Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1596

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>>143807617
xth for 疲れた

has anyone ever pirated Japanese: The Spoken Language

>>143807617
KONNICHIWA WATASHI WA ATARASHII NIHONGO NO SHABERI NINGEN DOU ITASHIMASITE

DOU YATTE "PLEASURE OF BEING CUMMED INSIDE" ITTERU KA SHIRA , KOTAE YORI ARIGATOU

>>143807815
> 膣外射精されての喜びさ
興奮したこの野郎またシコシコしなきゃ

>>143808066
yall get aroused by memes then huh
nice dubs

6th for kanji pazuru

私 master race here
俺 fags 帰れ

>>143808168
>not 我

>>143808168
I used boku when I was in japan, I was 24 years old. Did I do that correctly or how does that shit work I still don't know

>>143808282
ware ware wa legion desu

>>143808342
我はロボット

>>143808168
I just heard a nip girl today who used 俺等

>>143808413
おいら is cute as HECK desu

>>143808131
いいえ、私に中出しとか犯すとか興奮くれる仕方ないだからミームは関係ない。

>>143808379
lobot lobotomy would be a fun jrock band name

How do you guys remember the Kanji? Sometimes I recognize the Kanji but forget what it means

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>>143808303
>>143808342
>>143808435

nice namefagging :^)

>>143808434
thats like getting aroused at the word "sex" though anon, i wont judge tho

>>143808303
ore is masculine and for middle to young adult age, boku is young male typically and 自信ないタイプ, watashi is neutral and atashi/watakushi are feminine, iirc.

>>143808467
what're you talking about I'm an anonymous user like the rest of you

>>143808486
Girls sometimes use ore and boku too.

>>143808523
I never said whether or not girls or boys were restricted on using them I just said what their affiliations with gender are
ore is masculine and if a girl uses it its kinda weird, boku is said by tomboys in anime alot
i know of a single male character that uses atashi as well
so it's not restricted it's just how they're seen gender-wise

>>143808459
Continue studying.
Read more.

Looks like a joke, but seriously just keep at it.
I'm getting at the point while doing my kanji deck that I'm getting the meaning of some stuff just from similar/past words.

Also, one trick I use is to use association with anything you remember or enjoy.
For example I always forget this 合板 but it only took me one look at 戦 to never forget it (because of 戦乙女).

>>143808486
わたくし isn't feminine, it's just formal

儂 is really the only way to go though

>>143808580
I know. When talking in a casual way, it doesn't really matter what you use.

>>143808486
well im a confident son of a bitch so im goin full ore next time i speak with an eleven

awser to the kanji puzzle was 6 by the way

>>143808630
わっち is my favorite of the archaic
holo and I think shinobu use it

>>143808728
or you could make one up
WAGAJI WA JOHN DESU

>>143808758
死ね

>>143808728
shinobu just uses わし the classic のじゃロリ pronoun

>参加費

>>143809009
no ja is annoying cuz its always some old bitch
or like some female whoze really smart and is already 80 years old mentally like that grill from shimoneta or probably washu from tenchi muyo

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>>143807705
Heh, nice meme.

By the way, what's the japanese equivalent of "meme"?

>>143809113
Neta I'd figure

>>143806930
なんだよ、お前?　本気で諦めたいならいいんだろう。誰かに勉強させられているワケないのじゃん？この世の中には、出来る人だけが成功するからな。自分に聞いてみろう。「俺、出来るのか？」自信持って答えられないなら諦めれば方がいいと思う。

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>>143809087
old but cute

>>143809242
the real question is do you drink

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>>143809190

長い書いた。。。

君は大丈夫？

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おはようおにいちゃん

気温３７度、湿度６３％だよ

カンカンだよ

>>143809417

Same here but it's almost 100% humidity.

エアコンの効いた部屋でぼくのなつやすみ2をプレイ

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>>143809417
ここはずいぶん涼しいよ
気温１８度だよ
午後１０時だからだな

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>なつめくんはなんでも知ってる
>translated as Natsume-kun doesn't know anything
Shouldn't this be "knows everything/anything"?

>>143809786
>trusting translators

>>143809786
yeah the translator is a retard that failed beginner's grammar and assumed from anime that the ~でも pattern implies inversion

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>don't need translators for porn anymore
>can literally just open raw doujins and read them off the bat
This feeling is fucking amazing. I'm so glad I decided to learn this language.

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>>143809678
よるでも２８度だよ

にほんもシエスタがほしいよ

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>>143809842
I'm almost there

Is there any merit in leaving production cards in your vocab decks? They were incredibly helpful in the beginning, but now that I can write somewhat comfortably and learn new words/kanji easier, they feel like a waste of time. Although, they still seem to have a beneficial effect on my retention.

