "My pet boyfriend".
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>>144127302
>anthologies which are just a bunch of one shots by random artists

How related to this discussion. As in these are even farther removed from being canon than Life.
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>>144127278
No, the exaggeration was your definition of the character's traits.

Also
>Chatacters act nothing like themselves
That's not for you to define.
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Would people read a quest if I made one in /qst/? I don't want to wait until 2017 until my next Nanoha fix.
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>>144127278
>Chatacters act nothing like themselves
This is just your opinion. I see nothing wrong in Vivid Life.
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>>144127514
>As in these are even farther removed from being canon than Life.
Both are canon as people have explained to you this thread, I think this is the first time the "A la carte is not canon!" shitposting has happened in months.
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>>144127302
>Corona was a yurifag in the official anthologies too.
Yurifag =/= raging lesbo. It's the same mistake fandom do woth Hayate.
Playful skinship =/= deranged molester.
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>>144127589
Yeah I'm sure we all remember the scene in StrikerS after Vivio was found, Nanoha and Vivio went off to a random place and found a magical lolifying artifact, which was then never brought up again.
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>>144106540
I'll never understand how is it possible that with so many cute doujinshi, the cutest is the one about tentacle rape
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>>144127514
>hey guys, vivid life can't possibly be canon, it has raging lesbians!
>vivid is just a spin off, it isn't canon, force is the official sequel
>movie sound stages? the movies can't be an in universe production, these sound stages are not canon!
>official anthologies? nope, not official
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>>144127712
>which was then never brought up again.
Because a specific plot device being used only once means it makes the whole manga it's from part of a different canon. Brilliant logic there.
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>>144127514
Or not. The official anthologies have Tsuzuki's name too. Their authors couldn't draw whatever they wanted. For example, there will never be an official Nanoha anthology with a story about Nanoha and Yuuno's wedding.
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>>144127838
Or an anthology about Yuuno for that matter, but I think there was one with Chrono and Yuuno.
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>>144127606
>Yurifag =/= raging lesbo
What are you even talking about.
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>>144127838
Or a wedding at all. Tsuzuki wants to avoid conforming anything at all costs.
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>>144128138
Except it has been confirmed already as you have been corrected already in this thread plenty of times. But I agree, a Nanoha/Fate wedding flashback is not something that really fits the anthologies, there is almost no explicit romantic interactions for any of the couples in this series to begin with.
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>>144127753
That's quite a leap from my claim that a gag parody manga is not canon.

Vivid is billed as the sequel to StrikerS.
Sound Stages are extra material to expand on the existence of the movies, and how the movies are not meant to be retcons or canon, but they exist in the universe.
Official anthologies are officially published, they are not necessarily events that happened. Life falls in here, being a published, non-doujin work; but that does not mean the stuff in it has taken place in the actual setting, unless there was some confirmation these events are supposed to be considered as fact and not parody.

>>144127823
The timeframe doesn't even work out because after Vivio was found everything started going to shit and there was no instances when Nanoha and Vita had been out looking for relics when they were training the forwards and fighting Jail's bots.
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>>144127913
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>>144128370
>Official anthologies are officially published, they are not necessarily events that happened.
The events happened as long as the author doesn't claim the opposite.

>Life falls in here
Everything that you don't like falls in that category.

>The timeframe doesn't even work out because after Vivio was found everything started going to shit and there was no instances when Nanoha and Vita had been out looking for relics when they were training the forwards and fighting Jail's bots.
There was a lot of time for that after they rescued Vivio or even after they found her.
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>>144128617
>Everything that you don't like falls in that category.
That was from the anon shitposting about NanoFate not being married, so more than being things he doesn't like it's about things made after Vivid I would say.
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>>144128617
Nice job telling me what I like and don't like.