>>143809909
any seeming benefits are merely a result of spending more time studying that word

どうかこれに懲りずにまたいらして下さい。

We'd love to have you over again. (lit., I hope you'll see fit to overlook our meager hospitality and come again.)

＞懲りず
how does this even work?

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>>143809842
>>143809882
I'll never be there...

>>143809969
>I'm going to be deaf anyway
wait what
elaborate

>>143808474
違うの、あんた分からないのか、ゴム無しの性交で大きくて強くて激しくて男の強引支配されるの感じるのは…あ、最高わ
あの乱暴の扱さ、逃げられなくて命令従いな状況そして無意味な抵抗中で無理矢理に挿入してくれて…
いつもこんな事考えるのは本当にどうしようもなくなっちゃう

とにかく、冗談において、ありがとうね名無し君、普段は誰もかも私を無視してくれるだから文の練習が出来ない。

今日はもうここで終わりにする。今は本当にシコシコ行くの積もりで。では！

>>143810017
are you asking about ず or the meaning of 懲りる?
if it's the latter look it up

if it's ず then you should have looked that up already too
ず is just a negative form that works like adverbially and can be used with に to mean "without doing [verb]"

>>143810122
You're going to get a better job, you'll get a hearing aid and you'll learn Japanese. Stop being such a whiny fucking defeatist, nobody likes that.

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>>143809969
>Also I wonder how finny is feeling now that his waifus everywhere now.
It's not too bad. I get to shit on EOPs in the New Game threads for a day after a new episode airs and don't have to make ぞい子 images myself

>>143809384
疲れていて、新しい所に越したばっかりで、することもしたいこともない気分になっちゃってちょっとシットポスチング・書く練習しょうって思ったね〜〜。

パーティーに行ったから一昨日のアンキサボった事もあるけどさ、投影かもしれん

>>143810302
日本語posting in New Game threads is truly the best way to drive away cancerous crossboarding Dogakobo-fags.

>>143810122
>grindcore
just listen to post hardcore, you get the same "kill everything" mental bliss without needing loud volume
>factory work
you won't go deaf over time from that

>>143810436
This is referral spam everyone. Report and hide.

>>143809954
That's true, I suppose a similar effect could be achieved with just a lower multiplier. I suppose I just need to get over it and delete them at this point and spend the time saved on reading more. Especially now that Anki itself is starting to feel more and more useless.

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>>143810403
>Is the anime any good?
It's AOTY

For now anyways

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I use a default ease of 140% and an interval modifier of 4x and I have 98% true retention.

>>143810403
>Is the anime any good?
Better than original so far

>>143810602
>Better than original so far
significantly so

I'm having trouble with this sentence.
冗長で形容詞や修飾語が多い文章は形式的文書を不似合いです。
Its mostly the が then は

The two translations that come to mind are:
>Because of redundancy of adjectives and modifiers, many sentences are improper for formal documents.
>Many sentences with redundant adjectives and modifiers are unfit for formal documents.

Am I even close? I've never encounterd a 'noun が noun' before.

>>143810363

何でも知ってない、お前の書くのが。。。

>>143810889
sentences where tedious adjectives and modifiers are many are unsuitable for formal documents

german handles this kind of awkward construction with V2; japanese handles it with allowing relative clauses to use の instead of が; english handles it by allowing you to break the language's grammar's legs

>>143810889
It's not noun が noun, it's (noun が adjective)-noun.
頭が赤い猫
Cat with a red head.
(Could also be "my head is a red cat," so like >>143811172 said you could remove some ambiguity by using の instead of が, but obviously not all of it. With の its second meaning would be "my head's red cat" instead.)

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>>143811172
>english handles it by allowing you to break the language's grammar's legs
And then English turned into the perfect language for technical documentation.

>>143811172
>>143811430
I think I understand, but it is still confusing. Seems like it ends up as whichever way makes the most sense is the right way to translate it.

>>143811570
There's only one technically correct structure to translate it. There's a relative clause that states "There are a lot of tedious adjectives and modifiers". That relative clause is applied to "sentences". This modified "sentences" is then applied to the predicate "is/are unsuitable for formal documents".

You can change the wording of each part but you can't move pieces between the parts. That's where most translations fail and change the original meaning.

>>143811570
That's exactly how it ends up. Though it should calm you to know that no other way makes any amount of sense whatsoever in the context of your sentence.

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>>143811069
えぇ、何言ってんのよ、コイツ？
なんか言いたいコトがあんなら言えよなぁ
かかってっこい！

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おはようDJT
今日は七夕だよ

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>>143812705
それはむりだ

ばらスィーのれんさいが再開しますように

>>143807617
why reading seems like putting togheter puzzle pieces?

>>143797986

I meant on the OP puzzle.

>>143812705
NEVER

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>>143812757
>ばらスィー

いもうとさんが大ファンようだ

>>143810037
I feel you

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>>143810037
>That feel when complete inability to learn any kind of language

>>143804273

>I will destroy you and every last writing-style-blind schizophrenic trollbait-posting ignoramus out there like you once the tao descends down on my crippled body and scarred soul to grant me my holy socratesean argumentative autist powers.

Great sentence dude, was a blast to read it.

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1434910726

ok /djt/, which one of you did this? Who should I thanks?

居で私わラメンお食べるしましたです

is this correct? today i ate ramen

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>>143813265
yeah looks fine brah

>>143813265
家で私はラーメンを食べました

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How often do you brush your teeth /djt/ ?

>>143813265
for the sake of my own sanity please tell me this is bait

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>>143813478
you have to ask?

>>143813346
>>143813351
>>143813478
Getting mixed vibes here. Also why is ramen in katakana anyway? Thanks for the help though.

二本ごは簡単ですね

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>>143813265
oh my word

>>143813265
今日は私はラーメンを食べた。

not him btw, how'd i do djt?

>>143813711
pretty good
you compared yourself to today eating ramen, gud jab

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>>143813711
>not him btw

>>143813780
Not him or the other guy but, how would you say it?

>>143813711
>>143813780
今日で私はラーメンをたべた。

did i fix it?

>>143813847
You fucked it up even more

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>>143813863
according to google translate i was right the first time

how dare you make me question my nihongo skills like that

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whats with the sudden increase in ramen popularity, djt fell on hard times eh

I am just starting out. Week two of self study.

In learning the hiragana, I've found that I learn best in the following way. I memorize entire words, simple ones like "ai" or "oyasumi" or something, then use my knowledge of the whole word to remember the individual characters.

I know a few hundred words from watching shows, and mentally map words to characters.

>>143813927
as far as I can tell it's 1 retard pretending to be multiple retards, with guest performances by some other retards falling for it. all in all pretty par for the course as far as recent DJT's are concerned

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橫浜に行ってラーメン食べたい

>>143814018
cgi physics test for driving down costs of extras

>>143813924
Ok here I go

今日私はラメンを食べた

>>143814218
There's nothing wrong with 今日は私は

>>143814535
Why the 2 は tho ? I'm having trouble grasping particles.

>>143814535
今日私は sounds way more natural than 今日は私は

>week two
>learning the hiragana

Even assuming both that this is the start of your second week and that you're now completely done with them, that's still barely more than a column a day. If you're actually serious about learning Japanese, you need to consider that a large portion of the beginner phase will be simply grinding out vocabulary in kanji. Ask yourself honestly - if it's taken you this long to learn less than 50 fairly simple characters associated only with a sound, can you really see yourself going through (at least) 20 words a day, containing maybe 5-10 new kanji(which by the way usually have at least 2 standard readings you'll need to remember, with some having 4, 5, or more - oh and then there are words which don't use any of these readings at all)? I'm not trying to say you should quit, but seriously consider the amount of time and effort you're willing to put in and the extent to which that lines up with your goals.

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>>143813970
>Week two
>learning the hiragana

>mfw im gonna get a qt japanese tutor to help me

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>>143814744
>>143814747

>>143814689
>sentence topic
>predicate topic
easy

>>143814689
は is not just used as a topic marker, it also marks contrastive elements.

>>143814735
not particularly
今日私は actually sounds less natural without a comma

>>143814937
>>143814929
>predicate topic
Isn't that what が supposed to be ?

>>143815037
No, that's the accusative marker
Predicate topic is a different concept; it merely overlaps in many sentences

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ラーメンってちゅうかりょうり？

にほんりょうり？

ちゅうごくりょうり？

>>143814735
my knee-jerk reaction was the same (though I'd only really consider myself on the border of beginner and intermediate so don't take that too seriously), but google.co.jp gives about 3x more results for "今日は私は" vs "今は私は" so now I'm not so sure. Could be a writing vs speech thing? Most of my reading experience comes from manga.

>>143814689
read more. don't try to translate particles or think about what they "mean", just read native content and focus on understanding sentences as a whole rather than thinking about individual parts. The more you read, the more you'll build an intuitive sense of how each particle is used to express various concepts

>>143815054
Ok, non-native english speaker here. Sometimes reading grammar is a bit confusing (I do have a french grammar book though).

>>143815106
インドのカレーと日本のカレーは別物
中国のラーメンと日本のラーメンも別物

>>143815113
Native english speakers are generally bad with english terms for general language's grammar. I only know some because linguistics.