I like Vivid Life for what it is, but I don't assume it is a serious take on the universe. It is just parody of the franchise. Note that parody isn't a bad word like you seem to be thinking it is.
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>>144128370
>Official anthologies are officially published, they are not necessarily events that happened. Life falls in here, being a published, non-doujin work; but that does not mean the stuff in it has taken place in the actual setting, unless there was some confirmation these events are supposed to be considered as fact and not parody.
Are you Tsuzuki? No? Then you cannot decide what is parody or fact.
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>>144128954
>I like Vivid Life for what it is, but I don't assume it is a serious take on the universe.
It isn't a serious take, it is comedy.

> It is just parody of the franchise.
It was never stated at such, not all comedy is parody, and tagging a manga as parody doesn't give you the power to arbitrarily make any of Tsuzuki's manga non canon.
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>>144127838
I'm pretty sure he gives them more free hand than he would give himself in actual canon manga, precisely because everyone sane realizes these stories even if nice are not to be taken as a part of the absolutely canon universe and that they are just side more or less doujin-like side dishes made for fun.
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>>144129189
Vivid Life was written in the main timeline so it's canon to that timeline, that is how canon works.

You're the one screaming "parody! parody!" like a madman claiming that is reason enough to make it part of a different timeline. The truth is the only person that can make the statement that something that seems to be part of the canon is not is the author.
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>>144129318
They're canon too though, and pretty sure the guidelines of each chapter are approved or provided by someone other than the guest artists, as proven by the consistency in these anthologies.
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>>144128275
People apparently disagree with your concept of what "confirmed" means. That's why they go on while you insist all has been said twenty times.
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>>144129544
>People apparently disagree with your concept of what "confirmed" means.
Probably only you and someone else, most time it's people uninformed, other times it's just shitposting.

Good thing most of the old shitposters realized how pointless is shitposting about Nanoha and Fate past 2010.
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>>144129388
Because any sane person would see Corona actively shipping her friends together/with herself and realize that is not how Corona actually acts in the series. There is no hint of this hidden personality in the manga proper, despite it being the entirety of her personality in Life.
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Anyway this really goes in circles. I'll just say that I disagree with your idea that everything that is not explicitly said to be non-canon is to be viewed as canon. It just doesn't make sense, IMHO.

WTF even - do you expect to put noncanon stickers on publications? Do you claim that you know all statements of the authors to know what they said about individual antohologies/mangas/etc?

And with that, I'll leave this topic.
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>>144129722
>that is not how Corona actually acts in the series. There is no hint of this hidden personality in the manga proper
That's fairly common in multi-installment franchises, and is not a problem nor does it magically create an alternate timeline.
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>>144129759
>I'll just say that I disagree with your idea that everything that is not explicitly said to be non-canon is to be viewed as canon
By your logic nothing in Nanoha is canon with any other previous work, because the author never went out of his way to state "this is canon". Brilliant logic of your part.
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>>144129759
>Do you claim that you know all statements of the authors to know what they said about individual antohologies/mangas/etc?
It was you or some other guy claiming that the author said those are not cannon and to be considered "parody", which we're still waiting source on.
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>>144129894
No, I just say that you are supposed to use the bloody common sense thing when reading stuff besides the core anime, manga series and sound stages. Vivid Life is not considered core because of its omake nature by me, to clarify.
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>>144129964
>It was you or some other guy claiming that the author said those are not cannon and to be considered "parody", which we're still waiting source on.

Stop putting stuff into people's mouths, strawman anon.
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>>144130008
CTRL+F parody and see that guy trying to justify his unreasonable views on the franchise.
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>>144129975
>Vivid Life is not considered core because of its omake nature by me, to clarify.
Most people would agree with that, but most people would also not claim this manga is less canon for that same reason.
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>>144129964
I never said anything about Tsuzuki's claims about the series, because as far as I know he has not talked about it at all and just has his name on it as a mark of authenticity. That doesn't make it canon, just official where without his name the series could be seen as a doujin work. Just like how Kirara Magica is sanctioned by Magica Quartet, but the stories inside are not necessarily canon.
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>>144130361
When I said the author was the only one that can make a statement, I meant it has to be done through his work.