>>143815106
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A1%E3%83%B3#.E6.B2.BF.E9.9D.A9

>>143815112
you're simply both misinformed beginners

>>143814937
there's two は because there are two topics, nothing is being contrasted in that sentence
>>143815037
が is awkward to use in that sentence for reasons you should have learned from tae kimochi the japanese grammar meishu
introducing a topic with it is offhanded

>>143815142

linguistic student here, that's happen with italian too. I think it's a general thing, a native doesn't really know them because they don't need to. I bet if I go in England, asking about the difference between present perfect and present perfect continuos, or word collocations I will get puzzled look.

>>143815302
>here's two は because there are two topics, nothing is being contrasted in that sentence

Not him but isn't there only one topic in that sentence : what I ate today ?

>>143815654
that's not a topic

>>143815138
日本のカレーの起源は韓国ニダ
日本のラーメンの起源は韓国ニダ

>>143813927
For a moment I thought that those were real people, and was wondering what the fuck they were doing.

>震感
arigatou nihonjin tachi

>>143816459
daves just that good
helps that the lighting is all raytraced unlike game engines

>>143817658
可哀想

Absolute beginner here.

How the fuck do I really get going with this? I read the sticky, but I feel directionless. I've learned Hiragana and I'm making decent headway on Kata, plus I've remembered a lot of kanji that I've come across.

My question now is, what the fuck do I do? I can't understand any grammar guides because basically I'm fucking retarded and have almost 0 technical understanding of English.

What's something I can do as a beginner to make progress regularly? Is starting off grinding vocab a bad idea? Will my brain just figure out the grammatical syntax on it's own if I can read most of the words in a sentence?

>>143817735
Can you understand Tae Kim?

>>143817022
You can't learn Japanese.

>>143817735
Grammars the most important part, especially as a beginner, and I highly doubt you'd get very far just trying to figure out grammar though vocab alone, if you can't read grammar guides you can't learn Japanese

>>143817735
>almost 0 technical understanding of English

a lot of grammar guides are written by english majors that expect you to construct sentences, not just read

so read timmy kimmy and you'll be good

>>143817735
>grammar guides hard
just do it
>is memorizing vocabulary bad
no; it's better than memorizing kanji if you don't know what you're doing
>emergent grammar
only from anime and not a lot

browser keeps crashing accept this shitty post before it's too late

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>>143817658
訳が分からない

Does anyone know if the newer pokemon games have kanji in them? I want to play a game with only kana in it. But don't want to play shitty SNES crap.

>>143817735
why would you need a technical understanding of english to read a grammar guide

tay kim may be a hack but if theres something to praise about his guide it's that his explanations are short, to the point, and easy to understand

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>>143817951
you're in luck

>>143817951
>shitty SNES crap

Really? How can a person have such shit taste?

>>143818108
えーマジ、ひらがなモード？！

ひらがなモード許されるのは小学生までだよねー

>>143818122
most snes games are balanced poorly

>>143818108
>おはなし
>談笑
I can understand doing this with furigana but if you only see one mode, then it's basically two different sentences? Wtf

>>143818186
it's clearly intended for little kids

>>143818265
ｆｕｃｋ　ｋｉｄｓ

>>143818334
Preach

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>>143818334
called the cops

>>143818334
reported to the NSA

enjoy the party van motherfucker

>>143817951
>I want to play a game with only kana in it.
There's no point in doing this, really.

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>>143818186
おはなしは雑談のほうがちかいとおもうよ

お話は、意味がとおいよ

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>>143818334

>>143818403
はうぅゆいちゃん超可愛い

>>143818334
お巡りぃぃぃさぁぁぁん
この人

What does 「おったまげーしょん」 mean? I couldn't find a clear answer for it.

It's probably a joke I'm too western/dumb to get.

>>143818687
Context.

>>143809842

WAIT FOR ME ANON

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>>143818687
あのんくんには

そんなこともわかんないなんて

おったまげーしょん

>>143818886
はうあうあうあの画像ちょーうかわいいぃ～
お持ち帰りぃぃ

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this kid is straight savage

>恋に落ちる
>fall in love
Was this term taken from English or is it a coincidence?

>>143819321
>taken from English

What made you consider that?

>>143819321
こいに・お・ち・たー・のー
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTdF3LO1WAI

>>143819387
>EOPs

>>143818334
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU440caSIj4

>>143818767
コンテクストは芸能界の業界用語の話なんですけどその言葉はただの冗談でしたのであまり役に立たないと思います。

>>143818886
あ、なるほど。ありがとう、いもうとちゃん！

>>143819608
我也会讲华语。它虽不是最棒的，但还可接受，我自己算是多一个P。

Anyway,
your point being?

Falling in love is such a simple idea that I highly doubt it could have originated from any one language.

How do I learn and remember verb forms and conjugations effectively?
It's making my brain hurt :s

>>143819893
我愛你

>>143819893
>ESLs

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>>143819893
>Anyway,
>your point being?
How can anyone be this reddit?

>>143813462
毎晩歯を磨きます。でも食後にフロスをします。

Can't really figure out right now how to say "after every meal", or if it's even necessary.

>>143820240
食後ごとに

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>>143820495
ありがとう！

長者ヶ浜潮騒はまなす公園前駅

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>>143817735
Here you go, friend.

>>143817735
>I can't understand any grammar guides because basically I'm fucking retarded
take a class or get a tutor

新幹線はとてもかっこいい。

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what are your leeches?

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>>143820495
そのつかいかたはあまりしないんじゃないかなあ

>毎食後に

をつかうひとがおおいとおもうよ

>>143821647
あの長いやつ？

>>143821652
Why would you grind these words.

By the time you get to a level where you'd actually encounter these with any sort of frequency you should either be able to guess the reading from the kanji readings or remember them naturally from reading after looking them up once.

>>143821749
そう！あの長いやつ

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>>143821652
The only one I still have problems with is 執拗

If you can read a large number of kanji, is it also possible to read some Chinese??

>>143821955
You could get the gist of what's being said but you wouldn't be able to tell what any of the grammar was so your understanding would be limited

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>>143821654
ありがとう、いもうとちゃん

>>143821861
oh my god those are the stupidest leeches i have ever seen just delete all those cards right now because you'll see them more than you've ever repped them in anki when you start reading literally anything f.a.m.

>>143822729
I added all of those like a year ago, they have gigantic intervals now, apart from 執拗, which I for some reason have never been able to remember the reading of

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>>143822237
べっ、べつにおにいちゃんのためなんかじゃないんだからね

>>143822857
きっも

Reading Kanjidamage. Does anyone else find the author annoying ?

>>143821955
often the gist

昔々、赤ちゃんが「いかにも」と言った
そして、両親は捨てさせた
目出度し目出度し

>>143822956
>いもうとさんをいじめている

お前こそ気持ち悪い、うせろ

>>143822854
just delete it you'll remember it through context while reading

>>143823112
Yes. I find him very offensive.

>>143823633
What exactly is the disadvantage of just leaving it in my deck

>>143823735
The mental fear of having to waste your time on a leech one day

Is learning the radicals of 漢字 's a waste of time ?

>>143823112

>>143824354
As it is part of learning Japanese it is too a waste of time.

>>143824354
Radicals are pretty much a necessity and takes like a week to learn so might as well

>>143824741
lol no

>>143823112
Better to be annoying than to make zero sense like the shit heisig comes out with is

>>143824354
You're gonna learn them either way, so you might as well make it easy on yourself and start early.

>>143824741
>Radicals are pretty much a necessity
just as bad as the "radicals are useless" fags

>>143824741
>1871 total unique kanji
Never learned radicals. Just do what works for you

>>143824886
What's your retention rate?

Is anyone else practising handwriting?
Kana is easy but sometimes its difficult to fit a kanji character neatly on a single line of lined paper.
I heard in Japan and China they often use paper with larger spaces between the lines to make writing easier, is that true??

>>143824807
How are they not? They allow you to
-Gain the ability to search for kanji through radical search
-Come up with mnemonics whenever necessary
-Infer what kind of general meaning a kanji will have depending on the main radical used
-Gain the ability to draw nearly every kanji by learning the stroke order of just radicals
-Decipher shitty handwriting
-Differentiate kanji with similar radicals
-Learn and remember phonetic components

>>143821955
>前事不忘 後事之師
I actually found this in asassin's creed, and it felt really good, when i understood it with just my knowledge of japanese

>>143824964
Because they aren't "necessary". They're useful, sure, but you can learn Japanese without studying radicals.

>>143824909
92% on mature. Did 60 new cards per day for some time and now it dropped to 88%

what is this 判子 business, yotsuba did some calisthenics and got marked like it was some nightclub
is this common? sounds way faster and easier than sign here, and here, and here bullshit

>>143825042
I suppose, my bad for using a word with such a strong connotation, I didn't really mean it literally hence the "pretty much"

>>143825043
What about fresh cards?

>>143825066
stamp

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>>143825115
reached my 6000. card today

>>143825066
Yeah, It's like a stamp with your last name on it. You can basically use the stamp or sign. But some papers require the stamp specifically.

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>>143824942
I use this kind brought in a japanese library.
(Obvious beginner here)

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Yes... Yes he is.

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>>143825214
that sounds awesome, and simple

>>143825300
MY EYESS

>円やか
>on a 3 month interval
>find out today it's maROyaka

Fuck me. This is worse than the time I thought 諭す was KI-tosu

>>143825511
Not cool bro,he is trying

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>>143825384

>>143825300
There is something horribly off with your 晩.