Also even if this is an anonymous image board you shouldn't be so aggressive, that's one reason why some people are so opposing to you.
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>>144130333
>That doesn't make it canon
No, but the fact that the manga fits the original story, and that the author approved its content and published it, makes it canon.
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I am praying that Vivid Strike is a full reboot and there are actual stakes and good characters. S1 and A's were good because we gave a shit what was happening. I know it won't happen because Tsuzuki likes his bullshit SOL martial arts, but I can dream.

I will watch S2 because I simply have nothing left.
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>>144130361
>Death of the Author
Wheee, Barthez. Anon nice, you made me go back to my university years. I think I even read it whole (it was an essay, not a whole book, IIRC). I actually wrote my final papers about narratology.

Got to say that I don't completely agree with this structuralistic position myself, I think it is too radical and one-sided and I would actually give the author some say - let's say 50/50 split of authority between the writer and the text itself - to be simple, no idea right now what weights to assign etc.

(I'm this anon for clarity >>144129975 >>144129759 >>144129318 , not that guy)
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>>144130732
You have to believe in the 3. Check it.
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>>144124828
Vivio-mama and Einhart-mama training people and adopt/make a kid?
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>>144130845
It's been 3 years since it was announced, anon. No hope.
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>>144130959
Getting the SonoHana OVA staff to draw 5 hours of well-animated NanoFate sex takes time and money. It'll be worth the weight.
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>>144129759
Vivid Life is a complementary manga to Vivid. Just like the anime and the sound stages, A's and its manga, Strikers and its manga, GoD and Material Musume, Force and Force Dimension, Innocent and MM Innocent.
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>>144131175
Thinks you. Not everybody agrees, and let's stop at that.
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>>144131282
>You're 12 years old at best, nothing else would excuse for slow in the head you are.
So you were anticrack-kun after all, I guess. Figures.

>And your personal view means nothing.
And yours means everything. I got it. Now you can finally fuck off.
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>>144131084
Hope they resurrected Tokoharu for the storyboard, we would have a dream team there.
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>>144131838
The softest.
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>>144094870
>shoves her hand through MC's chest and puts her out of commission longer than anyone aside from flashback robot in Strikers
>never does anything ever again
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>>144131939
I'm no "crack spammer", you retard. Stop assuming stuff, idiot. And stop thinking everyone that can't stand retards like you has to be a single person.

Honestly, what is horrible about your diseaselike presence here or on /u/ is that even hardcore NanoFate shippers get attacked by your highness, just because they dare to have another idea about something.
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>>144132129
From that time on, she only puts all fingers into Signum.
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>>144102628
Wait Chrono and Amy have a couple of kids? How'd I miss that.
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>>144132402
Because it was only briefly mentioned in side material and shown in that picture, it was easy to miss.
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Anyway, Corona is a yurifag unless Tsuzuki says otherwise.
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>>144133001
I don't mind if we give her such subtext, but have to keep it in moderation, take into account that VL exagerates for fun and take into account the Vivid manga portrayal.

>blush
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>>144133001
>>144133276
I agree.
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So what kind of candy is that in her hair anyways
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>>144133385
Lilly flavour.
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This thread was better when it was about inaccurate announcements and bunny girls.
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>>144134878
We can still make it better.
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>>144135505
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Oh hey, cute cover. Not with Tea, but still.
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>>144124828
It's about Fate and Nanoha's biological child, Vivio is her mature onee-chan.
Vivid S2 will show Nanoha pregnant in order to tease this.
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>>144136900
Anon you are killing me. No more please.