>>143825185
How do you display the "Added" graph? i don't have it

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>>143825185
>all those relearns
>german
>3 hours anki per day

>>143825723
Don't worry bro it's the same with latin alphabet, thought I have a feeling it's getting better with japanese (?).

>>143825770
"Oh fuck it".

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Why is this in the dictionary? Is it a commo set expression?

>>143825829
I got 4 intervals for new cards so they usually pop up as new cards on day 2 as a relearn card.
>inb4 so many intervals are stupid
For me it works
>>143825809
Dunno I didnt change anything. Maybe you should check if your Anki is the latest version

>>143825809
It usually isn't there until after you add some cards

>>143826018
>For me it works
>sub 90% mature
Yeah I can tell

>>143826448
>talking about re-learn
>suddenly starts to talk about mature cards interval
Glad to see you don't know what you are talking about.

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>>143825185
>average 168 minutes

アンキが死んでしまえばいい

>>143826116
what do you mean by "added" exactly?

>>143826588
And you know what those new cards with their 4 intervals eventually turn into, anon? A shitty initial learning phase is going to transition into a shitty long term retention.

Then again the fact you don't see that relation yourself might as well mean the fault doesn't lie with the intervals, maybe you're just retarded.

>>143827201
Like if you have a mining deck, you can make a text document with vocab in, and then go file > import and add them to a deck

You can add vocab manually with the add button too but that's slow as fuck and idk if it counts towards that added graph

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>>143824741
>Radicals
>takes like a week to learn

>>143827694
Well like a month, still though there are only like 200 of them and the only piece of information you need to learn for each is a single English keyword which is a piece of piss

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>>143826004

How do you represent sounds which can't be expressed by kana, such as zi, we, yi, or hu???
I mean ジ is read as ji and kana to represent the others have fallen out of use or just never existed.

>>143827974

死ぬ

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>>143827974

>>143828099
you dont

>>143828099
>Wanting to say disgusting non Japanese sounds

Man, I still remember taking a class a long time ago and them using romaji to represent sounds. When you're first learning it seems like such a good idea, but then you get words like 留学生 where they do something like "dyuugaksei" and you realize after you learn the actual sounds of 日本語 how fucking terrible they teach.

>>143828099
>How do you represent sounds which can't be expressed by kana, such as zi, we, yi, or hu
You're sure you're not learning Chinese anon?

>>143828099

"hu" is also represented by ふ, it's just almost always making the "fu" sound.

>>143808303
23 here. I used boku because the hot girl I disappointed at the love hotel with suggested it. She was 33 though so ymmv. The 44 year old I didn't fuck also said it was better to use.

僕は日本会社働きたいくらいなら自殺するだほうがいいです
help tasUKETE

>>143828586
Fuck off with your blogshit retard, nobody cares

>>143828594
ive really seen japanese so japanese, thats some fine japanese you japanesed there

Self fixed it
僕は日本会社働くぐらいなら自殺するほうがいいです

>>143828691
I don't know the answer to his very open for interpretation question. I hope my blog post helped because the truth is half of us are here for that sweet まんこ。So by using my anecdotal advice from some real Japanese people who I had a particular relationship with maybe us fucking shitty piggus can try and figure out this fucked up society.

Also I like to humblebrag.

>>143828772
Shouldn't it be くらい and not ぐらい in this case? I'm honestly not sure.

ワイトピッグゴホム！
ワイトピッグゴホム！

>>143827840
A week is too much for radicals.

>>143828991
>the truth is half of us are here for that sweet まんこ
爆発しろ

>>143829068
Should be ゴーホーム, 外人君

>>143828099
I guess you can make some shit up like ズィ or ユィ, but I don't think there's any standards and even then who knows if japs can actually read that. "we" has an obsolete kana, ゑ/ヱ, but I think the pronunciation is closer to just エ.

>>143829168
嘘じゃないけど…ただ二次元のまんこでしたからｗ

>フグの毒に当たったわけでもあるまいし、こんな状況永遠にないと思ってました。
I think I get the meaning, but what exactly is the first part saying? "Even hitting the poison of a blow fish would've seemed more likely than things ending up like this"?
Under which circumstances would you 当たる a poisonous blow fish though

>>143829074
あ
そうか

>>143829407
Preparation of blow fish has to be done by a trained professional, so you don't accidentally pierce the poison sacs and taint the meat. That's what hitting the poison means.

>>143829407
In this case 当たる means to get unlucky and "land on" the poison, as in end up eating it.

>>143829486
Do you honestly think you're funny or something?

>>143819893
>>143819950
Simplified chinese truly is pig disgusting.