I would prefer pregnant Feito though, so that she leaves the frontline duty and stays at home with wife.
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>>144129318
I agree with this person.
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>>144073415

This is great news, but is A1 handling it again?
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>>144137091
You sure you wouldn't prefer this?
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=864772
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>>144136900
>Vivid S2 will show Nanoha pregnant in order to tease this.
But Nanoha isn't supposed to give birth to Fate's baby until their 30s.
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>>144132386
>only her fingers
That's cute.
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>>144137425
That'll be her imouto that she and Vivio need to protect.
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>>144137571
I see, that makes sense.
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>>144136900
Fuuka is Reventon though, not Takamachi or Testarossa.
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>>144138053
>A child who's family loves her supposed older sister, an unhuman clone, more than her. A world in constant danger. Renouncing her name and abandoning her cruel family, she learns forbidden martial arts and fights for her own sake. But when her baby sister is put in danger, she can't turn back on her past any more. Learning to accept her older sister, and fighting to protect family.... the adventure will unfold, stay tuned for Vivid Strike!
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>>144138484
I can guarantee this is already 99% better than anything Tsuzuki will give us.
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>>144137410
We need more cute pictures for "mahou_shoujo_lyrical_nanoha pregnant"

I liked this one most.
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>>144073415
>pachinko shit

truly a ded franchise
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WHY IS EVERYONE SO MAD ABOUT NANOHA AND FIGHTING LESBIANS
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>>144139082
Who knows, maybe it's made by a better writer, there is still hope.
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>>144139490
Because they're not sex-fighting.
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>>144139490
Because the franchise has been horribly mishandled. And I don't mean the writing quality, I mean literally announcing a movie then failing to follow up, not releasing BDs, a million spinoffs happening. Even if it's King Records fault specifically or something else, this fumbling shouldn't happen in the first place.
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>>144137091
If anyone gets pregnant, it's gonna be Nanoha.

Yukarin wills it
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>>144136900
Wouldn't this have to take place AFTER Force, though?

Or are they just planning to drop Force from continuity?
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>>144140630
If you haven't noticed, he made that up.
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>>144140630
Yeah, but Force takes place only 2 years after Vivid. I think it's more likely that Vivid and everything that is set after it us going to keep ignoring the events of Force.
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>>144139094
Technically that's Jail's kid, if that's accurate.

Actual NTR.
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>>144140737
Darn, I was hoping to have a reason to ignore force.

>>144141081
This is as good of a reason as any.
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>>144124828
I don't see any of the pre-StrikerS cast in that list.
RIP old hags
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>>144140076
What the fuck even happened to the 3rd movie? Did they put Valve in charge of it or something?
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>>144124828
Basically everyone grown up so they can give the high budget and fanservice that they took away from ViVid anime because loli service is bad.
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Is Strike going to be another huge timeskip?

Because fuck

Stop the timeskips, they're terrible.

I don't want sudden timeskip to 40 year old Nanoha taking care of her 14 year old child.
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>>144124828
I'm going to guess that Strike is actually about what the Vivids are doing during Force.

IE: relocated far, far away from the scary final fantasies so they can have their tournament arcs in peace.
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>>144141736
Even if they skipped 10 years (which I doubt, that would put Vivio at 20), Nanoha and Fate would still only be 33, you know.
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>>144141279
and THIS is why I think this: >>144141848

If they send all their kids to another planet/plane of existence, someone has to chaperone. Might as well be some of the jobbers who can't fight Huckamania anyway.
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>>144141900
>>144141848
Vivio is shown at the base during Force, when Isis, Lily and Touma train.
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>>144142033
At the base itself? Because I was under the impression that it could have been anywhere, it was just a cut to Vivio.
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>>144142116
She actually shows up where they are training, comes to see Nanoha.
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>>144142198
I see

Still doesn't preclude her to living off-world and just coming to visit. I had thought originally that her appearances in Force indicated that she was living elsewhere while the incident was happening.
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>>144142198
Specifically while Signum was doing some rehab sparring with Tohma after recovering from her Cypha wounds. Shamal invited Vuvio to join and she was overjoyed but Nanoha forbbid her because it was dangerous.
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I would be ok with a timeskip.

I'm just happy there's more perfect Vivio.
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>>144142441
>I would be ok with a timeskip.