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>>143821652
I keep confusing しかねる with しかめる

>>143829407
C O N T E X T
O
N
T
E
X
T

I'm not entirely sure too, but I think you're off with your translation/understanding.

"There's no reason to have even 当たった a blowfish's poison, I would've never, ever imagined this situation."

>>143830355
What the fuck man, I'm a context autist myself but here it really ain't necessary

>There's no reason to have even 当たった a blowfish's poison
read up on the uses of わけ

>陰核　いんかく
>(n,adj-no) clitoris
>陰核　へのこ
>(n) testicles; penis

Make up your goddamn mind, Japan.

>>143830234
Use the kanji and your problem will be solved

Kana only words are a bitch, always mine words in kanji when they have kanji

>>143830537
Well to be fair they are technically the same thing

>>143830537
Oh boy are we getting another biology lesson by an overly eager anon?

>>143830552
I prefer to only mine words with kanji when I see them in kanji. Because you never know if the standard is to write it in kana which means you'd sort be wasting your time studying it in kanji.
If I run into kana words I just simply don't mine them. There's plenty of other fish in the sea right now. I'll deal with them at a later time when I have more experience and might know if they're typically kana-only words or not.

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Who is /djt/'s prime minister?

>>143830552
>problem will be solved
Problem of failing it in anki? It's not a problem, it's anki working.
Both words are usually written in kana so I have to be able to recognize them in kana.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymXzVxMSsZY

Music is a great way to practice Japanese

>>143830678
>Because you never know if the standard is to write it in kana which means you'd sort be wasting your time studying it in kanji.
That's like saying it'd be meaningless to study the word ENGLISH because it's usually written English.

It's pronounced the same way anyway, dude. If you know what a 喇叭 is, you know what a ラッパ is.

>>143830462
I think there is... 当たり has a broad of meaning (similar though), and look at my context guesses:

- Someone's using that expression as analogy to something triggering a very bad situation willingly even, as in why would someone "hit" a blowfish's poison.
- Someone's fishing or something similar and somehow, unexpectedly, accidentally hit a blowfish's poison and that was a terrible situation (like you're in the same water as it), as in "it was a very bad luck for this to have happened"
- A chef and is hitting the poison sack of a blowfish (purposely), someone's seeing this and thinking how things got to that point.

> ead up on the uses of わけ
I don't understand, was there something wrong with the sentence I typed?

My breakdown:
(blowfish poison) (to hit, to get lucky-past) (reasoning for) (no)

>>143830678
But if you mine it in kanji you learn the kanji and the kana at the same time, as opposed to just limiting yourself to kana

You're bound to see words that are "mostly in kana" written in kanji at some point, so you might as well learn the kanji now

>>143830682
We actually have a Lord Protector in power right now.

Is this the correct usage of は・・・が ?

>Youtubeはコミュニティ ガイドラインが裸に過敏です。
>As for Youtube, its Community Guidelines are really sensitive to nudity.

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How long does it really take to memorize the Hiragana chart on average? I'm trying to write it from memory (what I know), but I still find myself forgetting characters I thought I already knew really well.

>>143831427

I did Tofugu's learn hiragana steps and learned it in like.. 3 or 4 hours of work. After that, you just see it often enough to usually know what something is.

>>143831427
I literally read VNs and, while I never forget when reading them, I can only reproduce less than half when writing.

If you don't use it, you lose it.

>>143830682
idk but I know who the Consul is

Is there any place where i can find literature by jules verne in japanese? i might also buy it, if its not like 1000Y for one book

>>143831525
Same here, I probably couldn't tell you how to write 私 if you randomly asked me to

>>143831687
1000 yen for a book is cheap, but look on amazon jp, there are some works there. You're going to want to search for ジュール・ヴェルヌ

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>>143831391
Can I just get a yay or nay here?

I am pretty sure I could also use の in this situation, but は・・・が "feels" like it fits perfectly for describing this aspect of Youtube.

Yes, I have looked at DoJG.

>>143832090
Yes. You can even have multiple は in the sentence and it would/should make the same sense.

I'd say が is more like the "actor" in the sentence (something that actively is or is actively doing something), it seems to denote stronger meaning to the action.

I also think there's slight nuances of meaning when using different particles.

If it's は:
"[About] Youtube's community guideline..." ("normal" context setting, as if you were talking about another subject and changed that to Youtube)
If you wrote that with の, it would be like:
"Youtube has a community guideline that..."
If it's が:
"Youtube's community guideline IS..." (meaning it might've not been before, or is actively doing it now)

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>>143831427
As long as it takes you.

>>143832527
Wow, that really clears it up. Thanks.

>>143831869


but for amazon its kind of hard to buy ebooks outside of japan, isnt it?