Why?
No, I'm serious, that's years that just go wasted when interesting stuff could be happening during.
It's like how we'll never know about the incident that happened after A's.
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>>144142318
Nothing such is mentioned, I think she is just alone at home while Nanoha and Fate are on permanent standby due to the incident.
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>>144142520
>living alone at home

Yeah, I don't think that's happening.
If anything she's having not-sleepovers with her not-harem.
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>>144142499
Because I love Vivio and would enjoy watching her at the age she looks in adult mode.
Also I said I'd be ok with it, not that I would prefer it.
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>>144142441
Yeah, I'll take anything with more Vivio. I really like her. I don't think they use her to nearly her full potential because the stories she's in have nothing at stake (lol tournament), but there are some awesome moments where you can really tell she's Nanoha's daughter. That chapter where she beat the piss out of Ein was awesome.
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>>144142441
A second timeskip might make me drop Nanoha.
Especially if it skips past Force, doesn't answer anything about it or if it's even going to continue, and just cuts half of the cast like the promo image suggests.
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>>144142601
>having not-sleepovers with her not-harem
Damn, I really hope they are not going to sideline the Vivid gang in favour of new VA duo.

The best think that could be made with that constraint I think is for the new girls to be antagonists and the Vivids being the protagonists and they will befriend and save the new girls.

Basically in terms of first season Vivids = Nanoha, New girls = Fate. Except that the roles won't be played by single characters but by a hopefully yuri couple(s).
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>>144142762
>not wanting them to just pretend like Force never existed
But why?
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>>144142861
-It's not finished
-I don't think they're ever going to finish it, or if they do it will be cut-down
-I'm not even sure I want to see it finished at this point

It's just gone on so long without any progress that I've long since lost any love I may have had for it.

When did we get Fortress form? Three, Five years ago?
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>>144142861
Force failed but at least tried. I want to know thr conclusion of that arc and have closure from that terribly wild ride.
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>>144143523
Then just let it die.

>>144143558
It must really say something about the state of Nanoha that people want Force back, wow.
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>>144143558
I always had the feeling most people didn't bother to read more than a few chapter of Force.
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>>144143586
>Then just let it die.

Fine by me!
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>>144143623
It's a shame because it has some good things going on with it

For one, it has the best villain trio.

but so many mistakes right up front. take the first few chapters out and the series improves dramatically.
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>>144143885
>For one, it has the best villain trio.
Who were them again? I recall seeing a FF-like guy, the girl that some people shipped with Signum, and the teleporter from the Force 4-koma.
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>>144143586
>It must really say something about the state of Nanoha that people want Force back, wow.
Indeed, i would prefer FORCE coming back than any of the pointless arcs and hollow lolis ViVid started throwing after the tournament arc.
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>>144144199
I would take that over Force any day.
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>>144144032
No, they're the team-rocket of the series. More entertaining than threatening.

Fuck, I can't remember their names, all of the sudden.

Grendals, I think?
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Guys, I want to have another Nanoha thread after this one, but this time we don't argue for 200+ posts about just how gay the cast is exactly in nanofates.

Clear?
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>>144144262
Enjoy your paradise. I prefer bad but coherent plot that goes somewhere instead of more inconsequential filler that introduces characters that wpuld only became crowd cameos after their first appearance. Stick with the tournament veterans dammnit! They're far more interesting than Einhart's boring massage classmate or the entirety of the cast introduced in space china.
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>>144144199
I disagree. As bad as "That Training Tournament Filler Arc but Made Into A Whole Series" is, it's still not even a quarter as bad as Force.
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>>144144765
>Coherent plot

Not the same guy as you responded to, but I rather just point this out and let it sit on its own for just a second to see if you sincerely believe that.
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>>144144724
There will always be some baiting and feeding in every thread, Nanoha doesn't even have it particularly bad, and the anti nanofate shistposting isn't really common anymore, last thread we had something about the movies compared to A's and in the thread before that was something about someone trying to justify Force was actually good if I recall correctly.
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>>144144908
Man, the list of topics that can't be discussed due to people being too anal about them is longer and longer.
And that's with the Betrayers doujin not being mentioned for a while (and the inevitable arguing of muh deaths people with Nanoha is not supposed to be grimdark people.