>>143832545
Is it just me or does that kana chart look like it doesn't have nearly enough kana on

I mean I know that that's all of them but it doesn't look like it, guess it's been too long

>>143832615

It doesn't show rendaku, but it has all 46 of them.

>>143832591
Ah yeah, I thought you were referring to physical books. I don't think ebooks are usually available for foreigners, I've only ever bought physical books from them.

起きる

Fuck this kanji in particular. Holy shit. This motherfucker kills the stats. Should I just list it when I go through and see 起きる like "To happen, to occur, to get up..." when it pops up on 2k6k, because I mark myself wrong each time since I can't really know which it is....

>>143832591
You can buy them using a Japanese vpn.

>>143832710
>I mark myself wrong if I GUESS incorrectly
Are you retarded?

Please excuse me if this is a stupid question, but I've been googling and cannot find this kanji. I have been scouring various online dictionaries to find certain kanji, but do not know how to find this particular one.

Could you help me, and also teach me how to find it on my own later? I've also tried using Jisho and drawing/radical search, but this one doesn't show up.

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>>143832788
Kanji in question

>>143832820
What the fuck is this?
How about you show us the whole sentence you saw this shit because your mspaint impression is 100% wrong.

>>143832861
>>143832820


Also, scale it up fuckstick.

>>143832890
I'll fuck your stick

>>143832820
Did you try to use the mouse with your butt?

>>143832788
Post the original image if you're able to.

>>143831427
you can learn both kana perfectly within a weak. You can memorize and start reading them today if you put some effort into it.

Grammar takes ~1 month to perfect. Kanji/Vocabulary is where the meat is. This can take up to 2 months for the 2000 most used words and to learn the most common kanji.

All in all it takes around ~3 months to read visual novels like you'd read them in your native language.

Of course I assume those 3 months are pure dedicated to Japanese with no free time/school/work to impede your progress.

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>>143832788
>>143832861

>>143832934

せんっぱい。。。

>>143833078
That's 風, you moron.

>>143832820
What >>143832861 said.

Nevertheless, I'll teach you how to look up unknown stuff:

[Lazy Way]
Get an OCR (KanjiTomo for example), mouseover it and voila. If it doesn't work nicely, change scaling, try again, if it doesn't work at all, move to the next step.

[Normal Way]
Do you have an Android phone? If yes, get Google Input and set it to japanese, and use it on your dictionary of choice (I recommend Akebi).
If you don't, use Google Translate, click on the Pencil Icon and draw it there.
Google's drawing recognition thing is way too good, it'll get most scribbles correct and doesn't care about stroke count.

[Hardworking Way]
Learn how to stroke, learn SKIP codes, then search through a bunch of kanjis by typing it's codes/stroke count.
SKIP is basically a way to limit your search of N strokes kanjis with a certain standard.

>>143833078
風邪

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>>143833075
>Grammar takes ~1 month to perfect.
ちょっと待って。。

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>>143833078
>>143832820

>>143833078
Pffffftahahah

It's 風 from 風邪

To answer your "teach me how to find" question, if you know at least one of the kanji in a word, like it this example 邪, then you can go on jisho and type in ?邪, and it'll show you all the words that have 邪 as a second kanji, of which 風邪 is the first one

>>143833158
>>143833123
>>143833118
ありがとう

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put a fucking trigger warning, holy shit. fuck bugs

>>143833078
Thanks for the giggle.

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>>143833123
>KanjiTomo for example
>Java is required to run the program.

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>>143833277
虫は貴方の友達ですよ。

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>>143833383
>not already having a jdk on your machine

>>143833078
Toppu kekku fampai.

>>143833410
蚊は友達だはない。

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>>143833410

>>143833410
可愛いすぎ

>>143833383
What's a good alternative then?
desu I'm not very fond of it but I couldn't find a better one (tested 2~3 others a long time ago).

>>143833593
What the fuck is this "desu"?
I'm pretty sure I wrote "To be honest"

>>143833277
p sure that's just a mosquito

>>143833656
Whatever you say weeb

>>143833656
Hello newfriend.

But KanjiTomo is fine, he's just memeing about java.

>>143833656
t b h, f a m, and another word i don't remember get transfromed into anime words.

>>143833593
(writing t_b_h)
desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu

>>143833714
I'm not taking it too seriously but I just don't like Java in general (I used to work in development and hated it). Superior .NET race here.

>>143833757
c,u,c,k

>>143833757
Why would they do this?

desu
senpai
cuck

Speaking of OCRs, does anyone knows one that works good for Android?
I was using one (OCR Manga Reader) but it was painfully slow (you had to draw a rectangle in the area you wanted to scan, and it was annoying as hell getting it positioned correctly) so I'm looking for something like KanjiTomo to read my LNs during commute...

西川あかり