Life is sour, oneechan.
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>>144144423
They're indeed the Grendel family and were pretty based. Hopefully ViVid Strike will feture some expies of them. Kurt was awesome, a powerful idiot pimp is what this franchise needed.
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>>144145095
>Betrayers doujin
Don't remind me.
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>>144145523
I don't think people watch Nanoha for the male characters, that image doesn't look like something from Nanoha to begin with.
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>>144145622
>expies

No need, just re-introduce them as exactly the same role they were in, and they would work out great.
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>>144145622
Some people watch it for the story and characters regardless of gender. I enjoy the kickass ladies as much as the next guy but also have enjoyed the rare momemts of brilliance with the guys. Chrono in S1 was all flavours of badass. Zafira is cool by itsel and StrikerS gave us Vice, Verossa, Jail and Zrst that were all entertaining. Tohma is lackluster but Veyron and Kurt are quite interesting. Deville is pretty unique.
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>>144145900
Zafira was fine, and I liked adult Chrono only because of his VA, but I couldn't care less about the rest of male characters.
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Is there any other anime fandom that autistically spends more time arguing over whether something is canon or not than the Nanoha community?
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>>144145981
The answer is Madoka. Always Madoka.
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>>144145981
Type-Moon
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>>144145981
Oh that's a tough question, um:

>>144146033
YES, got it.

To be fair, Nanoha's problem is that Tsuzuki really doesn't seem to know what he is doing. Most of the legwork that went into shaping the series was written by other people.

Maybe if we ask really nicely, he'll even let us write our own Nanoha canonical spinoff.
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>>144145981
Fate series
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>>144146033
Might be the same guys at it, in case of Madoka. (Minus me, I didn't have the guts to finish said series and stay clear since.)
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>>144145981
It's not something very common, a few people have been claiming certain parts of the series are not canon since the release of Vivid, that's a long time in total, some other series may have it worse but most of them won't get frequent threads for 10+ years.
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>>144145981
UC-universe Gundam
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>>144146056
Type-MOON have different problems, thought. They're less about canon and more about the quality of adaptations and source material and how everyone that hasn't checked it is an inferior human being.
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I'd say that I would miss you guys until next time, but it's already begun.
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>>144146114
>Maybe if we ask really nicely, he'll even let us write our own Nanoha canonical spinoff.

can you even
imagine
what that would look like at the end of the day?
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>>144146201
And it's only mostly regarding universe mechanics than anything else. Since Type-MOON runs very much on the parallel universe rule thus all events shown do actually occur.

Nanoha does have the multiverse rule as well but it has barely ever capitalized on it apart from the PSP games and Innocents.
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>>144146378
They should just have hired MekiMeki, their new Saki manga is looking pretty good, and the art is better than ever.
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>>144124828
Hope they at least release a PV at the next Comiket.
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>>144146114
>To be fair, Nanoha's problem is that Tsuzuki really doesn't seem to know what he is doing. Most of the legwork that went into shaping the series was written by other people.
in all seriousness, how does someone get permission to write material for Nanoha? Tsuzuki seems to just hand it out to anyone he personally knows.

Or is that the result of him contracting it to other people behind the scenes?
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>>144146698
I wonder if that's his decision or Seven Arcs'.
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>>144144822
Force had many failures but you can't really accuse it of having a incoherent plot. It was garbage but it was obvious it was all planed and given thought. Which is sad because probably that's why Tsuzuki doesn't seem tp care anymore and delegates stuff to lots of people. He gave us the fruit of his effort and creativity and we all puked on it. I still think FORCE is bad but i feel sorry for him. He even seemed enthusiastic about the Huckebein.
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>>144146919
I was enthusiastic too until the Huckebein betrayed Belka.

Huckebeins: not even once.
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>>144146363
Oh, really. I didn't spot it right away.
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>>144147000
Thoughts?
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